Flight 93 (September 11th) Trailer

[Gamma Ray]

Trailer! (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/flight93/large.html)

What do you think?

[Imagination_13]

I'll see it because I'm interested in how Paul Greengrass is gonna handle it, but... a Sept. 11th movie already?

[Flame on!]

It's been over 4 years. Spanner.

[Octoberist]

I don't know...it feels too soon, ya know?

The next you know it, 9/11 will spawn video games, just like there's games based on the WW II and Vietnam.

[BatMatt]

Too soon!
Probably better than Stone's "World Trade Center" because Stone should never be given a historical piece to direct let alone a 9/11 movie

[Timstuff]

I think it's too soon for a 9/11 movie. First of all, Al Quada is still out there screwing around, so it's bound to have a bit of a cliffhanger ending. And second of all, it hasn't even been 5 years yet, and it's all still too fresh in people's minds, and will make many people uncomfortable. Are the proceeds, if any, going towards 9/11 related charities? If not, then that's truly despicable.

[deathshead2]

I'm going to kick whos ever @$$ came up with a 911 movie how dare they.

[CConn]

Yeah, it's way too soon for this. I'm hardly an emotional person, but just from watching the trailer...I don't think I could stand watching two hours of that.

Hopefully it's a great movie, though...a great movie I can watch with some sliver of comfort 10-20 years from now.

[American_Hobo]

the trailer is not working for me for some reason..

so when's this movie coming out?

[CConn]

I'm going to kick whos ever @$$ came up with a 911 movie how dare they.It's not that bad of an idea, really. I mean, those people that sacrificed their lives do deserve to be ingrained into the public consciousness beyond mere history books. Just like WW2 had Schindler's List, and Torra Torra Torra, dedicated to it, 911 should have some great movies to tell the stories of what happened that day. It's just too soon to do it, IMO.

[Rock Strongo]

Al Queda isn't out there doing anything. The Government just says they are, so they can arbitrarily attach them to a country, and then attack that country, and then not find weapons of mass destruction.

[CConn]

the trailer is not working for me for some reason..

so when's this movie coming out?April, apparently.

[deathshead2]

I still don't see them doing justice to those people. Still how dare they.At least wait 10 years before you do this movie people.

[Motown Marvel]

why's my computer gotta suck when it comes to playing movie trailers? i got DSL and quicktime 7, seems like there shouldnt be a problem, but....

[unknownuser]

at first i thought this was the Oliver Stone/Nic Cage 9/11 project.

[Darth Elektra]

Does anyone know where I can watch this for windows player?

[Earthsea]

Very nicely done Teaser. But I dunno considering the Subject. The people this Movie will I think effect the most are the ones who SAW them collapse sure everyone may be a little effected by this but the ones who were there & saw the buildings actually collapse might have a problem with this Movie

[Stringer]

The trailer doesnt show me anything to make me think its not a movie trying to make money off the tragic events of 9/11 but then again its a teaser maybe the 2nd trailer will reveal more.

[Darth Elektra]

I cant see the trailer but if it looks cool,ill see it.

[Timstuff]

Al Queda isn't out there doing anything. The Government just says they are, so they can arbitrarily attach them to a country, and then attack that country, and then not find weapons of mass destruction.

Also, man never went to the moon, and Elvis is still alive, right?

[Shifty]

Anybody here ever watch the docudrama The Flight That Fought Back? They can only improve on production values and make it longer. Maybe I'll watch it. Is it too soon? Don't watch. But I really enjoyed Discovery Channel's effort which had the support of many friends and relatives from Flight 93, which was one that always interested me the most.

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/flight/flight.html


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470764/

[Timstuff]

I watched that docu, it was pretty good.

[TheBat812]

the movie looks enticing to say the least. This is a story of real life heroes (of course it isn't the actual accounts though, save for the phone calls). I'm interested in seeing how the movie pans out.

[WarBlade]

I hope this Simon Poland (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0688857/) guy knows what accent he's supposed to be doing. Listening to the trailer the words "take them down" cuts through and hits the right button . . . I wonder if that's him?

[Kevin Roegele]

Also, man never went to the moon, and Elvis is still alive, right?

What he means is that Al-Queda (which is a name the west came up with) is not simply a group of evil cave-dwelling terrorists, as the US Govenment would have you believe. No doubt the 9/11 movies will portray them as such though, trying to kill all the decent, heroic, ordinary Joe Americans.

[Milkman95]

Greengrass is good, so it will probably be a well done film. It's probably too soon for most, but we'll see what happens.

These heroic Americans that sacrificed their lives to take these evil maniacs down deserve to be honored - I just don't know if making a film about them is the right way to do it........

Oliver Stone's and Adam Sandler's 9/11 projects are much, much different.

[amazingfantasy15]

I really don't think this is a great idea, not because it's too soon or anything like that. I just don't know how if the material is strong enough for a feature film, movies about WW2 and Vietnam have conflict and there are so many stories that could be told about those events. Flight 93 doesn't really have that, the entire ordeal probably took about half and hour and it's about a bunch of people taking on 3-4 guys with boxcutters, the only reason the passengers didn't overrun the other flights was terrorists never used planes as weapons before, only as tools for negotiation. I'm not saying the people who overan the plane weren't good people for doing it, I just don't think there's a movie in the story.

[Matt]

This is a stupid idea. Any 9/11 movie is...to be honest, there isn't that much to do with it. Plane crashes into towers...plane crashes into PA field. Thats it. The most interesting way to apporach a 9/11 movie would be from the point of view of the hijackers who spent years training and preparing.

Instead the terrorists will be portrayed as uncivilized barbarians, the people on the plane as 2 dimensional action movie hero card board cut outs, and all the movie will really do is try to say "America is better than everyone". Plus I'm sure they'll add in stupid subplots about which passengers were sleeping together, and other bull****.

[Shifty]

Timeline of flight http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/flight/timeline/timeline.html

Its not for us now, its for people in the future, who were too young for 9/11 or those born after it. They can see the story of these heroes that prevented 9/11 from being a even darker day. They made a movie from the first WTC bombing not too long after it. Its just a historic, informative story, not a entertaining "must see" story on film.

[Arcturus]

Is this movie really necessary? The trailer made me feel awkward, I also think it's way to early.

[David Ford, RPD]

Al Queda isn't out there doing anything. The Government just says they are, so they can arbitrarily attach them to a country, and then attack that country, and then not find weapons of mass destruction.

There is a difference between distructing Bush's PR steamroller, and being a bafoon. I bequeth you the second...my son?

[Mentok]

I dont see what the big problem is. If you think you would feel uncomfortable watching then dont go see it.

As for it being too early to portray the stories from a historical event I think its just silly. Where is it written that you have to wait for a certain period.

Obviously there is a demand for the film otherwide I doubt Greengrass would have made it.

Sure the subject matter will hit pretty close to home for some people as some films do for me. I choose not to watch them is I feel that way about it.

[Matt]

I dont see what the big problem is. If you think you would feel uncomfortable watching then dont go see it.

As for it being too early to portray the stories from a historical event I think its just silly. Where is it written that you have to wait for a certain period.

Obviously there is a demand for the film otherwide I doubt Greengrass would have made it.

Sure the subject matter will hit pretty close to home for some people as some films do for me. I choose not to watch them is I feel that way about it.

I don't really think it's too soon...I just don't think it is really movie material. Let the history books reflect the heroes of Flight 93...not some movie that will turn them into movie stereotypes that just scream out "AMERICA, **** YEA!"

Like I said...a 9/11 movie focusing on the terrorists would be much more daring. It would probably garner a lot of backfire....but it would also probably be damn good.

[Mentok]

Like I said...a 9/11 movie focusing on the terrorists would be much more daring. It would probably garner a lot of backfire....but it would also probably be damn good.

I agree. I would like to see someone try and get that made in Hollywood ;)

[Matt]

I agree. I would like to see someone try and get that made in Hollywood ;)

Well, if Syriana goes well enough in the long term...I wouldn't be suprised to see it.

[Wolfwood]

I don't think it's too soon, I'm just not really interested.

[Kevin Roegele]

I dont see what the big problem is. If you think you would feel uncomfortable watching then dont go see it.

What about the families of people who died during the event? Why should they have to be reminded of what happened if they don't want to be? It's not like they can avoid the hype for the movie, the trailers, the reviews. And what if they don't like the way the events, or even their relatives, are portrayed in the movie?

A 9/11 movie is not only insensitive, it's dangerous. A lot of the people who see it will realise it's only a romanticised version of events. But a lot of people will take it as gospel and believe everything in the film is historical fact.

[Electrix]

I think they have released it at this time for a reason. It is still in peoples minds but not 100%. There has been enough time for things to settle. It will also get publicity.

[WormyT]

Seems like a risky movie to make about a plane that was more than likely shot down but I like this guys movies.

We all know there was a fight on board so its interesting subject, but I wonder did the filmmakers get to hear the flight tapes? If they didn't then 90% of this will be B.S.
regardless though the people ARE heros including everyone on the other planes too and buildings.

I know they play the real airtraficers voice in the trailer and then they cut to actors.

You can hear some of the real recording on airdisaster.com

[Kevin Roegele]

regardless though the people ARE heros including everyone on the other planes too and buildings.

No, they are not all heroes. Most of them are simply victims.

[WormyT]

No, they are not all heroes. Most of them are simply victims.
Well, I say heros because they too would have fought back had they known their captors weren't looking for demands or planning on landing the plane.
Plus the firefighters, cops and people helping others down those buildings plus the people who got their throats cut on the other flights. I'm sure they fought back.

[Lobster Charlie]

Eh, I don't even think those people on Flight 93 fought anything. I think that story was made up to get the public feeling patriotic. They (the US government) shot down Flight 93.

Here's a site to read, if anyone is interested:

http://www.flight93crash.com/

another, about a mysterious jet spotted that same day:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143

And check out this caller to Howard Stern show, who was an eyewitness:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2004/042104flight93.htm


A MUCH more interesting film would've been about the coverup behind this whole damned thing. But maybe that's jus tme.

[Carter]

Yeah, I really want to relive 9/11

Pass

[Kevin Roegele]

Well, I say heros because they too would have fought back had they known their captors weren't looking for demands or planning on landing the plane.
Plus the firefighters, cops and people helping others down those buildings plus the people who got their throats cut on the other flights. I'm sure they fought back.

Who says they would have fought back? Who says most of them even knew what was going on?

I know it's more comforting to say, 'they died heroes' than simply, 'they died', but it's a romanticised view of events.

[Darth Elektra]

I'll be seeing this probably on July 4th.

[Shifty]

Who says they would have fought back? Who says most of them even knew what was going on?

I know it's more comforting to say, 'they died heroes' than simply, 'they died', but it's a romanticised view of events.

Flight 93 was delayed, so the other three flights had a head start. Also, for whatever reason the terrorist take even longer than the other flights before they take it over. They then told the passengers, after killing an older passenger and the pilots that they had a bomb on the plane and that it was your standard hijack and if you don't listen we'll blow the plane up. However, once word got to the passengers about the three other planes crashing into buildings, they had a very good idea that they were bluffing. Before 9/11, nobody expected planes to be used for terrorist attacks so why wouldn't the passengers sit tight and hope they get out alive? Of course once they realized the planes were headed for the WTC or Pentagon it would be too late to mount an attack and stop them.


On Flight 93 they took a vote and told loved ones on the phone that they are going to try and stop them and how (boiling hot water, using a cart). A few of the passengers were well suited for the situation. The cockpit flight recorder you can hear the passengers banging on the door (where they most likely killed a terrorist who was standing guard outside the door), a terrorist telling another terrorist to hold up a small axe at the peep hole (which of course the passengers couldn't see), the terrorist pilot screaming, saying he was going to crash the plane as soon as they broke into the cabin.

Not all families/friends of the victims of Flight 93 were involved with the docudrama, now whether they didn't want to for their own reasons, or were upset about the whole project I don't know. Those who talked to people on the plane were used. And a few other close people. As for the movie that comes out this year, its not JFK where they can twist things to make it an very entertaining film, there are facts and a spotty stuff towards the end of the flight. We'll all see.

The order was given to shoot down any aircraft on 9/11 but that was well after Flight 93 crashed into a field.

[DDRSkata]

Too soon. This movie is entirely too soon.

Also, man never went to the moon, and Elvis is still alive, right?

Are you saying that believing Iraq has no connection to 9-11, that Al Qaeda isn't in Iraq, and that the government implied ties for the sole purpose of invading Iraq is as silly as believing Elvis is still alive?

Because if so, you're stupid. The end.

EDIT: In all this Flight 93 takedown discussion, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the time Rumsfeld mentioned "the plane we shot down over Pennsylvania" by accident in a statement made to the press.

[JLBats]

Hasn't it been proven that it's virtually impossible to use your cell phone on a plane the way the people on Flight 93 supposedly did?

[DDRSkata]

Hasn't it been proven that it's virtually impossible to use your cell phone on a plane the way the people on Flight 93 supposedly did?

You can't actually expect people to think, can you?

[Calvin]

I thought you just couldn't use them on takeoff and landing?

[Lobster Charlie]

Hasn't it been proven that it's virtually impossible to use your cell phone on a plane the way the people on Flight 93 supposedly did?

yep, check those links I posted above.

Its almost comical how the media propogated a story about "heroic passengers fighting the terrorists," as if this was a ready-made movie plot! I guess the reality is just a little too scary to swallow, eh?

[WarBlade]

I thought you just couldn't use them on takeoff and landing?
No that's a requirement put into effect to stop strong radio signals from causing any mischief with the aircraft.

It is possible to use cellphones on planes, although you'll find that it cuts out constantly as the connection has to flick from tower to tower as you fly past.

[Gamma Ray]

I don't understand how some guys with box cutters managed to hijack a plane.

[Kevin Roegele]

And that's the whole porblem. This movie will define what happened in the eyes on many who see it.

[Gamma Ray]

Your sig is wrong. Ryan started the fire.

[WarBlade]

I don't understand how some guys with box cutters managed to hijack a plane.
It's called intimidation. They were able to control individuals by tapping each individual's fear. Presented with the prospect of become the next individual to have their throat slit they simply opted to obey.

It is weird though isn't it? Four guys with knives managing to overcome a whole planeload of people. Had the passengers banded together on all of the planes they probably would have overcome the attackers instead.

[Darth Elektra]

It is weird though isn't it? Four guys with knives managing to overcome a whole planeload of people. Had the passengers banded together on all of the planes they probably would have overcome the attackers instead.

Lets just remember to live and learn.

[Darthkush]

I think it's too soon but i'll probably still go see it...maybe. That trailer made me feel VERY uncomfortable and yet I couldn't take my eyes off of it.

[Shifty]

I don't understand how some guys with box cutters managed to hijack a plane.

The whole operation took two years to plan, the terrorists flew flights before to get down the routines and when the perfect time is to attack, small passenger load, they were all in first class with a few other passengers, they started yelling, killed a man in front of the first class passengers with just a box cutter giving them the psychogical advantage. Then they stormed the cabin, killed the pilots, and paged the plane.

yep, check those links I posted above.

Its almost comical how the media propogated a story about "heroic passengers fighting the terrorists," as if this was a ready-made movie plot! I guess the reality is just a little too scary to swallow, eh?

So they fabricated the flight recorder, taped phone conversations and the victims family memebers went along with this lie?

[Kevin Roegele]

So they fabricated the flight recorder, taped phone conversations and the victims family memebers went along with this lie?

I'm not saying it happened, but I am saying don't rule out anything. You've heard of Operation Northwood.

[Lobster Charlie]

Yeah, google Operation Northwoods and prepared to be shocked and awed, the real way.

I don't know for sure what happened, but I wouldn't put it past the military industrial complex to fabricate whatever story they need to manipulate the masses into rallying behind their plans.

[Kevin Roegele]

Yeah, google Operation Northwoods and prepared to be shocked and awed, the real way.

I don't know for sure what happened, but I wouldn't put it past the military industrial complex to fabricate whatever story they need to manipulate the masses into rallying behind their plans.

It's happened time and time again. Hitler lead Germany into war by similar false flag methods.

[Gamma Ray]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/united_93/


Shockingly, it's at 100% after 6 reviews.

[Galactus]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/united_93/


Shockingly, it's at 100% after 6 reviews.

Why is that shocking? The movie looks more interesting than almost anything released so far this year.

[Liquid Snake]

Seems like the movie was made to keep the ones who know the truth quite, and its a movie, will reach alot of people making them once again believe in patriotic bul**** and the government is a vicitm.

[Master Chief]

100%? Those reviewers are probably just being respectful. Who's really going to nay say this movie? :confused:

Anyway, what's the music in the TV spots? It sounds pretty kickass.