"Far From Home" Talkback/Discussion

[Red]

Review up soon.

[union_jak]

All I can say is, I didn't want it to end like that...:(

[Son_of_Kalibak]

Review up soon.

I'll believe it when your reviews (that were to be up soon) are finally posted for Patriot Act, The Great Brain Robbery, and Grudge Match.:down

At least Binker posts his/her review and doesn't just start a thread with absolutely no information.

Haven't seen the episode yet. Did they air out of order or something? I thought Grudge Match was supposed to air after Far From Home.

[Binker]

I, a he, don't really start up another thread with no review. I post a review so a actual discussion can start.

Oh, thank you for mentioning me. :up:

[Hush]

So what happened???

[Inner City Blue]

Some people will whine if I don't put spoiler tags, so here it goes:

The episode begins with a scene of a futuristic city, and in fact it is the future. You come two a hallway where two men are walking down the hallway, one is a heavyset man and the next is a man with blonde hair and the trademark Brainiac head markings, nicknamed Brainy.

They are a part of a group called the Legion of Superheroes and they have just been ambushed by the Fatal Five, during this attack all the members except the two of them were captured. To save their friends, Brainy decides to recruit superheroes from the past, much to the chagrin of his teammate. Supposedly records from the past indicate that three members of the Justice League travelled into the future, but only two made it home. The obvious idea is that someone died and didn't make it back.

[cue intro]

The episode begins in the past and Green Lantern is asking Supergirl if she's ready, this is in reference to the two supervillains causing mayhem in the streets, Queen Bee and Dr. Cyber. Kara makes short work of them and pummels both villains. But it turns out that this is not a real fight, but a simulation for training. Kara doesn't feel it's much of a workout.

Green Lantern then cues Green Arrow in the control room that they should up the difficulty, Superman is looking on at the same time. They then introduce two more villains, I don't read comics so I don't know the names, some ogreish looking guy and the guy with a burning green skull. This is obviously much harder for her and she proceeds to fight them. There is then a cut over to Green Arrow talking to Superman about Kara and how she's 21, but she rather be training. Superman obviously doesn't see the issue and feels that she is fine, but then Green Arrow points to the fact that Kara never grew up on Earth (like Superman) and that she is a bit of an outsider. Basically the conversation is that Green Arrow wants Superman to be a bit more supportive of Kara and not just treat her like another superhero (as she's not a native inhabitant of Earth).

The scene goes back to the simulation and Kara has made short of her foes. She then asks Green Lantern if he's going to go down the list of all the things she did wrong, but he tells her that she has nothing else to learn. Green Arrow comes in to congratulate her on a record for the simulation, but then a sphere forms around GL GA and SG. Superman seeing this rushes to their aid, but it's too late as the vanish.

The three heros then reappear in the future where upon introduction, Kara attacks Brainy, whose real name is Brainiac 5. Green Arrow stops Kara from attacking him to give him a chance to explain himself. It turns out that Brainiac learned to pass on his code biologically some time in the past and Brainiac 5 is a descendant, he sees himself as someone that is going to make up for all the damage Brainiac caused in the past. The other guy's name (heavyset fellow) is Bouncing Boy.

The future is about 1000 years from the present and Brainiac 5 then goes on to tell about the ambush on the Legion. He also talks about Fateful Five and how it looks like they're planning on attacking a central planet in the system.

It's at this time that I actually have something to do but I will be unable to finish, but that's the synopsis up to about 5 minutes into the show. I'm sure someone else will pick up the slack, these things do take a lot of time.

[Binker]

MY REVIEW:
We continue with again another break from the Legion arc with a stand alone of sorts. Or a unofficial pilot of the new show in development "Legion of Superheroes". Because this episode introduces...well...like I said; Legion of the Superheroes. But its actually "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" like the title changed comic starting in March from DC Comics.

The future team of Superheroes hasn't been seen since Superman: The Animated Series episode "New Kids in Town" that aired on October 31st, 1998. Eight years ago! Bringing back the team after that long was great to see, and having Supergirl in relation of the comic was interesting. It makes you think since shows like this don't take a short time to do, had brief discussions with DC Comics and their Infinite Crisis plans. And maybe know somethings we don't at this time...

The plot is about the last of Legion (of Superheroes) at its weakest from the Fatal Five. To counterattack, Brainiac 5 uses a time partol to bring back from the 21st Century three heroes to their future: Supergirl, Green Lantern & Green Arrow. The only thing is; after the mission was successful, only two made it back home...

Supergirl had some Silver Age charm to her. When she was fighting in a simulater, as she was being hit by darts, she says "That tickles". Then when she grabs the gun she says "I'll take that (crushes gun) thanks." Then punshes the guy who goes 50 feet into the air. He didn't hurt them, since they're Zeta androids.

The focus was on Supergirl. In the beginning, Green Arrow and Superman talk about her. Supes says that he wasn't that thrilled about her taking on the "family business" but he's accepted it. From Green Arrow's POV, he says that sometimes Supes seems to act like she is just "another cape" and that she does honor her cousin, as seen from the costume change.

We also get a forbidden love thing going on here with Brainiac & Supergirl. Green Arrow pointed it for our organic, acting almost like Vulcan friend. I said it was forbidden since....well I think you know why.

The animation was fine. The music, while it was pure JLU at the beginning, the rest was like it came from a Star Trek show. I think that wasn't bad because of the the Legion of Superheroes universe. And its ships and United Planets. But at times, I couldn't help but think it was ripped from an episode from....lets say Star Trek: Enterprise. Dini's story was great like always who have seen his work on shows. We don't have to worry that this was his last work on the DCAU, since he's working on the Detective Comics this time. He is now part of the folklore then just basing his work on it.

Overall, this was a great episode. Now from the fact that I didn't like the music at tiem would make you think I was gonna give it a lower grade but I ain't. This story was great; fantastic, sad at some times, funny at others. And with Supergirl, it made it cute. Dini hasn't lost his touch.

RATING: 8.5/10

Next up; Ancient History. With Hawkman's return, Vixen, Shayera, and Green Lantern. And finally, the love tri-....square will be resolved.

[OtepApe]

I liked the ep, but it cemented to me that I won't be nowhere near as pumped for a Legion show, then I am for the JLU show. I just don't want to see JLU go, I guess.

[Fuzzy Dude Fan]

I liked this episode, but I think its one of the very few JLU eps that would've benefited from the old one-hour format. Maybe if they knew they had more than 13 episodes this season, they would've made it one hour. It was good, but it felt a bit rushed. Especially Brainac 5 and Supergirl's romance. It was a nice send off for her and I liked the characterisation betweetn SG and GL, as well as SG and GA. Ollie, as always, was awesome. I wonder if there's any chance of a Green Arrow DTV somewhere down the line. Ha, Superman's line @ the end made me laugh so hard.

I'm really, really gonna miss this show. :(

[Fuzzy Dude Fan]

Double post, sorry!

[Pyrthas]

Yeah, I had the same reaction. The episode felt like nothing but the bare minimum of plot points, with some action thrown in because they needed to have some. It worked, and I liked it, but it seemed like it would have been much better with an hour.

Also, the ending was pretty obvious from the start, and I suspect that with a little more time, they could have built up to it slightly more gradually.

[jaydawg]

Wow. This is the first episode from season 5 I genuinly did not like. I mean it started out fine enough, but damn was this predictable. Paul Dini really has gone down hill since his BTAS. I can't believe the same guy who wrote "Harley and Ivy" and "Over the Edge" wrote this. Generic music, generic foes (shame too cause I actually like the Fatal Five), generic plot... just disappointed. At least monday's episode looks fantastic. John attacked in his own home? I'm so there. And we'll finally see John and Shayera get back together. Thank God.

[LobokDaikon]

It was annoying enough for them to imitate the jerky, hand-held camera look for fights before, but in this episode they used it for a bit on one of the aerial fights, which makes no sense. I don't ever remember the cameramen on COPS having jetpacks.

[zanos]

I didn't really like this episode. It was really rushed and not setup very well at all.

[IronLion]

i didnt really like this episode much, but it was probably written as a precursor/pilot to the los show that keeps getting mentioned.

oh the way this season is panning out, it seems that it is the last season, finishing stuff off and giving cameos here and there......

[Red]

Happy now Son_of_Kalibak?


I quite enjoyed this episode, it was nice that Supergirl got some focus.

Once again we saw the Green Arrow/Supergirl, big brother/little sister relationship, which I alwayed from way back in Fearful Symmetry. We also got to see Supermans's thoughts on SG living in his shadow. As i said earlier the main focus was Supergirl, so aswell as seeing Kara's "big brother" and "Cousin" we also get her mentor Green Lantern, and it seems in his eyes she doesn't need anymore training.

Anyway see also go to see the legion of Superheroes!...well two of them bouncing boy and Brainiac 5. It was interesting to see a group of heroes in the future it was more Star Trek than JLU. Now on to the Brainiac Supergirl romance, it could have worked if it wasn't so quick they did love each other.

**** 1/2 out of 5

[Movies205]

The creators seem to be wrapping everything up, which makes me happy. They don't really have enough time to do what everything they probably want do so I can give them a little wee-way in terms of rushing.

Any the GA parts are great :up: My only problem with JLU is the dialouge some of it's just really bad :( Anyway I thought the episode was great :up:

[Lightspeed]

This whole episode would have been worth it to see Superman's reaction if GL and GA told him the name of the boy that Kara liked. Alas they didn't :mad:

[Binker]

I couldn't stop myself: on my review for JLU's final episode, I will have something special for you fans.

For you who know what this is, please DO NOT tell anyone else.

[hippie_hunter]

I found it funny that Supergirl said that she wanted to cop a feel on Brainiac 5

[Hush]

Im tight lipped Binker.

[Son_of_Kalibak]

Happy now Son_of_Kalibak?


I quite enjoyed this episode, it was nice that Supergirl got some focus.

Once again we saw the Green Arrow/Supergirl, big brother/little sister relationship, which I alwayed from way back in Fearful Symmetry. We also got to see Supermans's thoughts on SG living in his shadow. As i said earlier the main focus was Supergirl, so aswell as seeing Kara's "big brother" and "Cousin" we also get her mentor Green Lantern, and it seems in his eyes she doesn't need anymore training.

Anyway see also go to see the legion of Superheroes!...well two of them bouncing boy and Brainiac 5. It was interesting to see a group of heroes in the future it was more Star Trek than JLU. Now on to the Brainiac Supergirl romance, it could have worked if it wasn't so quick they did love each other.

**** 1/2 out of 5

Lol, I was just messin' with ya. I just thought it was funny that the reviews never came.:D

[Generation Lee]

Nice to see SG come out and show she no week super hero like alot of women appear in various shows, comics.

But and I just watched it this morning, almost made me late for work, it was rushed a two parter or at least a follow up would be nice to introduce people to what comming next.

And for the love of God give SG a proper long bellowing cape I'm sick of those pieces of rags they gave her a BG.

[Red]

Lol, I was just messin' with ya. I just thought it was funny that the reviews never came.:D

Fair enough

[guyverfanboy]

Did anyone notice reference to Crisis on Inifinite Earths, where GL is holding Supergirl's body after she got the crap beaten out of her?

[Red]

Did anyone notice reference to Crisis on Inifinite Earths, where GL is holding Supergirl's body after she got the crap beaten out of her?

Nope, i noticed it too.

[guyverfanboy]

Nope, i noticed it too.

Glad to see someone else noticed it too. :)

[Binker]

I noticed it, just didn't feel like mentioning it. Because it might've spoiled people on the whole story.

[FCEEVIPER]

Like it, 7/10.

[Red]

bump

[TheGrayGhost]

I am hoping the episode will be good. I like Supergirl.

[Red]

bump

[3dman27]

I found it funny that Supergirl said that she wanted to cop a feel on Brainiac 5
supes would've lost his lunch on hering the name" brainiac"

[Anubis]

Lookin forward to this one. Long live the Legion.

[dcbmp]

No Far From Home. Bo Bo Bo instead :mad:

[jaydawg]

Dont be angry. This episode was terrible.

[Unleashed]

GOD DAMN ANIME!!!!:mad:

[rnewbz]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They change the schedule at the last minute and show crap. I waited all day for this. CN sucks.

[Anubis]

And they wonder why people DL episodes. Total bulls**t.

[The Question]

****ing Chuck Norris.




Uhhhhh......



I mean, ****ing Cartoon Network.


Has anyone put this episode up on Youtube? If not, where could I download it?

[WOLVERINE25TH]

What kinda crap is this? Coulda been playin' my game but held off fer JL, an' it wasn't even ON!?

[Hush]

Well i dont know about you guys but I kinda saw this comming with all the scheduling differences. So i spent the night with my Girlfriend. IMO that was so much better than the alternative, watching Tv by myself. Plus watching chick-flicks totally scores you brownie points.

[celldog]

CN totally stinks......

[The Question]

I can't believe I'm saying this (well, typing this, but you get the idea), but I agree with celldog.

[jaydawg]

What kinda crap is this? Coulda been playin' my game but held off fer JL, an' it wasn't even ON!?
Well you could have spent that time learning to type like a normal person.:)

[Anubis]

nice burn. I woulda went with a masterbation joke in reference to this mysterious "Game" he coulda been playing, but that works too.

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Jay, come say that to my face one day an' we'll see how many teeth you walk away with.

[celldog]

I can't believe I'm saying this (well, typing this, but you get the idea), but I agree with celldog.



GASP!!! :eek:

[jaydawg]

Jay, come say that to my face one day an' we'll see how many teeth you walk away with.
And we'll see how many stories you get published.:)

[The Question]

GASP!!!



I know. Hopefully it's a one time ocurrance.

[Cryostar1177]

Well lets face it...CN already figures you're all pissed at them for cancelling one of their better shows, do they have anything to lose by ticking you off any more?

I don't know if World's Finest has screen grabs up yet or not...but there are a couple on my site: http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/

Here's a taste
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home007.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home015.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home024.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home025.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home042.JPG

[3dman27]

Nice Pics Chrystar Thanks

[Cryostar1177]

most welcome, if anyone wants a specific cap, let me know, and I can get it for you....I have a small amount of free space, so I can post it up or e-mail it.

[Amalgamax]

epguides.com says "Far From Home" will be broadcast in the U.S. on April 8th.

[3dman27]

thanks

[Cryostar1177]

Thanks for the update...

I can't find this in help, so I'll ask the newbie question here, how many posts until you can choose your own avie?

[TheBlueWolf]

Wow see there, that is exactly how the LOS animation style should be...

There is nothing THE BATMAN about that style...so why screw up a good thing??? :mad:

[Cryostar1177]

Because that's an adult style....and kids like exaggeration.....

[Anubis]

So, anybody else catch tonights ep?

[CaptainStacy]

So, anybody else catch tonights ep?

I did.

I enjoyed it.

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When i heard them say one of the League wouldn't be returning, i remembered that Supergirl was involved with the Legion in the comics way back when, so it was immediately apparent to me she would be the one.

That didnt take my enjoyment away one bit though.
Very solid episode, and that was MY first time seeing the Legion animated...

They worked surprisingly well.

[Cryostar1177]

I wish we could have seen more of the league...it was all just too quick. This would have been a great hour long episode.

[Batgort]

Is this going to springboard the new legion series, and will Bruce Timm and co. be working on it (OH GOD PLEASE YES)

[Dread]

Despite the fact that JLU has been off the airwaves for months now, and that it only has a few episodes left, I was not looking foward to "Far From Home". I've done nothing but bashed and dreaded the episode since I heard about it. After all, I'm not a fan of the Legion of Superheroes OR Supergirl. In fact I just about felt that Kara'd worn out her welcome by "Chaos at the Earth's Core". And out of all the LOSH's members, Bouncing Boy just seems silly. Plus, while Paul Dini's past B:TAS stories have been great, his JLU work hasn't been so great; "The Little Piggy" had its moments but overall wasn't exactly "Comfort and Joy" or "Harley and Ivy" here. So my expectations were very, very low.

After having seen the episode, that feeling was a bit harsh. "Far from Home" is hardly a terrific episode, but is a comfortable average, entertaining episode. Not one to fear if you missed it, because it's pretty much the definition of "filler", but one that didn't leave me scowling at the end. There are about a dozen things I would have rather seen in a JLU episode as the show winds down, and a few bits were predictable or heavy-handed, but, well, it wasn't as bad as I feared. And at least it involved slightly more than "let's have chicks fight!".

The episode begins in the 33rd century, where Brainiac-5 and Bouncing Boy (snicker) are the last members of the LOSH who are not captured by their enemies, the Fatal Five. Despite the risks of time-travel mucking, Brainiac-5 with his "12th level intellect" (y'know, at one point I was a 17th level Vampire in high school RPG's, but I didn't brag about it), Brainiac-5 feels they have no option but to bring in heroes from the past to help them. After all, their history records claim that 3 heroes from the 21st century DO have an adventure in their time, and now of course has to be the time. So they activate their "time bubble" and off it goes.

It picks B'Wanna Beast, Creeper, and Vibe. The universe ends.

Kidding. Fortunately their luck was better.

Back in the present, Supergirl is celebrating her 21st birthday by beating the heck out of some simulated villians under the instruction of Green Lantern, and the supervision of Superman. Green Arrow is also on-hand to watch, and am I the only one CREEPED OUT that he seems to spend an aweful lot of time around a girl about 10 years younger than him? And he's NOT BATMAN? After a few runs, GL claims that he has nothing left to teach her (as no one on the JLU seems to give a damn about property damage while they're smashing people into buildings/streets), while GA and Superman have a chat. GA notes how Kara refused to go out clubbing with he and Canary (again, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU INVITING A THIRD WHEEL, YOU SICKO) and that despite Superman's insistance on letting her be her own woman and escape his shadow, that she does likely want to get closer to him and take on the "family business". The dialogue is all nice, superhero mature stuff. However, when GA joins the pair in the training area, the time bubble envelops all of them, and vanishes before Superman can free them.

DAMN, talk about bad luck! Five seconds away from having Superman on your team, instead you're stuck with a guy with arrows. If I knew, I'd be pissed.

The trio are zipped to the future, and Kara immediately starts hammering on Brainiac-5, as he is, well, a Brainaic. Fortunately, while in the future Brainiac has moved onto biological life, the kid here is a good guy, making up for his evil legacy. And Bouncing Boy is a fat ass who bounces. Fans/writers only like him because (or if) he usually fits their physique. No one else does. No one. But I'll admit he could have been worse here; in this episode he's tolerable. They indicate that they were deperate and the heroes were picked at random, and explain their situation. The trio naturally agree to help them, although Brainiac-5 and Bouncing Boy know a secret; one of them WON'T return home to the past, and as Supergirl's data file ends at a certain point, it's likely that it is her. Meanwhile, Kara finds Brainiac-5 "cute". Anyone else predict where this is going? Because if you did, you won't be wrong.

In the hallway, the gang are attacked by two of the Fatal Five, Emerald Empress (with her hover-eye) and the axe-carrying Persauder (what the heck does an axe have to do with "persuading"? The CHOPPER would be more accurate! Least he looks cool). In short fashion they overpower the heroes and manage to successfully capture Bouncing Boy and Green Lantern (turns out GL's are rare in the 33rd century). This leaves Green Arrow, Supergirl and Brainiac-5 to mount a rescue. Green Arrow notes how he can tell that the kids are "hot" for each other. But they don't use an accurate term like "you like her" or "attraction". No, they say "in love", which is inane. They just met 20 MINUTES AGO. Love is deeper. It is impossible to be in love at that time. The terminology is important because while this romance between the pair was cute, it was very heavy-handed and the terminology did not help. Turns out after a few seasons of not mentioning anything, Kara misses the hi-tech of her home planet of Argus, and manages to connect to Brainiac-5. Meanwhile, Green Arrow decides to pilfer some "future tech" for his arrows; safe so long as he doesn't bring any back in time.

They track the Fatal Five via GL's communicator and find them en route to attack some peace-loving planet that they have a mad-on for destroying. Their full roster includes a half-cyborg (Tharok), a massive guy who displays his brain (Validus) and Mono, named after a deadly sexual infection (not really; he just has currosive hands that he apparently can't turn off). Supergirl is the only one of then who can defend the planet from an army of brainwashed superheroes, so despite fears of her death, she goes for it. Meanwhile, Brainiac-5 and GA crash into the Five's spaceship via a kamakazi/"like in Star Wars, the bigger the ship, the worse it does against a tiny opponent" sort of plan. Mono ends up being TRIPPED and defeated, but the pair are quickly on their route to be Five-food. Supergirl does her best to fight all comers, and does it better than Superman has, like, EVER done (I've never seen him take on more then 3 people at once without being slapped) in any episode that wasn't "Dead Reckoning", although she takes a devistating amount of damage. The mind control is deactivated, but GL fears he's killed her, and they stand around to ape a pose from CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, which was classy. The Five get dusted, naturally.

The LOSH make them "honorary members", but they can't take the decoder rings into the past, so basically they hand them to GA and GL, only to get them handed back. Supergirl, meanwhile, chooses to stay. Whoops, guess her history vanishes not because she dies, but because she chooses to stay in the future. But wait! Maybe she DID die and only because she was warned about it, that she lived, but something else came along and made history right. Who knows? The point is, had this been a "storyarc" for Kara, that she'd felt out of place and alone, then it would have worked better. Instead, we basically had her being shoved off in this episode, and it felt rushed. She's willing to throw away her whole life just because Brainiac-5's cute? Oh, well. Maybe I'm too used to TMNT, where a character shift sometimes takes place in, like, more than one episode.

GL and GA return, and hand a worried Superman a message box from Kara, where she explains her reasoning for staying in the future, and hopes that Superman understands. Clark is saddened that he didn't get a chance to say farewell to her, but GA assures him that "she knew how you felt" in typical "cop drama" style dialogue. The episode ends on a cute note as Superman asks to know the name of Kara's boyfriend (and saying "Brainiac" is about as bad an answer as you can get aside for "Luthor" or "Wayne").

All in all, an enjoyable, if generic, episode. While I like Green Arrow, I feel this episode would have been a lot stronger had Superman went along instead of GL. That way we WOULD have seen him say farewell. Perhaps he could have been the one to thrash Supergirl under mind control and we'd have had a DIRECT homage to "Crisis on Infinite Earths". Plus, Clark and Kara barely had 5 minutes of interaction time together since the end of S:TAS. The LOSH technically showed up once before, in "The New Kids in Town", circa 1998, but no allusion to that was made, and the Legionarres involved (Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl and Chameloan Boy) only served as canon fodder for Kara. Despite how heavy-handed the Brainiac-5/Kara romance was, it was cute (at times) and having Superman play a bigger role would have made the episode better, IMO. Green Lantern'll be appearing next episode, anyway; he could have sat one out.

So, this episode didn't deserve a lot of my scorn. On the other hand, there may have been better uses for an episode than giving Kara a farewell. The episode could have been better. But after no JLU for about a month, any JLU is a welcome sight. And if the next 3 episodes are better than this, the show may go out on a bang after all.

[dcbmp]

Is it just me, or did the artists seem to go wild with having Supergirl's costume ripped?

Pretty good episode (from what I had seen posted I expected MUCH worse). Although I would have liked another LOD episode instead. Maybe to look deeper into why Tala swiches over to Grodd's side? Cause I have a feeling the switching of sides is going to be done within the first five minutes.

[CaptainStacy]

Despite the fact that JLU has been off the airwaves for months now, and that it only has a few episodes left, I was not looking foward to "Far From Home". I've done nothing but bashed and dreaded the episode since I heard about it. After all, I'm not a fan of the Legion of Superheroes OR Supergirl. In fact I just about felt that Kara'd worn out her welcome by "Chaos at the Earth's Core". And out of all the LOSH's members, Bouncing Boy just seems silly. Plus, while Paul Dini's past B:TAS stories have been great, his JLU work hasn't been so great; "The Little Piggy" had its moments but overall wasn't exactly "Comfort and Joy" or "Harley and Ivy" here. So my expectations were very, very low.

After having seen the episode, that feeling was a bit harsh. "Far from Home" is hardly a terrific episode, but is a comfortable average, entertaining episode. Not one to fear if you missed it, because it's pretty much the definition of "filler", but one that didn't leave me scowling at the end.


I thought it was a bit more than just "filler".

To me, an appearance of the Legion, and the LAST appearance of Supergirl qualify it as a significant episode.

I thought the pacing was perfect as well. Everything wrapped up tightly, no need to draw it out into a multi-part epic.

Often times, less is more, imo.

[Anubis]

I just enjoyed watching her beat the crap out of them to tell you the truth. I would have thought Ultra Boy would have put up more of a fight. Sure he was being mind controled, but still. Would have been sweet if Mon El was there too.

[Amalgamax]

Mono, named after a deadly sexual infection (not really; he just has currosive hands that he apparently can't turn off)It's Mano, not Mono, taken from the Latin word for "hand".
am I the only one CREEPED OUT that he seems to spend an aweful lot of time around a girl about 10 years younger than him?Yes, you are, because the rest of us can imagine a relationship that does not center around sex.
Meanwhile, Kara finds Brainiac-5 "cute". Anyone else predict where this is going?Same place it was in LOSH comics since the mid 1960s. Which, I suppose, makes it "required" for the tv show.

Other than those points, nice review. Thanks.

[Mister J]

(Great review, Dread)

I often find myself in the minority when it comes to Supergirl. Regardless of the medium, I've always had an affinity for the character. From that standpoint, I was glad her featured in another episode.

Far From Home had some quality moments. In fact, it had several. However, the way Kara decided to stay almost seemed whimsical. Her reasons were clearly stated (including the ever-messy reference to time travel and continuity), but it was a bit abrupt, even though you saw it coming. It would have resonated better if Superman was more than an idle party. I know that he had faith in and understood Kara's decision, but the end result was just a little too neat for me. Having Superman see Supergirl in action and being able to fully appreciate her rationale, rather than have it reported to him, would have capped it off nicely. They offered us somthing close to that, but it wasn't driven home as thoroughly as it could have been.

Criticism aside, I did enjoy the episode. Kara's fortitude and strength as a hero really showed. They've allowed the character to mature noticeably since her initial appearance on S:TAS. I would liked her feel that she was able to fully blossom within the League, but her reasoning was understandable. Supergirl handled herself beautifully here. It was good to see her sense of duty and asserting herself as an adult.

This ep doesn't have any impact on this season's central arc, but it is solid.

[dcbmp]

Yes, you are, because the rest of us can imagine a relationship that does not center around sex.

Green Arrow

"I'm going down to upgrade my arrows...so you two will be alone....together....for a very long time.."


Now, if they had just shown the door closing and then switched to Green Arrow updating his arrows. There'd be high fives all over the place here.

Even though they showed Supergirl and Brainiac 5 talking after GA left, Green arrow still comes off(IMO) as a pervert. It sounded like he was saying "I'll be gone so long, you have time to have sex if you want to".

[The Batman]

I could never really get into the legion of superheroes. Too many damn heroes, i guess. I wouldve liked to see more notable legion characters, but this ep was "Eh". wouldnt watch it twice, to tell you the truth

[Dread]

I thought it was a bit more than just "filler".

To me, an appearance of the Legion, and the LAST appearance of Supergirl qualify it as a significant episode.

I thought the pacing was perfect as well. Everything wrapped up tightly, no need to draw it out into a multi-part epic.

Often times, less is more, imo.
As I stated, I'm not a big fan of Supergirl or the Legion of Superheroes. I do concede, though, that as Supergirl's been featured prominantly in JLU (she's got nearly as many episodes under her belt as Green Arrow or Question), that her final fate serves some purpose. It just felt rushed.

The episode also seemed to rely on the viewer having SOME partial knowledge of the LOSH (or having seen "The New Kids on the Block" from S:TAS, from about 7+ years ago), because very little general information is given, and very few of the characters are introduced. There are ways this episode could have been stronger. Maybe involved at least ONE of the Legionarres from "New Kids", as well as having Superman along for the general ride. That was my main quibble. It would have been a much stronger episode if you switched GL for Superman in almost every way. More emotional, more dramatic, etc.

About the only thing I liked about the LOSH is that theirs is a future that, for once in comics, is not some dark, post-apocalyptic nightmare (as most "alternate futures" are). And I have to admit that I ended up liking Brainiac-5, so chalk him up to another satisfying Timmverse rendition.

I still enjoyed the episode more than I expected, but maybe because I'd been sort of "braced" for something quite dire. "Chaos at the Earth's Core" is still, IMO, the season's worst episode, and THAT one had the "LOD" subplot.

It's Mano, not Mono, taken from the Latin word for "hand".
Duely noted. At least I'm not a politician, otherwise I wouldn't let little things like "facts" get in the way of my statements. ;)

Far From Home had some quality moments. In fact, it had several. However, the way Kara decided to stay almost seemed whimsical. Her reasons were clearly stated (including the ever-messy reference to time travel and continuity), but it was a bit abrupt, even though you saw it coming. It would have resonated better if Superman was more than an idle party. I know that he had faith in and understood Kara's decision, but the end result was just a little too neat for me. Having Superman see Supergirl in action and being able to fully appreciate her rationale, rather than have it reported to him, would have capped it off nicely. They offered us somthing close to that, but it wasn't driven home as thoroughly as it could have been.

Criticism aside, I did enjoy the episode. Kara's fortitude and strength as a hero really showed. They've allowed the character to mature noticeably since her initial appearance on S:TAS. I would liked her feel that she was able to fully blossom within the League, but her reasoning was understandable. Supergirl handled herself beautifully here. It was good to see her sense of duty and asserting herself as an adult.

This ep doesn't have any impact on this season's central arc, but it is solid.
I naturally agree, a larger role for Superman would have made the episode a lot stronger. I also disliked that they had to use the term "in love" to make the Brainiac-5/Supergirl romance even MORE heavy-handed. I mean, would remaining in the future because you "like" some boy be a bit irrational? Yes! But 21 isn't 87! People are still allowed to make slightly irrational decisions at that age because of attraction (hell, people at 35 often make such mistakes).

Plus, "Flash and Substance" sort of raised the bar a bit for "one shot" episodes this season.

[Pksoze]

The way some posters have been talking about this episode it seemed it would be total crap.

It wasn't, it was pretty fun actually. This episode was probably paced too quickly with the Braniac & Supergirl attraction.

Anyway the only thing I didn't really like was that Green Arrow knew Superman's identity.

Seriously he wont tell Lois but a mid level hero like Green Arrow knows. ehhhh

[jaydawg]

I have to agree with almost all of Dread's comments here. Although, Ollie was much more "cupid" than "middle aged sex starved pervet" to me in this ep. Not including any of the "NKiT" LoSH members is just a big mistake. Honestly, who thinks that not directly including Supes in this episode is a good idea? Frankly the sole thing that worked for me in this episode was the building of relationships. GL now considers Kara an equal, closing the relationship that started between them so long ago in "Initiation" (and at the very least developing it further unlike the half assed ending that was "Ancient History," but thats an arguement for later). Supes finally talks about Kara, since....what? Legacy part 2? Oh and Ollie knows Supes ID. Little things like that always improve episodes for me.

[Morgoth]

That was really predictable, how they said one didn't return, and how GA said to Supes how she's from a planet with technology way beyond our own, I was like yep, she'll be staying.

But, still a good episode. I don't think I've seen a JL I didn't like.

[DOG LIPS]

I missed it!!! Vader: NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! :(

[TheGrayGhost]

I missed it!!! Vader: NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! :(

Me too.:mad:

[Warhammer]

**SPOILER**

Far From Home was a not so bad episode.
It was nothing but a filler episode, but was a significant episode in the DCAU, showing Supergirl's last appearance and showing the Legion of Superheroes. (which I could care less for) The episode had some pretty good features including a very good finishing fight between Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes, a love interest between Brainiac 5 and Supergirl, and Green Arrow (beast) :).

Overall, It was an near above-average episode.
A very good final fight scene and a good send-off of Supergirl.

I'd rate it a 7/10.


If the upcoming Legion of Superheroes toon followed this, I would be happy to see it. Unfortunately, the new series will not be set in the DCAU, let alone Post-Crisis DC Universe. It is going to be a non-DCAU, Pre-Crisis piece of crap. Oh well, Goodbye DCAU forever.

:cool:

[DOG LIPS]

Someone let me know when it pops up on YT. Please. :(:up:

[Warhammer]

I missed it also last night, but that didn't stop me from watching it.

[Morgoth]

http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home007.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home015.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home024.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home025.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice_League_Unlimited_-_5x10_-_Far_From_Home042.JPGAw, cool!

[Rowen]

I missed it also, but i didn't know that CN didn't even air it:mad:!!! i hope that it pops up on youtube so i can watch it, cause i don't download epsidoes.

[batnkevlar]

Cartoon Network has ****ed up big time... WB cares **** about their DC comics shows...

I'm sorry to see Timm and Dini go... the sad thing is, CN'll still stand without quality DC stuff, cuz kids eat up their anime crap...

[Morgoth]

Cartoon Network has ****ed up big time... WB cares **** about their DC comics shows...

I'm sorry to see Timm and Dini go... the sad thing is, CN'll still stand without quality DC stuff, cuz kids eat up their anime crap...It ticks me off how kids have no taste anymore. If I was a kid and saw crap like Teen Titans I wouldn't watch it. I'm glad I had good shows growing up. And it is so sad what has happened to the DC animated universe.

The Batman should be canceled, not JL.

Who knows how soon till there will be another good series.

It's a shame, very sad. I know it can't last forever but it deserved to be treated better than this. At least I can still get the dvds of JL, Batman and Superman TAS.

[Warhammer]

I am 15 now.
I am glad that the best cartoons and DCAU came out when I was younger.
I had good taste when I was a kid.

:cool:

[Warhammer]

It ticks me off how kids have no taste anymore. If I was a kid and saw crap like Teen Titans I wouldn't watch it. I'm glad I had good shows growing up. And it is so sad what has happened to the DC animated universe.

The Batman should be canceled, not JL.

Who knows how soon till there will be another good series.

It's a shame, very sad. I know it can't last forever but it deserved to be treated better than this. At least I can still get the dvds of JL, Batman and Superman TAS.

Amen, brother.

[TheGrayGhost]

It ticks me off how kids have no taste anymore. If I was a kid and saw crap like Teen Titans I wouldn't watch it. I'm glad I had good shows growing up. And it is so sad what has happened to the DC animated universe.

The Batman should be canceled, not JL.

Who knows how soon till there will be another good series.

It's a shame, very sad. I know it can't last forever but it deserved to be treated better than this. At least I can still get the dvds of JL, Batman and Superman TAS.

Well, it's the networks who keep producing bad cartoons. You can't blame the kids if that's all they have to watch. But there are a handful of quality cartoons out there.

[3dman27]

It ticks me off how kids have no taste anymore. If I was a kid and saw crap like Teen Titans I wouldn't watch it. I'm glad I had good shows growing up. And it is so sad what has happened to the DC animated universe.

The Batman should be canceled, not JL.

Who knows how soon till there will be another good series.

It's a shame, very sad. I know it can't last forever but it deserved to be treated better than this. At least I can still get the dvds of JL, Batman and Superman TAS.
i'm wirh you

[celldog]

It ticks me off how kids have no taste anymore. If I was a kid and saw crap like Teen Titans I wouldn't watch it. I'm glad I had good shows growing up. And it is so sad what has happened to the DC animated universe.

The Batman should be canceled, not JL.

Who knows how soon till there will be another good series.

It's a shame, very sad. I know it can't last forever but it deserved to be treated better than this. At least I can still get the dvds of JL, Batman and Superman TAS.


I second that!! My eyes bleed while I sit thru the last 3 min of Bobobobobo.

[DOG LIPS]

I hate Bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo. :mad:

[celldog]

Lesson one: Make sure you always tell those you love, how you feel about them while you have the chance. Clark lost his chance.

[Cryostar1177]

That's ok, he'll live long enough to make it up to her :P

By the way, Brave and Bold put up their review....as well as screen caps. Here's the link.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jlu/episodes/farfromhome/

And a couple of images...

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jlu/episodes/farfromhome/28.jpg
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jlu/episodes/farfromhome/Pan04.jpg

[Morgoth]

Amen, brother.Right on! :)

[Morgoth]

I second that!! My eyes bleed while I sit thru the last 3 min of Bobobobobo.I know what you mean. My nephews won't even watch that crap. There are some kids who just vedge out in front of a tv and don't care what it is. It's horrible. Some are being brought up on this crap and don't know what good is.

[Warhammer]

Cartoons now-a-days are very stupid.
They are so pointless and very stupid also.
Cartoons were so much better when I was young.
They made sense and are enjoyable.
Not stupid and immature like Spongebob and all that other s***.

None of this Bobobo, Zatch Bell, Everything else on CN, etc are as good as any toon in the 90's.

Oh well, at least I grew up with the DCAU.

[celldog]

Anybody think that Kara was just a little too "forward" with Brainy?? I guess I'm old fashioned. But geez.......she came on a little too strong for me. In my hood we called those girls freaks.

[Anubis]

I perfur a little forwardness in a woman. I'm a lazy man and I don't like the chase.

[Mister J]

Anybody think that Kara was just a little too "forward" with Brainy?? I guess I'm old fashioned. But geez.......she came on a little too strong for me. In my hood we called those girls freaks.

That's how they get down on Argo.

[Dread]

Anybody think that Kara was just a little too "forward" with Brainy?? I guess I'm old fashioned. But geez.......she came on a little too strong for me. In my hood we called those girls freaks.
Naturally the relationship was "rushed" for plot purposes. My quibble was why they couldn't have been accurate and said that they "liked" each other or were "attracted". No, they had to say "in love", which is not possible after 20 minutes.

Aside for that, I didn't mind Supergirl being the aggressor in the romance. It's about time some stereotypes about relationships hit the dustbin of history. Besides, even in 2006, it is rare to see female characters doing the "chasing" in comic cartoons. So I didn't mind.

[Cryostar1177]

I beg to differ Dread....there have been people that have been married after knowing each for a mere 20 to 30 minutes, and lived together for 50+ years. It happens. I'm not saying it's the rule, or even a significant minority...but it happens.

I still think kara should have been fully capable of taking out the whole legion and GL by herself. Boyscout did it, she's got the same powers, just lacks experience.

[Rowen]

I thought this epsidoe was great, i know now not judge an episdoe by somone elses opinion. cause when i missed it, alot of posters said it sucked & you didn't miss anything, well i beg to differ, cause it was great!.

i to find it odd that kara chose to stay with braniac 5 & not go back to the past/present with GL & GA. yes it is heard of people falling in love with in the first 15 minutes.

but usually when people meet they like to find out how a person ticks before they decide if they want to engage in a relationship. witch usually takes acuople of weeks or even months. cause it is pointless to just dive right into a relationship you haven't even explored yet.

i wouldn't be surprised to see in the near future, that braniac 5 cheated on kara or vise versa. atfer pondering about if for a cuople of seconds i agree & disagre with Dread & mister j about if superman went along instead of GL that the strory would have had a better impact.

on one side of the coin it would of had its benifits like you guys have stated , but on the other side, superman would have been a glory hog & it would of showcased him beating the tar out of everybody & we wouldn't gotten to see kara/supergirl & the other hereos fight & showcase their powers & weaknessess.

ex: (the fight scene when kara had to fight GL & the other LOSH.) we got to see kara grow even morso as a fighter. she handled her self very well agaisnt GL & LOSH.
agian if superman was thier, all he would have done was flone right in thier & took them down with a one.....two.... puch combo knock out.

so im glad he wasn't in it. cause it would of been all about superman, the glory hog & what he can do to stop the bad guys, witch we already seen 100 times. "reminder" this epsidoe wasn't about superman, it was about kara/supergirls suppsoedly last appearace.

[rigel7soldiers]

this is one of my least favorite episodes. It surprised me how much I disliked it.

Gripes: Green Arrow gives counsel to a complete stranger. he never even did that to Roy, damn.

tharok- I love Tharok, but how does that outfit stay on?
Validus- Supergirl killed Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad's son, Validus.
Mano fell down a hole when he was tripped. God...
the relationship thing was rushed severely. God, didn't the comics cultivate that relationship over years, or something?

to those in the know, the plot was painfully obvious from the beginning

triplicate girl - She wasn't even in the background or anything. Same with Dawnstar, though they did include Blok. Why not just go the whole nine yards, get Quislet and Tyroc in there?

[celldog]

It was mentioned twice that the "Green Lantern" was the more powerful between Kara and GL. Huh?????

I don't buy that. John Stewart can barely keep from get pushed back or his contructs shattered. :supes:

[Cryostar1177]

If it had been Hal, they would have kicked some major a##