Final Issue of X-Men: Genesis

[Gambit aka remy]

"X-MEN: DEADLY GENESIS #6 (of 6)

Written by ED BRUBAKER
Penciled by TREVOR HAIRSINE
Inked by SCOTT HANNA

Cover by MARK SILVESTRI
The extra-length finale of this best-selling shocker! All the secrets are revealed -- Who is the third Summers brother and what happened to him? What really happened on Krakoa all those long years ago? And why has Xavier been keeping it to himself for so long? All this, and the all-out battle between the X-Men and their newest, deadliest foe, and a conclusion that will set-up events that rock the X-universe for years to come—starting when Ed Brubaker jumps to UNCANNY X-MEN this July!
40 PGS./Rated T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP ...$3.50"

:) This is SO awesome!!! We finally get to find out who the thrid Summers brother is!!! i hope its gambit........

Anyway, if you dont believe me then click on this link: http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/current/showquestion.asp?faq=6&fldAuto=24 and go down until you find the X-men Section & its at the bottom of the section.

[Specter313]

I think it's pretty clear that the Third Summers Brother is supposed to be the bad guy that we're seeing in the series.

[cookiva]

Ya, Its kinda been hinting that since the beginning....yo

[Sub-Zero]

the cover to dg#6 is pretty interesting.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

The cover to Astonishing #14 is interesting also.

[mightiest_mortal]

Yes it is, it's peaked my interest in the title again after the danger arc, which i found a bit disapointing.

[OutcryX]

The cover to Astonishing #14 is interesting also.

It is quite interesting indeed.....
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr06/ASTXM014_COV_CMYK.jpg

So every woman that Cyclops truly loves....Wolverine must have....he can have Emma tho.

[usagicassidy]

I think what's more interesting is this...

"starting when Ed Brubaker jumps to UNCANNY X-MEN this July!"

Does that mean no more Claremont?!

[GreatWhiteWhale]

It's being discussed in the thread that says Uncanny X-Men: Claremont out? Brubaker in? Or something like that. The short answer is 'Yes, Claremont is not writing Uncanny X-Men any more'.

So, big things afoot for X-Men fans in april:
Crazy Emma in Astonishing.
Crazy Jean in Ultimate.
Crazy Quicksilver in Son of M
Crazy Apocalypse in X-Men and Cable Deadpool
Crazy Jamie Bradock in Uncanny X-Men
Crazy Refugees in The 198
Crazy Villain, Graves and the Third Summer's Brother in Deadly Genesis
And Wolverine being all round silent and broody, with a hint of Craziness.

[usagicassidy]

yeah...i realized that right after i posted...my bad

[KingOfDreams]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr06/ASTXM014_COV_CMYK.jpg


That just, I don't know, doesn't seem right to me.

[Essex]

I hope that cover means that Whedon will be expanding on Wolverine's feelings for Emma that were first brought up in Morrison's run, and not just one of those shocking covers that don't actually represent the story.

[Sean Madrox]

Yeah I agree with you Essex, well partially since I didn't read the Morrison's run. I'm waiting for my copies of Deadly Gensis to arrive so that I could have a look at what I'm missing.

[Specter313]

the cover to dg#6 is pretty interesting.

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr06/XDEADLYG006_COV.jpg

I'm betting that the four sticks represent the four people shadowed here:

http://www.mutanthigh.com/coppermine/albums/ls/deadlygenesis4.jpg

Which is really making me stick to my theory that those four characters were the first team to be sent to Krakoa to rescue the original X-Men, but they were killed instead. Whether they end up dead again, I really doubt. Brubaker said in an interview that he hopes the main villain stays around for a long time. And to the identites of these mystery people, I think they're the ones who we've seen in the back up stories so far. Especially the character on the right, who's head seems slightly oddly shaped much like the Darwin character who came up in the last back story in issue 2. And Petra, from issue 1, is the character next to the main bad guy with his costume showing.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Yes but who was the WOMAN coming to collect Darwin at the end of Issue #2?


Cough *moira* cough

[Specter313]

Yes but who was the WOMAN coming to collect Darwin at the end of Issue #2?


Cough *moira* cough

Yep, and that's why I think she recorded that really ticked off message, because Xavier recruited Darwin against her will, and basically got him killed.

[GyLocke]

It is quite interesting indeed.....
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr06/ASTXM014_COV_CMYK.jpg

So every woman that Cyclops truly loves....Wolverine must have....he can have Emma tho.

I think someone is messing with Emma`s mind, and she`s messing with Logans.

See all the red light there? Emma and Logan clearly don`t. They should, because that`s the biggest freaking optic blast you`ve ever seen coming their way. :)

[Sub-Zero]

Which is really making me stick to my theory that those four characters were the first team to be sent to Krakoa to rescue the original X-Men, but they were killed instead. Whether they end up dead again, I really doubt. Brubaker said in an interview that he hopes the main villain stays around for a long time. And to the identites of these mystery people, I think they're the ones who we've seen in the back up stories so far. Especially the character on the right, who's head seems slightly oddly shaped much like the Darwin character who came up in the last back story in issue 2. And Petra, from issue 1, is the character next to the main bad guy with his costume showing.


i agree. i also think that xavier sent cyclops to lead them and then mind wiped him so that he wouldn't remember his second failure as a leader.

[JustABill]

I thought Moira was dead?

[usagicassidy]

Wow...this looks like it could be really, really interesting!

[JustABill]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr06/ASTXM014_COV_CMYK.jpg


My god, Marvel has finally done it. They've caved in on themselves and decided to put their two cash cows together to make cash cow babies.

[ShadowBoxing]

The guy shroaded in complete darkness (the skinny one) seems to me to be Changling

[Essex]

My god, Marvel has finally done it. They've caved in on themselves and decided to put their two cash cows together to make cash cow babies.

Spider-Man and Logan are hooking up?? Oh...wait, I see. Huh? I must have missed the time where Emma became a bankable character...I adore Emma, but she is by no means a cash cow.

[Specter313]

I thought Moira was dead?

She is.

[Darkdd]

Spider-Man and Logan are hooking up?? Oh...wait, I see. Huh? I must have missed the time where Emma became a bankable character...I adore Emma, but she is by no means a cash cow.

She is fast becoming one because 3 of my jock friends bought comic books soley because of what she was wearing.The only thing is that they always think she has ice powers.

[GyLocke]

I just hope Cyce manages to come out with some dignity from this situation. I mean I could forgive a supposed "honorable friend/teammate" to hit on one of my girls.
When he does it with my new one, I wouldn`t stop, till the guy lives.

Maybe Logan got so owned by a little girl in Runaways, he needs this ego trip, stealing poor Scott`s girlfriend again.

[The Englishman]

She is fast becoming one because 3 of my jock friends bought comic books soley because of what she was wearing.The only thing is that they always think she has ice powers.

Well that's because they are ****ing Idiot's!!!!:cool: ;)

[thor87]

i hope the third summers brother isnt someone stupid, i hope that they make him someone that we havent seen in a really long time or not seen at all, ive never read the first x-men when they went to kroaka but it seems to me that if the third summers brother was there, hes somebody weve never heard about

[Caliber]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Apr06/ASTXM014_COV_CMYK.jpg


My god, Marvel has finally done it. They've caved in on themselves and decided to put their two cash cows together to make cash cow babies.

LOL I never expected to read this here.

[Darkdd]

Well that's because they are ****ing Idiot's!!!!:cool: ;)

Actually It was because of Greg Horn:o :D

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

See all the red light there? Emma and Logan clearly don`t. They should, because that`s the biggest freaking optic blast you`ve ever seen coming their way. :)
Freakin' hilarious!

And the third Summers brother is..... Luke Cage!!:up: :up:

Really! Needless to say, Bendis talked Brubaker into that one.
:doom:

[Sub-Zero]

what if the third summers brother was Krakoa? not the 2nd team inside the island, but the living island itself. would that be a complete slap in the face to diehard fans?

[GreatWhiteWhale]

what if the third summers brother was Krakoa? not the 2nd team inside the island, but the living island itself. would that be a complete slap in the face to diehard fans?

Yeah...

No.

P.S I'm thinking Havoks gonna die.

[Generation Lee]

Yeah...

No.

P.S I'm thinking Havoks gonna die.

Please don't get my hopes up. :)

[Sub-Zero]

well havok hasn't really done much since mutant x, i haven't read an x-men comic in a while.

[The Infernal]

Spider-Man and Logan are hooking up?? Oh...wait, I see. Huh? I must have missed the time where Emma became a bankable character...I adore Emma, but she is by no means a cash cow.

Exactly. The only reason she is getting more coverage is that she has to fulfull Jean's role while she's gone.

She is fast becoming one because 3 of my jock friends bought comic books soley becaue of what she was wearing. The only thing is that they always thinks she has ice powers

Hardly a validating statement. That was really weak. 3 jocks does not mean anything. Not too mention that you just pointed out the obvious reason for why they bought it and the fact that they probably haven't read X-men for.... I duno... a few years.

Though Emma is popular to an extent it is largely based on the fact that A: she looks like prostitute and B: she is a hate figure for many fans. Neither of which could take her near Wolverine's level. You've still Cyclops, Colussus, Kitty Pryde and a whole ton of more recognisable and classic mutants before you get to her.

[GambitXremy]

did any one get issue 3 today and if so what happens?

[GambitXremy]

go to that link and you can see there faces on issus 4

[GambitXremy]

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=16989

[Archangel]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0601/25/xmendeadly4.jpg

[bored]

I feel as if I should recognize them, but I don't.

[Essex]

I feel as if I should recognize them, but I don't.

The two women and weird looking dude are the characters featured in the Deadly Genesis back-up stories.

[GambitXremy]

did any of u guys read issuse 3 yet

[KingOfDreams]

did any of u guys read issuse 3 yet

I did.

[GambitXremy]

what happens

[GambitXremy]

thanx

[KingOfDreams]

Sure. No problem.

[usagicassidy]

That girl looks like M. Or maybe I just want it to be M.

[KingOfDreams]

I don't think it's M. You're refering to the girl in the back on the cover there, right? Yeah, I think all 4 or them are dead. Or rather, 3 of them...because that one dude looks like the guy that's menacing Cyclops and Marvel Girl right now.

[ShadowBoxing]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0601/25/xmendeadly4.jpgDear lord I was right the guy was Changling...or Morph

[Essex]

Dear lord I was right the guy was Changling...or Morph

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's Changeling. I figure it's the kid from the backup story in Deadly Genesis #2. He does kind of look like Morph from AoA, but 616 Changeling had caucasian skin. Sure he's a shape-shifter, but I don't see a reason for him to shift to that form.

The two girls are from the backups, so it only makes sense.

[ShadowBoxing]

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's Changeling. I figure it's the kid from the backup story in Deadly Genesis #2. He does kind of look like Morph from AoA, but 616 Changeling had caucasian skin. Sure he's a shape-shifter, but I don't see a reason for him to shift to that form.

The two girls are from the backups, so it only makes sense.I just read the backups...yeah you are right...I just skipped those totally:(

[GambitXremy]

thats not morph

[sunseton32]

I haven't read three yet, but if whoever said it is right and it is about Xavier erasing Cyke's memory than I have somewhere between three and four words for you.

IDENTITY.

CRISIS.

RIP-OFF.

I mean seriously. When is Marvel gonna realize that most of their stories are OLD. Instead, they should do what Geoff Johns does and take nice, friendly, do-gooder benevolent characters from the 1980s and make them vindictive, evil, and hellbent on revenge. That is, if he hadn't done it first. (And by first, I mean recently first.)

[GambitXremy]

i like the story so fa and issue 4 were going to find out that the bad guys the third summers brother

[squeekness]

I liked issue three of this very intense series. I have no clue who the bad guy is but I'm itching to find out. It's been a while since I've been excited about a mini, they usually poop out on me pretty quick, but this I like. The art is really amazing too. Overall a good job so far.

[Abaddon]

I should pick this up,though I hate them having to drag Xavier through the muck once again.:rolleyes:

[Specter313]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0601/25/xmendeadly4.jpg

Well, anyone wondering their names, left to right they are:

?(third summers brother), Sway, Petra, Darwin

[cookiva]

Im glad that the 3rd Summers Brother isnt just Gambit....really glad...

[KingOfDreams]

The art is really amazing too.

You think so? I'm not digging it. Everybody's too skinny...especially The Beast. And Kitty looked downright ugly in the first issue. I wish Silvestri did the interiors as well as the covers.

[Abaddon]

Why didnt Xavier mind-wipe the team when Thunderbird died?:o

[cookiva]

Huh?

I love the art as well! Im looking, and Shadowcat looks weird in one shot. A ton of comics, no matter the character, has someone who will look wierd....

[Specter313]

Why didnt Xavier mind-wipe the team when Thunderbird died?:o

Because having just one member die rather than a whole team probably wouldn't be enough to make everyone want to stay away from him.

[Abaddon]

If Xavier supposedly pulled a mind-wiped after the original second team failed,why didnt he erase everyones memory of Thunderbird when he perished an issue after the second second team was formed.:confused:

[cookiva]

If Xavier supposedly pulled a mind-wiped after the original second team failed,why didnt he erase everyones memory of Thunderbird when he perished an issue after the second second team was formed.:confused:


....headache?

[Abaddon]

Because having just one member die rather than a whole team probably wouldn't be enough to make everyone want to stay away from him.


How is he responsible for what happened?

[Abaddon]

....headache?


I'm just hoping it made as much sense as it did in my head.

[cookiva]

I'm just hoping it made as much sense as it did in my head.

Good, cuz it made none in my head...

[Abaddon]

thats your own fault.:p

[cookiva]

thats your own fault.:p

Im not saying its a bad thing. I cant sleep, worked for a long time today, had class, have class tomorrow first thing in the morning, and have my chem lab tomorrow....

Im on a sort of natural high right now....

that, and the beer in my hand helps me out alot...

[Abaddon]

Again,its your fault.:o

[Specter313]

How is he responsible for what happened?

That's probably what we've yet to find out.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

I know this is really picky,

but given these guys were meant to be pre-storm, dazzler, wolverine, nightcrawler, sprite, collosus etc etc

Does anyone think there costumes are, well, a little too modern? Well at least, to simple and not funny retro looking?

[squeekness]

You think so? I'm not digging it. Everybody's too skinny...especially The Beast. And Kitty looked downright ugly in the first issue. I wish Silvestri did the interiors as well as the covers.Ah...if we could only have what we want in life. Silvestri is a fave of mine and yeah, he would make the book even better but alas...he's off doing that Hunter Killer thing..:)

[Essex]

I know this is really picky,

but given these guys were meant to be pre-storm, dazzler, wolverine, nightcrawler, sprite, collosus etc etc

Does anyone think there costumes are, well, a little too modern? Well at least, to simple and not funny retro looking?

I don't see how they're any more modern-looking than the second costumes the originals got...

[ghost113]

Is there going to be a tpb of this or should i just go and get them as they are?

[SMroxs]

After reading issue three, I admit I didn't see this coming. I was prepared to accept that there might've been another new X-Men on the Krakoa mission who died rescuing the original X-Men... but an entire team who died? Wow. That's pretty heavy. I wonder why these students were put in Moira's care instead of going to the Mansion?

I was hoping Banshee's death would just be some sort of illusion, but it looks like he's really dead. That's a shame.

[Doc Destruction]

Sigh.

Writers just CANNOT stop shoehorning stories into an already thick and solid history. Why not just take these 4 new characters and move FORWARD in time with their stories?

[ghost113]

I was thinking someone should write a what if storyline, i'm thinking "What if the second team hadn't died on their mission to krakoa?", Maybe the guy who is writing this storyline could do it.

[Sub-Zero]

is it just me or does "darwin" look kinda like caliban AND aoa morph.??

[KingOfDreams]

I was thinking someone should write a what if storyline, i'm thinking "What if the second team hadn't died on their mission to krakoa?", Maybe the guy who is writing this storyline could do it.

That might be interesting. And if the reality was that they didn't die, the X-Men probably wouldn't include Colossus, Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler.

[Specter313]

I was thinking someone should write a what if storyline, i'm thinking "What if the second team hadn't died on their mission to krakoa?", Maybe the guy who is writing this storyline could do it.

10 bucks says they already have that in the pipeline for this years What If... month.

[squeekness]

is it just me or does "darwin" look kinda like caliban AND aoa morph.??LOL. When I first saw the cover I thought that WAS Caliban! :P

[ShadowBoxing]

I know this is really picky,

but given these guys were meant to be pre-storm, dazzler, wolverine, nightcrawler, sprite, collosus etc etc

Does anyone think there costumes are, well, a little too modern? Well at least, to simple and not funny retro looking?Well thats the point. He waisted all the cool uniforms on the first team which got b****slapped...so when the next team came around all he had was the gay yellow spandex for poor old Wolverine:(

[Generation Lee]

After reading issue three, I admit I didn't see this coming. I was prepared to accept that there might've been another new X-Men on the Krakoa mission who died rescuing the original X-Men... but an entire team who died? Wow. That's pretty heavy. I wonder why these students were put in Moira's care instead of going to the Mansion?

I was hoping Banshee's death would just be some sort of illusion, but it looks like he's really dead. That's a shame.

Don't mean to sound hatefull or anything but seriously!
Come on its obvious uber mutant is the team murged together. When his body was hit by the mutant wave he got all his team mates too. You knew this from issue one! :eek:

[Generation Lee]

I haven't read three yet, but if whoever said it is right and it is about Xavier erasing Cyke's memory than I have somewhere between three and four words for you.

IDENTITY.

CRISIS.

RIP-OFF.

I mean seriously. When is Marvel gonna realize that most of their stories are OLD. Instead, they should do what Geoff Johns does and take nice, friendly, do-gooder benevolent characters from the 1980s and make them vindictive, evil, and hellbent on revenge. That is, if he hadn't done it first. (And by first, I mean recently first.)

So let me get this straight DC took something OLD ie characters from 20 years ago and rehashed a stroy were they merged all their earth's and killed off characters. IC, COIE mmm one in the same re-hashed :confused:. IC just fells the same as the first Crisis which I've only read about. 6 of 1 comes to mind here.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Well thats the point. He waisted all the cool uniforms on the first team which got b****slapped...so when the next team came around all he had was the gay yellow spandex for poor old Wolverine:(

Bwahahaha!

So silly, yet, so relevant.

[OutcryX]

can somebody post some images of what this team's members look like? Im interested...just not interested that much...nevermind...I'll google it and see what i can find...guess i am interested...unless someone else wants to post some...nevermind.

[Specter313]

can somebody post some images of what this team's members look like? Im interested...just not interested that much...nevermind...I'll google it and see what i can find...guess i am interested...unless someone else wants to post some...nevermind.

Page 2, dude.

[OutcryX]

oh....well..ok then....thanks....who is the chick in black? She must not still be dead dammit! i like her and the other girl and the (thrid summers brother) but not morph...

[Specter313]

oh....well..ok then....thanks....who is the chick in black? She must not still be dead dammit! i like her and the other girl and the (thrid summers brother) but not morph...

Now check page 3.

[OutcryX]

i knew it wasnt really morph...just an easy name to call him..Darwin...

Sway

Petra

and ____

What are their power sets?

[ghost113]

That might be interesting. And if the reality was that they didn't die, the X-Men probably wouldn't include Colossus, Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler.

Exactly, i would so buy that if it came out.

[Darkdd]

i knew it wasnt really morph...just an easy name to call him..Darwin...

Sway

Petra

and ____

What are their power sets?

Darwin-His genetic structure is constantly evolving,e.g if he goes under water,he would develop gills or if he enters fire,he would become fireproof.(very cool)

Sway-Temporal Manipulation-We have seen her slow down/stop time around herself.She can also see images of the past(not psychic) e.g she can go out on an empty street at 4am and see in real time images of all what happened previously.She used this ability to find her parents killers shortly after their death.

Petra-Powerful Terrakinetic-We have seen her manipulate earth and stone such as forming gigantic hands out of the earth.

[Darkdd]

Exactly. The only reason she is getting more coverage is that she has to fulfull Jean's role while she's gone.



Hardly a validating statement. That was really weak. 3 jocks does not mean anything. Not too mention that you just pointed out the obvious reason for why they bought it and the fact that they probably haven't read X-men for.... I duno... a few years.

Though Emma is popular to an extent it is largely based on the fact that A: she looks like prostitute and B: she is a hate figure for many fans. Neither of which could take her near Wolverine's level. You've still Cyclops, Colussus, Kitty Pryde and a whole ton of more recognisable and classic mutants before you get to her.


i just used that to show the wider audience,and i'm doing it again when i say the first team my little bro and his friends were exposed to was tha astonishing team.To him,they are the original team.(don't kill me, i'm just saying).That's also because astonishing is the most available X-title where i live.

[Specter313]

Darwin-His genetic structure is constantly evolving,e.g if he goes under water,he would develop gills or if he enters fire,he would become fireproof.(very cool)

Sway-Temporal Manipulation-We have seen her slow down/stop time around herself.She can also see images of the past(not psychic) e.g she can go out on an empty street at 4am and see in real time images of all what happened previously.She used this ability to find her parents killers shortly after their death.

Petra-Powerful Terrakinetic-We have seen her manipulate earth and stone such as forming gigantic hands out of the earth.

Here's hoping they somehow get resurrected as well, cause it could be very interesting, and nice to see a new, fresh villain team around again.

[OutcryX]

Darwin-His genetic structure is constantly evolving,e.g if he goes under water,he would develop gills or if he enters fire,he would become fireproof.(very cool)

Sway-Temporal Manipulation-We have seen her slow down/stop time around herself.She can also see images of the past(not psychic) e.g she can go out on an empty street at 4am and see in real time images of all what happened previously.She used this ability to find her parents killers shortly after their death.

Petra-Powerful Terrakinetic-We have seen her manipulate earth and stone such as forming gigantic hands out of the earth.


Damn...they sound awesome...Thanks for the info! It's hard to imagine how they died being how Krakoa is a living Island and Petra can manipulate that with Darwin being able to adapt to any environment and Sway being able to slow down time if any imminent danger arose, also being able to see into the past and see exactly how the original team was captured so they would know what to avoid and what NOT to do......whats the other guy's powers?

[Essex]

Damn...they sound awesome...Thanks for the info! It's hard to imagine how they died being how Krakoa is a living Island and Petra can manipulate that with Darwin being able to adapt to any environment and Sway being able to slow down time if any imminent danger arose, also being able to see into the past and see exactly how the original team was captured so they would know what to avoid and what NOT to do......whats the other guy's powers?

Very true, but they WERE still kids just discovering their powers, not warriors.

[Darkdd]

The oteher is possibly the 3rd Summers brother so it is fair to assume his powers are energy based,although,in issue 3 he seemed to take control/tap into Rachel's power so he may be psychic.

Update:His name is Vulcan and he is the3rd summers brother.He may also have received a slew of mutant powers from the mutant energy cloud Wanda sent into space.

[HOTROD1988]

So exactly What is Professor X's Deadly Secret???

[squeekness]

Is there going to be a tpb of this or should i just go and get them as they are?Marvel TPBs everything right when they finish. They'll TPB this, no doubt. :up:

[KingOfDreams]

So exactly What is Professor X's Deadly Secret???

I think that the secret is that he sent these four mutants to Krakoa knowing they would most likely be killed. Oh, and probably that the one dude is the third Summers brother.

(I could be wrong, though.)

[jim_root_rules]

sorry im confused i thought cyclops was with jean? ( ive got catching up to do)

[Specter313]

sorry im confused i thought cyclops was with jean? ( ive got catching up to do)

Scott hasn't been with Jean for close to 2 years now.

[OutcryX]

The oteher is possibly the 3rd Summers brother so it is fair to assume his powers are energy based,although,in issue 3 he seemed to take control/tap into Rachel's power so he may be psychic.

Update:His name is Vulcan and he is the3rd summers brother.He may also have received a slew of mutant powers from the mutant energy cloud Wanda sent into space.

Cyclops Havok and ....Vulcan...hmm ok. So. how is he their bro..oh. gotta wait till issue 6 probably.

[ghost113]

How do you know all of this Darkdd?

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Does anyone else conjure up images of Gladiators or Star Trek when they hear the name Vulcan?

[ghost113]

now that you mention it I do.

[Sub-Zero]

does it say in issue 3 that the guy's name is vulcan? and since he's the 3rd brother, does anyone else find it weird that all these "summers" are leading x-teams?

[ghost113]

How come the third summers brother looks nothing like them?
ONe has brown hair, one has black hair, and one has blonde hair.

[cookiva]

How come the third summers brother looks nothing like them?
ONe has brown hair, one has black hair, and one has blonde hair.

Well, I have brown hair, and my sister has red hair. Does that mean that we definitly are not related? No....

I would rather not do a punett square for the Summers family, though...

[OutcryX]

Adam X has blonde hair. He isn't a Summers but being the son of katherine Summers...he is related

[ghost113]

He is their brother but he isn't the third summers brother considering they don't have the same pops.

Cookvia, but what color hair do your parents have?

[cookiva]

He is their brother but he isn't the third summers brother considering they don't have the same pops.

Cookvia, but what color hair do your parents have?

Brown and Blond. My grandparents had either brown or blond hair. The only one not to have that color hair was one of my grandma's, who had red hair. Im sure its the same with the summers brothers...

Why are we talking about this...?

[KingOfDreams]

sorry im confused i thought cyclops was with jean? ( ive got catching up to do)

What Specter said is correct. Jean's actually dead right now...or rather in another plane of existence.

[ghost113]

I am not sure????....... okay so this guy is the third summers brother, I wonder if he is the youngest.

[OutcryX]

im gonna say he is older.

[Abaddon]

I think that the secret is that he sent these four mutants to Krakoa knowing they would most likely be killed. Oh, and probably that the one dude is the third Summers brother.

(I could be wrong, though.)


I doubt he knew they would be killed.

[HOTROD1988]

Whatever happened to Adam X? Maybe he iS in fact the 3rd Summers Brother after all.Maybe the mystery villian/Vulcan? is Not the 3rd bro...
Look at the way the preview of #6 reports:

"The extra-length finale of this best selling shocker!All the secrets are revealed-Who is the 3rd Summers brother and what happened to him?What really happened on Krakoa all those long years ago?And why has Xavier been keeping it to himself for so long?All this ,and an all-out battle between the X-Men and their newest,deadlist foe,and a conclusion that will set-up events that rock the X-Universe for years to come..."

Doesn't sound like the mystery villian and the 3rd Summers Bro are the same person...

[KingOfDreams]

I doubt he knew they would be killed.

But Moira keeps going on and on about him sending children to thier deaths.

[Abaddon]

But Moira keeps going on and on about him sending children to thier deaths.


Maybe they just werent well=prepared and Xavier sent them anyway because he was desperate.After they failed he figured he'd recruit mutants with more experience with their abilities(i.e. the Giant size team).

[OutcryX]

I hope they arent dead. I hope they come back and join the X-men again...Why oh Why does Marvel create the coolest characters just to kill them? ( original Blink)

[KingOfDreams]

You really like them that much? We've only seen them in one backup story each. I wouldn't think that would be enough to get attached. But having said that, I do like Darwin.

[Abaddon]

There's another Blink?:confused:

[Darkdd]

How do you know all of this Darkdd?

I combed the internet,have issue 3 and saw the thread in the Marvel Comics forum:D

[CHObiWan]

Scott hasn't been with Jean for close to 2 years now.

I know. It's sad. But, why Emma Frost?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :cyclops:
I hate her!!!!!!!:down :down :down :down :down

[OutcryX]

There's another Blink?:confused:ummm yes.

there was the original Blink that was slated to join Generation X but sacrificed herself to free the other students (and taking down the Phalanx Harvest with her)

Then there is the the AoA Blink that became really really popular and is the leader of the Exiles right now.

[OutcryX]

You really like them that much? We've only seen them in one backup story each. I wouldn't think that would be enough to get attached. But having said that, I do like Darwin.


well....yeah i do...more so their powersets than them....but yes I think they should all be brought back and join the X-Men

[ghost113]

I still think that this Vulcan character is the 3rd summers brother.

[jim_root_rules]

can someone tell me what happend to jean? does scott just think shes dead so hes moved on liek he did wen he married madlyne pryor and had cable?

[ghost113]

no magneto killed her about two years ago when he was attacking the school and he was cheating on her with emma and after she died she gave him permission to continue to see her.

[Specter313]

no magneto killed her about two years ago when he was attacking the school and he was cheating on her with emma and after she died she gave him permission to continue to see her.

Not so much "gave permission" as "psychically forced".

[ghost113]

Truthfully I never read the story but i have read of the story so thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Specter313]

Truthfully I never read the story but i have read of the story so thanks for clearing that up for me.

Yeah, the basic outline of that is, after Jean died, she woke up in the future, where Scott had quit the X-Men after her death, and basically everything went to hell in a handbasket. Mostly because Beast was also so distraught over things, and without Scott's leadership around, he became infected with Sublime, and pretty much took over the world. By the end of that arc, Jean used her powers to go back through time and give Scott the psychic push he needed to start a relationship with Emma and stay with the X-Men.

[jim_root_rules]

so what was this arc called, i wanna read the main ones to catch up to current stories

[Essex]

no magneto killed her about two years ago when he was attacking the school and he was cheating on her with emma and after she died she gave him permission to continue to see her.

Cyclops never cheated on Jean with Emma. They became emotionally very close, but Cyclops didn't sleep with her while married to Jean. The most they had was a "psychic affair."

[usagicassidy]

When you're married to a telepath, how in the world do you think that you can get away with a "Psychic affair."?

[jim_root_rules]

just thought does this mean jean hasnt been in house of m and deadly genisis or any story for a long time then?

[usagicassidy]

That would be true. Last we saw 'her' was 'Phoenix: Endsong'...unless she was 'shown' in 'End of Grey's', but I never read that arc. Is the in 'The End'?

[ghost113]

Thats what i meant a psychic affair?

[Essex]

When you're married to a telepath, how in the world do you think that you can get away with a "Psychic affair."?

Simply put, you don't. Jean found out and was mighty pissed.

[ghost113]

mighty I think you meant mega.

[jim_root_rules]

damn, i gotta read tht, is she gonan come back from where eva she is?

[ghost113]

Maybe, maybe not no one's been dead this long and is a big character.

[OutcryX]

Thunderbird was dead this long. Collossus was dead for like 3 years if not more. Havok was presumed dead throughout the entire run of Mutant X

[ghost113]

well thunderbird is an exception but jean is one of the most biggest characters in the x-men universe.

[jim_root_rules]

collossus died cos of the legacy virus rite? how did they bring him back?

[KingOfDreams]

collossus died cos of the legacy virus rite? how did they bring him back?

Well, the explanation was that S.W.O.R.D., an offshoot of S.H.I.E.L.D., along with this alien from the Breakworld, switched his body somehow. So the ashes that Kitty desposited in Russia weren't actually his remains. He was kept locked up for experimentation. It's kind of a dumb, cop-out, thrown together thing but Colossus is back so I'm not complaining. I hope I didn't ruin anything for you because since you've asked this I'm assuming you haven't read the first arc of Astonishing X-Men.

[jim_root_rules]

nah , its cool i gotta know these thing im attempting to catch up with evrything thats going on, cos house of m got my attention, and now i wanna start reading the current issues so its all helpign me on what things i need to read.

[Abaddon]

ummm yes.

there was the original Blink that was slated to join Generation X but sacrificed herself to free the other students (and taking down the Phalanx Harvest with her)

Then there is the the AoA Blink that became really really popular and is the leader of the Exiles right now.

Ok.I was only familiar with the AoA Blink.

[cookiva]

Hey, I was re-reading issue 2, and I have a question. When Banshee says "No" in front of the blackbird, was that because he finally saw that it was the blackbird, or because of who was in it. I know its not really that important, as we know that he saw Moira files, and knows about the villain, but its more for me to just know...

[Specter313]

Hey, I was re-reading issue 2, and I have a question. When Banshee says "No" in front of the blackbird, was that because he finally saw that it was the blackbird, or because of who was in it. I know its not really that important, as we know that he saw Moira files, and knows about the villain, but its more for me to just know...

I think it was because he knew he couldn't stop the planes from crashing.

[OutcryX]

Is Prof X even in this book so far? or only in flashback? I hate that Banshee is killed. I guess Xavier can do anything to stop this, being how he is powerless now and all

[cookiva]

I think it was because he knew he couldn't stop the planes from crashing.

But if thats the case, then why did he sheild the cockpit with his scream, and not the passenger jet?

[Specter313]

But if thats the case, then why did he sheild the cockpit with his scream, and not the passenger jet?

I think he was just trying to stop the X-jet, or at least veer it off course, but his powers gave out. I think he would still have been recovering from getting his throat slit.

[cookiva]

Ah, gotcha!

[JustABill]

It'd be nice to have at least Petra alive and join the X-Men. She seems powerful enough to be a third new X Goddess.

[OutcryX]

They are all interesting enough with awesome powers to bring back.

[Sean Madrox]

I finally read the first three books and considering the art, its nothing special, especially since Beast looked skinny and Emma had pigtails in her hair.

I'm a little lost, but soon I'll be able to put the pieces together, does Vulcan have the ability to bamf like Nightcrawler?

So this is pretty much about a X-team that Xavier had that where all killed on K-island. Is this the first time they appear in the issue as a back story?

[ghost113]

I am leaving this thread until i actually start reading it so see you guys.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Previews for Issue 4# are up at Newsarama.

The Krakoa flashbacks confirm that Xavier enlisted the help of Moira's mutants to save the original X-Men, and we all know that Moira's mutants never did.

I'd say at this point it's fairly easy to connect the dots, the most interesting thing about this series won't be 'Xavier's big secret revealed' but rather the insight into new villain that will come out of it.

And this was essentially the purpose of the story; to create a new Villain that works as both a threat and has an emotional/historic connection to the X-Men similar to Magneto. With the absence of the major villains from the X-Rogues gallery, creating some new ones is a pretty good idea.

[Mar420x]

Previews for Issue 4# are up at Newsarama.

The Krakoa flashbacks confirm that Xavier enlisted the help of Moira's mutants to save the original X-Men, and we all know that Moira's mutants never did.

I'd say at this point it's fairly easy to connect the dots, the most interesting thing about this series won't be 'Xavier's big secret revealed' but rather the insight into new villain that will come out of it.

And this was essentially the purpose of the story; to create a new Villain that works as both a threat and has an emotional/historic connection to the X-Men similar to Magneto. With the absence of the major villains from the X-Rogues gallery, creating some new ones is a pretty good idea.

thanks, manye. im checkin it out right now. this series got hook back on x-men. cant wait for this book 2 hit the stands. WOW! The Artwork looks amazing.

[Specter313]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_previews/genesis4_1.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_previews/genesis4_2.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_previews/genesis4_3.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_previews/genesis4_4.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_previews/genesis4_5.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_previews/genesis4_6.jpg

[KingOfDreams]

Hairsine's art gets better with each issue. It was really crappy in the first issue. Kind of strange.

[GreatWhiteWhale]

I thought it was good in the first issue and in the second and third it seemed a bit rushed. Issue 4 looks good though, I agree that Beast should be bulkier and Emma should look a little more like a schoolmaster, but it's not big deal

[Sean Madrox]

This next issue looks very promising, yeah the artwork looks better this time around, needs to add mass to Beast really. I think this issue is going to tie in altogether for me, I still can't believe that they killed Banshee tho.

[KingOfDreams]

I still can't believe that they killed Banshee tho.

I know! :mad:

[SMroxs]

I'm really digging this series. I like that we kind of already know what's coming and that they aren't saving all the surprises for right at the very end. This is how HOM should've gone- more action and revelations in the beginning issues. Yet at the same time I don't quite know what the final plot twists will be. Like what woke Vulcan up and how he ended up in space, why Xavier hid the existance of a third Summers brother and will the X-Men forgive him for lying, etc.

I wonder what Vulcan's powers will be? He seems to have some telepathic abilities, yet he needs Rachel. Definitely has some control over matter the way he is bending that metal to hold Scott and Rachel. Seems like a pretty powerful guy.

[HOTROD1988]

Im really digging it too...Boy I wonder how it all concludes.... I just have one Qu: Is Vulcan REALLY the third brother of Scott???

[ghost113]

Possibly.

[Kanon]

Like what woke Vulcan up and how he ended up in space, why Xavier hid the existance of a third Summers brother and will the X-Men forgive him for lying, etc.
About how he ended up in space, I think he was in Krakoa when the island get hurled to space

[El Bastardo]

Like SMroxs, I too am really digging this mini.

I had my doubts (that's generally the cautious approach to Marvel minis of late, I say), but it's really shaping up. I'm bummed at Banshee's death (not to mention a tad cheated - didn't they say that a really popular character was going to die?), but it was done way better than, say, Psylocke's, or most of Jean's. At least it was fairly heroic and for a reason.

And, like SMroxs said, this is how HoM should've been done. But, then, they made the fate the moment they signed Bendis to writing the main part of it. I really do dislike you, Mr. Bendis.

This mini, though, shines in that, though the villain is obviously very, very powerful and able to take down Scott and Rachel, and incapacitate Wolverine with only a few blasts, he's not some screwed up megalomaniac intent on uber-destruction. As someone else said, he's going to have an emotional connection with, at least, the original X-Men. And he's got a real connection and problem with Xavier. That's golden. I was wary in the prospect of Xavier having yet -another- dirty secret, but Brubaker's doing it well.

If Vulcan (that's his name?) was on Krakoa when the island got hurled into outer space... well, one, how many years within continuity (or whatever resembles continuity in Marvel) since K-island was hurled, and two... if Vulcan was dead, what suddenly brought him back to life? If he was alive, and just, say, comatose, why'd he suddenly awaken?

[Specter313]

If Vulcan (that's his name?) was on Krakoa when the island got hurled into outer space... well, one, how many years within continuity (or whatever resembles continuity in Marvel) since K-island was hurled, and two... if Vulcan was dead, what suddenly brought him back to life? If he was alive, and just, say, comatose, why'd he suddenly awaken?

He, along with other members of his team, seem to have been killed when Xavier shipped them off to Krakoa to rescue the old X-Men team. What brought him back was the wave of mutant energy that was sent off after House of M.

[Kanon]

If Vulcan (that's his name?) was on Krakoa when the island got hurled into outer space... well, one, how many years within continuity (or whatever resembles continuity in Marvel) since K-island was hurled, and two... if Vulcan was dead, what suddenly brought him back to life? If he was alive, and just, say, comatose, why'd he suddenly awaken?
I have read only 1-3 (I don't know if 4 is out yet) and it seems that 1-The whole team survived or 2-(more likely) This Vulcan guy has the combined powers of that team. If 2 is the case, he used Petra powers to make the hearth hand that grabbed the space shuttle, maybe the ghost of the past in the mansion, and it could have used Darwin's habillity to adapt to survive in space all these years...
What am wondering, any clues to where are Cyclops and Rachel being held? Rachel sensed the Prof mental signature and this guy said that Cyclops would recognize it from where he was standing (if Scott wouldn't had his memory erased, at least)

[El Bastardo]

He, along with other members of his team, seem to have been killed when Xavier shipped them off to Krakoa to rescue the old X-Men team. What brought him back was the wave of mutant energy that was sent off after House of M.

Yeah. See, that's what I was betting on. Yay that I was right. =D

[danielisthor]

and Emma should look a little more like a schoolmaster, but it's not big deal


Considering what Emma wears on a regurlar basis, looking like a schoolmaster is out of the question. I'm willing to bet that 100% of the male students "whack" off to Emma nightly.

[OutcryX]

Considering what Emma wears on a regurlar basis, looking like a schoolmaster is out of the question. I'm willing to bet that 100% of the male students "whack" off to Emma nightly.

and her being a telepath and all...would know it...and prolly get off to it too

[comic_geek21]

Considering what Emma wears on a regurlar basis, looking like a schoolmaster is out of the question. I'm willing to bet that 100% of the male students "whack" off to Emma nightly.


We're talking about a woman so comfortable in her own skin, she would teach a classroom of young boys in lingere and be perfectly comfortable. C'mon, Emma Frost is every teenagers wet dream, so it's not a stretch to think that 100% of the male students.....'think' about her at night.

Come to think of it, being a telepath, she probably knows this. Knowing Emma, she probably enjoys the feeling of power she has over men. *cough* Cyclops *cough*

[ghost113]

She probably just loves the attention she gets from the male students.

[comic_geek21]

I personally love Emma Frost. She's one of my favorite X-Men. And not because of her perfect breasts!

It's because she has this dark side to her. You can't tell weither she's really in love with Cyclops or just controlling him. I can't wait to see if she's still part of the Hellfire Club or not. That's why I like Emma Frost.



And.........cause she has perfect breasts.:D :D

[ghost113]

Wow you are a comic geek, comic geek, but we all are so I can't say anything.

[NocturnalMadman]

Of course, the "bet" about 100% of the male students getting off over Emma is an instant loss since Victor/Anole is gay...

So when's Deadly Genesis #4 out? It'd be a shame if all 3 of the back up guys are dead, it woulda been cool to see one or more on Brubakers Uncanny team (which so far is a litle underwhelming...)

[comic_geek21]

Wow you are a comic geek, comic geek, but we all are so I can't say anything.

Thanks for the compliment!!!:D

And yes....no matter how cool we appear to be, we are all geeks at heart!

Besides....geeks rule the world. Ask Bill Gates!

[OutcryX]

We're talking about a woman so comfortable in her own skin, she would teach a classroom of young boys in lingere and be perfectly comfortable. C'mon, Emma Frost is every teenagers wet dream, so it's not a stretch to think that 100% of the male students.....'think' about her at night.

Come to think of it, being a telepath, she probably knows this. Knowing Emma, she probably enjoys the feeling of power she has over men. *cough* Cyclops *cough*

damn...i could swore i had just said this in the post right before his...freakin hollow a$$ rooms and these echos.....

[Kanon]

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/showcomic.htm?id=3629&format=comic

So, #4 is suppossedly out. Anyone read it?

[comic_geek21]

The only X books I read are Astonishing and New X-Men. Astonishing cuz, well, Whedon=God. And I just started reading New X-Men because X-23 has joined the team, and I think she's hawt.:D

[danielisthor]

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/showcomic.htm?id=3629&format=comic

So, #4 is suppossedly out. Anyone read it?


Just bought and read it.

[Specter313]

I loved it! God, I can't wait for Brubaker to take over Uncanny.

[cookiva]

I loved it! God, I can't wait for Brubaker to take over Uncanny.

It was really good, but nothing will top Daredevil from my take today.

God, if anyone doesnt get this book, GET IT!

[Darkdd]

Is this the one with the Emma Frost extra story?

[Specter313]

Is this the one with the Emma Frost extra story?

No, that's the next one. This one told Kid Vulcan's (the bad guy in the mini, and third summers brother) back story.

[Darkdd]

Thanx.

[OutcryX]

No, that's the next one. This one told Kid Vulcan's (the bad guy in the mini, and third summers brother) back story.


ok...so what is his back story? is he the other brother? how did xavier recruit him...was scott in it?

[Specter313]

ok...so what is his back story? is he the other brother? how did xavier recruit him...was scott in it?

He was apparently genetically engineered by the Shiar in a colony possibly hidden on Earth. When his powers manifested, he accidentally killed the only person who cared for him, and made his escape. He was found a year later living in a sewer in New York, and Moira took him in with the rest of the mutants who had back up stories. His powers are energy manipulation by the way. He trained with Moira, but was fascinated with the X-Men and jumped at the chance to become one when Xavier came looking for help to save the others from Krakoa.

[JustABill]

Soooo how is he Cykes and Havok's brother then? And gugh...Shiarness.

[ghost113]

how does that make him the third summers brother?

[Specter313]

They didn't really explain it, I guess they just took DNA from either Christopher or Katherine, but the words came straight from Vulcan's mouth. He's Scott's long lost younger brother. Probably get the full explaination in another issue.

[JustABill]

Hmm. Interestingggg. -goes to pick up issue tommorrow- I just wish he was a full fledged brother.

I also wish Sway, Petra, and Darwin would show up alive and well. It'd bee niceeee to see some of them on Brubaker's Uncanny Team.

[OutcryX]

so there are TWO freakin' Shiar involved/related possible Summers brothers?.....why?!?!

[JustABill]

I think Adam X doesn't count anymore. He's probably gone forever/written out of continuity/ret-conned.

[OutcryX]

i dont understand this whole retcon thing..i mean i do, but damn what happens when u go back to read the old issue that has been erased? i guess just for good memories. Damn, Adam X was cool.

[ShadowBoxing]

They didn't really explain it, I guess they just took DNA from either Christopher or Katherine, but the words came straight from Vulcan's mouth. He's Scott's long lost younger brother. Probably get the full explaination in another issue.a few possibilities

1) When on route in the plane they were abducted. They were going to see their [Scott and Alex's] grandparents. Why would they go see relatives so far away, well maybe to announce something monumentous, like Katherine Anne being pergnant

2) Perhaps Katherine Anne was raped by D'Ken. This would explain why Vulcan is significantly different from Scott and also why he never caught the attention of Sinister (we assume) since he would have Katherine Anne's and not Summer's DNA. Also could be why Xavier never sensed they were brothers right away.

3) Genetic clone made by Shi'ar. Why abduct humans if you are not using them for something.

4) After his wifes death its possible Christopher had a romance with a Shi'ar woman, perhaps someone who aided his escape.

[Darth Wolverine]

So Sway, Petra, Darwin, and Vulcan are the first team that were sent to Krakoa by Xavier? Then they died and he sent Storm and the others out?

[kbtoyz902]

On top of that, it appears Gabrielle(Vulcan), has/had the potential to be more powerful than Cyclops prior to his "accident." Xavier mentioned to Moira that he felt that Vulcan could be an X-Man sooner than expected, and not all of it had to do with a tie to Scott, which he never brought up. There was a part where the two trained, and Vulcan was able to do the same thing he did in the caves to Cyclops, control the direction of his beams.

So if he really was strong then, and now it appears he's taken some of the abilities of his peers(the rock formation, the Marvel girl "image", and if there's one for Darwin that I missed, please bring it up), he could be a pretty cool guy to add to the X-Men roster. Hopefully the story has him leave as an X-Men again instead of a dead guy. I think Brubaker has every right to continue writing this guy as a current member, with the way he's explained him.

BTW, Is the new Daredevil hard to pick up on? I LOVE Cap. America, and hopped on deadly genesis because of Brubaker, but I've never read any Daredevil. I want to make sure I won't get it on over my head if I begin reading it.

[SMroxs]

a few possibilities

1) When on route in the plane they were abducted. They were going to see their [Scott and Alex's] grandparents. Why would they go see relatives so far away, well maybe to announce something monumentous, like Katherine Anne being pergnant

2) Perhaps Katherine Anne was raped by D'Ken. This would explain why Vulcan is significantly different from Scott and also why he never caught the attention of Sinister (we assume) since he would have Katherine Anne's and not Summer's DNA. Also could be why Xavier never sensed they were brothers right away.

3) Genetic clone made by Shi'ar. Why abduct humans if you are not using them for something.

4) After his wifes death its possible Christopher had a romance with a Shi'ar woman, perhaps someone who aided his escape.

Interesting theories. But as for #2, Vulcan has caught Sinister's attention. The whole 3rd Summers Brother thing started back in X-Men 20-something when Sinister confronted Cylcops in Alaska and told him he wanted to see Cylcops and his "brothers" kept safe (from the Legacy Virus). Or something like that. Cyclops questioned what Sinister meant by "brothers" and Sinister said he just slipped up and really only meant to say brother, as in Alex. But we all know good and well it wasn't just a slip up. Sinister knows about the 3rd brother. Whether he has any interest in him or not remains to be seen!

Since Corsair seemed to know about the third brother from the conversation he and Xavier had (in ghost form) before Havok in Deadly Genesis 3, I'm going to guess that either option 1 or 4 will be correct. Or perhaps D'Ken did rape Katherine and when Corsair escaped from D'Ken he took the baby with him and then dropped if off on Earth. After all it probably would've been way too hard for him to raise the child himself due to the circumstances of its conception.

[ShadowBoxing]

Interesting theories. But as for #2, Vulcan has caught Sinister's attention. The whole 3rd Summers Brother thing started back in X-Men 20-something when Sinister confronted Cylcops in Alaska and told him he wanted to see Cylcops and his "brothers" kept safe (from the Legacy Virus). Or something like that. Cyclops questioned what Sinister meant by "brothers" and Sinister said he just slipped up and really only meant to say brother, as in Alex. But we all know good and well it wasn't just a slip up. Sinister knows about the 3rd brother. Whether he has any interest in him or not remains to be seen!

Since Corsair seemed to know about the third brother from the conversation he and Xavier had (in ghost form) before Havok in Deadly Genesis 3, I'm going to guess that either option 1 or 4 will be correct. Or perhaps D'Ken did rape Katherine and when Corsair escaped from D'Ken he took the baby with him and then dropped if off on Earth. After all it probably would've been way too hard for him to raise the child himself due to the circumstances of its conception.There is a good bit of evidence he meant Gambit when he said that (I know what quote you refer) so basically, judging by the Shi'ar connections Sinister most certainly would not know about this kid...especially since Sinister lost contact with Scott for the time during which he became an X-Man.

[OutcryX]

a few possibilities

1) When on route in the plane they were abducted. They were going to see their [Scott and Alex's] grandparents. Why would they go see relatives so far away, well maybe to announce something monumentous, like Katherine Anne being pergnant

2) Perhaps Katherine Anne was raped by D'Ken. This would explain why Vulcan is significantly different from Scott and also why he never caught the attention of Sinister (we assume) since he would have Katherine Anne's and not Summer's DNA. Also could be why Xavier never sensed they were brothers right away.

3) Genetic clone made by Shi'ar. Why abduct humans if you are not using them for something.

4) After his wifes death its possible Christopher had a romance with a Shi'ar woman, perhaps someone who aided his escape.


That storyline was already used....the baby that resulted is Adam X...and as far as we know, he has been retconned out of existence....That would be a major slap in the face to take HIS orign and re-write it for Vulcan.....unless of course...she had twins....:eek:

[ghost113]

I don't know, but i like this Vulcan character.

[OutcryX]

I'm kinda coming around to Vulcan as well....I do believe he may remain a villian though....I wouldn't forgive Xavier if he left me to die and then erased everybody who ever knew of my existances' minds. That said...I want Adam X back and I want a full explanation...but since when do the wants of one man ever amount to a hill of beans in this world?(it could happen though)

[kbtoyz902]

^Same here. I'd absolutely love him to come out of this situation as a good guy. He's on the sketch cover of the new UXM team post too. It's hard to tell if he's a good guy or not though because his eyes are always the same.

[Specter313]

^Same here. I'd absolutely love him to come out of this situation as a good guy. He's on the sketch cover of the new UXM team post too. It's hard to tell if he's a good guy or not though because his eyes are always the same.

Brubaker has said he has plans for this guy to hopefully stay a villain for a good amount of time.

[OutcryX]

Hmmm...this may a bit far fetched but...Scott and Alex...dark hair and light hair.....This Vulcan guy and Adam X...dark hair and light hair....just pointing out similarities that could(probably not) come into play in the future.....Would make sense for Corsair, trying to rescue Katherine...discovers she has two new baby boys...Katherine is killed during the rescue atempt, Cosiar only manages to save one child and brings him to Earth....while D'Ken or a member of the royal family raises Adam.....

[Specter313]

Hmmm...this may a bit far fetched but...Scott and Alex...dark hair and light hair.....This Vulcan guy and Adam X...dark hair and light hair....just pointing out similarities that could(probably not) come into play in the future.....Would make sense for Corsair, trying to rescue Katherine...discovers she has two new baby boys...Katherine is killed during the rescue atempt, Cosiar only manages to save one child and brings him to Earth....while D'Ken or a member of the royal family raises Adam.....

But why would Corsair abandon him in New York to survive in the streets? No, Vulcan got away from the Shiar on his own. And the colony that he grew up in had other people there besides Shiar. In fact, they had glowing eyes just like him, so it's likely that they were just given DNA of Corsair and/or Katherine and spliced it with DNA from one of their own species, and resulted in Vulcan.

[OutcryX]

But why would Corsair abandon him in New York to survive in the streets? No, Vulcan got away from the Shiar on his own. And the colony that he grew up in had other people there besides Shiar. In fact, they had glowing eyes just like him, so it's likely that they were just given DNA of Corsair and/or Katherine and spliced it with DNA from one of their own species, and resulted in Vulcan.


So then his explanation of being a 'brother' would be because he was genetically created in a tube? Thats VERY close to the Gambit as the third brother conclusion....at least it doesnt have him being the love child of Cyclops and Sinister....yet. Also...how does Sinister know of his existance and his relationship to Cyclops...especially if Xavier erased his entire existence....I am hoping the whole team survives, not just Vulcan with all their powers...that would suck

[ghost113]

Sinister practically knows everything about the summers family so why wouldn't he know about Vulcan.

[Specter313]

Sinister practically knows everything about the summers family so why wouldn't he know about Vulcan.

He probably knew about him, but he knew he was dead all this time.

[OutcryX]

Sinister practically knows everything about the summers family so why wouldn't he know about Vulcan.

Probably because he is from outer space and Sinister has always been kind focused on Earth-Bound studies...at least I haven't ever seen or known him to have interests in beings from space...about as far into space and Sinister i have seen was when his Dark Riders battled the X-men on the moon.....

Sinister would only have knowledge of the two children that Christopher and Katherine had PRIOR to them 'dying' in the plane crash. That would be Alex and Scott. Any child born to either after that...would be unknown to him. Which I would want an explanation of HOW he knows..whether it was Adam X or Vulcan..both have Shi'ar connections...that and with Vulcan possibly being 'created' as opposed to born....puzzling. I still think Adam X will have some play or resolution in this story.

[Specter313]

So then his explanation of being a 'brother' would be because he was genetically created in a tube? Thats VERY close to the Gambit as the third brother conclusion....at least it doesnt have him being the love child of Cyclops and Sinister....yet. Also...how does Sinister know of his existance and his relationship to Cyclops...especially if Xavier erased his entire existence....I am hoping the whole team survives, not just Vulcan with all their powers...that would suck

He'd be a brother because he shares some DNA with Scott, either through their mothers or fathers. As far as Sinister, Xavier just erased Vulcan from the minds of everyone who knew of this failed mission, so maybe Sinister just found something about it later on.

[OutcryX]

He'd be a brother because he shares some DNA with Scott, either through their mothers or fathers. As far as Sinister, Xavier just erased Vulcan from the minds of everyone who knew of this failed mission, so maybe Sinister just found something about it later on.

I know that. Thats why I said it was similar to Clarmeonts revelation of Gambit being the 3rd brother....except this time the rembered to include the parental DNA into the mixture and not Scott's....still is a lame and weak explanation.

[Specter313]

I know that. Thats why I said it was similar to Clarmeonts revelation of Gambit being the 3rd brother....except this time the rembered to include the parental DNA into the mixture and not Scott's....still is a lame and weak explanation.

Remember we don't have the full explaination either. Most of this is just speculation on the fans part. I wouldn't be surprised if Brubaker holds a more full explaination off until his run on Uncanny.

[kbtoyz902]

^That's probably gonna be the case.

:( @ the Vulcan as a villain comment. I guess it makes sense since the UXM team is following him through space. Regardless, Vulcan staying around is definitely going to be pretty cool, with or without his ties to Cyclops.

Brubaker hasn't disappointed with his other Marvel books(at least me), so I doubt he's going to that with this. Mostly because this book is probably the one he writes that gets the most attention.

[ShadowBoxing]

So then his explanation of being a 'brother' would be because he was genetically created in a tube? Thats VERY close to the Gambit as the third brother conclusion....at least it doesnt have him being the love child of Cyclops and Sinister....yet. Also...how does Sinister know of his existance and his relationship to Cyclops...especially if Xavier erased his entire existence....I am hoping the whole team survives, not just Vulcan with all their powers...that would suckI think he was created in a tube...read this quote from Brubaker

"What happened to this team, though, will be revealed in Deadly Genesis #6, but it was revealed that Vulcan is related, somehow, to Scott and Alex Summers, that he's their brother."

[danielisthor]

IF Sinister knew of Vulcan's existence and ties to Scott and Alex, he still would have believed him dead on the moon and would not have referred to him as trying to keep alive. I think there are more Summer's "brothers" including Adam X and that rat bastard Gambit.

Sinister, in the Colossus:Bloodline Mini, believed that Peter, Mikhail, the cousin and uncle (who's names have escaped me) to have been the last of the Rasputins, But when the panel where the uncle kills himself, Petey Jr was shown being tormented. Obviously, Sinister doesn't know of him. Sinister is not all knowing.

[Specter313]

IF Sinister knew of Vulcan's existence and ties to Scott and Alex, he still would have believed him dead on the moon and would not have referred to him as trying to keep alive. I think there are more Summer's "brothers" including Adam X and that rat bastard Gambit.

Sinister, in the Colossus:Bloodline Mini, believed that Peter, Mikhail, the cousin and uncle (who's names have escaped me) to have been the last of the Rasputins, But when the panel where the uncle kills himself, Petey Jr was shown being tormented. Obviously, Sinister doesn't know of him. Sinister is not all knowing.

Yeah, I really wish they somehow worked Pete's son into that mini besides that brief cameo that he had. That was kind of annoying.

[Advocate05]

After reading the interview and hearing your explanations. I thik the new member of UXN is Adam X. That would make sense seeing as how Adam X had a similar storyline. And I wouldn't rule out there being more than 4 brothers. I mean Sinister did say "Brothers" being plural. And we always assumed that he meant a third bro, but what if theres MORE. Like 6 or 8? You have to figure ... Corsair was a horn dog. He probably spread his "genetic makeup" on a bunch of hottie space alien females.

[Valechan]

Great, now there's gonna be the 4th Summers Brother story, and a few years after that there's gonna be a 5th, and then a 6th and a 7th ... when will it end??

[Advocate05]

No it already happened ... remember Adam X? That's probably the fourth one.

[danielisthor]

Great, now there's gonna be the 4th Summers Brother story, and a few years after that there's gonna be a 5th, and then a 6th and a 7th ... when will it end??


We all know Daddy Summers is banging Hebzibah, eventually some weird half human half squirrel is going to pop and then there will be another.

[OutcryX]

After reading the interview and hearing your explanations. I thik the new member of UXN is Adam X. That would make sense seeing as how Adam X had a similar storyline. And I wouldn't rule out there being more than 4 brothers. I mean Sinister did say "Brothers" being plural. And we always assumed that he meant a third bro, but what if theres MORE. Like 6 or 8? You have to figure ... Corsair was a horn dog. He probably spread his "genetic makeup" on a bunch of hottie space alien females.

except Adam X is a child of rape. D'Ken raped katherine Summers...and she had his child...then died...It would be X-TREMELY(pun intended..and lame) out of left field for Adam-X to make this team....seeing as he has been missing since oh..i dunno...1996.

[ghost113]

who cares theyr'e (marvel writers) are bringing back many characters from the past, who knows Adam X could be the new team member and he he got rid of the mullet and backwards hat i wouldn't care if it was him.

[Advocate05]

Outcry your right, but again he is a child of a Summers. And Bru didn't say how this person was born which lends itself to clone ... and rape.

[Specter313]

Outcry your right, but again he is a child of a Summers. And Bru didn't say how this person was born which lends itself to clone ... and rape.

Cloning and rape have nothing to do with each other. We don't know who's DNA was used to create Vulcan. It could be just Corsair, it could be just Katherine, it could be both with a bit of alien mixed in. It's too early to say.

[Specter313]

We all know Daddy Summers is banging Hebzibah, eventually some weird half human half squirrel is going to pop and then there will be another.

It's the first Summers Sister!:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sqlgrl5.jpg

[JustABill]

Lmfao. Spec, you silly boy.

[Specter313]

Lmfao. Spec, you silly boy.

Anyone who had to have read the GLA(now GLX) stuff had to have thought that as well.

[JustABill]

Lmfao. If I ever write for Marvel. I'm gonna do something really hilarious and unexpected if I'm ever on Avengers. Like have Squirrel Girl on the team. Haha.

Nah. That's just a little bit ''What the hell?"

[Sub-Zero]

so what everyone is saying is that vulcan is basically a retconned adam x since he has shiar ties? that's such a slap in the face to not have him be a full fledged brother.

[Advocate05]

Spec~ what I meant was. Adam X was born out of a rape. Vulcan is somehow related. A person on another thread said maybe cloning. We have no idea how Vulcan and the Summers brothers are related. And Bru never said Vulcan was the only other brother. He said the mystery one partner will send the team and the X-Verse into a tailspin. My theory and its being justified over at "Bru's run plot and writing" thread is ... Adam-X is the other one.

[Hotaru]

I found issue 4 of Deadly Genesis totally redundant. I mean, everybody already deduced that those mutants were sent to save the first line-up of the X-Men and dedicating 30 pages to learn the "dreadful truth" about n-th Summers brother is such a waste.
So, now we are all to be thrilled about what was it that Xavier said to Vulcan? "I'll make you an X-Men after you return"?
"Scott is your borther so don't come back without him"?
I stopped to care...

[SMroxs]

I disagree Hotaru (love that name BTW). Even though we knew what was coming this was still a damn good issue. The X-Men didn't know what was coming and I think Brubaker has done a good job nailing their reactions and frustrations as to what's going on around them. And it is a dreadful truth for them to find out! Their mentor, someone they've entrusted their lives with on many ocassions, not only got a group of students killed but then he practically erased them as if they had never existed!

[HOTROD1988]

Spec~ what I meant was. Adam X was born out of a rape. Vulcan is somehow related. A person on another thread said maybe cloning. We have no idea how Vulcan and the Summers brothers are related. And Bru never said Vulcan was the only other brother. He said the mystery one partner will send the team and the X-Verse into a tailspin. My theory and its being justified over at "Bru's run plot and writing" thread is ... Adam-X is the other one.

Is it comfirmed that Adam-X is the rape child of D'Ken and Katherine Summers?If so,in which issue(s)...

[Specter313]

Is it comfirmed that Adam-X is the rape child of D'Ken and Katherine Summers?If so,in which issue(s)...

It was only confirmed that he is the son of D'Ken raping a human woman, often rumored to be Katherine Summers, but never confirmed. That much was revealed in Captain Marvel (2nd series) #3. The guy who originally started the whole thing, Fabian Nicieza, did confirm that he meant for Adam X to be the third Summers brother, but he was pulled from the books before he could conclude it, so it's not technically a part of comic canon at this time.

[GambitXremy]

Vulcans cool tho

[OutcryX]

Vulcan is growing on me as well....but his origin is oddly familiar to Adam X(as much as we know of either's that is) and that would be just lazy writing from Brubaker. It would be as if he is actually replacing Adam X and writing him out of history...which would really upset me. Just give me some closure on Adam X....even if he is revealed to not be related to Scott and Alex.

[Kanon]

Vulcan is growing on me as well....but his origin is oddly familiar to Adam X(as much as we know of either's that is) and that would be just lazy writing from Brubaker. It would be as if he is actually replacing Adam X and writing him out of history...which would really upset me. Just give me some closure on Adam X....even if he is revealed to not be related to Scott and Alex.
But if Adam X is not related to Cyclops, a closure would seem forced. We get and story about Adam X, and at some point he reveals his origin: "I am the son of D'Ken and some human woman, who IS NOT Cyclops's mam..." :)
I guess Brubaker was asked to make the origin of Vulcan as after the abduction of the Summers by the Shi'ar, and that made it difficult to make someting entirely different... I found interesting tough, that the Shi'ar fortress Vulcan was, seemed to be located on Earth, and intriguing wich role he played during his time there...

[JustABill]

Adam X and Stacy X = The two characters that would probably never be missed from comics if they disappeared forever.

[OutcryX]

Adam X and Stacy X = The two characters that would probably never be missed from comics if they disappeared forever.


That is your opinion. I am a fan of Adam X...Stacy X...I'm sure she has a fan out there too....But Adam-X will be missed....if only by me, I am prepared to stand alone. *Holds up lighter*

[OutcryX]

But if Adam X is not related to Cyclops, a closure would seem forced. We get and story about Adam X, and at some point he reveals his origin: "I am the son of D'Ken and some human woman, who IS NOT Cyclops's mam..." :)
I guess Brubaker was asked to make the origin of Vulcan as after the abduction of the Summers by the Shi'ar, and that made it difficult to make someting entirely different... I found interesting tough, that the Shi'ar fortress Vulcan was, seemed to be located on Earth, and intriguing wich role he played during his time there...

The closure WOULD be forced....because his character went away and never came back...yet is tied into one of the most intriguing plot holes left in X-Men lore. They didn't do him justice at all....that however does not mean that he shouldn't have closure of some kind.

[ShadowBoxing]

I never liked Adam X

However I think Kid Vulcan will turn out to be a clone of some sort

[ghost113]

Im out of this thread.