Bane

[B.A. Baracus]

"Hey mum look at me, I'm going to blow up a hospital, slash people's mouths open with a knife, and poison your liquor because I don't like your stinkin rules."

*mother runs away screaming as child chases her with kitchen knife*

"C'mon mom, let's put a smile on that face"

:dry:

You really can't see the difference between a man blowing up a hospital and getting a Syringe and injecting it into his arm, in what essentially is a family movie? tell me in the Hospital explosion how many people did you see graphically die? actually throughout the whole movie? the censorship of a film where a man injects himself will bump it up to a 15 (in the UK atleast) Warners wont allow that. You're being incredibly naive if you think they will.

[terry78]

Haha, and I won't front, I have actually heard about a kid from one of my little cousins that tried to do the "pencil trick" on someone.

[PreK]

I was going to go on a rant, but looks like you guys have covered the topic of violence and influence on children. :up:

Following the havoc Joker caused and some of the ruthless acts he committed, there is very little they could do to top that. Any drug use is child's play in comparison.

[B.A. Baracus]

The Batman series is PG-13. A character who injects himself in the movie will not cause it to get a R rating. I know this because Rocky IV had a similar scene almost 25 years ago.

Exactly. Censorship has changed a heck of alot in that time.

There is a difference. Believe it or not, it's the "smaller" dangerous acts that censors go after. A kid can't easily replicate blowing up a hospital. But sticking a syringe in his arm?

It's called imitable acts.

:up:

[ALP]

There is a difference. Believe it or not, it's the "smaller" dangerous acts that censors go after. A kid can't easily replicate blowing up a hospital. But sticking a syringe in his arm?

It's called imitable acts.

Or that kid in first grade that you don't like...just stab him in the neck with your pencil...and I'd say sharp pencils are even easier to come by than a syringe with illegal juice in it:yay:

[B.A. Baracus]

Or that kid in first grade that you don't like...just stab him in the neck with your pencil...and I'd say sharp pencils are even easier to come by than a syringe with illegal juice in it:yay:

:dry:

[raybia]

There is a difference. Believe it or not, it's the "smaller" dangerous acts that censors go after. A kid can't easily replicate blowing up a hospital. But sticking a syringe in his arm?

It's called imitable acts.

Yeah, JJ Abrams Star Trek had at least 4 imitable acts in it.

[raybia]

Exactly. Censorship has changed a heck of alot in that time.



:up:

You are right. Rocky IV was rated PG as there was no PG-13 then.

[Paste Pot Pete]

Nolan should've cast Jared Leto if he wanted to remake Requiem for a Dream.

[the Wankstar]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

[Paste Pot Pete]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

Not gritty enough. :cmad:

[the Wankstar]

ehh if he did it like an adrenaline shot into his chest

[raybia]

You really can't see the difference between a man blowing up a hospital and getting a Syringe and injecting it into his arm, in what essentially is a family movie? tell me in the Hospital explosion how many people did you see graphically die? actually throughout the whole movie? the censorship of a film where a man injects himself will bump it up to a 15 (in the UK atleast) Warners wont allow that. You're being incredibly naive if you think they will.

Its not about what WB will allow, it what the MPAA will. If WB and Nolan want a PG-13 rating then here are the rules:


Drugs and Violence

Prior to 1984, a film that depicted any drug use at all was given an R rating.

Since the PG-13 rating was adopted, drug use featured in a motion picture requires at least a PG-13 rating. Drug abuse calls for an R rating.

Additionally, a PG-13 movie may have some violence, as long as the violence is neither "persistent" nor "realistic and extreme."

[ALP]

And least we not forget the headlines when a teenager burned down his school dressed as Heath's Joker (in regard to Paste Pot saying a kid cant replicate blowing up a building).

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/joker-set-fire-to-old-school-in-revenge-on-hypocrite-staff-2273186.html
http://io9.com/5598096/teen-dressed-as-the-joker-burns-down-his-high-school-in-ireland

[Paste Pot Pete]

ehh if he did it like an adrenaline shot into his chest

Was just kidding, friend. I think that's a fine idea, much better than a syringe.

I still see no reason not to use the tubes.

[PreK]

Nolan should've cast Jared Leto if he wanted to remake Requiem for a Dream.
Because he's a druggie? Are we all not on the same page that Bane was exactly that when he got on Venom? I'm not understanding why the method of application is so highly debated here. Whichever is chosen, it won't change that he's addicted to a drug. You can try to mask that by making it more kid-friendly and use a dial with big ON and OFF labels -- doesn't change anything.

No one is denying the mature nature of drugs. But serial killing is just as serious, and I bet no one here would be in favor of watering down Joker because of "the kids".

[LuisTX85]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

True,But I doubt Nolan would want to use the same method again or something.

[raybia]

why wouldnt he just use one of those auto injectors like Gordon used against the fear toxin in Begins

If Nolan want his Bane to use Vemon in this movie, there is nothing stopping him for doing so. He could easily establish this without losing the PG-13 rating.

[raybia]

Because he's a druggie? Are we all not on the same page that Bane was exactly that when he got on Venom? I'm not understanding why the method of application is so highly debated here. Whichever is chosen, it won't change that he's addicted to a drug. You can try to mask that by making it more kid-friendly and use a dial with big ON and OFF labels -- doesn't change anything.

No one is denying the mature nature of drugs. But serial killing is just as serious, and I bet no one here would be in favor of watering down Joker because of "the kids".

Winner

[the Wankstar]

wonder if his venom will end up being some sort of variation on the fear toxin from Begins too. never underestimate the power of Liams Blue Flowers

[RustyCage]

Winner

Seconded. :up:

[Bruce Malone]

They can easily depict bane injecting himself but with showing the actual action to the side of the camera ala joker and bishop i believe when he went to carve his face.

[Paste Pot Pete]

Because he's a druggie? Are we all not on the same page that Bane was exactly that when he got on Venom? I'm not understanding why the method of application is so highly debated here. Whichever is chosen, it won't change that he's addicted to a drug. You can try to mask that by making it more kid-friendly and use a dial with big ON and OFF labels -- doesn't change anything.

No one is denying the mature nature of drugs. But serial killing is just as serious, and I bet no one here would be in favor of watering down Joker because of "the kids".

Dude, I'm just taking the piss.

Bane could eat a baby onscreen for all I care. I don't have any kids.

I entered the convo as a devil's advocate, explaining what I have come to know of censorship and what is and isn't deemed acceptable. Those aren't MY standards. I couldn't give a crap.

I happen to think the syringe is a retarded idea for completely unrelated reasons, not the least of which is that I see no reason to deviate from the method used in the comics, and the fact that he often juices up mid-battle, so it'd be quite inconvenient to stop & shoot up a needle.

[LuisTX85]

maybe Nolan will surprise us by using venon&tubes after all!?!?.....I just think he would make them thinner and less visible though(maybe hidden under armor or shirt or something).

[ALP]

Dude, I'm just taking the piss.

Bane could eat a baby onscreen for all I care. I don't have any kids.

I entered the convo as a devil's advocate, explaining what I have come to know of censorship and what is and isn't deemed acceptable. Those aren't MY standards. I couldn't give a crap.

I happen to think the syringe is a retarded idea for completely unrelated reasons, not the least of which is that I see no reason to deviate from the method used in the comics, and the fact that he often juices up mid-battle, so it'd be quite inconvenient to stop & shoot up a needle.

For the most part I quite agree, I would prefer the venom used through the usual tubes. But a big consensus seems to be that if Bane has tubes, Batman could easily just cut them while fighting him. In fact, as tactical as Batman is that would be his very first move.

[comiskeybum]

What are the chances we will see Bane break batman's back in this film? and if Bane broke batman's back in the comic books and he was a parapalegic, how did he come back in later comic books? did he discover new medical technology or what?

[terry78]

For the most part I quite agree, I would prefer the venom used through the usual tubes. But a big consensus seems to be that if Bane has tubes, Batman could easily just cut them while fighting him. In fact, as tactical as Batman is that would be his very first move.

Not if Bane is faster.

[Paste Pot Pete]

For the most part I quite agree, I would prefer the venom used through the usual tubes. But a big consensus seems to be that if Bane has tubes, Batman could easily just cut them while fighting him. In fact, as tactical as Batman is that would be his very first move.

Hide them.

Or, if you're okay with a syringe, then you must be okay with the Venom not going into his brain at all, just into his arm. That cuts out the tubes entirely, and he can still have an automatic delivery device conviently attached right to his arm.

Fair compromise? :yay:

[raybia]

For the most part I quite agree, I would prefer the venom used through the usual tubes. But a big consensus seems to be that if Bane has tubes, Batman could easily just cut them while fighting him. In fact, as tactical as Batman is that would be his very first move.

Even in the comics I always saw that as a glaring weakness or disadvantage and its for that reason I would rather if vemon was not used by Bane in this movie. Let Bane just be a potential superior opponent to Batman.

[LuisTX85]

What are the chances we will see Bane break batman's back in this film? and if Bane broke batman's back in the comic books and he was a parapalegic, how did he come back in later comic books? did he discover new medical technology or what?

Pretty slim chance I would say!(although Nolan has said that he wants to end this as a trilogy and a way that there can't really be a sequel.....something like that).

Bruce had a friend(Jean-Paul Valley)and he replaced Bruce as Batman for a few months!,Bruce healed some how(forgot how)and became Batman again after not really liking how his friend did things.

[PreK]

I happen to think the syringe is a retarded idea for completely unrelated reasons, not the least of which is that I see no reason to deviate from the method used in the comics, and the fact that he often juices up mid-battle, so it'd be quite inconvenient to stop & shoot up a needle.
It's also inconvenient for him to have his main source of power flailing around in the open with no way of protecting it. Just as inconvenient for Bats to incapacitate anyone with an 8 foot blanket to drag around. Minor flaws are inescapable. A clever filmmaker should be able to manage it so it isn't so obvious to the viewer.

If Nolan can make it so the tubes aren't so easily severed, fine. As is I've always found it to be a glaring fault in design.

[comiskeybum]

Pretty slim chance I would say!(although Nolan has said that he wants to end this as a trilogy and a way that there can't really be a sequel.....something like that).

Bruce had a friend and he replaced Bruce as Batman for a few months!,Bruce got better some how(forgot how)and became Batman again after not liking how his friend did things.

cool.

How's this for the ending of the movie? Bane breaks batman's back, but Bane does not know that batman cut his tubes to his brain at the same time. Both men fall to the ground......Bane dies.........fade to black........we then see an image of Bruce Wayne in a wheel chair and Alfred is closing down the batcave for good. Fade to black............and thus the trilogy ends. Bane is dead, gotham is safe, however batman is done as well.

Batman ironicly pays for breaking his golden rule in that he wont kill. But he had to kill Bane but Bane broke his back for his trouble. haha

i think it could work

[Majik1387]

Like I said to someone's concept drawing of Bane, put the tubes closer to his arm instead of flailing about.

[LuisTX85]

cool.

How's this for the ending of the movie? Bane breaks batman's back, but Bane does not know that batman cut his tubes to his brain at the same time. Both men fall to the ground......Bane dies.........fade to black........we then see an image of Bruce Wayne in a wheel chair and Alfred is closing down the batcave for good. Fade to black............and thus the trilogy ends. Bane is dead, gotham is safe, however batman is done as well.

Batman ironicly pays for breaking his golden rule in that he wont kill. But he had to kill Bane but Bane broke his back for his trouble. haha

i think it could work

.....Maybe!

[raybia]

Here is one possible look for Bane that I personally like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf9ATTpft-I


And for fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13H_4XOFn28&feature=related

[Anchor_Content]

My bets are that Bane is the mastermind behind a massive supply of Venom into Gotham. The League of Shadows is funding the Venom supply. Bane essentially takes over the Gothan underworld and plays a massive game of wits and dueling strategies against Batman.

There is no way we'll see the "tubes" or "Mexican wrestling mask" in Nolan's version. We'll only see Bane souped up on Venom once, maybe twice in the film, and it'll be via needle, not tube.

[terry78]

In all honesty the tube should be concealed for the most part so that Batman doesn't even know how he's this physically strong until he puts it together later in the film.

[comiskeybum]

.....Maybe!


and yanno really that does not really close the book on the franchise because another director could use the story from dark knight rises and in the next movie we see Bruce Wayne's friend take over as the new batman just like in the comic books.

[-Arya-]

In all honesty the tube should be concealed for the most part so that Batman doesn't even know how he's this physically strong until he puts it together later in the film.
Not a bad idea actually...

[Anchor_Content]

No way. Too bleak. And where's the "Rises" element? We have to remember the redemption theme. Somehow, Gotham wakes up to the fact that Batman has been saving its ass over three films and comes to his rescue.

Not sure how Bane dies -- except by Venom overdose. Or maybe it makes him catatonic. Not every major villain has to die.

.....Maybe!

[elgato]

Never cared much for Bane, but Tom Hardy's hotness is definately getting me excited of that.

[comiskeybum]

Lets just hope that Tom Hardy is a better villain in this movie than he was in "Star Trek: Nemesis"

[RustyCage]

Never cared much for Bane, but Tom Hardy's hotness is definately getting me excited of that.

It took this post to make me finally understand your username. :funny: Dunno why that didn't click before.

[flickchick85]

Lets just hope that Tom Hardy is a better villain in this movie than he was in "Star Trek: Nemesis"
Never seen it, but considering his work since then, I'd say that's pretty much a guarantee.

[ALP]

What are the chances we will see Bane break batman's back in this film? and if Bane broke batman's back in the comic books and he was a parapalegic, how did he come back in later comic books? did he discover new medical technology or what?

I'm pretty sure Bruce just healed naturally over time for the most part. It took him a while though. If I recall correctly the wrestler Kurt angle broke his neck participating in the olympics but later healed pretty well. And I also recently heard about a football player whose back was broken on the field. I think he's able to walk now though. So severe injures like that are possible to heal from in some circumstances.

And Bruce also had an incredible training program by being mentored by Lady Shiva. But in the films, I simply don't see it happening at all. It would take too long for Bale's Batman to heal, no way can they end the movie with Batman breaking his back(thus no conclusion since this is Nolan's last movie). And mostly, one of the most important parts about Knightfall is that Batman was very far into his career when he was 'broken.' By the time TDKR starts he will have been Batman for what? One or two years? It just won't have the same impact if he breaks his back and loses everything this early in his career.

Hide them.

Or, if you're okay with a syringe, then you must be okay with the Venom not going into his brain at all, just into his arm. That cuts out the tubes entirely, and he can still have an automatic delivery device conviently attached right to his arm.

Fair compromise? :yay:

:up:

[MILPERSMAN]

I could see Batman turning knight fall 180 after recovering injuries from Bane’s beat down. For example he taunts Bane and set false alarms witch make bane inject the venom more than what is healthy. Bane’s body will build a Torrance from the venom making him in a disadvantage. Feeling ill like a cocaine addict going cold turkey. The Batman rises and gets his redemption.

Thats a lot better than Batman cuting Bane's tubes.


What are good Bane storys? I only read Knightfall and No Mans land

[Paste Pot Pete]

What are good Bane storys? I only read Knightfall and No Mans land

Vengeance of Bane I & II are a must.

Bane of the Demon & Legacy are good if you can get your hands on them.

Two arcs in Gotham Knights where he teams up with Batman.

And Secret Six.

[MILPERSMAN]

Hide them.

Or, if you're okay with a syringe, then you must be okay with the Venom not going into his brain at all, just into his arm. That cuts out the tubes entirely, and he can still have an automatic delivery device conviently attached right to his arm.

Fair compromise? :yay:

Um………………….. An injection to the blood stream goes directly to the brain. It’s the fastest way to absorb. I don’t think you can Literally inject anything to the brain lol

[Saint]

The problem with Bane having tubes is that it's really sort of preposterous. They drilled holes in the back of his head to put them there. It's crazy. Obviously whether or not it seems absurd is all in the execution, but I'm not going to be bothered if they go a different route.

As for the syringe thing, fortunately we can see injections without actually using syringes. Check out the handheld injectors the fear gas antidote is administered with in Batman Begins. Gordon jabs himself in the leg with one. Doesn't look like somebody shooting up or anything like that, so I imagine no overzealous censor is going to get his panties in a bunch.

[Dark Knight]

The critique of the tubes was definitely valid. also for those who don't know this was by Tony Moore for the new Venom series, I just, very crudely I may add, turned it into what I expect Nolan to do with Bane.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j324/WakeDaveBad/Banev2.jpg




This is nice.

A Bane/Deadshot hybrid.

I would open the up the mouth area of the mask however.

[LuisTX85]

In all honesty the tube should be concealed for the most part so that Batman doesn't even know how he's this physically strong until he puts it together later in the film.

YUP!,Batman is the"world's best detective",so in the movie he should at least be Gotham's best......He should be able to put together about Bane's weakness&and how to bring him down,same with finding out Selina is Catwoman..All by mid-film!

[catwitch]

Your stupid if you think Nolan will use a man injecting himself in a batman film, and are clearly forgetting the fact that alot of children will be seeing this.

are those tube in incepion just sticky taped to the peoples arms then? 'coz here i was thinking they had needles on them that were stuck in there arms, oh my, silly me.

fantasy/si-fi tv shows & movies have shown people ingecting themselves all the time, they just don’t use realistic looking syringes, rather little metal guns with a vile attached to the top. Smallville does so every other week.

[MILPERSMAN]

I happen to think the syringe is a retarded idea for completely unrelated reasons, not the least of which is that I see no reason to deviate from the method used in the comics, and the fact that he often juices up mid-battle, so it'd be quite inconvenient to stop & shoot up a needle.


TGr8BBeAOa8&f

The syringe work fine in Metel Gear Solid 4

[catwitch]

Bane is technically half white and half latino, and most moviemakers usually take liberties when the character's origin is biracial like that.


I've been trying to tell people that his father is english, however I think it strange that Americans seem to be the only people in the world that don't consider Latino people to be white, rather a separate race, no one else does that.

[Xtroid]

And for fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13H_4XOFn28&feature=related

Man Bane looks like a gimp in the revamped show.

[Violet Lantern]

I've been trying to tell people that his father is english, however I think it strange that Americans seem to be the only people in the world that don't consider Latino people to be white, rather a separate race, no one else does that.

Part of our unfortunate "One Drop Rule" history in our race relations. If you're even a little non-white, you're not white. Period. :o

[PreK]

Man Bane looks like a gimp in the revamped show.
Not nearly as much as his stint on TNBA:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o81/logmatt/Toons/TNBA/TNBAheaderBane-1.jpg

I was watching all the Bane episodes in the Timmverse, and couldn't believe the atrocious redesign. As a kid it was fairly cool, but as an adult with a tainted mind it just looked creepy. :(

[RachelDawes]

cool.

How's this for the ending of the movie? Bane breaks batman's back, but Bane does not know that batman cut his tubes to his brain at the same time. Both men fall to the ground......Bane dies.........fade to black........we then see an image of Bruce Wayne in a wheel chair and Alfred is closing down the batcave for good. Fade to black............and thus the trilogy ends. Bane is dead, gotham is safe, however batman is done as well.

Batman ironicly pays for breaking his golden rule in that he wont kill. But he had to kill Bane but Bane broke his back for his trouble. haha

i think it could work

It's too early in his career, and Batman hasn't even tangled with all his villains yet. No way he'll be done after this movie.

[RachelDawes]

I've been trying to tell people that his father is english, however I think it strange that Americans seem to be the only people in the world that don't consider Latino people to be white, rather a separate race, no one else does that.

Even black and indigenous Latinos?

[MILPERSMAN]

Don’t intravenous tubes need to be filled with liquid before inserting them into the body?
Air injected to the blood stream will kill one. Don’t you guys think it’s too much of a hassle with the tubes? I can really see an auto injector syringe to the neck in Nolan’s interpretation of Bane

[Mr. Earle]

TGr8BBeAOa8&f

The syringe work fine in Metel Gear Solid 4
What is in the syringe? Also, is that Revolver Ocelot and Snake's father (or it the guy he was cloned after)?

[Saint]

It's Ocelot and Snake (Snake ages prematurely... I forget why; something about being a clone).

[MILPERSMAN]

What is in the syringe? Also, is that Revolver Ocelot and Snake's father (or it the guy he was cloned after)?

I think it's nanomachines that releases adrenaline similar to Bane's Venom.

That is Old Snake aka Solid Snake

[Mr. Earle]

Thanks a lot Saint.

As for the topic at hand i dont really care how Bane gets the venom. I guess the tubes are cool but be it tubes or injections or whatever, it is highly likely that the final fight will revolve around the cliche of Batman preventing him from getting his next dose, or overloading him with Venom.

So whatever the case i just hope that Bane stays in a size comparable to Batman's so that we can see some good fights rather than Batman vs a huge Bane (Hulk/Judgernaut dimensions) trying to stay alive and finally win via some deus ex machina, cutting his venom tubes, Pepper overloading the arc reactor, etc.

[Mr. Earle]

I think it's nanomachines that releases adrenaline similar to Bane's Venom.

That is Old Snake aka Solid Snake
I've only played the PS2 games and only know about Solid and Liquid. I bet there are a whole bunch of Snakes arent there?

[The Joker]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29942/875313-banesmen_super.jpg


I'd love to see Bird, Zombie, and Trogg in TDKR.

[Sawyer]

Not nearly as much as his stint on TNBA:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o81/logmatt/Toons/TNBA/TNBAheaderBane-1.jpg

I was watching all the Bane episodes in the Timmverse, and couldn't believe the atrocious redesign. As a kid it was fairly cool, but as an adult with a tainted mind it just looked creepy. :(

Yeah, I liked the BTAS design alot more.

[RustyCage]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29942/875313-banesmen_super.jpg


I'd love to see Bird, Zombie, and Trogg in TDKR.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lmH1dyxL7c8/TDzRBkiUnOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/h1QAL4mYbf0/s320/weller.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Gibbs300px.PNG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SZ1HGpUMS6I/AAAAAAAAEMo/MPTev4jTjvs/s320/sean.jpg

Gotcha covered. :awesome:

(Peter Weller, Kevin McNally, Sean Bean)

[Saint]

Peter Weller should be in every movie.


...as Robocop.

[RustyCage]

Peter Weller should be in every movie.


...as Robocop.

Yes. :funny:

Though, I was thinking ..Mr. Freeze. :ninja:

[craigdbfan]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lmH1dyxL7c8/TDzRBkiUnOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/h1QAL4mYbf0/s320/weller.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Gibbs300px.PNG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SZ1HGpUMS6I/AAAAAAAAEMo/MPTev4jTjvs/s320/sean.jpg

Gotcha covered. :awesome:

(Peter Weller, Kevin McNally, Sean Bean)

Holy ****. Thats some of the most spot on fan casting I've ever seen suggested.

Nice job. All those actors are top notch. I'd love to see them in a Nolan film especially a Batman one at that.

Peter Weller should be in every movie.


...as Robocop.

Absolutely. :word:

[catwitch]

Even black and indigenous Latinos?

thats sort of my point, though maybe not worded the best 'coz i didn't want to go into it to much,your right. Latino people can come from many different back grounds including Caucasian, but the automatic assumption of spliting people between white from latino is something that no one I know in my country seems to understand. I'm not saying we don't have a problem with racism here, nor am I saying that this necessarily has racist motivation, what I am saying that there seems to be a need to pigeon hole a label people in the USA on a level that I just don’t understand. Please don’t think I’m trying to put the USA down ‘coz it's not my intent, besides Australia has its own poor history of segregating other human beings, I’m just sharing my confusion on a subject that much too big & inappropriate to really get into & discuss on these boards.

[LuisTX85]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lmH1dyxL7c8/TDzRBkiUnOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/h1QAL4mYbf0/s320/weller.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Gibbs300px.PNG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SZ1HGpUMS6I/AAAAAAAAEMo/MPTev4jTjvs/s320/sean.jpg

Gotcha covered. :awesome:

(Peter Weller, Kevin McNally, Sean Bean)

That is indeed awesome!,lol

[catwitch]

Part of our unfortunate "One Drop Rule" history in our race relations. If you're even a little non-white, you're not white. Period. :o

I find that very sad. I was in a shop on time, I knew the owner and he ask one of his employees where she was from and she replied "Australia" & he then said something about originally she said her family came from India. He then asked me and I assume he also meant “originally”, so I said I was Irish. Then asked how long I’d been here, so I replied I was born here. He them proceeded to have ago at me “what’s wrong you’re not proud to be a Aussie?” In his eyes I was Aussie ‘cos I’m Caucasian & she wasn’t ‘coz she’s not. We aren’t immune to such close minded thinking, but I beleive that type of thinking is on the way out.

[Gianakin_]

Gotcha covered. :awesome:

(Peter Weller, Kevin McNally, Sean Bean)

Fantastic casting... except for Sean Bean. Not because he's a bad choice, but because I'm tired of seeing such a wonderful actor play the bad guy or the punk (not in the literal sense), and for such a small part.

[Slushy]

gotcha covered.

Sean Bean FTW!

[The Joker]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lmH1dyxL7c8/TDzRBkiUnOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/h1QAL4mYbf0/s320/weller.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Gibbs300px.PNG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SZ1HGpUMS6I/AAAAAAAAEMo/MPTev4jTjvs/s320/sean.jpg

Gotcha covered. :awesome:

(Peter Weller, Kevin McNally, Sean Bean)

Awesome suggestions, man. Seriously wow, did you just come up with them on the spot?

[the Wankstar]

The critique of the tubes was definitely valid. also for those who don't know this was by Tony Moore for the new Venom series, I just, very crudely I may add, turned it into what I expect Nolan to do with Bane.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j324/WakeDaveBad/Banev2.jpg

i really hope he ends up looking something like this in the movie

[CJ]

When I first heard news about Bane, I grimaced. Bane? Seriously? You're going to end the series with him of all characters?

But then I thought about it: In Batman Begins, Bruce first started out as Batman. He made his share of mistakes, but in the end, became a positive force in Gotham, though still not fully in the "Batman" mental state yet.

In The Dark Knight, that's when everything fell apart. Batman lost everything and realized that being Batman is only opening the doors to freaks like The Joker. In a way, he himself was to blame for some of the deaths. Batman underestimated The Joker, causing him to lose Rachel, and just barely subdue him enough for the cops to arrest him in the end. By the end of the film, he was a wanted man, who had lost everything, with the fate of Gothnam in jeopardy now that a true hero who operates within the law, (Dent) is gone.

Now we have a Batman who's struggling. and a city that is rotting. He doesn't have that drive to be Batman anymore. He's doubting himself. He's tormented by the grief of losing Rachel. He's doubting his whole mission, but he's still somehow trying carrying on as Batman, then Bane comes and he's straw that breaks the camel's (or in this case, Bats) back.

Heavily injured, Batman goes to asia and does a whole lot of soul-searching, and remembers why he became Batman in the first place. He remembers his parents, who did so much good for Gotham, Rachel believing in him and his mission, and after some more training and physical therapy returns to Gotham to face Bane once more, evade the Gotham Police force and become the "true" Batman we all know from the cartoons and comics.

Bane is actually a perfect choice when you think about it. I know i've said a lot of crap about Hathaway, but i'm still going to see this, this will be epic.

[Wolverine1988]

When I first heard news about Bane, I grimaced. Bane? Seriously? You're going to end the series with him of all characters?

But then I thought about it: In Batman Begins, Bruce first started out as Batman. He made his share of mistakes, but in the end, became a positive force in Gotham, though still not fully in the "Batman" mental state yet.

In The Dark Knight, that's when everything fell apart. Batman lost everything and realized that being Batman is only opening the doors to freaks like The Joker. In a way, he himself was to blame for some of the deaths. Batman underestimated The Joker, causing him to lose Rachel, and just barely subdue him enough for the cops to arrest him in the end. By the end of the film, he was a wanted man, who had lost everything, with the fate of Gothnam in jeopardy now that a true hero who operates within the law, (Dent) is gone.

Now we have a Batman who's struggling. and a city that is rotting. He doesn't have that drive to be Batman anymore. He's doubting himself. He's tormented by the grief of losing Rachel. He's doubting his whole mission, but he's still somehow trying carrying on as Batman, then Bane comes and he's straw that breaks the camel's (or in this case, Bats) back.

Heavily injured, Batman goes to asia and does a whole lot of soul-searching, and remembers why he became Batman in the first place. He remembers his parents, who did so much good for Gotham, Rachel believing in him and his mission, and after some more training and physical therapy returns to Gotham to face Bane once more, evade the Gotham Police force and become the "true" Batman we all know from the cartoons and comics.

Bane is actually a perfect choice when you think about it. I know i've said a lot of crap about Hathaway, but i'm still going to see this, this will be epic.


That would be pretty sweet if it went down like that and would definetley make alot of sense if it went down like that

[Secret Fawful]

The critique of the tubes was definitely valid. also for those who don't know this was by Tony Moore for the new Venom series, I just, very crudely I may add, turned it into what I expect Nolan to do with Bane.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j324/WakeDaveBad/Banev2.jpg
If that was what Nolan went with, he might as well have called him Deathstroke. Because seriously, add some copper to that suit, and he looks like nothing more than a Slade re-design.

[Paste Pot Pete]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lmH1dyxL7c8/TDzRBkiUnOI/AAAAAAAAAEo/h1QAL4mYbf0/s320/weller.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Gibbs300px.PNG
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SZ1HGpUMS6I/AAAAAAAAEMo/MPTev4jTjvs/s320/sean.jpg

Gotcha covered. :awesome:

(Peter Weller, Kevin McNally, Sean Bean)


:bow: Bravo, sir.

[MaceB]

I guess where that becomes problematic for me is the second act, going to Asia and rehabilitating. I don't want a second act without Batman... I don't want a Rocky training montage. Without seeing it yet, it sounds so cliche.

[Gianakin_]

Come to think of it, Weller did play a Zombie-type character in Dexter Season 5.

[RustyCage]

Awesome suggestions, man. Seriously wow, did you just come up with them on the spot?

Yeah! :funny: The visual likenesses just screamed at me as soon as I saw your post.

Fantastic casting... except for Sean Bean. Not because he's a bad choice, but because I'm tired of seeing such a wonderful actor play the bad guy or the punk (not in the literal sense), and for such a small part.

Oh, of course. I'd rather all of them have much bigger, more respectable roles. Just thought they were good lookalikes.

I adore Sean Bean in Equilibrium. :up: :up:

[The Red Hood]

That's not really fair. Bane was created, Just like Doomsday, to be nothing more than a brute force to break the superhero. It was only after that that comic book writers went back and added any sort of depth to the characters, and hell, even Doomsday nowadays has more going on for him than just "the thing that can kill Superman." Just because someone has retconned a story onto a character like Bane doesn't mean he's any better a character now.

In case someone hasn't already pointed this out, you're wrong.

There was no retcon with Bane. "Vengeance of Bane" introduced a character who trained his body AND his mind to the peak of human perfection.

This story preceded "Knightfall" and established that Bane was more than just a strong guy.

Most fans who were in diapers when these stories were released or who are too lazy to do some research will arrive to such ridiculous conclusions as yours.

Hood

[The Red Hood]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3078/baneorigin.jpg

[Gianakin_]

Oh, of course. I'd rather all of them have much bigger, more respectable roles. Just thought they were good lookalikes.


Oh, no, your choices were 100% spot on!:up:

[Mr. Earle]

Just popping in to say that Sean Bean is awesome. I would watch a film where he and Liam Neeson play every role.

[Gianakin_]

Just popping in to say that Sean Bean is awesome. I would watch a film where he and Liam Neeson play every role.

Sleuth. With those 2 acting against each other. Someone who lives close to them and wants to be a director should make it happen. Now.

[Paste Pot Pete]

I adore Sean Bean in Equilibrium. :up: :up:

"Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams"

Brilliant.

[Marx]

The critique of the tubes was definitely valid. also for those who don't know this was by Tony Moore for the new Venom series, I just, very crudely I may add, turned it into what I expect Nolan to do with Bane.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j324/WakeDaveBad/Banev2.jpg

I'm torn on this. On one hand, the look of this version is really cool. On the other hand, it isn't really 'Bane'.

[green]

Sorrry if this has been posted, I looked around and couldnt find if it had or not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/22022008cl77e0.jpg


:woot:

[Marx]

Oh my... :lmao:

[Nathan]

Ok, we know Bane will be slightly changed to fit the Nolan Universe. Though we do not know to what degree. What we do know, is that Bane won't be a hulking monster, seeing as Hardy was cast for the role. His strength might even be toned down a bit.

IMO, this should be the minimum level of badassery displayed by Bane.

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[Mr. Earle]

Sleuth. With those 2 acting against each other. Someone who lives close to them and wants to be a director should make it happen. Now.
Meh, i want more characters with those two playing them. Imagine Bean playing a woman. :awesome:

[Gianakin_]

Meh, i want more characters with those two playing them. Imagine Bean playing a woman. :awesome:

Since I lived to witness RDJ's Holmes pretend to be a woman, I'm sure I'll be able to imagine Bean as well:woot:

[RustyCage]

"Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams"

Brilliant.

:applaud

One of my favorite moments of any film, truly.

[Mr. Earle]

Since I lived to witness RDJ's Holmes pretend to be a woman, I'm sure I'll be able to imagine Bean as well:woot:
Which film?

[Gianakin_]

Which film?

Sherlock 2, coming up. There was a set visit and RDJ was in a woman's disguise.

There you go. (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=20368&count=33)

[Milu]

Sorrry if this has been posted, I looked around and couldnt find if it had or not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/markofort/22022008cl77e0.jpg


:woot:
Booyaka!

[Miranda Fox]

AHAHAHAHA!

I wish his management hadn't made him shut down his Myspace and deprived us of things like this. :(

[RustyCage]

AHAHAHAHA!

I wish his management hadn't made him shut down his Myspace and deprived us of things like this. :(

I wonder why they do that...

[MILPERSMAN]

I'm not a fan of Metalica but I always thought this would be a awesome theme for Bane :word:

nyVxY6GNvFI

[jazzmatik]

Question: Does Bane pose more of an overall threat to Batman than Riddler?

[regwec]

Yes.

[Solidus]

Question: Does Bane pose more of an overall threat to Batman than Riddler?

Depends, but I say yes. Bane is considered one of the most intelligent foes Batman has ever come across, on top of that he is physically extremely dangerous, he is a tactician and physically a threat to Batman. So I would say yea he is more dangerous then the Riddler.

[jazzmatik]

Okay, thanks guys. I wasn't actually sure which one was considered more intelligent.

[RustyCage]

Question: Does Bane pose more of an overall threat to Batman than Riddler?

It really depends on how Nolan would write them.

[terry78]

Well, none of Batman's villains are stupid, they're all pretty intellectually gifted in some way or another. But the ones that can best him physically alongside it can be a dangerous combination.

[jazzmatik]

It really depends on how Nolan would write them.

That's true, but I'm talking about in regards to the comics.

[regwec]

Okay, thanks guys. I wasn't actually sure which one was considered more intelligent.
Nigma actually probably has a higher IQ; he certainly shows more original thinking. But Bane has a better strategic mind (if measured by success), and Bane is a more dangerous personality. Nigma is less ruthless and more recreational in his approach to crime.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I like Bane's revamped design from B:TAS. Better than the original.

[Capt Throbberson]

Question: Does Bane pose more of an overall threat to Batman than Riddler?

Riddler doesn't really kill and has a compulsion to tell Batman his plans through Riddles.

Yes, he's definitely more of a threat

[RustyCage]

Nigma actually probably has a higher IQ; he certainly shows more original thinking. But Bane has a better strategic mind (if measured by success), and Bane is a more dangerous personality. Nigma is less ruthless and more recreational in his approach to crime.

That's a pretty good summary. :up:

They both have very similar levels of obsession though.

[raybia]

FYI

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/94226

[Excelsior.]

Question: Does Bane pose more of an overall threat to Batman than Riddler?

Riddler is Batman's "Shocker". A Joke most of the time. Bane is one of his most dangerous foes.

[MILPERSMAN]

What is the story called when Bane goes after his father? I have Demon of Bane and Knightfall and both of the Vengeance of Bane. I love hoe Bane Beats KGbeast

[Nave 'Torment']

I was watching OVER THE EDGE again and I just remembered how brilliantly this episode fits into Nolan's Batman world. We have the cops (and Gordon) out to get Batman, infiltrating the cave, Batman realizing that it's time he quits his role, and a flashback to a crime SCARECROW - the only villain to appear in two consequent films - committed. They could just show that the 'Barbara' who died isn't Babs, but her mom. Get Sarah in there somehow and finally have that iconic showdown between Bane, Batman and Gordon on top of GCPD HQ.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

It's too bad we won't see Bane pick up the Bat-signal and throw it at Batman.

[Nave 'Torment']

Riddler is Batman's "Shocker". A Joke most of the time. Bane is one of his most dangerous foes.

Definitely, even more so when Jeph Loeb's writing - he used that reputation twice to pull the wool over the reader (WHEN IN ROME and HUSH).

Bane's more of his Doomsday or Venom (uh...bad example?) and its fitting that the final chapter to Batman Begins ends with someone like Bane - just as a third Superman film would be awesome with Doomsday. The only thing telling me otherwise is the sheer fact that I have to CONVINCE myself when I'm saying that :doh:

[Nathan]

It's too bad we won't see Bane pick up the Bat-signal and throw it at Batman.

Hmm... Maybe we'll get Bane lifting Batman instead and throwing him at the Batsignal. :awesome:

[PreK]

I was watching OVER THE EDGE again and I just remembered how brilliantly this episode fits into Nolan's Batman world. We have the cops (and Gordon) out to get Batman, infiltrating the cave, Batman realizing that it's time he quits his role, and a flashback to a crime SCARECROW - the only villain to appear in two consequent films - committed. They could just show that the 'Barbara' who died isn't Babs, but her mom. Get Sarah in there somehow and finally have that iconic showdown between Bane, Batman and Gordon on top of GCPD HQ.
It's a great episode, but they would most definitely have to alter Gordon's position in that story. It worked so well precisely because the depth of betrayal Gordon felt was enough to completely throw away all the loyalty he had for Bats. That relied solely on Batgirl's existence because there was the personal connection, and all the years she was active was equally the same amount of time Batman wasn't being entirely truthful.

The other story elements fit relatively well with Nolan's films, you're right about that. A nice blend between that episode, Knightfall, and original ideas from Nolan would compound to a potentially smashing finale.

[antsman41]

Hmm... Maybe we'll get Bane lifting Batman instead and throwing him at the Batsignal. :awesome:

There is no bat-signal, remember? Gordon destroyed it...

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Here's a thought, what if Bane kills Scarecrow? Since he had a cameo in TDK, I'm expecting him to show up one more time just for the hell of it. The movie could open up with Scarecrow trying to do another deal, similar to TDK's opening, then Bane shows up and it's curtains for Crane.

Since the Scarecrow is a fairly big character in the series, I think killing him off would be great to show off that Bane is a whole new monster and the threat of death comes with him.

[antsman41]

Here's a thought, what if Bane kills Scarecrow? Since he had a cameo in TDK, I'm expecting him to show up one more time just for the hell of it. The movie could open up with Scarecrow trying to do another deal, similar to TDK's opening, then Bane shows up and it's curtains for Crane.

Since the Scarecrow is a fairly big character in the series, I think killing him off would be great to show off that Bane is a whole new monster and the threat of death comes with him.

No, only the Joker could get away with killing Scarecrow. Like how he beats the **** out of him with a chair in Knightfall...

Bane should kill Zsasz like how he killed FilmFreak in Knightfall.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

For consistency's sake, I'd say it's better if it were the Scarecrow. You'd think, "Oh, this guy again." Then bam, he's ****ing dead.

[Nave 'Torment']

It's too bad we won't see Bane pick up the Bat-signal and throw it at Batman.

I'm expecting it to pop up somehow - maybe Selina uses it again, but that would be too much like that award-worthy scene from Batman Forever :awesome:

Batman: We all wear masks
Chase: My life's an open book (strips), you read?
Batman: I don't blend in at a family picnic.
Chase: We could give it a try, I'll bring the wine, you bring your scarred psyche.
Batman: (ogles her) direct, aren't you?
Chase: You like strong women. I've done my homework. Or do I need skin-tight vinyl and a whip?
...Batman: (few moments later) It's the car isn't it? Chicks love the car.

[Bat-Mite]

IMO, Batman getting broken (assuming this happens) should be shocking enough. I'd rather not see any more villains die. It's bad enough that we've had a major villain die in each film so far.

[Nathan]

For consistency's sake, I'd say it's better if it were the Scarecrow. You'd think, "Oh, this guy again." Then bam, he's ****ing dead.

Maybe he could break a couple bones instead and send him to a hospital for a several months. I haven't read many comics with Bane, but I would assume killing a nerdy dude with a bag on his head is a little below him.

[antsman41]

Maybe he could break a couple bones instead and send him to a hospital for a several months. I haven't read many comics with Bane, but I would assume killing a nerdy dude with a bag on his head is a little below him.

He killed FilmFreak for no other reason than that FF was stalking him and reporting to the Mad Hatter.

[Nathan]

He killed FilmFreak for no other reason than that FF was stalking him and reporting to the Mad Hatter.

Well, that was a lame characters. That's ok. :o

[Marx]

Here's a thought, what if Bane kills Scarecrow? Since he had a cameo in TDK, I'm expecting him to show up one more time just for the hell of it. The movie could open up with Scarecrow trying to do another deal, similar to TDK's opening, then Bane shows up and it's curtains for Crane.

Since the Scarecrow is a fairly big character in the series, I think killing him off would be great to show off that Bane is a whole new monster and the threat of death comes with him.

Joker and Scarecrow are locked away in Arkham.

[Nathan]

Come on, it's Arkham. When did that place ever keep anyone locked up.

[Marx]

Come on, it's Arkham. When did that place ever keep anyone locked up.

It would really cheapen Arkham to have yet another jailbreak in a Batman film.

[Happy Jack]

Joker and Scarecrow are locked away in Arkham.
Bane could probably still get to Scarecrow in some way. He might even be able to break him out of Arkham. If Crane is used in a limited, Hannibal Lecter-type informant role to Gordon it would make sense for Bane to go through the trouble of getting him and then killing him.

[HighFivingMF]

Joker and Scarecrow are locked away in Arkham.
And Zsasz and Falcone. :yay:

[Marx]

And Zsasz and Falcone. :yay:

I thought Zsasz was shown escaping? I forgot about Falcone.

[Marx]

Bane could probably still get to Scarecrow in some way. He might even be able to break him out of Arkham. If Crane is used in a limited, Hannibal Lecter-type informant role to Gordon it would make sense for Bane to go through the trouble of getting him and then killing him.

As much as I love Crane and Cillian Murphy's portrayal, I don't think he should be used again.

[HighFivingMF]

I thought Zsasz was shown escaping? I forgot about Falcone.
He got out in Begins, but if Batman managed to catch Scarecrow I don't think catching Zsasz and the other inmates would be that hard even for the police once the fear gas dissipated.

[Marx]

He got out in Begins, but if Batman managed to catch Scarecrow I don't think catching Zsasz and the other inmates would be that hard even for the police once the fear gas dissipated.

That's true.

[Saint]

That's not really fair. Bane was created, Just like Doomsday, to be nothing more than a brute force to break the superhero. It was only after that that comic book writers went back and added any sort of depth to the characters, and hell, even Doomsday nowadays has more going on for him than just "the thing that can kill Superman." Just because someone has retconned a story onto a character like Bane doesn't mean he's any better a character now.

Let's forget for a moment that you're completely mistaken (as Red Hood pointed out, Bane's story wasn't a retcon; it came before his appearance in Knightfall); the real curiosity here is that you're arguing improving a character after that character's creation doesn't mean the character is "any better." I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it means.

Really, what an absurd thing to say.

[antsman41]

Bat caught Zsasz somewhat when he saved that kid/Rachael. I always assumed the cops came up upon a knocked out Zsasz sometime thereafter...

[regwec]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/hamas.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/article-1052085-0053DDA400000258-366_233x360.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/SNN3111X-682_857252a.jpg

Just thinking about the options for Bane's "villain" costume, I fail to see why he needs an elaborate tactical bodysuit encompassing various armoured elements; or why his traditional mask is unachievable.

The images above are or Hamas, IRA and ETA paramilitaries. They exist in the real world. Their masks are designed to conceal their identities, to impress, and to intimidate. That's exactly what Bane would have in mind. Given that, I think it would be in Nolan's character to make a very short jump-off from these existing concepts to Bane's design.

I think simplicity is called for; give him combat trousers, a turtleneck sweater, and a black and white ski mask. Done.

[Marx]

I still say let Bane have Colemon Reese! :funny:

[terry78]

If Coleman Reese isn't dead in 60 minutes, I kick the **** out of a kitten.

[antsman41]

I still say let Bane have Colemon Reese! :funny:

Hey, Reese knows he was wrong. Bruce saved his ass...

But, maybe Bane should feel that only he himself is worthy of knowing such info and tries to kill anyone that does know; Reese, Fox, Pennyworth...

[Mister H.]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/hamas.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/article-1052085-0053DDA400000258-366_233x360.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/regwec/SNN3111X-682_857252a.jpg

Just thinking about the options for Bane's "villain" costume, I fail to see why he needs an elaborate tactical bodysuit encompassing various armoured elements; or why his traditional mask is unachievable.

The images above are or Hamas, IRA and ETA paramilitaries. They exist in the real world. Their masks are designed to conceal their identities, to impress, and to intimidate. That's exactly what Bane would have in mind. Given that, I think it would be in Nolan's character to make a very short jump-off from these existing concepts to Bane's design.

I think simplicity is called for; give him combat trousers, a turtleneck sweater, and a black and white ski mask. Done.
I couldn't agree more, and suspect this is the route Nolan and company will go. Make those "combat trousers" camouflage, and we're basically on the same page. Maybe the white on the mask should form a type of symbol. A large white star could work, or maybe a design that subtley suggests a wolf??

[Violet Lantern]

I want Bane to break Mr.Reese.

[HighFivingMF]

If Coleman Reese isn't dead in 60 minutes, I kick the **** out of a kitten.
Now I hope he survives... Goddamn kittens.

[Marx]

If Coleman Reese isn't dead in 60 minutes, I kick the **** out of a kitten.

:funny:

Hey, Reese knows he was wrong. Bruce saved his ass...

But, maybe Bane should feel that only he himself is worthy of knowing such info and tries to kill anyone that does know; Reese, Fox, Pennyworth...

Reese is the only one who has publicly admitted to knowing. Bane needs to break the little wimp!

[raybia]

I still say let Bane have Colemon Reese! :funny:

Maybe this is how the movie opens. Reese comes home to a dark house to find Bane waiting. He asks him who Batman is. Reese gives a smart ass response. Bane tortures him and Reese relents. Bane thanks him and snaps his neck.

[Anchor_Content]

Hey, Reese knows he was wrong. Bruce saved his ass...

But, maybe Bane should feel that only he himself is worthy of knowing such info and tries to kill anyone that does know; Reese, Fox, Pennyworth...

:hoboj: THAT I can see happening. Maybe that's Bane's sense of honor speaking - "I alone can know the identity of the Bat." And that would be a great way to introduce Bane in the movie.

Why hasn't Nolan hired us as writers? Or at least as advisors?

[Marx]

Maybe this is how the movie opens. Reese comes home to a dark house to find Bane waiting. He asks him who Batman is. Reese gives a smart ass response. Bane tortures him and Reese relents. Bane thanks him and snaps his neck.

That works for me! :funny:

[DaveMoral]

Bane could probably still get to Scarecrow in some way. He might even be able to break him out of Arkham. If Crane is used in a limited, Hannibal Lecter-type informant role to Gordon it would make sense for Bane to go through the trouble of getting him and then killing him.

Using Scarecrow would only make sense if he's used as an informant on the League of Shadows. Which works of Bane is vying for leadership of the League of Shadows, trying to bring down Gotham like Ra's/Ducard wished when he died. His pursuit of Batman functions two-fold, vengeance for Ra's and that Batman needs to be eliminated in order to accomplish the mission.

[The Red Hood]

Does anyone else think it's awesome that Hardy essentially played Bane (well, a more realistic version of him) in Bronson? When you compare Bronson's life in prison to Bane's, it's creepy. I wonder if O'Neill and Dixon used Bronson as a basis for Bane?

At any rate, I'm thrilled about Bane being the villain, esp. as a "child of the 90s" comics who started reading Batman heavily when Batman 89 hit theaters.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Joker and Scarecrow are locked away in Arkham.
Says who?

[Frosty81]

Does anyone else think it's awesome that Hardy essentially played Bane (well, a more realistic version of him) in Bronson? When you compare Bronson's life in prison to Bane's, it's creepy. I wonder if O'Neill and Dixon used Bronson as a basis for Bane?

At any rate, I'm thrilled about Bane being the villain, esp. as a "child of the 90s" comics who started reading Batman heavily when Batman 89 hit theaters.

That's me exactly...Became a huge Batman fan after the 89 film hit and collected and read madly for the next five years until I started playing guitar. So, the last stories I read with Bane was the Knightsend/Quest and unfortunately let Schumacher's Batman & Robin taint my memory. Reading 'Bane Of The Demon' now...I had no idea how smart and calculating Bane is.

[Darkness Falls]

well joker was taken into police custordy
and scarecrow was left for the cops at the start of tdk

[Nave 'Torment']

Maybe he could break a couple bones instead and send him to a hospital for a several months. I haven't read many comics with Bane, but I would assume killing a nerdy dude with a bag on his head is a little below him.

Lock-Up, the prison-guard-turned-looney-tune in Arkham, stalked Crane for a while, driving him nuts. Think that'll be used here? I like the Over-The-Edge idea of having Crane commit something really nasty, or the point of having him killed. But those are just for shock value and it's cheap writing. So, nah, forget both.

Come on, it's Arkham. When did that place ever keep anyone locked up.

:awesome: Since Batman got trapped in it? Oh wait, I got a better one - since they stopped showing it after Batman Begins.

It would really cheapen Arkham to have yet another jailbreak in a Batman film.

Sad but true.

I still say let Bane have Colemon Reese! :funny:

:wow: come on Reese is our Riddler isn't he? I thought the internet unanimously agreed that Mr.Reese (mysteries) is Eddie and that the poor sap who almost became Two-Face killer 1 was the Mad Hatter, and that fly-boy in Gotham Knight was Firefly and Lau was the Calculator and Bruce was the Man-Bat and...someone was the Creeper...and...that big brute of a Bhutanese prisoner was Ubu... anyway. I forgot, the internet made democracy obsolete. Sorry, my bad.

My point: yeah, feed Reese to the dogs! Oh and also have him be the unwilling aid to Batman/Catwoman and Falcone from Loeb's books.

[HighFivingMF]

:wow: come on Reese is our Riddler isn't he? I thought the internet unanimously agreed that Mr.Reese (mysteries) is Eddie and that the poor sap who almost became Two-Face killer 1 was the Mad Hatter, and that fly-boy in Gotham Knight was Firefly and Lau was the Calculator and Bruce was the Man-Bat and...someone was the Creeper...and...that big brute of a Bhutanese prisoner was Ubu... anyway. I forgot, the internet made democracy obsolete. Sorry, my bad.
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Don't forget about that old guy at the table when Joker made the pencil disappear. That's definitely Penguin! :oldrazz:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

well joker was taken into police custordy
and scarecrow was left for the cops at the start of tdk
I'll buy that for the Joker, but Scarecrow could still be out there. I'd like to think that there's just that one guy in Gotham, who's not really a major threat anymore, but more like an annoyance for Batman to deal with.

[Marx]

Crane deserves to be a lot more than an 'annoyance'. He had a full movie and a second movie cameo...that's enough.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Tell that to Lex Luthor.

[antsman41]

Don't forget about that old guy at the table when Joker made the pencil disappear. That's definitely Penguin! :oldrazz:

no, the penguin is the guy with big nose and long black hair in Arkham that Batman looks at when running among the bats.

Where were you in 05, haha?

[Marx]

In all seriousness, I do wish we could have seen Nolan's version of Penguin. The character needs to some serious redemption after Burton's Batman Returns. :csad:

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

no, the penguin is the guy with big nose and long black hair in Arkham that Batman looks at when running among the bats.

Where were you in 05, haha?
That reminds me, how could Nolan not follow up with Mr. Freeze after he was clearly there in Arkham? :hehe:

[jerkhero]

I hope The Dark Knight Rises is a terrible movie, so i don't feel so sad about the fact that we will never see Nolan's Penguin or The Riddler.

[Darkness Falls]

don't forget in begins batman runs past the joker standing in his arkham cell :D

[RustyCage]

I hope The Dark Knight Rises is a terrible movie, so i don't feel so sad about the fact that we will never see Nolan's Penguin or The Riddler.

That's one of the most insane suggestions I've ever heard. :huh: Why would you want any Batman film to be bad? Why not just hope for Nolan to come back with another idea for a film that includes those two?

[Secret Fawful]

Exactly. My butt might hurt over the fact Black Mask doesn't seem likely to be in the movie, but I'm still incredibly excited to see what Nolan is bringing to the plate.

[jerkhero]

I was just joking of course. And it doesn't matter what i want, this film will be awesome:up:

[ad101867]

BTW, I think that's The Rock in the suit. I can tell by his Samoan tattoo.
We'll probably get a great version of Bane, but personally I might've cast Dwayne Johnson in the role. He's got major screen charisma, and I think he could be coached into producing a very convincing Bane performance.

. . . I would expect [Bane's mask] to be used the same way the Scarecrow's mask was used, and the same way Batman's mask is used: intelligently. He'll wear it when it makes sense, and won't wear it when it doesn't.
I'd love to see Batman initially get "beaten" (not with a broken back though) by Bane, and then turn around and infiltrate the criminal underworld in his other alter-ego: Matches Malone. This could serve as a tool he uses to pursue and take down Bane with a different approach after getting trounced in his first attempt.

I don't get why Bane NEEDS the Venom.....Seriously theres nothing wrong with making him just a really bad ass dude who can kick some serious ass and have him be pretty big at the same time. If Batman/Bruce Wayne can obtain skills to kick anyones ass than why can't Bane?
Yeah, that could be fine. For a one-off movie version, I imagine Bane as the counter-Batman: what Bruce could've become if he'd gone criminal instead of vigilante. I wish a bigger actor had been cast, but they could simply alter the character a bit so that he's a great fighter without being huge. That version of Bane could still accomplish what the comicbook Bane does. He could be portrayed as a driven man who sort of out-Bruces Bruce Wayne.

[Octoberist]

But I want Bane to do things that are questionable strong in the film, you know? I don't want him just to be a strong dude because there's a lot of strong dudes out there.

[Parquagh]

I'm also hoping he'll incoporate elements of "Venom" in here. Bruce failing in rescuing a child and him using drugs to boost his power.

That would be really interesting; Batman depressed because of Rachel and then the kid and being dependent on Venom would make him physically and mentally vulnerable, during the withdrawal Bane takes advantage of that situation and leaves him severly injured. Bruce recovers from both situations and comes back to defeat Bane and make sure Venom is destroyed.

I doubt Batman's back will be broken because of 'the realism', but that element could be incorporated like Bane's Signature, eg. Coleman Reese or others guys killed after having their backs broken...

[antsman41]

I'd die if Matches Malone was in a Batman movie, so epic and awesome...

[raybia]

That's one of the most insane suggestions I've ever heard. :huh: Why would you want any Batman film to be bad? Why not just hope for Nolan to come back with another idea for a film that includes those two?

Thats a bad ass avatar.

[Nightmare]

Thats a bad ass avatar.

what's yours from?

[Hunter Rider]

^^ Phenomenon.

[raybia]

^^ Phenomenon.

what's yours from?

Which is a damn good movie and an interesting subject if you haven't seen it, check it out.

[Nightmare]

ohh, ill add it to my netflix now.

[Mako]

I'd die if Matches Malone was in a Batman movie, so epic and awesome...

:applaud

[raybia]

ohh, ill add it to my netflix now.

Enjoy!

[Hunter Rider]

Which is a damn good movie and an interesting subject if you haven't seen it, check it out.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who liked that film.

[raybia]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who liked that film.

Its a very underrated movie and I love the message about human potential.

[hulk24]

Its a very underrated movie and I love the message about human potential.

indeed its one of my favorite travolta films

[Wolfwood]

Bring a box of tissues. That's all I'm saying.

[Broseidon1901]

It seems way more likely to me that Bane will have a pretty revamped origin. Nolan simply doesn't have as much comic book material to base his Bane on as he had for the Joker. Keep the prison bit, his physical beating of Batman (maybe not a full on back breaking, but certainly a beat down), and an intellectual besting as well.

I'd love for the film to open with a slight history of Bane, a la Magneto origin story at the beginning of X-Men. It's so hard not to make it gimmicky though..

[Broseidon1901]

And raybia, I appreciate the support bud. I've been a lurker for years, but just decided to get in on the action. It's really the only thing that keeps me not thinking about my eager anticipation for the next bit of news..

[breyfogle_rules]

Can someone tell me what Bane's motivation is as a character?

I've read comics and seen animation featuring him but his MO always seemed kinda flat to me.
He was always either a hostile warrior guy looking for a challenge or a hired assassin.
No real deep-seated reason for being a super villain. That doesn't seem very "Nolan" to me.

Can somebody clarify this guy's deal?

[Saint]

Can someone tell me what Bane's motivation is as a character?
I've read comics and seen animation featuring him but his MO always seem kinda flat to me.

He was always either a hostile warrior guy looking for a challenge or a hired assassin.
No real deep seated reasoning for being a super villain, and that doesn't seem very "Nolan" to me.

Can somebody clarify this guy's deal?

Bane's convinced that he's the ultimate human, and most of what he does is motivated by the desire to prove that (Batman being the only other contender in his mind) and get what he feels he deserves. Also, having been unjustly imprisoned from birth, he feels entitled to do whatever he wants as a way of reclaiming freedom that was stolen from him.

As for being a "hired assassin," Bane doesn't really take orders--if it appears that he's taking orders, it's generally a means of accomplishing a greater goal.

[ShivNasty]

Hardy needs to start lifting weights about six months ago to even think about playing Bane.... that beong said I hope he kicks Batmans ass and makes the plot worthwhile

[ChinoXL]

Yes, please - you know how heat had that amazing bank shootout scene - I hope the scene where batman gets beat up is so epic that the entire theater is left in utter silence wondering what the hell happened :awesome:

[rashad]

That doesn't seem very "Nolan" to me.



Nolan stated that it's a new interpretation of the character. I think we all should expect the unexpected with TDKR. Which is quite exciting.

[hegele]

If Nolan keeps the imprisoned aspect for Bane, than Hardy is perfect (yet predictable) casting, Bronson could almost be a prequel story for Bane.

[Micah12345]

I don't see how hardy is predictable casting for bane at all.

I have no idea how he's going to play the part.

[D.P.]

I guess I'll get around to watching Bronson on Netflix tonight.

[Conebone69]

Even if Bane doesn't literally break Batman's back like in Knightfall, I think that it's very important he "break" Batman as in he physically destroys him in their first battle. I don't believe we've ever really seen in a Batman movie Batman be utterly beaten and torn apart in a fistfight, and it could be quite shocking to see. Just have Batman left a bloody, battered wreck.

Maybe even do it like an altered version of Knightfall, where Bane learns that Bruce Wayne is Batman, but waits in the shadows for the right moment to strike. You can set up a scenario in the first act of the film where Batman is beleagured, beset on all sides. The police are after him, he's struggling to bring down the last of the mob, and he's locked in a battle of wits with this new master thief, Catwoman, all while still dealing with the emotional fallout of Rachel's death. And while this is going on, Bane is in the shadows, working his way inevitably towards destroying Batman. Perhaps a scene of him torturing Coleman Reese to learn Batman's secret identity, then killing him once he gets it. And just when Batman's near breaking point from all that's going on, that's when Bane strikes. Maybe you could even do it like in Knightfall, where Bane attacks Bruce Wayne instead of Batman. Bruce - just about out on his feet - staggers home, up from the Batcave and into the mansion... and Bane is waiting for him.

Cue the aformentioned physical dismantling.

Then for the whole second act... Batman is out-of-action. Either Bruce is beaten into a coma, or he's too injured to leave his hospital bed. Bane claims he has broken the Batman and takes control of the city, unifying what's left of the mobs under his rule. He becomes what Batman's biggest detractors in Gotham feared Batman would be: a tyrant terrorising good citizens through the use of fear. The police are overwhelmed, and the only one that can fight against him is Catwoman. Though enjoying her status as a foil for Batman, in his absence she realises his importance, and tries to be the same symbol he was. But try as she might, she can't stop Bane.

And the third act is about Bruce Wayne finding the strength to pick himself up and battle Bane once more, and in this final battle he triumphs, saving Gotham and finally being recognised as the hero and saviour he is. The Dark Knight Rises.

DUDE, this is brilliant! I would love it if this was the plot!! :up:

[Anchor_Content]

:applaud

Referring to the Matches Malone prospect.... I think one of the best qualities about these Nolan films is that we see Bruce Wayne -- and not necessarily Bruce as Batman -- as the driving force behind change. In BB, he trains as a ninja and later sacrifices his personal identity at the party, and fights Ra's; in TDK, he intervenes in all the chaos as Bruce Wayne.

That was the worst part about the Burton/Schumacher films (apart from the bat-nipples... and the penguin army... and Batman killing villains... and over-the-top performances... and Batgirl... and Arnold as Mr. Freeze... and the AWFUL portrayal of Bane). It was like Bruce Wayne HAD to be dressed as Batman to do anything.

Whereas in Nolan's trilogy, Batman simply fulfills the need for theatricality. Bruce Wayne is always the driving force behind everything. I hope we see Bruce take on Bane WITHOUT the batsuit -- because then the audience will see him survive on his wits and physical prowess alone.

In fact... I sense a prediction: Bruce Wayne WILL take on Bane without most of his gear, and most likely without his mask. :word:

And maybe, just MAYBE, we'll get Matches Malone. :)

[Anchor_Content]

DUDE, this is brilliant! I would love it if this was the plot!! :up:

I agree! That's awesome! It would be AWESOME if...

BRUCE arrives at the manor after a night out as Matches Malone. He enters the batcave -- and finds BANE with a badly beaten ALFRED. BRUCE takes on BANE and loses. BANE spares BRUCE, because he feels it's too easy without the suit, and needs to be public so Gotham sees the defeat of BATMAN.

BRUCE and ALFRED wind up in the hospital... with LUCIUS and SELINA in supporting roles.

Third act: Enter the Az-Bat suit and BATMAN vs. BANE. :woot:

[ChinoXL]

read up on matches malone sounds like an interesting character

[Conebone69]

I agree! That's awesome! It would be AWESOME if...

BRUCE arrives at the manor after a night out as Matches Malone. He enters the batcave -- and finds BANE with a badly beaten ALFRED. BRUCE takes on BANE and loses. BANE spares BRUCE, because he feels it's too easy without the suit, and needs to be public so Gotham sees the defeat of BATMAN.

BRUCE and ALFRED wind up in the hospital... with LUCIUS and SELINA in supporting roles.

Third act: Enter the Az-Bat suit and BATMAN vs. BANE. :woot:

Hmm, idk about him hurting alfred...

[American_Idiot]

Okay, so who would like to see Bane figure out Batman's identity on his own, and who would like to see him squeeze the information outta Coleman Reese? (Granted Bane figures it out in DKR)

Personally, I wouldn't mind, as someone mentioned earlier, Mr. Reese returning home, to find Bane waiting for him. Reese is reluctant to give out the information as Bruce saved his life, but Bane forces it out of him before leaving brutally murdering him.

Now the way I see this scene panning out would be with a refresher near the film's beginning with some snippets of Reese on the television (ala TDK) announcing that he knows who Batman is. Then cut to the scene with him pulling up to his home late at night.

Perhaps a scene that is captioned ONE DAY EARLIER showing how Bane (a "bounty hunter") was hired on by the GCPD to find and bring in the Batman. We find out the bigger scheme of things as the movie pans out. Bane heading the League of Shadows, with plans to finish what Ra's started. I'm going off on a tangeant now, lol.

[Anchor_Content]

Hmm, idk about him hurting alfred...

I feel like it has to happen. Alfred has been Bruce's anchor since BB... and why wouldn't Bane attack Alfred if he knew Batman's identity? It's totally possible, since Bane DID attack Alfred in Knightfall. Combine that with an attack by Bane's goons on Lucius, or an attempted attack, and holy double threat, Batman.

Plus, Alfred's never been the victim of a villain on-screen (unless you count Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee-Jones knocking him out in Batman Forever... yuck). What better way to show the strength of the father-son relationship between Bruce and Alfred than to test it? And what better way for Nolan to tell the audience, "Hey, the stakes are still high, so don't even BEGIN to think that 'Rises' means total victory for Batman."

I think Nolan will do it. Hell, he killed off Rachel Dawes.

[D.P.]

Within the first minute or so of Bronson, I have Tom Hardy staring deep into my soul. This dude is intense.

[Anchor_Content]

Okay, so who would like to see Bane figure out Batman's identity on his own, and who would like to see him squeeze the information outta Coleman Reese? (Granted Bane figures it out in DKR)

Personally, I wouldn't mind, as someone mentioned earlier, Mr. Reese returning home, to find Bane waiting for him. Reese is reluctant to give out the information as Bruce saved his life, but Bane forces it out of him before leaving brutally murdering him.

Now the way I see this scene panning out would be with a refresher near the film's beginning with some snippets of Reese on the television (ala TDK) announcing that he knows who Batman is. Then cut to the scene with him pulling up to his home late at night.

Perhaps a scene that is captioned ONE DAY EARLIER showing how Bane (a "bounty hunter") was hired on by the GCPD to find and bring in the Batman. We find out the bigger scheme of things as the movie pans out. Bane heading the League of Shadows, with plans to finish what Ra's started. I'm going off on a tangeant now, lol.

I think this will happen as well. Reese is a loose end that needs tying up. He either needs to die, or... maybe less predictably... he should assist Bats and Catwoman in some way. But I think gruesome-death-at-Bane's-hands is in his deck of cards.

[Conebone69]

I feel like it has to happen. Alfred has been Bruce's anchor since BB... and why wouldn't Bane attack Alfred if he knew Batman's identity? It's totally possible, since Bane DID attack Alfred in Knightfall. Combine that with an attack by Bane's goons on Lucius, or an attempted attack, and holy double threat, Batman.

Plus, Alfred's never been the victim of a villain on-screen (unless you count Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee-Jones knocking him out in Batman Forever... yuck). What better way to show the strength of the father-son relationship between Bruce and Alfred than to test it? And what better way for Nolan to tell the audience, "Hey, the stakes are still high, so don't even BEGIN to think that 'Rises' means total victory for Batman."

I think Nolan will do it. Hell, he killed off Rachel Dawes.

Yeah, like alfred is always there to take care of bruce. So if bruce and alfred gets severely injured then bruce wont have anyone there for him, helping him through the recovery. Idk just seems like a bit too much

[American_Idiot]

Injuring Alfred, but not killing him or leaving him a vegetable, works for me.

Something like: Bruce returns home exhausted, to find Alfred laying on the floor motionless. He runs over to his aid, but is quickly haulted by Bane, who is hiding/waiting in the shadows. You know the rest...

We see Alfred appear in the next act at Bruce's side, arm in a cast, or bandages on his head...something along these lines.

How did Alfie attain his beating? A swift backhand from Bane, or pushing him down the staircase...but nowhere near the stomping Bane gives Bruce. :cwink:

[Anchor_Content]

Yeah, like alfred is always there to take care of bruce. So if bruce and alfred gets severely injured then bruce wont have anyone there for him, helping him through the recovery. Idk just seems like a bit too much

I think a debilitating attack on Alfred would give Selina and Lucius more supportive roles and on-screen time... and it would give TDKR a great finish, with Bruce at Alfred's bedside saying something ridiculously touching, like, "Why do we fall?" And Alfred turns out okay.

I predict that TDKR's end will go something like this:

1. Bane experiences a Venom overdose and dies, or the GCPD arrests him
2. The Gotham News Network reveals that Harvey Dent killed all the victims at TDK's end
3. Bruce visits a recovering Alfred in the hospital, and they share a touching scene and mention Rachel and Bruce's parents
4. Bruce and Selina share a scene; they flirt and even kiss
5. Batman meets Gordon in his office

Cue applause and audience wistfulness for another bat-flick :yay:

[Conebone69]

I think a debilitating attack on Alfred would give Selina and Lucius more supportive roles and on-screen time... and it would give TDKR a great finish, with Bruce at Alfred's bedside saying something ridiculously touching, like, "Why do we fall?" And Alfred turns out okay.

I predict that TDKR's end will go something like this:

1. Bane experiences a Venom overdose and dies, or the GCPD arrests him
2. The Gotham News Network reveals that Harvey Dent killed all the victims at TDK's end
3. Bruce visits a recovering Alfred in the hospital, and they share a touching scene and mention Rachel and Bruce's parents
4. Bruce and Selina share a scene; they flirt and even kiss
5. Batman meets Gordon in his office

Cue applause and audience wistfulness for another bat-flick :yay:

Haha, I hope it will have a touching ending or maybe a badass one like at the end of BB

[Robin91939]

I wouldn't mind seeing him renew the vow at his parents grave.....in the Batsuit, that is...

-R

[Saint]

So long as it ends with Gordon and Batman, as the previous two did, I'm happy.

[BatFan88]

with Bruce at Alfred's bedside saying something ridiculously touching, like, "Why do we fall?" And Alfred turns out okay.


:doh: that sounds a little to cheesy its like 'Batman & Robin' :barf:

[Charlie The Red]

Yeah I know. Could you imagine if they used a line like "Why do we fall?" in a Nolan movie? :barf:

:doh:

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

It would be pretty cool if they had a showdown (with Bruce Wayne) like Knightfall with Gordon and the cops watching on. A big slug out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4sJ68xa4qM

[Gianakin_]

B
As for being a "hired assassin," Bane doesn't really take orders--if it appears that he's taking orders, it's generally a means of accomplishing a greater goal.

And that's pretty much Joker in TDK, that's why I don't see them going that route with Bane.

[Gianakin_]

Okay, so who would like to see Bane figure out Batman's identity on his own, and who would like to see him squeeze the information outta Coleman Reese? (Granted Bane figures it out in DKR)

I'd like to see both. I just don't want Bane to find out Bats's identity in the same half-a##ed way he did in Knightfall.

[Anchor_Content]

Yeah I know. Could you imagine if they used a line like "Why do we fall?" in a Nolan movie? :barf:

:doh:

lol, seriously

On another note, I can't take any of these ideas about Catwoman suiting up in Batman's potential absence very seriously. Catwoman is an anti-hero(ine) at best. I think the Nolanized Catwoman will be Carmine Falcone's daughter, a professional thief for sure, and maybe a call-girl (a la Batman: Year One).

I don't think we'll see Catwoman until the very end... and during much of the movie, I think it'll be unclear as to which side Selina is playing for: Batman's or Bane's.

[Anchor_Content]

Okay, this my last post, and I need to hit the sack. (I'm a freelance writer who often stays up late for his clients.)

I think I just realized something: I know (partly) why Nolan chose Hardy to be Bane. His short stature is actually an asset and will probably figure into the story -- who the hell WOULDN'T underestimate an incredibly buff, short guy?

EPIPHANY

[bert19]

We'll probably get a great version of Bane, but personally I might've cast Dwayne Johnson in the role. He's got major screen charisma, and I think he could be coached into producing a very convincing Bane performance.


Comparing The Rock's acting talents to Tom Hardy's is like comparing a fat man with a limp doing the 100m to Usain Bolt.
I mean have you ever really seen Johnson in a really serious villain role? Where he's surrounded with a cast like the Batman franchise has? He is nowhere near Hardy's level. After this movie, Hardy will probably be one of the hottest properties in movies. And his talent justifies that, mark my words.

It seems way more likely to me that Bane will have a pretty revamped origin. Nolan simply doesn't have as much comic book material to base his Bane on as he had for the Joker. Keep the prison bit, his physical beating of Batman (maybe not a full on back breaking, but certainly a beat down), and an intellectual besting as well.

I'd love for the film to open with a slight history of Bane, a la Magneto origin story at the beginning of X-Men. It's so hard not to make it gimmicky though..

I'm of the opinion that he can pretty much present Bane however he wants to. I mean, the Joker wasn't exactly in-line with previous presentations of the character and he has WAY more source material and history than Bane does.
I think Nolan will be quite ceative with him and given the first two films and how they went, i'm reasonably confident he'll do a good job with the character. Same with Catwoman, i don't see her being the kind of eye candy, cartoony type who you know isn't really that dangerous for Batman. I think she'll be way more of a grey area and way more interesting too.

Hardy needs to start lifting weights about six months ago to even think about playing Bane.... that beong said I hope he kicks Batmans ass and makes the plot worthwhile

He bulked up for Bronson in 6 weeks. And the real Bronson was quoted as saying he was "massive" and "bigger than I am."
I wouldn't worry too much. He won't be a 7 1/2 foot monster, but if he needs to be big, he will be.

I don't see how hardy is predictable casting for bane at all.

I have no idea how he's going to play the part.

Given Nolan has chosen Hardy, I'm almost certain there's going to be much, much more to Bane than just the very strong muscle element.
Hardy is very good at playing pretty pychotic or psychopathic characters but often brings a sense of charm and entertainment to them. Bronson is a good example of this, but also check out the tv series 'The Take' if you can where he plays a drink-fuelled, drug taking, womanising villain/gangster type.
He'll bring alot to the role, i'm certain of that.

[malnat11]

What if Bane Looked like this?


http://www.filmshaft.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/the-collector-poster.jpg

[thewhyteman]

^ Im not seeing anything.

[Gianakin_]

^ Im not seeing anything.

Invisibane.

[thewhyteman]

I see what you did there.

[Prison Mike]

What if it's the Gotham Police Department that hires Bane to take out Batman (without Gordon's knowledge of course)?

[MiniBond]

What if it's the Gotham Police Department that hires Bane to take out Batman (without Gordon's knowledge of course)?

I went silly for a minute and envisioned a scenario pretty much similar to all the steven seagal's flicks: the ultimate badass fellow jailed for life and taken out by the authorities for a single purpose...kicking the nuts of the bad guys..... just replace bad guys by batman here :woot::woot:

[BatFan88]

They can create much good story's with the villians they have chosen.But there will be 3rd villian.

[sglass03]

Does anyone think Bane might wear a half-mask type thing, a la Dolarhyde in Manhunter/Red Dragon? Seems like a Nolan-esque thing to do, making him less luchador and more crazed psycho.

(Not pantyhose, obviously, but something similarly-shaped, only covering half his face.)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Francisdolarhydemanhunter.jpg

[Nathan]

I really hope he gets his full mask, that eventually tears in the battle.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4863/bane24.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/bane24.jpg/)

[Gianakin_]

Yeah, me too.

[Stelze]

I don't know if this has been discussed already, but what's with venom?
I think Nolan should leave that out.
He should have that creative freedom of changing the character that bit.
Idk, but the whole venom thing always bugged me somehow, don't ask me why, I really don't know.

I'm sure for many of you that would be like the perma-white vs. make-up debate that was going on back then.
Well at least to me it's not what makes the character so interesting.

[Nathan]

But Venom is what he uses. It would be like leaving out all of Batman's gadgets. I don't mind if he adjusts the Venom to fit into his World he created, but leave it out completely?

[JStorm]

But Venom is what he uses. It would be like leaving out all of Batman's gadgets. I don't mind if he adjusts the Venom to fit into his World he created, but leave it out completely?

My guess, Nolan won't use some super-serum that morphs Bane into BANE. I bet it will be some DNA-alteration-surgery that Bane has previously had, in which he is already some superbadass.

[ronny]

I think Bane is going to break Gordon's back. There simply is not enough time to sufficiently show the whole Knightfall arc of Bruce being defeated and then coming back to face Bane. We've got to get enough time for Catwoman, all the existing characters. It's too cluttered to have Batman actually be 'broken'.
But Gordon is a different story in my opinion. And in some of the newer comics he does walk with a cane, does he not? Sure, that was from a bullet wound. But what if Nolan changed things a little?

I think having Bane destroy such a beloved character would be preferable to trying to fit in this massive rdemeptive storyline. This film is about Batman redeeming himself, whereas Knightfall is him at his lowest ebb. The Joker already dragged Batman to his lowest point, it's time he went on the offensive.

But Bane can still cause him a lot of problems by targeting people like Gordon. What do you think?

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

What if he breaks his own back? :ninja:

[Nathan]

My guess, Nolan won't use some super-serum that morphs Bane into BANE. I bet it will be some DNA-alteration-surgery that Bane has previously had, in which he is already some superbadass.

I wouldn't want Bane to be a superbadass throughout though. And I don't mind if he removes the part about the Venom transforming him into a hulking beast. I think it should still be some kind of serum he injects, that temporarily boosts his strength and stamina.

I'd leave the forearm device, remove the tube to the brain entirely and have needles housed in the device, that inject the serum directly into his bloodstream.

[Savage]

Yeah, venom is what makes Bane Bane. It's his unique trademark as a member of Batman's rogues gallery. Even Black Mask has his mask. Take away Venom and he's just a really smart criminal with a mask.

I proposed this idea in the thread that got closed but how about venom altering more than just his strength. What if the serum makes him Batman's superior in every physical department as well as making him smarter. A total steroid for the self. It could be used as part of why he's addicted to it. It actually helps him think clearer. Just an idea is all.

I gotta read up on recent Bane. I have no idea how he's making it without Venom. Batman at least uses gadgets as tools. What does Bane have without venom?

[ronny]

I think Bane should be on Venom but should grow bigger and more grotesque throughout the film. So by the end he really does look like a freak, with pounding veins and stretchmarks. It should be a pretty constant thing, he should evolve throughout the movie.

[JStorm]

I wouldn't want Bane to be a superbadass throughout though. And I don't mind if he removes the part about the Venom transforming him into a hulking beast. I think it should still be some kind of serum he injects, that temporarily boosts his strength and stamina.

I'd leave the forearm device, remove the tube to the brain entirely and have needles housed in the device, that inject the serum directly into his bloodstream.

I really don't care how the serum is done, if any. But the hulking-idea I just can't wrap my head around either. I'm sure Nolan has a great idea and once in theater, it will all make since.

[Nathan]

A total steroid for the self. It could be used as part of why he's addicted to it. It actually helps him think clearer. Just an idea is all.

I'd like it if he's addicted to Venom to the point, he actually needs it to even function properly. And without it, he gets your typical withdrawal symptoms that other drug addicts display.

[Nave 'Torment']

Don't forget about that old guy at the table when Joker made the pencil disappear. That's definitely Penguin! :oldrazz:

Definitely :oldrazz:

And don't forget Gambol - he's probably Black Mask! On account of his... sorry that was unintentionally racist :doh: I should stop.

[Paste Pot Pete]

I think you either do the full Batman back break or you don't.

By the time the movie's released, even those previously unfamiliar with Bane will know him as "the guy who broke Batman's back."

To do anything less than that - break his arm, etc - will look like Nolan's pulling his punches.

[Nave 'Torment']

In all seriousness, I do wish we could have seen Nolan's version of Penguin. The character needs to some serious redemption after Burton's Batman Returns. :csad:

There wasn't anything wrong with The Penguin in that movie! But yeah, I'd love to see how Penguin would be like in Nolan's universe. Maybe they could do something in another animated anthology, like they did with Deadshot in Gotham Knight.

[Nathan]

I'm just not sure if one movie is enough to pull off the whole back breaking and recovery.

[JStorm]

I think you either do the full Batman back break or you don't.

By the time the movie's released, even those previously unfamiliar with Bane will know him as "the guy who broke Batman's back."

To do anything less than that - break his arm, etc - will look like Nolan's pulling his punches.

Agreed. Average Joe may not go looking, but I can see a certain group thinking "Bane. . I remember him. . , " then taking a peak into Wiki and truly remembering.

Same theory with Doomsday. Anyone who was able to remember the 90's knows that name. . hell, it was in the papers: "Superman is dead!"

[Marx]

There wasn't anything wrong with The Penguin in that movie! But yeah, I'd love to see how Penguin would be like in Nolan's universe. Maybe they could do something in another animated anthology, like they did with Deadshot in Gotham Knight.

Burton's Penguin was a freak with webbed hands that lived in an underground 'zoo' lair and ate raw fish. Not to mention he bled green goo when he died. There was quite alot wrong with him.

[Octoberist]

The reason why I don't Bane breaking Batman's back is simple: Regardless how long it takes realisticlly or not, it still means that Bruce is out of commission for lenghty period of time in the film. With this being Nolan's last Bat flick, you don't want to pull what Spider-Man 3 did to James Franco: Have him in the side lines for the majority of the film despite his arc.

[ronny]

So have him break Gordon's back. That would be a happy compromise, right?

[Nathan]

I'd leave the whole back breaking for the climax. Have him attempt it, lifting Batman over his head and when he's about to break his back, have Catwoman intervene and save Batman.

[Octoberist]

Maybe..