Tom Welling as Superman

[Showtime]

Ditto.

:word:

Jack you mysterious bastard. I like your persona. :yay:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Moviehole just confirmed the same thing.

Heh. I remember when Moviehole "confirmed" IESB's story about the script too.. :D

[ZIPBAGS]

Well I guess this will open up the opportunity for a World's Finest Batman/Superman movie starring Bale and Welling. :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well, here ya go.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117979189.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

and there we have it....

Justice League...DEAD!

Man of Steel....DEAD!

Neidermayer...DEAD!

[triplet]

Stupid Bastards.

:down

Warner's couldn't find a good superhero movie with both hands and a flashlight....

:mad:

*sigh*

Oh, well... I guess we get more of Tom as Clark in Smallville to look forward to.

[Showtime]

Heh. I remember when Moviehole "confirmed" IESB's story about the script too.. :D

Touche.

Variety has spoken though.

[Showtime]

Oh, well... I guess we get more of Tom as Clark in Smallville to look forward to.

The way this movie was going, I don't think you would want Tom in there anyway.

[triplet]

The way this movie was going, I don't think you would want Tom in there anyway.

True enough.

If they go for a summer or fall start, then no way can tom do it if they do an 8th season.

Stupid bastards.

Oh, well.... their loss.

[Gmanofsteel]

Warner Brothers you're a bunch of Idiots, pathetic.

[Serene]

Just when you thought we could take a breather from all this.... :D

Update from Emijayne:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5063936987078088610&postID=2448345432022606582


Some hope on the horizon??

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be doing laundry and packing. I can't help it.

Here we go...And this is a lot of stuff...

If, and this is still a big if, the strike is worked out within the next 3 to 4 weeks maximum, we will still see JLA begin in February. Not only that, the ONLY 2 cast members that have been held onto according to who I spoke with are Brody and Palmer, but it being kept a secret. (not anymore..hahaha) This would explain why they are the only ones being spotted in Australia. Everyone else opted out based on not knowing what was happening with production and with the possibility of the strike this summer, they wanted a more guaranteed job. WB is saving face by saying they didn't exercise the options.

What does this mean for Welling? Regardless of the strike ending in the next few weeks or not, Smallville is ending with episode 15. If WB hasn't terminated contracts for Smallville by then as they have with other shows yesterday, season 8 will not only be the end but it will be big. An idea has supposedly been floated to tie into the solo franchise using a concept by Miles Millar if, and only if, Welling agrees to the role.

Anyone else praying hard?? There are by no means any guarantees this will happen. It all rests in the status of the strike and whether or not Welling decides he wants to be filthy rich. I sure hope he listens to his friend.

January 16, 2008 6:55 PM

:joker:
Anyone else need a drink? I'm buying.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/26/dining/01drink600.1.jpg

[Paradoxium]

I know you guys like Tom Welling and all. But aren't some of you the least bit disturbed that they confirmed Armie Hammer as the JLA Batman.... when you consider Batman a major foundation of the story.......

[Gmanofsteel]

Just when you thought we could take a breather from all this.... :D

Update from Emijayne:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5063936987078088610&postID=2448345432022606582


Some hope on the horizon??

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be doing laundry and packing. I can't help it.

Here we go...And this is a lot of stuff...

If, and this is still a big if, the strike is worked out within the next 3 to 4 weeks maximum, we will still see JLA begin in February. Not only that, the ONLY 2 cast members that have been held onto according to who I spoke with are Brody and Palmer, but it being kept a secret. (not anymore..hahaha) This would explain why they are the only ones being spotted in Australia. Everyone else opted out based on not knowing what was happening with production and with the possibility of the strike this summer, they wanted a more guaranteed job. WB is saving face by saying they didn't exercise the options.

What does this mean for Welling? Regardless of the strike ending in the next few weeks or not, Smallville is ending with episode 15. If WB hasn't terminated contracts for Smallville by then as they have with other shows yesterday, season 8 will not only be the end but it will be big. An idea has supposedly been floated to tie into the solo franchise using a concept by Miles Millar if, and only if, Welling agrees to the role.

Anyone else praying hard?? There are by no means any guarantees this will happen. It all rests in the status of the strike and whether or not Welling decides he wants to be filthy rich. I sure hope he listens to his friend.

January 16, 2008 6:55 PM

:joker:
Anyone else need a drink? I'm buying.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/26/dining/01drink600.1.jpg

I'll have a rum please :D

[triplet]

Just when you thought we could take a breather from all this.... :D

Update from Emijayne:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5063936987078088610&postID=2448345432022606582


Some hope on the horizon??

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be doing laundry and packing. I can't help it.

Here we go...And this is a lot of stuff...

If, and this is still a big if, the strike is worked out within the next 3 to 4 weeks maximum, we will still see JLA begin in February. Not only that, the ONLY 2 cast members that have been held onto according to who I spoke with are Brody and Palmer, but it being kept a secret. (not anymore..hahaha) This would explain why they are the only ones being spotted in Australia. Everyone else opted out based on not knowing what was happening with production and with the possibility of the strike this summer, they wanted a more guaranteed job. WB is saving face by saying they didn't exercise the options.

What does this mean for Welling? Regardless of the strike ending in the next few weeks or not, Smallville is ending with episode 15. If WB hasn't terminated contracts for Smallville by then as they have with other shows yesterday, season 8 will not only be the end but it will be big. An idea has supposedly been floated to tie into the solo franchise using a concept by Miles Millar if, and only if, Welling agrees to the role.

Anyone else praying hard?? There are by no means any guarantees this will happen. It all rests in the status of the strike and whether or not Welling decides he wants to be filthy rich. I sure hope he listens to his friend.

January 16, 2008 6:55 PM

*sigh*

So, this means we're going to go through another year or more of speculating?

I'm not sure I can take that....

:joker:
Anyone else need a drink? I'm buying.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/26/dining/01drink600.1.jpg

Get me a double.

:ninja:

I know you guys like Tom Welling and all. But aren't some of you the least bit disturbed that they confirmed Armie Hammer as the JLA Batman.... when you consider Batman a major foundation of the story.......

Well, true but there were some rumors that his being Bats was just that, a rumor, but we may never know for sure if his was one of the options they let lapse.

[Lighthouse]

Sorry, but Emijayne keeps changing the story every time the news comes out. Not saying she's a liar, but I don't give her sources much credibility.

[Showtime]

Just when you thought we could take a breather from all this.... :D

Update from Emijayne:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5063936987078088610&postID=2448345432022606582


Some hope on the horizon??

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be doing laundry and packing. I can't help it.

Here we go...And this is a lot of stuff...

If, and this is still a big if, the strike is worked out within the next 3 to 4 weeks maximum, we will still see JLA begin in February. Not only that, the ONLY 2 cast members that have been held onto according to who I spoke with are Brody and Palmer, but it being kept a secret. (not anymore..hahaha) This would explain why they are the only ones being spotted in Australia. Everyone else opted out based on not knowing what was happening with production and with the possibility of the strike this summer, they wanted a more guaranteed job. WB is saving face by saying they didn't exercise the options.

What does this mean for Welling? Regardless of the strike ending in the next few weeks or not, Smallville is ending with episode 15. If WB hasn't terminated contracts for Smallville by then as they have with other shows yesterday, season 8 will not only be the end but it will be big. An idea has supposedly been floated to tie into the solo franchise using a concept by Miles Millar if, and only if, Welling agrees to the role.

Anyone else praying hard?? There are by no means any guarantees this will happen. It all rests in the status of the strike and whether or not Welling decides he wants to be filthy rich. I sure hope he listens to his friend.

January 16, 2008 6:55 PM

:joker:
Anyone else need a drink? I'm buying.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/26/dining/01drink600.1.jpg

Remember. There are no guarantees...

[Prison Mike]

I'm not believing anyone. Trust no one!!!

[Serene]

Oops. :O

[Serene]

Sorry, but Emijayne keeps changing the story every time the news comes out. Not saying she's a liar, but I don't give her sources much credibility.

I find everyone with "inside" information suspect at this point. It's all about the sideshow antics at this point.

Remember. There are no guarantees...

I think that's been clear from the beginning. :) Besides, many of us were here for the last casting war - we KNOW about the lack of guarantees, sadly enough.

Anne Thompson (of Variety) has made comment:

Justice League: Warners Abandons Cast

Wow. At Christmas it sounded like the studio was moving full steam ahead on Justice League. But the movie needed to start this week if it was going to make summer 2009 and the script wasn't ready. So the studio let the options on the young cast expire. The studio plans to make the movie eventually. For now it's another writers strike casualty.

[Lighthouse]

So can this movie still make 2009 if it's delayed till Summer? I would think not, but WB could always pull an X-Men 3.

[triplet]

A poster over on emi's blog said that it's probably the money more than anything.

The film board apparently decides the tax benefits its willing to provide a film on a case by case basis, that's crazy, but they hadn't decided how big a handout they were going to give WB for JLA.

The guy speculated that Warner's is using this delaying tactic to force a more favorable deal on th Aussie film tax board.

The last article I read on the film tax situation said that each film got reviewed on a case by case basis and got a different percentage back based on how "Australian" the film was. They were still debating JLA.

It could be they came back with a decision too low for WB, so JLA was canned. Or the tax board still hasn't made a decision and WB doesn't want to commit to start of filming until they know for sure. Or this is WB's negotiating tactic to raise the percentage. Putting a lot of film workers out of work, who then raise a ruckus to the government.


Sounds like they would get bigger kickbacks if the film were *more* Australian...

[Docker2.0]

WB doesn't know how to do a superhero movie at all. They were on the verge of ruining the Nolan Batma trilogy now this. WB sux! :cmad:

[Serene]

Sounds like they would get bigger kickbacks if the film were *more* Australian...

Allow me to make a suggestion (just for you, trip. ;))

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3162/supermanrcrq8.jpg

[triplet]

Allow me to make a suggestion (just for you, trip. ;))

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3162/supermanrcrq8.jpg

LOL!

:D

Actually, he's from New Zealand (his grandmother was a Moari indian) but he's lived in Australia most of his life so I guess he would count.

;)

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fatlady.jpg


Thank ZOD! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rip.gif

[Lighthouse]

and there we have it....

Justice League...DEAD!

Man of Steel....DEAD!

Neidermayer...DEAD!

Superman.....dead. :(

[AgentPat]

Superman.....dead. :(Au contraire. He's right here --> :heart:

And we get to see more of him starting the end of this month. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/happy2.gif

That's the one thing I've taken solice in, at least for now. 'Cause SV is still with us, even if CW does make us wait for it. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/glare.gif

[Lighthouse]

I think they should do another Death of Superman story in the comics, and the initials of the villain could be W.B.

[Serene]

Au contraire. He's right here --> :heart:

And we get to see more of him starting the end of this month. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/happy2.gif

That's the one thing I've taken solice in, at least for now. 'Cause SV is still with us, even if CW does make us wait for it. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/glare.gif


QFT!

[Showtime]

I think they should do another Death of Superman story in the comics, and the initials of the villain could be W.B.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/robinovhorn.jpg

[JackMercy]

Love those guys...

;)

[teh Puffy]

I think they should do another Death of Superman story in the comics, and the initials of the villain could be W.B.


How many times can they mess things up, and seem like nothing happens. The best thing outside of the Batman Franchise right now is DEADING THE JLA FIlm. I thank them for those reasons only. Outside of that, they are has beens and a joke when it comes to film and music.:hoboj:

[Pickle-El]

Sorry, but Emijayne keeps changing the story every time the news comes out. Not saying she's a liar, but I don't give her sources much credibility.

She's full of it, taking everyone for a ride, and now has a blog to keep spouting her 'after the fact news'.

I understand people wanting to believe what she's said, but to still keep hanging on her words?

I really hope the focus gets back to the next,final season of Smallville, and the show going out with a tremendous bang...Welling suited up, flying out of the Fortress.

[Showtime]

Now you're talking Pickle.

[Mike_D202]

Just when you thought we could take a breather from all this.... :D

Update from Emijayne:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5063936987078088610&postID=2448345432022606582


Some hope on the horizon??

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be doing laundry and packing. I can't help it.

Here we go...And this is a lot of stuff...

If, and this is still a big if, the strike is worked out within the next 3 to 4 weeks maximum, we will still see JLA begin in February. Not only that, the ONLY 2 cast members that have been held onto according to who I spoke with are Brody and Palmer, but it being kept a secret. (not anymore..hahaha) This would explain why they are the only ones being spotted in Australia. Everyone else opted out based on not knowing what was happening with production and with the possibility of the strike this summer, they wanted a more guaranteed job. WB is saving face by saying they didn't exercise the options.

What does this mean for Welling? Regardless of the strike ending in the next few weeks or not, Smallville is ending with episode 15. If WB hasn't terminated contracts for Smallville by then as they have with other shows yesterday, season 8 will not only be the end but it will be big. An idea has supposedly been floated to tie into the solo franchise using a concept by Miles Millar if, and only if, Welling agrees to the role.

Anyone else praying hard?? There are by no means any guarantees this will happen. It all rests in the status of the strike and whether or not Welling decides he wants to be filthy rich. I sure hope he listens to his friend.

January 16, 2008 6:55 PM



http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/webpics/Sylvia_Browne.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

She just needs to give it a rest....

[triplet]

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/robinovhorn.jpg

Love those guys...

;)

:confused:

Who are they?

[Showtime]

Horn and Robinov

[Showtime]

She just needs to give it a rest....

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/SHOWTIMESSTAMP.jpg

[triplet]

Horn and Robinov

Oh, gotcha.

She just needs to give it a rest....

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/IronGiant29/SHOWTIMESSTAMP.jpg

Yeah, well...

I can't fault her loyalty to Tom, but yeah... she probably should give it a rest.

[COMPO]

She's full of it, taking everyone for a ride, and now has a blog to keep spouting her 'after the fact news'.

I understand people wanting to believe what she's said, but to still keep hanging on her words?

I really hope the focus gets back to the next,final season of Smallville, and the show going out with a tremendous bang...Welling suited up, flying out of the Fortress.

I wonder if for like some of the next series Clark starts travelling. Like you know in Dragonball were tehy'd have episode before the actual story arc played out were they'd be off training or doing ****.

Like the season ends with Clark leaving for a while, after the troubles sorted out and then, comes back in like episode 2 or the next season after we've seen him helping people outside of smallville.





Hey, i can dream can't I :whatever:

[zerohour films]

Geez, what a kick in the pants this has all been.

Glad to see it's over for now. Time to get back to work I guess---aahh who am I kidding. :cwink:

[Action Jackson]

Check the SHH mainpage. Looks like the truth about the confirmed castmembers for JL is finally out.

Common - Green Lantern

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/ThesisPromotions/common-2.jpg

Megan Gale - Wonder Woman

http://www.earthsmightiest.com/images/news/moviestv/gale2.jpg

Armie Hammer Jr - Batman

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4017/armieed5.jpg

DJ Cotrona - Superman

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7693/djcotronava4.jpg

Adam Brody - Barry Allen/Flash I

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the_oc/Images/adam_brody_1.jpg

Zoe Kazan - Iris Allen

Anton Yelchin - Wally West/Flash II

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Anton_Yelchin/anton_yelchin.jpg

Santiago Cabrera - Aquaman

Teresa Palmer - Talia

Jay Baruchel - Maxwell Lord

http://www.pmpnetwork.com/undeclared/jaybaruchel.jpg


And that pretty much covers everyone...

No Cudmore, Welling etc

Emijayne, Uncle Bingo and all the rest have been straight up feeding their fans BS from day one.

Theres nothing else left to be said.

[Cmill216]

My gosh, what a terrible terrible cast.

[Showtime]

Awful.

[JP]

Sexalicious.

[Showtime]

Sexalicious.

:JPlicious:

[Mike_D202]

Maxwell Lord:

http://www.pmpnetwork.com/undeclared/jaybaruchel.jpg


WTF?!

[Showtime]

:Teen Titans:

[AgentPat]

:rolleyes:

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sockpuppet.jpg

[Docker2.0]

WTF! WB can't be this stupid!

[Showtime]

WB does not understand how to handle their vast catalogue of superheroes and present them via film how they should be potrayed, they were lucky with Nolan and Batman.

[Docker2.0]

You'd think they would be happy but they upset him with the Talia thing. They did the same thing with Donner and Superman.

[Showtime]

Now they are going back to him to save face.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Good Lord thats an awful cast. Looks like that cast list that SHH posted a while back was mostly correct.

[Showtime]

Good Lord thats an awful cast. Looks like that cast list that SHH posted a while back was mostly correct.

While I am not suprised, it makes me sad. They could have done this right.

[Cmill216]

Was the script that awful that reputable candidates turned the whole thing down, so WB were stuck with this lot? I mean, I'll still take Common and Brody, but everybody else is lower than Meh.

[NHawk19]

so out of curiousity what do the brothers warner have for the 2009/2010 movie season?

[Migu-EL]

I can't believe that was the real list.:wow: This most be a twisted joke.:hoboj: No wonder the movie got canned.:whatever:

[Docker2.0]

Was the script that awful that reputable candidates turned the whole thing down, so WB were stuck with this lot? I mean, I'll still take Common and Brody, but everybody else is lower than Meh.

The thing is WB was convinced this script was gold but can't seem to learn from past experience how to win over general movie audiences. They almost made GL with Jack Black, they made Catwoman, Steel and Batman Forever and almost made this! WTF! :huh:

[AgentPat]

Now they are going back to him to save face.Back to who? Nolan?

Yeah, okay. Whatever. I guess it's better than Singer.

Well folks, if Warners has "temporarily" shelved JL, I'd say kiss it good-bye. Miller will eventually leave, and with him, so will his cast. If any of what we've heard is true (script rewrites, cast not up to snuff, Aussie tax incentive and budget issues, etc.) Warners is back to square one. New director means new cast. I can't see Miller going to Canada.

On the bright side, SV is still rocking, despite its shortened season. Thank you, WGA. :cmad:

I expect WGA will come to terms soon, and with the DGA apparently getting matters settled early, hopefully SAG will too. Assuming CW doesn't go Chapter 11, I think it's a safe bet SV will be back for an eighth season come September. So as much as I wanted to see Welling in JL, I'm glad we still have SV, and I'll remain hopeful that something might come of the SV connection down the road.

:word:

[triplet]

How sad...

They clearly don't know how to make Superhero films and they just lucked out with Nolan's take on Batman.

They need to find a director that is like nolan: one that has vision and knows the characters and why they are the way they are, instead of another director that just wants to try to put his own spin on the characters.

There's a reason these characters have endured for so long, they resonate with people.... people find something in them to indentify with.

Casting is key, you can't throw just anyone in there...

Stupid bastards.

I woulda thought they woulda learned with SR and Batman and Robin and Catwoman. All films that were terribly cast, IMO.

Awful.

[Showtime]

Back to who? Nolan? Yeah, okay. Whatever. I guess it's better than Singer.


I meant for a 3rd Batman film, not JLA.

Well folks, if Warners has "temporarily" shelved JL, I'd say kiss it good-bye. Miller will eventually leave, and with him, so will his cast. If any of what we've heard is true (script rewrites, cast not up to snuff, Aussie tax incentive and budget issues, etc.) Warners is back to square one. New director means new cast. I can't see Miller going to Canada.

I agree. In my opinion this movie is canceled. If it isn't, you are going to see a different director attached who will change the script and pick a new cast.

On the bright side, SV is still rocking, despite its shortened season. Thank you, WGA. I expect WGA will come to terms soon, and with the DGA apparently getting matters settled early, hopefully SAG will too. Assuming CW doesn't go Chapter 11, I think it's a safe bet SV will be back for an eighth season come September. So as much as I wanted to see Welling in JL, I'm glad we still have SV, and I'll remain hopeful that something might come of the SV connection down the road.


Trufully I think its better for WB to carry Smallville: The Movie into a made for tv or straight to video. Straight to video would make a good chunk of change for WB.

[Docker2.0]

Smallville really needs to have him focus on his destiny instead of freaks of the week. He isn't any closer to wearing the cape than he was 3 seasons ago.

[Gmanofsteel]

"Warner Brothers is run by idiots!"

[triplet]

Smallville really needs to have him focus on his destiny instead of freaks of the week. He isn't any closer to wearing the cape than he was 3 seasons ago.

Oh, I disagree with that...

He's ready, he just doesn't want to think he is.

In Kara, he went to Jor-El to start his training, after all. But Lana coming back threw a wrench into those plans. He thinks he doesn't need to leave now...

Right now, he's his own worst enemy when it comes to moving on and leaving Smallville.

Clark deliberately walked away from his future when he walked away from that cape at the end of Action....

He will need to learn that was a mistake before he can move on.

[Docker2.0]

"Warner Brothers is run by idiots!"

You used the quote without my permission! :eek: Hello lawsuit! :hehe:

I am so disgusted with the WB! Who are the people who run it?! I remember a few years back they were really close to buying Marvel out. Had that happened.................:eek:

[Docker2.0]

Oh, I disagree with that...

He's ready, he just doesn't want to think he is.

In Kara, he went to Jor-El to start his training, after all. But Lana coming back threw a wrench into those plans. He thinks he doesn't need to leave now...

Right now, he's his own worst enemy when it comes to moving on and leaving Smallville.

Clark deliberately walked away from his future when he walked away from that cape at the end of Action....

He will need to learn that was a mistake before he can move on.
Let me clarify my answer: I think he's ready but Gough & Miller don't know/want to wrap it up.

[musclesforsupes]

Its offical I dont know what this project is doing now.


Here is the latest from Sancheese


Hey guys, I have about an hour window before I have to head out for a Star Trek press event that is taking place in Long Beach. Let me address a couple things before I leave.

I don't see it as vindication that JLA has been put on indefinite hold, I really want to see a great Justice League film but it wasn't happening with the current and multiple situations that took place in Australia.

I never doubted my sources including, and I will defend to proven differently, the tip about Tom Welling being offered to play Superman and the studios top choice late last year.

My source is not the "craft service dude" or a "make up assistant." I will tell you that he is 1 degree to George Miller. What happen with Welling? The studio will never go on the record, what we heard is the same thing that we have been reporting for months, the Smallville producers wanted a piece of the pie and it didn't work out.

What was wrong with the script? The script/storyline has alway been written as a spin-off of Superman Returns and Batman Begins. From day one it was alway expected that Bale and Routh would reprise their roles in this film. The story details that have leaked confirm it. Talia wants revenge for what Bats did to her father in Batman Begins.

When they realized that they had to recast the main two heroes of the film is when re-writes started, When Nolan, Bale and the rest of the Batman camp protested the storylines it forced major re-writes. The WGA striking was the first nail in the coffin.

Sure there are tax issues but the other major issues was that WB Execs including Jeff Robinov have is that they are not sold on this cast. They are playing nice by saying that they want the cast to comeback once production picks up again. That is 100% bull ****. Maybe a couple comeback but DJ and Baking Soda boy will not be back if they decide to move forward on this.

Does anyone think that George Miller is coming back? This is only an opinion and nothing confirmed but everyone at the studio level believes that he is gone.

If and when JLA get back into production I believe will be with a different cast, director and storyline.

The best thing that W.B could do is wait after Batman 3, TMOS, stand alone Green Lantern and Teh Flash films and then make a spin off movie. Give Bale lots of money, get Brandon to reprise the role, and get someone like Nolan/Singer to direct the film. Miller choices in the cast has made him lose credibility in my eyes.

Will TMOS happen before JLA? The word right now coming from WB is that a sequel to Superman Returns starring Brandon, with or without Bryan as a director, will happen as planned.

The Flash and The Green Lantern will now pick up speed and some our hoping to be able to finally introduce Wonder Woman on the big screen.

I really think that my "gag order" on JLA will finally be lifted from me by next week. Friends are flying back from Australia and I hope to be bring you details including the nifty things that I heard about everyones favorite Martian.

Any questions email me and I will make an effort to respond to all emails tonight or tomorrow.

We will continue to do what we do on a daily basis, break stories, do interviews and keep or fingers crossed that one day soon we get to see a great JLA film on the big screen.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=6124#6124


Well it says email him with questions, someone should ask him if Tom still has a shot...










Oh triplet?




Shout out :D

[triplet]

Let me clarify my answer: I think he's ready but Gough & Miller don't know/want to wrap it up.

Oh, yeah... that's true enough.

They're really stretching it out past when it really makes sense. I'm glad to see more of Tom but they need to let Clark do more supermanly type of stuff. Let him fly, get him back into journalism, show more interest in lois...

[triplet]

Oh triplet?




Shout out :D

You wanna a shoot out?

Okay, that I will do.

Get your six gun and I'll get mine and we'll meet on the WB lot and instead of shooting each other, we'll shoot the asses who clearly have no clue how to make a superhero movie that people will actually want to see.





Oh, wait......
















You said "shout" out, didn't you....

The answer is still no.

:ninja:

:D

[AgentPat]

They clearly don't know how to make Superhero films and they just lucked out with Nolan's take on Batman.I'd argue it wasn't just his take on Batman; it was the whole package. Great casting (real, believable actors), entertaining story (read: fun), music (new score!), effects, and a feel-good ending.

They need to find a director that is like nolan: one that has vision and knows the characters and why they are the way they are, instead of another director that just wants to try to put his own spin on the characters.There's a fine line here, and I confess I start shaking in my boots when that word "vision" gets tossed around. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't. And not everybody will agree with either. G&M have a vision, and I think it works well. They put their own spin on a character they didn't really know all that well when they started, but they hired people who did. But like Singer's "vision," not everybody will agree G&M hit the mark.

There's a reason these characters have endured for so long, they resonate with people.... people find something in them to identify with.

Casting is key, you can't throw just anyone in there... I totally agree. But I also think people are okay with just being entertained if it's a well done film - in this case, total popcorn. Personally, I would have preferred a more mature-looking cast simply because that would come off more realistic to me. I don't get the impression Miller was casting to type. A 5'8" Superman? I don't THINK so! So yeah, I'm glad that didn't happen.

I woulda thought they woulda learned with SR and Batman and Robin and Catwoman. All films that were terribly cast, IMO. I think the door swings both ways. Sometimes, it's the studio that has these grandiose ideas that something will sell, and they leave it up to the director to make it work. Other times, it's the director with the vision who causes all of the problems. It takes a lot of faith on the part of the studio to let the director run with his vision, which is probably why the studio is constantly hovering over director's shoulders in those cases. It's a fine line.

I meant for a 3rd Batman film, not JLA.Yes, I know. A 3rd Batman film directed by Nolan is better than a 2nd Superman film directed by Singer. JMHO.

I agree. In my opinion this movie is canceled. If it isn't, you are going to see a different director attached who will change the script and pick a new cast. Precisely. New director means new cast. The script may or may not be kept, but if Nolan has been the one pissing and moaning over it, than that too may be thrown out.

It's astonishing to me that this wasn't all worked out last summer. The hell?

Trufully I think its better for WB to carry Smallville: The Movie into a made for tv or straight to video. Straight to video would make a good chunk of change for WB.A SV DTV would make decent coin, but a motion picture followed up with a DVD release would make more.

Smallville really needs to have him focus on his destiny instead of freaks of the week. He isn't any closer to wearing the cape than he was 3 seasons ago.He won't wear the cape till the very last episode - assuming we see it at all - so being "close" to that point is something that can't be determined right now. It is in fact, irrelevant. How close he is at any given point is directly related to how many seasons SV goes, and that can't be known until we're looking back on the show after it's over.

[Showtime]

Yes, I know. A 3rd Batman film directed by Nolan is better than a 2nd Superman film directed by Singer. JMHO.

Most people feel that way.

Precisely. New director means new cast. The script may or may not be kept, but if Nolan has been the one pissing and moaning over it, than that too may be thrown out.

That is the way it is probably going down.

It's astonishing to me that this wasn't all worked out last summer. The hell?

WB FTW.

A SV DTV would make decent coin, but a motion picture followed up with a DVD release would make more.

I would say so.

[ZIPBAGS]

If those SHH casting choices are true. Then here is the casting director....
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/sby/sby206/blind-man-walking-with-the-aid-of-a-white-stick-~-stk204742rke.jpg

[The Incredible Hulk]

poor Armie Hammer. He's probably a pretty decent guy and everyone now refers to him as "Baking Soda Boy" LOL

The truly funny part is that he has no relation to the baking soda.

[Migu-EL]

poor Armie Hammer. He's probably a pretty decent guy and everyone now refers to him as "Baking Soda Boy" LOL

The truly funny part is that he has no relation to the baking soda.


He should be mad at his parents for naming him Armie when his last name is Hammer. WTF?:pal:


I kid I kid.:oldrazz:

[Prison Mike]

I doubt he cares that a couple people on a superhero site refers to him as "baking soda boy".

[LL2K2]

and there we have it....

Justice League...DEAD!

Man of Steel....DEAD!

Neidermayer...DEAD!

Yes, no, and maybe. That last sentence said that MOS was "uncertain." That's not the same as "dead." :dry:

[Docker2.0]

In WB language............................it's dead. :o

[KalKai]

Yes, no, and maybe. That last sentence said that MOS was "uncertain." That's not the same as "dead." :dry:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7903/facepalmkc8.png

More like, Maybe, ABSOLUTELY YES, (don't care).

Note. next "Superman" pic, which could mean, anything. :o

[The Incredible Hulk]

Yes, no, and maybe. That last sentence said that MOS was "uncertain." That's not the same as "dead."

whatever helps you sleep at night...



More like, Maybe, ABSOLUTELY YES, (don't care).

I'm guessing neither of you got the Animal House reference? :(

[C. Lee]

I'm guessing neither of you got the Animal House reference? :(

I got it. Did you ever hear the Animal House reference in Twilight Zone the Movie?

[Serene]

I know there's a lot of rejoicing about this film being canned, but I'm sad about the whole thing. Not that I wanted THIS film with THIS cast - but I wanted a great JL movie. I'm one of the few that doesn't believe that there's any good reason to establish all the characters in their own franchises before doing an ensemble piece. We've had a good Batman outing, and the Superman venture (SR) was... controversial at best. A Wonder Woman movie appears to have been canned before it ever got off the ground.

With the fickle nature of the movie going audience, I have to wonder if the boat will soon be sailing in terms of interest in iconic superhero movies. I think the time for a GOOD JL movie is now.

BUT, and I hate to lay the blame on Miller for this (when so many seem to blame the WB), but those casting choices were terrible. I could have lived with one or two of them, but come ON... IF they indeed pick this production up again, I hope they boot Miller and start from scratch. Yeah, I said it. :p


Oh, and how does Sanchez resolve these two statements as both being true? Am I not reading it correctly? Was Tom the top choice, or was Routh? He seems to be saying both at different times.


Here is the latest from Sancheese

I never doubted my sources including, and I will defend to proven differently, the tip about Tom Welling being offered to play Superman and the studios top choice late last year.

From day one it was alway expected that Bale and Routh would reprise their roles in this film. The story details that have leaked confirm it.

[ZIPBAGS]

and there we have it....

Justice League...DEAD!

Man of Steel....DEAD!

Neidermayer...DEAD!

Is that a Welling pin on your uniform?!?
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/mke/img/feb06/wheniwas02a_125.jpg
:woot:

[Gmanofsteel]

I remember a few years back they were really close to buying Marvel out. Had that happened.................:eek:

Then in the Spidey movies, Spidey's outfit would probably turn out way too dark, he'd get mj pregnant in the first film, he'd probably have blonde hair and a goatee too.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I know there's a lot of rejoicing about this film being canned, but I'm sad about the whole thing. Not that I wanted THIS film with THIS cast - but I wanted a great JL movie. I'm one of the few that doesn't believe that there's any good reason to establish all the characters in their own franchises before doing an ensemble piece. We've had a good Batman outing, and the Superman venture (SR) was... controversial at best. A Wonder Woman movie appears to have been canned before it ever got off the ground.

With the fickle nature of the movie going audience, I have to wonder if the boat will soon be sailing in terms of interest in iconic superhero movies. I think the time for a GOOD JL movie is now.

BUT, and I hate to lay the blame on Miller for this (when so many seem to blame the WB), but those casting choices were terrible. I could have lived with one or two of them, but come ON... IF they indeed pick this production up again, I hope they boot Miller and start from scratch. Yeah, I said it. :p


Oh, and how does Sanchez resolve these two statements as both being true? Am I not reading it correctly? Was Tom the top choice, or was Routh? He seems to be saying both at different times.He is saying that Welling became top choice once it became clear that Bale would not play Batman for this movie. Once again as I said the plain was to get both Routh and Bale. If one wouldn't do it then the other can't as well. Which is why the WB then turned to Welling.

[Ultimate_Superman]

and there we have it....

Justice League...DEAD!

Man of Steel....DEAD!

Neidermayer...DEAD!To be honest Hulk you can't make that statement when IESB is now saying that that movie is a go starring Routh be it Singer is directing or not.

[Showtime]

To be honest Hulk you can't make that statement when IESB is now saying that that movie is a go starring Routh be it Singer is directing or not.

Notice IESB is the only website reporting this.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Notice IESB is the only website reporting this.Correct you are really at this point I don't care if we get a sequel to SR or get SV: The Movie or a brand new Superman movie. I just want a good Superman movie that most fans can enjoy and really to be honest if we were to have something like that then you would have to take away SR and SV and just reboot with a brand new movie and a brand new Superman. Because to be honest the fan base for SV and SR is pretty much split right down the middle.

[Showtime]

Correct you are really at this point I don't care if we get a sequel to SR or get SV: The Movie or a brand new Superman movie. I just want a good Superman movie that most fans can enjoy and really to be honest if we were to have something like that then you would have to take away SR and SV and just reboot with a brand new movie and a brand new Superman. Because to be honest the fan base for SV and SR is pretty much split right down the middle.

I think you have to be careful who you believe at this point, look what happened with JLA. In regards to SV and SR fans being split, I think they can mostly agree on one thing, their hate for the rumor tornado that turned into JLA.

[The Incredible Hulk]

To be honest Hulk you can't make that statement when IESB is now saying that that movie is a go starring Routh be it Singer is directing or not.

where was that mentioned? :huh: Even if it was on iESB, I think I'll stick with the people at Variety.Trust me, no one is picking up Singer's mess like they did on X-Men. If he goes, that whole awful continuity and Routh's ugly mug goes with him.

[Zorex]

You're such a sweetheart.

[ZIPBAGS]

If they do make a Supes movie and they are foolish and don't use Welling. Then I can deal with Routh under these circumstances....No Singer and a reboot. With Lex as corporate villain and no kid. :)

[The Incredible Hulk]

You're such a sweetheart.


I'm a kinder, gentler Hulk. Its my New Year's resolution ;)

[The Joker_1000]

So, what's new with you guys? What's been the major discussions going on in this thread since I left?

[RakuMon]

Hmmm.... Here's a very interesting comment someone posted at Newsarama:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/01/16/justice-league-film-shelved/#comment-262675
This movie was only meant to delay the sequel for Superman Returns long enough for Singer & company to leave the project. Mission accomplished.

Coming soon: News of a Superman movie reboot.

Comment by Beheader — January 16, 2008 @ 10:59 pm


That makes a lot of sense, no?

[Ultimate_Superman]

Hmmm.... Here's a very interesting comment someone posted at Newsarama:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/01/16/justice-league-film-shelved/#comment-262675


That makes a lot of sense, no?Well yes and no because everything we've been hearing has stated that Singer's MOS was still in the works or just on hold till after the strike or till after JL. We as fans assumed MOS was dead because the WB went with JL over a sequel first but really in almost all blogs it has been stated as I said before on hold till after JL and the writers strike. So that being said Singer's MOS still could happen. I would prefer a reboot myself with a whole new Superman (No Routh, No Welling) so that way the WB can make a movie that both the fans of SR and SV can be pleased with much like Batman Begins but that doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon. So I am perfectly happy if SR does get a sequel because I enjoyed that too.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

A new Superman without Welling ?
I'll probably take a lot of heat for this but I'm gonna say it anyway. Like somebody once said in here: "you can't make a Superman movie without Superman in it."
And if Warner doesn't realize this very soon they will once again have another faillure in their hands if they don't make Welling the offer of his lifetime to do the reboot and/or JLA.
That's who most people want to see, not Routh, not an unknown - Welling !

[AgentPat]

Hmmm.... Here's a very interesting comment someone posted at Newsarama:
http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/01/16/justice-league-film-shelved/#comment-262675

That makes a lot of sense, no?Intentionally spend buckets of money on pre production labor and materials, hire a well-known director and producer, book the studio space, cast it, and fly everybody to Oz JUST to get Singer to leave when they could have paid him his director's fee and be done with it?

Nope. Not buying it. Warners wanted a Justice League film. Badly. But with the writers strike, not getting their 40% tax write-off, Nolan throwing a little hissy fit, and Miller's inept casting, they put the brakes on it. I'm sure there's plenty of other reasons, but we'll never hear about that stuff officially.

[Ultimate_Superman]

A new Superman without Welling ?
I'll probably take a lot of heat for this but I'm gonna say it anyway. Like somebody once said in here: "you can't make a Superman movie without Superman in it."
And if Warner doesn't realize this very soon they will once again have another faillure in their hands if they don't make Welling the offer of his lifetime to do the reboot and/or JLA.
That's who most people want to see, not Routh, not an unknown - Welling !No most people don't care if Welling is Superman or not just like how most people won't care if Routh is Superman or not. The people who care if Welling will be Superman is the SV die hard fans or Welling fans and the same goes for the people who want Routh. The only person who people will truly remember as Superman is Reeve after that it is anyone's game.

[Lighthouse]

Hmmm.... Here's a very interesting comment someone posted at Newsarama:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/01/16/justice-league-film-shelved/#comment-262675


That makes a lot of sense, no?

Complete bull****. As much as I'd like to see the Singer franchise go bye-bye, there is no way they spent millions of dollars to develop a movie to the point of almost shooting, just to delay an SR sequel.

[triplet]

Complete bull****. As much as I'd like to see the Singer franchise go bye-bye, there is no way they spent millions of dollars to develop a movie to the point of almost shooting, just to delay an SR sequel.

that does seem like a serious stretch....

Color me majorly skeptical.

[Serene]

Intentionally spend buckets of money on pre production labor and materials, hire a well-known director and producer, book the studio space, cast it, and fly everybody to Oz JUST to get Singer to leave when they could have paid him his director's fee and be done with it?

Nope. Not buying it. Warners wanted a Justice League film. Badly. But with the writers strike, not getting their 40% tax write-off, Nolan throwing a little hissy fit, and Miller's inept casting, they put the brakes on it. I'm sure there's plenty of other reasons, but we'll never hear about that stuff officially.

Agreed, it doesn't make sense.

I really am curious what was the actual dealbreaker for this movie. I believe all those things you've listed are cumulative factors, but was one of them the most convincing and insurmountable? Why go this far with it before pulling out the rug?

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well yes and no because everything we've been hearing has stated that Singer's MOS was still in the works or just on hold till after the strike or till after JL. We as fans assumed MOS was dead because the WB went with JL over a sequel first but really in almost all blogs it has been stated as I said before on hold till after JL and the writers strike. .

you must have selective hearing b/c the last things that have been said about MOS in any kind of reputable publication is that Singer is likely not returning and that Routh's fate would be tied to whether Singer came back or not.

Hmmm.... Here's a very interesting comment someone posted at Newsarama:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/01/16/justice-league-film-shelved/#comment-262675


That makes a lot of sense, no?

Actually, that makes no sense. It's WB's decision to proceed with a sequel or not, its not like Singer could force them to make it. All WB has to do to get out of making MOS is buy out Singer and be gone. Why would they waste millions setting up a fake movie?

[RakuMon]

Wow. Looks like I touched a nerve. Maybe because I forgot to put a smiley in my post? I wasn't implying this was the reasoning. It's just some random dude on Newsarama. I just found it amusing is all.

Sorry. :(

[ZIPBAGS]

I personally think it was Miller's casting choices that doomed JLA. If the casting choices are the ones we saw on SHH were real. Then Warner must have realized that they were absolutely horrible and used the writers strike to get out of it.

[triplet]

Wow. Looks like I touched a nerve. Maybe because I forgot to put a smiley in my post? I wasn't implying this was the reasoning. It's just some random dude on Newsarama. I just found it amusing is all.

LOL!

Yeah, a smilie woulda helped... like this one: :rolleyes:

:D

Sorry. :(

No worries, hard to read sarcasm in a post unless you include a smilie...

*affectionately ruffles raku's hair*

:D

[RakuMon]

Yeah. I just thought the notion that WB wanted to get out of an SR sequel so badly that they'd "fake" JLA was funny.

It also shows how much general fans disliked Singer's take on Superman.

[Ultimate_Superman]

The general public pretty much accepted and liked Singer's Superman. Well let me rephrase that the public was okay with what Singer did to Superman. Once again if Singer's Superman was as bad as most of you guys claim it was Alan Horn would not have okayed a sequel or given a budget (going off of the rumors) . The main problem with the WB had with the movie was that it didn't do Spider-Man numbers which is fair because at the end of the day it doesn't matter who many people liked it; it is all about the money. But I doubt you will hear people complain much about this movie as you see in here (these forums full of us comic nerds). The gereanl public from what I have seen pretty much looked at this movie like they did Batman Begins. Where no it is not going to make Spider-Man number or even X-Men numbers but that doesn't mean they didn't like it. Times have changed and well Marvel is now top dog and DC is second. Same with Superman and Spider-Man hell even before SR and BB Batman pretty much became DC flagship in sales and TV programs and Superman became second.

[triplet]

I don't know how much the general public "accepted" SR, US...

I mean, the film barely made money.... a lot of people that I know who saw it that aren't superman fans didn't like it, which explains the blah box office.

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/nervous2.gif

I see the groundwork for a major off-topic argument developing as we speak. C'mon guys, let SR discussion stay over yonder. Please? The LAST thing we need in this thread is another argument about THAT movie. :csad:

[Ultimate_Superman]

I don't know how much the general public "accepted" SR, US...

I mean, the film barely made money.... a lot of people that I know who saw it that aren't superman fans didn't like it, which explains the blah box office.
A lot of people I know did like it which but felt they should have loved it which is why I say SR did its job in terms of getting Superman back to the public eye (and yes the same could be said for SV or S:TAS) but as far as movie wise it did its job. I am not saying the general public loved it which is what I think the WB was shooting for but they liked it and accepted it. Which the same can be said for SV as well because SV like it or not pretty much gets the same reaction as SR which is why I also say I would vote for a reboot using a brand new Superman and new story altogether much like Begins and have a Superman we all can agree on which I didn't see happening anytime soon. But if the WB does go ahead with Singer's MOS or with a new director using the same story though what I think needs to happen in this movie is to have the public fall in love with Superman once agin much like how TDK is doing for Batman.

[zerohour films]

"OOPS! :)"

We may need some traffic control in here :woot:

[Serene]

^Counting down until that goes poof.

5...4...3...2...

:D

[zerohour films]

^Counting down until that goes poof.

5...4...3...2...

:D


Oops is that a no no?

guess I should have read all the fine print before posting. I'll take it down now.

[Syncos]

This roller coaster sucked. I want my money back :(

[The Incredible Hulk]

The general public pretty much accepted and liked Singer's Superman. Well let me rephrase that the public was okay with what Singer did to Superman.

Wow, you found time to poll every single person that went and saw the movie. Awesome :up: Is there any other insight that you can shed about what the general populace is thinking? Will it be Hillary or Barack?

Once again if Singer's Superman was as bad as most of you guys claim it was Alan Horn would not have okayed a sequel or given a budget (going off of the rumors) .

Actually Singer got a development deal for a sequel with an estimated budget.


The main problem with the WB had with the movie was that it didn't do Spider-Man numbers which is fair because at the end of the day it doesn't matter who many people liked it; it is all about the money. But I doubt you will hear people complain much about this movie as you see in here (these forums full of us comic nerds). The gereanl public from what I have seen pretty much looked at this movie like they did Batman Begins.

Any insights about the Republican side of the ticket? McCain? Mitt?

Where no it is not going to make Spider-Man number or even X-Men numbers but that doesn't mean they didn't like it. Times have changed and well Marvel is now top dog and DC is second. Same with Superman and Spider-Man hell even before SR and BB Batman pretty much became DC flagship in sales and TV programs and Superman became second.

:confused: when was the last time Batman had a real TV program? 1972? And no, don't even try to say the animated series had better ratings than Smallville..

[AgentPat]

This roller coaster sucked. I want my money back :(Sorry Syncos, the management won't allow it. However, they are offering replacement tickets for a different movie of your choice, provided it's not on opening weekend. The studios count every last dime of that revenue.

Heh.

Okay, something a little more serious - ridiculously so. I debated on whether to post this in the regular TW thread or here, but it's Superman related, so here I is LOL.

You guys think US censors are strict? Pah! Malaysia has the US beat by a mile. And then some...

KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has revoked, with immediate effect, the approval given to 8TV to air live or delayed telecasts of all concerts and entertainment programs.

It will also not approve any applications for live or delayed telecasts of any concerts and entertainment programs on 8TV for the next three months, effective from Jan 15.

CMC, in a statement released here, said the private television station had failed to adhere to its guidelines, when the station produced a live concert to mark its fourth anniversary on Jan 13.

The "Rockin Birthday Concert" saw rock singer and television host Faizal Tahir removing his T-shirt to reveal a Superman logo painted on his chest, a gimmick which is based on that of Smallville actor Tom Welling.

CMC said Faizal's pre-meditated stunt was "insensitive" to viewers and Malaysian culture.

"It is a serious offense in a live entertainment program," the statement said.

Faizal is also not allowed to appear in any entertainment programs on private television stations, either aired live or pre-recorded, in the next three months effective Jan 15.

However, pre-recorded shows featuring him, which have been approved by the Censorship Board, can be screened on television

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/National/2136328/Article/index_htmlA "serious" offense? For a MALE rock star to perform shirtless? OMG! Mamma mia. I think I've seen everything now. Wow. :eek:

LOL!!




How cool is it though that even as far away as Malaysia, people would recognize the painted S on the kid's chest and totally "get" the connection. :p

[AgentPat]

^ And now ladies and gentlemen, we now take you from Malaysia all the way to Fiji...

The Fiji Times
Sunday, January 20, 2008

Environmentalist aims high
by FREDERICA ELBOURNE

Don't be fooled by the absence of an air-conditioning unit as you enter the office of the Director of Environment Epeli Nasome's office at Civic Towers. It's not a matter of conserving energy, he said.

"Just make do with the electrical fan in the corner."

As our two-hour interview unfolds, Mr Nasome an environmentalist at heart and one of the rarest of sincerest gentlemen around, apologizes for the lack of air-conditioning.

Here sits a man who given the chance would read comics all day particularly Superman, Batman and Spiderman. I laughed. The humour does not end there. Try taking him away from the television set on Thursday evenings and you may not get a very receptive man because Smallville just happens to be his favourite television show...

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=79077Reading articles like this makes me laugh out loud at the naysayers who would love people believe SV is just for teens and has at best, a 5 million per week viewership.

Can you say, http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bs.gif


:oldrazz: :word:

[Pickle-El]

We all know Smallville is seen around the globe and is a well known property to many, many people....no need to be insecure about it. :o

(waits to be slapped upside the head)

[AgentPat]

We all know Smallville is seen around the globe and is a well known property to many, many people....no need to be insecure about it. :o

(waits to be slapped upside the head)Well, you asked for it...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk2.gif

Now remember these things when you're arguing with the other groupies about how SV is a blip on the Superman radar worldwide. :)

[Prison Mike]

anyone who thinks Smallville is "a blip on the Superman radar worldwide" is delusional! Go Smallville!

[AgentPat]

anyone who thinks Smallville is "a blip on the Superman radar worldwide" is delusional! Go Smallville!I'll point you to the delusion next time I see it. ;)

[Serene]

^ And now ladies and gentlemen, we now take you from Malaysia all the way to Fiji...

Reading articles like this makes me laugh out loud at the naysayers who would love people believe SV is just for teens and has at best, a 5 million per week viewership.

Can you say, http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bs.gif


:oldrazz: :word:

Ditto. I love these articles and mentions the show gets from all around the world. I wonder how many Smallville related websites/blogs/journal/newsgroups/etc., there are out there? I mean ALL of them? Hmm...

[Bruce_Wayne29]

That's why some people including at DC and Warner snub Tom as Superman in a new movie. TV actors were always seen as inferior to their movie counterparts and they can't stand the fact that a tv actor could garner more support for this role than a movie actor (even a known one). They thought they (Warner) could throw millions of dollars and marketing into building their choice (like it was done in the past) especially if it looked like Chris and the people would just eat it up and Smallville and it's little actor would disappear into oblivion.
They thought wrong and payed dearly for it and will continue to unless they listen to what the fans want for once.

[AgentPat]

Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

YO! Zing! Answer your e-mail. :cmad:

Danke. :)

[JackMercy]

Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

YO! Zing! Answer your e-mail. :cmad:

Danke. :)



Can I answer it for him...?

;)

[AgentPat]

Can I answer it for him...?

;)Hahahaha! I dunno? I asked him to spill. :D

Given the context of the question, "spilling" probably has multiple answers in this case, depending on the individual. It's a pretty open ended question, after all.

So, how much can you spill? :p





(This totally cracks me up.)

[Zing79]

Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

YO! Zing! Answer your e-mail. :cmad:

Danke. :)

I've got no email from you....may I suggest you try a PM :)

[AgentPat]

I've got no email from you....may I suggest you try a PM :)You didn't respond to my last PM, which is why I e-mailed you. ;)

I'm gonna blame Canada on this one. :p

E-mailing again. Boards are about to go down...

[AgentPat]

TVGuide.com readers' picks for TV's fittest celebs:

#5. "[Smallville's] Tom Welling! He will look awesome in the blue tights someday…"

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/fittest-tv-stars-tomwelling4.jpg

http://www.tvguide.com/PhotoGallery/The_Healthiest_Stars_on_TV_1068/6.aspx

:p ;) :D

[avidreader]

TVGuide.com readers' picks for TV's fittest celebs:

#5. "[Smallville's] Tom Welling! He will look awesome in the blue tights someday…"

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/fittest-tv-stars-tomwelling4.jpg

http://www.tvguide.com/PhotoGallery/The_Healthiest_Stars_on_TV_1068/6.aspx

:p ;) :D

Yay!! Tom!!! :applaud

[SamuraiSon6]

^^great news, i know this thread isnt about her, but did anybody notice erica got #1!

[Serene]

^^great news, i know this thread isnt about her, but did anybody notice erica got #1!

ED's fans have been hitting that poll up big time.

Yay for Erica (it's all SV pub, after all) but I wish her fans would stand down when Tom's involved.

[AgentPat]

ED's fans have been hitting that poll up big time...http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif

I didn't even know about the one for Welling, never mind knowing there was an option for Durance as well. LOL When was that poll posted? And where? Wish I had known... :\

[Serene]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif

I didn't even know about the one for Welling, never mind knowing there was an option for Durance as well. LOL When was that poll posted? And where? Wish I had known... :\

I think it's been up for a while. I tried to vote (for Tom, of course!) but I couldn't remember my sign-in name or password for TVGuide. :O

[AgentPat]

I think it's been up for a while. I tried to vote (for Tom, of course!) but I couldn't remember my sign-in name or password for TVGuide. :OYeah but, was it ever posted here? You said Durance fans had been hitting it. How do you know that? Where was the poll posted by fans? 'Cause I would have voted too - for Welling, of course. ;)

[triplet]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif

I didn't even know about the one for Welling, never mind knowing there was an option for Durance as well. LOL When was that poll posted? And where? Wish I had known... :\

I never saw it either, and you know I woulda posted on tw.org.

:(

[Serene]

Yeah but, was it ever posted here? You said Durance fans had been hitting it. How do you know that?
Where was the poll posted by fans? 'Cause I would have voted too - for Welling, of course. ;)

I say that because I recognized several of the names on the comments. Besides, it's obvious with all those those types of things when the word gets out to certain fangroups. Jensen Ackles came up #3, and the Moonlight couple both made the list - just as they WON the "best couples" poll there. Now that's a loyal (and new) fangroup!

Hey, I pimp the Tom polls too when I see them... I did drop the ball on this one though. :O I believe it was at least a week ago when I first saw it posted in the TW forum on Sweet. I'd check the exact date, but the site is down right now. I hope it's not hacked again. That site is the biggest target of hackers of any I've ever frequented, I swear. *sigh*

[Cmill216]

but I wish her fans would stand down when Tom's involved.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this.

[Serene]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this.

I was mostly kidding. See what happens when I don't use smileys?

What I meant was that I'd always vote for Erica if I saw her in a poll... unless Tom was also in that poll. :D

[Cmill216]

I was mostly kidding. See what happens when I don't use smileys?

What I meant was that even though I'd always vote for Erica if I saw her in a poll... unless Tom was also in that poll

:applaud

[Serene]

:applaud

Thanks for quoting my WORST SENTENCE EVER. :mad:

:p

[RakuMon]

This is interesting. Apparently, the reason why Ryan Reynolds wasn't cast as the Flash in JLA was because he wasn't interested in their take on the character.

From Wizard:

RYAN REYNOLDS TALKS ‘THE FLASH’
The actor muses on the possibility of making the superhero movie with him at the lead

Posted January 23, 2008 12:00 PM

At a recent film junket for his new film “Definitely, Maybe,” Wizard caught up with Ryan Reynolds to see what’s what with a potential Flash movie and his feelings on wearing the red tights.

Interview by Jenny Peters

WIZARD: What is the situation of “The Flash?” Where are you with that right now?
REYNOLDS: I am nowhere with that, I read the Justice League script, and that wasn't for me. There is a solo Flash movie that Warner Brothers has. There is a script and all of these things. It's just something that I think they have to get together if they are going to want to do it, but it's something I've always been interested in so we'll see.

And it seems perfect. That is what everyone says on the Internet.
Yeah, who knows, but at this point there is nothing. The strike has just put such a damper on so many projects. I don't think anybody is thinking about anything except keeping their staff hired.

Are you happy in your place and where you are right now? I notice you are a little more cautious than you used to be about letting the crazy Ryan Reynolds show?
Yeah, I love to still do movies that are really at the outside of broad comedy but they are really hard to find. That is really a difficult thing to find. Working with Greg Mottola and some of the [Judd] Apatow gang you get to do some of that stuff in that world. It's a matter of funny. If I were to ever do “The Flash” or something like that, I think it would be one of the best uses of my abilities that I could ever find.

It’s good to hear that you’re still thinking about “The Flash.”
Always. You are always thinking about it, but it's a question of it happening before I'm a fossil.

Till you can’t wear those tights anymore.
Exactly, till I won't fit in the red unitard. Nobody ever really fits into a red unitard, lets be honest.

You have to have a deeper voice if you wear one of those.
Exactly, God I'll run with that.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/007354040.cfm

[Docker2.0]

That's what I been saying all along. All the big names who read it didn't want it cuase of the script but the execs of the WB loved it. The same WB who made Catwoman, Steel, and Batman and Robin. They just don't have a clue at all!

[zerohour films]

This is interesting. Apparently, the reason why Ryan Reynolds wasn't cast as the Flash in JLA was because he wasn't interested in their take on the character.

From Wizard:

RYAN REYNOLDS TALKS ‘THE FLASH’
The actor muses on the possibility of making the superhero movie with him at the lead

Posted January 23, 2008 12:00 PM

At a recent film junket for his new film “Definitely, Maybe,” Wizard caught up with Ryan Reynolds to see what’s what with a potential Flash movie and his feelings on wearing the red tights.

Interview by Jenny Peters

WIZARD: What is the situation of “The Flash?” Where are you with that right now?
REYNOLDS: I am nowhere with that, I read the Justice League script, and that wasn't for me. There is a solo Flash movie that Warner Brothers has. There is a script and all of these things. It's just something that I think they have to get together if they are going to want to do it, but it's something I've always been interested in so we'll see.

And it seems perfect. That is what everyone says on the Internet.
Yeah, who knows, but at this point there is nothing. The strike has just put such a damper on so many projects. I don't think anybody is thinking about anything except keeping their staff hired.

Are you happy in your place and where you are right now? I notice you are a little more cautious than you used to be about letting the crazy Ryan Reynolds show?
Yeah, I love to still do movies that are really at the outside of broad comedy but they are really hard to find. That is really a difficult thing to find. Working with Greg Mottola and some of the [Judd] Apatow gang you get to do some of that stuff in that world. It's a matter of funny. If I were to ever do “The Flash” or something like that, I think it would be one of the best uses of my abilities that I could ever find.

It’s good to hear that you’re still thinking about “The Flash.”
Always. You are always thinking about it, but it's a question of it happening before I'm a fossil.

Till you can’t wear those tights anymore.
Exactly, till I won't fit in the red unitard. Nobody ever really fits into a red unitard, lets be honest.

You have to have a deeper voice if you wear one of those.
Exactly, God I'll run with that.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/007354040.cfm


Yeah there was a debate about this in the JL forum. I do think it's very interesting. If the script was so beloved (even making the Blacklist this year) then what happened? Was it Miller's supposed rewrites that ruined it, or WB exec's wanted to go with yet another bastadization of their beloved characters?

With Beil turning it down, that other guy (can never remember his name--up for GL) saying it was too popcorn and now RR saying it wasn't for him.
Something is wrong with it.

And if it is Miller's rewrites mixed with his less than wonderful cast then I think it is a good thing it was shelved and that TW wasn't introduced to the world as Supes in it.

But what do any of us really know about the whole thing other than rumor and speculation.

You could write a book about all of this JL mess and probably have a best seller. Maybe they should just make a movie about trying to make a JL movie--it could be next year's sleeper comedy hit!

[Serene]

Yeah there was a debate about this in the JL forum. I do think it's very interesting. If the script was so beloved (even making the Blacklist this year) then what happened? Was it Miller's supposed rewrites that ruined it, or WB exec's wanted to go with yet another bastadization of their beloved characters?

Do we know that Miller did a lot of rewrites?

I have to wonder if part of why Reynolds said the JL script wasn't for him could be due to him preferring to star in a solo film as opposed to a big ensemble. It is a huge difference for an actor.

And if it is Miller's rewrites mixed with his less than wonderful cast then I think it is a good thing it was shelved and that TW wasn't introduced to the world as Supes in it.
Couldn't agree more.

But what do any of us really know about the whole thing other than rumor and speculation.

You could write a book about all of this JL mess and probably have a best seller. Maybe they should just make a movie about trying to make a JL movie--it could be next year's sleeper comedy hit!
I think we're sharing a brain today.
:D

[Ultimate_Superman]

The only way for Tom to be introduced as Superman IMO is by doing so in his own Superman solo movie.

[zerohour films]

Do we know that Miller did a lot of rewrites?

I have to wonder if part of why Reynolds said the JL script wasn't for him could be due to him preferring to star in a solo film as opposed to a big ensemble. It is a huge difference for an actor.


Couldn't agree more.


I think we're sharing a brain today.
:D


If we are then can I get you to finish my work for me...really not feeling it at the moment. :yay:

As to Miller's supposed rewrites. I don't believe there is any confirmation just another rumor in the pile. But it makes you wonder...what if the supposed leaked 14 pages that were such a joke were part of his doing and the other 'legit' script with the opening funeral scene, etc was part of the original draft. Eh, more things to speculate about.

Also good point that I didn't think of you mentioned was that it could be the ensemble film versus solo film issue for RR.

Oh well, when is SV returning....ready to get back to that and away from JL speculation.

[zerohour films]

The only way for Tom to be introduced as Superman IMO is by doing so in his own Superman solo movie.


Well, who knows. We may end up with that after all.
Needless to say, it's doubtful we will see Superman on film in the next couple of years in any form.
Which is unfortunate with the technology we have today to make a film that can really make you believe.

[The Incredible Hulk]

I have to wonder if part of why Reynolds said the JL script wasn't for him could be due to him preferring to star in a solo film as opposed to a big ensemble. It is a huge difference for an actor.


Didnt seem to bother him when he did Smoking Aces...

[Serene]

Didnt seem to bother him when he did Smoking Aces...
True, but that wasn't exactly a character with solo potential either.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

It could also be because they wanted him to play Barry and he dies early on.

[AgentPat]

I've been (sort of) taking a break from the boards as a result of the JL posting frenzy over the last few months. I've had my fill of debates about who was cast, vs. who should have been cast. Now I'm just tired. LOL

That said, I found the following exchange interesting. Somebody asked Craig, "...if the strike ends in February and TPTB do move forward and write more episodes this season, what will happen with KK in terms of her shooting that movie?" He responded as it applies to the entire cast:

I think all of the actors who have backup deals have them as just that - "backup" - and it will be in their contracts that their Smallville commitments come first. I know that's the case with a project that Laura V. might be taking on.

The only actor I'm truly worried about as far as coming back and other commitments is James Marsters. The events in #15 will pretty much require his immediate return; but if he's off filming the DragonBall movie, I don't know how possible that will be.So KK and LV have back-up deals hanging on the strike. Heh. Niiiiice. Makes ya wonder who else does. ;)

[triplet]

It could also be because they wanted him to play Barry and he dies early on.

Well, that's probably it but if he dies early there is little chance for Ryan to get a spin-off film unless it's a prequel...

I've been (sort of) taking a break from the boards as a result of the JL posting frenzy over the last few months. I've had my fill of debates about who was cast, vs. who should have been cast. Now I'm just tired. LOL

That said, I found the following exchange interesting. Somebody asked Craig, "...if the strike ends in February and TPTB do move forward and write more episodes this season, what will happen with KK in terms of her shooting that movie?" He responded as it applies to the entire cast:

I think all of the actors who have backup deals have them as just that - "backup" - and it will be in their contracts that their Smallville commitments come first. I know that's the case with a project that Laura V. might be taking on.

The only actor I'm truly worried about as far as coming back and other commitments is James Marsters. The events in #15 will pretty much require his immediate return; but if he's off filming the DragonBall movie, I don't know how possible that will be.

So KK and LV have back-up deals hanging on the strike. Heh. Niiiiice. Makes ya wonder who else does. ;)

Interesting...

[Docker2.0]

You guys know the actors are about to go on strike as well right? So when the WGA ends their strike we will still have to wait til another one ends. I don't understand why the actors are though. They get paid well and it doesn't make any sense.

[triplet]

You guys know the actors are about to go on strike as well right? So when the WGA ends their strike we will still have to wait til another one ends. I don't understand why the actors are though. They get paid well and it doesn't make any sense.

The directors settled, the actors usually go the same way as them so I don't think the actors will strike.

Their issues are more similar to the directors' ones than the writers' ones, anyway...

[AgentPat]

Hmm. This is interesting. Confirmation - sort of - that Warners was signing the JL cast for THREE films...

...While her runway relationship with DJs will come to an end following the retailer's Japanese story-themed Winter 2008 Collections launch, Gale will forge a lengthy pairing with film studio Warner Bros.

The leggy stunner has signed a three-movie deal with the company, starting with her role as Wonder Woman in Justice League of America.

"It's a big deal for me that someone thought I had the potential to generate box-office figures for not one, but three, films," Gale said. "It's pretty scary, but I just have to think they wouldn't have signed me if they didn't think I could pull it off."

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23103385-5012980,00.html

[Cmill216]

The leggy stunner has signed a three-movie deal with the company, starting with her role as Wonder Woman

Look at the wording of that again. I don't think they're referring to a JL three movie deal.

[The Incredible Hulk]

What's the matter Megan? Why the long face?


Oh... :o

[Serene]

What's the matter Megan? Why the long face?


Oh... :o

LMAO!

:shock

[musclesforsupes]

So anything new with Tom and JLA, Emi report anything lately?

[Ultimate_Superman]

JLA is on hold till after the strike. After that who knows what will happen.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Strike could be over by today...

[Ultimate_Superman]

really? where did you hear this?

[triplet]

There have been several reports that the strike may be over real soon... Talks have apparently been going well according to Ausiello.

Check out thes strike thread.

[Mike22]

Strike could be over by today...

There have been several reports that the strike may be over real soon... Talks have apparently been going well according to Ausiello.

Check out thes strike thread.

Oh please God let that be true.

I just want a good superman movie with the right guy in the lead.... is that so much to ask for?

[AgentPat]

Raise your hands if you thought JL was dead?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/no.gif

The Hollywood Reporter
Feb 7, 2008

Biz revving up amid peace talk
By Steven Zeitchik

STRIKE ZONE: Latest news and updates

NEW YORK -- With optimism spreading about an imminent resolution of the writers strike, film agents, producers and development execs are bracing for a barrage of dealmaking.

"It's started already," said one development exec, who like many sources spoke on background because the strike has yet to be settled. "Just in the last few days I'm starting to have more conversations. We're going to see a ton of spec scripts come in pretty much the second the strike ends."

Eager to plug slate holes and make up for three months of lost time, studios are expected to jump in and buy spec scripts from top-tier writers quickly and at high prices soon after the walkout ends. "It could turn into a feeding frenzy," said another studio exec.

One top agent cautioned, though, that striking writers haven't been as busy as some have claimed. Reports were called far-fetched that companies like United Artists immediately saw 2,500 scripts pour in when they signed interim deals

Still, others recalled that the 1988 WGA strike created a mad dash, though they noted that the spec script market was just evolving then. This time, studios are accustomed to buying spec scripts and could snatch them up faster.

While the WGA's strike rules allow the penning of spec scripts, they must be genuine specs. They can't be derived from any conversations, however informal, or any existing relationships between a writer and a struck company.

Many players on all sides of the spec market said that despite three months of pent-up anticipation, they would proceed with caution.

On the studio side, sources said they were not sure yet of the quality of available material because they have had few, if any, conversations with writers and their reps about their work during the labor stoppage. Some also were leery of agents who might try to push through projects that weren't ready.

For their part, a number of agents said that despite the potential for an easy paycheck, they didn't want to close a deal for their clients until they had a better sense of studio game plans.

"There's been so much change at the studios since the strike began," one agent said. "I want to get back to work and get my clients going again, but how much do I want (a client) to be the guinea pig?"

A number of studios have evolved during the past three months. Paramount has seen a shuffle at the top with the promotion of John Lesher; more ominously, a chilly air was blowing across New Line on Tuesday after Time Warner CEO Jeff Bewkes alluded to cutbacks. Several agents said they wanted a little more poststrike dust to settle before signing any big deals.

Film studios -- in a manner similar to, if more modest than, their television counterparts -- also have used the strike to rethink development.

"The good news and the bad news is that the strike has allowed studios to stop and think and say, 'Let's see how the movies are really performing,' " one agent said.

The prospects of those specs that do emerge after the strike could be affected by a number of other factors, though.

Studios that snapped up pitches by the boatload before the strike began are expecting scripts based on those pitches to come in soon after the strike is resolved -- though there could be some time lag because writers were not supposed to be working on such projects during the walkout.

Once those scripts are evaluated, the studios will decide which projects to fast-track, which in turn could affect how many new projects they decide to take on.

"There will be a lot of rummaging around to see what we really have," a studio source said. "I think a lot of people don't really know."

Movies in development or preproduction also will get a huge boost as writers get back to work and new scribes are attached.

Mark Johnson, a producer on Walden Media's "Chronicles of Narnia" movies, said a resolution couldn't come fast enough for the third movie in the franchise, set to start shooting this year. Johnson added that he thinks "the floodgates will open" for projects in active development or preproduction that need a little script help.

Warners' "Justice League," Columbia's "Edwin A. Salt" and the next installment in the "Fast and the Furious" franchise are expected to fall into this category.

Many in the development community also were expecting that with a three-month setback, not all material will be created equal.

"It's going to be about the finished script -- the truly finished script -- and the go project," said one agent. "There's going to be a feeding frenzy, but it's not going to be for all kinds of material."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i0a04b1d7f7560b572f36f4e2010144e4

[jayskate]

yikes ! i really hope they take a look at that cast along with the script before moving foward with JLA .

Ive just finished reading Superman vs. Hollywood: How Fiendish Producers, Devious Directors, and Warring Writers Grounded an American Icon by Jake Rossen. A great read , it did make me think that Warners struck gold when
Chris Nolan came along .

The money Warners spent and time in developing a new Superman movie was pretty staggering .Oddly from what we have been hearing about the development of The JLA movie, really does seem to echo Warners hit and miss approach to superhero movies .

[The Incredible Hulk]

thats a GREAT book. The part about Neil Diamond was unbelievable

[triplet]

thats a GREAT book. The part about Neil Diamond was unbelievable

I've been meaning to pick that up, sounds educational at the very least.

[Docker2.0]

I don't understand what is wrong with the WB? Superman did great when he wasin theaters during the Donner run, it wasn't until they got involved that it went down hill. I don't understand why theyhave to make Superman "relateable", excuse my spelling. :o Sad to say I don't think we will see a proper Superman movie for another 7 years. :o

[jayskate]

thats a GREAT book. The part about Neil Diamond was unbelievable

lol , unreal that they actually thought he could do the role. What made laugh was the part in the book where Nic Cage was filmed in the suit
and the test footage was screened before the powers that be at warners and they promptly curtailed any further flights for that version .

I thought the writer quite seemed to like Smallville .

[musclesforsupes]

So is emi still bloggin ?

[triplet]

So is emi still bloggin ?

Yeah, probably but you can always check her site to see what's going on over there...

http://theinfamousemijayne.blogspot.com/

Or are you just asking to bump this thread?

[RakuMon]

JLA's back in the news. But now without Batman and Superman?! :confused:

Two Heroes Cut From JLA?
Start date said to be pushed until 2010.
by Stax

February 14, 2008 - Now that the writers' strike is over, the delayed Justice League of America movie could find a new lease on life, but it will reportedly be a far different project if and when it finally does reach the big screen.

According to Moviehole.net, the film will now be "about Green Lantern, Green Arrow, and others of the Justice League of America, an organization made up of the world's greatest superheroes must deal with the expulsion of Batman and the death of Superman at the hands of the monstrous Doomsday."

So no Batman or Superman? That appears likely to solve Warner Bros.' dilemma about possibly confusing audiences with dueling franchises, and explains the script revisions that necessitated postponing JLA until post-strike.

Moviehole also points out an article in Australia's Herald-Sun newspaper that claims JLA will now begin filming in 2010 rather than 2008. Much of the cast is said to have booked other jobs for this year, which makes them unavailable to shoot JLA.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/852/852171p1.html?RSSwhen2008-02-14_184700&RSSid=852171

[The Incredible Hulk]

that's weak. You cant do JLA without Batman and Superman. That's like making a movie about the Beatles and leaving out Paul McCartney and John Lennon

[SpideyVille]

My interest level has just taken a deep plunge. And how are they postponing filming for another 2 years. What's to say anyone will even want to see this movie by then. This is just :down

[triplet]

That totally sucks... what's the freakin' point?

:down

[avidreader]

that's weak. You cant do JLA without Batman and Superman. That's like making a movie about the Beatles and leaving out Paul McCartney and John Lennon

Great analogy. :woot:

[Prison Mike]

why can't they wait until the Superman and Batman movie franchises are finished? They already pushed the filming back 2 years. What's another couple of years?

[AgentPat]

People... this was started at Moviehole. 'Nuf said.

Waiting till 2010 to start production? C'mon. I'd believe JL was dead and buried before I'd believe that.

A Justice League film without Superman or Batman? Now that report isn't just unbelievable, it's downright moronic. What are they going to do? Have Green Lantern and Flash lead the film and Wonder Woman play side-kick?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smirk.gif

I could *almost* understand them leaving Batman out since Nolan is being a whinny little brat about the whole sordid affair, but Superman? Please. :oldrazz:

[SamuraiSon6]

My interest level has just taken a deep plunge. And how are they postponing filming for another 2 years. What's to say anyone will even want to see this movie by then. This is just :down

QFT

[Ultimate_Superman]

You can do a Justice League movie with out Superman and Batman. The comics went on for years with out the two of them in there and it still held its own. I mean you have a very strong fan base Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, Green Arrow, Martin Manhunter, etc. Hell you can even throw in Hawkman or Captain Marvel. Point being Superman and Batman are not the Justice League as stated in the comics many times and even in JLU the league is bigger then these two. Would it be nice to see them in the movie yes but it is not needed.

[blksuperman2]

You can do a Justice League movie with out Superman and Batman. The comics went on for years with out the two of them in there and it still held its own. I mean you have a very strong fan base Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, Green Arrow, Martin Manhunter, etc. Hell you can even throw in Hawkman or Captain Marvel. Point being Superman and Batman are not the Justice League as stated in the comics many times and even in JLU the league is bigger then these two. Would it be nice to see them in the movie yes but it is not needed.

LMAO. You obviously don't know anyone that isn't into comic books. Outside of the fanboy fanbase no everyday cat is going to A) Know or B) care about a movie w/ B & C list comic book characters. Your post is really laughable.

[Ultimate_Superman]

LMAO. You obviously don't know anyone that isn't into comic books. Outside of the fanboy fanbase no everyday cat is going to A) Know or B) care about a movie w/ B & C list comic book characters. Your post is really laughable.
Not really if you look at the Justice League now people who are into comics have the feeling that they are in fact over using Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Now I understand the need for them in the mainstream but at the same time they can over stay their welcome. Which is why you have the roster of the JLA change so often and why it is so big. NOw granted out side of the comic fan base most people will not know who the other members are but at the same time that was the point of the JLA and JSA in the first place. I mean when they first started the group Superman and Batman were not members because they wanted to put the spotlight on their other heroes and did a good job doing so. The same could be done here where they can have cameo's but don't need to star.

[triplet]

...Outside of the fanboy fanbase no everyday cat is going to A) Know or B) care about a movie w/ B & C list comic book characters.

Well, I quoted that part for truth...

:ninja:

I don't think most people will even know who Green Lantern is, outside of GL/JL comic book fans.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well, I quoted that part for truth...

:ninja:

I don't think most people will even know who Green Lantern is, outside of GL/JL comic book fans.Thats where your wrong Green Lantern is up there or even higher then Green Arrow, Wonder Woman (and yes he is in the same league as her almost), the X-Men and all the other great heroes. The problem with GL is the same with the Flash that since there are so many you may know what the Green Lantern (the hero) is but you don't know anything about the person. The main reason why I also think the Justice League could work with out Superman/Batman is after watching Justice again I think with the line up they have right there you could easily pull off at least 5 seasons or more with that crew. Now with the movie all they need to do is really get a good story and you can easily work around Superman and Batman. I mean your roster could be Wonder Woman, Martin Manhunter, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman and a few other and you still could have a great movie.

[Prison Mike]

I don't think the general audience will care about the characters other than Superman and Batman and maybe Wonder Woman.

[SpideyVille]

I'd rather see Smallville's JL even if they don't have Clark, than see this JL film without Supes and Batman. Could they make this film work, yea maybe. But right now I think it would be MUCH better if they had Superman and Batman (and how can they have Superman die in a fight with Doomsday and not give us the privilege to seeing that fight on the big screen in live action)

[SpideyVille]

I don't think the general audience will care about the characters other than Superman and Batman and maybe Wonder Woman.

QFT
I think most people would prefer a Superman and Batman movie than JL without both of them.

[Ultimate_Superman]

QFT
I think most people would prefer a Superman and Batman movie than JL without both of them.agreed but for people to say a JL movie won't work with out Superman or Batman is crazy.

[SpideyVille]

agreed but for people to say a JL movie won't work with out Superman or Batman is crazy.

Yeah it could definitely work, but in terms of interest levels and catching people's attention, having the two biggies in it would make it a whole lot easier

[Serene]

That totally sucks... what's the freakin' point?

:down

They might as well do a movie about Hawkman's cleaning lady and Wonder Woman's accountant.

:dry:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yeah it could definitely work, but in terms of interest levels and catching people's attention, having the two biggies in it would make it a whole lot easierAgreed but at the same time they are looking to get other heroes off the ground this would be their chance. I mean you could go off into a Green Arrow/ Black Canary movie. Plus it already has no effect on the GL series and Flash series since it has already been said this not the GL or Flash from JL.

Now just asking a question but how many of you would really care what happens with this movie if Welling is not cast?

[mellyM]

Agreed but at the same time they are looking to get other heroes off the ground this would be their chance. I mean you could go off into a Green Arrow/ Black Canary movie. Plus it already has no effect on the GL series and Flash series since it has already been said this not the GL or Flash from JL.

Now just asking a question but how many of you would really care what happens with this movie if Welling is not cast?

i probably would have still seen it because I like JLA (the animated series anyway) but with no Superman and Batman and 4th tier superheroes taking the lead, there's no way I'd bother.

[SpideyVille]

Agreed but at the same time they are looking to get other heroes off the ground this would be their chance. I mean you could go off into a Green Arrow/ Black Canary movie. Plus it already has no effect on the GL series and Flash series since it has already been said this not the GL or Flash from JL.

Now just asking a question but how many of you would really care what happens with this movie if Welling is not cast?

You're completely right. With Supes and Batman there, all the others are merely secondary characters. So I understand why they would not want to include the two, but from what the article says I don't like how their absence is treated. From the sounds of it, it seems like the movie is taking place after a major event in the Superman mythos, but it sounds like they're only gonna mention it and kep no signs of superman whatsoever. And it's sorta the same with Batman disappearing, all of a sudden these guys are gone.
**** Back to the article for a sec, it does sound fishy because since when was Green Arrow even mentioned?

Oh, and w/o Welling i'd still be a little interested, but if he was cast in a Superman reboot, I'd totally forget this movie even existed:woot:

[musclesforsupes]

Well if they want welling now, they sure can get him, S-v will be over with by 2010.


Shout out
?

[SpideyVille]

Well if they want welling now, they sure can get him, S-v will be over with by 2010.


Shout out
?

And that really makes no sense.We've heard all of these rumors about how bad WB wanted Welling, yet now they postpone the movie to a time when Welling would be completely free from SV duties, but they decide to cut Superman out of the movie. It just doesn't add up. I'm think I'm gonna have to side with Agent Pat on this one because the more I look at that article the more it seems to make no sense.

[Bhoward]

First, I think the rumor is false. Second, it would be absolutely ridiculous to do a JL movie w/o Superman and Batman. That period of the JL in comics was probably the worst in JL history. yeah you'll get some fanboys who just want to see GL and Flash in a movie, but the mainstream will have no interest. the hook with a JL movie is to see Batman and Superman on the big screen together and see WW in a movie for the first time. A JL w/o the big two, would truly be transformers in tights. I don't see how anyone could even think this would be a good idea.

[Showtime]

I am so confused at this point. Who is and where does it say on Moviehole that Batman and Superman will not be in the movie? Please help, I am so lost.

The previous drafts of the JLA script included a story arc where Batman is "kicked out" of the league to do to the consequences of Brother Eye. So Batman is in the script. If the circulating rumors of a Death of Superman storyline is indeed factual, than why would that mean Superman is not in the script itself? It would mean he dies during the course of the movie by the hands of Doomsday. The League could still be dealing with these issues as the have unfolded in the script rather than the script being the aftermath of said events.

[AgentPat]

I am so confused at this point. Who is and where does it say on Moviehole that Batman and Superman will not be in the movie? Please help, I am so lost.http://movies.ign.com/articles/852/852171p1.html?RSSwhen2008-02-14_184700&RSSid=852171

It says, "according to Moviehole..." I didn't track back to Moviehole because... well, it's Moviehole *rolleyes* and it reeks of BS. I don't need to read the original article to see it as such. Muscles will be the first to tell you all about Moviehole, right Muscles? :p

[SpideyVille]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/852/852171p1.html?RSSwhen2008-02-14_184700&RSSid=852171

It says, "according to Moviehole..." I didn't track back to Moviehole because... well, it's Moviehole *rolleyes* and it reeks of BS. I don't need to read the original article to see it as such. Muscles will be the first to tell you all about Moviehole, right Muscles? :p


It's actually the ign article that makes me scratch my head. All Moviehole says is that a 2010 filming is being looked at. But IGN has this quote ...

"about Green Lantern, Green Arrow, and others of the Justice League of America, an organization made up of the world's greatest superheroes must deal with the expulsion of Batman and the death of Superman at the hands of the monstrous Doomsday."

which is not discussed at all on the Moviehole article.

[Showtime]

That is what I mean, what does Moviehole even have to do with saying that Superman and Batman are not in the film. IGN is saying that based on that synopsis which they might have gotten from moviehole, which means they are assuming they will not be in the film.

[triplet]

They might as well do a movie about Hawkman's cleaning lady and Wonder Woman's accountant.

:dry:

Quoted for truth!

i probably would have still seen it because I like JLA (the animated series anyway) but with no Superman and Batman and 4th tier superheroes taking the lead, there's no way I'd bother.

QTF squared!

:D

Well if they want welling now, they sure can get him, S-v will be over with by 2010.

Well, he'll be done in April of next year, so it'll be sooner than that.


Shout out
?

Nope, but I might be bribed.

If you can pay for me to go to Vancouver and can arrange for me to have a tour of the set, maybe even meet Tom, then I'd be willing to discuss it...

;)

[MJZ]

JLA's the new BvS.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Not really if you look at the Justice League now people who are into comics have the feeling that they are in fact over using Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. Now I understand the need for them in the mainstream but at the same time they can over stay their welcome. Which is why you have the roster of the JLA change so often and why it is so big. NOw granted out side of the comic fan base most people will not know who the other members are but at the same time that was the point of the JLA and JSA in the first place. I mean when they first started the group Superman and Batman were not members because they wanted to put the spotlight on their other heroes and did a good job doing so. The same could be done here where they can have cameo's but don't need to star.

what works in the comics will hardly ever work on film. this movie doesnt stand a chance without all of the big 3. It can work in the comics without them because the comics are a medium of fans who know well and sometimes prefer the B list characters. A feature film without them is dead in the water because the general public needs to have the names they know in it. Do you think the Timmverse JLA cartoons wouldve been nearly as successful without Supes And Bats?

[triplet]

JLA's the new BvS.

Sad, but probably true.

:(

That OMAC storyline with a crazed, mind-controlled superman (with Tom playing Supes) battling his friends and trying to kill them?

my take on the idea: Pure Gold.

:up:

The Justice League without Superman (and no Tom) and even Batman's AOL?

my take on the idea: Pure Dreck not worth watching.

:down

[mellyM]

Thats where your wrong Green Lantern is up there or even higher then Green Arrow, Wonder Woman (and yes he is in the same league as her almost), the X-Men and all the other great heroes. The problem with GL is the same with the Flash that since there are so many you may know what the Green Lantern (the hero) is but you don't know anything about the person. The main reason why I also think the Justice League could work with out Superman/Batman is after watching Justice again I think with the line up they have right there you could easily pull off at least 5 seasons or more with that crew. Now with the movie all they need to do is really get a good story and you can easily work around Superman and Batman. I mean your roster could be Wonder Woman, Martin Manhunter, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman and a few other and you still could have a great movie.

Honestly before I started watching the JLA animated series, I'd never heard of Green Latern, and I think the average person has no clue who alot of the other JL members are, I'd never heard of Martian Manhunter or Hawkgirl, or even Green Arrow. Superman, Wonderwoman and Batman have been a given since I was a child, and I don't think you'd find many people who'd never heard of them. There's no point in having a JLA film without the biggest Superheroes of our time and the leaders of JLA. I don't care anymore but I seriously hope Warners doesn't think that will actually work.

[Kaboom]

... A feature film without them is dead in the water because the general public needs to have the names they know in it. ..?

it could go all "executive decision"

[The Incredible Hulk]

it could go all "executive decision"

they're going to kill Steven Segal? Awesome :up:

[RakuMon]

LMAO. You obviously don't know anyone that isn't into comic books. Outside of the fanboy fanbase no everyday cat is going to A) Know or B) care about a movie w/ B & C list comic book characters. Your post is really laughable.

I'd watch a Booster Gold/Blue Beetle movie starring Will Arnett and Jason Bateman.:wow:

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/51079252.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CEF8BDE718D3A8E042 A40A659CEC4C8CB6

[blksuperman2]

I'd watch a Booster Gold/Blue Beetle movie starring Will Arnett and Jason Bateman.:wow:

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/51079252.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CEF8BDE718D3A8E042 A40A659CEC4C8CB6


Red X on the picture.

If a Booster/Beetle movie were ever made it'll be more of a comedy than anything. To even mention those 2 in a serious mainstream JLA motion picture and saying it could work w/o Bats & Supes is absurd.

[Prison Mike]

I'm all for Bateman and Arnett together in ANYTHING.

[bootspark]

From LA TIMES

http://www.latimes.com/business/printedition/la-fi-work15feb15,0,2204372.story?page=2

".......With cameras rolling this week on Paramount's "G.I. Joe," the studio brought in screenwriters Brian Koppelman and David Levien ("Ocean's Thirteen") to tweak the screenplay.

For potential future movies, Sony is looking for writers on a remake of 1968's "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" and the long-delayed movie version of "I Dream of Jeannie," tentatively starring Katherine Heigl.

Fox is looking for screenplay help for its romantic comedy "Bride Wars," and Dimension Films hopes to move forward on "The $6 Billion Man," a loose remake of the TV series, possibly with Eddie Murphy. Warner Bros. is looking to hire writers for "Superman 2" and Paramount is developing a Billy Crystal comedy."

Does that mean a sequel or a reboot??

[Ultimate_Superman]

Superman 2 mean sequel which is no surprise. I mean if you looked at when Mark Millar talks about his meeting with the WB he states they are looking for a sequel to Singer's movie. Now the WB may also be open to reboot given the right script but right now all points are leading to a sequel to Superman Returns especially when it was rumored that the rewrites in the JL script were due to the fact it tied into Superman Returns and Batman Begins.

[Docker2.0]

Why was the thread of manips of Tom as Supes closed? :huh: Sometimes I think some of the mods have nothing else better to do than close things that have been opened for awhile.

I'm willing to give Singerman another chance as long as its not a remake of any of the past films. But knowing Singer and his lack of real knowledge of Superman, I doubt that's going to happen. :o

[The Incredible Hulk]

Superman 2 mean sequel which is no surprise. I mean if you looked at when Mark Millar talks about his meeting with the WB he states they are looking for a sequel to Singer's movie. Now the WB may also be open to reboot given the right script but right now all points are leading to a sequel to Superman Returns especially when it was rumored that the rewrites in the JL script were due to the fact it tied into Superman Returns and Batman Begins.

I always love how you speak on these things like you know whats going on...

[SpideyVille]

That OMAC storyline with a crazed, mind-controlled superman (with Tom playing Supes) battling his friends and trying to kill them?

my take on the idea: Pure Gold.

:up:

The Justice League without Superman (and no Tom) and even Batman's AOL?

my take on the idea: Pure Dreck not worth watching.

:down

QFT, the storyline itself makes for one interesting tale to be witnessed on the big screen. But when you add TW, who we've seen give many golden performances when he portrays a CK that "isn't himself", then you know you're in for a treat. But when you take both of these away, then all you have left is a film that makes you have second thoughts about whether or not you want to give up some of your time to watch it.

Honestly before I started watching the JLA animated series, I'd never heard of Green Latern, and I think the average person has no clue who alot of the other JL members are, I'd never heard of Martian Manhunter or Hawkgirl, or even Green Arrow. Superman, Wonderwoman and Batman have been a given since I was a child, and I don't think you'd find many people who'd never heard of them. There's no point in having a JLA film without the biggest Superheroes of our time and the leaders of JLA. I don't care anymore but I seriously hope Warners doesn't think that will actually work.

You can tell DC is obviously trying to promote these characters (just look at how every few weeks there is a new JL member appearing on The Batman). But it's hard to do this when you have nothing to attract people. A JL movie without Superman or Batman could be a fantastic film, but in terms of being a success with the audience, that would be hard to accomplish because the general audience won't be interested. Having both Supes and Batman pretty much promotes the movie itself, w/o them, you'll probably just have people who are familiar with these characters be interested. IMO, if they plan to do a JL movie w/o S & B, then they should leave it for a sequel. That way they can attract a large audience and (assuming the movie is good and people are still interested) then they can take S & B out and let these other characters have the stage to themselves so they can show what they got to the world.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Go to EMI's blog, her husband I believe will be doing an interview with Tom and they are asking people to send in their questions. the best ones will be selected for the interview. It's our chance to make noise and to let Tom know that we want him as our new theatrical Superman.

[Lighthouse]

Not to be a whole wet blanket on the Tom Welling interview, but I doubt anyone will learn info about him playing Superman. Whether he is or isn't(was or wasn't) going to play Superman in JL, he's gonna deny it. The only questions you'll have answered are about Smallville.

[ZIPBAGS]

They tried a Justice League comic once without Supes & Bats. And it tanked. It wasn't until they rebooted the League with the big 3 did sales increase.

Warner take note!!!

[The Incredible Hulk]

Go to EMI's blog, her husband I believe will be doing an interview with Tom and they are asking people to send in their questions. the best ones will be selected for the interview. It's our chance to make noise and to let Tom know that we want him as our new theatrical Superman.

he's pissing into the wind thinking he'll get an interview with Welling

[AgentPat]

Minor JL "news"...

Variety
2/21/08

Lin Pictures taps Silk, Gilchrist
Execs join Warner Bros.-based shingle
By DIANE GARRETT

Dan Lin has begun to staff up the Warner Bros.-based shingle he launched in January.

The former Warner production exec has named Jon Silk as VP of production and Stephen Gilchrist as director of development. They will help find projects and develop his slate for Lin Pictures.

Lin is shepherding "Justice League" for the studio; producer has championed the George Miller superhero project, which had been put on hold by the writers strike, from the start. Lin is also overseeing several projects backed by MRC for the studio, including "The Box," directed by Richard Kelly, and "Shorts," written and directed by Robert Rodriguez.

Silk, who most recently served as director of development for Benderspink, previously worked at Gold Circle Films and Universal. Gilchrist had been Lin's assistant at Warner.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981279

[spark627]

i hope they get this off the ground

[triplet]

ooops....

[triplet]

he's pissing into the wind thinking he'll get an interview with Welling

LOL!

That's exactly what I was thinking which is why I didn't bother commenting.

I mean, if Craig can't get an interview, what the hell kind of chance does this blogger stand?

[Showtime]

What is Steve's connection to Welling?

[triplet]

What is Steve's connection to Welling?

Steve?

:confused:

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL!

That's exactly what I was thinking which is why I didn't bother commenting.

I mean, if Craig can't get an interview, what the hell kind of chance does this blogger stand?

Well he's not a blogger, he's a guy who works in Hollywood (allegedly) who chimes in on Emi's blog. But I still think its a fruitless endeavor

[Showtime]

Steve?




Jayne's husband.

[triplet]

Well he's not a blogger, he's a guy who works in Hollywood (allegedly) who chimes in on Emi's blog. But I still think its a fruitless endeavor

Still, unless he's personal friends with Tom I don't see him getting an interview.

Jayne's husband.

Oh, okay, gotcha.

I never go over there anymore... No point really.

[Showtime]

It's kind of a madhouse now.

[Mikelus]

Speaking of Welling, here's an interview (miracle!) with the French magazine Star Club:

StarClub: And what about Kristin Kreuk ?

Tom: "She is one of the most talented actresses of her generation. Our ccollaboration is wonderful. Behind her strong intelligence, there is a sense of humor really particular."

Tom also talks about the conflict between Smallville and Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li: "For now, we have to finish the 7th season! With the strike, everybody thought that Smallville would have one season more, and that the show could be completed thanks to a 7th season, because the 15th episode is already written and it is amazing, it's worth an end of season. We are not trustful, we fear the worst: the show could stop at the end of the season or even before. As for Kristin, thinking that we would have finished the shooting of the season in March, she has signed a contract to make on this date the film Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li… The more time passes, the more the end of the shooting of Smallville is threatened! The show becomes mission impossible…"

source: kreuk-central.net

[Bhoward]

well I guess this means Tom's officially out of the running :)

http://www.bollywoodmantra.com/news/shahrukh-soon-to-fulfill-son-aryan-s-dream/

[Serene]

It's kind of a madhouse now.

To say the least. I caught up with things there yesterday.

:dry:

Speaking of Welling, here's an interview (miracle!) with the French magazine Star Club:

source: kreuk-central.net
Those French magazine "interviews" are always so interesting, and so familiar too. ;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

well I guess this means Tom's officially out of the running :)

http://www.bollywoodmantra.com/news/shahrukh-soon-to-fulfill-son-aryan-s-dream/


LOL didnt Bollywood learn their lesson the last time they tried to do Superman? :D

0_4C7TDyVfs

[Serene]

^Now that's award-winning choreography. :eek:

[Showtime]

To say the least. I caught up with things there yesterday.

I dropped a couple posts there yesterday I believe. It's a shark tank.

^Now that's award-winning choreography. :eek:

LOL didnt Bollywood learn their lesson the last time they tried to do Superman? :D

0_4C7TDyVfs

Stop making fun of my favorite movie.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I dropped a couple posts there yesterday I believe. It's a shark tank.





Can you blame them??? I mean in all truth I can understand where they coming from. Over there is really where you are getting the last bit of news that Tom Welling will be Superman in a movie. Any sign of the WB moving forward with a sequel to the other movie pretty much destroys that hope bit by bit for them. I would be angry too if I invested 8 years into this show and didn't get the big pay off I've been waiting to see. Now thats not saying he won't be him but it is looking dim so they are angry and rightfully so they were told one thing for a year now and it is not coming true.

[Showtime]

I don't blame them for feeling that way, but I think a lot of the were misled past the point where Welling was actually up for the role. I think he was, but the time passed long before it was told to them that it passed. Unforunately I think some of the fans were led on a little longer than needed. I don't blame them for feeling the way they do though.

[Ultimate_Superman]

agreed but who they should be mad at is the owner of the blog for leading them on for so long and being bias to the facts. But then again maybe thats all the info she was getting at the time

[Showtime]

That is my point, they shouldn't be mad at posters with different opinions. That is where it has been aimed at, but it's no different than The Hype or any other forum.

[Lighthouse]

Speaking of Welling, here's an interview (miracle!) with the French magazine Star Club:

StarClub: And what about Kristin Kreuk ?

Tom: "She is one of the most talented actresses of her generation. Our ccollaboration is wonderful. Behind her strong intelligence, there is a sense of humor really particular."

Tom also talks about the conflict between Smallville and Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li: "For now, we have to finish the 7th season! With the strike, everybody thought that Smallville would have one season more, and that the show could be completed thanks to a 7th season, because the 15th episode is already written and it is amazing, it's worth an end of season. We are not trustful, we fear the worst: the show could stop at the end of the season or even before. As for Kristin, thinking that we would have finished the shooting of the season in March, she has signed a contract to make on this date the film Street Fighter: Legend of Chun-Li… The more time passes, the more the end of the shooting of Smallville is threatened! The show becomes mission impossible…"

Heh, I asked a question about this in the Season 7 thread, but you all ignored me.:cmad: :cwink:

[Lemaris]

I'm confused are you guys talking about this emi person who comes out of the woodwork every 6 months and swears Tom is up for either a reboot, JLA or both.

[Lighthouse]

I'm confused are you guys talking about this emi person who comes out of the woodwork every 6 months and swears Tom is up for either a reboot, JLA or both.

http://theinfamousemijayne.blogspot.com/

Go there and revel in the disgusting homophobia in the comments section. I didn't like Superman Returns either, but for the love of God, there are some sick individuals in there.

[AgentPat]

http://theinfamousemijayne.blogspot.com/

Go there and revel in the disgusting homophobia in the comments section. I didn't like Superman Returns either, but for the love of God, there are some sick individuals in there.You can thank the transplants from the Singerman Sux blog for that. I hope Jayne sets her comment's sections to moderated when she returns. When she initially set the blog up, she asked everybody to behave, but apparently there's some morons on the Net who feel empowered through their anonymity. Her blog went south faster than Canadian geese in the winter. *sigh*

[Showtime]

It has gotten a bit out of hand there, but that is the point of haivng an independent blog, a place where people can speak their mind without censorship.

[Lighthouse]

It has gotten a bit out of hand there, but that is the point of haivng an independent blog, a place where people can speak their mind without censorship.

Then they should start their own blogs, and I can just not read them.

[AgentPat]

It has gotten a bit out of hand there, but that is the point of having an independent blog, a place where people can speak their mind without censorship.It's a personal blog. The right of people to post there is determined by the blog owner. If Jayne wants to set her blog to moderated only, she has the right to do so... and SHOULD, IMHO. That is of course, if she would like to maintain some civility and provide a pleasant environment for people to post their opinions. Now if Jayne likes what's being said on her site, so be it. I don't have to read or post there either. But right now, it's a free-for-all, with morons like "apologist puncher" cursing out other users with nasty insults, homophobic accusations, and heinous words. The nature of Blogger is that the owner can't "ban" somebody, but they can set the comments to be moderated, so morons can be weeded out. For those that don't like that, too bad. It's her blog; she should be able to do with it as she pleases. Look how bad it got over at IESB - and that's supposedly a "news" site.

[Lighthouse]

It's a personal blog. The right of people to post there is determined by the blog owner. If Jayne wants to set her blog to moderated only, she has the right to do so... and SHOULD, IMHO. That is of course, if she would like to maintain some civility and provide a pleasant environment for people to post their opinions. Now if Jayne likes what's being said on her site, so be it. I don't have to read or post there either. But right now, it's a free-for-all, with morons like "apologist puncher" cursing out other users with nasty insults, homophobic accusations, and heinous words. The nature of Blogger is that the owner can't "ban" somebody, but they can set the comments to be moderated, so morons can be weeded out. For those that don't like that, too bad. It's her blog; she should be able to do with it as she pleases. Look how bad it got over at IESB - and that's supposedly a "news" site.

IESB has one of the crappiest message boards I've ever been to. It's just godawfully designed. Not sure why he doesn't use vbulletin. It also has lack of moderators. Latino Heat should have been banned ages ago.