DC Comics Character Tournament

[Genesis 1.0]

We agree!

Also Mr. Terrific.

JSA wins all night long.

Agree? ME and YOU?

Oh crap, something's really wrong here.:csad:

[CanaryFan]

6-2 JSA so far.

[Ahura Mazda]

The Legion

[Majic Walrus]

Agree? ME and YOU?

Oh crap, something's really wrong here.:csad:

You must be stupid. :O

[CanaryFan]

JSA wins 6-3

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

THUNDER

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/DC%20Female%20heros/194432-82772-thunder_large.jpg

VS

ANDROMEDA

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/DC%20Female%20heros/698943-andromeda_super.jpg

[Anubis]

That may be a bit too obscure, even for me.

[3dman27]

thunder if it helps is the 31rst century decendant of billy [captain marvel] batson while andromada is the cousin of mon el
and she is my pick for this match

[Anubis]

Yeah, I gathered that.

[CanaryFan]

Thunder - http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/ThunderII.htm

Andromeda - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(DC_Comics)

Basically a twist on Mary marvel vs Supergirl.

[Silicon Surfer]

I had quit reading DC before either of these characters came along so I am not familiar with either of them. Since I have always liked the Daxamites and slightly disliked the Marvels, without any particular reason for either, I will choose Andromeda.

[Genesis 1.0]

Damn, really obscure.

Andromeda

[WolfCypher]

Thunder.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Thunder

[Anubis]

Thundercats! Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Heh, Thunder.

[Majic Walrus]

After reading about Andromeda she seems like a weaker Kryptonian. Thunder for the win.

[Majic Walrus]

double

[Silicon Surfer]

For a while at least Daxamites were more powerful than Kryptonians as they were still at pre-crisis power levels.

[Anubis]

Yeah, but that one isn't from that time. At this point (Or rather, that point), they're basically Junior Supermen.

[CanaryFan]

4-3 Thunder so far.

[Lobo]

Andromeda.

[Sparta*]

Gotta go with Thunder here

[CanaryFan]

The winner by a 5-4 split decision and new womens heavy hitter champion of the future! Cece THUNDER Beck, Beck!

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

THE CURSE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/135925-151043-the-curse_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/151043-the-curse/105-135925/)

VS

SUPERMAN

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35895/767163-goldensuperman_color_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/goldensuperman_color/105-767163/)

[Genesis 1.0]

F'n Superman...

Curse

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The Curse

[Majic Walrus]

the Curse

[Lobo]

Superman :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Anubis]

Curse

[3dman27]

who's the curse ?

[Silicon Surfer]

This character is so obscure that I not only have never heard of him, I can't find a bio.

[CanaryFan]

The curse is - http://spider-bob.com/gods_monsters/dc/Curse.htm

and he's leading 4-1

[3dman27]

ah he's an evil dr fate as it were and as i suspected

[Genesis 1.0]

Supe's jobbing aura is working against him for once.

About 10 years too late.

[Silicon Surfer]

The Curse

[Canadian Rider]

Supes gets owned by someone described like this:

possessing knowledge of a wide variety of offensive and defensive mystic spells, capable of possessing other beings.

He has no defense against Magic and gets his cape handed to him ...

The best part is the curse could possess him and make him beat the crap out of himself ... good times! :ghost:

[Anubis]

I loved that last Dr. Fate Mini he was in. He kicked Hector's ass.

[CanaryFan]

6-1 Curse!

[WolfCypher]

Superman no like magic.

Curse, whoever the hell he may be...

[CanaryFan]

Curse wins 7-1

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

THE RIDDLER

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3133/110229-189654-riddler_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/189654-riddler/105-110229/)

VS

THE TRICKSTER

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9506/283570-7605-trickster_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/7605-trickster/105-283570/)

[Genesis 1.0]

Hard to vote against a classic....

Trickster

[Silicon Surfer]

The Trickster

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Hard to vote against a classic....


aren't they both classic though?


Riddler

[Genesis 1.0]

I don't think there's much beef as to who's the greater classic in general.

It's the Riddler, just like Joker, or Penguin, or Two Face.

[Anubis]

Trickster

Unlike the Riddler, he don't f**k around.

[Genesis 1.0]

Nah, he just f**** around with style.

[greenrage36]

I have to agree with Genesis..Riddler wins this with smarts, cunning, and style!!!!

[3dman27]

riddle me this
why is a vote for the riddler not a badmark on your reputation?
because thers no STIGMA in a vote for edward NYGMA
the riddler

[Majic Walrus]

riddle me this
why is a vote for the riddler not a badmark on your reputation?
because thers no STIGMA in a vote for edward NYGMA
the riddler

:lmao:

^This

[Lobo]

The Riddler

[3dman27]

happpy i gave you a chuckle majik

[WolfCypher]

Riddler.

[CanaryFan]

Riddler leads 6-3

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

THE THUNDERBOLT

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8632/524432-jsa_thunderbolt_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/jsa_thunderbolt/105-524432/)

VS

DR FATE (Hector Hall)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/826177-hector_1_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/hector_1/105-826177/)

[Majic Walrus]

Thunderbolt has the raw power I think, but Dr Fate has enough power coupled with more experience and a better understanding of magicks.

Dr. Fate.

[greenrage36]

Thunderbolt has the raw power I think, but Dr Fate has enough power coupled with more experience and a better understanding of magicks.

Dr. Fate.

Couldn't have said it better myself...Dr. Fate for me as well...

:bh:

[BrianWilly]

Again I have to ask, because it's never really clear:

Which Dr. Fate? The one pictured is Hector Hall, but the current one -- as of the past two years -- is a new Kent Nelson, and the difference in their power levels is enormous.

[Genesis 1.0]

I'll give the upstart with more power a vote.

Thunderbolt

[CanaryFan]

Again I have to ask, because it's never really clear:

Which Dr. Fate? The one pictured is Hector Hall, but the current one -- as of the past two years -- is a new Kent Nelson, and the difference in their power levels is enormous.

Hector

2-1 Fate so far.

[Anubis]

I'm gonna go with Hector, and I'm gonna assume that's Hector, because while the T-Bolt may be powerful, it's only as powerful as the person telling it what to do. Jakeem has come a long way, but I gotta figure Hector has a better chance with Nabu telling him what to do than T-Bolt does with Jakeem.

[BrianWilly]

Hector.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Thunderbolt. All Jakeem has to say is kill Dr Fate and it's over.

[Anubis]

No it isn't, and the Thunderbolt wouldn't do that, and neither would Jakeem.

[Majic Walrus]

Again I have to ask, because it's never really clear:

Which Dr. Fate? The one pictured is Hector Hall, but the current one -- as of the past two years -- is a new Kent Nelson, and the difference in their power levels is enormous.

I voted based on Hector. Isn't Kent dead now?

[Anubis]

Theres another Kent. Kent's nephew or something. He's the new Dr. Fate. Hector's dead. Living in the Dreaming along with his wife and son(Dream).

[BrianWilly]

I honestly don't understand why "There is a new Dr. Fate, his name is Kent Nelson, HE IS NEW HE IS NOT THE OLD ONE" has been so slow to get around. :O I swear, ten years from now everyone's still gonna be wondering why there's a NEW DR. FATE.

In any case, the Thunderbolt can't just do anything just because Jakeem tells him to. He has limits. He tried to take on the Spectre based on Jakeem's orders and got pizzowned.

[WolfCypher]

Dr. Fate.

[Genesis 1.0]

Wait....

There's a NEW DR. FATE?!

:o:o:o

[WolfCypher]

Wait....

There's a NEW DR. FATE?!

:o:o:o

Kent V. Nelson.

[Genesis 1.0]

Sarcasm.

It's on sale at Wal-Mart.

[3dman27]

s'cool say you t-bolt takes it

[The_Mighty_Thor]

In any case, the Thunderbolt can't just do anything just because Jakeem tells him to. He has limits. He tried to take on the Spectre based on Jakeem's orders and got pizzowned.

Very few limits, and dr Fate , even Hector, is no Spectre

[CanaryFan]

5-3 Dr Fate

[Hound55]

Thought I'd answered this one...

I'll go with Fate since its Hector. More experienced, better understanding of magic and its applications and limitations.

[CanaryFan]

Dr Fate wins 6-3.

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

JUDOMASTER

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/22413/458875-judomaster02_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/judomaster02/105-458875/)

VS

KATANA

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7658/347830-165722-katana_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/165722-katana/105-347830/)

[BrianWilly]

Katana.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Katana

[Genesis 1.0]

Katana

[3dman27]

judomaster

[Majic Walrus]

Katana

[Batmansince1939]

Katana!

[CanaryFan]

5-1 Katana so far.

[WolfCypher]

Katana

[CanaryFan]

Katana wins 6-1

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

SILVER SCARAB

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8842/283733-140518-silver-scarab_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/140518-silver-scarab/105-283733/)

VS

BLUE BEETLE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13925/294332-49268-blue-beetle_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/49268-blue-beetle/105-294332/)

[Anubis]

Blue beetle

[Genesis 1.0]

Good match.

Blue Beetle...barely.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Scarab

[greenrage36]

Blue Beetle

[WolfCypher]

Blue Beetle with a side of favoritism.

[3dman27]

silver scarab

[CanaryFan]

4-2 for the Blue Beetle so far!

[Majic Walrus]

Blue Beetle.

[Batmansince1939]

blue beattle

[CanaryFan]

Blue Beetle wins 6-2

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

LIGHTNING LAS

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/26454/794373-lightlass2_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/lightlass2/105-794373/)

VS

BLACK LIGHTNING

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/743227-11295_400x600_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/11295_400x600/105-743227/)

[WolfCypher]

I'm gonna have to think this one through...do some research on power levels when I can. Though I'm leaning towardd BL.

[Genesis 1.0]

Always bet on Black...

BL

[Silicon Surfer]

I am not familiar with that version but I am not voting against a Ranzz when it comes to an electrical battle.

[Genesis 1.0]

I am not familiar with that version but I am not voting against a Ranzz when it comes to an electrical battle.

What part of ALWAYS bet on black didn't you understand?:o

Ranzz Smanzz, they've been handled before.:cmad:

[WolfCypher]

OK, finally back online...

Black Lightning.

[Majic Walrus]

LL has gravity manipulation powers which could come in handy but I think that BL would be able to counteract them with his own abilities. When it comes down to it this is about who the better fighter is.

That's another vote for Black Lightning.

[Hound55]

I think I'll go with the Passenger 57 route as well...

Light lass has the power of anti-gravity... By using the name Lightning Lass I'm assuming it's prior to the name change and the appearance of the gravity cancelling powers, or even the post-Infinite Crisis return of the character.

[CanaryFan]

I think I'll go with the Passenger 57 route as well...

Light lass has the power of anti-gravity... By using the name Lightning Lass I'm assuming it's prior to the name change and the appearance of the gravity cancelling powers, or even the post-Infinite Crisis return of the character.


Huh?

3-1 BL and one mystery vote.

[3dman27]

lightning lass

[greenrage36]

Black Lightning all the way!!

:bh:

[Silicon Surfer]

Remember that Lightning Lass has a flight ring while BL is groundbound. She has far greater speed and maneuverability.

[greenrage36]

Hmm..I always thought BL could manipulate the electron-particle-thingies around him enough to be fairly mobile..maybe I'm remembering something wrong (it's been known to happen), but I think he's got a few flight/movement tricks up his sleeve to compensate for the ring..

:bh:

[Silicon Surfer]

According to Wikipedia the flight was only displayed during Infinite Crisis. It may or may not be in current continuity.

[greenrage36]

According to Wikipedia the flight was only displayed during Infinite Crisis. It may or may not be in current continuity.

Yeah, I was a little unsure of this power as well, and checked Wikipedia too...(I suppose I should have checked BEFORE I posted but ah well..), for some reason I thought he always did that...Good god, am I getting his comic memories mixed up with my memories of the Super Friends or something? lol Anyway, I'm not changing my vote..I still think BL will win this!!

*on a side note...I request a lightning bolt emoticon for just such discussion matter!!! ZAPPP!!!*

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Lightning Lass

[CanaryFan]

Black Lightning takes it 4-3

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

It's the nicest powerhouse in the universe VS the nastiest powerhouse in the universe to decide once and for all if nice guys really do always finish last.

CAPTAIN MARVEL

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/669/99557-103568-captain-marvel_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/103568-captain-marvel/105-99557/)

VS

LOBO

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/38687/901044-lobo_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/lobo/105-901044/)

[Sparta*]

The original Marvel FTW

[Genesis 1.0]

Marvel's superior Intelligence worries me but that's it...

Lobo

[3dman27]

the big red cheese

[BrianWilly]

I say Marvel, 'cause I can't think of a single thing Lobo could do that would actually faze him.

[Silicon Surfer]

Lobo

[Genesis 1.0]

I say Marvel, 'cause I can't think of a single thing Lobo could do that would actually faze him.

...........

Aside from what he does to Superman.:o

[BrianWilly]

And what does he do to Superman, out of curiosity? I don't believe I'm aware of any times that Lobo's ever beaten Superman. I may be mistaken.

[TheCorpulent1]

He punches Superman and Superman goes "ow!" 'cause Lobo's pretty strong. But I'm still gonna go with Captain Marvel on this one. He's got class and, unfortunately, Lobo does tend to get owned a lot for a guy with such a huge ego.

[Genesis 1.0]

And what does he do to Superman, out of curiosity? I don't believe I'm aware of any times that Lobo's ever beaten Superman. I may be mistaken.

You said 'faze' not beat so....yeah.:o

Oh and Lobo beat the **** out of Supes in the comic where Lobo fought Superman he was killing him and recieving NO competition. He was getting drunk while trying to see where Supes was hiding and Superman had to trick him into leaving earth to survive.

Lobo was beating the crap out of Clark and he didn't even really exert himself.

:o

[Anubis]

Marvel

[WolfCypher]

Captain Marvel.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Billy

[Majic Walrus]

Cap'n Marvel FTW all the way.

Lobo might be tough but he's no where near as powerful as Billy is.

[Supertompa]

Captain Marvel but Lobo is tough as all says but captain marvel is to powerful so my vote goes to Captain marvel

[Hound55]

How is Captain Marvel stopping Lobo..? Cos you know Lobo won't stop til he's dead... and all it takes is one drop of blood...

[Supertompa]

How is Captain Marvel stopping Lobo..? Cos you know Lobo won't stop til he's dead... and all it takes is one drop of blood...

Well u have right there its tie actully but still cap.marvel is stronger

[Mazrim Taim]

Lobo

[CanaryFan]

The nice guy finishes first for once. Captain Marvel wins 9-4

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

SHADO

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8200/255306-38363-shado_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/38363-shado/105-255306/)

VS

DIANA (of the New Olympians)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3664/276878-51993-diana_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/51993-diana/105-276878/)

[Genesis 1.0]

Voting for the one I know....

Shado

[Anubis]

I have no idea who that b***h that ain't shado is, so I abstain.

[Silicon Surfer]

Never heard of either one of them so I am sitting this one out also.

[3dman27]

diana

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I remember Diana from Maxie Zues's new Olympians but I don't remember her doing anything to stand out as one of the elite archers in the DC universe. Shado on the other hand has shown up Green Arrow more than once.

Shado

[Supertompa]

Diana

[Majic Walrus]

Diana

[CanaryFan]

Heh, every time I try to use someone that hasn't already been used a million times no one votes. Where are all the DC fans.

3-2 Diana so far.:wow:

[Genesis 1.0]

DC fan and DC Zombie Fanatic are very different things.

[Lobo]

Shado.

Can I recommend a future bout of Circe vs Felix Faust?

[3dman27]

Heh, every time I try to use someone that hasn't already been used a million times no one votes. Where are all the DC fans.

3-2 Diana so far.:wow:

some make that most of the match ups i suggested using more obscure dc charaters felll flat

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, come on, there's obscure and then there's obscure. Diana of the New Olympians? You could easily read DC comics for years and have no clue who she is. I know this to be true because it's exactly the situation I find myself in. :oldrazz:

Anyway, since all I can go on is Wikipedia and what others have said, I'm gonna go with Shado. Diana doesn't seem to have any particularly potent archery powers, and Shado's proven that she's among the best archers in the DC universe, and not too shabby in the martial arts department to boot.

[Vengeance]

Shado

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Well Diana is suposed to be named after the goddess of the hunt and is suposed to be an extrodinary tracker and archer. The problem is she lost an archery competion to Katana. Archery isn't even Katana's main skill. In fact I don't know if she's ever picked up a bow any other time. I mean she's a samurai so kyudo should be one of her skills but not to the level of being one of the best in DC's universe.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8842/340462-96602-diana_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/96602-diana/105-340462/)

[Sparta*]

i'll go with Shado here I guess. I'm all for the obscure characters but when the obscure characters are busted out it seems not many people vote lol

[Genesis 1.0]

There's obscure and then there's New Olymps.

[CanaryFan]

Shado wins 5-3

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

REQUESTED MATCH

CIRCE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/276024-138818-circe_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/138818-circe/105-276024/)

VS

FELIX FAUST

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9241/617054-felixfaust_large.png (http://www.comicvine.com/felixfaust/105-617054/)

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Circe

[TheCorpulent1]

I've always gotten the impression that Circe is more powerful, even though I haven't had a ton of exposure to either. So I'll go with Circe.

[Genesis 1.0]

Faust is an up and down guy, there's no consistency.

Circe

[BrianWilly]

I think either one of them could take the other in the right circumstances, especially considering how both of them often get foiled by their own hubris. Faust is a better long-term planner, Circe's just capricious most of the time. But in general I would say that, yes, Circe's more powerful, so I'll vote for her.

[WolfCypher]

Circe = DC Goddess
Faust = Sorcerer

Circe.

[Genesis 1.0]

Circe does tend to be an extremely foolish goddess.

[BrianWilly]

Weeeeelllll...Circe is basically a goddess in title, but she's never really been treated that way. She's basically a demigoddess, which is often not much more powerful than sorcerers.

[Genesis 1.0]

I agree completely.

Reminds me of the way Ares is treated in the MU.

[TheCorpulent1]

The gods of the Marvel universe are all relatively weak, at least compared to DC's.

[Anubis]

Circe

[Genesis 1.0]

The gods of the Marvel universe are all relatively weak, at least compared to DC's.

I wouldn't go that far, there's different varities of a 'god' class in the MU. Asgardians, Skrull Pantheon, Olympian Pantheon, China, ect. on down to the Eternals and Titans, who are gods in their own right.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, and none of them really stack up to the level of their DC counterparts except for some of the Asgardians and Hercules. Marvel's Ares is a complete wuss compared to DC's Ares (his recent, retardedly easy "death" notwithstanding).

[Silicon Surfer]

Felix Faust

[Lobo]

I've read a fair amount with both and Circe does seem/is more powerful IMO, but in the end I think she'd underestimate Faust and lose the battle. Felix ftw

[greenrage36]

I agree that Circe is probably the more powerful of the two, but I think Felix certainly has chance at winning this, so I'm gonna roll one his way...

[3dman27]

felix

[Hound55]

Well... last I read of Faust (which admittedly wasn't all that recent) was in 52 where it ends with him essentially getting butt f***ed for all eternity.

If this is like the Marvel/DC thread where it involves the most recent incantations I would suggest that that might inhibit his own performance somewhat...

[Majic Walrus]

Most recent living incarnation unless stated otherwise I believe.

Circe FTW. Felix is smart but his attacks are always in the forms of schemes not one-on-ones.

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, and none of them really stack up to the level of their DC counterparts except for some of the Asgardians and Hercules. Marvel's Ares is a complete wuss compared to DC's Ares (his recent, retardedly easy "death" notwithstanding).

I don't agree with that assesment at all, but whatever.:o

[BrianWilly]

DCU gods are more like actual mythological gods. Except that actual mythological gods get defeated and act cowardly all the time, so...

[Anubis]

They're also dreams. I don't care what Corp says, I've always liked that aspect.

[CanaryFan]

7-4 Circe so far.

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

SINESTRO

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/35895/809911-sinestro_3_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/sinestro_3/105-809911/)

VS

SUPERMAN

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10684/275398-156234-edgar-tadeo_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/156234-edgar-tadeo/105-275398/)

[Hound55]

Any particular version of Superman..?

[Genesis 1.0]

....

Superman

{gag}

[3dman27]

sinestro all he has to do is will his poer ring beams to green [or if superman in airborne GOLD ]kryptonite and avoila NO MORE MAN OF STEEL

[Anubis]

He doesn't have the Will to do anything like that.

Supes.

[Lobo]

Superman

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Sinestro

[Silicon Surfer]

Sinestro

[greenrage36]

I have no problem with Superman winning this...Sinestro can will or command the ring to do whatever he wants...I don't think it will be enough...

[BrianWilly]

I think Superman.

Sinestro is a master of the power ring, both green and yellow, but I don't believe I've ever seen him conjure up the utter raw power it would take to resist the epic blunt weapon that is Superman.

[Majic Walrus]

Superman. Yellow or Green ring Sinestro would still eventually have to recharge, Supes has gone quite a long time without being in direct sunlight and he's nigh invulnerable. Worst case scenario... Sinestro gets tuckered out and Clark punches him... really hard in teh face. Match over.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'll go with Superman.

[Silicon Surfer]

Sinestro could create an energy field around Supes that absorbs solar energy from Supes own body and uses the energy to constrict. Invisibility and intangibility would provide complete protection. If Sinestro fights smart there should be no way for Supes to win.

[TheCorpulent1]

Invisibility and intangibility don't seem to be part of the standard GL/Sinestro Corps arsenal since Rebirth. Or even the Silver Age, since I don't recall Kyle using them (although I could have missed issues where he did). GLs pretty much live and die solely by their constructs now, and I wouldn't bet on Sinestro conjuring an energy absorption field that could completely drain Superman before Superman could close the distance and smash through his defenses.

[Silicon Surfer]

I've seen a scan of Hal and Kilowog explaining to Thomas Kalmaku about the ring and it refers to both invisibility and intangibility in the explanation. Then Hal lets Thomas Kalmaku try out the ring. I don't know where the scans came from but they do not appear to be Silver Age.

[BrianWilly]

Kyle has turned invisible (and inaudible) several times, most notably in Identity Crisis when he and Wally spied on the mindwipers, and also in JLA/Avengers when he and Aquaman spied on Dr. Doom. Sinestro could hide from Superman if he wanted to. 'Course, that wouldn't win him the fight.

[Genesis 1.0]

Doesn't Supes have the ability to see certain spectrums still? So it depends on how Sinestro phases out.

[Anubis]

That's what I was gonna point out. He could turn invisible, but it wouldn't do any good against Supes. I mean, If Hawkman could see them I'm sure Mr. Every type of Vision imaginable could as well.

[TheCorpulent1]

Birthright Spirit-Vision to the rescue! :D

:csad:

[WolfCypher]

Superman

[BrianWilly]

Hawkman couldn't see Kyle. He only saw Wally, vibrating at superspeed. Ollie bluffed Kyle into appearing.

I highly doubt that Superman could get past power-ring induced invisibility, unless the wearer was dumb enough to make himself invisible only to the human eye and not to all alien/physiological detection. That would defeat the whole purpose of a power ring usable by, y'know, every single species in the universe. The Guardians' tech is light-years beyond almost all other tech. I don't know about the soul vision dickery, but I assume there must be a physiological way to get around it.

[Genesis 1.0]

Invisibility is still bending light or other spectrums around you to render you unseen, so he still risks disturbing a field that can be detected.

[Silicon Surfer]

Invisibility is still bending light or other spectrums around you to render you unseen, so he still risks disturbing a field that can be detected.

It doesn't necessarily mean bending it around you, you can also alter your refractory index so that the the light and other wavelengths pass through you undisturbed.

[Genesis 1.0]

It doesn't necessarily mean bending it around you, you can also alter your refractory index so that the the light and other wavelengths pass through you undisturbed.

Your classic invisibility IS bending light or other wavelengths around you but if he does take the route you mentioned, he may walk out okay.

[Harlekin]

Sinestro

[The_Mighty_Thor]

For me the gl's have given Supes tough fights in the past and Sinestro is one of the best and most ruthless, he just does everything in yellow.

[CanaryFan]

Superman wins 8-5

[Genesis 1.0]

Ugh.

A necessary evil.

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

TRIGON

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18154/612398-trigon_01_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/trigon_01/105-612398/)

VS

THE SPECTRE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/27967/829770-trial_separation_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/trial_separation/105-829770/)

[Genesis 1.0]

Which Spectre?

[CanaryFan]

Crispus Allen

[Genesis 1.0]

Crispus was an interesing incarnaton but he did get his ass kicked by Libra....

Trigon

[BrianWilly]

The Spectre.

[Lobo]

Trigon. He's an insanely awesome, incredibly powerful villain. Wolfman needs to do a new story with him. Terror of Trigon just might be my favorite trade ever.

[SurfDUI]

Phil Spectre

[Anubis]

Getting Trigon high on coke then shooting him in the face wont work.

[Majic Walrus]

Allen or not Spectre wins.

[Genesis 1.0]

Trigon. He's an insanely awesome, incredibly powerful villain. Wolfman needs to do a new story with him. Terror of Trigon just might be my favorite trade ever.

Yeah, he really is underusd and unerrated for a character THAT powerful, DC would be crazy not to use him again sometime in the near future. It would freshen things up quite a bit.

[3dman27]

aside from the justice league who could handle him te's to powerful for any solo hero

[The_Mighty_Thor]

No matter which incarnation it is it's still the god damn Spectre! He wins.

[CanaryFan]

4-2 Spectre so far.

[Silicon Surfer]

Trigon

[Sparta*]

probably Trigon

[Anubis]

We get a black Spectre, one of the most powerful beings in comicdom, and they nurf him. No justice.

[Genesis 1.0]

Is that you Sharpton?:o

[TheCorpulent1]

In fairness, they almost always nerf the Spectre. Last time he kicked major ass, he didn't have any host.

[Genesis 1.0]

That's true. Besides, alot of great characters get nerfed.

It's an Equal Opportunity Asswhipping.

[Lobo]

In fairness, they almost always nerf the Spectre. Last time he kicked major ass, he didn't have any host.

After reading the Ostrander run, nothing lives up that Spectre. so I get disappointed reading his current appearances.

[CanaryFan]

4-4 so far.

[WolfCypher]

Trigon.

[greenrage36]

Trigon is one batch of awesome..but like it was stated before..it's the Spectre that will be walking (floating?) away with victory over this match.

*come to think of it, did these two mystical/cosmic powerhouses ever meet? If DC opted to bring Trigon back into a story-line, I could see Specs stepping up to the plate to take 'em on...(unless the Spectre is currently in la-la land? I dunno..haven't seen him around lately myself..)

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, Trigon is more than powerful enough to finally do in Allen. The mystical energies he can bring to bear are totally underrated.

[greenrage36]

Meh, Trigon is more than powerful enough to finally do in Allen. The mystical energies he can bring to bear are totally underrated.

Well, I'll stand by the fact that Trigon, out of a LOT cosmic powerhouses, stands an excellent chance against Specs..I'm not convinced it will be enough, but it's a good match! :up:

[Genesis 1.0]

Of course, I'd like to see DC pull off this match or something akin to it.

[greenrage36]

Yeah..I think that would be a issue/series to watch! :wow:

[CanaryFan]

Still 5-5. I'll have to cast the deciding vote so I say this version of the Spectre just barely survives Trigons attack and pulls out a victory.

[CanaryFan]

GREEN LANTERN
(John Stewart)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3133/172005-179039-john-stewart_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/179039-john-stewart/105-172005/)

VS

BIZARRO

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/763313-bizarro_4_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/bizarro_4/105-763313/)

[3dman27]

green lantern

[BrianWilly]

Stewart. Bizarro is dangerous, but he hasn't the finesse it would take to bring down a Lantern. GLs are more than used to dealing with pure brute force.

[Lobo]

John, not easily, though.

[Anubis]

Johnny boy.

[Sparta*]

ill vote for Bizarro

[Soggy]

Green Latern

[greenrage36]

I'm ALMOST tempted to vote for Bizarro..but I just can't quite see him winning this...he just ain't got the braaaain powah! He might be able to stretch out the length of the battle, due to his toughness (and possibly not realizing he's possibly in over his head), but GL for the win eventually...

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Bizarro

[Steel Thunder]

Green lantern

[Genesis 1.0]

Stewart

[Silicon Surfer]

Bizarro, he has the power and durability to keep going until Stewart weakens.

[Genesis 1.0]

That's true hands down, about the power and durablity, but it's the Intelligence that handicaps him. Stewart is very intelligent AND he's damn good at tactics when it comes to dropping a guy stronger than him, as an added negative for Bizz, Stewart's also pretty inventive and with a Ring, that's murder.

[Silicon Surfer]

It's been shown in the past that against someone of Kryptonian power level will power is drained quite quickly even among the strongest ring wielders so Stewart isn't going to have very long before he has effectively no power left. Possibly only seconds if Bizarro is in the mood to truly unload from the very beginning of the fight. It doesn't take much brainpower to know that if you hit someone really hard they don't like it.

[Genesis 1.0]

So Stewart, who's oen of the most focused Lanterns they've showcased, is strategic about it and needles him at the outset. He knows Bizzaro, he knows his weakness, the primary being his low intelligence and he exploits it to the fullest. He doesn't have to kill him, he's just got to knock him out lon enough to constitute a victory.

Stewart's going to lower the boom on a very dim Bizzaro and then it's lights out.

[greenrage36]

It's been shown in the past that against someone of Kryptonian power level will power is drained quite quickly even among the strongest ring wielders so Stewart isn't going to have very long before he has effectively no power left. Possibly only seconds if Bizarro is in the mood to truly unload from the very beginning of the fight. It doesn't take much brainpower to know that if you hit someone really hard they don't like it.

Very true...and if it were a GL like say Guy Gardener?...I'd go with Bizzaro...GG would just PO Bizzaro instead of going for the quick nighty-night..but I can easily see Stewart understanding his opponent and using his power VERY wisely

[Silicon Surfer]

If Stewart is being at all subtle and strategic that is relatively new. For the first 25 years of his existence he was as far from subtle as a character could get. He was all about raw power at first. That is why Hal had arguments with the Guardians about his ever being given a ring. Still my knowledge of Stewart is even more out of date than about most DC characters since it has been a long time since I have seen more than an isolated scan. I suppose somebody sometime pounded the idea through his thick skull.

[greenrage36]

If Stewart is being at all subtle and strategic that is relatively new. For the first 25 years of his existence he was as far from subtle as a character could get. He was all about raw power at first. That is why Hal had arguments with the Guardians about his ever being given a ring. Still my knowledge of Stewart is even more out of date than about most DC characters since it has been a long time since I have seen more than an isolated scan. I suppose somebody sometime pounded the idea through his thick skull.

Oh yeah..I totally understand where you're coming from on this, but I think if he saw an opponent with the red/blue/cape outfit (even if they are dumb as a freakin' post), he'd play a smarter game, rather than going mano a mano on him, (and possibly wearing the ring out).

I dunno, he might not get a win over him EVERY time, but I can see him winning a higher amount of the matches between the two...

[Genesis 1.0]

Not to mention the fact that you don't have to be THAT subtle with a guy that's basically mentally retarded.

I'm just saying.

[Majic Walrus]

Stewart. Bizarro is dangerous, but he hasn't the finesse it would take to bring down a Lantern. GLs are more than used to dealing with pure brute force.

Agree with this. I think even the ****** GLs could take down Bizzaro.