View Full Version : Tom Welling as Superman
Docker2.0
12-07-2007, 02:25 PM
Sorry it one of the worst performances I've ever seen for a lead actor in a bigbudget film.
And it was all over the internet that they were in talks with Welling from the beginning.
For JLA? I know. There's no doubting that. :huh: I was saying the reason Routh wasn't cast becuase Bale wasn't goign to be in it. I know you may not like Routh and I'm not to fond of him either but it makes no sense for him to be left out.
Superman_
12-07-2007, 02:40 PM
Thats correct had Bale done this movie then you would have seen Routh as Superman. It was either both or neither and since Bale said no to the movie then they couldn't use Routh as well. The reason why they were going to use Bale and Routh because they thought it would help with the sequel to Returns. It was never Bale/Welling. It was always Bale/Routh.
For JLA? I know. There's no doubting that. :huh: I was saying the reason Routh wasn't cast becuase Bale wasn't goign to be in it. I know you may not like Routh and I'm not to fond of him either but it makes no sense for him to be left out.
My point went right over your head WELLING was the first choice as Superman period. Routh was never considered for this role.
Prison Mike
12-07-2007, 05:06 PM
yeah he wasn't considered because Bale turned down the film. If Bale said yes, Routh would have been offered the role.
Docker2.0
12-07-2007, 05:11 PM
yeah he wasn't considered because Bale turned down the film. If Bale said yes, Routh would have been offered the role.
Thank you! I don't know how to say it any easier for the guy! :huh:
Thank you! I don't know how to say it any easier for the guy! :huh:
It has been said many times that Routh WAS NEVER CONSIDERED. The first choice for Batman/Superman was Bale/Welling.
Prison Mike
12-07-2007, 07:11 PM
It has been said many times that Routh WAS NEVER CONSIDERED. The first choice for Batman/Superman was Bale/Welling.
I think one of the heads at DC said it was originally intended for Bale/Routh. Welling came up after Bale said no. They didn't want to confuse the viewers by having Bale and a second Superman (it's not that confusing to me but whatever).
The Incredible Hulk
12-07-2007, 10:00 PM
Routh was never in the picture for JLA. The guys behind JLA like Dan Lin & Co are anti-SR and the ones who convinced Alan Horn to go the JLA route instead of SR2. They werent going to then turn around and use the face of SR in their JLA movie. That would've made zero sense. Bale was never considered either because the plan was always to use him for 3 solo Bat films per his contract. He admitted himself that he was never even approached for it.
Anything you've read to the contrary is just sour grapes from fans of Routh who are pissed off he was never considered and his less than memorable turn in the tights was short-lived so they've tried to create excuses for it.
TheLongestDay
12-07-2007, 10:16 PM
all round i think its a major blunder-Routh may have been good with better direction/plot/fx etc and welling wouldve been great in JL but that presents problems with continuity of the show and supporting cast etc.
Im now in the mindset that maybe its best to go with a different cast of unknowns,thats way more money gets spent of fx and making JL the popcorn spectacle its destined to be,this way we can have our serious Batman films,the kids can have a JL Batman,and somewhere down the line we might get a superman reboot ala Hulk...(hopefully starring welling)
Mr. Socko
12-07-2007, 10:48 PM
I agree with that stance LD.
Superman101
12-08-2007, 03:31 AM
Tom Welling's Clark Kent wardrobe is on the way with the Superman look. The red jacket (red cape), blue t-shirt (Superman's top without the 'S'). Also, he almost always wears this combination of colors whenever he's saving someone from disaster or whatever or being Superman(ish). When he's not saving people and stuff he's wearing like a red t-shirt and blue jean jacket or something.
Syncos
12-08-2007, 11:25 AM
Routh was never in the picture for JLA. The guys behind JLA like Dan Lin & Co are anti-SR and the ones who convinced Alan Horn to go the JLA route instead of SR2. They werent going to then turn around and use the face of SR in their JLA movie. That would've made zero sense. Bale was never considered either because the plan was always to use him for 3 solo Bat films per his contract. He admitted himself that he was never even approached for it.
Correct, sir. I believe it all stemmed from an interview where Bale was asked if he wanted to do the JLA film where he responded with hells to the no, or something.
That's all paraphrased.
Prison Mike
12-08-2007, 11:45 AM
yeah I can't picture Bale saying "hells to the no". lol
Docker2.0
12-08-2007, 01:10 PM
I agree with that stance LD.
You are only suppose to ALWAYS agree with me! Freakin traiter! :cmad:
Paradoxium
12-09-2007, 01:57 PM
I think Hulk is right, Bale was never approached at all. The whole John Conner casting has me stone walled. Having McG is even more nuts. If it were James Cameron I could see Bale wanting to work with him. Maybe WB rather he help startup a different franchise than risk the Batman franchise for JLA (by insulating him to the Nolanverse). To put it bluntly, as much as Bale likes his artsy fartsy film, guy is human, he still needs money, especially since he has a family.
If they ever were to spinoff the Batman brand into some team/ensemble movie, Outsiders would work so much better than JLA. With a proper tone and tweaks it could be like a blackops/wetworks type of film. Films like that are not ridiculously expensive either, and there is a profitable market for it.
I am not the biggest SR fan, but I am not going to rag Routh on his performance. Singer had a heavier hand and should be more accountable. The "vision" and "budget" were his responsibilities. If Christopher Reeve was in his prime, he would not have saved SR.
Antonello Blueberry
12-09-2007, 02:37 PM
I think Hulk is right, Bale was never approached at all. The whole John Conner casting has me stone walled. Having McG is even more nuts. If it were James Cameron I could see Bale wanting to work with him. Maybe WB rather he help startup a different franchise than risk the Batman franchise for JLA (by insulating him to the Nolanverse). To put it bluntly, as much as Bale likes his artsy fartsy film, guy is human, he still needs money, especially since he has a family.
Yeah really. How can you afford a family these days if you don't earn at least 10 million $ a year?
Paradoxium
12-09-2007, 03:56 PM
He gets under 4 million per Batman film. And this is before his agent gets a cut of his salary. Probably has a paycut for those indy films. Also besides monetary reasons, you aren't going to get much leverage in negotiations if you don't have bankability outside of Batman. So by no means am I saying he is poor, but what good is a million or two if you don't have much consistent money coming in in the long run? Unless he has a ton of assets and knows how to invest...
musclesforsupes
12-10-2007, 02:22 PM
anything next about W and JLA?
triplet
12-10-2007, 03:35 PM
anything next about W and JLA?
You think they'd be talking about Bale and whathisame if there had been?
:rolleyes:
triplet
12-10-2007, 07:58 PM
Interesting tidbit...
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22892836-2902,00.html
Palmer gives nothing away
December 09, 2007 12:00am
RISING star Teresa Palmer is tight-lipped on rumours she has a major role in George Miller's Justice League of America.
Palmer, the face of jeweller Jan Logan's 2008 Collection, arrived in Australia on Thursday after eight months in Los Angeles.
She plans to spend Christmas in Adelaide with her family before moving to Sydney to start her next film.
Rumours abound that Palmer has been cast as Talia Al Ghul in the superhero film. While she would not reveal details of her new project, Palmer did confirm she had auditioned for JLA.
"The actresses who tested for the film did not test for any specific role," Palmer said. "There are three female roles, I believe, in that movie and all the girls tested for any one of those female roles."
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5791206,00.jpg
Bruce_Wayne29
12-10-2007, 08:35 PM
It's Wonder Woman, Talia and what is the third female role ?
triplet
12-10-2007, 09:16 PM
I don't know....
Sasha, the black king's (Max Lord's) knight? (That is her name, right?)
:confused:
AgentPat
12-10-2007, 09:17 PM
It's Wonder Woman, Talia and what is the third female role ?Iris Allen.
triplet
12-10-2007, 09:56 PM
Iris Allen.
Oh, right...
That's probably it.
\S/JcDc\S/
12-11-2007, 12:56 AM
It has been said many times that Routh WAS NEVER CONSIDERED. The first choice for Batman/Superman was Bale/Welling.
There was never any proof Welling was a first choice. I'm sure he was considered though. They weighed different options. As for Routh, there is no way they could avoid "considering" him as he did play Superman on the big screen. Maybe they ultimately chose to go with a younger JL and start a seperate franchise but it's asinine to assume they don't look at Routh.
triplet
12-11-2007, 09:19 AM
There was never any proof Welling was a first choice. I'm sure he was considered though. They weighed different options. As for Routh, there is no way they could avoid "considering" him as he did play Superman on the big screen. Maybe they ultimately chose to go with a younger JL and start a seperate franchise but it's asinine to assume they don't look at Routh.
Well since they couldn't use one of Bale's films from his three film deal for the Batman franchise, it wouldn't make sense to use Routh.
Also, the guys behind JLA (that pushed it out in front of MOS) hated SR and the last thing they wanted was to bring Singer's Superman into a new franchise.
Ultimately, that's not fair to Brandon. The problems with SR weren't Routh's fault, but it's failures will cost Brandon more than it will cost Singer.
That's too bad, he seems like a nice enough guy.
AgentPat
12-11-2007, 11:53 AM
There's so many different versions of this "story," I don't think we'll ever get the full poop.
Bale is signed for three Batman films, one of which is a team-up. Miller *could* have used him in JL if he wanted to. Bale is contracted to do it, and unless he wants to be in breach of his contract, he's bound to it. I believe Routh is opted for three films as well, though I don't know if there's any provision for one of those films being an ensemble.
But the key point here is that it's really up to Miller. No matter what the studio wants, it ultimately comes down to who the director wants, and then the studio gives their blessing. Warners could have the second coming of Chris Reeve signed and ready to go, but if that actor doesn't match Miller's "vision," the studio can't force the director to use him. The only situation where they could is if Miller agreed to it in his contract when he signed on board to direct. "Okay, you've got the gig, but you have to offer first rights of refusal to X, Y, and Z."
^ Which of course is all too familiar. LOL
What makes everything so confusing though is Warners' own official stance on the topic. If we're to believe Greg I'm-so-confused Noveck, then each "new" iteration of these characters is to be played by a different actor, so Bale, Routh and yes, even Welling wouldn't have been an option. Ever. There would have been NO discussion about using any of those actors at ALL.
And if you believe that, I have a bridge over some swampland in Florida to sell.
Hah! It IS ludicrous to think these actors wouldn't have at least been considered. And by "considered," I mean discussed. Bale and Routh said they weren't approached. And while nobody has asked Welling, Gough said they weren't approached and Welling's reps said no comment. But I'm sure there's been copious discussion at Warners about the pros and cons of using any of the above actors. Welling has been playing Clark Kent for seven years. Anybody who thinks Warners hasn't put quite a bit of discussion into casting him as Superman in a film needs to be slapped upside the head! :p :D
Serene
12-11-2007, 12:10 PM
Ultimately, that's not fair to Brandon. The problems with SR weren't Routh's fault, but it's failures will cost Brandon more than it will cost Singer.
That's too bad, he seems like a nice enough guy.
I agree. Although, while I don't think I'd "blame" Brandon, the guy was just taking advantage of a HUGE career break and doing his job, and I do think he worked his butt off making that movie, but I really had a hard time with his casting throughout the entire movie - for a number of reasons (that I'll refrain from going into.) Bottom-line, he didn't sell me Superman, and the storyline didn't help his cause at all.
He does seem like a decent guy though, and hopefully he'll take advantage of the big publicity boost to launch his career in other ventures.
Personally, I think Singer was too self-indulgent, but that was his rightful choice. He made the film he wanted, and I guess you have to respect any 'creator' that is true to his own vision. His vision just wasn't the best thing for this franchise, at this time, IMO. I would have preferred a more wide-appealing Superman movie that would have appealed to all-ages and reawakened a love and appreciation for this character in the younger generation. Spiderman rulz the day for all the young kids that I know of.
I don't think it's too late though. SR did bring the name of Superman back into familiarity, if not the love. The next step is critical though, and that's why I think the JL movie, if it is indeed the Big Time Tentpole that they are hinting at, it will be pivotal in its importance to Superman's popularity to the public.
I guess I'm saying that even if the JL casting of certain characters is tragically WRONG, it's not necessarily as damaging to their franchises as I think it will be to Superman. Batman's franchise will survive regardless because of the Nolan films. WW is a bit trickier, but she still hasn't had her big solo movie (which I really hope they don't give up on). Superman though... it may be a while before there will be enough interest in presenting him a THIRD time to modern movie-going audiences. A long while.
RakuMon
12-11-2007, 12:34 PM
UGH.
Granted, this rumor comes from AICN, so it could be complete b.s.:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35023
JUSTICE LEAGUE Retitled?? It May Now be Called...
Merrick here...
A reader named Pat sent in this message. I've sent Pat a follow-up e-mail in an effort to find out more about Bale's appearance. There's a station called Nova in Australia. Given that Miller will be shooting his JL project there, my guess is THIS (http://www.nova100.com.au/site/home.aspx) is where the news came from. We'll update appropriately as further details are gleaned.
Here's Pat's message:
Last week at the AFI's George Miller mentioned that JUSTICE LEAGUE will have a new title soon.
We may have it already.
Christian Bale was on Nova (FM) today in an interview (pre-recorded I assume) for "Yuma" and said he has "nothing to do with AMERICAN HEROES, and their Batman will be different to our Batman".
There you have it!
AMERICAN HEROES. Sounds like a branding on Cartoon Network...or some sort of reality show?
More on this is more comes in!
Cmill216
12-11-2007, 12:35 PM
That's gotta be BS.
Serene
12-11-2007, 12:44 PM
:pal: No way! Can you imagine the international outcry? LOL!
The wouldn't even use "...the American Way" as a phrase.
Perhaps Bale was just referring to the movie that way trying to be..funny?
triplet
12-11-2007, 01:07 PM
Well, that's interesting.
:rolleyes:
If true, that's reason # 1059 of why I may not see this film.
AgentPat
12-11-2007, 01:09 PM
Hah! Well, I like the scooper's name. :p
No, it wasn't me. ;)
I'm gonna go with Serene. If Bale really did say that, he was probably being snarky. The "American" part isn't what even sticks out to me. It's the "Heroes" part. You think they'd put that word in a film about superheroes? Kring would have a cow. Just sayin'.
Prison Mike
12-11-2007, 01:32 PM
I was wondering if that was AgentPat who gave the scoop? lol
Mikelus
12-11-2007, 03:44 PM
And to thought GI Joe was the "real American hero".... :oldrazz:
Jokes aside, the rumors about JLA are so ridiculous, Miller has to do the "performance of his career" to save this movie from total disaster.
AgentPat
12-12-2007, 10:16 AM
Huh! I had no idea Dan Lin was so young...
http://a330.g.akamai.net/7/330/23382/20071212031814/www.variety.com/graphics/photos/_mugl/lin_dan.jpg
Variety
12/11/07
Dan Lin exits post at WB
Senior VP of production launches own film unit
By DIANE GARRETT
Dan Lin will exit his post as senior VP of production for Warner Bros. to hang his own shingle on the lot.
He will segue to Lin Pictures on Jan. 1, the same date that his boss, Jeff Robinov, segues into the post of prexy of Warner Bros. Pictures Group.
Lin plans to develop alternate ways to make projects under his long-term pact, the first three years of which are exclusive. Exec, who worked on pics such as "The Departed" and "The Aviator" for Warners, is expected to continue shepherding projects such as George Miller's "Justice League" for the studio.
Robinov said he would be happy with "one good-size movie a year out of Danny" under the pact, stressing Lin's wide-ranging taste and ability to work with high-caliber directors such as Martin Scorsese and Miller.
What's more, after nine years at Warners, "he has a real short cut with the studio," Robinov said. "He understands how it works."
Lin said he approached Robinov and prexy-chief operating officer Alan Horn this summer about setting up the company. He said the shingle will allow him to flex his entrepreneurial muscles and "act more nimbly than I would as a studio exec."
Lin cited the studio's recent deal with Media Rights Capital as an alternate way to develop projects and the 30 minutes of 3-D footage for "10,000 BC" as incorporating advances in delivery mechanisms. He said his experience developing a lot of "comicbooky movies" for the studio has proven instructive in ways to use technology in filmmaking.
Exec joined Warners as an intern during grad school. He was elevated to VP of production in 2002 and promoted to his current post last year.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977519
Tomwelling4sups
12-12-2007, 01:26 PM
Thought I'd share something from (what will soon be in my personal collection). Painting by Alex Lei.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1418/alexleitomwellingartth2.jpg
Superman_
12-12-2007, 02:00 PM
Very nice.
Serene
12-12-2007, 06:53 PM
:pal: Oooh, nice stuff, TW4S. I really love the coloring especially.
TheLongestDay
12-12-2007, 07:49 PM
Thought I'd share something from (what will soon be in my personal collection). Painting by Alex Lei.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1418/alexleitomwellingartth2.jpg
cool...very "otherworldly" ...(did i just make up a word?)
Gary Glitter
12-12-2007, 08:51 PM
cool...very "otherworldly" ...(did i just make up a word?)
Ah yes u have TLD..and it really captures that imagitive mind that is attracted to the wonderful picture:word:
Zorex
12-12-2007, 10:10 PM
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/otherworldly
Today's a killjoy kind of a day for me. :)
Nice painting, especially strength of highlights, but the hair doesn't really fit the overall image IMO.
AgentPat
12-12-2007, 10:29 PM
Today's a killjoy kind of a day for me. :)What happened?
Nice painting, especially strength of highlights, but the hair doesn't really fit the overall image IMO.Agreed. I like the painting, but the hair... omg... the hair. Scary hair... :wow:
Prison Mike
12-13-2007, 12:01 AM
and one eye looks more tired than the other. lol
AgentPat
12-13-2007, 01:34 AM
HAH! I don't know whether this is hysterical or pathetic, so maybe I'll just go with hysterically pathetic.
Maxwell Lord casting rumor for JL:
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/jay-baruchel-vs-the-justice-league.php
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smirk.gif
Serene
12-13-2007, 01:41 AM
HAH! I don't know whether this is hysterical or pathetic, so maybe I'll just go with hysterically pathetic.
Maxwell Lord casting rumor for JL:
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/jay-baruchel-vs-the-justice-league.php
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smirk.gif
Oh man. I do like that guy, but he looks about 16!
AgentPat
12-13-2007, 01:46 AM
Oh man. I do like that guy, but he looks about 16!Exactly. It's still a rumor of course, but if THAT's who they got to play the lead villain, I'm gonna crack a rib. What a joke this film is turning out to be.
triplet
12-13-2007, 10:54 AM
*shakes head sadly*
RakuMon
12-13-2007, 11:50 AM
HAH! I don't know whether this is hysterical or pathetic, so maybe I'll just go with hysterically pathetic.
Maxwell Lord casting rumor for JL:
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/jay-baruchel-vs-the-justice-league.php
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smirk.gif
I wonder if he'll leave his shaved pubes all over Brother Eye? :wow:
AgentPat
12-13-2007, 11:53 AM
I wonder if he'll leave his shaved pubes all over Brother Eye? :wow:Ooooo... that was bad. LOL :D
What's your opinion on all this, Raku? They must talk about it around the water cooler at work, no?
Prison Mike
12-13-2007, 12:03 PM
He'll probably fart on a pillow (bare ass) and give them pink eye! lol
Migu-EL
12-13-2007, 01:05 PM
He'll probably fart on a pillow (bare ass) and give them pink eye! lol
LMFAO:grin: :pal: :lmao:
That movie was hilarious.
Prison Mike
12-13-2007, 02:15 PM
just remember. you gotta be bare ass for it to work! lol
RakuMon
12-13-2007, 02:22 PM
Ooooo... that was bad. LOL :D
What's your opinion on all this, Raku? They must talk about it around the water cooler at work, no?
Everybody thinks Justice League is a cluster**** waiting to happen.
musclesforsupes
12-13-2007, 02:41 PM
I think we need a mitchell report on tom welling and the JLA movie :(
heliorei
12-13-2007, 03:06 PM
As much as I want to see TW as Superman (meaning full costume), this movie screams disaster...
After the flops of Catwoman, Batman and Robin, The WB should've known better...
This is Justice "Diapers" League.
RakuMon
12-13-2007, 03:09 PM
He'll probably fart on a pillow (bare ass) and give them pink eye! lol
Oh no! Brother (Pink) Eye!!!!
AgentPat
12-13-2007, 03:31 PM
Everybody thinks Justice League is a cluster**** waiting to happen.LOL! It is starting to head in that direction, init? http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ohwell.gif
Docker2.0
12-13-2007, 03:39 PM
You know what I will think will happen? Fans are going to hate the casting and direction of the movie so much that it will fail to live up to its potential like SR. But with Miller directing it, it might turn out good. But with all the casting rumors and bashing everywhere, it doesn't bode well. I just don't understand these directors and producers who say the heck for the fans, I'm going to have my vision and run with it but in the end, people will still go and see it. I still can't understand Singer's vision for Superman. :huh:
Superman_
12-13-2007, 04:24 PM
Singer's Superman wasn't that bad if you look at what Donner did for his first two movies and where he was going. So if your going off of Donner's Superman (which Singer did) Superman Returns is a good movie but if you go into it thinking Smallville or S:TAS or Lois and Clark then yea it may not be your type of movie because it is different from your Superman. This is how I view Justice League now, if I go into the movie thinking Superman Returns or Batman Begins, JLU or any previous live version of these heroes then yea I am going to be disappointed but if you go into it with an open mind then I might like it no matter the cast.
Docker2.0
12-13-2007, 07:17 PM
I know what you are saying but you are so wrong. You are suppose to have some resemblance to a character. If I go into a theater to see a Catwoman who has no superpowers and is a thief but instead see a movie about a slutty hero with superpowers, not even close to the Catwoman in the comics, then I SHOULD be upset. But thank goodness WB isn't that crazy to make a movie like that. :o
Zorex
12-13-2007, 10:32 PM
Ugh, please, just stop before you get started. Or take it elsewhere. I'm sure there's someplace else that you can boohoo about "that which shall not be named."
Docker2.0
12-13-2007, 10:38 PM
First off, free country, I can post in this thread becuase I haven't bashed anyone. Second, I was saying talking about the JLA movie which everyone else was talking about. If you don't like what I post, please don't respond. :o
GreenLantern75
12-18-2007, 12:49 PM
anyone wondering why there's been no JLA casting announcement yet even though there was an alleged "deadline" beforehand?
Lets just say that one deadline was put off in order to see if another "deadline" would pass which would shake free a certain TV star from his commitments for the next 6 or 7 mos. If a resolution comes to pass before the deadline, they'll move ahead with their "Plan B" guy instead whcih looked like it would be happening before the strike set in for the long haul. Superman is holding the world up, so to speak....
The kicker is, if such events did take place. The 7th season will be it for the TV show. However there will be a "full" season spread out over 2007 and 2008. 15 in the can soon, and then the other 7 the following fall.
avidreader
12-18-2007, 01:16 PM
anyone wondering why there's been no JLA casting announcement yet even though there was an alleged "deadline" beforehand?
Lets just say that one deadline was put off in order to see if another "deadline" would pass which would shake free a certain TV star from his commitments for the next 6 or 7 mos. If a resolution comes to pass before the deadline, they'll move ahead with their "Plan B" guy instead whcih looked like it would be happening before the strike set in for the long haul. Superman is holding the world up, so to speak....
Huh!! :huh: I get you right up to......
..... this point.
The kicker is, if such events did take place. The 7th season will be it for the TV show. However there will be a "full" season spread out over 2007 and 2008. 15 in the can soon, and then the other 7 the following fall.
Then you've completely lost me. :huh: Tom still has a contract to do an 8th Season of Smallville.
Ultimate_Superman
12-18-2007, 01:18 PM
Here is a question well SV pull a Heroes and use the scripts they didn't shoot this season for next season if the strike doesn't end on time. I mean Heroes has already half of its third season filmed because of that.
avidreader
12-18-2007, 01:27 PM
Here is a question well SV pull a Heroes and use the scripts they didn't shoot this season for next season if the strike doesn't end on time. I mean Heroes has already half of its third season filmed because of that.
I think they have two scripts left to film, and when the show returns in the New Year (late January or early February) its going to run right through until the end of the episodes that have been completed, thus completing Season 7.
There are six episodes left in total.
And that is assuming that the writers dont return to work very soon and we get a full 22 episode season, but that's looking very unlikely.
triplet
12-18-2007, 01:32 PM
Here is a question well SV pull a Heroes and use the scripts they didn't shoot this season for next season if the strike doesn't end on time. I mean Heroes has already half of its third season filmed because of that.
What are you talking about?
From what I understood, Heroes only filmed the episdoes they've aired. They were done with production two weeks after the strike hit precisely because they didn't have scripts stock-piled to allow them to continue...
:confused:
And depending on the cliff-hanger SV came up with, any scripts they've already broken may or may not fit for an 8th season. If they have one like Action, which was originally supposed to be aired last year, then that's one thing but they may have to seriously retool other episodes if they don't fit in after whatever the cliffy is at the end of Veritas.
And avid, I agree: I don't think the writers will be back in time for SV to salvage the rest of the season.
spark627
12-18-2007, 01:34 PM
I think they have two scripts left to film, and when the show returns in the New Year (late January or early February) its going to run right through until the end of the episodes that have been completed, thus completing Season 7.
There are six episodes left in total.
And that is assuming that the writers dont return to work very soon and we get a full 22 episode season, but that's looking very unlikely.
If you're right and we are getting a short season there better be a season 8!
Migu-EL
12-18-2007, 01:37 PM
This thread has been dead for a while...:ninja: glad to see it revived.:applaud
I'm hoping that the strike gets resolved soon so that we can get our FULL season 7 of Smallville, if we don't i'll be:angry:.
Ultimate_Superman
12-18-2007, 01:42 PM
What are you talking about?
From what I understood, Heroes only filmed the episdoes they've aired. They were done with production two weeks after the strike hit precisely because they didn't have scripts stock-piled to allow them to continue...
:confused:
And depending on the cliff-hanger SV came up with, any scripts they've already broken may or may not fit for an 8th season. If they have one like Action, which was originally supposed to be aired last year, then that's one thing but they may have to seriously retool other episodes if they don't fit in after whatever the cliffy is at the end of Veritas.
And avid, I agree: I don't think the writers will be back in time for SV to salvage the rest of the season.No Heroes filmed all the scripts they had written they just stopped with the half way point in order to have a good season finale. The second half of the season will now be the first half of the third season. They did have a stock pill all the way to the 16th show I think because we were getting spoilers on what was suppose to happen up till then.
Migu-EL
12-18-2007, 01:44 PM
No Heroes filmed all the scripts they had written they just stopped with the half way point in order to have a good season finale. The second half of the season will now be the first half of the third season. They did have a stock pill all the way to the 16th show I think because we were getting spoilers on what was suppose to happen up till then.
Is Tom Welling going to play Superman that season.:cwink: :grin:
GreenLantern75
12-18-2007, 03:00 PM
Then you've completely lost me. :huh: Tom still has a contract to do an 8th Season of Smallville.
sorry if I was being obtuse, I have to choose my words carefully. What I meant was you'll get a "full 7th season" of 22 episodes it's just going to be broken up into the 15 this year, and then next fall, assuming there are no further strikes going on, they'll do a 7 episode "season" to tie up the show. It will technically be a "8th season" in TV time but in production time it will still be the end of the "7th season," so they'll be able to use Michael until the end since he's signed for a 22 episode 7th season. Is that a bit clearer?
Tom's contract for an 8th season is irrelevant since technically there wont be an 8th season, just a 7th season thats spread over a year. If the strike hits the point of no return, WB/CW is moving on after the 22 episode order is filled.
AgentPat
12-18-2007, 03:17 PM
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/what.jpg
Okay, you have my attention. :D :up:
Carry on! :)
Migu-EL
12-18-2007, 03:22 PM
Sooo....are they still going to make this movie (Justice League), and if they do is there any "credible" rumors on who will play Supes?
AgentPat
12-18-2007, 03:33 PM
Sooo....are they still going to make this movie (Justice League), and if they do is there any "credible" rumors on who will play Supes?I'd love to know who Plan B Guy is, not to mention what Greg I'm-so-confused Noveck is planning to say if Plan A Guy ends up in the roll after all. Hah!
Ah well. February aint that far away. The film is either happening or it's not. Either way, we're gonna find out everything we want to know about the "important" stuff, very VERY soon. :p
Patience. I think I can muster up enough to hold me off till then. :D
Migu-EL
12-18-2007, 03:37 PM
I'd love to know who Plan B Guy is, not to mention what Greg I'm-so-confused Noveck is planning to say if Plan A Guy ends up in the roll after all. Hah!
Ah well. February aint that far away. The film is either happening or it's not. Either way, we're gonna find out everything we want to know about the "important" stuff, very VERY soon. :p
Patience. I think I can muster up enough to hold me off till then. :D
No kidding, since according to certain sources we were suppose to find out the cast back in early November.:oldrazz:
AgentPat
12-18-2007, 03:52 PM
No kidding, since according to certain sources we were suppose to find out the cast back in early November.:oldrazz:November? Sanchez said they'd announce it "in a few weeks" after he went on TV in AUGUST. LOLOL!!!
No matter who they were going to cast, everybody back then thought November was crazy talk. And here we are, with January '08 two weeks away... ROFL!!!
Eh. I'm keeping all digits crossed. It doesn't cost me nuthin'. But I still totally believe everything is riding on the cast, assuming the film even happens at this point. Time will tell. Can't hurt to keep yer eyes on the prize though, right? :word:
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Migu-EL
12-18-2007, 04:06 PM
November? Sanchez said they'd announce it "in a few weeks" after he went on TV in AUGUST. LOLOL!!!
No matter who they were going to cast, everybody back then thought November was crazy talk. And here we are, with January '08 two weeks away... ROFL!!!
Eh. I'm keeping all digits crossed. It doesn't cost me nuthin'. But I still totally believe everything is riding on the cast, assuming the film even happens at this point. Time will tell. Can't hurt to keep yer eyes on the prize though, right? :word:
http://www.patcostello.com/temp/gemini2.jpg
That's right, I thought they were going to confirm Welling being in the film back in August and then let everyone else know the rest of the cast on a later date. But I now clearly remember that they were going to announce the entire cast on the same date.
If they can get the Superman casting right then the rest will all fall into place.:cwink:
RakuMon
12-18-2007, 04:11 PM
In light of all the positive buzz and hype after the release of the Dark Knight prologue/trailer, WB should probably reconsider the box of baking soda for Batman while they're at it.
avidreader
12-18-2007, 04:19 PM
sorry if I was being obtuse, I have to choose my words carefully. What I meant was you'll get a "full 7th season" of 22 episodes it's just going to be broken up into the 15 this year, and then next fall, assuming there are no further strikes going on, they'll do a 7 episode "season" to tie up the show. It will technically be a "8th season" in TV time but in production time it will still be the end of the "7th season," so they'll be able to use Michael until the end since he's signed for a 22 episode 7th season. Is that a bit clearer?
Tom's contract for an 8th season is irrelevant since technically there wont be an 8th season, just a 7th season thats spread over a year. If the strike hits the point of no return, WB/CW is moving on after the 22 episode order is filled.
7 Episodes. I want more than a 7 episode 8th Season. :csad:
AgentPat
12-18-2007, 04:22 PM
If they can get the Superman casting right then the rest will all fall into place.:cwink:For me, it's all about Superman. (duh!) Batman and WW are HUGE, but still secondary. I care - but I really don't care - who they get in the other roles as long as the big three rock. Everything else about the film sounds awesome. Why can't they just nail the casting? Please? I'm begging here.
...Actually, I'm whimpering now. :csad:
In light of all the positive buzz and hype after the release of the Dark Knight prologue/trailer, WB should probably reconsider the box of baking soda for Batman while they're at it.Well, no argument there, but I think they ran out of time a good month ago on that. Anybody who they swap out now - assuming they swap out *anybody* - needs to be in pretty good physical shape if they're going to be in skin-tight wardrobes through most of the film. WW - with all that bare skin - especially. ;)
Prison Mike
12-18-2007, 05:55 PM
Well, no argument there, but I think they ran out of time a good month ago on that. Anybody who they swap out now - assuming they swap out *anybody* - needs to be in pretty good physical shape if they're going to be in skin-tight wardrobes through most of the film. WW - with all that bare skin - especially. ;)
I'm looking forward to that.
Showtime
12-18-2007, 09:21 PM
Two Weeks. Two Weeks.
Welcome to the WB Money Pit.
The Incredible Hulk
12-18-2007, 10:23 PM
isnt GL75 the guy who posted that thread about trading an 8th season of SV for Welling in JLA back during the summer and then like a week later all hell broke loose on IESB with the Welling news?
Interesting. Not that I believe that's what's going on, but interesting nonetheless...
Showtime
12-18-2007, 10:50 PM
I'm confused. Was there something new reported by GL75.
The Incredible Hulk
12-18-2007, 11:00 PM
seems like he's explained the reason for the delay in casting news...allegedly
triplet
12-18-2007, 11:21 PM
seems like he's explained the reason for the delay in casting news...allegedly
Hmmm......
Interesting, especially since it looks like Tom just might have a pretty sizable chunk of 2008 free until Smallville starts shooting again in the middle of July. (Given any potential director and actor strikes don't cause any delays there as well.)
AgentPat
12-18-2007, 11:24 PM
isnt GL75 the guy who posted that thread about trading an 8th season of SV for Welling in JLA back during the summer and then like a week later all hell broke loose on IESB with the Welling news?http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/10.gif
Interesting.Indeed. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/yougotit.gif
Not that I believe that's what's going on, but interesting nonetheless...I aint believing anything till I'm standing in line with ticket in hand. :p
...That said *cough* somethin's up. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shifty.gif
Prison Mike
12-18-2007, 11:25 PM
If Tom is signed up for an 8th season, can't Warner Brothers get him out of the contract if they have him play Superman in JL movie. Doesn't WB trump over Almiles in terms of heirarchy for Smallville?
Serene
12-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Well, no argument there, but I think they ran out of time a good month ago on that. Anybody who they swap out now - assuming they swap out *anybody* - needs to be in pretty good physical shape if they're going to be in skin-tight wardrobes through most of the film. WW - with all that bare skin - especially. ;)
Okay, I guess we're revisiting old ground here. I'll play (if only because I know it annoys certain people to see this thread refusing to die :D).
As much as I'd miss SV (and I would miss it like crazy), in light of the current situation with the writer's strike, and losing half of season 7, I could live with the season really going out with a HUGE bang next fall. Imagine if they know for sure that they have 8 episodes to prepare an amazingly kickass launch sequence to a grand finale that everyone's been waiting to see. Better that, than stumbling through a final season without Michael and perhaps not having the allotted budget to do the final episodes justice.
I think I actually like this idea.
If it has any link to Tom getting to play Supes in the JL movie then I have to admit, I'm slightly torn at this point because of my disappointment in some of the casting specs out there. I know we haven't had FIRM confirmation of any of them yet (right?), but the more I see Megan Gale - a disturbingly easy thing to do, btw. :dry:, the more I dislike her as WW. I'm more willing to give the baking soda giant a chance with Bats than I am with Gale as WW. I hope if anyone is "swapped out" it's her.
Still, who am I kidding? If Tom was cast as Supes in this I'd be crazy with anticipation for it. :O
zerohour films
12-18-2007, 11:51 PM
If Tom is signed up for an 8th season, can't Warner Brothers get him out of the contract if they have him play Superman in JL movie. Doesn't WB trump over Almiles in terms of heirarchy for Smallville?
Not sure how it all works, but if you are to believe some of the rumors floating about it would seem the answer is no
Or at least it is more complicated than that.
Showtime
12-19-2007, 12:34 AM
seems like he's explained the reason for the delay in casting news...allegedly
I am confused. Who is this poster? Where is this post? Why should we take anything he says seriously?
AgentPat
12-19-2007, 02:13 AM
Okay, I guess we're revisiting old ground here. I'll play (if only because I know it annoys certain people to see this thread refusing to die.Hee! Is there any other reason to play along?
As much as I'd miss SV (and I would miss it like crazy), in light of the current situation with the writer's strike, and losing half of season 7, I could live with the season really going out with a HUGE bang next fall. Imagine if they know for sure that they have 8 episodes to prepare an amazingly kickass launch sequence to a grand finale that everyone's been waiting to see. Better that, than stumbling through a final season without Michael and perhaps not having the allotted budget to do the final episodes justice.Okay, so much to comment on here. And yeah, it is old ground, but what the hell...
I think the plan all along has been that CW would give SV an 8th season order. Their scripted line-up SUX canal water in the ratings, and SV is the #1 scripted skein. Would you shoot it out of the sky like a clay pigeon? No, not unless you were an idiot. Plus we know how much Warner Entertainment makes from the show through syndication and home video, not to mention ancillary profits and the advantage of having a live action show keep up public awareness of Superman and introduce various other DC characters to an ignorant general public. In a word, SV is a cash cow for Warners. They need a pretty good reason to kill it.
Warner TV also coughs up extra dough when needed for the show, so budget isn't a big deal. Rosenbaum and Kreuk would probably be talked into returning for one more season, even if it's for a limited amount of eps, so that isn't a big deal either. The odd change in credit order going into S7 seemed indicative of them starting to butter-up Rosey, just in case. LOL
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/but.gif
The WGA strike seems to have put a serious dent in *everybody's* plans - even Warner Features. Interestingly, I think it was Zing who first reminded everybody of the Force Majeure clause, which now makes me wonder in retrospect if that wasn't put out there because somebody brought it to *his* attention.
Hah! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/busted.gif
If anything, GL75 acknowledges what we already know but can't explain: WTF is taking Warners so long at making this bloody announcement? Y'all know Brody is IN Oz and has been photographed there, right? And the person who took a picture with him at his hotel confirmed Brody is there for "the film." That would be the JL film, for those of you in the back row. So it looks like this thing is actually happening. So where's the freakin' announcement? What's holding things up? Rumors from various sources said the cast was locked weeks ago.
*sigh*
I think I actually like this idea.I liked the idea from the git go. To be clear, I'd watch SV for as long as they wanted to dish it out - provided Welling was still on the show. I would stop watching if they replaced him, or Clark left. I'm not interested in SV w/o Welling's Clark, and I'd venture a guess others would jump ship (no pun intended) as well if that were to happen. Furthermore, I'd only watch a Supergirl show for as long as Welling guest appeared.
What's my point? Gosh... I dunno. LOL. I'm a pretty swift cookie when it comes to this stuff but I admit to not understanding why an 8th season of SV would have to be sacrificed in order to get Welling into the JL film. Only thing I can think of is that it's part of the agreement *he* negotiated in order to accept the role.
Enter G&M. They're not involved. Duh. So they put up a stink. Double duh. "You can't have him. We can't do this. It presents too much of a hardship" <-- legal term - yada yada. And hence, the deal falls through.
WB goes and casts somebody else, possibly with the understanding that nothing is set-in-stone until a certain date.
Then comes the WGA strike. All of a sudden, there is no hardship for the SV producers. Technically, there's no show past episode 15 until *after* the strike ends, and there's no end in sight at the moment. There is no schedule to foul up or work around. Welling is free as a bird come February, which coincidentally, is when JL starts filming.
Come the date of no return for SV, JL fall-back actor is out, "new" actor is in, and the rest becomes history.
I tell ya, if GL75 is making it all up, he did his homework. 'Cause that's the exact scenario I'd expect to see happen given the little information we all know.
If it has any link to Tom getting to play Supes in the JL movie then I have to admit, I'm slightly torn at this point because of my disappointment in some of the casting specs out there. I know we haven't had FIRM confirmation of any of them yet (right?), but the more I see Megan Gale - a disturbingly easy thing to do, btw. :dry:, the more I dislike her as WW. I'm more willing to give the baking soda giant a chance with Bats than I am with Gale as WW. I hope if anyone is "swapped out" it's her.I still don't get the hatred for Gale. Personally, I would have rather seen Biel, but that fell through for whatever reason. I'd also rather see Reynolds than Brody as Flash - which BTW - looks pretty damn set-in-stone right now. Brody is in. There's way too many coincidences with him being in the right place at the right time. But I digress....
As far as Batman... I dunno. Nobody is gonna replace Bale, but from my own very personal POV, if Welling were cast as Superman, I'm not sure how much attention I'd care to give about the other characters. When he's on the screen, I just as soon be wearing periphery blinders.
Fandom. It is what it is. LOL
Still, who am I kidding? If Tom was cast as Supes in this I'd be crazy with anticipation for it. :OBingo! See? It aint hard. :p
And while I realize there's a small contingent of haterz out there (isn't there always?), I'd be willing to bet a Welling announcement would make a LOT of the recently pent up casting anger dissipate like a fart in the wind. Because if there was one majority rallying cry heard across the Net in the last three or four months, it was to see Welling cast in the film. The proof is out there.
Not sure how it all works, but if you are to believe some of the rumors floating about it would seem the answer is no
Or at least it is more complicated than that.Well said. That's one thing I'm quite sure of - nothing is ever *that* easy. There are far more complications than the public will ever know of.
I am confused. Who is this poster? Where is this post? Why should we take anything he says seriously?You sound stressed, Show. :p
This is all just interesting conversation, rehashed though it might be. As to GL75, just look at his post history and make your own conclusions. There's some interesting stuff there and makes for a fun read. :D
I still don't get the hatred for Gale. Personally, I would have rather seen Biel, but that fell through for whatever reason. I'd also rather see Reynolds than Brody as Flash - which BTW - looks pretty damn set-in-stone right now. Brody is in. There's way too many coincidences with him being in the right place at the right time. But I digress....
Ill try and help you out. I wanted Wally West/Flash to be Reynolds as well. And Im trying to think of reasons why the WB didn't want him. He surely was interested, has a pretty good sense of humor, and not a bad actor. But when I look at Brody I see the same qualities except one thing. Reynolds is a pretty well built guy, Brody isn't. Now Sups and Bats should be the well built ones in this league, not Flash. HE just should have a runners body, thats it. Reynolds got a body for Superman.
http://www.kingofdeadlift.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/ryan-reynolds-workout1.jpg
Basically I don't think Biel decided to take it simply because WW probably wont have many lines in this movie. Just some woman in a bikini, fighting Sups.
As far as Batman... I dunno. Nobody is gonna replace Bale, but from my own very personal POV, if Welling were cast as Superman, I'm not sure how much attention I'd care to give about the other characters. When he's on the screen, I just as soon be wearing periphery blinders.
Which brings my other point. No way is Hammer Batman. The guy is too big... way to big. And Yes, Bale is awesome....
And while I realize there's a small contingent of haterz out there (isn't there always?), I'd be willing to bet a Welling announcement would make a LOT of the recently pent up casting anger dissipate like a fart in the wind. Because if there was one majority rallying cry heard across the Net in the last three or four months, it was to see Welling cast in the film. The proof is out there.
Im not one of them. You see I am pro anything DC related. I like Smallville as much as I like Superman Returns. Ill like Justice league as much as The Dark Knight. I don't ever see the point it loving one thing, and hating the other...
This is all just interesting conversation, rehashed though it might be. As to GL75, just look at his post history and make your own conclusions. There's some interesting stuff there and makes for a fun read. :D[/QUOTE]
I don't know about his post history or track record, but its always fun to have an interesting conversation...
AgentPat
12-19-2007, 02:53 AM
I still don't get the hatred for Gale...Ill try and help you out...You did? Where? I didn't see the "hatred for Gale" explanation part of your post? :p ;)
err... Does these board go off-line around 2-3 every day?
Regarding Gale, they're some people who would complain about anything. To some people Wonder Woman must be perfect. Get an A list actor, who is drop dead gorgeous, perfect body, and who can fight. With Gale, personally I think she looks good, nice body, but not much acting. That is my issue with her, and as stated, others may think she is unattractive. Shes no Monica Dean, but other than her, there aren't many actresses that are head over heals with the woman...
Serene
12-19-2007, 09:01 AM
I still don't get the hatred for Gale. Personally, I would have rather seen Biel, but that fell through for whatever reason.
I'm not sure about Biel as WW either, although I do like her. I still wish they'd cast MEW.
Gale just... well, I guess it's just about everything, except her body. Not that she's not a pretty woman, because she truly is, but she just doesn't have a WW vibe for me. You know how important that can be when casting iconic roles. *cough*
After watching a youtube someone posted of a recent interview with her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnB-FIPpKpo), I'm still not convinced. She says she's just turned 32 which definitely isn't old, by a looong shot, but I thought this movie was casting really young (like early 20's) in order to utilize these actors for several sequels? That would work in terms of the cast being close in age in Tom's case, but how about Batman? Isn't that guy around 14? :dry: ;)
Brody may be near Tom's age, but he looks really young. I did see Brody in some other dramatic movie lately, and I do think he can pull this off. He's far from my first choice, but the kid has charisma - and he's very popular and known by a younger generation of viewers.
I'm still concerned about the casting of Bats and WW for this if Tom were to be involved. I'd rather see him pass than get involved in a movie with a sub-par cast.
Of course, I'd still be there opening day, but you know.. just sayin'. :D
Ultimate_Superman
12-19-2007, 09:26 AM
I would still love for Tom to be Superman but not in Justice League. If they do happen to restart the Superman solo movies I would love to see Tom as Superman in those movies. But if he does sign on to play Superman in Justice League I want it to be because he wants to play Superman not because he can't find work anywhere else so he settles for this movie. Because as much I would love for Tom to be Superman I want a person who is much like Routh and has a passion for the history and wants the role not some one who settles for the for. Now I am not saying Tom is like that but with the situation SV is in right now I am just hoping that is not the case.
avidreader
12-19-2007, 11:20 AM
Gale just... well, I guess it's just about everything, except her body. Not that she's not a pretty woman, because she truly is, but she just doesn't have a WW vibe for me. You know how important that can be when casting iconic roles. *cough*
After watching a youtube someone posted of a recent interview with her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnB-FIPpKpo), I'm still not convinced. She says she's just turned 32 which definitely isn't old, by a looong shot, but I thought this movie was casting really young (like early 20's) in order to utilize these actors for several sequels? That would work in terms of the cast being close in age in Tom's case, but how about Batman? Isn't that guy around 14? :dry: ;)
Oh gah!! Thanks so much for posting that Rove interview, I havent watched that show, in like ....forever. :grin: Remember me telling you about that young Aussie actress who had breast cancer turned bone cancer and died not too long ago. :( Rove was married to her.
And I actually liked Megan Gale. That's the first time I've seen her, and I think she'll make a great Wonder Woman. She has the right look, she's got nice olive skin, and I'm sure she'll be able to work on the accent. :cwink:
Showtime
12-19-2007, 11:45 AM
You sound stressed, Show. :p
This is all just interesting conversation, rehashed though it might be. As to GL75, just look at his post history and make your own conclusions. There's some interesting stuff there and makes for a fun read. :D
Not stressed. Maybe stir crazy. I've been in the house for 3 weeks, just went out and drove for the first time yesterday since my accident, although it wasn't my new truck because that was totaled. :csad:
I can't go back and read his history, these types of posters pop up all the time and disappear. I think it's standard operating procedure.
Taiwarriorz21
12-19-2007, 01:24 PM
Tom Welling is Superman.
The Incredible Hulk
12-19-2007, 03:33 PM
Not stressed. Maybe stir crazy. I've been in the house for 3 weeks, just went out and drove for the first time yesterday since my accident, although it wasn't my new truck because that was totaled. :csad:
I can't go back and read his history, these types of posters pop up all the time and disappear. I think it's standard operating procedure.
He/She came on here and posted a thread asking if we'd be willing to trade an 8th season Smallville to get Welling in the JLA film. This was on like August 17th or something, before which Welling had never ever been mentioned near JLA. Then like a week later Sanchez revealed the Welling news on G4.... Dont know if he/she is credible or not or if that was just one incredible coincidence but it does make you wonder...
Prison Mike
12-19-2007, 03:35 PM
it's probably just a coincidence. I mean how many people here would LOVE to see Welling as Superman? I'm sure people were thinking of it even before Sanchez said anything on TV.
Migu-EL
12-19-2007, 03:37 PM
[quote=The Incredible Hulk;13581220]He/She came on here and posted a thread asking if we'd be willing to trade an 8th season Smallville to get Welling in the JLA film. This was on like August 17th or something, before which Welling had never ever been mentioned near JLA. Then like a week later Sanchez revealed the Welling news on G4.... Dont know if he/she is credible or not or if that was just one incredible coincidence but it does make you wonder...quote]
Yes it does.:word:
triplet
12-19-2007, 03:38 PM
No Heroes filmed all the scripts they had written they just stopped with the half way point in order to have a good season finale. The second half of the season will now be the first half of the third season. They did have a stock pill all the way to the 16th show I think because we were getting spoilers on what was suppose to happen up till then.
Nope, not according to Kring.
Here is what Ausiello said about it over on TVGuide.com:
As many a hysterical Aushole has informed me in the past 72 hours, Heroes creator Tim Kring debuted a new Heroes trailer over the weekend at the Jules Verne Adventure Film Festival of Los Angeles (huh?!), which features never-before-seen footage from Volume III, "Villains." (A wonky version of the trailer can be viewed here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iBLZ_4rTuQ).) Where'd the footage come from, you ask? Well, it turns out that the show managed to shoot a bunch of scenes for Episodes 12 and 13 before production ground to a halt. But those episodes are incomplete and, therefore, can't air until the conflict is resolved. "Hopefully," says my spy, "the strike will end, they'll finish those two — and a few more — and have a proper end of the season."
http://www.tvguide.com/ask-ausiello
Migu-EL
12-19-2007, 03:43 PM
it's probably just a coincidence. I mean how many people here would LOVE to see Welling as Superman? I'm sure people were thinking of it even before Sanchez said anything on TV.
But it has more to do with the timing of that thread. It was a week before Welling's rumored involvement to JLA was announced. There could have been a thread like that posted back in February when WB announced that they bought the script for JLA and it wouldn't have had such an impact
triplet
12-19-2007, 03:52 PM
But it has more to do with the timing of that thread. It was a week before Welling's rumored involvement to JLA was announced. There could have been a thread like that posted back in February when WB announced that they bought the script for JLA and it wouldn't have had such an impact
It's interesting that his verbiage has an authoratative ring to it, like he "knows" something.
*shrug*
I guess we'll see, but anyone know when the point of no return is for salvaging the season?
I believe I'd heard mid-january but I'm not sure where I read that...
Showtime
12-19-2007, 05:26 PM
I'm not getting caught up in that. There are way too many frauds on here and other boards.
AgentPat
12-19-2007, 05:32 PM
err... Does these board go off-line around 2-3 every day?Yes. By my reckoning, it happens around 2:20ish and then comes back up around 2:50ish ET A.M. every day. How sad is it that I know that? LOL Apparently, the boards do some kind of back-up thang at that time. Must be frustrating as hell for folks on the Left Coast because it all happens before midnight, and that's still rather early IMHO. But it's only a half hour, so.......
Regarding Gale, they're some people who would complain about anything. To some people Wonder Woman must be perfect. Get an A list actor, who is drop dead gorgeous, perfect body, and who can fight. With Gale, personally I think she looks good, nice body, but not much acting. That is my issue with her, and as stated, others may think she is unattractive. She's no Monica Dean, but other than her, there aren't many actresses that are head over heals with the woman...Diplomatically said. You been hanging out with Showtime? ;)
I'm not sure about Biel as WW either, although I do like her. I still wish they'd cast MEW.Interestingly, my opinion of Winstead is the opposite of yours with Gale. I think Winstead is a good actress, and she could probably handle the role just fine, but she doesn't come *close* to looking like WW to me. I think she's kind of... plain.
After watching a youtube someone posted of a recent interview with her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnB-FIPpKpo), I'm still not convinced.Oh, MAN! I never saw that clip. Thanks for posting it. And holy... wow. I'm SOLD!! She's tall - REALLY tall (LOL!), witty and gorgeous. My ONLY concern is the accent. Can she lose it? I dunno, but I hope so.
She says she's just turned 32 which definitely isn't old, by a looong shot, but I thought this movie was casting really young (like early 20's) in order to utilize these actors for several sequels? That would work in terms of the cast being close in age in Tom's case, but how about Batman? Isn't that guy around 14? :dry: ;)I'm trying to not think about him LOL. But Hammer has a really deep voice, and he'll be wearing a cowl for most of the film, so his age shouldn't be that obvious. As to Gale's age, I thought Monica Dean would have been perfect for the role too, so her age doesn't phase me.
I don't give two poops about the sequel - they should cast for what's most appropriate for the first film and worry about the sequel(s) later. 'Sides, sequels aren't always a sure thing. *cough*
Brody may be near Tom's age, but he looks really young.LOL! Y'know, they *both* look young. :p
But I'd rather have somebody in their 30's with experience and an amazing charisma despite looking young, than somebody who's in their 20's, inexperienced, plain looking, but just happens to look older than they actually are.
I did see Brody in some other dramatic movie lately, and I do think he can pull this off. He's far from my first choice, but the kid has charisma - and he's very popular and known by a younger generation of viewers.Ironically, my only experience with Brody is from Magnetic, so it would be a hoot to see him and Welling together again.
I'm still concerned about the casting of Bats and WW for this if Tom were to be involved. I'd rather see him pass than get involved in a movie with a sub-par cast.Well, it's not like Maggie Grace elevated his game much.
JL has an award-winning production team behind it and a director who knows heart as well as action. The studio is throwing money at them because they want the film to birth multiple comicbook-based franchises if possible. And oh yeah... Welling would be playing Superman if cast LOL. I can't think of a more entertaining role for him right now. :oldrazz:
Of course, I'd still be there opening day, but you know.. just sayin'. :DI'd go to see The Fog 2, so I'm a little biased on films that Welling does. But if he's not in JL, then the rest of the cast better be stellar because I have little interest in the cast who are rumored so far. To be clear, I think they'll do okay, but I'm not overly interested in it just for the characters. I want to see some familiar faces - and Brody is FAR from a B.O. draw for me. Gale? Pretty, but... eh. Common and Hammer? Who?
Jeeze. Throw sister a bone here. McConaughey? Duhamel? Willis?!! LOL Anybody. Cast Welling and I'll personally drag everybody I know into the theater on opening day if I have to. Hell, I dragged one of my best friends to see The Fog on opening weekend.
...she hasn't talked to me since.
LOL!!! J/K!!!!! :D
Serene
12-19-2007, 07:47 PM
Oh gah!! Thanks so much for posting that Rove interview, I havent watched that show, in like ....forever. Remember me telling you about that young Aussie actress who had breast cancer turned bone cancer and died not too long ago. :( Rove was married to her.
Oh, yes, I remember you mentioning her. Very sad.
And I actually liked Megan Gale. That's the first time I've seen her, and I think she'll make a great Wonder Woman. She has the right look, she's got nice olive skin, and I'm sure she'll be able to work on the accent.
I dunno, I wasn't going to mention the accent, but I hope she's able to work around that. Maybe they can dub her voice in. ;)
I saw American Gangster not too long ago, and as much as I think Russell Crowe is a fantastic actor, his Aussie accent kept slipping through his Jersey one and it totally stood out for me.
Yes. By my reckoning, it happens around 2:20ish and then comes back up around 2:50ish ET A.M. every day. How sad is it that I know that? LOL
Hee! Um, yeah, it's 1:20 to 1:50-ish for me. Glad to know I'm not the only one sad enough to know that.
Interestingly, my opinion of Winstead is the opposite of yours with Gale. I think Winstead is a good actress, and she could probably handle the role just fine, but she doesn't come *close* to looking like WW to me. I think she's kind of... plain.
Oh, MAN! I never saw that clip. Thanks for posting it. And holy... wow. I'm SOLD!! She's tall - REALLY tall (LOL!), witty and gorgeous.
LOL... good thing we don't care enough about the WW casting war or we'd SO be on opposite sides this time.
I'm trying to not think about him LOL. But Hammer has a really deep voice, and he'll be wearing a cowl for most of the film, so his age shouldn't be that obvious. As to Gale's age, I thought Monica Dean would have been perfect for the role too, so her age doesn't phase me.
Of course, I didn't like Monica Dean's look either. :p
Good point about Hammer and the cowl.
I don't give two poops about the sequel - they should cast for what's most appropriate for the first film and worry about the sequel(s) later. 'Sides, sequels aren't always a sure thing. *cough*
Oh, I realize that, but I just thought that's what the rumored reasoning was for getting a really young cast.
LOL! Y'know, they *both* look young.
They're really pushing it with Tom though. He's an amazing looking 30 year old, but his maturity has really taken over, even on SV, with them 'youthifying' him all the time. I think Brody could still play a h.s. kid.
Ironically, my only experience with Brody is from Magnetic, so it would be a hoot to see him and Welling together again.
I really don't object to his casting at all anymore. Like I said, seeing him in that movie recently made all the difference.
Well, it's not like Maggie Grace elevated his game much.
Exactly why I want him to have a really decent, and even stellar cast to work with this time. CBTD may have been a light-hearted family film, but he had real quality castmates in Martin and Hunt. His entire reason for wanting to make CBTD (according to him) was the chance to work with Steve Martin.
Maggie Grace actually made that bad film even worse, IMO. Even the fog acted rings around her.
As an aside - Didja know Steve Martin is number two man on my list? Seriously.
JL has an award-winning production team behind it and a director who knows heart as well as action. The studio is throwing money at them because they want the film to birth multiple comicbook-based franchises if possible. And oh yeah... Welling would be playing Superman if cast LOL. I can't think of a more entertaining role for him right now. :oldrazz:
I think it has great potential, and I plan on seeing it no matter who they cast at this point. But I am still keeping the fingers crossed for that one certain actor.
I'd go to see The Fog 2, so I'm a little biased on films that Welling does.
I think we know that a few of us would buy tickets to see Phone Book Readings, starring Tom Welling. :D
Hell, I dragged one of my best friends to see The Fog on opening weekend.
...she hasn't talked to me since.
LOL!!! J/K!!!!! :D
I hear ya. I dragged TWO co-workers and they still give make fun of that movie. Although, they did agree that Tom was the best part of the film. ;)
avidreader
12-19-2007, 07:59 PM
I dunno, I wasn't going to mention the accent, but I hope she's able to work around that. Maybe they can dub her voice in. ;)
I saw American Gangster not too long ago, and as much as I think Russell Crowe is a fantastic actor, his Aussie accent kept slipping through his Jersey one and it totally stood out for me.
Ya know what, I think Crowe does that on purpose. I remember seeing him in an interview just after he was cast in L.A. Confidential and he made a point of saying that he auditioned for the movie and was adamant about not dropping his accent.
I'm not the right person to answer this, but Kidman, Ledger, Blanchett, Collette, etc. etc., they all do a pretty decent job of imitating an American accent. Dont they? :cwink: :woot:
Serene
12-19-2007, 08:33 PM
Ya know what, I think Crowe does that on purpose. I remember seeing him in an interview just after he was cast in L.A. Confidential and he made a point of saying that he auditioned for the movie and was adamant about not dropping his accent.
That seems like a silly stance for an actor to take.
I'm not the right person to answer this, but Kidman, Ledger, Blanchett, Collette, etc. etc., they all do a pretty decent job of imitating an American accent. Dont they? :cwink: :woot:
Off-hand, I'd say that Kidman is the only one in that group who I think let's her accent slip sometimes.
Toni Collette does a fantastic job - See Little Miss Sunshine for proof.
The hands-down winner has to be Hugh Laurie on House. He has the BEST American accent I think I've ever heard, especially from someone with such a strong British accent.
triplet
12-20-2007, 11:13 AM
Ya know what, I think Crowe does that on purpose. I remember seeing him in an interview just after he was cast in L.A. Confidential and he made a point of saying that he auditioned for the movie and was adamant about not dropping his accent.
He was talking about his audition, which he did use his natural accent for.
I think he usually does pretty well with an American accent except when his character gets really emoitional. The scene in the hotel room when he's yelling at Al Pacino's character in The Insider is a perfect example... his accent was so good, but when he started yelling it slipped.
I'm not the right person to answer this, but Kidman, Ledger, Blanchett, Collette, etc. etc., they all do a pretty decent job of imitating an American accent. Dont they? :cwink: :woot:
Kidman doesn't always hit it, like Serene said, but Blanchette and Collette are nearly always perfect.
Ledger was a revelation in Brokeback Mountain. He was perfect and there absolutely no hint of his Aussie accent.
avidreader
12-20-2007, 11:37 AM
That seems like a silly stance for an actor to take.
Oh, I dunno. It must be hard enough to be a really good actor, but it would be even harder if you had to change your accent all the time just to .... I dont know why. Why do they have to pretend that they're American all the time. Its a big world nowadays, and people from everywhere live everywhere. Accents are a little bit of a pet peeve of mine. ;)
Specific location character playing is a little different I guess, but I really cringed at Meryl Streep's attempt at an Australian accent in Evil Angel. I think it would have been far better if they just let her talk in her usual way.
So I can see why Crowe would go in to an audition and say "you want me to act in your movie, then this is how you're going to get me."
He was talking about his audition, which he did use his natural accent for.
Yep! That's what I was saying. Guy Pearce was also in that movie and he auditioned under the pretence that he was actually American.
Ledger was a revelation in Brokeback Mountain. He was perfect and there absolutely no hint of his Aussie accent.
His performance in that role was unbelievable.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program.....
TOM WELLING AS SUPERMAN. :super:
musclesforsupes
12-20-2007, 02:29 PM
Well I was over in the IESB boards the other day and still seems like Welling has a chance.
Serene
12-20-2007, 10:42 PM
Oh, I dunno. It must be hard enough to be a really good actor, but it would be even harder if you had to change your accent all the time just to .... I dont know why. Why do they have to pretend that they're American all the time. Its a big world nowadays, and people from everywhere live everywhere.
It's not a case of everyone having to pretend they're American. It's a case of playing a character that is based on an actual person and changing their accent. Can you imagine Queen Elizabeth with a New Yawk accent. ;) It stands out.
Specific location character playing is a little different I guess, but I really cringed at Meryl Streep's attempt at an Australian accent in Evil Angel. I think it would have been far better if they just let her talk in her usual way.
I had to look it up to be sure, but that was called A Cry in the Dark over here. Your cringing at her in that movie probably equates to my reaction to Crowe in American Gangster. Although, I thought he did a marvelous job other than the slips.
So I can see why Crowe would go in to an audition and say "you want me to act in your movie, then this is how you're going to get me."
And in most cases, he's a good enough actor that a little bit of a slipping accent is entirely worth having him, I'm sure. Better Crowe with a bit of an accent, than some lame-o actor with a perfect accent.
TOM WELLING AS SUPERMAN. :super:
Ditto. :D
Docker2.0
12-20-2007, 10:47 PM
Well I was over in the IESB boards the other day and still seems like Welling has a chance.
You dont think that this guy has months off and the WB isn't tryingto get this done without him do you? :cwink:
triplet
12-21-2007, 03:41 PM
This is topical for this thread only because of the timing of the announcement and the start date of the shoot.
Maybe they've already reached the point of no return for the smallville season:
Kristin Kreuk is Chun-Li in Street Fighter!
Source: ComingSoon.net December 21, 2007
ComingSoon.net has learned that "Smallville" star Kristin Kreuk will play Chun-Li in Hyde Park Entertainment's Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li! Directed by Andrzej Bartkowiak from a Justin Marks script, the action pic starts filming in Thailand in March, 2008. 20th Century Fox will distribute the live-action feature based on Capcom's video game. The movie is focused on female fighter Chun-Li and her journey for justice.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40381
blksuperman2
12-21-2007, 03:50 PM
^ Cool news. She'd make a good Chun-Li.
RakuMon
12-21-2007, 04:06 PM
^ Cool news. She'd make a good Chun-Li.
Agreed. I'm just relieved they went with an Asian (North) American actress. One of the early rumors was Jessica Biel for Chun Li. Ugh.
Cmill216
12-21-2007, 04:07 PM
Wow. Congrats to the Kreuky. This is a big opportunity for her.
triplet
12-21-2007, 04:18 PM
It's a lead in a major popcorn film, so it's good for her but does it mean curtains for Smallville's season 7?
I'm thinking it probably does...
If thats the case, than Tom Welling might be available for a certain movie that is suppose to start filming February! :cwink:
The Incredible Hulk
12-21-2007, 10:01 PM
It's a lead in a major popcorn film, so it's good for her but does it mean curtains for Smallville's season 7?
I'd say thats a pretty good indicator....
zerohour films
12-21-2007, 10:11 PM
And so the plot thickens...
AgentPat
12-21-2007, 10:23 PM
This is topical for this thread only because of the timing of the announcement and the start date of the shoot.
Maybe they've already reached the point of no return for the smallville season:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40381Well now aint THAT interesting! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif
What's the opinion of those in the know? Serene? Jana? Is this legit or another unsubstantiated Teen Wolf rumor? If true, I guess it answers the S7 question and the point of no return, which obviously must have come and gone. I wonder when Kreuk auditioned for the role? It opens up a whole new can-o-controversy AFAIC.
Serene
12-21-2007, 10:52 PM
Well now aint THAT interesting! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif
What's the opinion of those in the know? Serene? Jana? Is this legit or another unsubstantiated Teen Wolf rumor? If true, I guess it answers the S7 question and the point of no return, which obviously must have come and gone. I wonder when Kreuk auditioned for the role? It opens up a whole new can-o-controversy AFAIC.
Comingsoon.net seems to be the originator of this "news." I don't know what their track record is for accuracy, but the news has spread like WILDFIRE across all the usual geek sites. I have yet to see any official confirmation though. Perhaps Jana will have some light to shed, but I haven't seen her comment about this yet.
I'm excited, if it's true. Even if this turns out to be Kristin's "Fog," the exposure is good for her career since it's a lead role in a fairly visible film. Partition was a lovely movie and she did a fabulous job, but indie Canadian films just don't get a lot of notice.
Kristin's been all over the place lately giving interviews along with Allison about their joint internet ventures. (Whole 'nuther story) But this is the first I've heard of this Streetfighter thing.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Sad, that we're so used to doing that. :dry:
triplet
12-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I'd say thats a pretty good indicator....
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
And so the plot thickens...
It certainly does.
Well now aint THAT interesting! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif
What's the opinion of those in the know? Serene? Jana? Is this legit or another unsubstantiated Teen Wolf rumor? If true, I guess it answers the S7 question and the point of no return, which obviously must have come and gone.
Yep, I guess it does.
Comingsoon.net seems to be the originator of this "news." I don't know what their track record is for accuracy, but the news has spread like WILDFIRE across all the usual geek sites. I have yet to see any official confirmation though. Perhaps Jana will have some light to shed, but I haven't seen her comment about this yet.
I'm excited, if it's true. Even if this turns out to be Kristin's "Fog," the exposure is good for her career since it's a lead role in a fairly visible film. Partition was a lovely movie and she did a fabulous job, but indie Canadian films just don't get a lot of notice.
Kristin's been all over the place lately giving interviews along with Allison about their joint internet ventures. (Whole 'nuther story) But this is the first I've heard of this Streetfighter thing.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Sad, that we're so used to doing that. :dry:
Sad, but true. I'm not sure what to think. I"m sad to think that they only have 15 episodes this year, but maybe I'll have time to write that great American Screenplay now that the season is already more than half over.
:(
I'm very torn how I feel about this...
I mean, it sucks big time that the season is cut short, so will it be worth it if (because of the strike-shortened season) that we get Tom in a film I'm not so excited about anymore?
Since we now hear about Kristen's involvement in this film, will we finally hear (one way or another) about who the hell's been cast in JLA? Or are they really waiting until January now so the new prexy of Warners can do the announcing (as emijayne said)?
I think zerohour hit the nail square on the head:
The plot indeed has thickened.
If this were a Smallville episode, I'd be enjoying the plot twists a whole of a hell lot more than I am now.
:(
Living inside a plot that keeps twisting ain't as much fun as watching them on TV.
triplet
12-22-2007, 12:59 AM
This is topical for this thread only because of the timing of the announcement and the start date of the shoot.
Maybe they've already reached the point of no return for the smallville season:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40381
Here is emijayne's reply to my similar post over on IESB.net:
I've been out all day looking for a new truck so I hadn't had time to post about this. I'm not trying to get anyone's hopes up, but after the second full week in January, the entire cast of Smallville has an empty schedule to fill. Kristen Kreuk took over the role of Chun Li from Jessica Biel who surprisingly also gave up the role of Wonder Woman.
None of this means Welling will do JLA, but there is definitely no longer a scheduling conflict. AND his reps still say "No comment" as of this morning.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=5847#5847
Lighthouse
12-22-2007, 01:05 AM
I'm still surprised we haven't heard anything about casting, especially with filming supposedly taking place in February. Star Trek did this too, holding off casting announcements till the last minute. As much as I'd like it, I still don't think Tom is going to get the role.
Its funny cause the wait is actually getting easier. I think I'm starting to care a lot less about DC in general. I never go to Blue Tights anymore, I don't care about Man of Steel or Justice League. Except for Smallville and Nolan's Batfranchise, my enthusiasm for DC has sputtered out. Maybe this is a good thing.
AgentPat
12-22-2007, 01:42 AM
...Living inside a plot that keeps twisting ain't as much fun as watching them on TV.Yeah, 'cause they usually have a happy ending on TV. LOL
So somebody fill me in here... Street Fighter? Really? I mean, seriously? REALLY? :huh:
That's totally not the kind of film I'd imagine Kreuk to be interested in, at ALL! The first one was with that pinnacle of acting talent, Jean-Claude Van Damme, right?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111301/
If this turns out to be true, then I think things could get verrrrry interesting again on the JL front. We'll see. Did you guys see the new casting rumor linking Bond girl Eva Green to auditions that are still - apparently - going on Down Under?
Anyhoo, on a whole 'nutha topic, I found this article interesting...
Variety
12/21/07
Direct-to-DVD movies growing in popularity
Unsucsessful TV shows find niche in market
By SAM THIELMAN
Niche-market TV shows may get canceled, but that doesn't mean they can't have another season.
With the direct-to-DVD market, shows that fizzled in the ratings but managed to keep selling DVDs are finding new ways to generate original content.
Some seek a new life on TV, and others are looking to use their established TV and DVD cred to launch new lines of higher-end direct-to-DVD movies -- a traditionally down-market arena comprised of lesser action movies and "Bambi" sequels.
With the cult sci-fi cartoon "Futurama" on Fox, David X. Cohen lived a producer's worst nightmare: "People became fans after it went off the air," he says.
Unlike the resurrected "Family Guy" -- which has gone from cancellation to phenomenal simultaneous success on TBS, Fox, Cartoon Network, in syndication and on DVD -- "Futurama's" similar popularity in boxed sets and in reruns on the Cartoon Network's Adult Swim wasn't enough to earn it a network reprieve. The cold shoulder put Cohen and creator Matt Groening into uncharted waters: They had a property with a fan base but no outlet to connect them.
So Cohen and Groening reassembled the "Futurama" team and went, literally, back to the drawing board, where they planned out four entirely new 90-minute direct-to-DVD movies, starting with the recent "Bender's Big Score."
If that sounds like a lot of content, it should. "Futurama" seasons ran between 13 and 22 episodes when the show was on the air, and the movies time out to 16 episodes worth of content. When the movies are broken down into individual shows and aired on Comedy Central in a couple of years, Cohen and Groening will have produced an entire fifth season of the series without any involvement from the network.
"We made it quite clear to them (Fox) that we would like to be un-canceled," Cohen says. "We're back to 20th Century Fox Television -- the studio. The network is out of the loop completely, and if they want to put us back on the air again, we would be very interested in that."
"Futurama's" approach may seem backwards -- using DVD popularity to market a TV show, instead of the other way around -- but thus far the plan has worked. In its first week on sale, "Bender's Big Score" reportedly sold almost 100,000 copies, grossing $1.97 million.
"Futurama" is using DVD to tap the sci-fi market -- a demo traditionally interested in the bells and whistles that the tech-friendly format can provide. Joining the geekfest, DC Comics and Warner Home Video have been producing direct-to-DVD animated films that combine well-loved comicbook stories like Darwyn Cooke's "New Frontier" with a version of the DC-animated series "house style" tweaked to look like specific comicbook artists (like Cooke).
Since none of the DC-animated shows (like "Justice League Unlimited" and "Batman: The Animated Series") are airing original episodes, the new movies fill a large vacuum. Jeff Brown, Warner Home Video senior VP and GM, TV, family and animation, is quick to point out that the studio doesn't consider the DVD movies a replacement for the TV shows.
"By going to video first and not following a traditional ratings model for TV networks and not marketing to children, we could be more faithful to the stories," Brown says. DC animation mastermind Bruce Timm produces the shows, and the first DVD in the series, "Superman: Doomsday" (based on the "Death of Superman" comics), has successfully banked on the crossover between fans of the comicbooks and fans of the cartoons.
Reported sales for "Doomsday" come to about 600,000 units since its Sept. 18 release -- 30% ahead of what sources say Warner was predicting for the title.
The next DVD in the series, "New Frontier," is tracking ahead of its expected preorders for its Feb. 26 release, and Warner has planned a series of "Batman" shorts by well-known anime directors to coincide with the 2008 release of "The Dark Knight" on the bigscreen.
Cartoon budgets are low enough to make these projects interesting to studios even if they fizzle, but live-action shows are venturing only tentatively into DVD originals. Even then, the properties are still mostly those of the fan-supported sci-fi persuasion.
Live-action producers have had their fingers burnt on this kind of experimentation: The quickly-canceled "Firefly" had enough buzz to generate the $39 million "Serenity," but the film flopped (its worldwide gross was almost exactly the same as its budget) while the DVDs flourished, selling about 2 million copies on their first go-round (there's a new 2-disc set out now).
The jury is still out on the existing live-action direct-to-DVD content: J. Michael Straczynski recently returned to his show "Babylon 5" with "Lost Tales: Voices in the Dark," the first in a projected "Lost Tales" series. Warner hedged its bets -- the 75-minute "Voices" stands alone, like "Bender's Big Score" -- and hasn't planned a follow-up, though Straczynski has said he'd like to continue the shows. The Sci-Fi network's flagship show, "Battlestar Galactica," is also flirting with DVD-exclusive content in the form of an extended version of "Razor," a two-episode stand-alone story that aired earlier this year.
If DVD hasn't revolutionized the market for original TV series, it's at least on its way to changing the landscape significantly.
With the format's miniscule production cost-to-retail-price ratio, Cohen and others are hoping "Bender's Big Score" is at the vanguard of a completely new business model, where "the fans have the power to bring a show back to life." If not, Cohen says, "We'll see what we're reincarnated as next time."
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978106
Lighthouse
12-22-2007, 01:47 AM
I really need a new Kevin Conroy Batman story. A solo Batman story. The thought of there never being another one makes me weep.
TheLongestDay
12-22-2007, 05:37 AM
the batman anime sounds good tho...
COMPO
12-22-2007, 06:23 AM
to be honest i liked the original batman design. I didnt like it with the new adventures.
GreenLantern75
12-22-2007, 03:23 PM
Well now aint THAT interesting! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif
What's the opinion of those in the know? Serene? Jana? Is this legit or another unsubstantiated Teen Wolf rumor? If true, I guess it answers the S7 question and the point of no return, which obviously must have come and gone. I wonder when Kreuk auditioned for the role? It opens up a whole new can-o-controversy AFAIC.
This is basically her contingency plan similar to what Welling has cooked up. She's subject to the same "zero barrier" that he and the rest are with this. That time hasn't passed yet but its drawing nearer. At this point, I dont see how we avoid passing that. Unless the studio heads all have some kind of "Christmas Carol" dream in the next few nights.
Think right around the time the college football champ is crowned. Could be some very interesting announcements made right around that time.
This is basically her contingency plan similar to what Welling has cooked up. She's subject to the same "zero barrier" that he and the rest are with this. That time hasn't passed yet but its drawing nearer. At this point, I dont see how we avoid passing that. Unless the studio heads all have some kind of "Christmas Carol" dream in the next few nights.
Think right around the time the college football champ is crowned. Could be some very interesting announcements made right around that time.
College football doesn't have a champ. There are many champs in the end, which bowl game out of the many are you talking about?
triplet
12-22-2007, 06:11 PM
College football doesn't have a champ. There are many champs in the end, which bowl game out of the many are you talking about?
The winner of the Rose Bowl is the closest thing we have to a college champ and isn't that played on New Years Day?
zerohour films
12-22-2007, 07:44 PM
There's the National Championship game between LSU and Ohio State.
That should be somewhere around the 7th or 8th of January.
That is probably what he meant.
zerohour films
12-22-2007, 07:45 PM
double post
zerohour films
12-22-2007, 07:45 PM
woah triple post!
Sorry about that
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/b_0_0_m/WELLINGASSUPES-2.png
Simple yet decent :)
AgentPat
12-22-2007, 10:18 PM
This is basically her contingency plan similar to what Welling has cooked up. She's subject to the same "zero barrier" that he and the rest are with this. That time hasn't passed yet but its drawing nearer. At this point, I dont see how we avoid passing that. Unless the studio heads all have some kind of "Christmas Carol" dream in the next few nights.
Think right around the time the college football champ is crowned. Could be some very interesting announcements made right around that time.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pray.gif http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pray.gif http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pray.gif
Please let this happen. Please, oh please!!!
Emi said "after the second full week in January, the entire cast of Smallville has an empty schedule to fill." I'm not sure if by second "full" week, she means the 13th or the 20th, but either way, I don't see the WGA and the studio moguls coming to any sort of agreement that soon. Not unless they have a miracle up their sleeves. This truly is getting interesting. And the clock is ticking...
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hourglass.jpg
Simple yet decent :)That is very nice, Boom! Great job! :D :up:
Docker2.0
12-22-2007, 10:38 PM
Pat, I think God may have answered our prayer. Or is at least trying to answer them. :o
JackMercy
12-22-2007, 10:40 PM
...And these...are the Days of our Lives...
:sleepy:
Ehh...Call me when the "zero barrier" passes...
I might have some free DeLoreans to send all of you...
Wise moguls have said...
Directors always say their movies are "going ahead," until...
...they're not.
Happy Holidays, all.
:cool:
AgentPat
12-22-2007, 10:44 PM
...And these...are the Days of our Lives...
:sleepy:
Ehh...Call me when the "zero barrier" passes...
I might have some free DeLoreans to send all of you...
Wise moguls have said...
Directors always say their movies are "going ahead," until...
...they're not.
Happy Holidays, all.
:cool:Oh crap, Jack. You sayin' what I think you're sayin'? Is my original hunch still correct? I really didn't *want* to be right this time, y'know? :(
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sadcat.jpg
Serene
12-22-2007, 10:46 PM
Perhaps Jack is referring to KK's possible movie?
So, Jack.. should I cross-post your post in the KK thread, or just leave it here in this one? :ninja:
triplet
12-22-2007, 10:50 PM
...And these...are the Days of our Lives...
:sleepy:
Ehh...Call me when the "zero barrier" passes...
I might have some free DeLoreans to send all of you...
Wise moguls have said...
Directors always say their movies are "going ahead," until...
...they're not.
Happy Holidays, all.
:cool:
Jeez, Jack...
Are you saying the film is NOT going forward?
*facepalm*
AgentPat
12-22-2007, 10:52 PM
Perhaps Jack is referring to KK's possible movie?I don't think so. There was nothing about a director saying his movie was going forward in the KK news, nor was there anything about GL75's "zero barrier" metaphor.
Back in November, I started to *seriously* doubt JL was gonna happen - and posted as such in various forums. With the recent news of half the rumored cast being in OZ right NOW, I've been hoping that I may have been wrong. But I'm getting the impression from Jack that that perhaps may not be the case...
JackMercy
12-22-2007, 11:06 PM
So, Jack.. should I cross-post your post in the KK thread, or just leave it here in this one? :ninja:
I try to keep my messages generally on-topic...
;)
triplet
12-22-2007, 11:07 PM
I don't think so. There was nothing about a director saying his movie was going forward in the KK news, nor was there anything about GL75's "zero barrier" metaphor.
Back in November, I started to *seriously* doubt JL was gonna happen - and posted as such in various forums. With the recent news of half the rumored cast being in OZ right NOW, I've been hoping that I may have been wrong. But I'm getting the impression from Jack that that perhaps may not be the case...
What's a "zero barrier" anyways?
:confused:
AgentPat
12-22-2007, 11:25 PM
I try to keep my messages generally on-topic...
;)Indeed. Which leads me back to sulking. 'Cause as horrific as this movie was shaping up to be given the rumored cast, there was still a little somethin' somethin' in me that still wanted to see it.
*sigh*
What's a "zero barrier" anyways?
:confused:Hee! Did you see Armageddon?
"Zero barrier" is GL75's funny way of saying the point of no return for SV writers to come back and finish out the season *this* season. If the WGA strike got resolved tomorrow, SV could pick right back up again after the holidays like nothing ever happened. Well... they'd be pressed for time, but they could still get it done. But if the strike goes beyond the second full week in January (according to Jayne), then that's the point of no return. It's zero barrier, aka game over.
Serene
12-23-2007, 12:57 AM
Well, no matter what happens with this silly movie business - at least Tom's still keeping himself in shape. Apparently he was spotting working out in a NY gym 2 days ago. :D
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/b_0_0_m/WELLINGASSUPES-2.png
Simple yet decent :)
Great manip. If that's a Ross piece I've never seen it before. Where's it from?
Antonello Blueberry
12-23-2007, 06:43 AM
Great manip. If that's a Ross piece I've never seen it before. Where's it from?
It's the cover for Superman 675 shipping in April.
That is very nice, Boom! Great job! :D :up:
Thank you :)
Great manip. If that's a Ross piece I've never seen it before. Where's it from?
Thanks, not too sure I just found it somewhere and really liked the pose and backround :yay:
It's the cover for Superman 675 shipping in April.
^^ :woot:
zerohour films
12-23-2007, 01:27 PM
Here's another tidbit about the crew to tie us over until we hear about the cast:
Vivienne To working on 'Justice League' art
submitted by: Robertn
December 23, 2007 - 114 reads
Illustrator and concept artist Vivienne To is apparently on board the 'Justice League' feature film. Check out this excerpt from her website: Vivienne To is an illustrator and concept artist whose fascination with creating images began at an early age. Inspired by the cartoons and books she enjoyed as a child, she developed a love of creating characters and imaginary worlds.
Since completing her studies at the College of Fine Arts in 2006, she has been working as an illustrator for film and television (http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30540#). She is currently working on the Warner Bros. feature film Justice League, while trying to improve her work and become a better artist and storyteller.
Link: http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30540
Prison Mike
12-24-2007, 01:35 PM
this movie is still going forward? Ugh.
AgentPat
12-24-2007, 01:51 PM
this movie is still going forward? Ugh.Define "going forward?" :D
Lighthouse
12-24-2007, 07:28 PM
Indeed. Which leads me back to sulking. 'Cause as horrific as this movie was shaping up to be given the rumored cast, there was still a little somethin' somethin' in me that still wanted to see it.
*sigh*
Hee! Did you see Armageddon?
"Zero barrier" is GL75's funny way of saying the point of no return for SV writers to come back and finish out the season *this* season. If the WGA strike got resolved tomorrow, SV could pick right back up again after the holidays like nothing ever happened. Well... they'd be pressed for time, but they could still get it done. But if the strike goes beyond the second full week in January (according to Jayne), then that's the point of no return. It's zero barrier, aka game over.
Actually, I think zero barrier was on December 9th for all shows. On that day, actors had to be returned to full pay or be realeased as free agents.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976892.html?categoryid=1066&cs=1&p=0
AgentPat
12-24-2007, 07:44 PM
Actually, I think zero barrier was on December 9th for all shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVKJpkq-wNoOkay, I just watched that ENTIRE youtube video, and other than the jokes about bacon - which were pretty funny I might add - I don't get it? :huh:
Oh wait... you edited your post? Stop confusing me! :mad: :p
I'm pretty sure GL75 was referring specifically to the point of no return for SV. Maybe he'll come back and elaborate a little on that. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about the script "issues" recently brought up over in the JL forum and addressed over at IESB today. ;)
As for me, on the WGA strike, JL and TW's potential involvement - or lack thereof - I throw my hands up. Between the funny metaphors here, doom and gloom over on the JL forum, and Emi swearing up and down everything is on track at IESB, I give up. Is it February yet?
Merry X-Mas folks, and all that holiday good cheer!
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/xmaslights.gif
triplet
12-24-2007, 09:04 PM
Actually, I think zero barrier was on December 9th for all shows. On that day, actors had to be returned to full pay or be realeased as free agents.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976892.html?categoryid=1066&cs=1&p=0
No, that was for shows that had ended production when the strike hit... the shows could essentially keep their stable of talent for five weeks at half pay (and off other producers payrolls), basically keeping them tied to their shows.
Once those five weeks were up, Force Majuere kicks in and the producer either has to honor their agreement (restoring the actor to full pay for the remainder of their contract, even though they ain't working) or cut them loose.
Most actors in that situation were released from their contracts for the remainder of the season.
We talked about this at the time over in the Writer's strike thread and we thought it didn't apply to SV because the show is still in production until the end of January.
Lighthouse
12-24-2007, 11:38 PM
Okay, I just watched that ENTIRE youtube video, and other than the jokes about bacon - which were pretty funny I might add - I don't get it? :huh:
Oh wait... you edited your post? Stop confusing me! :mad: :p
I'm pretty sure GL75 was referring specifically to the point of no return for SV. Maybe he'll come back and elaborate a little on that. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about the script "issues" recently brought up over in the JL forum and addressed over at IESB today. ;)
As for me, on the WGA strike, JL and TW's potential involvement - or lack thereof - I throw my hands up. Between the funny metaphors here, doom and gloom over on the JL forum, and Emi swearing up and down everything is on track at IESB, I give up. Is it February yet?
Merry X-Mas folks, and all that holiday good cheer!
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/xmaslights.gif
Yeah, some how I failed to copy the link and accidentally pasted a youtube video I posted last night on the "I smell bacon" thread in the community thread. Still, Gaffigan is damn funny.
AgentPat
12-25-2007, 12:00 AM
Yeah, some how I failed to copy the link and accidentally pasted a youtube video I posted last night on the "I smell bacon" thread in the community thread. Still, Gaffigan is damn funny.Oh, don't sweat it. I laughed at the jokes.
Has everybody been following along with the JL ups and downs over the last few days? I haven't bothered dragging any posts over here because they're all just rumor, but it's sure been keeping my attention, I'll tell ya that. :D
llcoolj58
12-25-2007, 12:30 AM
i know this is an olg post back i just koin and i want to say i would like him to play superman if he can get a role in one.
Syncos
12-25-2007, 09:20 AM
i know this is an olg post back i just koin and i want to say i would like him to play superman if he can get a role in one.
I err... om.... Welcome.
Enjoy your stay.
AgentPat
12-29-2007, 10:49 AM
This is priceless!!!!
The inspiration for WB's upcoming JLA
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jlu/bios/kidjl/15.jpg
:D :(WW needs a training bra. :p
:lmao:
AgentPat
12-30-2007, 03:24 PM
Uh. Muh... Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Okay folks, this is really funny. Apparently, Eva Green has been approached for an as yet undisclosed role in JL. Here's the first report:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,22957006-5013560,00.html
Well, it's TRUE!! At lease, SHE says it's true. But look what else she's had to say, as quoted by Fortress80 over on DTTW:
Last night (my time) I watched on TV (TPS Star Station) an interview of Eva Green. Eva Green is a French actress now known for her international career with roles such as in "Casino Royale", the last James Bond movie.
In this interview, she talked about the fact that she had been approached for the JLA movie. According to Supermanhomepage, she even arrived in Sydney last week and auditioned for a role in Justice League of America.
The journalist asked her about her choice for the Superman role, her answer was (my translation):
Without any kind of hesitation I'll tell Tom Welling, the guy from Smallville. Do you know him? He's a great guy, a very good actor. I had an encounter with him in a restaurant this year in France. A very nice man. Do you know that he takes French lessons? He is the perfect Superman, he has everything: the stature, the charisma, the presence. I'd love to work with him!http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1695751&postcount=63
ROFLMFAO!!!
Should I post that over in the JL forum and give 'em all a heart attack? :p The general consensus right now is, Eva Green would be a wonderful addition to JL. Hee! Oh yeah, she sure would. :D :up:
COMPO
12-30-2007, 03:31 PM
are you being sarcastic pat?
Cmill216
12-30-2007, 03:32 PM
Uh. Muh... Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Okay folks, this is really funny. Apparently, Eva Green has been approached for an as yet undisclosed role in JL. Here's the first report:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,22957006-5013560,00.html
Well, it's TRUE!! At lease, SHE says it's true. But look what else she's had to say, as quoted by Fortress80 over on DTTW
:applaud :applaud :applaud
That....is....awesome.
AgentPat
12-30-2007, 04:05 PM
are you being sarcastic pat?About which part? Hah! I didn't see Casino Royal, so I have no opinion about Eva Green at all. Whether she's in or out, it doesn't matter one iota to me. Seriously. All I know is that she's popular on the JL forums, so that's good enough for me. Worst thing I think I've seen said about her is that she's too short to play WW. *shrugs* Somehow, I don't think height is a big concern with George Miller. Hammer is what... 6'5? Or is he taller? I forget. And then shrimpy DJ Catrona as Superman [shudders] is like 5'6 or something. Maybe I'm exaggerating, but he's so NOT Superman height. So who knows what's up with Green?
All *I* know is that I want to see Welling as Superman. End of story. :heart: And if Green was impressed by him - sounds like she was - then that makes me giggle like a five year old.
Now I *was* being sarcastic about giving everybody on the JL forums a heart attack. Of course everybody loves Welling, so why would Green wanting to work with him scare anybody? :p :p :p ;)
Mike22
12-30-2007, 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Eva Green
Without any kind of hesitation I'll tell Tom Welling, the guy from Smallville. Do you know him? He's a great guy, a very good actor. I had an encounter with him in a restaurant this year in France. A very nice man. Do you know that he takes French lessons? He is the perfect Superman, he has everything: the stature, the charisma, the presence. I'd love to work with him!
lol. I loved her in Casino Royale, she was great, and now I like her even more, lol.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Makes me wonder about the whole welling thing.
triplet
12-30-2007, 05:57 PM
That's interesting....
Does her mentioning Tom now, in light of her recent audition for Miller, really mean anything?
I guess we'll see, but it's always good to see Tom having fans and I like her even more for being obviously smart and seeing Tom's potential.
:up:
Docker2.0
12-30-2007, 06:56 PM
That's what I don't understand about the WB! You'd think they'd throw the bank at Tom and say to hell with Gough to get Welling to play Supes in the movie. Part of me still believes that before its all said and done Welling will wear the cape but its just the waiting process that's very annoying. :cmad:
blksuperman2
12-30-2007, 06:59 PM
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/b_0_0_m/WELLINGASSUPES-2.png
Simple yet decent :)
That's awesome. The Hair doesn't strike me a Supermanesque but heh, It still looks good.
Mike22
12-30-2007, 07:33 PM
That's interesting....
Does her mentioning Tom now, in light of her recent audition for Miller, really mean anything?
I guess we'll see, but it's always good to see Tom having fans and I like her even more for being obviously smart and seeing Tom's potential.
:up:
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Which is why I wondered if she has already auditioned yet.
If she had, and she keeps mentioning Welling, there`s a good chance there's something to it.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, I don`t know.
That's what I don't understand about the WB! You'd think they'd throw the bank at Tom and say to hell with Gough to get Welling to play Supes in the movie. Part of me still believes that before its all said and done Welling will wear the cape but its just the waiting process that's very annoying. :cmad:
I agree. At one point I had accepted that Welling was completely out, but now, I`m not so sure. I really think there`s a good chance that he might actually be in this movie.
TWistim
12-30-2007, 08:15 PM
Wow! This is exciting news. I really liked Eva Green in "Casino Royale" and I thought she was tall. She might just carry herself in that way. She's very pretty and can act so that's two points in her favor. The fact that she mentioned Tom without hesitation as her choice for Superman signifies that his name has certainly come up in some context. ;)
I'm not really sure why you guys look at this as a positive thing?? It's great that she would like to see Welling as Superman but it just proves that he isn't if she tested for a part. Wouldn't she also have a gag order if she tested and knew anything? It would be a big NO-NO to mention other cast members names. All this is to me is bad news like Adam Brody's un superhero-like skinny pathetic body.:csad:
Docker2.0
12-30-2007, 09:11 PM
Gawd you bring the entire room down with your negative energy. :o
Serene
12-30-2007, 09:11 PM
Uh. Muh... Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
ROFLMFAO!!!
Should I post that over in the JL forum and give 'em all a heart attack? :p The general consensus right now is, Eva Green would be a wonderful addition to JL. Hee! Oh yeah, she sure would. :D :up:
DO IT! :D
I thought she was pretty good in Casino Royale. But now that I know what impeccable taste she has in <super>men, she's one of my favorite actresses. ;)
About which part? Hah! I didn't see Casino Royal, so I have no opinion about Eva Green at all. Whether she's in or out, it doesn't matter one iota to me. Seriously. All I know is that she's popular on the JL forums, so that's good enough for me. Worst thing I think I've seen said about her is that she's too short to play WW.
I was thinking that maybe she was auditioning for Talia, not WW.
I'm not really sure why you guys look at this as a positive thing?? It's great that she would like to see Welling as Superman but it just proves that he isn't if she tested for a part. Wouldn't she also have a gag order if she tested and knew anything? It would be a big NO-NO to mention other cast members names.
I wondered this too, Phil. But at this point we really STILL don't know anything for sure. This is just fun stuff to pass the time until we do get official announcements.
All this is to me is bad news like Adam Brody's un superhero-like skinny pathetic body.:csad:
LMAO! But phil.. tell us what you really think. :grin:
AgentPat
12-30-2007, 09:17 PM
I'm not really sure why you guys look at this as a positive thing??Phil, for what it's worth, I'm not reading any more into her statement than what's already there. She auditioned for JL, she said she'd like to see Welling play Superman, and she'd also like to work with him. That's it. I can see how it's easy to connect the dots, but she probably didn't even land the part she auditioned for, otherwise she wouldn't have been allowed to discuss it with the press.
I just got a big kick out of what she said about Welling. At the very least, it was fine praise. :)
Phil, for what it's worth, I'm not reading any more into her statement than what's already there. She auditioned for JL, she said she'd like to see Welling play Superman, and she'd also like to work with him. That's it. I can see how it's easy to connect the dots, but she probably didn't even land the part she auditioned for, otherwise she wouldn't have been allowed to discuss it with the press.
I just got a big kick out of what she said about Welling. At the very least, it was fine praise. :)
absolutely, because of that it did make me smile. I just feel that they went ahead and casted the big roles already. I hope I'm wrong, I just past the 100 hour mark on my Welling as Superman drawing and closing in on finishing it within the next two weeks. It would be nice for him to be cast because of it but I'm really just doing it because to me he has been Superman for quite some time. There are other people who could play it and Victor Webster (never mentioned just tested for the part way back with one of the first directers) would be my first choice. He's got the look when not all tanned and has a really deep voice. I have two older sisters and at times outnumbered with the TV, he was on Days of Our Lives and I got suckered in to that show at an early age.
It really gets me down with the cast they are going with, hopefully the movie will just blow me away anyway, who knows. If anything I would have liked an older cast with the spinoffs as prequels with a single JL film. But who knows, Miller is good I'm just frustrated with the cast and the on and off Welling as Superman. They should have gone all out to get him because it makes it more of an exciting marketing campaign to have the same actor who grew up as Superman through his teenage years become Superman.
:huh:
AgentPat
12-30-2007, 10:27 PM
...I just past the 100 hour mark on my Welling as Superman drawing and closing in on finishing it within the next two weeks.Holy.... wow! 100 hours? Jeeze. Now THAT's dedication. :up:
It really gets me down with the cast they are going with, hopefully the movie will just blow me away anyway, who knows.Well, lets get the darn thing confirmed first. No sense in stressing over it until that point, y'know? Besides, there's something very fishy about this project, and it aint just Aquaman. :p
They should have gone all out to get himHee! If we're to believe Sanchez, they did. In spades. But no sense in rehashing that now. Lets just wait and see. The film is either going to happen or it won't, and if it *does* happen, we're gonna find out about it - officially - very, VERY soon. Hang tight, Phil. :)
because it makes it more of an exciting marketing campaign to have the same actor who grew up as Superman through his teenage years become Superman.Who's got the "you're preaching to the choir" smiley? :confused: ;) :D
Mike22
12-30-2007, 11:55 PM
absolutely, because of that it did make me smile. I just feel that they went ahead and casted the big roles already. I hope I'm wrong,
Hi buddy, it`s been a while now.
Her comments about Welling put a big smile on my face too.
I just past the 100 hour mark on my Welling as Superman drawing and closing in on finishing it within the next two weeks.
Looking forward to that one Phil, one of your best.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif
It really gets me down with the cast they are going with, hopefully the movie will just blow me away anyway, who knows. If anything I would have liked an older cast with the spinoffs as prequels with a single JL film. But who knows, Miller is good I'm just frustrated with the cast and the on and off Welling as Superman. They should have gone all out to get him because it makes it more of an exciting marketing campaign to have the same actor who grew up as Superman through his teenage years become Superman.
:huh:
The reason why I`ve sort of regained my optimism about Welling being in this movie is because his schedule just opened up. And if `m not to mistaken, that was one of the main reasons why he couldn`t do it.
From what I understand, no matter what happens with the strike, smallville isn`t gonna resume filming for this season.
WB have always had Welling in mind for this movie, I find it highly improbable that they`d just give up on him when they`re very aware of the fact that the writers strike might just let them have Welling for this movie. My best guess would be that they`ve gone ahead with the casting search for superman as a plan b, in case plan A fails, BUT haven`t signed him on ( if they`ve found him yet that is ). Because they`re were still hoping that the writers strike would work in their favor, Which it did.
Welling is the WB`s first choice as superman for JLA, now that he`s free to do it, I don`t see why they wont go ahead and resume the negotiations.
And it explains why the official confirmation for the cast has been so long, because they, along with us, were hoping Wellings schedule would open up.
Now, I COULD be wrong, I just really really hope that I`m not.
jayskate
12-31-2007, 09:49 AM
I really like Eva Green too , I thought she was good in The Dreamers and Casino Royale , I could see her doing a great Talia. I think its cool that she mentioned that Tom would be her choice .
And of course I would so love it , that if the on going writers strike has indeed enabled Warners to get their 'man' so to speak . :yay: .
Anyways we shall hopefully find out soon .
avidreader
12-31-2007, 11:18 AM
Uh. Muh... Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Okay folks, this is really funny. Apparently, Eva Green has been approached for an as yet undisclosed role in JL. Here's the first report:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,22957006-5013560,00.html
Well, it's TRUE!! At lease, SHE says it's true. But look what else she's had to say, as quoted by Fortress80 over on DTTW:
ROFLMFAO!!!
Should I post that over in the JL forum and give 'em all a heart attack? :p The general consensus right now is, Eva Green would be a wonderful addition to JL. Hee! Oh yeah, she sure would. :D :up:
I loved her in Casino Royale, and now I love her even more, she's made it to my BFF list. :D
Go Eva!!
Prison Mike
12-31-2007, 11:52 AM
Green would be an awesome Talia. Better than Palmer, IMO.
TWistim
12-31-2007, 12:29 PM
The reason why I`ve sort of regained my optimism about Welling being in this movie is because his schedule just opened up. And if `m not to mistaken, that was one of the main reasons why he couldn`t do it.
From what I understand, no matter what happens with the strike, smallville isn`t gonna resume filming for this season.
WB have always had Welling in mind for this movie, I find it highly improbable that they`d just give up on him when they`re very aware of the fact that the writers strike might just let them have Welling for this movie. My best guess would be that they`ve gone ahead with the casting search for superman as a plan b, in case plan A fails, BUT haven`t signed him on ( if they`ve found him yet that is ). Because they`re were still hoping that the writers strike would work in their favor, Which it did.
Welling is the WB`s first choice as superman for JLA, now that he`s free to do it, I don`t see why they wont go ahead and resume the negotiations.
And it explains why the official confirmation for the cast has been so long, because they, along with us, were hoping Wellings schedule would open up.
Now, I COULD be wrong, I just really really hope that I`m not.
This makes the most sense to me out of all the unexplainable and frustrating ups and downs we've seen re: JLA and it gives me "new" hope, too. :yay:
I guess I won't give up complete hope until they officially announce someone else has been cast as Superman. Until then, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
zerohour films
12-31-2007, 04:53 PM
Just got back in from vacation and read the statement from Green about her Superman choice. That is great, really suprised to hear her say that.
*keeping fingers crossed it actually happens*
Now I need to go catch up on what else I have missed while away..hope everyone had a good Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, etc.
EDIT: Also would love to see her as Talia.
AgentPat
12-31-2007, 05:00 PM
Well... tomorrow's the day. Any takers on Warner's formally announcing JL tomorrow or January 2nd?
Keep this in mind:
Dan Lin exit's his post as senior VP of production for Warner Bros. and segues to Lin Pictures on Jan. 1, the same date that his boss, Jeff Robinov, segues into the post of president of Warner Bros. Pictures Group.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977519
Will the occasion be filled with pomp and circumstance, or will it pass by unnoticed with little fanfare? Time will tell. ;)
Well... tomorrow's the day. Any takers on Warner's formally announcing JL tomorrow or January 2nd?
Keep this in mind:
Dan Lin exit's his post as senior VP of production for Warner Bros. and segues to Lin Pictures on Jan. 1, the same date that his boss, Jeff Robinov, segues into the post of president of Warner Bros. Pictures Group.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977519
Will the occasion be filled with pomp and circumstance, or will it pass by unnoticed with little fanfare? Time will tell. ;)
Hmmmm... Lin will probably talk about that it was his dream to have this job with the WB, and just give some updates with his current projects. Willing to bet we won't hear any casting news from him....
lol, good for Eva Green for noticing that Welling looks/acts like a Superman... :up:
atleast she knowledge that she auditioned for a role in JLA, too bad by saying that tends to lean that she didn't get it.... :down:
That's awesome. The Hair doesn't strike me a Supermanesque but heh, It still looks good.
Thanks alot, the hair's actually unaltered by me, it was a picture of him at some award show & I left it like that practically slicked back because I think a side shade look, looks kinda outdated & would be best served for the Clark Kent character alone :super:
dark_b
01-01-2008, 02:03 PM
if they wont film any SV episodes this year then TW could be superman in JL
Mike22
01-01-2008, 03:25 PM
if they wont film any SV episodes this year then TW could be superman in JL
That's what I`ve been saying.
AgentPat
01-02-2008, 07:50 PM
Wait! :eek:
So did I miss this somewhere? 'Cause it's really hard to believe nobody has posted it yet? :confused:
Variety
12/27/07
By Anne Thompson
Dark Knight's Nolan and DC Comics Pics
Last weekend, I ran into youthful Dark Knight director Chris Nolan at a Christmas party in the Hollywood Hills. He was enthused about shooting entire sections of the movie in IMAX (http://weblogs.variety.com/thompsononhollywood/2007/11/dark-knight-ima.html)--entirely his idea. It's now possible to show the movie on some 150 IMAX screens that aren't just at science museums or in Las Vegas. He shot using IMAX cameras, which are four to five times heavier than 35 mm cameras--the first Hollywood film to do so. The opening first six minutes are being shown in front of I Am Legend in special IMAX locations. (Here's one ecstatic fan review (http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/12/12/you-must-watch-the-dark-knights-imax-short-film-on-i-am-legend/).)
While the trailer (http://weblogs.variety.com/thompsononhollywood/2007/12/trailer-watch-t.html) makes the movie look pixel-big, the pic is character-driven PG, Nolan said. That way The Joker has to be really scary without resorting to real violence. The trailer is focused on creepy Heath Ledger as The Joker (played in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman by Jack Nicholson in a broadly comedic interpretation), not on district attorney Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart), who is also a key player in the movie. There are plenty of intimate scenes of people talking, as well as a few big-scale set pieces.
(This week while cruising the channels we happened upon Joel Schumacher's ridiculously over-wrought penultimate 1995 Batman Forever, starring Val Kilmer, Chris O'Donnell sporting an earring as Robin, Nicole Kidman as a sexy therapist, a hyped-up Jim Carrey as The Riddler, and Tommy Lee Jones in piles of makeup as Two-Face. Give us Christian Bale and Nolan, please!)
Speaking of DC Comics pics, it is highly unlikely that Bryan Singer will return to shoot the next Superman movie. (The director is finishing up Tom Cruise's Nazi film Valkyrie, and prepping The Mayor of Castro Street). The next Superman we will see on the big screen will not be Brandon Routh, but a younger Superman among a cast of youthful superheroes in The Justice League. That movie will likely not be shot, however, until after the WGA strike is resolved. Warners is so happy with Dark Knight that their fondest hope is that Nolan will return to do another Batman.
http://weblogs.variety.com/thompsononhollywood/2007/12/notes-chris-nol.html:dry:
zerohour films
01-02-2008, 08:00 PM
Wait! :eek:
So did I miss this somewhere? 'Cause it's really hard to believe nobody has posted it yet? :confused:
:dry:
It is surprising that hasn't made the rounds yet, but I guess the Holidays slowed people down.
One question, is that really anything new? Hasn't Variety's stance on JL all along been that it wasn't going forward?
AgentPat
01-02-2008, 08:08 PM
It is surprising that hasn't made the rounds yet, but I guess the Holidays slowed people down.
One question, is that really anything new? Hasn't Variety's stance on JL all along been that it wasn't going forward?Well yeah, I guess, but that was like two months ago. There's been very little in the way of "legitimate" news on the subject since then - and by legitimate, I mean something with a little more clout than anonymous posters on I-net message boards or news entries logged on "My Sister's Best Friend's Blog," y'know? LOL
Mig-El
01-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Wait! :eek:
So did I miss this somewhere? 'Cause it's really hard to believe nobody has posted it yet? :confused:
:dry:
Are you sure you're reading it right? I think they're talking about the next Superman movie not being shot until the strike is over. It's not about JLA.
AgentPat
01-02-2008, 08:11 PM
Are you sure you're reading it right? I think they're talking about the next Superman movie not being shot until the strike is over. It's not about JLA.Nope, I read it right:
...The next Superman we will see on the big screen will not be Brandon Routh, but a younger Superman among a cast of youthful superheroes in The Justice League. That movie will likely not be shot, however, until after the WGA strike is resolved...
Mig-El
01-02-2008, 08:17 PM
Nope, I read it right:
...The next Superman we will see on the big screen will not be Brandon Routh, but a younger Superman among a cast of youthful superheroes in The Justice League. That movie will likely not be shot, however, until after the WGA strike is resolved...
The paragraph seems to be all about the next Superman film. The preceding sentence was about Superman actor being in the next Superman film after JLA. I don't know; I'm not an english major. You might be right.
I just want a JLA movie darn it <maybe that blinding my english judgment> ... with Tom of course. ;)
AgentPat
01-02-2008, 08:27 PM
The paragraph seems to be all about the next Superman film. The preceding sentence was about Superman actor being in the next Superman film after JLA. I don't know; I'm not an english major. You might be right.
I just want a JLA movie darn it <maybe that blinding my english judgment> ... with Tom of course. ;)The brunt of the article was about Nolan's Batman sequel. The last paragraph segues into other DC films. And while Thompson doesn't rule out an SR sequel, she points out the next Superman to be seen on the big screen won't be Routh but whomever is cast in Justice League. She then goes onto say that that film (JL) probably won't go into production until after the WGA strike is over. That's how I interpreted the article.
Zerohour pointed out it's really not a new stance for Variety. I've just been hoping things would change. And not fer nuthin', but if there was going to be an official announcement, we REALLY should have heard about it by now. :(
Seriously folks, I think this project died on the vine the day the writers went on strike. Could Warners work around that? Yeah, I guess. Do they want to risk it though? I seriously doubt it. It's WAY too much money to just say, "ah hell, lets just wing it."
Lighthouse
01-02-2008, 08:29 PM
I won't be surprised if this news is true. This month should be the moment of truth though, since they are supposed to start shooting in February.
Mig-El
01-02-2008, 08:33 PM
The brunt of the article was about Nolan's Batman sequel. The last paragraph segues into other DC films. And while Thompson doesn't rule out an SR sequel, she points out the next Superman to be seen on the big screen won't be Routh but whomever is cast in Justice League. She then goes onto say that that film (JL) probably won't go into production until after the WGA strike is over. That's how I interpreted the article.
Zerohour pointed out it's really not a new stance for Variety. I've just been hoping things would change. And not fer nuthin', but if there was going to be an official announcement, we REALLY should have heard about it by now. :(
Seriously folks, I think this project died on the vine the day the writers went on strike. Could Warners work around that? Yeah, I guess. Do they want to risk it though? I seriously doubt it. It's WAY too much money to just say, "ah hell, lets just wing it."
You're right Pat. I read it wrong. Instead of "that", I read "the". :) I still hoping JLA get made. Miller said they were on schedule. Why would there be a set schedule when no one even know when the strike will end.
AgentPat
01-02-2008, 08:44 PM
I won't be surprised if this news is true. This month should be the moment of truth though, since they are supposed to start shooting in February.Yup. We should know one way or another very soon.
...Miller said they were on schedule. Why would there be a set schedule when no one even know when the strike will end.I think it's like anything else: you proceed with the hope it will end in time. If it ends tomorrow, or next week, or the beginning of next month, they HAVE to be ready to start. So they get all their ducks in a row - which is a MAJOR endeavor - and then they hope and pray the strike ends before principal is set to start. Unlike episodes of SV post ep 15, JL's script is already written. So I guess it's just a waiting game with the latter.
zerohour films
01-02-2008, 08:50 PM
Honestly I think that article is just rehashing what's been said/rumored previously.
I can't help but think the movie is moving forward considering Miller has said so and we seem to get pretty steady crew updates (like the recent article referring to an art designer). --for what any of that is worth I guess--
I can't see there not being an announcment VERY soon if it is indeed happening--at least when they originally said it was.
Now here's to hoping that announcement will also mention a certain someone in the red,blue and yellows :cwink:
Mike22
01-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Here`s my problem with this article:
We have the actual director saying that JL is on schedule and wont be delayed by the strike, and we have three of the main cast in Australia most likely preparing for their parts.
And on the other hand we have Variety that writes its articles based on what 'sources' say.
So I`m more inclined to believe Miller than Variety at this point.
And them telling us that Singer most likely wont be back isn`t anything new, we`ve all suspected this for a while now.
Serene
01-02-2008, 09:24 PM
Honestly I think that article is just rehashing what's been said/rumored previously.
I can't help but think the movie is moving forward considering Miller has said so and we seem to get pretty steady crew updates (like the recent article referring to an art designer). --for what any of that is worth I guess--
I can't see there not being an announcment VERY soon if it is indeed happening--at least when they originally said it was.
Now here's to hoping that announcement will also mention a certain someone in the red,blue and yellows :cwink:
Well I can see where Miller would continue to prep and get everything set in place, even if he can't start shooting until the strike ends. Once it does, he probably plans on hitting the ground running. I don't make films, but I can imagine that there's a buttload of stuff that needs to be done in terms of planning, designing, building, etc. before you actually start shooting anything.
And look how nice it is that he's got a little more time to consider his casting choices. :D
zerohour films
01-02-2008, 11:37 PM
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zerohour films
01-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Well I can see where Miller would continue to prep and get everything set in place, even if he can't start shooting until the strike ends. Once it does, he probably plans on hitting the ground running. I don't make films, but I can imagine that there's a buttload of stuff that needs to be done in terms of planning, designing, building, etc. before you actually start shooting anything.
And look how nice it is that he's got a little more time to consider his casting choices. :D
Yes and let's hope he uses that time wisely and doesn't want to "go his own way"
And agreed about them getting things in place as far as planning, etc etc.
Dark_Lord
01-03-2008, 04:41 AM
Wait! :eek:
So did I miss this somewhere? 'Cause it's really hard to believe nobody has posted it yet? :confused:
:dry:
Singer won't be making The Mayor of Castro Street. Also, the way I read the article, it doesn't say that the JLA Superman will be in a new Superman movie, it says that the next time we see Superman, on the big screen, it will be in Justice League.
The Incredible Hulk
01-03-2008, 09:44 AM
Wait! :eek:
So did I miss this somewhere? 'Cause it's really hard to believe nobody has posted it yet? :confused:
:dry:
Seems like it's just Thompson's blog which would indicate that's her opinion and not some official Variety report. Not that I completely diagree mind you...
if 3 of the actors on that list are already there then why are we still acting like the rest of the list isn't true:huh:
As much as I want it Wellings not in the JL, Superman is the little kid on the list.
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 10:41 AM
Here`s my problem with this article:
We have the actual director saying that JL is on schedule and wont be delayed by the strike, and we have three of the main cast in Australia most likely preparing for their parts.
And on the other hand we have Variety that writes its articles based on what 'sources' say.I understand that, but we don't know who their sources are. In the case of this particular article, the author got her information about TDK from Nolan himself. Directors will always say their films are on schedule. It's part of the game. Wasn't Burton's Superman film "on schedule" at one point? Dude even got paid to do it LOL. Just sayin'.
So I`m more inclined to believe Miller than Variety at this point.I'm more of the mind to weigh what I hear from all sources. You kind of have to step back and look at the big picture every now and then. Take Sanchez, for example. At one point, he was gung ho with all of his JL news but hasn't said boo about it in two months. No news about the supposed three (or more?) cast members currently in Oz, nothing about the script (which was big news at one point), and nothing about any crew people (which would have to be ramping up to monstrous proportions by now.)
Something is re-heeely fishy about this production, and I think it all stems back to the WGA strike. BUT! As I keep saying, we'll know soon enough. Principal is supposedly set to start on February 11th. For the mathematically challenged, that's five weeks from this Monday. :wow:
And them telling us that Singer most likely wont be back isn't anything new, we've all suspected this for a while now.Yes, that's a given. LOL
Well I can see where Miller would continue to prep and get everything set in place, even if he can't start shooting until the strike ends. Once it does, he probably plans on hitting the ground running.That would be my plan, ahuh.
I don't make films, but I can imagine that there's a buttload of stuff that needs to be done in terms of planning, designing, building, etc. before you actually start shooting anything.Quite! He's already had a few devastating set-backs, not the least of which was the death of his costume designer.
And look how nice it is that he's got a little more time to consider his casting choices. :DTrue. But casts have been known to change at the last minute, sometimes even *after* the film has started shooting. Peter Jackson is particularly notorious for that - Viggo Mortensen for Stuart Townsend in LOTRs, Mark Wahlberg for Ryan Gosling in The Lovely Bones. But for a film like JL, where exceptional physiques and perfectly-fitted costumes are of utmost importance, that's a little harder. Not impossible, but I think it's easier said than done.
...Also, the way I read the article, it doesn't say that the JLA Superman will be in a new Superman movie, it says that the next time we see Superman, on the big screen, it will be in Justice League.What made you think people thought otherwise? :huh:
Pat it's pretty obvious with the casting of Brody that "exeptional physiques" is not all that important. This director is putting out his own vision AGAIN.
Sorry for the depressing atitude but I don't think I can handle the "announcemnt will be soon" anymore (since Aug.), it's making me want to flip out.
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 11:03 AM
Pat it's pretty obvious with the casting of Brody that "exceptional physiques" is not all that importantMuahahahaha!!! Okay, you have a point there, Phil! :D :up:
Sorry for the depressing attitude but I don't think I can handle the "announcement will be soon" anymore (since Aug.), it's making me want to flip out.Well, in this case, since production is supposed to begin in February, it's do or die. They can't delay the announcement much longer. Either the film is happening, or it's not.
A little over five weeks and counting, folks. ;)
Muahahahaha!!! Okay, you have a point there, Phil! :D :up:
Well, in this case, since production is supposed to begin in February, it's do or die. They can't delay the announcement much longer. Either the film is happening, or it's not.
A little over five weeks and counting, folks. ;)
well, I'm feeling that since that list has been out there by more than one source with some in Sidney, it's a done deal. Can you imagine if Wellings name was on that list? All of the sudden that list would be "legit" lol
It reminds me of when there was a bad review for SR before it came out the review would be fake according to Sr Fans, lol
Anyway this cold weather sucks as*! My key won't even turn in my truck because it's all frozen and I called AAA 3 hours ago!!!!:csad:
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 11:48 AM
well, I'm feeling that since that list has been out there by more than one source with some in Sidney, it's a done deal. Can you imagine if Wellings name was on that list? All of the sudden that list would be "legit" lol
It reminds me of when there was a bad review for SR before it came out the review would be fake according to Sr Fans, lolI'm just keeping an open mind and taking everything in. There's a LOT of conflicting reports out there but very little in the way of "official" announcements from Warners. I realize waiting till the last minute saves on pre-production costs, but if the film is really happening - and I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that - then we'll know soon.
Anyway this cold weather sucks as*! My key won't even turn in my truck because it's all frozen and I called AAA 3 hours ago!!!!:csad:Oh yeah! You guys got hit with two feet the other day, didn't yas? Ouch. It was 4F here this morning. That's cold. LOL
Mike22
01-03-2008, 11:54 AM
I understand that, but we don't know who their sources are. In the case of this particular article, the author got her information about TDK from Nolan himself. Directors will always say their films are on schedule. It's part of the game. Wasn't Burton's Superman film "on schedule" at one point? Dude even got paid to do it LOL. Just sayin'.
I dunno Pat, If the studio are aware that this project may not be happening until the strike is over, I just don`t get the point of them having the director say that it`s still on track, especially when they haven`t even officially announced yet.
I'm more of the mind to weigh what I hear from all sources. You kind of have to step back and look at the big picture every now and then. Take Sanchez, for example. At one point, he was gung ho with all of his JL news but hasn't said boo about it in two months. No news about the supposed three (or more?) cast members currently in Oz, nothing about the script (which was big news at one point), and nothing about any crew people (which would have to be ramping up to monstrous proportions by now.)
Believe me Pat, even though I want this movie to happen really badly and I want Welling to be superman even more, I`m still quite objective about it.
As for Sanchez, he`s turned out to be quite unreliable it seems. Like you said, first he was all over the place with the JL news, and when things didn`t go his way, he just backed out and hasn`t even posted a word int he JL thread over at IESB. It would be so much better if he admitted that things didn`t go his way. I know anything can happen in Hollywood, so I don`t really blame him that things didn`t turn out the way he once reported, but what I seriously dislike about him is that he doesn`t even address those the members of his site about JL.
Something is re-heeely fishy about this production, and I think it all stems back to the WGA strike. BUT! As I keep saying, we'll know soon enough. Principal is supposedly set to start on February 11th. For the mathematically challenged, that's five weeks from this Monday. :wow:
OOOOO five more weeks and we`ll know, it seems more like 5 years though.
Yes, that's a given. LOL
lol. As if there was really any doubt.
I'm just keeping an open mind and taking everything in. There's a LOT of conflicting reports out there but very little in the way of "official" announcements from Warners. I realize waiting till the last minute saves on pre-production costs, but if the film is really happening - and I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that - then we'll know soon.
Oh yeah! You guys got hit with two feet the other day, didn't yas? Ouch. It was 4F here this morning. That's cold. LOL
AAA just came and couldn't fix it, it was way below 0 here! :bh:
I know theres a lot of conflicting reports but 3 people on that list are in Sidney. That to me is enough to say that list was real. I wish it wasn't but when has the WB ever made a Superhero good enough to blow people away like Spidy did? They work against themselves every time and try to reinvent the wheel. They ALWAYS do the opposite of what would be the right thing to do with these types of action heros.
Mike22
01-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Pat it's pretty obvious with the casting of Brody that "exeptional physiques" is not all that important. This director is putting out his own vision AGAIN.
Sorry for the depressing atitude but I don't think I can handle the "announcemnt will be soon" anymore (since Aug.), it's making me want to flip out.
Look buddy, you KNOW better than anyone how I feel superheroes should look, but it`s a bit soon to say anything about Brodys Physical appearance. Suuuure he`s skinny NOW, but he can get bigger.
I think, you, just like me, have been turned into an eternal scepting about superhero actors looking their part physically, because of the way Rouths crappy body type looked like.
But look at it this way, Phil, Flash isn`t supposed to be a huge fella, he just has to have a runners body.
Anyway, I saw one of his movies, (Grind) and damn, he really was good. He has great comic timing and I definitely see flash in him. I would have of course preferred Reynolds (obviously) but Brody isn`t a bad choice.
well, I'm feeling that since that list has been out there by more than one source with some in Sidney, it's a done deal. Can you imagine if Wellings name was on that list? All of the sudden that list would be "legit" lol
It reminds me of when there was a bad review for SR before it came out the review would be fake according to Sr Fans, lol
Anyway this cold weather sucks as*! My key won't even turn in my truck because it's all frozen and I called AAA 3 hours ago!!!!:csad:
Tell me about it, My key wont even turn to ge the door open, the car however started up as it if was brand new when I managed to open if after 2 hours, lol. I couldn`t even get the door to my car to open because it was frikking frozen. I looked like a fool pushing and pulling the door trying to get it to open up. The whole car was starting to sway back and fourth, it looked like I was trying to break in my own car. If the neighbours didn`t recognise me, they would have called the cops.
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 12:14 PM
I dunno Pat, If the studio are aware that this project may not be happening until the strike is over, I just don't get the point of them having the director say that it's still on track, especially when they haven't even officially announced yet.When Miller comments about JL, he isn't speaking *for* Warners. IOW, they're not telling him what to say. I'm sure they tell him what he *can't* say, but I think when he discusses the film publicly with people, he's just being a proud director. It's a big thing that he's involved with.
As for Sanchez, he's turned out to be quite unreliable it seems. Like you said, first he was all over the place with the JL news, and when things didn't go his way, he just backed out and hasn't even posted a word in the JL thread over at IESB. It would be so much better if he admitted that things didn't go his way. I know anything can happen in Hollywood, so I don't really blame him that things didn't turn out the way he once reported, but what I seriously dislike about him is that he doesn't even address those the members of his site about JL.Some of the people on Sanchez's blog are the most ungrateful, rude posters I've ever seen. I would have banned LatinoHeat months ago. And the LadyMarmalade troll goes w/o saying, though I haven't seen him around recently. People seem to think that since Sanchez has a message board, he owes them a visit every now and then. Honestly, I don't think Sanchez has that kind of time. The boards are there for people to chat, not for Sanchez to bless them with his presence. That's just my humble opinion now. If he shows up and says hi, great. But I don't think people should *expect* it, and they're rude for saying the things they do when he doesn't. Again, JMHO.
OOOOO five more weeks and we'll know, it seems more like 5 years though.Hah! Yeah, aint it the truth. But that's okay. We've waited this long; what's another five weeks, right?
lol. As if there was really any doubt.Not in my mind. Other's mileage may vary, however. ;)
And LOL@Antonello Blueberry dragging Thompson's article to Comics 2 Film:
http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30598
I saw him in this thread last night immediately after I posted the Thompson article. Was waiting to see him post a response, but I guess he had more important places to go with the info. :o
Mike22
01-03-2008, 12:27 PM
When Miller comments about JL, he isn't speaking *for* Warners. IOW, they're not telling him what to say. I'm sure they tell him what he *can't* say, but I think when he discusses the film publicly with people, he's just being a proud director. It's a big thing that he's involved with.
Yeah, I suppose.
Some of the people on Sanchez's blog are the most ungrateful, rude posters I've ever seen. I would have banned LatinoHeat months ago. And the LadyMarmalade troll goes w/o saying, though I haven't seen him around recently. People seem to think that since Sanchez has a message board, he owes them a visit every now and then. Honestly, I don't think Sanchez has that kind of time. The boards are there for people to chat, not for Sanchez to bless them with his presence. That's just my humble opinion now. If he shows up and says hi, great. But I don't think people should *expect* it, and they're rude for saying the things they do when he doesn't. Again, JMHO.Yeah, I really agree, even though i don`t love how Sanchez has been acting lately,the lack of response and all, some of those posters are a bunch of idiots. If that place actually had a mod, they would have been banned now. I know there`s a mod there, but that guy is basically non existent.
Hah! Yeah, aint it the truth. But that's okay. We've waited this long; what's another five weeks, right? Absolutely.
Not in my mind. Other's mileage may vary, however. ;)
And LOL@Antonello Blueberry dragging Thompson's article to Comics 2 Film:
http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30598
I saw him in this thread last night immediately after I posted the Thompson article. Was waiting to see him post a response, but I guess he had more important places to go with the info. :o
You know, it looks suspiciously a lot like this movie might be delayed. And honestly, as long as Welling is superman, I`d be willing to wait another year or so for the filming to begin. Hell, I`ve waited for half my life for a good superman movie, I might as well wait some more.
Antonello Blueberry
01-03-2008, 12:41 PM
And LOL@Antonello Blueberry dragging Thompson's article to Comics 2 Film:
http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=30598
I saw him in this thread last night immediately after I posted the Thompson article. Was waiting to see him post a response, but I guess he had more important places to go with the info. :o
I have a wait and see approach, but I have strong doubts on what's written in the article.
Look buddy, you KNOW better than anyone how I feel superheroes should look, but it`s a bit soon to say anything about Brodys Physical appearance. Suuuure he`s skinny NOW, but he can get bigger.
I think, you, just like me, have been turned into an eternal scepting about superhero actors looking their part physically, because of the way Rouths crappy body type looked like.
But look at it this way, Phil, Flash isn`t supposed to be a huge fella, he just has to have a runners body.
Anyway, I saw one of his movies, (Grind) and damn, he really was good. He has great comic timing and I definitely see flash in him. I would have of course preferred Reynolds (obviously) but Brody isn`t a bad choice.
Tell me about it, My key wont even turn to ge the door open, the car however started up as it if was brand new when I managed to open if after 2 hours, lol. I couldn`t even get the door to my car to open because it was frikking frozen. I looked like a fool pushing and pulling the door trying to get it to open up. The whole car was starting to sway back and fourth, it looked like I was trying to break in my own car. If the neighbours didn`t recognise me, they would have called the cops.
C'mon mike too soon? Brody has the body of a pencil and they are suppose to start filming next month, how the hell is he going to get bigger. The Flash and every other Superhero have always had good bodys. Where is it wriiten that the flash has a runners body, it's never shown that? And I've seen him act too, nothing at all to write home about, if the teenyboppers didn't like him he would be nowhere.
:huh:
Mike22
01-03-2008, 01:42 PM
C'mon mike too soon? Brody has the body of a pencil and they are suppose to start filming next month, how the hell is he going to get bigger. The Flash and every other Superhero have always had good bodys. Where is it wriiten that the flash has a runners body, it's never shown that? And I've seen him act too, nothing at all to write home about, if the teenyboppers didn't like him he would be nowhere.
:huh:
What I meant was that he`s been in Australia for a while now, I`m pretty sure they`ve had him hit the weights like crazy. And also, I`m pretty sure that they`re gonna use padding for the actors in this movie.
And while the flash in the comics may look big a ripped, that`s mainly for the sake of making the character looking good. In a live movie, he is inevitgably gonna look smaller because he needs to look like flexible, and not as big as the other guys. Superman HAS to look big and ripped, the flash just has to looke well built and ripped and look like he runs a lot.
And the way things are looking, they may just have all the time in the world to work out because JL looks to have been delayed a bit.
Hey Phil, I was just thinking, can you imagine what brody would look like when standing next to Welling? LOL:woot:
What I meant was that he`s been in Australia for a while now, I`m pretty sure they`ve had him hit the weights like crazy. And also, I`m pretty sure that they`re gonna use padding for the actors in this movie.
And while the flash in the comics may look big a ripped, that`s mainly for the sake of making the character looking good. In a live movie, he is inevitgably gonna look smaller because he needs to look like flexible, and not as big as the other guys. Superman HAS to look big and ripped, the flash just has to looke well built and ripped and look like he runs a lot.
And the way things are looking, they may just have all the time in the world to work out because JL looks to have been delayed a bit.
Hey Phil, I was just thinking, can you imagine what brody would look like when standing next to Welling? LOL:woot:
I saw a photo of him recently at the hotel in Sidney with some other dude. He still looks like he has to run around in the shower just to get wet!
Did you see bluetights with this news, our friends are in denial, LOL
Mike22
01-03-2008, 02:16 PM
I saw a photo of him recently at the hotel in Sidney with some other dude. He still looks like he has to run around in the shower just to get wet!
Did you see bluetights with this news, our friends are in denial, LOL
LOL. Lets reserve out judgement until we see the promo shots. If he looks crappy, then we`ll complain, lol.
As for our fellow bluetights members a few of them are in complete and utter denial, just like they always have been.
Syncos
01-03-2008, 02:22 PM
Can you imagine what brody would look like when standing next to Welling? LOL:woot:
Something like this? :woot:
http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/gallery/albums/files/1/5/1/Crush_220.jpg
From Devoted.
Antonello Blueberry
01-03-2008, 04:26 PM
More or less what Wally West looks next to Superman.
Prison Mike
01-03-2008, 05:42 PM
Brody is slouching. He's probably taller when standing straight.
Docker2.0
01-03-2008, 06:02 PM
The camera is also at a angle to make him and "Pete" look taller as well. Do you know how much bigger Welling is to everyone else on the set?! :eek:
Whiteflag
01-03-2008, 06:23 PM
The camera is also at a angle to make him and "Pete" look taller as well. Do you know how much bigger Welling is to everyone else on the set?! :eek:
Brody is listed as being 5'11. Tom is at least 6'3.
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 06:36 PM
Brody is slouching. He's probably taller when standing straight.LOL! And Welling is wearing sandals. :p
Y'know, for a piece of news that was "nothing," it sure has made the rounds. Even the Hype posted it on their main page. C'mon! Nobody looks for that stuff? Jeeze. I just stumbled on it reading articles on Variety. That's too damn funny.
Check this out:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=292686
Over a hundred posts already. As Hulk said, talk about burying the lead. :rolleyes: :D
Mike22
01-03-2008, 06:49 PM
LOL! And Welling is wearing sandals. :p
Y'know, for a piece of news that was "nothing," it sure has made the rounds. Even the Hype posted it on their main page. C'mon! Nobody looks for that stuff? Jeeze. I just stumbled on it reading articles on Variety. That's too damn funny.
Check this out:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=292686
Over a hundred posts already. As Hulk said, talk about burying the lead. :rolleyes: :D
You should check the one over at Bluetights, 365 posts and there have been up to 30 people viewing it. And is still very active.
They`re starting to get cold feet now LOL.
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 06:59 PM
You should check the one over at Bluetights, 365 posts and there have been up to 30 people viewing it. And is still very active.
They`re starting to get cold feet now LOL.Hah! What's the URL? This I gotta see. :D
Antonello Blueberry
01-03-2008, 07:00 PM
LOL! And Welling is wearing sandals. :p
Y'know, for a piece of news that was "nothing," it sure has made the rounds. Even the Hype posted it on their main page. C'mon! Nobody looks for that stuff? Jeeze. I just stumbled on it reading articles on Variety. That's too damn funny.
At least, it will hopefully push WB to make an official announcement.
Did you read the latest Emi post on the IESB boards? She says they're still working for a Feb 11th start date.
Serene
01-03-2008, 07:07 PM
You should check the one over at Bluetights, 365 posts and there have been up to 30 people viewing it. And is still very active.
They`re starting to get cold feet now LOL.
It's truly AMAZING how starved for any official information people are.
Anyone think there's any chance that the next Superman will also be in a Batman/Superman movie directed by Nolan? That's what I'd like to see. Isn't one of the 3 films that Nolan is slated to do?
Just imagine the possibility. :wow:
Docker2.0
01-03-2008, 07:21 PM
Brody is listed as being 5'11. Tom is at least 6'3.
Ok......................what's your point? Welling is still a lot bigger than him. :huh:
Mike22
01-03-2008, 07:23 PM
Hah! What's the URL? This I gotta see. :D
Here ya go:yay: it`s a hoot. lol
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=26133
Mike22
01-03-2008, 07:25 PM
It's truly AMAZING how starved for any official information people are.
Anyone think there's any chance that the next Superman will also be in a Batman/Superman movie directed by Nolan? That's what I'd like to see. Isn't one of the 3 films that Nolan is slated to do?
Just imagine the possibility. :wow:
Bluetights is and always has been a pro superman returns site. I don`t find it unusual at all that they`d dismiss this.
Anyway, I would love now more than ever if Tom was cast as superman. I`d get the superman I want in this movie and at the same time piss a whole bunch of people off.lol
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 07:36 PM
At least, it will hopefully push WB to make an official announcement.
Did you read the latest Emi post on the IESB boards? She says they're still working for a Feb 11th start date.Yeah, I saw her posts. I've got their boards set to send me goodies when somebody posts. I'd also like to see LatinoHeat get hit by a bus, but that's neither here nor there. :O
I've spoken to Emily a few times on the QT. She's a very nice person. Then again, we agree on a few related opinions, so I suppose it's only natural we'd "get along." LOL ;)
It's truly AMAZING how starved for any official information people are.A few sites doing "year's best" lists rated JL rumors as being high on the most talked about subjects. Obviously, people... err... fanboys... are clamoring for the film. Good or bad, Warners has lightning in a bottle. They just need to make it happen.
Anyone think there's any chance that the next Superman will also be in a Batman/Superman movie directed by Nolan? That's what I'd like to see. Isn't one of the 3 films that Nolan is slated to do?
Just imagine the possibility.Ooo.... don't get me started. That would be awesome, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. Nolan seems to be more into the "realistic" approach. I'm not sure if aliens would fit into his world, but ya never know.
And well.. y'know... I give a boatload to see Bale and Welling in the same film. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/blush.gif
Ok......................what's your point? Welling is still a lot bigger than him. :huh:Docker, I think her point is that Welling would TOWER over Brody. :p
Here ya go: yay: it`s a hoot. lol
http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=26133Thanks, Mike! Goin' now... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/flash.gif
Mike22
01-03-2008, 07:52 PM
Thanks, Mike! Goin' now... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/flash.gif
Check this out Pat:
Definetly interesting stuff.
Originally posted by; Jayne
From my absolute best, most trusted source about 20 minutes ago...Not all good news....
"All I can say is no, it is not going to be delayed because of the strike. One hero has yet to be cast and it is a big one. IF, and that's a big if, it gets delayed at all, that will be why. I have spoken to [name edited] personally and as of about a week ago everything was moving exactly as scheduled."
Darthhalen wrote:
Thanks for the update Emi. Who do you think the hereo is? Logic would say its Superman. Once again the casting of Superman becomes an impossible hurdle. Could they still be trying to get Welling? Especially with Kristen taking the lead role in Street Fighter, it makes sense to try for Welling again. Of course that;s assuming its Superman and not somebody else.
Please keep us updated in regards to casting. Thanks!
Originally posted by; Jayne
Logic would say that it's Superman. However, the backlash about the rumor of a 6' 5" Batman who is only 21 could have made WB take notice. Things are extremely tight lipped and I couldn't get any info out of my friend other than what she said.
If it is Superman and if the problem was the filming schedule for Welling, then yes, I do know for a fact he would be free as of 2 weeks from now. That means nothing other than it couldn't be a reason for him not signing.
Docker2.0
01-03-2008, 07:53 PM
Whiteflag is a she?! :eek: I was really askin cuase I didn't know the point. Sorry Flag. :p
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 08:01 PM
Oh jeeze! Twenty eight pages! Twenty freakin' EIGHT pages?!!! I read the first page and that was eeeeenuf!
<- No patience for this tonight...
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/denile.gif
And oh yeah, Docker, Whiteflag is most definitely a "she." There's a LOT of us here, doncha know? :D :p
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 10:44 PM
Well, having just taken a stroll across the I-Net, it appears fanboys from here to Timbuktu are ready to go all Seppuku on us. Hah! Suckers! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tongue2.gif
I'm gonna go ahead and jump on the "It's dead, Jim" bandwagon and laugh. I'm guessing WGA did-in JL. Oh well. And the fate of the SR sequel shouldn't come as any surprise to ANYBODY whose been paying attention over the last... oh, I dunno... eighteen months or so? :O
BUT, just 'cause I like to throw bombs out and watch people dance, nobody seems to be paying much attention to Craig's little news tidbit over at K-Site...
A Message To Our Readers: We Have Not Forgotten You!
It seems that with this whole writers' strike going on, there hasn't been a lot of news in recent weeks. Hopefully some new stuff will come up once the new episodes start up again... there's probably a big announcement or two still in the future...
http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htmhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/grenade.gif
So with that, dance people, DANCE! :cool:
Relax, it's probably casting related - for SMALLVILLE! :rolleyes: :p
Docker2.0
01-03-2008, 10:54 PM
JLA is dead? I hope so! :o
AgentPat
01-03-2008, 11:50 PM
JLA is dead? I hope so! :oLOL! Well, it's not like I *want* that, but at this point, it's easier to believe the poop hit the fan than it is all of the exceptions to the rules people manage to dig up when they're grasping for straws, y'know?
Again, it's not that I WANT to see JL crash and burn; I genuinely would really like to see a live action Justice League. But I want to see TW be Superman more, so I'm gonna start putting my eggs in that basket.
So yeah, um, any day now. Waiting, juuuussst waiting... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/tap2.gif
;) :p :D
Whiteflag
01-04-2008, 05:51 AM
Docker, I think her point is that Welling would TOWER over Brody. :p
Yes, that was my point. Thanks Pat! :yay:
Whiteflag is a she?! :eek: I was really askin cuase I didn't know the point. Sorry Flag. :p
That's okay. I'm a she and a loyal Welling fan. :p
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