Tom Welling as Superman

[avidreader]

She can respond anyway she wants. See avi this debate is not a matter of fact but opinion which is why I say we can go back a forward with this debate for pages on end and in the end we'll be right back at square one. For example I can say Cain's Superman is the greatest that ever was and I can give all these reasons that I think backs it up but in the end does that truly make him the greatest? No, only to me will he be just like to alot of you Welling is the best Clark Kent ever. So reather then go back and forward with her I am just dropping it but its not worth taking time out of my life to debate something like this.

Pat made me see this after we had a dumb debate over Clark wearing glasses in Superman Returns.


You're perfectly free to interpret anything the way that you want, but the points you were making in your previous post came across as a matter of fact rather than your own personal feelings.

Points like this:

but what I am getting at is Superman has a presence about him that makes you want to do better and be better. It's not just about how he says "Get out of here now" and crap like that. His actions are suppose to inspire you to do better and keep going and never giving up. Welling's Clark does not display these qualities

I was saying that there are several instances, where Clark does display these qualities.

[Conan]

You're perfectly free to interpret anything the way that you want, but the points you were making in your previous post came across as a matter of fact rather than your own personal feelings.

Points like this:



I was saying that there are several instances, where Clark does display these qualities.And if you take the time to read the other post I am going off my feelings that post is nothing more then part what ever number to my first reply post.

[avidreader]

And if you take the time to read the other post I am going off my feelings that post is nothing more then part what ever number to my first reply post.

I DID take the time to read your posts, (although I'll admit it was a bit confusing since your post was part of the quote) but I was responding to that particular post, where you were talking about something that was slightly different from your previous posts.

[Conan]

I DID take the time to read your posts, (although I'll admit it was a bit confusing since your post was part of the quote) but I was responding to that particular post, where you were talking about something that was slightly different from your previous posts.Not really I was just responding to when Pat responded to me but next time I will put I in there so it will be less confusing.

[ariellem]

So WHAT is that in his back pocket. The current page of the script??

Nah - directions to Lex's house. He keeps forgetting where it is.

[KalKai]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3726/kubvengbr9.jpg

:cool: :D

[BareKnucklez]

[quote=AgentPat;11930998]Looks like it, yes. It was probably off camera, so he could get away with it. More notable script faux pas have shown up ON the show however, the most egregious one was the one in Allison Mack's hands as Chloe hugged Clark after his return from the PZ in Zod...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/zod4.jpg

She runs up to him with nothing in her hands. She hugs him. We see her face, then Clark's, and then back to Chloe. Except on the last shot of her in the *same* embrace, a bunch of papers mysteriously appear in her hands.

D'OH!!!

Honestly, how do they miss that sheit? LOLOL!!!

I try. :D




[/quote

eh maybe that's like part of her powers!?

She's a Mindfreak!!! :p :up:

[AgentPat]

*POOF*

Phew, that was quick. Thanks guys! :up:


Moving on...

Kai, AWESOME panel dude! Very, VERY niiiice! :)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3726/kubvengbr9.jpg

[Bruce_Wayne29]

For those of you that were disapointed with the Superman movie and especially the casting, here's an interesting article on how to voice your opinions to Alan Horn and Jeff Robinov and it includes their email and mail adresses to where you can direct your emails and letters about this subject. Check it out: http://singerssupermansucks.blogspot.com/

[AgentPat]

Oh. My. Bleeping GOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's real folks. It's freakin' real. Holy Christ!!!!!!!!!!

[avidreader]

Oh. My. Bleeping GOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's real folks. It's freakin' real. Holy Christ!!!!!!!!!!

So you're cracking the champagne in here, not the other thread. :woot:

Yippeeee!!!!!!!

[MJZ]

Well he's been approached they claim, I think the jubilation is highly pre-mature at this point...

[AgentPat]

Well he's been approached they claim, I think the jubilation is highly pre-mature at this point...Jubilation was premature an hour ago. Now? Not so much. :p

[OobeDoobBenubi]

People are calming down now. Fans are just excited that he was at least asked to do it & Smallville is at a place now where Clark can move on & away from Smallville with them introducing Supergirl.

[MJZ]

Jubilation was premature an hour ago. Now? Not so much. :p

Yeah but I mean all they're claiming is he's been approached, I haven't read anything about him signing or what not.

[The Incredible Hulk]

so this is our last refuge to talk about this now?

[Brainiac 8]

Woohoo! :up: :huh:

As long as there is no yappy yappy argue argue, Clee said we could continue the whole JLA/Tom/Rawks conversation here.:ninja:

[AgentPat]

so this is our last refuge to talk about this now?In this forum, yes, which is very nice of C. Lee, so lets not make waves. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/grouphug.gif

Seriously now guys, WELLING ONLY here! That means NO discussion of topics outside of Welling as Superman, including jokes that poke fun of other people, actors or films. If you cut and paste an article, try to limit the posted portions to Welling's participation or lack thereof only. Include a link so that everybody can read the whole article if they wish.

This is the *second* try at a thread with this topic. The first one - the biggest thread in this forum up to that point - was closed because of fighting. Lets NOT have that happen again, capice? :csad:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Chuck from Kryptonfan speaks to Sanchez and Younis about what went down last Friday

http://www.pluggd.com/audio/channels/krypton_fan/episodes/2zjth

[GreenKToo]

I dont like the latest rumors from IEsB, but they are rumors after all.


WB is planning to cast very big for the heroes. names thrown around: jake gyllenhaal, leo dicaprio, jessica biel. mel gibson is liked for max lord. scarlett johanssen for talia. bruce willis was mentioned for lex. tom welling isnt happening


http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3161&Itemid=99

[The Incredible Hulk]

that's BS. pretty much all of those actors named are booked through early next year.

[Brainiac 8]

Personally I think they need to avoid huge actors and stick to either non A-listers or unknowns.

If they fill it with big name actors they'll for one, use up their monetary supplies. And number two, we'll have a "Batman and Robin" fiasco on our hands again. Someone give Schumacher a call. :p

They can just use Batman's costume from that movie, and add rubber nipples to all the costumes. :eek: ;)

[triplet]

I dont like the latest rumors from IEsB, but they are rumors after all.


WB is planning to cast very big for the heroes. names thrown around: jake gyllenhaal, leo dicaprio, jessica biel. mel gibson is liked for max lord. scarlett johanssen for talia. bruce willis was mentioned for lex. tom welling isnt happening


http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3161&Itemid=99

I think most of that "report" is BS, personally...

They're not going to have Johannsen, Biel, Willis, DeCaprio, Gibson and Gyllenhaal in the same film....

No way are they going to drop 100 million plus on talent even before they start paying for anything else.

[RakuMon]

I call shenanigans on that report as well. It sounds like some fanboy wanking to me. The plot synopsis is just a combination of the OMAC and White Martians story arcs. Funny how this "source" chimed in as soon as those rumors came out?

[Brainiac 8]

Sad as it is, I think no matter what they do...the movie has a great probability to suck very hard.:csad:

[GreenKToo]

I think most of that "report" is BS, personally...

They're not going to have Johannsen, Biel, Willis, DeCaprio, Gibson and Gyllenhaal in the same film....

No way are they going to drop 100 million plus on talent even before they start paying for anything else.
yeah, I dont really believe it either. just thought i'd throw it out there.

[TWistim]

Chuck from Kryptonfan speaks to Sanchez and Younis about what went down last Friday

http://www.pluggd.com/audio/channels/krypton_fan/episodes/2zjth


Thanks, Hulk. :yay: The interview with Robert Sanchez was especially enlightning. He made some very good points and came off sounding legit to me.

[triplet]

yeah, I dont really believe it either. just thought i'd throw it out there.

Oh, I know.

You basically said that it was just the most recent rumor in your post, so I was just clarifying.

:ninja: ;) :D

[musclesforsupes]

So what did that krypton podcast say about welling I cant download it :(

[The Incredible Hulk]

you dont need to download it, you can just play it right on that page

[musclesforsupes]

I cant open that page at work :(

[Justice Bringer]

They interviewed Sanchez.

He said JLA is happening and George Miller will be officially announced.

He said Tom Welling is a lock for the Superman role.

He revealed some plot details from the OMAC story; Superman brainwashed, Batman VS Wonder Woman VS Superman, Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord

He revealed it will feature on the superheroes and not their other identities; Batman but not Bruce Wayne. No Lex, Lois etc

He said a casting director will be announced next week.

He said the choice for the new Batman is 'badass' and he has been told its a better choice than Bale.

He said Ryan Reynolds is in talks for Flash.

He explained why Jon Stewart IS the GL.

Sanchez revealed the reasons why the studio is split and wants this for Summer 2009. I hate to say it but from a business standpoint, they may be right; but it could be a major divider from a fan standpoint; but they wouldnt care about that.

[Spidey Lover 10]

Vote Tom Welling For President!!! Lol!!!!

[musclesforsupes]

I read that shancez is going to make an announcement this afternoon about more details is that true?

[avidreader]

Chuck from Kryptonfan speaks to Sanchez and Younis about what went down last Friday

http://www.pluggd.com/audio/channels/krypton_fan/episodes/2zjth

Did he have anything interesting or new to say? Is it worth my time in listening?

[Justice Bringer]

Thanks for posting that Hulk.

The whole thing is worth a listen if you filter out that guy's announcing voice.

At this point, I have no idea what would be the best move for the studio to do. It is a pretty dividing issue when I tried to look at it objectively. I think I'm just going to sit back and watch whatever happen...happen.

[AgentPat]

Did he have anything interesting or new to say? Is it worth my time in listening?Oh, MAN, did he ever! That was a crazy good interview, and I'm only up to the 34 min mark (I keep getting interrupted LOL) Avid, so far it's amazing. Listen to it. Extremely enlightening about the big picture. The who, what, when, and whys. Check it out! :up:

I'll go back and transcribe the Welling relevant parts after I hear the whole thing. It's like a good book - I can't put it down. LOL

PS: Bottom line: Sanchez still says Welling is in. :hyper:

[The Caped Knight]

IMO if Tom has Indeed decide to finally take up The Mantel and become SUPERMAN . Then I'd rather see him FIRST become Superman in the series finale on smallville . Before the big Screen . He Started with smallville it should end in smallville . Then if TPTB @ The WB decide (For some reason) that they would rather have Tom , Erica , & Michael on the big screen instead of having R.B.S. reutrn for the sequel to SR . (I'm all for it.)

[avidreader]

Oh, MAN, did he ever! That was a crazy good interview, and I'm only up to the 34 min mark (I keep getting interrupted LOL) Avid, so far it's amazing. Listen to it. Extremely enlightening about the big picture. The who, what, when, and whys. Check it out! :up:

I'll go back and transcribe the Welling relevant parts after I hear the whole thing. It's like a good book - I can't put it down. LOL

PS: Bottom line: Sanchez still says Welling is in. :hyper:

Okay then. I only need to hear that from one of my buds and I know its worth a listen.

Thanks Pat. :heart:

[dark_b]

They interviewed Sanchez.

He said JLA is happening and George Miller will be officially announced.

He said Tom Welling is a lock for the Superman role.

He revealed some plot details from the OMAC story; Superman brainwashed, Batman VS Wonder Woman VS Superman, Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord

He revealed it will feature on the superheroes and not their other identities; Batman but not Bruce Wayne. No Lex, Lois etc

He said a casting director will be announced next week.

He said the choice for the new Batman is 'badass' and he has been told its a better choice than Bale.

He said Ryan Reynolds is in talks for Flash.

He explained why Jon Stewart IS the GL.

Sanchez revealed the reasons why the studio is split and wants this for Summer 2009. I hate to say it but from a business standpoint, they may be right; but it could be a major divider from a fan standpoint; but they wouldnt care about that.
since whne does WB know how to make money?

they did catwoman and batman & robin. and lets not forget supeerman returns. it had a huuuuuuuge budget. it had 200 milions .and look SR. does this look like a summer action movie? does it look like it will make milions?

come on.

and to think that WB will now make this right is............ IMO crazy :dry:

i hope that JL doesnt get made. if it does i hope welling is not part of it. i dont want that welling after 7 seasons of smallville makes a bad JL movie.
poor guy.

[Justice Bringer]

Indeed good news. I do wonder w ho they will get to play the role of BATMAN! :wow:

Michael Keaton.

If only. But I'm sure it would be the only choice that wouldnt piss Nolan and the Bat-fans off.

[The Caped Knight]

Indeed good news. I do wonder w ho they will get to play the role of BATMAN! :wow:

That's What I want to know too. :wow: :batty:

[Justice Bringer]

since whne does WB know how to make money?

they did catwoman and batman & robin. and lets not forget supeerman returns. it had a huuuuuuuge budget. it had 200 milions .and look SR. does this look like a summer action movie? does it look like it will make milions?

come on.

and to think that WB will now make this right is............ IMO crazy :dry:

i hope that JL doesnt get made. if it does i hope welling is not part of it. i dont want that welling after 7 seasons of smallville makes a bad JL movie.
poor guy.

Good or bad; JLA will make money.

That many big gun superheroes all crammed into one picture with such huge action sequences; theres no doubt it will make money. It can't not.

I can guarantee the current script will piss fanboys off; but thats irrelevant since it will make money.

[dark_b]

Good or bad; JLA will make money.

That many big gun superheroes all crammed into one picture with such huge action sequences; theres no doubt it will make money. It can't not.

I can guarantee the current script will piss fanboys off; but thats irrelevant since it will make money.and i think that because it is WB there is a big chance that this movie will bomb.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That was a crazy good interview

I agee it was a very good interview & Robert seems as sure as hell that all of this will happen. He was asked about everything & a Batman actor better then Bale. Interesting

[triplet]

Oh, MAN, did he ever! That was a crazy good interview, and I'm only up to the 34 min mark (I keep getting interrupted LOL) Avid, so far it's amazing. Listen to it. Extremely enlightening about the big picture. The who, what, when, and whys. Check it out! :up:

I'll go back and transcribe the Welling relevant parts after I hear the whole thing. It's like a good book - I can't put it down. LOL

PS: Bottom line: Sanchez still says Welling is in. :hyper:

I can't listen to this at work...

:(

[The Incredible Hulk]

Sanchez also added that the Batman actor either was nominated for or won an Oscar...

Gyllenhall?
Damon?
Gosling?


Clooney? :eek:

[mellyM]

IMO if Tom has Indeed decide to finally take up The Mantel and become SUPERMAN . Then I'd rather see him FIRST become Superman in the series finale on smallville . Before the big Screen . He Started with smallville it should end in smallville . Then if TPTB @ The WB decide (For some reason) that they would rather have Tom , Erica , & Michael on the big screen instead of having R.B.S. reutrn for the sequel to SR . (I'm all for it.)

Well technically he will be Superman on SV first if the movie doesnt come out til 2009, Smallville will be over and done with by then even if we get an 8th season. I don't think we need a Smallville movie, Tom as some incarnation as Superman is good enough.

[mellyM]

since whne does WB know how to make money?

they did catwoman and batman & robin. and lets not forget supeerman returns. it had a huuuuuuuge budget. it had 200 milions .and look SR. does this look like a summer action movie? does it look like it will make milions?

come on.

and to think that WB will now make this right is............ IMO crazy :dry:

i hope that JL doesnt get made. if it does i hope welling is not part of it. i dont want that welling after 7 seasons of smallville makes a bad JL movie.
poor guy.

I thought Batman Begins was a good film.....

[The Incredible Hulk]

Well technically he will be Superman on SV first if the movie doesnt come out til 2009, Smallville will be over and done with by then even if we get an 8th season. I don't think we need a Smallville movie, Tom as some incarnation as Superman is good enough.

yeah, a lot of people keep forgetting that and acting like there will be a season of the show after the movie. A season after he SHOOTS the movie yes, not after the movie unspools.

I'm looking at you, Steve Younis

[Brainiac 8]

I thought Batman Begins was a good film.....

It wasn't good.

It was great. :up:

[Justice Bringer]

Well technically he will be Superman on SV first if the movie doesnt come out til 2009, Smallville will be over and done with by then even if we get an 8th season. I don't think we need a Smallville movie, Tom as some incarnation as Superman is good enough.

If they are using Tom, I think they really need to revise the script so it doesnt counter SV but flows with it.

Write Flash as Bart Allen instead of Barry but perhaps have RR play the older version, keep Aquaman the same etc.

It would be too confusing to Smallville fans if its Tom continuing the character but in a completely different universe.

[avidreader]

It wasn't good.

It was great. :up:

I'm still yet to watch that movie without falling asleep. :O

How about if they back Clooney or Kilmer? heh wouldn't mind Kilmer I liked his version of BATMAN.

Have you seen him lately? He would need to do some serious work outs to get into shape for Batman.

[Justice Bringer]

How about if they back Clooney or Kilmer? heh wouldn't mind Kilmer I liked his version of BATMAN.

You know who would be cool? The guy who played Batman in the commercials that were on air prior to BATMAN BEGINS was given the role... He was BADASS as BATMAN!

No I dont want this in the same universe as Clooney and Kilmer.

I dont want Welling running around with nipples on his suit.

[Brainiac 8]

No I dont want this in the same universe as Clooney and Kilmer.

I dont want Welling running around with nipples on his suit.

Nipples on the wonder woman costume on the other hand..... :O

[GreenKToo]

The Batman casting has got me very interested.
Better than Bale he says. makes me wonder who.
I hope its G.Butler, C.Owen, or M.Damon.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Bad Guy - This Is Madness
Batman - Madness, This Is GOTHAM CITY
Superman - Jawohl, Batman

[Justice Bringer]

Nipples on the wonder woman costume on the other hand..... :O

If nipples are necessary, I could live with that compromise.

[Brainiac 8]

If nipples are necessary, I could live with that compromise.

Oh yea, me too.... :up: :word:

[mellyM]

If they are using Tom, I think they really need to revise the script so it doesnt counter SV but flows with it.

Write Flash as Bart Allen instead of Barry but perhaps have RR play the older version, keep Aquaman the same etc.

It would be too confusing to Smallville fans if its Tom continuing the character but in a completely different universe.

I think us Smallville fans are pretty smart and can handle seeing another storyline that has nothing to do with Smallville:)

[Justice Bringer]

Not everyone. It would be quite confusing to the general audience too.

If they use Welling, tieing up the continuity with Smallville would be smart and logical than using the same actor for multiple different versions on different mediums for the same character.

It wouldnt be a hard thing to do either; to make minor changes so it fits with SV. That JLA script needs to be revised regardless.

[AgentPat]

I can't listen to this at work...

:(Here's a few excerpts to whet your appetite and tide you over till you can hear the whole thing. It's the best podcast I've heard from that site.

I've included the time stamps where these excerpts occur in the program...


20:24
Krypton Fan: Where did all this start [news about TW being in JLA]

Robert Sanchez: Look, let me very clear about something. This is not my first choice. I don't want people to think we're make this [up]. There's a couple of sites out there right now that are claiming we're doing this just to build up traffic. That's not the way I work. We report it as we hear it. I actually heard this Tom Welling rumor ... for the last month. Is it Welling? As of right now, all my sources are telling me Welling is in.

I understand that Al Gough went on and said "that's not true, that's impossible." But listen, he's saying that it can't be because TW is committed through season 8 on SV, but didn't he do the CBTD films? Didn't he do the Fog film? Don't tell me he can't do another film. He can do another film if he wants to. Is he part of it? Again, my sources are telling me, yes.

22:47
Robert Sanchez: My sources have been dead on and I have to give them that much credibility. They've never been wrong to me. They're telling me Welling's it. I'm going to try to find out more information this week, but all indications are yes, Welling will be Superman in the Justice League.

32:42
Robert Sanchez: From what I'm hearing, MOS will continue on, just like Nolan's Batman are going to continue on. Can I say that 100% right now? No. I am more doubtful about that then I am about Justice League starting January 2008. The only reason I'm saying that is, what happens when people are introduced to a new Superman, which again, we believe is going to be Tom Welling? I think a good argument could be made that you'd want to introduce a new Superman stand-alone film with TW. At the same time, maybe they'll do this in the X-Men style and they'll just do three or four stand-alone Justice League films and not spin-off films.

Krypton Fan: In your opinion, for DC, which would be more productive - to continue doing stand-alone films or just branch and do Justice League?

Robert Sanchez: Look man, you do a good Justice League movie, it's gonna make $400M domestically. It'll do Transformers' numbers. If you do Justice League right, it'll do Transformers' numbers. It'll do 6, 7 hundred million worldwide with merchandising and toys and everything, it's a billion dollar franchise...

[The Incredible Hulk]

They've got my $9. probably 10 times that if Welling is in it.

[AgentPat]

They've got my $9. probably 10 times that if Welling is in it.Do bears poop in the woods? The whole thing sounds just too good to be true, which does worry me a little. I hope they can pull this sucker off and get a cast that will knock people's socks off.

I wonder if the lack of a producer on the film has anything to do with the desire to go with Welling? You know, film production by committee? If JLA is greenlit, I'll be interested to hear what Miller's input was on the whole casting thing since a lot of the other names seem to be Warner choices, not necessarily the director's? That said, the rumor is a casting director will be hired/announced soon, so I guess we'll see. So, sooooo many questions.

[RakuMon]

Sanchez also added that the Batman actor either was nominated for or won an Oscar...

Gyllenhall?
Damon?
Gosling?


Clooney? :eek:
*plug* Check out this post (http://lokblogging.blogspot.com/2007/06/batman-oscar-updated.html)about Batman's relationship with Oscar. *plug*
If they are using Tom, I think they really need to revise the script so it doesnt counter SV but flows with it.

Write Flash as Bart Allen instead of Barry but perhaps have RR play the older version, keep Aquaman the same etc.

It would be too confusing to Smallville fans if its Tom continuing the character but in a completely different universe.
Um, I'm a Smallville fan, and I ain't confused. In fact, I hate that aspect of WB's thinking. It's not impossible to have various incarnations of the same character floating around. There already are MULTIPLE versions of Superman today. To wit: Smallville, Superman Returns, the Christopher Reeve Superman films, Superman on Legion, Superman on The Batman, Superman in JLU, Dean Cain's Superman, Max Fleischer's Superman... All of these Supermans(men?) exist. And no one's confused. If you want confusing, let's discuss the "multiverse" and all the varying Supermans in the comics where you have Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, Kingdom Come, Earth-1, Earth-2, New Earth...
Here's a few excerpts to whet your appetite and tide you over till you can hear the whole thing. It's the best podcast I've heard from that site.

I've included the time stamps where these excerpts occur in the program...


20:24
Krypton Fan: Where did all this start [news about TW being in JLA]

Robert Sanchez: Look, let me very clear about something. This is not my first choice. I don't want people to think we're make this [up]. There's a couple of sites out there right now that are claiming we're doing this just to build up traffic. That's not the way I work. We report it as we hear it. I actually heard this Tom Welling rumor ... for the last month. Is it Welling? As of right now, all my sources are telling me Welling is in.

I understand that Al Gough went on and said "that's not true, that's impossible." But listen, he's saying that it can't be because TW is committed through season 8 on SV, but didn't he do the CBTD films? Didn't he do the Fog film? Don't tell me he can't do another film. He can do another film if he wants to. Is he part of it? Again, my sources are telling me, yes.

22:47
Robert Sanchez: My sources have been dead on and I have to give them that much credibility. They've never been wrong to me. They're telling me Welling's it. I'm going to try to find out more information this week, but all indications are yes, Welling will be Superman in the Justice League.

32:42
Robert Sanchez: From what I'm hearing, MOS will continue on, just like Nolan's Batman are going to continue on. Can I say that 100% right now? No. I am more doubtful about that then I am about Justice League starting January 2008. The only reason I'm saying that is, what happens when people are introduced to a new Superman, which again, we believe is going to be Tom Welling? I think a good argument could be made that you'd want to introduce a new Superman stand-alone film with TW. At the same time, maybe they'll do this in the X-Men style and they'll just do three or four stand-alone Justice League films and not spin-off films.

Krypton Fan: In your opinion, for DC, which would be more productive - to continue doing stand-alone films or just branch and do Justice League?

Robert Sanchez: Look man, you do a good Justice League movie, it's gonna make $400M domestically. It'll do Transformers' numbers. If you do Justice League right, it'll do Transformers' numbers. It'll do 6, 7 hundred million worldwide with merchandising and toys and everything, it's a billion dollar franchise...

I can't listen to the podcast at work either, but from what Pat's transcribed... :wow: I was starting to lose faith in Sanchez after reading the latest fanfic... er... I mean "rumors" posted on IESB.

[triplet]

How about if they back Clooney or Kilmer? heh wouldn't mind Kilmer I liked his version of BATMAN.

You know who would be cool? The guy who played Batman in the commercials that were on air prior to BATMAN BEGINS was given the role... He was BADASS as BATMAN!

I don't know who you're referring to about the guy in the commercials, but Clooney and Kilmer are now too old for a younger version of Bats who is just beginning his crime-fighting career....

Kilmer is 47
Clooney just turned 46
Michael Keaton is 56

In comparison:

Bale is 33
Tom is 30
Jake Gylenhaal is 26

[COMPO]

Nipples on the wonder woman costume on the other hand..... :O

I'd like tassles.

[TWistim]

Do bears poop in the woods? The whole thing sounds just too good to be true, which does worry me a little. I hope they can pull this sucker off and get a cast that will knock people's socks off.

I wonder if the lack of a producer on the film has anything to do with the desire to go with Welling? You know, film production by committee? If JLA is greenlit, I'll be interested to hear what Miller's input was on the whole casting thing since a lot of the other names seem to be Warner choices, not necessarily the director's? That said, the rumor is a casting director will be hired/announced soon, so I guess we'll see. So, sooooo many questions.

Pat, I'm still interested in the post you were working on yesterday to post in the JLA thread. From your description it didn't sound controversial so I've been hoping you would post it today. I really enjoy your posts and respect your POV. Can you share it here?

[COMPO]

I'm still yet to watch that movie without falling asleep. :O



Have you seen him lately? He would need to do some serious work outs to get into shape for Batman.

WHAT? You fell asleep during Batman. It was brilliant, the only critism i'd give it was that Batman didn't have a theme tune. A difinative music that when you hear it you know its him. Although, i liked the anamilistic thing they went with.

[AgentPat]

Pat, I'm still interested in the post you were working on yesterday to post in the JLA thread. From your description it didn't sound controversial so I've been hoping you would post it today. I really enjoy your posts and respect your POV. Can you share it here?I wish. The thing went *poof* into nonexistence when I tried to post it. The thread said "closed," and when I backed up, the post was gone. And of course I hadn't copied it to the clipboard. :(

It wasn't anything huge - just some personal analysis (my opinion) on the big picture - marketing, studio interest, business perspective - but honestly, I think Sanchez did a much better job in the latest podcast interview. So me saying anything now would just be a regurgitation at best. :)

[TWistim]

I wish. The thing went *poof* into nonexistence when I tried to post it. The thread said "closed," and when I backed up, the post was gone. And of course I hadn't copied it to the clipboard. :(

It wasn't anything huge - just some personal analysis (my opinion) on the big picture - marketing, studio interest, business perspective - but honestly, I think Sanchez did a much better job in the latest podcast interview. So me saying anything now would just be a regurgitation at best. :)


Oh, okay. Sorry that happened. And thanks for the plee you made to keep our discussion alive over here! :heart:

[AgentPat]

Oh, okay. Sorry that happened. And thanks for the plee you made to keep our discussion alive over here! :heart:No prob. I think it's only fair we be able to discuss TW/Superman-related things here. :)

[Justice Bringer]

Um, I'm a Smallville fan, and I ain't confused. In fact, I hate that aspect of WB's thinking. It's not impossible to have various incarnations of the same character floating around. There already are MULTIPLE versions of Superman today. To wit: Smallville, Superman Returns, the Christopher Reeve Superman films, Superman on Legion, Superman on The Batman, Superman in JLU, Dean Cain's Superman, Max Fleischer's Superman... All of these Supermans(men?) exist. And no one's confused. If you want confusing, let's discuss the "multiverse" and all the varying Supermans in the comics where you have Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, Kingdom Come, Earth-1, Earth-2, New Earth...

Absolutely, I agree but having the same actor portray two different versions in different universes is convoluted. Different versions can exist but it gets messy when the actor known for one universe is also playing an alternate version of the same character in another.

If they go with Welling for Superman; they should just tie it with Smallville and keep it consistent. Its so much cleaner that way than the crisis on multiple mediums.

[avidreader]

I wish. The thing went *poof* into nonexistence when I tried to post it. The thread said "closed," and when I backed up, the post was gone. And of course I hadn't copied it to the clipboard. :(

It wasn't anything huge - just some personal analysis (my opinion) on the big picture - marketing, studio interest, business perspective - but honestly, I think Sanchez did a much better job in the latest podcast interview. So me saying anything now would just be a regurgitation at best. :)

On other sites, if you press the back button, what you've written in your post is still there, but not the here. :csad: I wonder why they cant fix that, if other sites can do it.

Okay, that's creepy. When I hit submit just then, I got the page expired warning. Luckily I had copied what I typed before I hit submit.

[Justice Bringer]

Michael Keaton is 56


Perhaps since Batman is the 'anchor' and the leader/mentor in the script; they should instead go for an older Batman (to diffrenciate it from Christian's year one Batman).

Michael Keaton may be able to play a cool version of older Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns Batman;

And he would have Batman (1989) and Batman Returns as an existing established backstory to the character; as opposed to bringing in someone new.

[AgentPat]

On other sites, if you press the back button, what you've written in your post is still there, but not the here. :csad: I wonder why they cant fix that, if other sites can do it.

Okay, that's creepy. When I hit submit just then, I got the page expired warning. Luckily I had copied what I typed before I hit submit.Usually I do. It's happened to me before, so you'd think I'd learn. But hey, it's not that big of a deal. At least we're allowed to discuss Welling here, and that's all I cared about.

...which I guess needs to be reiterated.

To all users, please take discussion of other JLA characters or actors to the APPROPRIATE forum. Thank you for your cooperation.

Where's Robo when you need him?

[triplet]

Perhaps since Batman is the 'anchor' and the leader/mentor in the script; they should instead go for an older Batman (to diffrenciate it from Christian's year one Batman).

Michael Keaton may be able to play a cool version of older Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns Batman;

And he would have Batman (1989) and Batman Returns as an existing established backstory to the character; as opposed to bringing in someone new.

I don't know if that would work, and I don't know if I want to see him again as Batman.

I didn't like his batman much.

I like Kilmer's and Clooney's much better.

[Serene]

Has Gyllenhaal actually been mentioned anywhere?

[AgentPat]

:cmad:


*sigh* :(

[Serene]

Chuck from Kryptonfan speaks to Sanchez and Younis about what went down last Friday

http://www.pluggd.com/audio/channels/krypton_fan/episodes/2zjth

:cmad:


*sigh* :(

:confused: Am I missing something?

[Justice Bringer]

I don't know if that would work, and I don't know if I want to see him again as Batman.

I didn't like his batman much.

I like Kilmer's and Clooney's much better.

To each his own.

I liked the quirky charm and wit Keaton put into the character. I could see Welling's Clark having the same kinda conflicts with him as he did with Oliver Queen. I think its a good compliment and contrast.

This was my favorite Kilmer scene but it was cut from the film;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtouiimSMe0

[AgentPat]

:confused: Am I missing something?This thread was closed due to fighting:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=282799

A plea was made:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12617801&postcount=9122

The plea was approved:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12621861&postcount=9125

This was my attempt to avoid potential problems from occurring in the future:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12622069&postcount=1768

I don't want to see this thread get closed. There is a forum at the Hype (DC Comics Films (http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39)) where all JLA discussion is (for now) supposed to take place. We were told to take it there. But we asked nicely if we could at least keep Welling's discussion here - because nobody here wanted to go *there* to discuss something we feel nobody there would give two hoots about.

I'm just trying to keep the peace, keep the trolls away *cough*, and keep things on-topic here. I'm not trying to be a PITA. Please understand. :(

[triplet]

This thread was closed due to fighting:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=282799

A plea was made:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12617801&postcount=9122

The plea was approved:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12621861&postcount=9125

This was my attempt to avoid potential problems from occurring in the future:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12622069&postcount=1768

I don't want to see this thread get closed. There is a forum at the Hype (DC Comics Films (http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39)) where all JLA discussion is (for now) supposed to take place. We were told to take it there. But we asked nicely if we could at least keep Welling's discussion here - because nobody here wanted to go *there* to discuss something we feel nobody there would give two hoots about.

I'm just trying to keep the peace, keep the trolls away *cough*, and keep things on-topic here. I'm not trying to be a PITA. Please understand. :(

Okay, I'll refrain from making any more batty comments...

:ninja:

;)

[AgentPat]

Okay, I'll refrain from making any more batty comments...

:ninja:

;)http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bliss.jpg

It's the best way to keep things peaceful here. We can all go to the DC forum to discuss other candidates for the other characters in the pic. :)

[Serene]

I'm just trying to keep the peace, keep the trolls away *cough*, and keep things on-topic here. I'm not trying to be a PITA. Please understand. :(

The TROLLS, or rather, the TROLL, has never left. Apparently the precious RULES don't apply to him. So you'll have to pardon my lack of serious concern for the supposed RULES around here lately.

Oh, and this podcast is killing me. I can't listen to one more word from this hypocrite. And you can probably easily guess which one I think is the hypocrite.

[Brainiac 8]

The TROLLS, or rather, the TROLL, has never left. Apparently the precious RULES don't apply to him. So you'll have to pardon my lack of serious concern for the supposed RULES around here lately.

Oh, and this podcast is killing me. I can't listen to one more word from this hypocrite. And you can probably easily guess which one I think is the hypocrite.

We still love you.:woot:

[AgentPat]

The TROLLS, or rather, the TROLL, has never left. Apparently the precious RULES don't apply to him. So you'll have to pardon my lack of serious concern for the supposed RULES around here lately.I understand. *hugs*

Oh, and this podcast is killing me. I can't listen to one more word from this hypocrite. And you can probably easily guess which one I think is the hypocrite.Which one? Sanchez? :huh:

The interviewer guy reminds me of Slim Pickens LOL.

[triplet]

Hey, I'm not sure where to put this so I'll put it here:

http://www.cwtv.com/thecw/widgets


There's a widget for your web pages and you can download a new wallpaper based on that poster.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/674/smallville1280x1024fu5.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallville1280x1024fu5.jpg)

The bastards need to release new images of Tom.

[Brainiac 8]

Great wallpaper that is. :up:

[triplet]

If it's any consolation, I don't think Supermatural's new WP is using a new image either.

Bastards.

[The Caped Knight]

It wasn't good.

It was great. :up:

It wasn't Great

It's was Freaking Badass Awesome !!!!! :batty:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

If it's any consolation, I don't think Supermatural's new WP is using a new image either

They are lazy asses this year. Did all of this years budget go to Dean & Helen :wow:

[bootspark]

JackMercy

Is the SUPEREME pizza on its way?
Or should we order something else?

[The Caped Knight]

Hey, I'm not sure where to put this so I'll put it here:

http://www.cwtv.com/thecw/widgets


There's a widget for your web pages and you can download a new wallpaper based on that poster.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/674/smallville1280x1024fu5.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallville1280x1024fu5.jpg)

The bastards need to release new images of Tom.

Nice . (Thank God it's the first poster and not the BS re-done poster, The Damn cheap ass Bastards just re-released .)

ROFL @ The Bastard (Comment towards The CW .) Trip (Good Call sis.) :woot:

It's pretty sad that NBC does a better job in promoting both The New upcoming season of "Heroes" (Season 2) & The Premiere of The Bionic Woman.

And After Seven freaking years (The WB/The CW) still can't get it right with their number 1 hit tv series promoting SMALLVILLE .

Their are already two Trailer for "Heroes" out, and smallville still has jack nothing .

TPTB in charge of Marketing dep. @ The CW should get all their ass fired , and replaced by Pro.'s who can do the job right .

[Zorex]

The bastards need to release new images of Tom.
I think the bastards need to start releasing promo materials for the season, period. This poster ain't cutting it.

[triplet]

Nice . (Thank God it's the first poster and not the BS re-done poster, The Damn cheap ass Bastards just re-released .)

ROFL @ The Bastard (Comment towards The CW .) Trip (Good Call sis.) :woot:

It's pretty sad that NBC does a better job in promoting both The New upcoming season of "Heroes" (Season 2) & The Premiere of The Bionic Woman.

And After Seven freaking years (The WB/The CW) still can't get it right with their number 1 hit tv series promoting SMALLVILLE .

Their are already two Trailer for "Heroes" out, and smallville still has jack nothing .

TPTB in charge of Marketing dep. @ The CW should get all their ass fired , and replaced by Pro.'s who can do the job right .

In general, CW does a piss poor job of getting content on their web site.

The WB at least had some wallpapers and AIM icons and stuff like that.

They even had those stupid life size posters of all the actors, I wish I'd saved the Tom ones.

Damn them all to hell.

[The Caped Knight]

In general, CW does a piss poor job of getting content on their web site.

The WB at least had some wallpapers and AIM icons and stuff like that.

They even had those stupid life size posters of all the actors, I wish I'd saved the Tom ones.

Damn them all to hell.

Since we are Friends (Despite are different opinions on many things .) I'm going to assume you haven't seen these pictures yet. If have Well... you get the idea

http://smallville.fan-sites.org/gallery/index.php?cat=2

http://galerie.smallville-town.com/index.php?cat=20

These two places are were I get most of my
smallville/Welling,Durance,Rosenbaum images

Maybe you might find what you seek .

enjoy

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Perhaps since Batman is the 'anchor' and the leader/mentor in the script; they should instead go for an older Batman (to diffrenciate it from Christian's year one Batman).

Michael Keaton may be able to play a cool version of older Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns Batman;

And he would have Batman (1989) and Batman Returns as an existing established backstory to the character; as opposed to bringing in someone new.

That's what I've been saying all along. Plus his Batman - unlike Bale's which is too grounded on reality - I see working with JLA and Superman.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

To each his own.

I liked the quirky charm and wit Keaton put into the character. I could see Welling's Clark having the same kinda conflicts with him as he did with Oliver Queen. I think its a good compliment and contrast.



Obviously I agree.
Trip you know I love ya but I don't how you can like Clooney's Batman ("Hello Freeze I'm Batman..." and not like Keaton's who defined the character for a whole new generation of fans and actor's.
Kilmer was good (his Bruce Wayne was great actually) but his Batman was copied from Keaton. He tried to copy the way he talked, looked and his body language. He did a good job at it but he could never duplicate the Keaton magic.
Bale is a very good Batman Year One but not so great as the established Batman. Plus his voice (again trying to duplicate the Keaton voice) sounds too forced. His Bruce Wayne on the other hand may be the best one ever...
Keaton plays the mythic Batman, the urban legend, the established Batman and there's something about his Bat that I can see him mentoring a young JLA. Plus the script as far as I heard requires an OLDER Batman not a young one.

[The Caped Knight]

BW29 IMO Keaton Sucked as Batman (He just didn't wow me at all, he looked & acted like he didn't even enjoy the role or the suit .)

He captured Billionare Bruce Wayne right, But sucked as Bats

Same with Dean Cain He's still byfar The Best live Action version of Mild
Mannered Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet (He was Spectacular in that role) But he sucked Big time as Superman .


I've yet to see Welling as either Mild Mannered ( fully Business Suit) Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet or as Superman/Kal-EL (in the tights.) so I still can't count him as Superman .

To me he's still just Farmboy clark kent from smallville / Young Kal-EL .

[sunflowercyn]

Wow I thought I'd gone to the wrong thread for a minute....I thought this was the Tom Welling/Superman thread...

Kal-el 8...you are right...Tom Welling is playing Clark Kent from Smallville BEFORE he is Superman and has to have a dual identity of the mild mannered reporter. SV has never pretended to be the story of Superman...its before all of that.

[Syncos]

BW29 IMO Keaton Sucked as Batman (He just didn't wow me at all, he looked & acted like he didn't even enjoy the role or the suit .)

He captured Billionare Bruce Wayne right, But sucked as Bats

Same with Dean Cain He's still byfar The Best live Action version of Mild
Mannered Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet (He was Spectacular in that role) But he sucked Big time as Superman .


I've yet to see Welling as either Mild Mannered ( fully Business Suit) Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet or as Superman/Kal-EL (in the tights.) so I still can't count him as Superman .

To me he's still just Farmboy clark kent from smallville / Young Kal-EL .

I'd actually say he's both. I've seen Welling's Clark show traits of both persona's. It's just that he's not at a point yet where he has to split between the two.

[RKromwell]

Another site has come out and said no Superman for Tom.

http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=190&itemid=11730

[KalKai]

Another site has come out and said no Superman for Tom.

http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=190&itemid=11730

Now Rob will just answer again saying that his sources are still saying that yes, Welling is in.

In this case there is nothing 1 can really do except wait for further confirmations, else we'll just keep going back and forth with this.

[Ita-KalEl]

I wonder what would happen, if Tom denied to be involved in the JL project.
Would Sanchez write that his source is more reliable and Tom is a sort of liar?

[avidreader]

Wow I thought I'd gone to the wrong thread for a minute....I thought this was the Tom Welling/Superman thread...

Kal-el 8...you are right...Tom Welling is playing Clark Kent from Smallville BEFORE he is Superman and has to have a dual identity of the mild mannered reporter. SV has never pretended to be the story of Superman...its before all of that.

I love ya Sunflower. :heart:

And thanks for being our Vancouver Tour Guide. I appreciated your comments that you left in one of the other threads. Its always great to hear those little things about the city and its people that only a native would know. :yay:

[The Caped Knight]

I'd actually say he's both. I've seen Welling's Clark show traits of both persona's. It's just that he's not at a point yet where he has to split between the two.


When he does that only then will I have a clear picture of him . Till then I still only see him as just the Teenager version (The Jeff East/Clark Kent version before arriving @ The FOS fully ready to accept his Destiny .)

[The Incredible Hulk]

Now Rob will just answer again saying that his sources are still saying that yes, Welling is in.

In this case there is nothing 1 can really do except wait for further confirmations, else we'll just keep going back and forth with this.

This is just as stupid as running to Gough to ask him at this point.

I'll reiterate this again, for people like Steve Younis, who dont seem to get it:

NO ONE close to this situation is going to go on the record about what's going on with this film at this point in the game especially with Miller not having been announced to direct.

Tom's publicist of all people isn't going to talk about it to 'Entertainment News Int'l" or whatever the hell it's called at the risk of harming his client. The guy's a publicist, its his job top keep things under wraps when need be, and promote things at other times.

Could Tom not been involved at all and IESB be completley full of ****? Sure they could. But does an on the record denial from a publicist prior to a directorial announcement hold much weight? No, not at all.

If you want to see a good example of how this works. Go out to IESB and look at when they called who the GI Joe director and writer were going to be. Then look at the news that came out 3-4 days later where people were on record denying it. Then look at who took the jobs to write and direct about a week after that. It's all part of the game.

[musclesforsupes]

Good Morning,


Did you guys see this news :( I hope its not true and that they just dont want to say anything right now about Tom and the JLA movie until the contract is done.


Originally Posted by Ita-KalEl http://forums.superherohype.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=12631921#post12631921)
We have anothe official confirmation that "Welling will not be Superman" from Tom's publicist.

http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=190&itemid=11730

So by now we have the word of Gough and Tom's publicist Vs the word of a so called "source" of a website...

[Justice Bringer]

You know, I'd actually be a little disappointed if he got shafted from this.

He was the one decent thing I was looking forward to in this disaster of a project; though watching the riot against IESB if they are wrong will probably make up for it =)

[GreenKToo]

Its still too soon to be bring out the pitchforks and torches against IESB.
He said we'll hear something next week, so lets give him to then at least.

[AgentPat]

Now Rob will just answer again saying that his sources are still saying that yes, Welling is in...LOL Probably.

This is all pretty damn funny, especially since Miller hasn't been announced yet, and nobody is calling Miller's publicist to confirm or deny the rumors about HIM! :rolleyes:

Keep in mind this part from Sanchez's Wednesday podcast with Krypton Fan:


21:38
Robert Sanchez: How many times have studio sources straight out lied to people like me? I was looking at the stories here earlier today. We reported that Scott Derrickson was going to be directing "The Day the Earth Stood Still." We called Fox. Fox told us nope, not true. Couple weeks later, it's reported Scott Derrickson is directing "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

We called CAA (Tom Welling's reps). We were asking them specifically two questions because they also rep Stuart Beattie and we were hearing that Stuart Beattie was going to be writing the new GI Joe draft. They told me NO! Stuart Beattie is not writing GI Joe, and they haven't heard anything about Tom Welling and no comment on that. A day later, I get an e-mail from Stuart Beattie telling me hey yeah, you're right, I'm doing GI Joe. So you can't always believe what you hear.

My sources have been dead on and I have to give them that much credibility. They've never been wrong to me. They're telling me Welling's it. I want to try to find out more information this week, but all indications are yes, Welling will be Superman in Justice League...


Relax folks. As I said last night, this could all still fall apart like a deck of cards, but "official denial" by an actor's publicist before there's an "official announcement of the film" by the studio itself doth not for reliable make. ;)

Wait till *after* Miller is announced for anything "official" on the casting. Till then, it's all just rumors.

[musclesforsupes]

I wonder if IESB and Sanchez will say something today about the new rumor.

[RakuMon]

Keep in mind this part from Sanchez's Wednesday podcast with Krypton Fan:


21:38
Robert Sanchez: How many times have studio sources straight out lied to people like me? I was looking at the stories here earlier today. We reported that Scott Derrickson was going to be directing "The Day the Earth Stood Still." We called Fox. Fox told us nope, not true. Couple weeks later, it's reported Scott Derrickson is directing "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

We called CAA (Tom Welling's reps). We were asking them specifically two questions because they also rep Stuart Beattie and we were hearing that Stuart Beattie was going to be writing the new GI Joe draft. They told me NO! Stuart Beattie is not writing GI Joe, and they haven't heard anything about Tom Welling and no comment on that. A day later, I get an e-mail from Stuart Beattie telling me hey yeah, you're right, I'm doing GI Joe. So you can't always believe what you hear.

My sources have been dead on and I have to give them that much credibility. They've never been wrong to me. They're telling me Welling's it. I want to try to find out more information this week, but all indications are yes, Welling will be Superman in Justice League...


Relax folks. As I said last night, this could all still fall apart like a deck of cards, but "official denial" by an actor's publicist before there's an "official announcement of the film" by the studio itself doth not for reliable make. ;)

Wait till *after* Miller is announced for anything "official" on the casting. Till then, it's all just rumors.

Heh... that bit about Stuart Beattie on G.I. Joe? Guess what was in Variety this morning....

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117971136.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Stuart Beattie to report for 'G.I.' duty'
Collateral' scribe to write 'Joe' for Paramount
By TATIANA SIEGEL
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Stuart Beattie
Beattie
Paramount Pictures has tapped scribe Stuart Beattie to bring Hasbro's toy soldier G.I. Joe to the bigscreen.

Studio has fast-tracked the Stephen Sommers-helmed "G.I. Joe" in the wake of the success of Paramount/DreamWorks' "Transformers," which is also based on a Hasbro toy line.

Paul Lovett & David Elliot and Skip Woods are among the writers who penned earlier drafts of the long-gestating project.

Pre-production is expected to begin in the fall, with the studio eyeing a February production start and a summer 2009 bow.

Lorenzo di Bonaventura ("Transformers") will produce alongside Hasbro's Brian Goldner. Sommers and partner Bob Ducsay are also aboard in a producing capacity.

Story is set at Brussels-based G.I.J.O.E., an acronym for the Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity, and revolves around an international co-ed force of operatives who use high-tech equipment to battle Cobra, an evil org headed by a double-crossing Scottish arms dealer.

Beattie's credits include "Collateral" and the "Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise.

[AgentPat]

^ Bingo! IESB reported that news last Thursday:
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3130&Itemid=99


Sit tight folks. These are fun times. :word:

[triplet]

Since we are Friends (Despite are different opinions on many things .) I'm going to assume you haven't seen these pictures yet. If have Well... you get the idea

http://smallville.fan-sites.org/gallery/index.php?cat=2

http://galerie.smallville-town.com/index.php?cat=20

These two places are were I get most of my
smallville/Welling,Durance,Rosenbaum images

Maybe you might find what you seek .

enjoy

Thanks, Kal.

Nothing new yet anywhere, except for that Celebrity Photo blog and those weren't official.

[COMPO]

BW29 IMO Keaton Sucked as Batman (He just didn't wow me at all, he looked & acted like he didn't even enjoy the role or the suit .)

He captured Billionare Bruce Wayne right, But sucked as Bats

Same with Dean Cain He's still byfar The Best live Action version of Mild
Mannered Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet (He was Spectacular in that role) But he sucked Big time as Superman .


I've yet to see Welling as either Mild Mannered ( fully Business Suit) Reporter Clark Kent of The Daily Planet or as Superman/Kal-EL (in the tights.) so I still can't count him as Superman .

To me he's still just Farmboy clark kent from smallville / Young Kal-EL .

Yeah, i never liked Cain's Superman. I liked his clark though. Although, i liked Keaton. I liked the way he moved it was sort of demonic.

[avidreader]

I didnt know Steve Younis was an Aussie. I might have to like him, just a little bit. :cwink:

[Bruce_Wayne29]

BW29 IMO Keaton Sucked as Batman (He just didn't wow me at all, he looked & acted like he didn't even enjoy the role or the suit .)

He captured Billionare Bruce Wayne right, But sucked as Bats



Sorry, I know this is your opinion but this is ridiculous. First off he loves the character and still does to this day and mentions it everytime he does an interview and says how grateful he is to Batman and the good things the character gave him. He even refused 35 millions because he didn't like how the direction of the 2 following movies would make the character look like. And if I would be inclined to do that kind of work I would search for you an interview he gave just about his Bat-movies and about the character that would shut up most fan boys...
As far as not liking the suit, that's probably too. Would you feel confortable with a suit that wasn't confortable and in which you could barely move ?
Did you know that because of that suit Keaton had a hip injury and to this day can't move that hip well ?
I'm sure if he had a suit like Bale's which reportedly is more confortable he would enjoy the suit more. But be clear about something. He loves Batman.
He played the mythic established version of the character. He Based it on DKR, a book that he loves.
He captured the true essence of Batman and he certainly didn't need to scream his lungs out to get his point across.
But hey your entitled to your opinion.

[RakuMon]

Don't know if any of you are familiar with the blog "What Would Tyler Durden Do." It's one of those snarky celebrity/gossip blogs (think: Perez Hilton or Defamer). Anyway, they're definitely an example of "the general public" and not a fanboy-wanking website.

Anyway, WWTDD has a post about the JLA rumors. Most of it is about that stupid Gyllenahaal siblings as the Wonder Twins rumor. But there was this interesting nugget buried underneath the snark:

Several sources today, including MovieWeb and IESB, say that Jake Gyllenhaal and his offensively ugly sister have been approached about playing the Wonder Twins in the upcoming "Justice League of America" Movie. Tom Welling is also rumored to be playing Superman, which actually sounds cool, but I'm sure the producers will screw that up, because, to recap, their movie includes retarded twins and a blue monkey with a bucket.

More in the link: http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2828

[Serene]

I didnt know Steve Younis was an Aussie. I might have to like him, just a little bit. :cwink:


NOOOOooooooooo!


;)

[bootspark]

from infamous_emijayne at the countingdown.com Justice League boards...

"Friday , August 31, 2007 03:41:44 AM"

"On Weds Aug 8th at 4:33am EST, I posted that Welling was in talks because my longtime and usual source woke me up by phone to tell me she heard directly from WB execs at a dinner party that Welling was in talks. When did IESB get their info?? About 2 weeks later.

I have more than just one source and ALL of them connected to WB have assured me he's so close to signing the pen is in his hand. A lawsuit because of his Smallville contract is the only thing that could keep him out of JLA and they don't see it happening since the show is ending.

I'd love to say more but again too much info could reveal my source. "

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3988163&folder=0

Could Gough be implying a lawsuit with his "never going to happen" comment?
She also says that if Welling signs, then Season 7 will be his last. He would end the series in the suit in the final episode, then be Superman in JLA.

[Super_Ludacris]

Don't know if any of you are familiar with the blog "What Would Tyler Durden Do." It's one of those snarky celebrity/gossip blogs (think: Perez Hilton or Defamer). Anyway, they're definitely an example of "the general public" and not a fanboy-wanking website.

Anyway, WWTDD has a post about the JLA rumors. Most of it is about that stupid Gyllenahaal siblings as the Wonder Twins rumor. But there was this interesting nugget buried underneath the snark:



More in the link: http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2828


Those sites are so phucking corny. But they aint got nothing on CHUD.com and its boards.

[Ita-KalEl]

from infamous_emijayne at the countingdown.com Justice League boards...

"Friday , August 31, 2007 03:41:44 AM"

"On Weds Aug 8th at 4:33am EST, I posted that Welling was in talks because my longtime and usual source woke me up by phone to tell me she heard directly from WB execs at a dinner party that Welling was in talks. When did IESB get their info?? About 2 weeks later.

I have more than just one source and ALL of them connected to WB have assured me he's so close to signing the pen is in his hand. A lawsuit because of his Smallville contract is the only thing that could keep him out of JLA and they don't see it happening since the show is ending.

I'd love to say more but again too much info could reveal my source. "

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3988163&folder=0

Could Gough be implying a lawsuit with his "never going to happen" comment?
She also says that if Welling signs, then Season 7 will be his last. He would end the series in the suit in the final episode, then be Superman in JLA.



It would be great, if true. But if true why a JLA movie? At this point a Superman movie would be the better choice.

[AgentPat]

I *just* came from reading that thread over at CD. The scooper started the "rumors" on 8/8/07...
http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3983963


"Look! An undead rumor. Top that."
- Capt. Jack


;)

[triplet]

It would be great, if true. But if true why a JLA movie? At this point a Superman movie would be the better choice.

Oh, don't sell the JLA movie short. The JLA idea is fantastic.

It's based on the OMAC storyline from the comics, which I just loved....

Evil killer robots and an apparently crazy supes? I can't wait.

We know Tom can play crazy so well (see Labyrinth and Splinter for that).

He should be awesome as the mind-controlled/apparently crazy superman.

I hope it's all true.

:up: :heart:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Would the show creators want to piss Welling off ? If they dont let him do this movie & force him to do Smallville. As Ethan Hunt once said

"You have never seen me very upset"

How ticked would Welling be if they stop him from doing this movie ?

[Ita-KalEl]

I would prefer a Superman movie because I want to see Clark and Superman, Lois, Lex and the famous "rip-shirt" scene with the big "S". In the JLA comics Superman is always Superman.

[AgentPat]

I hope it's all true.After reading those two threads, I'm back to catching flies (eg: mouth WIDE open in astonishment.) :eek: :D :up:

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/bunny.jpg

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Gough & Miles if they know whats good for them are better off letting Welling do this movie if he wants it. The fan back slash alone if the fans found out they wont let Welling be Superman ON THE BIG SCREEN will ensure that Smallville ends this season. There will be no stopping the back slash from that.

[triplet]

I would prefer a Superman movie because I want to see Clark and Superman, Lois, Lex and the famous "rip-shirt" scene with the big "S". In the JLA comics Superman is always Superman.

I still think it's a great idea, I don't need a shirt rip scene.

Seeing Tom in the tights, him getting very well deserved validation from the studio he's made a ton of money for, would be all I need.

I would love a shirt rip, it would be icing, but could I live without it?

Sure can.

:up:

[Serene]

I *just* came from reading that thread over at CD. The scooper started the "rumors" on 8/8/07...
http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3983963


"Look! An undead rumor. Top that."
- Capt. Jack


;)

:eek:

I like that site. :D

[triplet]

:eek:

I like that site. :D

Quoted for truth!

:D :up:

[AgentPat]

:eek:

I like that site. :DYou noticed that too, huh? :word:

Quoted for truth!Ditto.

;) :D :p

[AgentPat]

1 bottle of Veuve Cliquot Gold Reserve (Regular price: $69.99, Sale price: $65.99)

That's the current bet on Counting Down that Welling will be Superman in JLA.

So we have one person betting his reputation on inside information (Sanchez), and another person betting cold hard cash in the form of a pretty expensive bottle of wine that Welling is happening.

Kinda makes the Welling rumor wars of '04 look like an old lady's tea party, huh?

Look out for speeding busses people. Somebody somewhere is gonna eat the biggest plate of crow ever.

[Serene]

Since no one else has done it yet... here's the recent picture of Tom as posted by clarksgirl93 on K-site:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5189/n5399501483181012807lt8.jpg

Interesting new hairstyle he's sporting. :supes:

(omg, the thigh is killing me... ) *thud*

[KBX]

Look out for speeding busses people. Somebody somewhere is gonna eat the biggest plate of crow ever.

We know who will eat the crow if this movie doesn't get made(Sanchez), but who eats it if it does get made?

And if Welling is NOT in JLA, but JLA comes out in 2009, than Sanchez in my eyes is still right....

[The Incredible Hulk]

Could Gough be implying a lawsuit with his "never going to happen" comment?


*puts on lawyer hat*

I'm not sure when they say "Gough could sue" if they mean Tollin/Robbins could sue (the production company) or WB Television could sue? Both of them would be an extremely rare circumstance for them to sue the parent (Warner Bros) over this type of thing. These kinds of squabbles (assuming their even is one) tend to get kept in the family and get settled in house in dollars and cents.

From Gough's standpoint I could see him wanting assurances that he has Tom for a full 7th season and gets to put a proper bow on his show. He might also get some type of agreement for another pilot out of this and perhaps some kind of "finder's fee" for doing their Superman casting for them in essence. Outside of that, I dont think he could really demand compensation for an 8th season because in the end that's always the Network's decision and they could come up with a myriad of reasons why they wouldnt have done an 8th season anyway.

*takes off lawyer hat*

*puts on hat with beer cans and straws on it*

WOOOO!!!!!! :wow:

She also says that if Welling signs, then Season 7 will be his last. He would end the series in the suit in the final episode, then be Superman in JLA

where do I sign for that?

[The Incredible Hulk]

Since no one else has done it yet... here's the recent picture of Tom as posted by clarksgirl93 on K-site:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5189/n5399501483181012807lt8.jpg

Interesting new hairstyle he's sporting. :supes:

(omg, the thigh is killing me... ) *thud*

ah yes this is from the season's 8th episode entitled "Bowlcut"

(the kid not Tom ;) )

[KalKai]

I'm not liking the hair, they butchered it again lol. Hopefully it'll look better on the show.

[triplet]

1 bottle of Veuve Cliquot Gold Reserve (Regular price: $69.99, Sale price: $65.99)

That's the current bet on Counting Down that Welling will be Superman in JLA.

So we have one person betting his reputation on inside information (Sanchez), and another person betting cold hard cash in the form of a pretty expensive bottle of wine that Welling is happening.

Kinda makes the Welling rumor wars of '04 look like an old lady's tea party, huh?

Look out for speeding busses people. Somebody somewhere is gonna eat the biggest plate of crow ever.

LOL!

I just read that... too funny.

I hope the two of them keep that bet.

:D :up:

http://www.aperitif.no/images/97454/Veuve-Clicquot-RV-200b2.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

[The Caped Knight]

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5189/n5399501483181012807lt8.jpg

Interesting new hairstyle he's sporting. :supes:




OMG I beginning to see (OMG...CAN IT FINALLY BE TRUE ?) .... The famous trademark S curl beginning to form in the front ? :wow:

[Serene]

I'm not liking the hair, they butchered it again lol. Hopefully it'll look better on the show.

The more I look at it, the more I like it.

Or maybe it's just that thigh influencing my opinion. :D

[AgentPat]

We know who will eat the crow if this movie doesn't get made(Sanchez), but who eats it if it does get made?You mean with Welling? Pfft! Well THAT's easy:

Every. Single. Person. Ever. to have said and I quote, "Welling will never be Superman."

If this happens, and I repeat IF, they'll be rewriting the dictionary's definition for "relentless" and inserting my picture, because I've been saying "never say never" for years.

*puts on hat with beer cans and straws on it*

WOOOO!!!!!! :wow:*joins Hulk and smiles*

:)

[SsM]

no 8th season of smallville??

[AgentPat]

no 8th season of smallville??With all things being equal, an eighth season of SV is in the hands of CW. The producers of the show have said repeatedly they'd like to go eight if they can. Going eight seasons is dependent on many things, not the least of which being ratings. There may be other extenuating circumstances however, which hopefully should be sorted out soon.

[SsM]

I see.. well Heres to hoping. This past season has by far been my favorite.. even with the loss of john schneider(sp)

[Zorex]

Based only on that one picture, I kinda like the new hair. I hope I like it even more on the show.

[avidreader]

Since no one else has done it yet... here's the recent picture of Tom as posted by clarksgirl93 on K-site:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5189/n5399501483181012807lt8.jpg



I was too scared to after the tongue lashing that Triplet got for posting a link from that thread on TW.Org. :ninja:

Interesting new hairstyle he's sporting. :supes:

(omg, the thigh is killing me... ) *thud*

LOL! My eyes went straight to that as well. Then proceeded to travel up the body, slowly :cwink: , and makes it way to his hair. :woot:

The more I look at it, the more I like it.

Or maybe it's just that thigh influencing my opinion. :D

Got me again!

Based only on that one picture, I kinda like the new hair. I hope I like it even more on the show.

I new I always liked you. :yay:

[Serene]

I was too scared to after the tongue lashing that Triplet got for posting a link from that thread on TW.Org. :ninja:


Oops. I guess I missed that. Well, I did give the OP credit for it, which is more than a lot of sites are going to do. That picture will, I'm sure, be posted far and wide now that it's been publicly posted. Such is the magical internets.

[Zorex]

I new I always liked you. :yay:
Haha, glad to have verified :oldrazz:

[bootspark]

How can anyone say now by looking at that picture that Welling doesnt look like Superman. His arms and chest are HUGE! His eyes have the look of a caring soul. And did I mention the hair? Oh, I didnt? :)

Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you....SUPERMAN! :)

[AgentPat]

More from Sanchez:

I don't know what to think about Tom Welling's publicist. I know what I was told and I know what the JLA/WB brass want. I have not heard anything in a couple of days but I will get a hold of someone on Monday/Tuesday.

I think that I made a mistake in posting a couple of those emails. I thought that I was very clear that those were rumors that were sent in and we were just putting them up for a read, Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, Leo and others are all completely unconfirmed rumors and nothing that I was able to get anyone to comment on. I have been getting tons of others emails but I am worried that if we post them on the boards people are going to take it as gospel and not simply as unverified rumors.

Only when we post it as an "IESB Exclusive" is it coming from our own source as a confirmed or rumored announcement. Otherwise, it's all just fan-talk.Kinda sux that he's reluctant to post other non-confirmed info now after being intentionally burned, but whatever. I'll be interested to see what he can dig up next week.

[KalKai]

More from Sanchez:

Kinda sux that he's reluctant to post other non-confirmed info now after being intentionally burned, but whatever. I'll be interested to see what he can dig up next week.

Can you blame him? It's better this way, we don't need any more rumors from random people who send in their e-mails.

I'm just glad the WB/JLA brass know what they want, and WHO they want. ;)

[AgentPat]

Can you blame him? It's better this way, we don't need any more rumors from random people who send in their e-mails.

I'm just glad the WB/JLA brass know what they want, and WHO they want. ;)Agreed on all points.

Y'know, there was an insane amount of info posted by that user over at CD. It's all rumor of course, but I'm debating on doing some selective cut and paste..... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

[JP]

That does indeed suck.

[KalKai]

Agreed on all points.

Y'know, there was an insane amount of info posted by that user over at CD. It's all rumor of course, but I'm debating on doing some selective cut and paste..... http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/ponder.gif

Sure, why not, the user does indeed bring up some very good points, whoever it is it does strike me as someone in the know.

[COMPO]

Since no one else has done it yet... here's the recent picture of Tom as posted by clarksgirl93 on K-site:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5189/n5399501483181012807lt8.jpg

Interesting new hairstyle he's sporting. :supes:

(omg, the thigh is killing me... ) *thud*

I like his very Superman. Is that his kid with him?

[The Incredible Hulk]

LOL no, Welling doesnt have any kids

[The Incredible Hulk]

looks like some more rumors from Countingdown

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3988682&folder=0


Okay, this isn't completely surprising as there were rumblings on a few websites already, but nobody went in-depth on it. Regardless it is ONLY a rumor and NOT the actual plan WB set out with. It's not from my usual source but from someone who has been mostly reliable in the past. Anyway....

I woke to an email this morning that Miller does actually want to go completely with an older cast. Meaning no Reynolds and no Welling. Supposedly, part of this is due to JLA not being an origin film and part of it is so not to step on the toes of Nolan and Singer. WB is very high on Reynolds and Welling. WB execs have seen the reaction to the leaked announcements of both actors and are ALL smiles thinking they'll finally have a huge hit on their hands. However, with Miller not "officially" signed yet and having his own ideas for what would be successful, he could end up walking and this could turn out like X3 and be a totally rushed film just slapped together at the last minute.

I emailed my usual source and when she gets back to me with her take on this, I'll give an update. Until then....keep your fingers crossed and enjoy your holiday weekend!!

this seems a bit odd, only in that in her last posting the pen was in Welling's hand waiting to sign. That would of course mean they would have to have the director's buy in on the casting. You cant do an "end around" on the director of film like this.... Also didnt we hear somewhere else that Miller was the one who wanted Welling?

ugghh... I'm off to go imbibe mass quantities of grilled meat and alcohol for the weekend...... Have a Great Labor Day Weekend everyone..

[Serene]

looks like some more rumors from Countingdown

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3988682&folder=0


I woke to an email this morning that Miller does actually want to go completely with an older cast. Meaning no Reynolds and no Welling.



Well, damn.. how much freakin' "older" does he want this JLA to be? Tom's 30, and I have no idea how old Reynolds is, but he's not exactly a teenager, or even a young adult. I think they both fit well as late-20's/early 30's versions of their characters.

While a movie featuring a middle-aged JLA may give him more highbrow points, I think it will hurt them at the box-office with younger ticket buyers.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Reynolds will be 31 next month

[avidreader]

I thought this movie was about Batman mentoring a young JLA team. How do you do that if he wants an older cast?

And what happened to the Manips Thread?:huh:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

IGN posted a CASTING CALL FOR JUSTICE LEAGUE

Before there were X-Men, or the Fantastic Four, or Watchmen for that matter, there was the Justice League. Also known as the Justice League of America or the JLA (or, to the less knowledgeable out there, the Super Friends), this group of DC Comics superheroes are the standard-bearers by which all other comic team books must be judged. With the likes of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in their ranks, how could the JLA be anything less than the creme de la creme of the superhero world?

And now Warner Bros. is making a feature film about the JLA. As astounding as it sounds, this looks to be a real project that is expected to go before cameras at the beginning of 2008. Which raises the inevitable question: Who will play our favorite heroes in the film? Submitted for your approval, then, are IGN's picks for "dream casting" of this project (the people we feel are perfect for the roles) as well as more grounded "alternate casting" choices (in other words, more realistic picks). Because let's face it, Brandon Routh isn't the only guy who can play Superman…

http://movies.ign.com/articles/817/817201p1.html

The point of this is the fact that IGN is now doing an article about the Justice League movie

[triplet]

IGN posted a CASTING CALL FOR JUSTICE LEAGUE

Before there were X-Men, or the Fantastic Four, or Watchmen for that matter, there was the Justice League. Also known as the Justice League of America or the JLA (or, to the less knowledgeable out there, the Super Friends), this group of DC Comics superheroes are the standard-bearers by which all other comic team books must be judged. With the likes of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in their ranks, how could the JLA be anything less than the creme de la creme of the superhero world?

And now Warner Bros. is making a feature film about the JLA. As astounding as it sounds, this looks to be a real project that is expected to go before cameras at the beginning of 2008. Which raises the inevitable question: Who will play our favorite heroes in the film? Submitted for your approval, then, are IGN's picks for "dream casting" of this project (the people we feel are perfect for the roles) as well as more grounded "alternate casting" choices (in other words, more realistic picks). Because let's face it, Brandon Routh isn't the only guy who can play Superman…

http://movies.ign.com/articles/817/817201p1.html

The point of this is the fact that IGN is now doing an article about the Justice League movie

Matthew Fox as supes?

Crazy....

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Matthew Fox as supes?

Crazy....

As I said the interesting part of that story is the fact that IGN is all of a sudden posting about the Justice League movie happening. They have been quiet. Did they get some info or something to want to pick their own choices ?

[Bruce_Wayne29]

How can anyone say now by looking at that picture that Welling doesnt look like Superman. His arms and chest are HUGE! His eyes have the look of a caring soul. And did I mention the hair? Oh, I didnt? :)

Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you....SUPERMAN! :)

Totally agree. He's looking the part more and more..

[dark_b]

welling loosk good in this pic. he has a good body type. and the right hair. i dont like hes lips. they are to huge. but i could survive.

i hope that this seasson is the last seaoson becasue i want the last episode where he is in the super suit.

[AgentPat]

As I said the interesting part of that story is the fact that IGN is all of a sudden posting about the Justice League movie happening. They have been quiet. Did they get some info or something to want to pick their own choices ?Nothing of the sort. They're just regurgitating IESB and other site's "news," and doing it pretty badly I might add:
http://movies.ign.com/articles/816/816926p1.html

It's amazing how something that was *clearly* posted as an unconfirmed rumor has made the rounds among sites from here to Timbuktu. Do a Google search. It's unbelievable. And people were busting Sanchez's nuts for not verifying info before posting it? :o

Hulk, the only rumor that I'm aware of about Miller wanting Welling is the one that JimJim started. :rolleyes:

[bootspark]

I just called CAA and asked about Welling in JLA. The guy on the phone sounded nervous and said he cant answer that question and told me to call back on Monday. :)

The news is looking very very good that Welling WILL BE Superman.

[avidreader]

I just called CAA and asked about Welling in JLA. The guy on the phone sounded nervous and said he cant answer that question and told me to call back on Monday. :)

The news is looking very very good that Welling WILL BE Superman.

Call me blonde, but what's CAA? :O

However, that is good news. :up:

[bootspark]

CAA is Creative Artist Agency. Tom Welling is a client.

[bootspark]

I just tried to call Variety and HR to confirm or deny Miller and Welling's involvement, but no one is answering. I will try again on Monday, if its not already announced by then. :)

[avidreader]

CAA is Creative Artist Agency. Tom Welling is a client.

Ah, I see. Do you know someone there?

[bootspark]

Ah, I see. Do you know someone there?

No. Its called being impatient and looking up the number and calling. :)

[avidreader]

No. Its called being impatient and looking up the number and calling. :)

LOL! Good for you. Be sure to let your buddies here at the Hype know what you find out.

[RKromwell]

Matthew Fox as supes?

Crazy....



I could see him as Batman but not Superman. No way. But it is their dream, not mine. :cwink:

[triplet]

I just called CAA and asked about Welling in JLA. The guy on the phone sounded nervous and said he cant answer that question and told me to call back on Monday. :)

The news is looking very very good that Welling WILL BE Superman.

You totally crack me up, boots.

:D

You made the poor assistant nervous.

Too funny...

And you can't call back Monday. It's Labor Day, the office will probably be closed.

[COMPO]

The sly bastard. LOL.

[GreenKToo]

you guys might find this interesting...
seems we have a casting director now and their doing a casting call for minor roles for J.L.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=283500

[Serene]

you guys might find this interesting...
seems we have a casting director now and their doing a casting call for minor roles for J.L.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=283500

Interesting.
I only see casting happening in NewYork and VANCOUVER.

The sides aren't very revealing though.

Btw.. thanks for posting that here, GreenK. :)

[AgentPat]

you guys might find this interesting...
seems we have a casting director now and their doing a casting call for minor roles for J.L.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=283500Sanchez is looking pretty good right about now. ;)

From the 8/29/07 podcast:


11:29
Robert Sanchez: Let me clear this up, this is not a rumor. Just because Variety or Hollywood Reporter hasn't broken something yet or reported on it, does not mean things are rumors. This is done. George Miller WILL be directing the Justice League.

Krypton Fan: So all that's left is an official announcement at this point?

Robert Sanchez: All that's left is an official announcement. ...If I say something is deadlocked in, trust me when I tell you. ... George Miller will direct Justice League.

26:19
Robert Sanchez: For the fans that think we're making this Tom Welling rumor up, Clint from MovieHole, who btw is producing three films, has heard the exact same thing straight from the WB Source. Another thing too is we heard clearly that a casting director will officially be brought on this week. Which would make sense, that if a casting director does come aboard, we really think that George Miller will be officially announced between this week and next.

http://www.pluggd.com/audio/channels/krypton_fan/episodes/2zjth


Next "test" will be the George Miller announcement, and if that happens....... :woot:

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Robert: 1
Haters: 0

[AgentPat]

I love the A Few Good Men side. "You can't HANDLE the truth..." [/Jack Nicholson scowl] Hah! How cool would that be to read for a screentest? *giggle*

[GreenKToo]

well if miller is announced this week, its a done deal. It would also make the welling news even MORE likely.:)

[triplet]

I love the A Few Good Men side. "You can't HANDLE the truth..." [/Jack Nicholson scowl] Hah! How cool would that be to read for a screentest? *giggle*

:D

Too cool.

:up:

[jayskate]

im crossing my fingers and toes for some good tom casting news :D

[bootspark]

JackMercy

What do you want on your pizza?

[The Incredible Hulk]

some more recent rumors from that Countingdown person


****UPDATE****

Bojack beat me to part of this....

I got an email back from my source. She says Miller did want to use an older cast but the chances of him walking over not getting one are very slim. As a compromise he would just get to change or add characters. So far he's looking to add Martian Manhunter and the Wonder Twins. Yes, you read that right. The Wonder Twins.

As for Welling, she assured me they are still talking and those who have denied this as rumor are either being left out of the loop or legally can not say anything.

So that's the latest on my end....

http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3988682&folder=0

[LL2K2]

What the heck? The Wonder Twins??? Give me a break. :mad: This is JLA, not SuperFriends. As far as I'm concerned, Zan and Jayna can stay animated.

[triplet]

Jeez, the wonder twins?

*facepalm*

[Zorex]

I read about the Wonder Twins rumour last week on dlisted, and chalked it up to more wild rumourage. Ah well, it may yet be. Dlisted's source also said that the Gyllenhaal siblings were being eyed for the parts. Ahahahaha. Ah, sigh, I love it all.

[triplet]

I read about the Wonder Twins rumour last week on dlisted, and chalked it up to more wild rumourage. Ah well, it may yet be. Dlisted's source also said that the Gyllenhaal siblings were being eyed for the parts. Ahahahaha. Ah, sigh, I love it all.

Hmmm....

If they can do it so they're not as campy, it might work but "Wonder Twins activate!" is hardly something a serious superhero yells.

Next they'll be adding krypto and the monkey...

[Zorex]

Next they'll be adding krypto and the monkey...
Um, I do believe his name was "Beppo." :cmad: :oldrazz:

[triplet]

Um, I do believe his name was "Beppo." :cmad: :oldrazz:

Yeah, that's it.

I couldn't think of it. Wasn't there a cat and a horse too?

*shakes head*

Where do the wonder twins fit into a universe that has evil, killer robots that are really nanotech virus infected people and has Max Lord subverting a secret government organization to take out all the meta humans?

*facepalm*

I'm hoping that's just a nasty rumor.

[KBX]

Hopefully the only Wonder Twins that are added to this movie is the size of Wonder Womans breast....

But it would be weird if you have 3 characters with the word "Wonder" titled to their name... whats next? a Huge Wonder bread promo?

I can see 2 geeks dressed up as Zan and Jayna in a comic-book store for comedy relief.... thats it....

Glad to hear the thing about Martian Manhunter though!

[Ita-KalEl]

This will be the trailer of the JL movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlquD61Raw4

:woot:

[The Incredible Hulk]

Um, I do believe his name was "Beppo." :cmad: :oldrazz:

I thought their monkey was named Gleek? :)

[Serene]

Am I the only one who thinks having the Gyllenhaal's make a cameo would be awesome? Maybe (hopefully) they'd give it a much cooler spin and leave the zoo animals out of it.

I like both of them. :O

[Serene]

Okay... I'm going to really reeeach here, but again, this is all FUN, right?

Look away, Luda. :p

Moviehole posted this bit about the casting sides: http://www.moviehole.net/news/20070903_justice_league_casting_specs.html.

They note that the actual dialog is from Network, which is only partially right, some of the dialog is from A Few Good Men.

So... (hee!) Let's assume they are teasing us.

A Few Good Men = Justice League (d'uh)
Network = TELEVISION *cough*

What? It works for me. :D

[TW1977]

Obviously manipped Video.... but I thought this was kinda cool seeing TW as Superman!...IN TIGHTS!... ;) Check it out. You may have to DL a plug-in to view...

http://stage6.divx.com/Super-Heroes/video/1301764/Superman-Reborn

[AgentPat]

Catching up on the weekend. I still have guests at my house and have snuck away for a moment - till they notice I'm missing. :O


Boots, you KILL me! That's too damn funny man. I wonder which poor intern was at the opposite end of the phone call, thinking "Oh s***! There's NOBODY here to field this call, um... um... think fast! 'Call back Monday?""

The JLA casting sides are par for the course. Some of the ones that were used for SR were the same lines from S:TM, probably because they didn't want any script details leaking out. Makes sense. Kinda shoots down the nonsense of other posters here and elsewhere who claim to have read the JLA script or know its contents. Yeah, riiiiiight. LOL :rolleyes:

The Vancouver auditions give me a chuckle because of the SV connection, though it's not THAT suspicious considering that's where principal for JLA is rumored to be shot. So it's just a coinky dink. Maybe. :cool:

The Wonder Twins? Would Warners *really* buy the rights from Hanna-Barbera to use them? I'm keeping an open mind, but I'd rather they just keep it to the core cast as rumored. Wonder Twins just has campy written ALL over it. 'Nuf said on dat. :dry:

I saw some folks here talking about SV being behind schedule. What makes people believe that? Is the schedule on-line somewhere? Just because it's not synching up with where they were last year doesn't mean anything.

And finally, in the dept of fan-casting-aint-just-for-comic-nerds, a college football story worthy of a film? Nah. But the author had fun fan-casting it:


<snip>

Somebody call Disney. Appalachian State's victory has the makings of feel-good sports movie like "Hoosiers."

We can see Jon Voight, a veteran of sports movies (Adolph Rupp in "Glory Road," Howard Cosell in "Ali" and coach Bud Kilmer in "Varsity Blues"), as Michigan coach Lloyd Carr.

Corey Lynch, the freshman defensive back who preserved the victory for Appalachian State by blocking Michigan's field-goal attempt, could be played by Tom Welling of "Smallville" fame.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070903/SPORTS18/709030363/1048/SPORTS


TW and Jon Voight? Oh, I'd go see it. Lets get JLA in the can first though, okay? :D :up:


Catch y'all later. I need to get back to the BBQ. :heart:

PS: I have gotten people's PMs - just haven't had time to respond, but I will.

[TW1977]

Catching up on the weekend. I still have guests at my house and have snuck away for a moment - till they notice I'm missing. :O

Catch y'all later. I need to get back to the BBQ. :heart:



http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/TWpics2007/Animations%201/thalien02_anism-1.gif

And I thought it was only me who did that! Welcome to the "Obsessed" Club Pat! :p

*Ducks under Puter desk*

Whew! They almost caught me! Gotta go! http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/TWpics2007/Animations%201/gone.gif

[MJZ]

I was told JL isn't even on WB's production slate.

[bootspark]

I was told JL isn't even on WB's production slate.

umm.....

Then why is the script on its third draft? Why did they just hire casting directors? Why is George Miller in pre-production?

WB may have not officially announced the film in HR or Variety, but these things are happening.

JL is the best kept non-secret in Hollywood right now.

[MJZ]

^That's cool. Just saying what I've been told from on-high. Take from it what you will.

[avidreader]

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/TWpics2007/Animations%201/thalien02_anism-1.gif

And I thought it was only me who did that! Welcome to the "Obsessed" Club Pat! :p

*Ducks under Puter desk*

Whew! They almost caught me! Gotta go! http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r180/TWpics2007/Animations%201/gone.gif

LOL! Those icons are fantastic. :woot:

[Zorex]

^That's cool. Just saying what I've been told from on-high. Take from it what you will.
In times such as these, it seems everyone's source is from on high. And let me say that I'm not being snarky, I just notice that it seems most or all people who have something to say, some nibbly bit of "news" or rumour or what-not, has some source who really knows. Everyone's source is better than the others. Just what I've noticed!

[MJZ]

In times such as these, it seems everyone's source is from on high. And let me say that I'm not being snarky, I just notice that it seems most or all people who have something to say, some nibbly bit of "news" or rumour or what-not, has some source who really knows. Everyone's source is better than the others. Just what I've noticed!

Well it's what I was told from the higher-ups at that place in my sig. Who knows.

I've yet to see anything "official" regarding JL in any capacity so far...

[The Incredible Hulk]

there's not many more higher ups at that place outside of you and I so it can only be a few people. Spill....in PM :)

[AgentPat]

...I've yet to see anything "official" regarding JL in any capacity so far...http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/confused2.gif

http://www.showfax.com/role_selection.cfm?l=2&t=3&p=91713

Somebody is paying for that, and in multiple cities no less. Why would they do that if there wasn't some reason for it? Honest question.

As to the production sked, there's no producer attached. So far, JLA looks like it's being put together completely by the studio. When they have everything in place, Lin or Horn will call Gertrude in Features Scheduling and tell her to add JLA to the sked on "X" date. LOL ;)

Yeah, I bet it's that easy.

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Everyone has sources on the net & I dont mean to step on Justins or Blue Tights toes (I like the site & its users) & all but Justin & Blue Tights is VERY PRO SINGER & Justin could be in contact with people at WB who want The Man Of Steel to happen. I think the best thing to do is wait for the WB to say something before believing anything. The final truth is that we will not know anything official until the WB says something.

[KBX]

Hey its good news, actually something concrete that the JLA might actually happen in 2009....

Now this Welling thing is up in the air...

[KalKai]

We're all waiting, what else can we do.

[GreenKToo]

I have no doubt about J.L. happening, but I do about Tom.
guess we'll know soon enough.

[Zorex]

Well it's what I was told from the higher-ups at that place in my sig. Who knows.

I've yet to see anything "official" regarding JL in any capacity so far...
I've heard the same thing from the same higher-up(s), but I just think that...well, as Pat points out, there's got to be more to it all.

[Serene]

I have no higher-ups.

I just cross my fingers a lot.

[KalKai]

I have no doubt about J.L. happening, but I do about Tom.
guess we'll know soon enough.

All evidence points to Tom being in it, he's the only 1 we've been hearing something concrete about since that MSN article.

What remains to be seen is the obvious, accepting or declining, and whether it's possible to make it happen, and I'm sure they will make it happen, THEY ARE MAKING IT HAPPEN. :D

[avidreader]

I have no higher-ups.

I just cross my fingers a lot.


Your posts make my day. :up:

:heart:

[MJZ]

I simply prefer not to make a mountain out of a molehill on this--call it a hunch.

[Zorex]

Personally, I'm not expecting much. I'm just getting a kick out of watching [what appears to be] WB going mad crazy about getting this film made and out, when...well, they're track record with actually producing finished superhero films in the last decade hasn't been terrific. So, I wait, amused and interested, for this to gain any more serious steam, like maybe official announcements of key cast and crew.

[musclesforsupes]

Okay so its after Labor Day, will we hear from IESB.net today?

[bootspark]

Still nothing official.....yet :)

[musclesforsupes]

Yea this sucks, its been very slow.

[The Incredible Hulk]

patience, grasshopper

[bootspark]

Where is JackMercy??

[The Incredible Hulk]

He's at home...washing his tights

[AgentPat]

One step at a time, folks. Miller is first on the announcement pecking order, but that might not happen for a while. Just because he's next, doesn't mean it's gonna happen today.

[JackMercy]

He's at home...washing his tights

Hey! How did you...?


...I'll have you know that I only wear PVC leather...

;)



Oh, and... the pizza's still cooking, folks...

Some recipes are so hard to predict...


Be patient and uh...think of red & blue...

:word:

[AgentPat]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/pizza.jpg

Hungry little buggers, aint they? ;)

[musclesforsupes]

Ugh I bet that squrrel poop is gonna be gross :(

[AgentPat]

No news... but I did find this funny coming from a Marvel site:
http://www.superherowatch.com/smallville.php

I wonder how much appealing to the Marvel audience plays into decisions being made for JLA? SV's approach to Superman has been accused of being very "Marvel" like, so comments like the one above make me wonder a bit.

[Bruce_Wayne29]

No news... but I did find this funny coming from a Marvel site:
http://www.superherowatch.com/smallville.php

I wonder how much appealing to the Marvel audience plays into decisions being made for JLA? SV's approach to Superman has been accused of being very "Marvel" like, so comments like the one above make me wonder a bit.

Not a bit surprising. I always said that one of SV's biggest plus was the fact that people could relate to Tom's Clark. The character works best when it's not painted as a practically invincible God.

[musclesforsupes]

On the IESB.net site

Re:Welling to be Superman in JLA movie? 2007/09/07 18:47 waiting for a call around noon, should hear something regards JLA/Supes/Welling today or by early next week. Welling's name came to me from a WB source, high up the food chain. alot of these guys are at the Toronto Film Festival and wont be back til next week.



Robert posted this!


Let hope he still has got the chance at it :(

[bootspark]

I trust Robert. He hasnt been wrong yet.

[bootspark]

From Jett at Batman-on-film.com

"...looks like TMOS is more likely, from a few people I talked to. JL is NOT on WB's production schedule, that I know for sure. Singer finishes that WWII film in Germany soon and will have time to begin TMOS in the spring of '08 if WB greenlights it. More later...."

"NOTHING set in stone, one way or the other. Apparantly, there's a faction at WB that wants JL, the other wants TMOS, with the former being a smaller group in the latter."

"The question is: Which people who have the most clout and power are behind which project?

"Honestly y'all, I found out some info and most of it's off the record. Is JL not going to happen? Don't know. But I think we were a bit premature in writing off TMOS."

""TRANSFORMERS in tights...."
This is the term a insider friend used to describe what they are trying to go with with JL."

Jett has very high sources within WB. I really dont know whom to believe anymore.
Pat, JackMercy, Im losing my faith. Please Help Bootsy! :(

[triplet]

From Jett at Batman-on-film.com

"...looks like TMOS is more likely, from a few people I talked to. JL is NOT on WB's production schedule, that I know for sure. Singer finishes that WWII film in Germany soon and will have time to begin TMOS in the spring of '08 if WB greenlights it. More later...."

"NOTHING set in stone, one way or the other. Apparantly, there's a faction at WB that wants JL, the other wants TMOS, with the former being a smaller group in the latter."

"The question is: Which people who have the most clout and power are behind which project?

"Honestly y'all, I found out some info and most of it's off the record. Is JL not going to happen? Don't know. But I think we were a bit premature in writing off TMOS."

""TRANSFORMERS in tights...."
This is the term a insider friend used to describe what they are trying to go with with JL."

Jett has very high sources within WB. I really dont know whom to believe anymore.
Pat, JackMercy, Im losing my faith. Please Help Bootsy! :(

I don't know what to tell you.

They've hired a casting director and have put out sides, that would lead me to believe the film has been greenlit.

Why would they spend the money otherwise?

As for Tom, I'm not going to get my hopes up but I am cautiously optimistic.

He's handy, he can definitely play the part and they need to move fast to get this thing running. They don't have time to do a nationwide casting search like they did when they hired Tom for Smallville or hired Routh and Reeve for the movies.

I guess we'll hear one way or another soon but I don't think all is lost just yet...

[bootspark]

thanks triplet

[KBX]

I mean weren't they still planning on doing Man of Steel and JLA, its just that we don't know which one is coming out first... So what Jett said I see no surprise...

As for the WB not having JLA on the production schedule, as triplet said they set out casting sides, so that leads me to believe otherwise....

[triplet]

thanks triplet

You're welcome.

:D

I mean weren't they still planning on doing Man of Steel and JLA, its just that we don't know which one is coming out first... So what Jett said I see no surprise...

I won't talk about MOS here, it's just not done....

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3663/churchsignao8.jpg

As for the WB not having JLA on the production schedule, as triplet said they set out casting sides, so that leads me to believe otherwise....

Yep.

It seems silly for people to keep denying that JLA isn't happening when they've started spending money on getting talent.

I think they're in denial or are for some reason under the impression that if JLA happens MOS won't.

I'm not sure it's an either or proposition.

I mean, the main reason they don't want to use Routh and Bale is because Warner's doesn't want to use up a film on their respective three film contracts for an ensemble piece....

I think we just need to wait and see what happens.

[bootspark]

Im watching the first season of Smallvegas again for the 20th time (i always watch the first to the last to get ready for the new season) and TW's performance gets better every time. To see him grow as a character and actor is amazing. In the pilot, hes wide-eyed and innocent. Hes very believable as a teenager.
Now that he is 30 in real life, he is showing his age on the show, and its great. He is a MAN. And he is SUPER! :)

[AgentPat]

Y'know, here's an interesting little factoid. IESB just started their message board back in July sometime, so it's brand spankin' new. Robert has had quite a few reports garnering comments from his readers. Here's a few...

- TDK Joker images (2 replies)
- Punisher casting announcement (1 reply)
- 1/18/08 ("Cloverfield") spy photos (NO replies)
- TDK spoilers (NO replies!)
- Magneto script review (6 replies)
- Open letter to He-Man screenwriter (10 replies)

Then there's the JLA threads...
- JLA already commenced casting (bogus thread) (9 replies)
- Even more tidbits (bogus e-mail from Motown Marvel) (45 replies)
- Response to Motown from Sanchez (16 replies)
- The latest from the JLA film (47 replies)
- Welling to be Superman in JLA movie (216 replies)

For a film that's just a "rumor," there's a HELL of a lot of interest in its casting right now. Pretty amusing. ;)

[Zorex]

I know we're not really supposed to talk about it here, but I thought I might mention it...the other day I got the chance to talk to a VP of Development for Warners, and asked him very briefly about JL. He said Miller is attached and that they're spending a bunch of money down in Australia trying to get it going, but he and others are worried that Miller might take too much time to prep the film. I was a little surprised when he said Australia...maybe he mixed JL and MOS up. Also, he and others aren't counting on the strike happening, but most studios are trying to beat it anyway.

[musclesforsupes]

Okay,

I am starting to worry a bit now. I check IESB.net and Robert hasnt posted anything new yet. It's almost 4:30pm in California so the workday is about over, I am sure if Robert doesnt find anything new out by 5 pacific time we will have to wait till next week. I just got out of the bluetights.net forum and a poster there said September 18th is the day we could find something out. It would be nice if we got an offical word tonight, I would hate to go another few days till next week wondering what is to be. I for one however am going to be devistated if after all this build up Tom doesnt get the role or doesnt want the role. I believe too if he doesnt take the role, he really is turning a back on us fans :( Plus if I was him I would take it, let's face facts, both Mr. Ro.... and Tom arent the thespian actors of there day, and Tom hasnt exactly had great roles, come on the Fog, and CBTD? If Tom wants to make a career and have a shot in Hollywood after SV ends, then he needs this part. If not I think both Mr. Ro...and welling will be on the E true hollywood or on Celebrity Fit Club, plus lets face it, this is what I believe the last chance for Welling to be Supes in a movie on the big screen, I doubt there will be a show called Metropolis with him as Supes, or a Smallville big screen movie. Okay I have said my piece, time to get some ice creme in the freezer, hug the wife, and go take a shower. :woot:


"They can be a great audience my son, they only lack the star to show them the way, for this reason above all, their capacity to drool, I have sent them you my only casting decision, Tom *sniff*"
WB Robert Horn

:D

[bootspark]

very true pat, very true :)

can we call this MOVIE WARS!: '07 ?

[triplet]

Im watching the first season of Smallvegas again for the 20th time (i always watch the first to the last to get ready for the new season) and TW's performance gets better every time. To see him grow as a character and actor is amazing. In the pilot, hes wide-eyed and innocent. Hes very believable as a teenager.
Now that he is 30 in real life, he is showing his age on the show, and its great. He is a MAN. And he is SUPER! :)


Quoted for truth!

:up:

Except, smallvegas?

:confused:

[bootspark]

...the other day I got the chance to talk to a VP of Development for Warners, and asked him very briefly about JL.
How do you know the VP of D for Warners? Did you ask about Welling?

He said Miller is attached and that they're spending a bunch of money down in Australia
Miller is semi-official now. Thats good to hear.

I was a little surprised when he said Australia...maybe he mixed JL and MOS up.
Im suprised by Australia too. Arent the rumors for JLA to film in Vancuver?

Also, he and others aren't counting on the strike happening, but most studios are trying to beat it anyway.
I hope the strike doesnt happen so the film is not rushed.

[bootspark]

Quoted for truth!

:up:

Except, smallvegas?

:confused:

I live in Nashville. We call it Nashvegas. I thought it was funny. :)

[bootspark]

In early 2002, Variety had written a blurb that George Miller was in talks with WB about directing a Wonder Woman film....ummmm:)

[Zorex]

How do you know the VP of D for Warners? Did you ask about Welling?

Chance meeting. And no, didn't get to ask about Welling...though you can bet your buns I wanted to. He reacted kind of...oddly, when I asked him about the film. It wasn't quite an eye-roll, as if he expected the question...it was like an, "Ah, yes...THAT film," look. It's not much, but it's not like we have much else lately. Hearing him straight-up say Miller was on was neat, especially since all I had asked was for anything he could say about the Justice League rumour.