Tom Welling as Superman

[SamuraiSon6]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6648


ooooooooooooooh boy.......

[The Incredible Hulk]

One and Done....

[SamuraiSon6]

i dont wanna rejoice in another persons losses, but lets just say......im looking on the bright side of things.....;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

personally I never had any issues with the "other guy." He seemed like a nice enough guy. Not a great actor and definitelly not embodiement of Superman, but he still seems like a pretty genuine sort. His fans on the other hand.... if I have any "schadenfreude" in this, its towards them not him.

[KBX]

I don't know if this is false hope but....

I've tried posting this twice but keep getting logged out for some reason...

Okay...You don't know how right you may actually be.

I have to apologize but I've been holding out on you guys a little. I woke up to see Latino Review is hearing mostly the same thing with only part missing so since I like being the first to announce things whenever possible, here it goes.

Latino Review backed up the Variety story about Singer leaving (which I actually announced in Dec 2006) and that Routh would not be returning to play Superman (again I have them beat by a year). They also said the actor from JLA would take over the solo Superman films.

Here's where I may know a bit more or they just aren't ready to spill it yet.

They mentioned they got the news of Routh not returning several weeks ago from WB people and promised not to be the ones to say anything. Well, I got the same news back in late November with a bit more detail than what they said. I was also told that no casting announcement was made on Nov 18th because of the writer's strike. Not because it affected the script but because it stood the chance of freeing up a certain person of interest about 2 months early from his filming commitments which it has officially done so the wait seems to have paid off. The constant "No comments" and lack of denials were due to ongoing (and still going) negotiations with Tom Welling. He supposedly has discussed this with a close friend and was told that it is already too late to avoid being typecast and he should go where the money is or risk ending up with no career after Smallville. He is apparently giving this serious thought. Does it mean he will sign?? Not necessarily but it does mean there is still a lot of hope left.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=282

[AgentPat]

Oh... gosh....

http://www.mindspill.org/509/enclosure/speed_rollercoaster_big.jpg

:ninja:

[KBX]

Hey, why not have the roller coaster be at its highest point when the announcement is made?

Maybe the WB did want Welling, and threw money at him, its just he doesn't want to play Sups.... I dunno, everything is possible at this point...

[Ultimate_Superman]

If Welling becomes Superman then thats good atleast we'll have someone the fans can agree on.

[Menthol]

I don't know if this is false hope but....



http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=282

Oh you better not be lying! :cmad:

I believe you... for now :hehe:

[Zorex]

Aaahaha, and the loop-de-loops keep on coming.

I laughed when I read the part about it being too late to be typecast. I mean, really, if people know Tom Welling, it's probably not exactly as Tom Welling...

Definitely too late. Yeah, might as well go where the money and further, even higher-profile work is.

[triplet]

Well, emi had been saying that about Routh and Singer for nearly a year so it's not that big a surprise, but if she's right about that what else is she right about?

Interesting that more mainstream sources are beginning to say the same things she has about Singer and Routh, will they soon confirm her newest tidbits about Tom?

The roller coaster is not over yet, apparently.

[Prison Mike]

the welling rumors never die. Good. :yay:

[triplet]

Well, his friend is exactly right.

Tom's been playing "Superman" for 7 years, he's already considered Superman by a lot of people... playing the same part on the big screen won't change that, could even further entrench that idea into people's heads, but it could also mean that he will prove his marketablity as talent to the powers that be.

We all know he helped The Fog and both Cheaper films bring in more than those films would have otherwise had made, but if he can put big summer blockbuster numbers of butts into seats in 09 then it'll prove it.

Being in JLA might very well mean he's typecast, but if he can prove his bankability as a feature actor in a major tent pole film like JLA, in the long run it could be very good for his career.

:up:

I hope he does it and the alleged casting that is still going on fixes some of the potential problems in the rumored cast...

*crosses fingers*

[Migu-EL]

If this latest rumor is true, then it's going to be one hell of a summer in '09.:grin: :ikyn

[Bruce_Wayne29]

the welling rumors never die. Good. :yay:

And they probably never will until people get what they want. Tom Welling as Superman in a new movie.

[Mike22]

Well, his friend is exactly right.

Tom's been playing "Superman" for 7 years, he's already considered Superman by a lot of people... playing the same part on the big screen won't change that, could even further entrench that idea into people's heads, but it could also mean that he will prove his marketablity as talent to the powers that be.

We all know he helped The Fog and both Cheaper films bring in more than those films would have otherwise had made, but if he can put big summer blockbuster numbers of butts into seats in 09 then it'll prove it.

Being in JLA might very well mean he's typecast, but if he can prove his bankability as a feature actor in a major tent pole film like JLA, in the long run it could be very good for his career.

:up:

I hope he does it and the alleged casting that is still going on fixes some of the potential problems in the rumored cast...

*crosses fingers*
Looks like our suspicions about Welling turned out to be true, triplet.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I swear to God, it`s like I can see the future. LOLhttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif J/K.

Anyway, I predicted that this may have been the case and I was 100 % right, and BOY am I glad I was.
Looks like we may finally will get to see Welling in the suit.
Welling is a smart guy and he has done the right thing in consulting with friends and family about this thing. And this close friend of his seems to have given him some good advice. He`s spent the last 6 and a half years portraying basically.......superman, only he wasn`t wearing the suit.
Welling is basically known as young superman in peoples minds, and it doesn`t matter one way or the other if he doesn`t put the suit on, he`s still gotten somewhat typecast. Had the show only lasted for 3 or so years, then it would have been a different case, but after 6 and a half years of playing the same character and also the only incarnation of superman where his powers have truly come to life better than in any other version, people are bound to affiliate superman with Welling for a really long time, unless he gets some other part that breaks the superman association. Which really isn`t unlikely, typecasting today isn`t what it once was. He just has to be smart in his future choices, perhaps get a part in a sitcom or something, he seems to really like comedy.

Soooo in closing I`d just like to say that I`m as happy can be that Singer and Routh are out, not that it came as a surprise, and even better, Welling seems to be taking over as superman. Life is good. http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Mike22]

If this latest rumor is true, then it's going to be one hell of a summer in '09.:grin: :ikyn
That`s gonna be the best summer EVER.http://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[RakuMon]

I agree about "typecasting." In this day and age of celebrity culture, it's impossible to be "typecast" as a character anymore. It's more likely one will be typecast based on the lifestyle they lead (see: Lindsey Lohan) than the characters they portray (see: Hugh Jackman).

And playing a superhero character is no longer a ticket to a dead end career. The aforementioned Jackman is case in point. When people in the MSM talk about Jackman, they talk about him as an actor. Wolverine made him famous, but Hugh Jackman is more famous than Wolverine.

Tobey Maguire and Christian Bale are other examples of actors who had small, loyal followings before they were cast in mega-superhero blockbusters. But their credibility as actors hasn't waned in the slightest. Bale made smart choices in between Bat flicks (Prestige, Rescue Dawn, 3:10 to Yuma, I'm Not There) to showcase his talents. I don't think he need to worry about being typecast as a superhero.

I'm not going to get my hopes up like in August, but if this is true. Great. Tom should take the part in JLA and reboot the Superman franchise in a solo flick. It's about time.

[TheLongestDay]

if Tom is cast,then all the talk of a younger Jla would make perfect sense to me-and my excitement for the film would go through the roof!

It would also make sense tone and acting balance wise to have a younger Batman and so on to keep the darker Nolan series seperate (i cant see Ledgers Joker being a part of a Welling Superman world...i love both but it makes sense for them to be seperate)

[zerohour films]

I agree about "typecasting." In this day and age of celebrity culture, it's impossible to be "typecast" as a character anymore. It's more likely one will be typecast based on the lifestyle they lead (see: Lindsey Lohan) than the characters they portray (see: Hugh Jackman).

And playing a superhero character is no longer a ticket to a dead end career. The aforementioned Jackman is case in point. When people in the MSM talk about Jackman, they talk about him as an actor. Wolverine made him famous, but Hugh Jackman is more famous than Wolverine.

Tobey Maguire and Christian Bale are other examples of actors who had small, loyal followings before they were cast in mega-superhero blockbusters. But their credibility as actors hasn't waned in the slightest. Bale made smart choices in between Bat flicks (Prestige, Rescue Dawn, 3:10 to Yuma, I'm Not There) to showcase his talents. I don't think he need to worry about being typecast as a superhero.

I'm not going to get my hopes up like in August, but if this is true. Great. Tom should take the part in JLA and reboot the Superman franchise in a solo flick. It's about time.

Agreed, I think actors today don't run as big of a risk being typecast as in the past. But with that said the only thing that separates Wellings situation from say Bale, Jackman or Maguire is that he will be protraying the same character in different media for a long period of time.

IMO, if he takes the role than it is VERY important that he make smart choices outside of playing Superman and he pursue very diverse genres and roles. His resume would need to show other characters/types besides CK/Superman.
That is an advantage the other actors mentioned have over him.

Still I am remaining very skeptical of this latest report. Even though to me it makes sense with the delay in announcments.

I guess we will find out soon enough...won't we???

[TheLongestDay]

oh yeh and.....



BAM!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i51/thelongestday_photos/JLAXcopycopy.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

oh no, not again....

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Taking this role will increase his negotial power and will help him get other roles that will challenge his acting chops.
I think he was also smart in not being all over the press stating how big of a Superman fan he is or how much he wants this role because by doing that even though it wins over some fanboys, it makes you lose any power you might have at negotiations. This way he has the advantage, the fans want him, and both he and Warner know that, so that can bring him a world of opportunities if he negotiates say a deal where other non-Superman movies are included and especially good money to set him and his family for life.
Like everybody said, he just needs to be smart with what he does in between Superman gigs.
He needs to not only small indy movies but big movies and most of all do as many diverse roles as he can.
Do comedies (he has great comedy timing), romantic movies, action, thrillers, dramas, adventure, period, as many the better because that will help bring down the walls of typecasting.
I think he has the talent and most of all the work ethic to pull it off and follow the footsteps of Cruise, Pitt and DiCaprio as a guy who was looked on either by a role or his looks and become respected by his talent.

[spark627]

I think having Tom take over Superman is the best thing they can do.

Think about it... Superman Returns was somewhat of a flop. Many people didn't like Singer's vision or Brandon Routh as Supes (I sure didn't). But through it all, Smallville has been strong (this season has great ratings). Why not let Smallville end with Season 8 and lead into JL and then re-start the Superman franchise with Tom, the Smallville fans would love it, many comic book fans would and the general public... prob wouldn't know the difference or care. Smallville has had a lot of success, so build on it. It is the only Superman themed franchise that consistently works.

My bf is not a comic book fan or Smallville fan (except I force him to watch it often) and even he said "Why not just let Tom Welling be Superman, most people like him and he is physically perfect for it". I imagine many people will think this way.

Many people thought Brandon Routh looked so much like Chris Reeves that they were excited, well... he didnt deliver. Tom is his own Superman, he does not build off of what Christopher Reeves did and thats what makes him a great Clark. Brandon Routh didn't live up to Christopher Reeves, Tom Welling won't have to.

Let Season 8 end off with Clark already at the Planet and established as Superman and let it lead right into JL.

[zerohour films]

I think having Tom take over Superman is the best thing they can do.

Think about it... Superman Returns was somewhat of a flop. Many people didn't like Singer's vision or Brandon Routh as Supes (I sure didn't). But through it all, Smallville has been strong (this season has great ratings). Why not let Smallville end with Season 8 and lead into JL and then re-start the Superman franchise with Tom, the Smallville fans would love it, many comic book fans would and the general public... prob wouldn't know the difference or care. Smallville has had a lot of success, so build on it. It is the only Superman themed franchise that consistently works.

My bf is not a comic book fan or Smallville fan (except I force him to watch it often) and even he said "Why not just let Tom Welling be Superman, most people like him and he is physically perfect for it". I imagine many people will think this way.

Many people thought Brandon Routh looked so much like Chris Reeves that they were excited, well... he didnt deliver. Tom is his own Superman, he does not build off of what Christopher Reeves did and thats what makes him a great Clark. Brandon Routh didn't live up to Christopher Reeves, Tom Welling won't have to.

Let Season 8 end off with Clark already at the Planet and established as Superman and let it lead right into JL.

You just made me think of something...
What if the reports of the strike delaying JL didn't have anything to do with the script for that movie, but the ability of the SV writers to properly end their show to lead into the movie?

Just a wild theory that should make for good conversation. :yay:

[spark627]

You just made me think of something...
What if the reports of the strike delaying JL didn't have anything to do with the script for that movie, but the ability of the SV writers to properly end their show to lead into the movie?

Just a wild theory that should make for good conversation. :yay:


Well, i doubt it bc they HAVE to end the series a certain way... thats the story. No matter what, it would lead into JL.

[GreenLantern75]

I don't know if this is false hope but....



http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=282

She's a week or so behind on things but foir the most part it seems about right. Zero barrier is still about a week away at this point.

[zerohour films]

Well, i doubt it bc they HAVE to end the series a certain way... thats the story. No matter what, it would lead into JL.


That's true. Just a thought that popped in my head and obviously I'd rather post here than work today :woot:

[triplet]

She's a week or so behind on things but foir the most part it seems about right. Zero barrier is still about a week away at this point.

Well, I doubt they'll settle the strike in the next week. They haven't been doing anything more than having "back channel" talks since negotiations broke off last month...

Pretty much I think the point of no return has already been reached....

[triplet]

Latest from emi:

All this stuff is from the same source. The same one that back in Dec 2006 told me Singer would do Valkyrie, Castro Street, and a third film and ultimately leave Superman which has pretty much all happened now. The same one that told me in Feb 2007 that WB would be green lighting JLA and looking at Welling, not Routh, which for the most part has been proven as well. This is the same source that I said before I trust with my life. True, she was lead to believe prior to the strike that Welling was not going to happen, but since the strike didn't end on Dec 3rd and Smallville will end with only 15 episodes instead of 23, they held off signing the person who Miller picked. She isn't 100% positive that Welling will sign, but she said the offer is one that not many people would turn down. Just the fact they restarted the negotiations was big news for me.

As for when it would be announced, it depends. As most people know, actors were still joining The Dark Knight and Indiana Jones 4 after filming began. The big thing is JLA will start on time, period. It's one thing for a director to say things are on schedule a year or so out, but with a month left Miller insists it's a go and I know people are still working on the sets.



http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=294#5899


Some interesting comments in there....

Things to think about anyway.

[Migu-EL]

I don't want too get myself to excited because we know what happened the last few times, but if Welling does get the part as supes in JL and that movie is successful, he could be portraying the Man of Steel in six films. That's only of course if they go through with allowing him to do the reboot and if the first movie from that reboot is successful.


Wow...there's too many possibilities.:wow: :oldrazz:

[RakuMon]

Just curious, but does Emi no longer post on Counting Down? Is that site now defunct?

[KBX]

We should tend to no get any hopes up, so just dismiss this rumor like it never happened.... :word:, but this lady seems to be quite confident in what she is stating...

Offer not many people will turn down, huh. You mean the Superman role, or the $$$$$?

Yes, I am glad JLA will start on time...

[AgentPat]

I think the whole typecasting argument is just something fanboys like to debate.

[Kevin Smith glances at camera and winks over the irony of that statement LOL]

I think the closest thing to typecasting you'll see today is where an actor is chosen for a certain flavor of role or genre, but there are exceptions to even that rule. Bruce Willis and Ahunuld made big, action hero roles their bread and butter, but they still managed to work in movies like The Sixth Sense and Twins. And lets face it, Arnie SUCKED as an actor when he first started. Yet before becoming the Governator, he was pulling in $20M dollars per film. :eek:

Bale has been a working actor since he was a kid. I was a fan of his for quite a while and have seen most of his films. But back in the day, Bale was dubbed "box office poison" on various news groups like rec.arts.movies.current-films. I know because I used to defend him there, so to speak. Bale got lucky, IMHO, when he landed the role of Batman. It's not hard to extrapolate how Welling's agents might have used Bale as an example. Nor is it hard to imagine (for me) that meeting and working with actors like Lynda Carter, Christopher Reeve, and Dean Cain, who became known for their superhero characters and enjoyed the adulation, might have influenced Welling's opinion on the big picture. Who knows?

oh no, not again....Oh yes, again! It'll never end. Ever. :p

I think having Tom take over Superman is the best thing they can do.Now THERE's a sig-worthy quote! LOL

It's true though. If casting Superman is such a contentious issue - and it appears to be with fanboys - then why not cast somebody who already has a fanbase? And bonus! The fanbase extends to fans of the character too. Seems like a slam dunk to me. But what do I know? ;)

My bf is not a comic book fan or Smallville fan (except I force him to watch it often) and even he said "Why not just let Tom Welling be Superman, most people like him and he is physically perfect for it". I imagine many people will think this way. I get that from people who don't care one way or another, which is interesting, 'cause those folks just see it as the "right way" to go, even though it doesn't matter to them personally. Weird, huh?

She's a week or so behind on things but for the most part it seems about right. Zero barrier is still about a week away at this point.Okay! That cinches it. I need a roller coaster smiley. Anybody?

Well, I doubt they'll settle the strike in the next week. They haven't been doing anything more than having "back channel" talks since negotiations broke off last month...

Pretty much I think the point of no return has already been reached....If it is true that the delay is based solely on an actor's availability, which is linked to the WGA strike, then I would imagine they'd have to wait it out till the bitter end. IF they announced prematurely and the strike ended to everybody's surprise, the poop would really hit the fan. Remember how pissed everybody was when Sanchez broke the news prematurely back in August?

Latest from emi:

...but she said the offer is one that not many people would turn down.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=294#5899Some interesting comments in there....

Things to think about anyway.Indeed. And that little tidbit reminds me of the diddy about $6M + backend... But yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves. LOL

Still though, I admit the idea that this may all come to an end in a week - one way or another - has me a bit excited.

Just curious, but does Emi no longer post on Counting Down? Is that site now defunct?Nope, CD is still up, and Emi still posts there. :)

[Serene]

I don't know if this is false hope but....



http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=282


Oh my. I think I'm having chest pains. But you know.. the good kind. :D


She's a week or so behind on things but foir the most part it seems about right. Zero barrier is still about a week away at this point.

Oh you and your intriguing posts. ;) A week behind as in, "things are already settled?"

C'mon... it's a long boring hiatus, we need more chum in the water to circle. :D

[triplet]

Just curious, but does Emi no longer post on Counting Down? Is that site now defunct?

No, she's still posting there but said in an earlier post that she's mostly posting Transformers 2 info...

We should tend to no get any hopes up, so just dismiss this rumor like it never happened.... :word:, but this lady seems to be quite confident in what she is stating...

Offer not many people will turn down, huh. You mean the Superman role, or the $$$$$?

I think that its the money. That's a pretty common term for offering a ton of money. For example, when Mr. Triplet took the job down here in Florida the dean said she would make him an offer that would be hard to turn down and it woulda been.

The wage increase was about 50% above what he'd been making in Colorado...

I imagine they'll pretty much give Tom whatever the hell he wants to finally get a Superman that will hopefully work out better than the last one...

[JackMercy]

Latest from emi:

The big thing is JLA will start on time, period. It's one thing for a director to say things are on schedule a year or so out, but with a month left Miller insists it's a go and I know people are still working on the sets.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&id=5570&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=294#5899



Ehmm...how should I say this? I've been following Emi's rumbings -- for a long time... She's a cool character.

But...even like-minded people disagree once in a while...


Oh, and additionally...

"Would you rather have some syrup on the side of those pancakes, or would you like the strawberries and cream as well...?"

:word:

[Mike_D202]

I hope Wlling agrees to take the role. Hes SUPERMAN.

[LastSon Kal-El]

The title of this thread says it all. Now let's all just imagine...Justice League starring Tom Welling as Superman. It's funny how a blurb can send this board and others into a tailspin. I haven't posted in close to a month, now I'm refreshing every ten minutes.

[triplet]

Ehmm...how should I say this? I've been following Emi's rumbings -- for a long time... She's a cool character.

But...even like-minded people disagree once in a while...


Oh, and additionally...

"Would you rather have some syrup on the side of those pancakes, or would you like the strawberries and cream as well...?"

:word:

Jeez, Jack...

Can you at least occassionally be less cryptic?

Pancakes?

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/10.18.01/gifs/best-read-pancakes-0142.jpg

*facepalm*

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'm sort of in the mood for a grand slam breakfast...

[AgentPat]

Jeez, Jack...

Can you at least occassionally be less cryptic?

Pancakes?

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/10.18.01/gifs/best-read-pancakes-0142.jpg

*facepalm*Wait! I speak Jive[/Airplane]

Jack is asking (rhetorically of course, and via metaphor - duh!), if you'd rather have Welling as Superman in JL with a bunch of nobodies, or would you prefer Welling as Superman with the rest of the SV cast in their own film?

How my doin? :p

[zerohour films]

Wait! I speak Jive[/Airplane]

Jack is asking (rhetorically of course, and via metaphor - duh!), if you'd rather have Welling as Superman in JL with a bunch of nobodies, or would you prefer Welling as Superman with the rest of the SV cast in their own film?

How my doin? :p


This is how you should have ended that sentence: How my doin? Terky!

Anyhoo...great interpretation. I was thinking somewhat along those lines.
But doesn't that mean that we would still have another Supes for JL? Even though Variety mentioned it would be the same person....aaahhhh you just have to love all of the rumors and speculation and cryptic messages.

How long until Feb 11th again?

[AgentPat]

This is how you should have ended that sentence: How my doin? Terky!LOL!

Anyhoo...great interpretation. I was thinking somewhat along those lines.It's either that, or Welling in his own stand-alone Superman film, which works for me too. :D

But doesn't that mean that we would still have another Supes for JL? Sure! If JL was still happening, and I'm still not convinced it is. And neither is Jack, apparently. ;)

How long until Feb 11th again?Five weeks, or there abouts. But I think we're gonna know one way or another before that time. We'll see.

[Serene]

Jack is asking (rhetorically of course, and via metaphor - duh!), if you'd rather have Welling as Superman in JL with a bunch of nobodies, or would you prefer Welling as Superman with the rest of the SV cast in their own film?


I might have to say this from behind the couch icon, but... for me, it depends on more than just JL or SV movie. Let's say that the JL movie does move forward, at full, big blockbuster budget steam. And let's say that the cast really isn't set in stone yet (hello, Peter Jackson ;)). I'm still... hopeful for that to surprise everyone and be a fantastic action movie to renew interest in the DC superheroes. I know.. I know.. lots of finger crossing in all that.

As much as I'd ADORE a SV movie, I'd worry if it wasn't fully supported and relegated to a shoestring budget kind of film that wasn't much more than a two-hour SV episode. I want more than that for Tom if he is to play Superman on the big screen.

[phil]

At this point I don't believe one freakin thing from anyone. But I hope sometime soon in this very thread someone quotes my crybaby remarks and calls me a couple names.




But I'll never ever ever take back my comments about Brody!!!! :oldrazz:

[zerohour films]

I might have to say this from behind the couch icon, but... for me, it depends on more than just JL or SV movie. Let's say that the JL movie does move forward, at full, big blockbuster budget steam. And let's say that the cast really isn't set in stone yet (hello, Peter Jackson ;)). I'm still... hopeful for that to surprise everyone and be a fantastic action movie to renew interest in the DC superheroes. I know.. I know.. lots of finger crossing in all that.

As much as I'd ADORE a SV movie, I'd worry if it wasn't fully supported and relegated to a shoestring budget kind of film that wasn't much more than a two-hour SV episode. I want more than that for Tom if he is to play Superman on the big screen.

Agreed, but given the character (and what it should mean to WB) and competition from other superhero movies hopefully that wouldn't be the case.

SV is already shot beautifully for television, all they need is a hell of a story (which from that past interview with them I think they have).

I would think given the proper budget
(along with the right man in the suit:cwink: ) we could get a really great film.

But in the words of Gordon "I've been wrong before"

[triplet]

Wait! I speak Jive[/Airplane]

Jack is asking (rhetorically of course, and via metaphor - duh!), if you'd rather have Welling as Superman in JL with a bunch of nobodies, or would you prefer Welling as Superman with the rest of the SV cast in their own film?

How my doin? :p

Well, if he gets JLA I don't care about the rest of the cast, really, except in how they look (whether or not they generally look the part and can act is all I care about).

Actually, I think I would prefer him in JLA rather than waiting for a Smallville based movie since that would get him into tights sooner rather than later, but that's just IMHO.

[triplet]

I might have to say this from behind the couch icon, but... for me, it depends on more than just JL or SV movie. Let's say that the JL movie does move forward, at full, big blockbuster budget steam. And let's say that the cast really isn't set in stone yet (hello, Peter Jackson ;)). I'm still... hopeful for that to surprise everyone and be a fantastic action movie to renew interest in the DC superheroes. I know.. I know.. lots of finger crossing in all that.

As much as I'd ADORE a SV movie, I'd worry if it wasn't fully supported and relegated to a shoestring budget kind of film that wasn't much more than a two-hour SV episode. I want more than that for Tom if he is to play Superman on the big screen.

Agreed, but given the character (and what it should mean to WB) and competition from other superhero movies hopefully that wouldn't be the case.

SV is already shot beautifully for television, all they need is a hell of a story (which from that past interview with them I think they have).

I would think given the proper budget
(along with the right man in the suit:cwink: ) we could get a really great film.

But in the words of Gordon "I've been wrong before"

Quoted for truth, squared!

:D

Personally, I'd rather Tom do JLA than maybe waiting for longer for any potential Smallville based film which wouldn't likely have as big a budget nor be even guarenteed a theatrical release....

Hell, how much would it suck if it were straight to DVD?

*shudders*

Uhm, No. I wouldn't want that.

If possible, I'd rather Tom do JLA and then perhaps move onto any future superman reboot film...

At this point, a Smallville film would probably not sound as good as JLA or a reboot to the bean counters and who knows if it would have any kind of budget at all...

[mellyM]

I don't need or particularly want an SV movie, I want Tom to graduate to the big screen and leave his tv days behind him, I thnk he deserves that. I love the show, but I don't particularly trust Al/Miles anymore, and after possibly 8 seasons, I hope they've said all they've needed to say.

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/lookatme.gif

It's either that, or Welling in his own stand-alone Superman film, which works for me too. :D

[Whiteflag]

I don't need or particularly want an SV movie, I want Tom to graduate to the big screen and leave his tv days behind him, I think he deserves that. I love the show, but I don't particularly trust Al/Miles anymore, and after possibly 8 seasons, I hope they've said all they've needed to say.

I agree on that. :yay:

[triplet]

I don't need or particularly want an SV movie, I want Tom to graduate to the big screen and leave his tv days behind him, I thnk he deserves that. I love the show, but I don't particularly trust Al/Miles anymore, and after possibly 8 seasons, I hope they've said all they've needed to say.

Quoted for truth.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/lookatme.gif

No one is saying that you wanted a Smallville film over the JLA, but if your interpretation of Jack's typically infuriating cryptic commentary is spot on that is what he was seemingly implying.

All I'm saying if that's what they want, there is even more truth below than I had thought.... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/lookatme.gif

[triplet]

Oh, and someone over on IESB posted a link to a news article (http://www.superheroflix.com/news/52/25452.php), which included a link to Eva Green's web page (http://www.evagreenweb.com/?p=156):

She's not in JLA.

That's too bad, I really liked her in Casino Royale....

[AgentPat]

No one is saying that you wanted a Smallville film over the JLA, but if your interpretation of Jack's typically infuriating cryptic commentary is spot on that is what he was seemingly implying.No no, that's not what I meant. :D

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think there's a lot of truth to...

Welling being Warner's first choice for Superman post SR
Him being offered the role
Him accepting the role
G&M putting the kibosh on his being cast due to...
Scheduling issues
Their not getting any production kick-backs
Deciding to wait to take Welling and Co. to their own Superman film
Warners waiting for force majeure so they can cast Welling anyway
JL not happening due to the strike <-- wait for it
Warners keeping Welling in mind for a Superman feature after SV ends
G&M, Welling and Co. still being interested

^ That's me putting the pieces together based on prior statements from various people. Jack's words are in there somewhere, I think. They're just covered with pizza toppings and pancake syrup. LOL :p ;)

Bummer about Eva Green. Oh well. :(

[Sebastos]

So I guess if Routh is out as Superman things are looking good for Welling to take the role? Some of you should be happy about this.

[AgentPat]

So I guess if Routh is out as Superman things are looking good for Welling to take the role? Some of you should be happy about this.Heh. Ya think? :D

I doubt you'll find too many sad faces on this side of the forums. Not unless SV is axed prematurely of course. I doubt that would happen though - not due to any film that is. It didn't happen with SR, so it wouldn't happen with JL. SV would only go away if CW tanks, which *could* happen.

So fingers crossed. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pray.gif

[Sebastos]

LOL, I guess Welling is the one to take up the role. I can't think of anyone else as a replacement.

[TheLongestDay]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35200

Apparently Routh is still in for the solo supes films???????

[AgentPat]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35200

Apparently Routh is still in for the solo supes films???????Wait! Hang on... I'll e-mail Moviehole and everybody will swear Danny DiVito is the next Superman. :p

Folks, Welling may never EVER wear the Superman outfit. Not in SV. Not a stand-alone Superman film. Not in JL. That is totally up in the air - no pun intended. But my opinion on the Routh topic has nothing to do with Welling. Just wanted to get that out of the way before continuing...

Routh IS done as Superman, people. End of story. Finito. No more. History. Godspeed to him. He's done with Superman. That one you can take to the bank.

[Dark_Lord]

Wait! Hang on... I'll e-mail Moviehole and everybody will swear Danny DiVito is the next Superman. :p

Folks, Welling may never EVER wear the Superman outfit. Not in SV. Not a stand-alone Superman film. Not in JL. That is totally up in the air - no pun intended. But my opinion on the Routh topic has nothing to do with Welling. Just wanted to get that out of the way before continuing...

Routh IS done as Superman, people. End of story. Finito. No more. History. Godspeed to him. He's done with Superman. That one you can take to the bank.

How do you know?

[The Incredible Hulk]

ah yes, good ole AICN. The same site that was 100% sure that the skinny Rupert guy from Hellboy was going to be the JLA Superman. I was waiting on something like this to pop up from them or Moviehole....

[Ultimate_Superman]

How do you know?
She doesn't know that she is just hoping he is out so Welling can take over which there is nothing wrong with that.

[Serene]

ah yes, good ole AICN. The same site that was 100% sure that the skinny Rupert guy from Hellboy was going to be the JLA Superman. I was waiting on something like this to pop up from them or Moviehole....


Wait, I missed that. Did they really get that "scoop" from moviehole?

bwahahaha!

[phil]

ah yes, good ole AICN. The same site that was 100% sure that the skinny Rupert guy from Hellboy was going to be the JLA Superman. I was waiting on something like this to pop up from them or Moviehole....

And guess what? A certain mod at bluetights posted this in big bold letters and now they are acting like all the other info was just a false alarm and this is the real deal, lol

[Prison Mike]

AICN and moviehole sucks big time.

[AgentPat]

How do you know?Fortune cookie.

ah yes, good ole AICN. The same site that was 100% sure that the skinny Rupert guy from Hellboy was going to be the JLA Superman. I was waiting on something like this to pop up from them or Moviehole....Yeah, that's the one.

Wait, I missed that. Did they really get that "scoop" from moviehole?No, but they just as soon have.

Here's the ironic part: Posters on the Hype and BT's were slamming Anne Thompson of fracking VARIETY for not having references or back-up for what she posted on her blog, yet they'll believe Moriarty and his "high-ranking mole" before Latino Review - the site that broke the casting news about Brandon fracking Routh - and who went on to re-confirm their report yesterday. Now everybody is backpedalling. Well, everybody except Emi...

I just called my source thinking she screwed me and she was laughing her ass off saying Monday is gonna be a fun day at work. This new report from a mole on AintItCool.com is pure backlash. If you read the whole thing, even he isn't 100% positive which story is true. Regardless, WB is pretty pissed about this all coming out. Like Latino Review said, they had to promise not to be the ones to say anything when they heard it weeks ago (WB wanted more time so nobody looks bad), but figured if Variety was talking, they could too. I'll have more info (or should anyway) on Wednesday next week.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&amp;Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=5914#5914Now I personally STILL have my doubts about JL happening or Welling even being involved anymore, but the BR footnotes to this story were sealed MONTHS ago.

[Dark_Lord]

Fortune cookie.

Riiiiiight....

[Serene]

Here's the ironic part: Posters on the Hype and BT's were slamming Anne Thompson of fracking VARIETY for not having references or back-up for what she posted on her blog, yet they'll believe Moriarty and his "high-ranking mole" before Latino Review - the site that broke the casting news about Brandon fracking Routh - and who went on to re-confirm their report yesterday.

That's just amazing. I was doing this O_o at all the people pissing about Anne Thompson and Variety.

Now everybody is backpedalling. Well, everybody except Emi...

Now I personally STILL have my doubts about JL happening or Welling even being involved anymore, but the BR footnotes to this story were sealed MONTHS ago.

As frustrating as all this has been, I'll be the first to say that I'm enjoying the circus starting up again. After all, it's hiatus time, we need some fun stuff to stir up the boards.

[AgentPat]

That's just amazing. I was doing this O_o at all the people pissing about Anne Thompson and Variety. Oh, I know! It's a complete laugh riot, and I'm not being facetious LOL. The hypocrisy is dripping. Seriously. AICN? Aint it Cool News!!!! Hello? LMAO!!!

Whatever... :whatever:

As frustrating as all this has been, I'll be the first to say that I'm enjoying the circus starting up again. After all, it's hiatus time, we need some fun stuff to stir up the boards.Well, we knew things would pick up as JL's shoot date neared, but I didn't expect discussion to be so... animated. And I certainly didn't expect MOS et al to be dragged into the fray. Again. But um... yeah! Fun times it is, ahuh! :D :up:

[Billy Batson]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/lookatme.gif
Wow! Miami Dolphins hired The Big Tuna.
The WB Fired Routh as :supes:.

2008 starting out on a good note.

[Mike_D202]

Here's the ironic part: Posters on the Hype and BT's were slamming Anne Thompson of fracking VARIETY for not having references or back-up for what she posted on her blog, yet they'll believe Moriarty and his "high-ranking mole" before Latino Review - the site that broke the casting news about Brandon fracking Routh - and who went on to re-confirm their report yesterday. Now everybody is backpedalling. Well, everybody except Emi...


:D

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/latinoreviewprank.jpg

Ahh..that was a fun day. :hehe:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/30truck6.gif

Latino Review...:down:

[AgentPat]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/30truck6.gifNice. :up:

The Ford dealership down the street from me has one just like it in their showroom. Black, of course. Not sure what that proves though? :huh:

Our very own Muscles - bless his TW-loving soul - sent some funky report to Moviehole a few years ago that exploded so fast across the I-Net, Malice had to delete the thread that referenced it here. Bandwidth issues, I guess. *shrugs* Still crazy funny.

IESB's Rob Sanchez got double whammied, first by MotownMarvel and then later by Lady M. I confess to feeling a bit sorry for him after those incidents. I don't think he deserved it, but c'est la vie.

Hell, the other day I joked about sending a report to Moviehole about Danny DiVito being cast as Superman. Now that's a pretty OBSCURE joke, yet I saw two posters in the AICN talkback section reference Danny DiVito in a similar but strikingly negative context. How coincidental? :D Either somebody bought into the "rumor" and it spread (hard to believe, but who knows?), or some BR fan read it and thought they'd have some fun with me. Why BR fan? Oh, I dunno. Could have something to do with their moronic posts. Just a silly hunch. :cool:

Regardless, it doesn't change the hypocrisy of people chiding Thompson of VARIETY for not listing her sources, yet buying into "news" posted on AICN - the bastion of accurate Hollywood information - gleaned from a source known only as a "high-ranking mole." Give me a freakin' break. ;)

[Mikelus]

What a start, maybe 2008 is going to be fun despite the strike. :hehe:

I really think Brandon is done, same for Singer, so a reboot is next, which is logical. The JL casting is not complete yet, so there's still hope Welling could end up with the role, lets hope this madness gets solved in the next months.

[Mike_D202]

Nice. :up:

The Ford dealership down the street from me has one just like it in their showroom. Black, of course. Not sure what that proves though? :huh:


It means if I can fool Latino Review, ANYBODY can.

[AgentPat]

It means if I can fool Latino Review, ANYBODY can.*sigh*

You've clearly missed my point. When is the last time you e-mailed a fake rumor to Variety - and they posted it?

I'm not saying that Variety - or HR for that matter - is never wrong. But dismissing an article as reported by the deputy editor of Variety because she didn't list her sources, yet accepting the comments from somebody identified only as a "high-ranking mole" on Aint it Dumb News is asinine. But hey, that's just my humble opinion. Believe what you want to believe. :)

[Mike_D202]

Shinanigans!

[AgentPat]

Hey, this is interesting, though despite the article's date, I'm not sure if it's "new" or not?

Common To Play Green Lantern In Justice League Of America
January 5th, 2008
Author: Jake Paine

After strong roles and critical acclaim in 2007's Smokin' Aces and American Gangster, veteran Chicago rapper Common is furthering his big screen merits in 2008 and beyond.

After initial rumors that Common was in consideration for the role of Green Lantern in the comic book-inspired film, rumors circulated this week that the 35 year-old had signed paperwork to proceed with production. G.O.O.D. Music representatives were not available for comment.

Common will also appear in Wanted and The Night Watchmen, two films, presently in post-production, are scheduled for release this year.

The rapper has also recently agreed to become a spokesperson for The Ford Motor Company, advertising the Lincoln Navigator alongside airing his single "I Want You" in commercials airing starting this week.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.6172/title.common-to-play-green-lantern-in-justice-league-of-americaDid something happen this past week where Common supposedly signed the deal? Or is this just wicked old information? I know he's been rumored for the role for a Very. Long. Time.

[Mike_D202]

I like him. I approve :up:

[AgentPat]

I like him. I approve :up:I haven't seen him in anything, so I really don't have an opinion on him one way or another. That said, I haven't seen too much opposition to him - unlike actors like DJ Cotrona LOL - so if he works for you and others, rock on! That works for me. :D

So is that report "new," or is it just regurgitated news? Any idea?

[Mike_D202]

I dont believe his casting has been "confirmed" yet, all I heard were rumors.

He was in "American Gangster" if you've seen it?

[AgentPat]

I dont believe his casting has been "confirmed" yet, all I heard were rumors.

He was in "American Gangster" if you've seen it?Nope. I lead a sheltered existence. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

LOL ;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

It means if I can fool Latino Review, ANYBODY can.

well now arent you the crafty one. I guess its a good thing they say they actually spoke with some studio people as opposed to basing their story off a photo of Routh getting a pink slip.

Look, no one is saying LR is infallible. Hell you can find times the NY Times and Wall Street Journal botched facts on something if you look hard enough. The point was that LR is right on a hell of a lot of things involving superhero movies, moreso than other sites like AICN, DH, Moviehole, IESB, etc. So they should most likely be given the benefit of the doubt. The same applies to a greater extent to Variety.

And the hypocrisy of some is mind-boggling. They'll take Variety to task for posting unconfirmed things they've heard b/c it doesnt suit what they want to hear, but yet if AICN, which is about 1000 steps below Variiety on the credibility meter, does virtually the same thing and pulls out the good ole "unnamed mole" than its accepted as God's honest truth solely b/c its what they want to hear.

[Mike22]

I haven't seen him in anything, so I really don't have an opinion on him one way or another. That said, I haven't seen too much opposition to him - unlike actors like DJ Cotrona LOL - so if he works for you and others, rock on! That works for me. :D

So is that report "new," or is it just regurgitated news? Any idea?

He`s quite good Pat. I saw him in American Gangster, and he seemed to be like a great choice for GL. I do hope they have him work out though.

IF Welling is cast, then at least one thing will be for sure, physically he`ll make them all look like little kids. lol. Exept for bats and WW. Bats will most likely be wearing a suit similar to bales. I do hope they have superman hook up with Wonder Woman though, that Gale chick is really hot.

[Mike_D202]

well now arent you the crafty one.

:D


I guess its a good thing they say they actually spoke with some studio people as opposed to basing their story off a photo of Routh getting a pink slip.

Look, no one is saying LR is infallible. Hell you can find times the NY Times and Wall Street Journal botched facts on something if you look hard enough. The point was that LR is right on a hell of a lot of things involving superhero movies, moreso than other sites like AICN, DH, Moviehole, IESB, etc. So they should most likely be given the benefit of the doubt. The same applies to a greater extent to Variety.

And the hypocrisy of some is mind-boggling. They'll take Variety to task for posting unconfirmed things they've heard b/c it doesnt suit what they want to hear, but yet if AICN, which is about 1000 steps below Variiety on the credibility meter, does virtually the same thing and pulls out the good ole "unnamed mole" than its accepted as God's honest truth solely b/c its what they want to hear.



^^^^ its fun to hear rumors and some people WANT to believe something, even if it IS unconfirmed. I base my facts on CONFIRMED facts. And if more than one website posts the same rumor from other sources, then it gives the rumor more of a credibility.

Everything I've heard for the future of Superman on the big screen have had different "sources" and "insider scoops". Some websites just repeat what others report.

[triplet]

I dont believe his casting has been "confirmed" yet, all I heard were rumors.

He was in "American Gangster" if you've seen it?

He was good in that, but that wasn't a very big part...

[Mikelus]

Some people want to believe what suits their agenda, any unofficial information should be taken with a grain of salt, that's the smart thing to do. ;)

[Gmanofsteel]

It means if I can fool Latino Review, ANYBODY can.

LR does have credible sources though, they were first to break the info that *he who will not be named* was cast for SR.

[Gmanofsteel]

:D

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/latinoreviewprank.jpg

Ahh..that was a fun day. :hehe:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n28/MikeD202/30truck6.gif

Latino Review...:down:

har de har har

now go punk AICN

[Billy Batson]

I haven't seen him in anything, so I really don't have an opinion on him one way or another. That said, I haven't seen too much opposition to him - unlike actors like DJ Cotrona LOL - so if he works for you and others, rock on! That works for me. :D


Check him out in Smokin' Aces, Common is real smooth with the ladies.
The Shayera Hol and Jon Stewart romantic scenes will be very steamy.
(http://www.amazon.com/Smokin-Aces-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000MEYJB0/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199590173&sr=8-2)

(http://www.amazon.com/Smokin-Aces-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000MEYJB0/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199590173&sr=8-2)

[Syncos]

Wait! Hang on... I'll e-mail Moviehole and everybody will swear Danny DiVito is the next Superman. :p

Folks, Welling may never EVER wear the Superman outfit. Not in SV. Not a stand-alone Superman film. Not in JL. That is totally up in the air - no pun intended. But my opinion on the Routh topic has nothing to do with Welling. Just wanted to get that out of the way before continuing...

Routh IS done as Superman, people. End of story. Finito. No more. History. Godspeed to him. He's done with Superman. That one you can take to the bank.

She doesn't know that she is just hoping he is out so Welling can take over which there is nothing wrong with that.

Methinks you read the wrong part of her post, before jumping to conclusions.

[Migu-EL]

I'm enjoying the circus from this point of view.:word:

[TWistim]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think there's a lot of truth to...

Welling being Warner's first choice for Superman post SR
Him being offered the role
Him accepting the role
G&M putting the kibosh on his being cast due to...
Scheduling issues
Their not getting any production kick-backs
Deciding to wait to take Welling and Co. to their own Superman film
Warners waiting for force majeure so they can cast Welling anyway
JL not happening due to the strike <-- wait for it
Warners keeping Welling in mind for a Superman feature after SV ends
G&M, Welling and Co. still being interestedGood assessment of things from all we've read on boards and in between the lines. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

Originally Posted by mellyM
I don't need or particularly want an SV movie, I want Tom to graduate to the big screen and leave his tv days behind him, I thnk he deserves that. I love the show, but I don't particularly trust Al/Miles anymore, and after possibly 8 seasons, I hope they've said all they've needed to say.


My sentiments exactly! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[Syncos]

Check him out in Smokin' Aces, Common is real smooth with the ladies.
The Shayera Hol and Jon Stewart romantic scenes will be very steamy.


(http://www.amazon.com/Smokin-Aces-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000MEYJB0/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1199590173&sr=8-2)

I'm thinking that how much I loved the Timmverse Justice League will seriously diminish any joy I would get out of a live action film. Even if done relatively well. :csad:

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/news.gif


The Dominion Post
January 7, 2008

Weta triumphs in clash of the superheroes
By TOM CARDY

Weta Workshop's involvement in another blockbuster movie has been unmasked - the physical effects studio has beaten Hollywood to design and make the costumes for superheroes including Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and The Flash.

The costumes will be donned by a yet-to-be-named cast for the big-budget Hollywood movie Justice League of America, to be filmed in Sydney this year and directed by Australian George Miller of Mad Max and Happy Feet fame.

The film's Wellington-based American producer, Barrie Osborne, who produced Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings, confirmed Weta Workshop's involvement.

"They are doing all the costumes and they're doing a brilliant job," he told The Dominion Post from Sydney.

"A lot of people thought it would be too hard, that you can only make those things in Hollywood."

No budget has been announced for the long-awaited movie, which would bring together a range of superheroes including Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, the Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter and Superman.

Casting rumours include Adam Brody, of The OC, and rapper Common.

Weta Workshop specialises in physical effects such as costumes, props, models and movie sets, and Weta Digital does computer-generated visual effects.

Osborne said it was possible Weta Digital would also be involved in the film, based on the DC Comics series, but that would depend on the studio's commitments to other projects.

"George Miller has a great take on the material, so it elevates it to something that's not a comic-book movie," he said.

Osborne was involved in many Hollywood films, including The Matrix and Apocalypse Now, before working with Jackson on the Rings trilogy.

He has since become a New Zealand citizen and, while still living in Wellington, has been involved in many big film projects.

He was an executive producer on The World's Fastest Indian and Australian film Little Fish with Cate Blanchett, and is producing the joint Korean-American action film Laundry Warrior, starring Geoffrey Rush, which is shooting in Auckland.

"At the heart of it is a love story, but with a lot of action. It is an exciting film and a different kind of film."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4346075a1860.html

[AgentPat]

Okay, Mike just pointed this part out:

"At the heart of it is a love story, but with a lot of action. It is an exciting film and a different kind of film."

Well, THAT's interesting! That's totally new to me. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

[avidreader]

Okay, Mike just pointed this part out:

"At the heart of it is a love story, but with a lot of action. It is an exciting film and a different kind of film."

Well, THAT's interesting! That's totally new to me. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

You dont think that quote, refers to this part of the article.

He was an executive producer on The World's Fastest Indian and Australian film Little Fish with Cate Blanchett, and is producing the joint Korean-American action film Laundry Warrior, starring Geoffrey Rush, which is shooting in Auckland.

[AgentPat]

You dont think that quote, refers to this part of the article.Hmmm... could be?! Now I'm not so sure. :huh:

[Mike22]

Okay, Mike just pointed this part out:

"At the heart of it is a love story, but with a lot of action. It is an exciting film and a different kind of film."

Well, THAT's interesting! That's totally new to me. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

You know what would be really funny? If Miller actually did incorporate a very good and effective love story in this movie. We know he`ll get the action pretty good, but it would be such a added bonus if he also got a very good love story in there. That way he would prove that not only does he know how to make a proper "superhero" movie with the proper amount of action, but also show singer how to make a love story. Singer would probably die on the inside. lol

[Mig-El]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/news.gif

How do you find this stuff? hmm, I wonder who's going to post this news as their own find? Thanks Pat.

[AgentPat]

How do you find this stuff? hmm, I wonder who's going to post this news as their own find? Thanks Pat.Hah! This time, I decided to cross post it myself over on the JL forum and at BT's.

This one isn't NEARLY as cool as the Anne Thompson/Variety article though. Holy hell, did that article ever open up a can of worms the size of Mt. Saint Helens. :woot: :up:

[AgentPat]

You know what would be really funny? If Miller actually did incorporate a very good and effective love story in this movie. We know he'll get the action pretty good, but it would be such a added bonus if he also got a very good love story in there. That way he would prove that not only does he know how to make a proper "superhero" movie with the proper amount of action, but also show singer how to make a love story. Singer would probably die on the inside. lolTrue. Though I'm wondering if the love story reference really is about JL, as Avid queried?

But that's neither here nor there, 'cause if the film DOES happen (I'm keeping my fingers crossed, honestly, I am!), you KNOW it's gonna do gangbusters at the B.O. Seriously... Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman? All in the same freakin' film? C'mon! But of course, some people will probably still bash it no matter how good it is or how much coin it makes - especially if Welling ends up in it. :p

[triplet]

You know, the best action films have a love story at their heart...

Die Hard (John McCain and his estranged wife), Aliens (Ripley and motherly love for Newt), Terminator (Sara Conner and Reese), all the Spidey films (Peter and Mary Jane), etc...

If they find a way to make it into a love story, even if that part of it only takes up a very small part of the film, I think it would just be icing.

I wonder if Lois is being cast. A crazed superman fought all those phantom foes in the original OMAC storyline trying to protect, or avenge, Lois....

That would actually be awesome, that was one thing I think that story missed out on.

I would have liked to have seen Clark reunited with Lois at the end...

[Mike22]

True. Though I'm wondering if the love story reference really is about JL, as Avid queried?

But that's neither here nor there, 'cause if the film DOES happen (I'm keeping my fingers crossed, honestly, I am!), you KNOW it's gonna do gangbusters at the B.O. Seriously... Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman? All in the same freakin' film? C'mon! But of course, some people will probably still bash it no matter how good it is or how much coin it makes - especially if Welling ends up in it. :p

I think this movie will make a killing at the BO. Which is why I want Welling to do this movie. With the inevitable success of this movie, Welling will become the new "official" face of superman, and not just be knows as that guy that played Clark Kent.

[Mike22]

You know, the best action films have a love story at their heart...

Die Hard (John McCain and his estranged wife), Aliens (Ripley and motherly love for Newt), Terminator (Sara Conner and Reese), all the Spidey films (Peter and Mary Jane), etc...

If they find a way to make it into a love story, even if that part of it only takes up a very small part of the film, I think it would just be icing.

I wonder if Lois is being cast. A crazed superman fought all those phantom foes in the original OMAC storyline trying to protect, or avenge, Lois....

That would actually be awesome, that was one thing I think that story missed out on.

I would have liked to have seen Clark reunited with Lois at the end...

I really hope lois is in this, but sadly, I somehow doubt it.
I can only imagine how unbelievably awesome it would be to Watch Welling kick ass left and right in this movie. The movie of the century.

[Mig-El]

If there is ever a love story in JLA, I doubt it'll be between Lois and Superman. Most likely, it'll be about Iris and the Flash. Still, I would think a love story between Supes and Lois is effective. Imagine the powerful scene of Lois being the only person who could bring back Superman to his sanity. :)

[ZIPBAGS]

I have been off the site for a week or so. Then I read about Emi's rumor and then Aint it cool. Can someone give me a recap???

[KBX]

If there is ever a love story in JLA, I doubt it'll be between Lois and Superman. Most likely, it'll be about Iris and the Flash. Still, I would think a love story between Supes and Lois is effective. Imagine the powerful scene of Lois being the only person who could bring back Superman to his sanity. :)

If there is a love story, its probably going to be Talia and Bats....

[AgentPat]

I have been off the site for a week or so. Then I read about Emi's rumor and then Aint it cool. Can someone give me a recap???Well Zip, it started here:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13692794#post13692794

Infamous_Emijayne began her comments at IESB starting here:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=5929&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=270#5877

Gas was added to the fire here:
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/brandon-routh-won-t-be-returning-as-the-man-of-steel-3579

Jayne comments further:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=5929&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=282#5891

Things got all kinds of silly after this:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35200

Everybody backpedalled after that point, except Jayne:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=170&func=view&id=5929&catid=13&limit=6&limitstart=306#5914

And here we are, Sunday evening. Given how much the poop hit the fan over the last three days, tomorrow might be an interesting day when offices open up in LA come the morning. We shall see - or hear. LOL ;)


PS: I'd be ecstatic to find out there was going to be a good love story at the core of JL.

[Gmanofsteel]

My newest Manip:

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wallpaper:

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[Gmanofsteel]

Made another manip

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[jayskate]

you know if Weta Workshop comes up with a great superman suit, which for me would be the classic colours , I could almost forgive them if Tom wasn't cast as the man of steel .

Of course casting Tom does has another advantage , no padding needed for the hero suit ... thats got to save a bit of money lol .

It would be cool if weta digital was involved in any city creations , I thought their 'New York' was pretty stunning in King Kong .

[RakuMon]

Okay, Mike just pointed this part out:

"At the heart of it is a love story, but with a lot of action. It is an exciting film and a different kind of film."

Well, THAT's interesting! That's totally new to me. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

Err... Osborne is clearly talking about "Laundry Warrior" in that quote. Check out the synopsis of the story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laundry_Warrior

[AgentPat]

Err... Osborne is clearly talking about "Laundry Warrior" in that quote. Check out the synopsis of the story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laundry_WarriorOh snap! :O

Ah vell. Thanks, Raku.

Very cool manips, Tomwelling4sups. :up:

[Mike22]

And here we are, Sunday evening. Given how much the poop hit the fan over the last three days, tomorrow might be an interesting day when offices open up in LA come the morning. We shall see - or hear. LOL ;)

Is there something I`m missing? Jayne also said that monday being somewhat important or something like that.
What happens tomorrow?
My newest Manip:

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wallpaper:

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OOOOOOOOhhh man, that was really good. Love it man, just love it.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif

[ZIPBAGS]

Agent Pat,

Thanks for the recap. So if I am reading this right. Their is a chance Welling still may play Supes in one of the movies??

[BenReilly]

So if I am reading this right. Their is a chance Welling still may play Supes in one of the movies??

Well, Latino Review is saying the actor who is cast in JL, will also play Superman in the next solo film. AICN is saying that the franchises will remain separate. Routh is still Superman in the solo series and a new actor will be chosen to play Supes in JL.

Either way, it seems Welling's only chance to play Superman is to land the Justice League gig.

[Syncos]

Well, Latino Review is saying the actor who is cast in JL, will also play Superman in the next solo film. AICN is saying that the franchises will remain separate. Routh is still Superman in the solo series and a new actor will be chosen to play Supes in JL.

Either way, it seems Welling's only chance to play Superman is to land the Justice League gig.

Doesn't matter too much if Man of Steel doesn't get made now, does it? :D

[BenReilly]

Doesn't matter too much if Man of Steel doesn't get made now, does it? :D

No, it doesn't but that's not the point.

[triplet]

Okay, this is emi's latest:



Okay...where do I start??

I did do some digging and though I haven't heard back from my friend yet, I have been told by a handful of people that Jay Baruchel will be a young Max Lord. One person however went against the grain and suggested that he is actually Flash and that Adam Brody was a false rumor. We'll have to wait and see on that one.

As for the constant 2010 comments, it is because this film was to come out after Man of Steel and no "official" announcement has been made postponing MOS yet. Thus, 2009 is still unofficial. However, it is being slated for early summer 2009 (in June if remember correctly).

Still nothing on the renewed negotiations with Welling. Still no comment from his agents as well. If WB feels they need one big fan favorite to ensure success, this has to be it. I can't see anyone else that has been rumored being a "fan favorite". And I just don't see a 6'8" Superman (Coudmore) and a 6'5" Batman (being 21 years old) working in any way at all.




http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=5951#5951

[AgentPat]

I wonder what Jayne meant by this:

"If WB feels they need one big fan favorite to ensure success, this has to be it."

Somebody refresh my memory; did Jayne hear that WB was looking for "one big fan favorite," or is she just speculating? :huh:

[triplet]

I wonder what Jayne meant by this:

"If WB feels they need one big fan favorite to ensure success, this has to be it."

Somebody refresh my memory; did Jayne hear that WB was looking for "one big fan favorite," or is she just speculating? :huh:

I was wondering the same thing...

:confused:

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think she just makes it up as she goes along...

[Syncos]

I think she just makes it up as she goes along...

Seconded.

[Serene]

I think she just makes it up as she goes along...


Totally possible. But you know what? I like her attitude and her tastes. :D
Besides, it's hiatus time, what else do we have to talk about?

[triplet]

Totally possible. But you know what? I like her attitude and her tastes. :D
Besides, it's hiatus time, what else do we have to talk about?

Quoted for truth!

:D

[AgentPat]

Totally possible. But you know what? I like her attitude and her tastes. :D
Besides, it's hiatus time, what else do we have to talk about?Bingo! :D :up:

EDIT: Wow. I think this means it's over kids. ;)

From Rob Sanchez over at IESB:


Justice League of America has Been Delayed!
Written by Robert Sanchez
Monday, 07 January 2008

Justice League of America will not start shooting as originally planned.

I get the emails daily from our readers asking what is going on with JLA, yes there has been an incredible amounts of delays and there wasn't much of answer coming from our sources, until today.

There hadn't been much of a slowdown as preparations were still underway over at Australia's Fox Studios as artists, set designers and other crew were busy prepping the film before the Holiday break but why hasn't the cast been officially announced?

"Justice League is indeed in danger of not starting production on time and maybe even getting scrapped altogether" is what a studio source told the IESB last week. "The concerns are that the script is not ready to go in front of cameras, and also that the budget is getting a bit out of control, the WGA strike has proven to be Kryptonite to Superman and friends."

So while the cast is apparently locked, the studio has had to go back to the actors and extend their holds. IESB was told that at least two high level studio execs headed to Australia right before Christmas to try to resolve these issues and get the film get back on schedule.

"George Miller really wants this movie to be way big but the cast is 100% unknowns," our source continues.

Another problem we are hearing is that some upper level execs including the new big boss Jeff Robinov is not too sure if the timing is right for JLA. Most of it has to do with the Nolan camp not being happy with the decision of moving forward with the JLA film considering the positive buzz surrounding The Dark Knight.

So what is going to happen? "The cast for Justice League is mediocre, the execs know it's mediocre, it's going to go down to wire on this one, this movie cold be huge but right now it's plagued with a couple of big issues and the WGA strike isn't making things easier," our source tell us.

So what's the final verdict on Justice League? I was having dinner this evening when I got a call from one of our moles over at Warner Bros. who told us, "Justice League has been pushed back to at least April or May and possibly a start date as late as June or July... that is of course if the movie doesn't get scrapped altogether."

So there you go, our first update of JLA of the year. On a side note, I was really pumped for this film last year but now I am waiting eagerly for the day WB decides to go in a different direction and cancels this production.

This cast does not inspire anyone and really makes you wonder if Warner Bros. is that desperate for cash that they would be willing to risk destroying a franchise in the making. We have all talked about the poor choices for Superman and Batman. Really? "C & D" list actors for the greatest Superheroes that have ever been created? With the exception of Adam Brody, Teresa Palmer and Common this cast sucks 100%. I have one question to everybody over at Warner Bros., how in the name of Zeus' butt hole did Jay Baruchel get cast as Maxwell Lord? Really? I mean, really? Skinny, dorky Jay Baruchel? Don't get me wrong, he's a great guy and a hilarious actor. He's great in Fanboys as the geeky friend...but Maxwell Lord? Ummm, I don't think so.

I'm done, I want to go slit my wrists the more I think about the **** that studios like to do in this town. It literally boggles the mind, well, what I have left of one.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4059&Itemid=99

[Lighthouse]

EDIT: Damn, Pat beat me to it.

[AgentPat]

EDIT: Damn, Pat beat me to it.LOL! I just saw it now. Crazy, huh?

I think that may end it. I've been *really* hoping for this film - hoping it would be great. Hoping Welling would land the role. Hoping for the best. But WAY in the back of my head, a nagging feeling has been bugging me about the big picture since November. And the strike put a pretty little bow on it.

So there ya have it. I hope Jayne likes crow. :oldrazz:

[JackMercy]

A-hem.

[clears throat]


Here's the part where I adopt one of SHH's once-common phrases...


...O RLY?


;)



Back to being an insomniac...


If you're nice, I might even clarify some ...err... previous menus for you...

:word:

[Mike22]

LOL! I just saw it now. Crazy, huh?

I think that may end it. I've been *really* hoping for this film - hoping it would be great. Hoping Welling would land the role. Hoping for the best. But WAY in the back of my head, a nagging feeling has been bugging me about the big picture since November. And the strike put a pretty little bow on it.

So there ya have it. I hope Jayne likes crow. :oldrazz:

You know what? Sanchez hasn`t exactly had a flawless record when it comes to JL. He`s been wrong before and I think he`s wrong now.
Remember back when he said Welling was out? Jayne kept insisting that he was in and Sanchez later confirmed that he was indeed still in.
I don`t trust Roberts sources anymore.
And if the movie has been postponed, then good, it`ll give Welling more time to work out and perfect his build for the movie, whether it be JL or a standalone movie, and neither are unlikely at this point.

[Serene]

LOL! I just saw it now. Crazy, huh?

I think that may end it. I've been *really* hoping for this film - hoping it would be great. Hoping Welling would land the role. Hoping for the best. But WAY in the back of my head, a nagging feeling has been bugging me about the big picture since November. And the strike put a pretty little bow on it.:

So.. no MOS, and no JL movie?

Hm.

It seems odd that they'd just drop both and walk away completely. Oh well, if this is true and they've moved shooting back that far, Tom is definitely off the list of contenders because of SV. Right?

My head is getting that spinny feeling again.

[AgentPat]

A-hem.

[clears throat]


Here's the part where I adopt one of SHH's once-common phrases...


...O RLY?


;)



Back to being an insomniac...


If you're nice, I might even clarify some ...err... previous menus for you...

:word:Hah! I *knew* you wouldn't be far behind, Jack.

So what's it gonna be? Pepperoni? Veggie Special? Pineapple? We're jonsing here. And even though I've already had my dinner tonight, I can *always* pack away another slice. Always. :D

[Ultimate_Superman]

So.. no MOS, and no JL movie?

Hm.

It seems odd that they'd just drop both and walk away completely. Oh well, if this is true and they've moved shooting back that far, Tom is definitely off the list of contenders because of SV. Right?

My head is getting that spinny feeling again.Tom is already off the list if he wants the whole cast to be unknowns. Which is stupid because you will need some what of a big name for this movie. Also if JL is a no go you can be sure they will then more then likely go with another Superman movie. The question is will it be a direct sequel to SR or a new type of movie much like the Hulk. IMO though Welling's only chance of playing Superman is if the WB drop Routh and hire him for the single movies. But if the reports are true that Routh is their (WB) man for the solo movies then that looks bad as well. Its sad too because I really wanted to see Welling in a Superman movie.

[Prison Mike]

So no JL? Meh. I stopped caring for this movie a while ago.

[zerohour films]

Well looks like Rob's out of hiding on the JL front. Now let's see who else picks up and runs with the story.

Didn't GL75 a few pages back or so mention that we would be getting some type of news around the time the college football champion was crowned? That game was last night and LSU won.

Have to find his post, but I thought he was referring to JL Cast news...interesting.

And Jack...com'on throw us a bone...or at the least a slice of pie? :cwink:

[Showtime]

Is Justice League over yet? Is it canceled? I am so tired.

[zerohour films]

This is basically her contingency plan similar to what Welling has cooked up. She's subject to the same "zero barrier" that he and the rest are with this. That time hasn't passed yet but its drawing nearer. At this point, I dont see how we avoid passing that. Unless the studio heads all have some kind of "Christmas Carol" dream in the next few nights.

Think right around the time the college football champ is crowned. Could be some very interesting announcements made right around that time.


Found his original post. It didn't refer to casting, just that an interesting announcement would be made around the time of the championship.

Like I said interesting that he mentioned this considering the timing of Rob's post and the game last night.

**trying to wait patiently for official news of some sort from WB**

[zerohour films]

Is Justice League over yet? Is it canceled? I am so tired.


Well if you believe Rob it is...

Who'd a thunk a Watchmen film would actually come to pass before a JL movie can get off the ground.

[Showtime]

Well if you believe Rob it is...

Who'd a thunk a Watchmen film would actually come to pass before a JL movie can get off the ground.

I don't pay attention to anybody at IESB anymore. Rob or Jayne.

I am better off getting info from MuscleforSupes.

[AgentPat]

I don't pay attention to anybody at IESB anymore. Rob or Jayne.

I am better off getting info from MuscleforSupes.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/muscles.gif

Anybody waiting for an "official" word from Warners about JL not happening is going to be waiting a very long time. Warners never said it WAS happening. So they're not going to draw attention to themselves by saying it's not.

Funny how I'm not seeing anybody bust Anne Thompson's chops anymore. Heh. Variety was right about JL all along. Thompson's right about the other thing too. *cough* To the person who asked me "how do I know?" There ya go. And UA's new pact with WGA is gonna bring something else to the surface shortly too, but that I admit to being just a hunch at the moment. :)

[triplet]

I don't know, I mean if they're waiting for Tom to get free of Smallville, it won't be at the end of the month, it'll be only once 5 weeks has elapsed since the end of production.

Then, if I understand the way the clause works, they will either have to put Tom back on full-pay or cut him loose.

If production stops the end of this month, that five week deadline for Force Majeure is either at the end of March or beginning of April depending on exactly when filming stops...

I don't think anyone should panic until someting concrete is announced officially. Right now all we have are more "knowlegable sources" (Jack included) and no official statements at all.

I mean, hell... the film isn't even officially on WB's production slate yet, right? They've obviously done some work on this puppy, got cast down under having costume fittings and sets are getting built, but no official word has come down, has it?

I don't know, I'm not believing anyone, not even Jack or emi until something more official comes down the pike....

Personally, I think Robert has lost his credibility at how he's jumped the gun on so many of these rumors that turned out later to be not true...

I don't think he's to blame but he's obviously bought into BS others tried to pawn off on him in the past, so how do we know this is any different?

My investment in this film is next to nil at this point, unless Tom is indeed in it and they can hire a better batman than a 6'5" 21 year old, so I'm not at all upset by this change in events.

If it gets made, it'll get made and I may see it whether Tom is in it or not.

However, if he is in it, I will be the first in line opening day and I will see it multiple times. They have to know that I won't be the only one so I still think they'd be idiots to NOT hire him.

Right now they have no one with any box office draw at all. I mean, look at what Starship Troopers had done.

They had a failry lame script but it had some great action but there wasn't a single bankable name in the entire cast.

They had Casper Van Dien, Denise Richards and Neil Patrick Harris as the most well known names.

Yawn and Yawn and Yawn....

That film cost $105 million to make but only made $121 worldwide. They should try to do whatever it takes to keep that scenario from happening again.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, but I'm not worried per se at this point... either it gets made or it doesn't, but they will be stupid if they go forward with this cast of unknowns they got unless they can land Tom.

If they get Tom, then maybe the others won't matter as much...

*shrug*

If they don't get tom, I don't see a whole lot of people going to see DJ Cotrona be Superman.

Too damn short and too damn skinny and that Jay Baruchel guy as Max Lord and 6'5" unknown model who's acted in only one thing really as Batman?

Yikes....

[The Incredible Hulk]

Force majeure would pretty much go out the window once the producers declare production over for the year.

It's not like they'll be ceasing production and waiting for the strike to end to see if they can resume this season where force majeure would hold everyone at bay for 5 weeks.

If (when) the show stops production in a few weeks, they'll know full well that thats it for the season and all the actors will be free to do as they please. Although none of them could officially sign to do anything in the time allotted in Smallville until the producers say "that's it."

[AgentPat]

Eh. For what it's worth - 'cause this poop is fun :D - here's Jayne's response:

If JLA as been officially delayed, the production assistant in Australia that my source spoke to yesterday doesn't know anything about it.

The news she's been trying to get me for Weds is of the cast. After seeing Robert's post today, I gave her a call and asked what was up. So she gave me what she got so far from those she was able to speak with yesterday.

First, the crew in Australia doesn't know about any delays. They are continuing to work and according to the production assistant, George Miller has said he plans to begin shooting in mid-Feb.

Second, the cast is not a 100% lock. She was told there have been issues with two declining a role, one backing out after verbally accepting, and seperate issues surrounding the roles of Superman and Wonder Woman.

Third, there have been concerns voiced by WB execs over the budget because of the lack of big name stars and the worry they could have another Superman Returns on their hands.

So there are reasons this could end up delayed but as of yesterday, nobody had been told in Australia. I'll let you know more as I hear anything.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&amp;Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=5964#5964

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well I think Emi credit is just as bad as Roberts IMO. How ever at this point I don't even care I just want another Superman movie. What the WB should do is take a page from Marvel build their Heroes up in solo movies first then do the team-up. Marvel may be jackasses when it comes to their comics (mainly Spider-Man :cmad:) but they damn sure know how to make a movie and build up to Avengers.

[AgentPat]

I gave it some thought, and I think I'm gonna post this one too. 'Cause it's on topic, it's THAT crazy, and I love watching people freak out. :p :D

The following comments were (apparently?) made a few hours before Sanchez's "It's dead, Jim" article from last night. It was posted by a completely anonymous person (aren't they all?) in the talk back section of "Singer's Superman Sucks." The radical language and extremely offensive homophobic comments posted at that site are out of control, so I'm not going to link to it, but it's not that hard to find. Anyhoo, here ya go...

LR is much closer to the truth than AICN. Singer is gone, he's basically signed on with UA full time now. He wont do any further Superman movies or even WB movies for the foreseeable future. Details of settling his "pay or play" deal with WB are being finished up. With that, Routh, Spacey, Bosworth and Co as well as the pseudo-Donner continuity are all gone with him. WB wants nothing further to do with that continuity. They want a complete reboot that stays truer to the post-crisis comics and will put butts in the seats (i.e. more action). They're paying attention big time to how the new Hulk does this summer as a barometer.

As for the new Superman, LR was right that it will likely be the guy that plays him in JLA, provided of course, that movie has the right profit %'s going for it. Welling was the original choice and some expected a deal to be made (right around the time IESB broke the story) but he couldn't get out from under the thumb of the show's producers, even though they were offered compensation, so he was nixed. A second candidate was agreed upon in some capacity shortly before the WGA struck. Its one of the other rumored names you've all heard (that I cant mention at risk of completely outing myself since very few people know this suffice it to say its a BAD choice). There was even a set casting announcement scheduled around Thanksgiving.

However once it became evident that the WGA strike was going to go for the long haul, this actor then in effect became "Plan B." The studio now wanted to play a waiting game to see how long the strike would last b/c if it goes past a certain point, Welling then shakes free of his commitment to the Smallville producers and WB feels they can snag him for the role in JLA and perhaps beyond without having to pay the Smallville producers a cent.

The whole delay in a casting announcement for JLA, which is now a little over a month away from beginning filming, is due to WB waiting to see who their Superman is going to be. "Plan B" guy is all set and ready to go and has even been on a training regimen and fitted for a costume at WETA. However, WB REALLY wants Welling because he's the more marketable name and has a large following the spans multiple demographics and will appeal to more fans.

The drop dead point for Smallville to cancel the rest of their season is fast approaching in the next few days. (Obviously the strike isnt ending anytime soon so thats more a "when" than an "if" at this point). Once that happens, Welling and the rest of the cast become free agents for the duration of the strike or if the strike ends than until late next July when an 8th Smallville season would start, giving Welling ample time to film the movie.

Granted, they still need to sign him once Smallville goes into hibernation but iIve been told WB isnt messing around and has a big time offer out there for him, as well as offers for other films to help alleviate any type-casting concerns. From what I was told, "he'd be an utter fool, to say 'No' that that."That's some heavy duty poop right there. :wow:

[zerohour films]

I gave it some thought, and I think I'm gonna post this one too. 'Cause it's on topic, it's THAT crazy, and I love watching people freak out. :p :D

The following comments were (apparently?) made a few hours before Sanchez's "It's dead, Jim" article from last night. It was posted by a completely anonymous person (aren't they all?) in the talk back section of "Singer's Superman Sucks." The radical language and extremely offensive homophobic comments posted at that site are out of control, so I'm not going to link to it, but it's not that hard to find. Anyhoo, here ya go...

That's some heavy duty poop right there. :wow:


In the words of Keanu Reeves....WOAH!

Thanks for the post Pat

Very interesting....da.da.daaaaaa!!!

[Gmanofsteel]

wow :eek:

[AgentPat]

Yeah. Nutty stuff there, huh? LOL :D

[zerohour films]

Yeah, and I really loved this part:

"Granted, they still need to sign him once Smallville goes into hibernation but iIve been told WB isnt messing around and has a big time offer out there for him, as well as offers for other films to help alleviate any type-casting concerns. From what I was told, "he'd be an utter fool, to say 'No' that that."

If this is true that's a hell of a thing for TW, huh? Talk about some security.

[TWistim]

That's a scenario I can get on board with so I hope like heck it's true. I would love to see Tom portray Superman on the big screen but I mostly want him to have a successful career which I can enjoy for years to come. With a deal that gives him other movie options it sounds like a great opportunity! So here's to keeping the faith and hope alive! :heart: :super:

[AgentPat]

Even if the whole post is utter BS, it's written very smartly. Unlike Motown's nonsense that he sent to Sanchez, there's nothing in that post that sounds completely ridiculous. It is in fact, very believable. Well, to me it is. Whomever wrote it has definitely been following both legitimate news as well as rumor. What gets me though is why post all THAT in such an obscure place? Does anybody really read there?

...well crap, I guess that theory doesn't hold much water 'cause I obviously saw it, so I must read there. Hah! Oh well.

Anyhoo, it's an entertaining read, ahuh. :grin:

[triplet]

Yeah, and I really loved this part:

"Granted, they still need to sign him once Smallville goes into hibernation but iIve been told WB isnt messing around and has a big time offer out there for him, as well as offers for other films to help alleviate any type-casting concerns. From what I was told, "he'd be an utter fool, to say 'No' that that."

If this is true that's a hell of a thing for TW, huh? Talk about some security.

That's a scenario I can get on board with so I hope like heck it's true. I would love to see Tom portray Superman on the big screen but I mostly want him to have a successful career which I can enjoy for years to come. With a deal that gives him other movie options it sounds like a great opportunity! So here's to keeping the faith and hope alive! :heart: :super:

Quoted for truth, squared!

:D

If he signs, they better give him options to do other films...

I love Tom, I think he's a great guy, not only is he sexy, he's smart and talented and seemingly a very nice guy.

He needs to get a good deal mostly because I think he deserves it for all that, but also because I'm greedy and I want to keep seeing him in something once Smllville is done.

:up:

Here's hoping the anonymous dude on Singer's superman Sucks blog is telling it like it is...

[Migu-EL]

Even if the JL movie is scrapped, I find it hard to believe that Welling wouldn't be cast as Superman if they decide to go forward with a reboot. I'd like to believe that the WB wouldn't make the same mistake twice. But who knows, these are the same guys that thought it would be a good idea if Batman's suit had rubber nipples.:ninja:

[AgentPat]

Can my head spin any faster? I think not!

A bit of an update...

My source spoke to someone else and let me assure you, it's no mole . This is copied from my email...

In response to being asked what the situation is and how it affects the 2009 schedule he said, ...even if the production date gets pushed back into April, they still plan for a mid-summer 2009 release. If it were cancelled altogether, there would be no tentpole for WB that summer. Mr. Horn is not about to let that happen in my opinion, nor would Mr. Robinov in his new position.

On the topic of casting he said, That is a subject I'd rather not get into. Things were a roller coaster ride regarding casting, but seem to have settled to my knowledge. I don't want to jinx anything by giving names or put my ass in the hot seat. There have been enough problems already.

So now, what exactly does he mean by a roller coaster ride and why specifically mention April?? I'm thinking some people know what is really happening and some might still be in the dark.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&amp;Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=5974#5974

[zerohour films]

Ok I can't take it anymore....

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6522/supesauditionss1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6522/supesauditionss1.9223087a44.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=511&i=supesauditionss1.jpg)


I admit it, the hold up is me. Screw my NDA--I'm talking!
Above is a clip from my audition for Supes...needless to say they LOVED it!! I got the part, the movie is delayed to give my legs time to heal and as soon as I'm out of this wheelchair and up and walking again:
YOU WILL BELIEVE A MAN CAN FLY!!!!
:woot: :woot: :woot:

Now we return you to your regularly scheduled rumors...

[Migu-EL]

If WB cans Justice League, what would be their big blockbuster movie for the summer of '09?

[Antonello Blueberry]

Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins.
Release date June 2009

[Migu-EL]

Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins.
Release date June 2009


Interesting....

Is that film green lit or is it in "Justice League" status?:huh:

[Serene]

Ok I can't take it anymore....

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6522/supesauditionss1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6522/supesauditionss1.9223087a44.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=511&i=supesauditionss1.jpg)


I admit it, the hold up is me. Screw my NDA--I'm talking!
Above is a clip from my audition for Supes...needless to say they LOVED it!! I got the part, the movie is delayed to give my legs time to heal and as soon as I'm out of this wheelchair and up and walking again:
YOU WILL BELIEVE A MAN CAN FLY!!!!
:woot: :woot:

Now we return you to your regularly scheduled rumors...

LMAO!

ZEROHOUR FOR SUPES! :D :up:

Is it insane that I'm getting a huge kick out of all this craziness? Maybe I need to cut back on the meds. :grin:

[RakuMon]

Interesting....

Is that film green lit or is it in "Justice League" status?:huh:

WB's officially announced the project, a director (McG) and a lead (Christian Bale). That's more than can be said about JLA. That movie's yet to be officially announced by the studio, and Miller still hasn't been officially announced as the director.

[Mike_D202]

Interesting....

Is that film green lit or is it in "Justice League" status?:huh:

LOL its been green-lit a long time ago. Christian Bale is playing John Connor.

[AgentPat]

LOL its been green-lit a long time ago. Christian Bale is playing John Connor....and starts principal in Budapest. In April.



Heh.

Hey 'Rene. Pass me some of them meds. :D

[Migu-EL]

WB's officially announced the project, a director (McG) and a lead (Christian Bale). That's more than can be said about JLA. That movie's yet to be officially announced by the studio, and Miller still hasn't been officially announced as the director.

LOL its been green-lit a long time ago. Christian Bale is playing John Connor.


Ohh....shows how much I know about what's going on in the movie biz.:csad:

[triplet]

Even if the JL movie is scrapped, I find it hard to believe that Welling wouldn't be cast as Superman if they decide to go forward with a reboot. I'd like to believe that the WB wouldn't make the same mistake twice. But who knows, these are the same guys that thought it would be a good idea if Batman's suit had rubber nipples.:ninja:

LOL!

Can my head spin any faster? I think not!

Nope, I don't think so...

I know mine is spinning pretty fast.

Ok I can't take it anymore....

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6522/supesauditionss1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6522/supesauditionss1.9223087a44.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=511&i=supesauditionss1.jpg)


I admit it, the hold up is me. Screw my NDA--I'm talking!
Above is a clip from my audition for Supes...needless to say they LOVED it!! I got the part, the movie is delayed to give my legs time to heal and as soon as I'm out of this wheelchair and up and walking again:
YOU WILL BELIEVE A MAN CAN FLY!!!!


Now we return you to your regularly scheduled rumors...

LOL!

:D

LMAO!

ZEROHOUR FOR SUPES! :D :up:

Is it insane that I'm getting a huge kick out of all this craziness? Maybe I need to cut back on the meds.

...and starts principal in Budapest. In April.



Heh.

Hey 'Rene. Pass me some of them meds.

Yeah, ditto.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I'm thinking they will only announce the movie when they have someone cast that brings credibility into the project. With the youngsters that were rumoured recently and no A-list name stars attached to it, we know that there is only one name that can be cast and bring credibility with it's target audience and more than anything bring the publicity they want to it since they won't be that stupid to announce the movie with only Miller and that ridiculous cast.
And if you don't know who that person is you must be living in a rock, because that's the guy who made this project be talked about even in websites as far as India. That's Tom Welling folks.
If they announce him as Superman along with Miller as director, people won't even remember who the rest of the cast is. Even they loathe the other actors , trust me they WILL come to see their guy (the one they spent the past 7 years grow up as a character and actor) become the Superman he already is in their hearts.
Even alot of SV haters have written that they would prefer to see Welling with the role.

[JackMercy]

Anybody waiting for an "official" word from Warners about JL not happening is going to be waiting a very long time. Warners never said it WAS happening. So they're not going to draw attention to themselves by saying it's not.

Funny how I'm not seeing anybody bust Anne Thompson's chops anymore. Heh. Variety was right about JL all along. Thompson's right about the other thing too. *cough* To the person who asked me "how do I know?" There ya go. And UA's new pact with WGA is gonna bring something else to the surface shortly too, but that I admit to being just a hunch at the moment. :)


Since we're in debate season, I'll respond accordingly.

To your point one: Aye.

To your point two: Aye.


Actually, it looks like you and I don't have anything to debate between us right now...

;)

[JackMercy]

Is Justice League over yet? Is it canceled? I am so tired.

So am I...

:word:

[JackMercy]

WB's officially announced the project, a director (McG) and a lead (Christian Bale). That's more than can be said about JLA. That movie's yet to be officially announced by the studio, and Miller still hasn't been officially announced as the director.

Yikes! Believe the words of the Raku!

:word:

[Mike22]

I'm thinking they will only announce the movie when they have someone cast that brings credibility into the project. With the youngsters that were rumoured recently and no A-list name stars attached to it, we know that there is only one name that can be cast and bring credibility with it's target audience and more than anything bring the publicity they want to it since they won't be that stupid to announce the movie with only Miller and that ridiculous cast.
And if you don't know who that person is you must be living in a rock, because that's the guy who made this project be talked about even in websites as far as India. That's Tom Welling folks.
If they announce him as Superman along with Miller as director, people won't even remember who the rest of the cast is. Even they loathe the other actors , trust me they WILL come to see their guy (the one they spent the past 7 years grow up as a character and actor) become the Superman he already is in their hearts.
Very nicely put.:up:


Even alot of SV haters have written that they would prefer to see Welling with the role.

The thing about the smallville haters is that a good bunch of them hate the idea of Welling as superman because they desperately want Routh to continue as superman. Bust ironically enough, when the justice league news came around and Welling was rumored as superman, a good bunch of these so called smallville haters that usually put Welling down, were the ones that insisted that if Routh wasn`t gonna do it, anyone else but welling in this movie would spell disaster for it. Now, certainly not all but I surprisingly found out that people aren`t really as opposed to Welling as superman as it might look. Usually they just put him down to piss of the Welling fans, and promote their choice for supes, which in their case didn`t really work out since he seems to be out.

[spark627]

LOL its been green-lit a long time ago. Christian Bale is playing John Connor.

i can not believe Christian Bale is doing that movie, he is way too good for it IMO

[zerohour films]

Since we're in debate season, I'll respond accordingly.

To your point one: Aye.

To your point two: Aye.


Actually, it looks like you and I don't have anything to debate between us right now...

;)


Aye Yie Yie!!

[JackMercy]

Like your avatar, ZeroHour...

:word:

[avidreader]

i can not believe Christian Bale is doing that movie, he is way too good for it IMO

What happened to the guy that played John Connor in the last movie? I liked him. :csad:

[zerohour films]

Like your avatar, ZeroHour...

:word:


Thanks, I made it last week. Felt it was kinda fitting given the present circumstances..

[JackMercy]

Thanks, I made it last week. Felt it was kinda fitting given the present circumstances..

Actually, if I were employed at a certain somewhere of interest, I might suggest that very idea as part of an interesting preliminary marketing campaign for a future film...

:word:

[AgentPat]

^ HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Lordy, lordy. :D

*cough*


\8/



Miss ya, Jack. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kiss.gif

[Showtime]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/muscles.gif

Anybody waiting for an "official" word from Warners about JL not happening is going to be waiting a very long time. Warners never said it WAS happening. So they're not going to draw attention to themselves by saying it's not.

Funny how I'm not seeing anybody bust Anne Thompson's chops anymore. Heh. Variety was right about JL all along. Thompson's right about the other thing too. *cough* To the person who asked me "how do I know?" There ya go. And UA's new pact with WGA is gonna bring something else to the surface shortly too, but that I admit to being just a hunch at the moment. :)

Obviously I know that you are most likely never going to get official word from WB of JL no longer happening, same goes for Superman Returns. However, I would rather pay attention to more upper crust movie news sites and reporters.

[AgentPat]

Obviously I know that you are most likely never going to get official word from WB of JL no longer happening, same goes for Superman Returns. However, I would rather pay attention to more upper crust movie news sites and reporters.Huh? Name me a movie news site more "upper crust" than Variety? C'mon Show.

[zerohour films]

Actually, if I were employed at a certain somewhere of interest, I might suggest that very idea as part of an interesting preliminary marketing campaign for a future film...

:word:

Given it's a little rough around the edges but maybe they could use this one instead...

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7849/supermanlogotwnl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What do you think Jack?

[AgentPat]

Given it's a little rough around the edges but maybe they could use this one instead...

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7849/supermanlogotwnl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What do you think Jack?Time Warner? Y'know, they might actually like that.

:p

[zerohour films]

Time Warner? Y'know, they might actually like that.

:p


You're right, didn't think of that...see it's destiny.:yay:

[AgentPat]

You're right, didn't think of that...see it's destiny.:yay:Only reason I "see" that in those initials and not the more obvious usage noted here is because I continually have to untranslate it in my head when I read industry news. LOL!

[JackMercy]

Time Warner? Y'know, they might actually like that.


Well, it has always been a nice in-joke for people...

;)

Nice going, Z, great for an in-house promo, but I think the question mark might be even more of an attention-getter for general audiences in the future...

[JackMercy]

\8/




This one is also particularly prescient...

:word:

[Serene]

This one is also particularly prescient...

:word:

*scratches head*

8?

As in: "I 8 some pizza?" :eek:

I crack myself up. No really, I do... :D

[zerohour films]

*scratches head*

8?

As in: "I 8 some pizza?" :eek:

I crack myself up. No really, I do... :D


Or maybe as in:

Ask the magic 8 ball

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7275/magic8ball3copyux3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[AgentPat]

This one is also particularly prescient...

:word:http://www.grubstreet.ca/images/carnac1.jpg


I try. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fly2.gif

[phil]

wow, what to believe? This has been torture since Aug. lol

[Docker2.0]

This is what I honestly believe: if Tom doesn't wear the cape, then this movie won't be made. I just can't see the new pres being crazy enough to throw money into this movie with the most mediocre cast since Tila Tequila's tv show.

[triplet]

This one is also particularly prescient...

:word:

You know, I'm not even going to try on that one.

*sigh*

[phil]

This is what I honestly believe: if Tom doesn't wear the cape, then this movie won't be made. I just can't see the new pres being crazy enough to throw money into this movie with the most mediocre cast since Tila Tequila's tv show.

Tiiiillllaaaaa!!!!!! LOL

Atleast we know they must be checking out our reactions. But what really puzzles me is Miller's choices for the cast (plan B). I would only want a director that would automatically think that these names were not good right off the bat for a movie with popular characters like this with a huge fan following! If he doesn't realize that these names don't cut it then how is he going to do all these characters on the bigscreen any justice?:huh:
If anyone of these characters are not believable with who's playing them it will become cheesy and bring the entire film down a level. And for Superman with his name alone people think of the main man, the top dog of all heros. If he's not believable it won't only bring the film down one level but many. That's a pretty big risk for a film like this! Actually I'm suprised that some of these names were even the slightest bit considered.
I really hope I'm wrong with my concerns.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well I think Emi credit is just as bad as Roberts IMO. How ever at this point I don't even care I just want another Superman movie. What the WB should do is take a page from Marvel build their Heroes up in solo movies first then do the team-up. Marvel may be jackasses when it comes to their comics (mainly Spider-Man :cmad:) but they damn sure know how to make a movie and build up to Avengers.

except that their two big guns weren't gang busters out of the gate. Batman was a mild success while SR was a mild disappointment. So WB probably isnt feeling too confident in their 2nd tier guys like Wonder Woman, Flash, GL etc. They likely figure a team up film has a higher likelihood of success due to the huge scope and novelty of it all. If that film does well and audiences seem to like the characters then maybe they go for solo projects. Truth is WB isnt all that confident in anyone but Batman at the moment.

As for doing things like Marvel, outside of Spider-man and the X-Men (both of whom wont be in an Avengers film) they've got a mediocre track record at best. If Iron Man and Hulk crap the bed this summer, (which i hope they dont as I love both) then you can kiss the Avengers idea goodbye.

[BenReilly]

As for doing things like Marvel, outside of Spider-man and the X-Men (both of whom wont be in an Avengers film) they've got a mediocre track record at best. If Iron Man and Hulk crap the bed this summer, (which i hope they dont as I love both) then you can kiss the Avengers idea goodbye.

Keep in mind though, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk will be the first two films that Marvel is producing and financing on their own. Their calling the shots on these projects, as opposed to previous films were the rights were licensed to other studios and the executives of those studios were in charge and made the important decisions, not Marvel.

[Mike22]

Tiiiillllaaaaa!!!!!! LOL

Atleast we know they must be checking out our reactions. But what really puzzles me is Miller's choices for the cast (plan B). I would only want a director that would automatically think that these names were not good right off the bat for a movie with popular characters like this with a huge fan following! If he doesn't realize that these names don't cut it then how is he going to do all these characters on the bigscreen any justice?:huh:
If anyone of these characters are not believable with who's playing them it will become cheesy and bring the entire film down a level. And for Superman with his name alone people think of the main man, the top dog of all heros. If he's not believable it won't only bring the film down one level but many. That's a pretty big risk for a film like this! Actually I'm suprised that some of these names were even the slightest bit considered.
I really hope I'm wrong with my concerns.

Exactly right.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gif the actor portraying Superman ABOVE ALL needs to really truly embody the part. He needs to look as though he just stepped out of the comic books both facially and physically. A lot of people undermine just how important it is to have an actor with a comic like appearance. Basically, strong cheek bones, a very strong jaw and chin, with a build that convinces the moviegoer that this guy is a very believable superman. People CANNOT start neglecting the physical for the sake of other things.
This is THE main reason why I never ever even came close to accepting Routh as superman. He sorely lacked the physical part, so in my mind everything he said and did just went right past me. I never once believed he was superman even though he did act like him, when he wasn`t stalking and all.

And I am a firm believer that Welling has the qualities that are necessary to successfully portray superman the way we all envision him. The acting abilities in which he has shown through years that he can play the part real well.Tall, dark hair, ice blue eyes, very strong facial features the personality and the mannerisms and an impressive build that screams superman. How ever great the actor that Miller chose for superman is, if he doesn`t look the part, he has already lost the battle. From the looks of it, Cotrona seems to be this guy, I mean, come on, he`s shorter than Dean Cain for the love of God.
Welling is the right man for this job, and considering that at some point superman will go rogue, Welling is a natural for this part, since he does rogue really really really well. Some of his very best performances is when he goes bad. And what a great opportunity for Welling to really show his range to the critics and the mainstream audience. If he plays his cards right he can become a household name, and this movie will be the start of what will hopefully be a successful movie career.

This looks like a job for the Welling.

[triplet]

Keep in mind though, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk will be the first two films that Marvel is producing and financing on their own. Their calling the shots on these projects, as opposed to previous films were the rights were licensed to other studios and the executives of those studios were in charge and made the important decisions, not Marvel.

I don't know if having Marvel ride rough shod over productions will automatically make them better.

Only time will tell.

[AgentPat]

OMG! BAHAHAHAHA!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/busted.gif



Um... Uncle Bingo, dude! :woot: Now that I know you're reading here, damn hon, POST here will ya?


[Pat waves back in Uncle Bingo's direction]



Guys, go check out that blog. We's been busted. :wow:


EDIT: Crap - I just read the part about IP tracking. Oh well. Guess I'm gonna have to drag my sorry ass over there. *pouts*

[Zing79]

links to blog...not going to go through the many pages trying to track down what this latest moment is about :)

[AgentPat]

links to blog...not going to go through the many pages trying to track down what this latest moment is about :)I'll PM you the link. Hang tight. :)

Just so folks know, I'm not posting the link here because SHH has a rule about linking to sites that break their policies, which I understand. And I don't want to take a weekend off courtesy dew. :o

Just go to the singer superman sucks site and click on the comments of the first blog item. (Right now, it's says "98 comments.") Then scroll to the bottom of the page of comments and look for posts from "Uncle Bingo." :D

[ZIPBAGS]

I would be happy with a Superman/Batman (World's Finest) team up movie. Off course with Bale and Welling. :D

[Docker2.0]

Pat!.............................................. ...I'm lazy. :csad: just post here what you want us to see.

[triplet]

OMG! BAHAHAHAHA!!! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/busted.gif



Um... Uncle Bingo, dude! :woot: Now that I know you're reading here, damn hon, POST here will ya?


[Pat waves back in Uncle Bingo's direction]



Guys, go check out that blog. We's been busted. :wow:


EDIT: Crap - I just read the part about IP tracking. Oh well. Guess I'm gonna have to drag my sorry ass over there. *pouts*

I don't understand what you're referring to...

:confused:

Uncle Bingo's final post?


Oh, by the way...

*speaks in a hushed whisper*

Pssst... Zing, if you want directions to that site, send me a PM....

[Serene]

Just so folks know, I'm not posting the link here because SHH has a rule about linking to sites that break their policies, which I understand. And I don't want to take a weekend off courtesy dew. :o

Just go to the singer superman sucks site and click on the comments of the first blog item. (Right now, it's says "98 comments.") Then scroll to the bottom of the page of comments and look for posts from "Uncle Bingo." :D

Yikes. I haven't checked that site out in a long time. The comments are... um, colorful. :wow:

Uncle Bingo makes a good point about the IP thing though. I guess if you really are a mole worried about being discovered, that is the kind of place to post at.

Curiouser and curiouser...

[Serene]

I don't understand what you're referring to...

:confused:

Uncle Bingo's final post?

She's talking about the comments under each entry. Be prepared for the air around you to turn blue.

Uncle Bingo has comments posted near the bottom - so you can scroll past most of it.

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL @ "Uncle Bingo"

Thats a reference from Batman 89 when the Joker kills one of the mob guys with a quill pen.

"Hello Vinny, it's your Uncle Bingo. Time to pay the check!" :D

[AgentPat]

LOL @ "Uncle Bingo"

Thats a reference from Batman 89 when the Joker kills one of the mob guys with a quill pen.

"Hello Vinny, it's your Uncle Bingo. Time to pay the check!" :DOh gosh! I didn't get that reference.

And I just posted there. Oh, boy!! :oldrazz:

It is quite a mind screw to see how this information spreads like wildfire.

I hope it's not all a farce though, 'cause ya know, he IS just an anonymous poster. Which is the point, I know, but this dude could be Lady M. for all we know. Lady M was VERY good at what he/she did. Seriously people; believe at your own risks. Just sayin'.

[Docker2.0]

Pat............post the thing you was talking about! :cmad:

[Showtime]

Huh? Name me a movie news site more "upper crust" than Variety? C'mon Show.

I'm confused...I am refering to sites like Variety? Where are we.

[AgentPat]

Pat............post the thing you was talking about! :cmad:What thing? From the sucks blog? I already said why I don't want to post it here. I'll PM it to you, and YOU can post it here. Then if they want to give you a weekend off, it won't be my fault. LOL

I'm just trying to follow the rules, Docker. You know how the Hype can be on this stuff.

Oh, btw, those posts found their way to IESB's boards now too. What's the deal? Does everybody read this thread but not post here? I thought we were in a nice quiet corner of the universe, but nooooo! This is freakin' Grand Central Station! LOL There seems to be a lot of lurkers here. LOTS of lurkers.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hmph.jpg

:p

[Showtime]

The Mods will ban you from posting an article from another site?

[KBX]

Who is Uncle Bingo? and does this dude have any credibility?

[Showtime]

No.

[Lighthouse]

The Mods will ban you from posting an article from another site?

CHUD almost did it to me.

[AgentPat]

The Mods will ban you from posting an article from another site?Well, here's the rules:

Excessive language is not tolerated. Inappropriate language is automatically filtered. Inappropriate context, however, is not, but still should not be used. Bypassing the filter may result in either a warning or automatic probation. Repeated violations of this rule may result in account banning.
http://forums.superherohype.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_new_faq_item_vulgarit y

Posting external links that contain material that breaks any of Superhero Hype!'s rules may result in a warning, probation or account ban. Posting links to other message boards may result in deletion of the link and a warning. Repeated violations of this rule may result in probation or banning.
http://forums.superherohype.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_new_faq_item_links

That kinda tells me the Hype would be pissed about a link to the talkback section of that blog. Read the comments there and you'll see what I mean.

BTW, my confusion was your response here:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13749772#post13749772

You ended it with a "however," which I interpreted as being in opposition to what I had posted, which was a reference to comments posted in Variety. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[AgentPat]

Who is Uncle Bingo? and does this dude have any credibility?He/she has no track record for providing information that has come true, so by that yardstick, he/she is just some schmo on the I-Net that might be posting from his momma's basement. Or he could be the real deal. Nobody knows, and that's the risk you take buying into *anything* that he/she says. The dude could be Lady M for all we know. And I tell ya, the way those posts are now spreading like wildfire on a dry day, I'm a bit nervous that this could all be another full-blown scam by Lady M. This has all of the trappings of what Lady M has perpetrated in the past. I'm not buying ANY of it until Bingo says something that actually happens - for real. No offense to Bingo, but I think that's a safe stance to take considering past experiences.

[Docker2.0]

This is what I honestly believe: if Tom doesn't wear the cape, then this movie won't be made. I just can't see the new pres being crazy enough to throw money into this movie with the most mediocre cast since Tila Tequila's tv show.

Just had to repost this. :o

[AgentPat]

FWIW Docker, I'd like to believe that someday he will - in a film - but I have no idea which film or when. I think Warners are fools if they don't throw money at Welling to do it, because he *does* have a built-in fanbase for playing the character, and that's worth something. If they're ignoring SV's existing fanbase for the reasons that Greg Noveck listed, then they're just dumb and deserve to fail.

[Showtime]

CHUD almost did it to me.

That is completely ridiculous.

Well, here's the rules:
That kinda tells me the Hype would be pissed about a link to the talkback section of that blog. Read the comments there and you'll see what I mean.

I think that website is a complete joke. I couldn't believe what passes as news nowadays. Maybe I'm getting old.

BTW, my confusion was your response here:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=13749772#post13749772

You ended it with a "however," which I interpreted as being in opposition to what I had posted, which was a reference to comments posted in Variety. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

My bad. I was kind of jumbled.

[RakuMon]

^ HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Lordy, lordy. :D

*cough*

\8/



Miss ya, Jack. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/kiss.gif

Ya know, if the CW knew how to promote its shows not named Gossip Girl or Top Model, they'd be smart to incorporate the \8/ when promoting SV's eighth and final season. Maybe a promo in which the \8/ morphs into the \S/?


Keep in mind though, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk will be the first two films that Marvel is producing and financing on their own. Their calling the shots on these projects, as opposed to previous films were the rights were licensed to other studios and the executives of those studios were in charge and made the important decisions, not Marvel.

The fact that Marvel is self-financing the movies is actually to its disadvantage. If either movie doesn't perform as well as hoped, it'll kill any future movies because Marvel doesn't have anyone else to offset the costs. Even WB had Legendary footing half the bill of SR to offset the the lack of... er... "returns" for Superman.

[JP]

Would you guys rather have Smallville or Welling in JL?

[RakuMon]

Honestly, I think it's time for Smallville to end and transition into Superman films, not necessarily JLA.

[Prison Mike]

yeah, I'd rather have a Superman movie with Welling than Smallville.

[Migu-EL]

Call me selfish but I want both.:O But since Smallville is coming to an end anyways, I guess I'll take a Superman Movie with Welling starring in it.:up:

[Bhoward]

Hey Pat, thanks for the mapquest. I originally thought it was going to be BT. I suppose I'm responsible for spreading Uncle Bingo's comments around the web. I hope this guy is legit. I'll send you a pm why I think he is.

[mellyM]

Would you guys rather have Smallville or Welling in JL?
a guarantee that I'd get to see that beautiful man on the big screen, 7 seasons is plenty. I know how it ends:)

[triplet]

Hey Pat, thanks for the mapquest. I originally thought it was going to be BT. I suppose I'm responsible for spreading Uncle Bingo's comments around the web. I hope this guy is legit. I'll send you a pm why I think he is.

Well, this corner of Smallville fandom is surprisingly sane, comparatively speaking anyway.

Hell, I write the episode reviews for KryptonSite and I don't hardly go over there if I can help it.

Anyway, welcome to the fold.

As for Bingo, his wording is authorative and seems legit. I guess only time will tell.

[triplet]

a guarantee that I'd get to see that beautiful man on the big screen, 7 seasons is plenty. I know how it ends:)

Well, if they didn't get to where they wanted to be by the end of this season I would like them to go an 8th, even a shortened one, but only so they can finish strong and go out on top.

After that they should really stop. We know where they are all going, it'll really start to get ridiculous if they drag it on any further.

I mean Clark is what? 21? He should move on from Smallville... It's time, he's everything Superman is except for the tights, he's ready.

If Tom can move onto playing Superman on the big screen, even better.

:up:

[TWistim]

Well, if they didn't get to where they wanted to be by the end of this season I would like them to go an 8th, even a shortened one, but only so they can finish strong and go out on top.

After that they should really stop. We know where they are all going, it'll really start to get ridiculous if they drag it on any further.

I mean Clark is what? 21? He should move on from Smallville... It's time, he's everything Superman is except for the tights, he's ready.

If Tom can move onto playing Superman on the big screen, even better.



Agreed! :up:

[RakuMon]

Has anyone read EW's cover story with Matthew Fox? If you're a fan of Lost, it's an interesting read.
But here's why I'm posting it here. As you may or may not know, the showrunners for "Lost" gave themselves a definitive timetable to end the show.
48 episodes. That's all that's left. So everything that happens from here on out is heading to that point. There's an endgame and everyone on staff knows it.

Here's the quote from the interview where Fox addresses the last 48 hours of Lost.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20169281_4,00.html
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: When the producers were pushing for a definitive end to the show, was that something you wanted too?
MATTHEW FOX: I was happy. Damon said it to me best once: ''It's like running a marathon and you don't know how long it is.'' If he has a story in his mind, how does he tell that story if he doesn't know how long the book is? I'm telling you, the story is going to charge and move rapidly in the next 48 episodes. One of the knocks on the show is that it hasn't moved fast enough. Part of that was because Damon felt like he didn't know when to let it go. Now he knows when to let it go.

As Smallville goes, everyone and their grandma knows how it will end. Unlike other primetime dramas, the people running Smallville should know what their ending is and how to get there. As entertaining as the last few seasons have been, I get the feeling, though, that Al & Miles are more concerned with keeping their franchise going indefinitely than telling the full, complete story.
Remember their "five year plan?" They never intended to go beyond five and were planning to go out with a bang that season. Then, something happened. Halfway through Season Five, the producers found out they'd be getting a second life (they were all but sure to be canceled before the season started).

A lot of the stuff that they've included since doesn't seem that necessary. Don't get me wrong. Everyone here knows I'm a champion for the SV cause, but you have to admit that even though there were cool and great episodes, there is the sense that Smallville started becoming less and less about how a young Clark becomes Superman and more and more about everything else.

I just want them to say, 'you know what, it's time to end this' and go out with that much hyped "launch sequence."
This is how I hope the strike will help the show. Let them come back for a truncated eight season. With an 8-10 episode season, each show can be epic and monumental, culminating in the money shot we've all waited 7+ years for: Superman to appear.
Then, transition into movies (be it JLA or a new Superman franchise). Either way, it's time Al and Miles took a page from Lindeloff and Cuse and realize it's time "to let it go."

[Bhoward]

Well, this corner of Smallville fandom is surprisingly sane, comparatively speaking anyway.

Hell, I write the episode reviews for KryptonSite and I don't hardly go over there if I can help it.

Anyway, welcome to the fold.

As for Bingo, his wording is authorative and seems legit. I guess only time will tell.

Thanks for the welcome Triplet. I've read some of your reviews, very good reads.

Yeah if nothing else Bingo comes across as he knows what he's talking about.

[Migu-EL]

Well, if they didn't get to where they wanted to be by the end of this season I would like them to go an 8th, even a shortened one, but only so they can finish strong and go out on top.

After that they should really stop. We know where they are all going, it'll really start to get ridiculous if they drag it on any further.

I mean Clark is what? 21? He should move on from Smallville... It's time, he's everything Superman is except for the tights, he's ready.

If Tom can move onto playing Superman on the big screen, even better.

:up:

Well said.:up:

[AgentPat]

Hey Pat, thanks for the mapquest.Hehehe! No prob. It's always nice to have new faces in "this corner of the web." :D :up:

I originally thought it was going to be BT.Well, I post there too. A lot of people do. But if I had to call one place "home," this is definitely it. This thread especially. :D

I suppose I'm responsible for spreading Uncle Bingo's comments around the web.It's easy to do. Kind of funny, actually.

I hope this guy is legit.I hear dat. As I've said before, it's all very...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/interesting.jpg

:D

Where's our buddy, GreenLantern75? Haven't seen him in a while. ;)

[triplet]

Thanks for the welcome Triplet. I've read some of your reviews, very good reads.

*blushes (hopefully adorably)*

:D

Thanks!

Yeah if nothing else Bingo comes across as he knows what he's talking about.

Yeah, he does and I hope he knows enough to sound so positive that the ball is now in Tom's court.

I hope they're throwing enough money and other films at him that he won't be able to turn it down....

He is so perfect for the part anyone else getting it would underwhelm, as we all saw before with whathisname...

If I were to be kind I might admit that he wasn't completely terrible, but he didn't hit it out of the park either.

We need someone better and also has a built in audience and some name recognition so that our favorite superhero can get a successful franchise launched.

Tom has that in spades.

He's the right choice on so many levels, I really hope Bingo and Emi are both right and Robert's wrong...

Well, if they didn't get to where they wanted to be by the end of this season I would like them to go an 8th, even a shortened one, but only so they can finish strong and go out on top.

After that they should really stop. We know where they are all going, it'll really start to get ridiculous if they drag it on any further.

I mean Clark is what? 21? He should move on from Smallville... It's time, he's everything Superman is except for the tights, he's ready.

If Tom can move onto playing Superman on the big screen, even better.

:up:

Agreed! :up:

Thanks!

Well said.:up:

Ditto!

[Mikelus]

RakuMon, AlMiles have stated in the past that they know how the show will end, now that Season 8 is the last one, they will "launch the sequence", no reason to be so negative.

From an interview on iF Magazine:

iF: Let’s say the CW decided to cancel you after next year, would you be able to essay into that last episode pretty quickly?

GOUGH: We feel really good about next season and I think we have eight seasons worth of stories to tell, but in the middle of next season, November, when we’re in episode 10 or 11. We have to know. Is there going to be eight, or are we done? Because if we’re done, we have to know, we have to start the launch sequence to end it.

[ZIPBAGS]

Can anyone PM me a link to Uncle Bingo? Appreciated!

[RakuMon]

RakuMon, AlMiles have stated in the past that they know how the show will end, now that Season 8 is the last one, they will "launch the sequence", no reason to be so negative.

From an interview on iF Magazine:

Wasn't trying to be negative.Like I said in my post, I'm one of the show's biggest supporters. My feeling is that I'd rather Al and Miles start implementing that launch sequence ASAP rather than keeping it as an "if the network decides to cancel us" pass.

I'm sure if they were given the option, they'd keep the show on indefinitely in one form or another. The fact that they were planning a Rosenbaum and Kreuk-less eighth season speaks to that.

[zerohour films]

Well it looks as if EmiJ is starting her own blog:
Here it is for anyone interested..


http://theinfamousemijayne.blogspot.com/

Link to original post (IESB): http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=6023#6023

Maybe Uncle Bingo will stop by for a visit to get the ball rolling.

"And so it begins...."

[Bhoward]

^This is great news.

*blushes (hopefully adorably)*


I'm sure!:cwink:

Yeah, he does and I hope he knows enough to sound so positive that the ball is now in Tom's court.

I hope they're throwing enough money and other films at him that he won't be able to turn it down....

He is so perfect for the part anyone else getting it would underwhelm, as we all saw before with whathisname...

If I were to be kind I might admit that he wasn't completely terrible, but he didn't hit it out of the park either.

We need someone better and also has a built in audience and some name recognition so that our favorite superhero can get a successful franchise launched.

Tom has that in spades.

He's the right choice on so many levels, I really hope Bingo and Emi are both right and Robert's wrong...


I'm really impressed how TDub has grown as an actor throughout the series. He really has earned the right to take the character to the next step. WB should give him the role just on principal. Its funny how everyone says BR looks so much like Reeve, I really don't see it, but I remember the reaction my wife and I had when we watched the pilot of Smallville. TDub's resemblance to CR was uncanny. At this point, if typecasting is still possible in this day and age, TDub is, but he really should embrace it as he will have fans forever, but there's worse than being typecast as an action star which would be the roles he would probably get after playing in such blockbusters as JL or a Superman reboot.

well here's hoping he gets and takes the part

[triplet]

Well it looks as if EmiJ is starting her own blog:
Here it is for anyone interested..


http://theinfamousemijayne.blogspot.com/

Link to original post (IESB): http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=6023#6023

Maybe Uncle Bingo will stop by for a visit to get the ball rolling.

"And so it begins...."

Awesome!

I'm glad blogspot exists so people don't have to pull punches like here and even on IESB.

I'm going to head on over to check it out after putting it into my favorites...

;)

I'm sure!:cwink:

Now I'm *really* blushing!

:D

LOL!


I'm really impressed how TDub has grown as an actor throughout the series. He really has earned the right to take the character to the next step. WB should give him the role just on principal. Its funny how everyone says BR looks so much like Reeve, I really don't see it, but I remember the reaction my wife and I had when we watched the pilot of Smallville. TDub's resemblance to CR was uncanny. At this point, if typecasting is still possible in this day and age, TDub is, but he really should embrace it as he will have fans forever, but there's worse than being typecast as an action star which would be the roles he would probably get after playing in such blockbusters as JL or a Superman reboot.

well here's hoping he gets and takes the part

So Quoted for truth it's not even funny.

You know, people used to bash me from time to time for being too easy on the show in my reviews but I think they mostly don't like how much I like Tom, but lately I've been getting those kinds of complaints less and less...

I think it's because the skills he has are becoming clearer to everyone. Sometimes he is just SO DAMN GOOD, Labyrinth and Splinter both prove how perfect he would be playing the crazy-ass supes that would be needed for an OMAC/Max Lord taking over Supes' brain storyline....

He plays crazy so well it'd be a crime if he didn't get this role. I'm not sure anyone else in the list of alleged Plan B actors have the chops he does.

*crosses fingers*

[Bhoward]

Well you know the internet is full of cynics and pessimists. So anyone looking positive at anything is going to be criticized and called bias.

There have been so many scenes this season where I sit back and smile because TDub really looks so iconically Superman with his chest out and shoulders back, only thing missing is the hands on the hips. The scene I love and hate the most, I forget the name of the episode, but when Cristina Milian gives him the cape and he's holding it right after Lana says she's not going to stand in his way of being a hero. Its like that's the moment he accepts his destiny, and then just as quickly he hangs the cape on on fence post like, nah. I think he did that scene so well. showing a change in a matter of seconds. that was a sign of good acting because it was so believable.

I think a lot of people are selling this guys acting skills way short.

[BenReilly]

The fact that Marvel is self-financing the movies is actually to its disadvantage. If either movie doesn't perform as well as hoped, it'll kill any future movies because Marvel doesn't have anyone else to offset the costs. Even WB had Legendary footing half the bill of SR to offset the the lack of... er... "returns" for Superman.

Financing their own movies is more of a disadvantage than being at the mercy of a studio? Couldn't disagree more. Sure, the financial risk is there, but putting the power back in the creators hands is a great thing.

[Serene]

Ya know, if the CW knew how to promote its shows not named Gossip Girl or Top Model, they'd be smart to incorporate the \8/ when promoting SV's eighth and final season. Maybe a promo in which the \8/ morphs into the \S/?

Brilliant. :up:


Would you guys rather have Smallville or Welling in JL?

Both. But I will be fine with SV ending if they do it properly. The worst scenario would be for them to drag it out way past it's prime.

Well, this corner of Smallville fandom is surprisingly sane, comparatively speaking anyway.
*snip*
As for Bingo, his wording is authorative and seems legit. I guess only time will tell.

Doesn't it feel like we're *always* waiting for something?



I'm really impressed how TDub has grown as an actor throughout the series.

Heh... "TDub." I like it. :D

Welcome to coalition headquarters, Bhow. :ninja:

[Bhoward]

Thank ya very much.

Didn't Elvis once do some work for the CIA or FBI

[Serene]

Thank ya very much.

Didn't Elvis once do some work for the CIA or FBI


I believe today is the King's birthday now that you mention it.

R.I.P. Elvis.

[avidreader]

Thank ya very much.

Didn't Elvis once do some work for the CIA or FBI

Not sure about that, but it was his 73rd birthday yesterday. :cwink:

[TWistim]

Wasn't trying to be negative.Like I said in my post, I'm one of the show's biggest supporters. My feeling is that I'd rather Al and Miles start implementing that launch sequence ASAP rather than keeping it as an "if the network decides to cancel us" pass.

I'm sure if they were given the option, they'd keep the show on indefinitely in one form or another. The fact that they were planning a Rosenbaum and Kreuk-less eighth season speaks to that.

I didn't find your post to be negative at all. In fact many fans share your concern. Whether they go another season or not I just want them to stay true to the original premise of the show and end it with a bang!

[triplet]

Well you know the internet is full of cynics and pessimists. So anyone looking positive at anything is going to be criticized and called bias.

There have been so many scenes this season where I sit back and smile because TDub really looks so iconically Superman with his chest out and shoulders back, only thing missing is the hands on the hips. The scene I love and hate the most, I forget the name of the episode, but when Cristina Milian gives him the cape and he's holding it right after Lana says she's not going to stand in his way of being a hero. Its like that's the moment he accepts his destiny, and then just as quickly he hangs the cape on on fence post like, nah. I think he did that scene so well. showing a change in a matter of seconds. that was a sign of good acting because it was so believable.

I think a lot of people are selling this guys acting skills way short.

Yep, they always do... I have no earthly clue why, he is just so damn good.

And that scene with the cape was in Action, btw. That moment was perfect and it depressed me no end.

Him walking away from who he was meant to be for some reason made me extremely sad, in more ways than I can even really articulate...

He played that moment so beautifully and then DP Glen Winter shooting that cape draped on the fence rail from such a low angle with Clark becoming smaller as he walked away...

*sniff*

So sad...

It's moments like that which make me forgive Smallville for almost complete dreck like Blue.

*shudders*




Both. But I will be fine with SV ending if they do it properly. The worst scenario would be for them to drag it out way past it's prime.

Exactly.

:up:



Doesn't it feel like we're *always* waiting for something?

So quoted for truth it's not even close to being funny....

:(



Heh... "TDub." I like it. :D

Welcome to coalition headquarters, Bhow. :ninja:

:D

Yep, I agree.

[ZIPBAGS]

There have been so many scenes this season where I sit back and smile because TDub really looks so iconically Superman with his chest out and shoulders back, only thing missing is the hands on the hips. The scene I love and hate the most, I forget the name of the episode, but when Cristina Milian gives him the cape and he's holding it right after Lana says she's not going to stand in his way of being a hero. Its like that's the moment he accepts his destiny, and then just as quickly he hangs the cape on on fence post like, nah. I think he did that scene so well. showing a change in a matter of seconds. that was a sign of good acting because it was so believable.

I think a lot of people are selling this guys acting skills way short.

You mean this?.... :yay:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3714/twactionkm9.gif
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8097/twaction2wy2.gif

[KBX]

When I look at whose clips again, how did Clark get his cape to stick like that, and what is with the random blue and red towel behind it?!?!?!

[triplet]

You mean this?.... :yay:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3714/twactionkm9.gif
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8097/twaction2wy2.gif

that still gets me misty eyed...

*sniff*



When I look at whose clips again, how did Clark get his cape to stick like that, and what is with the random blue and red towel behind it?!?!?!

They always have indian blankets hanging in the strangest spots in the show....

I think they just wanted a splash of color, so I'm not sure that means anything, but Clark walked away and getting so small as the cape loomed large while Glen craned down and zoomed out at the same time...

:heart:

I do love that man's photography.