Time for him to Retire...

[Spideys Sister]

People. I say this as a hard working fan of the Webhead, but he needs to say bye bye and hand his webs over to his daughter and start and all new Spider-Girl movie. No offense to Tobey lovers.
:spidey:

[JackBauer]

sorry, didn't get the punchline...

[tonytr1687]

I actually think it would be interesting for Spidey to die and have MJ be pregnant with a son who ends up having spider-powers himself, but that would just be stupid at this point in the franchise. Wait until the 6th and final film. I mean as different as it is from the comics, it would be completely original to have the main character die in a superhero movie.

[AME]

No, it aint original anymore. Think of "Hero" and "The Matrix: Revolutions".

[Symbiotica]

People. I say this as a long-time reg of these forums, but this person "Spideys Sister" is known to me from another forum, and if you think this thread is silly you ain't seen nothing yet.

Prepare yourselves for an onslaught of bubbleheaded non-thought, the likes of which you have not seen in many a moon. What's going on now in Spoilers will pale by comparison... As proof of what I say, I present the concept of this thread.

[LarryLegend]

People. I say this as a hard working fan of the Webhead, but he needs to say bye bye and hand his webs over to his daughter and start and all new Spider-Girl movie. No offense to Tobey lovers.
:spidey:

You are just very, very stupid aren't you?

What a moronic idea. I'd call it crap but it sullies the good name of crap.

[LarryLegend]

I actually think it would be interesting for Spidey to die and have MJ be pregnant with a son who ends up having spider-powers himself, but that would just be stupid at this point in the franchise. Wait until the 6th and final film. I mean as different as it is from the comics, it would be completely original to have the main character die in a superhero movie.

Kirsten is that you?

[tonytr1687]

No, it aint original anymore. Think of "Hero" and "The Matrix: Revolutions".

Those aren't superhero movies. In the superhero genre we've never seen a franchise end where the hero dies instead of going off to save the day once again.

[tonytr1687]

Kirsten is that you?

Seriously what's so wrong with that idea? If it's done right if could make for some compelling drama in the last film. Now if they decide to stop at 3 or 4 then no. But if they go all the way to 6 I think it would be a neat ending to such a long franchise.

[Quentin Beck]

People. I say this as a hard working fan of the Webhead, but he needs to say bye bye and hand his webs over to his daughter and start and all new Spider-Girl movie. No offense to Tobey lovers.
:spidey::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: OH BOY YEAH! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:<------

[Wally West]

How can you dump Peter Parker? It's not just Super Powers that make a superhero you know. PP is the best comic book alter ego of all time.

[Chris Wallace]

Uh-uh.

[CaptainStacy]

Seriously what's so wrong with that idea? If it's done right if could make for some compelling drama in the last film. Now if they decide to stop at 3 or 4 then no. But if they go all the way to 6 I think it would be a neat ending to such a long franchise.

Well, for me; i wouldn't really consider 6 films a "long franchise"....certainly not compared to James Bond or Star Trek. I personally feel that there's still a plethora of characters (both good & villainous) and storylines worth adapting, that could easily keep the sequels fresh and interesting beyond 6 films...

I wouldn't mind an animated Spider-Girl movie though. Kind of what Marvel and LGF are doing with Avengers this February...

[Chris Wallace]

How can you dump Peter Parker? It's not just Super Powers that make a superhero you know. PP is the best comic book alter ego of all time.
This is the point I've been arguing for a while; what makes a superhero-any superhero-intriguing is the person behind the tights. The person, not the persona. The appeal of the Spider-Man movies is Peter Parker's personal struggles, not his costumed adventures. In that regard he is irreplaceable.
And I really don't think a Spider-Girl movie would sell, anyway.

["Iron Man"]

Spider-Girl?........................................ *walks off to commit suicide*

[Chris Wallace]

That's extreme. But it is a bad idea.

[Chris Wallace]

People. I say this as a hard working fan of the Webhead, but he needs to say bye bye and hand his webs over to his daughter and start and all new Spider-Girl movie. No offense to Tobey lovers.
:spidey:
And how much of a fan can you be if you suggest retiring/replacing the character after two movies?:spidey:

[user123456789]

People. I say this as a long-time reg of these forums, but this person "Spideys Sister" is known to me from another forum, and if you think this thread is silly you ain't seen nothing yet.

Prepare yourselves for an onslaught of bubbleheaded non-thought, the likes of which you have not seen in many a moon. What's going on now in Spoilers will pale by comparison... As proof of what I say, I present the concept of this thread.

lmfao x4

[Jon Hex]

Kill this thread.

[Chris Wallace]

Or not. And while we're at it we can bring Jean Paul Valley into the Batman movies. Let's forget about what makes superheroes interesting & REPLACE THEM ALL!!!!

[Matt Murdock]

that movie would suck, spider-girl takes place in a completely alternate reality, meaning that norman osborn would never have poisoned MJ's food, meaning she would have given a successful birth, which would destroy all of the ensuing sub-plots between the newly reincarnated gg and pp. Why would you destroy a comic legend to get rid of tobey macguire? If you need to get rid of tobey, do it via the coming of riochette dusk and prodigy or w.e. his name was. Then have whoever was one of those guys take his place and tobey takes that one's place. Dont destroy the relationship between gg and spiderman. This franchise hasnt even gotten to a 10th of its potenetial. I think that the producers/actors/writers/directors are viewing each marvel movie as an individual story, whereas they are in fact small events within the greater marvel universe. I think that with the next movies, we should begin to see the marvel universe taking shape because we now have several heros established:
spiderman
x-men
daredevil
fantastic four
the punisher
ghost rider (2007)
blade
and even a tentative iron man movie which may be made

all of these characters should begin to interact, further making the stories more intricate and diverse...therefore in terms of spider-girl, im answering with a qualified no, that should never occur.

[Niobe]

People. I say this as a hard working fan of the Webhead, but he needs to say bye bye and hand his webs over to his daughter and start and all new Spider-Girl movie. No offense to Tobey lovers.
:spidey:

Daughter? What daughter? Did you make Spider-Man 3 and I havent seen it yet?

[Matt Murdock]

you dont know the comic backstory very well do you?

[CConn]

that movie would suck, spider-girl takes place in a completely alternate reality, meaning that norman osborn would never have poisoned MJ's food, meaning she would have given a successful birth, which would destroy all of the ensuing sub-plots between the newly reincarnated gg and pp. Why would you destroy a comic legend to get rid of tobey macguire? If you need to get rid of tobey, do it via the coming of riochette dusk and prodigy or w.e. his name was. Then have whoever was one of those guys take his place and tobey takes that one's place. Dont destroy the relationship between gg and spiderman. This franchise hasnt even gotten to a 10th of its potenetial. I think that the producers/actors/writers/directors are viewing each marvel movie as an individual story, whereas they are in fact small events within the greater marvel universe. I think that with the next movies, we should begin to see the marvel universe taking shape because we now have several heros established:
spiderman
x-men
daredevil
fantastic four
the punisher
ghost rider (2007)
blade
and even a tentative iron man movie which may be made

all of these characters should begin to interact, further making the stories more intricate and diverse...therefore in terms of spider-girl, im answering with a qualified no, that should never occur.Now, whiles I agree with everyone else, the threadmaker's opinion is quite ridicuous, yours appears to be equally non-sensical.

First you seem to confuse Spider-Man comic history with Spider-Man movie history. I highly doubt any instances of food poisoning, pregnancy, and even GG's reincarnation will ever happen on film. Not to mention, if a Spider-Girl film was made, it could, and probably would be, set in a completely different movie "universe."

Secondly, when you speak of Marvel merging it's movie franchises together - with crossovers or whatever - it's simply impossible for the foreseeable future; Marvel's many film properties are owned by various different production studios. Studios who I highly doubt would even consider jointly produced films to be made - or any form of crossover.

For now, Spider-Man is in a completely different universe than X-Men and Punisher, etc. The only crossover you could ever hope for is probably an X-Men/FF thing...but I'd doubt that'll happen either.

[Niobe]

you dont know the comic backstory very well do you?

Maybe I should have added some Smilies so you guys wont get a wrong idea....

[Matt Murdock]

First you seem to confuse Spider-Man comic history with Spider-Man movie history. I highly doubt any instances of food poisoning, pregnancy, and even GG's reincarnation will ever happen on film. Not to mention, if a Spider-Girl film was made, it could, and probably would be, set in a completely different movie "universe."

Shouldnt the movies tell the same story as the comic book? I agree that every detail wouldnt be the same, but the underlying story should wind up at the same resolution. If Spider-Girl the movie was made, then there wouldnt be an option for it to be set in another, parallel, universe, it would be a necessity. And I'm not 'confusing' comic history, im saying that there shouldnt even be a movie history. Spiderman is a comic, meaning that the movies should tell the same story.

Secondly, when you speak of Marvel merging it's movie franchises together - with crossovers or whatever - it's simply impossible for the foreseeable future; Marvel's many film properties are owned by various different production studios. Studios who I highly doubt would even consider jointly produced films to be made - or any form of crossover.

I never said they should merge the films together? as i recall, what i said was

'I think that the producers/actors/writers/directors are viewing each marvel movie as an individual story, whereas they are in fact small events within the greater marvel universe. I think that, with the next movies, we should begin to see the marvel universe taking shape'

I think that the marvel universe, should take shape, in the next movies. I missed where i said that the films should be merged together. I merely said that the films should take place within a singular, unified 'world'--meaning that the appearance of other heros isnt necessary, but there can be references, cant there? :confused: Thats all i was trying to say.

For now, Spider-Man is in a completely different universe than X-Men and Punisher, etc. The only crossover you could ever hope for is probably an X-Men/FF thing...but I'd doubt that'll happen either.

Why just fantastic four and the x-men? :(

[Chris Wallace]

Paragraph 1-sorry, but I disagree. Not only has that NEVER happened, (Joker killing Batman's parents, for example) but it can't & it shouldn't. What's the point in comic fans seeing the movies if they already know how it's gonna turn out. It should be faithful to the source material, yes, but the screenwriters shouldn't be handcuffed by it. Hell, so many comics are intertwined that only a crossover could make them tell the same story. Like Wolverine: His introduction to the Marvel universe was a mission to take down the hulk. Obviously they can't do that on film.
The answer to paragraphs 2 & 3 is the same; because the rights to the Marvel properties are split up amongst various film studios who AREN'T willing to share, there can never be a unified "world" of Marvel heroes on film. FF & X-Men is the only slight posssibility b/c they both belong to Fox. If we saw webbing on the wall of the Baxter Building Columbia would sue the $#%@ out of Fox.

[CConn]

Yeah, that about covers it. Thanks, Chris.

Though, I should mention something I forget previously, Marvel is starting up their own studio, and they'll be making an Avengers film and tons of others ones I can't recall at the moment (:o), now those films have at least a chance of cross overs (obviously, an Avengers film would be a crossover), mentions, homages, however you want to say it. They may all be in the same "universe." If Marvel decides to go that way. But it just won't happen for the characters already on loan to differing studios.

[Chris Wallace]

Precisely.

[supermarvelman]

they should never hand it over to spider-girl hell no

[Chris Wallace]

Neverever-no, never!

[Spider-Bite]

killing spider-man would be stupid, and spider-man is not going to retire just so somebody else can save people. Hello? did you not see spider-man 2? Spider-Man never goes looking for trouble, he just refuses to watch somebody die, when he knows he can save them.

It's called "With Great Power comes great Responsbility!"

[Chris Wallace]

I guess some folks didn't get that memo.

[SuperDude]

This is quite possibly the worst idea ever. :down

[Arcturus]

People. I say this as a hard working fan of the Webhead, but he needs to say bye bye and hand his webs over to his daughter and start and all new Spider-Girl movie. No offense to Tobey lovers.
:spidey:


So, what you're saying is, we drop generations of spider-man mythos for a lesser-title? So many decades of excellent stories from then to now, all dropped for spider-girl? Do you know how dumb this sounds?

Most, if not all repair manuals are far more interesting than you, and far less turgid to read. Some people are has-beens. You are a never-was. Please try to have some small idea of what in the hell you're talking about before you try to post again.

Thankyou, take care and remember to reach for that star!

[Spider-Grrl1516]

Someone made a thread about me? How sweet! (I'm J/K, people)

[Matt Murdock]

...?

[Princess Jade]

Didn't much care for the Spidergirl series..infact where did baby May go after she was given to Alison..it's like she just evaperated into thin air..was there a series of books I missed?.. Any way I think they should definatly avoid the entire clone thing..How can Peter be smart enough to be a scientist but be so silly as to think that he was the clone :S

[Chris Wallace]

The Spider-Girl story is an alternate timeline. As for the Clone Saga, he was duped into thinking he was the clone by a scientist who was a genetics expert. He rigged the equipment & the Peters ran the tests themselves.

[The Kid]

well peter can't be spidey forever. This is how the story will continue after spidey retires. If sony wants to do that story, that'd be ok with me.

[Chris Wallace]

Yes he can! It's a fictional story, so they don't have to age him! How long did the Peanuts gang stay little kids? Snoopy should've died decades ago! There is no reason to replace him at all. Spider-Man has always been the story of Peter Parker, plain & simple. We do not need "Spider-Man Beyond".

[The Kid]

I'll challenge you on that. When spidey comics sales are low, spidey will change, unlike peanuts which isn't being sold like spidey.

[Chris Wallace]

They did change him. And look what happened.

[The Kid]

I don't know what happened. :)

[Chris Wallace]

Ever hear of "The Clone Saga"?

[The Kid]

now I have.

[Chris Wallace]

Long story short, in the 70's one of his enemies cloned him-same face, same powers, same memories-& pitted them against each other. The clone was supposedly killed in an explosion & that was supposed to be the end of it. Then in '94 (5 years later in comic book time)someone got the brilliant idea to not only bring him back, but spin it so that the Peter we knew & loved was the actual clone & the other one-who'd taken to calling himself Ben Reilly-was ther real deal. Peter retired, Ben took over-& fans were outraged. It was a disaster. Moves like this led to marvel's late 90's bankruptcy & the first thing they did to set things right was get rid of the clone.

[The Kid]

ok makes sense

[Matt Murdock]

i liked the clone saga idea, but it just got too confusing in the end.

[Spideys Sister]

That's not what I'm saying guys, what I'm saying is
A) these guys only wanted to do 3 or 4 movies. What happens when the movies stop. Very bored and upset fans.
B) These fans want to see something spidey related before we have remakes of the movie in 13 years.
C) They're going to most likely show Peter and Harry fighting in the end like the comic, Peter kills harry and looses his leg in the process. It'll eventually have ppl who have read the Spider-Girl series thinking they'll be a Spidergirl movies. Rumors will start and with no more Spidey movies, they'll turn to Spider-Girl.

That's what I'm saying.

[Chris Wallace]

NO! Bad, bad, bad idea!

[The Kid]

but I want to see may in live action.

[The Kid]

yesh I do

[Drewsillac]

Is that a joke.....