Tim Burton & Johnny Depp Team For 'Sweeney Todd'

[JP]

Alms alms... for a pitiful wooooooman. :(

[Agentsands77]

So 'Kiss Me' is cut, but 'Wait' is in? A song like wait does absolutely nothing for the plot.
Actually, "Wait" does do something for the plot. It helps to establish the arc of Lovett's and Todd's relationship.

Kiss Me is an annoying song anyway
I've always thought it was one of the lovelier moments of the score.

Anthony and Johanna are annoying characters, but still important. :o
That depends entirely on how they're played. With a good actor and actress in the lead, I find them highly enjoyable.

They're execrable on the Lansbury/Hearn DVD, though. :::shudders:::

[JP]

Yeah, I've only ever seen the DVD.. they're so annoying. :(

[Hunter Rider]

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[Mr. Socko]

The porkchop sideburns, the sunken eyes, and the Burtonesque hair looks so great on Depp! I believe Tim Burton has made another brilliant film, I'm going to have to use the phrase again.

Phenomenally nightmarishly superbly enthralling.

[xwolverine2]

beautiful pics

[JP]

Whoa, Anthony is a hottie. :eek:

[Majik1387]

Yes he is :yay:

[MaskedManJRK]

Yes.

1. Opening Title ("The Ballad of Sweeney Todd" instrumental)
2. No Place Like London
3. The Worst Pies in London
4. Poor Thing
5. My Friends
6. Green Finch and Linnett Bird
7. Alms, Alms
8. Johanna
9. Pirelli's Miracle Elixir
10. The Contest
11. Wait
12. Ladies and Their Sensitivities
13. Pretty Women
14. Epiphany
15. A Little Priest
16. Johanna
17. God, That's Good!
18. By the Sea
19. Not While I'm Around
20. Final Scene

None of the Ballads, then? Oh well.

Anthony and Johanna are annoying characters, but still important. :o

Johanna is alright, Anthony annoys me to the point of violence. Then again, I only saw the recent concert version (for those who haven't seen it, it's all on YouTube), so other versions might be better.

[Majik1387]

Johanna, Pretty Women, Johanna and Not While I'm Around are ballad-like.

[JP]

None of the Ballads, then? Oh well.


Yeah, they've been turned into instrumental. Kinda sucks because I alsways like to hear "Swing your razor.." right after "My Friends".

[MaskedManJRK]

Johanna, Pretty Women, Johanna and Not While I'm Around are ballad-like.

No, I meant "The Balad of Sweeney Todd" and all the different versions that are used throught the play.

[Majik1387]

^Ah ok. I can kind of understand why they were changed though

[JP]

Epiphany
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Johanna 2
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My Friends
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[Hunter Rider]

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21491

Slashfilm (http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/15/new-sweeney-todd-photos-and-forgive-tv-ad/) has a new image from Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd, which you can see below, plus a new TV spot, titled 'Forgive', which you can see here (http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/15/new-sweeney-todd-photos-and-forgive-tv-ad/). The video's playing a little jerky when we try to watch it, but there's some new footage in there.

The new image gives us the first full shot of Anthony Hope (Jamie Campbell Bower), the young sailor who returns to London with Sweeney Todd after the latter has been in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Anthony then falls in love with Todd's daughter Johanna, without knowing who her father is, while Todd dances off to merrily slash some throats while singing ditties. We don't want to ruin the movie for you, but all does not go entirely smoothly for any of the characters.

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[MaskedManJRK]

Official Sweeney Todd MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/sweeneytoddmovie

It includes a brief interview with Depp and exclusive clip of "Empithamy."

[Hunter Rider]

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[Brick]

http://i18.tinypic.com/6s8xcsj.jpg
Ha ha, that is classic

[Alina]

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Awesome images:word: When is this movie coming out?

[JP]

Dec. 21st

[terry78]

And here comes another crop of emo kids clamoring to get Sweeney Todd stuff at Hot Topic. Though I pray they don't go so far as to actually mass market the images of a classic musical.

[Agentsands77]

And here comes another crop of emo kids clamoring to get Sweeney Todd stuff at Hot Topic. Though I pray they don't go so far as to actually mass market the images of a classic musical.
You know they will.

[Brick]

And here comes another crop of emo kids clamoring to get Sweeney Todd stuff at Hot Topic. Though I pray they don't go so far as to actually mass market the images of a classic musical.
I'm not emo. I have been a fan of the show for years

[terry78]

Haha, I just want to see the reactions of kids that have never heard of the play before. OMG, a dark tortured soul who wants revenge, AND he carries a razor blade? That's like a double whammy!

[Brick]

I wonder if he cuts himself. Morbid

:woot:

[Heisenberg]

More new posters :o

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[Alina]

Dec. 21st

Thanks for the info!:yay: Oh, Dec. 21st is good. I was afraid somebody might say 2008.

[Warhammer]

I wasn't interested in the film, until I saw the trailer. Damn, the trailer was so good, and for a reason that I can't describe. You can't beat Burton/Depp.

[Mr. Socko]

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This has just made my list of best movie posters of all time *saves*:o

And here comes another crop of emo kids clamoring to get Sweeney Todd stuff at Hot Topic. Though I pray they don't go so far as to actually mass market the images of a classic musical.

They just have to take over everything.:csad:

I wasn't interested in the film, until I saw the trailer. Damn, the trailer was so good, and for a reason that I can't describe. You can't beat Burton/Depp.

Personally, they are my favorite actor/director team.:up:

Right now, this is the only movie I'm longing to see for the rest of the year.

[Warhammer]

This and I Am Legend got me this December. :up:

[Mr. Socko]

This and I Am Legend got me this December. :up:


Ooh, almost forgot about Legend. That one looks good as well.

[Catman]

IMDb Poll

December release to which you are most looking forward?
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street 3848 (22.3%) :)
I Am Legend 3312 (19.2%)
There Will Be Blood 1715 (9.9%)
The Golden Compass 1694 (9.8%)
National Treasure: Book of Secrets 1258 (7.3%)
None. 791 (4.6%)
Juno 748 (4.3%)
Atonement 711 (4.1%)
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem 671 (3.9%)
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story 427 (2.5%)
Charlie Wilson's War 424 (2.5%)
P.S., I Love You 248 (1.4%)
The Bucket List 209 (1.2%)
The Kite Runner 182 (1.1%)
Youth Without Youth 165 (1.0%)
Cassandra's Dream 147 (0.9%)
All! 146 (0.8%)
Persepolis 130 (0.8%)
Alvin and the Chipmunks 123 (0.7%)
Other! 120 (0.7%)
Grace Is Gone 66 (0.4%)
The Orphanage 65 (0.4%)
The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep 27 (0.2%)
The Great Debaters 25 (0.1%)
The Amateurs 14 (0.1%)
Flakes 13 (0.1%)
The Perfect Holiday 8 (0.0%)

A total of 17287 votes were collected.

[Rac]

IMDb Poll

December release to which you are most looking forward?
Atonement 711 (4.1%)
Persepolis 130 (0.8%)

Great movies. Highly recommended. Persepolis is imo the best comic book movie of the year. (300 is a 2006 movie.)

[Drizzle]

IMDb Poll

December release to which you are most looking forward?
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street 3848 (22.3%) :)
I Am Legend 3312 (19.2%)
There Will Be Blood 1715 (9.9%)
The Golden Compass 1694 (9.8%)
National Treasure: Book of Secrets 1258 (7.3%)
None. 791 (4.6%)
Juno 748 (4.3%)
Atonement 711 (4.1%)
Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem 671 (3.9%)
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story 427 (2.5%)
Charlie Wilson's War 424 (2.5%)
P.S., I Love You 248 (1.4%)
The Bucket List 209 (1.2%)
The Kite Runner 182 (1.1%)
Youth Without Youth 165 (1.0%)
Cassandra's Dream 147 (0.9%)
All! 146 (0.8%)
Persepolis 130 (0.8%)
Alvin and the Chipmunks 123 (0.7%)
Other! 120 (0.7%)
Grace Is Gone 66 (0.4%)
The Orphanage 65 (0.4%)
The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep 27 (0.2%)
The Great Debaters 25 (0.1%)
The Amateurs 14 (0.1%)
Flakes 13 (0.1%)
The Perfect Holiday 8 (0.0%)

A total of 17287 votes were collected.

Good news about "Sweeney". I'm just sad "Walk Hard" isn't higher up on that poll. :csad:

[Hunter Rider]

Featurette (11.27.07):

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[Spider-Fan]

I can't wait to see this :up:

[TEDDY]

Hey, a little off-subject, but remember the story of Kevin Smith's "rivalry" with Tim Burton on the Evening with Kevin Smith dvd? About how, when Burton's PotA remake came arround, he joked around about Tim stealling the idea for the "Ape-headed Lincoln memorial" bit from his Chasing Dogma comic?


You think someone durring one of his college campus forums will ask how it feels to inspire Burton to Sweeney Todd?

(For those out of the loop here, in Jersey Girls, Affleck's daughter decides to do the "MEATPIES" number from Sweeney Todd for the father-daughter school performance)

[Road Warrior]

This made me laugh. :woot:

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http://www.tmz.com/2007/11/27/johnny-depp-and-tim-burton-shopping-buddies/

[MaskedManJRK]

Hey, a little off-subject, but remember the story of Kevin Smith's "rivalry" with Tim Burton on the Evening with Kevin Smith dvd? About how, when Burton's PotA remake came arround, he joked around about Tim stealling the idea for the "Ape-headed Lincoln memorial" bit from his Chasing Dogma comic?


You think someone durring one of his college campus forums will ask how it feels to inspire Burton to Sweeney Todd?

(For those out of the loop here, in Jersey Girls, Affleck's daughter decides to do the "MEATPIES" number from Sweeney Todd for the father-daughter school performance)

Did that actually inspire Burton to do Sweeney? If so, that would be SO ironic. :woot:

[Apollo]

This made me laugh. :woot:

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http://www.tmz.com/2007/11/27/johnny-depp-and-tim-burton-shopping-buddies/


looks like he is grabbing for the fairly odd parents dolls.

[Mr. Socko]

Look at Tim's eyes. They're peaking over at the comic books. That closet comic fan. :oldrazz:


Oh and great vid, Hunter. I'm very excited for this! I agree the chair going backwards landing the victims headfirst is an improvement too. :up:

[Bastila]

Look at Tim's eyes. They're peaking over at the comic books. That closet comic fan. :oldrazz:


The comics are down stairs :oldrazz: I go to that store in london loads and the one week I was going to go then change my mind JD and TB go there :csad:

[Catman]

The comics are down stairs :oldrazz: I go to that store in london loads and the one week I was going to go then change my mind JD and TB go there :csad:

God has a great sense of humor.

[tupelohoney]

Featurette (11.27.07):

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Nice clip!!

That second trailer was great...gave a lot more feel for the film...followed-up with this behind-the-scenes look...I just can't wait til the 21st!!! :wow:

[JP]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=%20%203789&Itemid=99

Bunch of clips.

This film looks amaaaazing. :eek:

[Spider-Fan]

Hey, a little off-subject, but remember the story of Kevin Smith's "rivalry" with Tim Burton on the Evening with Kevin Smith dvd? About how, when Burton's PotA remake came arround, he joked around about Tim stealling the idea for the "Ape-headed Lincoln memorial" bit from his Chasing Dogma comic?


You think someone durring one of his college campus forums will ask how it feels to inspire Burton to Sweeney Todd?

(For those out of the loop here, in Jersey Girls, Affleck's daughter decides to do the "MEATPIES" number from Sweeney Todd for the father-daughter school performance)

You know what, I never made that connection before, but man, that is weird :wow:

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=%20%203789&Itemid=99

Bunch of clips.

This film looks amaaaazing. :eek:


:wow::wow::wow:

Didn't watch all of the movie clips, but I loved the behind the scenes look and featurettes.

:o:o:o

[Apollo]

so how long is this movie going to be, wiki says 105 mins? but last month wiki said 135 minutes.

[Carmine Falcone]

I watched some of those clips. Looks pretty good.

[Agentsands77]

so how long is this movie going to be, wiki says 105 mins? but last month wiki said 135 minutes.
Roughly 1 hr, 55 min (with credits).

[Bond]

This movie will pwn.

[Bond]

double

[The Chris]

This film has some fantastic posters. This is gonna be a Burton/Depp home run.

[Binker]

Any dl links to the 8 clips?

[-Æ-]

Wow this movie has like 4 of my favorite actors in it, there is no doubt I will be seeing this movie opening night!

[Arkady Rossovich]

I saw a commerical,it reminds me of something gothic.

[Brick]

I'm still very annoyed that "Kiss Me" is not in the film

[Bubonic]

This might be the first musical I really enjoy!

[xwolverine2]

I saw a commerical,it reminds me of something gothic.

tim burton........... lol:woot:

[Majik1387]

I don't like Tobias.:csad::down

[JP]

He's probably my favorite so far. :heart:

[Majik1387]

Figures.:o:down

[JP]

Toby has always been my favorite character. And I'm glad they didn't ruin him. Unlike Carter as Lovett.

think she's the worst so far. :down

[Mr. Socko]

Toby has always been my favorite character. And I'm glad they didn't ruin him. Unlike Carter as Lovett.

think she's the worst so far. :down


He was obliged to do it least we forget:whatever:

[Majik1387]

By far I think Pirelli's the worst so far.:down

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Hyped about yet another successful Burton/Depp combo! Too bad there's a lack of Elfman in it though!

[JP]

By far I think Pirelli's the worst so far.:down

Yeah, not liking him either.

[Majik1387]

Hyped about yet another successful Burton/Depp combo! Too bad there's a lack of Elfman in it though!

I prefer Sondheim to Elfman

[JP]

Sondheim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Elfman

[Mr. Socko]

I prefer Sondheim to Elfman


I think keep keeping Sondheim's music was a brilliant idea. This is an exception where I'll allow Tim to not work with Elfman.:o

[Mr.E.Nygma]

well, I will not add anything that could ruin the calm conversations on the thread, it would be stupid. Never heard Sondheim, but my alligeance to Elfman is too powerful to change my mind, muhahahaha!

[JP]

http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/

Official site is up.

[Agentsands77]

The majority of the soundtrack is up on that site. On the "Enter the Site" page, you can hear the whole of the "Ballad" instrumental that they're using as an Overture. Once you're in the site, you can hear large chunks of most of the songs, including all of "A Little Priest" (but they're clearly the soundtrack versions of the cues, since they omit any of the dialogue moments).

I genuinely like the whole cast, singing and otherwise. That's not to say that everybody has a good or great singing voice. Often, it's the opposite. But they still work for the character and make their songs compelling, regardless of vocal talents.

I'm especially fond of HBC's Mrs. Lovett. Not a good voice, per se, but she has a fascinating sound and successfully reinterprets the character. No wonder she was Sondheim's favorite.

[Mr. Socko]

well, I will not add anything that could ruin the calm conversations on the thread, it would be stupid. Never heard Sondheim, but my alligeance to Elfman is too powerful to change my mind, muhahahaha!

Don't get me wrong, I like Elfman too. Still love his betelgeuse theme:o

http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/

Official site is up.

:up: Plz tell me there is wallpaper on there.

[Mr.E.Nygma]

cool site!

[Brick]

I have heard Helena Bonham Carter described as a english rose, she is more like a dead rose on the grave of some 19th century goth

[Majik1387]

well, I will not add anything that could ruin the calm conversations on the thread, it would be stupid. Never heard Sondheim, but my alligeance to Elfman is too powerful to change my mind, muhahahaha!
Well Sondheim is the composer of the Broadway show and they got him for the movie, I think he is a much better choice for the musical compositions than Elfman
Don't get me wrong, I like Elfman too. Still love his betelgeuse theme:o
Beetlejuice or Beetleguese.:cmad:

[MaskedManJRK]

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=%20%203789&Itemid=99

Bunch of clips.

This film looks amaaaazing. :eek:

I'm really digging this now. Depp kinda has some Sparrow-like movements in it, but, since he's playing a character in the same period and been practically doing so for two or three years, I can let it slide. Plus that clip of Empithony is just righteous.

Helena hasn't done that well in the clip for "A Little Priest," but the other stuff I've heard is enough to withhold judgement, for now.

The only unfortunate part of the clips is we don't hear Rickman singing.

[Majik1387]

You hear him in Pretty Women in the official site

[MaskedManJRK]

You hear him in Pretty Women in the official site

Just saw the link for the site, so excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me! :cmad: :oldrazz:

Anyone know if they're releasing a soundtrack for the movie?

[Majik1387]

It's a musical so I think it's a given that there will be a soundtrack.

[JP]

Single and 2 disc editions

[Catman]

Beetlejuice or Beetleguese.:cmad:

Actually...its Betelgeuse. The studio (Warner Bros) was worried that people wouldn't be able to read it properly so they spelled the title "Beetlejuice".

[Majik1387]

On the gravestone and fake commercials in the movie it says Beetleguese, with two E's after the B

[Catman]

On the gravestone and fake commercials in the movie it says Beetleguese, with two E's after the B

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[MaskedManJRK]

Single and 2 disc editions

Sweet. Any word on the release date?

Slightly sucky thing though with "A Little Priest" on the site--they took out one of my favorite lines, how everyone goes down well with beer. :csad: That was f**king hilarious. :csad:

[Apollo]

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damn, Majik just got owned! :wow:

and to think.. i thought he knew everything :csad:

[Majik1387]

1D8mfYGa-UU
:huh:
My mistake, I could sworn it was Beetleguese. Damn movie being confusing using two different spellings of the name.:cmad:
damn, Majik just got owned! :wow:

and to think.. i thought he knew everything :csad:
Why did you think that? :huh:
Sure I'm educated about a lot, but everything? That's a really high credential to live up to.:oldrazz:

[Rac]

Sweet. Any word on the release date?
December 18.

[Catman]

December 18.

I thought it was 21st :huh:

[Rac]

Amazon.com says 18th.

EDIT: Oh, you meant the movie. We were talking about the OST.

[Catman]

We were talking about the OST.

Oops! My bad. :o :csad:

[Mr. Socko]

Why did you think that? :huh:
Sure I'm educated about a lot, but everything? That's a really high credential to live up to.:oldrazz:

Don't worry. He just had you confused with me.

[Majik1387]

Don't worry. He just had you confused with me.

No if that were the case then it would be the total opposite idea.:whatever::cwink:

[Agentsands77]

Here are direct download links for the sound clips on the official site:

Overture (The Ballad of Sweeney Todd) (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/media/audio/home.mp3)
No Place Like London (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/noplacelikelondon.mp3)
The Worst Pies in London (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/worstpiesinlondon.mp3)
Green Finch and Linnet Bird (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/greenfinch.mp3)
Johanna (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/johanna.mp3)
Pirelli's Miracle Elixir (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/pirellis.mp3)
Pretty Women (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/prettywomen.mp3)
Epiphany (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/epiphany.mp3)
A Little Priest (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/alittlepriest.mp3) (full song!)
By the Sea (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/bythesea.mp3)

[french joker]

thanks you very much !

[Mr. Socko]

No if that were the case then it would be the total opposite idea.:whatever::cwink:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9863/23ao4.gif

:oldrazz:

Here are direct download links for the sound clips on the official site:

Overture (The Ballad of Sweeney Todd) (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/media/audio/home.mp3)
No Place Like London (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/noplacelikelondon.mp3)
The Worst Pies in London (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/worstpiesinlondon.mp3)
Green Finch and Linnet Bird (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/greenfinch.mp3)
Johanna (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/johanna.mp3)
Pirelli's Miracle Elixir (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/pirellis.mp3)
Pretty Women (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/prettywomen.mp3)
Epiphany (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/epiphany.mp3)
A Little Priest (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/alittlepriest.mp3) (full song!)
By the Sea (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/bythesea.mp3)

Excellent, thank you good sir!

[Catman]

Here are direct download links for the sound clips on the official site:

Overture (The Ballad of Sweeney Todd) (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/media/audio/home.mp3)
No Place Like London (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/noplacelikelondon.mp3)
The Worst Pies in London (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/worstpiesinlondon.mp3)
Green Finch and Linnet Bird (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/greenfinch.mp3)
Johanna (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/johanna.mp3)
Pirelli's Miracle Elixir (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/pirellis.mp3)
Pretty Women (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/prettywomen.mp3)
Epiphany (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/epiphany.mp3)
A Little Priest (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/alittlepriest.mp3) (full song!)
By the Sea (http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/site/media/audio/bythesea.mp3)

:up:

[Apollo]

does anyone have any Gif animations of the movie? I want to also try and make my own, but i don't know how.

[Catman]

L.A. Times named Sweeney Todd the best movie of 2007!
http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/11/finally-we-have.html

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[dark_b]

i am shocked.

[Catman]

This scene is AWESOME! :woot:

dHaLsilVU7k

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Great clip indeed Catman, can't wait for December 21!!!!

[Rac]

Great. Finnish date got pushed back til 29th February. :dry:

[Mr. Socko]

L.A. Times named Sweeney Todd the best movie of 2007!
http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/11/finally-we-have.html

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Amazing! I'm so excited for this:woot: The original musical run won several Tony's, with material this great, I'm not all too surprised. Just imagine Burton and Depp winning Oscars for their respective roles:cwink:

Great. Finnish date got pushed back til 29th February. :dry:

Whaaaaat?

[Bastila]

Cool Clip Catman lol Borat guy (forgot his name) sounds so weird singing lol.

[Cinemaman]

Damn, here in Russia it comes out only in March :( :down

[Catman]

Great. Finnish date got pushed back til 29th February. :dry:

Damn, here in Russia it comes out only in March :( :down

Bootleg... :huh: :o

Just imagine Burton and Depp winning Oscars for their respective roles:cwink:

After 22 years I'd say its about time.

[Catman]

http://www.tensionbreaker.com/2007/11/edward-scissorhands-vs-sweeney-todd.html

^ LOL :woot:

[Rac]

Bootleg... :huh: :o
If a DVDscreener or R5 happens to leak before 29th Feb. I hope they do some advance screenings with this.

[tupelohoney]

http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/

Official site is up.

Yeah the site is sweet, indeed!!! Lovin' the graphics...:woot:

Cool Clip Catman lol Borat guy (forgot his name) sounds so weird singing lol.

Sacha Baron Cohen...it is interesting to see him in this type of film/role...I'm definitely intrigued!!

[Catman]

Sacha Baron Cohen...it is interesting to see him in this type of film/role...I'm definitely intrigued!!

He was the ideal guy for this role.

[fcrowelle06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A2RX0JCvzI

hey guys go to the link, full song from Sweeney Todd, with Johnny and Helena Bonham Carter singing, it's great,Johnny sounds like a British Rocker

[Apollo]

theres a bunch of behind the scene videos on youtube, really neat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-jOI-bhEE&feature=related

[Catman]

"In a reflection of the lack of heavyweight pictures and performances favored for potential Academy Award nominations, the National Board spread around its awards to a number of movies and actors. Tim Burton was named Best Director for Sweeney Todd"

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:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A2RX0JCvzI

hey guys go to the link, full song from Sweeney Todd, with Johnny and Helena Bonham Carter singing, it's great,Johnny sounds like a British Rocker

Thank you. I was originally skeptical about Depp's singing voice but he was quite decent with Priest but I believe there are some lyrics missing in this one.

"In a reflection of the lack of heavyweight pictures and performances favored for potential Academy Award nominations, the National Board spread around its awards to a number of movies and actors. Tim Burton was named Best Director for Sweeney Todd"

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:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

That would be so great if Burton won, it's really about time.

[Majik1387]

Thank you. I was originally skeptical about Depp's singing voice but he was quite decent with Priest but I believe there are some lyrics missing in this one.
There were but it's because I don't think they wanna give away that much from the movie.

[Apollo]

this has been getting some good reviews on rottentomatoes, even though its to early, they are already coming in :)

[Secret_Riddle]

8.5 average score, and a 100 percent.

[Untilteld]

can't wait :D

[Apollo]

getting good reviews at rotten tomatoes so far

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1183955-sweeney_todd_the_demon_barber_of_fleet_street/

[Catman]

CRITIC CHOICE AWARDS NOMINEES

Picture: "American Gangster," "Atonement," "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," "Into the Wild," "Juno," "The Kite Runner," "Michael Clayton," "No Country for Old Men," "Sweeney Todd," "There Will Be Blood."

Actor: George Clooney, "Michael Clayton"; Daniel Day-Lewis, "There Will Be Blood"; Johnny Depp, "Sweeney Todd"; Ryan Gosling, "Lars and the Real Girl"; Emile Hirsch, "Into the Wild"; Viggo Mortensen, "Eastern Promises."

Actress: Amy Adams, "Enchanted"; Cate Blanchett, "Elizabeth: The Golden Age"; Julie Christie, "Away From Her"; Marion Cotillard, "La Vie en Rose"; Angelina Jolie, "A Mighty Heart"; Page, "Juno."

Supporting Actor: Casey Affleck, "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"; Javier Bardem, "No Country for Old Men"; Philip Seymour Hoffman, "Charlie Wilson's War"; Hal Holbrook, "Into the Wild"; Tom Wilkinson, "Michael Clayton."

Supporting Actress: Cate Blanchett, "I'm Not There"; Catherine Keener, "Into the Wild"; Vanessa Redgrave, "Atonement"; Amy Ryan, "Gone Baby Gone"; Tilda Swinton, "Michael Clayton."

Acting Ensemble: "Hairspray," "Juno," "No Country for Old Men," "Sweeney Todd," "Gone Baby Gone," "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead."

Director: Tim Burton, "Sweeney Todd"; Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men"; Sidney Lumet, "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead"; Sean Penn, "Into the Wild"; Julian Schnabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"; Joe Wright, "Atonement."

Writer: Diablo Cody, "Juno"; Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men"; Tony Gilroy, "Michael Clayton"; Nancy Oliver, "Lars and the Real Girl"; Sean Penn, "Into the Wild"; Aaron Sorkin, "Charlie Wilson's War."

Animated Feature: "Bee Movie," "Beowulf," "Persepolis," "Ratatouille," "The Simpsons Movie."

Young Actor: Cera, "Juno"; Michael Cera, "Superbad"; Freddie Highmore, "August Rush"; Ahmad Khan Mahmoodzada, "The Kite Runner"; Edward Sanders, "Sweeney Todd."

Young Actress: Nikki Blonsky, "Hairspray"; Dakota Blue Richards, "The Golden Compass"; AnnaSophia Robb, "Bridge to Terabithia"; Saoirse Ronan, "Atonement."

Comedy: "Dan in Real Life," "Hairspray," "Juno," "Knocked Up," "Superbad."

Family Film (live action): "August Rush," "Enchanted," "The Golden Compass," "Hairspray," "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix."

Picture Made for Television: "The Company," "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee," "Tin Man," "The War."

Foreign Language Film: "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," "4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days," "La Vie en Rose," "Lust, Caution," "The Orphanage."

Song: "Come So Far," Queen Latifah, Nikki Blonsky, Zac Efron, Elijah Kelley, "Hairspray"; "Do You Feel Me," Anthony Hamilton, "American Gangster"; "Falling Slowly," Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova, "Once"; "Guaranteed," Eddie Vedder, "Into the Wild"; "That's How You Know," Amy Adams, "Enchanted."

Composer: Marco Beltrami, "3:10 to Yuma"; Alexandre Desplat, "Lust, Caution"; Clint Eastwood, "Grace Is Gone"; Jonny Greenwood, "There Will Be Blood"; Dario Marianelli, "Atonement"; Alan Menken, "Enchanted."

Documentary Feature: "Darfur Now," "In the Shadow of the Moon," "The King of Kong," "No End In Sight," "Sharkwater," "Sicko."

[Apollo]

awesome News!! http://smilies.vidahost.com/cwm/cwm/spiny.gif

[Mr. Socko]

http://www.broadwayworld.com/videoplay.cfm?colid=23667

The opening credit sequence of Sweeney Todd. Quite stylistic, looks great.

[Apollo]

This was listed on rottentomatoes as a good review.... it seems bad to me..


Director Tim Burton’s screen adaptation of Stephen Sondheim’s 1979 Grand Guignol musical is at once mesmerizing and disappointing. Outstanding singing performances from its gifted ensemble cast contrast unfavorably with Burton’s trademark affinity for a drab monochromatic color scheme of white, blue, brown and gray. Gallons of orange/red blood pour out beneath thankfully abbreviated songs performed in all-too-predictable orchestrations meant to cater to Broadway audiences familiar with the original Sondheim production. For such an idyllic gothic setting, Burton misses his cue to update the songs with orchestration, reharmonization, tempo, and key changes that could have corrected the music’s tendency to slip into a drone of same-sounding pitches.

http://filmcritic1963.typepad.com/capsules/2007/12/sweeney-todd-th.html

[War Party]

This was listed on rottentomatoes as a good review.... it seems bad to me..


Director Tim Burton’s screen adaptation of Stephen Sondheim’s 1979 Grand Guignol musical is at once mesmerizing and disappointing. Outstanding singing performances from its gifted ensemble cast contrast unfavorably with Burton’s trademark affinity for a drab monochromatic color scheme of white, blue, brown and gray. Gallons of orange/red blood pour out beneath thankfully abbreviated songs performed in all-too-predictable orchestrations meant to cater to Broadway audiences familiar with the original Sondheim production. For such an idyllic gothic setting, Burton misses his cue to update the songs with orchestration, reharmonization, tempo, and key changes that could have corrected the music’s tendency to slip into a drone of same-sounding pitches.

http://filmcritic1963.typepad.com/capsules/2007/12/sweeney-todd-th.html

But the reviewer gave it a B, hence a positive review.

[Catman]

This was listed on rottentomatoes as a good review.... it seems bad to me..


Director Tim Burton’s screen adaptation of Stephen Sondheim’s 1979 Grand Guignol musical is at once mesmerizing and disappointing. Outstanding singing performances from its gifted ensemble cast contrast unfavorably with Burton’s trademark affinity for a drab monochromatic color scheme of white, blue, brown and gray. Gallons of orange/red blood pour out beneath thankfully abbreviated songs performed in all-too-predictable orchestrations meant to cater to Broadway audiences familiar with the original Sondheim production. For such an idyllic gothic setting, Burton misses his cue to update the songs with orchestration, reharmonization, tempo, and key changes that could have corrected the music’s tendency to slip into a drone of same-sounding pitches.

http://filmcritic1963.typepad.com/capsules/2007/12/sweeney-todd-th.html

Meh. The critic is just nitpicking.

[Apollo]

ooo ok, didn't notice he gave it a B

[AlteredEgo]

http://www.sweeneytoddmovie.com/mashup/show.php?id=1810

i made a trailer guys. :D

[Heisenberg]

Opening credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIvH5BjEcU

Edit: ...nevermind. Repost. Still, looks great.

[Apollo]

^ i didn't know it was a dreamworks movie also.

[Catman]

Opening credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIvH5BjEcU

Tim Burton movies have the best opening credits.

[Agentsands77]

What I find interesting about SWEENEY TODD's opening credits is that it seems *very* self-referential. It's like Burton is purposefully recalling some of his previous films (namely, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, BATMAN RETURNS, CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY) and is mixing it all up with blood.

[Catman]

VH1 is airing a behind the scenes special on FRIDAY

[Catman]

4 Golden Globe Nominations

Best Picture (Comedy or Musical)
Best Director
Best Actor (Comedy or Musical)
Best Actress (Comedy or Musical)

[french joker]

go Tim, go !

[Mr. Socko]

VH1 is airing a behind the scenes special on FRIDAY

It is on right now. It's good but I missed the first half. I'm sure they'll replay it, it's 30 minutes long btw which is pretty nice for a preview.

[Apollo]

i hope it wins something :yay:

[Catman]

It is on right now. It's good but I missed the first half. I'm sure they'll replay it, it's 30 minutes long btw which is pretty nice for a preview.

I missed it. :csad:

[Cmill216]

I'll be seeing the film Tuesday during a special screening.

[Catman]

VH1 is re-airing the Sweeney Todd BTS at 2:30am! :woot:

I'll be seeing the film Tuesday during a special screening.

Lucky bastard :cmad:

[echostation]

i saw this film at a known preview up in Bircham... it was ok... it was a film

[Apollo]

13 fresh reviews and 1 rotten review on rottentomatoes so far.

[Road Warrior]

Helena Bonham Carter, Burton have second baby
1 hour, 4 minutes ago

British actress Helena Bonham Carter has given birth to a daughter, her second child with director Tim Burton, People magazine reported on Sunday.
The baby was born in London on Saturday, People said, quoting the actress' publicist. The couple already have a 4-year-old son, Billy.
Bonham Carter, 41, received a Golden Globe nomination last week for her role as a ghoulish baker in Burton's musical adaptation "Sweeney Todd," which opens in limited release on Friday. Burton, 49, was also nominated.
She revealed in the latest issue of Playboy that she became pregnant midway during the production, causing continuity problems since the film was not shot in sequence.
"I start off with huge breasts, and then I walk upstairs and suddenly I've got tangerines again," she said. "It's melons to tangerines."

(Reporting by Dean Goodman; editing by Mohammad Zargham)

[Apollo]

20 Fresh and 2 rotten reviews on rottentomatoes so far :)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1183955-sweeney_todd_the_demon_barber_of_fleet_street/

[Road Warrior]

Got the soundtrack. Its good. :yay:

[Apollo]

4 more days! :woot:

[Cmill216]

I'm off to the special screening. I'll give you all the lowdown when I get back. :)

[Argyle of Sock]

20 Fresh and 2 rotten reviews on rottentomatoes so far :)

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1183955-sweeney_todd_the_demon_barber_of_fleet_street/

22 fresh, 2 rotten now.

92%

Woot!

[Cmill216]

Well, I just got back from a special screening of the film, sponsored by a local radio station in Florida. It was a big theatre, full stadium seating, and it was a good 95% full. No trailers, so it was right to the good stuff.

Ironically, I had no real intention of seeing the film before I got the passes for tonight's screening. I dig Tim Burton and Depp, but I just wasn't quite hyped to see this film. So it must have been fate for me to have my butt in that seat tonight, because this movie was flat out amazing. Burton may have outdone himself with this one, combining his usual moody, gothic flair with another tremendous Depp performance for a wicked good time at the movies.

The cinematography, lighting, costume design. All top notch. And, of course, the blood. Oh yes, there are BUCKETS of it. And the throat cutting never gets old. :D :up: Big kudos to Helena Bonham Carter who really makes this film. Definitely a Best Supporting Actress nod in her future, as her character is so oddly lovable and an excellent compliment to Depp.

And then there's the music. I didn't realize how much of a musical this film was going to be, so it took me a while to really get a feel for it. There's a lot of music, and yet you're intoxicated by it all. The score is outstanding, and all of the songs flow so well through the story, even to the point of connecting plot points and arcs all by themselves.

Simply put, Sweeney Todd is a macabre masterpiece. Brutal, touching, funny, and deliriously magical. One of the best films I've seen all year. Easily.

Grade: A

[Cito]

That's excellent to hear. Buckets of blood sounds delightful and Helena Bonham Carter makes any movie awesome.

Perfect Christmas movie.

[Apollo]

40 Fresh, 6 rotten so far at rottentomatoes! with a 87%

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1183955-sweeney_todd_the_demon_barber_of_fleet_street/

[Untilteld]

I'll be seeing it tonight :up:

[StrainedEyes]

Just saw it, this movie was awesome. Perfectly crafted and oh so bloody.
I never saw the play, but it really is a great musical. I love just how much music there is and how interlaced it is with the story. Especially when just a few lines here and there in the normal dialogue is sung. It really works as a musical story and not just a story with random songs in it.

[Catman]

I'm gonna see this tomorrow. :up:

[hammy]

Just saw it, this movie was awesome. Perfectly crafted and oh so bloody.
I never saw the play, but it really is a great musical. I love just how much music there is and how interlaced it is with the story. Especially when just a few lines here and there in the normal dialogue is sung. It really works as a musical story and not just a story with random songs in it.

I wanted to see it til I saw that. :(

[DarthSkywalker]

Amazing film. Depp is so incredible at what he does and his singing is just as good as his acting.

[Drizzle]

Great movie, one of the best of '07. The cast was brilliant and Burtonis back on his A-game.

[hammy]

Is it suitable for a sensitive female to see? :(

[StrainedEyes]

Is it suitable for a sensitive female to see? :(

It's bloody, but the blood is so red that it's stylized. I don't know, it really depends on what your limit is. What gory thing have you watched that you couldn't take?

Most of the kills are quick and just a lot of blood spurting. But when he kills the judge it gets pretty brutal.

It's not like intestines and what not, it's purely just blood throughout the whole movie. Though there may be some shadowy shots of body parts. :cwink:

[hammy]

Saw, for instance. It's not just the blood, it's the circumstances. If it's a quick and relatively painless thing that's easier to take than someone being tortured or something. :( :( :(

[StrainedEyes]

Saw, for instance. It's not just the blood, it's the circumstances. If it's a quick and relatively painless thing that's easier to take than someone being tortured or something. :( :( :(

I'd say there's 3 lingering deaths in the movie, the one's with meaning. The others are all quick and light hearted. The whole feeling of the movie is completely different than saw. This feels like art, saw feels like a snuff film.

Worst comes to worst, just look away for a second. But, this movie isn't meant to be scary, like Saw, so the atmosphere is no where near as unforgiving.

[hammy]

Okay. Thanks. :yay:

[batfan1028]

Great film!this is due to the superb cast they had.I especially loved sacha baron cohen's character as he was much needed humor in an insanely dark and stylized film.Overall I trully recommedn it but be warned that this is a full on musical the commercials just hint on the music so you may be shocked that the first line of true dialouge is like 20 minutes in the film as 90% of the film is singing.Plus you may be shocked at the Kill Bill like blood and gore.I was surprised by it the first time Sweeney slit a thorat but the rest of the time it is played out as very dark humor.

[terry78]

I would compare it to a slightly more blood filled Little Shop of Horrors.

[Bond]

I didn't have time to see it today :(

I'll probably see it tomorrow though.

[Untilteld]

Correction: I'll be seeing it tomorrow.

[Bond]

I'm too lazy to edit.

[Fran]

Loved this movie so much. Such a tragic ending, made my heart sink so much.

My girlfriend was tearing up at the end, I almost did. :o

10/10

[War Party]

Fantastic film. I'll go into it further later.

[Indrid Cold]

My vote for best film of the year! I LOVED this film so much! Listening to the soundtrack as I type. I love the "Pirelli's Miracle Elixir" track.

[xwolverine2]

good movie overall....

i loved the style and look of it, and the humor was great.
however the music wasnt memorable at all to me, and alot of it was repeated especially that stupid "i feel you, joanna" song, that became a joke after the first time, not sure if that was intended or not, but it was annoying as hell.
the cast couldnt sing to save their lives... except for the johanna girl.

8 out of 10... but my rating might change after a while, because i certainly think its a good movie but i wouldnt wanna watch it again, like sleepy hollow and most of tim burtons newer movies.

[Indrid Cold]

good movie overall....

i loved the style and look of it, and the humor was great.
however the music wasnt memorable at all to me, and alot of it was repeated especially that stupid "i feel you, joanna" song, that became a joke after the first time, not sure if that was intended or not, but it was annoying as hell.
the cast couldnt sing to save their lives... except for the johanna girl.

8 out of 10... but my rating might change after a while, because i certainly think its a good movie but i wouldnt wanna watch it again, like sleepy hollow and most of tim burtons newer movies.

I agree SOME of Burtons NEW movies aren't that great but, I can watch Sleepy Hollow any day of the week. Now Planet of the Apes is a different matter. The fact that these actors aren't classically trained in musical theater, I'd say they sang very well. In fact this musical has some of the trickiest dialogue and musical cues on Broadway.

[Drizzle]

the cast couldnt sing to save their lives... except for the johanna girl.


Were we watching the same movie? Because I thought the cast sang very well.

[StrainedEyes]

Were we watching the same movie? Because I thought the cast sang very well.

Yeah, frankly the Johanna girl was the worst in my opinion. Freakishly high pitched.

[Drizzle]

Yeah, frankly the Johanna girl was the worst in my opinion. Freakishly high pitched.

Depp's singing voice sounded a lot like David Bowie, especially during "Epiphany".

[StrainedEyes]

I loved Depp's voice. His acting through singing was really top notch.


Did anyone else think that Johnny was totally channeling Edward Scissor Hands during the wedding fantasy? It was the stance and awkwardness. It was the only time he reminded me of Eddie.

That sequence is hilarious by the way. Todd in his bathing suit is priceless.

[Majik1387]

Well no surprise, I wasn't happy with Toby at all, or Pirelli. Everyone else though I loved. Was a bit upset they took away the whore aspect of beggar woman, felt it took away from the character. I usually hate the character of Johanna but she didn't bother me here. My complaint with Sweeney's character is that he was so into getting revenge on Judge Turpin, it felt like he forgot he had a daughter. Loved Mrs. Lovett. Antony won my heart.:O I was happy they cut most of Bailey's and Johanna's singing.:up:
I am a bit curious as to hear/see how Burton would have incorporated a ghost chorus.

[TNC9852002]

I had no real expectations since I didn't know much of anything about the play at all, so I ended up really liking the movie.

-TNC

[JP]

The entire cast was fantastic. ESPECIALLY Toby and Pirelli.

[Majik1387]

Of course you'd disagree with me.:o

But it's cool, I have good taste, you have bad.:o










:cwink::oldrazz:

[JP]

Actually, the only weak person for me was Helena. She wasn't as bad as I was expecting. As a matter of fact she surprised me. Just not fantastic.

[Majik1387]

Was anyone else disturbed by Pirelli's and Turpin's crotch shadows?

[Agentsands77]

The entire cast was fantastic. ESPECIALLY Toby and Pirelli.
Agreed. Toby and Pirelli couldn't have been cast any better.

[bullets]

God, why don't they just admit it and get married.



johnny depp is tim burton's on screen persona .

[bullets]

this is the best burton flick ive seen in a while . depp's sweeney todd was right on point . all the actors came through . the singing seemed odd at first but blends in very well after the first half hour . it was alot of fun , toby and pirelli's scenes were great . the most enjoyable part for me was the "by the sea" song . i dont know how this compares to other versions but i think it was a worthy effort.

[The Guard]

The best thing about SWEENEY TODD is the way that Tim Burton and his writers managed to elevate the material from the musical. So much rich detail was added that really fleshed things out that, in the musical, you don't even have time to imagine during some of the songs. The entire cast was excellent, even though most of them were clearly not highly trained singers (they had some coaching, that much was obvious). Depp was masterful, and this is one of Burton's better films. An absolutely spectacular achievement.

[K.B.]

Saw it last night and I give it 5 out of 5. Great flick.

[Jack_Sparrow789]

I saw it at the midnight showing Thursday, and again last night. It was simply incredible, and worth the 11 months spent in eager anticipation!

[Jack_Sparrow789]

Blarg! double post!

[Tempest19]

Really dark, creepy and great. 10 out of 10 without a doubt.

Never saw the play, so the ending caught me by surprise and everything with his wife/beggar made sense in the end. Really tragic, if only he was told the truth things probably would have been not as twisted...

[Spider-Fan]

Saw this last night, and loved it. I never read or saw the play, so I can't speak for its accuracy, but I felt the movie was twistedly brilliant.

[Jack_Sparrow789]

Just to clarify to those who never saw the play or have heard the original cast recording, the film was almost word for word identical to the play. Several songs were cut, as they didn't fit the tone of the film, as well as a few lyrical omissions, don so as to keep the transition from stage to film smooth. Some of the lyrics and songs were written only to ever work on stage, and would not have translated well on screen. But other than the cuts made, the film was practically word for word a direct adaptation. That, and they added a few things to keep things moving smoothly. This is easily the best adaptation of a stage musical ever put on film, and it was helped by the fact that it was an adaptation of the greatest musical ever put on stage by the greatest living composer in musical theatre. :woot: Hope I helped. If anyone wants to know the specific cuts/changes, just PM me.

[JP]

Just to clarify to those who never saw the play or have heard the original cast recording, the film was almost word for word identical to the play. Several songs were cut, as they didn't fit the tone of the film, as well as a few lyrical omissions, don so as to keep the transition from stage to film smooth. Some of the lyrics and songs were written only to ever work on stage, and would not have translated well on screen. But other than the cuts made, the film was practically word for word a direct adaptation. That, and they added a few things to keep things moving smoothly. This is easily the best adaptation of a stage musical ever put on film, and it was helped by the fact that it was an adaptation of the greatest musical ever put on stage by the greatest living composer in musical theatre. :woot: Hope I helped. If anyone wants to know the specific cuts/changes, just PM me.

It really was. I don't understand what everyone was talking about saying it is so different from the play. It's really not. :huh:

[Majik1387]

Agreed.:up:

Best musical adaptation I've seen.:grin:

I'm also happy they didn't make the token original song so they have a shot at an Oscar for it.:cmad:

[JP]

This movie confirmed my desire to have Burton do another adaptation of Little Shop Of Horrors. This time with more blood and an R rating. :o

[WorthyStevens]

I'm so seeing this next week. Thank god for a month-long winter break from school.

[TNC9852002]

Was anyone else disturbed by Pirelli's and Turpin's crotch shadows?
Ugh...Quite disturbing!

-TNC

[Majik1387]

And no crotch shading from Sweeney or Antony? Boo.:o:down

[Untilteld]

Just saw it, and wow. Amazing, my favourite musical to date. I didn't see the stage play or read the script along with some, but it was fantastic. Does anyone know where I can find the Johanna song for download? It was fantastic. I loved how all the songs blended together, but the ending was sad, a tearjerker at most.

Just curious

Anthony, and Johanna, kind of a cliffhanger there, aswell with Toby.

[JP]

Not so much in the play...^

[Drizzle]

This movie confirmed my desire to have Burton do another adaptation of Little Shop Of Horrors. This time with more blood and an R rating. :o
Eh, I don't think "Little Shop of Horrors" is dark enough for Burton. You know who would do a good job with that? Edgar Wright ("Shaun of the Dead", "Hot Fuzz")

And no crotch shading from Antony? Boo.:o:down
I'm pretty sure there was no crotch shading (is that what you call it? I thought it was called a bulge) because Anthony was played by a chick with a guy's voice.

Just curious

Anthony, and Johanna, kind of a cliffhanger there, aswell with Toby.
It's easy to tell what happened to Anthony and Johanna. They got a carraige and got the hell out of there. As for Toby, he probably just went back to work in a factory.

[Majik1387]

Just saw it, and wow. Amazing, my favourite musical to date. I didn't see the stage play or read the script along with some, but it was fantastic. Does anyone know where I can find the Johanna song for download? It was fantastic. I loved how all the songs blended together, but the ending was sad, a tearjerker at most.

Just curious

Anthony, and Johanna, kind of a cliffhanger there, aswell with Toby.

With the cliffhangers, that's how it is in the show. They're the survivors, but I'm pretty sure it's clear Antony and Johanna "live happily ever after."
As for the songs, I bought my bff the CD soundtrack(Not the special edition) at Best Buy for bout $15

[JP]

In the show Anthony and Johanna have their happy ending. Toby goes insane and is found by the police with Sweeney, Lovitt, Beatle, and the Judges bodies.

[Untilteld]

In the show Anthony and Johanna have their happy ending. Toby goes insane and is found by the police with Sweeney, Lovitt, Beatle, and the Judges bodies.

I see.

And I found the Johanna song and all the others on youtube, I ripped the audio and got them all on my computer, so :up:

[bullets]

so i have heard that burton may be working on an alice in wonderland interpretation ..that could be something to look forward to.

[Boom]

This movie was ****ing fantastic. It was like a roundhouse kick to the face. Depp was ****ing disturbing during the last act.

Two thumbs up :up::up:.

[Spider-Fan]

Just saw it, and wow. Amazing, my favourite musical to date. I didn't see the stage play or read the script along with some, but it was fantastic. Does anyone know where I can find the Johanna song for download? It was fantastic. I loved how all the songs blended together, but the ending was sad, a tearjerker at most.

Just curious

Anthony, and Johanna, kind of a cliffhanger there, aswell with Toby.

Agreed. The ending was especially brilliant, and the film's message was very powerful.

I do hope this movie finally gets Burton some Oscars respect (which I feel he was snubbed from a couple other times).

[Apollo]

I loved it, i want to see it again!

only thing i was mad about was that they didn't have The Ballard of Sweeney Todd choirs.. it would have been perfect at the end, but oh well.

[luke1234]

just saw the movie, wow incredible took me by suprise, all the actors did a great job singing especially depp, what a spectacular musical

[Bond]

I still have yet to see it :(

[Majik1387]

so i have heard that burton may be working on an alice in wonderland interpretation ..that could be something to look forward to.

Yep, and it's for Disney.

[luke1234]

Burton has talent man, the way he uses color in his movies, and the way he directs his actors is superb

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, the ending didn't need to explain any more. No real cliffhanger there.

-TNC

[DACrowe]

I wouldn't neccessarily say it is my favorite film musical to date, but certainly in the top 10 and the best musical in the last 5 years (which there are quite a few of, recently, musical renissance?).

I thought Depp was superb. I mean his voice is untrained, but unlike say Gerard Butler as the Phantom, this was a bonus. He was completely immersive and mezmorizing. Quite honestly, he nailed the character by giving him a rock and roll sound. Bonham Carter was very good as well, albeit her voice was lacking compared to say, Angela Lansbury on the original cast or the woman in the revival I saw in 2005, but she acted the part well enough and was ghostily beautiful and memorable as the macbre and ambiguious Mrs. Lovitz. The rest of the cast was superb, with Rickman, Cohen and the actor playing Toby nailing it. Johanna was actually likeable for a change, but Anthony was as annoying as ever, but at least he was well acted and still has the best song in the musical.

The musical itself is a masterpiece. The complexity of the story, the music being able to tell the story and its manipulation of the audience is all a tribute to Sondheim. While I still think the elimination of The Ballad of Sweeney Todd (just once, would be nice?) and the judge singing creepily Johanna, it was still a masterful adaptation and certainly the best film adaptation of a stage musical in probably the last 30 years (Chicago would be an arguable comparison). The movie flows perfectly and is engrossing and the end just leaves the audience to wallow in their own misery.

Definetly one of Burton's best and a triumph for everyone involved. 9/10.

P.S. I love people calling it Little Shop of Horrors redone, when the musical predates that film and show and the story is MUCH older.

[Majik1387]

Her character was Mrs. Lovett, not Mrs. Lovitz.:cmad::o


:oldrazz:

[Secret_Riddle]

Great movie, my second fave from Burton.

[Untilteld]

Helena's so sexy :D

[Agentsands77]

only thing i was mad about was that they didn't have The Ballard of Sweeney Todd choirs.. it would have been perfect at the end, but oh well.
I wouldn't have changed the ending for anything in the world... I love the ballad as much as anyone, but that final shot was the best possible way to end it.

[DACrowe]

Her character was Mrs. Lovett, not Mrs. Lovitz.:cmad::o


:oldrazz:

Sorry it was late and I wasn't....clear headed. I also mispelled Tobias too.

Still I agree with my above statements.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I've never seen the original musical, so I was a bit shocked how DARK the movie started to become....Yikes. It's diffinitly the most dark musical movie I've ever seen. I'd even say distrubing at times. It could be Burton's darkest movie.

[DACrowe]

I'd say it is his darkest, but one of his most satisfying.

[Lord Blackbolt]

I have to say...every time Depp and Burton come together they strike gold.

[Mr. Socko]

This tops the list as best bloody film(but I hate 95% of them), it worked, dare I say it, whimsically :o

Most definitely Burton's darkest tale to date.

[Argyle of Sock]

Best movie I've seen in quite a while.

Best Burton movie since... erm... Ed Wood maybe...

:up: :up:

[Charlie No-One]

Anyone who has seen the stage revival, how is it? Do they have the barber chair or is like a concert type setting?

[Majik1387]

I didn't see the revival but I saw the show last year, and they had a chair.

[L0ngsh0t]

Question has anyone who has seen the flick seen the musical?

I am pretty much turned off to anything Burton touches, and I think he is brutal when he isn't working with his own material, like when he does adaptations (Batman/Planet of the Apes) but I do think he gets a lot better when he does his own stuff. I am just a little worried the flick will taint my musical experience

[JP]

It's pretty much the same. Word for word in some cases.

[DACrowe]

I wouldn't say, "It's pretty much the same." But I say it is very faithful to the spirit of the musical and the story and has many of the songs and everything (except fantasies, flashbacks and images visualized that cannot be on stage) you see is in the musical.

But there are some major changes, but I think while not nearly as faithful in adapting all the songs as say Phantom of the Opera or Dreamgirls or The Producers, it is infinitely more satisfying and one of Burton's strongest. Probably his strongest his film since Ed Wood, I'd say.

A list of changes:
SPOILERS



-The Ballad of Sweeney Todd and all the ghostily choruses are removed from the story and the only time you hear the music is in the opening credits as background music.
-The judge does not sing Johanna in a creepifying manner.
-The morning song between the judge and Bailey is cut in half.
-BIG SPOILER: The beggar woman/the barber's wife, Lucy, is not a prostitute and her song is cut in half and she does not try to solicit sex with the sailor.
-Johanna and Anthony do not have the love song "Kiss Me," or it's reprise. In fact, outside of the wonderful song, "Johanna," the love story is almost completely off screen in the movie.
-Sweeney doesn't get his chair ordered to him and is impatient because of Mrs. Lovett but makes it himself in this.
-A third of "Little Priest" is missing, including most of the best jokes like "The royal marine? What about his private parts? That's extra."
-"God, That's Good" is cut in half, without the actual title of the song being said.
-The crazies that Anthony frees from the nut house do not come and sing "The City is on Fire" in this version.
-Many other of the songs seem shorter than they did on stage so I assume there were cuts I was missing.
Interperative Changes:
SPOILERS
-Sweeney is far more insane in this version. When he gets to London he is already at the killing point, he just needs a little push. Depp's Sweeney is less sympathetic and much more tunnele visioned in performance and tone than the stage versions I know of, just focusing on revenge with the rest of the world dead to him, as opposed to the angry but bemused righteous man who goes nuts halfway through and even then has a sense of humor.
-Mrs. Lovett interestingly is not the batty fishmonger's wife with the cokney accent in this one that is hiding a much darker and evil scheming side with her eccentric exterior being superlative to the real monster underneath. Here,, she is much more sympathetic and far more in love with Sweeney and does everything to be closer to him and has a motherly streak that feels genuine as opposed to artificial. Her death is very grusome but sad, as opposed to much more satisfying like on stage. Maybe it is because Carter is still gorgeous underneath all that make up, though. ;)
-Tobias is not a teenager but a young boy. I think this worked marvelously well making him seem completely innocent and loveable.
-Far less humor.
-The ending ends after Sweeney dies, leaving the audience to wallow in the misery and horror of the climax in the finale. The chorus does not come out and sing the Ballad of Sweeney Todd and we do not see the lovers again, whose escape seems ill-fated in the movie.
-A LOT BLOODIER. A lot more bodies during the reprise of Johanne. The blood is on the walls in this one.
-Sweeney and Mrs. Lovett obviously do not have operetta voices in this.
-The order of some songs has been changed, AND SURPRISINGLY IT WORKS.

But I find all these changes work and while I would have kept more of the music, particularly in "The Little Priest" I overall think it was adapted brilliantly and works perfectly as a movie, which is what you want.

[JP]

Yes, true.

What I meant was all the plot points are their, nothing was changed like say Dreamgirls, Chicago or Hairspray.

[Agentsands77]

-A third of "Little Priest" is missing, including most of the best jokes like "The royal marine? What about his private parts? That's extra."
Ew. Your rendering of it leaves out the innuendo. The joke actually goes:

"Now, since marine doesn't appeal to you, how about Rear Admiral?"
"Too salty. I prefer General."
"With or without his Privates? ...with is extra."

-Sweeney is far more insane in this version. When he gets to London he is already at the killing point, he just needs a little push.
I always thought George Hearn played the character that way.

But I find all these changes work and while I would have kept more of the music, particularly in "The Little Priest" I overall think it was adapted brilliantly and works perfectly as a movie, which is what you want.
Yeah, it flows really well.

I would have kept a little bit more of the dialogue in "A Little Priest" (namely, the "General" exchange), but that's about it... it's a long song, and it still ran for a decent amount of time.

[The Guard]

I missed the Ballad of Sweeney Todd a bit, too. I could have seen it working, even just as voices during the credits sequence that the film had. And Turpin could have been a little creepier/more obsessive toward Joanna.

-Sweeney is far more insane in this version. When he gets to London he is already at the killing point, he just needs a little push. Depp's Sweeney is less sympathetic and much more tunnele visioned in performance and tone than the stage versions I know of, just focusing on revenge with the rest of the world dead to him, as opposed to the angry but bemused righteous man who goes nuts halfway through and even then has a sense of humor.

He may be willing to kill Turpin, but I don't think he's already insane as much as he is cynical, bitter about the world, and lost. He just doesn't have much left to look forward to other than finding out what happened to his wife, who he seems pretty sure has moved on. He's lost in the past, and he goes back to what he knew. And when he finds out the apparent fate of his wife, that drives him the rest of the way mad. He also becomes more insane as the film progresses, going from bein willing to kill just Turpin to not caring about killing anyone.

In other news, I just found out a local theatre in my hometown will be doing SWEENEY TODD locally in the Spring/Summer of 2008. Wish me luck.

[DACrowe]

I disagree. There is a sense of humor to both stage Sweeneys I've seen and the original cast recording. He is bitter and out for revenge but he is fairly righteous for the first third of the play and his attack on Pirelli seems the beginning of the insanity and he just snaps at Epiphany. In the movie he is just dead. There is no humor in him and the only thing lurking behind Sweeney's eyes is a boiling rage. You feel his snapping at Pierelli was inevitable because he was already full of such disgust and contempt for EVERYONE, he never gave the image of righteousness. He was much more tunnel-visioned and a good deal creepier. Like when he says "Send the boy up. SEND HIM UP!" there is such venom and evil lurking there that he has already reached that point before Epiphany he just needed the juice to turn it towards the city instead of Turpin. He was already insane, he just had it tunneled one way and it wasn't a point of recognition but an inevitable outcome when the character decides to kill everybody.

That is why I called it an interperative change.

[StrainedEyes]

I disagree. There is a sense of humor to both stage Sweeneys I've seen and the original cast recording. He is bitter and out for revenge but he is fairly righteous for the first third of the play and his attack on Pirelli seems the beginning of the insanity and he just snaps at Epiphany. In the movie he is just dead. There is no humor in him and the only thing lurking behind Sweeney's eyes is a boiling rage. You feel his snapping at Pierelli was inevitable because he was already full of such disgust and contempt for EVERYONE, he never gave the image of righteousness. He was much more tunnel-visioned and a good deal creepier. Like when he says "Send the boy up. SEND HIM UP!" there is such venom and evil lurking there that he has already reached that point before Epiphany he just needed the juice to turn it towards the city instead of Turpin. He was already insane, he just had it tunneled one way and it wasn't a point of recognition but an inevitable outcome when the character decides to kill everybody.

That is why I called it an interperative change.

I don't know, he had a little humor in him when he first met Mrs. Lovett And he had fun playing against Pierelli. He just seemed sad and lost, but he still had some humor to him.

[Darth Elektra]

Will Sweeney Todd be getting a wider release?

[Cyrusbales]

I've heard this film has been called "A Masterpiece" already, and is poised to become Burton's finest work. Does it look like this claim is true?

Also, Jonathon Ross stated that it was "Nothing short of a masterpiece"

[Hunter Rider]

^^^ That's usually a bad sign but thankfully a lot of smart posters here also said that.

[War Party]

Yeah, I think it's Burton's best film overall. I just had such a great time watching it and it was just bloody entertaining. Sorry for the pun.

[Majik1387]

Will Sweeney Todd be getting a wider release?
Wider as in how?
It opened in theaters Friday nationwide, not select theaters.

[JP]

Will Sweeney Todd be getting a wider release?

I think it opens in more theaters this weekend.

[War Party]

It opened in about 1200 theaters. That was definitely less than the other films released:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2007&wknd=51&p=.htm

[Agentsands77]

I've heard this film has been called "A Masterpiece" already, and is poised to become Burton's finest work. Does it look like this claim is true?

Also, Jonathon Ross stated that it was "Nothing short of a masterpiece"
Yes. SWEENEY TODD is Burton's best film, and is indeed "nothing short of a masterpiece." It's truly phenomenal.

[Majik1387]

It opened in about 1200 theaters. That was definitely less than the other films released:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2007&wknd=51&p=.htm

Weird, maybe this is why some of my friends thought it came out on Christmas.

[Agentsands77]

There is a sense of humor to both stage Sweeneys I've seen and the original cast recording.
Yes. Depp's Sweeney is noticeably more melancholy and less joyful than those Sweeneys.

He is bitter and out for revenge but he is fairly righteous for the first third of the play and his attack on Pirelli seems the beginning of the insanity and he just snaps at Epiphany.
I disagree. I think his insanity is often demonstrated in his very early in the musical. "There's a hole in the world..." like he repeats a few times, he gets furiously enraged at the beggar woman, almost hits Mrs. Lovett after being told what happened to his daughter and Lucy, and if his "My Friends" doesn't demonstrate a sense of brewing insanity, I don't know what does.

This, at least, can be demonstrated with the three "hailed" Sweeneys. George Hearn, who shouts like a madman throughout (his "At last my arm is complete again" is pure madness, nothing more, nothing less) is clearly insane from the beginning. Len Cariou on the OBC recording is a bit more reserved, but I think the madness still shows through (and live, he was definitely mad from the beginning). Michael Cerveris, from the revival, definitely strikes me as being very bloodthirsty and insane from the moment he walks into London.

In the movie he is just dead. There is no humor in him and the only thing lurking behind Sweeney's eyes is a boiling rage.
Granted. What humor he has is very dark indeed, and unlike other Sweeneys, he never even laughs during "Epiphany." But I'd argue that's the only major distinction.

You feel his snapping at Pierelli was inevitable because he was already full of such disgust and contempt for EVERYONE, he never gave the image of righteousness.
That's the way it is for every stage Sweeney. Todd has nothing but disgust for everyone from the first moment he appears in the stage show. Hence his very long "There's a hole in the world..." monologue.

[Mr. Socko]

Yes. SWEENEY TODD is Burton's best film, and is indeed "nothing short of a masterpiece." It's truly phenomenal.


I agree.

Though I miss the Ballad, they could have played it during the credits at least:csad:

[StrainedEyes]

I just wanted to post this because it is sad/hilarious.

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[DACrowe]

I agree there was always madness growing in the stage Sweeneys, but there was just something more sinister in Depp's portrayal. Maybe it is the prospect of it being so close to him and he plays it much more reserved, but there is a boiling rage in him from the beginning and he is ready to slit a boy's throat. I mean even during "A Little Prince" he was only happy to have a way dispose people and I do not think there was any joy in the puns he and Mrs. Lovett made. I siply think Depp's Sweeney is darker and more enclosed as Carter's Lovett is slightly more sympathetic and motherly than the usually batty schemer on stage.

Just my views, though.

[Agentsands77]

I siply think Depp's Sweeney is darker and more enclosed as Carter's Lovett is slightly more sympathetic and motherly than the usually batty schemer on stage.
I entirely agree.

[Dodger]

This movie started getting real good once he was killing people. :up: I loved everything with Depp and Carter.