Teen Titans/Titans Discussion Thread

[hippie_hunter]

3. What is so wrong with "seasons"??:(
It's gay :dry:

4. Robin is just all that. Let me start out with Joey. 1) There is something about his eyes. They're weird looking, but that's the first thing you notice, and there not bad to look at. (Unless, of course, he's trying to enter your body... wait, That can mean a few things, right there... I can't help that I'm a perv.:(sorry) 2) I like now Joey. I mean, did you miss the end of issue 41 when he was half naked?? They didn't show the goods, but they showed enough. But, the real reason I like Joey is almost the same for kid Devil, but I'll get to that after I tell you why I think eddie is hot stuff.

Kid devil - Do you see that picture that you posted?? I mean, look at those abs, and that V line. And he's red. I like most characters of color. And The hair (It's already a known fact that I love anyone with red or White hair. Male or female)
As I said, I can understand what you see in Robin. But Jericho. The dude once had gigantic mutton chops and wore purple boots. Looking at that picture BrianWilly posted, he also leans towards incest with his sister apparently looking at his wang.

Kid Devil, the dude is a god damned demon. I bet you'd burn yourself if you tried to...you know. And he's red. And ewww on multicolored people (I really don't get all the She-Hulk oggling, she's green for Christ sakes!)

Now, the real reasons I like Joey and Kid Devil is the way they interact with the Titans. Eddies is just adorable, going about "Hot Damn!" and just seemingly wanting to be accepted. I can see a little of myself in eddie, I feel for him. And Joey, I can say that my sister is my second best friend, so Brother and sister relationships are very important to me. Issue 43 set in stone why I will always be a fan of Joey. I'm not always all, "Look at me! All I have is Gay this, I hate me that!" I care more about, and always feel the need for, friends and Family, and when I can't get that around my way, The Hype is there for me.
I like Kid Devil too but Jericho should have stayed dead. That or he should help reform the adult Titans team.

[Kevin]

Yeah, It was weird she got a full look at him, but doesn't matter. Half naked man.

And maybe he should've stayed dead, but he's here now. There's nothing we can do about that but enjoy what the writers give us. if what they give us is good. For all we know, He may either A) Leave the team, or B) Die, now that there's a new writer.

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, It was weird she got a full look at him, but doesn't matter. Half naked man.
To make it even worse, it looked like she was in complete awe of his wang. The wang of her brother :csad:

[Kevin]

To make it even worse, it looked like she was in complete awe of his wang. The wang of her brother :csad:
Omg...:eek: You're sick, dude.:)

[Mogwai]

C'mon, there was smoke/steam covering it.

[trustyside-kick]

She wasn't technically checking out her brother. The panel showing her shocked simply is that: her being shocked that he is alive and in front of her. Him being naked, or him being fully clothed doesn't matter. She would have still reacted the same way. :dry:

[Fledermaus]

I take it you've seen your brother naked then?

[Mogwai]

Lets just say that her initial shock was seeing her brother alive and her secondary shock was when her eyes moved a little 'south.'

[BrianWilly]

She couldn't see anything what with that conveniently-placed shadow and all.

[batnkevlar]

Jericho must not have a very large dick then... mine needs a double-page splash panel...

[Hellstormer]

Jericho must not have a very large dick then... mine needs a double-page splash panel...
Wow mine needs the same thing when I'm a half mile away.

[batnkevlar]

Wow mine needs the same thing when I'm a half mile away.

Uh dude, sorry, but you just killed it...

One time I posed for Playgirl, and the photgraphers needed to duct tape two cameras side by side to get all of me in the picture...

so anyway, yeah, Teen Titans...

[Blaktin America]

you see mine when u look for directions on Googlemaps any where in the Western Hemisphere

[Fledermaus]

Did you know that it's a myth that you can see the Great Wall of China from space? Yeah, it's actually my dick.

[Kevin]

:dry: x 5

[hippie_hunter]

My penis is two inches.....from the ground.

[Kevin]

+ 1x :dry:

[Fledermaus]

My penis is two inches.....from the ground.

When you're on your knees?

[hippie_hunter]

When you're on your knees?

When I'm standing up. And I happen to be 6'7"

Yes it's massive :o

Giganitic :o

Enormous :o

Seriously it's bigger than an elephant's trunk :word:

[Fledermaus]

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/255000/255397oTws_w.jpg

That elephants' trunk?

[cerealkiller182]

Kind of feel bad for Duela. I feel that when this arc ends the Titans will be like "Hit the road, you crazy b****!"

[sethcohen]

When I'm standing up. And I happen to be 6'7"

Yes it's massive :o

Giganitic :o

Enormous :o

Seriously it's bigger than an elephant's trunk :word:

you must be quoting hasselhoff

[Mogwai]

Kind of feel bad for Duela. I feel that when this arc ends the Titans will be like "Hit the road, you crazy b****!"

most likely.

[batnkevlar]

Dude, so in the end, with everyone showing up, I saw the flash and I was like "hellz yeah, wally's back", but then i realized it was bart...

[cerealkiller182]

Anyone else think Ravager and Jericho should change their uniforms? If they hate there father so much why base there looks on him.

[WompuM]

because they're cheap.

what exactly is their plan with match? where are they goign to keep a super-clone.....-clone? should make for a fun issue

[Kevin]

Anyone else think Ravager and Jericho should change their uniforms? If they hate there father so much why base there looks on him.
I like what they have now, but If they can do better... It's like Tim. I loved his Red and green, but I love the Red and black way more.

[cerealkiller182]

I like what they have now, but If they can do better... It's like Tim. I loved his Red and green, but I love the Red and black way more.

I agree. I'm not knocking the suits, they just don't seem to make sense with their attitudes to there father.

Also, I'm mad that Duela just ran off again soon to reappear for a big group stand-off shot I'm sure. I'd like to see someone do something with her instead of making her some wierdo who keeps popping in when the Titans call in everyone.

[Mogwai]

man, i would've really liked daniel to draw this issue...but the new artist is growing on me (even though his work is lackluster).

[WompuM]

So why was the front of Match's chest glared so much on the cover? I guess just a red herring?

[Kebab gud]

This issue.. infact the entire OYL story and all after it has made me hate Cassie..

i just want to yet SHUT THE **** UP! every time she repeats herself
YES bart is older now.. like you said in Infinite Crisis A YEAR AGO!
and YES! Match is alot like conner.. its almost like match is his.... clone?.. dumbass




wow i really must get out more..

[Mogwai]

the dialogue is really bad now.. they all were talking like robots in this last issue.

[Knives122]

I got into Titans during the Graduation day arc, and this was by far the worst issue of Teen Titans I have ever read.

Everything was so rushed and or sloppy.

[LadyVader]

I have to agree. Why must they say the same things over and over again? Sheesh. That being said and done I appreciate the "teen titans are a family sentiment" but how exactly are they gonna have a family wheere they have a Robin and a joker's daughter. They don't exactly go well together. :)

[BrianWilly]

Teen Titans #46
Huh. What's that sound? Oh right, it's the mewling, pathetic gasps of a whimper.

Y'know, as opposed to a bang?

Johns' last issue on this series, and my Buffy I don't think I've hated any other issue quite as much as I've hated this one. I honestly remember when this book was one of my top three favorites. I could accuse him of being out of steam, except that he's still cranking out bloody brilliant work in JSA, so frankly he has no excuse here. He's simply let this book go. As I've said, I never cared once about any of the Titans East -- who were supposed to be the stars of this arc -- and by the end of this arc I've yet to care. In fact, by now they are so irritating I'd rather buy Mark Millar books than ever read about them again.

Deathstroke -- who's already supreme mugwomp of overrated, overpowered, overused supervillains even without this issue -- comes off astonishingly overrated, overpowered, and overused here. Johns, who I'd once considered a master at voicing strong, diabolical masterminds, makes Slade utterly unlikeable in every single way. He talks too much. What he says (which there is entirely too much of) makes no sense. He's pompous to the point of disbelief, and yet we're supposed to take him completely seriously. Everything that you could do wrong in the characterization of a villain manages to go wrong here. Okay, sure, I thought his little twist justification at the end was a kinda cool twist ending...too bad it doesn't save the prior twenty-one pages.

And he's overpowered here frankly to the point of abject ridiculousness. He bats Donna Troy around like a toy -- y'know, Donna Troy, blood of gods in her veins, who once plowed through the entirety of the Titans and Outsiders and was powerful enough to hold Wonder Woman's own title for some time? -- when she shouldn't even feel any of his blows, he makes a complete idiot out of Cassandra Cain who is essentially the most powerful martial artist in the DCU, and then he -- wait for it -- takes on the ENTIRE TITANS TEAM including Flash, Wonder Girl, and a White Martian without receiving so much as a single scratch. Oh yeah, and then he manages to get away from the giant, empty field that they were fighting on with more than a dozen people watching out for him. The SINGLE LAMEST WAY for a villain to round off his appearance -- somehow magically vanishing without a trace -- and Deathstroke managed to do it here on an empty field. I couldn't even believe what I was reading. Seriously, compared to this retardity, his Identity Crisis fight against the JLA was the pinnacle of logic.

Speaking of those other adult Titans that popped up...I didn't even notice this until I finished this issue, but my goodness; they make such a dramatic appearance in the last issue and, I kid you not, did absolutely jack squat in this issue. They could have been taken out entirely -- not just from the fight, but also from the plot -- and it's debatable whether it would have made a difference at all. No, scratch that; there's no debate. It simply wouldn't have made any difference.

Wonder Girl is still inhaling crack cocaine by the bushels. Uh, Cassie dear? You've seen Bart as an twenty-year old before. In fact, you were the very first person to recognize him. And Johns wrote that scene. Are you dense? Are you retarded or something? And then she apologizes to Match for reflecting his heat vision back at him, thinking that maybe there's a bit of Conner in there and oh Christ. Just...stop it.

Speaking of Bart...his rigid, cranky, abrasive personality here -- particularly to Robin -- is nothing at all like his wide-eyed, humble, aw-shucks approach to life in his own title.

Oh, and the art sucked hard.

Well, there was a cute moment where Miss Martian blasts water at Sun Girl from her mouth...I liked Miss Martian. I wish Johns had put more use to her. Too bad it'll never happen, now.

Next month...Beechen gives us a Titans funeral! Fcking yay:dry:. Way to start off your run. Good luck, 'cause I won't be buying it.

(3 out of 10)
(5.4 out of 10 for the whole arc)

[Kevin]

Damn, Guys... I almost don't want to read it now.

[Darthphere]

Teen Titans has been crap since OYL, all you guys who said it was just as good as before were probably blinded by the pretty art of Tony Daniel, now that its gone, you guys saw the light. At least with Beechen, we know Tim won't be so ****ing emo, but this title is on the chopping block.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Teen Titans have been crap since the death of Conner and Bart leaving.

[Darthphere]

Shut the **** up.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Why don't you suck my **** B**** and leave me the **** alone I am going to post what I think be it you like it or not.

[Darthphere]

You have to have one for me to suck first.

[Ultimate_Superman]

You have to have one for me to suck first.Ouch that one really hurt:rolleyes:

[Darthphere]

Indeed it did, seeing as you responded to such a low level insult. Viagra?

[yenaled]

I dropped this book as soon as Daniels left and I'm so glad what a crap comic it has become.

[TheCorpulent1]

I flipped through this issue in the shop and considered buying it just to see what Johns would do with the newly back-to-normal Batgirl. But then I saw her dialog and Nightwing going on about how she's trying to kill Deathstroke and I realized she wasn't back to normal at all.

I did flip through to the end, though, and I was just confused. Everybody except the Titans just... disappears? What the hell? It's comedic in its absurdity, Nightwing (or Robin or who-the-****-ever) looking around all, "Batgirl? Inertia? Deathstroke?" That was an interesting way to go out. I think that more than anything else just cinched it for me that Johns really didn't give a **** about this comic anymore. "How will I end this arc and wrap up my 4-year run...? Ah, **** it, I gotta get back to important stuff like crawling ever deeper into Richard Donner's ass." :dry:

[Colossal Spoons]

I thought the end of what could have been a frackin awesome arc was just "meh". Damn, I miss this book post-IC.

Last week, Marvel gives us: Black Panther restraining the Silver Surfer with some judo arm-hold.

This week, DC gives us: Deathstroke facing off against more people than he should have lived to tell about.

Which is more absurd?

[Colossal Spoons]

Teen Titans #46
Huh. What's that sound? Oh right, it's the mewling, pathetic gasps of a whimper.

Y'know, as opposed to a bang?

Johns' last issue on this series, and my Buffy I don't think I've hated any other issue quite as much as I've hated this one. I honestly remember when this book was one of my top three favorites. I could accuse him of being out of steam, except that he's still cranking out bloody brilliant work in JSA, so frankly he has no excuse here. He's simply let this book go. As I've said, I never cared once about any of the Titans East -- who were supposed to be the stars of this arc -- and by the end of this arc I've yet to care. In fact, by now they are so irritating I'd rather buy Mark Millar books than ever read about them again.

Deathstroke -- who's already supreme mugwomp of overrated, overpowered, overused supervillains even without this issue -- comes off astonishingly overrated, overpowered, and overused here. Johns, who I'd once considered a master at voicing strong, diabolical masterminds, makes Slade utterly unlikeable in every single way. He talks too much. What he says (which there is entirely too much of) makes no sense. He's pompous to the point of disbelief, and yet we're supposed to take him completely seriously. Everything that you could do wrong in the characterization of a villain manages to go wrong here. Okay, sure, I thought his little twist justification at the end was a kinda cool twist ending...too bad it doesn't save the prior twenty-one pages.

And he's overpowered here frankly to the point of abject ridiculousness. He bats Donna Troy around like a toy -- y'know, Donna Troy, blood of gods in her veins, who once plowed through the entirety of the Titans and Outsiders and was powerful enough to hold Wonder Woman's own title for some time? -- when she shouldn't even feel any of his blows, he makes a complete idiot out of Cassandra Cain who is essentially the most powerful martial artist in the DCU, and then he -- wait for it -- takes on the ENTIRE TITANS TEAM including Flash, Wonder Girl, and a White Martian without receiving so much as a single scratch. Oh yeah, and then he manages to get away from the giant, empty field that they were fighting on with more than a dozen people watching out for him. The SINGLE LAMEST WAY for a villain to round off his appearance -- somehow magically vanishing without a trace -- and Deathstroke managed to do it here on an empty field. I couldn't even believe what I was reading. Seriously, compared to this retardity, his Identity Crisis fight against the JLA was the pinnacle of logic.

Speaking of those other adult Titans that popped up...I didn't even notice this until I finished this issue, but my goodness; they make such a dramatic appearance in the last issue and, I kid you not, did absolutely jack squat in this issue. They could have been taken out entirely -- not just from the fight, but also from the plot -- and it's debatable whether it would have made a difference at all. No, scratch that; there's no debate. It simply wouldn't have made any difference.

Wonder Girl is still inhaling crack cocaine by the bushels. Uh, Cassie dear? You've seen Bart as an twenty-year old before. In fact, you were the very first person to recognize him. And Johns wrote that scene. Are you dense? Are you retarded or something? And then she apologizes to Match for reflecting his heat vision back at him, thinking that maybe there's a bit of Conner in there and oh Christ. Just...stop it.

Speaking of Bart...his rigid, cranky, abrasive personality here -- particularly to Robin -- is nothing at all like his wide-eyed, humble, aw-shucks approach to life in his own title.

Oh, and the art sucked hard.

Well, there was a cute moment where Miss Martian blasts water at Sun Girl from her mouth...I liked Miss Martian. I wish Johns had put more use to her. Too bad it'll never happen, now.

Next month...Beechen gives us a Titans funeral! Fcking yay:dry:. Way to start off your run. Good luck, 'cause I won't be buying it.

(3 out of 10)
(5.4 out of 10 for the whole arc)

Goddamn I agree with every last word. Except the part about not buying Beechen's first issue :O

[Kevin]

Goddamn I agree with every last word. Except the part about not buying Beechen's first issue :O
THat's right. Beechen didn't do that much to the titans. Look on the bright side, with beechen, we may not have that stupid Cassie/Tim relationship that's more or less in the air.

[Darthphere]

I flipped through this issue in the shop and considered buying it just to see what Johns would do with the newly back-to-normal Batgirl. But then I saw her dialog and Nightwing going on about how she's trying to kill Deathstroke and I realized she wasn't back to normal at all.

I did flip through to the end, though, and I was just confused. Everybody except the Titans just... disappears? What the hell? It's comedic in its absurdity, Nightwing (or Robin or who-the-****-ever) looking around all, "Batgirl? Inertia? Deathstroke?" That was an interesting way to go out. I think that more than anything else just cinched it for me that Johns really didn't give a **** about this comic anymore. "How will I end this arc and wrap up my 4-year run...? Ah, **** it, I gotta get back to important stuff like crawling ever deeper into Richard Donner's ass." :dry:

Sounds like fun.:dry:

[Darthphere]

I thought the end of what could have been a frackin awesome arc was just "meh". Damn, I miss this book post-IC.

This week, Marvel gives us: Black Panther restraining the Silver Surfer with some judo arm-hold.

This week, DC gives us: Deathstroke facing off against more people than he should have lived to tell about.

Which is more absurd?

I think its absurd that Fantastic Four didn't come out this week, but last week.:o

[Colossal Spoons]

I was just about to edit that :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

Black Panther's arm-hold on the Surfer was more absurd to me. Deathstroke was mostly just dodging and keeping away from the Titans, so it's not totally retarded that he managed to find an opening and escape. Running's easier than fighting, after all. But the Panther just put the Surfer in a hold and the Surfer was completely out of commission until Stardust arrived. What the hell? I had to think a lot more to come up with some semi-plausible explanation for the hold than I did to come up with something for the Deathstroke vs. the world scenario, and that's my rule of thumb for plot-induced stupidity.

[Colossal Spoons]

I really don't get Deathstroke at all though. How is he able to dodge such powerful people for so long? He kicked Donna in th chest and she was all "Ow!" You think if the heroes were willing to kill, that Slade could be taken down quickly and with ease?

[Knives122]

Well in Slade's defense he is a meta-human......which doesn't really amount to anything when you go up against someone like Donna...

[Colossal Spoons]

Exactly, and I didn't what to make of the panel where Ravager stabbd him in the back of his head. :huh:

[Knives122]

Well either you're talking about this:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1874/07cy2.jpg

or this:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2679/15sg7.jpg

In which case both gave off the wrong impression which resulted in it being even dumber..

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, the artist on the issue was pretty unimpressive. Muddled layouts, loads of anatomical errors, and just generally not engaging.

[Kebab gud]

Well in Slade's defense he is a meta-human......which doesn't really amount to anything when you go up against someone like Donna...
he's not meta.. he is pumped up on evil-juice!
(one of the resons i say he is DC's version of Captain America.. only british and evil :P)

[WompuM]

Hmm... I never thought of Slade w/ a British accent. Does Rose have one too ya' think?

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, Knives. I meant the first one. Not sure what happened there.

[Darthphere]

Huh?

[sethcohen]

hes not british, kebab just makes things up sometimes... he lives in a world of make-believe, much like me, except his has more pretty colors most days...

[Kebab gud]

hes not british, kebab just makes things up sometimes... he lives in a world of make-believe, much like me, except his has more pretty colors most days...

im almost positive that he is.. but then again... i cant give you any issues where its stated..

[Colossal Spoons]

Huh?

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1874/07cy2.jpg

The last 2 panels. Did Rose stab him in the head? If so, why isn't he dead?

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought she slashed at him but it just barely missed. Maybe it even caught some of the fabric of his costume, but it still was just shy of piercing flesh.

[Knives122]

he's not meta.. he is pumped up on evil-juice!
(one of the resons i say he is DC's version of Captain America.. only british and evil :P)

That's not what Nightwing issue 18 page 17 says:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8694/b17xx5.jpg

[BrianWilly]

Keerist. Every time I look at those pages I get more pissed. Donna goes flying from a kick to the stomach. And Batgirl...gets a bonk to the head? SHE BEAT LADY SHIVA OMG DIE BEECHEN.

[Kebab gud]

Imbued with enhanced physical prowess by secret army experiments attempting to create metahuman soldiers for the U.S. military, Deathstroke the Terminator became a mercenary soon after the experiment.

Thats the way i remember it.. (thou i was shure it was england not US :/)

[GoldenAgeHero]

i knew beechen would suck,oy a title that im now going to drop.

[Anubis]

Dude, that's f**king Deathstroke. Everybody jobs to him.

[BrianWilly]

Ollie kicked his ass with prep time:cmad:.

[hippie_hunter]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/949/cassiebrownyu8.jpg

[Kevin]

I thought Johns wrote this issue? Now I really have to get and read this with the crappy art.:(

[trustyside-kick]

So wait...I always wondered...in that scene did Nightwing just pull on her cape and she fell? I understand him then walking over and knocking her out so she doesn't try to kill Slade.

[hippie_hunter]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/549/teentitans46reaction4gu2.png

[Varient]

Black Panther's arm-hold on the Surfer was more absurd to me. Deathstroke was mostly just dodging and keeping away from the Titans, so it's not totally retarded that he managed to find an opening and escape. Running's easier than fighting, after all. But the Panther just put the Surfer in a hold and the Surfer was completely out of commission until Stardust arrived. What the hell? I had to think a lot more to come up with some semi-plausible explanation for the hold than I did to come up with something for the Deathstroke vs. the world scenario, and that's my rule of thumb for plot-induced stupidity.

Meh.

The Surfer Holding Still for the Panther is the EXACT same attitude He has with the Hulk on those many occasions when he takes abuse to find out what the other guy is upset about.

No surprizes there.

Deathstroke skipping around A speedster and two Demi-gods? while besting the best Martial Artist in the DCU,. while holding off two that Batman trained?


Sumbodies on drugs.


Deathstroke shouldn't have had a chance,.. Sorry,.. But Captain America DC style is not going to beat a speedster who can effectly stop time for himself,.. walk up and smack the crap out of deathstroke for shooting him in the knee.

He's not going to smack around the "analog clone" of WonderWoman, or the SuperStrength almost Bulletproof Wondergurl.

TSK.

I didn't comment on this and about seven other poorly written comics on purpose,...

Trying to be nice.

V.

[Kevin]

Dick punch

[Kitsune]

Dick punch

I'm not sure what that is, but it sounds painful.
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On a side note, I'm glad that Deathstoke wasn't just planning to attack the Titans with his own team, but the plan still seems just a little out of character for him.

[Mogwai]

The more I look at the new artist's work on this book, the more I want to cry. His style does not fit this book.. Please DC! Give the Titans a more fitting artist!

[hippie_hunter]

A flagship title such as Teen Titans should not be given to such a Z-list team such as Beechen and Barronuevo or how ever you spell it.

[Darthphere]

Since when is Teen Titans a "flagship" title?

[Laplace_Zombie]

C-list Titans dying is getting old... Next month's surely got the death of yet another character we don't give a **** about.

[Mogwai]

I really think Teen Titans could be DC's 'crown jewel' if they gave it the respect it deserves. Think about how popular 'New Teen Titans' was in the 80's.

[WompuM]

I'm not sure what that is, but it sounds painful.
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And I have official squirted beer out of my nose.

[Mogwai]

Mike McKone on TEEN TITANS #50
With all the relentless Titans death, at least Titans fans now have something to look forward to: Mike McKone is returning to the Teen Titans for a story in issue #50!

The Pulse interviewed writers Writers Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning: "We're pretty busy with Nova and Conquest atm but have a Superman/Batman story in the works but that's a way off down the line and have a story in the DC Halloween Special featuring the return of a character very close to our hearts! Individually, Andy [Lanning] is inking Phil Jimenez on his upcoming Amazing Spider-Man issues and Mike McKone on a Teen Titans story for the #50 issue and an upcoming JLA story.

Fantastic news! I consider the three best Titans artists to be George Pérez, Phil Jimenez and Mike McKone. This should be sweet!

yes! i'm happy about teen titans again (for the time being).

[BrianWilly]

The book needs far more than McKone to save it right now.

[Harlekin]

And yet, for some reason, I still like it. I can recognize it's pretty mediocre work, but I can't help but like the characters, especially Kid Devil.

[BrianWilly]

The guy who ran around for the last two issues half-naked and did absolutely nothing of note?

It's certainly possible that the last arc wasn't truly indicative of what Beechen's work will be like, but then again how many warning signs do we really need?

[Harlekin]

Yeah, that guy. :p

Okay, so he didn't get much play in this arc. He still rocks.

[Kebab gud]

how many titans should there be.. they are 9 now with Joker's Daughter, but shes dead.. (unless there was two of her, and the onde in countdown was someone else..)

man i wish TEEN TITANS #47 was out next week..

[trustyside-kick]

And yet, for some reason, I still like it. I can recognize it's pretty mediocre work, but I can't help but like the characters, especially Kid Devil.

Yea that's really why I started to want to get into TT at this time. Rose Wilson being on the team and then the arc involving Slade was a key part. I love the line-up for the team.

[Darthphere]

The guy who ran around for the last two issues half-naked and did absolutely nothing of note?

It's certainly possible that the last arc wasn't truly indicative of what Beechen's work will be like, but then again how many warning signs do we really need?

Like I've said before Beechen writes the best Robin out there right now. I'm not talking about the title, I'm talking about the character. His plots are pretty lame, but nowhere near as bad as you guys make them out to be, just because you guys can't get over the whole Cassandra Cain thing that took up like 2 issues of the Robin title, the rest doesn't count right?

[BrianWilly]

Never followed his Robin. Was annoyed about Cassandra Cain -- not as much as some here, no doubt -- but never really associated that incident with him, being that I never followed his Robin. The warning signs all come directly from this series, and I think they're pretty relevant considering that this series is the one that he helped pen in recent issues and the one that he's going to be taking over.

[GoldenAgeHero]

has'nt he already taken over, i belive he wrote this issue.

[BrianWilly]

Johns and Beechen are both credited. The implication is that this latest arc was Beechen's induction/transition of sorts. Johns started off the story, and Beechen slowly wrote more and more of it until by the latest issue, he's pretty much the primary voice.

I don't blame one over the other for this travesty really, but like I said...warning signs.

[Mogwai]

The book needs far more than McKone to save it right now.

you speak the truth.

[PWN3R]

Meh. I'm dropping this. Last issue was a mess. No way Slade could take all of them on like that.

[Mogwai]

I feel like the Titans East arc was waaay over-hyped and it ended up being pretty mediocre (the art in the latter issues ruined it for me). I would've been satisfied if Daniel had stayed on for the whole story. I just can't imagine continuing to like this title with Barrionuevo staying on art.

DC Please!

[sethcohen]

beechens gone:
COUNTDOWN TO ADVENTURE LAUNCHES IN AUGUST
Sometimes, even if you leave space, space calls you back.

Case in point, DC’s “space heroes” of the recently-concluded 52: Animal Man, Starfire and Adam Strange. They all made it back to their respective homes by the end of the series, but in August, they’re going back in Countdown to Adventure, an eight issue miniseries.

We spoke with DCU Executive Editor Dan Didio for the details of both the miniseries and some creative ripples it causes.

“Countdown to Adventure is similar to what we did with Mystery in Space. The front half of the book follows the space team from 52 – Animal Man, Starfire and Adam Strange on their latest adventure, which picks up on some threads left over from 52.

“And the backup will feature a new character named Forerunner which is a brand new character who will be introduced and play an integral role in the early part of Countdown. We’ll see a lot of her background and origin in this miniseries.”

Creatively speaking, the “space heroes” storyline will be written by Adam Beechen, with art by Joe Bennet; while Forerunner’s story will be handled by Justin Gray and Fabrizio Fiorentino.

As for what calls the heroes back into space, especially considering that one of them died the last time they did this? (he got better though)

“There were certain threads that were left with the team itself,” Didio said. “What happens is that we find out a little bit about Adam Strange’s adventures on Rann, and ultimately some of the troubles that he finds there will cause him to pull back his old friends, Starfire and Animal Man to help him with a returning menace in outer space.”

And would that returning menace share a name with a fabulous rock band whos hits spanned the ‘70s and ‘80s?

“Yes – the menace is from Boston,” Didio laughed. “But more seriously, there’s a good chance of that, yes.”

The miniseries marks Gray’s first outing on his own (that is, without co-writer Jimmy Palmiotti) at DC, although he’s written stories for both Batman Confidential and Superman Confidential that have yet to see print.

As for just who this Forerunner is?

“She first shows up in Countdown, and she gets involved with one of the major villains in the story,” Didio said. “The story in Countdown to Adventure follows her adventures with that character, while touching on her origin and her world, and how she came to be.”

Along with Gray, Beechen is also one of the writers on Countdown’s writing team under Paul Dini. Didio said that, in terms of Beechen, the immersion that has provided showed him that the writer was ready to tackle an expansive story set in the DCU’s “u”.

“Adam’s up to speed with so much that’s been going on, and has an affinity for that material and a great sensibility in regards to Adam Strange’s personality, and more importantly, he really handles character interaction well, and I think he’s going to bring a lot of fun to the table.”

Beechen’s move to the new miniseries does come with a cost – he had to give up Teen Titans, where he was recently named as the series’ new writer, stepping in for the departing Geoff Johns. Moving over to that series will be another member of the Countdown team, Sean McKeever.

McKeever will join Johns, Marv Wolfman, Mike McKone, George Perez, Todd Nauck and other creators for August’s Teen Titans #50 “jam issue,” and then head off on his own with September’s #51 with artist Randy Green.

“Sean’s is able to write in that great younger voice that the Teen Titans book really needs and a great sensibility for the characters, and again, like Adam, with his time working on Countdown, he was able to learn a lot about the interaction between them. When Teen Titans came free, Sean just seemed the most logical choice. Sean will be writing two of our team books now, with Titans and Birds of Prey, and he brings a great voice to both those books.”

[Darthphere]

That's good news all around actually. McKeever should've been the succesor on Teen Titans from the get go. And Countdown to Adventure sounds cool I guess, except for being probably the worst name for a comic book ever. I have a lot more faith in Beechen than a lot of you have but at least he can't go near Cassandra Cain this way eh?

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm looking forward to McKeever's run on TT. I do believe I'll pick that up and skip Countdown to Adventure. I like Adam Strange, Starfire, and Animal Man, but I frankly didn't care much about Lady Styx or anything else from their story in 52. If a better writer were on the project I'd try it, but Beechen just reinforces my lack of interest.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yay, corp hates beechen!

[TheCorpulent1]

Immensely. In this, GAH, we are allies. If you just improved your opinions on everything else, I might come to respect you. Maybe.

Or not. :oldrazz:

[Darthphere]

I'm looking forward to McKeever's run on TT. I do believe I'll pick that up and skip Countdown to Adventure. I like Adam Strange, Starfire, and Animal Man, but I frankly didn't care much about Lady Styx or anything else from their story in 52. If a better writer were on the project I'd try it, but Beechen just reinforces my lack of interest.

I actually think this is the perfect project for Beechen. He could really use his JLU background better in this arena than a character driven book like Teen Titans.

Also, why the hell is Blue Beetle going to be on Titans?:huh:

[TheCorpulent1]

Because he's a teenager?

[Darthphere]

But no. :csad:

[Harlekin]

McKeever doing Titans as well? Great news. The Space Trio getting their own mini? Pretty cool, but I'm probably gonna skip it.

[trustyside-kick]

I think it will be interesting with Blue Beetle replacing Cyborg. I do not read the Blue Beetle title, and while I have heard good things I do not really plan to. I need more curiosity and motivation to want to pick up another title and Blue Beetle just isn't it yet for me. At least I can experience this new character in the TT title.

[Darthphere]

I think it will be interesting with Blue Beetle replacing Cyborg. I do not read the Blue Beetle title, and while I have heard good things I do not really plan to. I need more curiosity and motivation to want to pick up another title and Blue Beetle just isn't it yet for me. At least I can experience this new character in the TT title.

Writen by someone completely different, in a completely different enviroment, with a different supporting cast. Yup, makes sense.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, as cool as it'll be to have Jaime on the Titans, a big part of the draw for his book is his supporting cast and their twisted, tangled relationships.
But no. :csad:
Apparently, yes. :)

[trustyside-kick]

Writen by someone completely different, in a completely different enviroment, with a different supporting cast. Yup, makes sense.

Still will recieve the character exposure, and not like the guy will make him completely different in TT. He would obviously have to know some things about him before adding him in. If not, then oh well but that still doesn't mean I cannot enjoy his involvement because I don't read his title.

And let's say he is written differently to a point where it's different than his title. Well, people (myself included) enjoyed Aquaman in Morrison's JLA story yet most or half of the time he wasn't written nearly as well or such in his own title. Either way? I enjoy the character. So same concept but backwards here if the TT writer messes up Blue Beetle somehow. So if Blue Beetle is as great as I've heard, I think there is nothing to worry about. You talk as if there is such a high risk of this writer ruining the character.

[BrianWilly]

This is great for the Titans, possibly not that great for the space trio, which is a shame since the space trio getting their own mini was a damn great idea.

Blue Beetle being with the Titans makes sense. He's a young hero, a young legacy hero at that, who could use the experience and the connections. He has his own family and friends outside of a team but then, so does Superman. Characters appear in multiple books all the time, I don't see why it's so strange for Jaime to. Particularly since he's already doing it, in Brave and the Bold.

[Varient]

This is great for the Titans, possibly not that great for the space trio, which is a shame since the space trio getting their own mini was a damn great idea.

Blue Beetle being with the Titans makes sense. He's a young hero, a young legacy hero at that, who could use the experience and the connections. He has his own family and friends outside of a team but then, so does Superman. Characters appear in multiple books all the time, I don't see why it's so strange for Jaime to. Particularly since he's already doing it, in Brave and the Bold.

Always outta the loop I am,.... When was it annouced that Blue Beetle was Joining the Titans????



On Topic:
I'm thinking it'll be a good thing to have a lantern class mech on the team.

Oh yeah:

Where is CYBORG going?

[Darthphere]

This is great for the Titans, possibly not that great for the space trio, which is a shame since the space trio getting their own mini was a damn great idea.

Blue Beetle being with the Titans makes sense. He's a young hero, a young legacy hero at that, who could use the experience and the connections. He has his own family and friends outside of a team but then, so does Superman. Characters appear in multiple books all the time, I don't see why it's so strange for Jaime to. Particularly since he's already doing it, in Brave and the Bold.

It's not strange, I just rather he not be on Teen Titans.:huh:

[Primal Slayer]

Im surprised noone posted the cover to #50 featuring the new line-up

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/jamesbondguy/DSCF0559_0001.jpg

[Mogwai]

I like that line-up on the cover of issue #50, looks like it's going to be a female-dominated team. Is that Nauck's art?

In other news, too bad Beechen's leaving the title instead of Barrionuevo..

[CConn]

No, McKeever's definitely a step up from Beechen. And Barrionuevo is leaving with Beechen, isn't he?

Anyway, I hope McKeever can keep BB awesome and made Supergirl not a total *****. :up:

[Mogwai]

I always thought Supergirl would make a good Titan, but two over-powered blondes on one team....

Maybe they'll announce the new artist tomorrow ;)

[Eros]

with supergirl and wondergirl, and not to mention miss martian, the new Titans roster can take on the entire Justice League.

[CConn]

I must say, while I've been missing the more classic TT line up, this new one does look pretty damn good. I'm a fan of nearly every member.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I'm likin' the new line-up. Maybe now, I'll care about the new Blue Beetle.

[CConn]

You should've been caring for a long while now.

[PWN3R]

Like the news. I'm most def going to pick it this back up when the new team starts.

I love Blue Beetle, but like some of you said, its his crazy relationships with his supporting cast I like. Hopefully having BB on the Titans will give his solo book more sales.

You should've been caring for a long while now.

:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

We shall see about that.

[PWN3R]

We shall see about that.

Blue Beetle is great for everyone. It has something for new readers and the lone crazed DC fan boy too.

DC should realize the potential this book has before its too late.

[yenaled]

I don't think BB should be in a group yet, he's still really green and could make do with being solo for longer.

[Primal Slayer]

The cover is by Ale Garza, and the new TT artist is going to be Randy Green.

[BrianWilly]

Didn't Kyle Rayner join the Titans after only about a year, too?

[yenaled]

It may have even been less than a year.

He was only in them for about 3 seconds though.

[Darthphere]

New interview with McKeever (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=112693)

This is sounding promising.

[hippie_hunter]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/titans/TT-Cv50.jpg

This line up is so freaking awesome! Now if they can only get Speedy back on the team.

[hippie_hunter]

And thank god that they're getting rid of the damn adults from the team!

[CConn]

Seriously, this is looking like this'll be the best time for the Titans since the first arc.

[Colossal Spoons]

1. Oh ****, it didn't even occur to me that the adults were gone. Wonder what they'll be off doing.

2. Robin has some amazing lats for a teenager lol.

[Darthphere]

**** balls, I'm going to keep buying Titans.

[hippie_hunter]

1. Oh ****, it didn't even occur to me that the adults were gone. Wonder what they'll be off doing.
It's highly beleived that Cyborg will be joining the JLA and if you read the Titans East storyline, it looks like that an adult Titans team will be reforming in New York City.

2. Robin has some amazing lats for a teenager lol.
Lats? :huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn, I wish Speedy were on this team :(

[Darthphere]

Beetle's inclusion seems like a death sentence on his ongoing.

[Colossal Spoons]

It's highly beleived that Cyborg will be joining the JLA and if you read the Titans East storyline, it looks like that an adult Titans team will be reforming in New York City.


Lats? :huh:

Yeah, they hinted at the NY Titans, hope it happens

Latissimus dorsi = muscle near your armpit :up:

[Mister J]

Damn. Between the McKeever interview and the lineup, I may have to add this to the pull.

[Colossal Spoons]

There's space in my box since dropping Outsiders :o

[GoldenAgeHero]

i love mckeever but damn blue beetle and supergirl?:(

[CConn]

God, GAH sucks.

[Colossal Spoons]

I love the fact that she's in this book. If I like the way the character is handle in TT, maybe I'll giver her book a shot :up:

[TheCorpulent1]

I ****ing loathe Supergirl and Ravager. Other than that, this sounds pretty good.

I hope Cyborg, Beast Boy, Roy, Garth, Donna Troy, Nightwing, and Raven form an adult Titans team. Maybe they could throw Joto/Hotspot, Argent, and Ray Palmer on there, too.

That team pic is by Ale Garza, I think (I can't really read the signature too well). I wonder how Randy Green's art is gonna look on his fill-in issue. I like his art more than Garza's.

[Colossal Spoons]

Why the Supergirl hate?

I wondered how old Joto was.

[CConn]

Why the Supergirl hate?Because she's characterized as an insufferable *****.

Mainly. :o

She hasn't been bad in Brave and the Bold. But then, Waid's characterization of her is totally different than her normal characterization.

[Colossal Spoons]

I own all the issues of her current ongiong, just need to get around to readin 'em.

[Hellstormer]

Wow that team looks a bit heavy on the female species. But w/e. As for the adults? Starfire probaly died (sorry guys) Vics probaly on the JL, Donna, Nightwing, and Gar might just go solo or something...

Anyone who thinks that Blue Beetles ongoing will suffer should look at Robin he joined YJ when his ongoing was only a few issues in so I don't think we should worry.

EDIT: I gotta admit this team's frikken amazing.

[Colossal Spoons]

Starfire dead? :gasp:

[CConn]

I own all the issues of her current ongiong, just need to get around to readin 'em.
It'd be better if you didn't. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn lol :(

[Kebab gud]

how could starfire die when shes headlining a new series?

[Varient]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/titans/TT-Cv50.jpg

This line up is so freaking awesome! Now if they can only get Speedy back on the team.

Three Wonderwoman-class Fems,... One lantern class mech and two batman class streetlevelers,..... and a demon????

Who won't they be able to beat?

[hippie_hunter]

Wow that team looks a bit heavy on the female species. But w/e. As for the adults? Starfire probaly died (sorry guys) Vics probaly on the JL, Donna, Nightwing, and Gar might just go solo or something...
Starfire is not dead. She survived 52 and will be in a mini with Animal Man and Adam Strange.

There's a reason why Raven, Cyborg, and Jericho are not on the Teen Titans team when McKeever takes over. And judging from the final pages of Titans East, it seems that an adult Titans team with Donna, Jericho, Raven and others will form.

Nightwing will remain on the Outsiders for a while but hopefully not too long now that Batman is taking the team over.

Cyborg is very likely to join the Justice League, but I hope not. He's more
suited for the Titans, the League needs someone more powerful than him (considering that their roster includes people like Hawkgirl, Red Arrow, Black Canary, Batman, Black Lightning, and Vixen) and it would be out of character for him to eagerly join.

Anyone who thinks that Blue Beetles ongoing will suffer should look at Robin he joined YJ when his ongoing was only a few issues in so I don't think we should worry.
Blue Beetle is probably going to get canceled in the near future.

[Colossal Spoons]

Three Wonderwoman-class Fems,... One lantern class mech and two batman class streetlevelers,..... and a demon????

Who won't they be able to beat?

1 measly Deathstroke :whatever:

[TheCorpulent1]

Why doesn't Miss Martian have a better costume? Or look like her true white Martian self? Everybody knows already, so it's not like it's a secret. I want to like MM, but she's just so... lame... right now.

[Kitsune]

how could starfire die when shes headlining a new series?

We do have Earths 0-51 now.

[sinewave]

in that interview with mckeever he mentioned that blue beetle only appears in one issue, so it's not a given that he's a full fledged member, but i'm hoping he is. i don't really care for supergirl, but she does give them a huge amount of power. i'd like to see mckeever ditch ravager and bring speedy back. she'd fit in much better with that group.

[Colossal Spoons]

Speedy :up:

[yenaled]

Is this the first time in the history of comic books that women have out numbered the men in a superhero comic?

Also do you think this shows that Cyborg is probably the 11th member in JLA?

[Kitsune]

Is this the first time in the history of comic books that women have out numbered the men in a superhero comic?

Not if you count Fem Force....

[Darthphere]

Is this the first time in the history of comic books that women have out numbered the men in a superhero comic?

Also do you think this shows that Cyborg is probably the 11th member in JLA?

Or dead.

[Kitsune]

Or dead.

Just like Jason Todd, Jericho, Hal Jordan, and Oliver Queen?

[Darthphere]

I never said how long he would stay dead.

[sinewave]

Or dead.

that's what i was thinking. he's been slowly withdrawn from the titans leadership role over the last year or so. they might be leading up to his death.

[Mogwai]

That cover is great, hopefully DC is making Garza the new artist.

[Primal Slayer]

Because she's characterized as an insufferable *****.

Mainly. :o

She hasn't been bad in Brave and the Bold. But then, Waid's characterization of her is totally different than her normal characterization.

Her charecterization has been for a reason and it is resolved by issue 19. By issue 20 her issues are going to be gone.

But to the person who asked if they should read the book, right now SG is a love/hate book so you could possibly like the current issues, you just have to see for yourself. But you might as well jump on now (starting with issue 16) or wait until issue 20 since issue 16 starts her origin arc and issue 19 wraps up that arc, so with issue 20 she will be on an new arc, with a slightly different personality (less memory issues) and a new writer.

[Green Lantern]

Because she's characterized as an insufferable *****.

Mainly. :o

She hasn't been bad in Brave and the Bold. But then, Waid's characterization of her is totally different than her normal characterization.She's good in S&TLOSH too :o I think that Waid's is the only good characterization of the new Supergirl :o

[cerealkiller182]

Is this the first time in the history of comic books that women have out numbered the men in a superhero comic?

Gen13, prolly not the first but before this.

[CConn]

Her charecterization has been for a reason and it is resolved by issue 19. By issue 20 her issues are going to be gone.Just because she has a reason for being a ***** doesn't mean I can enjoy reading her being a *****.

[Hellstormer]

Cyborg is very likely to join the Justice League, but I hope not. He's more
suited for the Titans, the League needs someone more powerful than him (considering that their roster includes people like Hawkgirl, Red Arrow, Black Canary, Batman, Black Lightning, and Vixen) and it would be out of character for him to eagerly join. Why is buddy Roy's already there and he'd easily be on the same class of Black Lightning. They have enough pure strength (Wonder Woman, Superman, Hawkgirl, and Geo-Force) Now they need more specialists and thinkers. Currently they have Batman, Black Canary, Black Lightning, and...

[Colossal Spoons]

Or dead.

You'd like that wouldn't you? Can't have BL, Vixen, AND Cyborg on the team huh!? :cmad:



/Celldog

[The Ether]

I'm glad that Mckeever is taking over Teen Titans. I don't mind Beechen's work but the his dialogue he wrote on the last issues of Teen Titans was just horrible. Garza's artwork is great to have since the last artist was just terrible. never saw Randy Green's work before, hope it's good.

I didn't like Supergirl for the same reasons as everyone else but i gave her another shot and picked up the last issue. Mostly because of Garza's art. The issue is really interesting and I might continue picking up the rest of the arc.

Blue Beetle is one of the most underrated series on DC at the moment. All issues have been great, especially the last one. It really would be a shame if the series get cancelled.

[Mogwai]

Randy Green did the cover for the next issue (#47), he's pretty good.

[hippie_hunter]

Why is buddy Roy's already there and he'd easily be on the same class of Black Lightning. They have enough pure strength (Wonder Woman, Superman, Hawkgirl, and Geo-Force) Now they need more specialists and thinkers. Currently they have Batman, Black Canary, Black Lightning, and...

Geo-Force is not a member of the League, he's....just there for some reason :dry:

[cerealkiller182]

why dont they keep him around as the 11th member? Even though I'd really like Cyborg in the League, they have done the best job with building up Geo-Force

[CConn]

why dont they keep him around as the 11th member?Because he sucks?

[The Leaguer]

He does suck.

[Eros]

I was hopeing they would just kick out Hal and geo-force and just add Kyle Rayner, or Kyle can just make his own superhero team.

[batnkevlar]

Yeah, Geo-Force sucks, moreso than Hal... I mean, c'mon, there's other people to ***** about other than Hal on the League...

[The Leaguer]

Hal eclipses everyone in crappiness.

[cerealkiller182]

i know nothing about Geo-Force, but from what they have done with him in the first JLA arc, he's the only one I am the least bit interested about

[batnkevlar]

Hal eclipses everyone in crappiness.

Nope, Geo-Force is crappier... name one book where Geo-Force is cool... Hal was at least cool in JLA Year One and New Frontier... and Brave and the Bold (with Barry)...

[Harlekin]

Where Geo-Force was cool? Original Outsiders title, and bits of the follow-up.

[Varient]

1 measly Deathstroke :whatever:

I'm thinking BB could take him alone,.. Slade doesn't have the skinny on him,.. and this is because his history is sparse,... add to that that the beetle is keeping a death machine in check by force of will,.. and Slade is toast if he can hurt the beetle.

on a serious note,... that last fight was so overbalanced i'm surprised more are not protesting.

[The Leaguer]

Nope, Geo-Force is crappier... name one book where Geo-Force is cool... Hal was at least cool in JLA Year One and New Frontier... and Brave and the Bold (with Barry)...

I'm afraid that Hal was cool in none of those.

[Varient]

Is this the first time in the history of comic books that women have out numbered the men in a superhero comic?

Also do you think this shows that Cyborg is probably the 11th member in JLA?

1. In Marvel and DC,.. yes,.. but teams like gen 13 have this beat by decades,..

2. It's gonna sound awfull,.. but I don't want cyborg on JLA,... They don't deserve him unless he's able to unlock the morphing armor he is principly made of.

For that matter,.. they don't deserve Steel or GeoForce either.

Steel because they so casually dumped him after HE DIED and came back damaged.

Geo-Force because they ignored one of the few on the planet that could give pre-crisis superman a Black Eye.

[hippie_hunter]

Meltzer is just probably setting Geo-Force up for Winick's new Outsiders. Considering that they are close friends in real life, I can see that happening.

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, Geo-Force sucks, moreso than Hal... I mean, c'mon, there's other people to ***** about other than Hal on the League...
Like Vixen and Hawkgirl

Hal eclipses everyone in crappiness.
Except Vixen and Hawkgirl

[The Leaguer]

Very incorrect.

[hippie_hunter]

If you put your blatant blind hatred of Hal aside, you can see that Vixen and Hawkgirl are way lamer than him.

You're just pissed that he ironically replaced Kyle.

[batnkevlar]

Yeah, so much Hal hate... Hal wasn't cool in JLA Year One or Brave and the Bold? C'mon man, loosen up...

[Hellstormer]

Why the Brion hate, I like him and he is a member of the current JL. Just go check 52 week 51 (I tihnk) he's on the teamshot in a new suit.

Anyone know if Batgirl's gonna stick around on the team (as if they needed more girls)

O and Hal only got in the league because he sucked Superman's dick :o

Kyle should've been there :(

[Anubis]

Why?

[Mogwai]

Batgirl, along with Duela, disappeared at the end of #46.

[hippie_hunter]

Why the Brion hate, I like him and he is a member of the current JL. Just go check 52 week 51 (I tihnk) he's on the teamshot in a new suit.

He's not in the League. He's not in any of the group shots in the cover of issue 7 or the photo. And the 11th member of the League will appear in the JLA/JSA crossover.

As I said, I really wouldn't be surprised to see Meltzer setting Geo-Force up for Winick when Batman takes over the Outsiders.

[Kevin]

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/titans/TT-Cv50.jpg

This line up is so freaking awesome! Now if they can only get Speedy back on the team.
cover looks terrible

[Ultimate_Superman]

I have not and will not buy another Teen Titans book until Conner comes back. Hell even the reason why he died has become pointless now that we have all these Earths out there when he did trying to stop that from happening.

[Darthphere]

I have not and will not buy another Teen Titans book until Conner comes back. Hell even the reason why he died has become pointless now that we have all these Earths out there when he did trying to stop that from happening.

You didn't even read Infinite Crisis did you?:csad:

[Anubis]

Bah, he wont be missed.

[Mogwai]

At least Teen Titans has a 'trinity' again with Supergirl joining.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Supergirl IMO should have stayed dead if they were going to bring her back to act like how she does now.

[Ultimate_Superman]

You didn't even read Infinite Crisis did you?:csad:Yes I did. I am just speaking out of anger though don't mind me. I just feel like Conner died for nothing because they made it seem like Conner died trying to stop Alex from bringing back all these Earths and now that we have them what was the point of him dying?

[Darthphere]

Yes I did. I am just speaking out of anger though don't mind me. I just feel like Conner died for nothing because they made it seem like Conner did trying to stop Alex from bringing back all these Earths and now that we have them what was the point of him dying?

But that's not why he died, at all. Conner died because Alex Luthor was going to destroy all the Earths, including New Earth. Wow, you really didn't read IC did you.:o

[Ultimate_Superman]

But that's not why he died, at all. Conner died because Alex Luthor was going to destroy all the Earths, including New Earth. Wow, you really didn't read IC did you.:oHe died because Alex was going to destroy all earths in order to find the perfect Earth but at the same time all these new Earths were destroying the one they lived on. So he died trying to stop both events from happening. I understand why he died I just feel it was pointless to for them to say he died trying to stop the Multi-Universe from happening when it happened anyways.

[Darthphere]

He died because Alex was going to destroy all earths in order to find the perfect Earth but at the same time all these new Earths were destroying the one they lived on. So he died trying to stop both events from happening. I understand why he died I just feel it was pointless to for them to say he died trying to stop the Multi-Universe from happening when it happened anyways.

Are you ****ing retarded?:huh:

He did not die trying to stop the multiverse from happening. He died trying to stop everyone from ****ing dying.

[Anubis]

Duh! Way to miss the point.

[Varient]

(smiling at the instigators being the "voices of reason")

I'm sure both of you needed the equiv of a purge of some sort after fighting your innate nature to really let him have it.

[Darthphere]

I think calling him a ****ing retard was more than enough.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well Darth unlike you I won't result to name calling or cursing I am just going to say besides saying all those people his point of death at the time was to stop the Multi-Universe from coming back.

[Saved]

Wait, what team are Cyborg, Changeling, Raven, and Starfire going to be on now? My last issue was 41, so don't blame me for being out of the loop.

[Darthphere]

Well Darth unlike you I won't result to name calling or cursing I am just going to say besides saying all those people his point of death at the time was to stop the Multi-Universe from coming back.

Oh my god, you literally are ****ing retarded.:csad: :csad:

[Ultimate_Superman]

Oh my god, you literally are ****ing retarded.:csad: :csad:so be it

[Saved]

Wait, what team are Cyborg, Changeling, Raven, and Starfire going to be on now? My last issue was 41, so don't blame me for being out of the loop.
Hello?

[Darthphere]

Hello?

Relax, it's only been 10 minutes, and for your impatience, I won't answer your question.

[Saved]

I know how you are, Darthphere, you wouldn't have answered my question anyway.

[CConn]

Oh my god, you literally are ****ing retarded.:csad: :csad:
I knew that like a year ago.

[Darthphere]

I know how you are, Darthphere, you wouldn't have answered my question anyway.

Reverse psychology doesn't work on me.

[Saved]

Reverse psychology doesn't work on me.
Who says I was using reverse psychology on you. Just stating a fact. And, BTW, no psychology works on you.

[Varient]

lol
I needed to at least smile today,... thanks guys for the entertainment.

[Kebab gud]

Wait, what team are Cyborg, Changeling, Raven, and Starfire going to be on now? My last issue was 41, so don't blame me for being out of the loop.
Beast boy is in Doom Patrole, Starfire is in.. something (Countdown to Adventure miniseries starting in august)

Cyborg will be joining the JLA (i bet 50.cent on it! Mckeever said he wanted TEENS in the Teen Titans)
and Raven.. outsiders?

[Saved]

Yeah, I read about Beast Boy, forgot. Starfire must still be in space then? And Cyborg in JLA, awsomeness.

[sinewave]

raven should join shadowpact. i've never cared for her, but she'd fit in nicely with that group.

[Saved]

Raven has been a focal point of the titans since it began. To make her leave is a little retarded. I mean, I find Raven as a 5 out of 10, but no one can deny that the comic revolved around her.

[Varient]

lol
I needed to at least smile today,... thanks guys for the entertainment.

[Darthphere]

Who says I was using reverse psychology on you. Just stating a fact. And, BTW, no psychology works on you.

That made zero sense if that was an insult.:huh:

[Varient]

twisted,..

[Saved]

Yeah, exactly.

[sinewave]

Raven has been a focal point of the titans since it began. To make her leave is a little retarded. I mean, I find Raven as a 5 out of 10, but no one can deny that the comic revolved around her.

she was a big part of the new teen titans, but i wouldn't say the book revolved around her. it looks like she's leaving anyway so if that's the case i think she'd make a good addition to shadowpact, due to her magic-based powers.

[Saved]

Yeah, I'd go with that. But, she founded the team, was revived a million times, fought trigon like 3 times with her, and her powers influenced and effected the team almost all the time.

[Green Lantern]

Yeah, I'd go with that. But, she founded the team, was revived a million times, fought trigon like 3 times with her, and her powers influenced and effected the team almost all the time.
Actually she didn't found the team. She helped to bring the Titans back together, but the founders of the team were Dick Grayson, Donna Troy, Roy Harper, Garth, and Wally West.

[cerealkiller182]

Shes like the Teen Titans Jean Grey, she has too much baggage and drama but ii didnt think they'd get rid of her. isnt she getting a miniseries or something.

[BrianWilly]

She was supposed to be getting a miniseries like last year or something. George Perez was attached, I think? I dunno what's going on now.

[Kevin]

I just read issue 46 and I must say, these last 2 issues have been he worst issues of titans I've ever read. Oh my god.

And the reason for Slade creating the team, although I accept it, it still left me saying, "Gay."

[Hellstormer]

He's not in the League. He's not in any of the group shots in the cover of issue 7 or the photo. And the 11th member of the League will appear in the JLA/JSA crossover.

As I said, I really wouldn't be surprised to see Meltzer setting Geo-Force up for Winick when Batman takes over the Outsiders.
Are you even reading Justice League they've been building him up to make him the 11th member. And before you denied what I said maybe you should've checked the issue.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2145/p1010010nu8.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9080/p1010011xa1.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2108/p1010012ba1.jpg
I do believe that says the "Justice League of America" in the corner.

And just to further prove my point...
http://dccomics.com/heroes_and_villains/?hv=justice_league_of_america
http://dccomics.com/heroes_and_villains/?hv=justice_league_of_america&p=2

[Kebab gud]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=110524 <-- download and listen .. Geo-Force is NOT a member (straight from Meltzers mouth..)

[yenaled]

Are you even reading Justice League they've been building him up to make him the 11th member. And before you denied what I said maybe you should've checked the issue.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2145/p1010010nu8.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9080/p1010011xa1.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2108/p1010012ba1.jpg
I do believe that says the "Justice League of America" in the corner.

And just to further prove my point...
http://dccomics.com/heroes_and_villains/?hv=justice_league_of_america
http://dccomics.com/heroes_and_villains/?hv=justice_league_of_america&p=2

If the Wizard website wasn't being so crap I'd link you to the interview Meltzer and Johns gave after JLA#8 when they talked about the next member of the League was going to be revealed in the crossover and who the possible candidates were. Meltzer flat out said Geo-Force wasn't a member.

[Saved]

Actually she didn't found the team. She helped to bring the Titans back together, but the founders of the team were Dick Grayson, Donna Troy, Roy Harper, Garth, and Wally West.
Yes, I know that they founded the Teen Titans. I'm talking about the New Teen titans. Sorry, should've specified. She reformed the team.

[Mandi-chan]

Raven is my absolute FAVORITE DC character.

She's the reason why I started watching the Teen Titans cartoon.

She's the reason why I picked up the current Teen Titans comic (Vol. 3), which lead me to the "New Teen Titans" comics (which are freaking amazing!).

So, I want more of her damn it! I haven't read ANY of OYL yet and I'm not sure I will...OYL as a whole sounds horrible to me.

We get the beginnings of the cute Raven/Beast Boy relationship...then OYL happens and we learn that they were indeed a couple but broke up.

WTF?!

Batgirl (My second favorite DC character, even though I still haven't read any of her comic yet) goes from being a great part of the Bat-Family to a completely out-of-character looney (and she still sounds out-of-character even though she's not being drugged anymore).

The writing for Teen Titans OYL and OYL as a whole (from what I've been reading here) sounds like it sucks royally. And the artwork looks pretty horrid too.

It just doesn't seem worth my money.

Even though Teen Titans Vol. 3 didn't hold a candle to the Marv Wolfman/George Perez stuff, I still liked it and thought it was pretty good. But since OYL, it sounds like it's gone down the crapper.

Is Raven even in the comic anymore? Are they gonna address her relationship with Gar, or put them back together (they cheated us out of their relationship already!)?

When the heck is that Raven miniseries that Marv Wolfman (or was it George Perez) was going to write coming out?

Like I said before, Raven's my favorite DC character (Cassandra Cain aka Batgirl III is my second favorite)...so I'd love to read anything that has her in it (I can't say the same for Batgirl III since OYL writing for her has sucked).

Please tell me it's going to greatly improve (both writing and art-wise)!

[Mogwai]

Even though Teen Titans Vol. 3 didn't hold a candle to the Marv Wolfman/George Perez stuff, I still liked it and thought it was pretty good. But since OYL, it sounds like it's gone down the crapper.


Hopefully the new guy will bring it back to greatness.

[hippie_hunter]

Are you even reading Justice League they've been building him up to make him the 11th member. And before you denied what I said maybe you should've checked the issue.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2145/p1010010nu8.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9080/p1010011xa1.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2108/p1010012ba1.jpg
I do believe that says the "Justice League of America" in the corner.

And just to further prove my point...
http://dccomics.com/heroes_and_villains/?hv=justice_league_of_america
http://dccomics.com/heroes_and_villains/?hv=justice_league_of_america&p=2

I do own that issue of 52 and they put him in because he is currently INVOLVED with the Justice League. Sorta like how Batman wasn't a member in the Justice League cartoon yet he was part of the roster.

Geo-Force is not a member. Meltzer says that he isn't. He and Johns are introducing a new member soon (most likely Cyborg). And he's most likely getting set up to re-join the Outsiders. I win.

[Anubis]

Actually, that's a whole lotta assuming and most likelys. He's got proof in print. Interviews with the creator not withstanding, for right now, he's correct.

[Primal Slayer]

Just look at who they put in the TT line-up in their 52 origin and the team is getting a revamp now, Geo-Force is a guest member and thats about all.

[cerealkiller182]

Batman and Geo-Force have their eyes closed. They're the only ones. Batman is leaving for the Outsiders, maybe Geo-Force is going with him.

And the people against Geo-Force have to lighten up. Its not like the people who thought he was on the team didnt have good reason to think so.

[Saved]

Raven is my absolute FAVORITE DC character.

She's the reason why I started watching the Teen Titans cartoon.

She's the reason why I picked up the current Teen Titans comic (Vol. 3), which lead me to the "New Teen Titans" comics (which are freaking amazing!).

So, I want more of her damn it! I haven't read ANY of OYL yet and I'm not sure I will...OYL as a whole sounds horrible to me.

We get the beginnings of the cute Raven/Beast Boy relationship...then OYL happens and we learn that they were indeed a couple but broke up.

WTF?!

Batgirl (My second favorite DC character, even though I still haven't read any of her comic yet) goes from being a great part of the Bat-Family to a completely out-of-character looney (and she still sounds out-of-character even though she's not being drugged anymore).

The writing for Teen Titans OYL and OYL as a whole (from what I've been reading here) sounds like it sucks royally. And the artwork looks pretty horrid too.

It just doesn't seem worth my money.

Even though Teen Titans Vol. 3 didn't hold a candle to the Marv Wolfman/George Perez stuff, I still liked it and thought it was pretty good. But since OYL, it sounds like it's gone down the crapper.

Is Raven even in the comic anymore? Are they gonna address her relationship with Gar, or put them back together (they cheated us out of their relationship already!)?

When the heck is that Raven miniseries that Marv Wolfman (or was it George Perez) was going to write coming out?

Like I said before, Raven's my favorite DC character (Cassandra Cain aka Batgirl III is my second favorite)...so I'd love to read anything that has her in it (I can't say the same for Batgirl III since OYL writing for her has sucked).

Please tell me it's going to greatly improve (both writing and art-wise)!
Its vol. 4. The current Titans series is 4, some could argue 5.
Teen Titans = Silver Age
New Teen Titans/Tales of the Teen Titans = 1980
New Teen Titans = 1984
The Titans = 90's
Teen Titans = 2004

[Fledermaus]

Batman and Geo-Force have their eyes closed. They're the only ones. Batman is leaving for the Outsiders, maybe Geo-Force is going with him.



:up: :dry:

[Green Lantern]

Its vol. 4. The current Titans series is 4, some could argue 5.
Teen Titans = Silver Age
New Teen Titans/Tales of the Teen Titans = 1980
New Teen Titans = 1984
The Titans = 90's
Teen Titans = 2004
Wrong... It is vol. 3 of Teen Titans. Volume 1 ran for 53 issues, from January 1966- February 1978.

New Teen Titans was a separate title completely, not volume two of Teen Titans. As was New Teen Titans v. 2.

Teen Titans vol. 2 was the ill-fated Dan Jurgens/George Perez which ran for 25 issues in 1996-1998.

The Titans was also not a volume of Teen Titans, and ran from 99-03.

Therefore the current Teen Titans series is Vol. 3 of Teen Titans, though it is the sixth to feature the team. Seventh if you count Team Titans.

[Hellstormer]

I do own that issue of 52 and they put him in because he is currently INVOLVED with the Justice League. Sorta like how Batman wasn't a member in the Justice League cartoon yet he was part of the roster.

Geo-Force is not a member. Meltzer says that he isn't. He and Johns are introducing a new member soon (most likely Cyborg). And he's most likely getting set up to re-join the Outsiders. I win.
Why would they put him in a group shot and give him a new costume and build him up all through the run. And I wanna see this interview where Metzler where he says Geo-Force isn't a member. Seems like a lot of work.

[yenaled]

Why would they put him in a group shot and give him a new costume and build him up all through the run. And I wanna see this interview where Metzler where he says Geo-Force isn't a member. Seems like a lot of work.

Considering Waid retconed everything Meltzer set up already for the origins for the league - it's safe to say he hasn't really spoke to him and just went for a guess.