View Full Version : Marie Antoinette - the trailer
terry78
12-08-2005, 09:17 PM
http://progressive.stream.aol.com//aol/us/moviefone/movies/2005/marieantoinette_023756/marieantoinette_trlr_01_fhywet_dl.mov
Let zem eat cake.
Riven
12-09-2005, 08:03 AM
Yum.
green
12-09-2005, 09:24 AM
cool teaser.
Hoedowned
12-09-2005, 12:16 PM
It was good...in a weird, funny, freaky sort of way.
kypade
01-15-2006, 11:43 PM
is this the only thread on this trailer? if so, someone else comment. if not, please point me to the thread with more than two posts. thanks.
CrAzYMoFo
01-16-2006, 01:29 AM
Cool trailer... too bad we gotta see poor Kirsten get her head chopped off. :(
green
04-17-2006, 12:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma7.jpg
green
04-17-2006, 12:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma6.jpg
Octoberist
04-17-2006, 12:49 PM
In many ways, when I think about it, I do feel bad for Marie Antoinette back then. It just got out of control for her..
BatMatt
04-17-2006, 01:33 PM
she's executed by decapitation correct?
I dont remember too much about the French Revolution except "let them eat their cake" and le droits de le homme
My vengeance
04-17-2006, 01:37 PM
The resemblance between Marie Antoinette and Kirsten Dunst isn't all that striking to me.Peculiar casting choice.Perhaps they were thinking of something along the lines of Claudia in Interview with the vampire ?
CapBeerCino
04-17-2006, 01:38 PM
Whats up with the music?
What a weird trailer!
green
04-22-2006, 05:21 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/marieantoinette2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/marieantoinette1.jpg
Jack Bauer
04-22-2006, 06:45 PM
So another Coppola casts a family member as a lead.
Shuley
04-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Sophia Coppola is Francis Ford Copppla's daughter,Kirstin Dunst is the lead role in the film
green
04-22-2006, 06:59 PM
Sophia Coppola is Francis Ford Copppla's daughter,Kirstin Dunst is the lead role in the film
Psst Shuley,
I think Jack is talking about Jason Schwartzman being in it, he's Sophias cousin.;)
DarthSkywalker
04-22-2006, 07:28 PM
Damn does this look good. Can't wait.
DarthSkywalker
04-29-2006, 04:53 PM
New Trailer.
http://www.allocine.fr/webtv/acvision.asp?nopub=1&cvid=18603777&player=QT&debit=HD&emission=
Darth Elektra
04-29-2006, 05:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/ma3.jpg
Cool trailer. I wonder whats happening in this picture.
green
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
New Trailer.
http://www.allocine.fr/webtv/acvision.asp?nopub=1&cvid=18603777&player=QT&debit=HD&emission=
Nice, Thanks.:up:
She's not even doing the generic aristocratic accent!! BOLLOCKS!!!
green
04-29-2006, 05:52 PM
She's not even doing the generic aristocratic accent!! BOLLOCKS!!!
She's got a nice butt though.
GoldenAgeHero
04-29-2006, 07:28 PM
ugh i hate films like these. theyre so gay! and to be honest with you guys some of those clothing designs are highly exaggerated. i hope this film doesnt get nominated for best set nor cloth design.
Hobgoblin
04-29-2006, 07:46 PM
I like historical dramas, but I hate it when a director doesnt even try to make it accurate. Sophia Coppola knows that Marie Antoinette never said "Let them eat cake" but decided to put it in the movie anyway.
DarthSkywalker
04-29-2006, 09:27 PM
Cool trailer. I wonder whats happening in this picture.
My money is on eating a lot of cake.
ugh i hate films like these. theyre so gay! and to be honest with you guys some of those clothing designs are highly exaggerated. i hope this film doesnt get nominated for best set nor cloth design.
I absolutely love it. Period pieces with style, never bore me especially when they have a writer that can keep it following.
I like historical dramas, but I hate it when a director doesnt even try to make it accurate. Sophia Coppola knows that Marie Antoinette never said "Let them eat cake" but decided to put it in the movie anyway.
One line will kill this film? One line she very well may not say? She said it was in, never who said it. You give Coppola far to little credit.
GoldenAgeHero
04-29-2006, 09:36 PM
My money is on eating a lot of cake.
I absolutely love it. Period pieces with style, never bore me especially when they have a writer that can keep it following.
One line will kill this film? One line she very well may not say? She said it was in, never who said it. You give Coppola far to little credit.
so you like period pieces that arent even accurate, wow.
Gamma Ray
04-29-2006, 09:48 PM
People think she said "Let them eat cake", but she didn't. The whole supposed line was "If they can't afford bread, let them eat cake", but she didn't mean cake as we know it. Cake was a term used for bread that was baked with less flour, thereby lowering the cost.
Just wanted to note that...
DarthSkywalker
04-29-2006, 10:16 PM
so you like period pieces that arent even accurate, wow.
How accurate do you want them? To the point of boredom? THe Untouchables would be unwatchable if they had actually made an "accurate" film. Any story worth putting on film needs to have such a dramatic punch added to them that they never are all that accurate.
If the film flows with strong dialogue and is a visual fest i couldn't really care less how accurate it is. Not like we can offend someone who died over 200 years ago. Oh and its a movie.
People think she said "Let them eat cake", but she didn't. The whole supposed line was "If they can't afford bread, let them eat cake", but she didn't mean cake as we know it. Cake was a term used for bread that was baked with less flour, thereby lowering the cost.
Just wanted to note that...
Trust me i know. Certain History buffs at other sites have mentioned this about six thousand times. At least your nice about it.
terry78
04-30-2006, 11:50 AM
Marie - "You can't get off if you don't get on."
Hobgoblin
04-30-2006, 07:29 PM
One line will kill this film? One line she very well may not say? She said it was in, never who said it. You give Coppola far to little credit.
I'm not saying that one line will kill the movie, but if this one easily avoided mistake made it into the film than there may well be many more mistakes.
Kurosawa
04-30-2006, 08:04 PM
From the looks of the trailer, I don't think it's a serious scholarly look at her life. It looks more like a parody. Although it won't be easy to top Mel Brooks' French Revolution in History of The World Part I:
http://www.leffa-arviot.com/arvostelut/m/mel_brookss_history_of_the_world_part_1/01.jpg
"It's GOOD to be the King!"
Spidey-Bat
04-30-2006, 08:26 PM
I smell bomb all over.
LostSon88
04-30-2006, 08:53 PM
I see London...
I see France...
I see Dunst without underpants!
:D
green
05-24-2006, 02:47 PM
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/14657640.htm
Coppola's 'Marie Antoinette' earns middling response at Cannes
DAVID GERMAIN
Associated Press
CANNES, France - Sofia Coppola may have a bumpy road to match her father's feat of winning the main honor at the Cannes Film Festival.
Reaction at the Cannes Film Festival was mixed Wednesday for her "Marie Antoinette," with some admiring its youthful energy but French critics booing the American filmmaker's take on a pivotal time in France's history.
There were equal amounts of applause and catcalls after the first press screening of "Marie Antoinette," one of 20 films competing for the top prize at the 59th Cannes festival. Sofia's father, Francis Cord Coppola, won in 1979 with "Apocalypse Now."
Coppola initially said she was disappointed to hear about the booing, but later conceded it could be a tough sell for an American filmmaker to present her unorthodox take on a key figure in another country's heritage.
"We always knew that the French are protective of their history, and that's one of the challenges," Coppola, 35, told The Associated Press. "But I wanted to show it in France first, because we made it here and it takes place here."
An Academy Award winner for her "Lost in Translation" screenplay, Coppola adapted her latest movie from Antonia Fraser's biography of Antoinette, the 18th century queen whose extravagant ways preceded - and have been blamed for helping to incite - the French Revolution in which she eventually was beheaded.
"Marie Antoinette" features Kirsten Dunst - the star of Coppola's first film, "The Virgin Suicides" - as the Austrian aristocrat married off in a political union at age 14 to Louis XVI (Jason Schwartzman), heir to the French throne.
The film uses period costumes, and Coppola received permission from the French government to shoot in the palace of Versailles in the locations where events took place.
Yet Coppola presents the story through a 21st century filter, Marie Antoinette's party-girl ways accented by modern pop culture trappings. The driving soundtrack includes Bow Wow Wow doing "I Want Candy" and a cover of "Fools Rush In," while trendy Manolo Blahnik shoes were used to create stylized variations on designer footwear of the era.
"Marie Antoinette," which is scheduled for U.S. release Oct. 13, casts the title character as a well-intentioned teen who was ill-prepared by her mother (Marianne Faithfull) to handle the pressures of court life. The film also features Rip Torn, Judy Davis, Asia Argento and Steve Coogan.
Young Marie is seen as an object of gossip over the years it took her nervous husband to consummate the marriage and produce an heir. Louis seemingly is more interested in hunting and his hobby of making keys.
At a news conference for the film, Coppola was asked if Marie Antoinette was an 18th century variation of the frustrated women on TV's "Desperate Housewives."
"I've never seen 'Desperate Housewives,' but I think, here's this woman, wife, whose husband is not paying attention to her, so she's staying out partying and going shopping," Coppola said. "We've heard that story before."
"Marie Antoinette" was the latest entry in the 12-day festival's main competition that has failed to live up to expectations of critics eager for a film to embrace amid a generally dreary lineup.
The most notable dud was Richard Kelly's sprawling "Southland Tales," starring Sarah Michelle Gellar and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in a combination of black comedy and sci-fi thriller about Los Angeles on the brink of apocalypse in the near future. "Southland Tales" was greeted with almost universal derision.
Richard Linklater's consumer satire "Fast Food Nation" also earned a halfhearted response from Cannes viewers, while Ken Loach's "The Wind That Shakes the Barley" was viewed as a sturdy drama about the fight for Irish independence but not a film worthy of the Palme d'Or, the festival's prestigious top honor.
Since French critics' reaction to "Marie Antoinette" is unlikely to influence the awards jury, "Marie Antoinette" remains a viable contender for the Cannes prize - along with Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu's "Babel," a multicultural drama featuring Brad Pitt and Cate Blanchett, and Pedro Almodovar's "Volver," with Penelope Cruz in the tale of three generations of women.
aaron
05-24-2006, 02:48 PM
Hmmm
green
05-24-2006, 03:04 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=18849
Heads Up
Empire sees Marie Antoinette…
Another day, another controversial Cannes screening – well, controversial if you're French. This morning saw the first screening of Sofia Coppola's latest, Marie Antoinette, which, based on the novel by Antonia Fraser, follows the life of the Austrian princess turned French queen who was a symbol of late 18th century decadence and lost her head come the French Revolution.
Shot with crisp elegance and featuring a superb soundtrack (including The Cure, Phoenix, New Order and Siouxie And The Banshees, whose Hong Kong Garden plays at a masque ball with excellent A Knight's Tale-style anachronicity), it showcases a great lead performance from Kirsten Dunst, whose wigs become so immense it’s a wonder her neck didn't snap. But Coppola's decision to limit the often light-hearted drama to Antoinette's mostly frivolous time in Versailles and avoid displaying much of the revolution at all didn't go down with some French critics, who clearly felt their history was being mistold.
We're guessing it was mainly this Gallic contingent who delivered the cluster of boos which resonated around the cavernous Lumiere cinema (matched, it should be pointed out, by applause), but when this response was mentioned to Coppola at the press conference afterwards, she seemed rather flustered.
"I didn't know about the boos at the screening," she said. "That's news to me." Her cast then leapt to her rescue. Marianne Faithfull (who plays Antoinette's mother) quipped that we must be talking about the Da Vinci Code screening, Kirsten Dunst chipped in with "Well I liked the movie!" and Steve Coogan, who plays Antoinette's mentor, added, "When you make something which is personal and specific, it's inevitable there will be some naysayers and it's better to have that than to have a bland, uniform kind of response to something. I've seen the film and it's consistent with all the qualities that have made her films brilliant in the past and people who love Sofia Coppola films will love this film."
Coppola also proved strangely reluctant to discuss any political undercurrents in her movie. "I don't find it's my role to make political statements," she insisted. "I think there's elements of the story of how these people [in the Versailles court] are so unaware of the world outside of them that I feel it's relevant to today, but I'm not gonna go as far as talk about that topic."
Knightsaber Priss
05-24-2006, 03:33 PM
That was a very odd choice of music for a period piece I must say.
P.S. Don't Let Sofia Copola fool you. The French Revolution was not caused by sending troops to help Revolutionaries in America. That's her revisionist take on things. It was because of the decadent spending of the rich while the poor were being taxed to death. The past is kind of mirroring the present if you ask me.
green
09-06-2006, 11:44 AM
official site :
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/marieantoinette/
poster :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/marie_antoinette_ver3.jpg
PowersOfMind
09-06-2006, 11:53 AM
Well most people outside of history buffs may not know she didnt say that. So what the big deal with it being in there. I love the trailer... does anyone know what song that it and who its by?
I applaude Sophia for switching it up a bit. She's trying to give it a little twist.
Looks like shes trying to give it a lotta twist.
maxwell's demon
09-06-2006, 12:26 PM
as my friend said, "put 'Age Of Consent' playing under anything and you've got a pretty good trailer."
I'd said almost the same thing about Lost In Translation. "give any filmmaker Bill Murray...and JAPAN, and you'll wind up with a pretty good movie."
So as for the movie? eh.
green
09-06-2006, 12:41 PM
Well most people outside of history buffs may not know she didnt say that. So what the big deal with it being in there. I love the trailer... does anyone know what song that it and who its by?
I applaude Sophia for switching it up a bit. She's trying to give it a little twist.
Age of Consent by New Order
SolidSnakeMGS
09-06-2006, 01:17 PM
Does anyone get the title logo?
Movie looks pretty goofy to me.
maxwell's demon
09-06-2006, 01:23 PM
Does anyone get the title logo?
Movie looks pretty goofy to me.
http://www.sfondideldesktop.com/Images-Music/Sex-Pistols/Sex-Pistols-0002/Sex-Pistols-0002.jpg
Kevin Roegele
09-06-2006, 01:43 PM
http://www.joblo.com/big-movie-images/picmarieantoinette-4.jpg
I'll watch this just because Steve Coogan is in it.
Cyclops
09-06-2006, 01:46 PM
This movie just annoys the hell out of me. Marie Antoinette as a valley girl? No thank you.
"Like, we should totally let them eat cake. Like, fer sher!" Kirsten Dunst couldn't have been a much worse choice. I saw some interviews over the movie, and she said that she didn't use a French accent to stress how unique Marie was, and I think that's bull****. She couldn't do it, that's what I think.
7Hells
09-06-2006, 01:49 PM
Sophia Coppola knows that Marie Antoinette never said "Let them eat cake" but decided to put it in the movie anyway.
omg did she actually put that line in the movie? That would piss me off and Im not even French!
I saw some interviews over the movie, and she said that she didn't use a French accent to stress how unique Marie was, and I think that's bull****. She couldn't do it, that's what I think.
I agree, Cyclops, that was more than likely a cop-out. But I've never been confident in Kirstens acting abilities. She plays herself well, and thats fine if you like her, which I do. She is this generations Meg Ryan. I read an interview with Dunst about the movie and she said the only thing I know about her is she didn't say ‘Let them eat cake’ and was beheaded.
She obviously didnt take any time researching the role.
Shot with crisp elegance and featuring a superb soundtrack (including The Cure, Phoenix, New Order and Siouxie And The Banshees, whose Hong Kong Garden plays at a masque ball with excellent A Knight's Tale-style anachronicity)
Well Im glad someone noticed Sofia wasnt the first to use modern music in a period piece. Though Im sure she will get all the credit for it considering A Knights Tale was low budget.
green
09-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Its suppose to be a modrnized retelling of Marie Antoinette yet in a period setting, nowhere has Coppola ever said it would be historically accurate.
Personally Im quite intrigued by it and cant wait to see what shes done.
Some of you are so uptight.:o
maxwell's demon
09-06-2006, 02:01 PM
This movie just annoys the hell out of me. Marie Antoinette as a valley girl? No thank you.
"Like, we should totally let them eat cake. Like, fer sher!" Kirsten Dunst couldn't have been a much worse choice. I saw some interviews over the movie, and she said that she didn't use a French accent to stress how unique Marie was, and I think that's bull****. She couldn't do it, that's what I think.
but...if she was born and raised in Austria, then why would she have a french accent?
7Hells
09-06-2006, 02:15 PM
Her accent was supposed to be Viennese. But it was called "valleynese" by critics.
7Hells
09-06-2006, 02:21 PM
Its suppose to be a modrnized retelling of Marie Antoinette yet in a period setting, nowhere has Coppola ever said it would be historically accurate.
Personally Im quite intrigued by it and cant wait to see what shes done.
Some of you are so uptight.:o Thats why people were upset.
If its a retelling of Marie Antoinette shouldnt it be about Marie Antoinette?
If its as historically inaccurate as some people are saying then she should have given the main character a different name.
Or atleast have the title just be "Marie".
The problem with a film like this is it will just predicate all the nonsense taught in schools and folklore as fact to the youngest generation.
Im betting its a good film though :p
green
09-06-2006, 02:30 PM
Thats why people were upset.
Why exactly, cause she chose to do something different?
That's what being an artist is about.
If its a retelling of Marie Antoinette shouldnt it be about Marie Antoinette?
It is, its just not what people expected.
If its as historically inaccurate as some people are saying then she should have given the main character a different name.
Or atleast have the title just be "Marie".
The problem with a film like this is it will just predicate all the nonsense taught in schools and folklore as fact to the youngest generation.
I think the minute 80's music starts playing it's pretty obvious the film isnt meant to be taken as seriously as some wanted. Coppola stepped out and did something different instead of just making another historical drama, good for her for being innovative and doing something young and fresh. I think the parallell she's trying to make by making it "pop" is kinda ingenious with the Paris's and Lohan's of the day.
green
09-06-2006, 02:32 PM
Im betting its a good film though :p
:D :D :D
7Hells
09-06-2006, 03:12 PM
Why exactly, cause she chose to do something different?
That's what being an artist is about.
Its suppose to be a modrnized retelling of Marie Antoinette
The why was in bold in your quote.
If it isnt accurate it isnt Marie Antoinette.
It is, its just not what people expected.
The uproar isnt about her using pop music. Its about the historical inaccuracies and folklore layed upon the most famous (and beloved?) female in French history.
Coppola stepped out and did something different instead of just making another historical drama, good for her for being innovative and doing something young and fresh. I think the parallell she's trying to make by making it "pop" is kinda ingenious with the Paris's and Lohan's of the day.
But she isnt doing something innovative she is just using another directors idea. She got the music idea from A Knights Tale which is a period piece using modern music. Baz Luhrmann did the same thing, twice...
Youre giving her credit for an idea that isnt her own.
I can see where your enthusiasm is coming from because I felt the same way when I saw Baz Luhrmanns "Romeo and Juliet", and "Moulin Rouge" and Brian Helgeland "A Knights Tale".
Im sure there are many more, "Brick" comes to mind. A 1940's detective story told in modern times.
green
09-06-2006, 03:30 PM
The uproar isnt about her using pop music. Its about the historical inaccuracies and folklore layed upon the most famous (and beloved?) female in French history.
Beloved? They friggin cut off her head.:confused:
And as I said before the film was never suppose to be historically accurate and Coppola has said so. Now if she had said it was going to be and then there were inaccuracies I could see the uproar, otherwise I think its just unfounded.
But she isnt doing something innovative she is just using another directors idea. She got the music idea from A Knights Tale which is a period piece using modern music. Baz Luhrmann did the same thing, twice...
Youre giving her credit for an idea that isnt her own.
I can see where your enthusiasm is coming from because I felt the same way when I saw Baz Luhrmanns "Romeo and Juliet", and "Moulin Rouge" and Brian Helgeland "A Knights Tale".
Im sure there are many more, "Brick" comes to mind. A 1940's detective story told in modern times.
Not one movie you mentioned is based off a real historical figure. This is, although a loose adaptation, therefore it is original IMO.
p.s. I went to highschool with Sophia so Im a bit biased:D
maxwell's demon
09-06-2006, 03:32 PM
heh
7Hells
09-06-2006, 03:46 PM
And as I said before the film was never suppose to be historically accurate and Coppola has said so. Now if she had said it was going to be and then there were inaccuracies I could see the uproar, otherwise I think its just unfounded.
Then she should have shown some respect and named it something different like majority of directors do when making an inaccurate historical movie. And I only say majority because(though I can think of none) Im sure someone has done it before.
Not one movie you mentioned is based off a real historical figure. This is, although a loose adaptation, therefore it is original IMO. Well I can assure you Luhrmann got a lot more crap for his Romeo & Juliet (shakespeare is quite historical) than Sophia is getting. It was not completely accurate in script which is why Luhrmann showed respect by naming it Romeo &(+) Juliet instead of Romeo and Juliet.
All of this, of course, wont stop me from seeing it in the theatre because I bet it is beautiful.
p.s. I went to highschool with Sophia so Im a bit biased:D
lol:hq:
p.s. Im not French, can someone that is french back me up dans l'intéret de cieux !
Cyclops
09-06-2006, 05:29 PM
but...if she was born and raised in Austria, then why would she have a french accent?
If she was born and raised in Austria, why would she have a SoCal Valley Girl accent, fer sher?
SilentType
09-06-2006, 05:38 PM
It's not a historical drama.
I have no intrest in it, but some people need to lighten up.
PowersOfMind
09-06-2006, 06:08 PM
Its suppose to be a modrnized retelling of Marie Antoinette yet in a period setting, nowhere has Coppola ever said it would be historically accurate.
Personally Im quite intrigued by it and cant wait to see what shes done.
Some of you are so uptight.:o
I dont get why people are so uptight about this one line. Do most people know that she never said that... maybe..maybe not. As green said Coppola never said it was going to be strictly historically accurate. MA and her court were basically teenages with power to do whatever they wanted and from what I saw in the trailor it seems like Coppola is focusing more on the socialite angle than the political angle. If she was going the political direction then I could understand its need to be completly accurate.
7Hells
09-06-2006, 11:43 PM
I suppose I just dont have as much faith in the reasoning abilities of the average young teenage girl as most of you do :p
This movie just looks too cool for school. I dont know why they arent using the accents. You could make the story just a teenage girl hanging out in that time period instead of everything being uptight like all other period films, but without the accents it makes it sort of look like someone forgot or everyone's just playing dress up.
Brick, Romeo & Juliet, and Knights Tale all held onto the accents and speaking styles they were going for so maybe Sofia is just doing the exact opposite to be different? I agree that its good to make it interesting I just think maybe shes trying a little too hard.
I loved Brick BTW. Good movie..
green
10-01-2006, 10:32 AM
review
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30263
Now onto head chopping…of royalty. Interestingly the famed beheading is not depicted in Sophia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette. This syncs with the film’s presentation of a mad bubble world out of touch with common day reality. Yes, that’s right, royal aristocratic bourgeoisie totally disconnected from the needs of their people back a war for political reasons. In this case, the war is our war of independence. The king (Jason Schwartzman), who inherited the throne from his royal father (Rip Torn), would rather hunt than attend boring meetings where manipulative advisors essentially make decisions. Good thing stuff like this doesn’t happen today. Do I have to spell sarcasm?
Marie Antoinette is a hypnotic prism of a film that bristles with energy. It mocks regimented protocols and pageantry. It’s a contemplative daydream. It simultaneously appears to rigidly adhere to historical accuracy while flagrantly tossing it to the winds. It’s a fun contemplation on Sophia Copploa’s multi-film themes of disconnection, isolation, and being caught in the machinery of a cold uncaring society.
It’ll be best remembered for its use of 80s tunes, but the soundtrack as whole is a unique beast consisting of opera, classical, aforementioned 80s, and modern composers (e.g. unplugged Aphex Twin). Why the rock? I see two reasons. One, it jeers Versailles’ pompous court. Two, like in Moulin Rouge, the songs telegraph in modern terms what the characters feel. But ultimately it’s all part of Ms. Coppola’s unique vision. She sticks to her guns and bless her for it.
The nauseating opulence of the court is quite stunning. If you love period costumes, this is your wet dream. Shoes, cakes, jewels, parties, candy, campaign, vibrant colors, dogs, ornate art, weave the menagerie in which Marie (Kirsten Dunst) is trapped. Her whole existence is to bear children and follow inane arbitrary protocol. Her mother drives her to tears because she’s not pregnant. Even when she becomes queen she still seems like a prisoner. She’s sensitive and sweet and might have been able to contribute something constructive to society if she’d been born elsewhere. Was Marie Antoinette really like this? She’s depicted with only one additional lover and a brief fling at that. I would think she had a male harem. But I don’t know. It’s all part of Ms. Coppola’s purposely precise compelling dream.
Coppola’s command of visual language is remarkable. There are many outstanding sequences. It’s a wonderful slap in the face to Hollywood cookie cutter film school direction. She’s maturing into a cinematic animal to be reckoned with. European influences hang on her sleeve focused with American showmanship. Her opening shot and credits even tip the hat to Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut. It’s a definitive step forward. No matter how it’s received I hope she continues to defiantly follow her muse.
This was booed by some at Cannes. I guess the French don’t like their history being turned into an intelligent pop confection. I suppose it’s understandable. What will the rest of the world think? I’d be surprised if it was a mainstream hit. The costumes and production design will probably get Oscar nods. I surmise the reception will be divided like Moulin Rouge’s and it’ll develop a cult following. Marie Antoinette has far more on its mind, however, and Sophia Coppola earns her place as one of the most unique filmmakers to emerge in this decade.
-Psychedelic
GoldenAgeHero
10-01-2006, 10:54 AM
I'll skip this film.
Kmack
10-01-2006, 11:19 AM
Thats why people were upset.
If its a retelling of Marie Antoinette shouldnt it be about Marie Antoinette?
If its as historically inaccurate as some people are saying then she should have given the main character a different name.
Or atleast have the title just be "Marie".
The problem with a film like this is it will just predicate all the nonsense taught in schools and folklore as fact to the youngest generation.
It's not THAT inaccurate:o
I can't wait to see this film btw:wow:
Kmack
10-01-2006, 11:32 AM
Awesome review btw. *listens to New Order*
Socrates
10-01-2006, 11:34 AM
I'm actually interested in seeing this movie. :o
green
10-01-2006, 11:40 AM
Awesome review btw. *listens to New Order*
Power, Corruption and Lies is one of my all time favorites.:up:
DACrowe
10-01-2006, 11:46 AM
This looks like it could be really good. It is going to be quite revisonist and the trailer tells you this, but I think it would be a fascinaating story. My only gripe is it deoesn't show her capture and/or her beheading.
Looks good though. And for the record I see little reason whining about historical inaccuacy in film as most historically based films are a load of boollocks. Who here enjoyed Glory, Braveheart, Gladiator, JFK or Gone with the Wind? If you like any of those films than it is hypocritical to crticize this one for inaccuracies then.
Dangerous
10-01-2006, 12:21 PM
Look do we get to see her tits in this or not? That's all I care about.
Kmack
10-01-2006, 01:03 PM
Power, Corruption and Lies is one of my all time favorites.:up:
This movie got me into New Order...praise Sofiahttp://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/purple_honey1/love.gif
MaskedManJRK
10-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Eh, I don't care much about the historical accuracy, it just looks like s**t to me. The only reason I'd watch it is if the answer to this question:
Look do we get to see her tits in this or not? That's all I care about.
Is a yes. :woot:
green
10-01-2006, 01:52 PM
Look do we get to see her tits in this or not? That's all I care about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqvMl9hIHUc
Here the international trailer shows her arse:woot:
Kmack
10-01-2006, 02:09 PM
Looks good though. And for the record I see little reason whining about historical inaccuacy in film as most historically based films are a load of boollocks. Who here enjoyed Glory, Braveheart, Gladiator, JFK or Gone with the Wind? If you like any of those films than it is hypocritical to crticize this one for inaccuracies then.
:up::up:
And yeah, I really wish the capture and beheading was in the film. I think it could have been a really moving/powerful moment in the film.
terry78
10-01-2006, 06:41 PM
This may be period France, but I doubt Ms. Antoinette had ****ed up dental work like that either, so I will overlook the liberties.
kypade
10-01-2006, 07:38 PM
i love this movie.
Kmack
10-01-2006, 10:56 PM
You've seen it already?!
cryptic name
10-02-2006, 12:40 AM
Look do we get to see her tits in this or not? That's all I care about.
word.
actually, i think this movie looks interesting and i'll probably check it out. the sex pistols-eque title font and use of new order has me intrigued enough.
kirsten's tits would be nice though.
Kmack
10-09-2006, 06:17 PM
. . .WHOA.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marie_antoinette/
I didn't see this coming:up:
Tails
10-10-2006, 02:41 PM
Clips from the movie and some of the music used.
"Louis is Made King" - 'Plainsong' by The Cure
"Masquerade Ball" - 'Aphrodisiac' by Bow Wow Wow
"The Birthday Bash" - 'Ceremony' by New Order
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/trailers.php?id=1896
Kmack
10-10-2006, 06:08 PM
Thanx for posting:)
GoldenAgeHero
10-10-2006, 06:52 PM
this film looks like utter ****. its like the princess diary mixed with some quasi period piece **** film. the rating for this film is going to go down once everyone sees it.
Kmack
10-10-2006, 09:53 PM
this film looks like utter ****. its like the princess diary mixed with some quasi period piece **** film. the rating for this film is going to go down once everyone sees it.
Hopefully this starts a new trend and Alicia Silverstone is cast as Cleopatra:) I'd watch it:o:up:
terry78
10-10-2006, 10:15 PM
Hopefully this starts a new trend and Alicia Silverstone is cast as Cleopatra:) I'd watch it:o:up:
Madness! We all know it's Hilary Duff's role she was born to play.:o With Adam Brody as Marc Anthony.
green
10-16-2006, 10:35 AM
. . .WHOA.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marie_antoinette/
I didn't see this coming:up:
It's still rising.:woot:
Holly Goodhead
10-21-2006, 01:59 AM
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Holly Goodhead
10-21-2006, 02:00 AM
I was torn on this film. Beautiful cinematography/costumes/locations...but I felt like I was watching Paris Hilton in 1800 for 2 hours. She really doesn't do anything other than spend money/be sad/drink/eat chocolate/play with dogs.
The first 30 minutes are Ok but then it just starts to go downhill. There's no real continuity..she has sex then the next scene she's giving birth. :huh:
The main reason I went to see it was so I could watch Kirsten Dunst get her head chopped off..but the ending was lame. :cmad:
I give it a C.
Seeing the boom mics really started to annoy me too.
Socrates
10-21-2006, 03:11 AM
It was a pretty decent film. Felt kinda dragged on at times, and the shot of the blue Converse shoes ruined the montage scene for me. Otherwise, I did enjoy it. Funny, though, when people started to boo at the end. Haha.
green
10-21-2006, 09:19 AM
I have to say I enjoyed it.:woot:
I definately think it helps knowing what you are in for before watching it.
Its not your typical period drama that's for sure, the whole thing feels like a dream, which fits with Coppolas other movies. The lack of dialogue is really gonna bore some people so I can completely understand where complaints are coming from, especially in this age of ADD. I felt Dunst did a tremendous job, I loved her moments of looking directly at the camera as if to say "Can you f'in believe this?". My only complaint is that I would have done away entirely with the period music and only gone with the pop soundtrack, I think there were a few moments in the film that could have been boosted out of the drag by it.
Did she get her head chopped off at the end?
If not, I won't see it.
green
10-21-2006, 09:24 AM
^No, it ends before that.
Holly Goodhead
10-21-2006, 11:24 AM
Exactly
Louis "Are you admiring your lime avenue?"
Marie "No, I'm saying goodbye."
the end :down
FaT_tONle
10-21-2006, 12:12 PM
With Flags of our Fathers and the Prestige out... who in their right minds would see this flick....
terry78
10-21-2006, 02:18 PM
With Flags of our Fathers and the Prestige out... who in their right minds would see this flick....
Girls. Never underestimate that demographic.
SolidSnakeMGS
10-21-2006, 02:22 PM
So we can surmise the biggest selling points of this movie would be a) seeing Dunst's tits and b) seeing her get her head lopped off, neither of which are in this movie, therefore no sale :down
Karea07
10-21-2006, 02:27 PM
Kirsten is partially nude in the film, top of ass and tits while she is changing, and she puts on some see thru shirt and you can see her nipples for a while.
Holly Goodhead
10-21-2006, 03:30 PM
You see her nipples once.
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