Ghost Rider bumped to Feb of 2007 (Release Date Thread)

[Hoedowned]

It's August 4 2006. Just thought you should all know.
http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=7950

[HighVoltage]

It's August 4 2006. Just thought you should all know.
http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=7950

Wow That´s great news. Thanks Hoedowned.:up: :ghost:

[Hoedowned]

Your welcome.

[BIGGUN]

August huh? oh well...at least its the 1st week in Aug.
have to admit im suprised that it gonna be that late in the season...would have expected it to be in July. hope this doesnt mean they think GR will underperform at the theater.
who knows...maybe as time goes on and Sony feels its safe they can move it up a week or two. we will see...

[MarvelMovies]

Pretty cool Hoewowned..

I wonder where Coming Soon found out August 4... which does seem a little later then I was hoping for.. maybe late May / June..

They could always move the date around... but I guess August is as good as date as any!

[FlameHead]

It was weird that coming soon posted it on the page before (or at least at the same time) as reporting it as official... which now has happened by the news on the front page
http://www.superherohype.com/news/ghostridernews.php?id=2729

August eh? Strange considering recent reports were late spring/early summer. I dont' mind either way... though that extra month or two is gonna be hell. One good thing about it is the amount of extra time they'll have in post production... or maybe they'll let the actual production time last longer. Who knows.

[Abe]

nothing wrong with august 7th, except that it's 2006 and not 2005.
july 29th is my birthday, so i can see Ghost Rider as my birthday present!
ole`! :)

[elorenishii386]

August 4th, 2006...marking it on my calender right now...hehe...:)

[Covenant Elite]

I'll also have a B-Day movie... Hopefully it's not R, cuz then my friends can't come! I can watch it though!

[RedIsNotBlue]

Wow....I was disappointed when I just thought it might be released early Summer. :(

[MarvelMovies]

I'll also have a B-Day movie... Hopefully it's not R, cuz then my friends can't come! I can watch it though!

It's been confirmed..

PG-13.

Your friends can come too..

[ThatOneGuy]

my birthdays june 6, i can hav it as a present too....

[FlameHead]

If it's still in theatres by October 13th, I'll be celbrating my birthday by seeing the movie for the 600th time.

[BIGGUN]

If it's still in theatres by October 13th, I'll be celbrating my birthday by seeing the movie for the 600th time.

heh...ill already be on my 789th and 1/2 :p
it would be cool if it was still in theaters in Oct. or maybe bring it back for 2 weeks late in the month to take advantage of Halloween. what better way to celebrate that holiday by going to see Ghost Rider in theaters...that would be a nice touch :up:

[Retroman]

Not sure about August. I would have gone with April or May. Ah well.... October would be a great date as well. If that means more time in post i'm all for it.

[FlameHead]

More post the better, I agree.

I really don't want to wait until August though. That's a hellova long time away. I can't really even image where I'll be then. Crazy.

By the way, the only other movie scheduled for Aug 06 right now is a Tim Allan Comedy entitled Zoom.

[crystal_flame6]

It's been confirmed..

PG-13.

Your friends can come too..

Where did you see that it is going to be a PG-13? Last I knew it was going to be R.
They might up the release date if they get it done ahead of sceduele. It would be fun to have it around Halloween, especial if you have some friends that don't know you have a bike....

[BIGGUN]

Where did you see that it is going to be a PG-13? Last I knew it was going to be R.
They might up the release date if they get it done ahead of sceduele. It would be fun to have it around Halloween, especial if you have some friends that don't know you have a bike....

PG13 was announced awhile back...that was the main reason supposedly that Goyer and Norrington left the project back in 2001/2002.

im hoping they move it up to mid July...a really good month for Summer films. its funny that Sony has a kids film called "monster house" (i think) in mid-July...been hoping they could swap the 2 films so that GR would have a few weeks longer in the Summer busy season.

[FlameHead]

Yeah, it's strange they didn't opt for a more mid summer movie. You're right it would be real nice if they swapped those two. The earlier, the better... without jeopardizing the post production time of course.

[crystal_flame6]

I don't care. As long as it comes out, I will be happy. They can always up the release date if they get done earlier.

[FlameHead]

Thats true... though studios do not like to do those sort of things once they set a release date. It messes with peoples heads.

All I know is that the special effects are going to be amazing if they have over a year of post planned... and that's a good thing. A reall good thing.

[crystal_flame6]

They have not release a commercial on TV yet and if they change the date that is the main way to let people know.

[FlameHead]

True...

It's still 19 months away, so it's really too early to tell what's gonna happen. Plus, it seems that studios are shifting their release dates more and more these days.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

Damn 19 months some us better forget about ghost rider for awhile i'd say till october thats a long wait

[BIGGUN]

ive had GR on the brain for about 27 years now...so a measly 19 months is like a walk in the park for me :eek:
as we get closer its gonna be really interesting to see how Sony will promote the film. cant wait to see the theater stand ups and posters....will also need to figure out on how im gonna those things too.

[AmerikazMostWanted]

Do you think ghost rider will be your favorite movie of all time when its released?

[BIGGUN]

well thats a hard question...as there are lots of movies that are my faves.
i think its possible though it could be my personal favorite comic book movie of all time. it really depends on how it turns out though. if Mark really screws up and makes a crappy movie...worst case scenario it would be one of those guilty pleasures that every one has. a film you know is just awful...but you love it just the same...mistakes and all.

[crystal_flame6]

I think that most of the people that like Ghost Rider will agree with you there BIGGUN.

[FlameHead]

I know I do.

It's going to be hard for this movie to become my favorite movie of all time becuase it has a lot of competition. Why it will likely win top spot in my all time list is these boards and how closely I'm following the development of the movie. I feel like were part of it and because of that, I'm more apt to love the outcome.... no matter how it turns out.

[Riding Ghost]

This is an interesting page, I thought if some hadn't seen it, you might like.
It also shows the release date as Aug. 6th not 4th, and says their release planning has something to do with a Doom movie.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808404165

Also it says that the spirit in GR is not Zarathos. I could've swore I read somewhere else that it was Blaze/Zarathos in the movie. Does anybody know what the deal is with that?

[crystal_flame6]

They said they were mixing aspects from both, Johnny and Dan Ghost Riders. Maybe this is one of them. It is also probably a little easier to write in the script as well.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I am actually glad they are mixing the characters. I want the most of Ghost Rider comics they can put into one movie.

[crystal_flame6]

Same here. Plus they have a wide array of villians that they get to pick and choose from. They just might try to pull of a sequel if the first movie goes over well.

[Riding Ghost]

Right. I have no problem with them mixing the two. They both have positives. Its just that I'm certain I read MSJ or somebody like that mentioning Zarathos by name in reference to the movie. I'm wondereing if the web site I linked to is wrong(sense some of the info there has not been updated), or if my memory is wrong, or if I'm right but they changed their mind.

[GhostRider]

I think the site is wrongo.
It'll be zarathos, tho I doubt there will be any mention of the demons real name. Thats why hammer lane and the new series are blaze with zarathos.

[crystal_flame6]

That yahoo site rarely updates and is not very good on what is going on in a movie.

[Retroman]

Oh my god! They've give GR a new release date!

Check it out: http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/futurefilms/ViewFilm.asp?FID=10285

[totalpackage59]

If MSJ finishes shooting GR on time say end June, then it doesnt leave much time to put the pieces together and for promoting what should be a great movie (you really wouldn't want to rush the post production and stuff it up all the hard work).
Or as this is April 1st????????????

[TheVileOne]

Wasn't it supposed to be August 2006? I doubt they moved up the release date 7-8 months. Sounds ludicrous to me.

Plus, I don't think Ghost Rider is a very good movie for Winter programming. Blade Trinity anyone? Didn't work out.

[RedIsNotBlue]

This could just be another dumb and unfunny April Fool's joke. Not true even if it isn't a joke. They also have Jon Voight as part of the cast. :rolleyes:

[BIGGUN]

i doubt this Dec date.....that is more than likely old news which Empire has not updated yet on their site. there would have been an official anouncement about it changing.

Aug 4, 2006 is still the date...

[FlameHead]

Yup, I agree. I trust comingsoon.net more than that page.

[BIGGUN]

Yup, I agree. I trust comingsoon.net more than that page.

Also if you notice they list Voight as part of the cast...which fell through recently. Voight is now just a producer and not in a starring role.
that Dec 05 date was a suggestion made a long time ago before they started pre-production. it was only a estimated release date assuming that Cage would have been available for an early shoot. that didnt pan out of course and everything was pushed back.
they really need to do an overhaul on their GR info section though...

[crystal_flame6]

Most of the websites I have seen need to be seriously updated also. It would have sounded more believable if they had the movie done, but the post-production is going to take a while and they are not done filming yet anyway. They might move the release date later, after they are done filming, but I think that MSJ would tell us about it.

[WarBlade]

I don't think Ghost Rider is a very good movie for Winter programming. Blade Trinity anyone? Didn't work out.
:rolleyes: Blade Trinity is a clear cut example of a movie that wasn't very good. If it did't work out it wasn't because of the release date.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I thought Blade Trinity was a decent movie. Entertaining. It made money in the box office but it is just not liked among most comic book movie fans.

[TheVileOne]

:rolleyes: Blade Trinity is a clear cut example of a movie that wasn't very good. If it did't work out it wasn't because of the release date.

I won't disagree with that WarBlade, but I don't think the Blade movies would've played well over winter regardless.

Anyway, its a dead issue now since the movie is obviously coming out in August of next year.

[psylockolussus]

i hope its true

[MarvelMovies]

As cool as that release would be..

December 31, 2005 is a....

SATURDAY

Movies are never released on a Saturday.. always a Friday.

:D

[FlameHead]

Or wednesday...

Nice to see the Classic Microwave again MM. Brings back memories. So funny...

[crystal_flame6]

I hope that the release date is moved earlier. Even a week would be good enough for me.

[FlameHead]

True enough. Looks like Transformers may be close to the release of Ghost Rider as well. That could cause some problems in the box office. Not much, but some.

[BIGGUN]

True enough. Looks like Transformers may be close to the release of Ghost Rider as well. That could cause some problems in the box office. Not much, but some.


wont be too close as it looks like they want a late November release for Transformers. GR will be out of the theaters by then.....or hopefully on its last legs in the theater..heh
if Sony sticks to the Aug 4 date i dont see any conflict happening between the 2.

[FlameHead]

Oh, I getcha. I though I read that they wanted it during the fall... but I guess it said late fall now that I think about it.

Plus, there's no competition anyway. Ghost Rider would kick arse, hands down.

[Retroman]

Oh, I getcha. I though I read that they wanted it during the fall... but I guess it said late fall now that I think about it.

Plus, there's no competition anyway. Ghost Rider would kick arse, hands down.
Are you sure? Transformers is going to be a HUGE film in my opnion and it's got a bigger fanbase than GR.

[FlameHead]

Perhaps. I'm not really sure about anything. I just have all the faith in the world in the Ghost Rider movie and very little for a Transformer movie... though I am very excited about the prospects of having one.

Are Transformers as big today as they once were? Are they anywhere close to what they were in the 80's? I've fallen out of touch with the whole thing personally.

[crystal_flame6]

They are not very big, only the toys remain, I think. I still hope that Ghost Rider gets moved up to a closer date, August 2006 seems a long way away. Maybe they will if they get the post-production done early.

[FlameHead]

It would be nice to have it as soon as possible, yes. I wouldn't want them to cut production too much though... or well have happen what happened to the X-men movie. Their production lost 6 months and the first movie suffered a little because of it.

I kinda figured Transformers were only big in toys these days. Are there any cartoons still? Like Beast Wars?

[crystal_flame6]

There used to be Transformers: Energeon, but I have not heard of it being on television lately. I have not seen the animal transformers for a long time.
MSJ will not let GR go the same way as X-men. He will get it done in due time, but I hope it is done earlier than planned, so it gets an earlier release date.

[FlameHead]

I think it'll depend on a lot more than just getting the movie done early to get the release date changed. These things are heavily weighed by the production company and aren't usually changed unless they fear major competition. Sometimes they gamble and keep the release date the same (like Punisher) and sometimes they risk confusing most people and change the release date (like FF). Either way, it's a huge gamble.

[murdock_matt]

With filming underway right now (more than a year ahead of release) and with a budget that can't afford post-production special effects for a twelve-month period, do you think it's possible Ghost Rider's release date will be bumped up?

I mean, the film will DEFINITELY be in the can long before August 2006. So what would you think if the date was moved up to Spring of next year? Would this be viewed by everyone as a bad sign?

I'm just having a hard time knowing we have to wait this long when the film will obviously be ready beforehand.

[BIGGUN]

the earliest that im hoping would be between may to july of '06.
Yes...i do think if it was pushed up to April it would look bad....almost like they dont have the confidence that GR would do well in the prime months of the Summer season. early Aug is fine i think although i hope they might be able to push it into late or mid July.
as far as waiting goes...ive waited for this film since it was just started to be talked about wayyyy back in 1983. if i can wait 20+ years for the GR movie i can wait one more and a few extra months. its no big deal really when you realize how long this thing has been in development hell. and i would rather have them take their time w/ almost a year of post production to get everything right than rush it out and end up w/ a crappy looking movie.

[Wonderman]

I Do NOT ever want to see this movie released before it's COMPLETELY ready to go.

[BPrulz182]

If the release date was earlier, in the immorta words of Bill Lumbergh, "That would be greeeaaat." But, the later date just means they can be thorough with it and it means Mark Steven Johnson isn't just delivering another Daredevil. Better that they do it right and make sure they're being thorough in every aspect.

Samuel Jackson! Made painstakingly by me, Samuel L. Jackson! IT'LL GET YA DRUNK!
Dave Chappelle, Chappelle's Show

:spidey:

[InVictus]

I just can't think about when it will finally hit Italy...
I sense i could become very depressed -_-;

[Mr Nick]

I'd always hoped for a Halloween release, to tie in with the vibe of the comic! As much as I want to see it, I wouldn't want it released any earlier than August because late summer should keep it clear of the major, major summer blockbusters. I love Ghost Rider, but he doesn't have the profile of Spider-Man or Superman and wouldn't be able to contend with movies of that size.

I also feel very relieved that they're shooting now and still have well over a year for all the post-production stuff. Compare that to X-Men 3: due out in 12 months and they haven't even finished the script or fully cast it yet. I've got a horrible feeling they're going to rush that one and it'll suck.
:rolleyes:

[Hunter Rider]

the way i see it is starting this far in advance is a good thing,BB started shooting,Last January for A June 2005 release and the quality shows,I think giving MSJ plenty of post-production time is a great idea.The only move i would want to see is to mid-may or July

[BPrulz182]

I also feel very relieved that they're shooting now and still have well over a year for all the post-production stuff. Compare that to X-Men 3: due out in 12 months and they haven't even finished the script or fully cast it yet. I've got a horrible feeling they're going to rush that one and it'll suck.
:rolleyes:

Yeah definitely; that X-Men 3 gives me a bad gut feeling, too bad Bryan Singer is most likely going to deliver a great Superman film and these new guys might possibly deliver a lame X-film. Thank you, Warner Brothers.

Samuel Jackson! Made painstakingly by me, Samuel L. Jackson! IT'LL GET YA DRUNK!
Dave Chappelle, Chappelle's Show

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/spidey.gif

[FlameHead]

If they really plan on releasing X-Men 3 next year, they're crazy. They're completly insane to think it can be ready by then. Insane I say!

Singer... Superman... I dont' care. Give me Ghostie Poo... Yes. I said Ghostie Poo.

I Do NOT ever want to see this movie released before it's COMPLETELY ready to go.

Absolutly. No rush, no bump in time unless the movie is done. And I mean, Done.

[David33]

http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2006/sonypictures/ghostrider/setvisitreport.html


It would be cool!!I never liked the release date of August...GR should be released in May...it would work better at the B.O

[Mr Nick]

Cool little report. Thanks for the heads-up.

From the sound of it, they're swapping X-Men 3 and Ghost Rider's release dates. That makes sense, considering X-Men hasn't even started shooting yet.

So then, Ghost Rider released three months earlier than originally slated? That makes me very happy indeedy. Mw-ha-ha!

:up:

[Hunter Rider]

Great news.it makes sense to switch them around:up:

[RedIsNotBlue]

Good news. August was too late of a release date IMO.

[BIGGUN]

hope so too....May would be the best month.
also looks like the shotgun is indeed confirmed....but as we were talking so very long ago in another thread the gun wont look like an ordinary shotgun. interesting...

still worried about Blackheart though....the previous description of him looking like a "nosferatu like creature" isnt encouraging

[RedIsNotBlue]

Yeah I know a lot of post production is good for a film but until August?? That is crazy. May is perfect.

[FlameHead]

Awesome report! Great find and a great article which speaks about much more than the release date. Awesome.

May eh? I can't argue with that. That would mean that the movie would be out in almost exactly a year. It would start the summer season off with a blast much like Star Wars is doing right now. Awesome. I hope this is true. Not just for GR though either, for X-men too. If they plan on releasin' that in May, they're crazy. Too rushed.

BG, I too am worried about Blackheart. I didn't want hiim to differ too much from his comics in the first place and now he's more vampire than anything (so we here). I dont' understand why they wouldn't go with the comic version of BH. He's so freakin' awesome looking. I just read "Crossroads" and he looks fabulous in that one; all done up in an expensive suit. Nice stuff. Real nice.

[MarvelMovies]

Nice post David.. and excellent report from Latino Review..

If the movie was released in May.. that would be.. woah.

That's 1 year from TODAY!

Maybe it'll be released on my b-day.. :D there's hope

[MarvelMovies]

http://latinoreview.com/films_2006/sonypictures/ghostrider/msj-setinterview.html

Latino Review also got to INTERVIEW MSJ ON SET!

Dang.. lucky people!

:D

[Abe]

This whole report from Wise, I tell you people, take it with a grain of salt.
Wise has not been back here to back up his claims... why? Personally I'm wanting to believe his report was falsified.
Now what I'm really wanting is for MSJ to come here and make another report! :)
But again, please, don't get worked up over Wise's report (unless you really want to). For my health and mental well-being I am not. :)
All the best,
Abe.
PS. As for May 2006? Ole`!!

[GhostRider]

Strange......MSJ says he is staying pretty close to the comics yet hes having grider use a shotgun. Best I can recall gr never used a shotgun, not even the western version. I think the western one used pistols. :confused:


not sure how i feel about that

[HighVoltage]

Good News for Ghost Rider.http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/icon14.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/ghostrider.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/smilies/ghostrider.gif

[GhostRider71]

Sounds like they are taking a page from the second series of GR when Johnny Blaze teamed up with Ghost Rider (only after he tried to rub him out). He had a shot gun that would shoot hellfire.

[David33]

I really hope GR is released in May!!.It has been filming for months,and they have plenty of time until May,but X Men 3 is rushed,they start filming this August and they had planned to release it May 2006...its too rushed,X3 needs more time and should be delayed...

Ghost Rider should open the first weekend of May!!:) .That would be perfect!,
I cant wait for the official announcement!

[WarBlade]

From the sound of it, they're swapping X-Men 3 and Ghost Rider's release dates.
Ghost Rider: Sony
X-Men: 20th Century Fox

Swap? No.
Distributer having a re-think on their release schedule plan to exploit an unexpected and preferable gap in the schedule of all releases, from both company and competitor? I'd be edging to that line of thinking myself. ;)

[David33]

Ghost Rider: Sony
X-Men: 20th Century Fox

Swap? No.
Distributer having a re-think on their release schedule plan to exploit an unexpected and preferable gap in the schedule of all releases, from both company and competitor? I'd be edging to that line of thinking myself. ;)

Yes,but both X Men and GR are Marvel properties,and Marvel has the power to push the release dates....

[Hunter Rider]

Strange......MSJ says he is staying pretty close to the comics yet hes having grider use a shotgun. Best I can recall gr never used a shotgun, not even the western version. I think the western one used pistols. :confused:


not sure how i feel about that

Well he also said he was taking piece's from the Blaze and Ketch universes,so im guessing he has just taken the hellfire shotgun idea from Blaze's participation in the ketch Series

[ThatOneGuy]

cool stuff

[Weadazoid]

I have been saying this for a long time Ghost Rider went into production months ago, there is no reason to not release this movie in May at this pooint, esspecialy when one considers how far behind X men is.

[Mr Nick]

Ghost Rider: Sony
X-Men: 20th Century Fox

Swap? No.
Distributer having a re-think on their release schedule plan to exploit an unexpected and preferable gap in the schedule of all releases, from both company and competitor? I'd be edging to that line of thinking myself. ;)

I didn't mean to suggest that the studios were collaborating. Of course not; they're competitors. What I meant was Marvel pictures presumably is able to exercise some kind of control so two of their properties don't end up butting heads at the box-office.

:rolleyes:

[WarBlade]

What I meant was Marvel pictures presumably is able to exercise some kind of control so two of their properties don't end up butting heads at the box-office.
They might get some input, but those decisions aren't really theirs to make seeing as Marvel's contribution is in the capacity of a co-producer, not a distributor. Distribution companies are quite capable of making decisions about release scheduling, which is after all their side of the business, without having to take any cues from the producers who are more clearly associated with the creative side.

[FlameHead]

I have to disagree on that one. I'm pretty sure that Marvel works close enough with the studios to ensure their properities not face off with one another.

[blades_shades]

http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2006/sonypictures/ghostrider/setvisitreport.html


It would be cool!!I never liked the release date of August...GR should be released in May...it would work better at the B.O

Holy crap I called that totally! It made too much sense not to happen and it ensures quality product from both films.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5795615&postcount=22 Ok ok now bow before me!

[TheVileOne]

Its pretty hilarious people that think Ghost Rider will be next year's Star Wars. It won't come out in May either.

If anything its theatrical BO numbers in the US will be closer to Hellboy.

[Mr Nick]

Its pretty hilarious people that think Ghost Rider will be next year's Star Wars. It won't come out in May either.

If anything its theatrical BO numbers in the US will be closer to Hellboy.

Yeah, everything I've read from Avi Arad and MSJ has been wildly optimistic. It's reassuring to hear that, but I hope they're not setting themselves (and us) up for a big fall. Even if it does have a 100 million'ish budget, even if it does have an A-list actor in the main role, Ghost Rider's still relatively unknown to most movie goers.

I'm keeping my expectations to a realistic level. I daredn't get too hyped up about it because if my favourite hero turns into a cinematic turd I'll just die. Nope, I'm just hoping for a solid, enjoyable, faithful film that doesn't get trounced by a movie with more drawing power. That's all.

:)

[TheVileOne]

It would more likely be trounced by a movie with more drawing power in May than in August. August is where it will stay.

[Hunter Rider]

Its pretty hilarious people that think Ghost Rider will be next year's Star Wars. It won't come out in May either.

If anything its theatrical BO numbers in the US will be closer to Hellboy.

hmmmmm who said it would be next years star wars ?i said i thought it could be the new Terminator and i stand by that ,i think it will grab the audience through it's visuals,Do i think that it will be the #1 box office film of the year ? No,SR,POTC,Mi-3 will all probably beat it and perhaps the Davinci code,but i think it can be a sleeper hit

[WarBlade]

I have to disagree on that one. I'm pretty sure that Marvel works close enough with the studios to ensure their properities not face off with one another.
Pretty sure?

You used the term "studios" in reply to my post that included the distinction between production companies and distribution companies. I've never been a big fan of the movie studio 'produces, promotes and distributes movies' idea since there are numerous examples of different companies forming a chain to get those individual jobs done, so I generally avoid the idea myself. In other words your disagreement is a non sequitur. Not a good case for "pretty sure" IMO.

The point I was making was that the film distributer or distributers are the companies responsible for the distribution of movies. Marvel might like to see movies based off their comics avoid competition, but you have to remember that they sold their production/distribution rights to other companies, those companies in turn hand the distribution over to their distribution branches or partners and at the end of the day Marvel are a few steps removed from the calculations of "how many prints", "where" and "when" to release.

At any rate, Marvel won't have to worry about ensuring their properties not facing off with one another, as you put it. Firstly, the distributers will be limiting/eliminating such conflicts in their own best interest, and secondly, there's only about four Marvel comicbook adaptions per year to juggle in the first place. :)

[TheVileOne]

hmmmmm who said it would be next years star wars ?i said i thought it could be the new Terminator and i stand by that ,i think it will grab the audience through it's visuals,Do i think that it will be the #1 box office film of the year ? No,SR,POTC,Mi-3 will all probably beat it and perhaps the Davinci code,but i think it can be a sleeper hit

Flamehead made the Star Wars comparison.

I just think there's a clear over-estimation of Ghost Rider's BO reception here.

[FlameHead]

Um... I never said that Ghost Rider would have a BO reception like Star Wars. Not many movies will have the reception these days.

What I did say was "It would start the summer season off with a blast much like Star Wars is doing right now". I was mearly stating that it would be the first big blockbuster movie of the season and not one of the last.

On a side note, I'm hoping that it blows Star Wars out of the water... and Titanic and whatever else stands in its way. Gotta have faith.

[spidermanfan07]

http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2006/sonypictures/ghostrider/setvisitreport.html


It would be cool!!I never liked the release date of August...GR should be released in May...it would work better at the B.O

I think it would be cool too. ghost rider is one of my favorite comics of all time. to see it on the big screen would be awesome.:ghost:

[spidermanfan07]

I would like to see The Flash made into a movie. I hear a lot of rumors about new movies. What comic would you like to see made into a movie next?

[TheVileOne]

Um... I never said that Ghost Rider would have a BO reception like Star Wars. Not many movies will have the reception these days.

What I did say was "It would start the summer season off with a blast much like Star Wars is doing right now". I was mearly stating that it would be the first big blockbuster movie of the season and not one of the last.

On a side note, I'm hoping that it blows Star Wars out of the water... and Titanic and whatever else stands in its way. Gotta have faith.
Well I'm going to say right now it won't be the first big blockbuster of the summer movie season. First because it isn't going to come out in May. Second, its not going to do huge business in theatres.

[Mr Nick]

Well I'm going to say right now it won't be the first big blockbuster of the summer movie season. First because it isn't going to come out in May. Second, its not going to do huge business in theatres.

I had a horrible thought this morning after reading about Alan Moore distancing himself from V for Vendetta and a negative script review: what if Ghost Rider comes out after a string of comic film duds? Even if it surpasses our expectations, it could still tank because people are sick of comic movies. Fantastic Four is out soon and I still haven't seen anything that makes me excited about it. That'd be awful.

Oh God, now I'm depressed. Someone tell me it'll be alright. Please!!!

:eek:

[Abe]

people will be excited about super hero movies in 2006, believe me. once the Superman promos hits the cinemas, people will be pumped!
and with ghost rider being the next superhero film after superman. oh boy. good times! :)

[FlameHead]

I'm hoping that by next year people will stop looking at these movies as one lump thing. Just because they source material is from a comic doesn't mean we can put all these movies in the same group. Ghost Rider is going to be much different than Superman, Spider-Man, Batman... and all the rest.

I wish we'd just start looking at these movies as movies.

As for FF, I'm VERY excited about it. I think it looks like a really fun movie.

Well I'm going to say right now it won't be the first big blockbuster of the summer movie season. First because it isn't going to come out in May. Second, its not going to do huge business in theatres.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I prefere to stay hopeful, personally.

[TheVileOne]

I'm hopeful too Flamehead, however I'm also trying to be realistic and not naive.

I also don't see how "different" this movie will be either. Especially when Avi Arad boasts that Mark Steven Johnson is the king of "schmaltz". I realize that Ghost Rider is a very unique character distinct from those you mentioned, but I'm hesitant to believe how different this movie will be from typical Hollywood fare.

[FlameHead]

Oh, it'll be typical Hollywood fare. No doubt about that. My argument is that all comic book movies are not the same and should not be compared to each other.

I take a little offense to being called naive. Just because I want to pull my full trust in something doesn't make me naive. I'm a positive person and always have been; thus I have a positive outlook on things.... especially things I really care about. I see no point coming here and thinking "This movie is gonna suck", "This movie is gonna bomb", "The director sucks", "Nic Cage Blows". What's the point of doing that?

Knowing that MSJ (and probably more of the cast and crew) visit this forum of ours, I want to let him know that I'm behind him on this project. Makin' movies is a stressful thing, especially this type of movie. It's known that the hardcore fans are watchin' and that's a lot to cater too. I rather him come here and read my comments about how I think this movie is gonna blow everything out of the water than to read someone elses saying that this is gonna be a box office flop. But that's just me.

[TheVileOne]

That's all well and good, but this movie still isn't going to be the first big blockbuster of May either way.

[crystal_flame6]

Who cares if it is the first or last block buster film of the year, as long as when it comes out it is as good as most of us hope. All the news and posts from inside the set have set the bars pretty high and I have complete trust in MSJ to break threw those bars and barriers since he did very well with DD, given the task of telling the whole background and a major plot in one movie.
So if MSJ is reading this, Keep up the good work!

[TheVileOne]

Who cares if it is the first or last block buster film of the year, as long as when it comes out it is as good as most of us hope. All the news and posts from inside the set have set the bars pretty high and I have complete trust in MSJ to break threw those bars and barriers since he did very well with DD, given the task of telling the whole background and a major plot in one movie.
So if MSJ is reading this, Keep up the good work!

Who cares? Some people here clearly seem to :) .

And DD was reason enough for me not to have complete trust in Johnson.

[RedIsNotBlue]

As long as Gary Foster doesn't dip his hand into this movie like he did Daredevil then he should just be fine.

[Mr Nick]

Oops. I seem to have started a bit of a ruck here.

Ah, Flamehead, ever the optimist! Love ya, guy. Keep on saying those things. I need to hear that. And I agree totally about Superman; one of the things I'm most looking forward to about Batman Begins is the possibility of a teaser. All they need to do is play the theme and show the 'S' and I'll be beaming like a loony.

On a positive note, I was listening to the Spidey 2 commentary this weekend and both Sam Raimi and Avi Arad praised the staff at Sony Pictures for being so co-operative. Bodes well since our beloved GR is at the same house.

:cool:

[TheVileOne]

Its an audio commentary on a Sony released DVD for a Sony produced movie. What do you think they are going to say about Sony?

And Gary Foster is working on Ghost Rider last I checked.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Its an audio commentary on a Sony released DVD for a Sony produced movie. What do you think they are going to say about Sony?

And Gary Foster is working on Ghost Rider last I checked.

Yeah I know he is but I heard he has a lesser role with Ghost Rider. I heard he was a big part in editing Daredevil the Theatrical Cut and we all know how that turned out. I think MSJ has more control this time around.

[FlameHead]

There's no doubt that MSJ has proven himself with the studio. Avi Arad, with Marvel, speaks very highly of him everytime I hear or read anything from him. That makes me very happy because Avi is da man!

As for Foster, yes, he was a main reason for the lack of movie in the theatrical release of DD... but I can totally understand why that was done. A theatrical release as long and story filled as the directors cut probably wouldn't have worked. Plus, they were following the huge success of Spider-Man and that alone would have influenced the studios decisions on things.

[TheVileOne]

Avi speaks highly of every one. That's his job. When Man-thing was getting made he spoke highly of it. Same for Elektra. I don't see what makes Avi Arad so trustworthy.

Well the theatrical cut of Daredevil didn't work, that's for damn sure :) . I don't see how Spider-man influenced it really other than adding some more CGI. Since the Spider-man movies are longer and more story filled than Daredevil was.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Avi speaks highly of every one. That's his job. When Man-thing was getting made he spoke highly of it. Same for Elektra. I don't see what makes Avi Arad so trustworthy.

Well the theatrical cut of Daredevil didn't work, that's for damn sure :) . I don't see how Spider-man influenced it really other than adding some more CGI. Since the Spider-man movies are longer and more story filled than Daredevil was.

Actually Avi Arad knew Man Thing was a piece of crap that is why he sent it to DVD. It was originally set to be released in theatres. And after a while Arad usually admits where movies went wrong.

[FlameHead]

Yes, that is very true. I see him as a very honest man.

As for Spider-Man's influence, that mainly came from the love story. Because of the success in the fact that the story between Peter Parker and Mary Jane were what sold the movie, Sony revolved DD around Matt and Elektra. As you know, the directors cut is far less about Matt and Ms. Nachios and more about Matt's struggle with himself.

[TheVileOne]

I've yet to see Avi Arad do anything worthy of this "honesty". All I see him do is selling the products, not telling the unbiased truth.

I'm not buying the romance influence from Spider-man at all. Especially when Peter Parker and Mary Jane didn't hook up in the movie, and Elektra and Matt Murdock have that awful love scene.

[Jolie_Desastre]

um.. they had a love scene? oh the kiss it was ok.

i thought it was going to be released in august? oh well the sooner the better! but in good quality

[RedIsNotBlue]

I've yet to see Avi Arad do anything worthy of this "honesty". All I see him do is selling the products, not telling the unbiased truth.

I'm not buying the romance influence from Spider-man at all. Especially when Peter Parker and Mary Jane didn't hook up in the movie, and Elektra and Matt Murdock have that awful love scene.

Of course Arad is not going to bash one of his movies before it is released. What do you think he is...retarded?? Usually after the movie has been out for a while Arad has been known to say what was wrong with the movie and how they can fix it in future sequels.

[TheVileOne]

Do I think he's retarded? No, but the way in which he gushes about the projects isn't what I'd call smart either.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Do I think he's retarded? No, but the way in which he gushes about the projects isn't what I'd call smart either.

THAT IS HIS JOB. Are you not understanding it? He is supposed to be getting people to go see the movie. Of course he is going to gush about movies before they are even released...its called smart business. He is a businessman...not a critic. But he actually talks about films faults and high points after they have been out for a while. He is a good guy.

[TheVileOne]

I know its his job, he just doesn't do a very good job with it :) . When he uses brain farts like "Ben Foster is the SEAN PENN OF THE FUTURE" I mean...who is supposed to believe that? I just appreciate it when some producers are a little more believable when they promote their product.

[Abe]

TheVileOne, have you seen the movie, Hostage? Ben Foster is a great actor in this film. Very believable to be portraying a person I don't like. lol.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I know its his job, he just doesn't do a very good job with it :) . When he uses brain farts like "Ben Foster is the SEAN PENN OF THE FUTURE" I mean...who is supposed to believe that? I just appreciate it when some producers are a little more believable when they promote their product.

Ben Foster is an amazing actor. Better than Sean Penn IMO.

[FlameHead]

He's Great. I really thought he did a fantastic job in Punisher. Man, that intense scene where they're pullin' out his face rings. Dude, he was brilliant there.

[FlameHead]

I still think this is a strong possibility. I feel they'll push X-men to it's spot and release Ghost Rider in May or June. Huge summer movie type thing.

[Batman the 6th]

When is this movie suppose to come out?

[Fantastic-Boy]

August 4,2006

[Batman the 6th]

That long? Damn

[FlameHead]

An update from MSJ; http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188064

-- Is the release date set in stone?

Nope. Sometime in Summer 2006. Which month is up for grabs.

Interesting... our countdown thread could quickley jump from 363 to to 300 or something.

[BIGGUN]

interesting indeed.
we all had a feeling that if the opportunity came Sony would push the release date up. MSJ's statement kindve confirms that.
hopefully something will happen and they can move it from Aug to at least July.

[MarvelMovies]

Summer 2006

May
5~
- Mission: Impossible 3

12~
- Poseidon
- Zoom

May 19~
- The Da Vinci Code
- Over the Hedge

26~
- X-Men 3

June
6~
- The Omen 666

9~
- Cars

16~
- Eragon
- Fast and Furious 3: Tokyo

23~
- Charlotte's Web
- Click

30~
- Superman Returns

July
7~
- Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

14~
- Untitled Will Ferrell NASCAR Comedy

21~
- Lady in the Water
- Monster House

28~
- Garfield 2
- Miami Vice

August
4~
- The Ant Bully
- Ghost Rider (Currently)
- You, Me and Dupree

11~
- Little Man

....

Thanks to http://www.comingsoon.net/movies.php for the info..

I'm not really sure, if Ghost Rider was moved up to earlier date, where it would go...

With Superman Returns, Da Vinci Code, X-Men 3, Pirates 2, MI:3, F and the F 3, and Charlotte's Web...

It's going to be a great summer, so I think that early August is a great opening place... far enough away from Pirates 2 that it will do its major business.. and a week away from Miami Vice, which could be pretty good.

I'd say July 14 or 21, but that's if Pirates 2 was moved... which I don't think will happen.

But.. you never know with the movie industry

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think Ghost Rider could pull off early June.

[TheVileOne]

I think you guys need to understand, Ghost Rider is NOT a summer tentpole. And they are not moving it. August is probably the best place for it for the summer.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think you guys need to understand, Ghost Rider is NOT a summer tentpole. And they are not moving it. August is probably the best place for it for the summer.

Well you see this is the thing. It is going to be finished before Superman Returns and X3 and yet it they are getting much earlier release dates...that is the thing that is bothering me...I don't know why...it just does. They could easily bump it down a month or 2. I personally think they should swap places with X3. And yes I know Marvel might not have the power to do that but that is what I think the best move is.

[MarvelMovies]

I think Ghost Rider could pull off early June.

X-Men 3 and Da Vinci Code have HUGE fan bases, both of which I plan to see opening day, and I think atleast the following week or so up until June 9 would all be dominated by these 2 franchises.

I'm not sure what Omen 666 is or Cars, but I think that those along with the Box Office majors from May will flood over into June.

Mission Impossible: 3 - Tom Cruise / Trilogy
The Da Vinci Code - Incredible Best Seller by Dan Brown / Tom Hanks / Ron Howard
X-Men 3 - Trilogy / Already know the amount of fans by visiting SHH

Then Superman Returns at the end of June... next Summer is going to be amazing, with 3 comic book movies and plenty of other great ones as well.

The beginning of July is Pirates 2.. so the end of June / begining of July is tough competition with 2 great movies - I plan to see both opening day.

August 4th still seems like the best time..

I don't see it moving up a week to go against Charlotte's Web and Miami Vice, and I can wait the extra month or two... since we've already waited so many years for a perfect Ghost Rider movie.

[TheVileOne]

Well you see this is the thing. It is going to be finished before Superman Returns and X3 and yet it they are getting much earlier release dates...that is the thing that is bothering me...I don't know why...it just does. They could easily bump it down a month or 2. I personally think they should swap places with X3. And yes I know Marvel might not have the power to do that but that is what I think the best move is.

They are being produced by 2 different big studios/corp., Marvel or not. Fox wants it out in May. Sony wants Ghost Rider in August.

Its not uncommon practice for a movie to be finished long before its released in theatres. Just gives studios more time for test screenings and making changes :p .

And Ghost Rider is not high profile enough for an earlier summer release.

[MarvelMovies]

For instance..

Jamie Foxx finished filming "Stealth" before "Ray" was even an idea...

"Stealth" just getting released, granted it's not doing very well... but that's because it's not even close to being as cool or interesting as Ghost Rider

[RedIsNotBlue]

They are being produced by 2 different big studios/corp., Marvel or not. Fox wants it out in May. Sony wants Ghost Rider in August.

Its not uncommon practice for a movie to be finished long before its released in theatres. Just gives studios more time for test screenings and making changes :p .

And Ghost Rider is not high profile enough for an earlier summer release.

I am thinking of X3 when it comes to swapping dates. I believe Ghost Rider would do fine at either date. But X3...I am sorry to say has a big chance of sucking due to the rushed production. It is probably going to use just as much CGI as Ghost Rider and it is done filming and X3 has just begun it. And like I said...I KNOW Marvel doesn't have control over the release dates...but I am saying...those two films swapping dates would give X3 the amount of time it needs and still keep Ghost Rider on a good schedule.

And Ghost Rider is DEFINITELY high profile enough to be a summer hit movie. The cast, the fact that it is a comic book movie, the amount of exposure I think it is going to get. I think Ghost Rider is a pretty well known character among people...they just don't know exactly who he is or what he is about. That is what is going to draw them to this movie.

[TheVileOne]

I am thinking of X3 when it comes to swapping dates. I believe Ghost Rider would do fine at either date. But X3...I am sorry to say has a big chance of sucking due to the rushed production. It is probably going to use just as much CGI as Ghost Rider and it is done filming and X3 has just begun it. And like I said...I KNOW Marvel doesn't have control over the release dates...but I am saying...those two films swapping dates would give X3 the amount of time it needs and still keep Ghost Rider on a good schedule.

Memorial Day is not the date you give a movie like Ghost Rider.

And they are not swapping dates.


And Ghost Rider is DEFINITELY high profile enough to be a summer hit movie. The cast, the fact that it is a comic book movie, the amount of exposure I think it is going to get. I think Ghost Rider is a pretty well known character among people...they just don't know exactly who he is or what he is about. That is what is going to draw them to this movie.

Whatever it is, its NOT a summer tent-pole, and you fanatics need to accept that.

[FlameHead]

I don't understand why you have to come in here VileOne and try and tell us hardcore GR fans that it's not a force to reckon with. None of us will ever accept your way of thinking because we are hardcore fans. It's much like how some people reacted to me posting some comments about Ghost Rider in a Superman thread. Those fans cannot accept this is going to be a money maker as much as Superman will. We're the die hards here man.

Having said that, Ghost Rider is gonna kick the ass out of all the comic movies coming out next year.... All the regular movies too!

It's like Avi says in this little report; http://www.ottawasun.com/Showbiz/Movies/2005/08/07/1162605-sun.html

"For the hardcore group, Ghost Rider is probably the most anticipated one," Arad says. "I think once the world gets to meet him, it will extend this community."

And there's always a chance for any movie to move it's date. Always.

[TheVileOne]

I don't understand why you have to come in here VileOne and try and tell us hardcore GR fans that it's not a force to reckon with. None of us will ever accept your way of thinking because we are hardcore fans. It's much like how some people reacted to me posting some comments about Ghost Rider in a Superman thread. Those fans cannot accept this is going to be a money maker as much as Superman will. We're the die hards here man.


I'm a Ghost Rider fan too, so whatever. I'm also realistic and I'm not going to sugar coat anything.

That you actually claim its going to be as big of a money maker as superman is pretty outlandish.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I'm a Ghost Rider fan too, so whatever. I'm also realistic and I'm not going sugar coat thing.

That you actually claim its going to be as big of a money maker as superman is pretty outlandish.

Ehhh. Who knows honestly? You can make many arguments on how Superman Returns has something good and bad and the same with Ghost Rider. Superman Returns has a tv actor who is literally just coming into the movies playing Superman while Ghost Rider has the A-lister Nic Cage. But Superman is obviously a more popular character so we will see. The box office this year has just been weird. It may be the same next year.

[TheVileOne]

Yes, but look at the magic Singer worked with having a new face in Hugh Jackman as one of the leads in X-men.

Singer is also a much more competent and superior filmmaker, storyteller to Mark Steven Johnson.

Nicholas Cage is an A-lister, but he's also been in a lot of turkeys and bombs as well, some which were very big budget and prolific.

You can say whatever you want, the fact is, people here are simply overestimating Ghost Rider purely based off of their attraction to the character and its clouding their judgement. Even people on the Elektra boards were predicting $70-100 million for that movie. The bat-freaks when Begins was announced claimed that it would make more than the first Spider-man.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Yes, but look at the magic Singer worked with having a new face in Hugh Jackman as one of the leads in X-men.

Singer is also a much more competent and superior filmmaker, storyteller to Mark Steven Johnson.

Nicholas Cage is an A-lister, but he's also been in a lot of turkeys and bombs as well, some which were very big budget and prolific.

You can say whatever you want, the fact is, people here are simply overestimating Ghost Rider purely based off of their attraction to the character and its clouding their judgement. Even people on the Elektra boards were predicting $70-100 million for that movie. The bat-freaks when Begins was announced claimed that it would make more than the first Spider-man.

Hugh Jackman was already a working actor in films but in Australia. He already had experience with films before X-Men. Routh hasn't. Don't try to somehow make it look like Routh is easily going to carry this movie on his shoulders. It is a lot of pressure for a guy who hasn't been in a film yet. I am sure he is going to do just fine though but Nic Cage is just the superior actor.

And for you to say Cage has been in bombs also is irrelevant. EVERY A-list actor has been in something that can be considered a bomb as a movie. And Cage has known and loved this character LONG before he was even up for this role. Can you say the same about Routh?

Now do I personally think Ghost Rider will beat Superman Returns box office will beat Ghost Rider...yes. But will Ghost Rider's be far off...I don't think so.

I am looking forward to both films and I love both characters. I wish them both success. But I kind of see you have a thing against MSJ so I just have to speak out.

[FlameHead]

The fact is, these two movies are not competing for Box office success. Right now, Supes is going to have it's leg done by the time Ghost Rider is even released. They will not be fighting for audiences.

I do find it irratating that you (VileOne) think so lowly of such a great director and storyteller as MSJ. What happened witht he theatrical cut of DD was not his fault. He had very big plans for that movie until the studio got a hold of it and wanted to make it a love story instead of a story about a blind man fighting injustice in both the court room and the streets. If you listened to the commentary on the Directors cut, you cout hear the pain in his words for having to cut the movie the way he did.

Plus, everyone is forgetting about his earlier work, Simon Birch, which was a beautifully crafted piece of work. I personally think he's quite talented at what he does and he's only getting started. Ghost Rider is going to give him that noteriety that he needs. Why? Because he's so freakin' passionate about it.

As for Singer, he indeed is a wonderfully talented man as well. With work like The Usual Suspects and the X-Men franchise, this man has indeed proven himself. But he was not the reason why people went to see the X-men movies. It was because that franchise has more fans than probably any other comic out there. Wolverine alone could (and will) draw people. He is Marvel's cash cow, afterall.

Speakin' of Wolverine, Hugh Jackman has certainly taken the role and ran with it and is definatly doing a great job. Having said that, I don't think he's perfect for the role. I mean, he's a foot taller than the character is supposed to be for one thing. I know, the look of the character means nothing but when a characters personality is heavily evolved from his short brutty nature, it does matter.

But, I digress. This is not a conversation about X-Men. It's about Ghost Rider. In fact, how we progressed into a debate about which will do better in the box office, GR or Supes, I don't know. The fact is, they both have a whole lot going for them and will both respectivly draw people into the theatres... over and over again. I just think it's misinformed (for lack of a better word) to think that Ghost Rider isn't going to do good. It'll break the 100 million dollar mark and go beyond. I have faith in that because the studio has had faith in that with giving it a 100+ million dollar budget... and with a studio who has done fantastic things with the Spider-Man franchise, it's refreshing to know they have faith.

The truth of the matter is, our judgement is not clouded. It's opotomistic. What is clouded is your acceptance in the character, the fantastic cast and the award winning crew who are all working on flaming headed demon... which, by the way, will draw audiences in itself. That image, without even knowing anything about it, will get people in those seats.

Only time will tell...

[TheVileOne]

Hugh Jackman was already a working actor in films but in Australia. He already had experience with films before X-Men. Routh hasn't. Don't try to somehow make it look like Routh is easily going to carry this movie on his shoulders. It is a lot of pressure for a guy who hasn't been in a film yet. I am sure he is going to do just fine though but Nic Cage is just the superior actor.

Routh has been in both film and television pre-Superman, so whatever.

And I'm not saying there isn't pressure or that Routh can carry it. I just think Singer has experience in getting great performances out of inexperienced or actors that are newer to cinema.

And for you to say Cage has been in bombs also is irrelevant. EVERY A-list actor has been in something that can be considered a bomb as a movie. And Cage has known and loved this character LONG before he was even up for this role. Can you say the same about Routh?

It just shows, that while Cage brings his star power to the role, he brings both the good and bad with it. And just because he's in the movie, doesn't automatically make it a hit either.


Now do I personally think Ghost Rider will beat Superman Returns box office will beat Ghost Rider...yes. But will Ghost Rider's be far off...I don't think so.


Ok. I don't know what this is based on. Ghost Rider doesn't have near the appeal nor history that Superman does, and that's a fact.


I am looking forward to both films and I love both characters. I wish them both success. But I kind of see you have a thing against MSJ so I just have to speak out.

I don't have anything against Johnson. Against my better judgement I am giving him another shot with this movie to prove himself after Daredevil. Though I'm annoyed with the whole "he's a big fan so he will get it right" perception. It takes a lot more than that I think.

And Singer is without hyperbole a better filmmaker and storyteller than Johnson.

[TheVileOne]

The fact is, these two movies are not competing for Box office success. Right now, Supes is going to have it's leg done by the time Ghost Rider is even released. They will not be fighting for audiences.

I do find it irratating that you (VileOne) think so lowly of such a great director and storyteller as MSJ. What happened witht he theatrical cut of DD was not his fault. He had very big plans for that movie until the studio got a hold of it and wanted to make it a love story instead of a story about a blind man fighting injustice in both the court room and the streets. If you listened to the commentary on the Directors cut, you cout hear the pain in his words for having to cut the movie the way he did.

I've seen the director's cut. And I'm not that fond of it either, while I believe it is a substantial improvement. It doesn't really fix what I still think are inherent flaws in the movie.


Plus, everyone is forgetting about his earlier work, Simon Birch, which was a beautifully crafted piece of work. I personally think he's quite talented at what he does and he's only getting started. Ghost Rider is going to give him that noteriety that he needs. Why? Because he's so freakin' passionate about it.

I've seen Simon Birch, and it doesn't give me confidence in his abilities either.

He's got passion, but I still think it takes a lot more than that.


As for Singer, he indeed is a wonderfully talented man as well. With work like The Usual Suspects and the X-Men franchise, this man has indeed proven himself. But he was not the reason why people went to see the X-men movies. It was because that franchise has more fans than probably any other comic out there. Wolverine alone could (and will) draw people. He is Marvel's cash cow, afterall.

No. But he is one of the main reasons the movie turned out good despite 20th Century Fox's meddling (something they do a lot with Marvel comics properties).


But, I digress. This is not a conversation about X-Men. It's about Ghost Rider. In fact, how we progressed into a debate about which will do better in the box office, GR or Supes, I don't know. The fact is, they both have a whole lot going for them and will both respectivly draw people into the theatres... over and over again. I just think it's misinformed (for lack of a better word) to think that Ghost Rider isn't going to do good. It'll break the 100 million dollar mark and go beyond. I have faith in that because the studio has had faith in that with giving it a 100+ million dollar budget... and with a studio who has done fantastic things with the Spider-Man franchise, it's refreshing to know they have faith.

I never said it wouldn't do good. I'm just saying people here are over-estimating it and thinking its in league with Superman and Star Wars is just complete silliness. Also the movie is NOT a summer tentpole either.


The truth of the matter is, our judgement is not clouded. It's opotomistic. What is clouded is your acceptance in the character, the fantastic cast and the award winning crew who are all working on flaming headed demon... which, by the way, will draw audiences in itself. That image, without even knowing anything about it, will get people in those seats.


Hey we'll see. It certainly doesn't get them reading the comics very much though.

[blades_shades]

Personally I'd love to see this released in Mid-October about a week or 10 days before Halloween so it'll get a big boost near and just after Halloween. I like the raw footage so far and the "western" tone. Great move. How many comic films do we have to see with glimmering cityscapes with the hero crouched on top of a rooftop gargoyle.

[TheVileOne]

The Punisher had a more "western"/non-urban approach to it.

Didn't see too many glimmering cityscapes in Elektra either. Man-thing takes place in the swamps. All these are recent Marvel movies :) .

[TheVileOne]

edit.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Routh has been in both film and television pre-Superman, so whatever.

And I'm not saying there isn't pressure or that Routh can carry it. I just think Singer has experience in getting great performances out of inexperienced or actors that are newer to cinema.



It just shows, that while Cage brings his star power to the role, he brings both the good and bad with it. And just because he's in the movie, doesn't automatically make it a hit either.



Ok. I don't know what this is based on. Ghost Rider doesn't have near the appeal nor history that Superman does, and that's a fact.



I don't have anything against Johnson. Against my better judgement I am giving him another shot with this movie to prove himself after Daredevil. Though I'm annoyed with the whole "he's a big fan so he will get it right" perception. It takes a lot more than that I think.

And Singer is without hyperbole a better filmmaker and storyteller than Johnson.

Routh has been in one very minor role in a film that has only been shown in a Canadian film festival (EDIT: I am just reading that they pulled the film from the festival so the movie has even yet to be shown.)

...please just stop trying to give Routh some kind of experienced background...he is a tv actor period. I am not saying his acting ability is horrid because from what I have seen from him on tv he has what it takes to pull the role off. But don't try to give him film cred...he doesn't have it.

And that thing I said about Ghost Rider making more than Superman Returns was a typo sorry. Reread again and you will see what I really meant.

And this is Mark Steven Johnson's ultimate movie. It DOES matter that he is such a hardcore fan because he will do everything he can to see that the character is portrayed how he should be. This is his movie...his "baby" if you will. So this is the movie that you can pass judgement on MSJ with because this movie is going to be what MSJ is all about.

And whoever you think is better is simply opinion...so don't try to make it fact. I don't like choosing "who is better" when it comes to film and art. But I will say that Bryan Singer is an amazing director and has what it takes to give us an incredible Supes film. And MSJ is going to be the one who gives us a Ghost Rider movie we want. Best of luck to both of them.

[FlameHead]

Personally I'd love to see this released in Mid-October about a week or 10 days before Halloween so it'll get a big boost near and just after Halloween. I like the raw footage so far and the "western" tone. Great move. How many comic films do we have to see with glimmering cityscapes with the hero crouched on top of a rooftop gargoyle.

I'm not with you on having it released that late my friend. It's hard enough having to wait until august for this think, let alone October. Plus, it'll still be in theatres by Halloween and hopefully will get a nice boost during that time anyway.

If it's going to be moved, I hope it's moved to an earlier date. The begining of July or something.

[TheVileOne]

Yes, they are going to release it between Superman Returns and Pirates Of The Carribbean 2.

Sony is NOT that dumb. They've stated their claim over the August release date and that's around where its going to stay.

[FlameHead]

Nothing is set in stone, as MSJ said himself.

All I'm sayin' is that I'd like to see it before August as that's too long a wait for me. Sheesh, the additude with this one...

[RedIsNotBlue]

Don't worry about Vile, Flamehead. He seems to have some personal problem with MSJ or something else no matter what he says. I have accepted the August 4th release date...and I am hoping for a Halloween dvd release :).

[TheVileOne]

Nothing is set in stone, as MSJ said himself.

All I'm sayin' is that I'd like to see it before August as that's too long a wait for me. Sheesh, the additude with this one...

If you've waited years and years for it, you can wait 12 months or so :) .

All I'm saying is they aren't going to release it before August and that Sony is not so STUPID that they'd release it in early July right between Superman and Pirates 2.

[Hellcycle2000]

Good point VileOne

http://home.comcast.net/~svgjr1975/spikes.bmp

[FlameHead]

If you've waited years and years for it, you can wait 12 months or so :) .

All I'm saying is they aren't going to release it before August and that Sony is not so STUPID that they'd release it in early July right between Superman and Pirates 2.

Nope, I can't wait actually.

Don't worry about Vile, Flamehead. He seems to have some personal problem with MSJ or something else no matter what he says. I have accepted the August 4th release date...and I am hoping for a Halloween dvd release :).

Halloween is unlikely. It takes at least 3-4 months for the dvd release... unless of course the movie is released earlier than Aug... which I will continue to hope for until that date comes.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Nope, I can't wait actually.



Halloween is unlikely. It takes at least 3-4 months for the dvd release... unless of course the movie is released earlier than Aug... which I will continue to hope for until that date comes.

If the dvd came out on Halloween it would be about the same amount of time that Fox had with Elektra's dvd. But I don't know if Sony is going to pull the "Theatrical Edition first, Special Edition" later deal that Fox usually does.

[FlameHead]

That's more than likely what will happen, 2 different releases. As much as I hate it when they do that, that's what it'll be. I think the reason why Elektra came out so quickley is because it did so bad in theatres and they wanted to see if they could make up some money on DVD. They probably thought what happened with Punisher would happen with them... but I guess they didn't realize nothing could make that movie money.

[RedIsNotBlue]

That's more than likely what will happen, 2 different releases. As much as I hate it when they do that, that's what it'll be. I think the reason why Elektra came out so quickley is because it did so bad in theatres and they wanted to see if they could make up some money on DVD. They probably thought what happened with Punisher would happen with them... but I guess they didn't realize nothing could make that movie money.

Well it won't happen anyway. Dvds are mostly released on Tuesdays and the closest is November 1st. I think they will probably do a holiday release date for the dvd.

[FlameHead]

You're probably right on that.

Nothing says Christmas like a flaming headed demon. hehe

[FlameHead]

Um... I was just reading an article on the Montly Fool website and it states that Ghost Rider is coming out on July 8th.

Looking ahead to 2006
Marvel's next big movie is the May 26, 2006 release of X-Men 3. However, my pick for the lower-budget smash hit of the summer is Sony's (NYSE: SNE) July 8 release of the motorcycle-riding Ghost Rider, starring comics fan Nicolas Cage. Add in The Punisher 2, and 2006 looks like a revenue bonanza that analysts have yet to acknowledge.

Analysts predict Marvel will average earnings growth of 15% annually for the next five years, and foresee 7% per-share earnings growth for 2006. Between the movies, the new game deals, and a Lions Gate (NYSE: LGF) partnership that will yield the first of four direct-to-video original animated features, I think Marvel's earnings are underestimated.

Source: http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2005/commentary05081802.htm?ref=foolwatch

Now, this is probably a mistake... but, it certainly made my heart jump.

[Weadazoid]

I don't like the August date personaly I would rather see it come out mid April, far enough away from X Men and as Sin City and Hell Boy prived a god time for fringe comic book movies.

[MarvelMovies]

July 8, 2006....

is a Saturday.

... and with "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" being released on the 7th, which is a Friday..

I'd have to say "Negative" to that one.

[RedIsNotBlue]

July 8, 2006....

is a Saturday.

... and with "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" being released on the 7th, which is a Friday..

I'd have to say "Negative" to that one.

It would be a dumb move IMO...but it could happen. I mean come on...Punisher was actually released on the same day as Kill Bill 2. Some just get cocky and try to take on other movies.

[FlameHead]

Because it's a saturday, this can't be right... Would be awesome if it's sometime earlier, but it can't be this day.

Plus, Avi would never let what happened to Punisher happen again. He has stated that already.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Because it's a saturday, this can't be right... Would be awesome if it's sometime earlier, but it can't be this day.

Plus, Avi would never let what happened to Punisher happen again. He has stated that already.

Yes I know all of that. I am just saying. Bad moves have been made before so they can happen again is all I am saying.

[BIGGUN]

early July would be great....but wont happen unless Pirates moves from its July 7th date. im sure Sony wants to make sure that there isnt any heavy competition w/ GR when it is released and July is pretty much packed as it is.

[FlameHead]

Aye, it certainly is. The only other spot I can really see this movie going is at the beginning of June. That would give it 3 full weeks before Supes is released... but I guess they wouldn't want to release it that close to X-Men either... although, Marvel may have no choice in the matter when it comes to that. They are two different studios after all.

Yes I know all of that. I am just saying. Bad moves have been made before so they can happen again is all I am saying.

You're right, anything could happen in this business.

[BIGGUN]

Filmjerk just reported that GR has been moved to July 14th...

http://www.filmjerk.com/new/article1410.html

will have to wait and see if this info is true or not....

[FlameHead]

Holy crap!

The link was posted on the front page of the hype as well. Coming Soon has changed the date as well. Seems like it could be true.

Damn, it's not going to be easy to alter my countdown thread... but I do love the earlier date!

[RedIsNotBlue]

That sounds like a better date to me.

[BIGGUN]

yeah i hope its true as well...i had guessed that July would be good month to release the film. i would prefer that date as its right before kids started school and pretty much after all of the...eh..."big guns"...made it to theaters :)
only problem i see GR having is w/ Pirates 2.....

[ThatOneGuy]

Awesome. Sounds good...

[RedIsNotBlue]

yeah i hope its true as well...i had guessed that July would be good month to release the film. i would prefer that date as its right before kids started school and pretty much after all of the...eh..."big guns"...made it to theaters :)
only problem i see GR having is w/ Pirates 2.....

Hmm yeah...just realized that. I change my mind. I think it would be smart if Ghost Rider released the day after...July 15th.

[FlameHead]

I don't mind them going up that close to Pirates 2. It shows that they aren't afraid of the competition anyway!

I'm super pumped. 21 days have been taken off the countdown!

[BIGGUN]

Hmm yeah...just realized that. I change my mind. I think it would be smart if Ghost Rider released the day after...July 15th.


Well Pirates is gonna be released on July 7....what i meant was that Pirates will be in theaters in for about a week but could still be some competition for GR.

[FlameHead]

Superman will still be competition at that point... but we're not afraid of that guy.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Well Pirates is gonna be released on July 7....what i meant was that Pirates will be in theaters in for about a week but could still be some competition for GR.

Oh sorry I thought it release July 14th. I wouldn't worry about it. What would Ghost Rider be going up against?

[RedIsNotBlue]

Superman will still be competition at that point... but we're not afraid of that guy.

Well last I heard the Superman budget was pushing 250 million. So who knows what kind of marketing that movie is getting.

[FlameHead]

Still not scared.

[RedIsNotBlue]

It is a 2 week spread so I wouldn't worry either. I am just saying if the budget is that high it better have a huge opening or long lasting legs in the theatre.

[FlameHead]

True. That's a hell of a lot of money.

I'm sure it'll make it back though. I'm just hoping that our boy takes away a few bodies from that flick now that it's a little closer. hehe.

This little friendly rivalry is fun...

[blades_shades]

Per Filmjerk! On the front page here too!

[Uncanny Orb]

Well somebody better star editing the countdown thread!:up:

[Abe]

the good thing about this is, we get to see it earlier! :)
it also comes out a week before my birthday, so it's a nice little early birthday present for me. wahoo!
obviously MJS released things were running smoother than expected in post, and was able to bring the release date back a whiles.
thanks MJS! yet another reason why you rule!

[ultimatefan]

This is good news and shows Sony has confidence in the project. They moved it up from August, which is usually a period where studios drop their less appealling summer projects, to July, which is the height of the season.

[FlameHead]

We've already been talking about this in the "What if the release date was earlier" thread, the "Ghost Rider Competition" thead and the countdown thread has already been updated... not to say it doesn't deserve it's own thread. Just letting you know if you're interested in seeing what some of us have already been saying.

[liesse00]

Oh sorry I thought it release July 14th. I wouldn't worry about it. What would Ghost Rider be going up against?

High, Wide and Handsome it's a Will Ferell NASCAR comedy that comes out the same day.

EDIT-OOOPS never mind just saw that the two movies switched release dates. NEVER MIND

[invincible mann]

one day before my birthday
PERFECT!

[Weadazoid]

I think it would have been cool to release it on

06-06-06

666 get it how cool would that have been.. but eh...thats just me

[totalpackage59]

So what about the rest of the world, when do we get to see it in the Land DownUnder??

Abe Who is MJS??

[liesse00]

I think it would have been cool to release it on

06-06-06

666 get it how cool would that have been.. but eh...thats just me

There is a movie comming out that day it's The Omen 666.

[Weadazoid]

yeah but that is... LAME

Ghost Rider is OG, yo Omen is a rremake and has Amityvile sludge pump written all over it

[InVictus]

Hopefully i will see it before october...

[Abe]

Total Package59, come on! Are you serious?! After all the time you spent on set, hanging with your mates in the cast and the crew, and you don't know who MJS is?
Mark Steven Johnson. The director.
The director I was invited on set to meet and watch film a scene with...
Geez.
:ghost:

[NDX]

Don't know inVictus, according to http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/ghostrider/international/ the release date for Italy is 13-Oct-06.

Now this might be changed since the page still sites Ghost Rider being released here in the States on August 6, '06.

[FlameHead]

one day before my birthday
PERFECT!

wow, what an awesome birthday gift!

[FlameHead]

Total Package59, come on! Are you serious?! After all the time you spent on set, hanging with your mates in the cast and the crew, and you don't know who MJS is?
Mark Steven Johnson. The director.
The director I was invited on set to meet and watch film a scene with...
Geez.
:ghost:

I think he was pokin' fun at MJS when it's supposed to be MSJ. Mark Steven Johnson. S before J.

[totalpackage59]

Well gosh, that's right you stood with him on set, did you get a photo or an autograph.
Memories are one thing but photo's and autographs are yet another.
Yes FlameHead i was takin' the piss out of him

[Abe]

oh, dang it, you got me GOOD tp.
oh, woe is me. whatever shall i do now?
as for your comment about meeting msj, i didn't get his autograph and because we were on set i didn't take any photos. i remember all that was said, and all the other crew whom i met with my friends.
i did spend 4 hours on the set though. the highlight of it was that i was actually invited, and didn't resort to sneaking around like an idiot.

[Caliber]

Great I can't wait to see it sooner.

[Hunter Rider]

This is good news slipping in between POTC2 and Miami Vice in the centre of summer,Also good point Ultimate about this showing Sony's faith

[Abe]

hunter rider, you've brought up a good point, which i'd like to ask;
what movies will Ghost Rider now be going up against?
the only one i can think of is Superman Returns, which comes out around June 30th if i'm not mistaken.
but again, what else is GR going up against?
little help? :)
abe.

[Hunter Rider]

hunter rider, you've brought up a good point, which i'd like to ask;
what movies will Ghost Rider now be going up against?
the only one i can think of is Superman Returns, which comes out around June 30th if i'm not mistaken.
but again, what else is GR going up against?
little help? :)
abe.

http://www.comingsoon.net/moviereleases/jul06.php

This is the line up for July

July 7
- Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=6175)

July 14
- Ghost Rider (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=7950)

July 21
- Lady in the Water (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8983)
- Monster House (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=7836)

July 28
- Garfield 2 (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=9071)
- Miami Vice (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8238)

[Abe]

thanks hunter rider.
some interesting stuff coming in july!

[FlameHead]

For a list of what's released 2 months before and 2 months after Ghost Rider, check out this thread; http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172211. I update every once and a while as new changes happen.

Still super pumped about the date change though...

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Sweet

My Bday is July 15th :up:

[matrix_ghost]

Eck , Ghost Rider taking on Pirates in only their second week.

IMO that is a bad move financially cause no matter how you deny it , Pirates will have legs.

Or it should receive extremly bad reviews and Johnny Depp should leave the project (which as we all know is impossible).

This movie will be PG , so it might help a little at the BO ,but if Ghost Rider hits 100 million domestic it'll definatly be some feat.

[Abe]

friends and i were discussing this last week, that unless a movie has no competition in it's second week, the audience will come back.
primarily a movie (such as POTC2) makes it's biggest impression in it's opening week. that being written, i think GR is going to give POTC2 a run for it's money.
look at how much National Treasure made in it's opening week. Nic Cage can really bring in the numbers.
So, it's all good. :)

[Uncanny Orb]

It's gonna be all in the marketing, when people see that bike and flaming skull they are going to be intrigued.

[FlameHead]

I truly belive that Ghost Rider is going to give a lot of movies a run for their money. Sleeper Hit. No doubt in my mind.

I would LOVE to see this make more on their opening weekend than Superman Returns. Nothin' again Supes but there is that friendly rivalry in the air.

[FlameHead]

And to ad to that, I personally think that we GR fans should boycot seeing Supes opening weekend. Who's with me?

[BrollySupersj]

This is good, I just cant wait for Ghost Rider and Superman Returns to battel eachother at the box office.

[BIGGUN]

And to ad to that, I personally think that we GR fans should boycot seeing Supes opening weekend. Who's with me?


Super who? :)
personaly i dont give a rat's a$$ about superman....was never a fan even as a kid. although i did enjoy the 1st 2 superman movies ...but they never made me want to go out and buy the action figures and i have no desire to buy the dvds. but hey thats just me....
however supes is just gonna win at the BO next year...no doubt about that. Supes has such a long history w/ people its almost a sure bet...especially w/ the hard knocks the US has been recieving lately. i have a feeling that US audiences are looking for a movie hero who isnt treading on the dark side.
im just hoping that at least GR will find an audience big enough to get a sequel greenlit.

[Marvel23]

:ghost: Tight

[blades_shades]

Supes may very well be the #1 Summer film. Not sure if it can beat King Kong's totals carrying over from December. Also too many people are doubting X3. It's going to be bigger and better than X2. Everyone here will be calling Ratner God and wanting him to direct every comic book film. That's the way this fan crap starts. It's always hate first, worship later. Hate the unkown. LOL

X-Men has the advantage of coming out in May which is usually the best month for a Summer release. Better than July 4th.

[Abe]

blade shades,
honestly, which comic book movie has had good fan backing from the get-go. to my mind, nothing. i remember even spider-man was getting torn a new one during production, same as SM2. geez, i STILL hear the bad press about it at times.
GR has been no exception. that being written, you wait til it's release. sleeper hit. it will blow everyone away.
i'm not up for boycotting superman returns either. although i no longer read the superman comics, i will still watch it. same deal with x3 (personally i'm waiting to see what vinnie jones looks like as juggernaut).
so, in suming up, GR will be amazing.
and i was on the set with MJS to see them film one scene. a mate of mine was an extra also. wahoo! :)

[blades_shades]

I'd say Spiderman and X-Men had a good fan backing as far as them showing up to the box office the first week. Fans can whine all they want on the internet but when the movie comes out...they're still fans and they'll be there. That's why Hulk was so HUGE on opening weekend.

[Hellion]

Can't wait!!!!

[Kmack]

I hope this movie is awesome, because I'm really looking forward to it:):up:

[FlameHead]

Oh, I'm positive it will be. You won't be dissapointed.

[TheVileOne]

Told you they wouldn't move it to may or "swap dates" with X-men 3.

If they are moving it to July 14th a week after Pirates 2...I think that's a bad idea. But, since it probably has less than half the budget that Pirates 2 does, it will probably do ok.

[FlameHead]

I guess it's just the waiting game now. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Hellscream]

I checked out the movie's website, and it was updated a few days ago, so that isn't quite dead...

[Hellscream]

On the other hand, never mind, I found out...

[nightstreak]

What movie?????

[FlameHead]

On the other hand, never mind, I found out...

Yeah, probably by scrollin' down about 10 threads to see one entitled "Ghost Rider now July 14th 2006"

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197432

[The Traveller]

What movie?????

This is the Ghost Rider movie forum, so take a wild guess... :rolleyes:

[Advanced Dark]

I don't like July 14th anymore because it's only 1 week after POTC2.

See the link below and tell me what you think.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/release.html

[BIGGUN]

i would like it to move too...but the 21st already has that lady in the water flick and the next weekend after that has miami vice.
wouldnt bode too well for GR if placed in either of those 2 spots.
at least where it is now it only has to go against a superhero parody...and from the looks of things it should be the main action film of that weekend.

[guyverfanboy]

Ghost Rider has some heavy competition. Lets hope it does well at the box office.

[craigaat]

I hope it does well because I'm a fan of MSJ, and obviously GR. In general I'm a fan of all abbreviations

[str8raz0r]

I hope it does well because I'm a fan of MSJ, and obviously GR. In general I'm a fan of all abbreviations

Priceless^^^

The problem is that no matter when you show the movie during the summer, it will have stiff competition. The best bet is to shoehorn it in when it's the only premiering action flick (which it's doing right now) and see what happens.

Remember, just because it might not be #1 in the box office doesn't mean it's a failure. There's still DVD sales and television rights to make $$$.

I think it'll do just fine.

[Advanced Dark]

I wouldn't mind a Pre-Halloween release of Ghost Rider. There are so many films. I honestly think Miami Vice is going to be a huge Dud. Who isn't sick of Colin Farrel chain smoking and tongue kissing men on the cover of every magazine and trying to listen to his interviews is torture. Not only can I not understand him but every 3rd word is a curse so it's bleeped out.

Colin should remake the Mad Max series fro scratch.

[screenamesuck]

Well the fact that it stars Nic Cage will help it at the box office I think. In my opinion they should move the date to 6-6-06, even though it's a tuesday, but why does that matter, look at Kong, he came out on a Wed.

[str8raz0r]

Well the fact that it stars Nic Cage will help it at the box office I think. In my opinion they should move the date to 6-6-06, even though it's a tuesday, but why does that matter, look at Kong, he came out on a Wed.

I doubt, even though the movie is about demons, that the studio would want to attach it to a 6-6-06 release. There's just too much of a stigma attached to those numbers that may be acceptable for a direct to video release (i.e. Children of the Corn 666) but might be a little too evil for a major release.

Also, Kong is far from the first movie to come out on a Wed. It's become fairly standard practice nowadays to release movies on Wed when it's a more hyped release.

[screenamesuck]

I never said it was the first to come out on a Wed, it was just an example. I think moving it to 6-6-06 would actually help it, but that's just my opinion

[Advanced Dark]

Whatever the case is 1 week from Pirates sequel is way to close. No way will Ghost Rider be #1 against Pirates in week 2. I don't see it. In fact the best chance would be to movie close to Halloween. Feed off the horror element of the franchise though that would push earnings further into the year and eliminate the chance of the DVD coming before XMAS.

[screenamesuck]

I think Halloween would be a better time also, but i don't want to wait that long thats why i choose 666 lol

[#1Batmanfan]

Ghost Rider Bumped to 2007
Source: Variety
December 15, 2005


Sony Pictures' $120 million Nicolas Cage-starrer Ghost Rider, based on the Marvel comicbook, has been bumped from its July 14, 2006, release date to President's Day weekend (Feb. 16) 2007.

Variety says that the move won't likely be the last for Sony, which still has six other films to release during the upcoming summer months. The studio has 28 movies lined up for 2006 from its five divisions (Columbia, Screen Gems, TriStar, Revolution and MGM).

Sony's other summer '06 pics include Columbia's The Da Vinci Code (May 19); Columbia/Revolution's Click (June 23); Sony Pictures Animation's Monster House (July 21); Columbia's Will Ferrell NASCAR comedy (Aug. 4); and Revolution's Tim Allen starrer Zoom (Aug. 11) and Little Man (May 26).

"I think everybody is looking at their release schedules in '06 and trying to avoid some of the traffic jams," Sony vice chairman Jeff Blake told the trade. "Seven films for a summer is a lot."

MMarvel Studios must now undo a carefully laid out plan of ancillary tie-in deals. Company declined comment on the matter. New release date gives the studio an expensive action film with which to start 2007.

Marvel's Avi Arad, director Mark Steven Johnson and his producing partner Gary Foster also found the slot to be a lucky one when they released Daredevil in 2003.

[BIGGUN]

Holy %^*...
that isnt good......and MSJ just came in here saying there was going to be tons of stuff going on in regards to GR.
Presidents Day? in febuary 0f 07?! not a good sign at all :(
Mark is this some kind of cruel prank being thrown at us or is this really true?
say it aint so!

[#1Batmanfan]

thats an extra 7 months from july holy crap thats almost a year later man that blows

im pretty sure we'll get a spider man 3 trailer with it though :)

[ThatOneGuy]

That sounds like crap.. I don't wanna wait til February '07...

[BIGGUN]

if thats the case Sony must not think GR will do well in the Summer after all....that doesnt say they have alot of confidence in the movie....ouch.
that will definetly screw up their merchandising plans....wonder if some wont even get scrapped as a result?
im hoping that this is some kind of prank site made by someone to irk GR fans....but if its really from Variety that a pretty damn reliable source :(

[co2]

That's not good news. Not only do you have to wait until the foloowing year, but the pick of that particular release date means that Sony doesn't expect big things from the film and is unwilling to give it a bigger opportunity. Ah, well.