X3 in the press - The Official Magazines thread

[Retroman]

If you see a mention of X-Men 3 in a magazine please post a link and/or scan of the cover and article here. Strictly movie-related please.Thank you.:)

[Retroman]

SCORE Magazine (France) #15

http://www.scoremag.net/IMG/couv41.jpg
http://www.scoremag.net/sommaire/som40.jpg
NOTE: The ice pic is a fake.

Source: http://www.scoremag.net/sommaire/som40.htm
http://www.scoremag.net/#

Orignally spotted by Selina Wayne

[Retroman]

CINE LIVE MAGAZINE (France) # 97
http://www.cine-live.com/modules/DB_Diaporama/images/1134487196.jpeghttp://www.cine-live.com/modules/DB_Diaporama/images/1134487411.jpeg

Source: www.cine-live.com/
http://www.cine-live.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=DB_Diaporama&file=index

[the a1ant]

Great idea, Retro!

FYI To Everyone: Please refrain from posting scans of articles from upcoming Wizard Magazine issues re: X3. The magazine is highly against it, and it will get SHH! in trouble, so only post the cover images. They're very vocal about it, compared to other magazines. :)

[Neto Magnus]

SCORE Magazine (France) #15

http://www.scoremag.net/sommaire/som40.jpg
NOTE: The ice pic is a fake.

Source: http://www.scoremag.net/sommaire/som40.htm
http://www.scoremag.net/#

Orignally spotted by Selina Wayne

holy shiznit, that's the picture I posted. It's in a magazine?? wtf?

[Lightning Strykez!]

holy shiznit, that's the picture I posted. It's in a magazine?? wtf?


Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Someone took your prank seriously! Fools!:o

[Retroman]

holy shiznit, that's the picture I posted. It's in a magazine?? wtf?
Yup they actually fell for it. A lot of sites read these boards cause i see stuff thats posted pop up else where all the time.

Good call on Wizard Ant. :up: I've seen scans from their mag magically 'disappear' from these boards.

[Superman \S/]

CINE LIVE MAGAZINE (France) # 97
http://www.cine-live.com/modules/DB_Diaporama/images/1134487196.jpeghttp://www.cine-live.com/modules/DB_Diaporama/images/1134487411.jpeg

Source: www.cine-live.com/ (http://www.cine-live.com/)
http://www.cine-live.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=DB_Diaporama&file=index

Awesome idea. :up: :up: Can anyone get that Angel pic any bigger?

[Star]

Oh my god someone actually put Netos pic in a mag... this seriously... made my morning...

[Star]

Awesome idea. :up: :up: Can anyone get that Angel pic any bigger?

it's on the USA today site...
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2005/x3/flash.htm

[Superman \S/]

it's on the USA today site...
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2005/x3/flash.htm

Thanks for the link i've seen it and it's awesome but that Angel pic shows it all in a better way i find so it would be cool to see it bigger. :up:

[Neto Magnus]

Oh my god someone actually put Netos pic in a mag... this seriously... made my morning...

hahaha that made my whole day. :) and work really sucked today. I hate the holidays.


btw, is someone here from France who can get that magazine for me? I'd buy it off ya.

[Star]

oh yeah, i just noticed its a bigger version! damn, i wish we had that one..

[Superman \S/]

hahaha that made my whole day. :) and work really sucked today. I hate the holidays.


btw, is someone here from France who can get that magazine for me? I'd buy it off ya.

LOL i wish. :up:

[the a1ant]

Saw some X3 mentions in Previews catalog for February releases...

Wizard Magazine: X-Men 3 exclusive news and photos from the set! (X3 Cover Photo) In comic shops January 25, on newsstands February 7!

Toyfare Magazine: We run down the starts, scripts and toys for all of this Summer's big-budget blockbusters: Superman Returns, PotC, Ghost Rider, X-Men 3, V for Vendetta, and more! Plus, movie toys through history - the high points and the low!

[Kmack]

Whoa, I haven't saw any of those pics yet:eek:

Btw, good thread idea Retro:up:

[CapBeerCino]

Now all we need is a French speaking hypster to translate...

[th3shadowcat]

holy shiznit, that's the picture I posted. It's in a magazine?? wtf?
Do you still have that picture Neto? Can you post up the full size if possible? By the way, did you edit/manip that image? If so, you could earn yourself some extra cash with a lawsuit.. LOL

Seriously though, can you post the pic? I never seen it before :)

[jusblaze21]

i remember that pic itz in the official iceman thread.

[Landis-Wolf]

Great idea, retro. Your the man!

[N_z0]

holy shiznit, that's the picture I posted. It's in a magazine?? wtf?

LOL :D

[LittleMissVixen]

I have seen that photo in chain emails, along with other images from the ice storm.

[aaron]

Nice thread retro

[Selina Wayne]

Awesome idea. :up: :up: Can anyone get that Angel pic any bigger?

I will try to get this mag for next week and scan it for you!!!:up:

[Retroman]

:eek: Calling all french members!

Ciné Live HS (December 17)

http://www.loisir.net/images/news/couv_cinelive_hs_19.jpg

Et côté Hors-série, Ciné Live présente les previews 2006, avec :
X-MEN 3 en couverture
Et les premières photos mutantes !!

100 films événements annoncent l'année 2006, de Super-Man Returns à Mission : Impossible 3, sans oublier Pirates des Caraïbes 2 ou X-Men 3, etc.

Casino Royale signe le retour sur les écrans de JAMES BOND à l'automne 2006, avec pour la première fois Daniel Craig en 007… Ciné Live vous raconte la guerre de succession.

Et pour célébrer dignement l'arrivée de cette nouvelle année cinéma, Ciné Live offre à ses lecteurs 12 affiches de films : Superman Returns - Da Vinci Code - OSS 117 - Pirates des Caraïbes 2 - Les Bronzés 3 – X-Men 3 – Munich – L’âge de glace 2 et bien d'autres encore. Source: http://www.loisir.net/
http://www.info-presse.fr/revue/cine-live-hs_T3104H.htm#

[sebaa]

wow!!!!!!!!! beast in the cover!!!!!

[Halcohol]

wow!!!!!!!!! beast in the cover!!!!!
ehhh.... true.

However, everything's better in Spanish :P

[the a1ant]

An XMF visitor (YYX748) from Singapore scanned this from his local newpaper, including a mini article (at the link below). It's sorta negative article :o

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/yyx748/x1.jpg

Article (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/yyx748/xx3.jpg)

[Halcohol]

f'n rights, ant! nice find :D

[MoiBijou]

ehhh.... true.

However, everything's better in Spanish :P

It's French and it just says (about what we're interested in):

Et pour célébrer dignement l'arrivée de cette nouvelle année cinéma, Ciné Live offre à ses lecteurs 12 affiches de films : Superman Returns - Da Vinci Code - OSS 117 - Pirates des Caraïbes 2 - Les Bronzés 3 – X-Men 3 – Munich – L’âge de glace 2 et bien d'autres encore.

And to celebrate with dignity the arrive of this new year of cine, Ciné Live offers to their readers 12 credits of movies: Superman Returns - Da Vinci Code - OSS 117 - Pirates of the Caribbean 2 - Les Bronzés 3 - X-Men 3 - Ice Age 2 and many more.

X-MEN 3 en couverture
Et les premières photos mutantes !!

X-Men 3 in cover!
And the first mutant photos!!

Source: http://www.loisir.net/

[Electrix]

I hope all the press arnt 'Without Singer it wont be the same' or 'The film wont be as good because Singer isnt there'.

[Retroman]

I know what it say Moi.;) I just wanted to shout to all the french fans to see if this magazine has any new pics.:)

[the a1ant]

*looks @ Electrix avatar*

color??? :eek:

cool...and mind boggling, as always still.... :up:

[Retroman]

I hope all the press arnt 'Without Singer it wont be the same' or 'The film wont be as good because Singer isnt there'.
Curse you Anti-Singerite.:mad: :p

[Halcohol]

^^^Then there's some of us that can't tell the difference between French and Spanish with a quick glance :P

(shame!)

[Retroman]

An XMF visitor (YYX748) from Singapore scanned this from his local newpaper, including a mini article (at the link below). It's sorta negative article :o

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/yyx748/x1.jpg

Article (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/yyx748/xx3.jpg)
Nice Ant.:up:

This is the reason i started this thread. I LOVE seeing stuff like this from other countries.:)

[MoiBijou]

I know what it say Moi.;) I just wanted to shout to all the french fans to see if this magazine has any new pics.:)

I know you know it, but not all the poeple are as astonishingly smart as we are...

Just joking guys, just joking! ;)

There're just an Angel pic (the one looking through the windows), I've just seen it in www.cine-live.com (http://www.cine-live.com)

http://www.cine-live.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=DB_Diaporama&file=index

Follow the arrows!

[Electrix]

*looks @ Electrix avatar*

color??? :eek:

cool...and mind boggling, as always still.... :up:

Its Christmas :D

[Retroman]

I know you know it, but not all the poeple are as astonishingly smart as we are...

Just joking guys, just joking! ;)

There're just an Angel pic (the one looking through the windows), I've just seen it in www.cine-live.com (http://www.cine-live.com)
I think you're confused. They released two editions one on December 14 and one on December 17.:) The HS (with the Beast cover) is their extra-special (super incredible) deluxe end-of-year magazine. It's says Exclusif on the cover, so.....

[MoiBijou]

I think you're confused. They released two editions one on December 14 and one on December 17.:) The HS (with the Beast cover) is their extra-special (super incredible) deluxe end-of-year magazine. It's says Exclusif on the cover, so.....

Sorry, I was wrong :O . Thanks for tell me that! :up:

[Retroman]

Sorry, I was wrong :O . Thanks for tell me that! :up:
No worries.:)

[sebaa]

woww!! cool! i hope my newspaper doo the same with all the main characters pictures!

[MoiBijou]

woww!! cool! i hope my newspaper doo the same with all the main characters pictures!

Are you waiting that here in Spain?!? They'll say something about the movie a week before the release day and just to be compared with a national "awesome" movie about neurotic gays, forty-years old men who are in love with their mothers or philosophical prostitutes. "Oh, look what those Americans do! We're more symbolic and deeper than them!"

F*** it. :mad:

[Electrix]

:eek:

[MoiBijou]

:eek:

My sweet, you can't expect nothing better from Spanish critics... :(

[Superman \S/]

I will try to get this mag for next week and scan it for you!!!:up:

Merci! Thanks alot and i'm looking forward to it. :up: :)

[batfan1028]

Aybody have yet the new wizard magazine with the x men 3 set pics and report?

[Neto Magnus]

Do you still have that picture Neto? Can you post up the full size if possible? By the way, did you edit/manip that image? If so, you could earn yourself some extra cash with a lawsuit.. LOL

Seriously though, can you post the pic? I never seen it before :)

here's the original post. and no it's not a manip, I found it on a site somewhere. It was from a real ice storm.

Latest update from AintItCoolNews.com (http://www.somethingawful.com/isnotitcoolnews/index.html)

New Set Pic Concerning Iceman (contains spoilers)
An update from the Golden Gate Bridge Set
October 19th 2005

Thanks to a tourist named, "Dr. Scratchensniff" who was visiting South Vancouver nearby the Golden Gate Bridge/Alcatraz Set. He was able to get a quick snapshot of what appears to a San Francisco street blanketed with ice. A section of Georgia St. has been shut down for 4 weeks in order for the production crew to film scenes for the upcoming X-Men 3. From what "Dr. Scratchensniff" tells us, it appears to have been a battle scene that takes place between Iceman and Pyro. He also goes on to mention that director Brett Ratner has been spotted on this location. No word however on any of the principal actors on set.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4286/x3setpic7cg.jpg

X-Men 3 is directed by Brett Ratner and stars Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Halle Berry, Shawn Ashmore, Daniel Cudmore, Famke Janssen, James Marsden, Ian McKellen, Anna Paquin, Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, Kelsey Grammer, Vinnie Jones, Ben Foster, Ellen Page, Olivia Williams, Shohreh Aghdashloo, Bill Duke and Michael Murphy.

The film is produced by Lauren Schuler Donner and Avi Arad, from a screenplay by Simon Kinberg, Michael Dougherty, Dan Harris and David Hayter.

The film is scheduled for release May 26, 2006.

[Selina Wayne]

:eek: Calling all french members!

Ciné Live HS (December 17)

http://www.loisir.net/images/news/couv_cinelive_hs_19.jpg

Source: http://www.loisir.net/
http://www.info-presse.fr/revue/cine-live-hs_T3104H.htm#

Wow!!!!:eek::eek:Don't worry , i will do the possible for ya!!!:up::)

[Emma718]

here's the original post. and no it's not a manip, I found it on a site somewhere. It was from a real ice storm.

what's a manip?? lol

anyway so that is apparantly real ay?? if it is how awesome..hmm i wonder how the fight would go then

[th3shadowcat]

here's the original post. and no it's not a manip, I found it on a site somewhere. It was from a real ice storm.
Haha.. and they took it seriously... Thats why I think many people post before reading a single thing, then say how fake or wrong someone was about a picture, etc. <- Which starts flaming! :eek: :)

Anyway, a "manip" is like a photo edit, like we see in some of the Kelsey Grammer as Beast pictures that fans made awhile back. These are called "manips", short for manipulations, which means to "change" or "edit" something.

[french joker]

no news pics in any french mags, i can confirm

[Pickle-El]

Wizard came out today.

[JP]

I thought It wasn't coming out until tomorrow?

[Pickle-El]

whoooops.

[Electrix]

Cool avatar JP!

[Superman \S/]

Wizard comes out tomorrow and i can't wait!

[JP]

whoooops.

Yeah, I'm going by this:
http://www.diamondcomics.com/news_images/23772_52338_1.jpg

I can't wait for tomorrow. All the X3/Superman goodness in one. :up:

And thanks Electrix. Your Christmas one was cool too. :p

[Beastbone]

"Exclusive News from the Set"

Hmm. So, no pictures, I guess or they would slap that on there in big print.

[Superman \S/]

They could show "by sets" maybe something of the mansion....or the Danger room!!

[JP]

"Exclusive News from the Set"

Hmm. So, no pictures, I guess or they would slap that on there in big print.



Retroman informs us that "Worlds of Westfield" have posted a summary of Wizard (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/) magazines upcoming #172 issue. They have the following to say:

WIZARD #172 - 2006 Preview Issue. Get all the buzz on the top comics, movies, DVDs, toys, anime, video games and more. Superman Returns World Premiere. Wizard gives you the most in-depth and behind-the-scenes look at Superman Returns with a 20-page special section. X-Men 3. Get ready for Round 3 as Wizard takes you on-set for director Brett Ratner's first crack at the X-Men Universe. Comics, Comics, Comics. Get the scoop on all your favorite comics, including planned 2006 monster projects like Astonishing X-Men from Joss Whedon and John Cassaday, the continuing saga of DC's Infinite Crisis and the year-long event 52. Read about Ultimates Vol. 3 from Jeph Loeb and Joe Madureira, Neil Gaiman's next Marvel project, Jim Lee and Grant Morrison's Wildcats, Bryan Singer's Ultimate X-Men and more. - Cover Price $5.99 - Westfield Price $5.25

We'll bring you more info regarding this issue as it becomes available. If anyone manages to get hold of an early copy and can transcribe the article then please let us know! Also, if you know of X-Men 3 being mentioned in any current or upcoming magazines/newspapers then please drop us an email so that we can let everyone else know.

UPDATE: This issue of Wizard Magazine will be available in stores at the end of December. A few additional details have been released in regard to the content. We will be treated to additional unseen images of Kelsey Grammer in costume (as Beast), along with behind-the-scenes photography.

UPDATE #2: Wizard Magazine issue #172 is available in US comic stores from December 21st. The magazine will then appear on newstands from January 3rd 2006.


http://www.thexverse.com/news/0187.shtml

[JP]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/wizard/WZ172-SUPERMAN.jpg

Wheee!

[MoiBijou]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/wizard/WZ172-SUPERMAN.jpg

Wheee!

Here we can see it's true Warner retouched "something" that stood out too much from Sup's suit... :D

[Superman \S/]

lol true that. :up: :supes:

[Storm22]

here's the original post. and no it's not a manip, I found it on a site somewhere. It was from a real ice storm.

Sorry, I don't quite get this from reading previous posts. I know that pic is from a real ice storm or something but is Ratner using these shots in the movie for the Iceman vs. Pyro fight?? When did this ice storm take place?If it happened during filming then Ratner definitely should have taken advantage of it, the same way Lucas did for Revenge Of The Sith with shots of Mt. Etna errupting.

[JP]

Here we can see it's true Warner retouched "something" that stood out too much from Sup's suit... :D


:eek: :p

[Superman \S/]

The cover is awesome.

[Earthsea]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/wizard/WZ172-SUPERMAN.jpg

I guess this must be Warners way of trying to get the "Ladies" into the Theaters

[newwaveboy87]

Here we can see it's true Warner retouched "something" that stood out too much from Sup's suit... :D
indeed...:(

[Pickle-El]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/wizard/WZ172-SUPERMAN.jpg

I guess this must be Warners way of trying to get the "Ladies" into the Theaters

Well, the tactic is ....ummm, different. :o

[Neto Magnus]

SCORE Magazine (France) #15

http://www.scoremag.net/IMG/couv41.jpg
http://www.scoremag.net/sommaire/som40.jpg
NOTE: The ice pic is a fake.



Source: http://www.scoremag.net/sommaire/som40.htm
http://www.scoremag.net/#

Orignally spotted by Selina Wayne

ok, my homie in France bought a copy of it for me and translated it as well. here's what it said...

X-Men 3
directed by Brett Ratner with Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart, Famke Janssen, Ian McKellen
release date: may 24

After a couple of production-related problems that created a lot of fuss among the fans, X3 has (finally) started. It was imperative: they needed to finish the film before may 24, 2006. As a consequence, Brett Ratner (Rush Hour) the director who decided to actually do it, isn't really the one we were expecting. Nevertheless, all the actors will be back and the production team remains unchanged. They promised a lot of new mutants and amazing battle scenes. And we do love promises....
__________________________________________

no word on the picture though.

big ups to Matt DiableBlanc for the translation.

[Compi716]

Did anybody get the Wizard? What does it say about X3?

[Strange]

I got Wizard today.

These are not direct quotes but here is some of the info. Not really a whole lot.

They have one pic of Xavier and Logan and Storm and Beast in an office. They also have some either details or speculation, I'm not real sure about the story plot. But it did say something about Wolverine and Storm having a fling and then something happening to Storm and it sends Wolverine into a beserker rage more savage then in X-2. And then of course the Dark Phoenix deal her trying to destroy the planet. Then they say three will lose their powers and two will die. this has to do with the mutant cure that is happening during the movie.

[americanguy96]

I got Wizard today.

These are not direct quotes but here is some of the info. Not really a whole lot.

They have one pic of Xavier and Logan and Storm and Beast in an office. They also have some either details or speculation, I'm not real sure about the story plot. But it did say something about Wolverine and Storm having a fling and then something happening to Storm and it sends Wolverine into a beserker rage more savage then in X-2. And then of course the Dark Phoenix deal her trying to destroy the planet. Then they say three will lose their powers and two will die. this has to do with the mutant cure that is happening during the movie.

Um, you just summed up the AICN script review. :(

[Strange]

Um, you just summed up the AICN script review. :(

Well that is all Wizard tells about. Nothing really new. Just two pages.

[kevinpenni]

I got Wizard today.

These are not direct quotes but here is some of the info. Not really a whole lot.

They have one pic of Xavier and Logan and Storm and Beast in an office. They also have some either details or speculation, I'm not real sure about the story plot. But it did say something about Wolverine and Storm having a fling and then something happening to Storm and it sends Wolverine into a beserker rage more savage then in X-2. And then of course the Dark Phoenix deal her trying to destroy the planet. Then they say three will lose their powers and two will die. this has to do with the mutant cure that is happening during the movie.

three lose their powers wtf? I know there was Mystique. Who else?

two die? Professor and Cyclops? :(

[JP]

Hmm.
3 will lose there powers? I say: Leech, Maystique, and someone else.

2 will die? Xavier and Jean.

[N_z0]

I got Wizard today.

These are not direct quotes but here is some of the info. Not really a whole lot.

They have one pic of Xavier and Logan and Storm and Beast in an office. They also have some either details or speculation, I'm not real sure about the story plot. But it did say something about Wolverine and Storm having a fling and then something happening to Storm and it sends Wolverine into a beserker rage more savage then in X-2. And then of course the Dark Phoenix deal her trying to destroy the planet. Then they say three will lose their powers and two will die. this has to do with the mutant cure that is happening during the movie.

Thanks strange. Was there an X-men 3 cover by any chance? How many pages were the X-men 3 coverage.

Here's hoping this is Wizard in their usual INABILITY to stay in the loop with current happenings/news and nothing more. Ugh re: the fling, two deaths (i'm thinking 2 of these four: Xavier, Cyke, Jean and Mags), 3 depowered (Mystique, Rogue...temporarily, and Jean?)...and why would Logan be more savage after what happens to Storm when in X2, Jean who was supposedly the love of his life, actually "dies". UGh ugh ugh :mad:

They're probably wrong anyways.

I'm guessing the Xavier/Logan/Storm/Beast pic is the one shown in the teaser with Logan and Beast.

[Dark Beast]

hmmm.. interesting..

I got a theory: Mystique loses her powers while testing the cure. Rogue loses her powers out of free will, becauses she's jealous kitty can touch bobby and the third is.... I don't know.

One of the deaths would be Jean (you can't just try to destroy the earth and get away with it).

but this is all theory, people

[kevinpenni]

So Jean dies twice? WTF... she get's screwed.

[Strange]

Not sure if I can post this but I do not have a scanner but here is a photo from my camera.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/atmshawn/DSC01158.jpg

[Strange]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/atmshawn/DSC01159.jpg

[newwaveboy87]

i have a feeling some of Wizard's news is out of date....like always.

[aaron]

Wow thanks!

[newwaveboy87]

indeed thank you Strange so much.
*reads Wizard article*
everything says RUMOR in it. they're out of date again...sigh...

[Strange]

i have a feeling some of Wizard's news is out of date....like always.

I agree with you. What is in the article sounds more like speculation then actual facts.

[kevinpenni]

Storm either gets depowered or killed? I don't think so.

[newwaveboy87]

I agree with you. What is in the article sounds more like speculation then actual facts.
i remember back when X1 and X2 were filming and i had a Wizard subscription - the news in their magazines was ALWAYS like 3-4 months out of date, and i always wondered why.:confused:

[Strange]

Storm either gets depowered or killed? I don't think so.

If they don't see Halle as wanting to return for another movie then it makes sense that they might kill her off or depower her. Again I think this could all be speculation but if Wolverine doesn have a fling with her then something happening to her would make him go nuts on someone. It says that Angle's father is working on the mutant cure so he could be testing that some several mutants.

[Kanon]

Two deaths and four depowered

I'm assuming they are from the returning cast, otherwise, who cares...

Candidates:

Deaths:
Jean Grey- Why? She's insanely evil now, and extremely powerful, too dangerous to keep alive, plus you can't have a Dark Phoenix adaptation without a dead Phoenix at the End. Why not? mmmm not sure...
Pyro-Why- Why? Well, the tragedy of war always hits the youngest harder, and his turn to the dark side could be fatal with him in the front line of the conflict. Why not? A possible future leader of the Brotherhood..?

Depowered:
Mystique-Why? we have seen her in the storyboards, and her forced demutation it's just what the story needs to have Magneto engage full war on humans. Why not? Rebecca is becoming a better actress with every movie, her character is cool, and she is OK with the franchise
Rogue-Why? well, it's the end of the trilogy, and a happy end for her problem would give a sense of closure. Why not? if they bring Gambit on a future movie, well...
Magneto-Why? He is a menace that has to be stoped. I would say he dies, but maybe the perfect "punishment" for him is to live the rest of his live as human. Why not? He has to die! Come on! He gets away with just a normal life as punishment? pfffff
Cyclops- Why? It's been rumored to die, and if Jean dies at the end, probably it would be a good time for him to die heroically, but a demutation would let the door open for a comeback some day, and would give a reason for ol' Cyke to leave the team. Why not? He probably dies, and it would be fitting for him to "follow jean's footsteps"

Other candidates:
Dead:
Xavier-Why? Big funeral in the teaser, it has Charles all over the place, it's one of the rumored deaths, and if Mags kicks it, maybe his long time rival will too... plus: he could do "the Ben Kenobi" Why not? Huge character, and an actor that powers up the franchise

Depowered
Wolverine-Why? Well, he is the center of the world... This is cheessy, but stay with me, they use the cure on him, but his mutation is so powerful and he is so cool that overcomes the cure... Ok, they're not going to do that in a million years. Why not? A future spin off...

[Sean Madrox]

Being that they have beefed up Colossus role, maybe he is going to be one of teh few that bites the dust?

[N_z0]

Okay people save those pics that Strange just uploaded before Wizard tells him to remove them.

Thanks strange. I might just pick this mag up tomorrow.

[lordofthenerds]

I think that Cyclops, Mystique, Jean, and Xavier will die.
I think that Rogue and Magneto will lose their powers.

[JP]

Uh, Beast looks super awsome in that pic. Everything else...WTF?

[N_z0]

I think that Cyclops, Mystique, Jean, and Xavier will die.
I think that Rogue and Magneto will lose their powers.

It says two will die and three will lose their powers.

[LittleMissVixen]

Storm is depowered or killed? I hope Wizard is just speculating, that suck either way (IMO), but that will be some damn good drama for the final chapter. Especially since it sends Wolverine into a rage.

[Neto Magnus]

thanks, for posting Strange!

But be careful, the Wizard police is gonna be on yo ass.

[N_z0]

Good thing atleast Beast has huge feet.

Strange, is he wearing shoes?

[Dark Beast]

...And big ones they way it looks... But it's not like you can see much of it.

A marvelling costumedesign.. cortesy to WETA's hobbitfeet. This is actually the same thing.. only a little bigger and more hair.

[N_z0]

...And big ones they way it looks... But it's not like you can see much of it.

yeah. Number 10 on that Wizard list that Strange posted mentioned he has huge feet. I just wanted to know if he's barefoot in this particular scene. I doubt it.

[lordofthenerds]

Its seems like they were running out of ideas about what to write so they mentioned Beast's feet and Xavier still being bald.

[JustABill]

Dead or depowered Storm? :( That'll have me shedding tears more than Jean's ''death" at the end of X2. Yes, people tears were in my eyes. I'm a very emotional person. :P

[Dark Beast]

Dead or depowered Storm? :( That'll have me shedding tears more than Jean's ''death" at the end of X2. Yes, people tears were in my eyes. I'm a very emotional person. :P

It happened in the comic books, you know... Depowering Storm actually made her charactre much more interesting. It was a very good move.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/storm24.jpg

[Strange]

Good thing atleast Beast has huge feet.

Strange, is he wearing shoes?

Yes he has shoes on, looks like black dress shoes to match his suit.

[Emma718]

hmmm...i thought storm had a bigger role in X3 and i was right..lol

about the deaths, hopefully it doesn't include Pyro. He is not ready to go yet!

[JustABill]

Wait. Scope the outfits on Storm and Beast. Is that not what they were wearing at the memorial/funeral in the trailer? :eek: If that scene takes place after the memorial then that tells us a great deal about that memorial. :eek: Like that it's not for Xavier seeing as he's in that picture? :eek:

[newwaveboy87]

Storm was wearing a skirt in the memorial.

[JustABill]

Shoot! :( Ruin it for me.

[newwaveboy87]

i'm sorry i had to ruin it for you.
besides that news is just months old speculation on Wizard's part.

[JustABill]

I know. I was just thinking perhaps I had cracked and X3 mystery with their new picture.

[newwaveboy87]

we will never crack the mystery. even when the movie gets here...well...IF it does.

mwhahahahaha

[ljr]

But storm can't be killed,cause you see leech running into her arms in the trailer. and as he has hair and isn't green-he must be cured and that has to be near the end of the movie.

[Mr Sensitive]

It happened in the comic books, you know... Depowering Storm actually made her charactre much more interesting. It was a very good move.

Don't think so.

It was as bad as that "rabid punk" idea.

Writers run out of good plots and start: "Hummmm, let's see: no adamantium for Wolverine, a ruthless punk for Storm, etc".

Sometimes is so easy to write comicbooks.

[Chaos Bringer]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/wizard/WZ172-SUPERMAN.jpg

I guess this must be Warners way of trying to get the "Ladies" into the Theaters
if they're shrinking it they're trying to keep 'em out. When's the last time you were in a theater and overheard women saying 'oh that's much too large, my eyes, they sting' ... dumb move and stupid press.

[Ultimate-Man]

The ice picture in the magazine posted at the beginning of the thread is actually a *real* picture. It was taken in Febuary at lake Geneva. A mix of freezing rain and onshore mositure freezing.

[ljr]

Yeah we know it's real,but I can't believe that that mag fell for it-what happened to responsible journalism,doesn't anyone check the facts anymore.

[Retroman]

Not sure if I can post this but I do not have a scanner but here is a photo from my camera.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/atmshawn/DSC01158.jpg
:eek: :up:

[Storm22]

By the sounds of it I doubt Wizard actually know much more than we do, I'd say there's alot of guessing work on their part. If 3 mutants are depowered then I reckon it'll most likely be Rogue, Mystique and possibly Phoenix?? I'd HATE it if Storm was depowered!! I wouldn't like to see Phoenix depowered either.

[sebaa]

woow cool photo!

[Retroman]

One nitpick- Why did Wizard find it necessary to put all of those numbers in that photo.:down

[Electrix]

I cant see the photos... :(

[strugler]

can anybody of you guys be super nice and email me the pics or scans of the article :O?
my email address is: nabilelmjati@gmail.com
plz guyz i cant get the mag cause im outside the US for a long vaccation
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP:O

[JP]

Yeah, its a great picture (although I didn't save it). I just wish they didn't ruin it with those numbers.

[batfan1028]

Hey guys did any of you see the new pick in Premiere magazine.It talks about X3 and it has a very small pic of Xavier talking to magneto while Wolverine is in the back.

[Star]

ooh, no i havent seen that!

[batfan1028]

Well illl put the pic on the web in an hour!

[batfan1028]

I took a picture of the photo on my digital camera but i dont know how to put it on shhh boards please help

[Crimson Warrior]

you need to host it at a site like photobucket I believe.

[batfan1028]

then what do i do

[aaron]

You sign up for an account, upload the picture from whatever folder you saved it in, right click the picture and go to properties, copy the url, come in this thread and - url of image here

[batfan1028]

Im so dumb alright i tell u what i did i now have an account on photo bucket i uploaded it to the site know what do i do plus what is the url

[Crimson Warrior]

The url is the address you see when you right click the photo, if you tell me the URL I can maybe post the link for you.

[aaron]

its the address of the webpage

[batfan1028]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/morperetz/Picture182.jpg

[ts16]

if your on photobucket, just copy and paste the url address under the picture.

[aaron]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/morperetz/Picture182.jpg

[batfan1028]

I finally got it.Thank you

[Crimson Warrior]

thanks for the pic Batfan, did they say anything else about X3?

[batfan1028]

Nothing much just about that this film will feature beast and more of storm.Also that the film revolves around the dark phenoix storyline.

[ts16]

Cool pic, thanks so much batfan! :up:

[aaron]

Thanks batfan

[JustABill]

God, look at Bow Wow looking out of place again in the movie industry. :o


Cool pic though.

[JP]

Cool pic, thanks.

They really gave Ian alot of padding.

[N_z0]

Thanks for the pic batfan.

Have we figured out yet which scene this is? Jean's house?

[Retroman]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/morperetz/Picture182.jpg
Thanks a lot!!:up:

[Retroman]

Thanks for the pic batfan.

Have we figured out yet which scene this is? Jean's house?
Yup this it looks like it. Or at very least in the neighbourhood.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4036/xmen0024dk.jpg

[Kanon]

Yup this it looks like it. Or at very least in the neighbourhood.

http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4036/xmen0024dk.jpg
Well, Magneto is holding the cape with his arm the exact same way

[americanguy96]

And also we in the teaser trailer we see Storm flying around in a neighborhood, so part of this scene seems to be coming together.

[Retroman]

Not that i'm worrying about X3's box office take but i'm noticing that Superman Returns is getting more magazine covers than X3. I've counted 4 already this week.

[Pickle-El]

Not that i'm worrying about X3's box office take but i'm noticing that Superman Returns is getting more magazine covers than X3. I've counted 4 already this week.

(OT)

BT said that this is just the beginning.....

[Mary]

Great pic.

[Mr. Bojangles]

What happens at Jean's house/neighborhood ? :confused:

[Electrix]

Well there are two main events...

The first one is a flashback where Xavier, Magneto and maybe Beast or someone go to Jeans house after she is descovering her powers. Fences are rattled and things move. Thats when Xavier put a block on Jeans powers.

The second time it seems like everyone is there. Apparently there is a battle, thats where Storm raises and spin around knocking people over in the trailer. Wolverine also gets thrown through a window.

[N_z0]

The second time it seems like everyone is there.

Except Cyclops. :p

(OT)

BT said that this is just the beginning.....

What's BT?

Not that i'm worrying about X3's box office take but i'm noticing that Superman Returns is getting more magazine covers than X3. I've counted 4 already this week.

Maybe this is just the optimist in me but X-men 3 just recently released its trailer and cast pics. They've been secretive about this production the entire time. Hopefully that Wizard coverage is start of a great campaign.

[Pickle-El]

What's BT?




I was responding to Retroman. BT is Bluetights, he runs bluetighs.net The site that puts up the SR blogs.

[GNR]

indeed thank you Strange so much.
*reads Wizard article*
everything says RUMOR in it. they're out of date again...sigh...

That's a big relief.That rumour of 2 dying and 3 losing their powers was straight from CanMag.Hey,can anyone describe the pic of Wolvie,Beast,Storm,and Xavier in an office?

[Mr. Bojangles]

you just described it :confused:

[N_z0]

you just described it :confused:

LOL

pm me your email GNR and i'll send you the pic.

[GNR]

NZO,it says you got to clear your inbox or something.

[N_z0]

Try it now.

[GNR]

There. =D

[vanillacyke]

Man that pic. blew. I can only hope Storm kicks the bucket. No talk on Cyclops or Iceman in the article which is STUPID!!! That article really depressed me. Geez I really wish they'd have just given the film to Whedon and let him do whatever he wanted to.

[Dark Beast]

Geez I really wish they'd have just given the film to Whedon and let him do whatever he wanted to.

They won't for one reason: "Do you know what happens to a Toad when it gets hit by Lightning?"

[JustABill]

Whedon didn't write that line. The only line of his left in the original X-Men.

''How do I know it's really you?"

''You're a dick."

[vanillacyke]

After reading Whedon's Astonishing X-Men I think I can forgive one bad line. beside it was Storm who said it and anything that make's Storm look like an idiot is great in my book. sigh the only 2 X-Men I don't care for are the two that will be hogging the screen this May. I'm so torn.

[GNR]

After reading Whedon's Astonishing X-Men I think I can forgive one bad line. beside it was Storm who said it and anything that make's Storm look like an idiot is great in my book. sigh the only 2 X-Men I don't care for are the two that will be hogging the screen this May. I'm so torn.

Give it to Whedon?One word bud,overrated.

[vanillacyke]

Hey I'll admit Buffy's stupid I can't stand that crap but HE knows his X-Men.

[bosef982]

Yea, I love how everyone just got all prideful after the teaser and just had to run around and scream failure and doom for Superman and how X3 will trump it in terms of publicity and such. Then, two weeks later we get...



http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/filmreview1wn.jpg


http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/superman2.jpg

http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_WZ172-SUPERMAN.jpg

http://www.kal-el.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_500x650.jpg


Seriously, I don't know what people are thinking. Objectivity is lost on these boards. As I said, I'm not a huge SUperman fan, but Warner's is handling their movie so much better than Fox is handling X3. In fact, Warner's has been doing such since the beginning. And in a few weeks, we get a new SR teaser, so...

[muscaremy]

yea but hes also superman.... the icon of icons.... the biggest superhero there is.... and there hasnt been a movie in how long........ people know and x3 is coming..... all they need is a trailer or 2 on tv.... whereas the general audience has no idea bout supes.... thats why durin the super bowl if(and they probably will)supes has a trailer... thats wen people will find out about it...

[Mr Sensitive]

Perspective, people.

See, advertisement is just advertisement. You want X-Men to be everywhere: why?

It would be unbearable. If they put them everywhere, making faces and what not, why, after all that circus, going to see the movie? You'd be overfed with X-imagery.

And, besides, those ridiculous pics of Supes are just getting his boyscout thing worse. Carrying a number for Empire, trying to look cool for Premiere.

Man, I just hate advertisement. It makes everything look like a box of soap.

[Electrix]

Superman needs all the publicity it can get

[Retroman]

Superman needs all the publicity it can get
And X-Men doesn't?

Da Vinci Code is the power house we FOX need to be worrying about not Superman which comes out more than a month after X3.

[Sean Madrox]

Wolverine was just on the cover of Wizard a few months back.

[Electrix]

And X-Men doesn't?

Da Vinci Code is the power house we FOX need to be worrying about not Superman which comes out more than a month after X3.

Superman is new whereas X-Men is known about.

[Kanon]

Wolverine was just on the cover of Wizard a few months back.
Wolverine lives in the covers of Wizard. The could change the name to Wolverizard

[bosef982]

And X-Men doesn't?

Da Vinci Code is the power house we FOX need to be worrying about not Superman which comes out more than a month after X3.

THANK YOU!

People are failing to realize the situation that X3 is in. WE're not talking about just box office numbers guys, we're talking about critical acclaim too. X3 will follow Da Vinci Code, which the sickening bias and cult-like fervor on this board has reduced to a "narrow-centered" film like Stigmata somehow. First of all, X3 could easily become victim to the "they've run out of ideas" critique by many. We do have similar plot threads to the first two filmis: changing mutants ot human now instead of vice-cersa, a serum that does things to mutants like Stryker's son, etc. Jean's death, if they do it again, will be anticlimatic since we saw it alreayd in the last movie -- it'll work like Trinity's death in Matrix Reloaded and then again in Matrix Revolutions, we'd already seen it, who cares?

So, if it survives the purchasing vacum that Da VInci Code creates -- let's face it, Box office is a victim of the low economics now in the US -- and the controversy, and the rigid scrutiny it'll begin getting once more trailers are released (mass audiences and critiques will not be as bias or forgiven as fanboys if action, make-up, or CGI are not up to par with the first two movies [which in fact used it sparingly and with little obviousness]). Also, many of you fans describe X-Men films as action movies, while critiquing them for not having enough. This is a problem, I blieve many audiences have become use to the idea of X-Men films being more character/plot oriented rather than action -- such a hard turn may set off many non-comic fans of the franchise, resulting in bad buzz.

And bad buzz amongst mass audiences can KILL a movie very quickly.

Two, X3 will then have to last throughout the summer, going up against Pirates of the Carribean and most noticeably, Superman Returns. Now, if X3 is as effects laden as they say it's going to be (which I guess is a good thing....), then it'll have to bump Superman Returns out of place in terms of action and such if it's not going to become a retroactive failure. Critics love comparing genre films, and they will do it with X3 and Superman Returns.

Third, someone saidd Superman's marketing is a like a soapbox. Yet, you're bias makes you miss the point. The fact is Superman is SOOO BY DEFAULT marketable you can put him on the cover of just about any magazine and no one will question it. You can insert him into any public event and people will understand why and love it. If you placed Xavier or Wolverine on the cover of Times Magazine, people would be like "what the hell?" If you had Hugh Jackman running the torch and said, "He's in X-Men", people would be like oh yeah. But with Superman, he's an ICON. An American Icon. X-Men is not. Face it and get over it.

In and on itself, Superman is more popular, more salient, and more marketable than any other comic franchise out there.

Now some fans cling to thier bitterness that Singer is a piss-poor director, can't handle action, isn't "ambitous" enough in terms of set pieces and the like. Why I'm already laughing is that come June 2006, X-Men fans, after getting their film and already engaged in daily debate about whether or not it was good (but most invariably saying it was good despite whatever the outcome will be since some are already declaring it a resounding success in the face of some severe production flaws), Superman will premiere. You guys are going to see action, characterization, and plotting on par with NOTHING you have ever seen before. Batman's actions -- a fart in the wind. Spider-Man 1 and 2's action...yawn, what a bore.

You can hold me to these words, you can copy and paste them to whatever and throw them back in my face if I'm wrong. But I assure you, I will not be. Superman Returns will show X-Fans what Singer could have done if Fox would have been a bit more supportive of him in the first place -- a support that could have been encouraged by more fan support nad faith in Singer perhaps?

But of course, from the sounds of it, as long as Ratner throws in some explotions, a leader STorm that twirls like a top, and some cool FX's here and there, X3 will be the "best superhero movie ever!" -- I'm sure we'll see alot of those posts after it premieres.

Now, come on with your "you're harsh on X3" and "You want X3 to fail" -- I haven't said anything like that at all. In fact, I'm quite sympathetic to the X-men franchise and have a higher relation and association with it than I have ever had to Superman. However, I like to think I know good filmmaking when I see it and right now, X3 not so much, Superman Returns alot of.

I really don't mind anymore, because come next summer after Superman Returns premieres, I'm going to be laughing my ass off on these boards as X-Fans rush around attempting to find any variable, any economic nuance, any things (I'm sure we'll even get, "X3 was good given the time it was made!") anything that'll make X-Fans feel better than Superman fans, which seems to be -- like Tim Rothman in his anger against Singer -- what fans here like to do. It's why we get entire threads dedicated to why the X3 trailer was apparently better than the Superman Returns trailer -- with that thread posted both here and in the Superman Returns boards just to be rude. Then we get threads comparing Superman Returns to X3 in terms of marketing and human memory -- posted and created and supported by people who claim to be objective and clami to be sick of the constant comparing of SUperman Returns to X3. What it is....

...some X-Fans just don't like to compare X3 with Superman Returns when the differences in quality and care are so overwhemling at favor Superman -- but when they find a way, like "it's got more action!!!!!!!", to justify it the other way around, they'll do it...and then be promptly shut down by four magazine covers in one week, an Olympic torch run, three international interviews, two magainze feature stories, and soon a new teaser...all of this in about a thirty-day time span.

Yeah, whatever...

[bosef982]

Superman really isn't "new" in terms of public knowledge.

[Electrix]

Its 'new' as in the last Superman film was about 20 years ago. Its a 'new' Superman, thats the 3rd in the past 10 years.

[bosef982]

Its 'new' as in the last Superman film was about 20 years ago. Its a 'new' Superman, thats the 3rd in the past 10 years.

No, but you're simpilifying it. When you made the X-Men movie, you had to go to producers and filmmakers and say, "Have you ever heard of the X-Men?" They did this with De Santos, and Donner, and Singer, and about each and everyone of the cast.

When you're making a Superman movie, you just say, "We're making a Superman movie..."

...and people don't need anything else. They alreayd know about Superman, who he is, who he fights, what he's about. That's what I mean that Superman isn't exactly "new" in the public mind. Again, he's an ICON. So to say "he's new" is a misrepresentation I think. Like I said in the above example.

[bosef982]

Its 'new' as in the last Superman film was about 20 years ago. Its a 'new' Superman, thats the 3rd in the past 10 years.

And I mean, this is kind of slippery logic. Technically, using "newness" as a measure of time, X3 is "new" as well. It's the new X-Men movie, so...

[berzerko89]

any recent updates from any magazines regarding X3???

[Hugh'sMrs]

Excellent post, bosef982. I love the X-Men franchise, but even I have to face the truth that X3 has been getting mostly negative buzz from the professionals while Superman Returns has been getting positive press.

You're right. To the general public, Superman needs no explanation while X-Men does. I had a vague knowledge of X-Men before the first movie, but I don't need anyone to give me a history lesson on Superman. Which is probably the same for a lot of people. Therein lies the difference.

Superman Returns will have the tough battle of Routh being compared to Reeve, which has been made even more difficult with Reeve's death. It would be like replacing Hugh as Wolverine who owns that role. I'd feel sorry for the poor guy who'd be brave enough to attempt that.

While X3 has to equal or surpass the first two films SR has to do the same with an iconic franchise. Singer and Ratner will both be scrutinized but I think Singer has it harder. If X3 doesn't meet expectations Ratner won't have to take all the blame (Fox and Rothman will be held accountable) but if SR doesn't perform as anticipated, Singer will be roasted for that AND for leaving the X-Men franchise to do it.

[bosef982]

Excellent post, bosef982. I love the X-Men franchise, but even I have to face the truth that X3 has been getting mostly negative buzz from the professionals while Superman Returns has been getting positive press.

You're right. To the general public, Superman needs no explanation while X-Men does. I had a vague knowledge of X-Men before the first movie, but I don't need anyone to give me a history lesson on Superman. Which is probably the same for a lot of people. Therein lies the difference.

Superman Returns will have the tough battle of Routh being compared to Reeve, which has been made even more difficult with Reeve's death. It would be like replacing Hugh as Wolverine who owns that role. I'd feel sorry for the poor guy who'd be brave enough to attempt that. While X3 has to equal or surpass the first two films SR has to do the same with an icon franchise. Singer and Ratner will both be scrutinized but I think Singer has it harder. If X3 doesn't meet expectations Ratner won't have to take all the blame (Fox and Rothman will be held accountable) but if SR doesn't perform as anticipated, Singer will be roasted for that AND for leaving the X-Men franchise to do it.

Yes, Singer does have it bad in that respect. With X-Men, he could screw it up and aside from fanboys, people wouldn't care. But, with Superman...**** it up, and you're going to go down. You'll walk into a production meeting and you'll be like Joel Schumacher, "The guy who destroyed ______ franchise". And to mess up under WB....bad bad bad.

[WorthyStevens]

THANK YOU!

People are failing to realize the situation that X3 is in. WE're not talking about just box office numbers guys, we're talking about critical acclaim too. X3 will follow Da Vinci Code, which the sickening bias and cult-like fervor on this board has reduced to a "narrow-centered" film like Stigmata somehow. First of all, X3 could easily become victim to the "they've run out of ideas" critique by many. We do have similar plot threads to the first two filmis: changing mutants ot human now instead of vice-cersa, a serum that does things to mutants like Stryker's son, etc. Jean's death, if they do it again, will be anticlimatic since we saw it alreayd in the last movie -- it'll work like Trinity's death in Matrix Reloaded and then again in Matrix Revolutions, we'd already seen it, who cares?

So, if it survives the purchasing vacum that Da VInci Code creates -- let's face it, Box office is a victim of the low economics now in the US -- and the controversy, and the rigid scrutiny it'll begin getting once more trailers are released (mass audiences and critiques will not be as bias or forgiven as fanboys if action, make-up, or CGI are not up to par with the first two movies [which in fact used it sparingly and with little obviousness]). Also, many of you fans describe X-Men films as action movies, while critiquing them for not having enough. This is a problem, I blieve many audiences have become use to the idea of X-Men films being more character/plot oriented rather than action -- such a hard turn may set off many non-comic fans of the franchise, resulting in bad buzz.

And bad buzz amongst mass audiences can KILL a movie very quickly.

Two, X3 will then have to last throughout the summer, going up against Pirates of the Carribean and most noticeably, Superman Returns. Now, if X3 is as effects laden as they say it's going to be (which I guess is a good thing....), then it'll have to bump Superman Returns out of place in terms of action and such if it's not going to become a retroactive failure. Critics love comparing genre films, and they will do it with X3 and Superman Returns.

Third, someone saidd Superman's marketing is a like a soapbox. Yet, you're bias makes you miss the point. The fact is Superman is SOOO BY DEFAULT marketable you can put him on the cover of just about any magazine and no one will question it. You can insert him into any public event and people will understand why and love it. If you placed Xavier or Wolverine on the cover of Times Magazine, people would be like "what the hell?" If you had Hugh Jackman running the torch and said, "He's in X-Men", people would be like oh yeah. But with Superman, he's an ICON. An American Icon. X-Men is not. Face it and get over it.

In and on itself, Superman is more popular, more salient, and more marketable than any other comic franchise out there.

Now some fans cling to thier bitterness that Singer is a piss-poor director, can't handle action, isn't "ambitous" enough in terms of set pieces and the like. Why I'm already laughing is that come June 2006, X-Men fans, after getting their film and already engaged in daily debate about whether or not it was good (but most invariably saying it was good despite whatever the outcome will be since some are already declaring it a resounding success in the face of some severe production flaws), Superman will premiere. You guys are going to see action, characterization, and plotting on par with NOTHING you have ever seen before. Batman's actions -- a fart in the wind. Spider-Man 1 and 2's action...yawn, what a bore.

You can hold me to these words, you can copy and paste them to whatever and throw them back in my face if I'm wrong. But I assure you, I will not be. Superman Returns will show X-Fans what Singer could have done if Fox would have been a bit more supportive of him in the first place -- a support that could have been encouraged by more fan support nad faith in Singer perhaps?

But of course, from the sounds of it, as long as Ratner throws in some explotions, a leader STorm that twirls like a top, and some cool FX's here and there, X3 will be the "best superhero movie ever!" -- I'm sure we'll see alot of those posts after it premieres.

Now, come on with your "you're harsh on X3" and "You want X3 to fail" -- I haven't said anything like that at all. In fact, I'm quite sympathetic to the X-men franchise and have a higher relation and association with it than I have ever had to Superman. However, I like to think I know good filmmaking when I see it and right now, X3 not so much, Superman Returns alot of.

I really don't mind anymore, because come next summer after Superman Returns premieres, I'm going to be laughing my ass off on these boards as X-Fans rush around attempting to find any variable, any economic nuance, any things (I'm sure we'll even get, "X3 was good given the time it was made!") anything that'll make X-Fans feel better than Superman fans, which seems to be -- like Tim Rothman in his anger against Singer -- what fans here like to do. It's why we get entire threads dedicated to why the X3 trailer was apparently better than the Superman Returns trailer -- with that thread posted both here and in the Superman Returns boards just to be rude. Then we get threads comparing Superman Returns to X3 in terms of marketing and human memory -- posted and created and supported by people who claim to be objective and clami to be sick of the constant comparing of SUperman Returns to X3. What it is....

...some X-Fans just don't like to compare X3 with Superman Returns when the differences in quality and care are so overwhemling at favor Superman -- but when they find a way, like "it's got more action!!!!!!!", to justify it the other way around, they'll do it...and then be promptly shut down by four magazine covers in one week, an Olympic torch run, three international interviews, two magainze feature stories, and soon a new teaser...all of this in about a thirty-day time span.

Yeah, whatever...

You forgot one crucial feature: Superman himself.

If Brandon Routh is not convincing as Superman, it's gonna damage the movie BIG TIME. This is Warner Bros.' summer event movie for next year, and a very costly one at that (like X3).

And you just know there's gonna be comparisons to Christopher Reeve.

Superman has just as big a risk as X3 in terms of box office, and whereas Da Vinci Code has a somewhat different audience than X3, Superman has a direct competitor coming out the week after. (POTC2)

[Mr Sensitive]

THANK YOU!

People are failing to realize the situation that X3 is in. WE're not talking about just box office numbers guys, we're talking about critical acclaim too. X3 will follow Da Vinci Code, which the sickening bias and cult-like fervor on this board has reduced to a "narrow-centered" film like Stigmata somehow. First of all, X3 could easily become victim to the "they've run out of ideas" critique by many. We do have similar plot threads to the first two filmis: changing mutants ot human now instead of vice-cersa, a serum that does things to mutants like Stryker's son, etc. Jean's death, if they do it again, will be anticlimatic since we saw it alreayd in the last movie -- it'll work like Trinity's death in Matrix Reloaded and then again in Matrix Revolutions, we'd already seen it, who cares?

So, if it survives the purchasing vacum that Da VInci Code creates -- let's face it, Box office is a victim of the low economics now in the US -- and the controversy, and the rigid scrutiny it'll begin getting once more trailers are released (mass audiences and critiques will not be as bias or forgiven as fanboys if action, make-up, or CGI are not up to par with the first two movies [which in fact used it sparingly and with little obviousness]). Also, many of you fans describe X-Men films as action movies, while critiquing them for not having enough. This is a problem, I blieve many audiences have become use to the idea of X-Men films being more character/plot oriented rather than action -- such a hard turn may set off many non-comic fans of the franchise, resulting in bad buzz.

And bad buzz amongst mass audiences can KILL a movie very quickly.

Two, X3 will then have to last throughout the summer, going up against Pirates of the Carribean and most noticeably, Superman Returns. Now, if X3 is as effects laden as they say it's going to be (which I guess is a good thing....), then it'll have to bump Superman Returns out of place in terms of action and such if it's not going to become a retroactive failure. Critics love comparing genre films, and they will do it with X3 and Superman Returns.

Third, someone saidd Superman's marketing is a like a soapbox. Yet, you're bias makes you miss the point. The fact is Superman is SOOO BY DEFAULT marketable you can put him on the cover of just about any magazine and no one will question it. You can insert him into any public event and people will understand why and love it. If you placed Xavier or Wolverine on the cover of Times Magazine, people would be like "what the hell?" If you had Hugh Jackman running the torch and said, "He's in X-Men", people would be like oh yeah. But with Superman, he's an ICON. An American Icon. X-Men is not. Face it and get over it.

In and on itself, Superman is more popular, more salient, and more marketable than any other comic franchise out there.

Now some fans cling to thier bitterness that Singer is a piss-poor director, can't handle action, isn't "ambitous" enough in terms of set pieces and the like. Why I'm already laughing is that come June 2006, X-Men fans, after getting their film and already engaged in daily debate about whether or not it was good (but most invariably saying it was good despite whatever the outcome will be since some are already declaring it a resounding success in the face of some severe production flaws), Superman will premiere. You guys are going to see action, characterization, and plotting on par with NOTHING you have ever seen before. Batman's actions -- a fart in the wind. Spider-Man 1 and 2's action...yawn, what a bore.

You can hold me to these words, you can copy and paste them to whatever and throw them back in my face if I'm wrong. But I assure you, I will not be. Superman Returns will show X-Fans what Singer could have done if Fox would have been a bit more supportive of him in the first place -- a support that could have been encouraged by more fan support nad faith in Singer perhaps?

But of course, from the sounds of it, as long as Ratner throws in some explotions, a leader STorm that twirls like a top, and some cool FX's here and there, X3 will be the "best superhero movie ever!" -- I'm sure we'll see alot of those posts after it premieres.

Now, come on with your "you're harsh on X3" and "You want X3 to fail" -- I haven't said anything like that at all. In fact, I'm quite sympathetic to the X-men franchise and have a higher relation and association with it than I have ever had to Superman. However, I like to think I know good filmmaking when I see it and right now, X3 not so much, Superman Returns alot of.

I really don't mind anymore, because come next summer after Superman Returns premieres, I'm going to be laughing my ass off on these boards as X-Fans rush around attempting to find any variable, any economic nuance, any things (I'm sure we'll even get, "X3 was good given the time it was made!") anything that'll make X-Fans feel better than Superman fans, which seems to be -- like Tim Rothman in his anger against Singer -- what fans here like to do. It's why we get entire threads dedicated to why the X3 trailer was apparently better than the Superman Returns trailer -- with that thread posted both here and in the Superman Returns boards just to be rude. Then we get threads comparing Superman Returns to X3 in terms of marketing and human memory -- posted and created and supported by people who claim to be objective and clami to be sick of the constant comparing of SUperman Returns to X3. What it is....

...some X-Fans just don't like to compare X3 with Superman Returns when the differences in quality and care are so overwhemling at favor Superman -- but when they find a way, like "it's got more action!!!!!!!", to justify it the other way around, they'll do it...and then be promptly shut down by four magazine covers in one week, an Olympic torch run, three international interviews, two magainze feature stories, and soon a new teaser...all of this in about a thirty-day time span.

Yeah, whatever...


Bosef, caro mio,

Superman can be a hell of a movie (and I bet it will be, Singer knows what he's doing, John Williams' catchy line), but it will be überhard to beat the great Christopher Reeve with Brandon Routh.

Supes is an icon, sure he is, but he's already everywhere, and only jellybrains are not sick with the overexposure. And, besides, he is a bit of an old-fashioned good boy. Always liked Batman better.

Ratner is a weak director? Sometimes he is, sometimes he is not. Red Dragon is a very good movie, precise and elegant. In comparison, Hannibal, by Blade Runner's Scott is just crap with delicate Florentine perfume. See?

And, judging by that astonishing teaser, he can have hit the jackpot. In the least, the sequence that leads to the breathtaking ripping apart Golden Gate may be a great moment in comicbook cinema.

The Da Vinci Code? Maybe good action with great actors. The book is so silly. The only good point about it is Brown's bashing of Opus Dei.

So: no concerns about all that fuss. advertisement, BO, useless market chatter.

My only concern is: will X3 be long enough to tell a decent story? Will it have a good edition? Main problems of superhero stuff nowadays.

[bosef982]

Bosef, caro mio,

Superman can be a hell of a movie (and I bet it will be, Singer knows what he's doing, John Williams' catchy line), but it will be überhard to beat the great Christopher Reeve with Brandon Routh.

Supes is an icon, sure he is, but he's already everywhere, and only jellybrains are not sick with the overexposure. And, besides, he is a bit of an old-fashioned good boy. Always liked Batman better.

Ratner is a weak director? Sometimes he is, sometimes he is not. Red Dragon is a very good movie, precise and elegant. In comparison, Hannibal, by Blade Runner's Scott is just crap with delicate Florentine perfume. See?

And, judging by that astonishing teaser, he can have hit the jackpot. In the least, the sequence that leads to the breathtaking ripping apart Golden Gate may be a great moment in comicbook cinema.

The Da Vinci Code? Maybe good action with great actors. The book is so silly. The only good point about it is Brown's bashing of Opus Dei.

So: no concerns about all that fuss. advertisement, BO, useless market chatter.

My only concern is: will X3 be long enough to tell a decent story? Will it have a good edition? Main problems of superhero stuff nowadays.

Also true for SR. Both these movies are trying to accomplish alot...we can only hope for 2 to 3 hour movies. More likely 2 and a half, X2 was 2 hours and twenty minutes.

[muscaremy]

Two, X3 will then have to last throughout the summer, going up against Pirates of the Carribean and most noticeably, Superman Returns. Now, if X3 is as effects laden as they say it's going to be (which I guess is a good thing....), then it'll have to bump Superman Returns out of place in terms of action and such if it's not going to become a retroactive failure. Critics love comparing genre films, and they will do it with X3 and Superman Returns.


funny you say that bout having to contend with supes and potc 2..... cuz x3 will have already been out for a month before those so it will have made its big loot.... whereas supes only has one week to make money before potc 2 comes out..... and the little kiddies go crazy for potc and the depp guy

[Advanced Dark]

I think Superman would be an awesome XMAS release for 06 but of course that's when they want the DVD out

[Advanced Dark]

THANK YOU!

People are failing to realize the situation that X3 is in. WE're not talking about just box office numbers guys, we're talking about critical acclaim too. X3 will follow Da Vinci Code, which the sickening bias and cult-like fervor on this board has reduced to a "narrow-centered" film like Stigmata somehow. First of all, X3 could easily become victim to the "they've run out of ideas" critique by many. We do have similar plot threads to the first two filmis: changing mutants ot human now instead of vice-cersa, a serum that does things to mutants like Stryker's son, etc. Jean's death, if they do it again, will be anticlimatic since we saw it alreayd in the last movie -- it'll work like Trinity's death in Matrix Reloaded and then again in Matrix Revolutions, we'd already seen it, who cares?

So, if it survives the purchasing vacum that Da VInci Code creates -- let's face it, Box office is a victim of the low economics now in the US -- and the controversy, and the rigid scrutiny it'll begin getting once more trailers are released (mass audiences and critiques will not be as bias or forgiven as fanboys if action, make-up, or CGI are not up to par with the first two movies [which in fact used it sparingly and with little obviousness]). Also, many of you fans describe X-Men films as action movies, while critiquing them for not having enough. This is a problem, I blieve many audiences have become use to the idea of X-Men films being more character/plot oriented rather than action -- such a hard turn may set off many non-comic fans of the franchise, resulting in bad buzz.

And bad buzz amongst mass audiences can KILL a movie very quickly.

Two, X3 will then have to last throughout the summer, going up against Pirates of the Carribean and most noticeably, Superman Returns. Now, if X3 is as effects laden as they say it's going to be (which I guess is a good thing....), then it'll have to bump Superman Returns out of place in terms of action and such if it's not going to become a retroactive failure. Critics love comparing genre films, and they will do it with X3 and Superman Returns.

Third, someone saidd Superman's marketing is a like a soapbox. Yet, you're bias makes you miss the point. The fact is Superman is SOOO BY DEFAULT marketable you can put him on the cover of just about any magazine and no one will question it. You can insert him into any public event and people will understand why and love it. If you placed Xavier or Wolverine on the cover of Times Magazine, people would be like "what the hell?" If you had Hugh Jackman running the torch and said, "He's in X-Men", people would be like oh yeah. But with Superman, he's an ICON. An American Icon. X-Men is not. Face it and get over it.

In and on itself, Superman is more popular, more salient, and more marketable than any other comic franchise out there.

Now some fans cling to thier bitterness that Singer is a piss-poor director, can't handle action, isn't "ambitous" enough in terms of set pieces and the like. Why I'm already laughing is that come June 2006, X-Men fans, after getting their film and already engaged in daily debate about whether or not it was good (but most invariably saying it was good despite whatever the outcome will be since some are already declaring it a resounding success in the face of some severe production flaws), Superman will premiere. You guys are going to see action, characterization, and plotting on par with NOTHING you have ever seen before. Batman's actions -- a fart in the wind. Spider-Man 1 and 2's action...yawn, what a bore.

You can hold me to these words, you can copy and paste them to whatever and throw them back in my face if I'm wrong. But I assure you, I will not be. Superman Returns will show X-Fans what Singer could have done if Fox would have been a bit more supportive of him in the first place -- a support that could have been encouraged by more fan support nad faith in Singer perhaps?

But of course, from the sounds of it, as long as Ratner throws in some explotions, a leader STorm that twirls like a top, and some cool FX's here and there, X3 will be the "best superhero movie ever!" -- I'm sure we'll see alot of those posts after it premieres.

Now, come on with your "you're harsh on X3" and "You want X3 to fail" -- I haven't said anything like that at all. In fact, I'm quite sympathetic to the X-men franchise and have a higher relation and association with it than I have ever had to Superman. However, I like to think I know good filmmaking when I see it and right now, X3 not so much, Superman Returns alot of.

I really don't mind anymore, because come next summer after Superman Returns premieres, I'm going to be laughing my ass off on these boards as X-Fans rush around attempting to find any variable, any economic nuance, any things (I'm sure we'll even get, "X3 was good given the time it was made!") anything that'll make X-Fans feel better than Superman fans, which seems to be -- like Tim Rothman in his anger against Singer -- what fans here like to do. It's why we get entire threads dedicated to why the X3 trailer was apparently better than the Superman Returns trailer -- with that thread posted both here and in the Superman Returns boards just to be rude. Then we get threads comparing Superman Returns to X3 in terms of marketing and human memory -- posted and created and supported by people who claim to be objective and clami to be sick of the constant comparing of SUperman Returns to X3. What it is....

...some X-Fans just don't like to compare X3 with Superman Returns when the differences in quality and care are so overwhemling at favor Superman -- but when they find a way, like "it's got more action!!!!!!!", to justify it the other way around, they'll do it...and then be promptly shut down by four magazine covers in one week, an Olympic torch run, three international interviews, two magainze feature stories, and soon a new teaser...all of this in about a thirty-day time span.

Yeah, whatever...

I wonder if it'll be as big as a powerhouse as Cinderella Man. Da Vinci code and X3 have two vastly different target audiences. Kids are not going to be dragging their families to see Da Vinci code over X3. All the fans will come out in force for X3 and Da Vinci code will suffer a huge drop because the adults who didn't get to see Da Vinci in week 1 might not till DVD because a huge portion of the kids out there will be wanting to see X3 and begging their parents to take them. The promotion for X3 will smother Da Vinci code with endorsements, promotional campaigns by 3rd parties, the video game, and all the toys and merchandise...and while I'm sure Da Vinci will be a much higher rated film by critics and will gain all the praise...the target audience for X3 is much bigger and if X3's box office is bigger than X2 than that hype alone will give us some new viewers. Look what happened to Cinderella Man which was an awesome film that just got burried.

Now Supeerman and Pirates 2 will cannibilize one another. I don't know who has the advantage there but Pirates did awfull well at the box office and the teaser was much more attractive to the target audience then Superman's pretty music and flowing cape.

[N_z0]

When you're making a Superman movie, you just say, "We're making a Superman movie..."

...and people don't need anything else. They alreayd know about Superman, who he is, who he fights, what he's about. That's what I mean that Superman isn't exactly "new" in the public mind. Again, he's an ICON. So to say "he's new" is a misrepresentation I think. Like I said in the above example.

So what you're saying is we don't need another Superman film?

First of all, X3 could easily become victim to the "they've run out of ideas" critique by many. We do have similar plot threads to the first two filmis: changing mutants ot human now instead of vice-cersa, a serum that does things to mutants like Stryker's son, etc. Jean's death, if they do it again, will be anticlimatic since we saw it alreayd in the last movie -- it'll work like Trinity's death in Matrix Reloaded and then again in Matrix Revolutions, we'd already seen it, who cares?

See above. :p

I just hate posts that basically say that my choice (of franchise, of comic book, of writer, what have you) is so above yours. It's much more sophisticated, yours is a popcorn flick when mine will definitely be award-worthy and receives praises from those who "get it".

It's basically saying that if you hate my choice, you just don't get it and therefore I am better than you.

Yeah, whatever...

Ummm...

[plasticfangs]

So here comes my major question:

Who gives a flying ****?

I was never aware that there was such a strict schism between comic fans - in order to be a diehard "X-Men" fan you have to hate "Superman", and vise versa?

If anyone is that hung up on proving some level superiority between the two, be it in film success or otherwise, then...well, I think that person would need to really re-examine their priorities.

Here are the facts:

- YES, X-Men is going to be in stiff competition with "The DaVinci Code" in the bx office. Period. It's from a huge bestseller, which itself garnered a huge amoutn of contreversy, and it has an A-List cast and alot of hype on it's own. And most people who have seen the trailer (that I've personally come across) have said it looks really interesting. So, regardless of what anyone thinks, it's going to be a hurdle, as far as ticket sales goes. It's another big mvie, coming out the same time, duh. In fact, this shouldn't even be an arguement.

-YES, Superman is a far more recognized icon than X-Men. For goodness sake; The Superman logo is considered to be the most universally-recognizable image the world over, more so than even Mickey Mouse and Jesus! Jesus!!!
So, in that way, Superman wins.

Everything else in conjecture. Now, I have some thoughts on this. For example; from all accounts I've come across, the Superman trailer has generated a lot of "yawns", thus far. Superman is a somewhat antiquated hero - a majority of younger people are uniterested in the Boyscout in Blue, because he's too powerful, too "goody-goody"...he doesn't reflect current tastes of the day...it's 50 Cent's World, after all...

And for me, Ratner has a less-than-stellar body of prior work. Music viedos, and the Rush Hour franchise...with his best film to date still being less-than-great. It's quite possible that X-3 is going to have a lot of major problems, and the hurried production doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

In fact, both of these films could sink like stone fish, when all is said and done. And we won't know until we've seen them, and the world puts down their dollars and their votes at the ticket booths.

But really - beyond all arguements - why does it have to be one or the other? As a comic book fan, I look forward to every comic franchise film, as long as it loks to be a good film. What is there to prove, if one does better? That the winning comic book is better? Is there some moral stance in the arguement?

Hoenstly. Personal taste aside, I don't think there's any reasn to play "my- superhero-could-beat-up-your-superhero". And at the very least, we might as well see the frickin' movies first, before we lay judgement.

Thank you for listening.

[Electrix]

X-Men 3 isnt rushed. It was filmed in the same time X-Men 2 was.

Why do people say its rushed? They have been filming nearly everyday for the past 5 months and will continue to do some in Janruary. They schedulers need a triple raise!

[bosef982]

So what you're saying is we don't need another Superman film?



See above. :p

I just hate posts that basically say that my choice (of franchise, of comic book, of writer, what have you) is so above yours. It's much more sophisticated, yours is a popcorn flick when mine will definitely be award-worthy and receives praises from those who "get it".

It's basically saying that if you hate my choice, you just don't get it and therefore I am better than you.



Ummm...

I love posts that are selective in how they read my posts just so they can make a cute, sarcastic comment rather than contribue anything substantive to the debate.

Nowhere in there did I say Superman was my pick, you went ahead and construed that yourself my friend. Not I. I remember saying numerous times -- as as to not offend the cult like X-fanaticism on these boards as of late -- that I like X-Men more than Superman. So it has nothing to do with "sophistication" in that respect.

Get over your own insecurities and stop creating arguments to respond to in order to make yourself feel better, and instead, read my argument for what it is and respond to that -- not one of your own easily construed and pithy ones.

Thank you.

[bosef982]

So here comes my major question:

Who gives a flying ****?

I was never aware that there was such a strict schism between comic fans - in order to be a diehard "X-Men" fan you have to hate "Superman", and vise versa?

If anyone is that hung up on proving some level superiority between the two, be it in film success or otherwise, then...well, I think that person would need to really re-examine their priorities.

Here are the facts:

- YES, X-Men is going to be in stiff competition with "The DaVinci Code" in the bx office. Period. It's from a huge bestseller, which itself garnered a huge amoutn of contreversy, and it has an A-List cast and alot of hype on it's own. And most people who have seen the trailer (that I've personally come across) have said it looks really interesting. So, regardless of what anyone thinks, it's going to be a hurdle, as far as ticket sales goes. It's another big mvie, coming out the same time, duh. In fact, this shouldn't even be an arguement.

-YES, Superman is a far more recognized icon than X-Men. For goodness sake; The Superman logo is considered to be the most universally-recognizable image the world over, more so than even Mickey Mouse and Jesus! Jesus!!!
So, in that way, Superman wins.

Everything else in conjecture. Now, I have some thoughts on this. For example; from all accounts I've come across, the Superman trailer has generated a lot of "yawns", thus far. Superman is a somewhat antiquated hero - a majority of younger people are uniterested in the Boyscout in Blue, because he's too powerful, too "goody-goody"...he doesn't reflect current tastes of the day...it's 50 Cent's World, after all...

And for me, Ratner has a less-than-stellar body of prior work. Music viedos, and the Rush Hour franchise...with his best film to date still being less-than-great. It's quite possible that X-3 is going to have a lot of major problems, and the hurried production doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

In fact, both of these films could sink like stone fish, when all is said and done. And we won't know until we've seen them, and the world puts down their dollars and their votes at the ticket booths.

But really - beyond all arguements - why does it have to be one or the other? As a comic book fan, I look forward to every comic franchise film, as long as it loks to be a good film. What is there to prove, if one does better? That the winning comic book is better? Is there some moral stance in the arguement?

Hoenstly. Personal taste aside, I don't think there's any reasn to play "my- superhero-could-beat-up-your-superhero". And at the very least, we might as well see the frickin' movies first, before we lay judgement.

Thank you for listening.

I am simply responding to a current trend of fanaticism on these boards, so ever present and disgusting that fans here go onto the Superman Returns board and start "trailer comparison" threads just to piss off SUperman fans or people here start entire threads devoted to the illogical and "make-me-feel-better-about-X-Men" threads concerning Superman.

[bosef982]

X-Men 3 isnt rushed. It was filmed in the same time X-Men 2 was.

Why do people say its rushed? They have been filming nearly everyday for the past 5 months and will continue to do some in Janruary. They schedulers need a triple raise!


It's rushed because you have a bunch of new crew that are inexperienced in the franchise (Ranter, Kingberg, etc.) and are not familiar with the series as Singer was when he did X2, doing a film that is supposedly bigger and larger than X3 in the same time span -- and actually a little less -- than X2 was done inside. Also, you have a horrid post production schedule. And did anyone notice how much of this film is taking place outside -- yeah, that's because it's cheaper and quicker to use preexisting sets as well. But oh well, I'm sure you'll all chalk that up to Ratner's "kick Singer's ass" attitude of putting the mutants out in the open or something like that...

You guys have an excuse for everything.

[plasticfangs]

I am simply responding to a current trend of fanaticism on these boards, so ever present and disgusting that fans here go onto the Superman Returns board and start "trailer comparison" threads just to piss off SUperman fans or people here start entire threads devoted to the illogical and "make-me-feel-better-about-X-Men" threads concerning Superman.

Fair enough, then.

Honestly, I have become increasingly aware, as of late, of a growing segment of comic fans that seem to be alot more aggressive, ignorant, and combative than I'm used to. It's shocking to me, and a tad disheartening. I hope I didn't come off as too offensive.

[Electrix]

It's rushed because you have a bunch of new crew that are inexperienced in the franchise (Ranter, Kingberg, etc.) and are not familiar with the series as Singer was when he did X2, doing a film that is supposedly bigger and larger than X3 in the same time span -- and actually a little less -- than X2 was done inside. Also, you have a horrid post production schedule. And did anyone notice how much of this film is taking place outside -- yeah, that's because it's cheaper and quicker to use preexisting sets as well. But oh well, I'm sure you'll all chalk that up to Ratner's "kick Singer's ass" attitude of putting the mutants out in the open or something like that...

You guys have an excuse for everything.

They may be new to the franchise but not new to making movies. They are doing things outside because the script says so. You cant have a car pile up inside. You cant have a bridge destroyed inside. You cant have a protest outside of a building inside. You cant film a ariel stunt from one building to another inside. You cant have a neighborhood inside. You cant film Cyclops at a lake inside. They have filmed outside so that it looks real. Whats wrong with that?

We dont have excuses we have reasons.

[Weadazoid]

um...about the Da Vinchi code, and the box office


I think it will do well, but it isn't exactly a book many you know 13 to 25 year olds have read.

I am 30 and I hate to say it before this movie was being made... I had simply NEVER EVEN HEARD of the Da Vinchi code

the Harry Potter comparison is ludcrous, adults ..not kids thought this book was great, you have to be an adult to be ineterested in a topic like this... Potter apealed to adults and kids..

how many times have you heard some younger kids discussing the Da Vinchi code?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??//

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I don't dog it the level of Stigmata, but I do think ... of the Name of the Rose when I here people talk about it creating issues with the catholic church, the Name of the rose is fantastic movie by the way...but em..even with Sean Connery in the main role.. it's box office power was...not there.

[WorthyStevens]

No, but you're simpilifying it. When you made the X-Men movie, you had to go to producers and filmmakers and say, "Have you ever heard of the X-Men?" They did this with De Santos, and Donner, and Singer, and about each and everyone of the cast.

When you're making a Superman movie, you just say, "We're making a Superman movie..."



To contrast that, when making an X-Men film, you'd simply have to say, "We're making a movie with Wolverine in it."

Granted Wolverine's not as universally popular as Supes, but Wolverine's still very popular.

[Hugh'sMrs]

To contrast that, when making an X-Men film, you'd simply have to say, "We're making a movie with Wolverine in it."

Granted Wolverine's not as universally popular as Supes, but Wolverine's still very popular.

You'd probably still have to clarify that by adding that he's a part of the X-Men whereas Superman needs no further explanation.

[Hotaru]

Here's an article from polish biggest TV magazine "To i Owo";
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It's about 2006 sequels and they mention: Ice Age 2, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, Garfield 2, Goal! 2, The Grudge 2, Saw 2, Underworld: Evolution, Sin City 2, Basic Instinct 2, Mission: Impossible 3, X-Men 3, The Santa Clause 3, Die Hard 4, Scary Movie 4, Young Hannibal: Behind the Mask and Casino Royale.
The direct translation of x-paragraph is:
In "X-Men 3", a sequel to the s-f blockbuster, we'll see further adventures of a group of heroes fighting evil. Starring: Hugh Jackman, Famke Janssen, Rebecca Romjin-Stamos, Anna Paquin.
It's not much, but hey - no Superman! :D

[Kanon]

Cinemania (Argentina) December 2005
Really small coments about movies for the next year. There are no pictures 'cause the mag shipped before the release of the official pics (I expect to see them on the Jan edition). Sin city 2 is also mentioned. The release date for X3 in Argentina is stated as May 25, wich could be true if the the movie opens in a day before/after depending on the country, since movies in Argentina always open on thursdays.

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Superman is not mentioned at all

[Retroman]

:up: Cool!! Keep them coming.

[Neto Magnus]

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7767/toiowo8uv.th.jpg (http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=toiowo8uv.jpg)


Hey, that x-men 3 pic was from a manip that Barney did awhile back. Wow, these foreign editors are some real lazy bastards.

can someone post the original Barney manip?

[Retroman]

Possible news on X3?
Total Film #111 - February 2006

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February 2006
Issue 111

2006 Preview Issue
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Walk The Line
Munich
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Insiders' Guide To The Oscars

NEW FILMS:
28 NEW FILMS REVIEWED THIS ISSUE INCLUDING:
Munich, Jarhead, Memoirs Of A Geisha, A Cock And Bull Story, King Kong, Match Point, Shopgirl, The Producers, Get Rich Or Die Tryin', The Matador


FEATURES:
2006 PREVIEW
Tick tock, tick tock... M:I-3, V For Vendetta, Superman Returns... The full skinny on the explosive movies that are going to, like, totally rock your world over the next 12 months.

ON SALE: 29/12/2005 Source: http://www.totalfilm.com/latest_issues/february_2006

[Retroman]

New York Magazine - December 26, 2005

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Feature
Beware the Undulating Curve of Shifting Expectations!
By Adam Sternbergh

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A landmark! Unmissable! An American masterpiece! Well, it’s official: If you haven’t yet seen Brokeback Mountain, there’s no way you can see it now without being at least a little disappointed. Then there’s the pre-release drubbing of Munich, so it will probably turn out to be better than you’ve heard. Meanwhile, the long-simmering Lost revolt has finally boiled over, as answer-hungry fans prepare to mutiny. So let’s look forward: Scorsese’s got a new film, Auster’s got a new novel, and X-Men 3, thanks to an enticing trailer, is ever-so-slowly reversing the backlash that greeted the hiring of director Brett Ratner—and the film’s not even coming out for another six months.Source:
http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/movies/features/15338/
http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymag/toc/20051226/

[littyx]

^ I like the positive remarks about Ratner and the trailer.

[cookiva]

^ I like the positive remarks about Ratner and the trailer.

Yayayay!!!

[Celestial]

Possible news on X3?
Total Film #111 - February 2006

Nothing new. Here's a transcript:
Okay, so Bryan Singer went off to do Superman and first-choice replacement Matthew Vaughn walked. But don't panic! Brett Ratner's spin on the Marvel Comics mutants looks like business as usual. As co-writer Simon Kinberg told Total Film, everything is set up nicely to follow the Dark Phoenix storyline from the comics, with Famke Jannsen's Jean Grey returning from her watery grave as a much more powerful, much less friendly character. Elsewhere, the arrival of Kelsey Grammer as blue-and-furry The Beast and Vinnie Jones' Juggernaut should spice things up nicely. According to producer Avi Arad, this is the one where Wolverine is forced to do the one thing he hates most: take charge. He'll need to - especially given the storyboards and footage we've seen showing Magneto trashing the Golden Gate Bridge...
X3 is the May entry in their blockbuster calendar and they have a picture of The Beast.

[N_z0]

I think it's pathetic that we have to resort to looking through magazines just to read a one sentence mention of X3. Fox we deserve better than this! :mad:

[neemer5]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but...
On the movie me and my friends made (small indie feature), our lead actress Crystal had called me up for Christmas telling me that she's got a couple of lines in X3. She's been shooting in Vancouver. I'm gonna try and find out all I can from her about the film.

[Electrix]

If she is lying shoot her...

[narrows101]

Comingsoon.net's anticipated movies for 2006.

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=12519

[ljr]

double post

[ljr]

Here's a small piece in Dream watch mag-they questioned patrick stewert and I don't think a certain line in his answer is going to please alot of ppl.


How was doing X-Men 3 without Bryan Singer?

X-Men 3 went through a certain amount of pre-production drama before camera's rolled-Bryan withdrew
from the project and then after some time Matthew
Vaughan came onboard...Then Mattherw also withdrew
from the project,by this time it was almost too late
you can imagine,on a film like this,it takes alot of
preparartion...Then Brett Ratner became the helmer and in
every possible way hit the ground running with this project.
I do know everyone was working 48hrs ahead of
what was being prepped.The pressure on them was
enormous,so much so that the last 10 days I was shooting-
in fact a scene with myself and Ian-we were
shooting in the studio from 6pm to 6am it had
become that upside down.The script I believe is the best of the
three.I t's very intense,it's very emotional,it's very personal about
the individuals that we've already got to know in the first two films.
It has some astonishing set-piece sequences.IT HAS A NUMBER OF
QUITE SIGNIFICANT DEATHS.[From]what i've seen so far,I think it's,
likely to be extraordinary.Some outstanding work is happening in
Vancouver.

[Electrix]

Deaths dont bother me...its Ian and Patrick working 12 hours that worries me! Dont make them retire sooner than they should!

[ljr]

I mean't it definitely looks like cykes and xavier bite the big one.Oh well,so long as Rogue gets to kick ass i'm fine.

[JP]

That was a nice interview with Stewert. :up:

[Retroman]

Cinema 2006 Preview Issue (Germany)

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Source: http://cinema.msn.de/cin
http://cinema.msn.de/cin/heft

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FIRST Asia's Premier Movie Magazine - January 2006 Issue (Singapore)

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Source: http://cgi.ebay.com/Mag-Zhang-Ziyi-Gong-Li-Geisha-X-Men-3-Giant-Poster_W0QQitemZ6025143346QQcategoryZ49020QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem

[Retroman]

Relevant Magazine - Issue #18 (USA)

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COVER STORY:
Welcome To Holywood
God has a starring role in three big new films. RELEVANT takes an in-depth look at The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Tom Hanks' The Da Vinci Code and Terrence Malick's The New World.

2006 Movie Preview
RELEVANT also gives you the inside scoop in the 2006 movie preview that highlights big-budget blockbusters like Superman Returns, Mission: Impossible III, X-Men 3, Cars and the new Pirates of the Caribbean.Source: http://www.relevantmagazine.com/magazine_current_issue.php

[cookiva]

FIRST Asia's Premier Movie Magazine - January 2006 Issue (Singapore)

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Source: http://cgi.ebay.com/Mag-Zhang-Ziyi-Gong-Li-Geisha-X-Men-3-Giant-Poster_W0QQitemZ6025143346QQcategoryZ49020QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem


OMG!!! Thats the same magazine that I got an X2 poster from when I lived in China!!!!

[Retroman]

OMG!!! Thats the same magazine that I got an X2 poster from when I lived in China!!!!
You lived in china?!:eek:

[TNC9852002]

Was it painful living in china?!.. :eek: :p ;)

Now China...That's the place to live!.. :D

-TNC

[Retroman]

(Upcoming) STARBURST SPECIAL #74 BATTLESTAR GALACTICA

Meet the cast and crew of Battlestar Galactica to discuss the second spectacular season of this great sci-fi revival. Exclusive interviews conducted on set with stars such as Edward James Olmos (Commander Adama), Jamie Bamber (Apollo) and Mary McDonnell (President Laura Roslin) accompany a wealth of new stills and never-before- seen production sketches. Plus X-Men 3, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest, and Superman Returns. (Visual Imagination) (CAUT: 4) Magazine, 132pgs, FC SRP: $9.99 Source: http://www.86thfloor.com/Advance%20Order/January2006/catalogue/8_Magazines.htm

[Retroman]

Wizard Magazine (3 Covers incl. X-MEN 3 PHOTO COVER) - #174


Infinite Crisis. Get the latest updates on DC Comics universe shattering mini-series by Geoff Johns and Phil Jimenez. X-Men 3. Exclusive interview and photos from the set of the movie. JLA. Get a first look at what 2006's Justice League team could look like with an exclusive sketchbook. Kubert Brothers. Find out what series Andy and Adam are drawing for DC Comics this summer. New Avengers Illuminati. The book where everything explodes for major Marvel Characters. It kickstarts the publishers massive summer superhero war, and we get the lowdown from principal writers Brain Michael Bendis and Mark Millar. - Cover Price $5.99 - Westfield Price $5.25Source: http://westfieldcompany.net/wow/mags.html

[JP]

Hmm, that would be March's issue wouldn't it?

[Svenhorn83]

Cinema 2006 Preview Issue (Germany)

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http://spezial.cinema.msn.de/heftinhalt/scans/inhalt_cin.jpg

Source: http://cinema.msn.de/cin
http://cinema.msn.de/cin/heft


I come from Germany and I will buy it!!!

[Storm22]

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet but in the latest edition of Empire Magazine in UK and Ireland there's 2 pages on "X3:Beauty or Beast?" - it talks about how the tide has really turned on this film, starting off with negativity surrounding the director changes, the fans worries over the rumoured script leak etc but with the "ace new teaser" Empire says the hype has built considerably for the film, Beast and Angel look great, the addition of Juggernaut should spice things up, they're positive about all the cast returning. There's a few quotes in there from Lauren Schulner Donner(correct name??) aswell, overall a very positive outlook on the film, great news!

[N_z0]

Cool.

Any new info on the article?

[CapBeerCino]

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet but in the latest edition of Empire Magazine in UK and Ireland there's 2 pages on "X3:Beauty or Beast?" - it talks about how the tide has really turned on this film, starting off with negativity surrounding the director changes, the fans worries over the rumoured script leak etc but with the "ace new teaser" Empire says the hype has built considerably for the film, Beast and Angel look great, the addition of Juggernaut should spice things up, they're positive about all the cast returning. There's a few quotes in there from Lauren Schulner Donner(correct name??) aswell, overall a very positive outlook on the film, great news!

Yep, read it. It has a part about "is this the beginning of the end for Cyclops?" :(

[Iceman/Psylocke]

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet but in the latest edition of Empire Magazine in UK and Ireland there's 2 pages on "X3:Beauty or Beast?" - it talks about how the tide has really turned on this film, starting off with negativity surrounding the director changes, the fans worries over the rumoured script leak etc but with the "ace new teaser" Empire says the hype has built considerably for the film, Beast and Angel look great, the addition of Juggernaut should spice things up, they're positive about all the cast returning. There's a few quotes in there from Lauren Schulner Donner(correct name??) aswell, overall a very positive outlook on the film, great news!

Gonna go & buy it

[CapBeerCino]

Cool.

Any new info on the article?

Not really:
"the action is much bigger," says Ratner. "but it's not action fot action sake. There's a lot of heart and a lot of emotion, a little bit of sex appeal and romance. This has a much bigger scope."

The rest are briefs about Angel, Beast, returning characters and villains along with some pics from the teaser.

[Electrix]

Its 2006 and the hype is beginning!

[TNC9852002]

It's so crazy to me...65% of the revealed plot from AICN's script review is hinted at right there in the teaser. Why did everyone hate the script review just to make a 180 and go crazy from watching the teaser?..

I tell ya...Some people are living in their own bandwagons... :p

-TNC

[MoPlaYa43]

i liked the script...i just thought it needed alittle work like Cyclops not dying

[ljr]

I don't really like cykes dying-but if it serves the script Ok.I mean it's not as if he and others haven't been killed off in the comics.

[MoPlaYa43]

very true...I dont mind deaths in X3 but too many deaths could ruin the movie

[ljr]

It really depends on who and why.I mean I can see cykes,professor x and ppl like mags dying.That wouldn't be to much after all x3 will be a war and in any war you have a lot of casualties.

[shuttlepod_one]

On Friday I saw the Starburst Magazine in a local bookstore and they gave X3 an anticipation rating of 9 (10 being the highest, 1 being the lowest).

[kevinpenni]

X3 in People issue with Ashley and Brandon.

[Retroman]

Energy Guide (Downers Grove Park district) - Winter & Spring 2006

Hollywood Boulevard Movie & Lunch

We are going to Chicagoland’s best movie theatre.Watch “X-Men 3” from your high-back leather chair while enjoying in-your-seat service. Included in the price is admission, soda, popcorn and a slice of pizza. Register by May 19.

Age: 12 - 18 years m/M: 10/25
Location: 1001 W. 75th St.,Woodridge, IL
Class #4603007
Date 5/27
Day SA Time 11:30 - 2:00 pm
$R/NR $15/$23Source: http://www.woodridgeparks.org/06WinterSpringweb.pdf

[Retroman]

Slash Magazine - Issue 04, Autumn '05

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D- "So what's next for you Omahyra?"

O- "I'm going to do "X-Men 3" with Brett Ratner...I think I'm Stacey X.Source: http://www.slashmagazine.com/

Qoute thanks to imdb forum member faith_akiyama - Source: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0504962/board/thread/30560671?d=33009812#33009812

[LittleMissVixen]

Hmmmmm....interesting...Stacy X...Archlight...Stacy X...

I think they might have taken the look of "Stacy X" and given her different powers.

[Specter313]

Oooh, good, some better knowledge of who she's playing. Could you put this in Omahyra's thread too, Retro? Thanks.

And to go a little ot, do you have a imdb account? Ya ever been to the X3 boards there?

[newwaveboy87]

god i hope she's Stacy X

[Retroman]

Oooh, good, some better knowledge of who she's playing. Could you put this in Omahyra's thread too, Retro? Thanks.
Done.:)

And to go a little ot, do you have a imdb account? Ya ever been to the X3 boards there?
Yeah i've got one but i use it to browse.;) I check out other forums all the time but only really post here.

[narrows101]

Hugh Jackman interview at Entertainment Weekly:

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2006/01/the_popwatch_in_1.html

January 06, 2006
The PopWatch Interview: Hugh Jackman on 'X-Men 3'

Word is X-Men's Wolverine is getting some new moves. Freshman mutants in the movie franchise, like Angel and Beast, hog all the buzz these days, but don't expect the vet to sit on the sidelines filing his claws. In fact, Hugh Jackman, who plays the hotheaded, cigar-smoking superhero, recently told Entertainment Weekly's Neil Drumming that X-Men 3, directed by Brett Ratner and opening May 26, will roll out a much more refined Wolvie.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What's different about Wolverine 3.0?

HUGH JACKMAN: We tried to incorporate a little more of some of the artwork of the comics into Wolverine's fighting style. I was very adamant at the beginning in 1 and 2 -- I used to watch tapes of Mike Tyson -- and I was like, I don't want it to be pretty. I don't want it to be martial arts. I don't want him to be anything other than, like, a street fighter. He doesn't fight for the sake of fighting. If he can take someone's head off in the first punch, he'll take it off. Simon [Crane, stunt coordinator for Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Troy, and both Tomb Raiders] kind of convinced me and we worked on some styles of incorporating some of the artwork in the comics, which is a little stylized, more to use what his strength is -- which is [that he's] small. Me, I'm actually a tall man, so that took a little training and I worked hard on that.

So here's the big question: Will fans of the comic book be satisfied -- especially since Bratt Ratner is new to the franchise?

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of things we really tried to get in 1 and 2 which -- I don't mean to be blunt -- were just real expensive and we couldn't get them in until 1 and 2 were so successful. So there's some sequences there that the fans -- if you go to that midnight screening on the first night, they'll just be going ballistic. There's some specific choreography, famous fighting moves, that we use in this movie that we haven't been able to do before.

The fans have been the foundation of the success of this movie and they're never forgotten. Trust me. No decision is made without considering the history of each character. You don't want to come in and just rewrite the history books. And let's face it: If I do a disservice to Wolverine, I can easily be spat on in the street.

What's up with a possible Wolverine spin-off?

I'm into it. We're actually working on a script. X-Men is an ensemble movie, even if some characters are in it more than others. It's about the X-Men. I love playing the part. I think it's the best part going around. I may be biased, but I think there's so much still to be mined, still to be learned from that [character]. I think it will stand up to a feature-length movie. And we've had some really amazing interests from some great filmmakers and great writers also really intrigued by the character.

Would you consider writing it yourself?

I will always put my input in from the actor's point of view. At this point I feel like I know the character, from some perspective, incredibly well, so I will always have a lot to say. But no.

[Electrix]

Cool find :up:

[Anton Oksehud]

Hugh Jackman interview at Entertainment Weekly:


There's some specific choreography, famous fighting moves, that we use in this movie that we haven't been able to do before.



- Fastball special, anyone??? :up: :up: :up: