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avidreader
09-11-2007, 08:23 PM
I was trying to post the Lex Luthor Card (from the smallville dvd website .)

Maybe you could just post the link. :yay:

The Caped Knight
09-29-2007, 05:04 PM
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I like that finally Rosenbaum is now in second place in the opening credits . It should've been that way from since the beginning of the series . Because he's the core of this show and what keeps it together with every Outstanding preformance he has giving over the past 6 years as Lex Luthor. Much more than Welling as Clark .

LadyVader
09-29-2007, 05:09 PM
Here here. I wish he could move to bigger better things after the show is over cause Lord knows he deserves it.

TWistim
09-29-2007, 06:22 PM
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I like that finally Rosenbaum is now in second place in the opening credits . It should've been that way from since the beginning of the series . Because he's the core of this show and what keeps it together with every Outstanding preformance he has giving over the past 6 years as Lex Luthor. Much more than Welling as Clark .

Hey, I like Micheal and think he's done a fantastic job portraying Lex Luthor (my favorite) but no way is he the core of this show.

The Caped Knight
09-29-2007, 07:06 PM
Hey, I like Micheal and think he's done a fantastic job portraying Lex Luthor (my favorite) but no way is he the core of this show.

That's because your a Welling fan :woot: j/k

IMO even thought this series is called SMALLVILLE, and it tells their own Backstory on Clark Kent's life before becoming SUPERMAN . Out of all The releated Superman characters (Pre-Lois Lane's Arrival) . Lex Luthor is the only one that had a soild story arc from since the very Beginning that just keeps moving him closer towards The Man he's Destined to become in Metropolis as well as Superman number 1 Arch-Nemesis .

This series strongest points are The Clark Kent & Lex Luthor relationship, The Father & son realtionship between Lionel & Lex and of course The Journey of Lex Luthor to The Dark Side .

Clark spent 6 years running from his Destiny, While Lex Spent 6 years Embracing his Destiny .

avidreader
09-29-2007, 07:29 PM
Clark spent 6 years runing from his Destiny, While Lex Spent 6 years Embracing his Destiny .

I think I'd have to argue that. Lex has been fighting his destiny for almost 6 years as well, but he eventually gave into it because the rewards that were offered to him were more appealing than the struggles of fighting it. He used the power that he possesses to achieve all of this.

Clark on the other hand has struggled to be who he wants to be despite what others have in mind for him, by not surrendering his morals and beliefs and taking advantage of the power that he possesses.

AgentPat
09-29-2007, 07:36 PM
I'd argue Lex *never* embraces his "destiny." He doesn't realize what he's doing is wrong. He feels everything he does is for a greater good. In that way, he will never acknowledge his true destiny, only what he THINKS is his destiny. The two aren't the same.

Clark on the other hand has been building towards his destiny all along. His destiny is exactly what he makes it to be, and it is in fact what others see him as, now and in the future: a savior and protector.

The Caped Knight
09-29-2007, 07:38 PM
I think I'd have to argue that. Lex has been fighting his destiny for almost 6 years as well, but he eventually gave into it because the rewards that were offered to him were more appealing than the struggles of fighting it. He used the power that he possesses to achieve all of this.

Clark on the other hand has struggled to be who he wants to be despite what others have in mind for him, by not surrendering his morals and beliefs and taking advantage of the power that he possesses.

Ok prehaps I should rephase what I said . Here my new version .

Clark's spend 6 years running from his Destiny, While Lex continued down the Dark path towards the Dark side .

Everytime Clark seems to make progress forward towards his Destiny in one episode . By The next episode he's back to moving 10 steps backwards away from his Destiny .

While Lex just keeps going forward . Never Once during the past 6 years , have I seen Lex move backwards .(Not even when he was in a serious relationship with Lana. Lex was still in compleate Control . Not like lana's in control with her relationship with Clark .)

avidreader
09-29-2007, 07:44 PM
Ok prehaps I should rephase what I said . Here my new version .

Clark's spend 6 years running from his Destiny, While Lex continued down the Dark path towards the Dark side .

Fair enough.

Everytime Clark seems to make progress forward towards his Destiny in one episode . By The next episode he's back to moving 10 steps backwards away from his Destiny .

Clark's not running away from being a hero, which is what I think you mean by destiny.

What he does struggle with is how to put all of his sides together. In the future, he couldnt have a relationship with Lois if he only saw himself as Kal-el or Superman. He needs to human, kryptonian and hero in order to maintain the person that he's going to be.

While Lex just keeps going forward .

Well in Bizarro there was a pretty clear indication that he's going to go back for a while too. He also said to Clark in Bound (Season 4) that he struggles every day to not be the person that he know's he is. Or something to that effect, but you get my drift. ;)

Serene
09-29-2007, 08:00 PM
Hey, I like Micheal and think he's done a fantastic job portraying Lex Luthor (my favorite) but no way is he the core of this show.

Totally agree. I adore Michael and his Lex, but I think that he's often overrated, particularly when people compare him to Tom. Wasn't it John Glover who made the comment about how much easier it is to play the "bad guy" than the good guy, and his walk in Tom's shoes in Transference really emphasized that to him.

Lex is awesome, we're lucky to have such a wonderful actor as OUR Lex Luthor on this show, but he's not the focus of this story, he's just a really big secondary piece.

The Caped Knight
09-29-2007, 09:01 PM
Fair enough.

That's Good enough for me .



Clark's not running away from being a hero, which is what I think you mean by destiny.

What he does struggle with is how to put all of his sides together. In the future, he couldnt have a relationship with Lois if he only saw himself as Kal-el or Superman. He needs to be both people in order to maintain the person that he's going to be.

Season 4 "Run" - "Maybe I should stop running from who I am"

Season 6 "Fallout" - "For the first time, I’m ready to stop running from who I really am, from my destiny.”

Season 7 "Bizarro" - "all the time I've spent ignoring my destiny, trying to be something I'll never be... human."

He's been Running away from since

("The pilot", When Jonathan first reveal to him the truth about his origin.)

(Then he ran even farther when he discovered the Kawatche Caves & learned about the drawings,The prophesies forshadowing his future in "Skinwalker".)

(He really shifted into Turbo after Dr. Swann opened him up a little bit of his Kryptonian Heritage & he saw the message left by his father Jor-EL in his ship In "Rosetta".)

(He pushed himself into overdrive in "Calling" & In "Exodus" He actually leaves and sends himself into "Exile")

(He continues to Run in "Legacy", So Jor-EL Decides to take matter into his own hands and get his son himself in "Covenant")

(While re-programed as a True Kryptonian , Kal-EL actually obey's his Father and begins a Quest "Crusade", When Clark returns to his normal self he begins to question his father Jonathan that maybe he should just stop "Running" and accept his fate "Run" . The Crystal Quest was only important to him when he was traped in Lionel's body due to the water crystal in "Transference". The Events in "Spell" again cause Clark to get back on track focused on finding the third crystal before in fell into the wrong hands . Because Clark didn't listen to Jor-EL's warning in "Scared" a second Meteor Shower happends bringing Big Trouble with it in "Commencement")

(You'd Think the events of "Arrival" would be more than enough of a wake up call for Clark to get serious about his Destiny . Nope and because of his disobedence , he was transformed into a normal human being in "Mortal" . Then got shot, Died , And was resurrected in "Hidden". Again you'd think after Brainiac tried to manipulate Clark into not only Destorying The Fortress Of Solitude, but to become the vessel of General Zod and destory Earth. He'd get his priorities straight in "Solitude" nah . The Day Of "Reckoning" happend, his earthly Father Jonathan Kent died . But it still wasn't enough of a reason for Clark to accept his Destiny . Good Grief Even When Jonathan told him What his Destiny was in "Void", He still didn't get with The program . And because of that in "Oracle" & "Vessel" General Zod escaped The Phantom zone and inhabits the body of Lex Luthor, And Clark's banished to The Phantom Zone .)

(I'll admit just like The Martian Manhunter did. When Clark escaped The Phantom Zone in "Zod" And saw he had released a lot . He made it his presonal Mission to either send them back or kill them "Wither", "fallout" , "Static" , "Labyrinth", "Combat" & "Phantom" . For The first time Clark actually took some serious intrest in his Destiny and showed great maturity . Also thanks to Oliver Queen/Green Arrow, He opened Clark's eyes up to the fact with his amazing powers he could actually make a huge difference in the world, if he'd get up off his ass . "Arrow", "Reunion", "Rage", & "Justice" I just wish it lasted longer .)

Hopefully Season 7 he will .

(He off to a good start so far in "Bizarro" )


Well in Bizarro there was a pretty clear indication that he's going to go back for a while too.

His Obsession with Kara Kent will bring him back full circle (Back to the old days when Clark & Lex were Best Friends, but at the same time was researching him) Which is what he'll probably do the same with Kara .

TWistim
09-29-2007, 10:11 PM
That's because your a Welling fan :woot: j/k

You noticed. :yay:

You make some really great points. And I agree that Clark has been running from his destiny (a necessary plot device to keep the series running) but so has Lex. But that's the thing about destiny - You really can't run from it forever. I think season 6 was a turning point for Clark and Lex; season 7 could be the culmination. I can't wait to see Clark fully accept his destiny as Superman!!! "Bizarro" IMO certainly foreshadowed good things to come. Hallefreakinlujah!

(I can't wait to see Tom accept his destiny either!) :cwink:

ariellem
09-29-2007, 10:29 PM
You make some really great points. And I agree that Clark has been running from his destiny ... but so has Lex. But that's the thing about destiny - You really can't run from it forever.

Yes, thanks for collecting the destiny quotes.

Interesting thing about Clark's "destiny": it's fluid. At first, he thought it was to rule Earth (his misunderstanding and why he ran in the first place). He thought he was alone. He didn't, and doesn't, want to leave his family and friends and humanity behind. Eventually - and very recently - Jor-El admitted to Martha, "His destiny is now his own." This was touched upon in other scenes too. His new destiny - as he has rewritten it - is to save Earth and its inhabitants without losing his close connection with humans. At the same time, he is no longer insisting on working alone - he has started teaming up with various others to fight for what he stands for everywhere.

As for Lex - his original destiny was to be trained by his father to be a ruthless capitalist and to inherit Luthorcorp etc. someday WAY down the line. He was afraid and just wanted a "normal" relationship with his dad and a happy life with his parents. We know what happened to Lil(l?)ian and Julian. Then the first meteor shower really put Lex and Lionel's relationship on ice. Lex too has tried to reshape his destiny; he first wanted to show up his dad, and now wants to show up his dad, Clark, and anyone else who doesn't see things the way he does. He wants to be President; he wants to control it all. His ultimate destiny as we, the viewers/fans know it, is to be as evil and ruthless and greedy as Clark is good, selfless, and generous. So you could say for Lex as well as for Clark that "his destiny is now his own."

Both took what their fathers saw and wanted for them and changed that destiny to better suit their core values and desires.

The Caped Knight
09-29-2007, 11:42 PM
^ Speaking about Father's Two points I'll like to make .

1. i Think Lionel's time is up this season, Lex is going to kill him

2. The many points you made about The Fathers (Jor-EL, Jonathan Kent & Lionel Luthor) trying to decide the Destines of their kids . You Could add General Sam Lane too. (since he tried to decide a course of his two Daughters) Lucy & Lois . Lucy to be the Grade A+ Student , to find a good job etc.... & Lois to be his solider . However "Fate" has other plans . As we all Know Lois Lane Destiny is far greater than Sam knows and finally she's coming full circle into The Woman , she destined to become . (And a lot of this has to do with Jonathan & Martha ,Which is a nice twisted smallville's made .)



I like how the writter have made Lois, Clark, & Lex's journey much more intwine than they realize . Just like their Destinies .

The Joker_1000
09-29-2007, 11:46 PM
Rosenbaum is definitely the best Lex Luthor in all of the media.

ariellem
09-30-2007, 12:04 AM
^ Speaking about Father's Two points I'll like to make .

1. i Think Lionel's time is up this season, Lex is going to kill him

2. The many points you made about The Fathers (Jor-EL, Jonathan Kent & Lionel Luthor) trying to decide the Destines of their kids . You Could add General Sam Lane too. (since he tried to decide a course of his two Daughters) Lucy & Lois . Lucy to be the Grade A+ Student , to find a good job etc.... & Lois to be his solider . However "Fate" has other plans . A as we all Know Lois Lane Destiny is far greater than Sam knows and finally she coming full circle into The Woman , she destined to become .

Agree about Lionel, though I'd hate to lose him. I hope he goes out protecting Martha (or Martha AND Clark) so Martha doesn't have to feel guilty about having a thing for him.


I like how the writter have made Lois, Clark, & Lex's journey much more intwine than they realize . Just like their Destinies .

Good addition - hadn't thought about Lois & Lucy. They certainly have gotten out from under Daddy.

Back to Clark - he has stuck pretty well with Jonathan's overall hopes for him (to help people) but we know he'll be "keeping his secret" in the future in a very different way than Jonathan had hoped or expected. We need some Jonathan guest spots (flashbacks, dreams, whatever).

Lana - AFAIK, she is free of parental destinies. Please remind me if I've overlooked one.

Chloe - no specific destiny insisted on by a parent AFAIK, though her mother did/does want her to be independent and did/does admire her "cub reporter" status.

Pete - well, we need Pete to come back and visit. Let us know how his folks are doing & whether he's still with his mom or out on his own. Fun way to do this: have Bart run into him wherever he's living; Clark gets mentioned somehow; Bart brings Pete to the barn for a visit.

Jimmy - has he even talked about his parents? I have a vague memory of some comment about his dad, maybe, but that's all.

Back to Lex - big question is how he'll kill Lionel: accidentally, accidentally-on-purpose (ie. Lex was attacking someone but didn't necessarily mean to kill his dad), or flat-out premeditated.

The Caped Knight
09-30-2007, 12:04 AM
Well would you look at this (The pic at the bottom of Lex Luthor in the business suit looks almost if not excatly like Michael Rosenbaum.) And look here Lionel Luthor is now the official name of Lex Luthor's father in the comics . Nice going Smallville :woot:

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/smsvmos/RacerX-Countdown34-p23.jpg

ariellem
09-30-2007, 12:08 AM
Nice that they used "Lionel" - but why is Mom "Letitia" instead of "Lil(l?)ian" if they're trying to use SV continuity?

The Caped Knight
09-30-2007, 12:14 AM
Nice that they used "Lionel" - but why is Mom "Letitia" instead of "Lil(l?)ian" if they're trying to use SV continuity?

I don't know ? To be honest I prefer the name Lillian Luthor over Letitia Luthor . :csad:

ariellem
09-30-2007, 12:25 AM
I prefer "Lillian" by a lot as well. Maybe she's more of a socialite and less of a worried mom in the current comics.

The Caped Knight
09-30-2007, 01:02 AM
Prehaps, All I know is not much is actually ever known about Lex mother in the comics . Only that Lex killed his parents to get their money and start building up his Empire LexCorp in Metropolis .

avidreader
09-30-2007, 11:07 AM
You noticed. :yay:

You make some really great points. And I agree that Clark has been running from his destiny (a necessary plot device to keep the series running) but so has Lex. But that's the thing about destiny - You really can't run from it forever. I think season 6 was a turning point for Clark and Lex; season 7 could be the culmination. I can't wait to see Clark fully accept his destiny as Superman!!! "Bizarro" IMO certainly foreshadowed good things to come. Hallefreakinlujah!

(I can't wait to see Tom accept his destiny either!) :cwink:

Yes, thanks for collecting the destiny quotes.

Interesting thing about Clark's "destiny": it's fluid. At first, he thought it was to rule Earth (his misunderstanding and why he ran in the first place). He thought he was alone. He didn't, and doesn't, want to leave his family and friends and humanity behind. Eventually - and very recently - Jor-El admitted to Martha, "His destiny is now his own." This was touched upon in other scenes too. His new destiny - as he has rewritten it - is to save Earth and its inhabitants without losing his close connection with humans. At the same time, he is no longer insisting on working alone - he has started teaming up with various others to fight for what he stands for everywhere.

As for Lex - his original destiny was to be trained by his father to be a ruthless capitalist and to inherit Luthorcorp etc. someday WAY down the line. He was afraid and just wanted a "normal" relationship with his dad and a happy life with his parents. We know what happened to Lil(l?)ian and Julian. Then the first meteor shower really put Lex and Lionel's relationship on ice. Lex too has tried to reshape his destiny; he first wanted to show up his dad, and now wants to show up his dad, Clark, and anyone else who doesn't see things the way he does. He wants to be President; he wants to control it all. His ultimate destiny as we, the viewers/fans know it, is to be as evil and ruthless and greedy as Clark is good, selfless, and generous. So you could say for Lex as well as for Clark that "his destiny is now his own."

Both took what their fathers saw and wanted for them and changed that destiny to better suit their core values and desires.

It's so great to have some fresh blood in here to point out these themes within the show.

Kal made some comments that I would have liked to answer, maybe a year ago I would have, :O, but I feel like I'm singing the same ol' song, so its fun to have new posters in here who see and say things differently.

:up:

The Caped Knight
10-19-2007, 08:51 AM
JLU #38,
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Look VERY carefully at the billboard.

The Caped Knight
01-05-2008, 12:14 PM
http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Lex_Luthor

PJBoy
01-27-2008, 10:55 PM
From Superman Home Page:

Superman fan Brett Bishop emailed the Superman Homepage to let us know that he managed to catch a quick word with Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor on "Smallville") at the Sundance Film Festival a week ago, and asked him a few questions about "Smallville" and what the situation was with the writer's strike and Season 8. Here's what Brett had to say...

So my friend Joe and I were outside the Entertainment Weekly party and we saw Michael Rosenbaum! I immediately walked up to him and asked him for a picture. He was really one of the nicest celebs I've met and he responded with a warm and excited, "Sure!". We told him we loved him and Chloe on the show. He replied with, "Ah, thanks." So I asked him some questions and I'll write it like this to make it easier:

Q: So what are you going to do with the show because of the writer's strike?

Michael: Oh, we have five episodes or so to go so...

Q: Well I heard this is your last season? Are you coming back since this season was so short or are you done?

Michael: (takes a second to think of how to word this.) Eh... We're getting close.

[His hesitation seriously made it sound like the series is coming to an end but that was my take and you can speculate what you will. Then I asked...]

Q: Will you do me a favor and tell Tom he has to wear the suit in the last episode of the series?

Michael: (laughs) I keep telling him that.

Q: And he keeps saying no?

Michael: (laughs) Yeah but we'll see.

Q: It's his obligation.

He just laughed and I thanked him for his time since he was heading into the party. He was really nice and was a great guy.

Mikelus
01-27-2008, 11:51 PM
Thanks PJ for posting it, Michael kind of confirmed that it could be his last season. I guess he could come back as a guest star in Season 8, specially if S7 ends being short cause of the strike.

mellyM
01-28-2008, 06:02 AM
Thanks PJ for posting it, Michael kind of confirmed that it could be his last season. I guess he could come back as a guest star in Season 8, specially if S7 ends being short cause of the strike.
Sounds more like he's not so sure if he's leaving, since in the past he had no problem saying this was his last season.

Mikelus
01-28-2008, 02:06 PM
Michael wants to move on, but it depends on how S7 ends, if the strike is over soon, SV will be able to produce more episodes and maybe "close" Lex's storyline, but if the season ends with Veritas, I'm not sure Lex's arc will be done yet, so he should be back for some episodes in S8, we'll see.

The Caped Knight
01-31-2008, 02:13 AM
No More “Smallville” for Michael Rosenbaum?
Michael Rosenbaum, who plays Lex Luthor on "Smallville", has made an interesting comment during a video segment with Young Hollywood.

Rosenbaum finishes off the video segment telling fans to watch "Smallville" but adds, "For only a couple more months, because then I'm done".

Does this mean "Smallville" won't be returning for an 8th season? Or does it simply mean that Rosenbaum himself won't be returning once season 7 is done? Stay tuned!

http://www.younghollywood.com/fashion.php?videoID=1397797659

Ultimate_Superman
01-31-2008, 07:24 AM
Thats what I wonder. IMO if there is another Superman movie be it a sequel to SR or just a reboot then do we really need another season of SV? I mean the only way I see us needing another season is if they plain on putting Tom in the suit for more then 1 min (example Star Wars III Darth Vader).

StorminNorman
01-31-2008, 09:46 AM
To have a Season of Smallville without Michael Rosenbaum is - well - stupid.

Taking away heads and tales the best piece of the Smallville puzzle leaves you with a show not fit for TV.

triplet
01-31-2008, 10:18 AM
I think Michael is stupid for leaving early. He won't have a career after Smallville unless he does a helluva lot better job picking projects in the future.

He should stay with Smallville and get a regular paycheck as long as possible... He may not ever have it as good again.

The Caped Knight
01-31-2008, 10:55 AM
I really don't blame the guy for wanting out . After 7 years straight with the same old Bull**** with nothing changing . I'd leave too.

avidreader
01-31-2008, 10:55 AM
I think Michael is stupid for leaving early. He won't have a career after Smallville unless he does a helluva lot better job picking projects in the future.

He should stay with Smallville and get a regular paycheck as long as possible... He may not ever have it as good again.

Yeah, I agree trip, and I still think Smallville can survive without him. He's barely in it any more anyway.

triplet
01-31-2008, 12:00 PM
Yeah, I agree trip, and I still think Smallville can survive without him. He's barely in it any more anyway.

Yeah, sad but true.

He's going to be like whathisname Caruso that left NYPD Blue and had a less than a sucessful feature career and is now back on TV in CSI Miami.

Michael clearly isn't as versatile an actor as he seems to think he is... The comedic roles he's chosen to do have never seemed to turn out.

Too bad, I like him, but either he's got to pick better projects or stick to what he's shown he's good at: villainous dramatic roles.

Mikelus
01-31-2008, 12:01 PM
Michael is great, but if he wants out, I respect it. SV can go on without him, they can bring other enemies and refresh the whole thing a bit.

LostSon88
02-06-2008, 09:07 PM
If Episode 15 is to be Lex Luthor's last...it damn well better deliver!!!

StorminNorman
02-23-2008, 03:55 PM
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The Incredible Hulk
02-23-2008, 10:36 PM
I still love the part with him on the treadmill in high heels :D

ariellem
02-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Y19cTWJ9cXY

LMAO at this one, particularly the end.

Serene
02-24-2008, 12:10 AM
"Bobo Eckstein and Tom Swelling in I Love my Weiner"

I WANT TO SEE THAT MOVIE!

:D

ariellem
02-24-2008, 12:29 AM
I'm surprised MR didn't name himself "Mickey Rosenballs" or "Rosenbum" or some such. Maybe too obvious.

triplet
02-25-2008, 05:30 AM
"Bobo Eckstein and Tom Swelling in I Love my Weiner"

I WANT TO SEE THAT MOVIE!

:D

*snort*

I'd go see it... ;)

Now, for something completely different. This is all a guess, apparently, based on who Michael's recently been seen having lunch with, but could he be the next Freddy Krueger?

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Michael-Rosenbaum-As-The-New-Freddy-Krueger-7948.html

by Josh Tyler: 2008-02-25 02:58:02

I’m going to say up front that as rumors go, this one is a bit sketchy. But it’s an interesting notion, and in the interests of reporting everything we get our hands on unfiltered, here it is.

Tonight I got an email from a friend of the site who says she was lucky enough to spot Smallville star Michael Rosenbaum out and about lunching with Michael Bay in Hollywood this past weekend. Now they could be out having some sort of secret gay affair I suppose, or maybe they’re secret BFFs, but our source seems to think that they were talking business, and that their business may have been Michael Bay’s reboot of the classic horror movie Nightmare on Elm Street. And here’s where the speculation gets really unsubstantiated and crazy… our source guesses that this could mean Rosenbaum is up for the role of young Freddy Krueger, since Bay will need one to fill Robert Englund’s shoes.

However, Michael Bay has a lot of pokers in the fire and they could have really been talking about anything. Maybe he wants him to voice a robot in Transformers 2. But Rosenbaum is about the right age to put on the claws and play Freddy in a reboot, and for some weird reason it’s easy to picture him actually excelling at the role. He’d never be Robert Englund, but Rosenbaum actually might not be half bad.

Oddly enough, Rosenbaum has actually worked with the original Freddy Krueger, Robert Englund before. In 1998 they both appeared in Urban Legend.

For now it’s all wild conjecture, but Bay and Rosenbaum are definitely up to something, and I seriously doubt it has anything to do with Smallville or buying matching charm bracelets.

The Incredible Hulk
02-25-2008, 08:32 AM
heh, maybe Bay's gonna take another shot at the Superman franchise :D

triplet
02-25-2008, 09:01 AM
heh, maybe Bay's gonna take another shot at the Superman franchise :D

I wonder if Rosie would be willing to sign up to shave his head for a feature if he were Lex Luthor to Tom's Superman.

That'd rock!

:up:

Unfortunately, it was probably Bay sweet talking Rosie to do a voice for Trans 2, although if he were to do a reboot of the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise I'd probably go see it. He does crazy-intense pretty well.

Serene
02-25-2008, 04:20 PM
I wonder if Rosie would be willing to sign up to shave his head for a feature if he were Lex Luthor to Tom's Superman.

That'd rock!

:up:

QFT!

Kind of a pipe dream, but dreams are good.


Unfortunately, it was probably Bay sweet talking Rosie to do a voice for Trans 2, although if he were to do a reboot of the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise I'd probably go see it. He does crazy-intense pretty well.

But would you need a private lunch with someone to talk about voicing an animated character?

I don't really see how Rosey could play a young Freddie Krueger when he's not exactly a spring chicken - he's 35 years old (I think).

Nah. I'm voting for something else. :D

bootspark
02-26-2008, 07:27 PM
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=4942

"Director Jonathan Williams informs us cameras will roll in April on House of Eternity. Queensryche's Geoff Tate and Candice Night of Blackmore's Night topline this supernatural horror flick co-starring Michael Rosenbaum ("Smallville"), Omar Gooding, Lenny Venito ("The Sopranos") and Robert Costanzo."

Soo.....now Rosey and Kristin are both doing movies in April. What does this mean for Smallville??

Mikelus
02-26-2008, 09:00 PM
^ Smallville will resume filming in mid-March according to the K-Site webmaster. So, unless Michael is absent from a couple of episodes or does both at the same time, seems complicated enough.

mellyM
02-27-2008, 05:38 AM
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=4942



Soo.....now Rosey and Kristin are both doing movies in April. What does this mean for Smallville??

He needs to pick better movies

The Incredible Hulk
02-27-2008, 08:02 AM
depends on where the movie is being filmed. If its in vancouver, he'll do what Welling did during the Fog and pull double duty...

Super_Ludacris
02-27-2008, 08:06 AM
Rosenbaum has been so saying for something like 2 to 3 years that he would be finish with the show when his contract runs out after Season 7. So its really not a suprise at all.

The Caped Knight
04-30-2008, 09:27 AM
So far this season Rosenbaum's best episode is "Descent", if this is truly Rosenbaum's last season . He sure went out with a bang in that episode .

smsvmos
05-03-2008, 10:26 AM
You Guys Should Go Check The Interview That Superman Homepage Did To Michael. It Was Good And Basicly He Says That He Is Not Coming Back For Season 8 And That His Last Episode Of Smallville Was The Season Finale Of Season 7. So Thats It For Michael :( Im So Sad

Prison Mike
05-03-2008, 11:07 AM
So I guess Michael is really not coming back for an episode or two for season 8. He's really leaving for good. It makes sense though because if he were to come back for an episode or two, his hair wouldn't grow back for like 3 months. Then he wouldn't be able to do other work. Now it's starting to sink in and both Lex and Lionel are really gone. No more Luthors. :csad:

TWistim
05-03-2008, 11:21 AM
So I guess Michael is really not coming back for an episode or two for season 8. He's really leaving for good. It makes sense though because if he were to come back for an episode or two, his hair wouldn't grow back for like 3 months. Then he wouldn't be able to do other work. Now it's starting to sink in and both Lex and Lionel are really gone. No more Luthors. :csad:

That door is not completely closed. He won't be a regular (not under contract for x number of episodes as they had hoped) but it doesn't mean he couldn't return for a 1-2 episode arc. The way they worded their announcement seems to say they have not ruled that possibility out.

"While Michael won’t be a series regular and we won’t have the pleasure of working with him on a weekly basis this fall, we like to think that we haven’t seen the last of Lex Luthor. Stay tuned."

Source: K-site

The Caped Knight
05-03-2008, 11:39 AM
He Better be their in the series finale at least .

Prison Mike
05-03-2008, 12:37 PM
That door is not completely closed. He won't be a regular (not under contract for x number of episodes as they had hoped) but it doesn't mean he couldn't return for a 1-2 episode arc. The way they worded their announcement seems to say they have not ruled that possibility out.



Source: K-site

But in the interview with supermanhomepage he pretty much said he won't be coming back. He doesn't want to shave his head for only 1 or 2 episodes and then wait for his hair to grow back 3 months later. I think he's really gone, as in, he won't be returning at all.

TWistim
05-04-2008, 08:06 AM
But in the interview with supermanhomepage he pretty much said he won't be coming back. He doesn't want to shave his head for only 1 or 2 episodes and then wait for his hair to grow back 3 months later. I think he's really gone, as in, he won't be returning at all.

He did sound pretty final but in Hollywood no doesn't always mean no. I guess a lot will depend on if his scripts get sold and if he is keeping busy.

Prison Mike
05-04-2008, 09:13 AM
also, if he wants to shave his head again and could wait 3 months for it to grow back.

Bruce_Wayne29
05-04-2008, 08:44 PM
He always could use the wig...

triplet
05-04-2008, 09:06 PM
He always could use the wig...

The thing is, whenever he's worn a wig it's looked like one in a big way.

It's not a good solution and he's tired of shaving his head.

I don't think he'll do it unless he finds himself with absolutely no prospects for work come the fall, then he will probably consider it.

Bruce_Wayne29
05-05-2008, 09:20 AM
There's another possibility, unlikely but still possible. That they could have filmed a few scenes to be used exclusively in season 8, before he wrapped up. Thus the whole "we have not seen the last of Lex Luthor yet" comment.

mellyM
05-05-2008, 09:46 AM
also, if he wants to shave his head again and could wait 3 months for it to grow back.
I don't see where not having hair was some big hindrance for him, he'd have some nice fuzz going in a week or two, its not like he was playing Samson or something.

Mikelus
05-05-2008, 12:02 PM
^ How sensitive from your part, if Michael feels that way is understandable, seven years of doing the same thing gets tiring at the end. He will be missed, but the show goes on, we'll see how they do without him, is not easy task.

Prison Mike
05-05-2008, 12:14 PM
I don't see where not having hair was some big hindrance for him, he'd have some nice fuzz going in a week or two, its not like he was playing Samson or something.

it would be a big hindrance if he either has his own show or is going out to audition for other tv shows or movies.

triplet
05-05-2008, 12:20 PM
There's another possibility, unlikely but still possible. That they could have filmed a few scenes to be used exclusively in season 8, before he wrapped up. Thus the whole "we have not seen the last of Lex Luthor yet" comment.

I'm thinking he had done that....

But I guess we'll see.

triplet
05-05-2008, 12:23 PM
I don't see where not having hair was some big hindrance for him, he'd have some nice fuzz going in a week or two, its not like he was playing Samson or something.


Actually, I think he's said in interviews that casting directors have told him explicitely that they'd work with him once he grows his hair back in, which takes months to get to any sort of workable length...

mellyM
05-05-2008, 01:50 PM
Actually, I think he's said in interviews that casting directors have told him explicitely that they'd work with him once he grows his hair back in, which takes months to get to any sort of workable length...

yeah, i don't know if I believe him.

triplet
05-05-2008, 10:22 PM
yeah, i don't know if I believe him.

Yeah?

Well, I guess you'd have to take his word for it.

Although, you probably have a point too.

I mean, if he were a desirable enough commodity his short hair shouldn't make any difference, right?

Things to think on.

Prison Mike
05-05-2008, 11:39 PM
He'll only come back if he doesn't find other work I think. He's over Smallville.

RakuMon
11-26-2008, 02:42 PM
Hurm.

Ausiello has some cryptic news about Michael Rosenbaum.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/11/ask-ausiello--3.html?iid=top25-20081126-Ask+Ausiello%3A+Spoilers+on+%2724%2C%27+%27Grey%27 s+Anatomy%2C%27+%27Heroes%2C%27+%27Smallville%2C%2 7+%27House%2C%27+%27Supernatural%2C%27+%27CSI%3A+M iami%2C%27+and+More%21

Question: At the end of "Bride" episode of Smallville we see someone I'm presuming is Lex. Will Michael Rosenbaum be making his return to Smallville anytime soon? -- Gilles
Ausiello: Okay, I have to choose my words carefully here: There is no deal…currently in place…for Michael Rosenbaum to…return...to Smallville.

triplet
11-26-2008, 02:53 PM
Hurm.

Ausiello has some cryptic news about Michael Rosenbaum.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/11/ask-ausiello--3.html?iid=top25-20081126-Ask+Ausiello%3A+Spoilers+on+%2724%2C%27+%27Grey%27 s+Anatomy%2C%27+%27Heroes%2C%27+%27Smallville%2C%2 7+%27House%2C%27+%27Supernatural%2C%27+%27CSI%3A+M iami%2C%27+and+More%21

Question: At the end of "Bride" episode of Smallville we see someone I'm presuming is Lex. Will Michael Rosenbaum be making his return to Smallville anytime soon? -- Gilles
Ausiello: Okay, I have to choose my words carefully here: There is no deal…currently in place…for Michael Rosenbaum to…return...to Smallville.

What the hell does *that* mean?

:confused:

ariellem
11-26-2008, 03:15 PM
He's not saying it IS Lex, but he's not denying it either.

Webhead2006
11-26-2008, 03:25 PM
doesnt really mean anything at this time untill its a signed deal from michael to make an official return to the show. Hopefully the producers can convince him to return for atless one episode.

mercboyz
11-26-2008, 05:27 PM
Hurm.

Ausiello has some cryptic news about Michael Rosenbaum.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/11/ask-ausiello--3.html?iid=top25-20081126-Ask+Ausiello%3A+Spoilers+on+%2724%2C%27+%27Grey%27 s+Anatomy%2C%27+%27Heroes%2C%27+%27Smallville%2C%2 7+%27House%2C%27+%27Supernatural%2C%27+%27CSI%3A+M iami%2C%27+and+More%21

Question: At the end of "Bride" episode of Smallville we see someone I'm presuming is Lex. Will Michael Rosenbaum be making his return to Smallville anytime soon? -- Gilles
Ausiello: Okay, I have to choose my words carefully here: There is no deal…currently in place…for Michael Rosenbaum to…return...to Smallville.

To me it sounds like they are talking to him but don't have anything solid yet. Probably depends on whether or not Smallville is renewed for a 9th season. If its for sure that this will be the last season, then I think he would more likely come back. If it's renewed, who knows? Personally, I don't know if he would come for just one episode since he would have to shave his head again, most likely would have to be a multiple episode deal. I know i read from someone here who linked a quote that Rosenbaum enjoyed having his hair again, didn't miss the daily shavings and that it took him like six months to fully regrow it.

But only rumors and opinions until he signs and is back in front of the camera.

Webhead2006
11-26-2008, 08:39 PM
well really if he is back for just one or two episodes there is many ways to go about not shaving his head.

Syncos
11-26-2008, 08:43 PM
Hurm.

Ausiello has some cryptic news about Michael Rosenbaum.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/11/ask-ausiello--3.html?iid=top25-20081126-Ask+Ausiello%3A+Spoilers+on+%2724%2C%27+%27Grey%27 s+Anatomy%2C%27+%27Heroes%2C%27+%27Smallville%2C%2 7+%27House%2C%27+%27Supernatural%2C%27+%27CSI%3A+M iami%2C%27+and+More%21

Question: At the end of "Bride" episode of Smallville we see someone I'm presuming is Lex. Will Michael Rosenbaum be making his return to Smallville anytime soon? -- Gilles
Ausiello: Okay, I have to choose my words carefully here: There is no deal…currently in place…for Michael Rosenbaum to…return...to Smallville.

What the hell does *that* mean?

:confused:

Hrm. I think it means he wont be returning as a regular...
They've probably got him in talks to do a guest spot or two.

LadyVader
11-27-2008, 12:47 AM
Or Lex will be played by somebody else.

Bim
11-27-2008, 12:12 PM
Or Lex will be played by somebody else.
NOOooOOOooOOOoo! :csad:

Webhead2006
11-27-2008, 01:41 PM
well if they can get michael to return in the flesh but do audio work we will probably see more of this body double used again in future episodes and just hear michael's voice.

Serene
11-27-2008, 11:42 PM
Hrm. I think it means he wont be returning as a regular...
They've probably got him in talks to do a guest spot or two.

I agree.

Man, I hope they work it out. I would just LOVE to see Lex show up in the grand finale'.

The Caped Knight
01-18-2009, 03:20 PM
Rosenbuam Discusses "Batman: The Brave And The Bold" And More,

The World's Finest recently sat down with actor Michael Rosenbaum, a fan-favorite for his work on Smallville and Justice League, to discuss his role as Deadman on Batman: The Brave and The Bold and much more.

Michael Rosenbaum Interview (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/bravebold/backstage/interviews/wfrosenbaum.php)

Webhead2006
01-18-2009, 09:26 PM
saw his episode the other day. Thought he did well as deadman, though loved his work as flash in jl/jlu.

The Caped Knight
01-18-2009, 09:43 PM
Yeah he was good in Batman : The Brave & the Bold as deadman, But their's no deny that after his outstanding portrayal as Lex Luthor on "smallville" for Seven straight Seasons . His next masterpiece was his role as Wally West / The Flash on JL/JLU & kid flash on Teen Titans .

So much so I'd love to see him star as the Scarlet Speedster in live action .

The Caped Knight
02-07-2009, 02:07 PM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5276/wizard209pr6.jpg

badass Lex in his Kryptonite power suit .

Prison Mike
02-07-2009, 02:35 PM
what does that have to do with Michael Rosenbaum?

NotFadeAway
02-07-2009, 03:38 PM
Yeah he was good in Batman : The Brave & the Bold as deadman, But their's no deny that after his outstanding portrayal as Lex Luthor on "smallville" for Seven straight Seasons . His next masterpiece was his role as Wally West / The Flash on JL/JLU & kid flash on Teen Titans .

So much so I'd love to see him star as the Scarlet Speedster in live action .

If he was a bit younger, he would be a great Wally.

Webhead2006
02-07-2009, 08:48 PM
yea really nothing to do with michael lol. Very cool looking power suit lex though for that upcoming game.

Webhead2006
03-17-2009, 01:10 AM
Well it looks like Michael has finally got a nice post smallville role:

http://www.moviehole.net/200918187-the-return-of-lex-luthor
The Return of Lex Luthor!
Author: Clint Morris Date: Monday, March 16th, 2009 Time: 10:04 pm
Former ''Smallville'' star Michael Rosenbaum will star in a new comedy pilot for NBC.

Rosenbaum, better known as bald baddie Lex Luthor on the CW series, will join Nick D'Agosto (TVs "Heroes") for an untitled Justin Adler series which revolves around a grown-up family.

D'Agosto will play the youngest sibling, who brings his girlfriend to meet the family. Rosenbaum will play the married middle sibling freaked out over his recently adopted baby.

With this new gig (should it be picked up) on NBC, it's safe to say Rosenbaum won't be reprising his role as Lex on "Smallville" any time soon - if ever again.

The Hollywood Reporter has more...


I wish him the best of luck with this new show and hope it does go to series. I would love to see him in more work that is non smallville related. I wish him the best with his acting career. Though if this show does go to series i hope he would still be willing to return to smallville next season for series ender like he has stated in the past few months he would be open to doing.

The Incredible Hulk
03-17-2009, 11:38 AM
Moviehole is getting bit a presumptuous about Rosey eveer playing Lex again. You know how many pilots bomb out and never get a series order? I mean Justin Hartley's done 3 pilots since his first Smallville appearance, and none were ever picked up.

mellyM
03-17-2009, 11:43 AM
Moviehole is getting bit a presumptuous about Rosey eveer playing Lex again. You know how many pilots bomb out and never get a series order? I mean Justin Hartley's done 3 pilots since his first Smallville appearance, and none were ever picked up.

and even if it gets picked up for series, people still have to watch it so it won't get canceled quickly. I do wish him well, even though I think he's a better dramatic actor than a comic one.

Bim
03-17-2009, 11:50 AM
I wish Michael the best, i think he's a fine actor. I sure miss him as Lex in Smallville though :csad:

The Caped Knight
03-17-2009, 12:45 PM
I'm very curious to see how tptb are going to handle the character of Lex Luthor on the series (I doubt that he actually died in the episode "Requiem") . Considering this character major important in the superman mythology He's Superman's Arch-Nemesis .

Webhead2006
03-17-2009, 02:52 PM
i still say the lex in the truck was just a clone he had set up in a situation like that.

The Caped Knight
04-17-2009, 08:32 AM
From the Panels to the Screen: Hollywood drawn to comics

Lex Luthor

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4697/galcomiclexluther.jpg

Some pretty big names have donned the bald cap to play Superman's arch-nemesis, the evil Lex Luthor. (From top) Kevin Spacey 9n 'Superman Returns', New York's own Michael Rosenbaum in 'Smallville' and Gene Hackman in 'Superman'.

Credits: DC Comics/WB/Warner Bros.
Published: 04/16/2009 16:10:20

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/galleries/hollywood_drawn_to_comic_books/hollywood_drawn_to_comic_books.html#ph44

04nbod
04-17-2009, 12:22 PM
From the Panels to the Screen: Hollywood drawn to comics

Lex Luthor

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4697/galcomiclexluther.jpg

Some pretty big names have donned the bald cap to play Superman's arch-nemesis, the evil Lex Luthor. (From top) Kevin Spacey 9n 'Superman Returns', New York's own Michael Rosenbaum in 'Smallville' and Gene Hackman in 'Superman'.

Credits: DC Comics/WB/Warner Bros.
Published: 04/16/2009 16:10:20

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/galleries/hollywood_drawn_to_comic_books/hollywood_drawn_to_comic_books.html#ph44

Very nice list but I can't help notice that Robin /Chris O'Donell and Batgirl/Alicia Silverstone are missing yet they remembered Birds of Prey. Seems really lazy to miss out the obvious and keep the obscure ones. Jimmy Olsen isn't there either

Prison Mike
04-17-2009, 02:17 PM
Tom Welling isn't in the Superman one either...

just saw he's in the Superboy one. lol

Serene
04-17-2009, 02:26 PM
Tom Welling isn't in the Superman one either...

just saw he's in the Superboy one. lol

He has a panel all to himself. :)

#43 - Superboy Among Men: Tom Welling plays a younger version of Clark Kent/Superman in the hit WB show, 'Smallville'.

Prison Mike
04-17-2009, 10:16 PM
wasn't there a Superboy tv show in the 80s? they should have put that actor in the panel along with Tom

Bruce_Wayne29
04-20-2009, 10:24 AM
Michael is great. He just recently sent autographs to me, my girlfriend and her father who is also a big fan of the show.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/theartist29/06042009035.jpg

The Caped Knight
09-11-2010, 04:33 PM
This weekend there is a convention called Insurgence Convention in London. Michael Rosenbaum is also there and represents Smallville. A fan was there and here are some snippets:

Wonderful panel & chat session with Michael. When asked about a SV return, he said "We'll see" and indicated that talk is happening. It definitely wasn't a 'no'. More of an 'It's possible...' He also said if he returns, it will be in a bald cap. Michael mentioned again how fond he is of SV cast & crew. Mentioned all the attention he's been getting from Tom lately!

Source: HERE (http://twitter.com/VivianBloom/status/24188047825)

Johnny
09-11-2010, 05:24 PM
Awesome. Hope we finally get a confirmation soon on whether he'll be back or not.

Karelia
09-11-2010, 07:49 PM
Awesome! The only thing that could make me more excited for this season is him coming back. I don't blame him for wearing a bald cap, though. :D

I guess Tom really has been trying to get him back, haha, that's great.

al35077
09-11-2010, 11:40 PM
I just hope the bald cap isnt obviously a fake

smooth3006
09-12-2010, 07:56 AM
im almost 100% that michael will be back at least for the final episode. :awesome:

B
09-12-2010, 09:33 AM
I just hope the bald cap isnt obviously a fake

I'd prefare IF he was to return he shaved his head & did a few episodes, however wearing a bald cap wouldn't be that bad.

Zack Braff wore a bald cap in Scrubs for a few episodes that looked quite realistic.. and he had much thicker & bigger hair than Rosenbaum currently has.

smooth3006
09-20-2010, 05:17 PM
any word yet or will this be a hush, hush type of deal?

John Locke
09-20-2010, 05:35 PM
No word yet and if it is a hush hush deal we wouldn't know it.

SpideyVille
09-22-2010, 01:22 PM
If Michael comes back, I really hope he has a scene with Tess. I remember reading an interview somewhere from around the start of season 8, where he called Cassidy Freeman and was like "This is Lex." And when she called him Michael, he corrected her again and said "No, this is Lex."

smooth3006
09-23-2010, 06:06 PM
no mention of micheal coming back worries me alot. he MUST be in the finale. how many shows have they taped so far and how many are we getting this season?

SpideyVille
09-23-2010, 06:11 PM
I think they're up to 7 or 8, and we should be getting the usual 22, unless they do something with the finale being a two-parter or something. I think it would best be kept a secret so that Michael's return could be a surprise to the viewer, and honestly I would prefer it that way. That's one surprise I don't want to see spoiled.

annie.j88
09-23-2010, 07:16 PM
just as long as it's a good performance and not a half hearted one-i want to see MR there because he wants to be there not because of peer pressure

Dark Raven
09-23-2010, 10:08 PM
I don't know why he doesn't want to shave his head for old time's sake? It's not like he has to do it on such a regular basis as before, especially if it's only for the finale. It will grow back, and if he's being paid money to do it, then why not? I don't know how realistic a bald cap will look.

RAMORE
09-24-2010, 04:28 PM
Oh I hope he's back for like the final 4 episodes at least!

marvelrobbins
09-24-2010, 05:15 PM
I think he will return for the series finale.He might show up at the end of the next to last episode.In the finale Lex needs to publicly return.And set up LexCorp(not Luthorcorp)
and beguin to establish the benelovent businessman In public but ruthless guy In private
who basiclly ruins Metropolas.And he needs to stay In Metropolas.No going back to
Smallville.Of course the bigger question Is how will they deal with Lex knowing Clark's secret.My personal perfernce was something happened to his memory causing him to lose
that knowledge.

annie.j88
09-24-2010, 05:27 PM
i agree.

SpideyVille
09-24-2010, 05:29 PM
I agree, they need to set up Lex's future by the finale. He should create Lexcorp and move back to Metropolis. Though I wouldn't mind Lex knowing his secret if they play it off as he knows Clark is Superman but doesn't tell anybody because he is too prideful and wants to destroy him in his own, so he won't expose him to the public.

Webhead2006
09-24-2010, 06:28 PM
i really hope they can score michael for some time by the end of the season. The lex clones for the start seems to be a nice way to bring lex back into the story.

DaJanksta
09-25-2010, 09:57 AM
i really hope they can score michael for some time by the end of the season. The lex clones for the start seems to be a nice way to bring lex back into the story.
But that guy killed all the other clones and he said the original lex is dead. the kid Alexander is still alive though. Maybe he will grow super fast into lex? ugh I don't like it I wish the real Lex was just alive somewhere.

Webhead2006
09-25-2010, 10:08 AM
yea i know the clones were destroyed minus the little alexander one. I was just saying prior to the episode doing this clone storyline is a nice way to bring lex character back into the show's storyline for now. I am curious to see where they will go with little lex and what the plan is if michael is back. As for bald cap issues i am sure they would do their best to make it look real on michael.

Dajanksta another thought to think is sure the old lex clone said that the "creator" was killed. But what if that creator was just lex's first working clone which lex used for his games on clark/lana. Then he was killed by ollie with the truck. Then the Real lex could still be comatase/healing at another lab of his and all that. Or the growing theory some same that maybe the little lex grows through the season and ends up at the proper age and that is what they do for lex.

SpideyVille
09-25-2010, 10:12 AM
yea i know the clones were destroyed minus the little alexander one. I was just saying prior to the episode doing this clone storyline is a nice way to bring lex character back into the show's storyline for now. I am curious to see where they will go with little lex and what the plan is if michael is back. As for bald cap issues i am sure they would do their best to make it look real on michael.

Dajanksta another thought to think is sure the old lex clone said that the "creator" was killed. But what if that creator was just lex's first working clone which lex used for his games on clark/lana. Then he was killed by ollie with the truck. Then the Real lex could still be comatase/healing at another lab of his and all that. Or the growing theory some same that maybe the little lex grows through the season and ends up at the proper age and that is what they do for lex.
The only problem I have with the little kid is that he said himself he wasn't perfect, but then I guess at the same time, he still has Lex's DNA, so it's possible that maybe someone uses that DNA to go and make another clone which comes out perfect. But if they choose to make that kid grow up fast and become the real Lex, I hope they get the actors who played him in flashbacks to show him through the ages. It would be weird to see him go from 8 to 28 in such a short time.

But I like that idea of the Lex that died being a clone of the real Lex who may still be hurt and recovering somewhere. Though that might take some serious retconning to pull off. Not that they haven't done it before.

Webhead2006
09-25-2010, 10:18 AM
i dont see how it would be such a retcon to say the lex in the truck was just a clone many of us fans were thinking that way back in season 8 anyway. So it could work. As for little lex sure he isnt perfect but he is still living and maybe over time grows more healthy or tess works on him/darkseid does something to him to make him better.

DaJanksta
09-25-2010, 01:19 PM
Yea It's a little complicated. I'd just rather have them say the real lex is still out there alive. That would keep him in the shadows and able to appear whatever episode they want if rosie comes back. I hope he does. It's needed.

Webhead2006
09-25-2010, 11:03 PM
yea there is ways they can go.

Mr. Majestic
09-25-2010, 11:10 PM
I bet if he does come back the rating are going to jump very high. I know i can't wait for his return. I just hope its not the last episode that he makes his decision to come back on, that would be great and blow at the same time.

Young Superman
09-25-2010, 11:42 PM
I hope Michael Rosenbaum does return to Smallville.

Webhead2006
09-25-2010, 11:47 PM
well with all the reports of the producers and tom after him and him seeming more open to it as long as he gets his demands (bald cap) i believe he will at least agree to appear in at least the last two episodes.

SpideyVille
09-25-2010, 11:47 PM
Just read this over at K-Site. Don't know where it's from though.

"Also, for those asking - MR isn't holding out bc of the hair thing. They've apparently okayed the bald cap and it's still no."

Webhead2006
09-25-2010, 11:48 PM
well if thats true its probably $$$ and how many episodes they want.

MAN O STEEL
09-26-2010, 12:18 AM
I'm sorry but people like Michael Rosenbaum & Bill Murray make me sick. They need to start showing some respect to the franchises that really launched their career's & got them somewhere. How could you be so harsh to a show & fanbase that took you from second rate movies like poolhall Junkies & Sorority Boys & turned you into the greatest live action Lex Luthor we've ever had. If that were me, I'd be honored that the show runners & fanbase feel I couldn't be replaced as Lex Luthor & want me back so much, it says alot about your talent as an actor. People like Rosenbaum need a reality check.




Steve

Webhead2006
09-26-2010, 12:21 AM
well steve first we need to know were the comment came from and if its a viable source. So when michael first left it was ok that he seemed so far against coming back. But with all the other stuff now and the show ending i still dont see why just 1/2 episodes max is such a problem when he would likely only be filming for like 3 or 4 days max probably. But who knows we will have to wait and see what happens.

MAN O STEEL
09-26-2010, 12:29 AM
But who knows we will have to wait and see what happens.


But that's the whole point, it should be such a will he, won't he type situation. When a show that took you from no one to someone ring's you & asks you to reprise a role that simply can't be replaced by another actor, you say yes, I'd be honored, you show the respect of paying back a show & fan base that helped you get a little more respect in the business. All I can say is if it were me I'd be asking to reprise my role, so I could be a part of the last season that is to be so iconic & book ending. Maybe I'm naieve to how this all works, but that's just how I see thing's.




Steve

Webhead2006
09-26-2010, 12:34 AM
yea it sucks but to us we dont know all the details to everything. We dont know what all of michaels demands are, what are the producers demands, and all those other little contract stuff. Hopefully things will work out and we will get michael for the end.

MAN O STEEL
09-26-2010, 12:35 AM
It's funny but after Michael being asked numerous times to come back & kinda being vague about it sometimes & other times being adamant about never returning & then supposedly being asked about coming back wearing a bald cap & still saying no, makes me think maybe he has had a run in with the producers of the show in the past, in a very big way & that is why he left in season 7 & is so adamant about not returning. I don't think money is the issue given he has nothing on his plate at the moment & could probably use the cash. It's definitely a collaboration or creative issue between Rosey & the Runners, it has to be.



Steve

Webhead2006
09-26-2010, 12:40 AM
well i believe when he first left, he said he wanted to go off and do other work, and also feeling like the character has became stale for him. Which does happen to actors who are on long lasting shows like sv. Sure when he left he was pretty much saying he wasnt going to return. But always from what i heard he was always happy with the cast/crews on the show. But then on the other hand maybe his opinions just changed over the past few yrs after he left. But before that comment earlier it did/does seem that he is far more open to it now then ever before since he left. Like i said hopefully that comment isnt true or any lingering issues will get hammered out in the next few months. Really if the plan is to have michael for example just the last two episodes the scripts wouldnt be in to at least end of feb/early march at the latest. And filming wouldnt be happening to late march/early april. So there is still plently of time to get it all set.

MAN O STEEL
09-26-2010, 12:43 AM
well i believe when he first left, he said he wanted to go off and do other work, and also feeling like the character has became stale for him. Which does happen to actors who are on long lasting shows like sv. Sure when he left he was pretty much saying he wasnt going to return. But always from what i heard he was always happy with the cast/crews on the show. But then on the other hand maybe his opinions just changed over the past few yrs after he left. But before that comment earlier it did/does seem that he is far more open to it now then ever before since he left. Like i said hopefully that comment isnt true or any lingering issues will get hammered out in the next few months. Really if the plan is to have michael for example just the last two episodes the scripts wouldnt be in to at least end of feb/early march at the latest. And filming wouldnt be happening to late march/early april. So there is still plently of time to get it all set.


I just hope if he returns, it's not something he feels forced into & un enthusiastic about & I hope his lack of care doesn't carry through into the performance itself. When Michael's on his game, it's magic, I really want that back again.




Steve

Webhead2006
09-26-2010, 12:44 AM
totally hopefully he will be happy to return, enjoy being back on set and working with tom/erica/justin/allison and all that.

The Caped Knight
09-26-2010, 07:04 AM
Cassidy Freeman Joins Chorus Calling on Michael Rosenbaum to Reprise Luthor Role on "Smallville"

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/09/smallvilles-cassidy-freeman-to-michael-rosenbaum-get-over-here.html

Webhead2006
09-26-2010, 10:50 AM
saw that a few days ago.

The Incredible Hulk
09-27-2010, 11:00 AM
I'm sorry but people like Michael Rosenbaum & Bill Murray make me sick. They need to start showing some respect to the franchises that really launched their career's & got them somewhere. How could you be so harsh to a show & fanbase that took you from second rate movies like poolhall Junkies & Sorority Boys & turned you into the greatest live action Lex Luthor we've ever had. If that were me, I'd be honored that the show runners & fanbase feel I couldn't be replaced as Lex Luthor & want me back so much, it says alot about your talent as an actor. People like Rosenbaum need a reality check.




Steve

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Kryptonian Warrior
09-27-2010, 04:46 PM
Just out of curiosity, did Rosenbaum leave on bad terms?

Edit: Nevermind, I saw the interview saying that he was fine with cast and crew.

B
09-27-2010, 05:18 PM
No I think he left on great terms actually, I believe he went to the extent of writing some sort of letter to fans of the show explaining his decision to leave.

Essentially I think he wanted to attempt other work & not be pinned down by Smallville.. having the shave his head annoyed him I believe as well as it ruling him out of other roles he might have attempted to get.

He has to return.. I don't even care if he wears a bald cap. His hair is shorter than Zack Braff's was when he wore a bald cap on Scrubs for an episode & his looked quite convincing.

Kryptonian Warrior
09-27-2010, 05:27 PM
No I think he left on great terms actually, I believe he went to the extent of writing some sort of letter to fans of the show explaining his decision to leave.

Essentially I think he wanted to attempt other work & not be pinned down by Smallville.. having the shave his head annoyed him I believe as well as it ruling him out of other roles he might have attempted to get.

He has to return.. I don't even care if he wears a bald cap. His hair is shorter than Zack Braff's was when he wore a bald cap on Scrubs for an episode & his looked quite convincing.
I agree. It won't be a big deal to wear a bald cap and then touch it up with edits.

B
09-27-2010, 05:34 PM
Exactly, most bald caps can be made to look very realistic. The shorter the persons hair is the easier it is to keep with the flow/shape of the persons head.

Rosenbaums hair is quite short & isn't very thick, meaning if he really didn't want to shave his head, a bald cap wouldn't be the end of the world.

I'd just love to see him return.. I'd love it if they kept it completely quiet. Didn't even show him in any trailers and then BOOM!, he just appears. Would be a great surprise. I doubt they'd do that though because if they publicise that hes gonna return its likely to give ratings abit of a boost.

Webhead2006
09-27-2010, 06:40 PM
I am sure with smallville's makeup folks can easily make michael look just right with a bald cap. i have seen some quality bald caps in film/tv shows that looked real enough. Then there is other times it looks bad, ie like the jon hamm as lex luthor funny or die skit.

ZIPBAGS
09-29-2010, 11:05 AM
I would be very disappointed in Michael if he does not return. Yes, we know you were done with the show..Your story ran its course. But, this is the show that made you much bigger than you would have been. The producers seem to be granting your requests. I know he owes nothing to anyone. But, to me him not even returning even for part of an episode...Just seems to be a douchey thing to do.

Webhead2006
09-29-2010, 12:52 PM
that would be very sucky zip, but we still do have plently of time before last half of the season is to be written and even filmed. So hopefully any hiccups in the process with michael can be iron out and a deal is made.

Hush
09-29-2010, 12:57 PM
I think he will be back but for those of us saying he hasn't done much. I believe he has done a ton of stage work, am I correct?

Webhead2006
09-29-2010, 01:01 PM
i am not sure about stage work, but we know he has done a few tv pilots they didnt pan out. Also voice work for cartoons, And i beleive i seen it stated on his twitter or elsewhere he has worked on some small films for fans. As for other stuff ya maybe has done some theater stuff too. Heck look john glover did some theater work on the off season for sv all the time and allison is doing it right now to nov.

The Incredible Hulk
09-29-2010, 03:36 PM
The guy gave 7 years of his life to this show. He doesn't owe you, me, or anyone a thing.

If he wants to do it, which it's looking more and more everyday like he DOES, then he'll do it.

Batjag
09-29-2010, 04:37 PM
I hope he comes back as well. It's just a classy move to say thanks to the fans of the show that made you popular. Look at George Clooney, he was off being a movie star, and yet he still made time to do one episode in the last season of ER.

It shows the fans that you "get it," and creates a bit of closure. We want to see where all the main characters are in their lives as the series ends.

The Caped Knight
10-07-2010, 01:47 PM
Michael Rosenbaum on Returning to Smallville (http://smallvillebuzz.net/michael-rosenbaum-on-returning-to-smallville/)

Webhead2006
10-07-2010, 02:38 PM
as i said in the spoilers thread, hopefully michael will return. Plus if it does only end up to be the finale 2 episodes or so. There is still alot of time before the episodes are even scripted, and way more time to we get to filming them. Now its nice in the last few months michael been saying maybe more then saying no. So hopefully things are worked out and all that. Also really as i said he and the producers could all be playing coy, not wanting to reveal it to soon. In the event things dont work out and all that. So that is what i hope.

annie.j88
10-07-2010, 03:06 PM
as i said, i really don't care either way anymore. if he comes back, fine but if not, then replace him.

what's his problem anyway? i dont understand why he's being so hesitant. and why's he going to smallville conventions if he doesn't want to be in the final series?

sorry, but he's coming across as a real douche here

Johnny
10-07-2010, 03:32 PM
We really don't know the circumstances here to judge him or anybody else. Though still not getting a definite yes or no kinda bugs me, too.

Webhead2006
10-07-2010, 03:37 PM
that is true johnny. We dont know all the behind the scenes stuff on this matter. Its alot more then just a simple yes and no. There is deals, and contracts and other little matters that would all have to be finalized and worked out to the best of all parties.

SpideyVille
10-07-2010, 03:43 PM
Well that quote about him saying he wants it to be be right makes me think about how KK came back and her arc was just trash and killed the momentum of the season. I think he just wants to make sure they have a good storyline for his return, and honestly, I think an re-appearance of the Real Lex Luthor, alive an d everything is best suited for the finale.

Kii
10-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Well that quote about him saying he wants it to be be right makes me think about how KK came back and her arc was just trash and killed the momentum of the season. I think he just wants to make sure they have a good storyline for his return, and honestly, I think an re-appearance of the Real Lex Luthor, alive an d everything is best suited for the finale.

Well, from what I understand, Kristin was contractually obligated to reappear.

Johnny
10-07-2010, 04:00 PM
that is true johnny. We dont know all the behind the scenes stuff on this matter. Its alot more then just a simple yes and no. There is deals, and contracts and other little matters that would all have to be finalized and worked out to the best of all parties.

True. But as I said, I don't think that money is the main thing here, considering what other guest stars they got this season. It's gotta be more than that. Either way, we'll see. Hope everything turns out well and we see Lex at least for the finale.

B
10-07-2010, 04:08 PM
Michael Rosenbaum on Returning to Smallville (http://smallvillebuzz.net/michael-rosenbaum-on-returning-to-smallville/)

I don't like the doubt in his eye.. :(

If he comes back I actually want him to come back, I don't want him to come back if he somehow thinks of it as a chore.. which is what it looked like in that video.

Unless its a double bluff.. which it probably isn't.

My advice to him would be simple, if you don't really wanna come back for a few final episodes, then don't bother. It would be great to have him back, but if hes not really into it then the quality will probably suffer..

LostSon88
10-08-2010, 11:45 PM
I honestly think that at the end of it all...he will be back for the final episodes.

Hence, i'm really not that worried. :cwink:

If Teri Hatcher can make time for a special guest appearance, this dude can.

(what, you mean to tell me he has a busier schedule than Teri Hatcher? Pleeeeeeeese....)

MAN O STEEL
10-08-2010, 11:59 PM
If Teri Hatcher can make time for a special guest appearance, this dude can.


Yeah but Teri Hatcher wants to be a part of it, no questions asked. Michael, not so much. I just hope he comes to his senses before seasons end.



Steve

Webhead2006
10-09-2010, 12:02 AM
hopefully like i said there is still plently of time for michael to agree to appear. since if its only for the last two episodes first we already have the clones to deal with that can lead to michael's lex's return and all that. also really if we dont have anything on michael by end of feb then i would be worried more.

smooth3006
10-10-2010, 11:09 AM
i still say he will be back and im sure they have cut a deal already. we just do not know about it yet. even if he makes a brief appearance in the final episode ill be happy. you cannot recast him. :o

DaJanksta
10-13-2010, 08:13 AM
So the rumor on kyrptonsite is that at the 200th episode party the producers said that He is now saying no... :(

of course take it with a grain of salt this was posted by a poster with no evidence and the only credential that I can see is 28thousand posts.

Webhead2006
10-13-2010, 02:24 PM
Doubt its true when more recent news have had michael say maybe to return. Though like all we want him back. But don't know what is really going on behind the scenes with michael and tom/producers.

DaJanksta
10-13-2010, 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenarrowjustice http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6784128#post6784128)
can someone post the link where he definitively said no again - because the only recent comments I could find were him saying "maybe" or "who knows"

"It was a tweet from somebody at the 200 episode party. I don't remember who exactly it was from but it was somebody covering the event. And it said that the producers okay'd a bald cap and Michael was still saying no."



DAMN!! I sure hope this isn't true...Smokescreen?

Webhead2006
10-13-2010, 02:58 PM
We don't know for all we know there could be other issues. Or that statment isn't tue. But like I pointed out there is still, many months from when last few episodes being written and shot. So if there is a problem now. Maybe it can be worked out soon.

DaJanksta
10-13-2010, 03:04 PM
We don't know for all we know there could be other issues. Or that statment isn't tue. But like I pointed out there is still, many months from when last few episodes being written and shot. So if there is a problem now. Maybe it can be worked out soon.


I'm assuming he just wants more money or a better story line. Either way you're correct we still have some time. I think they(the producers) did say though that they were finalizing the ending of the show in the most recent interview? Not sure If I'm remembering it correctly.

Webhead2006
10-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Well they could be setting things up yes for last few episodes. Thoigh main writting probably wont happen to febish. Cause they are usually written with like a month or so before shooting of said episode. But yea as long as michael does agree to do the episodes/e before filming happens. I am sure a quick rewrite could happen. We just need to know with michael no later the late feb/early march.

smooth3006
10-16-2010, 09:09 AM
michael would be a fool to not return after last night's show.

Johnny
10-16-2010, 09:23 AM
We'll see what happens. I hope he comes back just as everybody else does, but who knows. Michael gave 7 years of his life to this show, he doesn't owe anything to anybody. I'm gonna be pissed if I don't see him in the finale, though.

RaZaTrOn
10-16-2010, 09:30 AM
Yeah he did give 7 years of his life to the show... and since leaving it he's really hit the big time hasn't he... oh wait no he hasn't!

If he has any sense he'd come back because this show effectively made him.
If he doesn't show up he truly has embodied the character of Lex Luthor, if you know what i'm getting at ;)
I won't blame anyone but him. It's such a shame as he was amazing as Lex.

smooth3006
10-16-2010, 09:30 AM
We'll see what happens. I hope he comes back just as everybody else does, but who knows. Michael gave 7 years of his life to this show, he doesn't owe anything to anybody. I'm gonna be pissed if I don't see him in the finale, though.


he owes it to us fans and the show to end the season with his presence IMO. you cannot recast him and we need lex for the finale. personally i think he is coming back but has been told to keep a tight lip about it.

Johnny
10-16-2010, 09:37 AM
He doesn't "owe" anything to anybody. Not to me, not to you, not to anyone. It would be awesome if he shows up in the end, we all want that to happen. But I disagree that he owes something to us fans after all the time and effort he invested in his character. Yeah, this show would feel incomplete if it ends without him making an appearance, but after episodes like Homecoming I'm willing to accept that. I'm getting tired of the "will he, won't he" thing, though.

smooth3006
10-16-2010, 09:39 AM
He doesn't "owe" anything to anybody. Not to me, not to you, not to anyone. It would be awesome if he shows up in the end, we all want that to happen. But I disagree that he owes something to us fans after all the time and effort he invested in his character. Yeah, this show would feel incomplete if it ends without him making an appearance, but after episodes like Homecoming I'm willing to accept that. I'm getting tired of the "will he, won't he thing", though.


millions of smallville fans disagree with you. if it weren't for smallville he would be a unknown. show me one convention or interview that does not bring up his infamous lex character. he knows darn well we want him back for the finale and i still think they payed big $$ to cast him, just hasn't been announced yet.

Webhead2006
10-16-2010, 10:18 AM
i too hope they are just pulling our leg on michael and they are just hammering out the finale details for his return. Then dont let the cat out of the bag to maybe after winter break or something.

Ghostvirus
10-16-2010, 06:11 PM
I really, really hate to be a bummer. But I listen to a podcast called Farley Bothers podcast. It is the brothers of Chris Farley. Jon, & Kevin. They basically just shoot the sh** for about an hour. Sometimes they have guests on.

This week they had Michael Rosenbaum. Who apparently are good friends with. Smallville was mentioned. The only thing that Rosenbaum said was that he hated being on the show after only 2 seasons. He didn't really say why. Except he hated shaving his head.

But he said absolutely nothing about returning. Didn't even hint, or do a wink, wink type thing.

I don't think he is returning.:csad:

Webhead2006
10-16-2010, 06:18 PM
Well you also have to say if things are being worked in he can say or hint to it. But we don't know for sure. But there is still time to get him back.

Johnny
10-16-2010, 06:41 PM
If Michael really hated so much to be a part of the show after two seasons, I really don't think he would've stuck around till the seventh.

Ghostvirus
10-16-2010, 06:44 PM
I think some of you would be amazed at how many actors have been on shows for a long time. But hated being on it. Bob Saget was recently on WTF. He said he hated both Full House & Funniest Videos. Not the people, just the politics. Those 2 shows lasted a long time. So, you know it happens.

Plus from what I understand he never renewed his contract. So it seems he just worked through his contract like a proffessional. & then left.

Look I am just saying what I heard. & the only reason why I take it seriously is because I have heard a ton of interviews on Podcasts where Celebs have said things that they would never say on any other talk show. Because they either don't understand that it still reaches people, or they just don't care.

Webhead2006
10-16-2010, 06:46 PM
Yea I doubt that to man. From what I remember he was happy doing the show all the yrs he was on. But like I pointed out if details are still being worked out he isn't legally allowed to say anything. Plus there still could be other reasons to him coming or not. But there is still many months to get him.

DaJanksta
10-16-2010, 07:04 PM
Well where is the podcast at?

I really hope he didn't hate it ****. Why would he say "I wont rule it out", semi smile when asked about it in the interview, and even be opened minded to it?

Ghostvirus
10-16-2010, 07:18 PM
What is the rule about posting links to things that have curse words in them? I don't want get in trouble. Until I find out. Just Seach Farley Brothers Radio. That should gets you to where you need to go.

The search would work even better on Itunes if you have that.

It is really hard to tell if he was joking or not. Cause it is an audio, & one of the Farleys have a bit of the Chris Farley disease. He is a loud talker. Rosenmbaum was about to go into why he didn't like being on the show, but things got derailed by Kevin yelling. But there was no snarky tone in his voice when he said it.

Webhead2006
10-16-2010, 08:31 PM
Well we don't know really maybe he was just mad with the interview or he did hate it. But its probably one of those things we probably wont know. But I wont give up hope just yet. Like I keep saying there is still many months time we got to its to late.

DaJanksta
10-17-2010, 08:33 AM
What is the rule about posting links to things that have curse words in them? I don't want get in trouble. Until I find out. Just Seach Farley Brothers Radio. That should gets you to where you need to go.

The search would work even better on Itunes if you have that.

It is really hard to tell if he was joking or not. Cause it is an audio, & one of the Farleys have a bit of the Chris Farley disease. He is a loud talker. Rosenmbaum was about to go into why he didn't like being on the show, but things got derailed by Kevin yelling. But there was no snarky tone in his voice when he said it.
Just listened to it. He said around season 2 he got tired of shaving his head. He said they "got greedy with it" and asked him to shave his back for some scene. He says "I gotta be honest with ya, I really, really...is something wrong with the mic?" then Farley starts screaming and they never really get back to the story. Just saying he didn't like asking his brother to shave his back.
He NEVER ONCE said he hated being on the show. He just seemed to be annoyed from the head shaving. He didn't say one thing bad about the cast. So that goes in hand with him saying he loved the people he worked with. He just seems to of hated shaving his head...
He did seems irritated and almost like he would of said he hated working on the show if he hadn't gotten interrupted. I guess we won't know though from this podcast. I really hope he can find it in his heart to return for at the very least ONE scene at the end.

smooth3006
10-17-2010, 09:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKRYRVEFDzE

MUST have lex back! :awesome:

Webhead2006
10-17-2010, 10:11 AM
yea we all know from interviews michael didnt like shaving his head for so long and heck he even said yrs prior that he didnt want to do it and then find out he is bald or what not and cant grow his hair. Though hair is one little thing can be looked over. But as for michael and returning still we dont know all the details with his thoughts and reasons and all the stuff kelly/brian/ and tom are doing to get him to return. Or if really everything is being worked on and everyone on each side legally cant say/dont want to say things now and mess up things. Take for example john glover returning it was first mentioned at comic con but wasnt officially confirmed to like a month or so after. So there is always hope. For me like i continue to say we got time for michael to reveal/producers reveal michael is back. So i like to hold onto the hope he will be back.

Ghostvirus
10-18-2010, 01:56 AM
Just listened to it. He said around season 2 he got tired of shaving his head. He said they "got greedy with it" and asked him to shave his back for some scene. He says "I gotta be honest with ya, I really, really...is something wrong with the mic?" then Farley starts screaming and they never really get back to the story. Just saying he didn't like asking his brother to shave his back.
He NEVER ONCE said he hated being on the show. He just seemed to be annoyed from the head shaving. He didn't say one thing bad about the cast. So that goes in hand with him saying he loved the people he worked with. He just seems to of hated shaving his head...
He did seems irritated and almost like he would of said he hated working on the show if he hadn't gotten interrupted. I guess we won't know though from this podcast. I really hope he can find it in his heart to return for at the very least ONE scene at the end.


I really hope we see him return as well. Cause in my opinion we have yet to see Lex actually be a villian. Even when he was doing that clone army he was doing it because he thought he was doing good.

We have yet to see the evil world conquering Lex on this show. & after 10 years. That is the one thing I was hoping to see by the end of the show.

I really don't see how he would have hated the cast or crew. But I have heard in numerous interiviews previous people who have worked on television. Talk about how horrible the politics are. Like you said. It seemed like he was going to say more about Smallville, but Kevin started losing it.

Who knows maybe he was about to drop a bomb that he was returning.

DaJanksta
10-18-2010, 08:01 AM
I really hope we see him return as well. Cause in my opinion we have yet to see Lex actually be a villian. Even when he was doing that clone army he was doing it because he thought he was doing good.

We have yet to see the evil world conquering Lex on this show. & after 10 years. That is the one thing I was hoping to see by the end of the show.

I really don't see how he would have hated the cast or crew. But I have heard in numerous interiviews previous people who have worked on television. Talk about how horrible the politics are. Like you said. It seemed like he was going to say more about Smallville, but Kevin started losing it.

Who knows maybe he was about to drop a bomb that he was returning.

I agree with you. Lex is a huge reason why this show was a success. This show needs him to end it or this show's finale will be a failure to me. I wish I didn't feel that way lol. Lex is needed though.

Gmanofsteel
10-18-2010, 10:05 AM
I don't understand the hesitance. The guy's an actor right? Actors do roles to make $$$. If you're an actor and have a possible reoccuring role, it should be a freaking no-brainer.

DaJanksta
10-18-2010, 10:08 AM
I don't understand the hesitance. The guy's an actor right? Actors do roles to make $$$. If you're an actor and have a possible reoccuring role, it should be a freaking no-brainer.

Yea. I don't see why he won't just come out and tell us what the deal is and exactly why he wont do it. Of course unless he's just keeping it under wraps that hes coming back on some sort of level towards the end, rather it be a scene or a few episodes.

Ghostvirus
10-18-2010, 10:19 AM
I don't really get it either. I mean he already has been basically type cast as Lex. So he isn't going to be able to wipe that stench off him. So why not just do it.

How ever. I do not think he owes anybody anything. It will be a bummer if he doesn't come back. But I won't fault him for it.

Webhead2006
10-18-2010, 10:35 AM
Yea I hope he does come back. Hopefully it is all worked out. As for why he hasn't come back yet there is probably many factors.

Ghostvirus
10-27-2010, 02:35 PM
I was thinking watching last weeks episode. Clone Lex isn't bald. So maybe they could bring back Rosenbaum. But they won't need to shave his head this time.

SpideyVille
10-27-2010, 02:46 PM
I was thinking watching last weeks episode. Clone Lex isn't bald. So maybe they could bring back Rosenbaum. But they won't need to shave his head this time.
You mean the kid? I think he shaves it, based on the trailer for Harvest. Though, I would imagine that it would just grow back since he wasn't affected by a meteor blast. Wouldn't MR have to dye his hair though since it's red/orange, unless they give him a wig.

I also think there was a rumor that MR said no even after they said he could a use a bladcap, so I don't know if the hair thing is the issue anymore.

Ghostvirus
10-27-2010, 02:59 PM
Huh? I wonder what went down with him & them? Can't wait for the E! True Hollywood story years from now!

Webhead2006
10-27-2010, 03:14 PM
No he said he might do it with bald cap I don't think it was a total no. Plus like many of us have pointed out there is still many months to the end to get michael back.

Ultraman Nexus
10-28-2010, 07:19 PM
I get the sense that Rosenbaum is a guy who really likes doing comedy and he was feeling like the more he was tied to Lex Luthor the more he was not getting to do that.

Which is kind of a hell of a position to be in.

"I want to make people laugh!"

"No, shave your head and wax on about the great conquerers of history while trying to kill all light and joy!"

Webhead2006
10-28-2010, 08:06 PM
Totally but we will probably never know for sure certain things about michael. Hopefully in the end he agrees to do sv again cap or no cape. Only time will tell.

The Caped Knight
11-07-2010, 10:18 AM
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4701/lexayram1.png

It's remarkable how Conner really resembles Michael in the final scene .

Webhead2006
11-07-2010, 11:10 AM
Totally does

DaJanksta
11-07-2010, 02:12 PM
They have the exact same upper lip lol. Oh man I hope he makes it.

The Caped Knight
11-09-2010, 05:09 PM
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2396/sfxsuperman.jpg

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/10/20/ultimate-superman-%E2%80%93-the-results/

Indy1Jones2
11-09-2010, 05:17 PM
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8725/luthor.jpg

the real lex

Indy1Jones2
11-09-2010, 05:17 PM
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8725/luthor.jpg

the real lex

darkzombiemutt
11-09-2010, 05:19 PM
I agree with everyone except Jimmy, I like the both the Superman Returns Jimmy and the original movies Jimmy better.

Prison Mike
11-09-2010, 05:41 PM
The original movies Jimmy was the best IMO

Johnny
11-09-2010, 05:45 PM
Hahah, they picked Annette over Kristin. Nice but my favourite Lana was Stacy Haiduk. Hands down, she was awesome.

Webhead2006
11-09-2010, 10:54 PM
Well I liked the lois and clark jimmys more myself.

ZIPBAGS
11-10-2010, 02:08 PM
Man...I will be so pissed and bummed if Michael doesn't come back for at least one episode. Yes..yes..I know he is under no obligation.

Webhead2006
11-10-2010, 05:35 PM
Yea it would suck. But we don't know what is going on. Plus if nothing is set yet still a few months we got.

fixxxer1022
11-12-2010, 05:40 AM
Man...I will be so pissed and bummed if Michael doesn't come back for at least one episode. Yes..yes..I know he is under no obligation.


same here but if he chooses not to return just recast lex. you cannot end smallville without lex back.

Zack Snyder
11-13-2010, 12:00 AM
Save us Michael. Please :(

Johnny
11-13-2010, 12:52 AM
Huh? From what? :confused:

X-Fan#1
11-13-2010, 10:20 AM
I really hope Rosenbaum decides to come back for the end of the season, I would be quite bummed out if they recast the role.
Icing on the cake for me would be if in the final episode they had a scene where Lex entered a room/closet where we get to see his battle armor. Even if we don't see it in action, it would be an awesome tease

fixxxer1022
11-13-2010, 10:24 AM
I really hope Rosenbaum decides to come back for the end of the season, I would be quite bummed out if they recast the role.
Icing on the cake for me would be if in the final episode they had a scene where Lex entered a room/closet where we get to see his battle armor. Even if we don't see it in action, it would be an awesome tease


well i do know micheal has not flat out denied coming back so that's a good sign in my book. if he doesn't then recast the role. i wish the writers would throw us a bone about this.

Webhead2006
11-13-2010, 10:29 AM
well ya thing with michael we really dont know whats up now in the past he was pretty clear he didnt want to return at all. But in the more recent months since production started up we been hearing different from michael the no became a maybe. I do really think they are still just trying to work on a deal or they have reached a deal. And they just want to keep it hush hush. To be a surprise.

fixxxer1022
11-13-2010, 10:31 AM
we NEED this..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKRYRVEFDzE


:awesome:

Zack Snyder
11-14-2010, 12:14 PM
Save us from mediocre actors as villains. I think the quality and tone of the show was affected by Lex and even to some extent Lionel leaving the storylines.

Webhead2006
11-14-2010, 12:55 PM
I don't thibk so we have gotten some pretty solid actors on board as recurring villains and guest villains.

Johnny
11-14-2010, 03:35 PM
Yep, James Marsters has always been great. Sam and Callum did a pretty fine job too.

JackMercy
11-14-2010, 04:30 PM
I called Rosey the other day and brought up "the topic"...

He replied "It's too soon..."

;)

fixxxer1022
11-14-2010, 05:21 PM
if we don't hear anything by winter break or shortly after the return id say the chances of him being cast is zero! :csad::cmad:

Webhead2006
11-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Well fixxer I brought up the point script wise the last few episodes probably wont be done to feb/march. Wth any rewrites needed during/before filming starts. And if michael is like just going to be in last episode it wont be filming to april. There is still plently of time. Then also on other hand if things are set they could be trying to keep it hush hush to just before last episodes are to air to be big surprise.

fixxxer1022
11-14-2010, 05:39 PM
Well fixxer I brought up the point script wise the last few episodes probably wont be done to feb/march. Wth any rewrites needed during/before filming starts. And if michael is like just going to be in last episode it wont be filming to april. There is still plently of time. Then also on other hand if things are set they could be trying to keep it hush hush to just before last episodes are to air to be big surprise.


we shall see because i really do not want a recast. the only way they could explain why he looks different is by plastic surgery. i do know i want an all out evil lex like the video i posted above or the old evil lex we saw.

Webhead2006
11-14-2010, 05:41 PM
Yea it will just be a wait and see deal.

fixxxer1022
11-14-2010, 05:42 PM
Yea it will just be a wait and see deal.

i know and it sucks... they could at least throw us a bone about it.

Webhead2006
11-14-2010, 08:55 PM
Sure would be nice. But like I said if its being kept hush hush you can see why they don't want to say anything.

Zack Snyder
11-14-2010, 11:29 PM
What has he been up to? I haven't seen him in anything since SV.

Webhead2006
11-15-2010, 05:53 AM
Well from what I know since leaving sv he done some animated work. Did some pilots that didn't get picked up. Plus I believe he has done some independent film work with friends/contacts. Then besides that don't know. Probably other things too.

fixxxer1022
11-18-2010, 06:17 PM
how would you guys feel if they leave lex out of the rest of the season and not have him be the nemesis of superman? ive seen alot of people on
krypotonsite say they don't care if smallville uses lex anymore. :doh::doh:

Webhead2006
11-18-2010, 07:57 PM
i doubt that is going to happen. The little lex is probably going to be a key thing i would say for another 2-3 episodes among the sucide squad/darkseid stuff.

Webhead2006
11-18-2010, 09:42 PM
we have no clue right now where the heck michael stands. We dont know all the stuff going on with him and between tom/producers. For real all we know things could be getting worked on and everything is being kept hush. We dont know. So i wouldnt say its not going to happen just yet.

fixxxer1022
11-19-2010, 05:22 AM
i doubt that is going to happen. The little lex is probably going to be a key thing i would say for another 2-3 episodes among the sucide squad/darkseid stuff.

i doubt it too but you would be surprised how many do not want lex back. you cannot end smallville without lex luthor. :doh:

fixxxer1022
11-19-2010, 05:24 AM
Micheal Rosumbaum has too much of an ego now to come back.


micheal has one heck of a poker face during interviews. i agree there must of been some bad blood between him and the producers/writers.

Webhead2006
11-19-2010, 08:53 AM
Probably has been. But he always have said good things about the show and cast/crew. But I still wont@ ount michael out yet. Since we don't know what is really happening. Plus with michael going from no to maybe in past few months. It shows that he is probably thinking about it more and under right deal he will do it. I would only say things not good if we get to shooting the last few episodes and we don't have anything.

The Incredible Hulk
11-19-2010, 08:56 AM
Micheal Rosumbaum has too much of an ego now to come back.

and your basis for saying this is??????????????? :huh:

DaJanksta
11-19-2010, 01:20 PM
and your basis for saying this is??????????????? :huh:
None. I think we all just want him back so badly that we will say anything to make it feel like inevitably he will come back.

The Caped Knight
11-19-2010, 06:04 PM
also He doesn't want to shave his hair off again .

DaJanksta
11-19-2010, 08:17 PM
also He doesn't want to shave his hair off again .

Rumor at the 200th episode party was that they offered him a bald cap and he was still saying no to returning. In all seriousness guys if they pay him enough money he will come back. It's just up to them to fork out the money.

Webhead2006
11-19-2010, 08:37 PM
that was a rumor and we dont know if it was true or not. cause it conflicts with the other reports prior to that that michael seems more of a maybe return. But we dont know for sure what will happen. There is still plently of time for any deals to be made. I still wont say its not going to happen yet.

avidreader
11-20-2010, 01:06 AM
There is bad blood between him and the producers/ writers, but it's all on his part. There's some bad memories for him and that's why he has a grudge.

Huh? Where did you hear that?

Quite frankly I dont care if he comes back or not, if he doesnt want to, then that's his loss in my opinion. But I've never heard that he has bad memories or bad blood between himself and the producers. From everything I read, he loved his time on Smallville and he and Tom became very good friends. Reading between the lines, his reason for leaving was to try new things.

Webhead2006
11-20-2010, 09:30 AM
yea i dont know if he did have any hatred to folks. But in all interviews with him and cast/crew they all have said good things. As for him leaving he wanted to leave cause first his contract was up, second he wanted to move on to other projects, and 3rd the whole hair thing. I doubt he has any major hate to folks and if it is anyone its probably more on al/miles then kelly/brian.

The Incredible Hulk
11-20-2010, 11:37 AM
Huh? Where did you hear that?

Quite frankly I dont care if he comes back or not, if he doesnt want to, then that's his loss in my opinion. But I've never heard that he has bad memories or bad blood between himself and the producers. From everything I read, he loved his time on Smallville and he and Tom became very good friends. Reading between the lines, his reason for leaving was to try new things.


He doesnt. None of that is true. I'm amazed sometimes at the crap people come up with about the cast of the show.

Gunner
11-21-2010, 04:42 AM
In all likely hood, by now they've probably agreed a deal and they're just keeping it under wraps so as to leave it as a big reveal.

Johnny
11-21-2010, 05:14 AM
Well if that turns out to be true, I don't think it'd be that big of a surprise, considering that's what everybody wants since he left.

Webhead2006
11-21-2010, 11:43 AM
Yea I still think is it likely he will do an appearance in the finale and they are trying to keep thing hush to its closer to airing. Or they are still working on finalizing a deal. But in other michael news it was reported over at devoted to smallville site that michael is the 3rd sv star to agree to appear at the next yr superheroes convention in italy.

Johnny
11-21-2010, 12:19 PM
Yeah, and if he hated his time on Smallville like someone said earlier, he wouldn't make appearances on those conventions and stuff like that.

Webhead2006
11-21-2010, 12:30 PM
Well there is the other view he could do the conventions for just the pure value of getting paid. But ya more times often folks who didn't like doing so or so shows wouldn't do cons. We see it in all the big ones.