Teen Titans/Titans Discussion Thread

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree, only keep Eddie around as, I don't know, base maintenance or something.

[Colossal Spoons]

Love that roster. Add Bombshell and I'm good to go.


I know, I'm the only Bombshell fan in the universe. Anubis seems to think I have a metal fetish for some reason lol

[Mogwai]

like that roster too...word is superboy is coming back soon.

[TheCorpulent1]

Love that roster. Add Bombshell and I'm good to go.


I know, I'm the only Bombshell fan in the universe. Anubis seems to think I have a metal fetish for some reason lol
Bombshell struck me (lulz, get it?) as Ravager, Take 2.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, they are ridiculously similar. And oddly enough, they have no chemistry on paper. Their trash talking to each other just makes me ":rolleyes:"

[JonathanKNathan]

Yeah, they are ridiculously similar. And oddly enough, they have no chemistry on paper. Their trash talking to each other just makes me ":rolleyes:"I'm glad the creative community is finally standing up and saying, "Yes, there is a place for *****y, whiny, angsty teenage girls that are passed off as 'strong female characters.'" We certainly don't have enough of them in American pop culture.

[Colossal Spoons]

For a while, Cassie was easily the most angsty female character in comic books(when she wasn't making our w/ Robin mid-battle). Rogue would be proud :down:

[Assassin]

whats with people wanting Gail Simone? eww

[CBG]

whats with people wanting Gail Simone? eww

For comics? Secret Six goodness.

[JonathanKNathan]

whats with people wanting Gail Simone? ewwBirds of Prey Secret Six All-New Atom what?

[Assassin]

i mean why her on this book? eww

[TheCorpulent1]

She's very good at getting the voices of characters, which this book could use, and she wrote a similar (if far more dysfunctional) team in Welcome to Tranquility really well. Plus, she could bring back a bit of the old Young Justice humor if she's allowed to bring Superboy, Robin, and Kid Flash back to the team alongside Eddie and Blue Beetle.

[hippie_hunter]

*Get a better writer
I've already stated numerous times who I want

*Get a good, consistent artist
But just who would be a good artist for Teen Titans?

*give us a roster of Robin (Tim), Superboy (Connor), Impulse, Wonder Girl, Static, Miss Martian, Blue Beetle, and Aquagirl.
I think that Bart is never going to go back to being Impulse. I'd also add Red Devil if he gets his powers back, Speedy, and Offspring.

[hippie_hunter]

Bombshell struck me (lulz, get it?) as Ravager, Take 2.

I find Bombshell to be even worse than Ravager. At least Ravager was cool to read before McKeever came on board.

[CBG]

She's very good at getting the voices of characters, which this book could use, and she wrote a similar (if far more dysfunctional) team in Welcome to Tranquility really well. Plus, she could bring back a bit of the old Young Justice humor if she's allowed to bring Superboy, Robin, and Kid Flash back to the team alongside Eddie and Blue Beetle.

Not likely. DiDio himself hates YJ and outright stated that the DCU has no place for it and its kind of humour.

I find Bombshell to be even worse than Ravager. At least Ravager was cool to read before McKeever came on board.

Agreed.

[batnkevlar]

Didio can suck my huevos...

[Mogwai]

i'd love to see the team from young justice form a new team...get wonder girl off teen titans.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't. Young Justice should rightly graduate into the Teen Titans. The elements are all there. It's just that DC refuses to let them follow their natural course and have all the big names.

[hippie_hunter]

I'd like to see a new Young Justice with Damien, the West twins, Lian, and Chris Kent if they ever de-age him like they did with Bart.

[TheCorpulent1]

Does Lian have powers?

[cerealkiller182]

i've seen her dress up in the speedy costume a few times and carry a bow and arrow, but I doubt they wrote in some skills yet.

[TheCorpulent1]

She's still like 10 at most, isn't she?

[hippie_hunter]

She's still like 10 at most, isn't she?
She's rather inconsistent. On one hand in Outsiders, she was portrayed as something like a first grader at most. But in Flash, she looked to be the same or close "age" to Wally's kids.

[TheCorpulent1]

Flash: Rebirth? I don't think Van Sciver actually knows how to draw children, to be honest.

[Colossal Spoons]

He sure doesn't

[JonathanKNathan]

Not likely. DiDio himself hates YJ and outright stated that the DCU has no place for it and its kind of humour.I feel like DiDio's backing off pretty hard from iron-fisted control. He lost himself some good creators, he lost himself a LOT of readers, and he lost himself some pretty good story ideas (Countdown could have been pretty decent, I suspect) by doing things his way and his way only. Wednesday Comics would never have happened under the Dan DiDio of 2006, or 2007, or even the early part of 2008.

I wouldn't. Young Justice should rightly graduate into the Teen Titans. The elements are all there. It's just that DC refuses to let them follow their natural course and have all the big names.Sounds like a job for Keith Giffen, J.M. DeMatteis, and Kevin Maguire. When DC won't put the big hitters on the team, turn the whole book into a joke and it'll be the success story of the decade.

[TheCorpulent1]

I feel like DiDio's backing off pretty hard from iron-fisted control. He lost himself some good creators, he lost himself a LOT of readers, and he lost himself some pretty good story ideas (Countdown could have been pretty decent, I suspect) by doing things his way and his way only. Wednesday Comics would never have happened under the Dan DiDio of 2006, or 2007, or even the early part of 2008.
Why not? What's more iconic than taking the most recognizable versions of characters and pairing them with the biggest creators in out-of-continuity tales? It sure worked for All-Star Superman.

[hippie_hunter]

Flash: Rebirth? I don't think Van Sciver actually knows how to draw children, to be honest.

No, the last arc in Flash before they cancelled it. They had Jai and Iris hanging out with Lian and she looked to be the same age as Wally's kids (who are biologically around 8 and 10).

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm. I don't remember that. I guess if all else fails, she could sit around the base and be comic relief.

[hippie_hunter]

Hmm. I don't remember that. I guess if all else fails, she could sit around the base and be comic relief.

If 8-10 year old Damien can go around being a little ****head and Robin, Lian would be awesome to have as an archer for a new Young Justice :cmad:

Seriously, I really would love to see that. I'm going to pitch it to DC right now.

[TheCorpulent1]

Damian's only 8 to 10 years old? Geez, I thought he was like 15. Then again, he was trained by assassins from birth, so he's got a leg up on Lian, who's been trained to... do nothing from birth.

[hippie_hunter]

Damian's only 8 to 10 years old? Geez, I thought he was like 15. Then again, he was trained by assassins from birth, so he's got a leg up on Lian, who's been trained to... do nothing from birth.

If Damien was any older than 10, then he would have been born before Batman even met Talia. Hell, he's probably closer to 8.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, right, sliding timeline goodness. This s*** gets confusing, man. :csad:

[CBG]

Until a Crisis reboot.

[cerealkiller182]

I have really enjoyed McKeever's run. It was angsty, but it was good teenage angsty where they had problems but they tried to fix it rather than before McKeever showed up where where they were angsty and just *****ed about it and acted very emo. Further more, I was really liking Red Devil, except that they should maybe have played up his tech skills someone once pointed out to me he seemed to have back in Blue Devil. I just wish Didio wasnt such a buzzkill about the Young Justice level humor. I really enjoyed YJ and know I really want to go back and reread it. I really wish Lagoon Boy and the Point Men and Empress were used more. I think they could at least find a good balance of humor and drama. I wonder if thats why McKeever is leaving since he said it was "creative differences" Cause it did seem to be flowing toward a team with better morale and comradery.

[hippie_hunter]

McKeever's run had a lot of unused potential.

[CBG]

I didn't like McKeever's run.

[Laplace_Zombie]

I wish Misfit had stayed in the team for just a little longer.

[hippie_hunter]

I finally finished my New Teen Titans collection today :up:

[Mogwai]

you mean the new, new teen titans, right? ;)

[Assassin]

She's very good at getting the voices of characters, which this book could use, and she wrote a similar (if far more dysfunctional) team in Welcome to Tranquility really well. Plus, she could bring back a bit of the old Young Justice humor if she's allowed to bring Superboy, Robin, and Kid Flash back to the team alongside Eddie and Blue Beetle.

gross

[the_ultimate_evil]

If Damien was any older than 10, then he would have been born before Batman even met Talia. Hell, he's probably closer to 8.

if thats true that means him hooking up with that teenage girl in battle for the cowl one is quite disturbing

[batnkevlar]

He wasn't necessarily hooking up with her, he was showing off...

[hippie_hunter]

you mean the new, new teen titans, right? ;)

Nope :oldrazz:

I own all of both volumes of Marv Wolfman's New Teen Titans including the annuals along with all of the non-reprint Tales of the Teen Titans. I've been wondering if I should get the reprints of Tales of the Teen Titans and more New Titans to fully finish the set or if I should focus more on my Avengers or Superman collections.

[RAMORE]

I'd like to see a new Young Justice with Damien, the West twins, Lian, and Chris Kent if they ever de-age him like they did with Bart.

Who's Chris Kent? I miss YJ alot:csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Chris Kent is General Zod's son, adopted by Clark and Lois a while back and promptly forgotten until he reappeared with a case of accelerated aging as the new Nightwing in Action Comics.

[RAMORE]

What the hell when did that happen how did zod have a son. Does he have powers? Why did they adopt him? I thought Jason Todd was the imposter:eek:

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know specifics, since I didn't read any of the stories he was in. Here's his Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kent_(comics)

[BrianWilly]

Just in case you thought Teen Titans might be getting good anytime soon... (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090620-heroes-DC-universe.html)Will the Teen Titans roster be settling down soon? a fan asked. Cunningham said that the arc that starts in #72 will “change things slightly in an awful way for our characters...they’re not going to like it.”Hahahahahaha DC you stupid ****s.

[hippie_hunter]

God dammit. It's like while DC is off fixing all the other franchises that they've screwed up like Wonder Woman, Justice League, and Flash, they're just content on making Teen Titans worse and worse :(

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, that's a prospective $4 that gets to stay in my wallet after all.

[hippie_hunter]

DiDio moved then to the next team book, "Teen Titans," and received thank yous from the crowd for putting Static in the line-up. "We always talk about diversity. And we have this wonderful group of characters that help diversify the DC Universe in Milestone universe. We finally got to the right point where we were able to work all those books together. I think they've enhanced the overall DC Universe just by coming in. I think [Static] adds a lot to the Teen Titans. He's a great character."

Continuing on the book, DiDio said fans will start seeing a more stable team starting with issue #75, adding that a "couple of returning characters are going to be coming back in"

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21691

[CBG]

Eh. I LONG lost interest in TT.

[Mogwai]

i read an article on titanstower.com where they said they're pretty sure this title is just on 'holding status' b/c there's word of a teen titans relaunch next year. makes sense with everyone coming back from the dead lately.

[TheCorpulent1]

If they get Conner, Cassie, Tim, and Bart on the team with good creators, I'll give it a try. That's really the core of this iteration of the Titans, and the fact that DC just won't wise up and do that is becoming annoying.

[CBG]

Plus, it'd be Young Justice all over again.

And we all know how DiDiot feels about that.

[RAMORE]

That would be awesome! Update everybody get the gang back together and get a good writer and decent artist!!

[Mogwai]

Plus, it'd be Young Justice all over again.

And we all know how DiDiot feels about that.
but they were titans after that...

[so-tite]

The preview to today's issue was pretty good.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?gid=1137

[Assassin]

Just read Tiny Titans, its the best book out right now. Art Baltizar said he's gonna use my ideas, or he will try, if they allow him too. Since Kid Flash is there and Bart came back from the dead, I told him to make Baby Implulse, and Superboys joining when Lot3W concludes, and I asked him to make a Blackest night tie in lol, he doesnt think that ones possible.

He had a Battle for the cowel and Faces of evil/final crisis tie in lol

[CBG]

but they were titans after that...

Any semblance of YJ that DiDio catches on, he'll do his best to shoot down.

[Assassin]

Ha

Tiny Titans Blackest night Tie in :up:

[BrianWilly]

Tempest returns...and...uh... (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/07/03/tempest-returns-what-more-do-you-need-to-know/)ugh.

So Dolphin and Cerdian are just dead now (again) without any fanfare whatsoever. Ugh. Grimdark is the best dark. :rolleyes:

[hippie_hunter]

Tempest returns...and...uh... (http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/07/03/tempest-returns-what-more-do-you-need-to-know/)ugh.

So Dolphin and Cerdian are just dead now (again) without any fanfare whatsoever. Ugh. Grimdark is the best dark. :rolleyes:

Actually that makes me feel bad for Tempest. I mean it's not like how Marvin was killed being all brutal and whatnot and the pages of Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis had him looking for his family. It just makes me go awww....:csad:

[TheCorpulent1]

Whatever. I wasn't expecting Tempest to get much of a break anyway. He never has before. There's no mention of his condition from the last couple arcs of Aquaman, either, but that's par for the course at DC these days.

[BrianWilly]

The more I think about it the more it irritates me. That's two characters with a bunch of history and potential that a lot of writers put a lot of thought into, and now they're just instantaneously gone, probably without a second thought 'cause, hey, now he'll be "easier to write," yeah?

[Colossal Spoons]

If Tempest joins the TTs then, I won't drop this book. But otherwise, I'm gone after this arc. Cassie's brooding depression is becoming too much to handle.

I kinda hope Robin, Kid Flash, and Superboy start their own TT team cuz this one sucks :whatever:

[hippie_hunter]

Whatever. I wasn't expecting Tempest to get much of a break anyway. He never has before. There's no mention of his condition from the last couple arcs of Aquaman, either, but that's par for the course at DC these days.

Tempest was shown without his condition in Final Crisis so would it really make sense for him to be back being unable to breathe underwater in Titans which is taking place after Final Crisis?

[hippie_hunter]

If Tempest joins the TTs then, I won't drop this book. But otherwise, I'm gone after this arc. Cassie's brooding depression is becoming too much to handle.

I kinda hope Robin, Kid Flash, and Superboy start their own TT team cuz this one sucks :whatever:

Tempest is joining Titans, not Teen Titans.

[Colossal Spoons]

Tempest is joining Titans, not Teen Titans.

Ha, I love that book. So long, TT

[The Eagle Host]

There's a new writer coming to Teen Titans, though. I think I'll pick it back up when she (I think it's a chick) comes on.

[CBG]

there's a new writer coming to teen titans, though. I think i'll pick it back up when she (i think it's a chick) comes on.

finally.

[TheCorpulent1]

There's a new writer coming to Teen Titans, though. I think I'll pick it back up when she (I think it's a chick) comes on.
I'll pick it up when it's got a recognizable cast again. I like Blue Beetle, Lorena, Kid Devil, and Static, but they don't really feel like a Teen Titans team to me without the mainstays to play off of.
Tempest was shown without his condition in Final Crisis so would it really make sense for him to be back being unable to breathe underwater in Titans which is taking place after Final Crisis?
Nope, that just shifts the fault to Morrison and/or whichever artist drew that scene in Final Crisis. FC wasn't too big on details anyway, as far as I hear, given that Aquaman appeared as well and that had to be cleared up in interviews later. My point stands: clearly DC isn't all that concerned with internal cohesion in their universe at this point. Which is fine.

[The Eagle Host]

I liked Final Crisis.

[TheCorpulent1]

I haven't read it. I'm waiting for them to put it out in TPB.

[The Eagle Host]

It did suffer from a lack of cohesion, and the dialogue was characterized by "soundbites," which is a habit Morrison has fall into of late, but the ideas Morrison puts forth are unparalleled by modern writers.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's why I'm going to read it. I had no interest in it as part of DC's ongoing continuity, but what I've heard about its merits as a story sounded interesting.

I just wish they didn't take 4 months to put out the damned hardcover, plus however many more months it'll take for the TPB to follow that.

[The Eagle Host]

The hardcover is fantastic, and probably won't end up being much more expensive than the softcover. Not that I remember how expensive the hardcover was.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's $30. The TPB will probably be closer to $20.

[CBG]

Around there.

I'm waiting for the eventual Absolute edition.

Crises Trilogy? They already did COIE. IdC, InfC, and FC will eventually be given similar treatment, I expect, some years down the road.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't get an absolute for the Crises. Frankly, I don't think Identity Crisis or Infinite Crisis are worth giving that treatment to. CoIE, either.

[The Eagle Host]

I'd buy an absolute that collected all three post CoIE crises.

[CBG]

I wouldn't get an absolute for the Crises. Frankly, I don't think Identity Crisis or Infinite Crisis are worth giving that treatment to. CoIE, either.

IdC, I completely disliked.

InfC, I'd get.

I'd buy an absolute that collected all three post CoIE crises.

Collecting all three post-COIE in one Absolute volume? Interesting, but not likely.

GL may also be treated to Absolutes -- Rebirth, SCW, and Blackest Night now.

[hippie_hunter]

Green Lantern: Rebirth is rumored to get an Absolute edition

[The Mighty Thor]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22137

Interview with Felicia Henderson.

[TheCorpulent1]

Green Lantern: Rebirth is rumored to get an Absolute edition
Not surprising. Even though I liked (most of) the story, though, I don't think I'd pay to see Ethan Van Sciver's art blown up to Absolute scale. He's the sort of artist who's great at dazzling you with flashy visuals but falls short when you actually start to scrutinize his work.

[CBG]

Truthfully, I don't like Van Scriver's art.

His faces look. . . mad or pissed. All the time.

Bottom-line, I don't like his line-work with the face.

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree. His proportions are usually a little bit off, too.

[WompuM]

Speaking of Teen Titans, this book desperately needs Bart Tim and Connor back. Imagine those three, along with Cassie, Amy, Jaime, Virgil, and Red Devil. That's a fantastic lineup.

[TheCorpulent1]

Who's Amy?

My picks for the Titans would be Bart, Conner, Cassie, Jaime, Virgil, Eddie, Lorena, M'gann, and maybe Kid Destiny. Tim needs to sort out his bulls*** and drop the tortured soul routine before he contaminates the Titans with it.

[WompuM]

Right, I meant M'gann, I always confuse her and Bombshell's names. I don't know anything about Lorena or Kid Destiny. And I feel like after Blackest Night, a character as associated with death like Kid Destiny will really be stale.

Just no Bombshell or Ravager for the love of God.

[TheCorpulent1]

Lorena's spunky. God, I gotta reread those Sub Diego comics. She and Officer Malrey were a great new supporting cast for Orin.

[BrianWilly]

I don't like Lorena in the TT book. She seems kinda...****ty.

[TheCorpulent1]

Figures. Everything I hear about the Teen Titans series makes me glad I decided not to start reading it again, even though I like most of the characters on the team now.

Did you read the Sub Diego stuff in Aquaman's last series?

[CBG]

I'd like to see PAD on TT.

Yes, it's an excuse to see some semblance of YJ.

But god knows, DiDiot won't allow it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Bombshell is awesome :mad:

[BrianWilly]

Figures. Everything I hear about the Teen Titans series makes me glad I decided not to start reading it again, even though I like most of the characters on the team now.

Did you read the Sub Diego stuff in Aquaman's last series?Oh, I thought you've read it. I don't know why I'd think that, considering. Anyway, here she is ****ting at Jaime (http://i39.tinypic.com/10xr5dy.jpg). And in case you're wondering, that's Traci next to him. His, y'know, real girlfriend.

I did read the Sub Diego run, and found it mercifully ****less. :up:

[WompuM]

Everyone I know (okay, mostly Hush) goes on and on about the end of the last series of Aquaman. I need to pick it up.

[Hush]

Dude if you can find it, INSTANT BUY! Its so good, a really good way to write a book and example of awesome characterization.

Plus the Water Hand is just like the coolest thing ever and it was so under used like completely in every possible way it could have been under used it was but what they did with was so much awesome that they made up for it.

[sethcohen]

Bombshell is awesome :mad:
is it opposite day already?

[Colossal Spoons]

If so, I can't wait for Batman to return :heart:

[sethcohen]

lmao... i really wish DC would have kept barry dead, would have the BALLS to keep bruce dead and lets supes retire... i really want the reins handed off to a new generation

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, I thought you've read it. I don't know why I'd think that, considering. Anyway, here she is ****ting at Jaime (http://i39.tinypic.com/10xr5dy.jpg). And in case you're wondering, that's Traci next to him. His, y'know, real girlfriend.

I did read the Sub Diego run, and found it mercifully ****less. :up:
I picked up the issue where the Titans held their membership drive, but I didn't really like it in spite of Lorena and Virgil's addition and previews of the next issue didn't win me over, so I decided not to pick up any further issues.

That page makes me so glad I didn't. I'll wait until the new writer comes aboard to try it out again. It's sad that I really want to read Teen Titans so much that I'm constantly trying it out but DC refuses to oblige me by actually making it good. :csad:
Dude if you can find it, INSTANT BUY! Its so good, a really good way to write a book and example of awesome characterization.

Plus the Water Hand is just like the coolest thing ever and it was so under used like completely in every possible way it could have been under used it was but what they did with was so much awesome that they made up for it.
I thought I was an Aquaman fan, but I think Hush would marry the guy if he could get Will Pfeiffer or Rick Arcudi to officiate...

[Colossal Spoons]

lmao... i really wish DC would have kept barry dead, would have the BALLS to keep bruce dead and lets supes retire... i really want the reins handed off to a new generation

Would you keep Clark on New Krypton? And would you want Mon-El to be our new "Superman"?

[sethcohen]

neither of those things would bother me... like i said, i think that mon el should have been given a superman outfit by supes himself as a way of attaining instant credibility... most people have never seen enough of superman to know much besides he has black hair, flies and wears a blue suit with a red cape

[Colossal Spoons]

Mon-EL and Kal in the Superman suit would look identical right? Or does Mon-El have that shaggy hair I've seen some artists give him.

[TheCorpulent1]

Mon-El doesn't look that much like Superman. They're not twins from different planets or anything. They just happen to both have black hair, and comics are notorious for making every male with black hair look the same. Mon-El is also a bit smaller than Clark, based on everything I've seen of him. Clark's a massive wall of a man. Mon-El's more average in size.

[sethcohen]

Mon-EL and Kal in the Superman suit would look identical right? Or does Mon-El have that shaggy hair I've seen some artists give him.
not completely identical... like corp pointed out, clark is bigger than mon el... that being said, he could just slick his hair back when in the super suit.

Mon-El doesn't look that much like Superman. They're not twins from different planets or anything. They just happen to both have black hair, and comics are notorious for making every male with black hair look the same. Mon-El is also a bit smaller than Clark, based on everything I've seen of him. Clark's a massive wall of a man. Mon-El's more average in size.
which also shouldnt matter too much... most people have only seen glimpses of him and thats while hes in action... he already let jimmy olsen in on the fact that mon el is guarding the city now... he could have just asked jimmy to back him up by taking photos at the right angles... nothing that cant be explained away...

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Mon-El could easily impersonate Clark. I don't know why he would, though. Superman's had fill-ins in Metropolis before.

[sethcohen]

well considering a lot of people assume he is in fact a kryptonian AND considering that with the exception of kal, kara, zor el, power girl and conner (that i can think of) the majority of the kryptonians have been ***** at best to the people of metropolis, and at worst tried to subjugate them (im looking at you zod), the people of metropolis may not be ready to accept him. or robinson could just write it that they are... which he did :cmad:

[TheCorpulent1]

All of those Kryptonians you mentioned are Kryptonians that Superman would vouch for, though. If he vouched for Mon-El, I don't see why the citizens of Metropolis wouldn't accept him as well.

[sethcohen]

but they all have had some level of exposure to the public doing good deeds (or in the case of zor-el, being a diplomatic voice of reason and ambassador of his people). mon-el, has not. if i were a citizen of metropolis and i just lived through and assault on the city by zod, then had 100,000 krytonians show up, (who get vouched for by supes himself) only to turn around and murder police officers escorting a prisoner they deemed a threat to themselves... well id be wary of supermans judgement wouldnt you?

[Colossal Spoons]

Maybe Sodam Yat could protect Metropolis for a while :o

[BrianWilly]

Three things:

1)Mon-El has been working almost exclusively with Guardian and the Science Police, and is therefore technically under their jurisdiction. So for all purposes, he's a "registered" officer of the law.

2)Mon-El is not a Kryptonian, and this has been fairly publicized. He has nothing whatsoever to do with the Kryptonians beyond their :super:uperficial powers, and wouldn't be the first superhero like that.

3)Thankfully, the great thing about DCU citizens is that -- unlike another universe we're all familiar with -- they are in fact not gibbering idiots intent on busting out pitchforks and torches at the first sign of trouble. They're actually capable of looking at things pretty rationally and optimistically. There would be exceptions of course, especially amongst fanatics like General Lane, but given the above two facts most people would probably be level-headed about Mon-El's appearance, especially in Metropolis which has always had good relations with its metas.

[WompuM]

Today is the Hype's worst day ever.

Also, does Mon-El not have black eyes? I am not sure as to which Dacamites have that trait or not.

[Colossal Spoons]

lol im teh Hype i sux double poststs

Best 2x post frustration message I've ever seen. Bravo :D

[TheCorpulent1]

3)Thankfully, the great thing about DCU citizens is that -- unlike another universe we're all familiar with -- they are in fact not gibbering idiots intent on busting out pitchforks and torches at the first sign of trouble. They're actually capable of looking at things pretty rationally and optimistically. There would be exceptions of course, especially amongst fanatics like General Lane, but given the above two facts most people would probably be level-headed about Mon-El's appearance, especially in Metropolis which has always had good relations with its metas.
To anyone who thinks he's exaggerating, read JLA: World War Three. The DC Earthlings are f***ing awesome compared to the real world's or Marvel's.

[Colossal Spoons]

Good riddance Kid Devil. You were useless the second you lost your powers :o

[WompuM]

Wait, what? Did he die? Did I miss an issue today?

*check diamond*

Damnit, I did miss it! How, I bought Titans but I missed this? Damn.

[Colossal Spoons]

Did a Titans come out today, or just the BL tie-in?

[cerealkiller182]

Thats too bad. I liked him. Theres a blacked out character on a cover of TT. I figured it was the person about to die in Teen Titans, but it didnt look like Eddie at all.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2447/13362400x600.jpg

[cerealkiller182]

Did a Titans come out today, or just the BL tie-in?

Just BL tie in I think

[Colossal Spoons]

Thought so, thanks

[WompuM]

Did he go to Nekron or what?

Edit: Not Nekron, that other devil guy who Eddy made the deal with? Nero? Nueron?

[hippie_hunter]

To anyone who thinks he's exaggerating, read JLA: World War Three. The DC Earthlings are f***ing awesome compared to the real world's or Marvel's.

Why does Marvel write their citizenry to be complete retards :csad:

[BrianWilly]

What the ****ing helldick? Eddie died? What? What seriously?

On the DC citizens topic, I wouldn't say they're completely benign. A percentage is slowly but surely turning against Superman 'cause of all these Kryptonians basically doing nothing but being ass holes while on Earth. Although, even in that instance it's at least sort of justifiable, since Superman himself seems to side with the Kryptonians all the time and never speaks out against their actions...

[Colossal Spoons]

Did he go to Nekron or what?

Edit: Not Nekron, that other devil guy who Eddy made the deal with? Nero? Nueron?

Neron lol. And we still don't know yet.

What the ****ing helldick? Eddie died? What? What seriously?


Yeah, and in the most ass way possible too. He was flying this guy who was pretty much a living nuke in a jet, away from the city so nobody would get hurt in the explosion. He didn't eject at the last moment b/c he didn't wanna chance the jet veering off course :dry:

[BrianWilly]

Wow. Wow.

Wow.

:dry:

I really hope this is simply setup for Blackest Night to resurrect him because...wow.

...wow.

[CBG]

Eh? Who killed off Eddie, Red Devil?

[Colossal Spoons]

Answer 2 posts above ya :up:

[so-tite]

Good riddance Kid Devil. You were useless the second you lost your powers :o

Couldn't he have just rebuilt the suit?

[Colossal Spoons]

What suit?

[WompuM]

His old Kid Devil suit, before he was a demon.

[Lobo]

I just read Spoons post about Eddie...:dry:

[Colossal Spoons]

I guess not he'll never grow up into the huge muscle-y version of himself we saw from the future.

[batnkevlar]

Oh, because every death on comic books means they're gone for good...

[Colossal Spoons]

This is true. DC has been killing a lot of people recently with Blackest Night going on. Maybe there's gonna be a massive resurrection in a few months.

[WompuM]

Meh. I hope not. I'd like Arthur and J'onn back sure, but since getting Connor and Bart again, I really am less committed to the cause as I once was.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hawk and Tempest? :(

[cerealkiller182]

Hawk and Tempest? :(

Definitely like Hawk and Tempest to come back. Like to see Tempest take the reigns of the Aquaman title. Definitely want to see Red Devil come back. Liked him even without his powers. The way they seem to be killing people in Blackest Night I certainly expect to see those people return. I just wonder if its all or nothing.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hal will bring everybody back when he goes all White Lantern

[BrianWilly]

Seriously, who is still buying this book? Why do you despise your money?

Did they at least get around to explaining Wonder Girl's new inexplicable lasso powers and whatever the hell it's supposed to do?

[WompuM]

I think so. They also gave her bracelets again.

[BrianWilly]

Soooo...what does it do, now, exactly?

[storyteller]

Honestly I saw no charred remains and given the nature of how he got his red devil powers(Oh hey remember the guy who took them away as well and is cursed with them?). Eddie may not be fully dead. Though honestly this book really has bad timing. The theme is about how titans are dead and yet.

The poster boys for this generation of titans have been back a while. Seeing Superboys and Kid Flash statue has no meaning anymore.

Also the new team thing is getting really stale. The "well this group just isnt gonna work out" has been played out.

[hippie_hunter]

On the DC citizens topic, I wouldn't say they're completely benign. A percentage is slowly but surely turning against Superman 'cause of all these Kryptonians basically doing nothing but being ass holes while on Earth. Although, even in that instance it's at least sort of justifiable, since Superman himself seems to side with the Kryptonians all the time and never speaks out against their actions...

Come on, you just can't compete with a citizenry that outright accepts Norman Osborn while rejecting Spider-Man and the X-Men.

[BrianWilly]

Oh I agree. I'm just saying they're not exactly hapless little lambs that can't see anything but goodness around them. They can -- and will -- turn against even the likes of Superman if given sufficient reason to.

[TheCorpulent1]

"Sufficient reason" is significantly higher in the DC universe than the Marvel universe, though.

[Laplace_Zombie]

What the ****ing helldick? Eddie died? What? What seriously?



My thoughts exactly. I think the team made a point to the JLA that they didn't need supervision... seems the moment the big guys decided to leave the team alone everybody started getting killed. And if not killed killed, characterwise killed.

It seems every time I consider buying TT again, there's another "a Titan dies" story, which's already gone from thrilling to boring to unimaginatively effing retarded.

[Varient]

Good riddance Kid Devil. You were useless the second you lost your powers :o

????

I didn't want him to die.
I wanted him to tech out in updated kid devil gear.

Good death though,... he did it right.

*Comment* I thought BB had Supersonic flight/sublight/ and FTL travel capabilities. - Why couldn't he catchup to the T-Ship?

[WompuM]

Oh I agree. I'm just saying they're not exactly hapless little lambs that can't see anything but goodness around them. They can -- and will -- turn against even the likes of Superman if given sufficient reason to.

"Sufficient reason" is significantly higher in the DC universe than the Marvel universe, though.

I'm surprised he's still allowed on Earth with the whole New Krypton thing happening.

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't think it was a good death. He could have just pointed the ship towards the upper atmosphere and bailed. "Didn't want the ship to veer off course" :whatever:

[cerealkiller182]

Good enough death. I dont think he went down like a punk. He did something he thought was right.

The writers seem to have it out for Eddie for awhile anyway. Lost faith in his older hero counterpart, lost his powers, lost his connection to Neron, than lost his life. It was a slow death. Which was too bad cause he was a good character with great potential IMO

[BrianWilly]

I don't think it was a good death. He could have just pointed the ship towards the upper atmosphere and bailed. "Didn't want the ship to veer of course" :whatever:****ing seriously. What, was he afraid that he was going to miss the sky?

Hey, hey guys, guess what's slightly to the west of San Francisco. It's called the ocean. There's nothing on it.

[WompuM]

Yeah, quite stupid. How about, hey Nuclear Guy, you're not putting up a fight anyway, point this ship at the sky while you're dieing. Thanks.

[Colossal Spoons]

Good enough death. I dont think he went down like a punk. He did something he thought was right.

The writers seem to have it out for Eddie for awhile anyway. Lost faith in his older hero counterpart, lost his powers, lost his connection to Neron, than lost his life. It was a slow death. Which was too bad cause he was a good character with great potential IMO

I so wanted to see him become Red Devil. not evil, of course.

****ing seriously. What, was he afraid that he was going to miss the sky?

Hey, hey guys, guess what's slightly to the west of San Francisco. It's called the ocean. There's nothing on it.

Haha, I'd never rolled my eyes that hard before.

Yeah, quite stupid. How about, hey Nuclear Guy, you're not putting up a fight anyway, point this ship at the sky while you're dieing. Thanks.

Yeah, he was just in the back of the ship squirming and moaning.

[CConn]

So I'm assuming TT's quality hasn't skyrocketed upwards since I dropped the title?

[Colossal Spoons]

When'd you bail out?

[CConn]

When I realized Marv Wolfman's Vigilante really needs to be cancelled.

[Assassin]

Sean McKeever was the last high point, so no you havnt missed anything

[Varient]

I don't think it was a good death. He could have just pointed the ship towards the upper atmosphere and bailed. "Didn't want the ship to veer off course" :whatever:

he would've died anyway,... a blast the size of Hiroshima? he'd have to be 25 / 30 miles away to get by on radiation poison,... no,... I don't blame him for sticking it out,... I just didn't want him dead,... DC doesn't have enough tech heroes,..

[Nightwing]

Can someone tell me what's
going on with BB and Wonder Girl?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8725/38761223.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Idk but I don't like it!

[sethcohen]

i doubt anyone would...

[Nightwing]

Yeah and especially how that in that image it shows her to be
preggers. :meanie:

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm sure it's not real and just some Black Lantern prophesy that'll never come true.

[Nightwing]

Maybe. Since there's that whole "of the future" talk in the panel.

Also, has there been anything on Tim possibly rejoining the team after his solo adventure?

[Colossal Spoons]

It Tim stays the way he is now, I don't want him back on the team. He's the most miserable and angsty kid I've EVER seen.

[Varient]

Can someone tell me what's
going on with BB and Wonder Girl?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8725/38761223.jpg

?
Okay.
Wondergirl and a beetle?
A female teen titan Pregnant?
(Here's to hoping it's Ms Martian)

Which reminds me? Wouldn't she and Beast Boy be a better match than Beastboy and Raven?

[Nightwing]

It Tim stays the way he is now, I don't want him back on the team. He's the most miserable and angsty kid I've EVER seen.
Yeah, I mean I picked up Red Robin #2 in which he has a convo with Steph and he's all like "I wish I could talk to you, but I won't, despite the fact that you're right here begging me to."

:facepalm:

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, he was all "this hideout is compromised now :cmad:"

[Kitsune]

Seriously, who is still buying this book? Why do you despise your money?


All the people who like Rose Wilson

[WompuM]

It's an Origins and Omens thing. It's supposed to be vague.

[TheCorpulent1]

Jaime shouldn't be kissing anyone other than Traci Thirteen, goddamnit. That particular omen had better not come to pass, especially since Cassie just made up with Conner, too.

[WompuM]

Especially!

[TheCorpulent1]

Shut up. :argh:

[WompuM]

:awesome:

[BrianWilly]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090928-10-annswers-dan-didio.html
1) needcomicmoney wrote:
Is Titans going to be cancelled? With Donna, Kory and Vic going to the League and Beast Boy and Raven seemingly returning to the Teen Titans it looks like there will be no need for this book to continue.

Dan DiDio: We're going to have a new Titans team coming your way very soon. You'll see a lot of familiar faces, and maybe a couple new ones. And more importantly, it's being led by Deathstroke. So I think you'll see a new direction for the series, and hopefully, people will stick on board. I don't want to give away what the story is about, but it's tied very closely to Titans lore, and it's also tied very closely to a lot of events taking place in Justice League. So a lot of your familiar faces of Titans, just because they might be on other teams doesn't mean you won't be seeing them in the book.

Newsarama: But the Titans team that is led by Deathstroke is separate from the Teen Titans comic, correct?

DiDio: Correct. This will also show a clear delineation between the two teams and their goals.:facepalm: :wall: :waa: :down:barf: :doh: :ikyn

[hippie_hunter]

:barf:

[cerealkiller182]

Another mirror image Titans team. They are gonna ride that til it finally works huh? So much for that. I thought the Terror Titans worked.

[hippie_hunter]

It's times like this that pisses me off that Teen/Titans are books that I refuse to drop :argh:

[Kitsune]

Another mirror image Titans team. They are gonna ride that til it finally works huh? So much for that. I thought the Terror Titans worked.

Rehashing storylines is pretty much the stock in Trade with Titans now. Joseph is evil again... Raven is Evil again.... I'm surprised they haven't done Robin becomes Nightwing again.. .they could since Dick is Batman.

[Nightwing]

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3213/darthvadernooo1.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Here's hoping this 592847th Mirror Titans book will be better than the current TT book :o

[CBG]

Not again. . . son of a. . .

[WompuM]

I bet a freshly minted nickel that somehow Ravager shows up because... WE DEMANDED IT!!!!!! :@:@:@:@ :barf: :barf:

[hippie_hunter]

Damn you Dan DiDio! DAMN YOU TO HELL! :argh:

[WompuM]

And that Beast Boy issue was so good too. Oh well, I would gladly sacrifice Titans if it means BB, Raven, Conner, and Bart back on TT. I wish Speedy would rejoin too. God that book was good once.

[hippie_hunter]

But I don't even want Beast Boy and Raven on Teen Titans. They belong on Titans with their family (still can't get over the fact that DiDio is putting ****ing Deathstroke on the team :barf: ). This is the team that should be the next JLA for crying out loud!

The Teen Titans should just have Red Robin, Wonder Girl, Superboy, Kid Flash, Aquagirl, Speedy, Blue Beetle, Static, and Miss Martian. Teenagers getting together to get away from the mentors and be friends while fighting threats.

[WompuM]

When you throw in Aquagirl and Miss Martian, it makes it seem a little too Morrison's JLA Jr. As much as I love M'gann, she just has that effect. Throw in a Teen Lantern and that's all she ****ing wrote.

[Colossal Spoons]

But I don't even want Beast Boy and Raven on Teen Titans. They belong on Titans with their family (still can't get over the fact that DiDio is putting ****ing Deathstroke on the team :barf: ). This is the team that should be the next JLA for crying out loud!

The Teen Titans should just have Red Robin, Wonder Girl, Superboy, Kid Flash, Aquagirl, Speedy, Blue Beetle, Static, and Miss Martian. Teenagers getting together to get away from the mentors and be friends while fighting threats.

Agreed 100%. I'd love that TT team

[CBG]

**** the TT and Titans.

Bring back Young Justice.

[hippie_hunter]

When you throw in Aquagirl and Miss Martian, it makes it seem a little too Morrison's JLA Jr. As much as I love M'gann, she just has that effect. Throw in a Teen Lantern and that's all she ****ing wrote.

The thought of a Teen Lantern makes me go :csad: over how stupid that sounds.

[TheCorpulent1]

Kyle was on the Titans for a while. ;)

I don't really care that Titans is gonna be a villain team led by Deathstroke. I don't read it anyway.

Also, I changed the title of this thread to better reflect its content now (and because I was bored).

[batnkevlar]

Kyle Rayner used to be Teen Lantern. Any estimate of how old he was when he first got his ring?

[TheCorpulent1]

Mid '20s. He was never "Teen Lantern," since the Titans at that point were an adult team anyway.

[hippie_hunter]

Mid '20s. He was never "Teen Lantern," since the Titans at that point were an adult team anyway.

Exactly. There's a huge difference between a 25 year old and 15 year old.

[hippie_hunter]

Kyle was on the Titans for a while. ;)

I don't really care that Titans is gonna be a villain team led by Deathstroke. I don't read it anyway.

Also, I changed the title of this thread to better reflect its content now (and because I was bored).

NO! I am ****ing pissed. All I ever wanted was a Titans book to go along with Teen Titans with the original five founding members and the five Wolfman Titans along with some occasional appearances by other Titans like Herald, Bumblebee, and whatnot and what the **** do I get.

Jericho goes evil, Winick is put on the title, and when there are signs that the book will finally become good, they turn it into a team led by ****ing Deathstroke.

It's like I'm getting my ass jammed with razor sharp pieces of glass and I'm paying DC to do it :cmad:

[WompuM]

Well you know, you don't have to pay them. Frankly, Teen Titans looks like it might be heading in the right direction and I am fine with that.

[hippie_hunter]

Titans is one of those books along with Avengers, Superman, Deadpool, and Aquaman that will never be dropped.

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm glad I don't care about the Titans that much. I imagine the post-OYL period has been especially tough on you, what with both Titans and Teen Titans sucking for at least 90% of it so far.

[hippie_hunter]

I'm glad I don't care about the Titans that much. I imagine the post-OYL period has been especially tough on you, what with both Titans and Teen Titans sucking for at least 90% of it so far.

:waa:

[Varient]

I think what I want to see from "Ms Martian" would be an "Everywoman" moment.

Since she is a telepath AND a shapeshifter I want her features and physical attributes adjust and shift when she relaxes near an individual titan,..

[WompuM]

But...she's so perky. I love her.

[TheCorpulent1]

I like Miss Martian, too. I wish she'd just be a white Martian, though. I don't like that she keeps covering up her heritage even though everyone knows she's a white Martian.

[WompuM]

There's gotta be a story somewhere, where she has some history with John, and is dressed as an homage to him. There are still Morrison White Martians brainwashed around the world correct? I know some of them escaped during the Id fiasco, but are there at least a few left? Perhaps M'gann is one of these?

[Anubis]

Jonn killed all the ones that got unbrainwashed during the Burning arc. Maybe she was freed from the Brainwashing like everybody else, but instead of going about the business of vengeance like the rest of them, she maybe grew to enjoy her time as a human and maybe decided to not be a douche bag anymore.

[Varient]

But...she's so perky. I love her.
http://forums.superherohype.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5968&stc=1&d=1254249145
.


define,.................. PERKY.

[WompuM]

define,.................. PERKY.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/vossjz/Screenshot2009-09-29at14350PM.png:hehe::awesome:

[Anubis]

That's a side boob.

[WompuM]

a PERKY side boob!

[TheCorpulent1]

Big deal. Who hasn't gotten pissed off and decapitated their future self at least once? :whatever:

[Anubis]

That guy from Torchwood. I think he f**ked it.

[TheCorpulent1]

Jack totally would, too.

[Anubis]

I really would like more superheroes to ask little questions like, "If I have sex with my alternate universe counter part, is that sex, or just masturbation?" Or, "How many anus' do you people have in this universe?"

[WompuM]

I'm sure Deadpool and Ambush Bug would.

[Anubis]

DP "Say, how many anus' do you people have?"

Alternate Universe Captain Amarica " Anus what is an Anus?"

DP " You know, that hole where poop comes out."

ACap "Poop?"

DP " Oh my God, these people are full of s**t."

[Varient]

I really would like more superheroes to ask little questions like, "If I have sex with my alternate universe counter part, is that sex, or just masturbation?" Or, "How many anus' do you people have in this universe?"
in order:
Sex
Generally ONE if it's your alt.



(mild sarcasm)

[Nightwing]

The Teen Titans should just have Red Robin, Wonder Girl, Superboy, Kid Flash, Aquagirl, Speedy, Blue Beetle, Static, and Miss Martian. Teenagers getting together to get away from the mentors and be friends while fighting threats.
Yesss. :up:

[LouFerignoDemon]

I'm glad I don't care about the Titans that much. I imagine the post-OYL period has been especially tough on you, what with both Titans and Teen Titans sucking for at least 90% of it so far.


You must be a betting man to say it's only been that bad. :awesome:

[hippie_hunter]

Is anyone else incredibly disturbed that DC is having a statutory rapist leading the Titans? A team that prides itself that they were once kids.

[RAMORE]

Who is that?

[RAMORE]

DP "Say, how many anus' do you people have?"

Alternate Universe Captain Amarica " Anus what is an Anus?"

DP " You know, that hole where poop comes out."

ACap "Poop?"

DP " Oh my God, these people are full of s**t."

This is so damn funny that is definately Deadpool quality dialog :grin:

[WompuM]

Who is that?

Deathstroke. Used to bang Terra he did.

[TheCorpulent1]

Icky. I didn't know that. :csad:

[LouFerignoDemon]

I wish I could post pedobear pics here now. =/

Though, that is a little odd that they would follow a child rapist.

[TheCorpulent1]

We don't know who "they" are yet. The current cast of Titans are either dead, moving to the JLA, or moving back to the Teen Titans. It seems like Deathstroke will have a totally new team.

[WompuM]

You didn't know that? Didn't you read Judas Contract?

Alright, let's break it down on who's leaving.

Nightwing/Batman - busy with Gotham
Red Arrow - JLA (I think)
Donna - JLA
Cyborg- JLA
Starfire - JLA
Raven -Teen Titans
Flash- Busy is Keystone/Central (I think)
Beast Boy- Teen Titans

[TheCorpulent1]

Nope, never read The Judas Contract.

Dick's joining the JLA, remember?

Also, Tempest is dead.

[WompuM]

It makes sense then that you didn't know that, seeing as how it was primarily explored in the Judas Contract, which you didn't read.

[Anubis]

Nope, never read The Judas Contract.

Dick's joining the JLA, remember?

Also, Tempest is dead.

He's dead?!? When the f**k did that happen?

[WompuM]

Bn#2

[Anubis]

How?

[TheCorpulent1]

Black Lantern Dolphin and Tula, I think, killed him and he immediately rose as a Black Lantern himself. They all chased Mera until they lost her.

[WompuM]

Black Lantern Arthur was also present.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, he was. He lol'd. Then he was really mean to Mera, which was... honestly, pretty standard fare for their relationship over the past ten years or so. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

The JLA is about to get really awesome, w/ all those Titans joining. Sucks that Raven and Gar have to mentor the current TT though.

[TheCorpulent1]

I tend to view it as the JLA getting all weird pretty soon. It feels very much like a substitute League, like the one from The Obsidian Age, not only because we know they're getting another new roster post-Blackest Night, but also because we know all of the heroes the Titans and Mon-El are replacing will be back pretty soon.

[BrianWilly]

Anyone wondering if TT has suddenly and inexplicably skyrocketed in quality now that we have another new writer on board, the answer is...not really.

There's nothing really bad about it, although Beast Boy is annoying and a horrible leader and I'm not sure what the hell they're trying to do with him here. I mean it's kind of the plot that he's a horrible leader, but...I dunno, I don't know what they're trying to do here. I just don't know.

And I just keep thinking, all these writers we've been getting must have a really horrible view of teenage girls.

[TheCorpulent1]

I flipped through this week's issue, read a snippet of Beast Boy's dialogue, and put it back.

[Colossal Spoons]

I tend to view it as the JLA getting all weird pretty soon. It feels very much like a substitute League, like the one from The Obsidian Age, not only because we know they're getting another new roster post-Blackest Night, but also because we know all of the heroes the Titans and Mon-El are replacing will be back pretty soon.

Yeah, it does feel kinda temporary

[Sawyer]

Who's writing this now?

[CBG]

Someone.

[Sawyer]

Someone.

Thanks, you're very helpful.

[Anubis]

Oh no, that's his name. Paul Someone.

[Laplace_Zombie]

**** the TT and Titans.

Bring back Young Justice.


Sometimes I think that I only joined this forum to have somewhere to rant about post OYL-Titans sucking, and saying I miss Young Justice.

[TheCorpulent1]

Who's writing this now?
Felicia D. Henderson. She's a writer/producer for various TV shows, including Fringe and Gossip Girl currently.

[Anubis]

So it will probably suck.

[TheCorpulent1]

Her first issue didn't seem overly impressive when I flipped through it at the shop. The statistics sure aren't on her side.

[Sawyer]

Felicia D. Henderson. She's a writer/producer for various TV shows, including Fringe

Oh! :wow:
and Gossip Girl currently.

Oh. :csad: