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AgentPat

09-08-2007, 03:26 PM

Here's some tidbits to tide us over during the wait.

SHP's poll asking readers if TW should be cast as Superman in JLA has closed. The votes tallied are as follows:

Yes 58% (167 votes)
No 31% (90 votes)
Unsure/Undecided 10% (29 votes)
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/infusions/member_poll_panel/polls_archive.php

Kahhhn from TWOP wrote:
"I guess I can tell you that Steve Younis from the Homepage has talked to Al in an email and while he still said that he hasn't been approached he wasn't anywhere near as firm about it not happening. His stance has slightly softened. So take that with a grain of Salt."

I have no idea how he knows this, however.

And finally, isn't this interesting? Apparently, the publicist who was contacted about Welling's involvement in JLA (or lack thereof) is NOT Welling's personal publicist. He's a CAA publicist who was speaking for Welling because CAA reps him.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/eyebrow.gif

Keep in mind what Sanchez said in the podcast:

21:38
Robert Sanchez: We called CAA (Tom Welling's reps). We were asking them specifically two questions because they also rep Stuart Beattie and we were hearing that Stuart Beattie was going to be writing the new GI Joe draft. They told me NO! Stuart Beattie is not writing GI Joe, and they haven't heard anything about Tom Welling and no comment on that. A day later, I get an e-mail from Stuart Beattie telling me hey yeah, you're right, I'm doing GI Joe. So you can't always believe what you hear.

Spidey220987

09-08-2007, 04:07 PM

bootspark

09-08-2007, 04:41 PM

Please correct me if I'm wrong,but didn't the writers/producers hint at or confirm that Clark will wear the suit in the upcoming season/series

In recent interviews, TBTB have said that Welling will NEVER be in the suit because of Features restrictions. But....if Welling is cast in JLA, that shouldnt be a problem. :)

bootspark

09-08-2007, 04:46 PM

Here's some tidbits to tide us over during the wait.

And finally, isn't this interesting? Apparently, the publicist who was contacted about Welling's involvement in JLA (or lack thereof) is NOT Welling's personal publicist. He's a CAA publicist who was speaking for Welling because CAA reps him.

Very interesting Pat. Remember last week when I called CAA and asked about Welling. The guy sounded nervous and said call back next week?

Things are looking UP!

Zorex

09-08-2007, 04:50 PM

Very interesting Pat. Remember last week when I called CAA and asked about Welling. The guy sounded nervous and said call back next week?

Things are looking UP!
Haha, awesome :up:

It's all so goofy!

AgentPat

09-08-2007, 05:07 PM

Please correct me if I'm wrong,but didn't the writers/producers hint at or confirm that Clark will wear the suit in the upcoming season/series :dry:
i'm sure I read it somewhere,I'll try to find the link if I can.
I can 100% confirm I didn't make this up :yay:Well, there were two that I'm aware of from a while ago. One was a "sort of," and the other was a definitive:

"This is a story that definitely has an end. At a certain point he goes to the Fortress of Solitude, becomes Superman and flies off. That's the story. We don't want to be one of those shows that overstays its welcome."
-Al Gough
LA Times, 11/10/06
http://forums.mediavillage.com/cgi-bin/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=50;gtid=7455

Q: So as Lex continues to get darker as the show progresses, the question must be asked: How many more years will Smallville run?

A: "I say seven seasons," Gough admits. "It seems to be what shows in this genre can do and do well. Certainly in our case suddenly you're bumping up against 'Why the f*** isn't he putting on the suit?' I say that's probably a good number. Will it end with him putting on the suit? And Lex making that last step to evil? Yeah, absolutely."
- nowplayingmag.com, 9/27/05
http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/2279/2/

Bruce_Wayne29

09-08-2007, 05:25 PM

The problem with Gough is that he's always contradicting himself. First it was 5 seasons tops, then it was 6 and maybe 7 and if they got 7 that was definitly the final season. Now they're saying they're thinking about an 8th season and if they get there then that's the final one. I'm guessing if they get to the 8th season, he's gonna say 9 and then that's the final one...
Then he says it's gonna end with him becoming Superman, then suddenly that's not gonna happen, then he says again that in the final episode we will see it, now it's not gonna happen because of Features...

I don't know what the hell to believe anymore coming from Gough's mouth but I guess his incoherence comes useful now that he's denying Tom's involvement in JLA.

MJZ

09-08-2007, 06:30 PM

take a cough drop and then explain why JLA has casting directors hired then? ;)

Personally I don't believe any of it. Chalk it up to experience. Hope I'm proven wrong though.

AgentPat

09-08-2007, 06:41 PM

Personally I don't believe any of it. Chalk it up to experience. Hope I'm proven wrong though.Oh c'mon MJZ, have a little faith, will ya? :p

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/champ.jpg

The Incredible Hulk

09-08-2007, 06:57 PM

Personally I don't believe any of it. Chalk it up to experience. Hope I'm proven wrong though.

so you think these casting agencies are all part of some elaborate ruse? :confused:

Serene

09-08-2007, 08:32 PM

Haha, awesome :up:

It's all so goofy!

It is fun, isn't it? :D

Even if it all goes poof tomorrow, it's good to know that there really are a lot of people who'd be excited to see Tom as Supes in a JL movie.

AgentPat

09-08-2007, 08:41 PM

Haa! I just had to drag this here. CKFanFirst from DTTW's sig:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/ScarlettR/TWsupermanbanner.jpg

:D :up:

OobeDoobBenubi

09-08-2007, 08:49 PM

"We don't want to be one of those shows that overstays its welcome."

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha what a lie

Zorex

09-08-2007, 08:50 PM

It is fun, isn't it? :D

Even if it all goes poof tomorrow, it's good to know that there really are a lot of people who'd be excited to see Tom as Supes in a JL movie.
It is fun. I don't think this'll go poof for awhile, but I am hoping for some new developments soon. Hell, part of me is hoping this film takes off, as it may provide an employment opportunity for me. :p

Serene

09-08-2007, 08:52 PM

It is fun. I don't think this'll go poof for awhile, but I am hoping for some new developments soon. Hell, part of me is hoping this film takes off, as it may provide an employment opportunity for me. :p

Really? Would you audition? Hell.. if they can't get Tom to do it, you should try for Supes! You certainly have the coloring and the height. :hyper:

If you get a job on the set, just so you know, I'll have to impersonate your... aunt... and visit you on-set. :D

Zorex

09-08-2007, 11:04 PM

Really? Would you audition? Hell.. if they can't get Tom to do it, you should try for Supes! You certainly have the coloring and the height. :hyper:

If you get a job on the set, just so you know, I'll have to impersonate your... aunt... and visit you on-set. :D
Haha, I wasn't quite thinking of acting (although, should there be auditions around where I'm at, I may have to just give it a shot...), but more along the lines of a production job, probably art department.

And you can totally be my "aunt," I'll get you in to all the cool sheet :p :)

Tomwelling4sups

09-08-2007, 11:08 PM

It is fun, isn't it? :D

Even if it all goes poof tomorrow, it's good to know that there really are a lot of people who'd be excited to see Tom as Supes in a JL movie.
Amen to that :D :up:

MJZ

09-09-2007, 12:04 AM

so you think these casting agencies are all part of some elaborate ruse? :confused:

No, but then I don't know what to make of that. This announcement of Miller keeps getting "pushed back" each week, if it's to even happen at all. The fans start creating an image of what they want to happen and then this somehow becomes fact, compounded by them rationalizing why it hasn't come to be yet.

I can tell you that all of the Welling rumors post-Ratner were just a total fabrication, and I'm starting to see the same trend here again.

Sorry I just remain a cynic until proven otherwise.

avidreader

09-09-2007, 10:57 AM

Haa! I just had to drag this here. CKFanFirst from DTTW's sig:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/ScarlettR/TWsupermanbanner.jpg

:D :up:

Within the Superman Universe it actually makes more sense for him to have green eyes, rather than blue.

triplet

09-09-2007, 11:03 AM

Within the Superman Universe it actually makes more sense for him to have green eyes, rather than blue.

Why?

:confused:

Not that the color of his eyes is a problem for me, although it seems to be for the art department at Warner's... so many promo materials have Tom's eyes photoshopped blue.

Serene

09-09-2007, 11:13 AM

Why?

:confused:

Not that the color of his eyes is a problem for me, although it seems to be for the art department at Warner's... so many promo materials have Tom's eyes photoshopped blue.

I think she may be referring to Namek and Aethyr having vivid green "alien" eyes too? Of course, having Laura on the show will negate that since her eyes are a very clear blue.

triplet

09-09-2007, 11:16 AM

I think she may be referring to Namek and Aethyr having vivid green "alien" eyes too? Of course, having Laura on the show will negate that since her eyes are a very clear blue.

Ah, Gotcha.

What color were Raya's (Pacale Hutton's) eyes?

I think they were green too, actually...

avidreader

09-09-2007, 11:18 AM

No, neither of those. :cwink: :woot:

I was actually thinking about kryptonite being the colour green.

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 11:51 AM

I can understand photoshopping marketing and promotional materials. It's done all the time. And I can even see why they'd want to give Alien Ken and Barbie creepy looking contacts. They were antagonists, after all. They're supposed to look evil.

But Welling's eyes are intense enough just the way they are. They're preternaturally beautiful and alien-esque at the same time, which is what you'd want to see in Superman...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/splinter4.jpg

Heat vision and RedK poisoning scenes aside, I'd be incensed if they screwed around with his natural color on the show. Don't fix it - it aint broke!

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade8.jpg

Spidey220987

09-09-2007, 03:46 PM

Well, there were two that I'm aware of from a while ago. One was a "sort of," and the other was a definitive:

"This is a story that definitely has an end. At a certain point he goes to the Fortress of Solitude, becomes Superman and flies off. That's the story. We don't want to be one of those shows that overstays its welcome."
-Al Gough
LA Times, 11/10/06
http://forums.mediavillage.com/cgi-bin/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=50;gtid=7455

Q: So as Lex continues to get darker as the show progresses, the question must be asked: How many more years will Smallville run?

A: "I say seven seasons," Gough admits. "It seems to be what shows in this genre can do and do well. Certainly in our case suddenly you're bumping up against 'Why the f*** isn't he putting on the suit?' I say that's probably a good number. Will it end with him putting on the suit? And Lex making that last step to evil? Yeah, absolutely."
- nowplayingmag.com, 9/27/05
http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/2279/2/

Thank you very much. Those are the exact ones I was referring to. I knew I read them before. Thanks for finding them :yay:

bootspark

09-09-2007, 05:17 PM

I can tell you that all of the Welling rumors post-Ratner were just a total fabrication

umm...reeeeeaaaallly? I dont think so. I hate to hop in my Delorian and prove otherwise.

Zorex

09-09-2007, 05:22 PM

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/crusade8.jpg
Two thoughts jump to mind when I see this picture.
1) Ease up on the youthifying makeup...
2) ...and then put him in the damn suit already.

also...something done with the hair might not be a bad idea. Just an addendum thought.

bootspark

09-09-2007, 05:35 PM

Tom Welling IS Superman. He has the look. the presence. the build. the age. the voice. He has everything.

MJZ

09-09-2007, 06:29 PM

umm...reeeeeaaaallly? I dont think so. I hate to hop in my Delorian and prove otherwise.

I'd like to see that considering there's nothing to prove.

I know the guy who sent the scoops into S-V.com and Dark Horizons, the latter being how Reeve was supposedly lobbying for Welling to get the role. None of it was true. He was sadly misinformed.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 06:31 PM

Thank you very much. Those are the exact ones I was referring to

They already went back on their words in regards to not wanting to overstay their welcome they are continuing the show just because they can. There is still plenty of time to go back on their words & give Smallville an Angel type ending where Angel does not become human, Tom Welling could still end up not in the suit in the final episode of Smallville. I would not put it past them.

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 09:20 PM

JLA NEWS!!!!! (or more rumors, take your pick LOL)

Even though the Justice League movie is moving ahead at a furious pace, Warner Bros seem adamant to not even acknowledge its existence - this despite the fact that everybody and their dog knows George Miller is prepping the project and casting has commenced in the US and Canada.

From our initial casting scoop I speculated that the movie might lens in Canada due to the presence of more offices up there than in the US, however it looks like that won’t be the case.

Thanks to info sent to us, primarily from an OWF reader in the Australian film community, we’ve now got several more bits of Justice League information to share with you:-

The studio has greenlit the project as their summer 2009 tentpole. Filming for the principals will take place in Sydney from February to June 2008 – George Miller was unsurprisingly listed as director in the info we got.

Auditions are starting up down under with Nikki Barrett (Baz Luhrmann’s Australia, The Proposition) hired to handle the casting in Australia. Ronna Kress (Beowulf, The Mummy 3) will oversee the entire casting process.

Oscar-winner Barrie M. Osborne (The Lord of the Rings, The Matrix) will take on producing duties; he’ll be joined by Miller’s partner Doug Mitchell.

Things seem to be pulling sharply into focus as the weeks progress, and with Osborne they have a top A-list producer who’s ideal to make a film of this size… but it’d still be nice to hear some official word from the studio.

I find Warners’ secrecy frustrating because, after all, they are just a movie studio making a comic film and not the CIA planning to take down a terrorist cell. However there’s a myriad of DC Comics films that have crumbled in various stages of production so the they have reason to be overly cautious with this one.

http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/exclusive-jla-snags-a-list-producer-shooting-in-aus.php

Zing79

09-09-2007, 09:21 PM

I'd like to see that considering there's nothing to prove.

I know the guy who sent the scoops into S-V.com and Dark Horizons, the latter being how Reeve was supposedly lobbying for Welling to get the role. None of it was true. He was sadly misinformed.
Please stop. While me and you both agree this isn't happening this time around I just want to be crystal clear: he was up for that role post Ratner, and was very much in the mix.

And I can 100% guarantee this. The person I spoke to wasn't a friend of a friend of a friend. HE was so far up the food chain at WB he'd trump whoever the hell is telling you he was nowhere near Singer's film.

Once again -- I agree this isn't happening this time, (BECAUSE of what happened last time). And that's to say nothing of the fact he might not even have been offered this part at all -- but whoever told you nothing was going on before is the one who is beyond mis-informed.

bootspark

09-09-2007, 09:23 PM

Pat, if this is true, what does filming in February in Australia do to Welling and Smallville?

KalKai

09-09-2007, 09:26 PM

I don't know what's up with MJZ lately, he's being so gullible lol.. or maybe just cautious.

bootspark

09-09-2007, 09:34 PM

Once again -- I agree this isn't happening this time, (BECAUSE of what happened last time).

Things change. WB wants him. He wants the role. Im sure WB will offer him ANYTHING he wants.

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 09:44 PM

Pat, if this is true, what does filming in February in Australia do to Welling and Smallville?Boots, I'm clueless. I'd like to keep my hopes up, but to make this work with Welling, they'd have to do one SERIOUSLY crazy hack job to SV, IMHO.

I'm still excited about JLA - provided it's still live action, and still sans any connection in story or casting to that other Superman project. 'Nuf said there.

Some things are interesting here though. Ronna Kress is supposedly on casting. Her last gig was on Mummy 3. Hmm. LOL But then there's that Beowulf credit? Is it possible JLA really IS going to be all mocap? I'm not so sure anymore. If it is, bah. My interest just dissolved to zero - unless Welling would be doing one of the voices.

So many questions, so little time LOL. I hope Robert can get some more info on this tomorrow. :)

The Incredible Hulk

09-09-2007, 09:47 PM

JLA NEWS!!!!! (or more rumors, take your pick LOL)

wow, if true, that's some really groundbreaking news. They also would've landed themselves one HELL of a producer. This also syncs up with what Zorex told us the other night.

The one curious bit is that this is just an email they got from somone in the Oz film community. It's not like the last one where we could go out and see the actual casting sides on another website.

How this would impact any potential involvement by Welling I'm not sure. Obviously Oz complicates things much more than it would if they shot in Vancouver. If they start filming in say later February in Oz, they could the peripheral stuff and some of the work with other stars for a few weeks and then have Tom come down some time in late March which would obviously mean they'd have to have his stuff done ahead of schedule on SV. That person with the "sources" over on Countingdown did say the show was really ahead of schedule so who knows? Maybe we only get 20 eps this season?? Too much speculation on a Sunday Night.

Zorex

09-09-2007, 09:53 PM

Weird news. I like the bit about the producer attachment, though I'm not entirely thrilled that, for this one as well, a good chunk or most of the film will be filmed in Australia.

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 09:56 PM

wow, if true, that's some really groundbreaking news. They also would've landed themselves one HELL of a producer. This also syncs up with what Zorex told us the other night.Wait! I missed it. What did Zorex say the other night? LOL

The one curious bit is that this is just an email they got from someone in the Oz film community. It's not like the last one where we could go out and see the actual casting sides on another website. The ironic part is that it's from an E-MAIL, and considering all of the heat Sanchez took for posting Marvel's bogus e-mail... well, there's reason to be a little concerned here, I think. That said, nothing in this "news" seems ridiculous, so I'm a little more inclined to believe it than not, and Motown aint swift enough to dig up a casting director's name. LOL :p

How this would impact any potential involvement by Welling I'm not sure. Obviously Oz complicates things much more than it would if they shot in Vancouver. If they start filming in say later February in Oz, they could the peripheral stuff and some of the work with other stars for a few weeks and then have Tom come down some time in late March which would obviously mean they'd have to have his stuff done ahead of schedule on SV. That person with the "sources" over on Countingdown did say the show was really ahead of schedule so who knows? Maybe we only get 20 eps this season?? Too much speculation on a Sunday Night.Well yeah. Could it be done? Sheeeeeit, I dunno? It seems like a HELLA lot of schedule juggling to do for ... lets face it... a non A-List actor. If they were working around Tom Cruise, I'd understand it. But Tom Welling? I dunno..... LOL Seems almost comical. But I tell ya, if he IS in it, they're jumping through a HELL of a lot of hoops to get him. It's almost too hard to believe, and you know what they say about things that are to good to be true. ;)

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 10:26 PM

WHOA! Okay, THIS is interesting! From Sanchez's blog:

Question: I would be careful as well, since many DC related material at WB seems to fall apart at the seams.

Sanchez: I have to agree with you 100%. How many times did WB think that they had Superman going? Tim Burton, Michael Bay, McG and those are the names that we know about.

WB finds themselves in a bit of a pickle, they have no real big films for 2009 and the closest thing is Justice League and the studio will need something big to compete with Paramount's GI Joe.

The studio is pretty confident with the script, the director and the potential leads and George Miller can deliver.

Justice League will get made, I haven't been able to confirm the producer news but it would make sense since casting directors have been hired.

Question: Robert, would this be perhaps what they were negotiating with Welling and the Smallville producers for so long on? Obviously if they were to film in Oz in February, they'd have to set it up so they did everything before Welling then, and then maybe do his stuff in March with an early release from Smallville.

Sanchez: I don't know, what I have been hoping is to hear that Gough and Millar would be brought in to produce, Hollywood is all about egos.

I hear that Gough/Millar have objected to Justice League because they feel that they have made Welling into Superman and that if he does Justice League they should be involved.

Hopefully know that Toronto Film Festival is half way through we will start hearing some solid news from the studio. Wow. Really? I mean, REALLY????? :wow:

Damn, this is surreal...

bootspark

09-09-2007, 10:28 PM

Pat, I was just about to post that too! :)

The Incredible Hulk

09-09-2007, 10:28 PM

Wait! I missed it. What did Zorex say the other night? LOL

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=12699757#post12699757

The ironic part is that it's from an E-MAIL, and considering all of the heat Sanchez took for posting Marvel's bogus e-mail... well, there's reason to be a little concerned here, I think. That said, nothing in this "news" seems ridiculous, so I'm a little more inclined to believe it than not, and Motown aint swift enough to dig up a casting director's name. LOL :p

Well yeah they did say it was an email but they said it was an email from someone in the "Oz Film Community" so I'm assuming they know the person which is why they feel it's legit.

Well yeah. Could it be done? Sheeeeeit, I dunno? It seems like a HELLA lot of schedule juggling to do for ... lets face it... a non A-List actor. If they were working around Tom Cruise, I'd understand it. But Tom Welling? I dunno..... LOL Seems almost comical. But I tell ya, if he IS in it, they're jumping through a HELL of a lot of hoops to get him. It's almost too hard to believe, and you know what they say about things that are to good to be true. ;)

True, but look at the circumstances. WB's needs a known commodity and quickly. You're right, Welling isnt a major Hollywood star, but he's the surest, most bankable thing they have for Superman and he in effect already works for them, so the time they could spend searching for an actor, can be spent just reworking his schedule. The fact that they control both the TV show he's on and the movie he potentially could be on, makes things easier for them.

Again, I'm not saying Tom is doing this, but it wouldnt be as hard to do as you seem to think since it's all WB involved. I'd assume that since they've got casting directors hired in Vancouver, it means that they'll be at least shooting some parts of the film there, so who knows.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 10:29 PM

Real or not WB is doing a damn good job at being quiet about this movie

bootspark

09-09-2007, 10:31 PM

Gough/Millar producing? George Miller directing? Tom Welling starring? To good to be true?
Oh WB please be true! :)

bootspark

09-09-2007, 10:34 PM

WB could easily make Gough and Millar Executive Producers and pay them a "finders fee" for finding Tom Welling.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 10:36 PM

With the way G.I. Joe is being ****ed up if the rumors are true then I hope this movie does happen :o

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 10:39 PM

Pat, I was just about to post that too! :)I'm still kind of in shock, but... somehow, it doesn't surprise me. Hollywood really IS about egos.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=12699757#post12699757D'OH!!!! LMAO!!! How could I forget that. Oopz! http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/oopz.gif

True, but look at the circumstances. WB's needs a known commodity and quickly. You're right, Welling isnt a major Hollywood star, but he's the surest, most bankable thing they have for Superman and he in effect already works for them, so the time they could spend searching for an actor, can be spent just reworking his schedule. The fact that they control both the TV show he's on and the movie he potentially could be on, makes things easier for them. I'm CONVINCED you could sell me snow in the winter. How much per pound? LOL

Good points! :up:

bootspark

09-09-2007, 10:43 PM

GI Joe is going to be the biggest bomb of 2009. Transformers, though not exactly like the cartoon, at least got the spirit and tone of the characters right. This new GI Joe isnt like the cartoon at all. Fans are going to riot!

Sorry, lets get back to our regulary scheduled program.

"Will Tom Welling become Superman? Find out tomorrow. Same Super time. Same Super channel!"

bootspark

09-09-2007, 10:48 PM

Pat, this explains ALOT!

When Gough said "Never going to happen", when asked if Welling was in talks for JLA. Do you think he really meant, "Never going to happen without Millar and myself as producers"?

If thats what it takes to get Welling, sign them up WB!

The Incredible Hulk

09-09-2007, 11:08 PM

I dont want them producing. While I like the majority of what they've done with Smallville, I want someone who's dealt with big, epic feature films. The guy who's alleged to be producing now is PERFECT for this kind of movie.

If Al and Miles feelings are going to be hurt than too bad. They only cast Tom as Clark, Tom made Tom Superman. Throw them some kind of finder's fee or give them some meaningless executive producer's credit on the film, other than that they've got no legitimate claim to anything.

AgentPat

09-09-2007, 11:15 PM

Haa! Well, I shudder to think what people [read: fanboys] will say if Gough and Millar all of a sudden became attached to JL freakin' Aye! LOL!!! OMG! You might as well just call it Smallville: The Movie, 'cause that's what they'll be saying.

I think I'm gonna go hide under my desk now....

bootspark

09-09-2007, 11:21 PM

If Welling, Gough, and Millar are involved with JLA, the film might dip its toenails in the Smallville water, but it would be something much BIGGER in scope and scale than the show.

The Incredible Hulk

09-09-2007, 11:21 PM

and I here I thought I'd have a nice relaxing Sunday Night...

bootspark

09-09-2007, 11:23 PM

I tell you one thing, the news is looking better than a few years ago. :)

The Incredible Hulk

09-09-2007, 11:23 PM

If Welling, Gough, and Millar are involved with JLA, the film might dip its toenails in the Smallville water, but it would be something much BIGGER in scope and scale than the show.

trust me, you WANT Barrie Osborne producing this movie

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 11:25 PM

If all three end up being confirmed to be involved in this movie then the hatred of this movie there will be well damn I cant even think of a word for it. It will be called Smallville: The Movie. Having Tom be Superman is one thing but having three people heavily involved in this movie can spell doom towards one half of the fan base & the other half will be calling this another X-Men: The Last Stand & Warner Brothers does not need that with Justice League. They would definitely need as many fans as they can get behind this project after Superman Returns.

bootspark

09-09-2007, 11:27 PM

I know Hulk, Barrie Osborne is no Jon Peters. He produced the best and most epic trilogy of all time! But, I would want Gough and Millar only as Executive Producers, if it means we get Welling.

The Incredible Hulk

09-09-2007, 11:35 PM

I know Hulk, Barrie Osborne is no Jon Peters.

Now there's the understatement of the century

He produced the best and most epic trilogy of all time! But, I would want Gough and Millar only as Executive Producers, if it means we get Welling.

I doubt that will be the case, they just dont have that leverage in this situation. They'd be likely to get some kind of finder's fee for casting Welling or perhaps some kind of side deal with WB to develop another TV or film project.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 11:36 PM

or perhaps some kind of side deal with WB to develop another TV or film project.

(Cough) "KaraVille"

Serene

09-09-2007, 11:39 PM

I'm confused. :confused:

It seems to me that we still don't have anything more concrete about all of this than we already had.. which were only rumors to start with. Am I missing something?

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 11:40 PM

So far rumors say that Justice League has

Director
Producer
Casting Director
Two of Six main actors in talks

bootspark

09-09-2007, 11:44 PM

Two of Six main actors in talks

Tom Welling is one. Is Ryan Reynolds as Flash the other?

OobeDoobBenubi

09-09-2007, 11:54 PM

Ryan Reynolds as Flash the other?

Nah they want to bring Arnold out of acting retirement for Braniac :csad::wow::woot::cwink::ninja::yay:

bootspark

09-09-2007, 11:57 PM

Nah they want to bring Arnold out of acting retirement for Braniac :csad::wow::woot::cwink::ninja::yay:

"Its not a tumor. I just have a large brain!"

AgentPat

09-10-2007, 12:23 AM

Welllllll y'know, Peters got a producer's credit on SR but he was attached in name only, right? Maybe they can do something like that with G&M?

I'm grasping, I know. LOL ;)

MJZ

09-10-2007, 06:55 AM

Please stop. While me and you both agree this isn't happening this time around I just want to be crystal clear: he was up for that role post Ratner, and was very much in the mix.

And I can 100% guarantee this. The person I spoke to wasn't a friend of a friend of a friend. HE was so far up the food chain at WB he'd trump whoever the hell is telling you he was nowhere near Singer's film.

Once again -- I agree this isn't happening this time, (BECAUSE of what happened last time). And that's to say nothing of the fact he might not even have been offered this part at all -- but whoever told you nothing was going on before is the one who is beyond mis-informed.

Well according to Singer, Dougherty, and Harris (among others), that wasn't the case.

You guys build these conspiracy theories around Welling w/o being able to produce a single fact, let alone a reputable quote from someone of note. Not trying to be confrontational, but this is the same crap all over again.

MJZ

09-10-2007, 06:57 AM

I don't know what's up with MJZ lately, he's being so gullible lol.. or maybe just cautious.

Everyone really jumped the gun on this--it's understandable though, considering how badly most fans want to see him in the suit.

Notice how cold this "story" has gone since.

Hey I'd love to eat crow on this, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Zing79

09-10-2007, 07:39 AM

Well according to Singer, Dougherty, and Harris (among others), that wasn't the case.

You guys build these conspiracy theories around Welling w/o being able to produce a single fact, let alone a reputable quote from someone of note. Not trying to be confrontational, but this is the same crap all over again.
I'm not going to name drop, because my job would pretty much end if I did, but know this:

During TIFF (Toronto International Film Fest), I manage at an establishment where A Listers (including execs) WILL be found. Yesterday alone I spoke to so many A-listers I lost count.

I spend the entire night talking to these people. I got the info straight from a source that probably had a vested interest in saying Welling had nothing to do with the project, and yet decided to tell me otherwise.

I agree he's probably got nothing to do with THIS project, but last casting wars he most certainly did.

The Incredible Hulk

09-10-2007, 08:50 AM

I wouldnt completely rule Tom out of this project simply because of how the other project went down. It's a whole new set of players here with the exception of Horn.

musclesforsupes

09-10-2007, 08:56 AM

GOSH I am getting nervous, and excited. Come on Tom give us an answer or WB. Hopefully Robert at IESB will give us some new Welling news today or this week. I am going crazy this is getting more stressfull then the casting wars on returns :(

GreenKToo

09-10-2007, 09:00 AM

I wouldnt completely rule Tom out of this project simply because of how the other project went down. It's a whole new set of players here with the exception of Horn.
You know what would really suck?? that this doesnt get made at all.
we've all seen this before with other big films.
They get our hopes up with talk of directors and actors, and then for whatever reason(s), they decide not to make it.
I really hope thats not the case this time.:(

Billy Batson

09-10-2007, 11:59 AM

http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/7003/bclark06crop1ts.jpg

Don't Welling's forearms look.....weird?

Welling's forearms look very manly too me. :yay:

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RakuMon

09-10-2007, 12:02 PM

WHOA! Okay, THIS is interesting! From Sanchez's blog:

Wow. Really? I mean, REALLY????? :wow:

Damn, this is surreal...

Gough/Millar producing? George Miller directing? Tom Welling starring? To good to be true?
Oh WB please be true! :)

If Welling, Gough, and Millar are involved with JLA, the film might dip its toenails in the Smallville water, but it would be something much BIGGER in scope and scale than the show.

Ha! I called this all along! Here's what I said in the now defunt "TW in JLA (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12586994&postcount=287)" thread:

Here's my take. I don't think the producers are strong-arming Welling at all. In fact, it goes against their interests to piss off their lead. And like others have said, a JLA flick featuring Welling as Supes legitimizes their TV show. Also, I also don't believe G&M are kvetching about an eighth season when 1.) such a season isn't even guaranteed and 2.) even if CW renews Smallville, JLA will come out after the season (which would presumably be the final one) ends. The only conflict is scheduling, but that's something that can easily be worked around. Plus that infamous 12-episode "launch sequence" can occur at any point, so if WBTV brought the hammer down, everything can still "sync up."

Also, when Superman Returns went into production, and their was a fear that Smallville might get cancelled (remember those Season 5 promos?), GoughLar went out of their way to accomodate Singer and company, as far as sharing production designs, FX concepts and such. It doesn't make sense for Gough and Millar to make a power play NOW, when their guy would be the one donning the tights.

Here's what I think:

Maybe there is tension on the set because of JLA, but I don't think it's because G&M are guilting Tom into not taking the role (that whole line about 'if you do the movie, Smallville's toast' is moot since Smallville's almost over anyway). I think Gough & Millar are trying to get a piece of the JLA pie. They've probably gone to WB and said, if you want Tom Welling, than you have to give us producers credits on the movie since we're the ones who've rejuvenated Superman and introduced the (thus far) only successful live action incarnation of the Justice League.

That's how I interpret everything, anyway.

musclesforsupes

09-10-2007, 12:04 PM

Gosh New News Today Now Now Dang It! :d

ZIPBAGS

09-10-2007, 01:52 PM

A bit off topic. But, with regard to the producers "no tights, no flight" comment. I honestly think they said that since they really didn't think the show would last as long as it had. When they said it they were trying to sell the show as a "Different" take on Superman. I can almost guarantee they never thought (Maybe dreamed) that they would be doing at least seven seasons. If they did they wouldn't have said it.

Billy Batson

09-10-2007, 08:30 PM

The reason that the comment was said, I believe they wanted the SUPERMAN fans to understand that SMALLVILLE is the story of Clark Kent NOT Superman.
The story of SUPERMAN may be told at another time, a film perhaps.?

The direction of the series should have went like this. :csad:
Smallville = 4 years
Metropolis = 4 years
Superman film franchise = 3 films
THE WB = $$$

Lighthouse

09-10-2007, 08:39 PM

WHOA! Okay, THIS is interesting! From Sanchez's blog:

Wow. Really? I mean, REALLY????? :wow:

Damn, this is surreal...

If Tom Welling wasn't a part of Justice League merely because Gough & Millar wanted to be involved and couldn't be, I would seriously lose a lot of respect for them.

TWistim

09-10-2007, 10:23 PM

Here's the latest update on JLA from Robert Sanchez:

"The Superman Homepage has received word from an inside source at Fox Studios who confirms that the Justice League movie will indeed be
filming at Fox Studios in Sydney, Australia.

George Miller is directing, with auditions taking place in Sydney for
various roles starting this week.

Baz Luhrmann's "Australia" movie will finish up filming in October/
November, with the "Wolverine" film set to move in to Fox Studios
from November to February, and then the Justice League movie will
take residence there from February to June.

The Justice League movie is reportedly set down for a 2010 cinematic
release."

triplet

09-10-2007, 10:32 PM

OobeDoobBenubi

09-10-2007, 10:37 PM

Why 2010?

I thought they were trying to fill spots in 2009.

:confused:

Robert from IESB said he emailed the SMHP guy & he said that 2010 might be the aussie release date

AgentPat

09-10-2007, 10:52 PM

Robert from IESB said he emailed the SMHP guy & he said that 2010 might be the aussie release dateI think Younis is wrong. JLA would be the type of film that would be released day and date - or VERY close to that - in multiple countries, especially the US and Oz. The film hasn't even been officially announced yet though, so an actual release window isn't going to be known until everybody's ducks are in a cute little row. That said, if they're in pre production already (it looks like they ARE), the goal would be for this puppy to preem in the summer of '09. There's no doubt in my mind about that.

Mig-El

09-10-2007, 11:01 PM

I'd wait until 2010 if it means Tom will be Superman!

AgentPat

09-10-2007, 11:05 PM

If Tom Welling wasn't a part of Justice League merely because Gough & Millar wanted to be involved and couldn't be, I would seriously lose a lot of respect for them.I'd go postal! :mad:

I'd wait until 2010 if it means Tom will be Superman!Yeah, I would too. LOL

There is one other possibility that I hadn't considered. Since Warners has yet to officially announce the film, pretty much everything we know about it IS rumor right now, and that would include the mocap rumors. IF the film really IS entirely mocap, then a 2010 release makes sense. Just sayin'.

Mig-El

09-10-2007, 11:13 PM

I'd go postal! :mad:

Yeah, I would too. LOL

There is one other possibility that I hadn't considered. Since Warners has yet to officially announce the film, pretty much everything we know about it IS rumor right now, and that would include the mocap rumors. IF the film really IS entirely mocap, then a 2010 release makes sense. Just sayin'.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would they need that big of a studio for mocap? Anyway, Tom better be Superman! <Lol, just gotta say it again!>

AgentPat

09-10-2007, 11:36 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would they need that big of a studio for mocap?For the scope of a film like this, yeah, I think so.

Anyway, Tom better be Superman! <Lol, just gotta say it again!>You go right ahead and keep saying that. LOL I'm with ya hon. :D :up:

Migu-EL

09-11-2007, 10:41 AM

Tom is Superman.:supes: :cwink:

AgentPat

09-11-2007, 12:29 PM

Well hey, what's another couple of rumors for the pile, huh? LOL From CountingDown:

Question: any idea on how a shoot in Oz could impact Welling's casting as Supes? Although I guess WB always knew this was shooting there when they started going after Welling in the 1st place.

Answer: I don't know what if any effect it will have. To the best of my knowledge, an announcement will be made VERY soon on whether they hammered out the details with Smallville's team to bring Welling over to JLA or not. He is apparently completely on board but Al Gough and others are really fighting it. From what I hear, it is partly because they were told in the beginning that Smallville could not have Superman and now WB suddenly wants Welling in the suit. It's pretty much like a bunch of kids fighting in the sandbox over who gets the Tonka truck.

Question: thanks emijayne, that's interesting to hear. I wouldnt think that Gough and Millar could really do much to stop Tom from taking the role seeing as how his contract is with WB not them.

You would also think they would want him to do it, since it basically validates what they've done the past 6+ years on Smallville. I'm guessing WB could just toss them some kind of "finder's fee" for the casting in the form of cash or a development deal, etc.

Answer: Al Gough is the executive producer of the show as well as a writer and co-creator. He may not be able to do anything but that doesn't mean he wouldn't try. I do agree with you that one would think he'd be happy to see this happen and simply move on to the Supergirl spin-off. Everything is about money in today's world though. Fans mean squat.

I will be laughing ALL DAY LONG thinking about G&M and Warner execs fighting in a sandbox over who gets the TonkaWelling Truck.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-11-2007, 12:31 PM

I find it hilarious that after all of these years Welling is finally on board to be Superman on the big screen & the two people you least expect it does not want it to happen. Ah well those two definitely do not care about fans they just care about their weekly pay check they get which is why they want Welling to stay on the show. If I were the WB I would give them the finger & fire them & have Smallville end this Season end of story. In the end the WB signs their pay checks. If they want to be hated by their own fan base they can be my guess.

Serene

09-11-2007, 12:33 PM

To the best of my knowledge, an announcement will be made VERY soon on whether they hammered out the details with Smallville's team to bring Welling over to JLA or not. He is apparently completely on board but Al Gough and others are really fighting it.

:mad:
No words. I'll just sit and wait to see what actually happens.
*hiding pitchfork behind back*

Do we know anything about this emijayne person? I wonder what her rep for inside spoilers has been in the past.

TWistim

09-11-2007, 12:41 PM

Well hey, what's another couple of rumors for the pile, huh? LOL From CountingDown:

Question: any idea on how a shoot in Oz could impact Welling's casting as Supes? Although I guess WB always knew this was shooting there when they started going after Welling in the 1st place.

Answer: I don't know what if any effect it will have. To the best of my knowledge, an announcement will be made VERY soon on whether they hammered out the details with Smallville's team to bring Welling over to JLA or not. He is apparently completely on board but Al Gough and others are really fighting it. From what I hear, it is partly because they were told in the beginning that Smallville could not have Superman and now WB suddenly wants Welling in the suit. It's pretty much like a bunch of kids fighting in the sandbox over who gets the Tonka truck.

Question: thanks emijayne, that's interesting to hear. I wouldnt think that Gough and Millar could really do much to stop Tom from taking the role seeing as how his contract is with WB not them.

You would also think they would want him to do it, since it basically validates what they've done the past 6+ years on Smallville. I'm guessing WB could just toss them some kind of "finder's fee" for the casting in the form of cash or a development deal, etc.

Answer: Al Gough is the executive producer of the show as well as a writer and co-creator. He may not be able to do anything but that doesn't mean he wouldn't try. I do agree with you that one would think he'd be happy to see this happen and simply move on to the Supergirl spin-off. Everything is about money in today's world though. Fans mean squat.

Thanks for the info. :yay: This seems to be in keeping with the other reports we've been hearing and its certainly the gut feeling I get re: Millar/Gough.

I will be laughing ALL DAY LONG thinking about G&M and Warner execs fighting in a sandbox over who gets the TonkaWelling Truck

Yeah, it all seems so silly but if they are the reason Tom doesn't star in this movie I for one will not be laughing long! :cmad:

The Incredible Hulk

09-11-2007, 12:50 PM

:mad:
Do we know anything about this emijayne person? I wonder what her rep for inside spoilers has been in the past.

I know that she posted the Welling thing about 2 1/2 weeks before IESB

Serene

09-11-2007, 12:50 PM

I know that she posted the Welling thing about 2 1/2 weeks before IESB

:word: Awesome.

(hopefully ;))

COMPO

09-11-2007, 12:58 PM

so, is Welling going to be Superman? Or is it still rumours?

The Incredible Hulk

09-11-2007, 01:01 PM

if you think about it, this would jive with Gough's pissy response to being asked the "million dollar question" by SMHP.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-11-2007, 01:03 PM

if you think about it, this would jive with Gough's pissy response to being asked the "million dollar question" by SMHP.

I doubt they have the say to do anything. In the end the WB signs their pay checks. If they push the wrong buttons I would not be surprised if they get fired depending on what they say & do.

The Incredible Hulk

09-11-2007, 01:19 PM

oh, they cant really do much other than refuse to be cooperative with the shooting schedule, although in the end they still work for WB so WB can make life MUCH more difficult on them than they can make it on WB.

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. In a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville and reflects favorably on him. This may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.

AgentPat

09-11-2007, 01:19 PM

Yeah, it all seems so silly but if they are the reason Tom doesn't star in this movie I for one will not be laughing long! :cmad:Oh, I hear ya, but if this is all true, then I think it's good news. Not G&M's opposition, but the fact that Welling is completely on board, which means WB wants him and he wants to do it. Bottom line: G&M can't stop them. They're only pissing off their star by making things difficult. Don't argue with a truck. The truck is bigger than you. ;) :p :D

BTW, I love irony. Here's a behind the scenes shot from Mad Max:

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/madmax2/Mack/TruckAttackFilming.jpg

That's George Miller on the left. The dark haired guy in the red jacket. I'm not kidding. LOL!!!! ;)

Serene

09-11-2007, 01:27 PM

oh, they cant really do much other than refuse to be cooperative with the shooting schedule, although in the end they still work for WB so WB can make life MUCH more difficult on them than they can make it on WB.

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. in a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville. It may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.

I can understand his stance too, however I would hope that for Tom's sake and for all that Tom's done to make his show what it is after all these seasons, he wouldn't totally screw Tom over by overplaying his hardball stance.

If this is all true, then I guess we just cross our fingers and hope they work out some kind of compromise SOON.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-11-2007, 01:33 PM

I can understand his stance too

If that is the reason why they are mad I can understand. But to do everything they can to not let Welling do this even though he wants to as some kind of "revenge" is just plain childish. I hope these two does something stupid & gets fired. These two will be more hated then Singer.

AgentPat

09-11-2007, 01:35 PM

I can see Gough's point in a way, I mean the studio busted his ass about a lot of things for years and wouldnt allow him access to some Superman imagery, Bruce Wayne, etc. and now they want HIS Superman to come save their bacon. I dont think there's anything wrong with him wanting some kind of finder's fee for finding the new Superman and building up the "brand" for the past 6 years. Gough may want cash, he may want a production deal, he may want a credit on the JLA film, or he may want certain assurances about how he gets to finish his show, who knows? But for him to be "dead set" against it seems like a little much. In a way it does validate what he's done with Tom and Smallville and reflects favorably on him. This may just be a negotiating ploy on his part since he's had to pull teeth with the Studio before.All this could easily explain why it's taking so long.

What are the chances that Warners has been holding off on Miller's announcement because they want to announce some high profile castings as well? Welling and Reynolds would certainly qualify, and who knows who Sanchez has been hinting at for Batman? That one could be in the bag by now too.

TWistim

09-11-2007, 02:00 PM

Oh, I hear ya, but if this is all true, then I think it's good news. Not G&M's opposition, but the fact that Welling is completely on board, which means WB wants him and he wants to do it. Bottom line: G&M can't stop them.

:woot: That is good news!!! Maybe its not champagne time yet but it certainly looks to be shaping up the way we want it! (Don't stop sacrificing those chickens now! :cwink: )

They're only pissing off their star by making things difficult. Don't argue with a truck. The truck is bigger than you. ;) :p :D

BTW, I love irony. Here's a behind the scenes shot from Mad Max:

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/madmax2/Mack/TruckAttackFilming.jpg

That's George Miller on the left. The dark haired guy in the red jacket. I'm not kidding. LOL!!!! ;)

LOL!!! That is hilarious!

AgentPat

09-11-2007, 02:04 PM

:woot: That is good news!!! Maybe its not champagne time yet but it certainly looks to be shaping up the way we want it! (Don't stop sacrificing those chickens now! :cwink: )Only today. I'll go back to sacrificing them tomorrow though. :D

LOL!!! That is hilarious!I laughed when I first saw it too. Then I sprayed coffee all over my monitor when I found it THAT was George Miller. Baahaa!!!! Ya just have to laugh.

RakuMon

09-11-2007, 02:16 PM

Billy Batson

09-11-2007, 02:30 PM

It might even allow G&M to finally have Bruce Wayne and Diana on the show. :eep: That'll sure endear them to fanboys. :D

No more Justice Leaguers, save that for the film. :cwink:
Adam Knight should have been Bruce Wayne.:csad: :cmad:

Migu-EL

09-11-2007, 02:32 PM

Who knows? Maybe we'll be able to get some real Superman imagery on the show if WB and GM work things out. It might even allow G&M to finally have Bruce Wayne and Diana on the show. :eep: That'll sure endear them to fanboys. :D

I was just thinking the same thing.:up: :super:

Serene

09-11-2007, 02:45 PM

Only today. I'll go back to sacrificing them tomorrow though. :D

http://www.reel.com/content/reelimages/chickenrun/desktops/chickenrun_run_800.jpg

Sorry.. I just can't resist a good chicken joke. :D

TWistim

09-11-2007, 02:51 PM

Only today. I'll go back to sacrificing them tomorrow though. :D

Yeah, I hear ya. I remember it was a beautiful cool fall Tuesday in Texas much like the one we're having today. Suddenly some things would never be the same. Some lost more than others but we all lost something that day.

Thanks for the reminder.

AgentPat

09-11-2007, 08:00 PM

Yeah, I hear ya. I remember it was a beautiful cool fall Tuesday in Texas much like the one we're having today. Suddenly some things would never be the same. Some lost more than others but we all lost something that day.

Thanks for the reminder.No prob. I live in Boston now, but I'm originally from NY. I'm reminded every time I drive over the Whitestone Bridge on my way "home" to visit friends. It sux. It really, really sux. :(

Anyhoo.... On topic. This has become an addiction! LOL More from CountingDown. Nothing "new" this time, but still of interest...

Question: If Tom Welling does end up getting the lead part in this movie, color me impressed with the WB's lawyers, because it'll take some slightly tricky legal maneuvering to figure out how Tom can do this flick without violating his smallville contract. He'd almost have to film the back half of Smallville's last season, season 8, and at least a little bit of JLA at the same time.

Answer: There's the trick. When I was given all my info about Welling (posted HERE (http://www.countingdown.com/movies/343447/board?viewpost=3983963&folder=0)) I was told this will actually be Smallville's final season because Michael Rosenbaum already gave WB his notice that in his words "lucky number 7 is it for me" and they can't replace him. This is why Supergirl is being introduced. They will be creating a spin-off with her that the Smallville cast can make guest appearances on. The season/series finale will have Clark wear the suit in the final shot closing the show. This is what was pitched a few weeks ago according to my source.

musclesforsupes

09-11-2007, 08:08 PM

OH MY GOSH its getting sooo close I CAN TASTE IT! TOM IS GOING TO F'N BE SUPES!!! I NEVER truthfully thought this could happen. IF freaken Al Goof Ball messes this up I am going to eat him like I eat Triple Burgers at Wendy's

So to Gough and Miller

DONT MESS THIS UP PLEASE!:woot:

OobeDoobBenubi

09-11-2007, 08:12 PM

If Michael can get out of the show on his terms then it can not be that hard for Tom. At least Tom has the WB lawyers backing him up. Maybe they can also get Microsofts lawyers involved since you cant beat Bill Gates in court :woot:

musclesforsupes

09-11-2007, 08:17 PM

To bad Robert did not check with his sources and Countingdown tonight, was hoping IESB would have some new news tonight :(

AgentPat

09-11-2007, 08:43 PM

If Michael can get out of the show on his terms then it can not be that hard for Tom.There's a difference. Rosenbaum was only signed for seven years. Welling reupped his contract for eight. Rosey can walk after this season because there's nothing binding him. Welling, on the other hand...

At least Tom has the WB lawyers backing him up. Yes! And his contract is *with* Warner Television, so everything on Warners' end was probably taken care of weeks ago.

Are you interested in JLA?
Pfft! You kidding? Where do I sign?
Right here.
*scribble* *scribble* [Dots I and crosses T] Okay, now you guys can go deal with Hans and Franz back in Vancouver. Lemme know how that goes. *whooooosh*

:ninja:

bootspark

09-11-2007, 08:50 PM

Pat, in your honest opinion, what do you think the chances are of Welling actually being cast as Superman in JLA?
If you believe the rumors, I think the chances are VERY GOOD. :)

triplet

09-11-2007, 09:19 PM

There's a difference. Rosenbaum was only signed for seven years. Welling reupped his contract for eight. Rosey can walk after this season because there's nothing binding him. Welling, on the other hand...

Yes! And his contract is *with* Warner Television, so everything on Warners' end was probably taken care of weeks ago.

Are you interested in JLA?
Pfft! You kidding? Where do I sign?
Right here.
*scribble* *scribble* [Dots I and crosses T] Okay, now you guys can go deal with Hans and Franz back in Vancouver. Lemme know how that goes. *whooooosh*

:ninja:

LOL!

too funny....

I love the sound F/X.

:D

I give Pat a webby award for best sound effects editing.

;) :up:

TWistim

09-11-2007, 09:40 PM

LOL!

too funny....

I love the sound F/X.

:D

I give Pat a webby award for best sound effects editing.

;) :up:

LOL!!! I almost fell off my chair!

Man, I can't get anything done for fear I'll miss something. All these little crumbs keep me coming back for more. I wish they'd confirm something concrete SOON. Is this sick or what???? :o :yay:

GreenKToo

09-11-2007, 09:45 PM

I cant decide which i'm looking forward to more, the final shot of smallville with welling in the suit, or seeing him in J.L.

Tomwelling4sups

09-11-2007, 10:12 PM

BTW, I love irony. Here's a behind the scenes shot from Mad Max:

http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/madmax2/Mack/TruckAttackFilming.jpg

That's George Miller on the left. The dark haired guy in the red jacket. I'm not kidding. LOL!!!! ;)

:eek: :up:

:mad:
No words. I'll just sit and wait to see what actually happens.
*hiding pitchfork behind back*

Do we know anything about this emijayne person? I wonder what her rep for inside spoilers has been in the past.

*packs torches and gasoline in the van* ;) :D

triplet

09-11-2007, 10:14 PM

LOL!!! I almost fell off my chair!

Man, I can't get anything done for fear I'll miss something. All these little crumbs keep me coming back for more. I wish they'd confirm something concrete SOON. Is this sick or what???? :o :yay:

Welcome to the coalition of the Welling! :heart:

Obsession with all things Tom is required for admission....

:ninja:

;) :D

The Incredible Hulk

09-11-2007, 11:41 PM

did that "Look Up In the Sky" in the trailer tonight seem a like a little foreshadowing? That's a tagline right out of Superman The Movie....

maybe it's just me

TWistim

09-11-2007, 11:51 PM

Welcome to the coalition of the Welling! :heart:

Obsession with all things Tom is required for admission....

:ninja:

;) :D

Count me in! I am hopelessly obsessed! *big sigh* :heart: :woot:

Whiteflag

09-12-2007, 03:39 AM

Are you interested in JLA?
Pfft! You kidding? Where do I sign?
Right here.
*scribble* *scribble* [Dots I and crosses T] Okay, now you guys can go deal with Hans and Franz back in Vancouver. Lemme know how that goes. *whooooosh*

:ninja:

LOL :woot:

And you know that Tom likes to make those little sound effects himself for fun when he's shooting. I totally imagined him superspeeding and doing the whooooshing thing at the same time. lol :heart:

RakuMon

09-12-2007, 09:56 AM

Welcome to the coalition of the Welling! :heart:

Obsession with all things Tom is required for admission....

:ninja:

;) :D

Hey Trip, maybe you should rock a TW as Supes avvie too!

triplet

09-12-2007, 09:58 AM

Hey Trip, maybe you should rock a TW as Supes avvie too!

Hmmm....

Maybe I should.... I'll do it later.

I gotta go get ready for work.

ROBOCOP CPU001

09-12-2007, 10:22 AM

I admit i would like to see if Tom could pull it off, but i thought he didn't want to play superman??

AgentPat

09-12-2007, 10:24 AM

I admit i would like to see if Tom could pull it off, but i thought he didn't want to play superman??It's a silly rumor that just refused to go away, Robo.

And damn! Where have you been? I haven't seen you 'round these parts forever? :D

bootspark

09-12-2007, 10:40 AM

No "news" today. I dont understand, if true, why Gough/Millar would not want Welling to move on to the big screen? The show is about CK becoming the MOS. WB gives him this chance for JLA. Wouldnt that validate everything TBTB have been doing for 7 years? And, since Rosey doesnt want to do an 8th season, whats the point of going on?

AgentPat

09-12-2007, 10:56 AM

Pat, in your honest opinion, what do you think the chances are of Welling actually being cast as Superman in JLA?
If you believe the rumors, I think the chances are VERY GOOD. :)If the rumors that we've heard so far are indeed true, it's probably already a done deal and they're just hammering out the scheduling. I can't tell until we get more info. Hopefully, Miller will be announced real soon. Probably will happen while I'm in Vegas too. Anybody use Nextel? If I miss out on all the "fun" while I'm ... on vacation :D ... I'm gonna scream. LOLOL! ;)

bootspark

09-12-2007, 11:03 AM

Probably will happen while I'm in Vegas too.

Have fun in Vegas. "Your so money, baby!"

bootspark

09-12-2007, 12:20 PM

From Robert Sanchez TODAY

"I apologize for being a little quiet, big day today for me, I am headed for my follow up meeting from last week, we are getting very close on a very cool comic book that is going to be turned into a film. Big studio, big comic book publisher and big director attached. Hopefully we come back with good news, I think that you guys are going to like this one. Talk to you guys later."

Thats not JLA, I dont think.

AgentPat

09-12-2007, 12:22 PM

Have fun in Vegas. "Your so money, baby!"Oh, I won't be going till the end of next week. I just have a sneaking suspicion I'm gonna "miss" something while I'm away.

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/vacation.jpg

bootspark

09-12-2007, 12:29 PM

I think something will be announced before then.

AgentPat

09-12-2007, 12:34 PM

I think something will be announced before then.Miller, hopefully. But I'm expecting that. He's it. There's no doubt in my mind George Miller IS directing JLA. The news I'm afraid to miss is the casting. :D

avidreader

09-12-2007, 12:52 PM

Oh, I won't be going till the end of next week. I just have a sneaking suspicion I'm gonna "miss" something while I'm away.

I've got your number. :cwink: :up:

triplet

09-12-2007, 12:52 PM

Hey Trip, maybe you should rock a TW as Supes avvie too!

Done.

Used that painted one I like so much... I forget the name of the artist.

musclesforsupes

09-12-2007, 01:00 PM

Gosh I swear a part of me wishes Robert didnt make that annoucement cause every day its like torture!

triplet

09-12-2007, 01:08 PM

Gosh I swear a part of me wishes Robert didnt make that annoucement cause every day its like torture!

We'll hear eventually, muscles.

Keep up the faith.

:up:

AgentPat

09-12-2007, 01:27 PM

I've got your number. :cwink: :up:OH *HUGS!* Thank you. Only thing I want to hear is any concrete news about TW. I can catch up on everything else when I return. :up:

And just to make things interesting - 'cause MJZ has been raining on our Hype parade recently :p LOL - I'll buy him dinner if Welling is announced officially. How's that MJZ? That's about ten days between now and when I hit Vegas. Get your odd's makers on it. :D

avidreader

09-12-2007, 01:49 PM

OH *HUGS!* Thank you. Only thing I want to hear is any concrete news about TW. I can catch up on everything else when I return. :up:

Yep! I know the sort of news you want to hear. :woot:

Billy Batson

09-12-2007, 02:15 PM

Gosh I swear a part of me wishes Robert didnt make that annoucement cause every day its like torture!

No news is good news, if you ask me.
No official word to debunk Robert's announcement, just Gough's pissy response.
We are finally going to get OUR SUPERMAN. :wow: SWEET!!! :woot:

http://team-el.superforum.fr/
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6509/pubteamelff1.jpg

ZIPBAGS

09-12-2007, 09:52 PM

I agree with an earlier poster. I wonder if the lack of news means they are negotiating and just can't announce since they are not done?

bootspark

09-12-2007, 10:11 PM

Brilliant. Funny. Superman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELNh23yRiJc

triplet

09-12-2007, 10:12 PM

I agree with an earlier poster. I wonder if the lack of news means they are negotiating and just can't announce since they are not done?

It's possible.

We can hope.

*crosses fingers and thinks positive Tommy-superman thoughts*

:ninja:

The Incredible Hulk

09-12-2007, 10:15 PM

Brilliant. Funny. Superman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELNh23yRiJc

old

but still funny ;)

triplet

09-12-2007, 10:24 PM

Brilliant. Funny. Superman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELNh23yRiJc

That's hysterical!

:D

old

but still funny ;)

I hadn't seen it before.

I loved the wrinkled green screen...

:D

OobeDoobBenubi

09-12-2007, 10:28 PM

I hadn't seen it before.

Thats new to me. This should be used in Smallville & sung by Tom Welling in the final episode :woot:

AgentPat

09-13-2007, 12:38 PM

Interesting....

Studios and Production Companies set their pre-strike priorities
By Edward Havens
September 13th, 2007

You may or may not have heard that there is a distinct possibility that the Writers Guild, the Directors Guild AND the Screen Actors Guild will all be striking next spring, if negotiations with the Producers Guild do not get settled between now and then. With the chance that they might go months without any new productions, everyone in Hollywood is making sure their pet projects are getting set up before the hurricane hits.

A list starting circulating around the talent agencies two weeks ago, listing the 300 projects in active development which have become pre-strike priorities for the major studios and a number of top production companies. This list does not mean all of these projects will be completed before the strike date or that they will come together in time. A few titles have already started shooting, some others have set production start dates, and a couple will likely end up on somebody's Best Films Never Made list a few years down the road.

You'll also notice certain directors have their names attached to two or more projects, while a number of them have no director attached. Hell, even Hollywood pariah David O. Russell is getting a bump thanks to the strike threat. Just that these are the films these companies are putting their muscle behind, hoping to keep their distribution pipeline open and flowing in case of a work stoppage.

As of August 29, 2007, these are the main priorities for Hollywood, in case of emergency:

WARNER BROTHERS
1906 - Dir: Brad Bird
ALTERED CARBON - Dir: James McTeigue
ARRANGED - Dir: Gary Winick
CARPE DEMON - Dir: None attached
CLASH OF THE TITANS - Dir: None attached
THE DIRTY DOZEN - Dir: Guy Ritchie
FARRAGUT NORTH - Dir: None attached
GUARDIANS OF GA'HOOLE - Dir: None attached
HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF-BLOOD PRINCE - Dir: David Yates
HEART SHAPED BOX - Dir: Neil Jordan
HIMELFARB - Dir: Miguel Arteta
THE INCREDIBLE MR LIMPET - Dir: Chris Columbus
JUSTICE LEAGUE - Dir: None attached, but looking to George Miller
LOSERS - Dir:
MEN - Dir: Todd Phillips
MORTDECAI - Dir: None attached
NIGHTCRAWLERS - Dir: McG
PENETRATION - Dir: Ridley Scott
SHANTARAM - Dir: Mira Nair
SHERLOCK HOLMES - Dir: None attached
SPOOKS APPRENTICE - Dir: Tim Burton
THE TOWN - Dir: Adrian Lyne
YES MAN - Dir: Peyton Reed

[other studio lists snipped for brevity]

http://www.filmjerk.com/news/article.php?id_new=521

avidreader

09-13-2007, 12:42 PM

Does anyone know what the strike is actually about?

More pay, better conditions? :huh:

AgentPat

09-13-2007, 12:43 PM

Does anyone know what the strike is actually about?

More pay, better conditions? :huh:In a word, $$$. :)

The Incredible Hulk

09-13-2007, 12:50 PM

more interesting is what's missing from that list....

Bad Superman

09-13-2007, 12:58 PM

mods, please delete this comment.

Thanx

AgentPat

09-13-2007, 01:13 PM

Well, that doesn't mean it won't be made; it just means it's not on the list of films in active pre-strike development. But we already knew that. Sort of.

triplet

09-13-2007, 01:37 PM

Does anyone know what the strike is actually about?

More pay, better conditions? :huh:

Essentially, Pat is right: more money.

All the guilds, the writers, actors and directors, all want more profit participation in the new forms of electronic distribution.

Right now, they don't get squat when a film or TV show is downloaded.

There are also ancilliary issues... I know the writers also want non-scripted shows where writers are listed as "producers" to be included in WGA contracts.

I'm not sure what other issues, if any, are bothering the directors and actors.

Billy Batson

09-13-2007, 02:03 PM

In a word, $$$. :)

It's always about the $$$. :yay:

SUPERMAN - TAKE FLIGHT
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ROBOCOP CPU001

09-13-2007, 05:06 PM

It's a silly rumor that just refused to go away, Robo.

And damn! Where have you been? I haven't seen you 'round these parts forever? :D

been hiding in the batbords and community.

COMPO

09-13-2007, 05:09 PM

Is that an avi of Bale or a fanfic actor?

AgentPat

09-13-2007, 11:44 PM

been hiding in the batbords and community.Well gee, come by more often, eh? We don't bite. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/evillaugh.gif

:D ;)

A few odds and ends...

Regarding the 2010 release date for JLA as posted over at SHP, something occurred to me: Warner Bros. does NOT announce release dates until a film is greenlit. Universal is the same way. Despite what OWF posted, I don't think JLA has "officially" been greenlit yet, which would explain the confusion over what year it's being skedded for release. Just thought I'd mention that.

Warner Home Video is now pushing - and pushing HARD - next week's release of SV's S6 on home vid. The ad's tag line is: "The forces of evil are gathering, and the fight for justice begins." Hah! The box set streets on 9/18. It's currently #4 on Amazon's top seller list.

I was catching up on some recent issues of Variety this afternoon and came across an interesting article about ComicCon and Hollywood's interest in attracting "fanboys." Dan Lin was mentioned by name. Here's an excerpt:

A few years ago, studios saw the decision to tap genre directors Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson to helm high-stakes tentpoles as a risky move, and yet such directors' personal allegiances to the "Spider-Man" and "Lord of the Rings" mythologies clearly worked to the advantage of those franchises.

But as Joss Whedon's "Serenity," James Gunn's "Slither" and the Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino "Grindhouse" experiment recently demonstrated, having a geek at the wheel may help to preserve the integrity of the concept among fans, but it can also limit a project's crossover appeal.

"There is value added to bring different perspectives to these movies," says Warners senior VP of production Dan Lin, a genre-film enthusiast who brought both the superhero ensembler "Justice League" and Hong Kong remake "The Departed" to the studio. "If we let fanboys make every one of these movies, they wouldn't necessarily break out."

:ninja:

KBX

09-14-2007, 12:22 AM

Do you have a link? not that I don't believe you, just would like to read it myself.... and thats gotta be a mistake....

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 01:37 AM

Do you have a link? not that I don't believe you, just would like to read it myself.... and thats gotta be a mistake....Me? A link to what? Be 'pacific. LOL ;)

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 03:05 AM

For those chomping at the bit. The latest from IESB:

Question: This whole Welling for Superman story arc has certainly lost alot of steam hasn't it?

Sanchez: Patience is a virtue. Hollywood is pretty much shut down because of Rosh Hashanah. A few offices are open but I don't expect anything for about a week.

So hang in there folks. It's amazing Hollywood gets anything done, what with the Toronto film festival and now Rosh Hashanah holiday throwing a big honkin' monkey wrench into predicting when an announcement would be made. Oh well. I can be patient. Sort of. LOL

RakuMon

09-14-2007, 08:11 AM

Well gee, come by more often, eh? We don't bite. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/evillaugh.gif

:D ;)

A few odds and ends...

Warner Home Video is now pushing - and pushing HARD - next week's release of SV's S6 on home vid. The ad's tag line is: "The forces of evil are gathering, and the fight for justice begins." Hah! The box set streets on 9/18. It's currently #4 on Amazon's top seller list.
:ninja:

Just to piggy back on Pat's observation about WHV using "Justice" to sell the DVD....

Not for nothing, but everyone should go to their local comic shop and check out the DC Direct section in the October PREVIEWS when it ships in a couple weeks. Just sayin. ;D

:ninja:

ROBOCOP CPU001

09-14-2007, 09:30 AM

I'm always around Pat.

:)

triplet

09-14-2007, 09:33 AM

Me? A link to what? Be 'pacific. LOL ;)

I think he meant he wanted a link to that Variety article....

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 10:03 AM

I think he meant he wanted a link to that Variety article....The one with Dan Lin's comments? Okay, no prob. :D

You need an account to read the article, so for those who don't, here's the whole thing. Link is at the end...

Variety
7/25/07

Execs cash in on comics, action figures
The geeks shall inherit the industry
By GREGORY ELLWOOD

TIP SHEET
WHAT: Comic-Con Intl.: San Diego
WHERE: San Diego Convention Center
FEATURING: Panels, screenings, portfolio reviews, Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards
WEBSITE: comic-con.org
Photo Gallery from Comic-Con 2007:
• Iron Man Q&A photos
• The Incredible Hulk Q&A photos
• Disney Q&A photos
• '30 Days of Night' panel
• 'Superbad' panel
• 'Resident Evil: Extinction' panel
• Bionic Woman Q&A photos
• Fans at Comic-Con: Part One, Part Two
• Exhibits at Comic-Con

When four of the five top-grossing movies this year are based on comicbooks, rides or '80s toy lines, there's no question it pays for studios to listen to the fans, many of whom were working in Hollywood all along.

It's one thing when a producer like Jerry Bruckheimer pitches a project, but lately it has been the so-called "geeks" themselves -- guys such as "300" director Zack Snyder who grew up on comicbooks and videogames -- responsible for shepherding those properties to the screen.

"There's a history of people coming to this town and running away from what they were in high school," says Jeff Katz, a production VP at Fox who was brought in to be the studio's "resident geek." "Now, it's cool to still be the same guy you were in high school -- if anything, what every studio wants at some level is a guy to fill that niche."

In his time at New Line, Katz tried to convince the studio to option "Transformers," to no avail. Today, Katz is just one of a growing number of development gurus whose fanboy expertise has gained credibility as such films have taken off at the box office.

Commercial success has helped to abolish the nerd stigma, says DreamWorks production prexy Adam Goodman, an avid videogame player and genre fan himself.

"Nowadays, if you are into comicbooks in Hollywood, you have a vocabulary that most filmmakers grew up with. You can converse in areas that many people respect," Goodman explains.

A few years ago, studios saw the decision to tap genre directors Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson to helm high-stakes tentpoles as a risky move, and yet such directors' personal allegiances to the "Spider-Man" and "Lord of the Rings" mythologies clearly worked to the advantage of those franchises.

But as Joss Whedon's "Serenity," James Gunn's "Slither" and the Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino "Grindhouse" experiment recently demonstrated, having a geek at the wheel may help to preserve the integrity of the concept among fans, but it can also limit a project's crossover appeal.

"There is value added to bring different perspectives to these movies," says Warners senior VP of production Dan Lin, a genre-film enthusiast who brought both the superhero ensembler "Justice League" and Hong Kong remake "The Departed" to the studio. "If we let fanboys make every one of these movies, they wouldn't necessarily break out."

An admitted fanboy recently promoted to senior VP of production at Universal, Scott Bernstein has witnessed a growing acceptance of "geekdom" among higher-ups. His studio is prepping a "reinvention" of the action thriller "Death Race" and is in production with Guillermo Del Toro's "Hellboy 2," Timur Bekmambetov's "Wanted" and a new incarnation of "The Incredible Hulk."

"I'm making ("Death Race") because it's a fanboy's wet dream," Bernstein says. "I think that's the mentality (around town). Look how Paramount is re-branding 'Star Trek' with J.J. Abrams. That wouldn't have happened five years ago. That was a dead franchise."

Hollywood naturally tends to attract film buffs: Just as Disney draws animation enthusiasts hoping to work with the characters they loved as kids, the "Star Trek" franchise is responsible for luring many of the creative personalities who now staff Paramount Studios.

In Abrams' case, it was actually Paramount who approached him about directing a new "Star Trek," an idea that appealed to the self-described "geek."

"I think the key to all of this is to try to tell the kind of stories that (fellow genre fans) really want to see," Abrams says. "When we did 'Lost,' the idea of doing sci-fi on television was pretty much verboten, and it was shocking to me they went for it."

But maybe geek chic isn't such a new thing after all. According to "Transformers" producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura, such things go in cycles, and the number of fan-savvy creative execs hasn't really changed since he served as president of production for Warners more than a decade ago.

"There were always two or three guys at each studio who believed in those properties," remembers di Bonaventura, who is developing a "G.I. Joe" feature at Paramount. "The rule of the studios has been that the generation doing the decision-making is not the generation that grew up with the intellectual property."

But many of the adaptations recently announced, including an animated "Thundercats" pic and a live-action "He-Man," were cartoons that today's thirtysomethings watched while doing their homework as kids.

According to Lin, who is overseeing those two projects for Warners, such properties come with a built-in awareness and lend themselves to tentpole-worthy spectacle.

"When I first got here, it was about the movie-star movies. Now it's evolved into event movies," he says. "My job is to bring my bosses what I'm into. You certainly see a lot of younger guys who grew up with these comicbooks and TV shows pushing these projects forward."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117969171

ZIPBAGS

09-14-2007, 11:02 AM

In the "Who should play Supes?" thread in the DC movies section. A poster named "Superman" said the deal for Welling to play Supes is all but dead. And supposedly he is a Welling fan.

I hope its not true. :(

Superman_

09-14-2007, 11:06 AM

Yes I did say that because from what I heard from people who are very reliable who some of you know said the deal with Welling is all but dead but he said things may change but right now he is hearing it is all but dead.

KalKai

09-14-2007, 11:28 AM

I heard the very opposite from other very reliable sources.

Superman_

09-14-2007, 11:37 AM

Well according to Showtime that deal is all but dead but then again he says the movie is now suppose to come out in 2010 instead of 2009 so things may change. But Showtime has rarely been wrong.

KalKai

09-14-2007, 11:39 AM

Showtime is your source?

Showtime has been wrong multiple times.

Superman_

09-14-2007, 11:48 AM

Not really he has been pretty much dead on as of lately especially dealing with this movie.

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 11:53 AM

oh jesus,them again? They never even acknowledged hearing Welling's name mentioned for the role, now that deal is as good as dead?

KalKai

09-14-2007, 11:54 AM

Before Sanchez broke the news about Welling being approached Showtime has been saying that Welling was in no way involved in this.

You're taking everything Showtime says as gospel, so gullible, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering where both of you are coming from.

Showtime

09-14-2007, 11:58 AM

Superman_

09-14-2007, 11:59 AM

Well first off Kal I wanted to see Welling in this movie as Superman so if this is true I am upset by this because despite my personal feelings to the way SV has gone I always did like SV cast and have always wanted to see Welling as Superman all because I am a fan of Routh and Superman Returns doesn't mean I did not like Welling or this show. I think this show much like Superman Returns could do better but I have always wanted and thought Welling should be so Superman. So if the news is true I am not happy about it.

And on a side note Showtime is not the only person who I know who has real credit in info like this saying the same thing.

Showtime

09-14-2007, 12:13 PM

Showtime is your source?

Showtime has been wrong multiple times.

Well since you have "very reliable" sources then Welling should be announced any day now right? :cwink:

In regards to Welling, the problem with you is that you are trying to paint a picture that I am intentionally trying to ruin the fans of Welling's time in the sun. Which is not true. If I watch the show, why would it matter if Welling became Superman?

Another problem with both you and Hulk is that you insist on grouping all fans of Superman Returns in too one group, "Welling Haters". That is very narrow-minded and quite suprising, since I had plenty of problems with Superman Returns.

If that is how you want to play it then feel free, but if you are going to point out to where I was wrong then also acknowledge where I was right. Dont feel so threatened by Welling possibly not getting the role that you lose sight of your agenda. Just some friendly advice. I don't feel threatened if Brandon doesn't get to be Superman again, it is what it is, my life moves on. Same with if Welling becomes Superman, it is what it is.

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 12:22 PM

Honestly Kal and Hulk, no idea what your problem is. Never had a bad thing to say about you but for some reason you feel threatened by some of the information I put out there. If Welling becomes Superman so be it, I have no problem with Welling, nor have I said one bad thing about him.

never said I had a problem with you Chief, and I'm sure as heck not "threatened" by what you have to say. I'm just getting sick and tired of all the alleged people with "sources" that seem to be popping up around here and they all seem to be getting their info about things AFTER the intiial bits pop up elsewhere. (I also have a strong hunch about where some of it is coming from)

Wouldnt you start to question things a bit if someone who was alleged to be a source never mentioned a certain actor as being up for a role, and then out of nowhere the actor's name pops up for the part on a website, and now all of a sudden that source now "knows" enough to be able to give you the status of any negotiations the actor might have been in? Seems a bit fishy to me. If they now have the ability to know the outcome of this actor's negotiations with the studio, dont you think they wouldve known those negotiations were happening the first place?

Another problem with both you and Hulk is that you insist on grouping all fans of Superman Returns in too one group, "Welling Haters". That is very narrow-minded and quite suprising, since I had plenty of problems with Superman Returns.

I do? :confused: Where have I done that? I know plenty of people over at The Planet that like both. Dont paint me as someone who has a seething hate for that movie, because I dont. I mod the forums over at the site that was the biggest supporter of that movie for cripe's sake.

KalKai

09-14-2007, 12:30 PM

Well since you have "very reliable" sources then Welling should be announced any day now right? :cwink:

I was just playing his same game. This isn't the 1st time Superman_ (All-Star) tells us about his very reliable people, although he never mentioned them by name before, I wanted to know who they were, never thought he was actually speaking about you.

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 12:34 PM

Well first off Kal I wanted to see Welling in this movie as Superman so if this is true I am upset by thisOh please. You voted THREE times using three different account names ("Superman_," "Conan" and "All-Star Superman") for Routh in that poll.

And on a side note Showtime is not the only person who I know who has real credit in info like this saying the same thing.Look, no offense to Showtime because I think he's a really nice guy, but the last thing that came out of that group of "insiders" - one of whom being King trollboy himself Kane - was that Warners "would never cast Welling as Superman because they don't like him because he's uncooperative." Give me a freakin' break. That started over at BlueTights by JimJimBinks, a known fan of... well, that other franchise.

And PLEASE, lets not turn this thread into a debate about that ^ sheet. Everybody has an agenda, which is okay because we all have preferences and biases - even if they're not overtly obvious. I don't hide behind mine; I wear it proudly. Until Warners formally announces somebody else in the role, I will continue to hold onto my hope that Welling gets the part, because it would be a dream come true for me and millions of other fans to see him AS Superman on the big screen.

Showtime

09-14-2007, 12:34 PM

never said I had a problem with you Chief, and I'm sure as heck not "threatened" by what you have to say. I'm just getting sick and tired of all the alleged people with "sources" that seem to be popping up around here and they all seem to be getting their info about things AFTER the intiial bits pop up elsewhere. (I also have a strong hunch about where some of it is coming from)

Are you being vague when refering to this people or trying to group me in there? It's a gray area. That last time I was called Chief I believe that 90210 was on the air?

You shouldn't rely that much on hunches. :cwink:

Wouldnt you start to question things a bit if someone who was alleged to be a source never mentioned a certain actor as being up for a role, and then out of nowhere the actor's name pops up for the part on a website, and now all of a sudden that source now "knows" enough to be able to give you the status of any negotiations the actor might have been in? Seems a bit fishy to me. If they now have the ability to know the outcome of this actor's negotiations with the studio, dont you think they wouldve known those negotiations were happening the first place?

Again, no idea what you are talking about. If you are talking about me and my information about Welling. I actually said Welling wouldn't be up for the role because WB wasn't keen on the idea BEFORE any news on Welling broke receiving the role. After it broke, I admited that the info I received was wrong.

In regards to what Superman is talking about, he is refering to a PM we shared last night where I said I THINK the Welling deal is dead and I said but "who knows". I don't claim to have any info on Welling at all at this point, so I am not sure what happened. Superman is free to post the private message convo if he wishes, but you will see that I didn't say I had any inside info on Welling and it was my opinion at this point.

I do? :confused: Where have I done that? I know plenty of people over at The Planet that like both. Dont paint me as someone who has a seething hate for that movie, because I dont. I mod the forums over at the site that was the biggest supporter of that movie for cripe's sake.

I didn't say you hated the movie did I? I said you seem to think if somebody likes Returns then it means they are "bad". You want to group me with certain other posters and portray me as somebody that is the same way, so why not group you in together with Kal Kai? Same difference right? :dry:

Showtime

09-14-2007, 12:36 PM

I was just playing his same game. This isn't the 1st time Superman_ (All-Star) tells us about his very reliable people, although he never mentioned them by name before, I wanted to know who they were, never thought he was actually speaking about you.

As far as I know, I don't think he was. I was misquoted anyway, and he can post the private message if he wishes.

No need to catch feelings about it.

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 12:39 PM

The latest from IESB:

Let me be very clear of what I have alluded about Ryan Gosling. I haven't been this clear about until now. I was told that Ryan Gosling was the top choice for WB/DC [for BATMAN], I don't and I repeat, nor do I know at this time that if Gosling has been talked to or even if he is interested in the role.

I have been waiting for a weeks but with the TIFF it has delayed a few things.

I have been told that some news is coming very soon. I don't know what for sure but I am expecting that we will first hear the director and producers announced (George Miller, Barrie Osborne).

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 12:42 PM

Are you being vague when refering to this people or trying to group me in there? It's a gray area. That last time I was called Chief I believe that 90210 was on the air?

You shouldn't rely that much on hunches. :cwink:

I'm just talking about in general, not specifically you, sorry if it came across that way. I've always said I liked you and thought you were one of the more level-headed people around here. And If i was going for the 90210 thing I would've called you "Bro" ;)

Again, no idea what you are talking about. If you are talking about me and my information about Welling. I actually said Welling wouldn't be up for the role because WB wasn't keen on the idea BEFORE any news on Welling broke receiving the role. After it broke, I admited that the info I received was wrong.

Actually I was more referring to questioning sources up a level

I didn't say you hated the movie did I? I said you seem to think if somebody likes Returns then it means they are "bad". You want to group me with certain other posters and portray me as somebody that is the same way, so why not group you in together with Kal Kai? Same difference right? :dry:

I dont think people who like Returns are bad. "Misguided" maybe but not bad and I surely dont equate them to being "Welling haterz"

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 12:43 PM

In regards to what Superman is talking about, he is refering to a PM we shared last night where I said I THINK the Welling deal is dead and I said but "who knows". I don't claim to have any info on Welling at all at this point, so I am not sure what happened.Thanks for clearing that up, Show. That's all that need be said.

KalKai

09-14-2007, 12:46 PM

The latest from IESB:

What? Young Hercules being DC's/WB's top choice for Superman? :dry:

Showtime

09-14-2007, 12:46 PM

I'm just talking about in general, not specifically you, sorry if it came across that way. I've always said I liked you and thought you were one of the more level-headed people around here. And If i was going for the 90210 thing I would've called you "Bro" ;)

It's cool man, you are right and you did say that. We all have love for the character, so I guess we agree on that, Bro.

Actually I was more referring to questioning sources up a level
What sources are higher than me? :dry:

I dont think people who like Returns are bad. "Misguided" maybe but not bad and I surely dont equate them to being "Welling haterz"

Fair enough.

Showtime

09-14-2007, 12:47 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, Show. That's all that need be said.

Noted.

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 12:49 PM

What? Young Hercules being DC's/WB's top choice for Superman? :dry:HAHAHAHA!!! I guess I should have included more from the thread. He's talking about BATMAN. LOLOLOL!! Sorry, didn't mean to give everybody a coronary. He hasn't said anything different about Superman for weeks.

I'll go edit that post now. :O

KalKai

09-14-2007, 12:53 PM

HAHAHAHA!!! I guess I should have included more from the thread. He's talking about BATMAN. LOLOLOL!! Sorry, didn't mean to give everybody a coronary. He hasn't said anything different about Superman for weeks.

I'll go edit that post now. :O

LOL phew. :O

Superman_

09-14-2007, 12:53 PM

Oh please. You voted THREE times using three different account names ("Superman_," "Conan" and "All-Star Superman") for Routh in that poll.

Look, no offense to Showtime because I think he's a really nice guy, but the last thing that came out of that group of "insiders" - one of whom being King trollboy himself Kane - was that Warners "would never cast Welling as Superman because they don't like him because he's uncooperative." Give me a freakin' break. That started over at BlueTights by JimJimBinks, a known fan of... well, that other franchise.

And PLEASE, lets not turn this thread into a debate about that ^ sheet. Everybody has an agenda, which is okay because we all have preferences and biases - even if they're not overtly obvious. I don't hide behind mine; I wear it proudly. Until Warners formally announces somebody else in the role, I will continue to hold onto my hope that Welling gets the part, because it would be a dream come true for me and millions of other fans to see him AS Superman on the big screen.Well first off Pat all because I voted for Routh on a poll does not make me against Welling. First and foremost most of you seem to have forgotten long before you and Kal and most the fans here (I joined this board 3-10-2003 you joined 4-16-2004 which mean over a year before you) in fact the only person here that came before me was Hulk but long before then I have been saying I wanted Welling as Superman. Also Pat do you understand why I voted for Routh on that poll? Because at the time being if Bale was to be Batman then it is only fair IMO that Routh should be Superman. As I have stated over and over and over in this thread many times and on this board I would love to see Welling as Superman, but unlike most of the people on the SV board I also enjoyed Routh's Superman so I am happy with him. But all because I like Routh doesn't mean I stopped liking Welling.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 12:54 PM

You act as if he is?

You should see Mike at The Planet. He pretty much tells people to **** off if they dont believe the Tom Welling "Rumor" & then he puts them on a personal list to rub it in & make their stay at The Planet very difficult if Tom Welling ever got confirmed for the role.

Showtime

09-14-2007, 12:57 PM

I have seen his work first hand on The Tights.

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 01:19 PM

Jezzes, All-Star, whatever. Rationalize voting THREE times with three different usernames however you want. I just thought it was petty and chose not to participate solely on those grounds. Believe it or not.

I could give a rats bum who the other actors are in JLA. I was a Bale fan before Welling and I don't care one way or the other if Bale's in JLA. It'd be nice if he was, but it's not a big deal either way. It certainly isn't enough to alter who I think should be Superman. If the rest of the cast looks the part and can act reasonably well, I'm good. We're not casting Shakespeare here. Get Welling as Superman, whoever this Rosling guy is as Batman (I don't know the actor, but he must be fairly decent having an AA nom under his belt), Reynolds as Flash, and an actress with a smokin' bod for Wonder Woman (the female lead from Transformers comes to mind), and they'll have one HELL of a cast. My goodness, this aint rocket science. It's a summer popcorn movie. Lets just make it fun and entertaining and something people want to see. *sigh*

PS: Mike is a trip. But I'm a Welling fan, so that's why I think that. :D :p

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 01:23 PM

heliorei

09-14-2007, 01:47 PM

This is my first post in this thread. i've waited for calmer times to give my insight on this.

I've always thought a JLA movie would be almost impossible to make but the F/X effects have evolved quickly and since I saw the transformers movie with those incredible F/x effects, I believe its conceivable to have a Jla movie.

George Miller as the director? as long as he respects the characters, I'm fine with him.

Tom Welling as Superman for this movie? it would be a dream come true!!! :up: ...but...but until I see an official statement from the WB, declaring Tom is signed for the Superman in the JLA movie, I'll remain skeptical.

...but I'll ask AgentPat to sacrifice some chickens for me...

Tom already plays the character in Smallville, is not afraid of typecast so he is definately my top choice for Superman.

I've always felt a JLA movie would be a starting point to come up with spin-off movies with the other characters whose projects have become stalled: Flash, WonderWoman, among others but seeing these boards, it shows they actually not just one Jla movie, but possibly two or three movies.

TW as Superman in two or three movies as Superman? Ok people, it's KO...lol

I'll definately watch this movie but if Tom enters in the movie as Superman, I'll able on the first day exhibition in a theater near me.

BTW, just throwing a suggestion for Batman: instead of Ryan Gosling, I'll point to Jonathan Rhys Meyers.

Peace.

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 01:54 PM

Ryan Gosling looks nothing like Batman would if you ask me behind the suit if you ask me. I just can not see Ryan in that role even if we do not see Bruce Wayne at all I just do not see it. Just offer the damn role to David Boreanaz & get it over with. That is definitely lazy super lazy casting if Ryan gets the role. I worry about who they will pick as Wonder Woman if Ryan Gosling is the WBs main choice for Batman.

No? He can look a lot like Bale

http://sp1.mm-a1.yimg.com/image/2187800928

Also Gosling was nominated for an Academy Award and is leaps and bounds a better actor than Boreanaz.

mellyM

09-14-2007, 01:57 PM

Ryan Gosling looks nothing like Batman would if you ask me behind the suit if you ask me. I just can not see Ryan in that role even if we do not see Bruce Wayne at all I just do not see it. Just offer the damn role to David Boreanaz & get it over with. That is definitely lazy super lazy casting if Ryan gets the role. I worry about who they will pick as Wonder Woman if Ryan Gosling is the WBs main choice for Batman.
Ryan G. is certainly a better actor than Boreanaz, for that reason alone he should get chosen over him--not that the studios are even debating that I'm sure. I can't imagine former Angel as Batman

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 02:12 PM

[quote=The Incredible Hulk;12758872]No? He can look a lot like Bale

http://sp1.mm-a1.yimg.com/image/2187800928/quote]

So they are pulling a Singer to find a guy that can look like the best actor in the role eh ?

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 02:15 PM

Ryan Gosling [/B]looks nothing like Batman would if you ask me behind the suit And this guy does?

http://alansmithee.5u.com/intro/hilarity/ns_keaton&winker01a.jpg

:p

The guy cast as Batman will be wearing a mask for most if not all of the film. The primary focus for Batman's casting should be a thesp who's a good actor and who is at least 6' tall to simplify things for the cameras. Everything else can be fudged with costuming.

The actor who plays Superman is more visually vulnerable, however. He doesn't wear a mask, and he doesn't wear black (or gray? LOL) armored clothing. He wears a bright blue, skin tight leotard with a red cape. Like Wonder Woman's visage, everything about Superman says, "LOOK AT ME!" So the face and body better be worth the stare. With Welling, it is, IMHO. :D

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/combat3.jpg

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/bike.jpg

Showtime

09-14-2007, 02:17 PM

Gosling is a solid actor and really looks like Bale and/or Batman, however I still have my reservations as I've said.

http://www.northernstars.ca/actorsghi/Media/gosling_ryan_250.jpg

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 02:19 PM

Gosling is a solid actor and really looks like Bale and/or Batman, however I still have my reservations as I've said

He can amazingly look like Bale & he is a good actor I just think hes the last person to come to my mind when it comes to casting Batman & I am sure it is the same for most here. You got to hand it to these guys for looking at actors no one else would.

Mike22

09-14-2007, 02:22 PM

You should see Mike at The Planet. He pretty much tells people to **** off if they dont believe the Tom Welling "Rumor" & then he puts them on a personal list to rub it in & make their stay at The Planet very difficult if Tom Welling ever got confirmed for the role.
My my, aren`t we misinterpreting some things.
First of all, I don`t tell me to **** off if they don`t believe in the Welling rumors, that`s just a dirty lie. In the particular case you mention here I told a certain fella to piss off was because he kept annoying me with with his misinterpretation of things, so I told him that he knew where the door was if he didn`t like the topic of discussion, Only I worded it differently.

And that last part has truth to it though, if this Welling rumor turns out to be true, then , as I said in my original post, and I was very clear about it, ( CERTAIN) individuals were gonna get reminded of it for a veeeeeeery long time a head, one could interpret this to mean that I`ll most likely rub it in if they decide to act like they`re doing now.
Because after 3 years of non stop lies from them about welling and how he hates superman, and how he`ll NEVER be superman, either on the show or the movies....just gets to much, so I don`t think it`s unfair that they get what they deserve for shooting their mouths of about something they knew little about ( Welling).

So you might have misunderstood a few things there Caboose.

Serene

09-14-2007, 02:23 PM

Well first off Pat all because I voted for Routh on a poll does not make me against Welling.
Three times, and under different names. 'Nuff said.

Ryan Gosling looks nothing like Batman would if you ask me behind the suit if you ask me. I just can not see Ryan in that role even if we do not see Bruce Wayne at all I just do not see it. Just offer the damn role to David Boreanaz & get it over with. That is definitely lazy super lazy casting if Ryan gets the role. I worry about who they will pick as Wonder Woman if Ryan Gosling is the WBs main choice for Batman.

BOREANZ?! No. Please, just. no.

Gosling's looks aren't what I would normally picture for Bats, but you know what? He's such an incredible actor with a style that is dead-on perfect for the intensity and brooding nature of Batman. Hell yeah, if they can get Gosling, I think it would be a coup. Dye his hair, shoot him up with some steroids.. and thereyago. ;)

BTW, just throwing a suggestion for Batman: instead of Ryan Gosling, I'll point to Jonathan Rhys Meyers.

Peace.

Meyers is another good actor and would be an interesting choice, but man.. he looks so much like a young skinny Elvis, I'd have a really hard time seeing him as Batman. He's seems like a pretty tiny guy too, not sure there's enough time for the 'roids to kick in on that one. :D

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 02:31 PM

I was partly right Mike :woot: If Welling gets confirmed I guess you wont be that much different the the haters themselves for doing what they did. Your lucky you dont post here reguarly

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 02:32 PM

So they are pulling a Singer to find a guy that can look like the best actor in the role eh ?

No. They found a guy who can act and looks like a young Bruce Wayne that at times looks similar to Bale

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 02:38 PM

Meyers is another good actor and would be an interesting choice, but man.. he looks so much like a young skinny Elvis, I'd have a really hard time seeing him as Batman. He's seems like a pretty tiny guy too, not sure there's enough time for the 'roids to kick in on that one. :D

which is why he in fact DID play a young, skinny Elvis once....

he's good, but he's busy with the excellent The Tudors series that's on Showtime now, where he costars with one time rumored Superman henry Cavill....small world

Mike22

09-14-2007, 02:40 PM

I was partly right Mike :woot: If Welling gets confirmed I guess you wont be that much different the the haters themselves for doing what they did. Your lucky you dont post here reguarly

Only partly, and the rest of your post here isn`t very accurate either.
If Welling is cast and IF they decide to act like they`re doing now, then I might be able to mention that Welling did sign on for superman in spite of their constant lies about him. And that`s about IT. So I think you might have a completely different opinion to what rubbing it in is that what I see for it to mean.
It`s a forum, it`s not like I`m gonna go on full blown attacks at people for disagreeing with me, it`s only a damn movie.
You have some serious misunderstandings here fella.

Serene

09-14-2007, 02:41 PM

he's good, but he's busy with the excellent The Tudors series that's on Showtime now, where he costars with one time rumored Superman henry Cavill....small world

I only saw the first few episodes of that series, but it's fabulous. I will definitely get those DVDs when they come out.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 02:43 PM

So who do we have so far as far as rumors go

Tom Welling as Superman
Ryan Reynolds as The Flash
Ryan Gosling as Batman

Mike22

09-14-2007, 02:44 PM

[quote=Serene;12759034]

BOREANZ?! No. Please, just. no.

I think Boreanaz would have been awesome as Bats, he has the talent, the looks and the build for it.

Not that I mind Gosling, I`ve seen one of his movies, and he sure is a good actor, he`d be a great Batman, problem for me is that he might look a bit young.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 02:48 PM

The Incredible Hulk

09-14-2007, 02:50 PM

I only saw the first few episodes of that series, but it's fabulous. I will definitely get those DVDs when they come out.

That and I LOVE the girl who plays Anne Boelyn :heart:

http://www.tudorsonline.com/gallery/albums/userpics/anne108.jpg

as a matter of fact, get HER for Wonder Woman ;)

Mike22

09-14-2007, 02:53 PM

It seems like they want to get the main cast signed before any official announcements are made. I think it is safe to say that they right away contacted Ryan Reynolds about this movie after they read the script & then Tom Welling & then Ryan Gosling.

Welling and Reynolds have always been long time favorites, so I`m really happy about them possibly being in this movie, and as for Gosling, I like his work, he`s very very talented. I personally doubt Boreanaz was even an option so I`ll let that go right away.
I wonder who they`ll get for Aquaman, MM and WW?
These next few weeks are gonna be very interesting.

OobeDoobBenubi

09-14-2007, 02:54 PM

We can blame the stupid movie thing going on right now for tying up WB damn that thing :o & you forgot the Green Lantern

JimCorbin

09-14-2007, 02:54 PM

Superman because they don't like him because he's uncooperative." Give me a freakin' break. That started over at BlueTights by JimJimBinks, a known fan of... well, that other franchise.

Saying anything was started by me over there is complete bull.

I never posted anything publicly on any board about what I had heard about Welling.

I was talking to someone in a PRIVATE IM conversation, telling him what I heard from some friends, and unbeknownst to me, the person took a completely out of context screenshot of our conversation and started passing it around as if it were the fraking gospel truth.

There was a reason I never posted any of that. I'd heard it from a trusted friend, but I had no proof and I didn't care to provide any because I didn't want to go into the subject at all.

And I really can't decide if I find the "a known fan of... well, that other franchise" comment infuriating, or hilariously stupid.

Mike22

09-14-2007, 02:58 PM

We can blame the stupid movie thing going on right now for tying up WB damn that thing :o & you forgot the Green Lantern
Oh yeah, damn, I forgot GL. I already heard a rumor about him, but I didn`t really think the world of it. I can`t remember that actors name to save my life though.

Serene

09-14-2007, 03:00 PM

That and I LOVE the girl who plays Anne Boelyn :heart:

http://www.tudorsonline.com/gallery/albums/userpics/anne108.jpg

as a matter of fact, get HER for Wonder Woman ;)

You know...that's not such a crazy idea.

I was talking to someone in a PRIVATE IM conversation, telling him what I heard from some friends, and unbeknownst to me, the person took a completely out of context screenshot of our conversation and started passing it around as if it were the fraking gospel truth.

Sadly enough, there are weasels with no sense of honor amongst us. That kind of behavior doesn't surprise me at all in regards to our resident weasel-boy.

Pickle-El

09-14-2007, 03:03 PM

I have seen his work first hand on The Tights.

Tell me about it....;)

Pickle-El

09-14-2007, 03:05 PM

So, I take it nothing new to report on the rumor-mill?

JimCorbin

09-14-2007, 03:07 PM

Sadly enough, there are weasels with no sense of honor amongst us. That kind of behavior doesn't surprise me at all in regards to our resident weasel-boy.

:cmad: <----Me right now. I knew that screenshot had gotten around, and I was pissed, but I didn't know HOW MUCH it had gotten around.

TWistim

09-14-2007, 03:33 PM

No? He can look a lot like Bale

http://sp1.mm-a1.yimg.com/image/2187800928

Also Gosling was nominated for an Academy Award and is leaps and bounds a better actor than Boreanaz.

Just my 2 cents :yay: - I love the idea of Ryan Gosling for Batman. He is a great actor with real depth. His Oscar nominated role was a tortured drug addict. He could bring the brooding, edginess that is needed for the role of Batman. His natural physique is lean but I'm sure with the right trainer he could bulk up for the part. :woot:

AgentPat

09-14-2007, 03:44 PM

Saying anything was started by me over there is complete bull.

I never posted anything publicly on any board about what I had heard about Welling.I didn't say you did. I said it was started by you. Clearly, you had no idea Kane would spread it all over the I-Net, but that's what happened.

And I really can't decide if I find the "a known fan of... well, that other franchise" comment infuriating, or hilariously stupid.You're a fan of Singer's Superman franchise, are you not? Am I making stuff up? No. I just didn't want an argument started here between opposing fans so I avoided even mentioning Singer, Superman Returns, or anything related to those specific topics by name. Nothing ever good comes out of such discussion here, especially in THIS thread. And secondly, it's against the rules for this forum anyway.

:cmad: <----Me right now. I knew that screenshot had gotten around, and I was pissed, but I didn't know HOW MUCH it had gotten around.You should be rip-roaring angry, because that screen shot went around the world like it was on tour. I had people sending it to me as an FYI. That infuriated ME because it just furthered what I feel to be one of the most bogus rumors to ever make the rounds about Welling.

Please now, lets get back on topic. Okay? Please?

MJZ

09-14-2007, 04:42 PM

The latest from IESB:

I suggested Gosling for Batman on here a few weeks ago.

This is getting absurd.

triplet

09-15-2007, 01:45 AM

Interesting thing I noticed when I was bored and checked the production lists for the IA and DG sites up in BC.

The production list for the IA 891 local lists Smallville as wrapping on the 16th of April.

http://www.iatse.com/document/PRODUCTIONS.pdf

The list over on the DG site has Smallville production ending on the 12th....

http://www.dgcbc.com/productions.pdf

Now, it's only a 4 day difference but could that mean things are moving Tom's way?

*thoughtfully strokes chin*

It could mean nothing or that that one of the lists is wrong, but I wonder if they're looking to wrap things up sooner so that Tom can get down to Sidney in time to pull on the tights for the big screen?

:up:

Let's hope....

Billy Batson

09-15-2007, 02:04 AM

http://www.supermantv.net/messageboard/smilies/unsure.gif "Hmmm!"you may be on to something there. http://www.supermantv.net/messageboard/smilies/smile.gif

Syncos

09-15-2007, 02:05 AM

We can blame the stupid movie thing going on right now for tying up WB damn that thing :o & you forgot the Green Lantern

Speaking of the Lantern, I wonder which they'll use....

Smart money is on Hal... but since the Timmverse Justice League did so well, they might want to go for John Stewart.....

triplet

09-15-2007, 02:11 AM

http://www.supermantv.net/messageboard/smilies/unsure.gif "Hmmm!"you may be on to something there. http://www.supermantv.net/messageboard/smilies/smile.gif

Yeah, I think the DG site is updated more frequently, weekly as opposed to bi-monthly, but I haven't been following them that closely.

Maybe I will follow them closer from now on.

:ninja:

Lighthouse

09-15-2007, 03:58 AM

I'm really against the idea of someone else playing Batman besides Bale, but if its Gosling, I just might be able to live with it. Gosling's work in Half Nelson made me think I was watching a new DeNiro emerging onto the hollywood playing field. I know some people didn't like Half Nelson, but god, Gosling really impressed the hell out of me.

So they are pulling a Singer to find a guy that can look like the best actor in the role eh ?

I'm not trying to be offensive Caboose, but in my opinion, this couldn't be further from the truth. Honestly I don't think he looks much like Bale, and I'm really glad that he doesn't. If George Miller is worth his salt, which I think he is, he will not make Gosling model his Batman after Bale's. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Bale's Batman, I think its probably the best on screen. But Gosling is not Bale, just like Roger Moore is not Sean Connery. Different people have to bring their own character to the role, or you get what I felt was a problem with Superman Returns, with Routh channeling Christopher Reeve.

Gosling, while not a movie star, has become a highly respected actor, and he really deserves that respect. If he somehow lands the Batman role, we are all really really lucky.

jayskate

09-15-2007, 07:08 AM

I watched Ryan Gosling in Fracture and I agree , I thought he was really good in it . I think Ryan would be a great ' Bats ' , with Tom as Superman of course .

AgentPat

09-15-2007, 09:55 AM

Now, it's only a 4 day difference but could that mean things are moving Tom's way?

...I wonder if they're looking to wrap things up sooner so that Tom can get down to Sidney in time to pull on the tights for the big screen?I don't think SV as a show production dates would be affected by Welling leaving early. HIS schedule yes, but the dates of production, I don't think so. For the really big stuff, I'd imagine locations and studio time has already been booked if not also paid for. Welling could leave early - and they'd have to juggle schedules in order to allow that - but I don't think that would cause actual production of the show to end earlier. Not if they're still shooting the same amount of episodes anyway.

"But I've been wrong before." :D

Gosling's work in Half Nelson made me think I was watching a new DeNiro emerging onto the hollywood playing field.http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wow2.gif

Well allrighty then. I'm sold. :up:

...If George Miller is worth his salt, which I think he is, he will not make Gosling model his Batman after Bale's. ...Different people have to bring their own character to the role.Well said!! I totally agree!

triplet

09-15-2007, 11:08 AM

Gosling, while not a movie star, has become a highly respected actor, and he really deserves that respect. If he somehow lands the Batman role, we are all really really lucky.

Quoted for Truth.

:up:

I don't think SV as a show production dates would be affected by Welling leaving early. HIS schedule yes, but the dates of production, I don't think so. For the really big stuff, I'd imagine locations and studio time has already been booked if not also paid for. Welling could leave early - and they'd have to juggle schedules in order to allow that - but I don't think that would cause actual production of the show to end earlier. Not if they're still shooting the same amount of episodes anyway.

"But I've been wrong before." :D

Tom is the lead man in so many ways, and if this is the last season, then wouldn't he be in like almost every minute of the final episode?

They might have to speed things up... Or at least that was my thought.

It could be a mistake. One guild simply has the end date wrong or maybe the 4 days difference don't mean diddly, but it just got me thinking about why there was a four day difference.

Sometimes I overthink things, so take it for what it's worth.

AgentPat

09-15-2007, 11:26 AM

Tom is the lead man in so many ways, and if this is the last season, then wouldn't he be in like almost every minute of the final episode?HAH! One would HOPE. But that isn't what they do on this show anymore. They just need Welling off screen all the time so he can help everybody else. [/cynicism]

They might have to speed things up... Or at least that was my thought.In essence, yes, but just like you can't fit ten pounds of stuff in a five pound bag, there's only so much they can do with the time they have. And I'm sure the union has rules about having actors work through holidays and stuff.

It could be a mistake. One guild simply has the end date wrong or maybe the 4 days difference don't mean diddly, but it just got me thinking about why there was a four day difference.Yeah. Still though, even if they did shorten the production sked, four days aint a hell whole of a lot of time in the grand scheme of things.

Sometimes I overthink things, so take it for what it's worth.Hah! When it comes to overanalyzing a situation, you're in good company. :D :up:

GreenKToo

09-15-2007, 11:57 AM

I'm really against the idea of someone else playing Batman besides Bale, but if its Gosling, I just might be able to live with it. Gosling's work in Half Nelson made me think I was watching a new DeNiro emerging onto the hollywood playing field. I know some people didn't like Half Nelson, but god, Gosling really impressed the hell out of me.

I'm not trying to be offensive Caboose, but in my opinion, this couldn't be further from the truth. Honestly I don't think he looks much like Bale, and I'm really glad that he doesn't. If George Miller is worth his salt, which I think he is, he will not make Gosling model his Batman after Bale's. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Bale's Batman, I think its probably the best on screen. But Gosling is not Bale, just like Roger Moore is not Sean Connery. Different people have to bring their own character to the role, or you get what I felt was a problem with Superman Returns, with Routh channeling Christopher Reeve.

Gosling, while not a movie star, has become a highly respected actor, and he really deserves that respect. If he somehow lands the Batman role, we are all really really lucky.
I havent saw any of his work but, just judging him from the pic, i'm not feeling it.
I'll keep an open mind about him though, he could be great.

Tomwelling4sups

09-16-2007, 01:30 AM

Artist Leno Carvalho's Superman looks A LOT like Tom Welling :D

http://www.comiconart.com/images/2007/0905_M/LC_ActionSample1B.jpg

http://www.comiconart.com/images/2007/0905_M/LC_ActionSample3B.jpg

http://www.comiconart.com/images/2007/0905_M/LC_ActionSample4B.jpg

http://www.comiconart.com/images/2007/0905_M/LC_ActionSample5B.jpg

more of his work can be seen here: http://www.comiconart.com/LenoCarvalho.html

AgentPat

09-16-2007, 01:42 AM

Artist Leno Carvalho's Superman looks A LOT like Tom Welling :D

http://www.comiconart.com/images/2007/0905_M/LC_ActionSample3B.jpg

more of his work can be seen here: http://www.comiconart.com/LenoCarvalho.htmlHey, nice find! ^ This one is pretty darn close.

Kal-El 8

09-16-2007, 01:43 AM

sunflowercyn

09-16-2007, 02:12 AM

Quoted for Truth.

:up:

Tom is the lead man in so many ways, and if this is the last season, then wouldn't he be in like almost every minute of the final episode?

They might have to speed things up... Or at least that was my thought.

It could be a mistake. One guild simply has the end date wrong or maybe the 4 days difference don't mean diddly, but it just got me thinking about why there was a four day difference.

Sometimes I overthink things, so take it for what it's worth.

Hey Trip...

I've saving copies fo the PDF's of the DG weekly releases since June 29 when SV was on the production lists and Smallville had these dates listed:

July 9 2007 - April 12 2008

These dates have been listed EVERY week since June 29th.

I'm still pimping for TW though to be in JLA:)

Oh and the reason why the DG and the IASTE lists are different because the IASTE workers cover all kinds of jobs including labourers who would be doing "tear downs" etc. This past April the wardrobe department was busy doing a "sale" of SV clothes to the public that the show didn't want anymore....that went on 4 days after production officially ended.