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raybia
02-02-2006, 04:00 PM
THE "REAL" BATMAN
Author: Jett
Wednesday, February 1, 2006
Who is the “real” Batman?
Is he The Dark Knight? Or is he The Caped Crusader?
Is his suit a costume or battle gear? And is it gray and black, blue and gray, or all black? Does he wear tights or body armor? Is his bat symbol found within a yellow oval or spread wide across his chest?
Does the real Batman have long or short ears on his cowl? Are his eyes covered by lenses? Is the cape for theatricality, or does it have a specific function?
Does his utility belt have pouches like a policeman or a soldier, or does it have narrow cylinders?
Does he use a batarang and rope to get from building to building, or a grapling gun instead?
Is Bruce Wayne psychotic, crazy perhaps? Or is he just really dedicated to his “mission?”
Does his universe exist in a dark, macabre, fantastic netherworld? Or does he exist in a place almost as “real” as ours -- just with a few “odd” characters?
Is he The Bat-Man who doesn’t oppose carrying a lethal weapon and using it from time to time? Is he Batman whose adventures may take him into outer space or back in time? Is he Batman, honorary member of the Gotham City Police Force. Is he The Batman, Darknight Detective -- a vigilante solving crimes much like a freaky, badass Sherlock Holmes?
Does the real Batman only appear at night, or could we find him in the middle of the day at some public event?
Should the real Batman operate solo, or should he have allies such as Robin? Was Ace The Bat-hound, Bat-Woman, Bat-Girl, and Bat-Mite ever part of the real Batman’s world?
Was the 60s TV show with Adam West the real Batman?
On the big screen, was the real Batman realized in BATMAN? BATMAN RETURNS? BATMAN FOREVER? BATMAN AND ROBIN? Or perhaps BATMAN BEGINS?
Right now, think “Batman,” envision him with your mind's eye. There he is, see him?
The real Batman.
So the answer to all these questions is a collective “yes,” because the only “real” Batman is the one that exists in our heads.
And in the hearts of all Batman fans as well.
"Jett" is the editor-in-chief of BATMAN ON FILM and BATMAN IN COMICS.
ChrisBaleBatman
02-02-2006, 04:41 PM
Wow. Aboslutely, postively right on the nail. That IS The REAL Batman. The one each of us see in our minds and hearts, and honestly.....no a single person can tell any of us differently, wheter you see the real Batman as Keaton, or as Kilmer or as Bale........not a single person can convince any of us as to which is the REAL one because honestly, they all are to different people.
raybia
02-02-2006, 04:53 PM
Wow. Aboslutely, postively right on the nail. That IS The REAL Batman. The one each of us see in our minds and hearts, and honestly.....no a single person can tell any of us differently, wheter you see the real Batman as Keaton, or as Kilmer or as Bale........not a single person can convince any of us as to which is the REAL one because honestly, they all are to different people.
Yeah I thought the same thing. Its really a good article.
I really really love Bale's performance as Bruce Wayne/Batman (Not to take anything away from Keaton, the only actors I can take em or leave. Adam West is in a category ALL by himself - nothing but love for him.
However, when I close my eyes, the Batman I see is...from TAS. That is MY Batman.
I don't know if its possible to ever translate that into a live action movie though.
ChrisBaleBatman
02-02-2006, 05:03 PM
No, I don't it is. BTAS had soooo many qulities that live action films can never even dream of copying. Everything just meshed perfectly.
For me, it's BATMAN BEGINS. I see a Batman wearing black armor and using the playboy image to keep his persona under wraps.
Katsuro
02-02-2006, 05:14 PM
I see either Batman Begins, or Batman from more recent comics, usually as drawn by Jim Lee. Either way, he's serious and he's dark. His costume, whether cloth or armor, is sans-nipples.
raybia
02-02-2006, 05:15 PM
For me, it's BATMAN BEGINS. I see a Batman wearing black armor and using the playboy image to keep his persona under wraps.
Yeah I agree, but credit Goyer for pulling that image straight from the comics.
The source material is just too rich for directors to keep ignoring it kudos to Nolan for doing so. Kudos to Burton in doing that in B'89 (WHAT IN THE HELL HAPPEN WITH BR THOUGH?)
ChrisBaleBatman
02-02-2006, 05:45 PM
Ya know, Burton certainly had a handle on an aspect of the character. HIS Batman was very much like the original Bob Kane and Bill Finger version.....and VERY much like Frank Miller's DKR, a Batman that is just very very dark.....and pretty damn violent. So, Burton did take things from a certain aspect of the character.......I just feel he strayed a little bit too far, like Napier being the Wayne Murderer was too much for me.
Schumacher though, he didn't get the character at all and doesn't seem to have much respect or think seriously of the comics........which is a HUGE "No-No" for me. Burton really dove in and approached his films the same way he approached others.....which is like a real film. Schumacher seems to have just taken Batman as a "fun film" like a vactional film or something......
Two-Face
02-02-2006, 06:52 PM
Shumacher is fan of 60s TV Batman show, I doubt he ever read a single Batman comic.
Nightwing1977
02-02-2006, 06:59 PM
Wow. Aboslutely, postively right on the nail. That IS The REAL Batman. The one each of us see in our minds and hearts, and honestly.....no a single person can tell any of us differently, wheter you see the real Batman as Keaton, or as Kilmer or as Bale........not a single person can convince any of us as to which is the REAL one because honestly, they all are to different people.
I concur. :up: The Batman to me is the one who doesn't kill crazy like Keaton's Batman. And also it a tie between Batman:TAS, Batman in the comics, & BB's Batman as which is the true Batman to me. :batman:
El Payaso
02-02-2006, 08:43 PM
So the answer to all these questions is a collective “yes,” because the only “real” Batman is the one that exists in our heads.
Right. But old very old news.
ChrisBaleBatman
02-02-2006, 09:44 PM
Yeah, but it's good to always be reminded. And honestly, not enough people know.
Nightwing1977
02-03-2006, 03:12 AM
Yeah, but it's good to always be reminded. And honestly, not enough people know.
Well, we all know Batwing6655 doesn't know this for sure. He probably will ignore it too. LOL!
White_Howling
02-03-2006, 03:14 AM
Batman TAS is the batman for me..
also the story arc no mans land and knight fall. that was batman at his best
Mr. Socko
02-03-2006, 06:49 PM
Great read just there, was short but perfect. First time I've heard that, and it's absolutely true. Batman Begins was great, and showed a good Batman, but not the exact one I know.
spencer6891
02-03-2006, 10:17 PM
Wouldn't it be interesting if every Batfan could express his own idea of Batman through a comic/film? That would be a lot of fun if it were possible. :batman:
Kal-El 8
02-08-2006, 12:31 PM
THE "REAL" BATMAN
Author: Jett
Wednesday, February 1, 2006
Who is the “real” Batman?
Is he The Dark Knight? Or is he The Caped Crusader?
Is his suit a costume or battle gear? And is it gray and black, blue and gray, or all black? Does he wear tights or body armor? Is his bat symbol found within a yellow oval or spread wide across his chest?
Does the real Batman have long or short ears on his cowl? Are his eyes covered by lenses? Is the cape for theatricality, or does it have a specific function?
Does his utility belt have pouches like a policeman or a soldier, or does it have narrow cylinders?
Does he use a batarang and rope to get from building to building, or a grapling gun instead?
Is Bruce Wayne psychotic, crazy perhaps? Or is he just really dedicated to his “mission?”
Does his universe exist in a dark, macabre, fantastic netherworld? Or does he exist in a place almost as “real” as ours -- just with a few “odd” characters?
Is he The Bat-Man who doesn’t oppose carrying a lethal weapon and using it from time to time? Is he Batman whose adventures may take him into outer space or back in time? Is he Batman, honorary member of the Gotham City Police Force. Is he The Batman, Darknight Detective -- a vigilante solving crimes much like a freaky, badass Sherlock Holmes?
Does the real Batman only appear at night, or could we find him in the middle of the day at some public event?
Should the real Batman operate solo, or should he have allies such as Robin? Was Ace The Bat-hound, Bat-Woman, Bat-Girl, and Bat-Mite ever part of the real Batman’s world?
Was the 60s TV show with Adam West the real Batman?
On the big screen, was the real Batman realized in BATMAN? BATMAN RETURNS? BATMAN FOREVER? BATMAN AND ROBIN? Or perhaps BATMAN BEGINS?
Right now, think “Batman,” envision him with your mind's eye. There he is, see him?
The real Batman.
So the answer to all these questions is a collective “yes,” because the only “real” Batman is the one that exists in our heads.
And in the hearts of all Batman fans as well.
"Jett" is the editor-in-chief of BATMAN ON FILM and BATMAN IN COMICS.
I totally agree with you "Jett" :up: :up: 100 % .
ToddIsDead
02-08-2006, 12:54 PM
Thats was a very insightful article. Good Stuff!:up:
BatScot
02-08-2006, 01:23 PM
Universalist gobbledygook… there is an archetype and it can be defined, and there are more correct interpretations than others.
ChrisBaleBatman
02-12-2006, 01:12 PM
I dunno, Batman is in a class of his own. I mean, how many other heroes have had as diverse a set of interpretations as Batman and had as many be as successful?
None, Batman is the only one.
With every other hero, there are the EXACT ways to do things to get the character "right"......and if creators, or filmmakers, don't follow it......the movie will be a dud and EVERYONE will hate it.
Not with Batman. So, "correct" is a tough word when talking about Batman.
"Wrong", though......well.......Schumacher knows that one all too well.
batadz
03-06-2006, 01:12 PM
I think it is down to artistic licence but heres a couple of sugetions and facts
the yellow symbol was on the older costumes (see flashbck shot in hush chapter 11or12) but it started as what we see now
batz costume was originally black and grey with a big black bat but they changed the colour to blue and grey because some stooopid dc owner thought the black was'nt super heroy enough
the costume was then turned back to it's cooler black colour in the eighties
I think the symbol has changed back and forth over the years
the pouches in begins could be smaller because he has only just BEGUN his quest
The pouches change size depending on what batz has on him for the situation
I dont know what this quote is from or who said it (could be character or real life person) but:
"batman is the very epitome of preperation"
As far as Im aware the suit has only been all black in the films unless I'm wrong (which is rare when it comes to batz history) although aparently it is verydark grey on the body but i'm not convinced
batz does actually have more than one suit for different occasions like
his parachute suit
thermal suit
various underwater suits
bat armour
Mabee he has diferent cowls aswell
the eye section in b89 stoped mike from seeing vertually anything so they changed that
val kilmers had to be changed on forever to fit his face
the hole at the top of the silver suit was too pour water on his head to cool hoim down because it was completly air tight (smeg knows why)
the same goes to georg crappy clooney
I think his whole suit was different with shades of blue and silver making him look more like bloody robocop than batman
werent the ears in begins hollow in begins to fit the police scanner and parabolic ear?
and wernt they more like the comic counterparts?
the glider wings were actually used in batman89 & returns but never explained
they were used in forever but val was falling too fast and couln't span his arms out so the cape flapped which is was crappy o doniel poured sand in that oogit to save batz
they were never used in b&r which is daft because isnt that film just about jump after fall after jump after crap after crap?
right that's enough from me on this boards I'm off too anoy someone else and be a smartarse somwhere else
batadz
03-06-2006, 01:16 PM
but before I do a reply to crisbalebatman what about the xmen? they get changed every decade and there one of the most popular group/comics since they arrived in september of 63 and this decade alone have changed three times not including their off shoots like the extreame team xforce and xcorp
El Payaso
03-06-2006, 01:24 PM
werent the ears in begins hollow in begins to fit the police scanner and parabolic ear?
and wernt they more like the comic counterparts?
How so? They were shorter but the exact same shape as the previous movies (like a long pyramidal shape curved forwards).
batadz
03-06-2006, 02:01 PM
nah there is a flat serface at the front and there stubbyier and from the side there like cat ears the others were different trust me
ChrisBaleBatman
03-06-2006, 02:35 PM
I think it is down to artistic licence but heres a couple of sugetions and facts
the yellow symbol was on the older costumes (see flashbck shot in hush chapter 11or12) but it started as what we see now
batz costume was originally black and grey with a big black bat but they changed the colour to blue and grey because some stooopid dc owner thought the black was'nt super heroy enough
the costume was then turned back to it's cooler black colour in the eighties
I think the symbol has changed back and forth over the years
I think your right on the money with these.
the pouches in begins could be smaller because he has only just BEGUN his quest
The pouches change size depending on what batz has on him for the situation
I don't think so. The Utility Belt was about the right size in the movie.....maybe could have been a little bigger. But, I've read that the stuff actually did fit into the belt..........whereas in the other films, they just "stuffed" stuff into there.
As for them being bigger depending on the situation.......I dunno, I haven't noticed that.
I dont know what this quote is from or who said it (could be character or real life person) but:
"batman is the very epitome of preperation"
Yeah, Batman is a really prep- freak. It allows him to be ready for anything......but, I think it's been a little overdone in the comics......we get renditions like the Bat-God, which I actually love, but it does get criticized.
but before I do a reply to crisbalebatman what about the xmen? they get changed every decade and there one of the most popular group/comics since they arrived in september of 63 and this decade alone have changed three times not including their off shoots like the extreame team xforce and xcorp
Yeah.......but do they get spoofed by themselves? Do they get accused of being a "child molesters wet dream"? Batman is a character that's been through a hell of alot........more than any other. Plus, the films count big time.......people assume that's the way it is.
How so? They were shorter but the exact same shape as the previous movies (like a long pyramidal shape curved forwards).
I dunno.....the cowl's ears looked about the right size to me. Not too long, and not too short. The ears did curve foward from the back of the top head......not really like the comics I think.
nah there is a flat serface at the front and there stubbyier and from the side there like cat ears the others were different trust me
O ok.
batadz
03-06-2006, 05:18 PM
there on the side on the older ones the new ones come out from the back
ithinki preferethe orinalsthough with the bigger face over the eyes
Ocelot
03-13-2006, 04:41 AM
Wow. Aboslutely, postively right on the nail. That IS The REAL Batman. The one each of us see in our minds and hearts, and honestly.....no a single person can tell any of us differently, wheter you see the real Batman as Keaton, or as Kilmer or as Bale........not a single person can convince any of us as to which is the REAL one because honestly, they all are to different people.
Yet nearly half a year prior to this I came up with the exact same concept,but all I got was, , "UR JUST FIGHTING IN EVERYONES CORNER." "YOUR MAKING A TYPICAL FANBOY MISTAKE" You yourself ChrisBaleBatman are in that same topic, disregarding what I said!! I find it hilarious that here you are now, of course said by a "all knowing true Batman fan" he can't be wrong you agree full heartedly. I just find it so fricking funny how even though no one wants to admit it, these message boards all have little cliques and whatnot. I said I wasn't a hardcore Batman fan so there was no way i was right at all. But when Jett says it. Hehe, see what I'm getting at. Funny stuff.
Heres the link http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197306
Read it and weep, its only a page long. Met with sarcasm of course, and jackasses named Odin's Lapdog. Don't discount the casual fan's view on things all the time, thats why big fans of anything not just Batman, like Star Wars or whatever, are looked as being stuck up or on a high horse when it comes to whatever they are fans of. Theres a lesson to be learned here boys and......girl.
El Payaso
03-13-2006, 10:05 AM
The article doesn't get any better in time. A bunch of questions and the most obvious answer.
I'm sorry Ocelot that you need to be called Jett and have a website to be taken seriously.
Kevin Roegele
03-19-2006, 07:37 PM
Shumacher is fan of 60s TV Batman show, I doubt he ever read a single Batman comic.
He's proberbaly seen more of them than you have - he's clearly read the 1940s and 1950s Batman comics, which some posters on these boards are completely unaware of .
I have always liked the dark bat in the shadows but i hate the blue detective with the bright yellow symbol,in my mind he has always had that sort of curse from that bat and it wont leave him alone, basicaly bruce is lost, there is only batman,forever. I think they explained that well in begins and i think frank miller shows he knows him verywell if you have read the dark knight returns!!!
BatScot
03-29-2006, 04:31 PM
you need to be called Jett and have a website to be taken seriously.Actually... No, you dont.
El Payaso
03-29-2006, 04:45 PM
I don't. Ocelot says he does.
batadz
03-30-2006, 11:26 AM
isnt ocelot and jett the same guy?
batadz
03-30-2006, 11:26 AM
or have i misread summut sumwhere?
El Payaso
03-30-2006, 11:48 PM
isnt ocelot and jett the same guy?
Yeah and both are me.
ChrisBaleBatman
04-01-2006, 08:13 PM
Yet nearly half a year prior to this I came up with the exact same concept,but all I got was, , "UR JUST FIGHTING IN EVERYONES CORNER." "YOUR MAKING A TYPICAL FANBOY MISTAKE" You yourself ChrisBaleBatman are in that same topic, disregarding what I said!! I find it hilarious that here you are now, of course said by a "all knowing true Batman fan" he can't be wrong you agree full heartedly. I just find it so fricking funny how even though no one wants to admit it, these message boards all have little cliques and whatnot. I said I wasn't a hardcore Batman fan so there was no way i was right at all. But when Jett says it. Hehe, see what I'm getting at. Funny stuff.
Half a Year ago......??
Dude......that's like, a million years ago.........it's hard to even remember what happened last week.
Plus, Batman Begins hadn't been released......we were all in our corners, and peace was not an option.
This is what I had posted in that relic thread (btw.....you might want to keep your relic collection of threads that have wronged you more under wraps......people might start to wonder if your....well, crazy...er...not that you are....err....).
Not so bad a thing to say, I think.
Faitfulness.....keeping to the core material is key. That's it. It's true.
Faithful-ness does count for something.
The biggest mistake that people make is thinking it has to be EXACTLY like the comics......that's not true.
Things like characteristics and major points of the characters are what really matters.....and Batman Begins got it right. BATMAN just didn't do enough of that for me......it was a good movie......but Batman Begins does too many things right in my mind.
DocLathropBrown
11-05-2006, 05:14 PM
As much as I don't like Jett, he's right. Although it's an awfully PC ideal.
My ideal Batman is Michael Keaton/Tim Burton's portrayal, with Conroy's from TAS a very, very close second.
Fenrir
11-05-2006, 06:22 PM
My ideal Batman is Michael Keaton/Tim Burton's portrayal, with Conroy's from TAS a very, very close second.
Keaton better than Conroy?! All right, WTF are you smoking? :dry:
Buttman
11-05-2006, 07:00 PM
batadz, would that be Stockport, Manchester England?
If so.. OoOoooo.
Kevin Conroy is the Batman for me.
DocLathropBrown
11-05-2006, 09:37 PM
Keaton better than Conroy?! All right, WTF are you smoking? :dry: That's just my preference. Conroy is just a voice, whereas Keaton is a voice and a physical manifestation of the Batman.
Fenrir
11-06-2006, 06:29 AM
That's just my preference. Conroy is just a voice, whereas Keaton is a voice and a physical manifestation of the Batman.
Keaton? A "physical manifestation of Batman"?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D
Hades
11-06-2006, 06:42 AM
That's what I love about Batman. He has so many interpretations.
Cryogenic
11-06-2006, 04:02 PM
Keaton? A "physical manifestation of Batman"?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D
It's good to see you've mastered the art of respecting opinions. :cwink:
Naw, I get what you mean. Bale definitely looked right, body-wise. But Keaton still fit. He had a certain litheness. And those eyes! You could always sense there was something detached about him as Wayne, yet you could also never have suspected he was Batman. Bruce's greatest disguise, as both Bruce and Batman, and as played by Keaton, was his subtle nature. He was calm, collected and quiet, but when needed, he could suddenly lash out, and then fade away again, without a trace. A *true* Batman.
Fenrir
11-06-2006, 05:19 PM
It's good to see you've mastered the art of respecting opinions. :cwink:
Yes, and from that it must be easy for you to tell that I only respect opinions that deserve respect, not some senseless fanboy rambling. Saying that Keaton was a great Batman in terms of physicality is like saying Batman Begins was the greatest film of all time. And I know how intorelably despicable that very notion is to Burtonites. ;)
Naw, I get what you mean. Bale definitely looked right, body-wise.
He definitely was the only one who had come closest to the comic book interpretation as "a physical manifestation of the character".
But Keaton still fit. He had a certain litheness. And those eyes! You could always sense there was something detached about him as Wayne, yet you could also never have suspected he was Batman. Bruce's greatest disguise, as both Bruce and Batman, and as played by Keaton, was his subtle nature. He was calm, collected and quiet, but when needed, he could suddenly lash out, and then fade away again, without a trace. A *true* Batman.
No, Keaton didn't fit. If it weren't for his amazing performance, Keaton would probably have been the worst Batman ever, even worse than Clooney. Fortunately, he gave a pretty solid portrayal of the character, but even then it's not hard to notice that he was quite lacking in many aspects. First off all, Bruce Wayne is not some slim and short guy who looks like he's sufferring from hair-loss. Rather he is someone who has spent years training perfecting his mind and body to be able to undertake and withstand his never-ending war on crime and Keaton looked nothing like that, especially when you consider that Batman is a master of a wide variety of martial arts, weaponry and athletics. Yes, Bruce is in fact a brooding, obsessive figure but at the same time, he's also a dashing playboy socialite who always stands out even in the most elitest of circles.
But Keaton's Bruce Wayne was never the dominant, charming playboy Bruce is in the comics. Instead, his take was playing Bruce more as an everyman with slightly goofball tendencies who can easily disappear into a crowd and no one would ever notice. Heck, Burton himself admitted that one of the reasons for his choice of Keaton was that he wanted someone who could bring some of the average Joe qualities to the character. What he didn't realize that the Bruce Wayne is the farthest thing from your regular everyman as humanly possible. As a sole heir to one of the wealthiest, most influential families in all of Gotham, trying to instill such mundane qualities in Bruce Wayne is sheer stupidity because it completely messes up the identity of *who* the character really is. If you want an average Joe, then Peter Parker is what you want, not Bruce Wayne.
And that is why Keaton will never be the definitive Batman to anyone who wants a Batman/Bruce Wayne that is closer to the comics instead of some offshoot personal interpretation of a director. Sure, despite his inadequacies, I still hold Keaton's Batman performance as the one that set the standard, but his overall portrayal of the character will always be incomplete no thanks to a lacking Bruce Wayne. A *true* Batman Keaton may be, but let's not forget that Batman is only one of the three faces of the character.
Cryogenic
11-06-2006, 05:38 PM
Yes, and from that it must be easy for you to tell that I only respect opinions that deserve respect, not some senseless fanboy rambling. Saying that Keaton was a great Batman in terms of physicality is like saying Batman Begins was the greatest film of all time. And I know how intorelably despicable that very notion is to Burtonites. ;)
I am sure that that notion is equally "intolerably despicable" to anyone that knows anything about the rich and varied history of filmmaking. :cwink:
Heck, Burton himself admitted that one of the reasons for his choice of Keaton was that he wanted someone who could bring some of the average Joe qualities to the character. What he didn't realize that the Bruce Wayne is the farthest thing from your regular everyman as humanly possible. As a sole heir to one of the wealthiest, most influential families in all of Gotham, trying to instill such mundane qualities in Bruce Wayne is sheer stupidity because it completely messes up the identity of *who* the character really is. If you want an average Joe, then Peter Parker is what you want, not Bruce Wayne.
Actually, I think Keaton was cast for being an incredible actor, and because he had a strong flair for comedy, thus making his presence something of a commentary by Burton on the absurdity of Batman. But you're right that he also had some "average Joe" qualities. These are the qualities that Burton fed into the fabric of his Batman films and built a dichotomy out of: i.e. Keaton's Bruce may look average and unassuming, but he's anything but.
Fenrir
11-06-2006, 06:09 PM
I am sure that that notion is equally "intolerably despicable" to anyone that knows anything about the rich and varied history of filmmaking. :cwink:
You might be patting yourself on the back for conjuring up yet another witty response, yet you probably haven't realized that you just agreed with my assertion about Keaton being a great Batman in terms of physicality very much ridiculous. Semantics...gotta love' em. :up:
Actually, I think Keaton was cast for being an incredible actor, and because he had a strong flair for comedy, thus making his presence something of a commentary by Burton on the absurdity of Batman.
What you think about Keaton being cast is both irrelevant and inconsequential when compared to what Burton himself said regarding his decision to cast him.
But you're right that he also had some "average Joe" qualities. These are the qualities that Burton fed into the fabric of his Batman films and built a dichotomy out of: i.e. Keaton's Bruce may look average and unassuming, but he's anything but.
But that's what is wrong with Keaton's Bruce. Bruce Wayne is not average or unassuming nor does he look like it. Period. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea about who or what Bruce Wayne is.
Cobblepot
11-07-2006, 07:22 AM
Sigh... I'm surprised not one of you guys figured this out yet.
There is no definitive Batman, there is no definitive contuinity, there is no definitive costume or cowl.
It's your imagination that makes "The Batman" who he is.
You make up your own definitive Batman by the stories you have seen, read and heard. You make up your own continuity no matter how DC want's to form it. It's comics it's fantasy there's no making sense of it, except for the story you make of it.
Kevin Roegele
11-07-2006, 03:51 PM
THE "REAL" BATMAN
Author: Jett
Wednesday, February 1, 2006
Who is the “real” Batman?
Is he The Dark Knight? Or is he The Caped Crusader?
Is his suit a costume or battle gear? And is it gray and black, blue and gray, or all black? Does he wear tights or body armor? Is his bat symbol found within a yellow oval or spread wide across his chest?
Does the real Batman have long or short ears on his cowl? Are his eyes covered by lenses? Is the cape for theatricality, or does it have a specific function?
Does his utility belt have pouches like a policeman or a soldier, or does it have narrow cylinders?
Does he use a batarang and rope to get from building to building, or a grapling gun instead?
Is Bruce Wayne psychotic, crazy perhaps? Or is he just really dedicated to his “mission?”
Does his universe exist in a dark, macabre, fantastic netherworld? Or does he exist in a place almost as “real” as ours -- just with a few “odd” characters?
Is he The Bat-Man who doesn’t oppose carrying a lethal weapon and using it from time to time? Is he Batman whose adventures may take him into outer space or back in time? Is he Batman, honorary member of the Gotham City Police Force. Is he The Batman, Darknight Detective -- a vigilante solving crimes much like a freaky, badass Sherlock Holmes?
Does the real Batman only appear at night, or could we find him in the middle of the day at some public event?
Should the real Batman operate solo, or should he have allies such as Robin? Was Ace The Bat-hound, Bat-Woman, Bat-Girl, and Bat-Mite ever part of the real Batman’s world?
Was the 60s TV show with Adam West the real Batman?
On the big screen, was the real Batman realized in BATMAN? BATMAN RETURNS? BATMAN FOREVER? BATMAN AND ROBIN? Or perhaps BATMAN BEGINS?
Right now, think “Batman,” envision him with your mind's eye. There he is, see him?
The real Batman.
So the answer to all these questions is a collective “yes,” because the only “real” Batman is the one that exists in our heads.
And in the hearts of all Batman fans as well.
"Jett" is the editor-in-chief of BATMAN ON FILM and BATMAN IN COMICS.
Pretentiously stating the obvious, that's Batman-on-film.
Nepenthes
11-09-2006, 09:05 AM
DKR is the tha REAL *****. Tha REAL BATMAN and that is final. If you can't realise such an obvious thing then you are clearly a fanboy moron with no understanding of what tha bat is all about.
The Kid
11-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Clooney is the real batman.
Batty for Bats!
11-21-2006, 04:23 PM
Upps double post
Batty for Bats!
11-21-2006, 04:23 PM
I really like Joel Schumacher's interpretation of Batman. He could be alittle bit more gayer IMO tho.
El Payaso
11-21-2006, 04:40 PM
DKR is the tha REAL *****. Tha REAL BATMAN and that is final. If you can't realise such an obvious thing then you are clearly a fanboy moron with no understanding of what tha bat is all about.
:confused:
I'll take the metaphoric angle of it, 'the real Batman is always in a movie that hasn't been done yet.' lol
dude love
11-21-2006, 11:33 PM
I really like Joel Schumacher's interpretation of Batman. He could be alittle bit more gayer IMO tho.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Can't breathe! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Damiean Dark
12-14-2006, 02:53 PM
My Batman will always be the as crazy as the criminals Batman that micheal keaton portrayed to perfection in the suit you can sometimes just see the guy is crazy especially in Batman Returns.
Anjow1060
12-14-2006, 03:01 PM
oh Lord Damiean are you here to stink up these boards too?
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