Tom Welling as Superman

[Ultimate_Superman]

Right so Welling and the producers just don't know what they are talking about when they say he is not playing Superman. Lets face it right now there are 4 official Supermen out there.

1. Routh
2. Legion of Super-Heroes Superman
3. Timm Superman
4. Comics

after that there is no one else right now. Welling may be Superman to you but he is not officially Superman yet we now he may one day wear the tights but things might change.

[Kaboom]

What the hell are you talking about a Journey. Superman is no where near a journey once he leaves Smallville Smallville is more of the journey.

wait so are you trying to say that the second clark kent (any version) put on the suit, he was a fully-actualized kryptonian...and from that day forward he never learned a single lesson about life or humanity or his own culture or any culture again?

[Serene]

Right so Welling and the producers just don't know what they are talking about when they say he is not playing Superman.

They're just catering to the honchos in the movie division. Don't want to get their panties all in a bunch.

Really.. once the interviewers finish, they all laugh about it. Really. They all know who Supes really is. Just read Pat's sig. :hyper:

[Ultimate_Superman]

wait so are you trying to say that the second clark kent (any version) put on the suit, he was a fully-actualized kryptonian...and from that day forward he never learned a single lesson about life or humanity or his own culture or any culture again?I am not saying thatbut trying to say Superman is a journey to justfiy Welling as Superman is wrong.

[Kaboom]

did i say welling? or did i say superman?

[Ultimate_Superman]

did i say welling? or did i say superman?but I know what you are getting at ;)

[Kaboom]

They're just catering to the honchos in the movie division. Don't want to get their panties all in a bunch.

Really.. once the interviewers finish, they all laugh about it. Really. They all know who Supes really is. Just read Pat's sig. :hyper:

don't you mean.....................









wait for it......











wait for it....................









manties? :super:



BWAHAHAHAHA

[Ultimate_Superman]

They're just catering to the honchos in the movie division. Don't want to get their panties all in a bunch.

Really.. once the interviewers finish, they all laugh about it. Really. They all know who Supes really is. Just read Pat's sig. :hyper:Right when Pat's sig comes from a guy who worked on SV as well as killed Supergirl in the comics IMO.:rolleyes: Now look at what Reeve said "Welling does not play him but plays East role." As in saying Welling doesn't play Superman but young Clark Kent or Clark on the farm as some like to put it. So Reeve didn't know what he was talking about as well right and see it he died before the movie who is he playing to?

[Kaboom]

but I know what you are getting at ;)

honestly, with all the debate about whether clark kent or superman or kal-el is the real identity, when he puts on the suit, traveling the world, hibernating in the FOS, training with jor-el, the superBOY legal battles, .....

apart from all that....those are all just facets of the same character...one man. and just like i am not the same person i was when i was ten and am not now the same person that i'll be when i turn 40...or 50...that doesn't mean today yesterday and tomorrow i won't be

The Absoultely Terrific Great Kaboom, Warrior of the Kaboom Cycle and Protector of All that is Right and Good.

(wow, i've used the full name twice in the past month, that NEVER happens)

[Ultimate_Superman]

honestly, with all the debate about whether clark kent or superman or kal-el is the real identity, when he puts on the suit, traveling the world, hibernating in the FOS, training with jor-el, the superBOY legal battles, .....

apart from all that....those are all just facets of the same character...one man. and just like i am not the same person i was when i was ten and am not now the same person that i'll be when i turn 40...or 50...that doesn't mean today yesterday and tomorrow i won't be

The Absoultely Terrific Great Kaboom, Warrior of the Kaboom Cycle and Protector of All that is Right and Good.

(wow, i've used the full name twice in the past month, that NEVER happens)But he is not that person yet. He is still learning about himself and trying to figure out who he is. As Superman he knows who he is.

[Kaboom]

But he is not that person yet. He is still learning about himself and trying to figure out who he is. As Superman he knows who he is.

Mulberry Bush alert!

[blksuperman2]

Right when Pat's sig comes from a guy who worked on SV as well as killed Supergirl in the comics IMO.:rolleyes: Now look at what Reeve said "Welling does not play him but plays East role." As in saying Welling doesn't play Superman but young Clark Kent or Clark on the farm as some like to put it. So Reeve didn't know what he was talking about as well right and see it he died before the movie who is he playing to?

Reeve said that while Welling was playing Clark as a Junior in Highschool. He's really not the same character anymore IMO.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Reeve said that while Welling was playing Clark as a Junior in Highschool. He's really not the same character anymore IMO.Yes he is. Reeve was stating in a nice way he is not playing Superman but the person before Superman. Which Welling is still playing and still saying thats what his Clark is not Superman as he has stated time and time again.

[blksuperman2]

Yes he is. Reeve was stating in a nice way he is not playing Superman but the person before Superman. Which Welling is still playing and still saying thats what his Clark is not Superman as he has stated time and time again.

Well if you say so. I recall Welling saying something about having the Superman universe all to himself prior to Superman Returns being released. I'm paraphrasing of course, I'm sure someone here knows the exact quote.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well if you say so. I recall Welling saying something about having the Superman universe all to himself prior to Superman Returns being released. I'm paraphrasing of course, I'm sure someone here knows the exact quote.He sure did have it all to himself prior to the movie because then you could have had another Superboy type of thing going on but now with the other guy as the MOS Welling's chances are slim to none for us to see in a Superman movie or show as Superman(meaning like a full show or movie.)

[The Incredible Hulk]

http://www.danaroc.com/blog/wp-content/themes/danaroc/uploads/broken_record.jpg

[AgentPat]

Right when Pat's sig comes from a guy who worked on SV as well as killed Supergirl in the comics IMO...Wait! You're bashing the opinion of Jeph Loeb - the writer of SFAS and Superman/Batman, among a bunch of other amazing accomplishments in comicdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeph_Loeb) - because he worked on SV, and you don't like what he did with Supergirl?

LMFAO! :rolleyes:

Find another Strawman argument, All-Star. That one's beyond laughable.

[04nbod]

i like the new supergirl - but i'm in the minority on these boards- hippy hunter seems to think that its because i'm british:(

if anyone does happen to like the new comic supergirl heres my thread
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254032

i need some supporters over there:(

[The Kid]

http://www.danaroc.com/blog/wp-content/themes/danaroc/uploads/broken_record.jpg

Yeah. This is getting goddam ridiculous. :huh:

If you think Superdaddy is the bee's knees, fine.

If you think Smallville razzes your berries, fine.

Now let's all hug and make out right here.:heart: :heart: :heart:

[AgentPat]

If you think Superdaddy is the bee's knees, fine.

If you think Smallville razzes your berries, fine.

Now let's all hug and make out right here.:heart: :heart: :heart:
http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/snog.gif

:D

[Lighthouse]

After just getting done watching the Donner Cut of SII, I gotta admit, there were some scenes of Reeve in the fortress where Reeve looked stunningly like Welling.

Also, I like that Smallville is taking the Jor-El/Clark relationship in a new direction, but the Brando scenes in RD's Cut were so incredible that it kinda makes me miss that relationship in Smallville. Still, RD's Cut reminded me once again of, despite my nitpicks, what Smallville gets so right about Superman.

[RakuMon]

After just getting done watching the Donner Cut of SII, I gotta admit, there were some scenes of Reeve in the fortress where Reeve looked stunningly like Welling.

Also, I like that Smallville is taking the Jor-El/Clark relationship in a new direction, but the Brando scenes in RD's Cut were so incredible that it kinda makes me miss that relationship in Smallville. Still, RD's Cut reminded me once again of, despite my nitpicks, what Smallville gets so right about Superman.
Really? How did the Donner cut remind you of that? Curious, because I've yet to watch my discs. I ordered the Ultimate set from Amazon but it hasn't arrived yet.

[Ultimate_Superman]

The Donner cut is very good. It is like watching a whole other movie to be honest. I mean if you watch that (Donner's Superman II) then SR makes much more sense because you see where they are going off of more and it falls right in line with the theme or Donner's movie (The Father becomes the son thing).

[AgentPat]

Really? How did the Donner cut remind you of that? Curious, because I've yet to watch my discs. I ordered the Ultimate set from Amazon but it hasn't arrived yet.I'm curious about that too.

BTW... does anybody know if the Donner cut (Superman 2) is available for purchase by itself? I'm really not interested in the other stuff in the latest box set. I already have all of the Reeve flicks on DVD, so I don't feel like buying 'em again. But I do want to see the "new" version of SII.

[Ultimate_Superman]

The Donner Cut can be brought by itself. But it does cost more then the other DVD's it is like $25.00

[Serene]

BTW... does anybody know if the Donner cut (Superman 2) is available for purchase by itself? I'm really not interested in the other stuff in the latest box set.
But Pat.. I've heard there's some really interesting "extra" stuff to see. ;)

[triplet]

But Pat.. I've heard there's some really interesting "extra" stuff to see. ;)

*snort*

:D

However, I'm with Pat. I've got the first two films on DVD already and would like to get just the director's cut of SII.... Not interested in getting that box set really.

It's actually attractively priced over on amazon, Pat:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IJ79WU/ref=reg_hu-wl_item-added/102-9010164-0463358

[Ultimate_Superman]

The only thing different with Donner's SII is it is a little more darker then Superman: The Movie and set up the movie that is suppose to be a sequel of it.

[AgentPat]

The Donner Cut can be brought by itself. But it does cost more then the other DVD's it is like $25.00Thanks! I'll hit Towers today and pick one up. I've been looking forward to that. :up:

But Pat.. I've heard there's some really interesting "extra" stuff to see. ;)Eh. I know. I'm not interested in it though. I've seen all the films, most of the documentary stuff - not that there's much SV on it anyway - which quite frankly, is really all I'm interested in seeing these days anyway, and I don't care about the BTS stuff on the latest film. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/shrug.gif

EDIT: Oh wait... you were being facetious? LOL!! :D

[The Kid]

I'm curious about that too.

BTW... does anybody know if the Donner cut (Superman 2) is available for purchase by itself? I'm really not interested in the other stuff in the latest box set. I already have all of the Reeve flicks on DVD, so I don't feel like buying 'em again. But I do want to see the "new" version of SII.

I do to. So I'm going to go buy it today.

btw this just pisses me off: http://buyersguide.ign.com/2006/movies/3.html

Smallville, yeah reeve literally influenced the show by guest appearing and so did Marggot kidder, but it also borrows from prettymuch all aspects of superman's very long history... :huh: sigh, I just don't get it sometimes... and it frustrates me... since when are the donner movies the end all, be all, of superman... They're good for their time but superman exists beyond them, people.

/rant_off

And yiiiiiiiikes, 299$ for the last five seasons... Who do they expect to purchase that...

[Ultimate_Superman]

I do to. So I'm going to go buy it today.

btw this just pisses me off: http://buyersguide.ign.com/2006/movies/3.html

Smallville doesn't mirror the old movies really, it borrows from prettymuch all aspects of superman's very long history... :huh: sigh, I just don't get it... since when are the donner movies the end all, be all, of superman... They're good for their time but superman exists beyond them, people.

/rant_off

And yiiiiiiiikes, 299$ for the last five seasons... Who do they expect to purchase that...Its funny they are saying that SV is based off of S:TM, SII and SR I can see why your upset. But in all fairness SV brought it upon them self with using some of the footage from all 3 of those movies.

[The Kid]

What the ****? What exactly are you trying to do by insinuating that I'm or the article is even vaguely saying it's at all based on the new superman movie thing that just kinda puttered through the box office this year?

I'm not in the mood for stupid games today.

"Mirroring the first two Christopher Reeve films" So just stop with the sly insinuation.

If you're going to troll, just do it to someone else, ok. Please.

[Ultimate_Superman]

What the ****? What exactly are you trying to do by insinuating that I'm even vaguely saying it's at all based on the new superman movie that just kinda puttered through the box office this year?

I'm not in the mood for games today.I am not saying that at all but the review on that link is saying they are based off of the movies and you said they are not but they are viewed that way when SV does use footage from the Donner movies. So you can see why they wrote that.

[The Kid]

I said stop.

[blksuperman2]

Maybe I missed something. When in the past 5 yrs has SV used footage from any of the Donner movies?

[Ultimate_Superman]

Maybe I missed something. When in the past 5 yrs has SV used footage from any of the Donner movies?They used the footage of the death of Krypton when Clark was in the FOS in S5 first episode while Clark was training with Jor-El. As well as many would call the Donner theme a couple of times.

[AgentPat]

Three hundred dollars for the first five seasons? Huh? That's 60 bucks per set. You can buy some sets for 20 clams now. :confused:

In the words of Henry Lee, something not right. LOL It must not be in US Dollars or something.

As to what the show is "based" on, well it's based on seven decades of Superman mythology, of course. Did they go overboard with certain homages? Well, maybe, but it's debatable. I think they created a lot more new stuff than they borrowed old stuff, and they definitely elaborated on certain aspects that were *never* addressed before, so it's all good. :)

Maybe I missed something. When in the past 5 yrs has SV used footage from any of the Donner movies?Actual footage? Well, off the top of my head, the FOS scene in Arrival is one (Clark sees a few glimpses of the destruction of Krypton. Was great stuff, and lifted DIRECTLY out of S:TM.)

[AgentPat]

Remember this scene, BkSupes?

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival8.jpg

Look in the background here:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival7.jpg

:D :up:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Three hundred dollars for the first five seasons? Huh? That's 60 bucks per set. You can buy some sets for 20 clams now. :confused:

In the words of Henry Lee, something not right. LOL It must not be in US Dollars or something.

As to what the show is "based" on, well it's based on seven decades of Superman mythology, of course. Did they go overboard with certain homages? Well, maybe, but it's debatable. I think they created a lot more new stuff than they borrowed old stuff, and they definitely elaborated on certain aspects that were *never* addressed before, so it's all good. :)
I can agree with that part because until SV Clarks growing up was like wondering who trained Batman and what did he do before he became Batman.

[AssMan]

You know speaking of The Donner Cut I am wondering why the U.S. did not get a set small set like this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/B000I8OC6M/ref=s9_asin_image_1/203-5278873-0592746

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2937/b000i8oc6m01ss500sclzzzfq9.jpg

[The Kid]

Yes, I recognize it does act as a "hodgepodge" of superman mythology and that's what gets to me is sometimes that goes unappreciated; rather than merely immitating past superman media, it tries to find a balance between old and new. I really respect that about smallville.

[blksuperman2]

Remember this scene, BkSupes?

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival8.jpg

Look in the background here:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/arrival7.jpg

:D :up:

You guys have a good eye. I may or may not have noticed that at the time it air'd. I don't remember. Thanks for reminding me. I'll go away and shut up now.:O

[phil]

That sucks I tried to find the Donner cut last night and it was only in the big box set with SR. I refuse to buy anything to do with that movie, I checked Walmart and Target as well as all the local movie stores, anyone know where I can get it today without ordering through the mail? I live in southern NH (USA)

[Ultimate_Superman]

Best Buy and Target have it as a stand alone.

[AgentPat]

Yes, I recognize it does act as a "hodgepodge" of superman mythology and that's what gets to me is sometimes that goes unappreciated; rather than merely imitating past superman media, it tries to find a balance between old and new. I really respect that about smallville.I think that reviewers use the Reeve films as a comparison since that's what most people are familiar with, including themselves. Most people have no idea what the difference is between Golden and Silver Age, they never heard of Byrne, and they're eyes would gloss over if you even tried to explain what the "Crisis" was. LOL So I guess, critics (like directors) make it easy for everybody by using the KISS method: Keep it simple stupid. ;)

[AgentPat]

That sucks I tried to find the Donner cut last night and it was only in the big box set with SR. I refuse to buy anything to do with that movie, I checked Walmart and Target as well as all the local movie stores, anyone know where I can get it today without ordering through the mail? I live in southern NH (USA)Phil, I'm gonna check Towers today or tomorrow. If they don't have it (they're going out of business, so I wouldn't be surprised), Newbury Comics might. :D

[phil]

Thanks Pat but what is Towers?
Target only had the stand alone for the original film.
Just a quick question how do they figure out what SR did in DVD sales selling it all together like this?

[The Kid]

I think that reviewers use the Reeve films as a comparison since that's what most people are familiar with, including themselves. Most people have no idea what the difference is between Golden and Silver Age, they never heard of Byrne, and they're eyes would gloss over if you even tried to explain what the "Crisis" was. LOL So I guess, critics (like directors) make it easy for everybody by using the KISS method: Keep it simple stupid. ;)

hmmm yeah, that could be it...in the end I'm just glad that a show like this can exist and portray superman in ways that go beyond what was done decades ago...

[Ultimate_Superman]

They combine the Ultimate Collection sells with the sales of the single DVD of the movie and thats how you find out how well SR did.

[phil]

Figures, they need everything they can get for this one to beef up the sales. But I don't think it's right because some people are buying it for the other stuff. And beside it costs a lot more so they will ad that price in? too funny.
Oops sorry guys I just realized I shouldn't really be discussing those issues here.

[AssMan]

They combine the Ultimate Collection sells with the sales of the single DVD of the movie and thats how you find out how well SR did.

In my opinion SR should have never gone in that set period. It should have been strictly The Christopher Reeve collection. Now whats to stop WB as the sequels come out to do more Christopher Reeve Box Sets with SR & its sequels every few years. I do agree that adding SR to the Christopher Reeve box set was done as a cheap way so SR can sell

[Ultimate_Superman]

^^ I agree completely I also hate the fact that only a few stores are allowed to sell the Donner Superman II as a stand alone and the ones that are allowed to sell it as a stand alone will over charge you for it.

[phil]

It's funny and amazing that they don't realize they are on very thin ice with the superman franchise and they pull things like this. I think they have no respect for the fans at all.

[AgentPat]

Thanks Pat but what is Towers?Tower Records. You don't have a Towers in NH? Really? I thought they were all over NE. Hmm. Learn sumthin' new every day.

Just a quick question how do they figure out what SR did in DVD sales selling it all together like this?Actual *profits* from sales aren't publicly reported. They'll only tell us how many units were sold. Gross profits are extrapolated by the media while net profits are for shareholder's eyes and Warner Bros.' tax accountants. Home video rentals are reported, however. :)

[avidreader]

Yes, I recognize it does act as a "hodgepodge" of superman mythology and that's what gets to me is sometimes that goes unappreciated; rather than merely immitating past superman media, it tries to find a balance between old and new. I really respect that about smallville.

How come I'm only discovering now, just how much I like you? :yay:

[Serene]

Tower Records. You don't have a Towers in NH? Really? I thought they were all over NE. Hmm. Learn sumthin' new every day.

All the Tower Records stores that I know of in the Chicago area have been shut down in the past year.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Go to Best Buy they have that version as a single disc if your really looking for it. As I said before though it is 24.99 when you get it. The reason why it is so hard to buy that movie as a stand alone in stores though is because it was meant as a bonus to either one of the box sets. But Best Buy does have it.

[phil]

Just got it at Walmart for $19.99

[Ultimate_Superman]

I might get it for parents they wanted to see it all I have is the Ultimate box set.

[AgentPat]

More pictures, dammit!! :mad:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel6b.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/superman.gif

[LL2K2]

What the hell are you talking about a Journey. Superman is no where near a journey once he leaves Smallville Smallville is more of the journey.

"You won't find the answers by looking at the stars. It's a journey you'll have to take by looking inside yourself. You must write your own destiny...Kal-El." - Dr. Swann, "Rosetta"

Isn't that what Smallville's all about? It's Clark's JOURNEY towards the man he will become. That's why I watch - we know how it's going to end, and we get to see him progress into this other person.

But right now, that journey has a few potholes and bumps.

[Kaboom]

hey check out my sig LL!

[Lighthouse]

Really? How did the Donner cut remind you of that? Curious, because I've yet to watch my discs. I ordered the Ultimate set from Amazon but it hasn't arrived yet.
Its hard for me to describe, but there are some truly great, beautiful, epic moments in the movie with the FOS, and Smallville, despite my huge gripes with characters and continuity, is able to nail these moments.

[Serene]

More pictures, dammit!! :mad:

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/vessel6b.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/superman.gif

*sigh* Now *that's* a perfect face.

[sunflowercyn]

*sigh* Now *that's* a perfect face.


Brandon who? Tom IS Superman.

[Kal-El 8]

Tom IS Superman.

NOT YET, He ain't

[FanboyX_Returns]

It's funny and amazing that they don't realize they are on very thin ice with the superman franchise and they pull things like this. I think they have no respect for the fans at all.

That's what happens when you give the job to run a big studio like the WB to a bunch of retards!

Those people don't know what they are doing with MOST of their high profile characters, and it's a shame because they own the rights to some of the best characters.

They don't want to listen to the fan's who have been yelling pretty loud online, and at the boxoffice the last 10 years.

They keep this up, and we might never see another Superman movie after the flop in 2009.

The WB top top dogs needs to fire everyone who's running things for them, and hire all new folks who know what they are doing.

[FanboyX_Returns]

I do to. So I'm going to go buy it today.

btw this just pisses me off: http://buyersguide.ign.com/2006/movies/3.html

Smallville, yeah reeve literally influenced the show by guest appearing and so did Marggot kidder, but it also borrows from prettymuch all aspects of superman's very long history... :huh: sigh, I just don't get it sometimes... and it frustrates me... since when are the donner movies the end all, be all, of superman... They're good for their time but superman exists beyond them, people.

/rant_off

And yiiiiiiiikes, 299$ for the last five seasons... Who do they expect to purchase that...

That's what I love about the show! That it takes things from each, and everyone of Superman incarnation in some form... Be it storyline, character's they use, ect.

It's not about just the donner movie's which ARE NOT, and I say it again ARE NOT! The end all of Superman!

While I loved those movies, and all it's sequels even the 4th I will say that they are really outdated, and are really only worth watching because of Chris Reeve, and that's the truth... He was AMAZING in the role!

They will always be great movies due to the fact that he was in them.
His Superman was the best to date by far, and as far as the "human face" to Superman he has simply been the ULTIMATE SUPERMAN since the first movie came out.

But guess what? So was George Reeves before Chris, and they looked NOTHING alike... Not even CLOSE!
Neither did Kirk Alyn, or Dean Cain, or even the Superboy's who played on the same show but in diffrent seasons.

I stick to my guns when I say that every film or tv adaptation of the character should have only 1 human face per generation who plays the role for a few movies, and maybe in tribute to the Reeve movies have every new face to the role do 4 movies...

But please don't have a cheap clone of Chris Reeve or any of the past actor's badly spit out a few lines from Superman the movie!

They should all bring their own style, and look to the role, and Tom Welling has that, and the way he plays the role on a show with some of the worst writting on tv history really reminds me of Chris in the sense that he also had no help from the writers with his version of Superman.

But like Chris, Tom has a new fresh take on the role, and when they get it right on the show (the writers) they really get it right!
But for each Generation their should only be 1, and remember the ever changing face of Bruce Wayne in 4 movies is what ended that franchise... Until Bale/Nolan put life back into the BAT.
Now Bale is this generations Face to the role, and I wouldnt even want to see an elseworld take on the character on tv in ANY form!
Think about this! If im wrong then why did they axe Bruce Wayne from coming out on SMALLVILLE?

Same thing is what happened with the new movie you already have established a new guy in the role for the past 5 years, and people for the most part as most polls will tell you feel like Tom is this generations face to the role, and now try to bring someone like Brandon into the picture, and all it does is confuse your fanbase, and create more of a mess then you would have had they just let Smallville run its course on tv, and done maybe Tv movies or Big screen Superman movies with the Smallville cast.

Or if the WB really just doesn't want to do that then wait a good 5 years after the show is off the air, and start over with an entire new cast which has a guy who looks the part just all the past Superman but looks original at the same time in the role, and is an actor who looks like an adult or atleast older then Tom Welling who's playing the teenage role on tv now.

I mean Brandon couldnt even pull that off! So that's the first thing I would do, and then the 2nd would be I would hire a real good Director, and some real good writers... Then make sure that for the love of god!
Don't make Superman "an idiot" a "stalker" a "bad lover" a "Bad father" a "Wimp" and please make sure he doesn't look EMO!

No EMO Superman! Please! Just say no to EMO MAN!
http://i14.tinypic.com/3z7h0yu.jpg

By the way I also WONT be buying the new BOX SETS because they have SUPERMAN RETURNS in em, and I refuse to help them make a penny on that movie.
I would love it if they took the movie out of the boxset, and threw it out along with all the artwork, and stuff they did for SR in the boxset, and insert an extra dvd with more stuff on the original 4 movies.

I have the original boxset on DVD, and so It's cool I don't need to buy the new set.. I already have The Donner Cut, and will live happy with what I have.

[Pickle-El]

It's okay they don't need your money.....from various people posting on comic related boards, those BOX SETS are hard to find already. LOTS of people are scooping them up.

:)

[The Kid]

People are stealing the new superman dvds?

[Ultimate_Superman]

So you say FanBoy but at my Best Buy the single copies of SR where flying off the shelf and when I went to blockbusters to rent Clerks II SR was all gone so there are alot of people who must have liked it. Then is nothing wrong with liking both.

[phil]

Holy crap was the Donner cut awesome or what?! Lois was so much like the Lois on SV in this. I have a lot of respect for Margot but never really liked her a lot doing Lois. The scene after the fortress is destroyed was reminding me of Welling and Erica so much when they started talking, wow. I don't think Margot ever looked so good than in these scenes.

[The Incredible Hulk]

and SR's DVD sales have what exactly to do with Tom Welling as Superman? :confused:

[Kal-El 8]

and SR's DVD sales have what exactly to do with Tom Welling as Superman? :confused:

Nothing

And for that matter Tom isn't Superman not yet at least .

[AgentPat]

and SR's DVD sales have what exactly to do with Tom Welling as Superman? :confused:Nothing at all.


Yo, PEEPS! If this thread gets closed because of all the WAY obvious SR bashing, there's gonna be HELL to pay! It's bad enough Dew treats users here like an infestation of cockroaches; lets not give her any more reason to pull out the bug spray, K?

Move ON! Please?

Thank you for your cooperation.[/robocop]

[blksuperman2]

"You won't find the answers by looking at the stars. It's a journey you'll have to take by looking inside yourself. You must write your own destiny...Kal-El." - Dr. Swann, "Rosetta"

Isn't that what Smallville's all about? It's Clark's JOURNEY towards the man he will become. That's why I watch - we know how it's going to end, and we get to see him progress into this other person.

But right now, that journey has a few potholes and bumps.

I like you.:heart:

Nothing at all.


Yo, PEEPS! If this thread gets closed because of all the WAY obvious SR bashing, there's gonna be HELL to pay! It's bad enough Dew treats users here like an infestation of cockroaches; lets not give her any more reason to pull out the bug spray, K?

Move ON! Please?

Thank you for your cooperation.[/robocop]

Yes ma'am.

I didn't know Dew was a woman. Why are we cockroaches?:oldrazz:

[Serene]

Why are we cockroaches?:oldrazz:

Because we are able to survive apocolyptic wars. - *nodding at my fellow casting war vets*

OR, we're just pests. :D

(or, both?)

[Kal-El 8]

Nothing at all.


Yo, PEEPS! If this thread gets closed because of all the WAY obvious SR bashing, there's gonna be HELL to pay! It's bad enough Dew treats users here like an infestation of cockroaches; lets not give her any more reason to pull out the bug spray, K?

Move ON! Please?

Thank you for your cooperation.[/robocop]

Is this suppose to be a threat ?

[AgentPat]

Is this suppose to be a threat ?http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk.gif


:p

[The Incredible Hulk]

no, it's a promise...

[Kal-El 8]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bonk.gif


:p

Do you see me laughing here, I don't find this funny . This is not a joke . Is that a threat ?

[Serene]

Do you see me laughing here, I don't find this funny . This is not a joke . Is that a threat ?
What is your problem?

Do you not understand the meanings of commonly used phrases? Pat's trying to keep this thread from getting closed, and you are obsessing over her wording?

[Kal-El 8]

What is your problem?



My problem is that, I'm sick and tried of the double standard BS [It's ok for some like, Pat, Hulk you, Kaboom etc and any other member from the SV thread to go into The SR or Sr Sequel thread and bash it like. But God forbid if anyone does it in Smallville Thread, All Hell breaks lose. ]

PAt goes on as The High Commander of the sv froum as the leader who can bose around and make threats.

[Pat , I mean no disrespect, But this is the way I see it, ]

You avi and all the rest back her up.



I happen to like SR very much, and i'm greatly looking forward to the upcomming sequel in 2009. I also like Sv to a certain degree . But this Double Standard BS . I'm getting sick and tried of it .

[AgentPat]

...It's ok for some like, Pat, Hulk Avi, you, Kaboom etc and any other member from the SV thread to go into The SR or Sr Sequel thread and bash it like.Um... YES! Yes it IS okay. Just like it's OKAY for people to bash SV here! But the rule is no bashing in the opposite forums, j'know?

Holy messed up universe, Batman. Agent freakin' Pat is actually being chastised for sticking up for SR in the SV forum?

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/startrek2.jpg

:D





Pssst... Kal, hon... It was a figure of speech. Do you REALLY want the mods cracking whips and closing threads here? I don't. C'mon dude. :(

[Serene]

My problem is that, I'm sick and tried of the double standard BS [It's ok for some like, Pat, Hulk Avi, you, Kaboom etc and any other member from the SV thread to go into The SR or Sr Sequel thread and bash it like. But God forbid if anyone does it in Smallville Thread, All Hell breaks lose. ]

Are you talking about the SR forums? I avoid those like the plague.


I happen to like SR very much, and i'm greatly looking forward to the upcomming sequel in 2009. I also like Sv to a certain degree . But this Double Standard BS . I'm getting sick and tried of it .

Good for you, but why do we have to hear about it here?
Whatever.. if you're sick of things, there are solutions.

[Spider-Gamer]

Where is the love? :csad:

[Kal-El 8]

Um... YES! Yes it IS okay. Just like it's OKAY for people to bash SV here! But the rule is no bashing in the opposite forums, j'know?

Really, Well so many do it anyways .

Holy messed up universe, Batman. Agent freakin' Pat is actually being chastised for sticking up for SR in the SV forum?

Ha ha, very funny .





Pssst... Kal, hon... It was a figure of speech. Do you REALLY want the mods cracking whips and closing threads here? I don't. C'mon dude. :(

It sounded like a Threat Pat (that's all I'm saying.) No I don't want to see threads closed, But I think we need to get a full time mod in this froum to keep all of you in check .

[Kal-El 8]

Are you talking about the SR forums? I avoid those like the plague.


See your just proving my point .

[Dew k. Mosi]

I don't honestly see how saying "I like SR" or "I don't like SV" is reportable. I don't ban people without reason. This is a topic for debate, not ass kissing. I honestly see nothing wrong with the "reported post" in this thread. Just keep SR's dvd sales in SR's forums and everyone grow a thicker skin.

Just to point out though, this is NOT carte blanche to run wild through either forum and cackle madly about how much you hate whatever. If you can point out why you don't like Welling without bragging about Routh, and vice versa, you are allowed to make your opinions. Otherwise, keep to your respective side of the playgrounds and quit being such brats.

[AgentPat]

Really, Well so many do it anyways.Then PM a mod. Don't piss and moan about it.

It sounded like a Threat Pat (that's all I'm saying.)With all due respect, I think you need to lighten up, Kal. It's a common phrase and said with humor. Would I be pissed out the wazoo if some clown got this thread closed because they were bashing SR? Hell freaking' yeah. But it's not like I'm going to beat them up for it.

Well... maybe verbally. <- Yes, that's humor!

No I don't want to see threads closed, But I think we need to get a full time mod in this forum to keep all of you in check .Umm... unless that's your last post in this forum, YOU are as much one of "us" as anybody else here. Why the finger pointing? We don't need mods to keep us in check. Mods are for children that can't follow simple rules.

And with that, I'm done with this argument...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rules.gif

Follow them. Please? They're easy. Honest.

[avidreader]

My problem is that, I'm sick and tried of the double standard BS [It's ok for some like, Pat, Hulk Avi, you, Kaboom etc and any other member from the SV thread to go into The SR or Sr Sequel thread and bash it like. But God forbid if anyone does it in Smallville Thread, All Hell breaks lose. ]

PAt goes on as The High Commander of the sv froum as the leader who can bose around and make threats.

[Pat , I mean no disrespect, But this is the way I see it, ]

You avi and all the rest back her up.



I happen to like SR very much, and i'm greatly looking forward to the upcomming sequel in 2009. I also like Sv to a certain degree . But this Double Standard BS . I'm getting sick and tried of it .

I resent that. I have never been into the SR threads, so dont accuse me of something that I've never been a part of.

[Kaboom]

My problem is that, I'm sick and tried of the double standard BS [It's ok for some like, Pat, Hulk Avi, you, Kaboom etc and any other member from the SV thread to go into The SR or Sr Sequel thread and bash it like. But God forbid if anyone does it in Smallville Thread, All Hell breaks lose.

Um...I've been to the SR Forum maybe once in my entire history of posting on these boards.

[Kal-El 8]

Then PM a mod. Don't piss and moan about it.

I have, believe I have

With all due respect, I think you need to lighten up, Kal. It's a common phrase and said with humor. Would I be pissed out the wazoo if some clown got this thread closed because they were bashing SR? Hell freaking' yeah. But it's not like I'm going to beat them up for it.

Well... maybe verbally. <- Yes, that's humor!

Well maybe you should [put J/k or lol or some kind of smiley sgin] to indecate your Joking . Not everyone understands your kind of humor .

Umm... unless that's your last post in this forum, YOU are as much one of "us" as anybody else here. Why the finger pointing? We don't need mods to keep us in check. Mods are for children that can't follow simple rules.

I'm hardly here that much anymore (I'm either in the spidey, Bats or Sups forum) So no I'm not really 100% apart of this froum anymore . And yes you really do need a mod in here .

And with that, I'm done with this argument...

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/rules.gif

Follow them. Please? They're easy. Honest.

Right back at ya .

[Kal-El 8]

I resent that. I have never been into the SR threads, so dont accuse me of something that I've never been a part of.

I was using you as an example . I know you've never been their .

[Kal-El 8]

Um...I've been to the SR Forum maybe once in my entire history of posting on these boards.

huh, Correct me If I'm wrong but I've could've sworn you been their more than once .

[avidreader]

I was using you as an example . I know you've never been their .

Well that's not fair. How would you like it if I accused you of something that you werent a part of, just because I needed some examples?

Can I suggest that you edit your original post?

[Kaboom]

huh, Correct me If I'm wrong but I've could've sworn you been their more than once .

I know i went there once about two months ago.....other than that i really don't think i have. Maybe before the movie came out to comment on the suit or the brown hair, but if i did then maybe I've been there twice. BUt thats about it.

[Brainiac 8]

Kal, what's with the vehemence? I didn't see anyone outright threaten or anything of the such at you.

What is it about the people here that you have a problem against?:huh:

[Ultimate_Superman]

I don't honestly see how saying "I like SR" or "I don't like SV" is reportable. I don't ban people without reason. This is a topic for debate, not ass kissing. I honestly see nothing wrong with the "reported post" in this thread. Just keep SR's dvd sales in SR's forums and everyone grow a thicker skin.

Just to point out though, this is NOT carte blanche to run wild through either forum and cackle madly about how much you hate whatever. If you can point out why you don't like Welling without bragging about Routh, and vice versa, you are allowed to make your opinions. Otherwise, keep to your respective side of the playgrounds and quit being such brats.See now you guys brought Dew in here and her amy of :dew::dew::dew::dew: here

[Kal-El 8]

Well that's not fair. How would you like it if I accused you of something that you werent a part of, just because I needed some examples?

Can I suggest that you edit your original post?

I see your point, I'm sorry .

Sure. :yay:

[Kal-El 8]

Kal, what's with the vehemence? I didn't see anyone outright threaten or anything of the such at you.

What is it about the people here that you have a problem against?:huh:


It's just that the comment Pat made (While it may not have been outright directed at me, It still Included me in away, because I was involed in SR disscusion]

Nothing really . It's just that their Should be a fair equal treatment from both sides [from the sv members] & (the SR members)

[Dew k. Mosi]

Ok, this is it. Discuss the topic of this thread or I am closing it.

[Ultimate_Superman]

You guys do understand that all this fighting between fans is the reason why I say we may never see him put on the suit or see his face if the do a shirt rip.

[Brainiac 8]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown2.jpg

Here's a cool one I found.:woot:

[Kaboom]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade12.jpg

.

HMMMM...could we see more of this in Crimsom?

[Kaboom]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown2.jpg

Here's a cool one I found.:woot:

and they say we derail threads :hyper:

[Brainiac 8]

and they say we derail threads :hyper:


That's what I'm saying. You and I, we're saving this thread.:cwink:

[blksuperman2]

Whoa this thread got heated. It's good to see that 'boom and B8 have stopped trying to take over the world and have now put their efforts to saving threads.

[The Incredible Hulk]

You guys do understand that all this fighting between fans is the reason why I say we may never see him put on the suit or see his face if the do a shirt rip.

yes and we usually ignore you since it makes no sense that an argument between 20 people on the internet would have any bearing on what the show does or doesn't do.
If internet arguments dictated those things, no one would EVER get cast in ANY superhero role outside of Christian Bale.

[Brainiac 8]

Whoa this thread got heated. It's good to see that 'boom and B8 have stopped trying to take over the world and have now put their efforts to saving threads.


Don't get used to it Blk.:cwink:

[Ultimate_Superman]

yes and we usually ignore you since it makes no sense that an argument between 20 people on the internet would have any bearing on what the show does or doesn't do.
If internet arguments dictated those things, no one would EVER get cast in ANY superhero role outside of Christian Bale.Keep thinking that but it just may have an impact on things.

[The Incredible Hulk]

you give yourself and these forums FAR too much credit.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Right Hulk, just like it wasn't the fans who put a stop to the GL project with Mr. Black or it wasn't the fans who allowed Donner to see his dreams come true. The fans voice goes a long way.

[The Incredible Hulk]

OK so now we've jumped from the back and forth volleys on this forum to people ALL OVER the internet who campaigned for YEARS to get to see Donner's version of Superman II? And that's somehow the same thing? :confused:

Maybe when a few thousand people start campaigning WB for Welling to not wear the supersuit, you'd have a point. But theyre not, so you dont.

[Brainiac 8]

http://www.tanmonkey.com/images/monkey/Funny-MonkeyReaction%20small.jpg

Stop fighting, you're scaring bubbles.:csad:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Tell that to Hulk he is the one who always picks a fight.

[AssMan]

I guess the next time Dew comes around this thread is bye bye

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yeah but Dew deep down is a big softy and means well its just you gotta pick your days with her. Now Mailce on the other had if he comes here then alot of things will be closed.

[Brainiac 8]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/joeycortes611/superman5.jpg

I like this one.:csad:

[AssMan]

Yeah but Dew deep down is a big softy and means well its just you gotta pick your days with her. Now Mailce on the other had if he comes here then alot of things will be closed.

Is she one for third chances ? Both of her warnings were ignored lol

[Ultimate_Superman]

That picture is great but I have one question if people just use this to post the pictures in what is the purpose of the Tom Welling as Superman Manip thread? I mean doesn't this really defeat the purpose of the other thread?

[Kaboom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/joeycortes611/superman5.jpg

I like this one.:csad:

whoa where did this come from?

[Kaboom]

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/7298/yngnp27ln.jpg

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/5120/s4tw00128sl.jpg

oldies but goodies. Gosh I can't wait till he TAKES OFF!

[Brainiac 8]

google:woot:

The internet wondertool.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Will he have to cut his hair for the last show or will he just slick it like Cain.

[Kaboom]

google:woot:

The internet wondertool.

respond to my pm B8, ole buddy, ole pal

[RakuMon]

saw this one over at the planet in ruth's shirt rip thread:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/bruceeldridge/WellingSuperman11.jpg

[Kaboom]

Will he have to cut his hair for the last show or will he just slick it like Cain.

my vote is slick...with a curl =)

[Kaboom]

saw this one over at the planet in ruth's shirt rip thread:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/bruceeldridge/WellingSuperman11.jpg

wow that one is way off....different skin tones, obvious fake \s/....

[avidreader]

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/manip-unknown2.jpg

Here's a cool one I found.:woot:

I really like that one!

Although, that's the first time I've noticed how black that cloud is in the foreground. Is that itentional?

[avidreader]

oops!

[avidreader]

Patience is a virtue. :D

[Brainiac 8]

Avid....you must have really liked that picture!:wow: :woot: :cwink:

[Kaboom]

Patience is a virtue. :D

Triple Poster!

[Serene]

See your just proving my point .

Here's my point.

*plonk* for the LAST TIME. Good riddance. I overlooked that last bit of b.s. you pulled with reposting my Clark pic and then NEVER EVEN OWNING UP TO IT.. but this is just that one final little straw with you.

2 final words of advice: 1) YOU'RE = a contraction for YOU ARE. YOUR = pertaining to ownership. and, 2) GTFU.

:rolleyes:

[blksuperman2]

Don't get used to it Blk.:cwink:

LOL


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/joeycortes611/superman5.jpg

I like this one.:csad:

Indeed

[avidreader]

The body work in that manip is great, but the face is a little, well its not quite right.

[blksuperman2]

Here's my point.

*plonk* for the LAST TIME. Good riddance. I overlooked that last bit of b.s. you pulled with reposting my Clark pic and then NEVER EVEN OWNING UP TO IT.. but this is just that one final little straw with you.

2 final words of advice: 1) YOU'RE = a contraction for YOU ARE. YOUR = pertaining to ownership. and, 2) GTFU.

:rolleyes:

HAHAHAHA. Where's an "owned" .gif when you need it?

[The Kid]

Did I miss something while I was away? :huh:

[Asteroid-Man]

OFCOURSE! I ate dinner...

[Serene]

Someone on BT asked me to make a little change to this, so I did.
Geek points to whoever notices the change first...Although, it's pretty obvious. ;)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3465/kentdpod9.jpg

[triplet]

Someone on BT asked me to make a little change to this, so I did.
Geek points to whoever notices the change first...Although, it's pretty obvious. ;)

You added "Daily Planet" to the newspaper?

[04nbod]

was he not wearing glasses in that pic? he does look very clark kent- daily planet reporter

[kevinpenni]

he woulda been good :up:

[blksuperman2]

Someone on BT asked me to make a little change to this, so I did.
Geek points to whoever notices the change first...Although, it's pretty obvious. ;)


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3465/kentdpod9.jpg

I think the frames are different. It would help if you reposted the original for comparison.:cwink:

[Serene]

I think the frames are different. It would help if you reposted the original for comparison.:cwink:

:p You're too late anyway. Trip already got it.

[Mary]

Someone on BT asked me to make a little change to this, so I did.
Geek points to whoever notices the change first...Although, it's pretty obvious. ;)


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3465/kentdpod9.jpg
Hot!!!!:woot:

[musclesforsupes]

Shout Out? :(

[blksuperman2]

:p You're too late anyway. Trip already got it.

Booooooo. Triplet must've cheated somehow. That's it.:oldrazz:

[AgentPat]

Shout Out? :(Holy shi... Muscles is back!

QUICK! Hide the food!

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/fridge.jpg

:D

[Serene]

Shout Out? :(

LOL!

Can always count on muscles for a good laugh.
Now we need trip to come in here and shout, "NO!" :D

[Billy Batson]

Check out this :supes: Montage,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1XPPA1fbc&mode=related&search=

I know, I know that the other :super: person follows the Montage but not including him in the montage was cool!!! :woot: .

The Montage pretty much show the BEST incarnation OF SUPERMAN to date. :up:

[The Incredible Hulk]

well the first 1:53 was cool ;)

[Billy Batson]

well the first 1:53 was cool ;)

:cwink: :up:

[triplet]

Shout Out? :(

In your dreams...

:rolleyes:

LOL!



Can always count on muscles for a good laugh.

Now we need trip to come in here and shout, "NO!"

Did the "In your dreams..." and the :rolleyes: work for you?

;) :D

[04nbod]

Check out this :supes: Montage,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1XPPA1fbc&mode=related&search=

I know, I know that the other :super: person follows the Montage but not including him in the montage was cool!!! :woot: .

The Montage pretty much show the BEST incarnation OF SUPERMAN to date. :up:

yeah its on the beginning of the supergirl DVD in britain without the superman returns trailer- i thought it was wonderful

[Ultimate_Superman]

To bad the SV part of the Doc is very short I really wanted to hear more about it.

[04nbod]

hows the george reeves part- i get my DVDs tomorrow

[Ultimate_Superman]

The Reeves part is great I mean it does really go into depth about him and his struggle of being Superman and how his death effected the comic as well. The main bulk of it though is dealing with Chris Reeve though.

[jas01724]

In your dreams...

:rolleyes:
If he wants to visit me I'd be more than willing to "Shout Out" to the friendly neighbourhood police. ;)

[triplet]

If he wants to visit me I'd be more than willing to "Shout Out" to the friendly neighbourhood police. ;)

LOL!

Well, muscles is harmless but if he showed up on my doorstep, I'd probably be calling the local constabulary as well.

[04nbod]

The Reeves part is great I mean it does really go into depth about him and his struggle of being Superman and how his death effected the comic as well. The main bulk of it though is dealing with Chris Reeve though.

thats to be expected though- i'm glad that the TV incarnations aren't getting a rough deal- maybe its because SV is still going and some see it as an unimportant version(considering he doesn't play 'superman').Still would have been nice:)

[Kaboom]

this whole is TW Clark or Superman debate is getting old..............and making me very cranky.

[04nbod]

to be honest this is how i see it

kal el is clark kent, clark kent is superman but we're not there is smallville yet. superman is a job clark hasn't accepted yet but is qualified for(after his training of course)

[Serene]

this whole is TW Clark or Superman debate is getting old..............and making me very cranky.
Hey! I thought I was the only one allowed to be cranky around here??
We should have a contest to see who has the longest Ignore list. LOL.. I bet I'd win. :D

[Kaboom]

probably rene, i don't have anyone on mine and i hate losing! =(

[RakuMon]

In the Wizard 2007 Movie Spectacular (a special edition of the magazine that focuses on movies/tv), there is a six-page feature called "The Best of Smallville" in which the writers run down the best (and worst) of the first six seasons in unique categories such as Best DC Superhero Appearance, Biggest Tease (Besides Lana), "Holy S--T!" Moments #1 & 2, etc.

Here's what they said for "Best Episode" (Rosetta)

Long before "Superman Returns" was even in the cards, Christopher Reeve appeared on "Smallville," passing the Super-mantle to Tom Welling. Reeve played Dr. Virgil Swann (named for prolific Superman artist Curt Swan) a reclusive scientist who told Clark about Krypton and his heroic destiny. It gave fans their first real "Smallville" glimpse into Clark's Superman future. With John Williams' music behind him, Reeve's first appearance made "Rosetta" the best episode of the series.

For "Best Heroic Clark Moment" they chose this:

As meteors rained down on Smallville for the second time in two decades, Clark raced through town saving people, including a little boy who was nearly squashed by a giant rock. That is about as perfectly Superman as it gets!

[Brainiac 8]

I agree about "Rosetta", it was my favorite from the series also.

My favorite heroic moment from the series might have to be the leap to the missile and tearing out it's core. Then falling back to Earth after it exploded. How I loved "Hidden".:woot:

[RakuMon]

I agree about "Rosetta", it was my favorite from the series also.

My favorite heroic moment from the series might have to be the leap to the missile and tearing out it's core. Then falling back to Earth after it exploded. How I loved "Hidden".:woot:
Whoops. I left that one out! Here's their pick for "Most Supermanish Moment"

A high school student fires a nuclear missle at Smallville. As only Superman can, Clark flies (technically a leap, but we know what we saw) into space to stop it. Thankfully he doesn't throw it into the sun, creating Nuclear Man!

[avidreader]

In the Wizard 2007 Movie Spectacular (a special edition of the magazine that focuses on movies/tv), there is a six-page feature called "The Best of Smallville" in which the writers run down the best (and worst) of the first six seasons in unique categories such as Best DC Superhero Appearance, Biggest Tease (Besides Lana), "Holy S--T!" Moments #1 & 2, etc.

Here's what they said for "Best Episode" (Rosetta)

Long before "Superman Returns" was even in the cards, Christopher Reeve appeared on "Smallville," passing the Super-mantle to Tom Welling. Reeve played Dr. Virgil Swann (named for prolific Superman artist Curt Swan) a reclusive scientist who told Clark about Krypton and his heroic destiny. It gave fans their first real "Smallville" glimpse into Clark's Superman future. With John Williams' music behind him, Reeve's first appearance made "Rosetta" the best episode of the series.

For "Best Heroic Clark Moment" they chose this:

As meteors rained down on Smallville for the second time in two decades, Clark raced through town saving people, including a little boy who was nearly squashed by a giant rock. That is about as perfectly Superman as it gets!

Anything else you can feed us?? :cwink:

Just reading that little bit about Rosetta makes you go all goose bumpy. It was a terrific episode. I have too many favourites though, to single just one out.

[Serene]

In the Wizard 2007 Movie Spectacular (a special edition of the magazine that focuses on movies/tv), there is a six-page feature called "The Best of Smallville"

Is this available at bookstores?
Or do you have scans? :D

[Brainiac 8]

I am curious what the rest of the catagories were and their answers...c'mon man spill 'em.:yay:

[Riva]

Yes, please, I second the request for scans.

[RakuMon]

You should be able to find the mag at your comic shop starting yesterday.

This is what it looks like
http://wizarduniverse.com/_images_/002523/mov-cover.gif

[RakuMon]

Yes, please, I second the request for scans.
Unfortunately I can't scan it for ya. Sorry.
If time permits tomorrow, I can transcribe a couple more!

[avidreader]

Is this available at bookstores?
Or do you have scans? :D

I've looked for that Magazine at Borders and the like before, and they dont have it. I checked it out and you can buy it online, but it was $10.00.

[Serene]

You should be able to find the mag at your comic shop starting yesterday.

Guess I'll have to make a stop at the comix shoppe tomorrow.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Routh and Richard Donner comment on all Superman actors including Tom Welling and Smallville:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/l061127_superman/flash.htm

[Billy Batson]

Hey folks, I've uploaded a Slide Show using artwork from this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWv_9qm3bI

[Hush]

Routh and Richard Donner comment on all Superman actors including Tom Welling and Smallville:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/l061127_superman/flash.htm

Donner and Routh basically say they hated Dean Cains performance.

Donner says nothing of Wellings acting ability and Routh actually says that Welling is a good actor and that he plays a very different character from what he did. It is also a different time that he is playing him in as well.

[Serene]

Hey folks, I've uploaded a Slide Show using artwork from this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWv_9qm3bI

That was pretty cool to see, Billy. :)

[Billy Batson]

^ Thanxs! :woot:

[Brainiac 8]

Donner and Routh basically say they hated Dean Cains performance.

Donner says nothing of Wellings acting ability and Routh actually says that Welling is a good actor and that he plays a very different character from what he did. It is also a different time that he is playing him in as well.

I liked Dean Cain as Superman.:csad:

[ariellem]

I liked Dean Cain as Superman.:csad:

I liked Dean as Superman but thought he looked a bit awkward in the suit (plus I don't like his hair slicked back like that). I *loved* him as Clark, and thought he and Teri were great together.

Caught up thru Season 4 at last; Season 5 is on its way (holiday present from DH) :-> Have to start TiVo-ing Season 6 soon enough...

[Hush]

I Loved Cains performance and prefer to call it a highlight of my childhood, I was just posting what Donner and Routh said.

[Brainiac 8]

Wasn't faulting you Hush.

I just hate how hard some people are on Cain as Superman.

His Clark Kent was better than his Superman, but the show highlighted Clark Kent's side of the personality more than the Superman, so it worked out.

Teri Hatcher though is still my favorite Lois Lane.

My Lois and Clark DVDs are among some of my favorite DVDs I own. Right alongside Smallville and Star Trek TOS. :up: :D

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Routh doesn't take Cain seriously? That made me laugh. After watching the show on dvd again recently I can now look past the horrible plots in seasons 3 & 4 and appreciate that Cain despite them is pretty amazing in in the show.

Cain might have looked awkward at times in the tights but made up for it in any scene that really required him to step up. His Clark was fantastic and the chemistry with Hatcher made for some of the most glorious TV that I've ever seen. Routh however looked awkward all of the time in SR.

[Billy Batson]

:supes: Tribute Part II : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNEO8Amqrk is dedicated to all of you :cwink:

[Brainiac 8]

Routh doesn't take Cain seriously? That made me laugh. After watching the show on dvd again recently I can now look past the horrible plots in seasons 3 & 4 and appreciate that Cain despite them is pretty amazing in in the show.

Cain might have looked awkward at times in the tights but made up for it in any scene that really required him to step up. His Clark was fantastic and the chemistry with Hatcher made for some of the most glorious TV that I've ever seen. Routh however looked awkward all of the time in SR.

:up: That's what I'm saying.

[blksuperman2]

:supes: Tribute Part II : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNEO8Amqrk is dedicated to all of you :cwink:

That's awesome Billy. I'm honored that one of my drawings made it into your collage.:woot: :woot: :woot:

[Kal-El 8]

I just hate how hard some people are on Cain as Superman.

His Clark Kent was better than his Superman, but the show highlighted Clark Kent's side of the personality more than the Superman, so it worked out.



His version of superman sucked . His Clark Kent however was awesome .

[Ultimate_Superman]

Routh doesn't take Cain seriously? That made me laugh. After watching the show on dvd again recently I can now look past the horrible plots in seasons 3 & 4 and appreciate that Cain despite them is pretty amazing in in the show.

Cain might have looked awkward at times in the tights but made up for it in any scene that really required him to step up. His Clark was fantastic and the chemistry with Hatcher made for some of the most glorious TV that I've ever seen. Routh however looked awkward all of the time in SR.I agree though Routh did look awkward but for me it was because it is weird seeing another man besides Reeve playing Superman on the big screen. Now don't get me wrong I think he did a good job but I think I would have thought the same if Welling even did it because IMO when you hear that theme and see that \S/ on the screen your looking for Reeve and this time he was not coming :(

[Billy Batson]

That's awesome Billy. I'm honored that one of my drawings made it into your collage.:woot: :woot: :woot:

Please, your artwork is VERY GOOD!
I love your drawings of CAPTAIN MARVEL :up: ,you have the skills to pay the bills. Hope that you'll be drawing one of my favorite comics one day :woot:
The Race is HOT, should be an episode on JLU! :yay:

[Hush]

Wasn't faulting you Hush.

I just hate how hard some people are on Cain as Superman.

His Clark Kent was better than his Superman, but the show highlighted Clark Kent's side of the personality more than the Superman, so it worked out.

Teri Hatcher though is still my favorite Lois Lane.

My Lois and Clark DVDs are among some of my favorite DVDs I own. Right alongside Smallville and Star Trek TOS. :up: :D


O yeah I totally agree. His Clark was such a new and interesting take from the bumbling buffoon of Reeve it was nice to see change. I dislike just as much as you do when people discredit his performance, ecspecially Routh who has done 1 movie and has less experience as an actor. For the record i enjoyed Routh's performance and in no way am bashing SR.

[blksuperman2]

Please, your artwork is VERY GOOD!
I love your drawings of CAPTAIN MARVEL :up: ,you have the skills to pay the bills. Hope that you'll be drawing one of my favorite comics one day :woot:
The Race is HOT, should be an episode on JLU! :yay:

Thanks man. I hope to do a better version of "The Big Red Cheese" in the near future.:woot:

[Serene]

:supes: Tribute Part II : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNEO8Amqrk is dedicated to all of you :cwink:

Oh, Billy.. that was REALLY sweet!
Thank you for compiling all those, and thanks for including one of my manips. :)

[avidreader]

Tribute Part II : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNEO8Amqrk is dedicated to all of you :cwink:

Wow! Totally cool. :supes:

[Ultimate_Superman]

How would you feel if Welling wanted to play Captain Marvel? I mean he is almost like Superman and I think it would be a great role for him.

[AgentPat]

Hey Billy, Kudos! That was awesome. :D :up:

How would you feel if Welling wanted to play Captain Marvel? I mean he is almost like Superman and I think it would be a great role for him.How I feel about what he wants is irrelevant to what he does. Whatever makes the man happy if fine by me. I'll watch him regardless of the role.

I'm ignoring the "almost like Superman" part 'cause I don't feel like riding the merry-go-round again this morning.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I am not trying to start a merry go round thing Pat. I am just stating that they are almost the same hero so how would you feel if he played Captain Marvel. IMO he does have the build for it and the right look. Also for the record Pat the almost like Superman was for the people who know nothing about Captain Marvel.

[04nbod]

remembering what happened in justice league unlimited between the two that could be quite funny

[Ultimate_Superman]

It will and it won't because that means Superman will have to come out on top and if Welling was CM that wouldn't go over to well here and it would start a lot of trouble. But I did love "The Clash" (the name of that show from JLU)

[SamuraiSon6]

Here is my first manip ever.....
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7415/supermantommanipcj3.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermantommanipcj3.jpg)
Hope everybody likes it!

[SamuraiSon6]

Here's my next....
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/238/supermantomredny0.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermantomredny0.jpg)

[Thunder Emperor]

Here's my next....
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/238/supermantomredny0.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermantomredny0.jpg)
nice

[Billy Batson]

Thanks man. I hope to do a better version of "The Big Red Cheese" in the near future.:woot:

:woot: :up: :cool:

[Billy Batson]

Oh, Billy.. that was REALLY sweet!
Thank you for compiling all those, and thanks for including one of my manips. :)

Your welcome, my :heart: ! :cwink:

[Billy Batson]

Wow! Totally cool. :supes:

Thankyou! :yay:

[ariellem]

Here's my next....
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/238/supermantomredny0.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermantomredny0.jpg)

Like the manip a lot. Great way of getting TW into comic-book form :yay:Maybe it's my bad eyesight - what's that laser-like thing coming out of his ear? Krypton exploding? That's distracting.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10754267&posted=1#post10754267 (from the SR sequel forum) loooooool

[AgentPat]

***HYDRO SPOILER***
(I'm posting this here because... well... just read LOL)


From Todd Slavkin in the current issue of Sci-fi magazine:

"Clark's beginning to experience what it's really like to be a superhero. And he's going through the challenges of, you know, unless he meets that superhero woman, how can he connect with another person," says Swimmer.

"It's the plight of Superman being half-human and half-alien," says Slavkin. "I will tease out a wonderful red-kryptonite episode coming up" just in time for Valentine's Day. "And let's just say his valentine in that episode will floor our audience."

I'm guessing the "no flights" rule is gonna get bent again, BIG TIME! :D :up:


More spoilers from Slavkin in the Hydro thread. :)

[avidreader]

***HYDRO SPOILER***
(I'm posting this here because... well... just read LOL)


From Todd Slavkin in the current issue of Sci-fi magazine:

"Clark's beginning to experience what it's really like to be a superhero. And he's going through the challenges of, you know, unless he meets that superhero woman, how can he connect with another person," says Swimmer.

"It's the plight of Superman being half-human and half-alien," says Slavkin. "I will tease out a wonderful red-kryptonite episode coming up" just in time for Valentine's Day. "And let's just say his valentine in that episode will floor our audience."

I'm guessing the "no flights" rule is gonna get bent again, BIG TIME! :D :up:


More spoilers from Slavkin in the Hydro thread. :)

I need to re-read that interview. I dont recall reading that.

I'm losing my mind. :wow:

But what a wonderful and clever way to have Clark realise that Lois is something else.

[blksuperman2]

When did Superman become half-human????:huh: :huh:

[Billy Batson]

***HYDRO SPOILER***
(I'm posting this here because... well... just read LOL)


From Todd Slavkin in the current issue of Sci-fi magazine:

"Clark's beginning to experience what it's really like to be a superhero. And he's going through the challenges of, you know, unless he meets that superhero woman, how can he connect with another person," says Swimmer.

"It's the plight of Superman being half-human and half-alien," says Slavkin. "I will tease out a wonderful red-kryptonite episode coming up" just in time for Valentine's Day. "And let's just say his valentine in that episode will floor our audience."

I'm guessing the "no flights" rule is gonna get bent again, BIG TIME! :D :up:


More spoilers from Slavkin in the Hydro thread. :)

:ww:onderWomen? :wow:

[user123456789]

***HYDRO SPOILER***
(I'm posting this here because... well... just read LOL)


From Todd Slavkin in the current issue of Sci-fi magazine:
"Clark's beginning to experience what it's really like to be a superhero. And he's going through the challenges of, you know, unless he meets that superhero woman, how can he connect with another person," says Swimmer.

"It's the plight of Superman being half-human and half-alien," says Slavkin. "I will tease out a wonderful red-kryptonite episode coming up" just in time for Valentine's Day. "And let's just say his valentine in that episode will floor our audience." I'm guessing the "no flights" rule is gonna get bent again, BIG TIME! :D :up:


More spoilers from Slavkin in the Hydro thread. :)
so its gonna be clark taking lois flying?

how did you guys infer that from this spoiler?

[AgentPat]

I need to re-read that interview. I dont recall reading that...Hey Avid, that Slavkin quote is from Sci-Fi Magazine, not SV Magazine, in case you thought I meant the latter.

[AgentPat]

so its gonna be clark taking lois flying?

how did you guys infer that from this spoiler?'Cause Clark and MM are the only two characters that can fly, and MM taking Lois flying seems rather dumb? LOL

[Katsuro]

Watch everyone get played for fools and it winds up just Lois in an airplane for some reason.

[The Incredible Hulk]

maybe a hang glider? :)

[avidreader]

Hey Avid, that Slavkin quote is from Sci-Fi Magazine, not SV Magazine, in case you thought I meant the latter.

Oh, okay. I thought I was going crazy there for a minute.

Thanks for reinstating my sanity. :woot:

[Brainiac 8]

Oh, okay. I thought I was going crazy there for a minute.

Thanks for reinstating my sanity. :woot:


*Wisely keeps mouth shut at this*:cwink: :p

[RakuMon]

Like the manip a lot. Great way of getting TW into comic-book form :yay:Maybe it's my bad eyesight - what's that laser-like thing coming out of his ear? Krypton exploding? That's distracting.
That's from the original Jim Lee art used in the manip. In the original, Superman's left eye is glowing red with heat vision.

[avidreader]

I found this neat little link via DTTW (http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26440)

http://www.cwtv.com/thecw/style-smallville-c

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/suetomup/SVCKCWStyle.jpg

[Migu-EL]

maybe a hang glider? :)

lol:woot:

[The Incredible Hulk]

***HYDRO SPOILER***
(I'm posting this here because... well... just read LOL)


From Todd Slavkin in the current issue of Sci-fi magazine:

"Clark's beginning to experience what it's really like to be a superhero. And he's going through the challenges of, you know, unless he meets that superhero woman, how can he connect with another person," says Swimmer.

"It's the plight of Superman being half-human and half-alien," says Slavkin. "I will tease out a wonderful red-kryptonite episode coming up" just in time for Valentine's Day. "And let's just say his valentine in that episode will floor our audience."

I'm guessing the "no flights" rule is gonna get bent again, BIG TIME! :D :up:


More spoilers from Slavkin in the Hydro thread. :)

so does this mean umm that Clark is going to plow Lois like the fields of Kansas?? :eek:

[phil]

so does this mean umm that Clark is going to plow Lois like the fields of Kansas?? :eek:
I hope they show it
:wow:

[Brainiac 8]

Smallville XXX :wow:

Only on HBO!!!!

[AgentPat]

I hope they show it
:wow:Hah! So do I. LOL :D

I'm all about living vicariously.

[ariellem]

That's from the original Jim Lee art used in the manip. In the original, Superman's left eye is glowing red with heat vision.

<Mr. Burns voice>EXcellent.</MBV> Thanks for the explanation!

[ariellem]

Smallville XXX :wow:

Only on HBO!!!!

NOT only on HBO - we don't get HBO! Would explain the rumors of a miniseries, though... Y'know, the Sci-Fi channel might go for it...:word:

[ariellem]

I found this neat little link via DTTW (http://www.devotedfansnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26440)

http://www.cwtv.com/thecw/style-smallville-c
...


Have they ever shown the inside of Clark's closet on SV? Is it like the one the diplomat's son had for the strippers in Exposed? Even though Clark burns/mangles/shreds/gets shot in outfits, he seems to have more identical shirts and jackets in the next scene or episode. THIS is why the farm is close to going under: replacement Clark clothing!

[AgentPat]

In the January 15th - 21st issue of TV Guide, "Cheers & Jeers" section...

CHEERS to Warner Bros. for making a Babylon 5 direct-to-DVD movie. The cult sci-fi series' creator, J. Michael Straczynski, will write and direct "Babylon 5: The Lost Tales," featuring returning stars Bruce Boxleitner, Tracy Scoggins and Peter Woodward. Fans won't have to wait until the 23rd century - it's slated for release later this year.


*cough*


:hyper:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Problem is if they do this with SV they should have done it before Clark looks to old. Plus IMO I wouldn't want to see him in SV as Clark Kent if they do a movie but as Superman and that won't happen.

[Brainiac 8]

In the January 15th - 21st issue of TV Guide, "Cheers & Jeers" section...

CHEERS to Warner Bros. for making a Babylon 5 direct-to-DVD movie. The cult sci-fi series' creator, J. Michael Straczynski, will write and direct "Babylon 5: The Lost Tales," featuring returning stars Bruce Boxleitner, Tracy Scoggins and Peter Woodward. Fans won't have to wait until the 23rd century - it's slated for release later this year.

*cough*


:hyper:


Babylon 5 was a horrible, lame show.

I would love a Smallville movie though. :D

[LexCorp]

B5 was not that bad.

[AgentPat]

Problem is if they do this with SV they should have done it before Clark looks to old.Yeah, 'cause he's starting to look pretty long-in-the-tooth now, especially when you compare him to other actors who've played the character. :p

Plus IMO I wouldn't want to see him in SV as Clark Kent if they do a movie but as Superman and that won't happen.I'll take whatever they want to dish out. I'm not going to assume to know what will or won't happen either. Babylon 5 was cancelled NINE years ago. Who'da thunk? :huh:

[RakuMon]

In the January 15th - 21st issue of TV Guide, "Cheers & Jeers" section...

CHEERS to Warner Bros. for making a Babylon 5 direct-to-DVD movie. The cult sci-fi series' creator, J. Michael Straczynski, will write and direct "Babylon 5: The Lost Tales," featuring returning stars Bruce Boxleitner, Tracy Scoggins and Peter Woodward. Fans won't have to wait until the 23rd century - it's slated for release later this year.


*cough*


:hyper:

Oh Pat. Why do you tease me so?!

[Ultimate_Superman]

Yeah, 'cause he's starting to look pretty long-in-the-tooth now, especially when you compare him to other actors who've played the character.Well your right there compared to Jeff East and Stephan Bender he would look a little older since he is only playing Young Clark Kent and not Superman:p


I'll take whatever they want to dish out. I'm not going to assume to know what will or won't happen either. Babylon 5 was cancelled NINE years ago. Who'da thunk?

I would expect it I mean it may have been canceled nine years ago but they still have been doing DTV for it since then for a while now.

[blksuperman2]

Babylon 5 was a horrible, lame show.

I would love a Smallville movie though. :D


Whoa buddy. We usually see eye 2 eye on the Sci-fi geek stuff but I'd have to disagree on this. Seasons 3 and 4 of Babylon 5 were IMO the best written stuff ever. Yeah the show started off meh especially because it air'd the same time as the better DS9 was airing but it gradually became epic.

[SamuraiSon6]

everyone seemed to like this manip a lot, but wanted a hair curl so i added one, i did not make this amazing manip, i simply added the hair curl to try and please more people...

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3171/supermannight1024curllo7.jpg


comments....

[Bruce_Wayne29]

The Superman home page has a poll asking which actor from the current movie should be replaced in a new Superman movie. It's your chance to make your vote count.

[AgentPat]

The Superman home page has a poll asking which actor from the current movie should be replaced in a new Superman movie. It's your chance to make your vote count.EDIT: I just re-registered (for the third time GAH!), and I can now see the poll. Voted. [Insert typical snarky comment ala Pat here.] :p

I got curious and looked at the other recent polls there. Interesting. I'll leave it at that. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/smug.gif


SamuraiSon6, nice job on the spit curl. Didn't Zing add one though? I don't remember? :huh:

[avidreader]

The Superman home page has a poll asking which actor from the current movie should be replaced in a new Superman movie. It's your chance to make your vote count.

Got a link???

[AgentPat]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/

:)

[avidreader]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/

:)

Thanks. :yay:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

lool ppl really hated Bosworth's portrayal it seems...

Plus, I don't know when this poll was done (since I don't remember seeing it or voting in it) but still it got 38% of the votes...
Should Warner Bros. allow "Smallville" to run for a few years and then make a big-budget Superman movie using the "Smallville" cast?
votes perc
1.) Yes, they're crazy if they don't! 473 38%
2.) Yes, I think they should 116 9%
3.) Undecided 29 2%
4.) No, I don't think they should 40 3%
5.) No way, they should make a Superman movie ASAP without the "Smallville" cast 583 46%
6.) Other 15 1%

Even though the makers of "Smallville" have always stated "No Flights, No Tights", which of the two would you prefer to see?
votes perc
1.) Clark flying 423 56%
2.) Clark wearing the Superman costume 264 35%
3.) Neither

Which actor do you think made the best Clark Kent?
votes perc
1.) Kirk Alyn 4 0%
2.) George Reeves 52 5%
3.) Christopher Reeve 474 50%
4.) Dean Cain 146 15%
5.) John Haymes Newton 11 1%
6.) Gerard Christopher 6 1%
7.) Tom Welling 260 27%


And this one I had never seen there:
Who would you prefer to play Superman in a new movie?
votes perc
1.) An unknown actor 337 37%
2.) Nicolas Cage 16 2%
3.) Brendan Fraser 64 7%
4.) Russell Crowe 27 3%
5.) David Boreanaz 35 4%
6.) Tom Welling 241 27%
7.) Other 166 18%
8.) Undecided 21 2%

[SamuraiSon6]

SamuraiSon6, nice job on the spit curl. Didn't Zing add one though? I don't remember? :huh:

oh i dont know, i never did see it...?

[Serene]

I wasn't sure which thread to put this in. This one seems most appropriate though.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1934/justiceckb9ms.jpg

[avidreader]

Wow! That's amazing Serene. Excellent job! :wow:
:heart:

[Whiteflag]

I wasn't sure which thread to put this in. This one seems most appropriate though.


http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1934/justiceckb9ms.jpg


Wow, Serene, you've outdone yourself! It's awesome! :heart: