5.16 Hypnotic - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[KalKai]

This is all there is:

- There are scientists in this one, as is that law enforcement character mentioned from "Tomb." There is also a character named "Sasha." No further information is available at this time.

Doesn't sound so good to me, reminds me of "Delete", Season 3, hypnotizing e-mails.

[mellyM]

This is all there is:

- There are scientists in this one, as is that law enforcement character mentioned from "Tomb." There is also a character named "Sasha." No further information is available at this time.

Doesn't sound so good to me, reminds me of "Delete", Season 3, hypnotizing e-mails.
You can tell all that from 2 sentences?

[KalKai]

So far it doesn't, there's a Sasha, and the title is hypnotic, some girl with hypnotic powers, and we already had something similar in Delete.

[triplet]

how do you know the girl has hypnotic powers from that sentence?

Delete was nearly pure drek, so I doubt they'll do anything similar to that. If they do, I'll be very disappointed.

[KalKai]

Maybe she doesn't, maybe someone else does, it's still about Hypnotizm.

[Serene]

Maybe she doesn't, maybe someone else does, it's still about Hypnotizm.
Oh? You got a preview of the script? :)

Seriously.. you can't know that just based on the title. Maybe it has to do with hypnotism.. but maybe it's like their other titles and has a double meaning.

[Kane]

Maybe Mxy makes his return!!! I know how everyones missed him.

[Brainiac 8]

Maybe Mxy makes his return!!! I know how everyones missed him.

Am I the only one who liked Jinx?:confused:

Oh well, the stories have been vonderbar so far this season, so I say we give them the benefit of the doubt and see what they have up their sleeves.:up:

[AgentPat]

Am I the only one who liked Jinx?:confused:No, not at all. I liked it. And I didn't mind Mxy either. What were they gonna do? Introduce a green Leprechaun from the fifth dimension for an ep? I don't THINK so! SV is out there, but it's not THAT nuts. LOL

[Serene]

Jinx is a favorite of mine too. The scene of Clark in the locker room followed by my absolute favorite Clark/Jonathan scene... is the main reason why. Mxy didn't bother me at all. I kinda liked how he was crushing on Chloe.

[Brainiac 8]

Jinx is a favorite of mine too. The scene of Clark in the locker room followed by my absolute favorite Clark/Jonathan scene... is the main reason why. Mxy didn't bother me at all. I kinda liked how he was crushing on Chloe.

At least you two are in my corner here.:up: :)

Plus the scene where Clark superspeeds all the way to Mxy and beats him and saves Chloe and makes it back in time for a tackle. Great scene and neat to look at to boot.:D

[The Incredible Hulk]

you know what they say about assuming.... ;)

[triplet]

I loved Jinx... I thought that "dressing for battle" scene and the one with Clark and Jonathn afterwards were both great.

I coulda done without the silly eurotrash accent, but other than that I liked the way they protrayed Mxy.

[Brainiac 8]

you know what they say about assuming.... ;)


It makes an http://penut.net/images/links/donkey.jpg

out of you and me!;)

[Spider-Gamer]

I would love for Mxy to come back! :)

[mellyM]

Am I the only one who liked Jinx?:confused:

Oh well, the stories have been vonderbar so far this season, so I say we give them the benefit of the doubt and see what they have up their sleeves.:up:
Nope, I really liked it too, I probably would have stopped watching the show if a weird little imp showed up instead, lol.

[NHawk19]

this thread still wont stop the reckoning thread from taking over the forum for the next 2 months.

[avidreader]

At least you two are in my corner here.:up: :)

Plus the scene where Clark superspeeds all the way to Mxy and beats him and saves Chloe and makes it back in time for a tackle. Great scene and neat to look at to boot.:D

Make that - Triplet = 3
Melly = 4
Avid = 5

:D

I liked Mxy too. It was a realistic approach to a somewhat unrealistic character.

This episode Hypnotic. Could mean anything.

Wasnt that bee chick's name Sasha?

[Kane]

At least you two are in my corner here.:up: :)

Plus the scene where Clark superspeeds all the way to Mxy and beats him and saves Chloe and makes it back in time for a tackle. Great scene and neat to look at to boot.:D

I never watched the entire episode but that was one of the few scenes I saw and hated.... Clark was moving almost as fast as the Flash there...like he tapped the speedforce or something.

[triplet]

Make that - Triplet = 3
Melly = 4
Avid = 5

:D

I liked Mxy too. It was a realistic approach to a somewhat unrealistic character.

This episode Hypnotic. Could mean anything.

Wasnt that bee chick's name Sasha?

From Drone? Yeah, just looked it up: Sasha Woodman.

[Brainiac 8]

From Drone? Yeah, just looked it up: Sasha Woodman.

Interesting, makes you wonder.:confused:

[BaK]

At least you two are in my corner here.:up: :)

Plus the scene where Clark superspeeds all the way to Mxy and beats him and saves Chloe and makes it back in time for a tackle. Great scene and neat to look at to boot.:D

One alone that can bury all of Superman movies fx deep under..

[AgentPat]

I never watched the entire episode but that was one of the few scenes I saw and hated.... Clark was moving almost as fast as the Flash there...like he tapped the speedforce or something.What can we say? He was highly motivated. :p

In Solitude, Lionel tells Chloe [Kryptonians on Earth] can run at almost "the speed of light." Now, I'm just gonna throw physics out the window here (helicopter scene in Exposed, anybody LOLOLOL!) and take his word for it. It's fantasy. I'll live. :D

[Brainiac 8]

What can we say? He was highly motivated. :p

In Solitude, Lionel tells Chloe [Kryptonians on Earth] can run at almost "the speed of light." Now, I'm just gonna throw physics out the window here (helicopter scene in Exposed, anybody LOLOLOL!) and take his word for it. It's fantasy. I'll live. :D


I had the same funny issue with that helicopter scene as I did with a similar scene in Nocturne. We just have to forget physics sometimes in this show.;)

[Kane]

Well this show is based more off the precrisis, so maybe Clarks powers are that ridiculously powerful

[AgentPat]

Well this show is based more off the precrisis, so maybe Clarks powers are that ridiculously powerfulI love it!! :up: :D

[AgentPat]

The latest press release from The WB:

James Marsters reprises his role on SMALLVILLE as college professor Dr. Milton Fine, alter ego of the evil Brainiac, a classic DC Comics villain and one of the Man of Steel's most formidable enemies. Brainiac returns to manipulate Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) obsession with the spaceship to trick him into helping free General Zod from the Fortress of Solitude. The story arc begins with the episode "Hypnotic," which will air this spring. Marsters is well known to The WB's audience as the vampire Spike in the critically acclaimed hit series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and its successful spin-off "Angel." Marsters’ additional television credits include a guest appearance on the series "Northern Exposure," "Strange Frequency" and "Andromeda." His feature film credits include "The House on Haunted Hill" and "Winding Roads."

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20060116wb01


Brainiac is BACK!!! All hail. :D :up:




PS: I had no IDEA Marsters had a guesty on Northern Exposure. :eek:

[Kal-El 8]

The latest press release from The WB:

James Marsters reprises his role on SMALLVILLE as college professor Dr. Milton Fine, alter ego of the evil Brainiac, a classic DC Comics villain and one of the Man of Steel's most formidable enemies. Brainiac returns to manipulate Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) obsession with the spaceship to trick him into helping free General Zod from the Fortress of Solitude. The story arc begins with the episode "Hypnotic," which will air this spring. Marsters is well known to The WB's audience as the vampire Spike in the critically acclaimed hit series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and its successful spin-off "Angel." Marsters’ additional television credits include a guest appearance on the series "Northern Exposure," "Strange Frequency" and "Andromeda." His feature film credits include "The House on Haunted Hill" and "Winding Roads."

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20060116wb01


Brainiac is BACK!!! All hail. :D :up:




PS: I had no IDEA Marsters had a guesty on Northern Exposure. :eek:

YEAH BRAINIAC IS BACK & Better Than ever. Awesome news. :supes:

[Spaceballs]

WOW he comes back & asks Lex for help ? He probably bargains with Lex with telling him he will tell him Clarks Secret if Lex helps him or something

[avidreader]

The latest press release from The WB:

James Marsters reprises his role on SMALLVILLE as college professor Dr. Milton Fine, alter ego of the evil Brainiac, a classic DC Comics villain and one of the Man of Steel's most formidable enemies. Brainiac returns to manipulate Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) obsession with the spaceship to trick him into helping free General Zod from the Fortress of Solitude. The story arc begins with the episode "Hypnotic," which will air this spring. Marsters is well known to The WB's audience as the vampire Spike in the critically acclaimed hit series "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and its successful spin-off "Angel." Marsters’ additional television credits include a guest appearance on the series "Northern Exposure," "Strange Frequency" and "Andromeda." His feature film credits include "The House on Haunted Hill" and "Winding Roads."

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr.cgi?id=20060116wb01


Brainiac is BACK!!! All hail. :D :up:




PS: I had no IDEA Marsters had a guesty on Northern Exposure. :eek:

When I heard the title for this episode I had a feeling that Brainiac would be back.

[avidreader]

From Idsanty, who is the spoilers poster/moderator at DTS.

Rumour has it that James Marsters will be playing Zod. Brainaic was created in Zod's Image.That's the Rumour anyway.

[AgentPat]

WOW he comes back & asks Lex for help ? He probably bargains with Lex with telling him he will tell him Clarks Secret if Lex helps him or somethingSpaceballs, read that synop again. Brainiac manipulates Lex and tricks him. There's no "asking" involved here. It will probably be similar to what he did to Clark, except he'll use a different approach with Lex. And while Lex maybe smart, he aint Kryptonian. The only advantage Lex will have - if you can call it that - is that Lex isn't as naive as Clark. But he's also obsessed, so that will play to Fine's advantage.

This whole season has been off the hook!!! Totally amazing.

[AgentPat]

From Idsanty, who is the spoilers poster/moderator at DTS.Meh. I think Marsters has been doing an AWESOME job, and as great as he would be as Zod, I'd prefer a different actor play that character. Keep bringing Brainiac back - that's totally fine (pun intended), but lets have somebody else as Zod. Please? :(

[triplet]

Spaceballs, read that synop again. Brainiac manipulates Lex and tricks him. There's no "asking" involved here. It will probably be similar to what he did to Clark, except he'll use a different approach with Lex. And while Lex maybe smart, he aint Kryptonian. The only advantage Lex will have - if you can call it that - is that Lex isn't as naive as Clark. But he's also obsessed, so that will play to Fine's advantage.

This whole season has been off the hook!!! Totally amazing.

Awesome!

This sounds like a terrific way to bring back Fine... Can't wait to see Marsters again.

[Spaceballs]

Awesome!

This sounds like a terrific way to bring back Fine... Can't wait to see Marsters again.

I want to see Fine do this to Lex

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4299/untitled3pc.gif


:up:

You know once Lex finds out Fine USED him they get into a rumble & BAM

Although Fine has a good chance of Clark doing something similiar to him

[Kal-El 8]

Brainiac returns to manipulate Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) obsession with the spaceship to trick him into helping free General Zod from the Fortress of Solitude. The story arc begins with the episode "Hypnotic," which will air this spring.

Whoa, some just came to my mind is it possible Lex is going to get to go the Fortress Of Solitude . And if so, How is he going to Free Zod ? If I remember from "Solitude" Brainiac couldn't free Zod on his own. Only Clark/ Kal-EL could by placing the "Dark purple crystal" into the control Panel that would "Destroy The F.O.S. " & "Free Zod" .

[Spaceballs]

Whoa, some just came to my mind is it possible Lex is going to get to go the Fortress Of Solitude . And if so, How is he going to Free Zod ? If I remember from "Solitude" Brainiac couldn't free Zod on his own. Only Clark/ Kal-EL could by placing the "Dark purple crystal" into the control Panel that would "Destroy The F.O.S. " & "Free Zod" .

I bet Fine has a Plan B

[Kal-El 8]

We finally have a Solid Story Arc for (Season 5)
( Brainiac's Mission to Free General Zod.)

NOW THE REAL FUN BEGINS.

With the Return Of Brainiac Official now, It only a matter of time before Two evil Kryptonians Nam-Ek & Aethyr from "Arrival" Return

as Al Gough had promised .

We can expect an encore performance from those Kryptonian thugs who Clark sent into an extradimensional prison (one that seemed a lot like the Phantom Zone of Superman II). "I don't want to spoil it, so I'll just say that you haven't seen the last of them and Brainiac is a key to that," [reveals Al Gough ]source TV GUIDE ONLINE.

I'm looking forward to Hypnotic much more than Reckoning right now. With the news of James Marsters returning to smallville as "Brainiac" & The promise of a Story Arc (Brainiac, Lex & Zod.) My "Hype" meter is up To The MAX . :supes:

[boydston_14]

I bet Fine has a Plan B

"While flying by the seat of your pants, nothing sounds more official than a Plan B."

What kind of plan B could he have?

[GarudA]

I wonder if Brainiac will tell Lex about Clark.

[user123456789]

I wonder if Brainiac will tell Lex about Clark.

IMO braniac is too smart for that. His knowledge of Clarks secret is too great to tell to a mere human. Braniac is always looking at the bigger picture, and him taking advantage of the fact that he knows but lex doesn't will be his wild card.

[KalKai]

New spoilers..

Ask Ausiello 2/8:

Question: Now, can I please have some scoop on Alias? Or Lost. Or Smallville? Please?

Ausiello: Here's some Smallville dirt: Episode 16 is sure to be slapped with a Beef Wellington warning when a mysterious woman shows up wearing a hypnotic crystal and turns Clark into her sex slave. Naturally, Lana walks in on them just as they're about to bump humps. She'll eventually forgive him — he was in a trance, after all — but it's still the end of the road for Supercouple. After seeing how much pain hiding his true identity always seems to cause her, Clark decides that the time has come to break things off. Guess whose shoulder she cries on? If you picked Lex, you're right!

Is that woman you Pat? :O LOL :D

[Kane]

That sounds awful!

[Red X]

New spoilers..

Ask Ausiello 2/8:

Question: Now, can I please have some scoop on Alias? Or Lost. Or Smallville? Please?

Ausiello: Here's some Smallville dirt: Episode 16 is sure to be slapped with a Beef Wellington warning when a mysterious woman shows up wearing a hypnotic crystal and turns Clark into her sex slave. Naturally, Lana walks in on them just as they're about to bump humps. She'll eventually forgive him — he was in a trance, after all — but it's still the end of the road for Supercouple. After seeing how much pain hiding his true identity always seems to cause her, Clark decides that the time has come to break things off. Guess whose shoulder she cries on? If you picked Lex, you're right!

Is that woman you Pat? :O LOL :D

Now that sounds a bit silly.

[AgentPat]

New spoilers..

...Episode 16 is sure to be slapped with a Beef Wellington warning when a mysterious woman shows up wearing a hypnotic crystal and turns Clark into her sex slave....

Is that woman you Pat? :O LOL :DOMFG!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm soooooooooooo all over this episode like a baaaaad owfit!!!! LMFAO!!!!



http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wave.gifhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wave.gifhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/wave.gif

[rumpuso]

Well now...this is unexpected. A little bit of Unsafe revisited?? So we have Brainiac returning and Clark having *almost* sex.

Okay. I'm good. :)

[Red X]

Well now...this is unexpected. A little bit of Unsafe revisited?? So we have Brainiac returning and Clark having *almost* sex.

Okay. I'm good. :)

Hopefully Brainiac will have most of the screentime

[AgentPat]

Well now...this is unexpected. A little bit of Unsafe revisited?? So we have Brainiac returning and Clark having *almost* sex.

Okay. I'm good. :)http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

Doesn't get much better than that, does it Rumpuso? ;)

Hopefully Brainiac will have most of the screentimeBite your tongue, Red. :p

[Serene]

New spoilers..

Ask Ausiello 2/8:

Question: Now, can I please have some scoop on Alias? Or Lost. Or Smallville? Please?

Ausiello: Here's some Smallville dirt: Episode 16 is sure to be slapped with a Beef Wellington warning when a mysterious woman shows up wearing a hypnotic crystal and turns Clark into her sex slave. Naturally, Lana walks in on them just as they're about to bump humps. She'll eventually forgive him — he was in a trance, after all — but it's still the end of the road for Supercouple. After seeing how much pain hiding his true identity always seems to cause her, Clark decides that the time has come to break things off. Guess whose shoulder she cries on? If you picked Lex, you're right!

Is that woman you Pat? :O LOL :D

Sounds more like a combination of Desiree and Alicia.
So.. does this mean that Clark and Lana are back together again prior to this? It sounds like it. And they break up again?

*sigh*.. Honestly, the things I put up with just to see Clark have "near-sex." It comes down to priorities, I guess. ;) :hyper::D

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'm sure Ausiello is embelishing the "sex slave" thing just a bit....

[Serene]

I'm sure Ausiello is embelishing the "sex slave" thing just a bit....

Bite your tongue. If I have to watch those two break up again, it damn well better be worth my while. :mad:

;)

Perhaps they'll tie him up again? [/wishful thinking]

[Kal-El 8]

New spoilers..

Ask Ausiello 2/8:

Question: Now, can I please have some scoop on Alias? Or Lost. Or Smallville? Please?

Ausiello: Here's some Smallville dirt: Episode 16 is sure to be slapped with a Beef Wellington warning when a mysterious woman shows up wearing a hypnotic crystal and turns Clark into her sex slave. Naturally, Lana walks in on them just as they're about to bump humps. She'll eventually forgive him — he was in a trance, after all — but it's still the end of the road for Supercouple. After seeing how much pain hiding his true identity always seems to cause her, Clark decides that the time has come to break things off. Guess whose shoulder she cries on? If you picked Lex, you're right!

YES, NO MORE (Clana romance), It's about time now we can get down to {the Important} task at hand - Clark Embracing & Actsepting his DESTINY , to become SUPERMAN :supes:
:up: :up:

[AgentPat]

So.. does this mean that Clark and Lana are back together again prior to this?Well, they haven't officially broken up yet. The closest they've come is Lana telling Clark that she needs a break. But that was before Jonathan died, so she's acting now much like she did when Whitney's father was sick - trying to comfort Clark. If she sees him getting all hot and horny with another woman however (I can't believe I just typed that LOL), that will likely drive the last nail through the Clark/Lana proverbial coffin. I'm guessing Hypnotic will be the definitive END.

Honestly, the things I put up with just to see Clark have "near-sex."Pffft! Like you're unusual or something? LOL :p ;) :D

[Red X]

http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif

Doesn't get much better than that, does it Rumpuso? ;)

Bite your tongue, Red. :p

Done.

[avidreader]

I never thought I would say this, but I'm getting tired of this Clark and Lana yoyo and the reasons why they keep bringing it to an end.

Get on with it already, please. :mad:

[rumpuso]

Sounds more like a combination of Desiree and Alicia.

But with Desiree, Clark was immune to her brand of phermone manipulation. Yet, in Jinx, Clark was affected by Mxy's hocus pocus. I have to wonder how Smallville decides when it's okay to infect the *alien* and when it's not, because I'm not really understanding the pattern here.

[triplet]

Bite your tongue. If I have to watch those two break up again, it damn well better be worth my while. :mad:

;)

Perhaps they'll tie him up again? [/wishful thinking]

LOL!

:up:

That thought woke me up... :D ;)

[Kal-El 8]

But with Desiree, Clark was immune to her brand of phermone manipulation. Yet, in Jinx, Clark was affected by Mxy's hocus pocus. I have to wonder how Smallville decides when it's okay to infect the *alien* and when it's not, because I'm not really understanding the pattern here.

Desiree had Kryptonite pheremones powers . Mxy used Magic on Clark, Superman has a weakness to { Green Kryptonite} & [Magic]

[triplet]

Well now...this is unexpected. A little bit of Unsafe revisited?? So we have Brainiac returning and Clark having *almost* sex.

Okay. I'm good. :)

LOL!

:D

Desiree had Kryptonite pheremones powers . Mxy used Magic on Clark, Superman has a weakness to { Green Kryptonite} & [Magic]

Yeah, human pheremones wouldn't necessarily work on a Kryptonian, I wouldn't think...

He did get hypnotized in Delete by those Emails whatshername was sending out, so I don't think it's necessarilly inconsistant.

[AgentPat]

But with Desiree, Clark was immune to her brand of pheromone manipulation. Yet, in Jinx, Clark was affected by Mxy's hocus pocus. I have to wonder how Smallville decides when it's okay to infect the *alien* and when it's not, because I'm not really understanding the pattern here.He was also immune to Bob Rickman's handshake in Hug and overly affected by Kevin's memory wipe in Blank. Sara could only get into Clark's dreams in Slumber, yet Chloe's Kryptonite educed powers in Truth had no effect on him. Obviously, what effects Clark and to what degree is a matter of what's necessary for the plot. I've given up on trying to apply any logic to it anymore. It makes my head hurt. ;)

In the case of Hypnotic, I doubt I'll care *why* the antagonist can affect Clark. My concern will be that it lasts for at least the entire episode, if not longer. LOL :p

[triplet]

Anyone wanna take bets on who will complain first about the direction this convo is going?

:D

I have an idea of who will pipe in. :p

[Red X]

I don't know if as been discussed yet, but I thought I would bring it up how do you think Brainiac will come back?

[triplet]

I thought in one of those coming up on Smallville general teases, the ship popped back up in that warehouse... Maybe when the ship comes back he will too.

I guess he won't worry about teaching at Central Kansas anymore, however.

[Kal-El 8]

I don't know if as been discussed yet, but I thought I would bring it up how do you think Brainiac will come back?


I Think it might be thought The Black Crystal .

[Kane]

YES, NO MORE (Clana romance), It's about time now we can get down to {the Important} task at hand - Clark Embracing & Actsepting his DESTINY , to become SUPERMAN :supes:
:up: :up:

But to get there.. first he has to be a sex slave :confused: :down

[avidreader]

edit

[rumpuso]

If Clark is aware of Brainiac's return, I bet he'll really miss his dad's sage advice then. :( Poor boy.

[Kal-El 8]

But to get there.. first he has to be a sex slave :confused: :down

No, that's BULL**** :mad: , I think their's more to that story than meet's the eye .

I'm just glad CLANA over(the romantic part.) , I can deal with the friendship part, but not the romance part .

[The Incredible Hulk]

This is sort of a landmark episode for Smallville as well. This episode is #104 of the series which ties the George Reeves' Superman series as the longest running Superman live action TV series of all time.... After "Void" Welling will have played Clark Kent/Superman longer than anyone in history :up:

[triplet]

I wonder if this sex godess is Kryptonian in nature and she's using Clark to recreate. Could be part of Brainiac's plans.

Do you mean "procreate"??? :confused:

[Serene]

Do you mean "procreate"??? :confused:
Maybe "recreationally procreate?" :D

[triplet]

LOL! Well, that too! :D

[Red X]

I thought in one of those coming up on Smallville general teases, the ship popped back up in that warehouse... Maybe when the ship comes back he will too.

I guess he won't worry about teaching at Central Kansas anymore, however.

The pay was crap anyway, lol

[Lara]

I'm kinda rooting for the Lex/Lana/Clark triangle at this point. I love seeing Clark and Lex butt heads. Plus I'd rather see her involved with Lex than random boyfriend gueststar number three. I'm glad James Marsters is coming back. Him and Lex were great in that scene where they were playing pool and verbally dualing so sounds great to me =) Plus I would take him for Zod. That is a part that needs to not be overacted or arch. They might find someone great or they might not so why take the risk.

[avidreader]

Do you mean "procreate"??? :confused:

whatever.

[triplet]

The pay was crap anyway, lol

LOL!

True...

<---- coming from a college professor's wife, believe me when I say I know whereof you speak... :p

[Kane]

This is sort of a landmark episode for Smallville as well. This episode is #104 of the series which ties the George Reeves' Superman series as the longest running Superman live action TV series of all time.... After "Void" Welling will have played Clark Kent/Superman longer than anyone in history :up:

Then again the only other two live TV series were Superman (George Reeves) and Lois and Clark. Technically, George will still be the one who played 'Superman' the longest but Welling will have the record for Clark Kent so far.

[triplet]

Clark Kent is Superman, so you denigrating his history making turn as the character isn't nice...

Whether you like it or not, whether wearing the suit is what makes him Superman or not, He's played the character longer than anyone else. And Smallville will likely be the longest running live-action show for ANY comic book character ever, no matter which stage of development he's in.

[Kal-El 8]

Clark Kent is Superman,

This is true, However Smallville Clark is not SUPERMAN, he only a an alien farmboy with Super powers who's about to discover his True DESTINY . :supes:

He's not even The mature Adult Clark Kent yet. he's still the Boy who's got no idea who he's is or What he's Destined to become .

[Kane]

Clark Kent is Superman, so you denigrating his history making turn as the character isn't nice...

Whether you like it or not, whether wearing the suit is what makes him Superman or not, He's played the character longer than anyone else. And Smallville will likely be the longest running live-action show for ANY comic book character ever, no matter which stage of development he's in.

Ever? I wouldnt go that far. But right now, Clark Kent is not Superman. He will be in the final episode... but not now. He still has a long way to go. If you claim hes Superman now, thats like saying the 80s TV Superboy was actually Superman.. Hes still just 18/19 year old Clark Kent.

[AgentPat]

Clark Kent. Superman. Kal-El. Rumplestiltskin. Whatever. I think folks are splitting hairs for the sake of splitting hairs. Trip nailed the bottom line:

...Smallville will likely be the longest running live-action show for ANY comic book character ever, no matter which stage of development he's in.:up:

[AgentPat]

Ever? I wouldnt go that far. But right now, Clark Kent is not Superman. He will be in the final episode... but not now. He still has a long way to go. If you claim hes Superman now, thats like saying the 80s TV Superboy was actually Superman.. Hes still just 18/19 year old Clark Kent.More hair splitting? *sigh*

Superboy lasted 100 episodes. SV will have 110 in the can by the end of this season, a 6th season has pretty much been confirmed, and the show could quite possibly go seven if the studio wants it to. The cast will still be committed. That's 154 episodes all together, and who KNOWS what *could* happen after that?

...The show's ability to reach a large audience has given "Smallville" a shot at becoming the longest-running live-action superhero comicbook series in history: It's about to surpass the 104 episodes of Reeves' "Adventures of Superman" skein and looks likely to top the 120 episodes of the 1960s "Batman" next season.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117936819Once achieved, will SV remain the longest-running live-action superhero comicbook series in history? Pfft... who the heck knows? But it's gonna be one helluva tough act to follow for any show that tries, that's fer sure. It won't be easy topping a show *about* Superman, regardless of the character's age as portrayed in the skein. ;)

[Kane]

More hair splitting? *sigh*

Superboy lasted 100 episodes. SV will have 110 in the can by the end of this season, a 6th season has pretty much been confirmed, and the show could quite possibly go seven if the studio wants it to. The cast will still be committed. That's 154 episodes all together, and who KNOWS what *could* happen after that?


Im not talking about how many episodes. Im talking about the title "Superman." Technically, that isnt the guy in Smallville yet and like I said earlier, Smallville could have the record for portraying young Clark Kent the longest in the end.... but George Reeves still has the record for Superman.

[avidreader]

^^^^ For Heaven's sake! :rolleyes:

Give credit where credits due.

[AgentPat]

Im not talking about how many episodes. Im talking about the title "Superman." Technically, that isn't the guy in Smallville yet and like I said earlier, Smallville could have the record for portraying young Clark Kent the longest in the end.... but George Reeves still has the record for Superman.The operative word here is, "technically."

Technically, Tom Welling plays Clark Kent on SMALLVILLE.
Technically, Clark Kent IS Superman and vice versa.
Technically, the general public doesn't nitpick the distinction.
Technically, the general public already sees Welling as "Superman."
Technically, when the show ends and audiences see Clark dressed AS Superman, fanboy hair splitting won't matter anymore. :p

[Kal-El 8]

Clark Kent. Superman. Kal-El. Rumplestiltskin. Whatever. I think folks are splitting hairs for the sake of splitting hairs. Trip nailed the bottom line:

:up:

He's not SUPERMAN The world's Greatest SUPERHERO, He's not even Adult Clark Kent mild-mannered Reporter yet.

Clark Kent right now is just the Farmboy with a superhero complex ,that has no idea What's in store for his Future. (His great life, His wonderful friends & family , & his SUPER Wife & Soulmate )

[Kal-El 8]

The operative word here is, "technically."

Technically, Tom Welling plays Clark Kent on SMALLVILLE.
Technically, Clark Kent IS Superman and vice versa.
Technically, the general public doesn't nitpick the distinction.
Technically, the general public already sees Welling as "Superman."
Technically, when the show ends and audiences see Clark dressed AS Superman, fanboy hair splitting won't matter anymore.


(1) yes that's true

(2) No that's not true, He's not SUPERMAN

(3) Some do, some don't

(4) Some do, some Don't

(5) Yes that's true.

[Mike_D202]

OH god, go back to the SR forums you haters. I bet you even Brandon Routh AND Bryan Singer both watch "Smallville" and are huge fans. so eat dem apples.

What will be remembered the longest down the road, a 2 hour superman movie or a 6 year superman tv series?!

[triplet]

Jeez, he's born with the powers but his parent's upbringing that made him the man he is...

He's superman, the tights are just costuming.

He is more Supermanly this season than he has been ever too and yet still people say he's NOT superman. I sometimes wonder if I'm seeing the same show as some of you other folks...

:rolleyes:

[Kane]

Jeez, he's born with the powers but his parent's upbringing that made him the man he is...

He's superman, the tights are just costuming.

He is more Supermanly this season than he has been ever too and yet still people say he's NOT superman. I sometimes wonder if I'm seeing the same show as some of you other folks...

:rolleyes:

Then that would mean Superboy in the 80s series is also 'Superman' :confused:

That really doesnt make much sense.

Yes he WILL become Superman someday but he hasnt been portraying Superman on screen. Clark Kent is one thing, but he isnt Superman yet...the evolution isnt complete. This is a show about the adventures of a young Clark on his journey to get there....and he wont be there (Superman) till the end.

So thats why I said techincally Reeves portrayed Supes the longest...thats an accurate statement. While Welling has the record for young Clark Kent.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Then again the only other two live TV series were Superman (George Reeves) and Lois and Clark. Technically, George will still be the one who played 'Superman' the longest but Welling will have the record for Clark Kent so far.

Well firstly your forgetting the Gerard Christopher "Superboy" TV series, but notice how I only said "live action" Superman/Clark Kent which would also include the films and the work of Alyn, Reeve, and now Routh.

As for Welling only playing "Clark Kent" thats a matter of semantics. I could argue that Clark on Smallville is much more like the future Superman than he is like the bumbling, mild mannered reporter named "Clark Kent" in the future. To say Welling is only playing "Clark Kent" would imply he was just a guy who worked at a newspaper and broke a big story once in a while. My memories not too good, but I do seem to recall him being able to do a number of unusual things physically, having an ice fortress in the Arctic, and saving people on a daily basis. Who does that sound more like to you? Just because Welling hasnt put on the tights yet and had some pimp go, "say jim, that's a baaaaad outfit" is irrelevant.

[Kane]

What will be remembered the longest down the road, a 2 hour superman movie or a 6 year superman tv series?!

Probably the movie depending on the quality of it... but thats irrelevant. What does SR have to do with this?

OH god, go back to the SR forums you haters. I bet you even Brandon Routh AND Bryan Singer both watch "Smallville" and are huge fans. so eat dem apples.

And vice versa for Gough and Millar for the new Superman movie...doesnt prove anything.

[Kane]

Well firstly your forgetting the Gerard Christopher "Superboy" TV series, but notice how I only said "live action" Superman/Clark Kent which would also include the films and the work of Alyn, Reeve, and now Routh.

You said longest running TV though, I didnt include them. I didnt think about the Superboy series either because yes its Clark...but no its not Superman.

[Mike_D202]

So whats Superman to you? Grey Hair?

[triplet]

He's Superman in all ways except for wearing the tights and working at the Daily Planet and I don't think those are Superman's definiing characteristics.

He's saving people and he's got all the powers save full control of the last one.

He's more confident now than he's ever been and can be commanding when the bad guys need intimidating.

[Mike_D202]

He's Superman in all ways except for wearing the tights and working at the Daily Planet and I don't think those are Superman's definiing characteristics.

He's saving people and he's got all the powers save full control of the last one.

He's more confident now than he's ever been and can be commanding when the bad guys need intimidating.

Agreed. :up:

They ask me what Superman Returns has to do with anything here, and I say they've been attacking smallville in every shape way and form and its obvious they're for Bryan Singer's "almost continuation but not really maybe so" Superman movie in comparison. Its rediculous. They keep comparing trying to make excuses as to why the tv show is doing so well and its just jealousy that makes them do stupid things.

Face it, Smallville will always be more popular than the new movie coming out, no matter how big of a budget and big names are attached. Its not comparible to smallville. Everybody is talking like the movie is going to thrash Smallville when in reality, the movie will be forgotten in a matter of months and smallville will continue on.

Then what? "Oh just wait until DVD sales and the sequels, its just a matter of time before SV stops airing because of the Singer franchise." If anything, the tv series will stop becasue the contract will run out on the actors eventually. NOT becasue of the movie franchise.

Give me a break.

[triplet]

Well, I for one don't want to get into the which is better debate.

I have my own thoughts on what Singer is doing with that film but they don't belong here so you won't get me to say anything about that.

However, I do agree with you on one thing, Mike: Smallville is a valuable iteration of the Superman story in its own right and I hate that people trash talk it in seeming attempts to knock it down so it's easier to raise the film higher in Smallville fan's estemations.

Debating that film is a pointless excercise, really, since it hasn't unspooled in theatres yet and no one can really say one way or the other what the film is or isn't much less really say with any authority what it will or won't do at the box office.

All that remains to be seen.

However, what I do know is that Tom Welling is playing Superman on TV and will by the time the show is over played him longer and better than anyone else in live-action has done so far. And I mean anyone so far, even better than Reeve in my mind.

Who knows what kind of Superman HWSNBN will really produce? No one here, certainly since the film has yet to be released...

He could be great, but even Routh giving a beautiful performance won't (or shouldn't) diminish what Tom has produced and given Superman fans: a wonderful and in depth look at the character behind the mythos. He's given us a Superman that is more than just the marvelouse feats he can perform.

He made him real and relateable and as Pat has pointed out in the past, that's some trick given how unrelateable a hero with Superman's overwhelming powers can be.

Clark Kent is Superman in Smallville.

The tights are just costuming.

:supes:

[Kane]

Mike, youre an idiot. Your the one who brought SR up. Its totally irrelevant here.

And triplet, Its not just about the tights. Yes, hes done some Superman-like stuff so far but that doesnt make him officially Superman yet, thats all Im saying. He hasnt adapted that official superhero persona yet. He will be Superman in the end though, but until then hes been portraying Clark Kent, a flawed character but one whos on a journey to reaching his destiny. He still has years to go till he gets there. I think TW made it clear when he said he wants to stay away from Superman comics or whatever (that show what his character will become as a official Superhero) and focus on what 'Clark Kent' is now on his journey to get there.

Bruce Wayne displayed tons of dark personality traits similar to Batman before he became Batman....but he wasnt really Batman till he adapted the persona of Batman (put on the cowl and wore the symbol).

[Scooter]

Intersting argument.

Mind-numbingly interesting. They're all different facets of the same person.

[Kane]

Yet he hasnt adapted that persona yet. Its like saying he was 'Superman' when he was a child too (when he landed on Earth). He has the potential and everything....and thats who hes supposed to become...but he isnt there yet. The young actor who portrayed Clark Kent in the 1970s Superman movie wasnt portraying 'Superman' either.

Im not trying to undercut SV, just stating facts.

I wouldnt have called Robin (Dick Grayson) by the name "Nightwing" until he adapted the persona of Nightwing and wore the costume. He was destined to be Nightwing eventually, but as Robin..he wasnt there yet.

[Lara]

How does this argument end up in so many threads! Arrrgh quick we need new spoilers (of course if I make some up people may get mad)

[Red X]

How many episodes is James Marsters under contact to appear in again?

[Kane]

13 I think?

[Mike_D202]

Mike, youre an idiot. Your the one who brought SR up. Its totally irrelevant here.

Okay I admit you havent said the exact SR words yet but you've been beating around the bush. I havent seen ANYTHING in these SV forums that shows your a fan, I've seen you slam pointless things on the show from how Clark is supposively gonna break up with Lana (because he cant be honest with her, not becasue of the sex slave thing) to the punisher-esque vigilante that you think the writers ripped off a Batman cartoon argument. And I suppose you having a SR avatar doesnt exactly help out your image of trying to walk on SV with Routh's baby burgendy boots.

Yes he WILL become Superman someday but he hasnt been portraying Superman on screen.

I think you came acrossed as "Welling will never be considered SUPERMAN" SR troll for all the snarky remarks you've been leaving in these forums. Sorry, maybe its just me.

And yes, your right, Marsters is signed on for 13 episodes.

[Kane]

Okay I admit you havent said the exact SR words yet but you've been beating around the bush. I havent seen ANYTHING in these SV forums that shows your a fan, I've seen you slam pointless things on the show from how Clark is supposively gonna break up with Lana (because he cant be honest with her, not becasue of the sex slave thing) to the punisher-esque vigilante that you think the writers ripped off a Batman cartoon argument. And I suppose you having a SR avatar doesnt exactly help out your image of trying to walk on SV with Routh's baby burgendy boots.



I think you came acrossed as "Welling will never be considered SUPERMAN" SR troll for all the snarky remarks you've been leaving in these forums. Sorry, maybe its just me.

And yes, your right, Marsters is signed on for 13 episodes.

Its just you. What the hell is 'snarky'?

Alright for one, I like my avatar. It looks bloody cool. I dont care if it was from SR or Super Grover... its cool, so I use it.

2nd, how can you not say I say nothing positive about SV when you read my review for "Vengeance." I'm just keeping it real.

3rd, I didnt say Welling wont be considered 'Superman.' I do recall saying he will become Superman in the final episode and Im cool with that.

Youre a bit too...overly sensitive about this stuff. Im not on the side of SR either currently (because theres nothing to go by yet....the movie isnt out). Ill have an opinion on it when its out....I havent commented on his crimson boots (though personally I like the darker colors; just a preference because I tend to like darker costumed heroes).... but the movie itself, no sides taken yet.

[Kal-El 8]

He's not SUPERMAN right now,

Smallville Show Synopsis :
Before the legend...before the icon ...there was a teenager named Clark Kent (Tom Welling) Between the boy he thought he was and the man he is destined to become are the stories of Smallville. Someday, he'll master his powers and understand his true calling. :supes:

Someday he will be SUPERMAN, but right now he's still just The Teenager Farmboy from "SMALLVILLE" .

[AgentPat]

He's not SUPERMAN right now,

Smallville overview
Before the legend...before the icon ...there was a teenager named Clark Kent (Tom Welling) Between the boy he thought he was and the man he is destined to become are the stories of Smallville. Someday, he'll master his powers and understand his true calling.And the One Sheet read, "Superman in High School."

Look, what is the freakin' big deal here? Hulk's original point was that the Hypnotic episode of SV would tie "the George Reeves' Superman series as the longest running Superman live action TV series of all time. After Void Welling will have played Clark Kent/Superman longer than anyone in history." Why are people arguing semantics? I understand that "Superman" as the iconic costumed character has not shown up yet on SV and won't till the finale, but that doesn't detract from the fact that both are the same individual - just like Bruce Wayne is Batman, and Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Secret identities are nothing new to the world of comic book superheroes. Hello?! Ask John Q. Public who "Clark Kent" is and he'll say "Superman." Duh! John Q *might* even know who Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne is, though those are a tad more obscure. :p

The whole point here is that SV is on the verge of becoming the longest running live action TV series of all time based on a comic book character. It's also a show firmly rooted in the Superman franchise. It's not The Incredible Hulk. It's not Wonder Woman. It's not Batman & Robin. And it's not Spider-Man. Furthermore, it's NOT Superboy, Lois & Clark, or The Adventures of Superman. It's Smallville. The show is about Superman's early years as Clark Kent, and the character has been played by the same actor since its pilot. Give the show and the actor some credit, will yas? :rolleyes:

[Mike_D202]

And the One Sheet read, "Superman in High School."

Look, what is the freakin' big deal here? Hulk's original point was that the Hypnotic episode of SV would tie "the George Reeves' Superman series as the longest running Superman live action TV series of all time. After Void Welling will have played Clark Kent/Superman longer than anyone in history." Why are people arguing semantics? I understand that "Superman" as the iconic costumed character has not shown up yet on SV and won't till the finale, but that doesn't detract from the fact that both are the same individual - just like Bruce Wayne is Batman, and Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Secret identities are nothing new to the world of comic book superheroes. Hello?! Ask John Q. Public who "Clark Kent" is and he'll say "Superman." Duh! John Q *might* even know who Peter Parker and Bruce Wayne is, though those are a tad more obscure. :p

The whole point here is that SV is on the verge of becoming the longest running live action TV series of all time based on a comic book character. It's also a show firmly rooted in the Superman franchise. It's not The Incredible Hulk. It's not Wonder Woman. It's not Batman & Robin. And it's not Spider-Man. Furthermore, it's NOT Superboy, Lois & Clark, or The Adventures of Superman. It's Smallville. The show is about Superman's early years as Clark Kent, and the character has been played by the same actor since its pilot. Give the show and the actor some credit, will yas? :rolleyes:

:up:

[AgentPat]

Not to belabor the point, but when push comes to shove, it's all a matter of public perception. What does the public see the show as being about? I honestly don't think people will look back on SV and *only* think "Clark Kent." C'mon! When trade papers such as Hollywood Reporter and Variety talk about the show, it's identified as a show *about* Superman. You can't even get past the opening credits without being hit over the head with it...

http://www.patcostello.com/temp/credits.jpg

[Kal-El 8]

Smallville is The story about CLARK KENT'S JOURNEY TO BECOMING SUPERMAN, The Show isn't about his life as SUPERMAN .

It a prequel, Like With STAR WARS, (Episodes I, II ) Anakin Skywalker's life and story before he became DARTH VADER (in Episode III) .

[The Incredible Hulk]

oh for christ's sake people, let it go already. It's nothing like Batman or Darth Vader or any other character that becomes what he is by donning a mask or becoming evil. Clark/Kal-El was an alien from birth and had his powers from youth. He didnt need to be turned to "the dark side" and he doesnt need to strap on a utility belt to do extraordinary things, theyre part of who he is normally. The only thing he does is put on a primary colored costume. The man could be naked as a jay bird and still do everything he does with the suit on. And his attitude and demeanor are the same instilled in him by his parents as a youth.

Clark Kent is Kal-El is Superman. Deal with it.

[avidreader]

Anyway, I found some spoilers on another website. Apparently this Godess is Kryptonian and she has been created by Brainiac with some of the black crystals from the ship.

Lex is working with Brainiac and together they cooked up the scheme. This Godess is supposed to lure Clark away from Lana and it was set up by Lex that Lana would catch the two in the act.

This was the deal that Lex made with Brainiac. I'll give you whatever you need to release your General from the PZ but you have to help me turn Lana Lang away from Clark Kent. I want her and she is going to be mine sort of thing.

When Clark is broken out of his trance, he tells Lana that his secrets are huge and that it would be better if she lived her life without him.

She runs to Lex for comfort and cries on his shoulder and apparently the two end in a rather prolonged kiss.

Clark walks in on them. :eek:











































































JUST KIKDDING. :D

However, this thread is about Hypnotic, episode 16 of SMALLVILLE where Tom Welling plays Clark Kent/Superman.

[Kane]

Smallville is The story about CLARK KENT'S JOURNEY TO BECOMING SUPERMAN, The Show isn't about his life as SUPERMAN .



It a prequel, Like With STAR WARS, (Episodes I, II ) Anakin Skywalker's life and story before he became DARTH VADER (in Episode III) .

Exactly.


Its like calling Anakin (in Episode One) 'Darth Vader'... :confused: It wouldnt be an accurate statement.

Its true.

[The Incredible Hulk]

no it's nothing at all like that

[Kane]

oh for christ's sake people, let it go already. It's nothing like Batman or Darth Vader or any other character that becomes what he is by donning a mask or becoming evil. Clark/Kal-El was an alien from birth and had his powers from youth. He didnt need to be turned to "the dark side" and he doesnt need to strap on a utility belt to do extraordinary things, theyre part of who he is normally. The only thing he does is put on a primary colored costume. The man could be naked as a jay bird and still do everything he does with the suit on. And his attitude and demeanor are the same instilled in him by his parents as a youth.

Clark Kent is Kal-El is Superman. Deal with it.

Its more than that, hes still an essentially flawed teen. Still learning alot. Hes not there yet. He has years to go.

Diana was born with superhuman amazonian stength too (powers) but wasnt Wonder Woman till she adapted the superhero persona....she wasnt born as WW.

[triplet]

Oh, please....

:rolleyes:

[Kane]

Its true. Its true.

[AgentPat]

Smallville is The story about CLARK KENT'S JOURNEY TO BECOMING SUPERMAN, The Show isn't about his life as SUPERMAN.And your point is? We know all that stuff. Do you not agree that when SV ends, it will have become the longest running TV show of all time based on a comic book character, and Welling will have played Clark Kent/Superman longer than anyone in history?

This reminds me of the Lana/Chloe/Clark discussion from yesterday. I can't tell if folks are agreeing or disagreeing anymore. LOL

[AgentPat]

...The man could be naked as a jay bird and still do everything he does with the suit on...Oooo... Now THAT would be a fun episode....

And now ladies and gentlemen, Clark Kent will demonstrate his heat vision STILL works, even when he's naked. You're on, Clark!

[heavy sighs in audience]

What's that you say? Oh... well, we can open the windows if it's hot enough in here already. :p :D

[NHawk19]

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/nigelhomer/alaska/dead_horse.jpg


Now what's so hypnotic about this ep?

[Mike_D202]

Tom Welling is directing this one aint he?

[avidreader]

Tom Welling is directing this one aint he?

I dont think anyone knows with absolute certainty at this point, but James and Craig deduced that he would be directing episode 18 which is Fragile.

[avidreader]

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/nigelhomer/alaska/dead_horse.jpg


Now what's so hypnotic about this ep?

Hypnotism? :confused:

[AgentPat]

Hypnotism? :confused:http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/hypnotize.gif

Clark Kent is Superman.
Clark Kent is Superman.
Clark Kent is Superman.
Clark Kent is Super...

Is it working? LOL :p

[GothicPowerMix1]

Hypnotism? :confused:

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/7/c/7ceb01a41e56c5127d92e72b04773d25.gif

[The Incredible Hulk]

mmmmmmmm

pixelated cleavage....


aaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhgggggghh

[Kal-El 8]

And your point is? We know all that stuff. Do you not agree that when SV ends, it will have become the longest running TV show of all time based on a comic book character, and Welling will have played Clark Kent/Superman longer than anyone in history?




My point is saying that Tom Welling has played Clark Kent/SUPERMAN longer than anyone in Tv history is not true.

Tom has ONLY played one part of Clark Kent's life. And that is While he's still a teenager growing up in SMALLVILLE.

I agree That Tom will have played teenage character of Clark Kent for the longest time in tv history. But not as SUPERMAN

[Kal-El 8]

It's more than that, he's still an essentially flawed teen. Still learning alot. Hes not there yet. He has years to go.



Damn straight for his age he act's like a total idoit. He's no where near close to become The MAN he's destined to become.

Smallville version of Clark, I could never see him become The Iconic THE MAN OF STEEL SUPERMAN :supes: . I just can't see it yet.

[The Incredible Hulk]

randomly bolding words for emphasis doesnt support your argument.... :eek:

[Kal-El 8]

oh for christ's sake people, let it go already. It's nothing like Batman or Darth Vader or any other character that becomes what he is by donning a mask or becoming evil. Clark/Kal-El was an alien from birth and had his powers from youth. He didnt need to be turned to "the dark side" and he doesnt need to strap on a utility belt to do extraordinary things, theyre part of who he is normally. The only thing he does is put on a primary colored costume. The man could be naked as a jay bird and still do everything he does with the suit on. And his attitude and demeanor are the same instilled in him by his parents as a youth.

Clark Kent is Kal-El is Superman. Deal with it.

It's a part of the package, I know The suit doesn't make the MAN. But it is apart of him, That \S/ Emblem (The Man wears on that Blue suit & on The Red cape) Stands for The Legacy . (His Kryptonian Family,) (His Home Town), & (His NAME : SUPERMAN)

Kal-EL is Clark Kent is SUPERMAN :supes: , But he's not that yet in "Smallville" once Clark is living in Metropolis and is Flying around town in The Red Cape & Blue tights with The \S/ on his chest he is SUPERMAN.

[triplet]

You just aren't understanding other people's points, KE8...

The point everyone is trying to make is that the tights and the job at the daily planet don't DEFINE Superman. They are part of who he is later in life, yes, but those things are not his defining characteristics.

Those are his amazing powers and his almost compulsive need to help other people.

The only power he hasn't fully developed yet is flight, everything else he's got except the Daily Planet email account and the primary colored tights.

As for CS's contention that being a superhero requires some outward persona to be developed, I'm not sure what to tell you.

He is already everything a superhero should be now. He fights crime and protects the innocent often at risk to his own safety and many times even sacrificing what he wants out of life. If that isn't Clark being a superhero I don't know what else he could do...

IMO the tights and the Daily Planet job are just refinements added later to a Superhero "persona" he already has.

[GothicPowerMix1]

The point everyone is trying to make is that the tights and the job at the daily planet don't DEFINE Superman.

It's not what he does that's important it's what he does that define's him

[The Incredible Hulk]

The only power he hasn't fully developed yet is flight,

and super breath.....

[Kane]

You just aren't understanding other people's points, KE8...

The point everyone is trying to make is that the tights and the job at the daily planet don't DEFINE Superman. They are part of who he is later in life, yes, but those things are not his defining characteristics.

Those are his amazing powers and his almost compulsive need to help other people.

The only power he hasn't fully developed yet is flight, everything else he's got except the Daily Planet email account and the primary colored tights.

As for CS's contention that being a superhero requires some outward persona to be developed, I'm not sure what to tell you.

He is already everything a superhero should be now. He fights crime and protects the innocent often at risk to his own safety and many times even sacrificing what he wants out of life. If that isn't Clark being a superhero I don't know what else he could do...

IMO the tights and the Daily Planet job are just refinements added later to a Superhero "persona" he already has.

By that 'logic'..... This guy is 'Superman' too: :confused:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/superboy.jpg

:down

Your logic is flawed.

Tom Welling has been portraying Clark Kent. He wasnt born into the world as Superman...he becomes it. Read Birthright...he wasnt 'Superman' while he was travelling the world. He did alot of heroic stuff but he officially became Superman when he returned home and decided to become a full fledged crime fighter, accept his destiny. That wont happen till the final episode.

[triplet]

Your logic is flawed.

Tom Welling has been portraying Clark Kent. He wasnt born into the world as Superman...he becomes it. Read Birthright...he wasnt 'Superman' while he was travelling the world. He did alot of heroic stuff but he officially became Superman when he returned home and decided to become a full fledged crime fighter, accept his destiny. That wont happen till the final episode.

Maybe your point woulda been helped if your hotlink actually worked... :rolleyes:

And I have read Birthright and still don't see it the same way you do.

Whatever, talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, I'm done.

[Mike_D202]

HAHA, funny how nobody posted their thoughts on the episode yet. Personally I ended up falling asleep (I got tired around 730 for some reason) and the moments i did wake up during the episode and saw Chloe crying (very badly I might add). And I missed the "Cyborg" preview :( oh and the ppl I was watching it with said the episode wasnt all that great anyways. Oh well. It was more of a "Chloe episode" anyways I guess.

[KalKai]

Mike_D202? This is the Hypnotic thread lol.

[triplet]

HAHA, funny how nobody posted their thoughts on the episode yet. Personally I ended up falling asleep (I got tired around 730 for some reason) and the moments i did wake up during the episode and saw Chloe crying (very badly I might add). And I missed the "Cyborg" preview :( oh and the ppl I was watching it with said the episode wasnt all that great anyways. Oh well. It was more of a "Chloe episode" anyways I guess.

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210157

[Mike_D202]

oh, woopsy. I guess I didnt pay as much attention to this episode as I thought, LOL. :D

[Kane]

Maybe your point woulda been helped if your hotlink actually worked... :rolleyes:

And I have read Birthright and still don't see it the same way you do.

Whatever, talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, I'm done.

Look again at my post. The server was down before.

Just explain that logic to me at least... If you claim Welling has been portraying 'Superman' all these years, that means the guy in the picture is 'Superman' as well, which doesnt add up.

[triplet]

Look again at my post. The server was down before.

Just explain that logic to me at least... If you claim Welling has been portraying 'Superman' all these years, that means the guy in the picture is 'Superman' as well, which doesnt add up.

:rolleyes:

In Smallville, Clark has everything else that defines him as being "Superman" except fully realized flight, the pay stubbs from The Daily Planet, and the suit...

Why does the lack of those things (which really have no effect on who he REALLY is as a person) make him NOT Superman?

Yeah, he's still young and has a way to go yet but that's the point of the show: explore the journey a young Superman takes that leads him to pull on the tights...

[Kane]

:rolleyes:

In Smallville, Clark has everything else that defines him as being "Superman" except fully realized flight, the pay stubbs from The Daily Planet, and the suit...

Why does the lack of those things (which really have no effect on who he REALLY is as a person) make him NOT Superman?

Yeah, he's still young and has a way to go yet but that's the point of the show: explore the journey a young Superman takes that leads him to pull on the tights...

What does he really do that Superboy (pictured above, from the tv series) didnt?

Saves people, fights bad guys, shows maturity, etc

But does that make the 80s Superboy into Superman? He was in college too (same age as SV's Clark) but hes certainly not 'Superman' yet.

If Welling has been portraying 'Superman' all these years, this guy would be 'Superman' too;

http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/supermanontv/rockwell.html

Hes just been portraying young Clark Kent. Its probably why Welling doesnt want to read the comics, he wants to focus on playing young Clark Kent and not 'Superman' (which hes supposed to become in the end).

Its just a title but at the end of the day, getting back on point, it still technically means George Reeves portrayed 'Superman' on TV the longest, while TW portrayed young Clark Kent the longest (beating out the Superboy actors).

If there was ever a 'Metropolis' series that lasted as long with TW has an adult Superman himself, in the costume and now fully matured and developed as Superman (learned everything Jorel wanted to teach him and accepted Jorel and his destiny....and Kryptonian birthright), then that would actually mean something more.

Right now Clark wants nothing to do with Krypton or Jorel. He still has so much to learn. The evolution isnt complete yet.

[triplet]

http://www.sfrisch.com/images/merry_go.jpg

[Kane]

Cop out Triplet. Cmon, just explain yourself in relation to my last post.

I do have some strong arguements here proving my point.

[triplet]

No, the arguments you provided are little different than the ones you have put up before. The arguments keep going around and round so I'm getting off this ride....

[Kane]

Well I just want to understand your logic here. At least explain what makes 'Superboy' and Smallville's Clark so different character-wise? They both seem to be at similar steps in the evolution but 'Superboy' (from the TV series) isnt Superman and shouldnt be considered that way...

So what makes Smallville's Clark 'Superman'?

[Mike_D202]

By that 'logic'..... This guy is 'Superman' too: :confused:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/superboy.jpg



Show that picture to ANYBODY out on the streets and they'll tell you its SUPERMAN. Age difference or not.

What makes Cyborg, CYBORG: Well, hes a cyborg. What makes Barry Allen THE FLASH: Well, hes super fast. What makes Clark Kent SUPERMAN: He can super speed, heat vision, super hearing, super strength...everything about him is SUPER. Johnathon Kent even told him at the season finale of season 4 that Clark is a MAN. Just becasue the Daily Planet hasnt named him yet doesnt mean hes not.

[Kane]

So your saying 'Superboy' IS 'Superman' ? Well thats an ummm interesting prespective. Not one I really share though.

I didnt think the Superboy actor was meant to portray 'Superman' but Clark at an much earlier stage of the evolution to get there.

[Mike_D202]

Well I think everybody is looking at it from a moralisitc point of view (is clark really superman on the inside?). When in reality, they call him Superman becasue of his abilities and heroic deeds.

[Kane]

Maybe when Clark finally stops hating Jorel, Krypton and Jorel's plan for him... I could find that easier to believe. Like I said, he has so much to learn still...the evolution isnt complete.

He will be Superman in the end but calling him it now is like jumping the gun.

[rumpuso]

This thread has really strayed away from any discussion on Hypnotic.

[GothicPowerMix1]

How about you keep this debate at oh I dont know EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT & HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS. It is NOT the end of the world if every Smallville fan does not see Tom Welling as Superman. Even Tom Welling does NOT think he is Superman. He has not YET become & this is a quote from TOM WELLING himself.

"That Other Guy"


Therefore this debate is simply a matter of ones OPINION & it is NOT the end of the world if not everyone sees Tom Welling as Superman heck Tom Welling does NOT see himself as Superman yet. He has said MANY TIMES when he DOES BECOME Superman & thats in the FINAL EPISODE & heck even the Producers have said that. Like I said this debate simply = ONES OPINION & just because YOU think Tom Welling is playing "Superman" right now does NOT make it so.

[Mike_D202]

Clark Kent is Superman.

[KalKai]

STFU, get on topic.. lol.

[Zorex]

So . . . March, eh? :-\

Looking forward to the return of Brainiac, and more talk of this "Zod" character.

[user123456789]

Anyway, I found some spoilers on another website. Apparently this Godess is Kryptonian and she has been created by Brainiac with some of the black crystals from the ship.

Lex is working with Brainiac and together they cooked up the scheme. This Godess is supposed to lure Clark away from Lana and it was set up by Lex that Lana would catch the two in the act.

This was the deal that Lex made with Brainiac. I'll give you whatever you need to release your General from the PZ but you have to help me turn Lana Lang away from Clark Kent. I want her and she is going to be mine sort of thing.

When Clark is broken out of his trance, he tells Lana that his secrets are huge and that it would be better if she lived her life without him.

She runs to Lex for comfort and cries on his shoulder and apparently the two end in a rather prolonged kiss.

Clark walks in on them. :eek:











































































JUST KIKDDING. :D

However, this thread is about Hypnotic, episode 16 of SMALLVILLE where Tom Welling plays Clark Kent/Superman.

oh my god... avid, u REALLY got me with that joke.. my heart literally skipped a beat.

[avidreader]

oh my god... avid, u REALLY got me with that joke.. my heart literally skipped a beat.

:D

The whole thread was so off topic, I thought it needed lightening up. :D

[Kal-El 8]

5-16 ["Hypnotic"]
Brainiac (James Marsters) returns next episode with plans to use Lex to free Zod from The Phantom Zone.
airs March, 30th 2006 .

^^^ This is awesome news, I get a new Smallville episode on My Birthday with The RETURN Of Brainiac (James Marsters) .

[XwolverineX]

WHAT IN GODS NAME? IT AiRS MARCH 30TH?? WHY SO LONG??

[KalElofKrypton]

I thought when I came onto this thread it would be more on topic. Isn't anyone interested to see how Milton Fine/Brainiac returns?

[Mike_D202]

I'm more interested in knowing what the episode before the finale is, "Oracle" is an interesting title for an eppy. I wonder if it'll have one of those psychics on the episode like they did in the past telling Clark about his future (perhaps a glimpse of the costume?)

[AgentPat]

I'm more interested in knowing what the episode before the finale is, "Oracle" is an interesting title for an eppy. I wonder if it'll have one of those psychics on the episode like they did in the past telling Clark about his future (perhaps a glimpse of the costume?)Could be. Notice that they skipped over an ep title though - the one after "Mercy" (which still has me chuckling, btw.) I've been freakin' jonesing for the day a new title shows up in the spoilers like ... oh, I dunno... "Breath?" LOL :p

My word, what are they waiting for? Gah! :mad:

[Lara]

I thought when I came onto this thread it would be more on topic. Isn't anyone interested to see how Milton Fine/Brainiac returns? I've abandoned this thread for the same reason,but I gotta say he probably just shows up the same way he dissappeared. I imagine the ship returns to the same warehouse. From the last episode Lex was looking for him so that paves the way for him to go to Lex. I'm excited to see it but I doubt there is going to be any giant plot twist for him to return.

[avidreader]

Its hard to speculate on this episode when we have so little to go on. It probably wouldnt hurt if they released a few spoilers and maybe some episode stills.

Could be. Notice that they skipped over an ep title though - the one after "Mercy" (which still has me chuckling, btw.) I've been freakin' jonesing for the day a new title shows up in the spoilers like ... oh, I dunno... "Breath?" LOL

My word, what are they waiting for? Gah!


Clark's really gonna feel the pinch when he develops that power. In the past his dad has always been there to help him through it, now
he wont be. :(

I'm hoping that they are holding out on this, maybe for that reason and because they want to do it right.

[Kal-El 8]

[Bl the end of the road for Supercouple. After seeing how much pain hiding his true identity always seems to cause her, Clark decides that the time has come to break things off. [/B]

It's about Bloody Time this happend, Finally after 5 and a half years . Clana (as a romantic couple ENDS.)
http://www.antoniogenna.net/doppiaggio/anim/themask.jpg
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1296/themask2ct.gif SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSMOKIN! :up: :up:

[GothicPowerMix1]

I've abandoned this thread for the same reason,but I gotta say he probably just shows up the same way he dissappeared. I imagine the ship returns to the same warehouse. From the last episode Lex was looking for him so that paves the way for him to go to Lex. I'm excited to see it but I doubt there is going to be any giant plot twist for him to return.

You do know his agenda is to free Zod right & he WILL by Seasons end :up:

[Mike_D202]

KNEEEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

[Brainiac 8]

Could be. Notice that they skipped over an ep title though - the one after "Mercy" (which still has me chuckling, btw.) I've been freakin' jonesing for the day a new title shows up in the spoilers like ... oh, I dunno... "Breath?" LOL :p

My word, what are they waiting for? Gah! :mad:


You see Pat mercy is about when Clark finally gives Lex that noogie he so deserves.:D "Mercy Clark, MERCY!!!!!"

Seriously..like you have said....they really need to give us something to go off of here. I like knowing a little bit what to expect within the episode. Otherwise it's really hard to talk about it. "Brainiac, Zod, and Lex" That already tells me we should know more about this episode.
That is like the Trinity of evil there folks, the worst of the Supes villains.

As for the "Breath", Clark discovers that when he blows his birthday cake all the way to Canada. What tragedy that would be.:eek: :O

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Ughh another filler ep.

[KalKai]

Oh noes, no Jor-El, no FOS, IT'S A FILLER. LOL.

There's no such thing as a filler ep. ALL episodes contribute to something.

[triplet]

Oh noes, no Jor-El, no FOS, IT'S A FILLER. LOL.

There's no such thing as a filler ep. ALL episodes contribute to something.

Yeah, they do.

:up:

Good onya, Kal.

[Red X]

Oh noes, no Jor-El, no FOS, IT'S A FILLER. LOL.

There's no such thing as a filler ep. ALL episodes contribute to something.

They do this season.

[user123456789]

They do this season.

LMFAO.

this is tempting me to go watch every single smallville ep again, lol.

[avidreader]

Just read this post over at Ksite. I was wondering how the Hondurian boy was fitting in to all of this.


Has anyone else seen the latest issue of TV Guide? It has a large photo of "Lex" in Honduras and the caption reads, "Lex looks for Brainac in Honduras." Wow, so I guess that means this will take place in "Hypnotic." Now that is exciting news!

I was just thinking that this actually belongs in the Void thread.

[Red X]

Why would he be there. Taking a break from trying to free Zod?

[avidreader]

Why would he be there. Taking a break from trying to free Zod?

Isnt that where Lionel found the Transference Stone? It could be some ancient kryptonian meeting place, like the Kawatche Caves in Kansas.

[Red X]

Lex: Professor Milton Fine, so this is where you disappeared to. Were those college students really that bad that they drove you away?

Fine: I’m kind of busy working on my tan Mr. Luthor, maybe later.

[avidreader]

I think this conversation applies to the episode Void. :O

[KalKai]

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[KalKai]

Actually, it belongs here, the article says it happens in Hypnotic..

Source DTS

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7322/tvguide5re.jpg

Smallville Lex (Michael Rosenbaum, above, and right with costar Allison Mack) hands to Honduras to confront Brainiac (James Marsters) in the March 30 episode. The scenes set in the Honduras jungle were really shot in Surrey, British Columbia, at the Green Timbers Urban Forest, where the crew bought in a half a dozen truck-loads of plants such as bamboo and ferm to create the tropical look.

[avidreader]

That doesnt make sense though. The spoilers at Ksite have a casting call for a Hondurian Boy in the episode Void.

Which one is right? Or are they trying to confuse us. :confused:

[Serene]

That doesnt make sense though. The spoilers at Ksite have a casting call for a Hondurian Boy in the episode Void.

Which one is right? Or are they trying to confuse us. :confused:

Perhaps the Honduran boy, or just storyline, is introduced in Hypnotic, then is continued in Void.

[avidreader]

Perhaps the Honduran boy, or just storyline, is introduced in Hypnotic, then is continued in Void.

Good thinking. Lucky someone uses logic around here. :)

[KalKai]

The WB's Official Description: "Hypnotic"

BRAINIAC SUMMONS LEX - Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) discovers that Professor Fine, aka Brainiac (guest star James Marsters) is in Honduras and sets out to confront him. Clark (Tom Welling) meets a beautiful seductress named Simone (Nichole Hiltz) who uses a magical charm to make people succumb to her every wish. An enchanted Clark reveals his powers to Simone, who seizes the opportunity and demands that Clark kill Lex. Kristin Kreuk, Erica Durance, Allison Mack, John Glover and Annette O'Toole also star. The episode was written by Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer and directed by Michael Rohl (#2T6416).

Another woman that wants Lex dead. Clark & Lex, it's probably the fight that we've seen in the new trailer.

[Kal-El 8]

The WB's Official Description: "Hypnotic"

BRAINIAC SUMMONS LEX - Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) discovers that Professor Fine, aka Brainiac (guest star James Marsters) is in Honduras and sets out to confront him. Clark (Tom Welling) meets a beautiful seductress named Simone (Nichole Hiltz) who uses a magical charm to make people succumb to her every wish. An enchanted Clark reveals his powers to Simone, who seizes the opportunity and demands that Clark kill Lex. Kristin Kreuk, Erica Durance, Allison Mack, John Glover and Annette O'Toole also star. The episode was written by Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer and directed by Michael Rohl (#2T6416).

Another woman that wants Lex dead. Clark & Lex, it's probably the fight that we've seen in the new trailer.



Oh Boy,I can't wait to see this episode .



BRAINIAC SUMMONS LEX - Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) discovers that Professor Fine, aka Brainiac (guest star James Marsters) is in Honduras and sets out to confront him.

I can't wait to see this . :up:


Clark (Tom Welling) meets a beautiful seductress named Simone (Nichole Hiltz) who uses a magical charm to make people succumb to her every wish.An enchanted Clark reveals his powers to Simone, who seizes the opportunity and demands that Clark kill Lex.

She was the one in the new trailer @ Lex's Mansion, Where Clark nearly beats the living crap out of Lex . [The scene where Clark in black throwing Lex across The Room & then pining him to the Wall, about to kill him.]

[triplet]

Sounds great!

:up:

[Serene]

Sounds great!

:up:

I agree. :)
I wonder if there will be a chorus of people griping about the use of "magic" on the show again. I like that Clark has this one weakness (outside of Kryptonite). It does sound a little Desiree-like.. but throwing the "kill Lex" angle into it spices it up a bit.

I looked up the actress playing Simone - Nichole Hiltz. There are several pictures on IMDB of her.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0385346/photogallery

[Red X]

Oh Boy,I can't wait to see this episode .





I can't wait to see this . :up:




She was the one in the new trailer @ Lex's Mansion, Where Clark nearly beats the living crap out of Lex . [The scene where Clark in black throwing Lex across The Room & then pining him to the Wall, about to kill him.]

What trailer was that again?

[avidreader]

I'm betting Lex sets this whole thing up.

In the trailer we see Lex on the aeroplane (on his way to Hondura) saying have you found anything out about Clark. He's probably talking to this Simone chick.

She betwitches Clark and asks him to kill Lex, so Lex can get proof of Clark's powers. Of course, he's probably hoping that she'll break the spell before Clark goes too far.

Its sounds like a great story in any case. :up:

[triplet]

What trailer was that again?

The trailer at the end of the Vengeance Chronicles...

No worries, James decompiled the Macromedia Flash and had put it up onto his site (http://www.tomwelling.org) as a QT movie...

Just take a gander over there and you can see it. (Scroll down to the March 3rd update....)

[GothicPowerMix1]

Neat Trailer. It was cool seeing Jonathan pop up out of no where & I also like how he warns Clark that Lionel knows his Secret & heck he is dead & is still giving Clark advice :up:

[Red X]

The trailer at the end of the Vengeance Chronicles...

No worries, James decompiled the Macromedia Flash and had put it up onto his site (http://www.tomwelling.org) as a QT movie...

Just take a gander over there and you can see it. (Scroll down to the March 3rd update....)

Thanks for the help trip :up: :)

[GothicPowerMix1]

You know I hope before the Seasons End Ghost Jonathan pays Martha a visit. Mmaybe Jonathan can appear before Martha asking her to come with him so she can help Clark because hes trapped in the Phantom Zone & he warns Martha to dress warm & then Jonathan takes Martha to the Fortress & Martha is the one that frees Clark. That would certainly be a twist eh. Father & Mother helping their Son

[Super_Ludacris]

Maybe Mxy makes his return!!! I know how everyones missed him.


We do:confused:

[Brainiac 8]

We do:confused:

I did.:O

[Kane]

Brainiac returning is interesting.

A magical seductress and Clark under a spell sounds dumb....

I hope this isnt another memory wipe episode, probably is though considering how Lex is witnessed to Clarks powers again when Clark confronts him.

[GothicPowerMix1]

BLex is witnessed to Clarks powers again when Clark confronts him.

Again ? You know at this point its OBVIOUS how Lex wont know who Superman is when Clark puts on the Suit. Its obvious his mind will completely loose any memory of Clark Kent. Might be something Lionel could do near the end of the Show & Lex finds out & kills him for it. Yes I know its been done before but what hasnt already been done in Smallville that was repeated again & again.

[JackMercy]

Marsters likes the pizza at Smallville's local delivery.
(plus, he's contracted for a number of episodes...)

He should be around for a while...

He lends real genre cred and dramatic weight to this show; plus, he's just a kool kat (and the character ties in nicely with a certain animated project coming to retail soon...)

I would be surprised if you-know-who didn't do all they could to keep him around...

After all, the Z-man's got to have a counterpoint, eh?
(and Lex will need a bargaining liason...)



(funny, I typed Marsden above before I realized my freudian slip...)


;)

[tonytr1687]

Again ? You know at this point its OBVIOUS how Lex wont know who Superman is when Clark puts on the Suit. Its obvious his mind will completely loose any memory of Clark Kent. Might be something Lionel could do near the end of the Show & Lex finds out & kills him for it. Yes I know its been done before but what hasnt already been done in Smallville that was repeated again & again.

No I think in the Smallville universe Lex will know his identity in the future, but not tell anyone so he can have leverage against him.

[Super_Ludacris]

No I think in the Smallville universe Lex will know his identity in the future, but not tell anyone so he can have leverage against him.

http://deea.supermagnet.ro/wp-content/files/image.gif

[Lara]

Marsters likes the pizza at Smallville's local delivery.
(plus, he's contracted for a number of episodes...)

He should be around for a while...

He lends real genre cred and dramatic weight to this show; plus, he's just a kool kat (and the character ties in nicely with a certain animated project coming to retail soon...)

I would be surprised if you-know-who didn't do all they could to keep him around...

After all, the Z-man's got to have a counterpoint, eh?
(and Lex will need a bargaining liason...)



(funny, I typed Marsden above before I realized my freudian slip...)


;)
:up: :up: Good for the show and good for him to. It's a nice role to get away from the Spike image.

[triplet]

:up: :up: Good for the show and good for him to. It's a nice role to get away from the Spike image.

I love Marsters!

He's awesome... I shelled out more than $100 to get the three audio books he read for the Harry Dresden novels and I was in hog heaven for every minute.

I love those books and I love hearing him read them... too bad he only read the first three. :( I hope he makes more.

[Lara]

I love Marsters!

He's awesome... I shelled out more than $100 to get the three audio books he read for the Harry Dresden novels and I was in hog heaven for every minute.

I love those books and I love hearing him read them... too bad he only read the first three. :( I hope he makes more.
Is that where you know him from? I reluctantly started watching the Buffy dvd's and became a fan of his. Since then I've tried to follow but wow it's amazing the amout of interviews and articles etc..I'll have to check those books out since I love his voice. I've never listened to an audio book before though so it may seem weird at first.

[avidreader]

At long last.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/hypnoticgallery1.htm

[KalKai]

Nice gallery, I always loved the "adventurous" Lex, just like in Crusade.

Marsters looking great.

[avidreader]

Nice gallery, I always loved the "adventurous" Lex, just like in Crusade.

Marsters looking great.

I thought his hair looked a bit darker.

I love the lighting on the jungle scenes.

And Tom's looking much healthier than he did in Cyborg. He's got his natural glow back.

[GothicPowerMix1]

So when does this bastard air ?

[KalKai]

March 30th.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Better be a damn good Episode or I just might kill someone or something

[KalKai]

lol

[Super_Ludacris]

Dont catch feelings if it doesnt

[triplet]

Is that where you know him from?

Well, not really... one of my triplet sister's is a huge Buffy/Angel fan and I gave angel a try a few times on her say so and thought Marsters was the best thing in the show...

I read the Harry Dresden books last summer and then found out last fall (after Fine's debut on the show) that Marsters read the audio books... they're not easy to get, I had to order them online but they are so worth it.

I love the Harry Dresden books anyway but James does such a good job reading them it's pure joy! Imagine like 12 hours of him reading a book to you.... It is Heaven.

I love the sound of his voice.


I reluctantly started watching the Buffy dvd's and became a fan of his. Since then I've tried to follow but wow it's amazing the amout of interviews and articles etc..I'll have to check those books out since I love his voice. I've never listened to an audio book before though so it may seem weird at first.

You can find the first book here:

http://teeswithatwist.com/product.cfm?p=16749&afcid=1799&afbid=15&jar=1

I have an MP3 playing CD player in my car so I got the MP3 version. It's cheaper and it's only on one disk...

I like audio books but I don't have many. It's very nice to listen to audio books on a long drive. I listened to the three Dresden files ones when I drove from Colorado to Florida when I moved down here the end of last year....

Believe me, if you like his voice you'll love the books... He does a great job reading them even if he does routinely mispronounce things...

He consistantly mispronounces writhing as "ree-thing" instead of "rye-thing"... weird.

There was something else he mispronounced consistantly, but I don't remember what it was...

[Serene]

At long last.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/hypnoticgallery1.htm

Those look great! And I was LOL at Craig's captions. :D

[Super_Ludacris]

This Craig dude must write for Wayne Brady













































Cause he's one corny mofo

[KalKai]

DTS has 5 more images.

K-Site updated.

[Brainiac 8]

I'll tell you, I am soooo glad we get to see Fine again.:up: :D

[KalKai]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1645/lexchloe5bp.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2306/clarkchloe7vs.jpg

:o :O.. lol :D

[Brainiac 8]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1645/lexchloe5bp.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2306/clarkchloe7vs.jpg

:o :O.. lol :D


:O um...yea...that's about every fantasy from the show I have.:eek:

[Lara]

Well, not really... one of my triplet sister's is a huge Buffy/Angel fan and I gave angel a try a few times on her say so and thought Marsters was the best thing in the show...

I read the Harry Dresden books last summer and then found out last fall (after Fine's debut on the show) that Marsters read the audio books... they're not easy to get, I had to order them online but they are so worth it.

I love the Harry Dresden books anyway but James does such a good job reading them it's pure joy! Imagine like 12 hours of him reading a book to you.... It is Heaven.

I love the sound of his voice.




You can find the first book here:

http://teeswithatwist.com/product.cfm?p=16749&afcid=1799&afbid=15&jar=1

I have an MP3 playing CD player in my car so I got the MP3 version. It's cheaper and it's only on one disk...

I like audio books but I don't have many. It's very nice to listen to audio books on a long drive. I listened to the three Dresden files ones when I drove from Colorado to Florida when I moved down here the end of last year....

Believe me, if you like his voice you'll love the books... He does a great job reading them even if he does routinely mispronounce things...

He consistantly mispronounces writhing as "ree-thing" instead of "rye-thing"... weird.

There was something else he mispronounced consistantly, but I don't remember what it was...
So much of my family watched Buffy but I never gave it a chance until recently. The only way to watch it is from the beginning. It won me over in spite of myself. Angel was much harder because I didn't like Angel on Buffy but by then I was hooked on the verse.I couldn't even imagine trying to jump in on the last season of Angel. it would have just been a mess. Not trying to convert you but I finally get all the hoopla and from a new previously reluctant fan if you ever want to see just a few great Marsters eps I could point you in the right direction. I unfortunately don't have an Mp3 but I'll save the link. No long car trips for me my life is so boring lately I could always listen while I exercise or clean though.

[triplet]

So much of my family watched Buffy but I never gave it a chance until recently. The only way to watch it is from the beginning. It won me over in spite of myself. Angel was much harder because I didn't like Angel on Buffy but by then I was hooked on the verse.I couldn't even imagine trying to jump in on the last season of Angel. it would have just been a mess. Not trying to convert you but I finally get all the hoopla and from a new previously reluctant fan if you ever want to see just a few great Marsters eps I could point you in the right direction. I unfortunately don't have an Mp3 but I'll save the link. No long car trips for me my life is so boring lately I could always listen while I exercise or clean though.

Oh, they also have regular audio CD's too...

The MP3 version is just more covenient for me.... I hate listening to the radio (hate commercials and DJ's who are too fond of hearing themselves talk) so I got it when I had to replace my radio so I didn't have to always be flipping CD's....

Having all ten CD's of the audio book on one is great and is about $10 cheaper a set.

If you have any ideas on which episodes are good for Marsters, either Buffy or Angel, they're both in syndication here, let me know and I can tivo them.

[Lara]

If you have any ideas on which episodes are good for Marsters, either Buffy or Angel, they're both in syndication here, let me know and I can tivo them.
Form Buffy
School Hard- the first ep he appeared in
Fool For Love
The Initiative
The Harsh Light of Day
Lovers Walk
Crush
The later seasons have so many but these are a great start for the earlier ones. If you watch em pm me =)

[GothicPowerMix1]

& all Episodes from Angel Season 5. It was great seeing those 2 bicker at each other & compare each other each Episode

[triplet]

Has no one see this over on KryptonSite (http://www.kryptonsite.com/tvghyp2.htm)?

Clark is manipulated by Simone, who possesses a magical, hypnotic jewel that makes him love her. Meanwhile, Dr. Fine (James Marsters) reappears in Honduras, and Lex is on his trail.

[Kal-El 8]

TV Guide Description for Hypnotic
Clark is manipulated by Simone, who possesses a magical, hypnotic jewel that makes him love her. Meanwhile, Dr. Fine (James Marsters) reappears in Honduras, and Lex is on his trail.


Could it be possible, This Hypnotic crystal is made out some form of Kryptonite ? possibly "Red" Kryptonite ?

I can't wait to see Lex & Brainiac re meet. :eek: :up: :up:

[mellyM]

Originally Posted by TV Guide Description for Hypnotic
Clark is manipulated by Simone, who possesses a magical, hypnotic jewel that makes him love her. Meanwhile, Dr. Fine (James Marsters) reappears in Honduras, and Lex is on his trail

Hmm...where can I get such a jewel?? :D

[avidreader]

Hmm...where can I get such a jewel?? :D

LOL! :D

I think you would have a long line of fans lining up to get one of those.

[triplet]

Yeah, just tell me where to buy one...

:D

[Lara]

Ok sombody help me out isn't this a version of some Enchantor lady from the comics? I read it somewhere but now I can't remember her name but she had some type of necklace etc..

[AgentPat]

Oh my word...................

Did you guys see that trailer after Lockdown tonight?


Is it March 30th yet? Holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!



http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/thud3.gif

[KalKai]

They showed a new trailer? give us some details Pat.

[KalKai]

Funny, I think the girl who's playing Simone seduced Ryan on the O.C. in Season 1, lol.

Here's a cap:

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5231/941ca.jpg

[AgentPat]

They showed a new trailer? give us some details Pat.Gosh, I totally wasn't expecting it. I was cleaning up my take-out Chinese from the coffee table when I heard, "Take off your shirt." LMFAO!! Seriously! I looked up and... there he was. And there SHE was. Next scene was um.. uh.... hee! Well, lets just say it reminded me of the first loft scene in Unsafe. Hah! Clark VOs (to the woman) "with my powers, I could hurt you." Then Lana walks in. Clark looks up... uh... yeah.... up..... (LOL) and has this devil of a grin on his face. Oh... I WISH I had taped it. I'm looking forward to dis un, ahuh!!!!!

[KalKai]

LOL, just seen it, thanks to DTTW, link:

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D7KRVI00BQPF01ZNRCZKK53HG

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2604/hypnotic00012ed.jpg

Nice S, lol.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/3076/hypnotic00027pw.jpg

[Serene]

I saw it.
All I remember is Clark without a shirt.
That's enough. :up:

Okay, not entirely true. I've never been so torn about a preview before. On the one hand.. Clark, semi-nekkid.. which makes me ALL KINDS of happy. But on the other, Lana seeing the boyfriend that won't have sex with her anymore doing, or trying to do, another woman. And I see him smirking when he raises his head, but it fades when he sees Lana.

I'm just going to focus on the nekkidness.. I'd rather stay positive. :)

[triplet]

I think it looks awesome.. I was working tonight and missed it but I am looking forward to this hiatus to finally being over.

:up:

Can't wait to see how they bring back Fine too... :D

[boydston_14]

^^ Same here. In the episodes he was in, Fine was my favorite character...

[Thunder Emperor]

Clark getting some play time year. sorry Lana move on .

[Kane]

:( I dont know what to say. I had high hopes for this one, thinking it would be a Brainiac-focused episode.

But if the main plot is a porno like in the commerical... thats not good.

[AgentPat]

I saw it.
All I remember is Clark without a shirt.
That's enough. :up:

Okay, not entirely true. I've never been so torn about a preview before. On the one hand.. Clark, semi-nekkid.. which makes me ALL KINDS of happy. But on the other, Lana seeing the boyfriend that won't have sex with her anymore doing, or trying to do, another woman. And I see him smirking when he raises his head, but it fades when he sees Lana.

I'm just going to focus on the nekkidness.. I'd rather stay positive. :)LOL! Did you see the .wmv file KalKai posted? Look at that opening scene. It goes by super fast, no pun intended, but you can pause it. It looks like Clark is holding up Hypnotic chick against a wall with his hands on her butt and her legs straddling his thighs Mrs. Robinson Style. He's leaning in and they're passionately kissing like nobody's business. Lana who? That's just all kinds of hot - I can't even think straight. LMFAO!!!

[avidreader]

I caught it last night, and I was like :eek: .

Then Lana walks in on them about to jiggy jiggy. That poor couple can never get any breaks. :(

I wonder if Lex sets it up. They did say he was going to do something terrible to Clark and Lana.

[avidreader]

But if the main plot is a porno like in the commerical...

No more than that picture you have on your website. :rolleyes:

[Kane]

:confused: what? Sex slaves, girls' exposed rear ends being grabbed etc... thats a little beyond that.

I just dont like that stuff in a Superman-based series (and Smallville tends to have alot of it). Its just so out there for the theme and characters and its not something Im cool with endorsing kids to watch either..

Hopefully the promo is misleading though and it isnt the main plot cause I dont want an episode like the vampire one again...

[avidreader]

:confused: what? Sex slaves, girls' exposed rear ends being grabbed etc... thats a little beyond that.

I just dont like that stuff in a Superman-based series (and Smallville tends to have alot of it). Its just so out there for the theme and characters and its not something Im cool with endorsing kids to watch either..

Hopefully the promo is misleading though and it isnt the main plot cause I dont want an episode like the vampire one again...

Smallville blends real life situations with the fantasy world. Its the basis of the show.

You want to show the humanity of a character then you need to put him into situations where he has to deal with humanity.

There's nothing unnatural about two people making out. Its human nature.

[Kane]

Its about good taste too. SR is supposed to humanize Superman as well, supposedly to a very extreme degree, but I dont think we'll see Kate Bosworth stripping down to her underwear and getting all raunchy.

I'll actually be upset if that happens...it would totally cheapen the film.

[avidreader]

Its about good taste too. SR is supposed to humanize Superman as well, supposedly to a very extreme degree, but I dont think we'll see Kate Bosworth stripping down to her underwear and getting all raunchy.

I'll actually be upset if that happens...it would totally cheapen the film.

So its not the fact that Clark is onscreen shirtless and making out, its because there is a woman in her underwear. :rolleyes:

How did you feel about Lana waking up next to Clark naked?

[triplet]

:rolleyes:

[Kane]

I wasnt even looking at Clark in the promo. It was just the way the entire thing came off...it was really sleezy and cheap. Ive seen similar stuff on SV all the time.

That scene with Lana that you describe wasnt too distasteful, its not like they actually showed them doing sexual acts. They kept it pretty tasteful and let it happen offscreen.

Scenes like Lana the lesbo vampire though, are basically what Im talking about. Its just cheap and sleezy. It may be right on a reality show but it doesnt work for me on something thats tied with the Superman mythos.

If its your thing, thats fine but personally to me, I think it reeks of the same kinda lameness Schumaccer pumped into Batman and Robin turning them into a joke.

[mellyM]

I wasnt even looking at Clark in the promo. It was just the way the entire thing came off...it was really sleezy and cheap. Ive seen similar stuff on SV all the time.

That scene with Lana that you describe wasnt too distasteful, its not like they actually showed them doing sexual acts. They kept it pretty tasteful and let it happen offscreen.

Scenes like Lana the lesbo vampire though, are basically what Im talking about. Its just cheap and sleezy. It may be right on a reality show but it doesnt work for me on something thats tied with the Superman mythos.

If its your thing, thats fine but personally to me, I think it reeks of the same kinda lameness Schumaccer pumped into Batman and Robin turning them into a joke.

You sure complain alot, lol. She's a seductress, so it wouldn't exactly be your sweet romantic kind of scene would it? And since they have 22 eps a season to do, I see nothing wrong with mixing things up a bit. And that may not be the main focus of the episode, but as always, the WB focuses on whatever sex there may be in an episode, but there are plenty of plot moving things happening in the episode as well. We'll just have to wait and see.

[AgentPat]

...I dont think we'll see Kate Bosworth stripping down to her underwear and getting all raunchy.

I'll actually be upset if that happens...it would totally cheapen the film.Well, it could be worse y'know? They could show Routh stripping down to his underwear and getting all raunchy.


*sigh*

I think my eyes are bleeding. http://www.patcostello.com/smileys/sick2.gif



Hey, don't open the door if you don't want people to walk in. :p

[Kane]

You sure complain alot, lol. She's a seductress, so it wouldn't exactly be your sweet romantic kind of scene would it? And since they have 22 eps a season to do, I see nothing wrong with mixing things up a bit. And that may not be the main focus of the episode, but as always, the WB focuses on whatever sex there may be in an episode, but there are plenty of plot moving things happening in the episode as well. We'll just have to wait and see.

Still, I wouldnt say its really necessarily. These episodes cheapen the show for me bigtime.