Official '24' Season 5 Discussion Thread!

[Matt]

With the new season 2 weeks away I think it's time to begin the official discussion thread. Especially with the new preview on Fox.com.

The season looks great. It looks like Audrey may be in charge of CTU...which is...strange...I wish they brought back Erin Driscoll. She had potential.

[Red]

Why would Audrey be incharge of CTU?

[Matt]

Why would Audrey be incharge of CTU?

Well, Bill Buchanan has Chapelle's job, so I doubt he'd step down to run CTU LA which would be a huge demotion...Audrey is the only other official we saw with Buchanan in CTU in the preview. It seems like she at the very least works there.

[GoldenAgeHero]

no way in hell audrey can be in charge of ctu, shes not the take charge kinda chick.

[Darthphere]

Isnt Sean Astin the head of CTU now?

[Pyro Man]

no, he's not even on the show till episode 4. I found this on a spoiler site: (http://www.24spoilers.tvheaven.com ):
SPOILERS



Season Premiere Info

What’s it called?
7:00 A.M.- 8:00 A.M.
Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is said to be credited to “Buffy the Vampire Slayer”/“Angel” vet Howard Gordon.
Does Jack start out with that hoodie-Cobain look he sported in the season-four DVD’s 10-minute season-five prequel?
He does not. Jack starts the season looking pretty much the way he does in Fox’s season-five promos.
Season one began with a plane crash. Last season began with a train crash. What action sets the plot in motion this season?
Within the first five minutes, a sniper’s bullet pierces the brain of one of the world’s most famous political figures. A character we’ve met before this season will cradle this political figure’s brain matter and skull fragments.
The big news?
In the first 20 minutes, a woman we’ve met in a prior season will die. A character we met in season one will witness her death.
Have Edgar and Chloe and Curtis gone the way of Milo?
No fewer than 12 characters from prior seasons return for the season premiere. Here are 10 of them:
07:00 DOD Vet Jack Bauer
07:05 President Charles Logan
07:05 Presidential Aide Mike Novick
07:07 CTU vet Bill Buchanan
07:07 CTU Vet Curtis Manning
07:07 CTU Vet Edgar Stiles
07:10 CTU Vet Chloe O’Brien
07:12 CTU Vet Tony Almeida
07:12 CTU Vet Michelle Dessler
07:20 DOD Vet Audrey Raines
Is it true, as reported on IMDb, that Tzi Ma is back for 5.1?
IMDb lies about 5.1. If our intel is correct, Tzi Ma does not reprise the role of Cheng Zhi in 5.1. Ping Wu does not reprise the role of Su Ming in 5.1. William Devane does not reprise the role of James Heller in 5.1. Sean Astin is not in 5.1. Sabrina Lloyd is not in 5.1. And IMDb fails to list several returning cast members who will return in 5.1, including Bill Buchanan.
But. But. Sean Astin. TV Guide said he was playing a CTU?
Astin does not appear until 5.4.
Is Chloe still working for CTU at episode’s start?
She is. In her first scene, we learn that Chloe has something in common with fellow CTU vets Jack Bauer, Chase Edmunds, Michelle Dessler, “Soul Patch” Tony Almeida, Nina Myers, Curtis Manning and Kim Bauer.
What does Chloe now have in common with Jack Bauer, Chase Edmunds, Michelle Dessler, Tony Almeida, Nina Myers, Curtis Manning and Kim Bauer?? I must know!
Chloe likes to bone the occasional CTU employee!!
Ew! Edgar??
That. Would be. Telling.
Is Audrey now working for CTU?
No. She’s just comes to visit CTU on behalf of President Logan shortly after all hell breaks loose.
Is Logan in D.C., as he was last season?
No. Like all the other returnees, he is in California.
Any new key characters TV Guide fails to mention?
Two of the biggest are First Lady Martha Logan (Jean Smart), who has a history of mental instability, and Martha’s stunning aide Evelyn (“Rapa Nui” star Sandrine Holt).
Is Milo back?
Eric Balfour was busy with that witless primetime soap about Silverlake.
Supersexy lesbian assassin Mandy? Naked cavorting?
Not in the first four.
Will this be a good episode?
One of the best ever. The stuff with the Bakersfield teenager learning of Jack’s secret identity is priceless.
How does it end, spoiler boy?
A photograph of Jack Bauer appears on a computer monitor.

[TheVileOne]

I really hope Michelle doesn't die. If she does...I might have to just stop watching.

[Pyro Man]

why? I mean I like Michelle and all but she's definetly not my favorite character. Im curious about why it affects your viewership of the show. One of my favorite characters (Palmer) is probably gonna bite, but he's not what the show is about. In my opinion 24 needs its unpredictability, for that to happen major characters need to die and anybody outside of Jack Bauer (who IS 24) should be fair game.That's just my opinion though. And I respect your opinion. Im just curious about why that would affect wether or not you watch the show.

[Matt]

no, he's not even on the show till episode 4. I found this on a spoiler site: (http://www.24spoilers.tvheaven.com ):
MINOR SPOILERS

Season Premiere Info

What’s it called?
7:00 A.M.- 8:00 A.M.
Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is said to be credited to “Buffy the Vampire Slayer”/“Angel” vet Howard Gordon.
Does Jack start out with that hoodie-Cobain look he sported in the season-four DVD’s 10-minute season-five prequel?
He does not. Jack starts the season looking pretty much the way he does in Fox’s season-five promos.
Season one began with a plane crash. Last season began with a train crash. What action sets the plot in motion this season?
Within the first five minutes, a sniper’s bullet pierces the brain of one of the world’s most famous political figures. A character we’ve met before this season will cradle this political figure’s brain matter and skull fragments.
The big news?
In the first 20 minutes, a woman we’ve met in a prior season will die. A character we met in season one will witness her death.
Have Edgar and Chloe and Curtis gone the way of Milo?
No fewer than 12 characters from prior seasons return for the season premiere. Here are 10 of them:
07:00 DOD Vet Jack Bauer
07:05 President Charles Logan
07:05 Presidential Aide Mike Novick
07:07 CTU vet Bill Buchanan
07:07 CTU Vet Curtis Manning
07:07 CTU Vet Edgar Stiles
07:10 CTU Vet Chloe O’Brien
07:12 CTU Vet Tony Almeida
07:12 CTU Vet Michelle Dessler
07:20 DOD Vet Audrey Raines
Is it true, as reported on IMDb, that Tzi Ma is back for 5.1?
IMDb lies about 5.1. If our intel is correct, Tzi Ma does not reprise the role of Cheng Zhi in 5.1. Ping Wu does not reprise the role of Su Ming in 5.1. William Devane does not reprise the role of James Heller in 5.1. Sean Astin is not in 5.1. Sabrina Lloyd is not in 5.1. And IMDb fails to list several returning cast members who will return in 5.1, including Bill Buchanan.
But. But. Sean Astin. TV Guide said he was playing a CTU?
Astin does not appear until 5.4.
Is Chloe still working for CTU at episode’s start?
She is. In her first scene, we learn that Chloe has something in common with fellow CTU vets Jack Bauer, Chase Edmunds, Michelle Dessler, “Soul Patch” Tony Almeida, Nina Myers, Curtis Manning and Kim Bauer.
What does Chloe now have in common with Jack Bauer, Chase Edmunds, Michelle Dessler, Tony Almeida, Nina Myers, Curtis Manning and Kim Bauer?? I must know!
Chloe likes to bone the occasional CTU employee!!
Ew! Edgar??
That. Would be. Telling.
Is Audrey now working for CTU?
No. She’s just comes to visit CTU on behalf of President Logan shortly after all hell breaks loose.
Is Logan in D.C., as he was last season?
No. Like all the other returnees, he is in California.
Any new key characters TV Guide fails to mention?
Two of the biggest are First Lady Martha Logan (Jean Smart), who has a history of mental instability, and Martha’s stunning aide Evelyn (“Rapa Nui” star Sandrine Holt).
Is Milo back?
Eric Balfour was busy with that witless primetime soap about Silverlake.
Supersexy lesbian assassin Mandy? Naked cavorting?
Not in the first four.
Will this be a good episode?
One of the best ever. The stuff with the Bakersfield teenager learning of Jack’s secret identity is priceless.
How does it end, spoiler boy?
A photograph of Jack Bauer appears on a computer monitor.


YOU CALL THOSE MINOR!?!?!??! That all but confirms President Palmer's death and you call it minor?

[Matt]

I really hope Michelle doesn't die. If she does...I might have to just stop watching.

I doubt it will be. I fail to see what could be served by killing her. Other than shock value, and I really hope they don't go that way. Killing someone simply for the sake of killing them is a bad thing.

[JackBauer]

why? I mean I like Michelle and all but she's definetly not my favorite character. Im curious about why it affects your viewership of the show. One of my favorite characters (Palmer) is probably gonna bite, but he's not what the show is about. In my opinion 24 needs its unpredictability, for that to happen major characters need to die and anybody outside of Jack Bauer (who IS 24) should be fair game.That's just my opinion though. And I respect your opinion. Im just curious about why that would affect wether or not you watch the show.

I was with you until you said that. they can kill anybody, but they better leave Tony alone, or I'll be pretty pissed...

[JLBats]

Michelle, does indeed die.

[Matt]

Michelle, does indeed die.

Honestly, I'll believe it when I see it. 24's crew has been known to leak spoilers and even film false takes. Since this season seems to be full of shocks, I wouldn't be suprised if everything we know is false.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I can't wait for this season.

I just finished Season 2, and I'm gonna start Season 3 in just a few minutes. This show is awesome.

[TheVileOne]

The spoiler hints say a female character from the last season dies in the first episode. Its got to be Michelle.

:(

[JLBats]

The spoiler hints say a female character from the first season dies in the first episode. Its got to be Michelle.

:(

She was introduced in season 2.

[Pyro Man]

no it says someone from a prior season, it's a character from season 1 who sees it happen.

[TheVileOne]

Sorry, I meant from the last season.

So its obviously Michelle, and that sucks.

[Kingfish]

could be chloe. or erin driscoll. who knows?

[TheVileOne]

All the signs point to it being Michelle.

[Kingfish]

after all the drama they went through at the end of season 4 with tony and michelle? i'm not banking on it.

[TheVileOne]

EXACTLY after all the drama. That's why they'd do it! Cause 24 does stuff like that!

[Matt]

I'm still not entirely sure these spoilers are accurate. Since this season seems to rely heavily on shock value, I could see multiple takes being filmed of several characters deathes and certain ones being leaked intentionally.

24 cast and crew are known for their intentional misdirection. Remember last season? Carlos Bernard said in an interview that Tony dies in the finale. Tony is alive and well, post-finale though.

It really wouldn't suprise me if our legs are being pulled.

[TheVileOne]

I never remember Bernard saying that.

[GoldenAgeHero]

you guys are spoiling the show for yourselves.

[TheVileOne]

Its all part of the fun GoldenAgehero. Besides its not like we know how EVERYTHING is going to go down.

I guarantee you about halfway through things are going to go in reversal or shift dramatically. The "threat" early on probably won't even be the real threat by the end of the season.

Also,

As for the Bernard thing, I didn't hear Reiko Aylesworth say she was going to die early on this season. So I'm not taking that argument into account.

[Matt]

I never remember Bernard saying that.

He said it on the TV guide channel...he was really coy about it. He didn't directly say it, but he was alluding to it big time, sort of like "A woman from a previous season will die while someone from season 1 watches"...only person who fits the description is Michelle...which is why I doubt the spoiler. It is vague without being vague, almost intentionally trying to be vague, and the same **** Bernard was doing last season.

[The Batman]

I really wanna see Jack and Tony shooting up ALOT of people.

I think michelle and palmer bit the big one, especially since dennis haysbert is on another TV show now.Its still a shame to see them go.

As much as i'm excited, this season really just seems like shock, shock, shock....

[Matt]

Its all part of the fun GoldenAgehero. Besides its not like we know how EVERYTHING is going to go down.

I guarantee you about halfway through things are going to go in reversal or shift dramatically. The "threat" early on probably won't even be the real threat by the end of the season.

Also,

As for the Bernard thing, I didn't hear Reiko Aylesworth say she was going to die early on this season. So I'm not taking that argument into account.

It's simply an example of how the crew uses misdirection and false information. Reiko Aylesworth doesn't have to say it for the point to be valid. It is simply showing an example of the crew and cast doing it in the past.

[Shifty]

Well the worst kept essentially is that Palmer dies. I was hoping that it appeared he died and then later we discover he barely survived or was brought back to life. But doesn't look good. Michelle will go to because the writers of 24 want the viewers to know that 24 is still 24, anyone can go. Which sucks since both wer great characters, especially Palmer.

Anyone click on the the theme song on the main page? Gets you in the mood. http://www.fox.com/24/ There seems to be a couple tracks.

[TheVileOne]

It's simply an example of how the crew uses misdirection and false information. Reiko Aylesworth doesn't have to say it for the point to be valid. It is simply showing an example of the crew and cast doing it in the past.
We are not talking about the cast and crew here though.

[Movies205]

I wonder it's going follow the same formula they usually follow where there's a minor threat in the beginning then it ties into a huge threat a quarter of the way through...

[amazingfantasy15]

Just saw a new commercial with Chloe shooting at someone like she actually knows what she's doing now, must've had some training while Jack was away. Damn I can't wait for the new season.

[Kingfish]

He said it on the TV guide channel...he was really coy about it. He didn't directly say it, but he was alluding to it big time, sort of like "A woman from a previous season will die while someone from season 1 watches"...only person who fits the description is Michelle...which is why I doubt the spoiler. It is vague without being vague, almost intentionally trying to be vague, and the same **** Bernard was doing last season.

how doesn't Chloe fit this descripton?

[Lt. Figgnuts]

We are not talking about the cast and crew here though.

Spoilers generally come from cast and crew, or at least people who are somehow connected to someone on the cast or crew...and sometimes they leak false spoilers to throw people off. It's not a new tactic.

[JackBauer]

how doesn't Chloe fit this descripton?

for that matter, how doesn't Audrey fit this description?

[Matt]

how doesn't Chloe fit this descripton?

Honestly, she doesn't fit it because the character kicks it in the first ten minutes. In the trailer for Season 5 we can see Chloe being interrogated by CTU, talking on the phone to Jack, etc...I really doubt CTU finds out Jack is alive, she calls Jack, CTU captures her, interrogates her, and she dies all in ten minutes.

[TheVileOne]

Its Michelle guys, face it.

[Kingfish]

Honestly, she doesn't fit it because the character kicks it in the first ten minutes. In the trailer for Season 5 we can see Chloe being interrogated by CTU, talking on the phone to Jack, etc...I really doubt CTU finds out Jack is alive, she calls Jack, CTU captures her, interrogates her, and she dies all in ten minutes.

oh but i thought 24 was all about misdirection and leading people down the wrong path into thinking things are gonna happen when they aren't really going to?

Its Michelle guys, face it.

youre writing her off way too quick there dude.

[JLBats]

No, it really is Michelle.

Anyway, this is starting to sound like an awesome season, particularly with the promise of nerve gas being shipped in a SWAT van later on.

[Matt]

45 minutes to go.

[Matt]

Also, remember, not everyone is on the same time zone or will be seeing the show when you do, so be curteous, use spoiler tags. If you don't know how, you simply type between two boxes like this. [spoiler] [/spoile r] (don't put a space between the e and the r, I just did that so it would show an example without making the spoiler highlight.

[GoldenAgeHero]

goddamnit the football game is gonna block the show. motherfreakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[GoldenAgeHero]

goddamnit, goddamnit . i hate football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Goddamn football.

[GoldenAgeHero]

hahaha the west coast aint gonna be seeing it.

[Golgo-13]

^Ditto!

[GoldenAgeHero]

its starting right nownyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

this is awsome guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[GoldenAgeHero]

haha jack is a miner

[Pyro Man]

Goddamn football, I'm going to personally assassinate the fox executives lol. (j/k so if that happens later this week i had nothing to do with it). And aww... poor west coast, never getting to see stuff *sighs* ive often wondered what it would be like to here the words except for in front of my coast... lol.

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh shnit!!!!!!!!!! he got shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Spoilers, man! Not everyone is watching right now.

That said...there goes Palmer. :(

[GoldenAgeHero]

ohhhhhhhhh my goawd. he was so awesome.

[Pyro Man]

Holy ****!!!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

He will be missed.

[GoldenAgeHero]

woah never saw chloe as that type of chick!

[Pyro Man]

Wow... they meant it when they said the threat would hit the ground running and there would be no slow building. Minutes... not episodes... I like that lol.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah man it was like 5 minutes and bam gone!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

that kid should get shot, cant belive has the balls to get an attitude with jack.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Let's get some spoiler tags, guys...not everybody is watching right now.

[GoldenAgeHero]

michelle is soo hawt!!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

Let's get some spoiler tags, guys...not everybody is watching right now.

i dont have time to put spoiler tag!

[GoldenAgeHero]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

[Pyro Man]

HOLY ****!!!! lol

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Holy ****in' ****! Michelle!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

i dont have time to put spoiler tag!

It's common courtesy, man. Not everyone is watching right now, it's not fair that they'd stumble into something they don't want to see.

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh my gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

Holy ****in' ****! Michelle!

oh gawd the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 she was sooo hot

[Pyro Man]

lol [spoiler]

[Golgo-13]

Killing Michelle is the biggest mistake they made.....

[GoldenAgeHero]

who can be behind this? seems like thier wiping out everyone who was close to jack?

[GoldenAgeHero]

commando jack to the rescue

[Pyro Man]

Well whoever it is sure wants jack out of hiding and oh Why is killing Michelle such a horrible mistake? The whole idea is to kill anybody knowing Jack is still alive. I think a bigger mistake would be killing Tony but thats just me. Don't get me wrong I like Michelle and all... it's just like I've said before, anybody but Jack should be mortal.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Killing Michelle is the biggest mistake they made.....

yeah man, she was hawt. im kinda pissed.

[Pyro Man]

yay crazy ladies!... *sigh*

[GoldenAgeHero]

whos this witch, the chick did her hair and she ruined it?

[GoldenAgeHero]

i think this chick plays a key role, logans wife that is.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I'm still reeling from Palmer and Michelle.

[POWdER-man]

The fact Tony is still alive shows that he still has a big role to play in this season.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i know that kid was gonna be trouble!

[TheVileOne]

Told you guys Michelle was going to die.

It sucks though. It really pisses me off they did this.

[GoldenAgeHero]

ok whats up with all the crazy ladies. first it was drischolls daughter and now this wacked out job! itll be funny if the president had her commited.

[POWdER-man]

I'm still reeling from Palmer and Michelle.

I know...:( It was like blam....and as soon as one was gone you knew that others will follow.

[Pyro Man]

why is everybody so pissed about Michelle dying again? Im sorry I'm just not understanding it... 24 gets part of its unpredictability back and people get pissed if Michelle didn't die how was Tony supposed to get into the game? really...

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Well, when a character that people like die, the people who like the character get pissed. It's natural. I'm a little bit pissed myself, because I liked the character.

[Pyro Man]

and as for the kid... Jack should've just put a cap in him as soon as he saw Jack clock the guard. *sighs* lol

[Pyro Man]

I liked the character as well, but I loved the first one more (my second favorite character) and Im accepting it just fine. I guess I understand though, if Jack died or Tony even I'd probably be pretty pissed too.

[GoldenAgeHero]

hahaha jack cut that dude down

[GoldenAgeHero]

hahahah jack is moi boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[GoldenAgeHero]

hahaha i love it how chloe listens to jack!!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

ohhhh snap!!!!!!!!!!!11 bwhahaahhahaahhaha dude got caped!!

[Pyro Man]

YEAH!!! dark jack is back!!! lol

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Did he ever really leave?

[Master Chief]

I feel like an idiot for not watching 24 since the beginning now. :(

[POWdER-man]

I didn't realize we have a play by play commentary in this thread...:rolleyes:

4 posts in a row = unnecessary.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Did he ever really leave?

what do you mean, he doesnt work for stu no more. he's on his own, except chloe will help him. chloe really respects jack and trusts him. i like that about her character.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I didn't realize we have a play by play commentary in this thread...:rolleyes:

4 posts in a row = unnecessary.


im sorry man, i thought more people would be posting. and hey if football commentators can do it why cant i?

[GoldenAgeHero]

omg they framed jack

[Pyro Man]

im sorry man, i thought more people would be posting. and hey if football commentators can do it why cant i?

I agree with that statement.

[GoldenAgeHero]

jack baur is like mcguyver but bloodier and hardcore.

poor jack, he really cared for palmer.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I feel like an idiot for not watching 24 since the beginning now. :(

Yeah, I'm really glad I was able to catch up with the DVDs.


what do you mean, he doesnt work for stu no more. he's on his own, except chloe will help him. chloe really respects jack and trusts him. i like that about her character.

What I mean is...Jack has always been badass. "Dark" Jack never really left, so he can't be back.

[GoldenAgeHero]

this is awesome, palmer's brother is in the loop with jack now,yeah!!!

[Nightwing]

This season is going to kick ass.

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh oh. damn edgar!! gawd wathing this all state commercial makes miss palmer

[Pyro Man]

indeed.

[GoldenAgeHero]

This season is going to kick ass.

what really sucks is that the cut it to half a year. but i guess it build enticipation up more and gives writers more time to be creative. when the show is over these writers should right comics. imagine batman is baur but not using guns.oh yeah!!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn it!!!!!!! he's screwed but we all know hes gonna escape. that was awesome, poor chloe, not shes gonna be interrogated like a suspect.

[Nightwing]

what really sucks is that the cut it to half a year. but i guess it build enticipation up more and gives writers more time to be creative. when the show is over these writers should right comics. imagine batman is baur but not using guns.oh yeah!!!

Heh.

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn i cant belive theres only 16 minutes left.

[Pyro Man]

and Jack has that wonderful "damnit chloe" look on his face again lol.

[Pyro Man]

behold charles logan and his incredible phone call altering device!!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh oh theres a conspiracy theory now. awesome!! so what do you think logan has planned pyro? you think he's a shady character? or that other guy his ta or whatever he is. not the vp, the other guy.

[Golgo-13]

I think Logans wifes memory has the 'time' in which Palmer called her messed up, so they pulled the wrong phone conversation.

I love Chloe as a field agent!....

[Master Chief]

I think Logans wifes memory has the 'time' in which Palmer called her messed up, so they pulled the wrong phone conversation.

Haha.

I hate cliff hangers like that, can't wait 'til tomorrow. :(

[Pyro Man]

hmm... i was actually just joking about Logan... he's not smart enough to pulloff anything like that. At least thats what I think... lol

[POWdER-man]

No actually they just showed who was the inside man...he altered the tape before the president heard it...

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn i hate this. the show is about over and its just getting to the climax argghh!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

hahaha i knew it walt was behind it bastard!!!!

[Pyro Man]

so... overall what did everyone think? me? I loved it

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah i loved it too, man!!! i wish they didnt add the kid.

[GoldenAgeHero]

oh gopd geekasem from watching the preveiws, cant breate cant spell, oh gawd!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

nvm

[Master Chief]

I wouldn't mind these multiple posts if you'd just treat them like this were a paper for college or something. :(

[Gamma Ray]

David! Michelle! Tony! :(

Looks like this is going to be an intense season. Tonights episodes were amazing.

[Golgo-13]

Loved the Chloe part-undoutably she's my favorite character since her debut in season 3.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/sag/sag_awards_2005_photos/mary_lynn_rajskub/sag3.jpg

Tomorrow looks like Jacks backed with CTU-kinda liked the whole "Jacks the bad guy angle" but hey.....

...why did they kill Michelle? Her hotness justified her presence....
http://www.southcn.com/ent/celeb2/elisha%20cuthbert/news/200409231141_795464.jpg

[Matt]

Great start to what could very well be the best season yet! It is definitely off to the best start of any 24 season.

May President Palmer and Michelle Dessler Almedia rest in peace. Saddest deathes in TV history :(

Also, I can't believe Walt is the mole. Isn't he Logan's attorney general and the one who gave secret service the order to kill Jack last season?

[Matt]

Loved the Chloe part-undoutably she's my favorite character since her debut in season 3.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/sag/sag_awards_2005_photos/mary_lynn_rajskub/sag3.jpg

Tomorrow looks like Jacks backed with CTU-kinda liked the whole "Jacks the bad guy angle" but hey.....

...why did they kill Michelle? Her hotness justified her presence....
http://www.southcn.com/ent/celeb2/elisha%20cuthbert/news/200409231141_795464.jpg

Michelle is definitely hot. Sometimes Chloe is, other times, not so much. At any rate, Chloe was great on the premiere.

Y'know what's depressing, Tony, Jack, and Kim are the only regulars from the original cast who are still alive. :(

[Golgo-13]

I wouldn't say it was the best season opening..season 4 was a bit above this one. The death's made it impactful, loosing characters all '24' fans had grown to love, so quickly made it memorable....

[bored]

So was I not the only one with the words "holy ****" running through my head for the first thirty minutes?

[Matt]

I wouldn't say it was the best season opening..season 4 was a bit above this one. The death's made it impactful, loosing characters all '24' fans had grown to love, so quickly made it memorable....

I disagree, season 4's opening dragged until the end when Audrey and Secretary Heller were kidnapped.

[Nivek]

I've watched some of the previous seasons openers, but this ones got me hooked hardcore. I gotta watch it tommorrow as well.


:up:

[bored]

Meanwhile, this one kicks you in the balls and laughs about it. You have to wonder how many more seasons they'll be able to get out of this.

[Golgo-13]

I disagree, season 4's opening dragged until the end when Audrey and Secretary Heller were kidnapped.
I disagree. The suspense within the Behrooz household also gradually built up the tension during the premier.....

[POWdER-man]

Meanwhile, this one kicks you in the balls and laughs about it. You have to wonder how many more seasons they'll be able to get out of this.

"24" Season 150 - Jack Bauer finally dies from old age and faces Satan.

[bored]

Satan, frightened, backs down after five episodes and asks Jack to help him stop Hitler from detonating a nuclear bomb.

[AmazinUncleBen]

That was just incredible.

[Shifty]

Well how many times have they tried to kill David Palmer? Fourth time is the charm. I knew sadly that Palmer and the sexy Michelle were joining Chappelle, Mason, and Walsh from the second ever episode of 24. Actually, their deaths were exactly like Walsh's in that we didn't expect a friend of Jack's to die so short into the season. I actually laughed when the show went to the clock, since it had only been 15 minutes. I was thinking that the characters might get another scene, and they would have a final moment, that's what shocked me and I enjoyed it.

It took balls to fake Jack's death and it took even bigger balls to do what they did tonight. They got some new writers (from Lost) consulted with an author, it seemed like 24 but it didn't. But in a good way. Its the same characters, same location, and everything but its great to watch 24 again. I'm just amazed that its the fifth season and way back before Jack even stormed into the Gaines Compound there was talk of cancelation.

Its back to conspiracies but of course along with moles, workplace tension, action scenes, parking lot scenes, a stupid teenager and high stakes (but maybe not as high last year's).

For once Global's simulcast wasn't a annoyance, since they skipped the post game show and ate some commerical time so 24 wouldn't be too delayed. Then I watched the ending again on Fox to see the previews. I've got class Monday nights, I just hope the nothing screws with the VCR.

Michelle is definitely hot. Sometimes Chloe is, other times, not so much. At any rate, Chloe was great on the premiere.

Y'know what's depressing, Tony, Jack, and Kim are the only regulars from the original cast who are still alive. :(

Secret Service Agent Pierce is still alive. Besides being Palmer's go to guy, he was also head of security during season one's first attempt on David Palmer's life. While not a 'regular', he's gotta be upset with what's happened. Actually he does appear soon

[GoldenAgeHero]

is thw show confirmed for another season? i think the show will stay alive for a seventh season, but it really depends on what the writers can pull out of thier asses. that the seveth season would surpass all previous seasons.

[Shifty]

is thw show confirmed for another season? i think the show will stay alive for a seventh season, but it really depends on what the writers can pull out of thier asses. that the seveth season would surpass all previous seasons.

During season four because of the great ratings, Fox signed 24 for two more seasons (so there would be six seasons of 24). Then they'll probably shift over to movies. I remember Sutherland on Kilborn during the first and he was asked how long will the show go and he said the writers have ideas it could go to six. It seemed silly to say at the time, but even after these episodes, a sixth or even seventh episode will just make it even harder for the writers.

[Pyro Man]

Technically only two of the orignal cast members are still alive. Tony was listed as guest all the way throught the first season. However, if you mean characters that appeared in the first episode only three remain.

[AmazinUncleBen]

Technically only two of the orignal cast members are still alive. Tony was listed as guest all the way throught the first season. However, if you mean characters that appeared in the first episode only three remain.


What about Mike Novic...he's not really in every episode, but he's been hangin around since season 1.

[Brian2887]

Is it just me, or did anyone else notice some framerate problems, especially in low-light or when characters moved quickly. Maybe they switched to digital this year.

Other than that, brilliant start. This is going to be a good season.

[Pyro Man]

EDIT: Double post

[Pyro Man]

Mike Novick didnt appear in the first episode, he made his first appearance about half way through the first season.

[Nightwing]

Cant wait for tomorrow's continuation.

[Gamma Ray]

On another note, did anyone notice Chloe's tattoo?

[Nightwing]

On another note, did anyone notice Chloe's tattoo?

She had one? Hmm...I didnt notice it.

[Golgo-13]

I hope that 'terrorist' that's orchestrating the attack on the airport is not inside CTU. He looked like he is, as he stood in front of some big monitors watching over things. Like i said, i hope this is not the case as this is exactly what they did in season 3, with Giel (can't spell his name) and it would be so predictable.

We know who the mole is at the white house already, but who is the mole in CTU? Remember the head terrorist said "Let CTU get him (Jack), we'll get him once CTU has him in custody".(or something to that effect). That indicates to me that someone inside CTU is a mole also.

I have a funny feeling that when curtis gets to the oil refinery, the bodies will have already been removed, making Chloes story questionable...

Last season was great but the lack of twists made it feel different, i hope this season has more twists.....

[Matt]

I hope that 'terrorist' that's orchestrating the attack on the airport is not inside CTU. He looked like he is, as he stood in front of some big monitors watching over things. Like i said, i hope this is not the case as this is exactly what they did in season 3, with Giel (can't spell his name) and it would be so predictable.

We know who the mole is at the white house already, but who is the mole in CTU? Remember the head terrorist said "Let CTU get him (Jack), we'll get him once CTU has him in custody".(or something to that effect). That indicates to me that someone inside CTU is a mole also.

I have a funny feeling that when curtis gets to the oil refinery, the bodies will have already been removed, making Chloes story questionable...

Last season was great but the lack of twists made it feel different, i hope this season has more twists.....

To be fair, Giel was not really a terrorist, but just the same, it would be rehashing. I think they want long time fans to think he is in CTU...but in reality, he is not.

[Matt]

Oh and just for the record,

Logan is a tool, he's a tool, he's a tool, he's a tool, tool, tool of a tool. He is an unbelievably huge tool.

Here's hoping for his assassination before the season ends! Or at the very least his resignation in shame.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Palmer was a much better president.

Damn, now I feel like crying again.

[The Batman]

I didn't realize we have a play by play commentary in this thread...:rolleyes:

4 posts in a row = unnecessary.

I know. I had to wade through 4 pages of idiots making multiple posts with one sentence comments. And damn...we're watching the episode...you dont have to repeat whats already happened

[WorthyStevens]

Wouldn't it be a kick in the ass if Kim came back this season and turned out to be a mole? Or even Chase?

[Matt]

Wouldn't it be a kick in the ass if Kim came back this season and turned out to be a mole? Or even Chase?

Not really, as it would make no sense. In fact, even if they had a brilliant explanation for it, it would still suck.

And you don't need to put spoiler tags over speculation that will never happen.

But just for the record, Jon Cassar has already confirmed Kim WILL be back this season once she finds out Jack is alive. No word on whether or not Chase will be with her.

[Pyro Man]

I hope that 'terrorist' that's orchestrating the attack on the airport is not inside CTU. He looked like he is, as he stood in front of some big monitors watching over things. Like i said, i hope this is not the case as this is exactly what they did in season 3, with Giel (can't spell his name) and it would be so predictable.

We know who the mole is at the white house already, but who is the mole in CTU? Remember the head terrorist said "Let CTU get him (Jack), we'll get him once CTU has him in custody".(or something to that effect). That indicates to me that someone inside CTU is a mole also.

I have a funny feeling that when curtis gets to the oil refinery, the bodies will have already been removed, making Chloes story questionable...

Last season was great but the lack of twists made it feel different, i hope this season has more twists.....

SPOLIER (i guess)

I think that the guy by the big screens is the billionare guy villain that's been mentioned on some sites. Doubt he'd be in CTU. He's just really rich, has alot of connections, and alot of big tv's and nothing to do with them

[GoldenAgeHero]

I know. I had to wade through 4 pages of idiots making multiple posts with one sentence comments. And damn...we're watching the episode...you dont have to repeat whats already happened


like i said if football comentators can gtet away with it, i can too. dont like it then dont post here.

[0neDisturbedSOB]

Holy s**t man, the first 5min of that show were incredible. I can't believe the twists and turns the show has already taken in just 2 EPISODES. I do like the plot though, the only thing I didn't like is how Jack, err Frank is still living in Ca and he's supposed to be completely hidden in seclusion. One would think he would've fled to Mexico, or at least somewhere out of the state.

All in all the new season is off to a good start.

[Electro UK]

I'm glad I read these spoilers... or I may have gone into some sort of break down when the episodes view in UK...:(

[POWdER-man]

like i said if football comentators can gtet away with it, i can too. dont like it then dont post here.

The only difference is that it's welcomed in football, and they conribute useful and insightful facts and information.....so I guess it's completely different to what to you do.....

I don't consider saying....."hahaha jack cut that dude down......hahahah jack is moi boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!1...........hahaha i love it how chloe listens to jack!!!...................ohhhh snap!!!!!!!!!!!11 bwhahaahhahaahhaha dude got caped!!..............oh gopd geekasem from watching the preveiws, cant breate cant spell, oh gawd!!" in multiple posts as useful information, just so you can increase your post count.

If you want to contain in it in one post that's fine, but I am sure I am not the only one who doesn't like sifting through 50 posts to find something worth reading.

Back on topic...I doubt that this villain is the "main guy', he's probably a middle man who possibly works for CTU and the "real" villain is to be determined.

I am looking forward to this evening as it should be good. Unfortunately my station didn't show any previews so I am completely in the dark for this evening.

[Shifty]

Technically only two of the orignal cast members are still alive. Tony was listed as guest all the way throught the first season. However, if you mean characters that appeared in the first episode only three remain.

Naked Mandy is still alive remember. I doubt she'll return this season though after her season two and four appearences.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

But just for the record, Jon Cassar has already confirmed Kim WILL be back this season once she finds out Jack is alive. No word on whether or not Chase will be with her.

I haven't seen Season 4, so don't spoil too much for me, but did they ever explain what exactly happened with Chase and his hand?

I do like the plot though, the only thing I didn't like is how Jack, err Frank is still living in Ca and he's supposed to be completely hidden in seclusion. One would think he would've fled to Mexico, or at least somewhere out of the state.

I'm pretty sure that, at least in the Season 4 DVD prequel, which takes place maybe six months before the first hour of Day 5, Jack is living in Chicago or in the area, because that's where it takes place. After that prequel, Jack relocates back to California.

[Golgo-13]

Does anyone know what's in those suringes that 'Richards' uses? You know Richards, CTU's silent torturer. He injects something into suspects and causes them intense pain. Does anyone know what he's actually using?

[Golgo-13]

Sorry double post.

[Carter]

I think in addition to being a truth serum, sodium pentathol causes intense pain

[Golgo-13]

Sodium Pentathol is painless, so that can't be it Carter.

[GoldenAgeHero]

why would you wanna know? you can get a gf another way.

[Nightwing]

20 more minutes.

[Gamma Ray]

Logan is a tool, he's a tool, he's a tool, he's a tool, tool, tool of a tool. He is an unbelievably huge tool.



I think Logan is a mirror image of George Bush.

[Compi716]

15 minutes till the second episode...

[Gamma Ray]

RIP David Palmer

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/10/26/images/medium/FLO_0_ta26guyz_171721_1026.jpg


RIP Michelle Dessler

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/fox/24_photos/reiko_aylesworth/24.jpg


Get well soon Tony Almeida

http://www.24-italia.it/foto/cast/carlos_bernard_tony_almeida/cb_011.jpg

[Matt]

I haven't seen Season 4, so don't spoil too much for me, but did they ever explain what exactly happened with Chase and his hand?


No, but if I'm not mistaken, Jon Cassar confirmed it was reattached

[The Batman]

like i said if football comentators can gtet away with it, i can too. dont like it then dont post here.

No, you cant get away with it. You're not john madden or jim freaking ross. They do play by play to inform viewers, you do it because you're acting like a little girl who just got tickets to a backstreet boys concert

[Gamma Ray]

I heard they gave his a very technologically advanced prosthetic:

http://ciudad.latinol.com/nwo/anakin_arm.jpg



:D

[GoldenAgeHero]

ist time!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

ok so now were on break. im a little let down, nothing radical happened yet, so thats good. what do you guys think of logan's wife? is she gonna play a key role in this season?

[The Batman]

damn, just shut up...

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn, just shut up...


make me.

[Pyro Man]

holy crap did she just try to make a fake sexual harrassment plea?!?!? lol

[GoldenAgeHero]

holy crap did she just try to make a fake sexual harrassment plea?!?!? lol

ahaha yeah i laughed my butt off at that scene. and im pretty missed kiefer didnt win a globe for 24. he lost out to that actor who plays dr. house on well house.

[Pyro Man]

House is good too and I believe that Kiefer already won his golden globe (cant remember).

[Pyro Man]

HA HA i love pierce lol

[Lackey]

damn, just shut up...


I have to agree.

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn, logans secretary is an a$$. gripping stuff.

[Pyro Man]

I have to agree.
yep

[Pyro Man]

oh and happy 100th episode 24...

[GoldenAgeHero]

ahahahha i love the addition of sean's character. this is hilarious! this episode is leaving me nauscious

[Lt. Figgnuts]

No, but if I'm not mistaken, Jon Cassar confirmed it was reattached

Interesting...wonder if he'll pop up this season. He was a pretty cool character. "Jack Jr.," if you will. Didn't he and Kim get married off-screen?

why would you wanna know? you can get a gf another way.

No need to be an ass, man.

[GoldenAgeHero]

Interesting...wonder if he'll pop up this season. He was a pretty cool character. "Jack Jr.," if you will. Didn't he and Kim get married off-screen?



No need to be an ass, man.

dude that was a joke. sweet lord.

[roach]

kick ass so far

[Lt. Figgnuts]

dude that was a joke. sweet lord.

I realize that.

Just wasn't funny in the slightest.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I gotta say, I don't like how Derek and his mom are already referring to Jack as...well, Jack. I mean, yes, Jack is his name, but they know him as Frank, and it wouldn't be easy for them to just stop thinking of him as Frank.

[GoldenAgeHero]

wow, i knew walt was gonna pull a stunt to shut her up. i bet they'll disregard her accusations, saying she has a physc problem. and i just saw the preveiws cant wait till next week.

[Gamma Ray]

Prez. Logan is such a freakin' dumba**. It's so frustrating.

So this season they're using nerve gas... Cool!

[Matt]

I'm not sure what to make of McGill. So far he seems like the show's new Chapelle. Well, he seems a bit more competant than Chapelle (picking up on the Flank 2 code)...but for the most part he seems like a bueracratic ass.

Last season, if I'm not mistaken, Bill Buchanan had Chapelle's job, correct? So why did he step down from it? Why would Buchanan have taken a demotion from Division to CTU LA? Then again, with Tony and Michelle out of the game and Driscoll unlikely to want to return to CTU LA due to what happened, maybe he was the only choice? But what about Curtis? I actually wouldn't mind seeing Driscoll again this season, I liked her.

Anyway, it seems like the threat for Season 5.0 (first half, as there are usually two major threats per season) is going to be nerve gas. However, I wonder where they will go for Season 5.5? I don't think the guy in the computer room is the main threat, but more of an Ira Gaines type villian.

Next week it also looks as though Jack is going to break out of CTU custody and be on the run (with the aide of Mike Novick?)...I'm relieved to see he isn't getting cleared so easily, especially since the tag line is "To the world Jack Bauer is dead...but soon he will become the world's most wanted man."...I'm looking forward to seeing a manhunt for JAck and the tagline fulfilling it's promise.

[Matt]

Prez. Logan is such a freakin' dumba**. It's so frustrating.

So this season they're using nerve gas... Cool!

Nah, nerve gas won't be the season threat...it'll just be the early threat.

[Gamma Ray]

LOL! Yeah, the show does really have a system. The first threat is always resolved in the first four episodes. Take last season for example. Audrey and her father were rescued so quickly and then they learned of another threat.

Anyway, Sean Astin hasn't really done anything too incredible for the show yet. It was strange how he just showed up.

Hopefully there will be some more cool deaths to keep us happy throughout the season.

[Matt]

Interesting...wonder if he'll pop up this season. He was a pretty cool character. "Jack Jr.," if you will. Didn't he and Kim get married off-screen?


I believe Chloe mentioned something about it to Jack at the beginning of last season.

[Matt]

LOL! Yeah, the show does really have a system. The first threat is always resolved in the first four episodes. Take last season for example. Audrey and her father were rescued so quickly and then they learned of another threat.

Anyway, Sean Astin hasn't really done anything too incredible for the show yet. It was strange how he just showed up.

Hopefully there will be some more cool deaths to keep us happy throughout the season.

Well, Division usually does send someone when the threat gets too heavy (Chapelle got sent whenever it escalated to the final threat during seasons 1-3...earlier in Season 3 because they set up for his death). Buchanan got sent last season during the melt down threat (which was fairly big)...and since this day started off with a massive threat (President Palmer's death)...division sent Rudy...I mean McGill.

[Gamma Ray]

I believe Chloe mentioned something about it to Jack at the beginning of last season.

Yes. They got married and live together in... Santa Barbara I think...

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Well, Division usually does send someone when the threat gets too heavy (Chapelle got sent whenever it escalated to the final threat during seasons 1-3...earlier in Season 3 because they set up for his death). Buchanan got sent last season during the melt down threat (which was fairly big)...and since this day started off with a massive threat (President Palmer's death)...division sent Rudy...I mean McGill.

Maybe the threat for 5.5 will be some kind of nuclear weapon, or something equally as dangerous, and McGill and Jack have to team up to take it to a volcano to destroy it...and maybe they'll later be joined by Chloe (possibly Edgar), who've become addicted to the plutonium used to power the weapon, calling it "their precious"?

...sorry. You know someone had to do a LOTR joke...I figured I'd take one for the team.

[amazingfantasy15]

Kim and Chase never got married, they were just living together. Kim will be in this season and she has a new boyfriend, who is said to be very controlling.

Good premiere for 24, this season is off to a fast start, I was really suprised at the turn they gave for the First Lady, cool stuff. The President's aid is gonna get caught very soon, the terrorists reacted too quickly to the info he gave. Jack's gonna put that together quickly. Also Rudy got sent to CTU on behalf of the White House. I'm really rooting for another Presidential assasination this season, Logan is just such a horrible president, he needs to be taken out of office.

[Gamma Ray]

Kim and Chase never got married, they were just living together.


Oh. That's probably what caused the split!

[Movies205]

I like Sean Astin, he's a cool character. He's just playing things by the book, I mean even if Jack did all this stuff he still has stuff to explain and also I'm sure the Chinese will still want him... There's a lot of **** that's got to be sorted through...

[amazingfantasy15]

Yeah, once the Chinese realize he's back, the $#!t's really gonna hit the fan. I expect that to be a pretty big part of the show.

[Shifty]

I'm not sure what to make of McGill. So far he seems like the show's new Chapelle. Well, he seems a bit more competant than Chapelle (picking up on the Flank 2 code)...but for the most part he seems like a bueracratic ass.

Last season, if I'm not mistaken, Bill Buchanan had Chapelle's job, correct? So why did he step down from it? Why would Buchanan have taken a demotion from Division to CTU LA? Then again, with Tony and Michelle out of the game and Driscoll unlikely to want to return to CTU LA due to what happened, maybe he was the only choice? But what about Curtis? I actually wouldn't mind seeing Driscoll again this season, I liked her.

Anyway, it seems like the threat for Season 5.0 (first half, as there are usually two major threats per season) is going to be nerve gas. However, I wonder where they will go for Season 5.5? I don't think the guy in the computer room is the main threat, but more of an Ira Gaines type villian.

Next week it also looks as though Jack is going to break out of CTU custody and be on the run (with the aide of Mike Novick?)...I'm relieved to see he isn't getting cleared so easily, especially since the tag line is "To the world Jack Bauer is dead...but soon he will become the world's most wanted man."...I'm looking forward to seeing a manhunt for JAck and the tagline fulfilling it's promise.


Yeah the head of CTU LA seems really messed up. Jack was in charge during season one, Mason who I believe worked for District during season one then became head of CTU during season two, Tony and Jack both shared duties but Jack was in charge of the field during season three, Driscoll for season four and now Bill. Which means he probably won't have the job at the end of the season. :down But why is it whenever someone from District or Division arrives they're a douche? Chappelle, Alberta Green, Brad Hammond, Nothing can top Mason going after Jack in season one, though.

Another two great episodes. I love 24.

As for China, I could see them declaring war on America.

[Gamma Ray]

Now that I've thought more about it, at least last season and season one also had an unlikely accomplice who managed to escape during CTU's raid and then became the primary person whom CTU was searching for.

Last season it was the guy Audrey recognized and in season 1 it was that buisness man with the bad heart who Jack punched in the chest which resulted in his death. According to the "24 Plan", the guy who managed to escape the airport should end up being found and then immediately dying... Then Jack will yell "DAMN IT!". :)

[Golgo-13]

Good episodes. I'm surprise Jack didn't mention to Curtis that there has to be a Mole somewhere in CTU or whatever, that's how his position got compromised. I think that once the chinese know he's alive-like others have said-**** will really hit the fan. And, if there's gonna be a sixth season-Jack will go to jail at the end of this season, as i can't see him living happily ever after...

[Golgo-13]

Also the actor that played Derek did a hell of a job 'looking scared' right before he was about to be executed. Now that's acting!

[Matt]

Good episodes. I'm surprise Jack didn't mention to Curtis that there has to be a Mole somewhere in CTU or whatever, that's how his position got compromised. I think that once the chinese know he's alive-like others have said-**** will really hit the fan. And, if there's gonna be a sixth season-Jack will go to jail at the end of this season, as i can't see him living happily ever after...

Well,it could be, that Jack is under the assumption that Derek cracked and said he was there.

[JackBauer]

Just wanted to leave a quick note, without reading any other posts, that I, of all people, still haven't been able too watch the premiere :(

I'll watch the first three hours tonight and the fourth tomorrow though. very much looking forward to it. I'll post my thoughts as soon as possible. :up:

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Good episodes. I'm surprise Jack didn't mention to Curtis that there has to be a Mole somewhere in CTU or whatever, that's how his position got compromised. I think that once the chinese know he's alive-like others have said-**** will really hit the fan. And, if there's gonna be a sixth season-Jack will go to jail at the end of this season, as i can't see him living happily ever after...

I dunno if that'll be a focus this season, but I can see it being a major role next season. I think it would be weird to have a terrorist threat until about episode 12, and then all of the sudden it's about Jack trying to fix things between China and America. Wouldn't make much sense to me, you know?

[amazingfantasy15]

"I'm surprise Jack didn't mention to Curtis that there has to be a Mole somewhere in CTU or whatever, that's how his position got compromised."

"Well,it could be, that Jack is under the assumption that Derek cracked and said he was there."

The previews showed Jack confronting Novick about a possible mole. Jack just hasn't didn't the time to put everything together in last night's episode, on his way back to CTU he'll put it together. That or Jack already does suspect, but wants Curtis to focus finding the fake hostage and he'll go after the mole himself. Jack was watching Derek most of the time and the terrorist had a lot more information than Derek would know, so I don't think he suspects Derek had anything to do with him getting caught.

[GoldenAgeHero]

whoever mentioned jack mending relations betwee china and america has an idea there. maybe it can play a role inn sea son six.

[bored]

So who else thinks Curtis was basically CTU's Jack-in-waiting? It struck me as that. Last season, who was one of the new characters, but he was almost as much of an unstoppable badass as Jack, and now he seems to be one of the head field agents.

[amazingfantasy15]

Curtis was the number two person in CTU last season (well after Jack's replacement bit the dust in hour two or three). I think Curtis has Jack's old position of head of field ops this season.

I really don't think China's gonna let the U.S. slide for a while once they find out Bauer's still alive. His actions last season were an act of war and a former President helped to fake his death to get out of the situation. I think the terrorists are planning to leak that Bauer's still alive to help cover up their actions.

[JLBats]

24 is back. Those 4 episodes were easily season 1 and 2 caliber and blew seasons 3 and 4 out of the water.

[Golgo-13]

Well,it could be, that Jack is under the assumption that Derek cracked and said he was there.
Give Jack more credit than that, he's alot smarter. Jack observed the terrorist come off the phone, walk over to his labtop then jam Jacks communication with Curtis. It makes no sense for him not to realise that the phone call is what gave away his position....maybe they'll get into it next week......

...well it's obvious that the airport roose was a diversion to cover up the drilling/digging than revealled those nerve gas canisters....

..and like i said before Jack ending up in prison at the end of the season is the perfect logical way to end it. The big happy ending for Bauer is, well, not in 24 fashion. I'd like to see CTU pardon him or whatever then think he's o.k and left with Derek and his mom, and then the chinese covertly abduct him like they did that other agent in season 4...then open season 6 with jack imprisoned a year or two later...sounds good to me anyway!:up:

Oh, i have a quick question: I was watching season 4 on A&E yesterday morning and they are on the episodes where Sarah is tortured by richards because Marianne has planted evidence on her server and they all think she is the mole. I can't remember-where is Chloe during all this? I know she's in seaon 4 but i watched 3 episodes yesterday and didn't see her at all, and i can't remember where she was....don't have it on dvd yet either....

[AshtonFoster]

Great start to the season!!
One thing confuses me though....Probably because it hasnt been explained, or I just totally missed something. But how did the terrorists, or anyone for that matter outside Palmer, Chloe, Michelle, and Tony, know that Jack was alive in the first place?? Obviously one of them must've told someone, and the information some how made it's way to the terrorists. Correct? And in that same vain, how did the terrorists know that Palmer, Chloe, Michelle, and Tony, we're the ones that knew about Jack's cover up?? Are we lead to believe that Palmer was the one who leaked the info??

[amazingfantasy15]

Chloe was fired at the time for helping Jack track the terrorist. Just the first of many examples why going by the book is a bad idea.

As for how the terrorists knew about Jack, it's revealed in the teaser on the season 4 DVD, someone hacked into Chloe's system and learned that Jack's autospy was faked. Obviously someone wasn't totally convinced and did some digging of their own, the scary part is that the terrorists are tech savvy enough to get past Chloe's computer defenses.

[Golgo-13]

Chloe was fired at the time for helping Jack track the terrorist. Just the first of many examples why going by the book is a bad idea.
Oh, that's right..then they called her back in to help. Thanks!:up:

Great start to the season!!
One thing confuses me though....Probably because it hasnt been explained, or I just totally missed something. But how did the terrorists, or anyone for that matter outside Palmer, Chloe, Michelle, and Tony, know that Jack was alive in the first place?? Obviously one of them must've told someone, and the information some how made it's way to the terrorists. Correct? And in that same vain, how did the terrorists know that Palmer, Chloe, Michelle, and Tony, we're the ones that knew about Jack's cover up?? Are we lead to believe that Palmer was the one who leaked the info??

Damn good point! I didn't even think about that!
It had to be one of the 4 that knew....maybe someone found out through Tony and Michelles business? The client who was on the phone with Tony when Michelle got killed?....i'm just fishing...but good point dude. I hope it's not a plot hole.

[JackBauer]

okay, right now, I can only say four words: OH MY F***IN GOD!!! :eek:

it they keep this up, they might just have the best 24 season ever!! :up:

[AshtonFoster]

Damn good point! I didn't even think about that!
It had to be one of the 4 that knew....maybe someone found out through Tony and Michelles business? The client who was on the phone with Tony when Michelle got killed?....i'm just fishing...but good point dude. I hope it's not a plot hole.


LOL...Good to know I wasnt the only one thinking that. But amazingfantasy15 cleared it up in the post above urs:
"As for how the terrorists knew about Jack, it's revealed in the teaser on the season 4 DVD, someone hacked into Chloe's system and learned that Jack's autospy was faked. Obviously someone wasn't totally convinced and did some digging of their own, the scary part is that the terrorists are tech savvy enough to get past Chloe's computer defenses." Funny thing is, I watched that trailers.....I just tTOTALLY forgot about it! Ha

[Golgo-13]

But why hack into Chloes system to start with? It just seems a little too convienient and co-incidental.

[ultimatefan]

God, I still have to wait till march... Nevermind, the greatest "I´ll get my hands dirty if I have to" action hero of the new millennium is back!! Go Jack!

[JackBauer]

God, I still have to wait till march... Nevermind, the greatest "I´ll get my hands dirty if I have to" action hero of the new millennium is back!! Go Jack!

man, I tried waiting till march... but after almost a whole year of waiting I just couldn't. the urge to DL it was just too strong. but BOY, am I glad I cracked! :D

[ultimatefan]

man, I tried waiting till march... but after almost a whole year of waiting I just couldn't. the urge to DL it was just too strong. but BOY, am I glad I cracked! :D
I think about it... But now I got me a big screen TV and watching 24 to me is like seeing a cool as hell movie on TV!

[GoldenAgeHero]

did you guys know that over 35 million people watched the premiere. damn!!! you can see it at the 24 website.

[ultimatefan]

did you guys know that over 35 million people watched the premiere. damn!!! you can see it at the 24 website.
Yeah, now that Fox has finally learned how to schedule that show, it´s becoming a phenomen. You don´t make pre-emptions for a show like 24, you have to keep the eps coming to keep the adrenaline rush and anticipation. Here in Brazillian Fox we watch two eps in a row, always a new ep each week since season one, that´s how you watch 24!

[Gamma Ray]

24 is the best show on TV. No question.

[Matt]

Holy hell, 35 million? If I'm not mistaken that is more than Desperate Housewives. Friends season premieres only got about 25.5 million viewers. 35 is a lot.

[Shifty]

Holy hell, 35 million? If I'm not mistaken that is more than Desperate Housewives. Friends season premieres only got about 25.5 million viewers. 35 is a lot.


That's Fox twisting the truth. Again. They did that last season. They took Sunday's ratings and Monday's ratings and combined them since they've hyped it as the 24 Premiere. So 35 million people watched 24 on Sunday Jan 15th and Monday Jan 16th but ABC could say over 50 million watched Desperate Housewives (on Sunday Jan 8th and Sunday Jan 15th).

You can see that Sunday's two episodes found themesleves in the top 15, I think in the top 10 for the first time. Of course the football game helped, but after 4 seasons on DVD its about time it got a large audience.
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|||weekly2,00.html

[GoldenAgeHero]

bump

[Golgo-13]

So that's how they knew (the terrorists) Bauer was alive...Spencer!

But do you think Chloe actually told him in the heat of passion, or he hacked into her files...?

[Master Chief]

I'm in the middle of season one and watching season five, homg, 24 overload. :(

[GoldenAgeHero]

i doubt chloe told spencer anything, shes not the type, the dude used her to gain such access. like all us guys do to woman. :)

[GoldenAgeHero]

jack went all kung fu on his a$$!!

[GoldenAgeHero]

damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wanted to see jack get his hands on walt. this was a pretty good episode, kept the adrenaline pumping here and there. do you guys think, the president's wife is gonna get to jack? walt hinted that they should commit her before she finds someone who would belive her, and i think that someone is jack!!!

[Gamma Ray]

I called it was Spencer! I'm so good at this.

Sick episode today. More exciting than the last four, IMO. I loved when Jack pushed the scissors into the assassin. That was awesome!

[Master Chief]

Heh, I wonder if 24 could still be as exciting if they steer away from espionage and Jack. I remember reading something in the paper last week about following different people each season.

[amazingfantasy15]

That was an amazing episode, another classic Jack line "I'm not CTU, I'll go after Walt Cummings myself".

Also the conversation between Audrey and Jack's new girl was great, basically slapped her in the face without realizing it.

Sean Astin's character is really growing on me fast, very smart and able to read between the lines.

[Gamma Ray]

But the character hasn't done anything to justify hiring Sean Astin. Just my opinion of course. And there's still time.

[Gamma Ray]

I made this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/swcgphotos/owned.jpg

[amazingfantasy15]

That's great!

[TheVileOne]

In the season 5 prequel, Jack met with Chloe and Chloe told Jack someone hacked into her files and found out that Jack was still alive. Who ever found out could've been associated with Cummings or sold the information to him.

[TheVileOne]

edit, dp.

[AmazinUncleBen]

Great episode as always, I can't wait for the interaction between Mike and Jack and hopefully Jack getting his hands on Walt.

[amazingfantasy15]

I think we've pretty much confirmed it was Spencer that hacked into Chloe's system.

[amazingfantasy15]

gotta give credit to Chloe too for not letting her emotions get in the way of her job (not that I was ever concerned, it is Ms. Personality herself after all), connected the dots of Spencer's status as a mole pretty damn quickly.

[Gamma Ray]

That, or she talks in her sleep. :)