5.18 - Fragile Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[avidreader]

New Episode title from Ksite - Fragile

No spoilers for this one.

I cant believe that these are bringing us to almost the end of the season. This is the episode before the one that Tom Welling is supposed to be directing, so it may not have much of him in it. Or so he says.

[The Incredible Hulk]

"oooh 'Fragili!'... must be Italian!"

http://acs.flicklives.com/collect/red_ryder_leg_lamp.jpg

[Serene]

"oooh 'Fragili!'... must be Italian!"

http://acs.flicklives.com/collect/red_ryder_leg_lamp.jpg

LOL! "You'll shoot yer eye out kid!"

[Kaboom]

huh? i dont get it........

[avidreader]

huh? i dont get it........

I'm glad you said that, 'cause I dont get it either. However, it must mean something 'cause I saw a similar comment posted on another site. :confused:

[O'Haire]

huh? i dont get it........

It's from "A Christmas Story".

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AYJUW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[avidreader]

It's from "A Christmas Story".



Explains why I dont get it! I've never seen or heard of that movie.

[The Incredible Hulk]

you should be deported ;) :p

[boydston_14]

Best Christmas movie ever.

[Serene]

"Fa ra ra ra raaa, Ra ra ra raa" :D

[DarthSkywalker]

Lex losing his mind again do to good old Brainiac. Can you say "Lexiac".

[avidreader]

you should be deported ;) :p

C'mon. You'd miss me and my keyboard. ;)

[Brainiac 8]

Lex losing his mind again do to good old Brainiac. Can you say "Lexiac".


There you are Hulk, someone gave you another name/mix to love.;)

[DarthSkywalker]

Real name mix believe it or not.

[DarthSkywalker]

Real name mix believe it or not.

[jas01724]

Interesting ... http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm

[Lara]

Finally back with a new computer that actually works! I have really high hopes for this one. I'm glad Tom is getting to stretch himself. He's dedicated so many years to this show and I'm sure he has alot of good ideas.

[avidreader]

So happy to see you back Lara. We're a little light on female company around here.

When I read that guy's blog the other day, I thought to myself they cant be up to filming episode 19 already, and look what James has done for us, he's more or less confirmed that its episode 18.

This has a little girl in it, so I wonder if his experience on the CBTD movies came into play. :)

Anyway, I'm glad to see they considered he's been a good boy and allowed him to direct an episode.

Should be a good one!

[avidreader]

So happy to see you back Lara. We're a little light on female company around here.

When I read that guy's blog the other day, I thought to myself they cant be up to filming episode 19 already, and look what James has done for us, he's more or less confirmed that its episode 18.

This has a little girl in it, so I wonder if his experience on the CBTD movies came into play. :)

Anyway, I'm glad to see they considered he's been a good boy and allowed him to direct an episode.

Should be a good one!

[Serene]

Finally back with a new computer that actually works! I have really high hopes for this one. I'm glad Tom is getting to stretch himself. He's dedicated so many years to this show and I'm sure he has alot of good ideas.

Good to see you back, Lara! :)

[Red X]

Lex losing his mind again do to good old Brainiac. Can you say "Lexiac".

Or Brainthor.

[Lara]

Thanks guys. I have to admit trying to stay spoiler free and then losing my ability to get on the board did change my excitement and interest in the show. It's really nice when it's more of an overall experience than just an hour not even every week.

[Triligors]

FRAGILE SLIDES (http://www.nowcasting.com/sides/Episodic/SMALLVILLE/Fragile/)

[Serene]

FRAGILE SLIDES (http://www.nowcasting.com/sides/Episodic/SMALLVILLE/Fragile/)

Now *that's* a cool link to have. Reading through the sides from some of the other SV eps, it's really amazing how much the script gets changed by the time it actually airs.

Thanks, Triligors. :)

[AgentPat]

FRAGILE SLIDES (http://www.nowcasting.com/sides/Episodic/SMALLVILLE/Fragile/)Wow! There's a veritable treasure trove of show sides on that site. Not goin' anywhere for a while? LOL

Root:
http://www.nowcasting.com/sides/Episodic/

SV specific:
http://www.nowcasting.com/sides/Episodic/SMALLVILLE/

[mellyM]

From TVGuide.com:
Question: Can you tell me when Lana and Lex are going to hook up on Smallville?
Ausiello: According to my hairy Smallville mole —not to be confused with my small hairy mole — Lana plants a major lip-lock on Lex at the end of Episode 18. Coincidentally, that's the same episode that Tom Welling is directing, making the whole thing a little kinky.

Ok, how are they going to have Lana still want to be around Lex after she discovered he was willing to torture a human being because he could? Is she suddenly going to go all 'harlequin"? I hate when they attempt to force what they want to happen..because so far, it makes little sense

[Lara]

hmm so far she's acted disgusted when he's tired to kiss her. I've never seen a hint of chemistry and I'm not opposed to the pairing. I hope it doesn't seem forced.

[musclesforsupes]

Shout Out!:(

[avidreader]

From TVGuide.com:
Question: Can you tell me when Lana and Lex are going to hook up on Smallville?
Ausiello: According to my hairy Smallville mole —not to be confused with my small hairy mole — Lana plants a major lip-lock on Lex at the end of Episode 18. Coincidentally, that's the same episode that Tom Welling is directing, making the whole thing a little kinky.

Ok, how are they going to have Lana still want to be around Lex after she discovered he was willing to torture a human being because he could? Is she suddenly going to go all 'harlequin"? I hate when they attempt to force what they want to happen..because so far, it makes little sense

I must admit this is all making me feel a little uneasy. I hope they dont drag it out too long before Lana realises just who she's getting herself involved with.

I guess the one thing that I like about it is that we will have some sympathy for Clark, which I think has been lacking lately.

[The Incredible Hulk]

From TVGuide.com:
Question: Can you tell me when Lana and Lex are going to hook up on Smallville?
Ausiello: According to my hairy Smallville mole —not to be confused with my small hairy mole — Lana plants a major lip-lock on Lex at the end of Episode 18. Coincidentally, that's the same episode that Tom Welling is directing, making the whole thing a little kinky.

Ok, how are they going to have Lana still want to be around Lex after she discovered he was willing to torture a human being because he could? Is she suddenly going to go all 'harlequin"? I hate when they attempt to force what they want to happen..because so far, it makes little sense

romance rarely does...

[mellyM]

romance rarely does...
I'd like to think Lana wouldn't get involved with someone like Lex..I don't completely understand, especially after watching Commencement again recently (yay for marathons). I don't really understand what the attraction would be, especially coming from the secrets natzi..granted she's had a few of her own this season. I guess I'll just wait and see how it plays out, so far, I'm not really buying it from Lana's end. Lex at least has shown interest since day one.

[Kane]

I think it makes perfect sense though, Lana was just manipulated into it. Lex is a very smart man. Lana isnt a very smart girl. Lex is just taking advantage of the situation.

[Serene]

Ok, how are they going to have Lana still want to be around Lex after she discovered he was willing to torture a human being because he could? Is she suddenly going to go all 'harlequin"? I hate when they attempt to force what they want to happen..because so far, it makes little sense
I think they'll go the usual route and have him make up some flimsy but possible excuse, and have her believe him. They are friends. I can actually *see* and understand the Lex/Lana thing happening (I know there are people out there fainting :)). Of course, I MUCH prefer her with Clark, but from Lana's POV, Lex has always been there for her. Whether it's helping her secure the Talon and being her business partner, or saving her butt with the whole Genevieve thing, he's given her the impression of being her rock of reliability when she needs help. The other thing that he does, which is evil but genius, is he makes sure to constantly remind her that Clark is keeping things from her. He knows how to push the thorn in her side. Lex is a real player, and Lana is trusting, which makes her gullible.

Lex and Clark may not be friends anymore, but Lex and Lana's friendship is stronger than ever. Once Clark really breaks it off with her, it makes sense that she'd turn to the guy who's been there for her. I have no doubt that she will see his true colors in time though.

Part of me thinks that since she can never really have Clark, then she should just say "**** it," marry Lex, and become his evil partner in crime. But we're getting way into AU territory now.. :)

[AgentPat]

Part of me thinks that since she can never really have Clark, then she should just say "**** it," marry Lex, and become his evil partner in crime...Now THAT would be inspired TV. From your lips to the writers ears. That would be awesome!!! LOL

No, really! :D :up:

[Serene]

Now THAT would be inspired TV. From your lips to the writers ears. That would be awesome!!! LOL
But you KNOW that's not my first choice scenario. That one would blow a big raspberry at canon and have fanboys/girls keeling over with chest pains. <evil laughter>

But as a second choice, it would be kind of fun to see. :D

[avidreader]

^^^ Do you think that they will remain respectful to the character of Lana Lang though? She would never betray Clark.

I know all this Lexana stuff isnt betraying Clark, she's just acting on whatever it is she's acting on.

I would just like to think that when it comes to the crunch and she realises just how closely Lex has been investigating Clark, that she would do something to stick up for Clark and in turn betray Lex.

It could very well play out like the Lois and Lex relationship on Lois and Clark. Except we wont see Lex jump off the top of building.

[Serene]

^^^ Do you think that they will remain respectful to the character of Lana Lang though? She would never betray Clark.

I agree, it would be totally OOC.. I'm just funnin'. ;)

I know all this Lexana stuff isnt betraying Clark, she's just acting on whatever it is she's acting on.

I would just like to think that when it comes to the crunch and she realises just how closely Lex has been investigating Clark, that she would do something to stick up for Clark and in turn betray Lex.

I think it's going to play out exactly that way. She may even have to play along with being Lex's girlfriend for a while so that she can help Clark out from the inside. It'll be interesting to see.

[avidreader]

I agree, it would be totally OOC.. I'm just funnin'. ;)

I know you are. :) But there are alot out there who think and want it to happen that way.



I think it's going to play out exactly that way. She may even have to play along with being Lex's girlfriend for a while so that she can help Clark out from the inside. It'll be interesting to see.

I really, really hope so. It would add so much integrity to her character.

[Kane]

I doubt she could pull that off. Lex can tell when shes lying

[mellyM]

I think they'll go the usual route and have him make up some flimsy but possible excuse, and have her believe him. They are friends. I can actually *see* and understand the Lex/Lana thing happening (I know there are people out there fainting :)). Of course, I MUCH prefer her with Clark, but from Lana's POV, Lex has always been there for her. Whether it's helping her secure the Talon and being her business partner, or saving her butt with the whole Genevieve thing, he's given her the impression of being her rock of reliability when she needs help. The other thing that he does, which is evil but genius, is he makes sure to constantly remind her that Clark is keeping things from her. He knows how to push the thorn in her side. Lex is a real player, and Lana is trusting, which makes her gullible.

Lex and Clark may not be friends anymore, but Lex and Lana's friendship is stronger than ever. Once Clark really breaks it off with her, it makes sense that she'd turn to the guy who's been there for her. I have no doubt that she will see his true colors in time though.

Part of me thinks that since she can never really have Clark, then she should just say "**** it," marry Lex, and become his evil partner in crime. But we're getting way into AU territory now.. :)
Thats a good explanation, and you've definitely helped me see it clearer. I guess its just hard to imagine that she'd forget all the bad things she knows about Lex, even if they weren't done to her directly. I'd like to think Lana isn't quite that self-centered. But again we'll see. Personally, if someone I knew did what Lex did to that Cyborg kid, I'd want nothing to do with them, but thats just me I guess.

[Serene]

Thats a good explanation, and you've definitely helped me see it clearer. I guess its just hard to imagine that she'd forget all the bad things she knows about Lex, even if they weren't done to her directly. I'd like to think Lana isn't quite that self-centered. But again we'll see. Personally, if someone I knew did what Lex did to that Cyborg kid, I'd want nothing to do with them, but thats just me I guess.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, Melly. :confused:

Like I (thought I) said, Lex will schmooze her with "his" side of things, giving the story his own spin (I was saving the kids life...trying to help humanity in the long run..yadda yadda) and she'll likely buy it. I'm trying to remember what else he's done that was "evil" that she should already know about?

[avidreader]

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, Melly. :confused:

Like I (thought I) said, Lex will schmooze her with "his" side of things, giving the story his own spin (I was saving the kids life...trying to help humanity in the long run..yadda yadda) and she'll likely buy it. I'm trying to remember what else he's done that was "evil" that she should already know about?

Well she didnt know about aquadude. And I'm not sure Clark would have told her about the freaks in Mortal, 'cause then he would have to tell her why Lex thought to set him up in the first place.

[Kal-El 8]

From TVGuide.com:
Question: Can you tell me when Lana and Lex are going to hook up on Smallville?
Ausiello: According to my hairy Smallville mole —not to be confused with my small hairy mole — Lana plants a major lip-lock on Lex at the end of Episode 18. Coincidentally, that's the same episode that Tom Welling is directing, making the whole thing a little kinky.



Intresting .

[user123456789]

nooooooo lexana.......!

[KikiDee]

Thats a good explanation, and you've definitely helped me see it clearer. I guess its just hard to imagine that she'd forget all the bad things she knows about Lex, even if they weren't done to her directly. I'd like to think Lana isn't quite that self-centered. But again we'll see. Personally, if someone I knew did what Lex did to that Cyborg kid, I'd want nothing to do with them, but thats just me I guess.

I don't think she knew that Lex had anything to do with that. He claimed that the company was just acquisitioned and that he had no knowledge of the evil dr's doings. He always has a wonderful excuse and lots of sneaky ways of making it look like he's helping.

[tonytr1687]

You guys keep saying that you cant understand how Lana would just forget all the bad things Lex has done in the past. Well if you've been paying attention the last few episodes she's mentioned that she knows Lex has done questionable things in the past but that she still believes he's a good person deep down. Basically she's Clark from the first few seasons, she's the only one who doesnt treat Lex like some supervillian and thats one of the reasons why he's attracted to her. She hasn't given up on him like everyone else. So Lex loves her b/c of that, and Lana will begin to fall for him a little when she realizes that he is always there for her and, from her perspective, always tells her the truth. And you all also forget that the only "bad things" that she has been privy to concerning Lex are when he got Jason fired, and when he tried to take the stone from her. THATS IT. She never really got that irked from him lying to her about the ship b/c his reasons for it were genuine. And it's apparent that for some reason Clark hasn't told her that Lex was behind the events in Mortal, perhaps so as not to accidentally imply anything about his secret. Most likely the same is true for the events in Cyborg.

Anyway I think their relationship makes a lot of sense and there is some genuine attraction and/or love from both Lex and Lana. A lot of it stems from Lockdown and in that episode we saw just how much they have in common. They were both affected greatly by the meteor showers and so they share a common interest in finding out just what happened.

[mellyM]

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, Melly. :confused:

Like I (thought I) said, Lex will schmooze her with "his" side of things, giving the story his own spin (I was saving the kids life...trying to help humanity in the long run..yadda yadda) and she'll likely buy it. I'm trying to remember what else he's done that was "evil" that she should already know about?
I wasn;t being sarcastic

[Lara]

KK has said before that one of Lana's primary characteristics is loneliness lord knows it's the same with Lex in that way they are kinda kindred spirits. Then poor Lana has been rejected by Clark sexually that would have to be painful since he won't explain it. So here's Lex that wants her that she feels a connection with. I could see it happening. That's why I had hoped for some chemistry with thier kissing scenes a little temptation from Lana.

[avidreader]

Found this at Ksite.

TV Guide Episode Description.

A little girl who possesses telekinetic powers is befriended by Clark, who discovers the talent runs in her family and is tied to the first meteor shower; Lex and Lana get closer and Chloe doesn't like it. Tom Welling directed this episode.

I'm glad Chloe doesnt' like it. Does this mean that we'll get the cat fight I've been waiting for? :D

[avidreader]

From Ksite.

http://www.kryptonsite.com/fragiledescription.htm



TOM WELLING’S DIRECTORIAL DEBUT — Clark (Tom Welling) and Martha (Annette O’Toole) take in a little girl, Maddie (guest star Emily Herst), after her foster mother is brutally stabbed to death. However, after it is discovered that Maddie has the power to shatter glass, she becomes the prime suspect. Meanwhile, Chloe (Allison Mack) walks in on Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Lana (Kristin Kreuk) during an intimate moment... Erica Durance also stars. The episode was written by Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer and directed by Tom Welling (#2T6418).

I'm really looking forward to Chloe's reaction and I cant wait to see Tom's take on a Smallville episode.

[Super_Ludacris]

Looks interesting

[BaK]

You guys keep saying that you cant understand how Lana would just forget all the bad things Lex has done in the past. Well if you've been paying attention the last few episodes she's mentioned that she knows Lex has done questionable things in the past but that she still believes he's a good person deep down. Basically she's Clark from the first few seasons, she's the only one who doesnt treat Lex like some supervillian and thats one of the reasons why he's attracted to her. She hasn't given up on him like everyone else. So Lex loves her b/c of that, and Lana will begin to fall for him a little when she realizes that he is always there for her and, from her perspective, always tells her the truth. And you all also forget that the only "bad things" that she has been privy to concerning Lex are when he got Jason fired, and when he tried to take the stone from her. THATS IT. She never really got that irked from him lying to her about the ship b/c his reasons for it were genuine. And it's apparent that for some reason Clark hasn't told her that Lex was behind the events in Mortal, perhaps so as not to accidentally imply anything about his secret. Most likely the same is true for the events in Cyborg.

Anyway I think their relationship makes a lot of sense and there is some genuine attraction and/or love from both Lex and Lana. A lot of it stems from Lockdown and in that episode we saw just how much they have in common. They were both affected greatly by the meteor showers and so they share a common interest in finding out just what happened.
good points :up:

[rumpuso]

I wonder what if she is aware of the torture he inflicted on Aquadude; and how she'd feel about his deep down goodness after knowing that.

[Serene]

You guys keep saying that you cant understand how Lana would just forget all the bad things Lex has done in the past. Well if you've been paying attention the last few episodes she's mentioned that she knows Lex has done questionable things in the past but that she still believes he's a good person deep down.

I think you are on the right track, Tony, but that there's more to it than that.

I think that having Clark break up with her will leave her devastated (and understandable so!) particularly when this follows on the heels of him not wanting her physically anymore, then finding him with another woman, even though he apparently does explain that to her.. visually that has to leave a scar. She's going to be more vulnerable than she's ever been, and Lex has already laid the groundwork for him being the one who is honest with her and who would never betray her, unlike Clark.

I don't think it's inconceivable for her to be attracted to Lex, maybe not so much romantically as emotionally? The kicker is that she has always tried to see past the surface prejudices against Lex, and instead of living up to the man he could be for her, we know he'll go the other way. He really is his own worst enemy.

Anyway I think their relationship makes a lot of sense and there is some genuine attraction and/or love from both Lex and Lana. A lot of it stems from Lockdown and in that episode we saw just how much they have in common. They were both affected greatly by the meteor showers and so they share a common interest in finding out just what happened.

I saw a music vid recently that really nicely illustrated the common bonds shared by Lex and Lana, particularly regarding their pasts. It's an interesting relationship, and I'm still glad they're exploring it.

[KalKai]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/34/fragile11kx.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9192/fragile23hh.jpg

[avidreader]

Eeek!:eek:

How are you guys finding all this news at Ksite mixed in with all that fake stuff?

[triplet]

Eeek!:eek:

How are you guys finding all this news at Ksite mixed in with all that fake stuff?

You have to look around a bit, but here's the link:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news40106.htm

[avidreader]

You have to look around a bit, but here's the link:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news40106.htm

Thanks!:up:

[KalKai]

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[AgentPat]

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9291/029tvguideapril1016original4fe.jpgaHAH! NOW I get it.

[Don't mind me folks - just ruminating out loud]

BTW, he freakin' loves that silly cap, doesn't he? :p

[Super_Ludacris]

lol@ him trying so hard to look offical

[KalKai]

He does..

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9813/tw139g1sx1lx.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2949/twmtvtrlhi0929200300227kb.jpg

:D

[Kal-El 8]

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http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/2540/032tvguideapril10164ka.jpg

First The Father (John Schneider/Jonathan Kent ) {Season 3 [3.20] "Talisman"} - [Director]

Now The Son (Tom Welling/Clark Kent) {Season 5 [5.18] "Fragile"} - [Director]

[AgentPat]

lol@ him trying so hard to look officialOh, I dunno... maybe he looks "official" because he IS? :p

He's directing an episode of a show he arguably knows more about than anybody else. We're used to seeing him stand around and *take* direction, so it's odd to see him in a position of authority, but I've heard and read enough interviews with guest stars and other members of the cast that say he's almost too professional at times, and often helps to prod things along if they get bogged down.

That said, I'm sure he's got a LOT to learn about the craft from *behind* the camera. He's intelligent, has a level of professionalism that's clearly top shelf, and he knows the show and its characters inside and out, but how much he knows about directing - the creative and technical aspects such as tricks and techniques that come from both a formal education in the art as well as practice with a camera the better part of your life - remain to be seen. But hey, we all have to start somewhere. ;)

[rumpuso]

I hope there is some sort of interview with him so we can hear his thoughts on directing this episode. And by interview, I mean much more than just this snippet listed here.

Incidentally, I think he looks very handsome in his cap. Yum.

[Serene]

I hope there is some sort of interview with him so we can hear his thoughts on directing this episode. And by interview, I mean much more than just this snippet listed here.

Incidentally, I think he looks very handsome in his cap. Yum.

I'm really hoping that he gets out and promos this episode a bit. Even if it's just some more of the radio call-in interviews. If they are doing promo pics in TV Guide, then maybe they are going to push a bit for this one.. I hope.

And I think that picture is just ALL KINDS of yummy. Good lordy.. what he does with a casual outfit like that should be illegal. I like that intense look he has on his face.. or is it befuddled? LOL. Whatever.. I like it. ;)

[Super_Ludacris]

Obviously on the DVD to season 5 there will be

[Serene]

He does..

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9813/tw139g1sx1lx.jpg

Everytime I see that MTV picture I crack up.

Is he trying to look like David Duchovny in that first shot??? Or am I the only one seeing that?

[rumpuso]

What's he carrying around in the first director's picture?

I remember seeing pictuures of John Schneider directing Talisman and he dressed in a suit during the director's part of his job. I love that Tom isn't dressing up his appearance for directing. I imagine he thinks his work will speak for itself, not so much what he wears while he puts the episode together. THAT shows confidence right there.

(Of course I could be totally wrong. :O )

[AgentPat]

What's he carrying around in the first director's picture?Looks like part of the Clear-Com (http://www.clearcom.com/products/wireless/wireless.html) transmitter, or a similar system used on set for wireless communication. (You can see the BNC jacks, which appear to be unplugged.) We use 'em every day. :D :up:

[rumpuso]

Thank you Pat. :)

[SuperSoldier87]

I know pretty clear that this is a FOTW episode, but I have a feeling that there's gonna be a of alot of good subplots surrounding it like Hypnotic and Void. The last couples are getting pretty good, I can't for the season finale.

[SsM]

Lex losing his mind again do to good old Brainiac. Can you say "Lexiac". I thought it was luthiac... 0.o Guess it could go either way though I like lexiac better

[KalKai]

‘Smallville’ mom loves big role

Annette O'Toole talks about Tom's directorial debut:

“He did such a great job,” O’Toole said of Welling’s turn at the helm. “We were all like proud parents, just standing around beaming. He had to work a lot with this young girl, and he was so good with her. It was really fun to see, plus it was like cutting out the director as middleman. Tom would ask, ‘How did that feel to everybody?’ We’d say, ‘Great!’ then he’d say, ‘OK. We’re moving on.’ ”

Rest of the article here:

http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=134211&format=&page=1

[avidreader]

Way to go Tom. :up:

[The Master]

I soo can't wait for this episode

[Kane]

I sincerely hope its better than the last two weeks. Its good that TW is directing it, but I hope the script is decent...otherwise it wont pay off.

[GothicPowerMix1]

If John can get a good Episode to direct then so can Tom :up: I wonder if Tom got to pick what Episode he wanted to direct ?

[Kane]

Well the premise and spoilers for the episode sound pretty weak, but Ill give it the benefit of the doubt. What episode did Schiender direct?

[GothicPowerMix1]

What episode did Schiender direct?

Talisman I think

[Kane]

Ya. That wasnt bad. It was actually a somewhat important ep central to the story..

I think TW should have directed 'Mercy' instead. This episode sounds like a random irrelevant Krypto-freak episode for the main plot.

I dont think it will be that interesting of an episode...otherwise the WB wouldnt have thrown in clips from later epsidoes into the 'Fragile' promo. I just hope it isnt as weird as 'Tomb'

[GothicPowerMix1]

Like I said I wonder if Tom got to choose what Episode to direct

[triplet]

Talisman I think

Yeah, it was Talisman...

[Kane]

Like I said I wonder if Tom got to choose what Episode to direct

Prolly not.

[KikiDee]

Yeah, it was Talisman...

Do you know who the writers are for this ep?

[triplet]

Like I said I wonder if Tom got to choose what Episode to direct

I would like to think he did, but it could have come down to scheduling more than anything else....

He had to have an episode he wasn't going to be in much before the episode he directed because he would need to prepare for his helming duties. Void maybe was the one that gave him enough of a break...

However, he was originally skedded to do 19 instead of 18, so maybe it came down to choice, even if he could only choose from among two or three different scripts.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Fragile is one of the few in the entire series that has a kid as the guest star. Tom appreantly likes to work with kids (he did those two Cheaper by the Dozen films and apparently loved the kids). Maybe the kid was one reason why he directed it...

[GothicPowerMix1]

(he did those two Cheaper by the Dozen films and apparently loved the kids). Maybe the kid was one reason why he directed it...

I thought Tom wanted to work with Steve Martin which played a big reason in picking that role ?

[triplet]

Do you know who the writers are for this ep?

Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer....

*triplet groans*

Let's hope they do a little better job with this than they did with Hypnotic....

Yikes. :eek:

[triplet]

I thought Tom wanted to work with Steve Martin which played a big reason in picking that role ?

Yeah, it was but working with the kids was one thing he mentioned more than once as being one of the things he really enjoyed about the experience. The kids all said they loved working with him too.

[AgentPat]

...Tom apparently likes to work with kids...I've noticed this too. If you just look at the SV episodes where younger actors were involved, you can see the chemistry. He's really good working with younger actors. REALLY good, in fact. I hesitate to use another director whose good with kids as comparison, but it does have me anticipating this episode even more. We shall see.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Yeah, it was but working with the kids was one thing he mentioned more than once as being one of the things he really enjoyed about the experience. The kids all said they loved working with him too.

Ah okay

So Tom did the Movies to work with Steve Martin but ended up really liking working with Kids as well. Maybe he will team up with Eddie Murphy & Star with him in a Daddy Day Care Sequel :o

[triplet]

I've noticed this too. If you just look at the SV episodes where younger actors were involved, you can see the chemistry. He's really good working with younger actors. REALLY good, in fact. I hesitate to use another director whose good with kids as comparison, but it does have me anticipating this episode even more. We shall see.

Chris Columbus is close to being a hack but one thing he does well is work with kids...

So does Steven Spielberg.

A lot of directors I think are intimidated by kids because they're harder to work with. They just don't speak the same language as adult actors as far as the skills are concerned, I mean. Tom apparently has mastered that skill, so I think he'll be great.

I can't wait, especially given what Annette said about his work.

:up:

It's all good.

[AgentPat]

...So does Steven Spielberg...*cough*

Yes.

[KikiDee]

Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer....

*triplet groans*

Let's hope they do a little better job with this than they did with Hypnotic....

Yikes. :eek:

They have done some good episodes though. Do we know if they were trying out a new director with Hypnotic?

[triplet]

*cough*

Yes.

LOL!

He may be really good at this, you never know...

[avidreader]

They have done some good episodes though. Do we know if they were trying out a new director with Hypnotic?

I checked that out, after Triplet's comments ;) , and he directed one episode last year. Now I cant remember which one it was. :(

[triplet]

They have done some good episodes though. Do we know if they were trying out a new director with Hypnotic?

Hmmm.... Not brand new. He also directed Fanatic, but that wasn't a total success either....

In looking at his bio on TV.com, he spent most of career directing Canadian originated TV shows like First Wave.

Meh... I hope he doesn't come back.

[KikiDee]

I checked that out, after Triplet's comments ;) , and he directed one episode last year. Now I cant remember which one it was. :(
Now I can't even remember if I liked that one.

I agree with Trip though.

[Kane]

Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer....

*triplet groans*

Let's hope they do a little better job with this than they did with Hypnotic....

Yikes. :eek:

Oh gosh..

:down

Well no matter how bad the episode is, I guarantee you guys will defend it for one reason :rolleyes:

[GothicPowerMix1]

To be fair Crisis even bad Episodes can be redeemed by good moments if you ask me. Even if its One or Two

[Kane]

If the bad outweighs the good, its still a bad episode. I prefer SV episodes that I can watch with others and not be embarassed to show them. There are only a handful of really solid ones, the majority involve Lex *cough Memoria cough*

[GothicPowerMix1]

Like it has been said here before. Without Fine / Braniac Story. This Season would have sucked terribly

[KalKai]

You can't just take out a character and imagine the season without him/her. Besides, Fine's only been in 6-7 episodes, with 3 more left, Oracle and Vessel for sure, the other dunno.

[GothicPowerMix1]

You can't just take out a character and imagine the season without him/her.

Say's who ?

[Kane]

lol we just did. Ya Brainiac/Fine is my favorite SV character. Hes the ONLY one who hasnt been tainted yet with any bad storylines. Hes got alot of potential if they handle him right.

[KalKai]

lol you can say the same thing for other shows/movies then, it's just stupid though.

[Kane]

Not really. Hes a new character. Since we have 4 seasons without him, its easy to imagine the condition of the show without him there.

[KalKai]

We'd have someone else if it wasn't for him. They always bring someone new.

[Kane]

Better than Brainiac? Who else could they have brought in

[The Sage]

If the bad outweighs the good, its still a bad episode. I prefer SV episodes that I can watch with others and not be embarassed to show them. There are only a handful of really solid ones, the majority involve Lex *cough Memoria cough*

Become my Apprentice.:doom:

[Kane]

We already got a Dr Doom on SHH...and hes trouble.

[The Sage]

We already got a Dr Doom on SHH...and hes trouble.

Doom is weak. Join the Sage. I will complete your training.:up:

[Brainiac 8]

lol we just did. Ya Brainiac/Fine is my favorite SV character. Hes the ONLY one who hasnt been tainted yet with any bad storylines. Hes got alot of potential if they handle him right.

Wait till you find out he ultimatly trying to expose Clark to pink Kryptonite, for some Clarkiac action!:eek:

I wouldn't be too wild about that episode.:(

[Kane]

Wait till you find out he ultimatly trying to expose Clark to pink Kryptonite, for some Clarkiac action!:eek:

I wouldn't be too wild about that episode.:(

Well as long as Brainiac doesnt turn into a sex slave and take off his clothes, he'll still maintain his dignity and remain untainted.

Probably the worst thing they could do for Brainiac is make him simply a tool of Zod.

[Serene]

Wait till you find out he ultimatly trying to expose Clark to pink Kryptonite, for some Clarkiac action!:eek:

I wouldn't be too wild about that episode.:(

LOL...
I'm pretty sure I'd tune in. ;)

[avidreader]

LOL...
I'm pretty sure I'd tune in. ;)

Is Brainiac in this episode?

[triplet]

LOL...
I'm pretty sure I'd tune in. ;)

Yeah, me too... :D

:up:

[triplet]

They posted the trailer, still has that stuff that looks like it's more from Fade and Mercy in it however...

Odd.

Anyway, either click the link to open it automatically or right click and save target as to save it to your hard drive....

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/thewb/us/content/T8R5K7_SM518-trl_qt_300.mov

[KalKai]

You can't blame them, they aren't gonna show that little girl, it's all about Lexana and Lionel knowing Clark's secret.

[Brainiac 8]

Well as long as Brainiac doesnt turn into a sex slave and take off his clothes, he'll still maintain his dignity and remain untainted.

Probably the worst thing they could do for Brainiac is make him simply a tool of Zod.

Actually, I could see them going that direction. I'd be ok with it, because ultimately, Brainiac would come out on top using his superior intellect.:up: :D


LOL...
I'm pretty sure I'd tune in. ;)


Yeah, me too... :D

:up:


You two are wierd......I like it!:eek: :D

[rumpuso]

They posted the trailer, still has that stuff that looks like it's more from Fade and Mercy in it however...

Odd.
That is peculiar. Hope that isn't a bad sign, a la "The Fog" (when it wasn't even previewed by the critics). Btw, how does everyone know that this trailer has Fade and Mercy scenes in it?

Thanks for the link Triplet. Great trailer.

[Serene]

In that trailer clip, Lionel says to Clark, "To reveal your secret would change your destiny.." Anyone else think it's a little chilling and suspicious for Lionel to be talking about "destiny" with Clark? Hmm..

And that scene where Lois and Lana walk into that room and <seem to> surprise Clark. Lois has a very amused look on her face. I'm dying to know why.

[KalKai]

Btw, how does everyone know that this trailer has Fade and Mercy scenes in it?

Clark is saving Graham's life in the trailer (Fade) and the Martha/Lionel scenes are from Mercy.

Fragile is all about some telekinetic girl and Lexana.

[rumpuso]

Clark is saving Graham's life in the trailer (Fade) and the Martha/Lionel scenes are from Mercy.

Fragile is all about some telekinetic girl and Lexana.
Thank you. :)

[Kane]

In that trailer clip, Lionel says to Clark, "To reveal your secret would change your destiny.." Anyone else think it's a little chilling and suspicious for Lionel to be talking about "destiny" with Clark? Hmm..


Its gotta be Jor-El

[Kane]

Actually, I could see them going that direction. I'd be ok with it, because ultimately, Brainiac would come out on top using his superior intellect.:up: :D


Hopefully, as long as Brainiac isnt simply a puppet.

[Serene]

It's a bird, it's a plane.. it's a.. little uncoordinated looking. :D

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/306/fade1qa.png

[Kane]

How are the ppl in the vicinity not seeing that?

[rumpuso]

How are the ppl in the vicinity not seeing that?
I bet this scene is in slow mo and Clark is moving too fast for the eye to see.

[Super_Ludacris]

Looks like Eek the Cat with a cape

[avidreader]

In that trailer clip, Lionel says to Clark, "To reveal your secret would change your destiny.." Anyone else think it's a little chilling and suspicious for Lionel to be talking about "destiny" with Clark? Hmm..

Very chilling, and if it is Jor-el wouldnt he just reveal himself. Looking forward to more of that.

And that scene where Lois and Lana walk into that room and <seem to> surprise Clark. Lois has a very amused look on her face. I'm dying to know why.

I hope that part is in this episode, this may lead to why Lana's not talking to Clark.

I get the feeling that maybe Lois sets it up to get them back together.

[avidreader]

Here ya go.

http://www.tv.com/smallville/show/1718/videos.html

Thanks James. :up: :)

[triplet]

Very chilling, and if it is Jor-el wouldnt he just reveal himself. Looking forward to more of that.



I hope that part is in this episode, this may lead to why Lana's not talking to Clark.

I get the feeling that maybe Lois sets it up to get them back together.

I think that scene where Lois and Lana interrupt Clark comes after the scene that you posted a link to on TV.com....

It looks like Clark is in Lana's dorm room and maybe he'd found those "government" documents that Lex entrusted to Lana...

It's mighty suspicious what Lex might be giving to her to keep... I betcha it ain't good and it'll make Clark very unhappy, whatever it is. (I bet the documents came from Fine.)

It'll be great.

Lana will get mad at Clark; Clark will get mad at Lana and Lex both; and Milton Fine will just sit back and watch the pretty fireworks as Clark's life starts to disintegrate around him and he becomes paranoid for real....

I can't wait!

:D :up:

[avidreader]

I think that scene where Lois and Lana interrupt Clark comes after the scene that avid posted a link to on TV.com....

It looks like Clark is in Lana's dorm room and maybe he'd found those "government" documents that Lex entrusted to Lana...

It's mighty suspicious what Lex might be giving to her to keep... I betcha it ain't good and it'll make Clark very unhappy, whatever it is. (I bet the documents came from Fine.)

It'll be great.

Lana will get mad at Clark; Clark will get mad at Lana and Lex both; and Milton Fine will just sit back and watch the pretty fireworks as Clark's life starts to disintegrate around him and he becomes paranoid for real....

I can't wait!

:D :up:

That's exactly what I was thinking. :up:

[triplet]

That's exactly what I was thinking. :up:

Fine is weving a very tangled web and Clark is caught in the middle and he doesn't even know it yet!

:D

I can't wait to see what Fine's really up to...

:up:

[avidreader]

Fine is weving a very tangled web and Clark is caught in the middle and he doesn't even know it yet!

:D

I can't wait to see what Fine's really up to...

:up:

I know its so devious. I'm still wondering if he is even in this episode.

I've also been wondering, after seeing that clip, if perhaps Lana is going to be playing both Lex and Clark. She knows that something is amiss between the two of them, and she had such a determined look of I'm gonna get to the bottom of all this in Void last week.

Its really got me wondering obviously, 'cause that's the third time I've used that word in this post.

[Super_Ludacris]

Nah they havent done anything to prove Lana is that clever otherwise. Be great if she did though

[Kane]

Ya Lana isnt being that duplicitous. Shes clearly developed feelings for Lex. Theres no way in hell shes smarter than him and Lex is totally playing her and manipulating her.

[Super_Ludacris]

But again like I said in the another thread..........it would be ill if Lana-Fu played him

*shows intense anime face*

[avidreader]

But again like I said in the another thread..........it would be ill if Lana-Fu played him

*shows intense anime face*

Just look at the twitch in her face when Lex asks her if she trusts him.

[Kane]

I dont think she has enough reason to go against Lex at this point. Hes pretty much saved her a$$ more than once and she tried to save his in Lockdown. Her feelings are likely geniune.

[Super_Ludacris]

lol

[avidreader]

She wants the truth and I thought that at the end of Void she'd made a personal deal with herself that she'll do whatever it takes to get it. She knows Lex has feelings for her and I think she's going to use that to her advantage.

Think back to Void when Lex was having the punch up with Lance, Lana just grabbed the serum and ran. Left Lex to his own devices. When Clark was getting done by Lance, Lana hung around to make sure Clark was alright.

I'm sorry, but girls feelings dont change that quickly in the space of a couple weeks.

[KikiDee]

She wants the truth and I thought that at the end of Void she'd made a personal deal with herself that she'll do whatever it takes to get it. She knows Lex has feelings for her and I think she's going to use that to her advantage.

Think back to Void when Lex was having the punch up with Lance, Lana just grabbed the serum and ran. Left Lex to his own devices. When Clark was getting done by Lance, Lana hung around to make sure Clark was alright.

I'm sorry, but girls feelings dont change that quickly in the space of a couple weeks.

I gotta go with you on this one. I think there way more to this relationship than just a rebound fling.

[Kane]

Think back to Void when Lex was having the punch up with Lance, Lana just grabbed the serum and ran. Left Lex to his own devices. When Clark was getting done by Lance, Lana hung around to make sure Clark was alright.


She was messed up on the drugs....she wasnt herself at all though.

[avidreader]

She was messed up on the drugs....she wasnt herself at all though.

She wasnt messed up enough to know that she needed to get rid of Lance and to make sure Clark was okay.

I gotta go with you on this one. I think there way more to this relationship than just a rebound fling.

Must be a girl thing. :)

[Kane]

She wasnt messed up enough to know that she needed to get rid of Lance and to make sure Clark was okay.


She was messed up enough to miss Clark use his superstrength to throw Lance across the room......unless she dismissed his strength as the result of hypnotism..

[avidreader]

She was messed up enough to miss Clark use his superstrength to throw Lance across the room......unless she dismissed his strength as the result of hypnotism..

She had her back turned, so she didnt see what took place. She does know that Clark's a pretty strong guy, but lately she hasnt been questioning any of his unusual abilitites.

[Kane]

She had her back turned, so she didnt see what took place. She does know that Clark's a pretty strong guy, but lately she hasnt been questioning any of his unusual abilitites.

Thats pretty weak. Even if I had my back turned, I would have realized Lance suddenly now halfway across the room on the floor with whatever he was thrown into now broken.

[Serene]

Just look at the twitch in her face when Lex asks her if she trusts him.

I saw that! I wonder how intentional that was??? Maybe Tom told her to do that, or maybe it was just a natural reaction.

[GothicPowerMix1]

So you guys think Lana is thinking something like

Hmm Clark won't be honest with me so maybe I will use the guy who has the resources & he wants to know Clarks Secret just as much as I do & he has the Money & Resources & all that other stuff to find out about Clark then screw the bald guy over in the end to help Clark.

Thats not exactly the best thing in the end

[Serene]

^ I don't think that at all.

I think that right now Lana honestly considers Lex a friend and a partner who trusts her and makes her feel wanted. I hope that she wises up about him at some point and starts playing him to try and protect Clark, but I don't think she's at that point yet. I still think she is sincerely trying to trust him because she wants to get to the bottom of the alien ship mystery.

The "twitch" makes me suspicious that she has at least some inner reluctance to trusting him completely, even though she'd like to.

[Kane]

^ I don't think that at all.

I think that right now Lana honestly considers Lex a friend and a partner who trusts her and makes her feel wanted. I hope that she wises up about him at some point and starts playing him to try and protect Clark, but I don't think she's at that point yet. I still think she is sincerely trying to trust him because she wants to get to the bottom of the alien ship mystery.

The "twitch" makes me suspicious that she has at least some inner reluctance to trusting him completely, even though she'd like to.

Or maybe KK just got a twitch?


Actually the part I bolded that you said actually makes sense. I dont think Lana would sleep with Lex just to learn Clark's secrets...:down She obviously likes Lex (or was manipulated by him)...either way you look at it.

[avidreader]

^ I don't think that at all.

I think that right now Lana honestly considers Lex a friend and a partner who trusts her and makes her feel wanted. I hope that she wises up about him at some point and starts playing him to try and protect Clark, but I don't think she's at that point yet. I still think she is sincerely trying to trust him because she wants to get to the bottom of the alien ship mystery.

The "twitch" makes me suspicious that she has at least some inner reluctance to trusting him completely, even though she'd like to.

I'm not sure what to think, but I agree she doesnt fully trust him, or maybe she's hesitant to trust anyone after what she's been through.

We've heard Chloe say in the trailer that Lex is a predator, maybe she wisens Lana up on a few things. Cause that kiss at the end is so unnatural. It doesnt seem to be precipitated by a tender moment between the two of them.

And I still cant get past what I've read on the script for Fade, about Lana covering the lie thats eating away at her.

[Kane]

I dont see the necessity of going to Lex to find Clark's secrets or trying to keep Clark's secret safe. Clark currently isnt even in any danger from Lex. Her whole endeavor would be pointless.

If she really cared that much, she'd be sleeping with Lionel....hes the real threat.

[avidreader]

I dont see the necessity of going to Lex to find Clark's secrets or trying to keep Clark's secret safe. Clark currently isnt even in any danger from Lex. Her whole endeavor would be pointless.

If she really cared that much, she'd be sleeping with Lionel....hes the real threat.

I dont think anyone is specifically saying that at this point in time, but maybe in two or three episodes she might.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Hey does anyone know if we will SEE Clark tell Martha what Jonathan told him about Lionel knowing ? It would suck if the Episode started & Martha already knows what Jonathan told Clark

[avidreader]

Hey does anyone know if we will SEE Clark tell Martha what Jonathan told him about Lionel knowing ? It would suck if the Episode started & Martha already knows what Jonathan told Clark

He tells her in the next episode, Mercy.

[jr24tw]

I dont see the necessity of going to Lex to find Clark's secrets or trying to keep Clark's secret safe. Clark currently isnt even in any danger from Lex. Her whole endeavor would be pointless.

If she really cared that much, she'd be sleeping with Lionel....hes the real threat.
Why does everything Lana does have to do with Clark? Lana still hasn't figured out the alien and spaceship problem. She doesn't know Clark is that much a part of it. For now Lana might just be after what she has wanted to know all season. Of course that will eventually lead her to Clark...

[GothicPowerMix1]

If she really cared that much, she'd be sleeping with Lionel....hes the real threat.

Marthas the one hanging with Lionel :o

[tonytr1687]

Wow, all of you will do anything to try and rationalize Lana getting with Lex. Isn't it possible that Lana has just had secret feelings for him all this time, and even she didnt admit it to herself...until now? I mean there's been more than one occasion when Lana has had her inhibitions released somehow and she's flirted with Lex. In my opinion the two of them being into each other makes perfect sense. Lana wants to feel safe and be with someone who has been there for her through thick and thin (sorta like the whole "friend-turned-love interest who has been right under your nose" idea), and Lex is drawn to her b/c she's the only person who doesnt treat him like an untrustworthy criminal (even if that's what he is, he doesn't think so)...plus he's into brunettes. And they have one big thing in common: both of their lives have been impacted a lot by the meteor shower.

[Super_Ludacris]

I would have thought so, that's why I thought the Lana-Lex angle works. Its not that much of a strech

[avidreader]

I would have thought so, that's why I thought the Lana-Lex angle works. Its not that much of a strech

Its not that much of a stretch if it happened six months down the road. But last week we have her finding her parents in the after life and the first thing she says to them is that I loved him so much.

Then at the end of the episode she makes this personal pact with herself that she's not going to let herself be in a position of vulnerability again.

It just doesnt gel with me that she falls into Lex's arms so quickly.

[Super_Ludacris]

who knows how the exact timeline episode to episode is sometimes

[GothicPowerMix1]

Then at the end of the episode she makes this personal pact with herself that she's not going to let herself be in a position of vulnerability again

To bad she don't know the real Lex because that is exactly what she is doing wether she know's it or not by getting with him. She is setting herself up to disappointed :o

[avidreader]

who knows how the exact timeline episode to episode is sometimes

I think its pretty much on the same time line, maybe a few weeks pass but not months.

To bad she don't know the real Lex because that is exactly what she is doing wether she know's it or not by getting with him. She is setting herself up to disappointed :o

That's the point of what I'm saying though. I dont believe she's going to let herself be in that position again, especially so quickly.

[jr24tw]

The girl, Lois and Clark...

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8022/fragile0005rx.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1873/fragile0015nv.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7537/fragile0028qf.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4745/fragile0030zh.jpg

[Serene]

Thanks, Jana!

I was just going to PM you to ask if I could post your link to that clip here.

So..um.. can I? :)

[KalKai]

Of course you can Serene,

http://rapidshare.de/files/17855959/smallville_supernatural.wmv.html

lol.

Thanks Jana.

[jr24tw]

Of course you can Serene,

http://rapidshare.de/files/17855959/smallville_supernatural.wmv.html

lol.

Thanks Jana.

I thought I was supposed to answer that. :p And someone's been to my journal I see. And not linking back to it like I asked. j/k Since it's obvious who it's from lol.

[Serene]

I thought I was supposed to answer that. :p And someone's been to my journal I see. And not linking back to it like I asked. j/k Since it's obvious who it's from lol.

Hey! I asked first!
KalKai always beats everyone to the punch though. :P

Do you want your LJ linked here? I always think of LJ's as being sorta personal ground and not really forum-friendly, which is why I didn't go ahead and post the link to yours here.

[jr24tw]

Do you want your LJ linked here? I always think of LJ's as being sorta personal ground and not really forum-friendly, which is why I didn't go ahead and post the link to yours here.

Well my LJ isn't used for personal stuff if you really check it out. It's purely a sharing kinda thing. Pictures, videos, caps etc. People can repost whatever they want wherever they want as long as they link back to it. I don't think that's too much to ask. Websites expect the same to be done after all. And hey I'm always up for suggestions. So if anyone is in need of anything I'll do what I can to provide the info, video or pic.

If you want a Tom pic for example untagged (because tagged pics are forbidden or whatever)to post it here on this board or somewhere else just let me know somehow.

Contrary to common believe I'm not a b****. I can be nice sometimes. When I want to. :p

[Serene]

Contrary to common believe I'm not a b****. I can be nice sometimes. When I want to. :p

Well then you definitely fit right in here. I'm nice too.. sometimes. :D

[rumpuso]

Consider me completely computer backwards, because I cannot for the life of me figure out how to download that link above. Too many options and nothing obvious telling me how.

[jr24tw]

Consider me completely computer backwards, because I cannot for the life of me figure out how to download that link above. Too many options and nothing obvious telling me how.

Try this one. Not sure if it's still working.

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ALTQ5RHIPI9E2JXA0RQAQD63A

[rumpuso]

Try this one. Not sure if it's still working.

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ALTQ5RHIPI9E2JXA0RQAQD63A
Thank you so much! This one worked and was much easier for me to figure out. I really appreciate it.

[jr24tw]

Thank you so much! This one worked and was much easier for me to figure out. I really appreciate it.

No problem. At least now you got to see it.:)

[avidreader]

Contrary to common believe I'm not a b****. I can be nice sometimes. When I want to. :p

Hey, its always great to have some female company around here, no matter what our mood. :D

[jr24tw]

Hey, its always great to have some female company around here, no matter what our mood. :D

Uh oh...should I be scared?

[avidreader]

Uh oh...should I be scared?

Nah, we're harmless. Well I am at least. ;)

[jr24tw]

^^That's good to know.

A woman has the right to be pissed off...right? Because I'm pissed off now. People get the credit at a certain site named DTS for a tip they had nothing to do with. Hadn't James posted the new trailer on his site they wouldn't even have known it existed. Therefore the credit should go to me for it on their page but no...argh whatever. Those little fans just want some attention on the main page. I wouldn't be suprised if the little fan even mentioned TW.org yet they forgot to mention that little detail in the news post. Grrr....

[musclesforsupes]

I think tonights episode will suck probably, looks like another "kid with a tumor in his head like season " :(

[musclesforsupes]

2 :d

[avidreader]

^^That's good to know.

A woman has the right to be pissed off...right? Because I'm pissed off now. People get the credit at a certain site named DTS for a tip they had nothing to do with. Hadn't James posted the new trailer on his site they wouldn't even have known it existed. Therefore the credit should go to me for it on their page but no...argh whatever. Those little fans just want some attention on the main page. I wouldn't be suprised if the little fan even mentioned TW.org yet they forgot to mention that little detail in the news post. Grrr....

I just saw that. Dont worry, I think most people are aware of what they're up to.

I think tonights episode will suck probably, looks like another "kid with a tumor in his head like season " :(

How can you say that? Our number one man is directing this episode, and from what I've seen so far, it looks pretty good.

[Kane]

Almost on. Im going to watch it all the way through and then comment, paying very close attention to the direction style. I hope its a decent ep.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Yeah should be interesting since it is Tom Welling Directing. I liked Talisman (John S. directed that) so I hope this is decent

[KalKai]

Good, I hate it when people comment during the ep, they might miss some stuff and not pay enough attention.

[GothicPowerMix1]

lol I comment if cool stuff happens :up:

[KalKai]

I don't think it'll be good as Talisman, there's a FoTW in this 1.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Haha I liked that Intro

"Tonights Episode is Directed by Tom Welling"

[KalKai]

lol nice

[KalKai]

Dnsk are you "i8z"?

[GothicPowerMix1]

Tom Welling must be a fan of the Show Supernatural :up: That whole thing with the House reminded me of some Episodes

[GothicPowerMix1]

Dnsk are you "i8z"?

Huh ? Whos that ? & um no definitely not

[KalKai]

k lol.

[boyscouT.]

That opening was very unique, you can definately tell someone "new" is directing (even though they announced TW is).

Some of the close-up shots were anti climatic though, imo. And... 3-4 minutes to show us that the girl can break glass and kill the mother in the process... that's 3-4 minutes less of SV.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Wow Clark does not trust Lionel that is cool they are keeping up with the Story Lines :up: That rarely happens

[Kaboom]

i bet trip, pat, avid, and serence would love to watch TW wag his tail

[GothicPowerMix1]

lol @ Toms look when Lois said

"I'm the one with the little Sister"

[boyscouT.]

Wow excellent writing so far.

[Kaboom]

boyscout? 7 posts? what happened?

[GothicPowerMix1]

Lois is almost annoying so far :o

[boyscouT.]

boyscout? 7 posts? what happened?
Diff alias. This one has an '.' at the end. Yea, I guess I have to start over.

[Lightspeed]

Man I am pissed off. I live in the St. Louis area and they are showing a friggin Blues game instead of Smallville. Smallville won't air until Saturday. Guess Ill be downloading tonight :mad: :down

[GothicPowerMix1]

This Episode is not that bad at all. Aside from Lois I like it so far

[Kane]

Wow commericals are taking so long. Okay I have to chime in.

TW looks so much older now. He couldnt pass for an 18 year old in a million years... but I like it. I think hes getting screwed over playing a teenager. He even had a 5'oclock shadow in this ep.

I find Lois/Erica ugly and annoying. I hate seeing closeups of her. That girl should have killed her.

The ep itself seems like a typical FOTW episode.

The beginning was stupid, the mother kept staring at the mirror..knowing it would break. She should have ran out of the house.

[Kaboom]

i like lois but she is kind of annoying me

[Kaboom]

soul vision! new power this episode

[GothicPowerMix1]

soul vision! new power this episode

lol

[GothicPowerMix1]

Ah there's the bad man

[Kaboom]

This episode brought to you by AOL

[GothicPowerMix1]

lol Chloe = OWNED by Lex

[Kaboom]

dude...that commercial was awesome!

[Kane]

CHLOE IS SO ANNOYING


but lol she got owned.

I have my own theory why birdface never had a boyfriend....

Shes a lesbian.

She needs to come out of the closet....season 6.


Im liking this ep so far just because of Lex :)

[GYUVER]

Chole got pwned!!! I actualy was cheering for the new badass Lex. He put Chole on her emotional knees. Lex just got back his pimp status...yeah!

[boyscouT.]

Woohoo short commercial!

[GothicPowerMix1]

So this guy has the same Power

[boyscouT.]

Wow... that wasn't Clark, that was Superman owning that mofo.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Ah now Lex is pitting Lana against Chloe

I love this guy :up:

He's a bastard :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Easily the most boring episode of the season...

[GothicPowerMix1]

Okay there will be a Round Two

[Kaboom]

thats why people wear soft contact lenses...for situations just like that

[GothicPowerMix1]

^ lol

[Kane]

Easily the most boring episode of the season...

There have been several boring eps.

This one is getting stupid though, writing wise....


So they let this FOTW walk free from Belle Reeve even though they knew he had dangerous powers!?!?

Hes also another FOTW whos witnessed Clark's powers but doesnt seem to care or reveal it to others.... :rolleyes:

[GothicPowerMix1]

Hes also another FOTW whos witnessed Clark's powers but doesnt seem to care or reveal it to others.... :rolleyes:

Hes a Freak with Powers. Whod believe him ? Aside from Lex, Lionel & the Other Freaks ?

[GothicPowerMix1]

So the saving grace of this Episode = Bad Ass, Bastard Lex

[Kaboom]

and everyone else in level 33.1

[Kane]

Hes a Freak with Powers. Whod believe him ? Aside from Lex, Lionel & the Other Freaks ?

Well the ppl of the town of Smallville are pretty stupid. Besides they know Fotws exist....yet they just allow them to walk free...nice.


This ep started off good. Lex's line at Chloe made me laugh....

But the Maddie story really sucks, shes annoying.


Clark officially thinks Jor-El is a bastard...nice.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Neat effects with the Glass

[Colossal Spoons]

There have been several boring eps.

This one is getting stupid though, writing wise....



True, but I've never wished for an episode to be over before.

And is this chick related to the girl who plays Hermione in Harry Potter?

[boyscouT.]

And is this chick related to the girl who plays Hermione in Harry Potter?

No.

[GothicPowerMix1]

Chloe just lied to Clark. That ***** :down:(:down

[Colossal Spoons]

No.


Was this discussed already?

[Kane]

And is this chick related to the girl who plays Hermione in Harry Potter?

She looks like Hermione with downs syndrome. I really didnt like her. Ive seen some decent kid actors but she wasnt one of them.

[Kaboom]

youve been hit by youve been struck by a smooooooooooooooth criminal

[Kane]

Chloe just lied to Clark. That ***** :down:(:down

This is Smallville. Everyone lies. -_-

[GothicPowerMix1]

Lana & Lex basically doing what Lana & Clark went through :o Except Lex trusts her

[GothicPowerMix1]

The TV Version of Saw !!!!!!!!!!!

[Morg]

bleah, this week another filler? Lana tells Chloe not to embarrassed her? Excuse me Lana you did that yourself last week!

[tonytr1687]

Call me dispicable but I was totally rooting for Lex in this episode. First he owns Chloe, then he's able to tell Lana that they're just friends right before laying a kiss on her and basically winning her over. I think the deal here is Lana doesnt want to admit that she has feelings for Lex (thats why she keeps saying nothing could be between them), even to herself. That last scene shows she's just started to do that. I dont think it's a matter of her being vulnerable or wanting to hurt Clark at all.

Anyway I guess I'm the only one who liked the little girl and thought she did a good job. Lois was definitely annoying though. And it looks like the Clark/Chloe vs. Lex/Lana war has begun.

[Kane]

Ok. Review time, before I try to forget this episode.

The Pros

- Lex. End of Story. Lex was the saving grace of the episode. Him owning Chloe made me laugh.

- Lexana is real. No duplicitous plot on the part of Lana....the two are really into each other.

The Cons

- The Maddie plot. It wasnt very groundbreaking and the end was VERY cliched. The way the mother died in the opening was pretty stupid too, she stared at that mirror for such a long time before it blew up (and she knew it would). She should have ran. I also didnt like how Maddie's powers seemed stronger than her fathers in the final scene, he should have been able to take her...hes a full mutant, shes the child..2nd generation...the power shouldnt be as strong.

- Lois and Chloe both annoyed me in this episode. I honestly think Clark deserves way better than the 2 of them.

- Clark saying how awful Jor-El is... :down and the theme that you dont have to be like your biological parents. I hate how they always paint Jor-El as a bastard. Brando is spinning in his grave.

- The whole thing with the FOTW being allowed to walk free from Belle Reeve is ridiculous, especially when they know how dangerous his powers are..

Other Observations

- The direction was nothing stellar. Looked like a typical episode, though that final ending scene was a bit overdone. They made it seem like Maddie has some kind of importance in the story, like the Flash.... but who knows, maybe the SV Superman's JLA will be filled with FOTWs.

- Tom does not look anywhere close to 18. He really shouldnt be playing a teenager. I kinda wish this show was adult superman-centered from the start....or at least jumped some years ahead.

- My theory is Chloe is a closet lesbian. She doesnt seem to look gifthorses in the mouth either. Lex could have killed her so many times, especially after the last season finale.....but she still continues to try to act like shes threatening to him...plz

Overall this episode kinda sucked.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/623690501_l.jpg


I give it 1.5 out of 5 pieces of broken glass. Hopefully next week is a vast improvement.

I expected Fragile to suck based on how WB filled its Fragile promo with footage mainly from other episodes.

[Kane]

bleah, this week another filler? Lana tells Chloe not to embarrassed her? Excuse me Lana you did that yourself last week!

LOL true that.

[GothicPowerMix1]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/623690501_l.jpg

lmfao

[tonytr1687]

Ok. Review time, before I try to forget this episode.

The Pros

- Lex. End of Story. Lex was the saving grace of the episode. Him owning Chloe made me laugh.

- Lexana is real. No duplicitous plot on the part of Lana....the two are really into each other.

The Cons

- The Maddie plot. It wasnt very groundbreaking and the end was VERY cliched. The way the mother died in the opening was pretty stupid too, she stared at that mirror for such a long time before it blew up (and she knew it would). She should have ran. I also didnt like how Maddie's powers seemed stronger than her fathers in the final scene, he should have been able to take her...hes a full mutant, shes the child..2nd generation...the power shouldnt be as strong.

- Lois and Chloe both annoyed me in this episode. I honestly think Clark deserves way better than the 2 of them.

- Clark saying how awful Jor-El is... :down and the theme that you dont have to be like your biological parents. I hate how they always paint Jor-El as a bastard. Brando is spinning in his grave.

- The whole thing with the FOTW being allowed to walk free from Belle Reeve is ridiculous, especially when they know how dangerous his powers are..

Other Observations

- The direction was nothing stellar. Looked like a typical episode, though that final ending scene was a bit overdone. They made it seem like Maddie has some kind of importance in the story, like the Flash.... but who knows, maybe the SV Superman's JLA will be filled with FOTWs.

- Tom does not look anywhere close to 18. He really shouldnt be playing a teenager. I kinda wish this show was adult superman-centered from the start....or at least jumped some years ahead.

- My theory is Chloe is a closet lesbian. She doesnt seem to look gifthorses in the mouth either. Lex could have killed her so many times, especially after the last season finale.....but she still continues to try to act like shes threatening to him...plz

Overall this episode kinda sucked.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/623690501_l.jpg


I give it 1.5 out of 5 pieces of broken glass. Hopefully next week is a vast improvement.

I expected Fragile to suck based on how WB filled its Fragile promo with footage mainly from other episodes.

I swear ,you guys here are starting to sound a little like the "FOTW racists" on Smallville. They explained in the episode that the ppl at Bell Reeve thought the guy was mentally cured. Maybe the doctors there are like Clark and try to see the good in ppl? It's obvious the guy probably faked his "goodness" and thats why he was released. The doctors cant keep him there just b/c he has powers.

I agree though about the mother just standing there before she was killed, and then Maddie somehow being more powerful than her father.

[TwilightPro101]

Ok. Review time, before I try to forget this episode.

The Pros

- Lex. End of Story. Lex was the saving grace of the episode. Him owning Chloe made me laugh.

- Lexana is real. No duplicitous plot on the part of Lana....the two are really into each other.

The Cons

- The Maddie plot. It wasnt very groundbreaking and the end was VERY cliched. The way the mother died in the opening was pretty stupid too, she stared at that mirror for such a long time before it blew up (and she knew it would). She should have ran. I also didnt like how Maddie's powers seemed stronger than her fathers in the final scene, he should have been able to take her...hes a full mutant, shes the child..2nd generation...the power shouldnt be as strong.

- Lois and Chloe both annoyed me in this episode. I honestly think Clark deserves way better than the 2 of them.

- Clark saying how awful Jor-El is... :down and the theme that you dont have to be like your biological parents. I hate how they always paint Jor-El as a bastard. Brando is spinning in his grave.

- The whole thing with the FOTW being allowed to walk free from Belle Reeve is ridiculous, especially when they know how dangerous his powers are..

Other Observations

- The direction was nothing stellar. Looked like a typical episode, though that final ending scene was a bit overdone. They made it seem like Maddie has some kind of importance in the story, like the Flash.... but who knows, maybe the SV Superman's JLA will be filled with FOTWs.

- Tom does not look anywhere close to 18. He really shouldnt be playing a teenager. I kinda wish this show was adult superman-centered from the start....or at least jumped some years ahead.

- My theory is Chloe is a closet lesbian. She doesnt seem to look gifthorses in the mouth either. Lex could have killed her so many times, especially after the last season finale.....but she still continues to try to act like shes threatening to him...plz

Overall this episode kinda sucked.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/tifflover/623690501_l.jpg


I give it 1.5 out of 5 pieces of broken glass. Hopefully next week is a vast improvement.

I expected Fragile to suck based on how WB filled its Fragile promo with footage mainly from other episodes.

I agree on the Chloe as a lesbian thing. I know for a fact there have been numerous fans who have been picking up on this vibe since she and Lana started hanging out way back when.

[GothicPowerMix1]

I swear ,you guys here are starting to sound a little like the "FOTW racists" on Smallville. They explained in the episode that the ppl at Bell Reeve thought the guy was mentally cured. Maybe the doctors there are like Clark and try to see the good in ppl? It's obvious the guy probably faked his "goodness" and thats why he was released. The doctors cant keep him there just b/c he has powers

You know everyone has their own opinions dont you ? No need to go nuts on People who dont like certain things about an Episode

[Abaddon]

Yawwwwnnnn

[Kane]

I swear ,you guys here are starting to sound a little like the "FOTW racists" on Smallville. They explained in the episode that the ppl at Bell Reeve thought the guy was mentally cured. Maybe the doctors there are like Clark and try to see the good in ppl? It's obvious the guy probably faked his "goodness" and thats why he was released. The doctors cant keep him there just b/c he has powers.


I didnt imply to keep him there but at least monitor him or report it to the Govt. I doubt the US would let a man like that walk free after past trangressions, despite how much hes claimed to have changed.

There are obviously past records of him as Chloe pointed out and Maddie is in the system (because of her foster care)....so if they let him go free, its obvious he would go after her.... :confused: They werent really thinking at all.

[AgentPat]

i bet trip, pat, avid, and serene would love to watch TW wag his tailhttp://www.patcostello.com/smileys/busted.gif

Anyway I guess I'm the only one who liked the little girl and thought she did a good job. Lois was definitely annoying though. And it looks like the Clark/Chloe vs. Lex/Lana war has begun.Are you kidding? I LOVED this episode! I was blown away at how many scenes Welling was actually IN, considering he had to direct the episode too. And folks, not fer nuthin', but there's two things they tell you to avoid - kids and animals. It aint easy working with either, and Welling did both on his first outing. Compound that with the amount of FX shots in this ep.... GEEZE!!! I'm stunned. Really, I am! Bravo!!

Oh, and BoyscouT, welcome back dude!!!!!!! We missed ya. :up:

[tonytr1687]

You know everyone has their own opinions dont you ? No need to go nuts on People who dont like certain things about an Episode

Umm talk about exaggerating: I didnt go nuts on him. I was merely disagreeing with him. Jeez...