Teen Titans/Titans Discussion Thread

[Trigger]

It's not that complicated unless you read lots of team books. Most incarnations of these societies and teams have something unique about them.

[GoldenAgeHero]

is anyone else as confused as i am about all the different "brotherhoods" and "societies" in the supervillain population these days in comics? who can keep track of the teams, let alone all the members.

what do you mean? the old brothjer hood of evil was destroyed when kid eternity sent the leader back to hell or somewhere.

[TheCorpulent1]

Didn't Kid Eternity knock off Brother Blood, who is in no way associated with the Brotherhood of Evil? :confused:

Anyway, I can't think of many brotherhoods and societies. There's the Brotherhood of Evil, perennial foes of the Doom Patrol and, to a lesser extent, the Teen Titans. There's the Society, which is basically the anti-Morrison-era Justice League, with a core membership and the ability to call on the services of virtually any member of the villain community. Then there's the Secret Society of Super-Villains, which included the Fluoronic Man and the Wizard, who went to fight the JLA because of the mindwipes. Then there's the Injustice Society, which is basically the anti-JSA, with old villains and new villains alike, whose attempt to free Johnny Sorrow from another dimension was recently shown in JSA Classified.

[sinewave]

Didn't Kid Eternity knock off Brother Blood, who is in no way associated with the Brotherhood of Evil? :confused:

Anyway, I can't think of many brotherhoods and societies. There's the Brotherhood of Evil, perennial foes of the Doom Patrol and, to a lesser extent, the Teen Titans. There's the Society, which is basically the anti-Morrison-era Justice League, with a core membership and the ability to call on the services of virtually any member of the villain community. Then there's the Secret Society of Super-Villains, which included the Fluoronic Man and the Wizard, who went to fight the JLA because of the mindwipes. Then there's the Injustice Society, which is basically the anti-JSA, with old villains and new villains alike, whose attempt to free Johnny Sorrow from another dimension was recently shown in JSA Classified.

there's also the brotherhood of mutants in the marvel universe. that's why i said "in comics" and not "in the dcu", specifically. i dunno, i can never keep all the societies straight. i'm just thinking there's got to be better names out there for supervillain teams than rehashing "society" or "brotherhood". how about "the gaggle of goons" or "flock of fear"? :D

[BrianWilly]

What, when she was like 15 herself? I've never gotten the sense that Zatanna's much past 30 right now.Hey, if the equipment works...:O

But Kyle mentioned once that Zatanna was old enough to be his mother. He was probably exaggerating, but then you could consider that the character has been around in the League since Barry Allen times. She's a witch, and part homo magi, so it would make sense for her to look younger than she actually is.

[LadyVader]

Uhuhuhuhuh.

You said homo magi. :)

[cerealkiller182]

Zatarra doesnt necessarily have to be Zatanna's son. He could be cousin, brother, nephew. He doesnt even have to be related at all. He could be adopted or an apprentice.

[Primal Slayer]

Same Doom Patrol as always, plus Beast Boy.

Plus Bumblebee, she has joined the DP since a year has past.

[Nightwing]

Plus Bumblebee, she has joined the DP since a year has past.

Along with Herald.

[Iron Man™]

Can anyone please post pictures of Ravager in the book?

[Hellstormer]

Can anyone please post pictures of Ravager in the book?
http://dccomics.com/media/covers/4982_400x600.jpg

[Iron Man™]

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/4982_400x600.jpg

Thanks alot. :up: i haven't been able to pick up the beginning of TT one year later, so I was wondering if she changed her look. Do you have anymore, please?

[GoldenAgeHero]

TT#35 official cover

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/TT%20cvl35%28small%29.2.jpg

[sinewave]

man, wonder girl has really blossomed into a hot, badass b#*ch.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah shes hott on that cover i wonder if tim hasathing for her.

[The_Mystery]

I really miss the original New New Teen Titans :) Y'know, Robin, Superboy, Wondergirl, Kid Flash, Speedy. Just not the same anymore.

[GoldenAgeHero]

ok, thanks for sharing.....

[RAMORE]

jerk^

[GoldenAgeHero]

jerk^

here's a scooby snack, thanks for solving the mystery.

[RAMORE]

Just for the Mystery:

Teen titans evolve done by Leif over at heromorph hope you can see it:
http://tinypic.com/x1wobk.jpg

[The Ether]

TT#35 official cover

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/TT%20cvl35%28small%29.2.jpg
:eek: There's a walking elephant in this cover!!! I have to get this issue:D

OH and Wonder Girl is hot:up:

[sinewave]

Just for the Mystery:

Teen titans evolve done by Leif over at heromorph hope you can see it:
http://tinypic.com/x1wobk.jpg

cool manips. well, except for roy's hair in that second one. :)

[Nightwing]

TT#35 official cover

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/TT%20cvl35%28small%29.2.jpg

Nice cover. Daniel's art has been really great for this book, I hope he continues penciling for future issues.

[RAMORE]

cool manips. well, except for roy's hair in that second one. :)


actually it's a 3d program called poser...buy yeah that hair is not good.

[sinewave]

actually it's a 3d program called poser...buy yeah that hair is not good.

cool. is it free?

[RAMORE]

i don't know? probably could steal from somwhere on the web for free. Like limewire.

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm... the Wonder Girl cover looks like its shading was screwed up a little by the coloring. I liked the pencil shading more.

[Hellstormer]

Hmm... the Wonder Girl cover looks like its shading was screwed up a little by the coloring. I liked the pencil shading more.
I was thinking the same thing.

Those Titan Evolution pictures posted look awesome btw, but they need ont between the Kingdom come one and the Titans one it should have:
Aquagirl, Wonder Girl, Tim, Speedy, Bart

[Green Lantern]

I really miss the original New New Teen Titans :) Y'know, Robin, Superboy, Wondergirl, Kid Flash, Speedy. Just not the same anymore.Technically Speedy was never a full fledged "New Teen Titan" nor was Aqualad, just frequent guest stars. The "New Teen Titans" were Robin (later Nightwing), Kid Flash, Wondergirl (Later Troia), Beast Boy/Changeling, Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire.

[Green Lantern]

I was thinking the same thing.

Those Titan Evolution pictures posted look awesome btw, but they need ont between the Kingdom come one and the Titans one it should have:
Aquagirl, Wonder Girl, Tim, Speedy, BartWhy? Those are completely different people from the ones presented in that evolution. Aquagirl isn't Garth; Cassie isn't Donna; Tim isn't Dick; Mia isn't Roy; and Bart's not Wally.

[Hellstormer]

Why? Those are completely different people from the ones presented in that evolution. Aquagirl isn't Garth; Cassie isn't Donna; Tim isn't Dick; Mia isn't Roy; and Bart's not Wally.
I know it just seems like they should be their in my opinion as part of the legacy of those heroes.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well with Bart being the new Flash you now know he wont be back.

[Banshee]

At first I wasn't a big fan of Kid Devil and Ravager being on the team, but after today's issue I'm warming up to them a lot. And I don't even mind wonder girl's new look, I actually kind of like it.

[drastic_quench]

Man, how hot were Rose's scenes? Jesus. That handcuff gag was hilarious. HOT DAMN, indeed, Kid Devil.

[Ultimate_Superman]

When will she express how much Conner's death effected her.

[Mogwai]

When will she express how much Conner's death effected her.

I honestly think he'll be back sooner than later.

[Fledermaus]

Man, how hot were Rose's scenes? Jesus. That handcuff gag was hilarious. HOT DAMN, indeed, Kid Devil.

That was pretty great. It left me asking myself a question I hoped I never would: Is Robin gay?

[Ultimate_Superman]

I honestly think he'll be back sooner than later.Yeah but I want to see how his death effected her I mean she was in love with him, got back together with him, had sex for the first time with him and then he dies all in the same day or over a time period of 24hrs. That had to effect her and I want to see how.

[GoldenAgeHero]

When will she express how much Conner's death effected her.

impretty sure she did that during the missing year. i really dont expect herto break down crying now that its OYL.

[Spectre722]

Well with Bart being the new Flash you now know he wont be back.

HE'S NOT THE NEW FLASH! Read IC7, he lost his speed trying to takedown SBP.

just picked up 1 and 2. Robin's trying to reclone Connor! Holy ****! And you can definately tell Rboin's gonna get with Cassie. If not Cassie then Rose. Either way he'll be in deep **** with his friends when they meet again. If Connor comes back he'll be pissed he's gettin with his ex-girl. When Bart comes back he'll be pissed that he's gettin with the chick he has a thing for.

[Nightwing]

Bought issue #35 along with Infinite Crisis #7, and the series is still on a good route so far. The art was very well done again by Daniel, and the introduction of the new Brotherhood was nicely done. I'm looking forward to seeing the Doom Patrol's role in the arc, when #36 is available.

And as for the exchange between Rose and Tim during the beginning well....

Robin: "It's not what it looks like."



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[The Flash!]

Bought issue #35 along with Infinite Crisis #7, and the series is still on a good route so far. The art was very well done again by Daniel, and the introduction of the new Brotherhood was nicely done. I'm looking forward to seeing the Doom Patrol's role in the arc, when #36 is available.

And as for the exchange between Rose and Tim during the beginning well....

Robin: "It's not what it looks like."



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Right on, Bats. That was priceless. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: If I were Robin, I would've so tapped that when I got the chance like he did dammit! :o It was a great issue, and I hope Ravager and Robin hook up.

[BrianWilly]

Well it's possible Bart could still become the new Flash...we were told not to get too comfy with the first Flash we see in issue #1, and the first Flash we saw was Jay Garrick. And I doubt that Johns aged him to his twenties without good reason.

[batnkevlar]

Bart better get back to being a kid...

[Nightwing]

Right on, Bats. That was priceless. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: If I were Robin, I would've so tapped that when I got the chance like he did dammit! :o It was a great issue, and I hope Ravager and Robin hook up.

It's a possibility that they may. The issue kept teasing Rose with both Robin and Kid Devil, from the beginning all the way toward the end. The "strange romance" reference could've meant that Rose begins to approach someone in a "strange" way, like she did to Tim during the first few pages in #35 when she was apparently a bit drunk. Still, could be Kid Devil like we saw in the preview page where she lights her cigarette with his breath and not to mention the two share a bond with one another. Especially when he gets badly injured in the issue and she comes running to his aid, but only to be calmed down by Robin to let the paramedics take care of him.

We'll just have to wait and see.

[Assassin]

this was sweet, kid devil is actually cool

[spiderbob]

HE'S NOT THE NEW FLASH! Read IC7, he lost his speed trying to takedown SBP.

just picked up 1 and 2. Robin's trying to reclone Connor! Holy ****! And you can definately tell Rboin's gonna get with Cassie. If not Cassie then Rose. Either way he'll be in deep **** with his friends when they meet again. If Connor comes back he'll be pissed he's gettin with his ex-girl. When Bart comes back he'll be pissed that he's gettin with the chick he has a thing for.

Personally, I'd like to see Tim hook up with Rose. I find her to possess and interesting, not to mention attractive, personality that I think would go well with Robin. Needless to say it would be an interesting couple. The "son" of Batman hooked up with the daughter of Slade. Ironic to say the least. Also, I can't really see Tim getting into a relationship with Cassie when he's trying to revive her dead boyfriend. Just doesn't seem logical.

Anyways, issue was awesome and i can't wait for the next one. When does the next one come out?

[WOLVERINE25TH]

This issue was th' first time I ever wished I was Robin. Lucky SOB.

[Ultimate_Superman]

Same here Tim wouldn't do that to Conner I think he is not only trying to bring Conner back because they were best friends but also because he knows Cassie needs him as well.

[The Caped Knight]

Tim has grown up alot, In more ways than one He's becoming like Bruce everyday.

that trip Bruce, Tim & Dick took @ The end of INFINITE CRISIS #7. Tim really grew up a lot.

[GoldenAgeHero]

damn, likeveryone else im dissapointed in Robin, he should've reallt tapped that ass! i agree with spiderbob, theres definitely an interesting dynamic to be shown between robin and rose, i really hope they hookup.

[Doc Destruction]

Well it's possible Bart could still become the new Flash...we were told not to get too comfy with the first Flash we see in issue #1, and the first Flash we saw was Jay Garrick. And I doubt that Johns aged him to his twenties without good reason.

Incorrect - the first flash we saw was Bart. In the suit, in IC #5 or 6.

[Purple Man]

Incorrect - I believe he was referring to the first Flash we see in the new series.

Putting 'Incorrect' infront of your statement makes you look so matter of fact. Even when you can't remember which issue the Flash reappeared in.

Fact - the Flash returns in issue 5 of Infinite Crisis.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah anyways back to robin and rose, man these two need to hookup for real, you can tell robin wanted it.

[sethcohen]

tim wouldnt do that to bart... that would be such a jason todd thing to do...

[GoldenAgeHero]

tim wouldnt do that to bart... that would be such a jason todd thing to do...


the hell? bart and rose never had a real relationship anyways. I dont se why he cant. and its quite obvious rose doesnt care.

[Ultimate_Superman]

the hell? bart and rose never had a real relationship anyways. I dont se why he cant. and its quite obvious rose doesnt care.Your a funny person first it was Tim should take Cassie from Conner now its like screw Cassie Tim go after Rose.

[Nightwing]

the hell? bart and rose never had a real relationship anyways. I dont se why he cant. and its quite obvious rose doesnt care.

We all saw how there relationship would've turned out if they DID have one in the current verse when Titans Tomorrow came out. Other than that, Bart has only said he's had feelings for her to Raven. And as for Ravager she's only said that he was "cute" but Tim was "cuter."

[GoldenAgeHero]

Your a funny person first it was Tim should take Cassie from Conner now its like screw Cassie Tim go after Rose.


i was always rooting for tim to go with either one, one way or the other, in the end i'll be pleased.

[Purple Man]

I hate it when people don't know what the heck they're talking about.

Especially someone with a name like Batman.

Here's the quote from issue 11 of Teen Titans.

Rose says this after deflecting Robins attack and explaining her precognition.

"You're cute, you know. Not as cute as Kid Flash, but cute."

Who's cuter now?

[GoldenAgeHero]

We all saw how there relationship would've turned out if they DID have one in the current verse when Titans Tomorrow came out. Other than that, Bart has only said he's had feelings for her to Raven. And as for Ravager she's only said that he was "cute" but Tim was "cuter."


that doesnt mean tim has to stay away from her.

[BrianWilly]

Incorrect - the first flash we saw was Bart. In the suit, in IC #5 or 6.I was under the impression that they were talking about the new series proper (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Flash/NewFlash.htm) and not just IC. It doesn't really make sense for the cutoff point of this "first Flash" to be during IC; at the time of the interview didn't even know if any of the Flashes were ever going to show up again, after all.

[Hellstormer]

I hate it when people don't know what the heck they're talking about.

Especially someone with a name like Batman.

Here's the quote from issue 11 of Teen Titans.

Rose says this after deflecting Robins attack and explaining her precognition.

"You're cute, you know. Not as cute as Kid Flash, but cute."

Who's cuter now?
Yea and Bart and Rose had a bit of a thing in The New Titans when he was still IMpulse thought I like the idea of Tim and Rose I think it will be Bart and Rose in the end.

[Nightwing]

that doesnt mean tim has to stay away from her.

I know it doesn't, I was answering to your "bart and rose never had a real relationship anyways," comment. Thats why I was saying if they had ended up with eachother, like in "Titans Tomorrow."

[Assassin]

lol look at geoffjohns myspace, some chick wrote in the comments section, "i almost became a lesbian because of rose" lol

[GoldenAgeHero]

he has a myspace?

[The Flash!]

It's a possibility that they may. The issue kept teasing Rose with both Robin and Kid Devil, from the beginning all the way toward the end. The "strange romance" reference could've meant that Rose begins to approach someone in a "strange" way, like she did to Tim during the first few pages in #35 when she was apparently a bit drunk. Still, could be Kid Devil like we saw in the preview page where she lights her cigarette with his breath and not to mention the two share a bond with one another. Especially when he gets badly injured in the issue and she comes running to his aid, but only to be calmed down by Robin to let the paramedics take care of him.

We'll just have to wait and see.

World's Greatest Detective. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

lol look at geoffjohns myspace, some chick wrote in the comments section, "i almost became a lesbian because of rose" lol

Wha?!? I'd like to see that. :o Got a link please, and can someone post that scan of Rose and Tim? Like GoldenAgeHero said, I would've so tapped that.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but did anyone else get the feeling that Eddie's phone calls to Blue Devil aren't actually to Blue Devil? My guess is that Blue Devil is pulling a Superman on Kid Devil's Conner; Blue Devil actually doesn't give a rat's ass about him and Eddie's just overcompensating to appear less pathetic. He made a big deal about how overprotective BD was, which suggests he's trying to call attention to it.

[Assassin]

i cant get on myspace at work for some reason, myspace.com/geoffjohns i think

[The Flash!]

^ Yup, here it is. http://myspace.com/geoffjohns

Allan Hienberg even has one.

[hippie_hunter]

^ Yup, here it is. http://myspace.com/geoffjohns

Allan Hienberg even has one.

I found this funny

dude, I only have one thing to say:

HOLYF*****GS**T.

P.S. I think the Ravager officially made me a lesbian.

[Assassin]

yea there both on my friends list, geoff i son my top 8

[Elongated Man]

So, Rose......was....naked.....thanks Geoff.....:)

Issue kicked ass.

[Elongated Man]

BTW, I read that a new mini of Raven would be written by Marv Wolfman. Anyone picking it up?

[Elongated Man]

Another question, in issue 35 that came out yesterday, there was a mention of Zatara by Kid Devil. What do you guys think happend?

[Emerald Knight]

yeah, I might as well pick that up, as well as that new Titans East. They both sound interesting. And I'm now a titans freak thanks to Johns and Wolfman. :o

[Elongated Man]

Sweet, I'll be checking it out as well. Should be good.


I still can't get over the fact that there's some sexual tension between Robin and Ravager, and after she offered herself to him, he denies! That takes some serious guts.

[Emerald Knight]

Sweet, I'll be checking it out as well. Should be good.


I still can't get over the fact that there's some sexual tension between Robin and Ravager, and after she offered herself to him, he denies! That takes some serious guts.

Well, now that Robin's a bit more like Batman, after that pilgrimage thing, I thought that was well in character. Sure, he's still a teenager, but he was trained by the Bat, and Nightwing, he knows from their mistakes how to resist certain temptations...that and he seems to be unlucky in love *ahem*Spoiler*ahem*. ;)

and about Raven's book, it should be interesting because Wolfman was the writer when she first appeared, right? So who better to write out a miniseries? :up:

[Elongated Man]

Well, now that Robin's a bit more like Batman, after that pilgrimage thing, I thought that was well in character. Sure, he's still a teenager, but he was trained by the Bat, and Nightwing, he knows from their mistakes how to resist certain temptations...that and he seems to be unlucky in love *ahem*Spoiler*ahem*. ;)

and about Raven's book, it should be interesting because Wolfman was the writer when she first appeared, right? So who better to write out a miniseries? :up:

I agree completely, but I still think he should've gone for Rose when he had that chance. :mad:

[Green Lantern]

I'll not be getting the Raven mini series. I hate Marv Wolfman. Chuck Austen is a better writer. (and anyone who knows me, knows that that is complete sarcasm. Marv is my favorite writer in comic history. I can't wait for it :up:.) :D

And if you wanna talk unlucky in love... Tim has one dead GF. Kyle has 2.5 :o

[Assassin]

stop with the chuck austen bashing, hes better than bendis

[Green Lantern]

That is true, its just that he's an easier target :o

[Hellstormer]

I'll probaly pick up the Raven mini, does it occur during the missing year? And Titans East are getting their own series? What about Doom Patrol?

[Nightwing]

I'll probaly pick up the Raven mini, does it occur during the missing year?

Possibly. It was explained in issue #34 of Teen Titans that she quit the team after separating with Gar, so it could show a bit more of that. Though, the mini could be about what has become of her in One Year Later.

And Titans East are getting their own series?

Yes, it was announced yesterday.

What about Doom Patrol?

I don't think they'll have another one after having the latest series cancelled with only issue #18, and written by John Byrne. The team's appearence in the current Titans arc is as far as it goes for now.

[nightstreak]

Well with Bart being the new Flash you now know he wont be back.

Bart is most CETAINLY not the new flash, this has never been confirmed. We have to wait till june to find that out!

[nightstreak]

yeah, I might as well pick that up, as well as that new Titans East. They both sound interesting. And I'm now a titans freak thanks to Johns and Wolfman. :o

2 Questions:

1. What Titans East thing?
2. Whats this thing with Zattara, that Kid Devil mentioned?

[Mogwai]

Teen Titans, once again, is my favorite book. I think it's starting to be up to par with it's first arc (A Kid's Game) again. Daniel's art is great, but I'd also like to see McKone's take on the new characters.

Titans East...I'm not so sure about..

[hippie_hunter]

McKone is exclusive to Marvel

[hippie_hunter]

1. What Titans East thing?
Titans East will be a group of Titans that operate in the east coast of the United States, most likely in New York City compared to Titans West (the current group of Titans) which operates in San Fransisco

2. Whats this thing with Zattara, that Kid Devil mentioned?
Unknown right now.

[The Ether]

Bart is most CETAINLY not the new flash, this has never been confirmed. We have to wait till june to find that out!
I keep feeling Wally will come back nowhere and will bring the speedforce with him and thus making him the flash again.

[The Ether]

stop with the chuck austen bashing, hes better than bendis
I like Bendis.....well just his Daredevil run.

And I never read any of Austen's work so I'm not sure how good he is.

[GoldenAgeHero]

I keep feeling Wally will come back nowhere and will bring the speedforce with him and thus making him the flash again.


nah they'll definitely replace him.

[Purple Man]

Did someone say Chuck Austen is better than Bendis?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

Tell me another one Mr.Comedy.

I'm sure we'll see Wally again, Barry as well.

[TheCorpulent1]

Strange though it may be, I think Austen might actually have a better handle on pacing a superhero action comic better than Bendis. Bendis is a much better writer overall but, seriously, his superhero work is awful. That's just my opinion on the matter, though.

[GoldenAgeHero]

yeah, he does suck at the superhero books, daredevil is his only good run,i think he needs to go over to dc...........and write a question bookor some shnit!

[Hellstormer]

I wanna see Jay Garrick get de-aged to a teen like The Atom so he can be a titan :)

[The Ether]

I don't mind seeing Bendis try a Nightwing or Batman run. But yeah Question would be nice.

[sinewave]

I wanna see Jay Garrick get de-aged to a teen like The Atom so he can be a titan :)

when did the atom get de-aged to a teen?

[Green Lantern]

During the Jurgens Era TT in the mid/late 90s.

[Nightwing]

I wanna see Jay Garrick get de-aged to a teen like The Atom so he can be a titan :)

In Outsiders #36, there's a speedster revealed to be a young/ rejuvenated Jay Garrick. But considering he's already appeared as his current age in both JSA and The Flash preview, it's probably a clone.

[TheCorpulent1]

when did the atom get de-aged to a teen?
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/86230802364.4.GIF

That young Atom with the goofy vest is Ray Palmer.

[GoldenAgeHero]

In Outsiders #36, there's a speedster revealed to be a young/ rejuvenated Jay Garrick. But considering he's already appeared as his current age in both JSA and The Flash preview, it's probably a clone.

that could explain where all the technology and genetic scientist went(see TT#35)

[yenaled]

I love the fact that when Ray got de-aged he had to put on a jacket to be hip and trendy... or maybe he just felt the cold more.

[Elongated Man]

I still want to know more about Zatara, dammit. :(

[TheCorpulent1]

I love the fact that when Ray got de-aged he had to put on a jacket to be hip and trendy... or maybe he just felt the cold more.
It's because he opened the skullcap. His old costume kept him nice and toasty because his body heat was kept in by the skullcap. The new one's got the top of his head all exposed. Heat loss galore!

[Nightwing]

that could explain where all the technology and genetic scientist went(see TT#35)

Exactly.

[TheCorpulent1]

What, they were all holed up, working on that one clone? The DC scientists used to be able to pump clones out like... well, like a dumb whore pumps out babies.

[Nightwing]

Robin mentions that all the world's top scientists disappeared during the missing year....

[TheCorpulent1]

I know that, but assuming they've all gone to create that one clone seems very far-fetched to me. I think it's more likely that either something or someone targeted them specifically and took them out of play, or they've all gone to work on something together that'll be ungodly powerful--more powerful than just one simple clone.

Although, come to think of it, wouldn't it be great if Lex were so broken up about the death of his "son" that he did basically the same thing as Robin, only he abducted the leading minds in cloning and genetic research and made them work towards it?

[GoldenAgeHero]

nah history repeating itself sucks arse, and lex said for them to move on pass superman and forget everything about him, ill doubt he'll go thru the trouble again. I dont know how the jay garrick connection is far-fetched....

[Nightwing]

I know that, but assuming they've all gone to create that one clone seems very far-fetched to me. I think it's more likely that either something or someone targeted them specifically and took them out of play, or they've all gone to work on something together that'll be ungodly powerful--more powerful than just one simple clone.

What if it's actually The Brotherhood themselves, who've done that? In #35 Robin mentions the scientist's disappearence right AFTER she talks about the Brotherhood raiding the genetic research facilities, it'd be great if it's actually them who've planned the capturing and see it explained in 52. I think the reason being for them created that one clone, was because of the fact that no one was able to. After Robin explains what happend during the missing year, he says "The Brotherhood is scrambling to figure it out." It's possible that it took them so long to "figure it out," that when they finally do is when they end up creating the clone of Jay Garrick. Which I'm curious as to why they chose him in the first place.

Ironic how Robin mentions the cloning process to Cyborg and Wondergirl, when in reality he's secretly trying to clone Superboy.

For those who've read the latest Outsiders issue.
Did anoyone else like how the clone of Jay ended up defeating everyone around him, up until Owen (Captain Boomerang) was the only one capable of knocking him out?

I think that issue was the best of OYL thus far.

[TheCorpulent1]

nah history repeating itself sucks arse, and lex said for them to move on pass superman and forget everything about him, ill doubt he'll go thru the trouble again. I dont know how the jay garrick connection is far-fetched....
Your opinion on anything Conner-related, much like your opinion on anything anything-related, doesn't count. :p

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

What if it's actually The Brotherhood themselves, who've done that? In #35 Robin mentions the scientist's disappearence right AFTER she talks about the Brotherhood raiding the genetic research facilities, it'd be great if it's actually them who've planned the capturing and see it explained in 52. I think the reason being for them created that one clone, was because of the fact that no one was able to. After Robin explains what happend during the missing year, he says "The Brotherhood is scrambling to figure it out." It's possible that it took them so long to "figure it out," that when they finally do is when they end up creating the clone of Jay Garrick. Which I'm curious as to why they chose him in the first place.

I like this theory, would be cool if it happens. 52 is so going to kickass, dammit!

[yenaled]

On another note, I think Kid Devil is cool as a cucumber and I hope he stays around for a long time.

[LadyVader]

Yes, they sure made him cute and loveable. :) Kinda like Bart used to be... :(

[Nightwing]

I like this theory, would be cool if it happens. 52 is so going to kickass, dammit!

If being the keyword.

[Teen Lantern]

bring on teen lantern!

[hippie_hunter]

bring on teen lantern!

Superfriends has proven that Green Lantern should never have a sidekick :o

[Anubis]

Now if some kid was running around with similar powers, kinda like how Alan Scott is doing things, and had nothing to do with the actual Lanterns, then I suppose that would be alright. The actual job of GL doesn't lend itself well to having a sidekick. It's like if a cop had a sidekick. Just doesn't fit.

[drastic_quench]

Although Teen Lantern is a nice play on Green Lantern, I prefer the rhyming Teen Green. Both are cool though.

Teen Green and Blue Beetle III need to team-up and found an ultra-exclusive club made up of teenage boys who stumble upon powerful artifacts.

[jaydawg]

Pff... Wally rocked when he was Kid Lantern.

[batnkevlar]

Pff... Wally rocked when he was Kid Lantern.

Yes, he did... have you read it Brave and the Bold?

Oh, so that black suited speedster is Jay? or a young clone of him?

[GoldenAgeHero]

clone

[jaydawg]

Yes, he did... have you read it Brave and the Bold?

Oh, so that black suited speedster is Jay? or a young clone of him?
Yup. Favorite issue of that mini.

[Hellstormer]

could someone post a pic of this clone?

[sinewave]

we don't even know for sure that it is a clone.

[sinewave]

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/86230802364.4.GIF

That young Atom with the goofy vest is Ray Palmer.

when did that come out? i've never heard of most of those heroes.

[Anubis]

could someone post a pic of this clone?


http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5233_400x600.jpg

[Anubis]

when did that come out? i've never heard of most of those heroes.

If you recall, Risk got his arm ripped off by Superboy Prime.

[sinewave]

What if it's actually The Brotherhood themselves, who've done that? In #35 Robin mentions the scientist's disappearence right AFTER she talks about the Brotherhood raiding the genetic research facilities, it'd be great if it's actually them who've planned the capturing and see it explained in 52. I think the reason being for them created that one clone, was because of the fact that no one was able to. After Robin explains what happend during the missing year, he says "The Brotherhood is scrambling to figure it out." It's possible that it took them so long to "figure it out," that when they finally do is when they end up creating the clone of Jay Garrick. Which I'm curious as to why they chose him in the first place.

Ironic how Robin mentions the cloning process to Cyborg and Wondergirl, when in reality he's secretly trying to clone Superboy.

For those who've read the latest Outsiders issue.
Did anoyone else like how the clone of Jay ended up defeating everyone around him, up until Owen (Captain Boomerang) was the only one capable of knocking him out?

I think that issue was the best of OYL thus far.

i agree. great action, but i wish they would have shown a little bit of that fight between nightwing those 40-something guards. man, grace took a serious beating!

[sinewave]

If you recall, Risk got his arm ripped off by Superboy Prime.

ohhhhh, that's right. and i think i've heard or argent. still, when and how did ray become a teen again?

[Anubis]

He got deaged during Zero Hour by Extant or Hal I think. One of the two. Anyway, he was a teenager again, so he joined the titans.

[The Flash!]

we don't even know for sure that it is a clone.

I think it is, I mean how else could there be a younger Jay like that?

[Anubis]

It's definatly a Clone because as you have seen in the preview for Flash, he's still old. Plus he's old over in JSA.

[sinewave]

He got deaged during Zero Hour by Extant or Hal I think. One of the two. Anyway, he was a teenager again, so he joined the titans.

but he's back to his original age now, right? he was in identity crisis at least.

[sinewave]

It's definatly a Clone because as you have seen in the preview for Flash, he's still old. Plus he's old over in JSA.

maybe that's just a continuity flub or jay from an alternate reality or from the past?

[Anubis]

That's a possiblity. But, there are a ton of missing cloning specialists,(Mentioned in Teen Titans) Where are these specialists? maybe somewhere cranking out clones of heros and selling them to countrys that want a Person of Mass Destruction. Just a theory.

[The Flash!]

but he's back to his original age now, right? he was in identity crisis at least.

Yep!

[sinewave]

That's a possiblity. But, there are a ton of missing cloning specialists,(Mentioned in Teen Titans) Where are these specialists? maybe somewhere cranking out clones of heros and selling them to countrys that want a Person of Mass Destruction. Just a theory.

hmmm, i hadn't thought of that. it's good theory. i guess it's just wishful thinking on my part that jay will take over as the main flash because i prefer him to bart. i would miss him in the jsa, though.

[sinewave]

Yep!

okay. for a second there i was really confused. thanks.

[The Flash!]

No prob.

[Anubis]

Couldn't tell you how he got back to his true age though.

[GoldenAgeHero]

i was just thinking, that bart is going to return to the teen titans and someone else will take up the mantle of the flash. each team has/needs to have a speedster. jay garrick JSA, flash JLA, cap boomerrang outsiders, kid flash TT. thats been a constant theme for a long time.

[TheCorpulent1]

Boomerang doesn't seem to have any super-speed anymore beyond being able to hit fast-moving targets. He didn't use any super-speed against the speedster in Outsiders.

Anyway, if the speedsters get some other means of returning to their normal speeds in the absence of the Speed Force, I could see Bart pulling double-duty as the Flash on both the Titans and the JLA. Wally did it with the JLA and the JLE, after all.

[Nightwing]

i agree. great action, but i wish they would have shown a little bit of that fight between nightwing those 40-something guards. man, grace took a serious beating!

Indeed, it was a great issue. The best for Outsiders OYL atleast...

Boomerang doesn't seem to have any super-speed anymore beyond being able to hit fast-moving targets. He didn't use any super-speed against the speedster in Outsiders.


That's the thing, he doesn't. He only has what he calls "speed burts," which allows him to maintain it for a short period of time.

[Hellstormer]

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/5233_400x600.jpg
That's Jay? You can't even see his face or do they show it on the inside?

[BrianWilly]

They show it on the inside, at the very end. No one recognized him at first since it was a younger version of him.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's the thing, he doesn't. He only has what he calls "speed burts," which allows him to maintain it for a short period of time.
He doesn't even seem to have his bursts anymore. Those involved him moving at super-speed, and it looked like that speed came from the Speed Force. He didn't move at super-speed at all in Outsiders, which, when you consider the fact that he was fighting a speedster and moving at super-speed would've helped immensely, leads me to believe that he's lost that particular power. Looks like he's just a crack shot now.

[sinewave]

He doesn't even seem to have his bursts anymore. Those involved him moving at super-speed, and it looked like that speed came from the Speed Force. He didn't move at super-speed at all in Outsiders, which, when you consider the fact that he was fighting a speedster and moving at super-speed would've helped immensely, leads me to believe that he's lost that particular power. Looks like he's just a crack shot now.

but he does reference his speed in that issue. right before he pegs the speedster with boomerangs he says "everyone thinks i've got speed running through me." i think he's referring to how much faster the other speedster is compared to him as a way of pumping himself up for the upcoming challenge. just a thought.

[TheCorpulent1]

It depends on who his mom is, I guess. He could have metahuman super-speed like Jay. Which would still suck, since it's not the cool, physics-defying kind.

[sinewave]

It depends on who his mom is, I guess. He could have metahuman super-speed like Jay. Which would still suck, since it's not the cool, physics-defying kind.

i htought they said who his mom is in a comic a few months ago? if memory serves me correctly his mom was related to one of the zooms.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't remember there ever being a solid answer. I think the Golden Glider was suggested, but there was a lot of doubt.

[Nightwing]

I don't remember there ever being a solid answer. I think the Golden Glider was suggested, but there was a lot of doubt.

She was, but then later was revealed not to be his mother. Meloni Thawne is believed to be, however.

[yenaled]

Yeah it was Rogue War, Boomer was in the future with Meloni.

Then at the end Ashley Zoloman wrote Meloni Thorne as mother on Boomerang Jr.'s police file.

[sinewave]

Yeah it was Rouge War, Boomer was in the future with Meloni.

Then at the end Ashley Zoloman wrote Meloni Thorne as mother on Boomerang Jr.'s police file.

that's right. i couldn't think of her name.

[yenaled]

Oh BTW; Meloni Thawne is Bart Allen's mother.

And it's not been revealed how Owen and Boomer came back from the future.

[Hellstormer]

I think we're getting a bit off topic

[Mr. Terrific]

Yep Meloni is Owen's mama all right. I looked her up at wikipedia (awesome site) check it out here fellas.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meloni_Thawne


;)

[sinewave]

Oh BTW; Meloni Thawne is Bart Allen's mother.

And it's not been revealed how Owen and Boomer came back from the future.

that's right, i forgot cb2 and bart are half-brothers.

[Mr. Terrific]

I think we're getting a bit off topic

Well to put us back "on topic" I'm loving the way Teen Titans is taking off.

Especially with that Rose naked in Robin's bed scene happening, this books just keeps getting better and better. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[GoldenAgeHero]

that's right, i forgot cb2 and bart are half-brothers.

holy crap, i didnt realise that.woah interesting story arc right there. bart nor CB2 knows this... i can tell bart is gonna stay in the mix as kid flash. geoff johns has a story developed for that.

[cerealkiller182]

I dont like how Cyborg is against having Kid Devil and Ravager on the team? I guess Ravager makes sense, but Kid Devil seems cool.

Plus when the New Teen Titans started it seemed to me that Cyborg wanted to have a very big line-up (almost starting a DC Xavier Manison equivalent) considering all the lockers and his first talk with Mia ("THers a lot of titans out there", or something to that effect).

[Mr. Terrific]

Anyone know if Speedy is coming back?

[Anubis]

I got a feeling that before this arc is over Robin's gonna try and check him. This aint his team anymore. He's been dead to the world for a year, and he needs to realize that the Titans have moved on without him. Hopfully he quits and goes to be in the revamped League. (I hope)

[Anubis]

Anyone know if Speedy is coming back?

Well, she's not dead, so it's possible.

[Mr. Terrific]

I got a feeling that before this arc is over Robin's gonna try and check him. This aint his team anymore. He's been dead to the world for a year, and he needs to realize that the Titans have moved on without him. Hopfully he quits and goes to be in the revamped League. (I hope)

at the end of infinite crisis7, he was one of the faces pictured on some new JLA recruitments. Along with the new Blue Beetle.

[Mr. Terrific]

Well, she's not dead, so it's possible.

hope so.

[TheCorpulent1]

I dont like how Cyborg is against having Kid Devil and Ravager on the team? I guess Ravager makes sense, but Kid Devil seems cool.
I thought Cyborg was uncharacteristically dismissive of them, too. I can understand wanting to get the gang back together, but if they were invited to join and accepted, they're just as much Titans as he was in the original New Teen Titans.

[yenaled]

at the end of infinite crisis7, he was one of the faces pictured on some new JLA recruitments. Along with the new Blue Beetle.

That was pictures of the people missing not recruitments.

I thought Cyborg was uncharacteristically dismissive of them, too. I can understand wanting to get the gang back together, but if they were invited to join and accepted, they're just as much Titans as he was in the original New Teen Titans.

I think it is more he feels like he has no say in anything, like his world has fallen down around him, technically while he was sleeping and he is seemingly unable to do anything about it. So he is taking it out on two people who he doesn't know as team mates or friends.

[Anubis]

We wont know for sure until, when does JLA start? June?

[Mr. Terrific]

That was pictures of the people missing not recruitments.

How could they be missing?

[Anubis]

Because they couldn't find them. If you recall, Beetle leapead forward a whole year after they took down Brother Eye.

[yenaled]

Most of them are the space team who went with Donner and no-one knows where any of them are, space is a big place.

Uncle Sam's body disappeared and Tempest got stepped on but no body has been found.

Blue Beetle just disappeared. in front of the team that took down Brother eye.

[Mr. Terrific]

Thanks guys. :)

I know this isn't the place to talk about it, but is the new Beetle book any good?

[yenaled]

So far, yes.

Feels a lot like Invincible to me.

[Anubis]

Yes, it is pretty good.

[Mr. Terrific]

Thanks again, and cool avatar.

[Anubis]

Thanks.

[Donnie Darko]

So far, yes.

Feels a lot like Invincible to me.

dang, don't say that... I already buy too many comics, I can't pick up Blue Beetle now, too

[Anubis]

Then buy it in trade.

[GoldenAgeHero]

a panel from page 18 of tt 36

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/Confrt.jpg


this ws recently corected by tony, but it was arushed job(for this page that is. he was suupopsed to send it in long agao with the corrections, but he forgot and how to do redraw,ink and sent to thecolorists all in the same day.

[TheCorpulent1]

I know it's unintended, but it really, really looks like Robin's reaching for Beast Boy's junk. :(

[GoldenAgeHero]

his hand looks like it ready to grab something

[Anubis]

See, he is becoming a lot like Bruce now.

[deathshead2]

No wonder he wants the old team back.

[TheCorpulent1]

See, he is becoming a lot like Bruce now.
If he were becoming like Bruce, Gar would be way too old for him. :o

[Fledermaus]

Beast Boy looks like Tom Cruise in that panel.

[Anubis]

That just makes the gay batman joke even funnier.

[spiderbob]

a panel from page 18 of tt 36

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/Confrt.jpg


this ws recently corected by tony, but it was arushed job(for this page that is. he was suupopsed to send it in long agao with the corrections, but he forgot and how to do redraw,ink and sent to thecolorists all in the same day.

I can't tell, is Robin going for/directing his anger at the guy in the wheel chair or the girl. Sorry, don't know the names of the Doom Patrol members.

[Anubis]

Probally going for the Chief (the dude in the Wheel chair.) He can be a pompas ass some times.

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

Beast Boy looks like Tom Cruise in that panel.

LMAO!!!! http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Hellstormer]

I know it's unintended, but it really, really looks like Robin's reaching for Beast Boy's junk. :(
Yea...he does:(

[LadyVader]

^ It's not Robin's fault. BB's new costume tends to draw attention to that particular area.

[sethcohen]

I know it's unintended, but it really, really looks like Robin's reaching for Beast Boy's junk. :(
maybe its a new submission grip he learned while away with bruce and dick for a year ahahahaha

[Dr. Mid-Nite]

^ Lol.....

[sethcohen]

but seriously, what if like tim or batman did that in a fight... just got fed up and just like grabbed a dudes junk... that would seriously put someone down FAST

[Hellstormer]

maybe its a new submission grip he learned while away with bruce and dick for a year ahahahaha
I wonder if that would work on Joker :rolleyes:

[sethcohen]

oprah should have crotch grabbed tom cruise tim drake style when he went all beast boy on her couch

[Mr. Terrific]

Does issues #36 come out on the 26?

[Mogwai]

Does issues #36 come out on the 26?

may 24th, but i bet it gets delayed a week or two.

[GoldenAgeHero]

panel of robin in TT #37 tony described the issue as very emotional.


http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/FACES.0.jpg

[spiderbob]

panel of robin in TT #37 tony described the issue as very emotional.


http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/FACES.0.jpg

Don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm really enjoying the growth and development that Tim Drake has been recieving recently. He's probably my favorite DC character (excluding Batman) and it's nice to see him be given the amount of respect he's been getting as of late.

Pannels look sweet by the way. I wonder if emotional level is brought on by Connor's death/attempted cloning, troubles with the Team, rememberance of his (Tim's) dad, or whatever Bruce has cookin for Robin.

[WonderWoman]

Beautiful panel, I've loving the "One Year Later" process for this book so far. And can't wait for #37. Especially Wonder Girl. :)

[GoldenAgeHero]

welcome tot he hype wonder woman.

[The Ether]

out of all the characters. It seems that Wonder Girl and Robin has been the most developed in OYL. Best thing about it is that I haven't seen anyone complain about it. I don't know about Bart except that he's a few years older than Tim and Cassie now, maybe while learn more about him in the new flash series.

[Nightwing]

out of all the characters. It seems that Wonder Girl and Robin has been the most developed in OYL. Best thing about it is that I haven't seen anyone complain about it. I don't know about Bart except that he's a few years older than Tim and Cassie now, maybe while learn more about him in the new flash series.

As of now, I think Bart is around 19 to his 20's...

[LadyVader]

Oh Jesus. I just got thinking all the stuff Drake has been through lately. Makes me so sad. :(

[sethcohen]

As of now, I think Bart is around 19 to his 20's...

i agree... probably about 19... im looking forward to see him interacting with his friends... hes gone from being the youngest in the group to being one of the oldest and it will be fun to see them get back together

[Nightwing]

i agree... probably about 19... im looking forward to see him interacting with his friends... hes gone from being the youngest in the group to being one of the oldest and it will be fun to see them get back together

There are chances that Geoff will be bringing him back to the Titans, we'll soon find out if he is or isn't the new Flash soon. But I would like to see him back with Tim, Cassie, and the others, he was one of the members who really made the book worth reading. Especially during the Young Justice days.

[Purple Man]

I really don't know if Bart will join the Titans again.

My money would probably be on one or both of Wallys' twins joining the team.

[GoldenAgeHero]

wally's twins arent even teenagers yet. theyreprobably 4-5 years old.

[Nightwing]

My money would probably be on one or both of Wallys' twins joining the team.

I doubt that would happen, they're still children. Not to mention still missing in that unknown dimension along with Linda since the Crisis. In 52, Bart refers to them as "Just taking some time away."

[Harlekin]

I don't know, I guess I wouldn't mind Bart remaining powerless. On the other hand, the Speed Force is gonna return anyway. Considering the Titans of Tomorrow arc shows a Bart with Speed Force intact...

[sethcohen]

I don't know, I guess I wouldn't mind Bart remaining powerless. On the other hand, the Speed Force is gonna return anyway. Considering the Titans of Tomorrow arc shows a Bart with Speed Force intact...
But thats just a possible future... it doesnt mean it will come to pass... if it had, the titans would have been broken up, allowing SB-P to defeat all the heavy hitters... bart wouldnt have been there to push him into the speed force so the speed force would never have been destroyed...

[GoldenAgeHero]

geoff said some of the stuff we saw in tomorrow will happen. time well tell.

[Harlekin]

But thats just a possible future... it doesnt mean it will come to pass... if it had, the titans would have been broken up, allowing SB-P to defeat all the heavy hitters... bart wouldnt have been there to push him into the speed force so the speed force would never have been destroyed...
Interesting theory, but I'm pretty sure Bart would've done so nonetheless. Time will tell, I guess.

[twylight]

So Bart aged didn't he?

And no one seems to feel all weird about that, within the comics anyway. That feels odd...

He's uber cute though. :up:

[LadyVader]

He was always cute. The only thing that has changed is that now we can say that without feeling like perverts... :D

[twylight]

He was always cute. The only thing that has changed is that now we can say that without feeling like perverts... :D


That must be why I have this feeling of surrealness about it. ;)

[Tropico]

wally's twins arent even teenagers yet. theyreprobably 4-5 years old.

Mas y Menos from the Animated TT. :p:D

[jaydawg]

They were the worst twins in comic book history since the Wonder Twins.

[Tropico]

They were the worst twins in comic book history since the Wonder Twins.

Anyone who can curse in Spanish and gets through the censors is golden in my book. Why are they the worst?

[Nightwing]

geoff said some of the stuff we saw in tomorrow will happen. time well tell.

No, what he meant by that was some of the characters on the team will be like their Titans Tomorrow counterparts. Like Rose currently becoming a Titan, or Robin being close to Batman in parts of building his own cave/lab underneath the Tower, and changing his suit.

[WonderWoman]

welcome tot he hype wonder woman.

Aww, thanks for the welcoming GoldenAgeHero. :)

And I agree with Batman on Bart's age. :O

[TheCorpulent1]

wally's twins arent even teenagers yet. theyreprobably 4-5 years old.
Uh... wouldn't they be one year old? Since they were born before OYL and all? :o

[BrianWilly]

If they spent the same amount of years in dimensionexmachina that Bart did, they'd have to be at least three or four years older. I don't remember the line exactly and I don't have the comic in front of me, but didn't Bart mention in 52 that they were actually talking now?

[Nightwing]

If they spent the same amount of years in dimensionexmachina that Bart did, they'd have to be at least three or four years older. I don't remember the line exactly and I don't have the comic in front of me, but didn't Bart mention in 52 that they were actually talking now?

Along with the OYL process, that'd make them around 9 or 10 years of age. Yes, I mentioned it before. Bart tells the other heroes with him that Wally and his family are "just taking some time away."

[TheCorpulent1]

If they spent the same amount of years in dimensionexmachina that Bart did, they'd have to be at least three or four years older. I don't remember the line exactly and I don't have the comic in front of me, but didn't Bart mention in 52 that they were actually talking now?
Kids can learn to talk at just over a year. Bart said Wally, Linda, and the twins were somewhere else, and the implication I got was that they hadn't gone to the Speed Force, they'd just been shunted off to some other location. With the Speed Force gone, Wally would've had no powers and been useless anyway, so it's not a stretch to imagine he just stayed with Linda and the kids and watched the other heroes handle the Crisis. Granted, that's a lot of speculation on my part, but nothing concrete is stated in the comics so it's just as much speculation to believe that they'd have gone through the same process as Bart and aged several years.

[Anubis]

Bart was in the Speed force.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yes, he was. Wally and his family, by all indications, were not.

[BrianWilly]

But Bart was obviously with them at some point or other, or else he wouldn't have any idea just how they were doing.

[Anubis]

Oh, I thought you said Bart and Wally and his family. My bad. I'm....uh...gonna go over here now. :o

[TheCorpulent1]

But Bart was obviously with them at some point or other, or else he wouldn't have any idea just how they were doing.
Barry was aware of things in the world without leaving the Speed Force.

[BrianWilly]

Corp, Bart mentioned that the twins were talking at the beginning of 52, not at the beginning of OYL. A chronological year hadn't passed in the DCU yet when Bart made his update on the West family, only a few days tops had passed since IC#4 where the West family disappeared and IC#5 where Bart as an adult and Superboy-Prime came back, and sometime during then Bart found out that the twins had already begun to talk. They were obviously in some dimension where time passes much faster, because there's no way that newborn twins are going to start talking at you over the course of a few days.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, I thought Bart mentioned the twins were talking in an OYL title. Bah, increased aging is lame. Bart's only supposed to be like 5 or 10 himself. :o

[Tropico]

Kids can learn to talk at just over a year. Bart said Wally, Linda, and the twins were somewhere else, and the implication I got was that they hadn't gone to the Speed Force, they'd just been shunted off to some other location. With the Speed Force gone, Wally would've had no powers and been useless anyway, so it's not a stretch to imagine he just stayed with Linda and the kids and watched the other heroes handle the Crisis. Granted, that's a lot of speculation on my part, but nothing concrete is stated in the comics so it's just as much speculation to believe that they'd have gone through the same process as Bart and aged several years.

Cancun. They went on a vacation and stayed there. That's why the twins will speak Spanish and will become Mas y Menos!:p:D

[TheCorpulent1]

Ew, Mas y Menos are annoying. :(

[rnewbz]

Don't know if these pics have been seen, but they're new to me.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/TT35.20.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/TT35.22.jpg

[ToddIsDead]

That issue hs been out...

We've all read it.

[Hellstormer]

Cancun. They went on a vacation and stayed there. That's why the twins will speak Spanish and will become Mas y Menos!:p:D
Hply crap that'd be cool, give them a cooler costume and correct dental care.

[Tropico]

Ew, Mas y Menos are annoying. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/mas-y-menos.jpg

And Beast Boy isn't? :rolleyes:

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't mind if Beast Boy fell in a hole and died, either.

[Tropico]

It would most likely be a hole filled with the Lazarus concoction and bring him back to life.:(

[Mogwai]

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5497/1066/1600/TTCvr39.small.jpg
cover to #39

[cerealkiller182]

Is that the infamous Zatara?

[Mogwai]

Is that the infamous Zatara?

yup. i guess they find him and raven in tokyo.

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't say I'm a big fan of Raven's new costume. I like the gloves, but that's about it.

[LadyVader]

Phew. Kid Devil makes it. :)
Aw hell, what is it with female superheroes and that bird covering their boobs? Wonder Girl has basically the same pattern.

[Mogwai]

Phew. Kid Devil makes it. :)
Aw hell, what is it with female superheroes and that bird covering their boobs? Wonder Girl has basically the same pattern.

Phoenix too.. I don't care for Raven's new costume at all.

[TheCorpulent1]

That's true, actually. Hippolyta had a bird over her boobs while she was Wonder Woman. Black Canary had a bird over her boobs during her time on the Giffen Justice League, too. Firehawk's got one. Damn, there really are a lot of chicks with that motif.