Official The Ultimates Thread

[Savage]

Oh and by the way, if you play the game, Venom absorbs Canon so his tenticles aren't flailing all over the place and he gains control over himself. He becomes complete and the giant white spider comes in. He is also much bigger, faster, and stronger.

[PhotoJones]

I understand what you're getting at, but the Venom we see today is way too far off from the Venom we saw then.

Venom was originally just a hate-driven, evil Spider-Man. He lived to terrorize Peter Parker in every way. And while, yes, he was reluctant to harm innocents, it didn't stop him.

(In the church, he knowingly kills a guard...albeit feeling sorry about doing it.)

Somewhere along the lines, they made Venom's motivations so screwy that I couldn't even make sense of them. Because his innocence was supposedly "taken" by Spider-Man, he now lives to protect the innocent? That's so stupid. Hate is your motivation, Eddie - not compassion.

And of course, over time Venom just got bigger and bigger, and the tongue and drool got more and more exaggerated, and he started talking about eating people.

That's all well and good, but none of that addresses my questioning of you're disappointment over Marvel failing to restore the character's dignity. What dignity?

[Savage]

Hmph...I could've sworn that I've read multiple times that it isn't canonical. The two main problems with it being canonical are Silver Sable and Carnage.

Were it not for those two things, I wouldn't mind because it was a good story. But Silver Sable and Carnage interfered with forthcoming USM arcs featuring the same characters.

Sable's arc is before the game and the future Carnage is a Gwen Stacy clone and not a Peter Parker clone. There. Mystery solved.

[Eddie Brock]

That's all well and good, but none of that addresses my questioning of you're disappointment over Marvel failing to restore the character's dignity. What dignity?
As I said, Venom had dignity in those first two appearances. And clearly, he was popular enough to warrant so many returns. But they overused his character too quickly, and poor attempts to "revamp" him led to the disgraceful mess that we see today.

[PhotoJones]

As I said, Venom had dignity in those first two appearances. And clearly, he was popular enough to warrant so many returns. But they overused his character too quickly, and poor attempts to "revamp" him led to the disgraceful mess that we see today.

Yeah, you keep saying the character was dignified, but you're not explaining how. I'm not seeing it. At all.

[Eddie Brock]

Yeah, you keep saying the character was dignified, but you're not explaining how. I'm not seeing it. At all.
That's fine. Not everyone likes every character. But when I read ASM 300, 316, 317, I saw a villain with a lot of potential. Potential, which I feel, has been wasted in modern comics (but then again, what didn't the '90's f*** up?).

I'll still hold out hope that Venom's return in USM will show me that character for who I am named. Because I most definitely not seeing him in The Ultimates.

[Savage]

It's an artist rendering. Joe Mad draws all his characters like that. He exagerates the hell out of anything. Chances are that The Hulk will be even bigger than this guy. Don't worry. You're Venom is still the same. Especially if Loeb is writing him.

[GFreeman]

There's some new Ultimates pages out...I haven't seen them in the topic yet, so I figured I'd throw them up.

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/833/833811/ultimates-vol-3-20071108045429322.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/833/833811/ultimates-vol-3-20071108045401636.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/833/833811/ultimates-vol-3-20071108045400183.jpg

MAD is a man among boys, but his Wasp is interesting...she looks a lot less Asian. Granted, anyone can change their hair color, even Asian women, but she looks pretty much like she does in 616.

I really hate the direction The Ultimates seem to be taking, especially with the art.

[MattXG]

I really hate the direction The Ultimates seem to be taking, especially with the art.
Forgive me but...

ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!?!?!


This art is ABSOLUTELY stunning! I've never seen better in a comic book. :heart::heart::heart:

Joe Mad!!:heart:

[MattXG]

No...Ultimate Venom has no spider, and his size never reaches these levels:



And the game is not canon.
Do you have a link to a quote that proves this?

[Eddie Brock]

Do you have a link to a quote that proves this?
Apparently not. My mistake. But they've always been on the fence about that issue.

[MattXG]

Apparently not. My mistake. But they've always been on the fence about that issue.
Exactly.

I think there are some parts they want to keep and some parts they don't...I just think they aren't sure how to do that...

I think it will be something that, eventually, they'll just say "Well he got the spider on his chest in the game!"

Then, when someone says, "Bububu...Silver Sable!?"

They'll reply, "Yeah...well...oops? Next question!"

[Eddie Brock]

I really hate the direction The Ultimates seem to be taking, especially with the art.
Could. Not. Agree. More.

:up:

[MattXG]

Haven't even read the first issue...

AND

dissing the best art in the biz?


I've never seen such poor taste!

[Eddie Brock]

Poor taste?

You're singing this art's praises, and you want to lecture us on poor taste?

[MattXG]

Poor taste?

You're singing this art's praises, and you want to lecture us on poor taste?
Post any comic art against it and you will know this raises the bar! :heart:

BTW,

Who is that in your avatar? And where is it from?

[ShadowBoxing]

I really hate the direction The Ultimates seem to be taking, especially with the art.
I don't hate the art or anything, but the story is really what's bugging me. What I liked about Ultimates (vol.1-2) is that it went out of it's way to do something with Avengers that was relevant, in addition to being new and different. This seems to be Avengers EXtreme, nothing more than a redux of what's we've seen in the ninties with Heroes Reborn or in the 2000s with New Avengers. I much preferred the idea of Ultimates as a Government superhero strike force that was an extension of the American military than what's being previewed here.

[El Bastardo]

Awesome art. :up:

First helping out with the awesomeness of Iron and the Maiden, and now back on heavy art duties. Joe MAD! is back in the hizzouse.

...I only said it like that so that Spoons thinks I'm cool again. I'm trying to speak more in his language.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Post any comic art against it and you will know this raises the bar! :heart:

BTW,

Who is that in your avatar? And where is it from?


dear god:csad: i can name a hundread artist that are better then joe mad.

[GFreeman]

I can't see how someone can say this is the "best art in the business". I know it's "his style" and everything before someone points it out, but frankly, his style isn't worth my money. Everything is exaggerated and out of proportion to the point that it just looks comedic.

Also, I like the Jeph Loeb books that I've read, so I'm sure he'll deliver a good story, despite being paired with this Joe Mad guy, but it's not going to be the kind of story that I got into The Ultimates for. It just seems like they're turning it into this Saturday morning anime.

[MattXG]

I don't hate the art or anything, but the story is really what's bugging me. What I liked about Ultimates (vol.1-2) is that it went out of it's way to do something with Avengers that was relevant, in addition to being new and different. This seems to be Avengers EXtreme, nothing more than a redux of what's we've seen in the ninties with Heroes Reborn or in the 2000s with New Avengers. I much preferred the idea of Ultimates as a Government superhero strike force that was an extension of the American military than what's being previewed here.
So are all comic books that aren't really political just rehashing what has been done the decades previous to it?

If you aren't a political book, you are just doing what's been done for the last 20 years...good deduction.:whatever:

[MattXG]

I can't see how someone can say this is the "best art in the business". I know it's "his style" and everything before someone points it out, but frankly, his style isn't worth my money. Everything is exaggerated and out of proportion to the point that it just looks comedic.

Also, I like the Jeph Loeb books that I've read, so I'm sure he'll deliver a good story, despite being paired with this Joe Mad guy, but it's not going to be the kind of story that I got into The Ultimates for. It just seems like they're turning it into this Saturday morning anime.
If you want realistic, step outside.

[GFreeman]

That's a bit of a lame excuse for Joe Mad's art. :confused:

[Savage]

Here's the best art in the buisness.

John Cassaday, baby!

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0206/ASTXM013_COV_CMYK.jpg

[ShadowBoxing]

So are all comic books that aren't really political just rehashing what has been done the decades previous to it?

If you aren't a political book, you are just doing what's been done for the last 20 years...good deduction.
Are you an idiot? That's not what I said at all. The Ultimate Universe needs to separate itself from 616 in some way to be meaningful. Taking the political element out of Ultimates makes it just Avengers, and thus removes any purpose the book had to exist.

[GFreeman]

I agree 100% on that. I've loved John Cassiday's art since I first saw it in "Gifted". I'd have loved for him to take over for Bryan Hitch.

[El Bastardo]

Now, now. No need to be openly facetious. I mean, at least masque it a little.

It's a taste of styles. I happen to have a soft spot in my brain for MAD!'s work because of his work on the 90s X-Men books. I love the guy's style, especially for X-Men, but I think it happens to fit this book and these characters well. And it'll fit Loeb's writing just fine, regardless of what Loeb writes.

Some people don't want the book to move past what it was when Millar/Hitch were on it. Despite that making for something overly stale, it is nonetheless a fair and valid viewpoint.

And for some people, the surreal-exaggeration of MAD!'s style doesn't do it.

[ShadowBoxing]

If you want realistic, step outside.
Who says comics can't be realistic? Has it ever occured to you that maybe the appeal of a comic sometimes isn't "big explosions" and "over-exaggerated heroes".

[ShadowBoxing]

I agree 100% on that. I've loved John Cassiday's art since I first saw it in "Gifted". I'd have loved for him to take over for Bryan Hitch.
Cassady and Whedon would've done an excellent job on a title like this.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i wholeheartedly agree,shadow.

[El Bastardo]

Yeah, Whedon could have turned Wasp (or Hawkeye, or even Cap!) into Buffy and given said character all kinds of Buffy-isms and Kitty-isms.

And Cassaday could have taken 3-4 months to get issues out, just like on Astonishing!

Wait, weren't we trying to get rid of delays?

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, Whedon could have turned Wasp (or Hawkeye, or even Cap!) into Buffy and given said character all kinds of Buffy-isms and Kitty-isms.

And Cassaday could have taken 3-4 months to get issues out, just like on Astonishing!

Wait, weren't we trying to get rid of delays?
You think delays were bad under Hitch and Millar, wait until you see how long it takes Joe Mad to complete something:wow:

[GoldenAgeHero]

Yeah, Whedon could have turned Wasp (or Hawkeye, or even Cap!) into Buffy and given said character all kinds of Buffy-isms and Kitty-isms.

And Cassaday could have taken 3-4 months to get issues out, just like on Astonishing!

Wait, weren't we trying to get rid of delays?


i rather have them late with whedon and cassiday, thanks.

[Eddie Brock]

Late excellent books > On-time crap.

It's that simple.

[El Bastardo]

You think delays were bad under Hitch and Millar, wait until you see how long it takes Joe Mad to complete something:wow:
He's pretty much done by the time the first issue releases, I'm pretty sure.

[Eddie Brock]

He's pretty much done by the time the first issue releases, I'm pretty sure.
As soon as I saw your signature, I knew that you and I were never going to agree on artwork. :dry:

Sorry, but if there's someone worse than Mad, it's Ramos.

[El Bastardo]

Oh, look, someone else who wants to make judgments of worth. :whatever:

Trust me, sweetiepie. If PJ-swizzle doesn't scare me, you won't either. :D

[Eddie Brock]

Oh, look, someone else who wants to make judgments of worth. :whatever:

Trust me, sweetiepie. If PJ-swizzle doesn't scare me, you won't either. :D
I'm not trying to "scare" anyone.

I'm simply pointing out that Ramos' art makes me want to beat cripples. It may sound harsh, but desperate times and all...

[El Bastardo]

You didn't try to point that out at all, actually, considering it's not what you wrote.

Well, until now.

I mean, if you're going to "try to point [things] out," at least do it from the beginning. The start. The get-go.

[Eddie Brock]

You didn't try to point that out at all, actually, considering it's not what you wrote.

Well, until now.

I mean, if you're going to "try to point [things] out," at least do it from the beginning. The start. The get-go.
Just because it's not what I wrote, doesn't mean that it's not what I meant.

Look beyond the surface next time. :cwink:

[Darthphere]

Late excellent books > On-time crap.

It's that simple.

On time excellent books > Late excellent books.

I win.

Next.

:o

[Eddie Brock]

On time excellent books > Late excellent books.

I win.

Next.

:o
Can't argue.

Nope. Just can't.

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome art. :up:

First helping out with the awesomeness of Iron and the Maiden, and now back on heavy art duties. Joe MAD! is back in the hizzouse.

...I only said it like that so that Spoons thinks I'm cool again. I'm trying to speak more in his language.

Haha, jerk.

[GNR]

I agree 100% on that. I've loved John Cassiday's art since I first saw it in "Gifted". I'd have loved for him to take over for Bryan Hitch.

I'd rather have him finish off Planetary so that damn 4th trade can come out!

[Doc Destruction]

joe mad's venom looks like crap, wtf?! i rather have someone else on this books, i don't care if it comes out late. dell-otto would be nice.

Thanks for adding to the list of people who let the companies know that late comics are acceptable. Please cut your own head off.

[El Bastardo]

Haha, jerk.
You love me.

[Colossal Spoons]

I only love lamp, sir.

[Xplicit Content]

Here's Spidey...

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1624/423jy6.jpg

[FatalEnergy]

New writer, new artist. I'm all for it.

[Blacklight]

When's it coming out!?! I'm stoked!:woot:

[GoldenAgeHero]

Thanks for adding to the list of people who let the companies know that late comics are acceptable. Please cut your own head off.



late books are acceptable. i can't help it. hell i even collected the rest of kevin smith's "the evil that men do" mini.:o and i finished ultimates.

[Colossal Spoons]

New writer, new artist. I'm all for it.

When's it coming out!?! I'm stoked!:woot:

Hope I can jump into it w/o having read much of the current stuff.

[FatalEnergy]

Hope I can jump into it w/o having read much of the current stuff.

what do you mean? like having read the other ultimate titles? I dont think you'll need much prior knowledge besides Ultimates 1 & 2.

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, I thought Spider-man was getting a new creative team for his solo title

[deemar325]

Bump

[FatalEnergy]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/836/836167/ultimates-vol-3-20071116083716974.jpg

variant for issue 2

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah now i know im not picking up volume 3.

[squeekness]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/836/836167/ultimates-vol-3-20071116083716974.jpg

variant for issue 2Awesomeness. :D Ultimate Thor kicks ass!

[El Bastardo]

Awesomeness. :D Ultimate Thor kicks ass!
I love the squeekness even more.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Are The Ultimates that good?Because i've been thinking about getting the paperbacks..

[squeekness]

I think it's the best of all the Ultimate books. The only drawback it ever had was the late shipping dates. :(

[Spade]

What the heck was the point of making new looks for The Ultimates if they were just going to make them look like their 616 counterparts...? At this point, I wonder why they even have this universe still going if they're just going to make it 616 Lite.

[Mogwai]

I think it's the best of all the Ultimate books. The only drawback it ever had was the late shipping dates. :(

agreed.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Are The Ultimates that good?Because i've been thinking about getting the paperbacks..

Totally worth the investment.

[Colossal Spoons]

Holy triceps, Thor! :eek:

[Colossal Spoons]

yeah now i know im not picking up volume 3.

What about that picture turned you off?

[LouFerignoDemon]

Holy triceps, Thor! :eek:


Thor was in that picture? :huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

Thor was in that picture? :huh:

Oooh yeeaaahhh :yay:

That Valkyrie has cool braids :up:

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah... Very cool braids. >.>

[Colossal Spoons]

Braids, of course that's what you noticed. Ha

[FatalEnergy]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/836/836366/marvel-in-february-2008-preview-20071119020939420.jpg
ULTIMATES 3 #3 (of 5)
Written by JEPH LOEB
Art and Cover by JOE MADUREIRA & CHRISTIAN LICHTNER

"Sex, Lies, and DVD" continues with "SIBLINGS" -- the true(?) origin of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch! What horrible secret have these two shared and how is it now exposed? Does it hold a clue to solving the murder at the Ultimates' mansion?

This issue guest stars Wolverine and uncovers the past...marching us closer to ULTIMATUM! The all-new epic saga of the Ultimates continues with superstars Jeph Loeb, Joe Madureira, and Chris Lichtner leading the way!

[Savage]

Very nice. Guy should be screaming in pain but still, cool.

[squeekness]

Ouchies, lol. :p

[Mogwai]

that looks great!

[Anubis]

Jesus, looks like he's got a tooth in his sack.

[DorkyFresh]

i dunno if anyone's posted this yet, but this was done by Travis Charest...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/choisez/P-3.jpg

[GoldenAgeHero]

he should've been the new artist instead of joe sucks bad.

[Harlekin]

That would've been awesome.

[WolfCypher]

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/836/836366/marvel-in-february-2008-preview-20071119020939420.jpg
ULTIMATES 3 #3 (of 5)
Written by JEPH LOEB
Art and Cover by JOE MADUREIRA & CHRISTIAN LICHTNER

"Sex, Lies, and DVD" continues with "SIBLINGS" -- the true(?) origin of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch! What horrible secret have these two shared and how is it now exposed? Does it hold a clue to solving the murder at the Ultimates' mansion?

This issue guest stars Wolverine and uncovers the past...marching us closer to ULTIMATUM! The all-new epic saga of the Ultimates continues with superstars Jeph Loeb, Joe Madureira, and Chris Lichtner leading the way!

I don't suppose anyone remember X-O Manowar? The issue of X-O where the main character Aric gets bit in half by a dinosaur?

[JackRembrandt]

Madureira's Wolverine looks terrible.

[GoldenAgeHero]

everything he draws looks horrible:huh:

[JackRembrandt]

Not everything. Of the Ultimates art I've seen, I don't like his Sabretooth or Wolverine. Everything else looks fine.

[Mogwai]

that pic by travis charest is great.

[LouFerignoDemon]

That would've been awesome.

Verrily.

[Colossal Spoons]

he should've been the new artist instead of joe sucks bad.

everything he draws looks horrible:huh:

Oh c'mon. That guy is good but Mad's style will be a breath of fresh air for U3.

[JackRembrandt]

Somehow I missed that Charest picture the first time around. Damn, he's good. That might be the best Ultimate Iron Man I've seen. It's funny, though, his Hawkeye reminds me of his Grifter when he was doing Wildcats.

[El Bastardo]

Oh c'mon. That guy is good but Mad's style will be a breath of fresh air for U3.
I love Spoons.

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn right, you bastard!

[JackRembrandt]

Isn't someone supposed to kick the bucket early on in U3? I noticed that Quicksilver is absent from that Charest drawing...

[GoldenAgeHero]

Oh c'mon. That guy is good but Mad's style will be a breath of fresh air for U3.


fresh air? i think that jersey air has rotten your brain, travis is alot more better for the ultimates then joe mad.

[JackRembrandt]

If he could keep a monthly schedule, I'd be inclined to agree. Then again, Mad's not exactly a master of efficiency, either....

[Colossal Spoons]

fresh air? i think that jersey air has rotten your brain, travis is alot more better for the ultimates then joe mad.

Travis is a good artist, but what makes him better for this book in particular? He could/should just go draw another series.

[Mogwai]

Isn't someone supposed to kick the bucket early on in U3? I noticed that Quicksilver is absent from that Charest drawing...

so is ant-man.

[FatalEnergy]

Isn't someone supposed to kick the bucket early on in U3? I noticed that Quicksilver is absent from that Charest drawing...

well that art is from ultimates saga, which is basically a summary of the events of ultimates 1 and 2 from starks perspective. At the end a woman(who earlier he was in bed with hehe) brings him the picture when he says "show me the face of my new team!"

so I'm guessing antman still isnt on the team and who knows about quicksilver. but i dont think its an indication of who dies.

[Steve Rogers]

Where do you buy your comics, Fatal?

[Steve Rogers]

Oh and the rumor about who dies seems to be Wasp, but I don't know if there is any truth to that.

[Mogwai]

^^ i hope not.

[lixdexia]

i hate that spidey and wolverine seem to be on the team now...

[Mogwai]

hopefully it's only temporary for this arc.

[Xplicit Content]

Has anyone posted this yet? It's a Wizard interview with Loeb from a few weeks ago. He gives some information on some characters...most notably,

Wasp will be team leader at the start of volume 3 (huh?)

Also, Valkyrie is indeed the "wannabe" Valkyrie from the Ultimate Defenders of volume 2. Loeb says how she got her powers is a mystery and that she will be Thor's girlfriend in volume 3.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006299059.cfm

[Red]

The more of hear about Volume 3, the more lame it sounds.

[FatalEnergy]

Where do you buy your comics, Fatal?

Local collectors shop called Noble. They sell old videogames, used movies, cards and comics.

Why?

[Sawyer]

The more of hear about Volume 3, the more lame it sounds.

Much as I like Jeph Loeb, I think it was a big mistake to go on without Millar/Hitch.

[Spade]

I never really had any love for The Ultimates, but the complete lack of appeal in Vol. 3 is enough to explain all of the protest when Loeb gets attached to a book. Mad's art doesn't help.

[GoldenAgeHero]

finally some sane posters.

[GNR]

Oh god,after re-reading the entire HC of Vol.1,I'm still in awe that Marvel is following this up with Loeb and MAD.

I guess if you go in totally forgetting the goodness that came before,things shouldn't be so bad.

[DorkyFresh]

i dunno if anyone's posted this yet, but this was done by Travis Charest...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/choisez/P-3.jpg

colored version...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDsGPMW5ms59wOUpSV4HfqvsN2x5AAUtgdB6nS4u8iZ8LAV3 PyegAFhOxKaKfEzAjG0LQm5zU7A8xhcLUGSRxTgUSyWk1PlKh! ogW57ROEHDkFwNJwuEA/Pg#32Color.jpg

[Steve Rogers]

Local collectors shop called Noble. They sell old videogames, used movies, cards and comics.

Why?I go to both of the Noble's as well. The best place to by back issues is Comic Warehouse on Eubank and Manaul. 1/2 price :)

[GL1]

Soooo... the concept and premise of Ultimates is OBVIOUSLY dead...

Last time I checked, it was portrayed to be a complete reinterpretation of the Avengers with a heavy dose of illusion of reality. That's what I was reading and I loved every second of it.

It seems that sometime in the middle of Avengers 2, it became an out-of-continuity Avengers title. That's pretty sad.

[Artistsean]

I think what they are going to try and do now is show, REALISTICLY, what it would be like if Stark and the others tried to start a superhero team.

I think they are some things that might be interesting, or at least different from the Avengers, like how the public will treat them now that they aren't connected to the Government.
Or how will the Government treat them.
I guess now they have secret identities. I guess we will see.

I'd like to see Ultimate Iron Man go through lots and lots of different versions of his armor, upgrades, down grades, making it more stylised, and what not.
(not like the current Iron Man, I mean realistic upgrades and stuff.)

Who is that woman with the sword?

[JackRembrandt]

That's Valkyrie.

[Kahoot]

colored version...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDsGPMW5ms59wOUpSV4HfqvsN2x5AAUtgdB6nS4u8iZ8LAV3 PyegAFhOxKaKfEzAjG0LQm5zU7A8xhcLUGSRxTgUSyWk1PlKh! ogW57ROEHDkFwNJwuEA/Pg#32Color.jpg
I like that, but not sure about The Wasp in a Mask. Is that Ultimates or another book?

[hammerhedd11]

Even though Loeb's a good writer I hope he doesn't f**k this up. This was most definitely my favorite comic the last few years and I hope it doesn't turn into a crappy Marvel Team Up kind of story.

[DorkyFresh]

I like that, but not sure about The Wasp in a Mask. Is that Ultimates or another book?

not sure which book it's for, but they're definitely wearing their Ultimates gear.

[Colossal Spoons]

The colored pic is beautiful

[Valorman]

i can't see it :(

[Kahoot]

not sure which book it's for, but they're definitely wearing their Ultimates gear.
Yeah, I knew it was Ultimate universe but it looks 100% better than Mad's stuff so it just kinda makes me sad.



i can't see it :(
Your missing out dude, sorry.

[Brian Braddock]

colored version...

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwDsGPMW5ms59wOUpSV4HfqvsN2x5AAUtgdB6nS4u8iZ8LAV3 PyegAFhOxKaKfEzAjG0LQm5zU7A8xhcLUGSRxTgUSyWk1PlKh! ogW57ROEHDkFwNJwuEA/Pg#32Color.jpg


God, how I wish they'd have gone with Charest over Joe Mad.

Charest's style wouldve been perfect to run on from Hitch's. :csad:

[Artistsean]

i can't see it :(
I had the same problem at first.
This is what i did, click the quote button. As soon as the Reply to Thread window showed so did the picture. And it has showed for me since then.

Hope that helps.

[GNR]

Anyone pick up Ultimates 3 #1 yet?

[PhotoJones]

No.

[Kahoot]

Wow, it's out alread! I remember thinking it would never come.

[PhotoJones]

It's not #1 that will never come. It's #2-5 that will never come. :up:

[Kahoot]

Anyone know where I can download it? You know I really don't wanna pay for this take on the Ultimates but I kinda wanna read it.

[PhotoJones]

Requesting an illegal download source is still grounds for a ban, is it not?

[Kahoot]

Bugger...

[El Bastardo]

Go die in a fire.

[PhotoJones]

Who me? :confused:

[Xplicit Content]

I haven't picked it up yet, but I couldn't resist spoilers...

Apparently, Wanda is the one who is murdered at the end of the issue. I'm a little PO'd at that. It's bad enough they screwed her over in 616 (Incest is not as bad as worldly reality altering psycho murderer). I admit she was the last person I expected to see go down.

[El Bastardo]

Who me? :confused:
No, PJ, not you. I mostly love you.

I meant the comic thief. :cmad:

[PhotoJones]

You love me? :heart:



Wait, "mostly"? :(

[El Bastardo]

Would you rather I hate you? :huh:

[PhotoJones]

I'd rather you love me completely.

[El Bastardo]

I cannot.

I feel the need to war mightily against thy opinions at times.

[Colossal Spoons]

The art was beautiful. GAH can go suck a lemon :o

[Blacklight]

Who's picked it up?

[Red]

Your momma.

[PhotoJones]

The art may be gorgeous, but the Ultimate Universe sucks donkey balls, and there are just no two ways about it. :o

[elswick1979]

The art may be gorgeous, but the Ultimate Universe sucks donkey balls, and there are just no two ways about it. :o


I've seen several of your posts on here "Photojones" and my oh my do you talk about donkey balls alot, I mean ALOT.

[Red]

Talking donkey balls is part of PJ's charm.

[elswick1979]

Talking donkey balls is part of PJ's charm.
Charm, Sexuality. I don't judge.

[Colossal Spoons]

The art may be gorgeous, but the Ultimate Universe sucks donkey balls, and there are just no two ways about it. :o

Art was great and the universe is interesting :up:

[Blacklight]

Yeah and their costumes are cooler. That's what got me reading.:up::grin:

[Red]

Find rock, crawl.

[Colossal Spoons]

Opinions FTW :up:

[GNR]

The art may be gorgeous, but the Ultimate Universe sucks donkey balls, and there are just no two ways about it. :o

With the exception of Ultimates 1 and 2,Millar's UF4,and the first 6 issues of UXM,I agree.

[Blader5489]

With the exception of Ultimates 1 and 2,Millar's UF4,and the first 6 issues of UXM,I agree.

And most of USM.

[FatalEnergy]

I know who shot Scarlet witch.

Harvey Dent's Wife

[Joker]

the obvious choice would be Hawkeye, as he's apparently gone f**king nuts...but I dont think Loeb would do something that obvious...

[chris moore]

While a lot happened... it just felt like nothing happened.

[squeekness]

While a lot happened... it just felt like nothing happened.Yeah, I agree. Things seemed a bit...jarring ... to me as well. I didn't like this issue as much as the previous runs. I hope things get better. :( Loved the art, though. :p

[DoomJester]

I will third that motion.

A lot happened-- the characters were so completely different that I had to re-read it again to figure out who these people were. It is upsetting because Ultimates (2) is one of my top five comics, but it is ultimately refreshing because it felt brand new. And in the end, as long as I don't compare it to U2 I think will like the U3 characters. The ending was different. I don't buy Pietro not being able to rush her to the hospital or even apply some pressure or to the wound but w/e. The art works in its own way, I like it a lot more than I thought I would.

Not a lot happened-- people fighting about stuff we don't even know what they are fighting about, the heroes hate each other (again? Wasn't that volume 1?)-- that's new in comics. I've never seen angsty characters before.

Has Loeb given some interviews about the series? I read a short IGN one, I know he is playing around with the idea that a lot of time has passed between U2 and U3. But has he said anything else? Will there be a U4? Or is going to kill everyone except say, Cap and Thor and say that he is awesome? Also, what happens to Valkyrie? Solicits for 2 say "Valkryrie vs Thor?" So will she stay on the team or will she be next up for death or something to make the series more "awesome"?

[Xplicit Content]

the obvious choice would be Hawkeye, as he's apparently gone f**king nuts...but I dont think Loeb would do something that obvious...
Still haven't gotten the issue, but some are saying Magneto...hence the bullet that changes direction.

[DoomJester]

I don't believe it is Hawkeye, Loeb said he really liked the character, and I don't know, something about that statement says that it really means Hawkeye's power-levels and abilities are going way up, and that he will be the hero. Magneto is a good choice, but look at those bullets, they seemed special, that just isn't what bullets look like, so it could be someone else.

[the_ultimate_evil]

the art was interesting but the colouring really let it down and made a lot of pages hard to look at.

i knew it was always joked that old wanda and petrio were a bit f**ked up but it was still a serious what the hell moment

about the death

i'm betting on the whole magneto angle, seems to be the most logical.

though it still may be a bit more of a inside job.


what i'm surprised about is no one hasnt mentioned it yet. the doc at the end if thats not thor its a hell of a red herring

[PhotoJones]

I've seen several of your posts on here "Photojones" and my oh my do you talk about donkey balls alot, I mean ALOT.

Actually, I just did a search, and this was the only time I've ever used "donkey" and "balls" together in the same sentence (other than this one). :o

[chris moore]

I couldnt believe Pietro actually thought he'd caught the bloody bullet! Spose panic will make you a little unedged though.

Don't know why Tony is being all aloof considering his upbeat attitude at the end of volume2. Don't know why Cap is hardly around given his "The Ultimates have to do good outside of the military" attitude at the end of volume 2. Don't know what Hank's level of involvement is or how he was let out of confinement at the end of volume 2. Don't know how Wasp is being the team leader as she has shown no leadership abilities like her 616 counterpart.

A lot we dont know that could be interesting if, and only if, its actually explained rather than dismissed by Loeb as "about three months have passed since the end of volume 2, and a lot has happened to our team"

[DoomJester]

A lot we dont know that could be interesting if, and only if, its actually explained rather than dismissed by Loeb as "about three months have passed since the end of volume 2, and a lot has happened to our team"

He said that he would, but he wanted to start off with the team as it is now so that anyone could jump in and read it, and that through the five issues you'd see why things changed. That's what he said, hopefully he will follow through with that.

[Valorman]

I'm sorry, this was a terrible read. the dialog felt so utterly childish, in fact the entire BOOK felt silly, with little "controversies" thrown about to make the plot seem edgy and adult. i mean, who thought saying "EAT THIS" was anything BUT cheesy and ridiculous in ANY context? except maybe a porno. but that's another post entirely.

[ShinNatsume]

I'm sorry, this was a terrible read. the dialog felt so utterly childish, in fact the entire BOOK felt silly, with little "controversies" thrown about to make the plot seem edgy and adult. i mean, who thought saying "EAT THIS" was anything BUT cheesy and ridiculous in ANY context? except maybe a porno. but that's another post entirely.

well, thats discussionable. i liked the art and the writing. the coloring on the other hand...

im sure we will get all the answers we need, come time. i came to the conclusion that unlike 616, marvel does not try tos crew this up...

[AngryBadger]

Seems like Loeb is writing the characters as though they were in 616 not the Ultimate U. Since when is Ultimate Venom so chatty?
Hawkeye's dialogue was just.....awful, and why is Wasp suddenly the leader of the team? And the sex tape? Felt like Loeb was just dropping in sensational moments to grab the reader, (as usual), didn't like it at all. Liked Madeurira s (or however you spell his name) new uniform designs and stuff, but the art was crap in this issue, probably because of the lousy colouring.

I dunno, seems crap, I probably won't bother picking up the rest of this, particularly given that he's bringing Sabertooth back. WHich is BS, one of the reasons I like the Ultimate U. is that it's not the regular 616, and Sabertooth has remained very dead in the Ultimate U.

[LouFerignoDemon]

I liked the Witch's costume. I liked how they're incorporating Bullseye and Hawkeye kind of like I thought (he has the same ability set). Buuuuut all in all, I didn't really enjoy it.

I liked seeing the Panther, buuuut, nothing going on there.

And is that Valkyrie the same Valkyrie Pym was banging?

[November Rain]

from what i saw joe's art looks cool

[PhotoJones]

I liked most of what I saw when I flipped through it. That Black Panther splash page was pretty bad, though.

[CaptainCanada]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=4831279#post4831279

First issue sells out and gets a reprint.

[Brian Braddock]

First issue 'sells out'.

Oh, the irony.

[squeekness]

It sold out at my shop too. Thank god for pull lists. :up:

[GNR]

It's a decent start,but I'm not holding my breath for a return to form in the next 4 issues.

[Xplicit Content]

Ok, so I finally read issue 1. I figured it wouldn't be as bad as people made it out to be...I figure it's natural considering the change in creative teams...a lot of people are gonna jump ship...the test is gonna be to see how many new readers they can pick up to compensate. A few things...

Wasp issue: She definitely doesn't look the way Hitch drew her...but I guess nobody MAD draws looks like they did in the previous 2 volumes. I don't necessarily think MAD didn't get the memo that Jan was Asian in this universe...I just think this is the way MAD draws Asian women. In the first panel without her mask (the one where she says Wanda and Pete are in love), she actually looks Asian...and then the rest of the panels seem open to interpretation. The hair plays a part...but I guess all women dye their hair different colors, Wasp included. Wanda also went from black hair to brown...gotta admit I preferred the black. All in all, the character designs were definitely 616-esque...but MAD's art is gorgeous, so I'll take it.

As for characterization; Didn't like Hawkeye's reaction to the porno. The woman did just murder his family...he showed more annoyance than animosity, but the man is mentally unstable...I guess his weird reaction could stem from that. Stark being upset over Widow didn't bother me...he did almost marry the chick. Although he seemed over her in the last volume, you can argue he was just showing a false bravado. It's still early, but Valkyrie/Thor can either be really funny or really corny...I'm waiting to see how the relationship pans out. Not sure about Thor's speech...hoping all will be explained in the coming issues. Not happy about Wanda's death, but looking forward to a good murder mystery...so much was wrong about that doctor...why does it seem like the mouth to mouth was used for a specific reason? Almost seemed like he was ingesting her blood.

[Anubis]

I wonder who they're gonna get after Loeb does his two volumes. Once the Joe Mad stuff is done with, (whenever that is) Ed Mcgunisses stuff should go much faster.

[SenseiofCheese]

I also had a slight problem with Hawkeye's characterization, but like Xplicit said that could be chalked up to trauma.
I could've done without explicitly stating that Pietro and Wanda's relationship was incestuous but it didn't bother me any.
The only real problem I had with the issue was the coloring, which I thought was kind of muddled and made things confusing as hell.

[TromaFreak64]

Seems like Loeb is writing the characters as though they were in 616 not the Ultimate U. Since when is Ultimate Venom so chatty?
Hawkeye's dialogue was just.....awful, and why is Wasp suddenly the leader of the team? And the sex tape? Felt like Loeb was just dropping in sensational moments to grab the reader, (as usual), didn't like it at all. Liked Madeurira s (or however you spell his name) new uniform designs and stuff, but the art was crap in this issue, probably because of the lousy colouring.

I dunno, seems crap, I probably won't bother picking up the rest of this, particularly given that he's bringing Sabertooth back. WHich is BS, one of the reasons I like the Ultimate U. is that it's not the regular 616, and Sabertooth has remained very dead in the Ultimate U.

This is honestly one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen in SHH history.

Sabertooth stayed dead in Ult. universe after his head was cut off??? I didn't think so, but thanks for prentending to read the comics.

If your point was to say that death is ususally more permanent, then I am sorry because that is one of the reasons I liked Ult. universe at first - but it's easy to say part of that is because the universe is relatively new and only time will tell what will really happen, but don't specifically give an example that contridicts your opinion.... That was just silly

[SpandexFan]

Now that most titles worth reading these days have their own trade paperbacks, I usually stick to that medium. I find it more enjoyable to read all six volumes instead of waiting month to month for what feels like a ten page story. However, sometimes I love a certain title so much, I can't wait and pick up the comic book. Ultimates 3 was one of those rare exceptions and I'm pretty disappointed with what I found.

-- The entire opening premise feels like a rip-off from the 616 Avengers Disassembled storyline. Even down to the dark art style. Maybe a little opening New Avengers feel? For whatever reason, it doesn't have The Ultimates feel.

-- Venom suddenly jumping into their headquarters and creating a typical wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am fight is the best they could come up with to get us started?

-- As others have stated, they felt the need to spell out Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch's wierd relationship? Sometimes, it's best just to leave things unsaid, and let us theorize on our own. It's like the horror film director who doesn't realize not showing us the menace is more scary than showing it in all its detail.

-- Thor is suddenly not so cool. I don't fault them, though, the mystery surrounding him was taken away when we finally discovered his true origin. Maybe they just should have left him out? Some of his "thoust" lines seemed like typical garbage from some of the worst Thor storylines ten years ago.

-- Not much reading. A big reliance on art, which I felt was pretty darn impressive, but reading the Millar dialogue is what drew me in to the other Ultimates.

Blah. It doesn't look promising if this is what we have to go on. I will say one thing, though, I liked the Iron Man/Black Widow sex tape. It felt "Ultimate." A departure from the norm we see in the regular Marvel titles, and more realistic like most of the Ultimate versions of Marvel characters, I might add. With all the celebrity sex tapes that make their rounds in the age of the internet, it's only natural that in a superhero world where they enjoy celebrity status, they would encounter the same problems. However, combined with the details of Quicksilver & Scarlett Witch's relationship, and the sudden death, it all seemed a little overboard, like they were going for shock value, because the story wasn't there. I was also happy to see Black Panther included in The Ultimates, and I'm assuming the mysteries of Captain America trusting him and knowing him the best, while everyone else is in the dark, will make for a compelling storyline somewhere in this run.

I suppose I'll end this one feeling the same way I did after watching Terminator 3. My old favorites are back, it was entertaining at times, but it just didn't feel as classic as the predecessors.

[Havok83]

Is this the Ultimate line or 616? What is up with the new character designs? Scarlet Witch looks exactly like her 616 counterpart now. Why does she and Wasp now have red hair? Wasp doesnt even look asian anymore. Overall great issue though. Art was amazing and its good to see MAD back at Marvel

[Kahoot]

No, PJ, not you. I mostly love you.

I meant the comic thief. :cmad:
It's Joe Mad... :whatever:

I'll get the TPB when it's out anyway.

[CaptainCanada]

http://www.thexaxis.com/misc/ultimates31.htm

Paul O'Brien weighs in on the first issue, and it's pretty grim:

Reading this issue, I couldn't help imagining people in the Marvel offices gathering around the pages in horrified silence, with a clock ticking ominously in the background. They must know. They surely can't have deluded themselves into thinking this is any good.

Ultimates 3 is bad, very bad. I'd go so far as to say it's shockingly incompetent. Even after suffering through "Evolution", I was still prepared to regard that as a weird anomaly from an experienced writer. I read this thing, and then I sat there in silent disbelief.

[FatalEnergy]

meh, first issue wasnt very good, but I'm still pretty optimistic about it. the second issue should hopefully be better and explain things.

[SenseiofCheese]

meh, first issue wasnt very good, but I'm still pretty optimistic about it. the second issue should hopefully be better and explain things.


Yes, because that happens all the time.





:csad:

[GoldenAgeHero]

loeb needs to work with sale again, that when he's at his best.

[El Bastardo]

The problem people have with this issue is, unfortunately, unsurprising.

It's the same thing that happened with Loeb's arc on Wolverine, which I still contest was a good story, intelligent, and entertaining.

"Boohoohoo, wah wah wah, it doesn't make sense right away from the start!"

Yeah, that's right. Apparently most readers now want everything given to them on a nice, shiny silver platter right away, at the get-go, so they can follow it like it's a pretty little easily-followed line.

...Except not all writers write like that anymore, and it's fairly obvious that Loeb is in a phase where he's not writing in a necessarily linear or linear-clarification manner.

Not that anyone will give it a fair shot, anyway.

Oh well, it was a fine, entertaining read. Jarring, yes, but note the lack of judgments until the story has completed. And the art was freakin' great.

[TromaFreak64]

The problem people have with this issue is, unfortunately, unsurprising.

It's the same thing that happened with Loeb's arc on Wolverine, which I still contest was a good story, intelligent, and entertaining.

"Boohoohoo, wah wah wah, it doesn't make sense right away from the start!"

Yeah, that's right. Apparently most readers now want everything given to them on a nice, shiny silver platter right away, at the get-go, so they can follow it like it's a pretty little easily-followed line.

...Except not all writers write like that anymore, and it's fairly obvious that Loeb is in a phase where he's not writing in a necessarily linear or linear-clarification manner.

Not that anyone will give it a fair shot, anyway.

Oh well, it was a fine, entertaining read. Jarring, yes, but note the lack of judgments until the story has completed. And the art was freakin' great.

I agree.

The main critiques I am seeing are because things aren't explained - EVERY LITTLE THING isn't explained in the first issue... oh no... what will we do? Seriously though guys, its a 5 issue arc for a reason, if it was supposed to all be told in 1 issue it would be stand alone.

[Colossal Spoons]

Just read #1. Loved the story and the art; Ultimate universe haters be damned :o

[El Bastardo]

There's the Spoons I love so much.

Come here, my past-life brother.

[Anubis]

I felt Loeb should have taken the Corporate Superheroes route. I mean, they've tackled the American Super Imperialism thing, now is the time to take it to the Corporate fat cats. Stark funds the Ultimates and therefore, runs them technically. Stark has shareholders, evil shareholder Justin Hammer or somebody takes control of the company, takes control of the Ultimates. The rest writes itself. People quit, some stay for the fat paycheck, Rival team started up, blah blah blah, Stark butt rapes Hammer, takes control of company back, then just give the book to Ellis for two more volumes or whatever.

[Colossal Spoons]

There's the Spoons I love so much.

Come here, my past-life brother.

I even loved the ridiculous target on Clint's head!

[GNR]

Just read #1. Loved the story and the art; Ultimate universe haters be damned :o

I went in with low expectations and was pretty entertained.I wouldn't say I loved it,but it's far from the "trash" people are calling it.

The Ultimates 2 HC is just sitting here in front of me still wrapped up.Damn finals keeping me occupied.

[Colossal Spoons]

I need to buy the v2 hardcover :up:

[GNR]

http://www.thexaxis.com/misc/ultimates31.htm

Paul O'Brien weighs in on the first issue, and it's pretty grim:

x-axis..pfft

[PhotoJones]

I need to buy the v2 hardcover :up:

You need to drop these crappy Ulitmate books and start reading some good comics, son. :cmad:

[Mogwai]

what would those be?

[PhotoJones]

There are literally too many to list.

[Kahoot]

Don't do the whole list, just some examples.

[El Bastardo]

See, PJ, this is why I only mostly love you.

But Spoons should buy the Ultimates 2 hardcover, yes, and he should read Iron and the Maiden too.

All of you should.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Which Ultimates titles should be dropped?

All of them. :o

[PhotoJones]

Don't do the whole list, just some examples.

Okay. These comics should be purchased before ever purchasing an Ultimate book:

Captain America, Daredevil, Immortal Iron Fist, The Order, New Warriors, Avengers: Initiative, DMZ, Scalped, Fell, Thor, Scott Pilgrim, Atomic Robo, Punisher MAX, Checkmate, Punisher: War Journal, Doktor Sleepless, Black Summer, Loveless, 100 Bullets, Fables, Faker, Suburban Glamour, Hawaiian Dick, Fear Agent, BPRD, Infinite Horizon, The Spirit, Lone Ranger, Hellboy, Sorrow, Mouse Guard, Resurrection, Wormwood, Nova, Invincible, Graveslinger, Blue Beetle, Lazarus, Astounding Wolf-Man, Lobster Johnson, Loners, Black Diamond, Dynamo 5, Brit, Casanova, Incredible Hulk, The Programme, Proof, The Secret History, The Killer, Northlanders, X-Factor, X-Men, Zero Killer, Iron Man, Annihilation Conquest, Elephantmen, Runaways, Umbrella Academy, The Sword, Local, Crawl Space and Detective Comics, among many, many others.

[LouFerignoDemon]

I thought you forgot Dynamo 5, I was gonna get all beligerent. :o

[PhotoJones]

It's there. :) :up:

[Kahoot]

Captain America
They stil doing Captain America books even though he's dead?

[PhotoJones]

Yes they are. And they're still awesome.

[Kahoot]

But aren't they kinda missing the main star? Doesn't that just prove he'll be back?

[PhotoJones]

There was never really a doubt that Steve was coming back, anyway.

[Mr. Green]

Okay. These comics should be purchased before ever purchasing an Ultimate book:

Captain America, Daredevil, Immortal Iron Fist, The Order, New Warriors, Avengers: Initiative, DMZ, Scalped, Fell, Thor, Scott Pilgrim, Atomic Robo, Punisher MAX, Checkmate, Punisher: War Journal, Doktor Sleepless, Black Summer, Loveless, 100 Bullets, Fables, Faker, Suburban Glamour, Hawaiian Dick, Fear Agent, BPRD, Infinite Horizon, The Spirit, Lone Ranger, Hellboy, Sorrow, Mouse Guard, Resurrection, Wormwood, Nova, Invincible, Graveslinger, Blue Beetle, Lazarus, Astounding Wolf-Man, Lobster Johnson, Loners, Black Diamond, Dynamo 5, Brit, Casanova, Incredible Hulk, The Programme, Proof, The Secret History, The Killer, Northlanders, X-Factor, X-Men, Zero Killer, Iron Man, Annihilation Conquest, Elephantmen, Runaways, Umbrella Academy, The Sword, Local, Crawl Space and Detective Comics, among many, many others.
Punisher: War Journal shouldn't be purchased at all. :o

[PhotoJones]

That's fine. That's also one book.

[Mr. Green]

But aren't they kinda missing the main star? Doesn't that just prove he'll be back?
Yes. Yes it does...

[Kahoot]

Yes. Yes it does...
That could be one answer or two, there are two quesion though. PhotoJones says that it's fine with out the star yet this looks like your saying it's missing him.

[LouFerignoDemon]

It's there. :) :up:
I saw that, and was appeased. But only for now. :cmad:
But aren't they kinda missing the main star? Doesn't that just prove he'll be back?

If there's ONE thing I love about this book, it's that Cap has kick ass ancillary characters in the form of Sharon, Falcon, and the Widow. I'm even loving the Black Widow here more than I have in a while. In fact, the lack of Cap, and them doing stuff WITHOUT Cap would be a mini I would buy and would VERY much enjoy. But there WILL be a new Cap, and will probably be from that mini of Cap's dying ghost talking to that soldier or something. Or a Cap clone. Or something. (God I hope it's not a Cap clone.)

[Blacklight]

From what I know, the new Cap will have a new costume (with a gun) and be a mystery.

[Mogwai]

hopefully he retains the big star (at least).

[PhotoJones]

Nah, the new Cap is going to be Bucky.

[Blacklight]

Nah, the new Cap is going to be Bucky.
Or that screwball, Hawkeye...:rolleyes:

[PhotoJones]

Hawkeye's too busy being ruined by Bendis. :(

[Kahoot]

Nah, the new Cap is going to be Bucky.
Wasn't Punnisher set to take over? Was that a joke, did that happen already?

[PhotoJones]

Have you ever been in a comic shop before, dude? I'm not trying to be mean, but you're asking questions that someone who doesn't really read comics would ask. I mean, I'm not picking up any Bat-titles at the moment, but I know what the **** is going on through these boards and what I see by glancing at covers, solicits and flipping trough books in the shop.

[T'Jai]

Have you ever been in a comic shop before, dude? I'm not trying to be mean, but you're asking questions that someone who doesn't really read comics would ask. I mean, I'm not picking up any Bat-titles at the moment, but I know what the **** is going on through these boards and what I see by glancing at covers, solicits and flipping trough books in the shop.
lol you guys had a lot more patience than I, I was annoyed by his second question :woot:

[Kahoot]

Have you ever been in a comic shop before, dude? I'm not trying to be mean, but you're asking questions that someone who doesn't really read comics would ask. I mean, I'm not picking up any Bat-titles at the moment, but I know what the **** is going on through these boards and what I see by glancing at covers, solicits and flipping trough books in the shop.
Would be kinda hard to get to a comic book store since the only one I know of is about two hours away by train in Glasgow. I'm more of a Graphic Novel or trade paper back kinda guy coz Amazon does them.

[PhotoJones]

Then start getting some decent trades. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

lol you guys had a lot more patience than I, I was annoyed by his second question :woot:

Kahoot is my homeboy! You gotta wait at least 3 questions :o

[Kahoot]

Then start getting some decent trades. :up:
Wanted and Rising Stars are some of the best thing read, I'm likeing 1602 which I'm half way through.

[PhotoJones]

Wanted was pretty horrible. Go get Brubaker's Captain America Omnibus and call it a day.

[Kahoot]

Wanted was great, shame the movie has been raped but the book was good.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Hawkeye's too busy being ruined by Bendis. :(
A good way to fix him? Cap him. :o

[Mogwai]

^^ scarlet witch?

[Colossal Spoons]

Ultimates 3 is def more "adult" that the other 2. You can see Natasha giving Tony a suckjob in one scene and the whole incest thing :eek:

[Mogwai]

wowzers!

[Colossal Spoons]

For realz

[GNR]

Wanted and Rising Stars are some of the best thing read, I'm likeing 1602 which I'm half way through.

I'm a big Millar fan,but even Wanted isn't even near his best stuff and weak IMO.

Rising Stars on the other hand is a phenomenal read,the final act with Anderson on pencils is the best of the 3.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Ultimates 3 is def more "adult" that the other 2. You can see Natasha giving Tony a suckjob in one scene and the whole incest thing :eek:


Sounds like my kinda party.

[GNR]

Ultimates 3 is def more "adult" that the other 2. You can see Natasha giving Tony a suckjob in one scene and the whole incest thing :eek:

You do know the whole incest thing has been known and there for all to see since early issues of Ult X-Men right?

I don't see why people are losing their minds over the fact that Loeb simply made official what was totally obvious and there from the start.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Because it gives our kinky taboo ridden minds release.

[Colossal Spoons]

You do know the whole incest thing has been known and there for all to see since early issues of Ult X-Men right?

I don't see why people are losing their minds over the fact that Loeb simply made official what was totally obvious and there from the start.

Yeah, I'm just talking about its confirmation. I don't like to assume :up:

Sounds like my kinda party.

Can't argue with a good suckjob :o

[LouFerignoDemon]

I meant the incest. :l

[Colossal Spoons]

*clears throat*

Of course :O

[MattXG]

I went in with low expectations and was pretty entertained.I wouldn't say I loved it,but it's far from the "trash" people are calling it.

The Ultimates 2 HC is just sitting here in front of me still wrapped up.Damn finals keeping me occupied.
MattXG vindicated! :woot:

I liked it, too. Loved the art.

So Venom was looking for Scarlet Witch?

Also, Why do people that hate the entire Ultimate line post in this thread?:huh:

[Anubis]

Cuz it's fun to rile up the faithful.

[PhotoJones]

Also, Why do people that hate the entire Ultimate line post in this thread?:huh:

It's like Christianity. We're trying to save you heathens from an eternity of bad comics.

[JewishHobbit]

But on message boards it's the heathens who come into the christian threads telling them how much it all sucks?

[PhotoJones]

That's true. Maybe it's more like the heathens trying to save the Christians from an eterbity of bad comics. Yeah, that's more appropriate. :up:

[JewishHobbit]

There you go :up:

[PhotoJones]

Haha. I said "eterbity." :)

[MattXG]

It's like Christianity. We're trying to save you heathens from an eternity of bad comics.
Have you seen 616 Spider-Man? L O L

Ultimate is the superior line.

BTW:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/841/841886/exclusive-ultimate-line-sneak-peek-20071217010348173.jpg

[Doc Destruction]

Have you seen 616 Spider-Man? L O L

Ultimate is the superior line.


Heh.

Hehe.

Hehehehe...

Hahahaha

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

[PhotoJones]

Have you seen 616 Spider-Man? L O L

Ultimate is the superior line.

Yikes, dude.

[MattXG]

Yikes, dude.
No unmasking to the public.

No Jackpot.

No "The Other"

No "Sins Past"

Just real Spider-Man stories in Spider-Man's best setting. If you can't like that than you clearly have piss poor taste in everything.

[November Rain]

Have you seen 616 Spider-Man? L O L

Ultimate is the superior line.

BTW:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/841/841886/exclusive-ultimate-line-sneak-peek-20071217010348173.jpg
Thor's role in this universe is really starting to bother me, he's like the be all and end all of Alist heavy hitter of the marvel universe.

I preferred it when his powersource was a mystery, he seems to be taking too much of the limelight these days...

besides he went up against magneto in ultimate war and he got his ass kicked. Actually he got his ass kicked a lot in that arc...:confused:

[PhotoJones]

No unmasking to the public.

No Jackpot.

No "The Other"

No "Sins Past"

Just real Spider-Man stories in Spider-Man's best setting. If you can't like that than you clearly have piss poor taste in everything.

So, because Marvel's botching 616 Spider-Man, that makes the Ultimate line better than the whole of 616?

[MattXG]

So, because Marvel's botching 616 Spider-Man, that makes the Ultimate line better than the whole of 616?
Ultimates > Avengers as well. :heart:

And yes, that makes the Ultimate line better than the whole of 616.

[PhotoJones]

Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, X-Factor, Iron Man, X-Men, Loners, and the Order are all better than anything Ultimate related. :up:

[squeekness]

Have you seen 616 Spider-Man? L O L

Ultimate is the superior line.

BTW:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/841/841886/exclusive-ultimate-line-sneak-peek-20071217010348173.jpgThat looks great. I don't mind Thor kicking a little ass. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Thor's role in this universe is really starting to bother me, he's like the be all and end all of Alist heavy hitter of the marvel universe.

besides he went up against magneto in ultimate war and he got his ass kicked. Actually he got his ass kicked a lot in that arc...:confused:

Colossus owned that ass in Ultimate War :D

...so, who's going to make the first gay joke? :rolleyes:

[Spade]

Ultimates > Avengers as well. :heart:

And yes, that makes the Ultimate line better than the whole of 616.

I like Ultimate Spider-Man as a comic, but that's just absurd. :o