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triplet

04-03-2006, 12:39 PM

Oh...

I loved that story too. :D

I have Identity Crisis too... hence the confusion in my brain. Maybe I need more caffeine.

:D

BaK

04-03-2006, 01:14 PM

All very good points. I like what you've said. :up:

My answer to this is, they want Lana to find out in a dramatic fashion and for it to mean something to her as well. This is almost as much her journey into the woman she becomes as it is Lex and Clark. And anyone that wants to dispute that should look at the credits each week.

Its pretty obvious that both Clark and Lana still love each other, however deep those feelings run, and most viewers would want to know why they both dont end up together. I would be dissatisfied if the only explanation they offered us is because that's not the way it is in the comics. Having said that, I dont think it can be a choice or a decision that Clark makes alone.

Lana needs to go through this next arc and experience whatever it is the writers are going to feed us for her to truly understand who Clark Kent is and why Lex Luthor is his arch enemy.

If they had left Lana knowing after Reckoning, at that point in time I dont think she would have fully understood Clark Kent. She loves him and thinks of him as a good person, but who he is goes much deeper than that.

I also think that the writers may have something pretty heroic planned for her to do to more or less compensate for the loss of JK. Just a hunch I could be completely wrong.

After all this has happened we will see Clark and Lana in a completely different relationship.
i like your posts better all the time :up: :)

NateGray

04-03-2006, 01:23 PM

I'm afraid so.

To my knowledge, she had broken up with him already. And telling someone you don't love her, doesn't mean you hate her! Maybe she could put in the balance the countless time he has been there for her, or saved her life?

He hasn't done anything terrible to her, other than telling her he doesn't love her anymore! Thousands of people do that on a daily basis, particulary young people. And they are not cruel, horrible monsters! Many of them manage to still love and respect each other as friends afterwards.

But then she's all ready and willing to trust Lex. Serve her right!

Exactly! That's not Clark and that's the whole point. Hypnotised Clark is not Clark, like red!K Clark is not Clark. Clark would never steal, threaten people, disregard his parents... When he's not on redK he can control his negative feelings, as every normal person would. But he was not being himself!

And no, he was not an automaton, and that's exactly why his behaviour changed depending on what he was doing, who was he talking to, how close the source of his confusion was... When he was apart from her, he seemed more like himself, when she was near he was more affected by her. To make him an automaton would have been the easy choice, but then he wouldn't have fooled people so easily. I think Tom conveyed the "I'm still Clark but not quite" portrayal to perfection!

I see you did! :lol:

See and you mentioned the weakest part of the whole weak axx plot
People under hypnosis will NEVER do anything against there moral fiber like say kill someone or say have sex with someone knowing it could say KILL them.

This episode was a let down to me and I normally defend the show because they do sucha great job showing Clark grow in moral fiber and in this episode he threw it all away with the way he broke up with Lana.

There were a million ways they could have broken them up that could have left the fans knowing he was breaking up with her for the right reasons.
We got this crap instead sad really.

NateGray

04-03-2006, 01:28 PM

Good point! Lana will eventually understand and appreciate the lengths that Clark went to, sacrificing his own happiness, in order to make her happy.

So when is she supposed to you know forgive him because all I see from her towards Clark ever again with the way he treated her is hatred.
Kinda defeating that whole there friendship will grow part huh!

Tron5000

04-03-2006, 02:24 PM

Sorry if this has already been answered, but I don't really feel like reading 30 pages to look, so here: What was up with the multiple Fines at the end of the episode???

Mike_D202

04-03-2006, 02:29 PM

Nobody knows. My guess is to "get work done faster".

MJZ

04-03-2006, 03:29 PM

avidreader

04-03-2006, 04:05 PM

i like your posts better all the time :up: :)

Thanks. :)

So when is she supposed to you know forgive him because all I see from her towards Clark ever again with the way he treated her is hatred.
Kinda defeating that whole there friendship will grow part huh!

Well first of all she has to get out from under Lex's grasp. He's pretty much got her to a point where he can manipulate her, torture her, blackmail her and love her.

Once she's got that out of the way it will give her the opportunity to see Clark for who he really is and what he has done to protect her and why.

I'm still of the mind that Lana's going to find out something in Void, not necessarily the whole secret, but something that will draw her closer to Lex and further down the line what I've said above.

Super_Ludacris

04-03-2006, 04:10 PM

So what. I don't care if she learns or not. She's not part of Clark's life when that truth becomes important.

You dont really read superman stuff do ya:o

Serene

04-03-2006, 05:09 PM

Because to understand that man in the cape who could fly -- all I needed to know was Clark."
- Lana Lang

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/cry.gif

"Superman For All Seasons" (1998)
By Jeph Loeb[/indent]

THAT's how I think they should end the show - or something pretty close to it, anyway.

*sniff*
I love that.

I also love the panel from Superman Action Comics #800:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4245/letter51ql.jpg
(thanks BaK)

Whiteflag

04-03-2006, 05:27 PM

For those keeping score.. Whiteflag and I have worked things out in PM, but I should publicly apologize for my harsh reaction to her comments.

Let the Peace, Love, and Tommy-lust return...

Thank you so much, Serene!

Peace, Love and Tommy-lust sound wonderful to me! :)

(Beautiful panel you linked! Beautiful words! )

The Sage

04-03-2006, 06:22 PM

*sniff*
I love that.

I also love the panel from Superman Action Comics #800:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4245/letter51ql.jpg
(thanks BaK)

Here's 3 more:

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6205/supermanactioncomics800p18hgwe.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1041/supermanactioncomics800p19hgwe.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8631/supermanactioncomics800p20hgwe.jpg

GothicPowerMix1

04-03-2006, 09:46 PM

Serene

04-03-2006, 10:08 PM

Just thought of another potential Plot Hole about this Episode. At the end we know Simone dies. But what happens to the thing that she used to pretty much tell People what to do / think ? Surely Lex would have taken that nice little item. I do not see him giving it up. If we never hear any mention of it again. Plot Hole :o
It was destroyed...into little itsy bitsy pieces. Not even Luthorcorp Special SuperDuper Glue made by the "best scientists" was putting that puppy back together. ;)

http://oxoniensis-art.com/caps/sv/516/hypnotic_477.jpg
^Now that's one perfectly aimed bullet!

http://oxoniensis-art.com/caps/sv/516/hypnotic_478.jpg
^LOL! Look at the drops of blood mixed in with the shards of the Hypno-gem.

http://oxoniensis-art.com/caps/sv/516/hypnotic_479.jpg
caps credit to Oxoniensis-art.com.

The Sage

04-04-2006, 12:19 AM

Lana will find out, but I don't think it'll happen to the end of the series.

If she found out now then that'd make it impossible for Clark to ever end up with Lois down the road. The "secret" is the only source of conflict between them--once that gets cleared up they'd be off happily ever after, theoretically.

It makes much more sense to do it the way they did in the comics.

I've been thinking about this. They'd live happily, but not entirely.

Here's the thing:
Lana loves Clark.
Lois loves Superman

Lana fell in love with the normal farmboy who lived next door. If she learned his secret, she'd accept it and him, and while she understands his need to help people, she deep down wants a normal life. That's one of the reasons for their break up in the comics. Lana wanted to live in smallville, have a family, kids and all.

Clark on the other hand, the more he acts as a hero, the more he embraces his destiny, the less chance of that normal life happens. It's Clark's normal looking self that Lana falls for. It's the superpowered selfless abnormal champion that Lois falls for. So if Clark and Lana were to be together with the secret not between them in Smallville, it would work. It's just that the more Clark embraces his destiny, the more apart he and Lana becomes.

When she wants him, he could be off saving someone. He could run into foes who could incapacitate him, and that could be too much for her to bear. But Clark knows he has to help the world, and sadly he would need to leave Smallville to do it. And that's too much for Lana.

It could work. It would take Clark miraculously caring about his heritage. Lana learning brings closure, but opens another door.

See, Lois wouldn't mind the stuff Superman goes through. She's a reporter who puts her life in risk to get a story. A normal life she doesn't lead, or really want. That's what attracts her to Superman, that's what puts him above all the other guys she's been with. He's nor normal, and he's selfless. In the sense, they're the perfect mates.

Just my thoughts.

MJZ

04-04-2006, 12:42 AM

I've been thinking about this. They'd live happily, but not entirely.

Here's the thing:
Lana loves Clark.
Lois loves Superman

Someone thinks he's Elliot S! Maggin...

A fair explanation, but Lana in Smallville isn't Lana from the comics.

I think Reckoning illustrated the "what if" quite well. They'd have every reason in the world to get married. If they were concerned about Lex's meddling then as a married couple they'd have less to worry about--I doubt Lana would be sneaking off to the Luthor Estate for some friendly "counsel..." Heh.

Now, I'd love to see them reveal it early and run with it, but it just wouldn't work IMO.

These final 2 seasons need to get away from the angst and focus on bigger things. Only when CK's ready to go off and become Superman would they reveal it, perhaps in the last half of the 7th season.

Who knows, at any rate.

The Sage

04-04-2006, 12:48 AM

Someone thinks he's Elliot S! Maggin...

A fair explanation, but Lana in Smallville isn't Lana from the comics.

I think Reckoning illustrated the "what if" quite well. They'd have every reason in the world to get married. If they were concerned about Lex's meddling then as a married couple they'd have less to worry about--I doubt Lana would be sneaking off to the Luthor Estate for some friendly "counsel..." Heh.

Now, I'd love to see them reveal it early and run with it, but it just wouldn't work IMO.

These final 2 seasons need to get away from the angst and focus on bigger things. Only when CK's ready to go off and become Superman would they reveal it, perhaps in the last half of the 7th season.

Who knows, at any rate.

Lana of Smallville isn't Lana of the comics, but I still think it would work. She's been shown to being selfish to a degree, so her not being able to accept Clark belonging into the world instead of just her is believeable. And while they would have every reason to get married, Clark part time life as a hero would have Lana questioning if that's how it's going to be after the vows.

tonytr1687

04-04-2006, 01:03 AM

Lana of Smallville isn't Lana of the comics, but I still think it would work. She's been shown to being selfish to a degree, so her not being able to accept Clark belonging into the world instead of just her is believeable. And while they would have every reason to get married, Clark part time life as a hero would have Lana questioning if that's how it's going to be after the vows.

Oh I think Smallville Lana could very much act like the comic Lana when the get around to her finding out his secret. Just look to Hidden where she's talking Clark on the hospital bed. She talks about how she always pulled away from him b/c she was always afraid for him while he was running around trying to save the day. So its the safe to say the same would be true if he was Superman.

The Sage

04-04-2006, 01:21 AM

Oh I think Smallville Lana could very much act like the comic Lana when the get around to her finding out his secret. Just look to Hidden where she's talking Clark on the hospital bed. She talks about how she always pulled away from him b/c she was always afraid for him while he was running around trying to save the day. So its the safe to say the same would be true if he was Superman.

And I think that could play a factor into them drifting apart if Lana knew the secret. I forgot all about that conversation in Hidden.

Serene

04-04-2006, 02:03 AM

And I think that could play a factor into them drifting apart if Lana knew the secret. I forgot all about that conversation in Hidden.

Lana: I don't even know if you can hear me, but I need you to know that from the first moment that I saw you, I knew that no one could make me happier than you. But, I also knew that you would never change. You would always be running around, trying to save the day. All those times I pushed away was because I knew this day would come.

I think she was speaking aloud her fears that he was destined to leave her.. whether by death or otherwise. Lana has huge abandonment issues and she knows that Clark is a risky man to love. He will always choose what's right over anything else, including her. And he has a bad habit of constantly putting himself in life-threatening situations.

It really is the crux of why they won't ever be able to stay together. It follows very well with the previously posted comic panels and Lana's words expressing that she knows Clark belongs to the world and not her.

Whiteflag

04-04-2006, 02:56 AM

Lana: I don't even know if you can hear me, but I need you to know that from the first moment that I saw you, I knew that no one could make me happier than you. But, I also knew that you would never change. You would always be running around, trying to save the day. All those times I pushed away was because I knew this day would come.

I think she was speaking aloud her fears that he was destined to leave her.. whether by death or otherwise. Lana has huge abandonment issues and she knows that Clark is a risky man to love. He will always choose what's right over anything else, including her. And he has a bad habit of constantly putting himself in life-threatening situations.

It really is the crux of why they won't ever be able to stay together. It follows very well with the previously posted comic panels and Lana's words expressing that she knows Clark belongs to the world and not her.

Those are very good points. :)

Super_Ludacris

04-04-2006, 05:11 AM

As far as Lana on Smallvile being different than her comic counterpart (or any interpretation) or the fact she's "changed" from the first 2 seasons, I think you have to keep in mind that the show needs to create alteration to characters and mythologies for the show to stay interesting and for it to last the 7 seasons that it looks like it will. In the end, no matter how much the writers change I still think its safe to say we will get the same conclucsion as in the comics when it comes to Clark and Lana so its nothing to worry about

grey_jeanie

04-04-2006, 05:14 AM

Super_Ludacris

04-04-2006, 05:16 AM

Then expect a lot of changes, to keep it going...and no I dont think making Metropolis is one of them

grey_jeanie

04-04-2006, 05:30 AM

Changes can be good. I suppose all good thngs must come to an end.

LEX

04-04-2006, 06:03 AM

Still no Hypnotic episode on the internet. :o

Super_Ludacris

04-04-2006, 06:10 AM

Dont use Torrent do ya?

LEX

04-04-2006, 06:15 AM

Yeah, I do.

BaK

04-04-2006, 06:19 AM

Yeah, I do.
pirate noob ?
It's all over the web man :)
Get your torrent skilz upgraded..

LEX

04-04-2006, 06:26 AM

I only found the MP4 and iPod formats. Which I can't view.

KalKai

04-04-2006, 06:29 AM

n00b.

:p

BaK

04-04-2006, 06:47 AM

I only found the MP4 and iPod formats. Which I can't view.
go to isohunt.com, do a search and thank me later :)

LEX

04-04-2006, 06:57 AM

An AVI file. Blah. :o

KalKai: Been using Azureus for two months. Damn, my n00bness is still about. :p

XwolverineX

04-04-2006, 07:02 AM

Here is the recap I'm putting in my review... I'll probably trim it some more, but it basically tells you the story.

Scientists extract blood from dead people inside a remote shack in the jungle. When Milton Fine (special guest star James Marsters) shows, they tell him it's quarantined because of a deadly virus. Fine kills the scientists, takes the blood, and sets the shack on fire before speeding off.

Clark and Lana laugh about Clark's poor dancing skills and Lana invites him over to the dorm room. It seems Chloe is doing an all-nighter at the Planet and they'll have the dorm to themselves. Still avoiding intimacy, Clark claims to have farm work to he has to do instead. After Lana leaves, Simone (guest star Nichole Hiltz) bewitches Clark with a magic crystal. He does anything she wants, including making out with her in the alley behind the Talon. Lois catches them and Clark introduces Simone as his new girlfriend. Lex tells Lana that he thinks Fine is the key to finding the space ship. Clark shows off his speed to Simone and she asks him to invite Lana over... Chloe and Lois talk about Clark's relationship with Simone and Chloe realizes something must be wrong. Lana heads back to the farm after she gets Clark's call. Clark shows Simone some strength and strips and makes out with her on request. Lana walks in on them and Simone orders Clark to break it off with Lana. He does and Lana is devastated.

Simone meets with Lex in the mansion, via remote (he calls in from the Luthorcorp jet on route to Honduras) and it turns out he was behind it all. He wants her to do him a "favor" in Honduras, even though she doesn't like it... Chloe confronts Clark in the barn about Simone. He defends Simone and tells Chloe to back off. Chloe manages to steal Simone's driver's license when she isn't looking. Lex meets up with Fine in Honduras and they talk about the ship and Fine's clandestine "work" with the government.

Lois and Chloe discuss Simone's powers and decide to head to the farm but Chloe grabs a green k stone before leaving. Fine shows Lex a carving of a ship a peasant made, however the peasant later died so Lex can't interview him. Fine confesses that the "government" needs his help. Lex hesitates so Fine tells him if he doesn't cooperate and help build the weapon to defend against the aliens, there might not be anything left to defend. Lois shows up at the farm but Clark is still mesmerized and is on the way out of town with Simone. Simone orders Clark to knock Lois out and then orders Clark to kill Lex.

Lois tells Chloe that Simone took Clark to the mansion. She runs off. Clark tries to kill Lex upon his return from Honduras. Lex tells Clark that Simone is a murderer and he hesitates, but Simone tells Clark to not believe Lex and kill him anyway. Clark lifts Lex up and is about the crush his larynx when Chloe shows up with that green-k. and Clark collapses, helpless. When Lex turns a gun on her, Simone orders Lex to kill Chloe and then himself. Chloe and Lex fight for his gun and it goes off. The bullet hits Simone right in her hyno-jewel. She is killed and the spells are broken. Now back to normal, Clark talks to Chloe about what happened and why Clark has decided to NOT make up with Lana.

Lana has a heart to heart with Clark and he tells her that he doesn't love her anymore. Fine drips from the ship again, like he did in Arrival, only this time he splits into four Fines... The first one tells the other three. "We need more samples." They all run off in different directions. Martha consoles Clark after his painful decision to break it off, which seemed to him to be the only thing he could do. Martha suggests that maybe Lana isn't the one for him. Also, Martha said that making Lana angry at him maybe wasn't a good idea... Lana tells Lex about breaking up with Clark. She's devastated but he consoles her by saying that maybe she put her trust in the wrong person.

Thanks a TON man!! :up:

KalKai

04-04-2006, 07:06 AM

An AVI file. Blah. :o

KalKai: Been using Azureus for two months. Damn, my n00bness is still about. :p

Use Utorrent: http://www.utorrent.com/

Possibly the best and smallest torrent client out there.

AgentPat

04-04-2006, 07:16 AM

Oh, MAN! Mr. LL, 3900 posts in one month? Holy s*****!!!! :eek: Day-um!!! LOL

Super_Ludacris

04-04-2006, 08:15 AM

An AVI file. Blah. :o

KalKai: Been using Azureus for two months. Damn, my n00bness is still about. :p

Its on mini-nova, I'll send it to you by link when I get home in about 5 hours or so

avidreader

04-04-2006, 09:30 AM

Someone thinks he's Elliot S! Maggin...

A fair explanation, but Lana in Smallville isn't Lana from the comics.

Now, I'd love to see them reveal it early and run with it, but it just wouldn't work IMO.

These final 2 seasons need to get away from the angst and focus on bigger things. Only when CK's ready to go off and become Superman would they reveal it, perhaps in the last half of the 7th season.

Who knows, at any rate.

I actually think Lana's gonna find out a whole lot about Clark in the next six episodes. Even to the point that this might be her cliff hanger for the season. That will then leave the first two to three episodes of next season to deal with the entire secret between them.

Its been building up to this all season and if Lana is to make any impression on CK's future then they're gonna have to start changing the tides.

The Sage

04-04-2006, 10:05 AM

Serene

04-04-2006, 10:54 AM

Agree with this. Will listen to Serene on this matter, I will.

LOL.. Trust me, you really don't want to listen to Serene unplugged on this matter. ;)

Thanks for those links, btw. :)

The Sage

04-04-2006, 11:47 AM

Still no Hypnotic episode on the internet. :o

Speak for yourself. I got it a few hours after it aired.:O

Super_Ludacris

04-04-2006, 12:06 PM

For real, its been sitting here on my desktop since Friday

Brainiac 8

04-04-2006, 12:51 PM

Thanks a TON man!! :up:

Actually, she's a woman.:p

GothicPowerMix1

04-04-2006, 12:56 PM

Speak for yourself. I got it a few hours after it aired.:O

I got it about 15 Minutes after it aired :up:

BaK

04-04-2006, 01:36 PM

I think she was speaking aloud her fears that he was destined to leave her.. whether by death or otherwise. Lana has huge abandonment issues and she knows that Clark is a risky man to love. He will always choose what's right over anything else, including her. And he has a bad habit of constantly putting himself in life-threatening situations.

It really is the crux of why they won't ever be able to stay together. It follows very well with the previously posted comic panels and Lana's words expressing that she knows Clark belongs to the world and not her.

Believe that's called nailing it.. :)

Yeah, her "abandonment" issues have been the leitmotiv-dominant recurring theme since the pilot..

So once she had realized how heartbreaking, devastating loosing him forever (Hidden) really feels like, she will probably, ie, they will use it as a relationship "exit strategy" for an ultimate version of comics farewell..

In a way, I do not like it, because it plays on the "she not being strong enough for that" element, which is never fair to a character, specially to her after all she's been through (and will be with Lex)..

I just hope they develop a story to the point it's some kind of "full circle" for them, meaning, they spend the best of times together - with her knowing the secret and who he really is.. :up: :)

avidreader

04-04-2006, 02:29 PM

Believe that's called nailing it.. :)

Yeah, her "abandonment" issues have been the leitmotiv-dominant recurring theme since the pilot..

So once she had realized how heartbreaking, devastating loosing him forever (Hidden) really feels like, she will probably, ie, they will use it as a relationship "exit strategy" for an ultimate version of comics farewell..

In a way, I do not like it, because it plays on the "she not being strong enough for that" element, which is never fair to a character, specially to her after all she's been through (and will be with Lex)..

I just hope they develop a story to the point it's some kind of "full circle" for them, meaning, they spend the best of times together - with her knowing the secret and who he really is.. :up: :)

I dont think it makes you weak or whatever word you want to use if you want someone to be there for you and that them running off to save the day all the time makes you stressed. Dont forget she likes to feel safe too, and she probably wont get that with Clark.

I have great confidence that they will end Clark and Lana in a very beautific manner.

BaK

04-04-2006, 02:50 PM

I have great confidence that they will end Clark and Lana in a very beautific manner.
me too :)

Serene

04-04-2006, 02:54 PM

I'm not sure about "great confidence"... but I am very hopeful. :)

WOLVERINE25TH

04-06-2006, 01:26 PM

Somebody needs to keep freakin' track of how many ups an' downs these two're gonna go through in their relationship. I swear, could we get off th' Clark/Lana angle fer ONE LOUSY SEASON?!

tonytr1687

04-06-2006, 01:32 PM

Super_Ludacris

04-06-2006, 01:36 PM

Somebody needs to keep freakin' track of how many ups an' downs these two're gonna go through in their relationship. I swear, could we get off th' Clark/Lana angle fer ONE LOUSY SEASON?!

Well they are the two lead chracters on the show, its not just a superman. Sorry guys, it is a teen show I thought you knew back in season 1. But like dude said, even then there have been like a whole seasons where they went without them.

I just think a lotta comic book fans prefer drama, sci-fi and hero storylines and Smallville is a WB show with a teen angle to boot with all the above, so there becomes a conflict of interest but this how its been all the time.

Red

04-07-2006, 12:44 PM

Hey , I been on my holidays and only caught the second half of the episode any chance someone could do a play by play for me.

Mister J

04-07-2006, 12:48 PM

Hey , I been on my holidays and only caught the second half of the episode any chance someone could do a play by play for me.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8309287&postcount=699

triplet

04-07-2006, 12:56 PM

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8309287&postcount=699

he he he....

Craig still hasn't posted my review...

I did cut that down quite a bit for my review, but the paragraphs break on the commercial breaks so that should give you an idea of what you missed in each "block" of the show.

Super_Ludacris

04-07-2006, 12:57 PM

Hey , I been on my holidays and only caught the second half of the episode any chance someone could do a play by play for me.

I can just e-mail you the episodes or something. but:mad: fileservers are being strict on what you send but yeah if you need 16 and 17 I can send em

Mister J

04-07-2006, 01:00 PM

he he he....

Craig still hasn't posted my review...

I did cut that down quite a bit for my review, but the paragraphs break on the commercial breaks so that should give you an idea of what you missed in each "block" of the show.
It was a pretty thorough review.

I always check back over after I've seen the ep to see what you, Serene, Pat and Hulk are blabbing about :up:

triplet

04-07-2006, 01:06 PM

It was a pretty thorough review.

You mean the recap you had linked to that I had posted earlier? I haven't posted the review online yet...

I always check back over after I've seen the ep to see what you, Serene, Pat and Hulk are blabbing about :up:

:D

I just might have to post my review here first if Craig doesn't publish it soon...

Mister J

04-07-2006, 01:10 PM

You mean the recap you had linked to that I had posted earlier? I haven't posted the review online yet...

:D

I just might have to post my review here first if Craig doesn't publish it soon...

Crikey! That must be a pretty intense review. Go Forward :supes:

triplet

04-07-2006, 01:21 PM

Crikey! That must be a pretty intense review. Go Forward :supes:

:D :up:

Yeah, it probably is... I hated Tom's performance, but I softpedaled it a bit....

Never know who's going to read it, after all.

The director is a hack, however (Although I didn't use that word in the review, natch.) so I don't think his problems were totally his fault. Although James opined that Tom might have been a bit under the weather still for that episode... Might be true, he was terribly sick during the filming of Cyborg and they cancelled shooting for 4 days so he could stay home and get better.

Poor baby...

I hope he was feeling okay by the time it came for him to work on Fragile.

Red

04-07-2006, 01:48 PM

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8309287&postcount=699

Thank you J and trip

I can just e-mail you the episodes or something. but:mad: fileservers are being strict on what you send but yeah if you need 16 and 17 I can send em

Thanks man

Red_X456@hotmail.com

Mister J

04-07-2006, 01:51 PM

:D :up:

Yeah, it probably is... I hated Tom's performance, but I softpedaled it a bit....

Never know who's going to read it, after all.

The director is a hack, however (Although I didn't use that word in the review, natch.) so I don't think his problems were totally his fault. Although James opined that Tom might have been a bit under the weather still for that episode... Might be true, he was terribly sick during the filming of Cyborg and they cancelled shooting for 4 days so he could stay home and get better.

Poor baby...

I hope he was feeling okay by the time it came for him to work on Fragile.
Your dedication and concern have been duly noted :D:up:

triplet

04-07-2006, 02:10 PM

Your dedication and concern have been duly noted :D:up:

:D LOL!

Red

04-07-2006, 02:23 PM

So was the episode any good?

triplet

04-07-2006, 04:35 PM

So was the episode any good?

Not really, there were some good Lex/Fine moments and a bit of good acting from tom (mostly he stunk, however) and Kristin turned in an amazing performance, but it was mostly forgettable.

I gave it 2 out of a possible 5, it wouldn't have even gotten that if Lex and Fine hadn't been in it.

Here's my review:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/hypnoticreview.htm

Edited to replace text with link....

Lara

04-08-2006, 07:10 AM

Nice review Trip and not overally harsh considering the episode was really, really bad in some parts.

Red

04-08-2006, 12:11 PM

Sounds like once again Marsters was the only thing going for an episode. Could anybody help me out get this and void, i missed both :down

Kane

04-08-2006, 12:25 PM

Sorry X. I dont have encodes of this show anymore. How could you have missed it? The show airs in canada again.

Red

04-08-2006, 12:28 PM

I was on holiday.

Well i guess its up to Super_Ludacris.

Super_Ludacris

04-08-2006, 12:29 PM

I got your e-mail today. I'm just finishing downloading Episode 17 (Damn it's taking a long time for it unusally) and then I'll send you a sendspace link to download both

Kane

04-08-2006, 12:35 PM

I was on holiday.

Well i guess its up to Super_Ludacris.

Void repeats tommorow on SPACE I think, if you have that channel.

Red

04-08-2006, 12:45 PM

I got your e-mail today. I'm just finishing downloading Episode 17 (Damn it's taking a long time for it unusally) and then I'll send you a sendspace link to download both

Thanks man, I owe you one :up:

triplet

04-08-2006, 05:35 PM

Nice review Trip and not overally harsh considering the episode was really, really bad in some parts.

Thanks... I still felt like I was pretty harsh given how much I love Tom's acting usually, but he really dropped the ball on this one.

Big time.

*sigh*

I hope his directorial debut doesn't suck... I'd hate to have to trash him again so soon.

avidreader

04-10-2006, 09:35 AM

I just wanted to add one more observation I had regarding the last scene between Clark and Lana before this thread disappeared into Cyber Space.

In the future, Clark Kent loves Lois Lane, Lois Lane loves Superman, Superman being Clark Kent finds it difficult to hide his feelings in front of Lois Lane but he wants Lois Lane to love Clark Kent because loving Superman is dangerous.

If Lois Lane walked up to Superman and said look me in the eye and tell me you dont love me, Superman would say "I dont love you". He is protecting her.

Clark Kent loves Lana Lang. However he is also this big guy who runs around and saves the day, who also has people who will stop at nothing to get to him.

I believe that this is what we're seeing with Smallville's Clark Kent. He already has this dual personality thing going on, but as we know he hasn't yet found a way to separate the two.

Clark was acting just the way Superman would in that scene.

AgentPat

04-10-2006, 10:18 AM

"ClarkKent?" LOL

avidreader

04-10-2006, 10:31 AM

"ClarkKent?" LOL

I didnt do that on purpose. I was in the middle of typing it and had to go off and do something else so I saved it in word and when I repasted it back it must have dropped the space. Why with "ClarkKent" I have no idea. Weird. :eek:

AgentPat

04-10-2006, 10:42 AM

I didnt do that on purpose. I was in the middle of typing it and had to go off and do something else so I saved it in word and when I repasted it back it must have dropped the space. Why with "ClarkKent" I have no idea. Weird. :eek:LOLOL!!! I was wondering 'cause it was throughout the post, not just once like you'd see with a typo. S'kay, I kinda like it. I thought you were making a statement - like SuperClark, or something like that. Hee! ;)

Red

04-19-2006, 06:19 AM

I don't know if this has been addressed, but weren't Lana and Clark on a break (ala Ross and Rachel) in Cyborg?

But in Hypnotic at the beginning they seem back together as a couple.

Cmill216

04-19-2006, 06:20 AM

I don't know if this has been addressed, but weren't Lana and Clark on a break (ala Ross and Rachel) in Cyborg?

But in Hypnotic at the beginning they seem back together as a couple.

One of the many oddities of the very crappy "Hypnotic". :down

avidreader

04-19-2006, 10:06 AM

I don't know if this has been addressed, but weren't Lana and Clark on a break (ala Ross and Rachel) in Cyborg?

But in Hypnotic at the beginning they seem back together as a couple.

Lana wanted to take a break but when Jonathan died she took Clark's hand at the funeral indicating that she would be there for him. Then in Vengeance she reconfirmed this to Lex. That none of the other stuff mattered (secrets and lies) she just wanted to be by Clark's side.