DC Comics Character Tournament

[Anubis]

Clark has been Nightwing several times.


Even then, several times does not = years of experience.

[CanaryFan]

Booster and Blue take it.

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

ANARKY

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/590709-16_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/16/105-590709/)

VS

BLACK CANARY

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9490/266501-44055-black-canary_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/44055-black-canary/105-266501/)

[Majic Walrus]

Is this the original Anarky at his prime or the new Imposter Anarky that is pictured?

[PemLam]

Canary

[Sparta*]

Dinah

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah if it's th original then he takes it.

New guy? Black Canary

[[A]]

Black Canary.

[Anubis]

I'm gonna say BC either way.

[Majic Walrus]

I agree with what Gen said.

[3dman27]

the bird lady

[CanaryFan]

Is this the original Anarky at his prime or the new Imposter Anarky that is pictured?

I only know the original so I'll go with him.

[Genesis 1.0]

Anarky

[Teth-Adam]

there's a reason she was made chairman of the league
Dinah

[Genesis 1.0]

So....

She's going show him a shiny new plaque and it's Game Over?

[Chunin]

Canary

[CanaryFan]

7-2 canary so far

[Majic Walrus]

I only know the original so I'll go with him.

Anarky. He's got lots of tech and he's highly intelligent add to the fact that he's an accomplished martial artist and I don't really see what Dinah could bring to the table.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

How about he's nowhere near Canary's level in martial arts and she has her canary cry?

Canary wins.

[Harlekin]

Black Canary

[Genesis 1.0]

It always amuses me when people act as if Dinah's Cry is the same as Black Bolt's whispers, it's not even close. Her ability is hardly the end-all be-all or she wouldn't have trouble taking down anyone below Kyrptonian level.

She can be beaten, has been beaten, and to lesser than Anarky.

She rarely ever begins with her Canary Cry and tends to rely on it after her martial arts and agility have failed her, Anarky will have dropped her with one his gadgets before she realizes how much of a threat he is.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

It always amuses me when people act as if Dinah's Cry is the same as Black Bolt's whispers, it's not even close. Her ability is hardly the end-all be-all or she wouldn't have trouble taking down anyone below Kyrptonian level.

She can be beaten, has been beaten, and to lesser than Anarky.

She rarely ever begins with her Canary Cry and tends to rely on it after her martial arts and agility have failed her, Anarky will have dropped her with one his gadgets before she realizes how much of a threat he is.

Nobody ever said her cry was the end all be all but it's a long range weapon that she can use against Anarky when he tries to take her down from a distance. She's not likely to be taken out with anybodies first shot and when someone has the ability to attack from a distance she will use her cry before her martial arts. Also it has been stated a few times that her all out cry can kill at colse range so no it's not Blackbolts voice but it's still more than Anarky can handle

She has been beaten by lessser foes than Anarky but so has Anarky, hell so has Batman for that matter! She has what she needs to beat him and she has alot more experience. She would win this bout.

[Teth-Adam]

dinah will probably already know about anarky, and how to handle him. she has great skills, and experinece in dealing with all sorts of enemies, and if she uses her cry, its going to be even easier for her take him out.

[Anubis]

The Cry never had any influence on my decision to vote for her. It's the fact that she's probably the 5th top fighter in the entire DCU, the Cry would just be cake.

[Majic Walrus]

How about he's nowhere near Canary's level in martial arts and she has her canary cry?

Canary wins.

The first Anarky had a false head that sat above his actual head (to disguise his voice) it also disguised his voice and relayed all audio to him through a headset if I recall. He could just turn off the sound and keep the headset on.

[Genesis 1.0]

Damn Walrus, I thought I was the only one that actually kept up with Anarky.

After her Cry is easily less effective than she expects, which usually follows a physical battle, Anarky's going to have had more than enough opportunities to use that nasty tech.

[WolfCypher]

Black Canary

[GlasgowBat]

the cry can(and has) crushed an onrushing jeep. Anarky has some great tricks, but i don't think he can take out canary before she gets close to him. If she gets close, she'll destroy him. If, however, he proves consistently capable of keeping her away, then the cry will come in and that's the end of it.

Black Canary

[The_Mighty_Thor]

The first Anarky had a false head that sat above his actual head (to disguise his voice) it also disguised his voice and relayed all audio to him through a headset if I recall. He could just turn off the sound and keep the headset on.

Am I the only one who remembers Black Canary dropping the whole Justice League through a head set? He wouldn't know when the sound was coming and turning it off in general would be a huge disadvantage. Plus his suit isn't sound proof. Turning off the head set wouldn't plug his ears and it wouldn't really lessen the cry much at all.

[Majic Walrus]

Damn Walrus, I thought I was the only one that actually kept up with Anarky.

Haha. Very few of us did. He's actually my favorite "anti-Hero" I was so excited when he was on the cover of Robin back during Faces of Evil and so bummed to learn it was just an imposter.

Am I the only one who remembers Black Canary dropping the whole Justice League through a head set? He wouldn't know when the sound was coming and turning it off in general would be a huge disadvantage. Plus his suit isn't sound proof. Turning off the head set wouldn't plug his ears and it wouldn't really lessen the cry much at all.


I also remember reading about how Slade dropped the entire JLA in half a minute, bad writing's bad writing. We're talking about the majority of her experience and style not isolated incidents.

[Genesis 1.0]

I actually tossed FoE into the garbage after discovering that.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Haha. Very few of us did. He's actually my favorite "anti-Hero" I was so excited when he was on the cover of Robin back during Faces of Evil and so bummed to learn it was just an imposter.



I also remember reading about how Slade dropped the entire JLA in half a minute, bad writing's bad writing. We're talking about the majority of her experience and style not isolated incidents.

What are you just making up quotes for people now? I didn't post that.

[SuperFerret]

He knew you were going to post it before you posted it, thus causing a time paradox now that you won't post it.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuperFerret]

See!? Time is already unraveling as we speak! Warlus, you tusked bastard, you've doomed us all!!!

[Anubis]

So that explains why I suddenly have a vagina.

[Genesis 1.0]

No, you were born with that.

I've seen the pictures on Maury.

[CanaryFan]

Black Canary wins 11-3

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

KALIBAK

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13925/296796-40720-kalibak_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/40720-kalibak/105-296796/)

VS

SOLOMON GRUNDY

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/971310-grundy_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/grundy/105-971310/)

[Majic Walrus]

What are you just making up quotes for people now? I didn't post that.

Ooops! I meant to quote this: Am I the only one who remembers Black Canary dropping the whole Justice League through a head set? He wouldn't know when the sound was coming and turning it off in general would be a huge disadvantage. Plus his suit isn't sound proof. Turning off the head set wouldn't plug his ears and it wouldn't really lessen the cry much at all.

Must've just used the wrong quote. My bad.

[Majic Walrus]

On this fight... Isn't Grundy resistant to damn near every kind of energy attack making this a one on one sluggin' match?

Eh I still go with Kalibak he's far more agile and has access to some cool tech.

[Teth-Adam]

Main problem here is that grundy's strength and intellect are always changing, sometimes he can be beaten up by bats, sometimes he tades blows with superman, but kalibak is a warrior, he's always been a warrior, and is very powerfull, so im still going to go with kalibak, no matter what grundy it is, that just determines how long the fight lasts.

kalibak wins

[GlasgowBat]

If this was the JL cartoon grundy then he'd take the fight, but kalibak is just out of comic solomon's class.

stronger, faster, schooled in war pretty much from birth by darkseid of all people.....kalibak is taking this one. A brutal brawl though

[SurfDUI]

Kalibak...easy

[3dman27]

kalibak

[Genesis 1.0]

Easy peasy

Kalibak

[Chunin]

Grundy

[CanaryFan]

6-1 Kalibak

[Silicon Surfer]

Kalibak.

[PemLam]

Kalibak

[Majic Walrus]

Damn I thought that was going to be a flawless victory.

[CanaryFan]

8-1 Kalibak

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

ARGENT

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1953/90868-50798-argent_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/50798-argent/105-90868/)

VS

STARFIRE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13925/298768-113004-starfire_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/113004-starfire/105-298768/)

[PemLam]

If this isn't the "Rock of Ages" Argent, I think Starfire would take it. If it's the future version of Argent, she beats Starfire.

[3dman27]

starfire

[Genesis 1.0]

Argent

[Majic Walrus]

Starfire

[[A]]

Yeah, Starfire.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Argent

[Chunin]

Starfire

[Sparta*]

Starfire

[WolfCypher]

Starfire

[Chunin]

who's Argent

[GlasgowBat]

starfire.

she uses her powers much more effectively, and is fierce as hell in combat

[CanaryFan]

who's Argent

http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/Argent.htm

8-2 Starfire

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, Starfire's fierce and probably one of the more mentally bland Crayons in the box.

[Anubis]

Great rack though.

[Genesis 1.0]

Easy to say when she's always wearing a teardrop bikini like number.

Now Circe, there's a magical rack.

[Anubis]

Totally fake. Her boobs are actually two dwarfs who sodomized one of her pigs long ago.

[Genesis 1.0]

Then it's a very lenient punishment.

[SuperFerret]

That poor pig used to be a senator. :csad:

[Anubis]

Then it's a very lenient punishment.

That poor pig used to be a senator. :csad:

Who said it was a punishment?

[SuperFerret]

Senator Oinks was sodomized by dwarves!

[Genesis 1.0]

Is that what you want? A couple crafty dwarves running around inside your daughter?

[SuperFerret]

I'm not even going to touch that one.

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

GUARDIAN

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/15696/706347-guardian8_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/guardian8/105-706347/)

VS

SHINING KNIGHT
(no flying horse)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3418/120388-77530-shining-knight_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/77530-shining-knight/105-120388/)

[Majic Walrus]

Really the only thing Guardian has going for him is the shield. He's strong and he's fast but I think an swordsman like Shining Knight could make both those a non-issue real quick.

My vote's for the Knight.

[Genesis 1.0]

Without Peg, this match is indeed more even as it cuts out a large portion of Knight's usual advantages and fighting style i.e. the charge and strike. Knight's shown frustration before when his opponents manage to block his thrusts, and Guardian is quite quick and very proficent with that shield.

Oh, he's also got a healing factor, is faster AND stronger.

I'll take the popularity underdog and in this case, better fighter.

Guardian

[PemLam]

Guardian

[CanaryFan]

2-1 Guardian

[[A]]

Who won the previous one..?

Guardian.

[Sparta*]

Shining Knight

[CanaryFan]

;17804733']Who won the previous one..?

Starfire won 8-2

3-2 Guardian

[SuperFerret]

Shining Knight

[GlasgowBat]

i think the guardian, giving his superior strength and speed, will edge this one. Knight is probably the better combatant on a purely skill-based level, but Guardian has the nous and physical advantages he needs.

[CanaryFan]

Guardian wins 4-3

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

NEMESIS

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/818967-soseh_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/soseh/105-818967/)

VS

LIBERTY BELLE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8632/301195-50230-liberty-belle_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/50230-liberty-belle/105-301195/)

[3dman27]

liberty belle

[Sparta*]

Liberty Belle

[[A]]

Liberty Belle.

[GlasgowBat]

ehhh...libery belle. Hardened combatant with the JSA. can't really ask for a bigger edge

[The_Mighty_Thor]

. can't really ask for a bigger edge

Well she is facing someone who can mimic anyones skill instantly so it's really not that big of an edge.

[Anubis]

Skill or power? Cuz just knowing how to fight like some chick from the 40's isn't gonna do her much good if she doesn't have the 40 to 50 ton strength that goes with it.

[Genesis 1.0]

Key.

LB

[Majic Walrus]

LB easy.

[CanaryFan]

Skill or power? Cuz just knowing how to fight like some chick from the 40's isn't gonna do her much good if she doesn't have the 40 to 50 ton strength that goes with it.

She has her own super strength, sped and agility.

http://spider-bob.com/heroes/dc/NemesisII.htm

6-0 Libbey

[PemLam]

Belle

[Sparta*]

i'm always learning about new characters coming to this thread, great job using some really obscure characters BC! It helps people discover new characters

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, gotta give him credit on that.

Been quite a few head scratchers and who the f____ is that momets in this mutha.

[Anubis]

Well that's what you gotta do in these sorta things. Can't have Hal Jordan versus Superman for every match.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

I'm gonna go with Nemisis. I think Libbey would be stronger but not as fast or agile. Nemisis is a highly trained assasin in her own right and then in addition to that she can mimic Libbey's abilities on first contact. that's gotta give her the edge.

[Genesis 1.0]

Sadly that contact will break her face.

She'll be the most talented coma patient.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Nah man, she has super strength of her own and she's faster. She wouldn't get hit with the first blow and could probably take a couple blows as well.

[Anubis]

Yeah, but how much super strength? Can she flip a VW or can she bench a tank?

[CanaryFan]

Liberty Belle wins 8-1

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

VIGILANTE

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3418/121173-143890-vigilante_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/143890-vigilante/105-121173/)

VS

JONAH HEX

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31566/922569-hex_2_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/hex_2/105-922569/)

[[A]]

I am really not that familiar with Vigilante so.. Jonah Hex.

[Anubis]

Jonah Hex. Badass incarnate.

[WolfCypher]

jonah hex

[Silicon Surfer]

Jonah Hex

[Genesis 1.0]

Jonah, he's a Western Two-Face.

Hex

[3dman27]

vig

[Majic Walrus]

Jonah Hex. And I'm pretty sure that if you don't vote for him he'll shoot you.

[Chunin]

Vigilante

[Sparta*]

Hex

[PemLam]

Jonah

[CanaryFan]

8-2 Jonah Hex

[J'adore]

Jonah

[CanaryFan]

Jonah Hex wins 10-2

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

MERCY VS HARLEY QUINN

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/30490/934097-72_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/72/105-934097/)

[Hound55]

Hmm, that could be an interesting bout.

But with no prep-time, no "tricks" mentioned to allow Harley to level the playing field of a straight forward arena bout I"m going to have to go with Mercy.

[WolfCypher]

LOL! Excellent! They both tear each others clothes off fighting, then after fourteen minutes of clawing they each collapse on top of one-another

[SuperFerret]

Mercy's cold, efficient and calculating. Harley's insane, unpredictable and wacky.

I'd say that Mercy takes it in the end :Venom.X's avatar:

[[A]]

LOL! Excellent! They both tear each others clothes off fighting, then after fourteen minutes of clawing they each collapse on top of one-another..and kiss?

[3dman27]

mercy

[J'adore]

Good match up.
Mercy for me.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Harley, She knows karate and carazy!

[J'adore]

Just to be clear.
Is this Amazon Mercy?

[Genesis 1.0]

LOL! Excellent! They both tear each others clothes off fighting, then after fourteen minutes of clawing they each collapse on top of one-another

YES.

Harley:o

[[A]]

Harley Quinn.

[Majic Walrus]

I believe that I am the winner in this fight.

But Harley will probably kill Merci.

[CanaryFan]

4-4 tie

[PemLam]

Mercy

[Silicon Surfer]

Mercy

[Chunin]

Mercy

[CanaryFan]

Ms Graves shows no mercy to Harley Quinn in this 7-4 beat down!

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

HUSH

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/426562-1143_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/1143/105-426562/)

VS

THE QUESTION

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/23995/1003022-question__vic_sage__large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/question__vic_sage_/105-1003022/)

[Majic Walrus]

The Question

[Hound55]

As much as I love The Question Hush would shoot him in the face and finish what Baby Gun couldn't.

One guy armed in what I assume is an arena bout makes all the difference.

That said if you take Hush's guns out of the equation The Question as trained by Richard Dragon would dismantle Hush in all of 5 seconds. But I've no reason to believe Hush would be unarmed anymore than if it were... say... Two-Face.

Or if both were released into a setting skirmish style, that probably evens it up most of all... gives each guy a chance.

But with no stipulations I'll just have to say Hush.

[PemLam]

Hush

[Genesis 1.0]

Yeah, Hush is going to blow the non-face off Question's true face. Kinda uneven to have him start off wih his weapons. Question's a better fighter but that won'tmean much in this one.

Hush

[CanaryFan]

One guy armed in what I assume is an arena bout makes all the difference.
.

I don't know where you guys get this arena stuff from, this isn't "the combat chamber" or whatever that other thread was. As far as I'm concerned all the matches I post take place where ever the characters are likely to meet up in a story. So to me that means that, in a case like this, either the hero figures out the villains next crime and shows up to stop him or he tracks him down to his lair after the fact. So for the sake of argument I'll say Question has tracked Hush down to some warehouse full of crates, barrels, pallets and what ever else that can be used for cover.

For future reference please think of all matches along these lines.

[Majic Walrus]

That's what I'm seeing. In that case it's totally The ?.

[Anubis]

Question, I mean come on man, Hush is just another bad dude with a gun, and not even a very good bad dude with a gun either. :o

[Genesis 1.0]

I don't know where you guys get this arena stuff from, this isn't "the combat chamber" or whatever that other thread was. As far as I'm concerned all the matches I post take place where ever the characters are likely to meet up in a story. So to me that means that, in a case like this, either the hero figures out the villains next crime and shows up to stop him or he tracks him down to his lair after the fact. So for the sake of argument I'll say Question has tracked Hush down to some warehouse full of crates, barrels, pallets and what ever else that can be used for cover.

For future reference please think of all matches along these lines.

Whaba?

Then that means it's an edge to the Hero in every match against a villian if you're saying they've tracked down the bad guy or interrupted a crime.

How's that even fair?:o

[SuperFerret]

Fair? Fair?

You want fair, don't fight, because fighting ain't fair.

[SuperFerret]

Fair? Fair?

You want fair, don't fight, because fighting ain't fair.

[Genesis 1.0]

Meh, skewing the matches in favor of the Faces is lame. :o

[Hound55]

Its also essentially made Batman practically immortal...

I mention this arena stuff because I haven't heard otherwise and I want a consistant, level playing-field for characters. I mention it each time because I like to show the rationale behind the way I'm voting... otherwise the distance between these Fight club threads and the Marvel vs DC thread becomes closer to nil.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Question

[CanaryFan]

Whaba?

Then that means it's an edge to the Hero in every match against a villian if you're saying they've tracked down the bad guy or interrupted a crime.

How's that even fair?:o


Sorry I don't buy that at all. The villain knows who his enemies are. For instance if Joker is running amuck in Gotham he expects Batman, Robin, Nigtwing, Huntress or any other Gotham hero to show up. He'll always have a contingency plan! If Joker was in another city he would be aware of who the hero in that city was. So the hero knows who he's after and the villain knows who to expect. That allows everybody to use their strengths whether it be prep time, brute strength, awesome fighting skill, marksmanship or what have you. Likewise if the villain is tracked to his lair the hero knows who he's going after and the villain doesn't know when he's coming but he knows who might come and it is the villains liar so there could be silent alarms, traps, strategically placed weapons or what ever. Once again it allows both to use their typical strengths.

This is how the fights go down in comics and the villains win their share. In my opinion this makes the fairest fights and an arena stylehttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=17886258&posted=1#) would be the most lopsided or at the very least severely limits who can go against who.

[Genesis 1.0]

That might make sense in your head but not in anywhere outside it. You just said, for the second time that the villain wouldn't know when he's get his improptu visit but he knows what hero works in the area. So you leave quite possibly the most important edge, surprise, to the Hero on every occassion.

As Hound said, this makes Batman nearly inviincible in any match you throw out. Him and a busload of other heroes who make their bread on surprise and surprise shouldn't even be an element in a versus thread seeing as it inevitably gives th edge to one character over another.

Villians win their fair share in comics? Maybe but it's still the Heroes that are favored.

[SuperFerret]

Arena matches are the least realistic of the settings that we could possibly come up with for these things.

[1987olds442]

The Question

[Majic Walrus]

Arena matches are fine but it doesn't have to be a gladiator ring. It could still be a warehouse filled with boxes and crates and stuff.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

That might make sense in your head but not in anywhere outside it. You just said, for the second time that the villain wouldn't know when he's get his improptu visit but he knows what hero works in the area. So you leave quite possibly the most important edge, surprise, to the Hero on every occassion.

He also said there could be silent alarms which could tip off the villain and have him waiting on the hero making surprise the villains tool. It's up to us to vote based on how smart and/or well prepared we think this villain would be.

I find it funny that numerous people give examples of how one character or another could use their surroundings against their opponent and people debate that for pages but tell them it's not an arena bout and they're like WTF? Gen I've heard you give such examples in the past as well as agree or disagree with the ones others have given but I've never seen you or anybody say that these things couldn't happen because it's an arena bout but now all of a sudden you're told it's not an arena bout and you're arguing about it.

As Hound said, this makes Batman nearly inviincible in any match you throw out. Him and a busload of other heroes who make their bread on surprise and surprise shouldn't even be an element in a versus thread seeing as it inevitably gives th edge to one character over another.

Stupidity (on the part of writers and fanboys) is what makes Bats invincible and yet he rarely surprises guys like the Joker, it's usually the other way around.

Villians win their fair share in comics? Maybe but it's still the Heroes that are favored.

Well if the villains won as often as they should the heroes would all be dead and all are books would be over. The point of a vs thread is for us to think for ourselves and decide who should win not who needs to win.

I've never thought of these as arena bouts either but rather than me say these are the stipulations I usually just leave it to the voters to say what they think this character could/would do against that character and let the opposition counter. There are certain match ups that just won't fly with out setting the stage to favor one or the other but I don't want to think up scenarios for every match. Unless I have to I would rather hear the voters takes.

[Genesis 1.0]

Agreed Walrus.

Arena's may be arbitrary but this format is unfair.

[Majic Walrus]

There are too many variables to secret alarms and who knew what was going on and all that jazz. The only thing that there is are two people fighting.

Given a set of normal circumstances who would win. It would not be normal for these guys to be in a ****ing steel cage match together nor would it be fair to assume that one has tracked the other one down.

[Majic Walrus]

Agreed Walrus.

sig'd!

[Hound55]

I find it funny that numerous people give examples of how one character or another could use their surroundings against their opponent and people debate that for pages but tell them it's not an arena bout and they're like WTF? Gen I've heard you give such examples in the past as well as agree or disagree with the ones others have given but I've never seen you or anybody say that these things couldn't happen because it's an arena bout but now all of a sudden you're told it's not an arena bout and you're arguing about it.

At no point have I have been "WTF?" when being told that something is not an arena bout IF THE BOUT ITSELF IS MENTIONED TO NOT BE AN ARENA BOUT.

I have no issue with any match-up being a different circumstance.

BUT...

If I'm not given any stipulations I THEN ASSUME its an arena bout because its the fairest, most balanced scenario.

I'll bust balls with EVERYONE over stipulations. Gen, Canary, whoever... If I get a Moon Knight bout I'll ask when it is... what the phase of the moon is... s*** like that. Because there's no default setting for something like that.

But in terms of fight scenario... There's already a pre-anounced default which I figured people had all agreed to as being fair (mainly because it is).

[Anubis]

I don't believe there ever was. Just two people meet, and fight, and that's it.

[Genesis 1.0]

sig'd!

.....................

..........

F____!! :doh:

[Majic Walrus]

.....................

..........

F____!! :doh:

:heart:

[CanaryFan]

4-4 tie

[Johnny Blaze]

Question

[Chunin]

Question

[Harlekin]

The Question.

[CanaryFan]

7-4 Question

[SurfDUI]

The Question, somehow, and ultimatly dies w/ the victory :csad:.

[Genesis 1.0]

Ya know, that's probably the only way he manages it. :o

[Anubis]

Dude, seriously. It's just f**king Hush. It's not like he's going up against freakin' Black Adam or something.

[Genesis 1.0]

Anubis, I've borne witness to your Hush Hate before.

Just let it go, man. Let it go. :(

[The_Mighty_Thor]

No big deal for Question to beat Hush, Hush sucks!

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

TIMBER WOLF
(no flight ring)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2667/98285-148427-timber-wolf_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/148427-timber-wolf/105-98285/)

VS

KILLER CROC

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36139/784344-killer_croc_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/killer_croc/105-784344/)

[Majic Walrus]

Croc has everything Timberwolf has but he has it twice and he's eaten entire men before.

Croc wins.

[Anubis]

Ohhh, he ate a dude, he's sooooo :awesome:

Timberwolf. Good guy wins.

[Majic Walrus]

Why? 'cause he's good?

[Anubis]

That, he's a better fighter, has a significant healing factor, and has fought far tougher.

[Johnny Blaze]

Good guy wins.

That's such a Croc. :o

[Anubis]

Ohhoho, I see what you did there. ;)

[Johnny Blaze]

:woot:

But in all seriousness, I vote Timberwolf. I think Croc would give him a tough little scrap, but Brin pulls out the victory in the end.

[Majic Walrus]

That, he's a better fighter, has a significant healing factor, and has fought far tougher.

Hey you know who else has a healing factor? Croc.

Hey you know who else has fought far tougher. Croc.

:awesome:

[Silicon Surfer]

Timber Wolf also has super speed. Croc gets skinned.

[Johnny Blaze]

Not to mention flight, thanks to his secret, super-special, decoder ring!

[Anubis]

Hey you know who else has a healing factor? Croc.

Hey you know who else has fought far tougher. Croc.

:awesome:


Like who? F**kin' Batman? Did he beat f**kin batman? I don't recall seeing any comics where Batman got eaten by Green Genes there. I remember him getting his ass handed to him by Wonder Woman once. Robin. Nightwing. One of the batgirls. :confused:

I have however seen Timberwolf take on and beat members of the Wanderers, as well as defeating effin' Ultraboy. All of which would own Croc so hard it's ridiculous. He's faster, smarter, and far more agile. Croc loses so much because he brings nothing to the table besides brute strength and that's always his downfall. Good for fighting random cops and munching on liquor store owners who don't want to pay protection, not so much against a bonafide Superhero.

[Anubis]

Not to mention flight, thanks to his secret, super-special, decoder ring!


Not included in this match.

[Johnny Blaze]

Not included in this match.

Yep, I see that now. :o

Oh well, Brin would still win. Heh, that rhymes. :hehe:

[SurfDUI]

Killer

[Majic Walrus]

Like who? F**kin' Batman? Did he beat f**kin batman? I don't recall seeing any comics where Batman got eaten by Green Genes there. I remember him getting his ass handed to him by Wonder Woman once. Robin. Nightwing. One of the batgirls. :confused:

I have however seen Timberwolf take on and beat members of the Wanderers, as well as defeating effin' Ultraboy. All of which would own Croc so hard it's ridiculous. He's faster, smarter, and far more agile. Croc loses so much because he brings nothing to the table besides brute strength and that's always his downfall. Good for fighting random cops and munching on liquor store owners who don't want to pay protection, not so much against a bonafide Superhero.

The batfamily fares well against Waylon because they know him well and know how to defeat him.

Timberwolf here is basically facing a dumber stronger reptilian version of himself. And what Croc lacks in brains he makes up for in eating your head.

[3dman27]

timber weolf

[3dman27]

timber wolf

[Genesis 1.0]

Like who? F**kin' Batman? Did he beat f**kin batman? I don't recall seeing any comics where Batman got eaten by Green Genes there. I remember him getting his ass handed to him by Wonder Woman once. Robin. Nightwing. One of the batgirls. :confused:

I have however seen Timberwolf take on and beat members of the Wanderers, as well as defeating effin' Ultraboy. All of which would own Croc so hard it's ridiculous. He's faster, smarter, and far more agile. Croc loses so much because he brings nothing to the table besides brute strength and that's always his downfall. Good for fighting random cops and munching on liquor store owners who don't want to pay protection, not so much against a bonafide Superhero.

HA!:awesome:

I'd have to take Wolf as well but not as easily as it's being potrayed.

Timber Wolf

[Hound55]

By my experience in these types of thread people put far too much credence into whether or not a character eats people or not...

Timberwolf.

[X-Woman]

By my experience in these types of thread people put far too much credence into whether or not a character eats people or not...

Timberwolf.

How true, how true.

Timberwolf.

:xmen:

[Sparta*]

ill give Croc a vote...

[Chunin]

Croc

[PemLam]

Croc

[SuperFerret]

By my experience in these types of thread people put far too much credence into whether or not a character eats people or not...

Timberwolf.

Croc, because he eats people. :o

[Majic Walrus]

Thanks SF I knew we were friends. :)

[CanaryFan]

Timberwolf wins 7-6

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

DR. MANHATTAN

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/9116/634021-photo2_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/photo2/105-634021/)

VS

THE SPECTRE
(Corrigan)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13925/296134-136285-spectre_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/136285-spectre/105-296134/)

[SurfDUI]

PFFTT. Timber is like 20 at the oldest he's ever been protrayed.
Killer is a seasoned oldguy, who's probably broken more of Bruce's ribs than anybody over the last 40 years. Such is life.

Dr. Manhattan

[PemLam]

Spectre

[Lobo]

The Spectre

[BrianWilly]

Hmm. I instinctively just want to say the Spectre because that's the obvious choice, but I don't wanna just write Doc Blueballs off 'cause he's really powerful too.

Hmm.

The Spectre I guess.

[BrianWilly]

Hmm. I instinctively just want to say the Spectre because that's the obvious choice, but I don't wanna just write Doc Blueballs off 'cause he's really powerful too.

Hmm.

The Spectre I guess.

[Sparta*]

Great matchup CF!

Manhattan

[X-Woman]

The Spectre. He's got the power of angst on his side.

:xmen:

[Genesis 1.0]

Plenty of power for both of these guys, but I'll give it to....

Manhattan, Dr. Manhattan

[Majic Walrus]

Excellent matchup. I like to think this is one universe bending science versus magic throw down.

Spectre is the most powerful being in the DCU or at least damn near close. The Doc is basically transcending into a higer form of life that would theoretically transcend even the Spectre.

However Spec has been and Doc Blue hasn't.

I said with Manhattan.

[[A]]

Dr Manhattan.

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Spectre

[3dman27]

the SPECTRE

[SuperFerret]

I'm voting for the guy with the decency to wear some damn clothes.

[BrianWilly]

Though not by a whole much more...

[SuperFerret]

Still, I've never seen the Spectre's scrotum, which is more than I can say about Dr. Manhattan.

[Johnny Blaze]

Heh, puts another meaning to the phrase "blue balls", eh?:awesome:

[WolfCypher]

Dr. Manhattan

[Harlekin]

The Spectre.

[Silicon Surfer]

Spectre

[Teth-Adam.]

increadibly hard to judge, nether has ever faced anything like the other, spectre has only ever been beaten with magic, mahatten has never been beaten, but has never faced magic before. i think the key to this fight is what the definition of a win is, would what ozymandyis did to manhatten in antartica count as a win, because spectre is more than capable of that.

I think the fact that manhatten seemingly cant be killed, and the spectre isnt really alive, makes this almost impossible to judge

[PaleRider]

thinking about I have to go with Spectre. Manhattan has master of atoms, I don't think the spectre is made of atoms. Manhattan has shown that he is a conscious being and therefore can be affected by the Spectre.

[Teth-Adam.]

i suppose that since spectre doesnt necessarily have a physical form, mahatten cant really affect him.
The spectre.

[Majic Walrus]

i suppose that since spectre doesnt necessarily have a physical form, mahatten cant really affect him.
The spectre.

Both these guys have the ability to manipulate their physical form.

[Genesis 1.0]

:o

Wow. Just wow.

[Teth-Adam.]

spectres abilities go beyond the physical world, he can hurt manhatten in other ways, doc has shown no such capabilies.

[Majic Walrus]

Manhattan has shown the ability to exist concurrently through all time. Also he has a big blue penis. Real men don't need green underoos. :p

[Genesis 1.0]

Heh, Manhattan can deal no damage.

:o

[Anubis]

Neither can the Spectre. We are at an impasse. Unmovable force meets unstoppable object. Draw.

But, then again. Manhattan has been in one story. Therefore his power is far more consistent than that of Spectre, who has been in many stories. Where he's shown himself to be everything from third most powerful being in the universe, to getting kicked in the mouth by f**king Batman.

[WolfCypher]

Well, since he is Batman...:o

[GlasgowBat]

maybe he had prep time?

but yeah, looks like they negate each other. Unless.......when ozy does that thing, and sort-of blows manhattan up by luring him into the machine; although he returns moments later as a *****ing giant guy, would this count as a loss? like lobo having to regrow his body counts? cos if so, i'd say the spectre could possibly pull something like that off if some machine could.

but that's weak, and can only be counted if we can't have a draw

[Anubis]

He didn't die. His particles were just scattered and he put himself back together. I guess it depends on how long it takes him to reform. I'd say anything longer than five minutes counts as a win.

[CanaryFan]

Spectre wins 11-6

[CanaryFan]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/0000banner.jpg

FIREHAWK VS KILLER FROST

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/m-col/DC%20Tourney/zzzFirehawk01.jpg

[[A]]

Killer Frost.

[SurfDUI]

Frost for all her power gets fooled and tricked easy. She froze a city on the East Coast unless Ronnie brought her Burt Renyolds, the ***** is crazy.


Firehawk

[Genesis 1.0]

Crazy works for me.

Killer Frost

[CanaryFan]

2-1 killer frost so far

[Anubis]

Firehawk. Good guy always finds a way.

[Silicon Surfer]

Killer Frost

[WolfCypher]

Killer Frost.

[Majic Walrus]

Awesome picture and fight.

I side with Firehawk.

[WolfCypher]

Does Killer Frost even care that the Firestorm she currently hates isn't the same Firestorm she used to obsess over?

[3dman27]

firehawk

[BrianWilly]

Killer Frost. She's taken on some big guns and put up a good fight.

And what's Firehawk's record, after all? ****ing Elongated Man thought she was junior league.

[PemLam]

Firehawk

[The_Mighty_Thor]

Killer Frost

[Chunin]

Killer Frost

[Sparta*]

Killer Frost

[Harlekin]

Killer Frost.

[CanaryFan]

Killer Frost wins 8-6