YOUR Sandman Fight

[Cmill216]

If you were directing Spider-Man 3, where and how would you setup a battle between Spider-Man and Sandman.

For me, my dream scene would be at Coney Island (cause we need some more NY landmarks), and Peter and MJ are enjoying the afternoon when Sandman strikes. Imagine Spidey fighting him as he manuevers through a ferris wheel or a roller coaster.

What ya'll got?

[superkong 500]

yea well that would be cool to see sandman suddenly throwing a wheel and people running screaming, and spidey appears and they fight, I really hope we get more acrobatic moves from spidey i nthis movie, I wanna see more flips while fighting and more kicks also

I also wnat to see spidey giving his all on the fights, if you know whta I mean

[Silver Sable]

Central Park,Jones Beach, or Yankees Stadium

[JSZ]

Central Park,Jones Beach, or Yankees Stadium

what he said.

[Silver Sable]

I'm a she :o

[Amazing Spidey]

Times square would be a neat place to fight.

[supermarvelman]

Spideys gonna get handled the first time around

[supermarvelman]

does anyone think Topher could be Max Dillon Electro

[the Firestarter]

i kinda like the idea of sandman fighting spidey at coney island. what better place in the city for sand. (jones beach is a little too far from the city... and it doesn't have some of the bigger landmarks that coney island has.) they could take the fight on the parachute jump, wonder wheel, and cyclone. spidey could be tossed into nathan's famous hot dog stand... and there sandman could slip away through the planks in the boardwalk.

wasn't times square (gotham square) done in batman? if not we should save it for electro, central park for craven the hunter (or the symbiote landing), the bronx zoo for the lizard, & the world's fair unisphere dome for mysterio.

[Cmill216]

Times Square was done in SM1 between Spidey and the GG.

[Sean Adisano]

If you were directing Spider-Man 3, where and how would you setup a battle between Spider-Man and Sandman.

For me, my dream scene would be at Coney Island (cause we need some more NY landmarks), and Peter and MJ are enjoying the afternoon when Sandman strikes. Imagine Spidey fighting him as he manuevers through a ferris wheel or a roller coaster.

What ya'll got?

you stole mt idea! i was thinking a scence at conney island too. imagine this, they are at the beach, enjoying the day. you see them on a towel holdning each other having a good time. then the camera shows a little boy playing in the sand making a hole. all of a sudden a face appears in the sand and the boy is swallowed through the sand, and sandman just busts out of the sand. peter has no time to change and doesn't know what to do...

then a huge fight seqeuence happens, either peter dressed as spider-man or just as peter parker. i would like to see him battle once just as peter parker, you know, something happens and he just doesn't have time to change. i think that would be cool:D

[Sean Adisano]

Central Park,Jones Beach, or Yankees Stadium

yankee stadium is stupid. unless they destroy it and kill all the yankess during the fight, then i'm all for it:up:

[Sean Adisano]

Spideys gonna get handled the first time around

yea i think your right. he won't know how to really handle sandman and he will get beaten, badly too.

[Cmill216]

yankee stadium is stupid. unless they destroy it and kill all the yankess during the fight, then i'm all for it:up:

Yeah, I don't particularly like Yankee Stadium for a fight. Unless it's an aerial thing...

[Silver Sable]

Ok Mets stadium then lol :p

[Silver Sable]

does anyone think Topher could be Max Dillon Electro

I'm not sure but I would rather have him play Electro then Venom

[Sean Adisano]

Ok Mets stadium then lol :p

i'm pretty sure that Spidey is a Mets fan like me:D, and that we both share a passionate hatred for the yankess.

[Sean Adisano]

i know that this is a thread about sandman and his fight scenes, but since alot of people have wanted hyrdo man in the film too, i had a cool scene for him(and i'm putting it here because its not neccesary to start a thread for it, and hydro-man and sandman go hand and hand).

just imagine a scene with a cruise ship, its leaving new york, and its heading for the varrazano bridge. all of a sudden, hydro-man pushes the ship up and towards the bridge. the ship crashes right into the bridge. now spider-man has to save the people on the bridge, and the people on the ship. their would be so much destruction.

well that was just an idea i had. i already gave my sandman fight thought, i'm thinking of more now.

[The Amazing Lee]

A construction site where there is lots of sand ;)

[NoirMan82]

I wanna see them fight in an old gym like Sandam's 1st appearence in the comics. Then Spidey sucks him up in a vacuum cleaner!

[Saph]

I wanna see them fight in an old gym like Sandam's 1st appearence in the comics. Then Spidey sucks him up in a vacuum cleaner!Raimi would come up with something more lame than THAT. :o

[HughJackFan420]

i just want sandman to use either sharp sand projectiles or morph into sharp objects slicing spidey up

[GoldGoblin]

A construction site where there is lots of sand ;)

^It's the perfect place for both Sandman and spidey.Tons of sand for Sandman,and an unfinished building that is just beams of steel for spidey to swing on,stick to,web zip through,etc.

[Cmill216]

^It's the perfect place for both Sandman and spidey.Tons of sand for Sandman,and an unfinished building that is just beams of steel for spidey to swing on,stick to,web zip through,etc.

I agree with you guys that in terms of practicality it's a good spot. But keep in mind that a great battle isn't just about the characters fighting, it's also about the surroundings. The Times Square Battle, Bank Battle, and Train Scene are all great sequences because of all of the environment and chaos in the scene. There's not gonna be too much of a crowd at a construction site (except for maybe some workers).

[Amazing Spidey]

A sandbox.

[Pagrebo]

i kinda like the idea of sandman fighting spidey at coney island. what better place in the city for sand. (jones beach is a little too far from the city... and it doesn't have some of the bigger landmarks that coney island has.) they could take the fight on the parachute jump, wonder wheel, and cyclone. spidey could be tossed into nathan's famous hot dog stand... and there sandman could slip away through the planks in the boardwalk.

wasn't times square (gotham square) done in batman? if not we should save it for electro, central park for craven the hunter (or the symbiote landing), the bronx zoo for the lizard, & the world's fair unisphere dome for mysterio.


I like the way you're thinking!

[GoldGoblin]

I agree with you guys that in terms of practicality it's a good spot. But keep in mind that a great battle isn't just about the characters fighting, it's also about the surroundings. The Times Square Battle, Bank Battle, and Train Scene are all great sequences because of all of the environment and chaos in the scene. There's not gonna be too much of a crowd at a construction site (except for maybe some workers).


^What if they start fighting there,then spidey is knocked off the buidling and lands in a dumptruck that is carrying sand.Maybe there could be more than one dumptruck.

Then you can take the battle to where more people are.A freeway,the city streets,etc.

[Cmill216]

^What if they start fighting there,then spidey is knocked off the buidling and lands in a dumptruck that is carrying sand.Maybe there could be more than one dumptruck.

Then you can take the battle to where more people are.A freeway,the city streets,etc.

True...but then it'd be structurally just like the Clock Tower/Train Battle (spidey falls off building and onto train with people).

The reason I am SO Coney Island is because it hasn't been done before, and it offers SO many possibilities.

[GoldGoblin]

True...but then it'd be structurally just like the Clock Tower/Train Battle (spidey falls off building and onto train with people).

The reason I am SO Coney Island is because it hasn't been done before, and it offers SO many possibilities.

^That is true.

[superkong 500]

You know the enviroment has to be a place that gives a sense of danger for the people around and for the structures that could become projectiles to the civilians, but more so it has to serve the story in the sense that it most serve both sandman's and spidey's powers, so a place with some structures in which spidey can swing but the things most important about the fight is really the choreography of it, they have to find a way to use the soroundings and make them part of the story. but my worry is how a fight with sandman will work onscreen, I mean GG , Doc ock are made of flesh, but how can the fight work when the villain is made of sand? how is spidey gonna hurt him at least a bit? I hope not by throwing water at him, I know they will find ways to make it look great and work onscreen.

[Cmill216]

You know the enviroment has to be a place that gives a sense of danger for the people around and for the structures that could become projectiles to the civilians, but more so it has to serve the story in the sense that it most serve both sandman's and spidey's powers

Exactly. That's why Times Square was chosen in the first film because it could showcase the aerial battle between GG and Spidey as well as their physical strength on the ground.

Fighting on the side of the building in SM2 served both Ock and Spidey, and the same can be said of the train.

For this film, I can picture Spidey swinging through the gaps of a ferris wheel or roller coaster while dodging projectiles and trying to protect civilians from falling debris (and parts of the rides).

[Pagrebo]

For this film, I can picture Spidey swinging through the gaps of a ferris wheel or roller coaster while dodging projectiles and trying to protect civilians from falling debris (and parts of the rides).

Bingo!! One of the coolest scenes from SM2 was used in the trailer when Spidey swung between the truck and trailer. So many great opportunities to do likewise in an amusement park setting, not to mention I can just envision parallels between Sandman's movement and that of a roller coaster. Spare no expense on the CG in this one!!! Sandman may not be the greatest Spidey villain in the comics, but with the tech advances in CGI (think of how Cameron used water in "The Abyss"), and this has the potential to be an outstanding battle.

[Cmill216]

I've posted this pic elsewhere, but since we are on the topic, I'll do it again. This is what I want Sandman to look like:

http://www.geocities.com/cmill216/Sandman.JPG

[Silver Sable]

Where'd you get that?!?!? :eek:

[Agent Thermal]

They COULD have it where a gigantic exhibit is being featured in the New York Museum of Natural History (lots of neat potential there), and this exhibit JUST SO HAPPENS to be an Egyptian-themed one...;)

If Sandman has the petty thug motive, he could simply be after a rare headdress or jeweled object of some sort, and the sand in the exhibit displays could easily serve as body fuel. :)

Plus, like I said, that museum would be a definitely cool place to stage a battle. :up: Screaming civilians, tons of unique props, cavernous indoor quarters...I mentally drool just picturing it!

(Yeah, I got this idea from reading some Douglas Preston/Lincoln Child novels recently...:o)

[the Firestarter]

not crazy about yankee stadium as a battleground. it's a bit limiting. besides, since peter & most of the characters are coming from queens you know that they would haveta be mets fans. (shea stadium is in flushing meadows park, queens.)

[zeptron]

Central Park, Coney Island, and maybe a construction yard.

[the Firestarter]

Fight 1: Peter tracks Flint down to his hideout in Coney Island, Brooklyn.
Flint is hiding out in one of the sideshow buildings off the boardwalk. perhaps he runs a freak show. Spidey confronts Flint. Flint creates a giant hammer & hits spidey knocking him through the tent wall. the battle continues on the boardwalk. sandman hides in a fun house / house of mirrors but spidey follows him. spidey uses his spidersense to find him amongst the mirrors. sandman then throws spidey into one of the consession stands (i.e., nathans or one of the shooting arcade games). spidey gets up & chases sandman. he sends a web toward the cyclone rollercoaster and pulls himself up. sandman jumps into one of the cars & a battle on the rollercoaster ensues putting people in danger. sandman breaks off part of the track & spidey has to save people with his webs by making a bridge. spidey sends a web up to the parachute jump & swings from it. creates a giant net & pulls sandman up appearing to trap him. sandman forms a scissor with his hands and cuts a hole in the web. he drops down through the netting as a sand cloud & blends in with the beach below. spidey goes down to the beach to investigate only for sandman to come up from the sand and give him a powerful blow knocking him into the ocean. when spidey climbs to shore sandman is gone.

Fight 2: Manhattan
Symbiote Spidey finds Flint & they engage in battle. symbiote gives sandman a wooping. sandman hides amongst a large construction site. they battle with spidey hanging off girders & sandman being able to hide in sandpiles. eventually spidey throws sandman into a concrete mixer & the battle appears to be won. however, sandman busts out of the mixing truck and again confronts spidey. spidey grabs a flame welder and superheats sandman turning him to glass from the neck down. sandman pleads for mercy... but the symbiote pulls a girder with his web and gleefully tosses it at him shattering sandman into a million pieces.

[Amazing Spidey]

well wherever the sandman battle takes place, im pretty sure Topher will be right in the battle with spidey and sandman.

Spider-Man vs. Sandman vs. Venom :up:

http://www.samruby.com/SpidC/Large/Spiderman114.JPG

[Cmill216]

Where'd you get that?!?!? :eek:

Somewhere off of Marvel.com

[Spider Boy]

I like the Coney Island idea... a fight at an amusement park would be awesome. Imagine all of the rides they could climb and put into it.

[Silver Sable]

The think I said about Yankees/Mets stadium, I know it's not the best fight scene but it sure can be a funny one

[Sean Adisano]

I wanna see them fight in an old gym like Sandam's 1st appearence in the comics. Then Spidey sucks him up in a vacuum cleaner!

PLEASE NO VACUUMS!:eek:
you mean to tell me he can't just bust out of the vacuunm:confused:
it was ok for a comic, but for the movie, they better not:mad:

[I am Batman]

PLEASE NO VACUUMS!:eek:
you mean to tell me he can't just bust out of the vacuunm:confused:
it was ok for a comic, but for the movie, they better not:mad:

Well you can have Spidey vacuum Sandman up and have him think "Well that was easy," then have Sandman bust out of the vacuum, and have a swirling mass of sand all around Spidey only to have it reform into Sandman with Spidey inside him.

Just a thought.

[TheSlag]

Well you can have Spidey vacuum Sandman up and have him think "Well that was easy," then have Sandman bust out of the vacuum, and have a swirling mass of sand all around Spidey only to have it reform into Sandman with Spidey inside him.

Just a thought.

Good Grief... Shoot me now!!!!!

[Sean Adisano]

Good Grief... Shoot me now!!!!!

(loading of gun) BANG!

[November Rain]

I think final battle should happen at an airport.

an adaptation of the original vacuum idea would be to have sandman pass through a working gas turbine engine being sucked through (since spidey can stick down, he'll use all his strength to resist)

with the high temperaturatures and the vacuum like action occuring, sandy would come through on the other side as shades of glass or some kinda super heated silicon based creature. or at the very least it should make him be able to deform his body, but not be able separate into individual strands of sand so he has to remain a single entity.

[Red X]

well wherever the sandman battle takes place, im pretty sure Topher will be right in the battle with spidey and sandman.

Spider-Man vs. Sandman vs. Venom :up:

http://www.samruby.com/SpidC/Large/Spiderman114.JPG


Minus the venom.

[Cmill216]

Minus the venom.

Yup! :up:

[Saph]

I think final battle should happen at an airport.

an adaptation of the original vacuum idea would be to have sandman pass through a working gas turbine engine being sucked through (since spidey can stick down, he'll use all his strength to resist)

with the high temperaturatures and the vacuum like action occuring, sandy would come through on the other side as shades of glass or some kinda super heated silicon based creature. or at the very least it should make him be able to deform his body, but not be able separate into individual strands of sand so he has to remain a single entity.
Genius.

[Sean Adisano]

I think final battle should happen at an airport.

an adaptation of the original vacuum idea would be to have sandman pass through a working gas turbine engine being sucked through (since spidey can stick down, he'll use all his strength to resist)

with the high temperaturatures and the vacuum like action occuring, sandy would come through on the other side as shades of glass or some kinda super heated silicon based creature. or at the very least it should make him be able to deform his body, but not be able separate into individual strands of sand so he has to remain a single entity.

i like it:up:

[the Firestarter]

yes, first battle at coney island... second battle at laguardia or jfk works for me. i like the idea of having the final battle at an airport.

[GoldGoblin]

Would you guys want the battle at Coney Island to be at night with all the lights on at the amusement park,or would you want a daylight battle?

[Spider-Bite]

I think Sandman should be taking up the whole screen a lot of the time. It should be like an unrealistic amount of sand coming from his body.

[Cmill216]

Would you guys want the battle at Coney Island to be at night with all the lights on at the amusement park,or would you want a daylight battle?

Hmmm... I imagined a day battle but night would be cool too.

[Sean Adisano]

Hmmm... I imagined a day battle but night would be cool too.

night would be cool, but i imagined the battle first happening on the beach, then migrating over to the rides and everything. and your not swiming at the beach at night, especially at coney island.

man, night swiming at coney island, thats when the plastic bags really attack you.

i would rather it take place during the day.

[DrChronic]

Ok firstly i would have peter parker and Mary Jane on the beach, suddenly from out of no where, Peter gets sand in his shoes, thats right the foils of sandmans plan as he gets sand in his shoes,

later there would be a scene where spiderman is trying to save the day but there is sand in the spidersuit.

[Sean Adisano]

Ok firstly i would have peter parker and Mary Jane on the beach, suddenly from out of no where, Peter gets sand in his shoes, thats right the foils of sandmans plan as he gets sand in his shoes,

later there would be a scene where spiderman is trying to save the day but there is sand in the spidersuit.

theres nothing worse than sand in your pants:D

[November Rain]

how would spidey get sand in his pants if it's a one piece outfit?

[seishin87]

I think final battle should happen at an airport.

an adaptation of the original vacuum idea would be to have sandman pass through a working gas turbine engine being sucked through (since spidey can stick down, he'll use all his strength to resist)

with the high temperaturatures and the vacuum like action occuring, sandy would come through on the other side as shades of glass or some kinda super heated silicon based creature. or at the very least it should make him be able to deform his body, but not be able separate into individual strands of sand so he has to remain a single entity.

That's exactly what I had in mind. For some reason I have a small fetish with villains getting sucked into jet engines(Die hard2,die another day, The Incredibles). I could see it. Sandman slowing being consumed by the engine and particles of sand being pulled from him into the engine as he slowly wastes away and is disintergrated.

[craigaat]

It's a sound idea, but why would they be at an airport?

[seishin87]

It's a sound idea, but why would they be at an airport?

Perhaps MJ could be leaving New York for LA to pursue her acting career and Peter races to airport to stop her like in alot of those sappy romance tales only to be confronted by Sandman in a final climatic battle where MJ is killed.

[craigaat]

Perhaps MJ could be leaving New York for LA to pursue her acting career and Peter races to airport to stop her like in alot of those sappy romance tales only to be confronted by Sandman in a final climatic battle where MJ is killed.

Just like in Not Another Teen Movie, Mr. T can give Peter the strength to defeat Sandman :up:

[November Rain]

It could be sandman's base, the whole idea of people jetting off away from sun sea and sand, a lil bit of irony thrown into the mix.

could be hostage situation, could be marko trying to leave new york, could be loads of things.

heck it could even be a private airstrip

[Sean Adisano]

how would spidey get sand in his pants if it's a one piece outfit?

hmmm, good point:up:

[Silver Sable]

Just like in Not Another Teen Movie, Mr. T can give Peter the strength to defeat Sandman :up:

My god.Please don't mention that movie.It was horrible :( :o

[Silver Sable]

how would spidey get sand in his pants if it's a one piece outfit?

Uh.....a piece of is costume gets torn and some sand gets in it? ;)

[Silver Sable]

Ok firstly i would have peter parker and Mary Jane on the beach, suddenly from out of no where, Peter gets sand in his shoes, thats right the foils of sandmans plan as he gets sand in his shoes,

later there would be a scene where spiderman is trying to save the day but there is sand in the spidersuit.

That's what I thought or maybe he can diguise himself as a sandcastle and pops out

[Spider-Bite]

yes, first battle at coney island... second battle at laguardia or jfk works for me. i like the idea of having the final battle at an airport.

imagine spidey stuck to the outside of a high flying airplane, holding on for dear life.

[Sean Adisano]

imagine spidey stuck to the outside of a high flying airplane, holding on for dear life.

would he be holding on for dear life:confused:

i mean he sticks to everything, he's super sticky.

but yea, would be cool to see :D

[GoldGoblin]

If news helicopters come to shoot the battle between spidey and Sandman,will the air from the propeller cause the Sandman to fall to pieces?Maybe the Sandman then would have to fight spidey where helicopters can't go then.

[Sean Adisano]

If news helicopters come to shoot the battle between spidey and Sandman,will the air from the propeller cause the Sandman to fall to pieces?Maybe the Sandman then would have to fight spidey where helicopters can't go then.

hmmm, interesting thought(rubbing chin)

[Cmill216]

Sorry for posting this again, but I just love it so much! Here's a hi-res photo of the PERFECT look for the Sandman in this film!

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/662/662725/sandman-20051029045402900.jpg

And you can see another good Sandman pic here:

http://www.geocities.com/cmill216/SpideyandSandman.jpg

[GoldGoblin]

Those pictures are awesome.Sandman is gonna be a cool villain.

[the Firestarter]

final battle at niagra falls. sandman gets churned into mud.

[Sean Adisano]

final battle at niagra falls. sandman gets churned into mud.

don't know about that one. thats quite a ways up from the city. why would they be there:confused:

[GoldGoblin]

hmmm, interesting thought(rubbing chin)

^That's why I'm wandering if there going to make battles between them indoors,or it could be the thing that saves spidey from the Sandman when spidey is about to die.

[Sean Adisano]

^That's why I'm wandering if there going to make battles between them indoors,or it could be the thing that saves spidey from the Sandman when spidey is about to die.

could be. but i still like the idea of gg2 saving spidey when he's about to die. but your idea is definitely different, and cool :up: :D

[Mr. Socko]

Don't know exactly. I want to see an amazing fight between the two with Sandman shape-shifting into all kinds of stuff and beating the stew out of Spidey in the beginning but towards the middle and end of the fight, Spiderman comes back whooping Sandman.

In the very end, I definitely see Sandman being frozen in a vertain position of Sand then drifting off in the sea.

[Sean Adisano]

Don't know exactly. I want to see an amazing fight between the two with Sandman shape-shifting into all kinds of stuff and beating the stew out of Spidey in the beginning but towards the middle and end of the fight, Spiderman comes back whooping Sandman.

In the very end, I definitely see Sandman being frozen in a vertain position of Sand then drifting off in the sea.

how do you see him frezzing up:confused:
and why would he drift out to sea:confused:

explain yourself:D

[Visionary]

If news helicopters come to shoot the battle between spidey and Sandman,will the air from the propeller cause the Sandman to fall to pieces?Maybe the Sandman then would have to fight spidey where helicopters can't go then.
Are you forgetting that Sandman also has the ability to form his entire body into concrete? The air from a helicopter's propeller would be useless against him.

[Cmill216]

Are you forgetting that Sandman also has the ability to form his entire body into concrete? The air from a helicopter's propeller would be useless against him.

:cool: (SIGHS) Sandman is so dope.

[Sean Adisano]

:cool: (SIGHS) Sandman is so dope.

lol, yea how does a man made of sand turn into concrete:confused:
never really got that one. he's just multi-powered i guess:rolleyes:

[Cmill216]

Here's some Sandman info from a website on Spidey villains:


Sandman has the ability to transform into a malleable sand-like substance which can be hardened, dispersed, or shaped according to his will. He can increase his size and mass to an unknown extent when in sand-form by incorporating sand grains in his vicinity into his body.

[Visionary]

How does a man get bit by a spider and then climb walls and can lift the weight of tons?

In fiction, anything is possible.

Just so you know, Spider-Man isn't real.;)

[Sean Adisano]

so its not "concrete", he just makes himself strong and hard. thats more like it.

heh, concrete, oh the insanity:rolleyes:

[Sean Adisano]

just so you know, Spider-Man isn't real.;)

NO! YOUR LYING! MOMMY, WHY IS THE BAD MAN LYING??!!??

[Cmill216]

How does a man get bit by a spider and then climb walls and can lift the weight of tons?

In fiction, anything is possible.

Just so you know, Spider-Man isn't real.;)

:rolleyes: Yeah, sure. And next you're gonna tell me that there is no Santa Claus.

(Someone taps my shoulder, and whispers something into my ear)

....

....

WHAT?!?!?!?!

[Mr. Socko]

how do you see him frezzing up:confused:
and why would he drift out to sea:confused:

explain yourself:D
Not really "freezing" up, but him becoming completely solid where he can't move.

As for drifting out to the sea, how else are they gonna get rid of him lol. Put him in jail so he can slip through the bars?

His sand molecules seperate and go into the sea.

[Sean Adisano]

Not really "freezing" up, but him becoming completely solid where he can't move.

As for drifting out to the sea, how else are they gonna get rid of him lol. Put him in jail so he can slip through the bars?

His sand molecules seperate and go into the sea.

maybe after he's solid, they can break him up and try to flush him down the toliet bowl. thats what i would do:D

it'll reach the sea, eventually...

[Pagrebo]

maybe after he's solid, they can break him up and try to flush him down the toliet bowl. thats what i would do:D

it'll reach the sea, eventually...

... and find poor lost little Nemo!!!

[November Rain]

Uh.....a piece of is costume gets torn and some sand gets in it? ;)a sand in my pants gag would only be used in an early bout with sandman and we all know that in early bouts, spidey never gets his costume ripped, that on ly happens generally in the last or at the very earliest penultimate battles with spidey.

[November Rain]

If news helicopters come to shoot the battle between spidey and Sandman,will the air from the propeller cause the Sandman to fall to pieces?Maybe the Sandman then would have to fight spidey where helicopters can't go then.depends how close the helicopters are, a helicopter on take off can knock and keep a grown man to the floor if in the right proximity, so i guess it would do the same to sandy and spidey, however it depends what kind of structural form his takes for support, he could surive undamaaged or get pinned like everyone else...

however having a copter that close would be the only thing, at any other distance, i don't see there being a drastic effect.

[The Infernal]

I'm assuming that there are at least two fights with him. The first one I would have take place in Central Park. Probably just because this is where one happened in the Mega Drive game... all those years ago. Anyone remember?

Though there are high trees I don't think Spidey would get much swinging done, so he would have to jump around and fight low. Though it would be cool to have him set up a web between trees so Sandman can blunder through. Though Sandman being what he is that doesn't stop him and the webbing doesn't hold him. The fight becomes somewhat of a brawl from then on and for whatever reason they break it up and are forced to go their own ways.

So Peter Parker goes back to the drawing board. Though whether he's still in college I wouldn't know. If he is then lets say he helps Doc Conners in the lab sometimes or has left college and is someone's assistant part-time and he uses the lab to create webbing that is still fairly liquid for when he next meets Sandman.

Though next time he fights Sandman I wouldn't want that to be the fight decider. I'd like it to help Spidey and give him and advantage but not make it so he just beats him easily. I would maybe have them fighting through New York's streets and ending up near a construction site.

Yup, I'm going for the old cement trick. They fight but it's Spidey who falls in first at the other end. Thinking he's got Spidey where he wants them Sandman just steps in not aware of what will happen then he starts solidfying into a stature. With some effort Spidey breaks out of the quick drying cement and leaves. Next thing we see are the police SWAT team surrounding Sandman and maybe take him to a high security super villain jail.

[Silver Sable]

a sand in my pants gag would only be used in an early bout with sandman and we all know that in early bouts, spidey never gets his costume ripped, that on ly happens generally in the last or at the very earliest penultimate battles with spidey.

Nice excuse :p :(

[BHD]

id be happy if they had a battle throughout the whole city instead of at a specific location. anotherwards, spidey swinging around buildings, and sandman making his sandstorms, or just growing into some sandy wave and making his hands huge weapons which knock holes in buildings and such. just a classic fight in on the street or swinging though the air, which is something they never really did except for doc ock afater the bank scene. this is something they should have done with green goblin especially, but something similar would still be great with sandman.

[American_Hobo]

they better not use vacuum cleaner

[Saph]

they better not use vacuum cleanerRaimi does seem like the kind of story-teller that would come up with that.

[Twin2]

I think it would be interesting to perhaps have a fight in an airport. After going on a rampage or such sandman wants to get out of dodge and tries to head out of the country. There are a lot of inocent bystanders to potentially use in the fight, escalator/luggage shennanigans, and make some good use out of some turbines. It's not the greatest idea, but to me at least it would be interesting to see.

[theoneandonly]

mine would be at a church because eddie brock i hope will get the symbiote there and he goes into pray and he hears something on the roof and he goes outside and spidey (in his black costume) and sandman will be there and its pouring with rain (thunder lighting) and the bells start ringing and the symbiote goes off spidey onto eddie and because its raining sandman turns into mud and spidey then finishes him

and that will be the end of the movie setting venom up nicely:spidey: :spidey:

[TheCardPlayer]

What I'd love to see:

Sandman fights some cops at a bank, Spidey drops him and fight him ( big fight outside and inside the bank), he gets wasted and Sandman escapes fighting some more cops. As he escapes with his wife they get in a car chase and the wife gets hurt, maybe by a gunshot.

People start to get afraid that Spidey can't stop that new menace.

If I was Raimi I wouldn't make Sandman's daughter ill, I'd make it so that Sandman and his wife steal to ensure their daughter's future so that she doesn't grow up in misery.

GG2 could ask Sandman help in defeating Spidey and if he does, Harry will give them all the money they need. Maybe Sandman accepts because he doesn't want his wife to get hurt anymore in more robberies.

They double team him( big fight with GG2 and Sandman kicking the crap out of Spidey...not, the symbiote waste them both, Spidey nearly kills GG2 and he realize what he's become).

No more symbiote for Spidey, Sandman finds him again and one more fight, it starts raining and Spidey get his ass kicked ( Sandman is unstopable but the rain take it's toll on him). Then when we think Spidey dies, a bomb blast the Sandman away! Harry saved the day! Then he is shot by the Sandman's wife! Oh no! She get arrested and Harry dies.

Then Spidey does the ending swinging through the city....then what happens? Venom crash the party.

[theoneandonly]

oh and adding onto my one

after the fight spiderman is just nicely swinging through the city its just focusing on his body and then from the top of the screen something lands on spidey but it doesnt follow them then you hear laughter then the credits roll

[DroolingforGwen]

yankee stadium is stupid. unless they destroy it and kill all the yankess during the fight, then i'm all for it:up:

Right with you on that one...

[DroolingforGwen]

sorry man, hes already confirmed to be eddie brock :):up::up::venom:

How are people still clinging to this belief about Topher being electrode...

[Silverstein]

Freezing, burning, melting, soaking, drowning, unstablizing his molecules, trapping in a vaccum, electrocuiting?....What are some of the ways you can defeat Sandman?

[TheCardPlayer]

Drop him in the water.

[Mister Gone]

sorry man, hes already confirmed to be eddie brock :):up::up::venom: Not Quite Yet

[superkong 500]

Okay I posted something like this in the (how sandman could hurt spidey thread),but I was just thinking of a way that a sandman vs. spidey fight could be way better than what we saw with GG and doc ock,so here it goes.
Okay the middle of the street,sandman appears and starts throwing cars and stuff,then spidey appears with out knowing he has the symbiote with him.He's just using the regualr red and blue suit,but actually the symbiote is within him,sandman turns one fist into a round shaped mace with spikes,tries to hit spidey like three or four times ,but spidey flips dodges bends and everytime avoids the blows, until sandman hits him and sends him flying back, Spidey is sent flying back very fast and about to hit a street sign pole,like the one he hit while fighting GG in spidey 1,but as he's about to hit the pole he turns around and grabs it with both hands,swings gracefully three or four times and then jumps and flips like a human drill,and then lands sandman is impressed that spidey had time to turn around and swing back,he gets pissed so he hits spidey with a hammer fist this time.
spidey flies back and lands on a wall then slides down, as he gets up slimey goo starts pouring from his suit,from within peter slowly covering engulfing him until he's all in a shinny black suit,like if tar was poured on him,but with the webbing of course,then sandman starts to throw punches at him at great speed,black spidey dodges them all by doing great acroabtics,some new moves that he hadn't even done before.
sandman then throws a car at him,he dodges it, and then before the car hits some bystanders he throws a huge web and stops it in time, then sandman throws another car at him,but instead of avoiding it, spidey just catches it with both arms,he holds the car up with both arms rised straight up, in an iconic heroic strenth pose, he then puts the car down gently.

sandman has had enough,he transforms his full body and face into solid rock even with lines and cracks, and he grows huge spikes in all his body and face(headalso) he then trows a fist at spidey,spidey flips and lands in a car,then in a comic book moment sandman throws another punch on spidey which is crouched in the car roof,spidey jumps flips and then sandman's fist hits the car,glass and metal fly as sandman's spiked fist crushes the car,spidey lands in front of him,makes a wise crack and then sandman tries to punch him with the left spiked fist,but spidey catches it with both hands.
sandman struggles to take his hand back,but spidey holds it tight,the spikes don't even scratch spidey's hands,then we see a close up of sandmans spiked fist and spidey's hands around it,spidey's hands suddenly start to break the spikes,they crack and fall into pieces,until sandman's whole fist starts to shatter, as it cracks inside spidey's hands, sandman manages to pull his fist off of spiderman's hands but as he pulls the hand out,the rockhard spiked fist shatters into pieces and sanddust.Sandman holds his handless left arm up and looks at it in awe,then with his right fist he tries to hit spidey,but spidey doesn't try to avoid it,instead he stays there,as the fist is about to hit spidey in the face,spidey punches lightning fast sandman's spiked right fist and breaks it ,pieces and chunks of rock fly.

But sandman won't give up,he grows his fists back and before he can throw the first punch spidey jumps very high spins a web swings with both legs up and breaks right through sandman's chest beaking him into thousands of pieces,he then lets the web go and lands gracefully.

after this sandman again reincorporates,but know he grows a cone shaped giant spike and tries to impale spidey, but for his surprise and spidey's own,spidey throws a punch, but from spidey's hand a giant thick black wiplike tendril comes out and destroys sandman's new sandstake.

finally as a last resort sandman turns into soft sand again and covers him styarting to choke him by turning rocksolid againg while spidey's trap inside him,but the symbiote has more tricks than one can think of,it as it reacts to the danger and lots of slimey but hard tendrils break trough sandman's thick organic rock skin,and start covering sandman until the tendrils cover him and contaminate his sand molecules and he starst falling apart and loses control of his molecualr structure and starts to die.

spiderman notices this and controls the symbiote and leaves the scene leaving a defeated almost dead sandman.

we have asked ourselfs how could spidey defeat sandman,well there you have it. yea its a long post but what the heck,what do you guys think? atleast read it:)

[Crimson Dynamo]

He'll be turned to glass. Then - smash!! No more Sandman.

[8Ball2/JanG5]

I'd never fight with Sandman, that's nuts.

[kansas boy]

Definitely ending at a construction site. Spidey is just about to be killed, when someone??? from up above on the girders pours concrete over our poor Sandman. Just as he is about to give the final blow to our hero Spidey.

Just watching them fight on the elevator that takes the construction workers to the top of the not yet finished building.

SM2 had them traveling horizontally on a train, now in SM3, they'll be traveling straight up vertically.

Also, I would use Bruce Campbell as a construction worker trying to eat his lunch on one of the girders. Spidey and Sandman interupt his meal.

The fight could start somewhere else, but it has to end here. No vacuum, just concrete.

[theoneandonly]

i am guessing that the end fight could be where he is sitting in the teaser poster

[The Kid]

Spider-man takes out his mini-vac and sucks him in.

[Rabid_Rust]

... uses the lab to create webbing that is still fairly liquid for when he next meets Sandman...

Webbings organic in the movies, remeber? He can't just make a new batch.

Anyways, in my scene, sandman would dissapear onto a beach, with lots of families and children enjoying the day. Spidey arrives at the beach, wearing the black costume. Before anyone notices him, he wills the black suit into street clothes, to blend in (if the suit can do that in the movie.) Anyways, he starts hunting sandman on the beach, and sandman starts tormenting him, making his face appear all over the place. He eventually makes his face appear in a sand castle a group of small kids are building on the beach. Peter takes off running toward the castle, and kicks it with all his might. The castle is of course destroyed, and the kids devestated. Hilarity ensues.

[Venomosity]

a musem would be awesome. heres my take on the already used Coney island scene.

*during the middle of the movie* Peter and MJ are on the beach taking a walk, sandman is following them through sand somehow, peter knows somethings up but dosen't know what, sandman manifests himself and attacks someone (anyone) and takes them hostage, Peter runs into a porta potty? or something of that sort and changes into costume, he sees sandman with the hostage and...I dunno...it could end with spidey being overtaken by sandman (literally) sandman is wrapping his arms into spidey takeing him into his body, the hostage escapes when sandman releases her to attack spidey eralier, spidey is inside sandmans body and performs a web dome (a nifty little attack in the 1st spidey game for the movie) sandman escapes and leaves spidey exhausted.

[fangrl06]

Spider-man and Sandman are fighting in a dark alley. Sandman knocks the wind out of Spider-man, and begins suffocating him by covering Spider-man's mouth with Sand. There is a flash in the background causing Sandman to spin around and loosen his grip on SM. The flash comes from none other than Eddie Brock who is standing with a camera in his hand. Sandman Stretches toward Eddie and smashes his camera. Eddie becomes enraged causing him to become...VENOM!

[Ock]

final battle at niagra falls. sandman gets churned into mud.good thing not viagra falls or he would get bigger

[Ock]

some how spidey gets sandman in really hot temp. and turns in to glass sm kicks sandman and he shatters

[Ock]

Sorry for posting this again, but I just love it so much! Here's a hi-res photo of the PERFECT look for the Sandman in this film!

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/662/662725/sandman-20051029045402900.jpg

And you can see another good Sandman pic here:

http://www.geocities.com/cmill216/SpideyandSandman.jpg
#1-the coolest sandman pic ever
#2-why is sandman sticking his hand up spideys butt

[fangrl06]

some how spidey gets sandman in really hot temp. and turns in to glass sm kicks sandman and he shatters
I like it...Electro possibly?

[Cmill216]

#1-the coolest sandman pic ever

Yes. Yes it is.

#2-why is sandman sticking his hand up spideys butt

...He's shooting sand with his right hand. Spidey is above it.

[onceasaint]

Hand him a long metal pole, send him outside in a lightning storm.. tell him theres candy out there... or Spidey will give him a shiney nickel for every seashell he collects.

Put him in a giant ant farm... or an etch a sketch...

[Ock]

I like it...Electro possibly?great idea
but how and why would electro do that since he is on the same team as sandman...sinister six

[fangrl06]

great idea
but how and why would electro do that since he is on the same team as sandman...sinister six
It could be pre-SS. Sandman suffocates SM by covering his mouth with sand and the Electro comes along. They both want to off Spidey and get into a fight while SM slowly regains his strength. Electro shoots a high energy bolt at Sandman, causing Sandman to turn to glass, and Electro to loose his strength.

[Ock]

It could be pre-SS. Sandman suffocates SM by covering his mouth with sand and the Electro comes along. They both want to off Spidey and get into a fight while SM slowly regains his strength. Electro shoots a high energy bolt at Sandman, causing Sandman to turn to glass, and Electro to loose his strength.cool:cool:

[jimmylace]

I think spidey should destory him using a broom and a shovel. that would be comedy!

[Ock]

I think spidey should destory him using a broom and a shovel. that would be comedy!no not comedy
stupid

[jimmylace]

its called humour!!!! not very good humour...but still.....

[Ock]

its called humour!!!! not very good humour...but still.....but still it sucks