Tom Welling as Superman

[Mikelus]

Oh please, specially not that horrible suit from SR. If they only show the \S/, then the classic one as a homage to Reeve would be perfect.

[Docker2.0]

I just don't understand th WB. The show is about him becoming Superman so it doesn't make any sense whatsoever if he can't wear the suit in the last episode. That's like Bruce Wayne not being able to appear on the show. Smallville is supposedly a elseworld type of show so its not like its in the same universe and TDK. Heck, Bats and Supes in SR aren't even in the same universe! I don't see how it would be any confusing if Bruce showed up in Smallville while there's a TDK movie and its any less confusing when there are 2 Supermen at once, Welling and Routh. :huh:

[Syncos]

Oh please, specially not that horrible suit from SR. If they only show the \S/, then the classic one as a homage to Reeve would be perfect.

If they were to use the symbol, than they should use the one that was designed for Smallville. They shouldn't change it to reeve's or to returns.

[b24]

i m quite sure we will atleast get SHIRT RIP by end of last episode

that way they will keep no tight no flight policy and yet we will get satisfied ending

it will be great scene when in last scene of episode clark hears police siren and he gets out of DP runs towards some alley and rips open his shirt with S sheild showing up

[Mike_D202]

I dont want the SR suit but its better than nothing at all.

[b24]

if there is suit they will probabaly go with SR type suit than CR suit

by the way if clark finds cape cheezy how will he react when he finds out that someday he will wear Underwear outside of his pants

[Mikelus]

If they were to use the symbol, than they should use the one that was designed for Smallville. They shouldn't change it to reeve's or to returns.

The \S/ in SV has basically the same design, so is not a concern.

[Docker2.0]

if there is suit they will probabaly go with SR type suit than CR suit

by the way if clark finds cape cheezy how will he react when he finds out that someday he will wear Underwear outside of his pants

That's what I'm saying. That's why they should "update it" for the show. Give him the black suit.....I know he only wears the suit when he's bad but its one of the ways he won't look corny. Or let him wear the red and blue without the underwear outside and possibly without the cape.

[triplet]

I don't think the SR suit would be good for Tom in any case...

One of the reasons it was designed the way it had been was because of the way BJ looks...

Every actor is different. I don't think a suit that worked on Brandon would work on Tom. They have different body types.

If they do let Tom wear the suit in the final episode, it will be a different one. I can't see them recycling the SR suit. It would look worse on Tom than it had on BJ.

[Ultimate_Superman]

If they do let Tom wear the suit I only see them letting him do a shirt rip at the most. Not spending time showing the full suit. And if that is the case then I can see something like SR. But other then that I do hope he gets to wear the suit although I can see why the WB doesn't want him to or might not want him to.

[Prison Mike]

I don't think the SR suit would be good for Tom in any case...

One of the reasons it was designed the way it had been was because of the way BJ looks...

Every actor is different. I don't think a suit that worked on Brandon would work on Tom. They have different body types.

If they do let Tom wear the suit in the final episode, it will be a different one. I can't see them recycling the SR suit. It would look worse on Tom than it had on BJ.

hahaha....BJ. lol

[triplet]

hahaha....BJ. lol

That is his nickname, right? For Brandon James?

:confused:

*gives innocent look and adorably bats eyelashes*

LOL!

:D ;)

[Mike_D202]

When I say "why dont they just use the SR suit", I'm referring to the notion that the reason why they are not using a suit right now is because the studios dont want SV to clash with the current movies (hence why they used the SR symbol).

Not that I want or prefer the SR suit, but like I said its better than NO suit at all (even better than a blue/red blur flying through the sky which we will probably end up seeing anyways at the end).

[Mikelus]

If only the "geniuses" at WB could be cool and logical about things.... they had Smallville and SR on 2006, two Clarks, no problem. But having a young Bruce Wayne or the suit "conflicts with the movie franchise".... nonsense! :cmad:
No wonder they still don't know what to do with the Superman franchise, is just too hard for them to figure it out, fools. :whatever:

[Showtime]

When I say "why dont they just use the SR suit", I'm referring to the notion that the reason why they are not using a suit right now is because the studios dont want SV to clash with the current movies (hence why they used the SR symbol).

Not that I want or prefer the SR suit, but like I said its better than NO suit at all (even better than a blue/red blur flying through the sky which we will probably end up seeing anyways at the end).

Whatever connections the next big screen version of Superman might have, I can safely theorize that they won't be using that suit or the same \S/.

[LL2K2]

If only the "geniuses" at WB could be cool and logical about things.... they had Smallville and SR on 2006, two Clarks, no problem. But having a young Bruce Wayne or the suit "conflicts with the movie franchise".... nonsense! :cmad:
No wonder they still don't know what to do with the Superman franchise, is just too hard for them to figure it out, fools. :whatever:

Smallville's Clark and SR's Clark are two different people, though. One is a reporter, and has established himself as Superman; the other is not and has not.

[Mikelus]

^^ They're different versions of the same character, that's why not allowing Bruce Wayne on SV is not logical, these restrictions are inconsistent. Same thing with the suit, they can have a new suit for the show, so what, is not going to destroy the franchise or anything.

[b24]

No wonder they still don't know what to do with the Superman franchise, is just too hard for them to figure it out, fools. :whatever:

agree they are the same people who fired richard donner because thwy wanted superman movies to be more campy and comical

and it has been 2 decades and they still haven't figure out what they should do

[b24]

Smallville's Clark and SR's Clark are two different people, though. One is a reporter, and has established himself as Superman; the other is not and has not.


but did find some refernces to SVin SR and even BS admitted that

but those are quite subtle so u may not get them 1st time

[Webhead2006]

like folks have said before the whole welling vs routh thing is never going to end even if neither of them is in the next film what ever it ends up being they will always be siding to one of them saying which they think is/was the better clark kent/superman.... As for that interview awhile ago where the producers said they might not be able to use the superman suit not even for the final moments of the last episode that would totally suck and like others have also said would be a major copout for all the fans of SV. Hopefully since right now superman film series is back in limbo once again like it was during the 90s hopefully the fools in charge will let the smallville folks have the suit. OR atless we get to see the S shield/shirt rip deal.

[LostSon88]

I take it you've all seen this trailer by WormyT?

0NIFvrV4VP4

I stumbled upon it today and...WOW!!! :wow:

[p4poetic]

dean fans voted multiple times lol

I don't see why routh fans complain about welling fans cheating when clearly that's not the case.

Because the Tom Welling fangirls didn't? lol. He was in the lead for a long time at one point. And Tom Welling isn't even Superman.

LOL where did that come from? No problem at all with Chris passing Tom but Deano?

Another Christopher Reeve purist, oh great :whatever:

[RakuMon]

I take it you've all seen this trailer by WormyT?

0NIFvrV4VP4

I stumbled upon it today and...WOW!!! :wow:

that is ......amazing. well done to whoever made that!:applaud

It is amazing. That's why it's been my sig for the past year and a half. ;)

(hint: click on "The Real Superman")

[RakuMon]

Speaking of Wormy T, looks like he's done it again. His ThunderCats trailer is making the rounds on the tubes: http://wormytv.blogspot.com/2008/12/thundercats-sword-of-omens.html

fb50GMmY5nk

It also got picked up at MTV: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/23/fan-made-thundercats-movie-trailer-brad-pitt-as-lion-o-hugh-jackman-as-tygra/

It seems he's gotten much better. I'd like to see him take another crack at Welling/Supes, especially with all the iconic stuff to play with that Smallville's given this season!

[Prison Mike]

I take it you've all seen this trailer by WormyT?

0NIFvrV4VP4

I stumbled upon it today and...WOW!!! :wow:

really? it looks really fake to me. they just pasted welling's face on reeves' body. it didn't look good IMO.

[Webhead2006]

yea wormy t does some great work and has improved over the yrs i have seen his work.

[Bloodwynd]

I'd like to think we'll at least see Welling in the suit in the series finale, and not just some silhoutte or a far away shot of a CG Welling.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Speaking of Wormy T, looks like he's done it again. His ThunderCats trailer is making the rounds on the tubes: http://wormytv.blogspot.com/2008/12/thundercats-sword-of-omens.html

fb50GMmY5nk

It also got picked up at MTV: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/23/fan-made-thundercats-movie-trailer-brad-pitt-as-lion-o-hugh-jackman-as-tygra/

It seems he's gotten much better. I'd like to see him take another crack at Welling/Supes, especially with all the iconic stuff to play with that Smallville's given this season!Wormy T just pissed me off with this one because it makes me wish even more that they were still making a ThuderCats movie.

[Gmanofsteel]

Because the Tom Welling fangirls didn't? lol. He was in the lead for a long time at one point. And Tom Welling isn't even Superman.


The others have openly talked about how they cheated to boost the %. If you have proof that welling fans did then post it, otherwise your post has no point and is simply speculation.

[LexFactor]

really? it looks really fake to me. they just pasted welling's face on reeves' body. it didn't look good IMO.

mike, you have to appreciate how difficult it is to apply that to footage. I think he did a great job. Yeah, you tell it's fake but it's still well done. And the Thundercats one is even more impressive.

[Prison Mike]

mike, you have to appreciate how difficult it is to apply that to footage. I think he did a great job. Yeah, you tell it's fake but it's still well done. And the Thundercats one is even more impressive.

yes the thundercats one looked impressive for a fan-made trailer. I just don't see the big deal about the superman one though. it's welling's face over reeve's body.

[Ultimate_Superman]

yes the thundercats one looked impressive for a fan-made trailer. I just don't see the big deal about the superman one though. it's Welling's face over reeve's body.The big deal is its probably the only real good chance you'll get to see Welling in the suit unless the WB changes its mind.


Although I am with you on this one even though it is a good vid.

[LastSon Kal-El]

I don't know if this has been posted so take a look at this link. Tom came in third. No mention of the current Superman uh huh.

http://dashboard.aim.com/aim/galleries/comic-book-hunks?icid=aimDBDL5_link1

[LL2K2]

That list is misleading, IMO. It mentions "comic" characters, but when did Supernatural become a "comic" series? Supernatural is just that.

[LostSon88]

really? it looks really fake to me.

Well yeah...that's because it is fake. But it's one of the more better fakes out there today. :cwink:

they just pasted welling's face on reeves' body. it didn't look good IMO.

That's not exactly as easy as it sounds...and as some have mentioned, it is probably the closest we'll ever see Welling in the suit.

[Gmanofsteel]

That list is misleading, IMO. It mentions "comic" characters, but when did Supernatural become a "comic" series? Supernatural is just that.

after the second season I believe they gave it a comic miniseries.

[blksuperman2]

Speaking of Wormy T, looks like he's done it again. His ThunderCats trailer is making the rounds on the tubes: http://wormytv.blogspot.com/2008/12/thundercats-sword-of-omens.html

fb50GMmY5nk

It also got picked up at MTV: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/23/fan-made-thundercats-movie-trailer-brad-pitt-as-lion-o-hugh-jackman-as-tygra/

It seems he's gotten much better. I'd like to see him take another crack at Welling/Supes, especially with all the iconic stuff to play with that Smallville's given this season!

THat's funny. My co-worker showed me that last night and we both were impressed. LOL I can really see Brad Pitt being Lion-O now.:woot:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Speaking of Wormy T, looks like he's done it again. His ThunderCats trailer is making the rounds on the tubes: http://wormytv.blogspot.com/2008/12/thundercats-sword-of-omens.html

fb50GMmY5nk

It also got picked up at MTV: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/12/23/fan-made-thundercats-movie-trailer-brad-pitt-as-lion-o-hugh-jackman-as-tygra/

It seems he's gotten much better. I'd like to see him take another crack at Welling/Supes, especially with all the iconic stuff to play with that Smallville's given this season!

WormyT is actually a she.... shhh dont tell

[The Incredible Hulk]

Smallville's Clark and SR's Clark are two different people, though. One is a reporter, and has established himself as Superman; the other is not and has not.

YES! finally you've seen the light and realized that wasnt an accurate representation of Superman we saw in 'Singer's Folly" HALLELUAH! :D

[Zorex]

Yeah, she.... oh, wait, that's not what she was saying at all! Silly Hulk, hyuck hyuck...

[Billy Batson]

WormyT is actually a she.... shhh dont tell


LOL. No she is not a she, but actually a he.
I sent that WormyT a message congratulating her.
He than informed me that he is not OUR WormyT whom is indeed a female.
MAN! that trailer is OUTSTANDING "MY WORD".

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/no.gif

[Gmanofsteel]

hahaha :D

[LL2K2]

YES! finally you've seen the light and realized that wasnt an accurate representation of Superman we saw in 'Singer's Folly" HALLELUJAH! :D

Corrected that bit of onomatopoeia. ;)

No. I haven't "seen the light," as you put it. :rolleyes:

And let's get something straight: There is no definite "accurate" representation of Superman. You didn't like the movie; I did. You see a potential Superman in the series' version of Clark. I feel he still has a ways to go.

That's perfectly fine. But please, stop twisting my words around.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Corrected that bit of onomatopoeia. ;)

No. I haven't "seen the light," as you put it. :rolleyes:

And let's get something straight: There is no definite "accurate" representation of Superman. You didn't like the movie; I did. You see a potential Superman in the series' version of Clark. I feel he still has a ways to go.

That's perfectly fine. But please, stop twisting my words around.

dont get your panties in a bunch, it was merely a joke made with the rather vague, yet funny statement you posted. Everyone knew I was just playing around with what you meant.... NO "twisting of words" being done. Can't we mortal enemies not have some fun with one another once in a while?

[Bloodwynd]

http://www.skyseastone.net/nuadha/hand/wellingsuperman.jpg

http://www.kryptonsite.com/supermanpaint.jpg

http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/tomwellingsupes1.jpg

I know these have definitely been posted already, but I figured I'd repost them to steer the thread back on course & sort of lighten the mood.

I really hope that if there's to be a season 9, that Clark/Tom will finally suit up. It'd be really nice to see...Clark in his first year as Superman during the last season of Smallville.

[Lighthouse]

I'm gonna be honest. I don't really like those Alex Ross pictures. I realize I'm probably in the minority.

[Bloodwynd]

Everyone has different preferences & tastes concerning art. Quite frankly, I think the second pic I posted is the best out of all three, but concerning both Alex Ross pics, the first one is most certainly better than the second.

[RakuMon]

WormyT is actually a she.... shhh dont tell

Yeah, she.... oh, wait, that's not what she was saying at all! Silly Hulk, hyuck hyuck...

LOL. No she is not a she, but actually a he.
I sent that WormyT a message congratulating her.
He than informed me that he is not OUR WormyT whom is indeed a female.
MAN! that trailer is OUTSTANDING "MY WORD".

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/no.gif

hahaha :D

I'm so confused. :huh:

[Webhead2006]

yea online its hard to ever really know who is really who they say they are.

[Billy Batson]

HaPpy NeW YeAr everyone. I've found a Superman poll and I was pleasantly surprised by the results and I thought that I would share it you guys.

http://poll.pollhost.com/Y2FyaWFydAkxMTQzMTIyNjAzCTAwMDAwMAlGRkZGRkYJQXJpYW wJQXNzb3J0ZWQJMA/ :supes:

[Mikelus]

^^ Not a surprise, CR and TW blow the competition away as usual. Looking back, WB made a mistake by not ending SV back on season five to make the movie soon after, what a difference for the better it would've been, a credible Superman, a better Lois with Erica and the best Lex ever, Michael Rosenbaum.

[Captain Kirk]

I think Welling could be in the Superman film series, but I wouldn't cast him as Superman. I'd keep Routh as Superman, and I'd cast Welling as Mon-El! I think this would be a good compromise, and then Welling could spin off into a Legion movie. Thoughts?

[Captain Kirk]

^^ Not a surprise, CR and TW blow the competition away as usual. Looking back, WB made a mistake by not ending SV back on season five to make the movie soon after, what a difference for the better it would've been, a credible Superman, a better Lois with Erica and the best Lex ever, Michael Rosenbaum.I agree with most of what you have said, but to say Welling is a better Superman is rediculous considering he has never been Superman. Routh has! And personally I'm not certain Welling has the acting chops to play Superman on the big screen.

[Thunder Emperor]

I think Welling could be in the Superman film series, but I wouldn't cast him as Superman. I'd keep Routh as Superman, and I'd cast Welling as Mon-El! I think this would be a good compromise, and then Welling could spin off into a Legion movie. Thoughts?

lets not get into the who is a better superman between TW & BR. Personal opinion, Superman isn't an emo character and Routh did not make me beleive a man could fly it's that simple

[Double Down]

lets not get into the who is a better superman between TW & BR. Personal opinion, Superman isn't an emo character and Routh did not make me beleive a man could fly it's that simple

Why say, "let's not get into" it, then proceed to do just that?

[Mikelus]

I agree with most of what you have said, but to say Welling is a better Superman is rediculous considering he has never been Superman. Routh has! And personally I'm not certain Welling has the acting chops to play Superman on the big screen.

Here we go again.... :whatever:

Who would Reeve choose to succeed him as Lois Lane's lover? "In my opinion," he says, "the character is more important than the actor who plays him, because it is an enduring mythology. I'm sure that they'll cast appropriately, and take their time and find the right person. But it definitely should be an unknown." That said, Reeve adds that "[Smallville's Tom Welling would] be an ideal candidate. I don't know if [he] can switch from one job to the other, but I'm sure they'd figure it out!"

http://www.tvguide.com/news/superman-ratner-brett-40691.aspx


Christopher Reeve voiced his approval of the show:

"I was a little bit skeptical when I heard about [Smallville] at first, but I must say the writing, the acting, and the special effects are quite remarkable. In 1977, a big stunt scene would have taken us a week to film – it's pretty impressive what they are able to do with computers and effects technology today on a weekly TV show. It gives it a lot more production value and inventiveness than I thought I was going to see when I first heard about the series. I think the show is doing a really good job following the mythology, and Tom is doing a good job following the tradition."

He knew what he was talking about (unlike others). :word:

[MAN O STEEL]

I have to agree with Mikelus to an extent here. I've been a fan of both Routh & Welling since thier names were first mentioned, Welling obviously my first choice. I see great thing's that both men can contribute to Superman's character so my judgement is not biased to one or the other. However I'm getting mighty sick of the usual "I don't think Welling has the acting chops to pull it off on the big screen" arguement. It's not only weak, but flawed & used far to often as a way to get the Welling fans going. Welling has every bit the acting chops that Routh has & if Routh gets most ppl's tick of approval then why not Welling?. Routh's acting in SR was flawed & wooden alot of the time but he gets cut the slack alot of the time & it's wrong. Both Welling & Routh have alot to learn but hey, so do all actors. you learn & grow with each new endeavour. All I'm trying to get at is, stop with the Welling hate, Smallville's downhill slump is not Welling's fault, nor is the bad writting. his acting is sufficient for what is required from the script, he can only do so much with what he's given. You put an award winning writting team togetehr with a great director & i gaurantee you'll see a different Welling, but sadly you'll never see that because Hollywood, much like alot of you want to kick Welling while he's down, it's wrong.





Steve

[Webhead2006]

Yea lets not make this thread into a welling/routh debate we do that enough over in the superman movie threads. Though yea i love welling's work in smallville and i would love to see what he could bring to the big screen but its doubtful we will see him as supes on the big screen let alone in smallville. As for routh i still didnt like his superman in SR he like many others have said and i think he was wooden and didnt do well in the role. Though most of it was probably routh's ability and the script/singer making him play it like reeve.

Though like i said a few times over in the superman threads routh should only be staying if the next film is a direct sequel off of SR but if its a total reboot we need an all new and fresh cast to get away from the donnor world. As for the crazy rumors of doing a reboot with routh still in the lead come on that doesnt make alot of sense there. If you want to reboot it should be a full on reboot so you can get away from all the things the failed product did.

[Mikelus]

Anything is possible with the morons at WB, they think allowing Mr. Wayne in SV or Clark with the suit "conflicts" with their movie franchises, like it would be the end of the world and destroy anything, whatever.... :rolleyes:

[smooth3006]

im sure this will be the final smallville season. i can't wait to see clark in the suit in the finale. i have to admit this season is awesum so far.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Please vote for Tom in this new poll: http://www.**************.com/fansites/news/?s=15&a=5796#

[Prison Mike]

I am really getting tired of the waiting. I just want Smallville to come back so I can see the Legion!

[The Incredible Hulk]

Please vote for Tom in this new poll: http://www.**************.com/fansites/news/?s=15&a=5796#

LOL

People have been arguing reather Brandon Routh or Tom Welling (http://www.**************.com/fansites/news/?s=15&a=5796#) should wear the S.

I HATE it when people argue reather! :D

Not only did they make a typo, but they also made one using the wrong version of the word "whether." Who edits that site? And reading some of their other articles, they read like they were written by a middle schooler without spell check.

That being said, I see Tom is winning handily again. When will the accusations of cheating start flying?

[Cmill216]

Dear lord, Hulk is right. What god awful website is this?

Having written the script and baring the approval of Richard Donner himself, Singer seemed as exited as a child at Christmas to be able to create what was to be the “official” and “new” adventures of the most popular superhero ever to come from a comic book.

[The Incredible Hulk]

^ arent I always? :D

[Webhead2006]

yea i hate that wb can get their heads straight with superman. Hopefully things have changed now since wb and dc heads had that summit talks a few months ago. Hopefully what ever they do they make a much better and well rounded film.

[p4poetic]

I think if offered the role he would take it

1) He has been on Smallville 8 years now he may play Clark Kent but most people would say he is Superman so it's a bit late to worry about type casting

2)Robert Downey Jr ,Christian Bale and Edward Norton all great actors have all played Superhero's it's no longer looked down at to play a Superhero and certainly it hasn't hurt any of thier career's.I would argue that Tom's best option is to take Superman after Smallville as it would lead to other roles.

But you know maybe Tom like's working on TV and will want to continue that after Smallville ,think David Boreneaz who did many years in Buffy and Angel ,Sci Fi shows and has moved into a more mainstream show in ''BONES''.

Their careers were far already established by the time they played Iron Man, Batman and the Hulk.

[LL2K2]

LOL



I HATE it when people argue reather! :D

Not only did they make a typo, but they also made one using the wrong version of the word "whether." Who edits that site? And reading some of their other articles, they read like they were written by a middle schooler without spell check.

That being said, I see Tom is winning handily again. When will the accusations of cheating start flying?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that poll is indeed rigged. In the same manner the USA Today poll was.

[Webhead2006]

yea its a nice poll in all but you can multi vote which is a drawback to any poll.

[Double Down]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that poll is indeed rigged. In the same manner the USA Today poll was.

Wait a second, are you telling me that a poll on some crappy little web site that nobody cares about got 1,000 votes in a single day through cheating? Say it isn't so.


Both "sides" cheated. I voted at 11:30 last night. I went back less than an hour later and both sides had somehow accumulated 100s of votes during that hour, at that time of night. Anyone who takes anything out of an internet poll like that is crazy.

[AgentPat]

^ If you feel like spamming the poll, have at it. It's a ridiculously small poll on an obscure website that nobody gives two hoots about anyway.

Even mainstream polls on gen aud sites like EW's Popwatch (http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/poll?view=92165&pollId=92248&channel=aol_us_ewpopculture) don't mean squat because some fanboy (or fangirl) will always cry foul about something. That said, I do find it funny how the popwatch poll, as timely as it was back then for being asked a week after SR left domestic theaters, is conveniently forgotten.

Eh. Whatever. Back to reclusion...

[Double Down]

^ If you feel like spamming the poll, have at it. It's a ridiculously small poll on an obscure website that nobody gives two hoots about anyway.

Even mainstream polls on gen aud sites like EW's Popwatch (http://webcenter.polls.aol.com/poll?view=92165&pollId=92248&channel=aol_us_ewpopculture) don't mean squat because some fanboy (or fangirl) will always cry foul about something. That said, I do find it funny how the popwatch poll, as timely as it was back then for being asked a week after SR left domestic theaters, is conveniently forgotten.

Eh. Whatever. Back to reclusion...

My point obviously was that the poll doesn't matter.

[roach]

^^ Not a surprise, CR and TW blow the competition away as usual. Looking back, WB made a mistake by not ending SV back on season five to make the movie soon after, what a difference for the better it would've been, a credible Superman, a better Lois with Erica and the best Lex ever, Michael Rosenbaum.

I dont think any of the major problems most people had with SR was Routh, Bosworth or Spacey. Change out the cast and you still had the same Lex land plot, Superman still not throwing a punch and the super kid. IMO if they should have done a reboot instead of Superman 2.5

[The Incredible Hulk]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that poll is indeed rigged. In the same manner the USA Today poll was.

LOL @ "bursting my bubble"....though I guess that explains how Routh came back and won then, almost simultaneously with you seeing this post no less. Guess you spoke to soon, huh? DOH! I hate it when that happens....

Seriously though, the frequency with which you monitor the goings on in this thread is almost disturbing. When I posted that, my first thought was I wondered how long it would take the Ruth Brigade to come in here to discredit the poll..... it's really sad.

My point obviously was that the poll doesn't matter.

but yet I'm sure you all voted in it first chance you got right? lol

[LL2K2]

LOL @ "bursting my bubble"....though I guess that explains how Routh came back and won then, almost simultaneously with you seeing this post no less. Guess you spoke to soon, huh? DOH! I hate it when that happens....

I posted the same thing in the Routh thread, too. Let's face it...both parties are at fault here. Both fanbases spread the word. But nobody knew it could be rigged until someone discovered the truth.

but yet I'm sure you all voted in it first chance you got right? lol

Of course. We all thought this poll, like many others, meant something. But once the truth was revealed, any indications that it could carry some merit (for a change) were quickly eliminated.

[Serene]

Of course. We all thought this poll, like many others, meant something.

No... not all.

[Mikelus]

Seriously though, the frequency with which you monitor the goings on in this thread is almost disturbing. When I posted that, my first thought was I wondered how long it would take the Ruth Brigade to come in here to discredit the poll..... it's really sad.


That's love my friend, LL can't help it! :oldrazz:

;)

[The Incredible Hulk]

I posted the same thing in the Routh thread, too. Let's face it...both parties are at fault here. Both fanbases spread the word. But nobody knew it could be rigged until someone discovered the truth.

any internet poll can be rigged thats a given going in. not to mention that site is a joke and always has been.



Of course. We all thought this poll, like many others, meant something. But once the truth was revealed, any indications that it could carry some merit (for a change) were quickly eliminated.

LOL internet polls dont mean a damn thing except to those who vote in them, especially those on fan sites that have been done 1.000 time before elsewhere.

[Webhead2006]

I dont think any of the major problems most people had with SR was Routh, Bosworth or Spacey. Change out the cast and you still had the same Lex land plot, Superman still not throwing a punch and the super kid. IMO if they should have done a reboot instead of Superman 2.5
Yea there was alot of things i didnt like in SR. I too when i first heard about the project was actually happening and going to be rolling on cameras was hoping for it to be a total reboot to the supes series like BB was for batman. But then all we got was singer's weaker attempt of donnor's superman 1 and donnor/other guys superman 2.

I really hope the next film we are getting when ever that will happen will end up being a total and complete reboot. So we can finally get out of the silver age 30yr old stuff and bring stuff to a more modern take on superman and other characters. Though if u been following all the superman movie news for the past yr or so things have been flip floping daily with supes between wb and dc.

They all just cant agree to what to do next. Some want a singer/routh sequel, a routh/new director sequel, a routh/reboot, and then a complete reboot.

[RakuMon]

I'm still fuzzy on this whole Wormy T thing.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=16170024&postcount=9801

Can anyone help a brother out?

[Webhead2006]

sorry would love to help you out but i dont remember my self if wormy is a guy or girl.

[ZIPBAGS]

I know its a long shot. But, it would be cool if Warner used season 9 to set up a Superman movie starring Welling. ;)

Oh and speaking of Wormy. I can't get enough of this trailer....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4

I also don't care what anyone says. That trailer is great.

[MAN O STEEL]

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6425/srpromo070v2copyzg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/srpromo070v2copyzg8.jpg/1/w470.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img183/srpromo070v2copyzg8.jpg/1/)

[strikezone89]

i really dont watch the show that often but does anyone think (maybe the series finale) that we will see Welling dawn the Superman outfit?

[zerohour films]

i really dont watch the show that often but does anyone think (maybe the series finale) that we will see Welling dawn the Superman outfit?

I believe that was the original intention. To see him suit up in some sort of fashion for the final moments.

But given recent interviews with the new showrunners chances are slimmer and slimmer. I'm sure someone around here can point to a link of the recent interview where they mention issues with the movie division in regards to showing the suit.

They didn't elaborate if this was a restriction on long term use of the suit, and it would still be ok for the finale. Or if that meant they couldn't use it at all.

I for one hope they realize when the time comes you have to show us something. Especially the point the show is at now. I could see a few seasons back just teasing at it in the finale. But hell we are/will be Season 8/9 in Metropolis with almost all of the trimmings.

To me the suit is a must at the end.

[Webhead2006]

well yes they have said that but if we get a 9th season and if there is still no forward movement on another superman film be that sequel or a total reboot it would be smarter for wb to just let smallville do superman suit for an episode or two.

[Zorex]

I wouldn't get too worried about not seeing the suit, yet. If there's a season 9 (which looks increasingly likely), then there's a whole 'nother year for them to do whatever they need to do to be able to use the suit. If the series were ending this year, well, I'd be more concerned.

That said, they better show it, or they shall be hell to pay.

[ZIPBAGS]

I think their is NO WAY they don't at show him in the suite (even partially) in the finale. I know what the producers say. But, I think it would be a huge slap in the face to fans who have waited 8 or 9 seasons to see it. I think its possible that he could be lying. Get everyone off the notion that you will see it. And then have it in the finale and everyone will be surprised.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I wouldn't get too worried about not seeing the suit, yet. If there's a season 9 (which looks increasingly likely), then there's a whole 'nother year for them to do whatever they need to do to be able to use the suit. If the series were ending this year, well, I'd be more concerned.

That said, they better show it, or they shall be hell to pay.
Well lets look at it another way say GL starts shooting this year with a release for next year and they keep the Clark Kent/Superman cameo then you will more then likely see that rule enforced same goes if they find a Superman script they really like. SV best bet around this is to hope nothing comes about before the end of this season and just end it there with him in the suit because going another season you have to make him Superman there is no way around that and you have to put him in the suit. And the other problem is who is the say the WB would greenlight another season seeing as how serious they are on a new movie.

[Webhead2006]

it would be so disapointing not to get any sort of suit seen in series finale. I would atless be happy to see his to chest rip with the S shield behind some cloths. Though it all counts on how long the status of next superman film remains and if it doesnt look to be moving any more futher by the time season 9 happens they should atless let smallville have suit for finale whats it going to hurt by the time they even do agree to get another moving it probably wont be happening to 2011-2013 if its soon and by either dates smallville will be long over.

[DrMylesOBoogie]

i think 99% of the shows audience still watch it hoping to see Tom put the suit on. it would be criminal if it never happens.

[Zorex]

Well lets look at it another way say GL starts shooting this year with a release for next year and they keep the Clark Kent/Superman cameo then you will more then likely see that rule enforced same goes if they find a Superman script they really like. SV best bet around this is to hope nothing comes about before the end of this season and just end it there with him in the suit because going another season you have to make him Superman there is no way around that and you have to put him in the suit. And the other problem is who is the say the WB would greenlight another season seeing as how serious they are on a new movie.
Well, all I'm saying is, right now there's no way to tell what's going to happen. Firstly, I don't know why you think they'd not renew SV in favour of another film right now... Secondly, if the series were ending with this season, which we don't know for sure if it is or isn't, I think it'd be tough to expect to see the suit. Give them another season, though, and that's plenty of time for any complications to be worked out, minds changed, restrictions lessened... etc etc...

[Webhead2006]

Yea one thing is clear though right now film wise there is so much flip floping going on for supes let alone other dc characters smallville's restrictions should be finally released so they can do stuff.

[ZIPBAGS]

Just make Welling Superman already. Watching Smallville is like a big tease.

[Gmanofsteel]

^ An 8 year tease lol

[ZIPBAGS]

Actually, with the next Superman film still in Limbo...Well actually if they started production now. It still wouldn't be until 2010 at the earliest. Warner should just wake up and let Smallville have Clark wear the suite in season 9 and have him be Supes. Thus no conflict with the theatrical movie. Although, if the show gaines in popularity during the "Supes" season. They may want to make a Smallville movie.

[Webhead2006]

yea with all the problems for another superman film be that a singer sequel or the rumored reboot series over its going to be a long time before we are likely to see superman in theaters again. so they should just let smallville use the suit already.

[Gmanofsteel]

Here's a little comment from Smallville magazine's interview with Marc McCkure that I thought was interesting

"It goes back to the believability of that world. I thought Tom just had that. I think he is very good for the part. First of all, his look and stature are believable. The way he listens is a great thing for that character, because Superman is fom a different planet and constantly learning about human emotions. If Tom wanted to go to the big screen, he could do it".
- Marc McClure

[SamuraiSon6]

great compliment from marc

[p4poetic]

im sure this will be the final smallville season. i can't wait to see clark in the suit in the finale. i have to admit this season is awesum so far.

I think they'll just show him doing the shirt rip at the end, which IMO would be way better than see him walking around in the suit. Make it like Superboy.

http://manitobacomiccon.com/img/GC-Superboy-shirt-rip-1.jpg

[Mike_D202]

That would be the biggest cock tease ever.

[Webhead2006]

yea only way i would be happy with just getting the shirt rip with the S under is if they cant have the rights to do the suit.

[p4poetic]

Its a win win. Tom clearly does not want to wear the tights.

but yes, you're right. its cruel teasing, but I still think its a magnificent ending none the less.

[Webhead2006]

yea.

[ZIPBAGS]

Its a win win. Tom clearly does not want to wear the tights.

but yes, you're right. its cruel teasing, but I still think its a magnificent ending none the less.


I know its a debate as old as the Welling vs Routh. But, do we really know that he doesn't want to wear the suit? Most of this comes from his first interviews on the show about not wanting to wear the suit in season one since the show was about him BEFORE he became Supes. But, after 8 seasons and the show going way beyond what anyone else thought it would go. He might not be against it. Since it would show the natural progression of the character.

I also think this ties into the "no flight, no tights" comment from the producers. When they made that statement. The show hadn't even started and they were trying to set the show apart from every other Supes incarnation. Again, I think that only in their wildest dreams would the show last 8 seasons. It would only makes sense that after this long both flight and tights might have to come into play.

[Webhead2006]

well yes it was true during the early years of the show like season 1-5 he has come out and said he doesnt want to wear tights and all that. But with the way the show has changed direction this yr and him in a much happier place on where clark kent character is going. Maybe he is willing to done some suit of costume, probably still not full on tights but maybe jacket/pant costume deal like jl characters have.

[ZIPBAGS]

FYI- Over in the Superman sequel forum. The cast Superman thread has a poll of who should be the next Supes. And Routh is beating Welling by 14 votes. Welling fans might want to visit the thread.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Voted. Please vote as well you guys.

[Webhead2006]

yes everyone should make a vote if they want.

[Billy Batson]

FYI- Over in the Superman sequel forum. The cast Superman thread has a poll of who should be the next Supes. And Routh is beating Welling by 14 votes. Welling fans might want to visit the thread.

No need they're Pro Routh over there, besides those polls always end up closed, or people like myself get placed on time out / Banned for debating why Routh sucks and Welling rocks. :whatever:

Welling receive more love and respect as Superman in public opinion than the guy who actually portrayed :supes: anyway. LMAO!

vZTAZ6-acRY&NR=1

[Garth Ranzz]

It doesn't matter if Routh beats Welling in one poll, because from what I can tell, the general consensus is that Welling is a much better Clark/Supes/Kal-El than Routh, and it's true. No matter how much you liked Returns, Singer tried too hard to make Routh like Reeve, and there's only one Chris Reeve. Smallville never dreamed of imitating past performances, and that's why the characters work so well.

People may think Welling is a horrible actor or that Smallville is horrid (mainly because of changes from the comics) but if he went to the big screen, it'd be one of those thing where I bet once they show the trailer, everyone who wasn't a fan starts to act as if they never doubted him.

I'm all for Welling being Superman, but only if Smallville is over by the next Superman movie. He's got the experience, the look, and everything else.

[MAN O STEEL]

If Welling don't resign for season 9, they could always continue the show with Routh as CK :oldrazz::woot:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5028/singularml8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

[Garth Ranzz]

Yeah, and the show will instantly drop in ratings, and then be cancelled. Without Welling, there is no Smallville.

[SamuraiSon6]

ha...

[AgentPat]

With all due respect folks, please stop posting pictures of Routh here. He has no business being in this thread. Ever.

[Garth Ranzz]

Agreed, not even manips should be here. This is a thread for Welling specifically, not Routh.

[Webhead2006]

well most reports have indicated that welling is or has signed for a 9th, we are just waiting from cw end if they want to keep the show. Which we and the producers need to know within the next few weeks since episode 18 is due to be filming in a few weeks and the producers have said before they need to know cw's decision on a 9th or not for the last few episodes.

[DaJanksta]

man honestly I think the acting of routh in superman returns sucked. I think TW does a much better job. he has emotion in his face. ugh i hate it. unfortunately the more I see TW this season the more I hate SR

[Billy Batson]

If Welling don't resign for season 9, they could always continue the show with Routh as CK :oldrazz::woot:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5028/singularml8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Hey it's Michael Jackson. :pal:

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[DrMylesOBoogie]

please vote here

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=310176

[Serene]

Everyone have their seatbelts on and adjusted?

Good. Because the turbulence is about to resume. :D


http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/11/the-wachowski-brothers-to-direct-superman-reboot/

[RakuMon]

Everyone have their seatbelts on and adjusted?

Good. Because the turbulence is about to resume. :D


http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/11/the-wachowski-brothers-to-direct-superman-reboot/

I was about to post that news from First Showing:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/02/11/rumor-wachowskis-directing-rebooted-superman-trilogy/

One of the commenters at Slash Film said cast Jon Hamm as Superman. I have to admit, I like the idea.

Maybe we can get Tina Fey as Lois Lane? ;)

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/06/jon_hamm_collage.jpg

If we can't get Welling and Durance, I'd go for Hamm and Fey.

[triplet]

Interesting...

Well, if there isn't a Season 9, Tom will be free to do that, if the Wachowskis' like him.

[RakuMon]

From EW:

Question: Has Tom Welling signed on for season 9 of Smallville yet? -- Pat
Ausiello: No. I'm not sure what's taking so long.

Hmmmm.... I wonder.....

Could it be? :eek:

:cool:

(btw, curious that the questioner is named "Pat," no ;))

[The Incredible Hulk]

And...here...we...go

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ostrich.gif

[RakuMon]

And...here...we...go

[Bale growl]There won't be any fireworks![/Bale growl]

[triplet]

[Bale growl]There won't be any fireworks![/Bale growl]

LOL!

:D

Well, I guess we'll see what happens, but I would guess that fireworks are going to happen no matter what, so your Bale growling isn't going to help...

[Prison Mike]

I was about to post that news from First Showing:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/02/11/rumor-wachowskis-directing-rebooted-superman-trilogy/

One of the commenters at Slash Film said cast Jon Hamm as Superman. I have to admit, I like the idea.

Maybe we can get Tina Fey as Lois Lane? ;)

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/06/jon_hamm_collage.jpg

If we can't get Welling and Durance, I'd go for Hamm and Fey.

I like Hamm a lot but think he would be a great fit for Jor-El. I think who ever plays Superman should look a little younger. But Hamm is perfect to play Jor-El, IMO.

[Webhead2006]

hmm i wonder if its true that tom hasnt signed yet, i thought it was pretty sure he did awhile back. I do hope he does sign and we get a confirmation on 9th season.

[ZIPBAGS]

I wonder if the delay in season 9 announcements is due to Warner deciding how the Supes reboot will go?

Someone needs to ask the Wachowski's if they like Smallville and a particular actor in the show. ;)

[ZIPBAGS]

I wonder if the delay in season 9 announcements is due to Warner deciding how the Supes reboot will go?

Someone needs to ask the Wachowski's if they like Smallville and a particular actor in the show. ;)

[Webhead2006]

doubt thats really a reason either way a reboot film or another superman film at the less amount of time would be like 2 yrs away.

[mellyM]

Interesting...

Well, if there isn't a Season 9, Tom will be free to do that, if the Wachowskis' like him.

I'm still not convinced Tom even wants to play Superman on the big screen

[triplet]

I'm still not convinced Tom even wants to play Superman on the big screen

I guess that remains to be seen, but I know I'd prefer him over anyone.

And aren't my preferences what's important?

;)

[ZIPBAGS]

I am sure this fan made trailer has been discussed. But, I don't remember seeing it. While, not the quality of WormyT's trailer. This was had some cool moments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3jqzso0qg

[Lane & Kent]

I am sure this fan made trailer has been discussed. But, I don't remember seeing it. While, not the quality of WormyT's trailer. This was had some cool moments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3jqzso0qg

That was so cool. Thanks for sharing.

[blksuperman2]

I am sure this fan made trailer has been discussed. But, I don't remember seeing it. While, not the quality of WormyT's trailer. This was had some cool moments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3jqzso0qg


Thanks for posting. It's decent. Some parts are really crude and not done very well though. The "CW" watermarks that weren't cropped was distracting too.

[ZIPBAGS]

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/735/ayk1sfvfebyz5.jpg
:)

[RakuMon]

Everyone have their seatbelts on and adjusted?

Good. Because the turbulence is about to resume. :D


http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/11/the-wachowski-brothers-to-direct-superman-reboot/

The seat belt sign is off. Feel free to move about the cabin.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/18/rumor-killer-the-wachowski-brothers-not-offered-superman-reboot/

[AgentPat]

"...but The Wachowski Brothers have definitely never had any talks with DC or Warner Bros to helm a Superman film. This is confirmed."

LOL! Is that a fact? Hm. Who to believe... who to believe.... :p

[JackMercy]

"...but The Wachowski Brothers have definitely never had any talks with DC or Warner Bros to helm a Superman film. This is confirmed."

LOL! Is that a fact? Hm. Who to believe... who to believe.... :p

Yep. "It's a fact." Confirmed by my half-brother Bud, but he has a tendency to "embellish" things...

:word:

[Serene]

Back to the terminal then. ;)

James Cameron, to direct and write, with writing support from Geoff Johns.

I think that would work for me.

Now, who to cast..? I have a few ideas. :word:

[ReTrO JuNkIe 42]

WOW The Wachowski Brothers would be a horrible choice, i hope this is just a rumor

[Prison Mike]

at least we can move on now...

[gohei_]

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/735/ayk1sfvfebyz5.jpg
:)

That image is amazing :yay: If he ever puts on the suit, in a movie or the series, it should look exactly like that :woot:

[Webhead2006]

yea it would be pretty interesting to see what the W bros could have brought to supes but if you been following the rumors it was confirmed to not been true.

[Docker2.0]

So when is SHH going to post the news about the Wach boys helming Supes?.....and Welling starring in the lead role? ;)

[Webhead2006]

umm that news was confirmed to been false for a couple of days now. Though they would be interesting to see what they could bring to the table, surely it would be a nice action packed film.

[Docker2.0]

When it comes to WB, I seriously doubt its false. A lot of times, those dumb asses will plant news out there just to see the reaction, then go out and try to make it real news.....IF its positive. A month from now, we'll be hearing this stirred up again. :o

[Webhead2006]

true but its been confirmed by a few news sites that it isnt true right now. I do hope who ever they give the reigns to superman will do a better job then what singer did.

[JackMercy]

When it comes to WB, I seriously doubt its false. A lot of times, those dumb asses will plant news out there just to see the reaction, then go out and try to make it real news.....IF its positive. A month from now, we'll be hearing this stirred up again. :o

I love you, too, Docker.

:word:

[triplet]

So, what's up with this new viral campaign?

According to SupermanHomePage, they got sent a flash drive a printed copy of this Daily Planet and some letter from 'Jimmy Olsen'....

:confused:

http://www.dailyplanetspecialedition.com/default.htm

http://www.jimmystruth2power.com/

Is there anything more definite going on with this new Superman film than had been mentioned before?

[spark627]

Looks more like an ad for 6 flags then Superman...

[mellyM]

So, what's up with this new viral campaign?

According to SupermanHomePage, they got sent a flash drive a printed copy of this Daily Planet and some letter from 'Jimmy Olsen'....

:confused:

http://www.dailyplanetspecialedition.com/default.htm

http://www.jimmystruth2power.com/

Is there anything more definite going on with this new Superman film than had been mentioned before?

Its just a promotion for the Superman ride at Six Flags

[triplet]

Its just a promotion for the Superman ride at Six Flags

Oh, gotcha....

Reading the SupermanHomePage story, it wasn't clear so thanks.

[Webhead2006]

yea it was just on that new superman coster.

[Docker2.0]

Tom has only done Cheaper by the Dozen movies and the Fog.........so I don't think he has many options when Smallville ends. He should just play Supes on the big screen and get a big payday. He says he doesn't want to be typecast but let's be real: its to late to throw that fish back in the ocean when he's already on the grill. :o Time is running out for him becuase he's already 31 so it would be in his best interest to accept the part now so that when he gets older he won't wonder what if.......that or he's on VH1's Surreal Life becuase he's become a has been after Smallville. :csad:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Keep in mind, Tom's ability to do films is severely hampered by his smallville commitment. He's on set 12 hours a day fpr 6 days a week for about 9 months a year. His only time to do films would be A) on the 3 month summer hiatus (which is a very small window for shooting any type of "big" film) or B) something in Vancouver where he can run back and forth between the sets. The CBTD films are an example of A, and The Fog is an example of group B.

[Serene]

Time is running out for him becuase he's already 31 so it would be in his best interest to accept the part now so that when he gets older he won't wonder what if.......

I still have hope. Call me crazy, but I do. Tom is turning 32 next month, and by the time he's finished with SV, perhaps TPTB will have gotten their cumulative shizzle together enough to be ready for a Superman movie featuring all 30's and up mature actors. That's my bubble; don't anyone pop it. :word:

And even if he never plays Superman on the big screen, it's still pretty damn cool that he has played Clark Kent (SV and Metropolis) longer than any other actor in history. :up:

that or he's on VH1's Surreal Life becuase he's become a has been after Smallville. :csad:

With Tom's personal background, that will never happen. I think it's safe to assume that he's very financially secure.

Keep in mind, Tom's ability to do films is severely hampered by his smallville commitment. He's on set 12 hours a day fpr 6 days a week for about 9 months a year. His only time to do films would be A) on the 3 month summer hiatus (which is a very small window for shooting any type of "big" film) or B) something in Vancouver where he can run back and forth between the sets. The CBTD films are an example of A, and The Fog is an example of group B.

Can we just make that ^ a sticky? ;)

[AgentPat]

...A month from now, we'll be hearing this stirred up again. :oOr not.

One month, nothing.
Two months, nothing.
Three months? [Checks watch.] Guess it's time.

Bumping for the next round....

[Prison Mike]

oh...I thought there was some news. :csad:

[AgentPat]

oh...I thought there was some news. :csad:Well, there is interesting chatter going on elsewhere regarding Welling and Smallville's future, so I expect it to migrate here shortly. ;)

I'm just going to throw this out there because it's been bugging me. There's too many radical changes seemingly being made on the fly right now. Take the faux Jimmy, for example. I don't believe for one second the producers cast Aaron Ashmore as Jimmy Olsen three years ago with the knowledge that they would eventually have to retcon him. How dumb is that? As recent as the 7th season's DVD, Ashmore was profiled along with Larson, McClure and Huntington in the Jimmy Olsen retrospective. This sudden need to realign the show with the mythos by youngifiying Jimmy - an arguably very insignificant detail when in Smallville continuity, there's a permanent krypto-powered Lana Lang running around the globe playing superhero - is very suspicious. There's no sense to either bonehead decision as you either keep to the mythos or you don't. Even DC's Gregory I'm-so-confused Noveck pointed out that SV's very nature as an elseworld's tale grants it more wiggle room in the mythos. So why the major change with Jimmy? Something is just fishy there.

The other thing that makes me wonder is Welling resigning for two years. Now I know the two years part is standard (as opposed to one year). What I don't know is the size of the wheelbarrow they used to hold all of that non-existent cash they had to offer him. Was it in the form of executive producer's credits? Or did they go the route of studio put pics? For example, sign onto SV for two more years, and we'll guarantee you first dibs on three WB films over the next five years. Something like that. What's the catch here? Is there some major change in store for the show next season that interested him enough to stay for another two years?

Anyhoo, I'm curious to see the approach they take next year. Because the about-face they took halfway through this season left me confused and a bit annoyed. It all started so wonderfully and then it took a nosedive? :dry:

[Webhead2006]

Yea it does make you wonder what is up with dc and its control over the show.

[Zing79]

Well, there is interesting chatter going on elsewhere regarding Welling and Smallville's future, so I expect it to migrate here shortly. ;)

I'm just going to throw this out there because it's been bugging me. There's too many radical changes seemingly being made on the fly right now. Take the faux Jimmy, for example. I don't believe for one second the producers cast Aaron Ashmore as Jimmy Olsen three years ago with the knowledge that they would eventually have to retcon him. How dumb is that? As recent as the 7th season's DVD, Ashmore was profiled along with Larson, McClure and Huntington in the Jimmy Olsen retrospective. This sudden need to realign the show with the mythos by youngifiying Jimmy - an arguably very insignificant detail when in Smallville continuity, there's a permanent krypto-powered Lana Lang running around the globe playing superhero - is very suspicious. There's no sense to either bonehead decision as you either keep to the mythos or you don't. Even DC's Gregory I'm-so-confused Noveck pointed out that SV's very nature as an elseworld's tale grants it more wiggle room in the mythos. So why the major change with Jimmy? Something is just fishy there.

The other thing that makes me wonder is Welling resigning for two years. Now I know the two years part is standard (as opposed to one year). What I don't know is the size of the wheelbarrow they used to hold all of that non-existent cash they had to offer him. Was it in the form of executive producer's credits? Or did they go the route of studio put pics? For example, sign onto SV for two more years, and we'll guarantee you first dibs on three WB films over the next five years. Something like that. What's the catch here? Is there some major change in store for the show next season that interested him enough to stay for another two years?

Anyhoo, I'm curious to see the approach they take next year. Because the about-face they took halfway through this season left me confused and a bit annoyed. It all started so wonderfully and then it took a nosedive? :dry:

AHEM - Maybe you could be so kind as to summarize that chatter for my (and everyone else's) consumption in this thread :woot: I lead a busy life - I have no time for searches. SPARE ME!!! SAVE ME!!!

[triplet]

Yeah, color me confused.

I haven't heard anything, but I don't really go anywhere else except for here and k-site. I just don't have time to go digging around the interwebs the way I used to.

If you can fill us in, Pat, I'd be happy to hear it.

As for his contract, I don't know if I'd buy him signing onto a superman themed film... he'll be tied to a Superman show for 10 seasons. They'd have to throw him a boat load of money, or promised cut of gross, in order to have him sign up for playing the same character for maybe another 7 or 8 years past that. Seriously, they'd have to shell because that'd mean most of his adult life playing the same character.

Although, that probably worked out for Kelsey Grammer (he played Frasier for 18 years with both Cheers and the spin-off, Frasier) and James Arness (he played Marshal Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke for 20 years).

[Gmanofsteel]

It is official that Welling has signed for 2 years, or a rumor?

[triplet]

It is official that Welling has signed for 2 years, or a rumor?

It makes sense.

Two year extensions are fairly standard, I believe.

[ZIPBAGS]

AgentPat,

So if I read your post right. Do you think Smallville making the Ashmore Jimmy not the real Jimmy is related to them wanting to put Smallville more in line with the comics so they can move Welling to the big screen? I also want to know what the scuttlebut is??

[Zorex]

Well, there is interesting chatter going on elsewhere regarding Welling and Smallville's future, so I expect it to migrate here shortly. ;)

Why wait? Share!

I'm just going to throw this out there because it's been bugging me...
I agree with all of that. It's just... odd, given the show's nature as being different from the traditional mythos.

What's the catch here? Is there some major change in store for the show next season that interested him enough to stay for another two years?

A major change? Got any wild guesses, Pat?

Anyhoo, I'm curious to see the approach they take next year. Because the about-face they took halfway through this season left me confused and a bit annoyed. It all started so wonderfully and then it took a nosedive? :dry:
Yeah, my roommate, who caught up on the show on DVD last year and watched last season and this season with me, was amazed at the sudden change mid-season. He, too, was impressed by where the show was going, and surprised to see it all of a sudden go... bleh.

[AgentPat]

Let me be clear, I don't expect to see Welling in a Superman feature film. That ship has sailed. My expectation is that a traditional Superman film is a few more years away at best, and many more years away at worst. So, moving on...

My previous post was in regards to Smallville, and what may or may not be in store for us next season. Why did Welling resign? Beats me, but that carrot must have been re-heeeely nice. Just sayin'.

The scuttlebut is on S.S. I know - Steve doth not credible make. But rumors are fun, and the newest ones sound plausible.

Anyhoo, gotta run... dinner. :)

[Prison Mike]

but what's the newest rumor? Don't leave us hangin' Pat!

[Zorex]

Let me be clear, I don't expect to see Welling in a Superman feature film. That ship has sailed. My expectation is that a traditional Superman film is a few more years away at best, and many more years away at worst. So, moving on...

Didn't think so, but... sadly, I agree that a traditional Superman film is... a ways off...

My previous post was in regards to Smallville, and what may or may not be in store for us next season. Why did Welling resign? Beats me, but that carrot must have been re-heeeely nice. Just sayin'.

The scuttlebut is on S.S. I know - Steve doth not credible make. But rumors are fun, and the newest ones sound plausible.

Anyhoo, gotta run... dinner. :)
Tease. ;)

[Zorex]

OooooooOOOOOOoo....

rumours are fun. :eek: :p

[zerohour films]

Ok, I should get some kind of medal for having to go over to that site and do this, but here is what Pat is referring to....

According to Steve (from you know where so take it as you will):


**UPDATE**

Since I barely have enough time for my own website let alone try and look at others, I have no idea if this has been announced anywhere yet. So if it has, great. If not, yay for me...

1. Tom Welling has not only signed for a 9th season, but a 10th as well.
2. Discussions have been taking place to transition the show into a full blown Superman series as it's been 13 years since we had one and WB wants talk of Welling and the film franchise to die off quietly. I was completely dead on with my assumption that Doomsday being buried was a set-up for next season. They have something really huge planned.
3. The suit was designed and would have been in the final episode if they did not get a 9th season, but Welling apparently now feels it should not be brought into the show yet. This could change if it goes all out Superman.

So says Exec Producer Brian Peterson....


Link: http://www.savesuperman.com/home

Now I feel all dirty...:woot:....:csad:

[Mike_D202]

I'll believe it when I see it :o

[Dark Helmet]

At this point Bruce Wayne has a better chance of showing up on Smallville then seeing Tom Welling wear the suit & the odds suck for both of them

& keep your pants on fannies I am using Bruce Wayne as an example

[Prison Mike]

I really can't see Tom agreeing to do a superman show after this. I call bull!

[Dark Helmet]

If Tom keeps agreeing to say yes it will eventually have to become a Superman show. It would suck if this lasted as long as the Simpsons & he is still not Superman

[Gmanofsteel]

I'll believe it when I see it :o

I agree, sounds too much like what I would want to hear. Time shall tell.

[heliorei]

**UPDATE**

Since I barely have enough time for my own website let alone try and look at others, I have no idea if this has been announced anywhere yet. So if it has, great. If not, yay for me...

1. Tom Welling has not only signed for a 9th season, but a 10th as well.
2. Discussions have been taking place to transition the show into a full blown Superman series as it's been 13 years since we had one and WB wants talk of Welling and the film franchise to die off quietly. I was completely dead on with my assumption that Doomsday being buried was a set-up for next season. They have something really huge planned.
3. The suit was designed and would have been in the final episode if they did not get a 9th season, but Welling apparently now feels it should not be brought into the show yet. This could change if it goes all out Superman.

So says Exec Producer Brian Peterson....


I think there is too much wishful thinking here: yeah sure the whole fake Jimmy thing and Doomsday being buried alive is one thing and it aligns to some sort of comic continuity but we have to be pratical when it comes to business.

They can't make a Superman show with the kind of budget Smallville has these days: CW doesn't have the money and it would have to go to another network and so far the only one which I think could pick up something like this, is NBC.

Can other network advertise this like a new show?

Then Tom's thinking: he's going to play a character for 15 years (something like that)? I Think the only reason why Tom signed for another two years it's because of the world's economical crisis and with no Tom, no Smallville. Tom must have felt the weight of having of people working for the show and suddenly, it could mean no more work.

Then what about the others? Michael, Erica, Annette, Michael Mckean?

They can all say: sure, just give the people money but in Tom's case, it would have to be some really large amount of money. I'm betting the new contract Tom has signed, must be paying him a ridiculous amount of money.

As much as I want Tom in a Superman show, I want the rest of the Smallville's cast as well: it would be unfair if TPTB would recast some roles...

But again it sounds too much wishful thinking.

[roach]

im throwing the BS flag

[Mike_D202]

And I'm saluting it.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I think with the whole Doomsday/Jimmy thing something is up, hopefully they are realigning with the comics because they plan to use Tom in the new movie but I wouldn't be surprised if the whole Superman series would be true.
Warner knows that as much as they try to force feed other actors in the role, there are still legions of fans that call for Welling to be taking on the mantle and every new actor would have to be compared to him. They may think that by throwing us a bone in the form of a new Superman show would shut us up. I say it will only get worse as even a single shot of Welling in the suit will be a PR nightmare for Warner Bros. and any new actor they choose to eventually replace Routh.
Something is definitly up.

[roach]

Something is up and it wishes and dreams...Smallville doesnt the budget to do a Superman show the way it needs to be done. I the WB cared about the "legions" of Welling fans then he would have been cast in Returns. Smallville is a cash cow and they are going to milk the viewers for as long as they can on the promise that one day he's going to be Superman.

[SsM]

Now that the show has been moved to Friday night I doubt it will return for a tenth season.

[ironman29758]

At this point Bruce Wayne has a better chance of showing up on Smallville then seeing Tom Welling wear the suit & the odds suck for both of them

& keep your pants on fannies I am using Bruce Wayne as an example
well we heard various lines talking about Batman and Gotham and there was three characters that remind me of Batman(Green Arrow, Angel of Vengeance and Adam Knight)

[Prison Mike]

I remember references to Gotham but not Batman...

[Zing79]

Now that the show has been moved to Friday night I doubt it will return for a tenth season.
I'm not sure where you got this info - but I've not seen it reported anywhere that SV has been moved to Friday nights.

It would be the dumbest thing ever to move your highest rated show to the deadest night of the week. Even CW isn't that stupid (/hopes).

[KalKai]

Zing, it's all over the place.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3iffc06e063f84acf6eb87b4f683443d23
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/

[Zing79]

Zing, it's all over the place.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3iffc06e063f84acf6eb87b4f683443d23
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/
I stand corrected - and shocked to anger

[Gmanofsteel]

WTF :confused:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Something is up and it wishes and dreams...Smallville doesnt the budget to do a Superman show the way it needs to be done. I the WB cared about the "legions" of Welling fans then he would have been cast in Returns. Smallville is a cash cow and they are going to milk the viewers for as long as they can on the promise that one day he's going to be Superman.

Congrats, In the span of just two sentences you've completely contradicted yourself but yet also answered your own question. :up:

[Showtime]

Ok, I should get some kind of medal for having to go over to that site and do this, but here is what Pat is referring to....

According to Steve (from you know where so take it as you will):



Link: http://www.savesuperman.com/home

Now I feel all dirty...:woot:....:csad:

If you were WB and you were planning to launch Smallville into a Superman TV Series, nevermind a 10th season of Smallville, would your move your show to Friday night....

[MAN O STEEL]

This is my lame attempt at what I thought I'd see at the end of Doomsday this season. I wanted him named Superman & for his letter to get published as he asked Lois to do. Could have been done better with better hands I guess, but I did what i could.



http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8701/framei.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=framei.jpg)









Steve

[zerohour films]

If you were WB and you were planning to launch Smallville into a Superman TV Series, nevermind a 10th season of Smallville, would your move your show to Friday night....

No...but don't tell you know who that.:cwink:

[Lighthouse]

Ugh. SaveSuperman just needs to stop.

[roach]

Congrats, In the span of just two sentences you've completely contradicted yourself but yet also answered your own question. :up:

How did I do that????
My post was on two subjects..Tom Welling being cast as Superman in the new movie because of the fans and the show becoming a Superman show.

[ironman29758]

I remember references to Gotham but not Batman...
Well not Batman persay but lines like "It's like keeping bats around to wipe out the parasites that prey on the city."
and
http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne#Batman_Allusions

[The Incredible Hulk]

How did I do that????
My post was on two subjects..Tom Welling being cast as Superman in the new movie because of the fans and the show becoming a Superman show.


You did it because in the first sentence that I bolded you state that WB would've put him in Returns it it cared about his fans, but then go on to say in the next sentence that WB will milk Smallville for all it's worth since it's cash cow.

Well, if they're intent on "milking a show for all it's worth" they arent going to kill it by pulling out it's lead actor for a feature film. Smallville being a cash cow, as you so aptly stated, was the very reason why Welling never had a shot at being cast in Returns. You don't kill a golden goose in the hopes that another one will spring up in it's place. You go out and try to find a 2nd Golden goose.

[Syncos]

I think there is too much wishful thinking here: yeah sure the whole fake Jimmy thing and Doomsday being buried alive is one thing and it aligns to some sort of comic continuity but we have to be pratical when it comes to business.

They can't make a Superman show with the kind of budget Smallville has these days: CW doesn't have the money and it would have to go to another network and so far the only one which I think could pick up something like this, is NBC.

Can other network advertise this like a new show?

Then Tom's thinking: he's going to play a character for 15 years (something like that)? I Think the only reason why Tom signed for another two years it's because of the world's economical crisis and with no Tom, no Smallville. Tom must have felt the weight of having of people working for the show and suddenly, it could mean no more work.

Then what about the others? Michael, Erica, Annette, Michael Mckean?

They can all say: sure, just give the people money but in Tom's case, it would have to be some really large amount of money. I'm betting the new contract Tom has signed, must be paying him a ridiculous amount of money.

As much as I want Tom in a Superman show, I want the rest of the Smallville's cast as well: it would be unfair if TPTB would recast some roles...

But again it sounds too much wishful thinking.

Not that i'm putting any stock into the rumors posted by Steve, but what makes you think a Superman show would cost more than Smallville? Give Clark glasses and a Suit to fly around in, and it's pretty much superman.

They've shown that flight is perfectly within their budget. It's just the effects they've used in previous flight scenes with clark have gone all out. they weren't just the motion blurr we've come to expect with kara or manhunter or cosmic boy. Super jumps transitioned the same way. It used to be waves of energy coming off of him and a really impressive feat. now he just kinda jumps and a motion blur follows him to his destination.

Also, I think people are misinterpreting the "transition to a superman show" quote. I'm pretty sure that was meant to say that Smallville would just continue on into the life of Superman. It's not going to go another 5 years because of it...

[roach]

You did it because in the first sentence that I bolded you state that WB would've put him in Returns it it cared about his fans, but then go on to say in the next sentence that WB will milk Smallville for all it's worth since it's cash cow.

Well, if they're intent on "milking a show for all it's worth" they arent going to kill it by pulling out it's lead actor for a feature film. Smallville being a cash cow, as you so aptly stated, was the very reason why Welling never had a shot at being cast in Returns. You don't kill a golden goose in the hopes that another one will spring up in it's place. You go out and try to find a 2nd Golden goose.

you are saying exactly what I said

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/03/brandon-rouths-superman-contract-has-lapsed/

[Prison Mike]

Interesting...

[triplet]

I'm surprised any one had hopes left for that franchise.

:eek:

[Prison Mike]

Routh probably did. I feel bad since it wasn't much of his fault the movie was bad. He hardly had any lines.

[triplet]

Routh probably did. I feel bad since it wasn't much of his fault the movie was bad. He hardly had any lines.

No, it wasn't his fault. Yet, if he'd been a more experienced actor he might have hesitated to sign on in the first place. I don't think a more seasoned actor would have wanted to ape another's performance rather than create his own take on the character.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/03/brandon-rouths-superman-contract-has-lapsed/

Thanks for the link.

[Fresh Prince]

Routh probably did. I feel bad since it wasn't much of his fault the movie was bad. He hardly had any lines.

You know whats funny Brandon Routh tried out for Smallville but the role went to Tom Welling and Tom Welling tried out for Superman Returns but the role went to Brandon Routh.

But yeah i agree Routh is a good actor its not his fault SR sucked it was Bryan Singer and the script. Making Superman a stalker with a kid and having to deal with a *****y Lois Lane and being ''christ'' like.

[Prison Mike]

I don't think Welling tried out for Superman Returns.

[triplet]

I don't think Welling tried out for Superman Returns.

I don't think it was really an option. They woulda had to cancel the fourth season, I think, and Warner's probably wasn't willing to see the show end yet.

He'll, they don't seem to want to let it ever end.

:rolleyes:

[B]

I don't think Welling tried out for Superman Returns.

From what I understand he didn't try out for Singer & his Superman Returns film, however he me Brett Ratner at his home about becoming Superman in his film before he left the project & was supposedly one of Ratner's top choices for the role, however the fact that he was still doing Smallville & if he went to do the film the show would near enough just have to end abruptly prevented him from taking it any further

[Prison Mike]

I also heard about Al Gough and Miles Millar getting possessive of Welling and tried to interrupt any progress of him getting a Superman role because that would mean the end of Smallville. This was all rumors and nothing concrete of course.

[Syncos]

You know whats funny Brandon Routh tried out for Smallville but the role went to Tom Wellingp That is funny.
and Tom Welling tried out for Superman Returns but the role went to Brandon Routh.

That didn't happen. The first part was funny though.

[Fresh Prince]

That is funny.

That didn't happen. The first part was funny though.

I thought Welling did try out for SR oh well sorry people my bad.

You think Routh would of been a good/better Clark Kent then Welling?

[Fresh Prince]

I don't think it was really an option. They woulda had to cancel the fourth season, I think, and Warner's probably wasn't willing to see the show end yet.

He'll, they don't seem to want to let it ever end.

:rolleyes:

Well i do not blame then slighty it just started to become good really. But i think after season 10 they should end it mind as well go up to 10 they in 9 now.

[Syncos]

Well i do not blame then slighty it just started to become good really. But i think after season 10 they should end it mind as well go up to 10 they in 9 now.

I can agree with this. 10 does sound like a perfect ending stone. After all, if 100 episodes guarantee syndication, what does 200 guarantee? Super syndication?

[Syncos]

I thought Welling did try out for SR oh well sorry people my bad.

You think Routh would of been a good/better Clark Kent then Welling?

I think Welling has him beat. But they're playing different Clark Kent's.
Yeah, Welling didn't try out for Returns, as others have mentioned, he was in talks to do it before Singer came on board.

[Webhead2006]

Yea i heard about welling meeting with ratner when he was on board before singer took reigns of superman film. Also i remember hearing about the whole al/miles deal too on welling. Also if we want to get into who else tested for clark in smallville, jensen ackles aka jason i read also tried out for clark role.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Welling never tried out for SR under Singer. He met with Ratner when he was in charge like B said. There were also rumors that he talked to McG about the part, but I've never seen confirmation of that one way or the other.

[Fresh Prince]

I can agree with this. 10 does sound like a perfect ending stone. After all, if 100 episodes guarantee syndication, what does 200 guarantee? Super syndication?

Yeah but i want Clark as Superman the whole season of season 10.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Warner Bros. and DC Comics Win Superman Case

Source:Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118005806.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
July 8, 2009

Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118005806.html?categoryid=13&cs=1) reports that Warner Bros. and DC Comics have won a favorable ruling in the suit filed by the heirs of "Superman (http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=8492#)" co-creator Jerome Siegel. Here are some excerpts from the ruling:

In a decision announced Wednesday, U.S. Judge District Court Judge Stephen G. Larson found that the license fees the studio paid to corporate sibling DC Comics didn't represent "sweetheart" deals as they weren't below fair market value. That means the heirs will be able seek profits only from DC Comics -- which earned $13.6 million from Warner Bros. for the 2006 release of "Superman Returns" -- rather than from Warner Bros. as well.

The judge, who conducted a 10-day bench trial, also noted that Warner Bros. chairman Alan Horn had testified that he hopes to make another "Superman" movie but added that the property wasn't under development at the studio, that no script had been written and that the earliest another "Superman" pic could be released would be in 2012.

Toberoff also asserted in a written statement that the Siegel heirs and the heirs of co-creator Joe Shuster will own the entire Superman copyright in 2013.

"The Court pointedly ruled that if Warner Bros. does not start production on another Superman film by 2011, the Siegels will be able to sue to recover their damages," Toberoff added.


And.here.we.go.

[Zorex]

Aw dang...

[Prison Mike]

this superman movie will definitely not be related to Smallville...

[ZIPBAGS]

this superman movie will definitely not be related to Smallville...

Actually, this could bode well for a Smallville movie. Smallville already has a lot of the pre-production for a movie done. Just have to switch from tv to theatrical. And a 2011 release would allow a season 9 then proceed to film a movie for 2011.

[redtail]

With luck it won't be related to Routh or Superman Returns either.

[Fresh Prince]

[/size][/font]


And.here.we.go.






Hey f thats the only way to get a Superman movie going again so be it.

[Fresh Prince]

Actually, this could bode well for a Smallville movie. Smallville already has a lot of the pre-production for a movie done. Just have to switch from tv to theatrical. And a 2011 release would allow a season 9 then proceed to film a movie for 2011.

A Smallville movie in thearters?:hehe: No! Alot of people want this seires to end how you think they will feel for a Smallville movie. Plus its not even based off real Superman events just made up esleworlds comics. Also Tom Welling also won't even put the suit on so how that also gonna work for a movie?

I mean if they do the movie right then it can be great but they will just **** it all up and be worst then Superman Returns was. Then Superman franchise will be in a deeper hole then what it already heading towards.

[spark627]

A Smallville movie in thearters?:hehe: No! Alot of people want this seires to end how you think they will feel for a Smallville movie. Plus its not even based off real Superman events just made up esleworlds comics. Also Tom Welling also won't even put the suit on so how that also gonna work for a movie?

I mean if they do the movie right then it can be great but they will just **** it all up and be worst then Superman Returns was. Then Superman franchise will be in a deeper hole then what it already heading towards.


There are rumors he will be wearing the suit in season 9... hoepfulyl this is true.

[triplet]

Ausiello said the :super: would be on his chest, I'm not sure that necessarily means he'll be wearing the suit.

Yes, I probably should cancel the google and yahoo alerts I have, way too many spoilers end up in the description of the news items.

:(

[B]

Ausiello said the :super: would be on his chest, I'm not sure that necessarily means he'll be wearing the suit.

Yes, I probably should cancel the google and yahoo alerts I have, way too many spoilers end up in the description of the news items.

:wow: I am intrigued..

Don't...want...to... read... spoilers..... just....yet.... MUST... RESIST!... :woot:

[Prison Mike]

Actually, this could bode well for a Smallville movie. Smallville already has a lot of the pre-production for a movie done. Just have to switch from tv to theatrical. And a 2011 release would allow a season 9 then proceed to film a movie for 2011.

I don't know. Smallville and SR polarizes fans too much. If they are really serious about this, they better start fresh.

[The Incredible Hulk]

2 things:

1. The judge said they have to be in production by 2011 not a theatrical release by then. Theoretically they could go into production in late 2011 and we wouldn't see a film until 2013 if schedules dictated.

2. This is monumentally bad news for the Superman franchise if you look below the surface. For one, it motivates the studio to make a movie quickly. Second, it's in their interests to make it cheap. Given that SR wasn't highly profitable for them and the overall economy is in the toilet still, they wont green light a big $150+ million budget Superman and risk losing 10's of millions of dollars just to save themselves from having to pay out a few million in damages to Siegel and Shuster. Knowing WB like we know them, they'll put out something that's barely passable as a Superman film for the sake of avoiding the damages and maintaining the property. I wonder when George Miller's phone will start ringing?

[Fresh Prince]

I don't know. Smallville and SR polarizes fans too much. If they are really serious about this, they better start fresh.

Agreed SV too dumb at times and SR was too lame at times.

[Fresh Prince]

2 things:

1. The judge said they have to be in production by 2011 not a theatrical release by then. Theoretically they could go into production in late 2011 and we wouldn't see a film until 2013 if schedules dictated.

2. This is monumentally bad news for the Superman franchise if you look below the surface. For one, it motivates the studio to make a movie quickly. Second, it's in their interests to make it cheap. Given that SR wasn't highly profitable for them and the overall economy is in the toilet still, they wont green light a big $150+ million budget Superman and risk losing 10's of millions of dollars just to save themselves from having to pay out a few million in damages to Siegel and Shuster. Knowing WB like we know them, they'll put out something that's barely passable as a Superman film for the sake of avoiding the damages and maintaining the property. I wonder when George Miller's phone will start ringing?

Well they should just do a Smallville movie then. If Clark gonna be Superman finally in season 9 and if its the finally season they can get a movie done by 2012.

Good thing about this is they already have a cast and location set for the films. All they would need is a story which will not take long since they had 9 seasons of stories with half of Superman's rogue gallery exposed already.

Also they would need no orgin since Clark already had his in the show and Smallville is popular and oen of the best television shows on tv today. So if they do the movie right be awesome. I say have a reference to Darkseid for season 9 then have him be the main villian in the Smallville movie. We would finally get a Superman fighting someone with the power he has.

[Prison Mike]

they could do that Superman movie proposed by mark millar...

[Syncos]

Ausiello said the :super: would be on his chest, I'm not sure that necessarily means he'll be wearing the suit.

Yes, I probably should cancel the google and yahoo alerts I have, way too many spoilers end up in the description of the news items.

:(

Heh, I saw this in a quote, and I was like "Maaaan, Trip is going to be maaaad." then I was like "wait a sec.... she just posted that."

[Lighthouse]

2 things:

1. The judge said they have to be in production by 2011 not a theatrical release by then. Theoretically they could go into production in late 2011 and we wouldn't see a film until 2013 if schedules dictated.

2. This is monumentally bad news for the Superman franchise if you look below the surface. For one, it motivates the studio to make a movie quickly. Second, it's in their interests to make it cheap. Given that SR wasn't highly profitable for them and the overall economy is in the toilet still, they wont green light a big $150+ million budget Superman and risk losing 10's of millions of dollars just to save themselves from having to pay out a few million in damages to Siegel and Shuster. Knowing WB like we know them, they'll put out something that's barely passable as a Superman film for the sake of avoiding the damages and maintaining the property. I wonder when George Miller's phone will start ringing?

Glad to see I'm not the only one with this view. Everyone else seems to be celebrating the deadline, but nothing ever good comes from these things. I don't know if they can, but I figured they might try to release an animated Superman movie into theaters, much like Mask of the Phantasm. It could still be a quality production, it leaves room to develop the live action version, and it fulfills the agreement(I think).

[Zorex]

I think a large-scale animated film would/could be great, but that's just me. If it had any of the heart and class of Mask of the Phantasm, I'd be happy. Load it up with some big name voices, and pray to God it steers far away from anything resembling Superman: Doomsday.

Also, get a real orchestral score (much like MOTP's wonderful Shirley Walker score).

[Webhead2006]

Well i been offline last day and a half but read about the whole court case earlier today. As for what this means i am a bit confused with all the details about what it all means for wb, dc comics, and both familes.

As much as i would love to see a big screen superman film based off the series its very doubtful it would happen. As for the rumored tv movie i still could see that happening. But since its stated wb has to do a film and have it in production by 2011 to not be sued by the siegels with the copyright i fear what wb would do.

We know singer likely has been gone for awhile since we know routh gone from being on contract. know just as much some fans hate smallville a good majority of fans hated SR. I would hate to really see them suck back to singer just to be able to have production halfway set to get moving faster.

But if the families are to own the rights come 2013 and if wb/dc cant make a new deal to keep the character at their companies what would be the point to even trying to do another movie if they would not be able to do another afterwards?

Then what it would be to start from the bottom up again. We know they have had problems for last decade and a half to get superman on screen again. But i rather see new people come on board and do a better film that us fans and the general fans can all see and enjoy and fix the spilt in the fans SR caused.

[Fresh Prince]

they could do that Superman movie proposed by mark millar...

And what was that?

[Fresh Prince]

Glad to see I'm not the only one with this view. Everyone else seems to be celebrating the deadline, but nothing ever good comes from these things. I don't know if they can, but I figured they might try to release an animated Superman movie into theaters, much like Mask of the Phantasm. It could still be a quality production, it leaves room to develop the live action version, and it fulfills the agreement(I think).

Mask of the Phantasm was released in movies? Thought that was a straight to DVD thing.

[Fresh Prince]

Well i been offline last day and a half but read about the whole court case earlier today. As for what this means i am a bit confused with all the details about what it all means for wb, dc comics, and both familes.

As much as i would love to see a big screen superman film based off the series its very doubtful it would happen. As for the rumored tv movie i still could see that happening. But since its stated wb has to do a film and have it in production by 2011 to not be sued by the siegels with the copyright i fear what wb would do.

We know singer likely has been gone for awhile since we know routh gone from being on contract. know just as much some fans hate smallville a good majority of fans hated SR. I would hate to really see them suck back to singer just to be able to have production halfway set to get moving faster.

But if the families are to own the rights come 2013 and if wb/dc cant make a new deal to keep the character at their companies what would be the point to even trying to do another movie if they would not be able to do another afterwards?

Then what it would be to start from the bottom up again. We know they have had problems for last decade and a half to get superman on screen again. But i rather see new people come on board and do a better film that us fans and the general fans can all see and enjoy and fix the spilt in the fans SR caused.

What split in the fans did SR cause?

Anyways a Smallville movie to thearters be best. I mean they have everything down pat. Plus majority of people love Smallvile. Also all that need to happen is Clark be Superman. And he can be that in season 9 then for the movie already be him.

Also A Smallville movie might be good you never know. The cast can act.

[Webhead2006]

The spilt is we got majority of fans who didnt like what bryan singer did, brandon routh's take on superman. The other is fans who did like what singer did. Its widely known that Sr spilt the superman fans up.

[Lighthouse]

Mask of the Phantasm was released in movies? Thought that was a straight to DVD thing.

It was originally supposed to be straight to video, but it was later decided that the film should have a theatrical release.

[Fresh Prince]

It was originally supposed to be straight to video, but it was later decided that the film should have a theatrical release.

Okay.

[Fresh Prince]

What was Mark Miller proposed Superman film?

[Fresh Prince]

Just do the smallville film.

[Prison Mike]

What was Mark Miller proposed Superman film?

he said it is supposed to be this epic trilogy that chronicles the life of Superman. It starts on krytpon and ends with Superman being the last one on earth. He said he had an American director in mind who was willing to shoot it with him. I always thought he was referring to Michael Bay...