The Future of Ultimate Marvel

[Artistsean]

Here are just some ideas for the Ultimate Marvel comics, story ideas and things that could be addressed or mentioned. Some of these ideas can go together, and some might contradict another.

>Ultimate Spider-Man, Peter Parker, becomes an agent of SHEILD. Maybe Peter becomes a SHEILD agent, and Spider-Man is gone.
>The Super Soldier Bill goes into effect, and requires all men and woman serving our country be injected with the Super Soldier serum.
>Nick Fury is fired from SHEILD.
>The Ultimates are no longer needed, they are fired or dissband.
>Using Peter Parker's DNA, the Fantastic Four's DNA, and various super humans, experiments are under way to recreate their powers in American Soldiers. Namor is being studied to create undersea super soldiers. SHEILD scientists are studying DNA andf tissue samples from the Hulk in hopes to harness his regeneration powers.
>Using bits of alien technology they have recovered, and along with Hank Pym and maybe Stark Enterprises, the first artificial intellegence is created. The results of the project codenamed Ultron are kept secret.
>combining Old Sentinel technology and new Stark technology, the Sentinels are now used regularly, and are more advanced.
>Weapon X is reinstated as a devision of SHEILD, using mutants as agents and using mutant volenteers in experiments.
>Mutants now make up half of the population.
>Because of the amount of mutants and super humans in the population a special prison to hold them is created on Genosha Island.
>In small insegnificant ways, minor Stark inventions are being slowly introduced into the culture.
>Stark Enterprises or Osbourne Inc tries to hostally take over the other.
>Mutants must register their powers.
>mutations in humans are becoming more aggressive in nature, while a handful of plants and animals are showing minor mutations.
>it is revealed or discovered that the super humans are aging differently than average humans. Captain America and Spider-Man age much slower than a regular man, while the Fantastic Four dont seem to age a day. They will not age at all in 50 years.
>Wolverine is discovering more and more of his past.
>Because of the race between each nation to create its own super soldier, there are several created. Now some of them are advancing to high ranking offices in Government. T'Challa, Africa's super soldier called the Black Panther, is elected President.
>Mutants are being less feared in different parts of the world.
>The Legacy Virus, a virus meant to infect and only be harmful to mutants, is being designed in SHEILD labs by their scientists in absolute top secret. It is meant as a procotion to be used only in the most extreme situations, like if there is a mass mutant revolt.
>There are Punisher copycats, or organized groups across America.
>Laws and accomidations are under way for superhumans and mutants ins sports.
>The first superhuman or mutant is put to death, maybe Norman Osborne or Magneto.
>Xavier and his X-Men take a stand against the Government and are labeled as trators, maybe because Xavier doesnt want magneto executed.
>Efforts are underway to explore fully the Negative Zone for its resources like extra space for housing or a place to keep prisoners.

And to keep it believable and Ultimate, the public is unaware of most of this.
These are just some ideas for story lines or things Id like to see addressed in the Ultimate Marvel Comics

What ideas or or stories would you like to see or get addressed in the Ultimate Marvel comics?

[Brodie The Wise]

more boobies:up:

[The Question]

Well, there are three aspects of that I wasn't too big with. One was the super soldier thing. The super soldier formula would probably be quite expensive to manufacture. So, I would think that only a few select soldiers would get it.


The second, for the mutant thing, I kind of like what the Ultimates have shown, with only some mutants having powers and the rest just being weird looking or have an extra rib or something.

And the third is the superhumans aging slower. Why would the all age slower? I mean, the Fantastic Four don't really have powers that would make you think they'd age slower.

[Brodie The Wise]

The slow aging is probably jsut a way to justify keping them 20 forever.

[Sabretooth]

At some point,I'd like to see Daredevil be a type of teacher to Spider-Man. maybe then Peter's mask wouldn't come off so damn much.:o

[The Question]

It would be cool if Daredevil became Spider-Man's mentor, and was a total hard ass about it, thus creating some good conflict.

[Zoken]

Ultimate Warriors: a SHEILD program for its meta-human "Draftees". the star of the program is Spider-Man, but you also have a guy named Speedball, Shang Chi (that no one will believe has no meta-human powers), and a young woman known only as X-23. and a man called Nova.

[Artistsean]

I was going to say that all SHEILD agents were injected and bhecame super soldiers, but thats already happened. Plus the Super Soldier serum and project was created to turn America's soldiers into super humans. So if they can mass produce the formula why not make all soldiers super?

I also like the idea that not all mutants have powers like the X-Men, some have minor mutataions. What I was suggesting was that a few mutants here and there have powers that ere more aggressive than mutants in the past. But not all mutants. Most of the mutant population, which has grown considerably, would have very minor mutations or just look different.

The aging thing was sort of just to have an excuse why they can stay in their 20s. But It came from the idea that the Fantastic Four dont age at all. Reed and Sue discover that Reed doesnt need to eat and that his organs have sort of changed. In fact they said that Reed doesnt breath, instead he is like a plant sort of thing in how he breaths. and Ben doesnt eat or poop either. So I thought since their bodies have changed so much, almost to the point where they arent human anymore, maybe they dont age either. Maybe 30 years from now their bodies are in exactly the same condition they are in now as far as deterioration.
Then I was thinking maybe Captain America ages, but not as fast as the average human because of the super soldier serum. Maybe he ages a year for every 5 or 10 years. And because Spider-Man was created as an accident from Osborune Inc trying to recreate the super soldier serum, maybe he ages slower too. But probably a little faster than Captain America.

A Daredevil/Spider-Man Techer/Student thing would be cool. Daredevil hates Spider-Man so he would probably do it to stop him from being so reckless and getting on DD's nerves. But then he would be forced to be around Spider-Man all the time. Plus then they could both go after Kingpin and DD's connection to Kingpin can be revealed and made stronger in the Ultimate universe.
Ultimate Warriors would be interesting, it could be Spider-Man's first days or missions with SHEILD.

Another thing Id like to see, which they do more in the Ultimates, is to make the Superhuman world less common place and less known to the public. I read that thats what they wanted it to be like, but they didnt think they really did that. They added things like saying that the public believed that the alein invasion the Ultimates faced was a hoax, or people in New York thinking Spider-Man was a publicity stunt for wrestling.
maybe they could do stuff like that, I dont know.

The idea is that the ideas I stated earlier would happen slowly, not all at once.

But they are just my ideas.

[deemar325]

Here are just some ideas for the Ultimate Marvel comics, story ideas and things that could be addressed or mentioned. Some of these ideas can go together, and some might contradict another.

>Ultimate Spider-Man, Peter Parker, becomes an agent of SHEILD. Maybe Peter becomes a SHEILD agent, and Spider-Man is gone.
Bad idea, why effectively wipe out your marquee hero.
>The Super Soldier Bill goes into effect, and requires all men and woman serving our country be injected with the Super Soldier serum.
Could be interesting.
>Nick Fury is fired from SHEILD.
^Ditto.
>The Ultimates are no longer needed, they are fired or dissband.
It may happen anyways.
>Using Peter Parker's DNA, the Fantastic Four's DNA, and various super humans, experiments are under way to recreate their powers in American Soldiers. Namor is being studied to create undersea super soldiers. SHEILD scientists are studying DNA andf tissue samples from the Hulk in hopes to harness his regeneration powers.
If it would create a new villian it could work.
>Using bits of alien technology they have recovered, and along with Hank Pym and maybe Stark Enterprises, the first artificial intellegence is created. The results of the project codenamed Ultron are kept secret.
Do you read these books? Ultron already appeared sorta'
>combining Old Sentinel technology and new Stark technology, the Sentinels are now used regularly, and are more advanced.
Blah.
>Weapon X is reinstated as a devision of SHEILD, using mutants as agents and using mutant volenteers in experiments.
Been done no need to rehash.
>Mutants now make up half of the population.
Then whats the point of the X-men?
>Because of the amount of mutants and super humans in the population a special prison to hold them is created on Genosha Island.
Dude that could work.
>In small insegnificant ways, minor Stark inventions are being slowly introduced into the culture.
Hmm..
>Stark Enterprises or Osbourne Inc tries to hostally take over the other.
Cool idea, but Norman Osborn is a known villian to SHIELD, he'd never run a business again.
>Mutants must register their powers.
Redundant, yet again do you read these books?
>mutations in humans are becoming more aggressive in nature, while a handful of plants and animals are showing minor mutations.
This I like alot!
>it is revealed or discovered that the super humans are aging differently than average humans. Captain America and Spider-Man age much slower than a regular man, while the Fantastic Four dont seem to age a day. They will not age at all in 50 years.
Interesting I like.
>Wolverine is discovering more and more of his past.
Gonna happen anyways, you are severly redundant.
>Because of the race between each nation to create its own super soldier, there are several created. Now some of them are advancing to high ranking offices in Government. T'Challa, Africa's super soldier called the Black Panther, is elected President.
You are redundant as sh-t!
>Mutants are being less feared in different parts of the world.
>The Legacy Virus, a virus meant to infect and only be harmful to mutants, is being designed in SHEILD labs by their scientists in absolute top secret. It is meant as a procotion to be used only in the most extreme situations, like if there is a mass mutant revolt.
I like.
>There are Punisher copycats, or organized groups across America.
I like.
>Laws and accomidations are under way for superhumans and mutants ins sports.
Redundant, but I like.
>The first superhuman or mutant is put to death, maybe Norman Osborne or Magneto.
It'll show that the Ultimate U. ain't playing around.
>Xavier and his X-Men take a stand against the Government and are labeled as trators, maybe because Xavier doesnt want magneto executed.
Read the books!
>Efforts are underway to explore fully the Negative Zone for its resources like extra space for housing or a place to keep prisoners.

And to keep it believable and Ultimate, the public is unaware of most of this.
These are just some ideas for story lines or things Id like to see addressed in the Ultimate Marvel Comics

What ideas or or stories would you like to see or get addressed in the Ultimate Marvel comics?

Son read the books, half the stuff your thinking is already in effect or pointless.

[Artistsean]

All these ideas are just me shooting out every idea I can, good ideas, bad ideas, big ideas and small ideas. They include big story ideas, with arcs and such, and they include small burbs Id like to see mentioned here and there but not focused on.

Peter becoming a SHEILD agent, leaving Spider-Man in the past, could be just a plot idea. not perminant.

The Ultron idea i must have missed in the comics, Id like to see more of it though if it did. What happened in it anyway, maybe I just forgot it.

Sentinel idea, just sort of spit balling ideas. Throwing alot out there, some good some bad. Seeing what people think.

The Weapon X being reinstated would be different, it would be just another branch of SHEILD but for mutant agents. They would be treated better. It coud just be mentioned, like some of the other ideas, and not focused on.

Id like to see Wolverine find out more about his past than the regular universes Wolverine.

the half of the population is sort of bad, but this would probably be way in the future. I was just thinking that the evolution of people wouldnt just stop with a few. It would sort of continue, maybe not to the point where half of the world is mutant in the next 20 years though.

mutants registering powers, again it could just be mentioned. Sort of hinting at a Days of Futures Past possible future. Maybe mutants could protest, but it isnt focused on a great deal. It would just be like listing who is a mutant and what power they have on their drivers liscence, and then filed in their legal records. Their name would be in a data base of known mutants and their powers.

Someone is running Osborne Inc, Harry sort of was when his father left. Then he turned into a Goblin, maybe someone else took over and is trying to turn the company around.

It would be realistic to have some former super humans try for government offices, much like Celebraties becoming Senators and Goveners, and Presidents. Plus this could introduce Black Panther without making him just another super hero, he could rarely be in costume if ever. So who is in government office with super powers, I guess it was something I missed?

I would like to see, if maybe for a little while or a short story, Xavier take a stand against the Government in the isue of Executing Magneto, or registering mutant powers, and then be considered public enemy number one.

But again, just telling all the ideas I have whether they are good or not. Seeing which ones people like and which ones they dont. I like them, or some of them anyway, but you dont have to. I do read alot of them, but not every single one. I dont have that much money, or time. So Im sure Ive missed some stuff. I have actually missed some recent, Im waiting till the graphic novals come out.

[hippie_hunter]

Spider-Man will be forced to join the Ultimates

Ultimate Northstar is 100% straight. He's a manly man and bangs about an average of 8 women daily

[The Question]

Ultimate Northstar's already apeared. He's dating Colosus.

[Artistsean]

Ultimate Northstar's already apeared. He's dating Colosus.

When did they say Colossus was gay? I remember reading it in Wizard around issue 8 or 10, and I dont think it was even mentioned in the comics at that time.

By the way, heres my idea for Ultimate Northstar and his twin sister Aurora
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/seannneedham/ultimatenorthstar.jpg
He is still gay in my version.

[supermarvelman]

The one i like the most, but i would tweak it, cause ive been thinking the same thing.
Spider-Man becoming an official agent of shield, but stays as Spider-man, and does the shield thing on a must need basis.

[Zoken]

I think it would be interesting to see Ultimate Spider-Man put on the Ultimates squad at 18, have everyone treat him like a newbie, like some wet behind the ears kid, and then have him tell them that they are doing everything bass ackwards. pointing out ways they could have handled problems better. show that since he's been doing this since before they were a team, he's the real old hand, and their the wannabes.

[supermarvelman]

Id like that Zoken
I like the Punisher copycats
Government killing a supervillian good idea, they dont need to bring the character back but its comics they always could be brought back somehow
Legacy Virus good
Mutant population higher, I dont like, they couldve just left the 616 universe the way it was.
Am i a mutant i have an extra set of ribs?

[Brodie The Wise]

I think it would be interesting to see Ultimate Spider-Man put on the Ultimates squad at 18, have everyone treat him like a newbie, like some wet behind the ears kid, and then have him tell them that they are doing everything bass ackwards. pointing out ways they could have handled problems better. show that since he's been doing this since before they were a team, he's the real old hand, and their the wannabes.

So, you'd be killing Captain America too:eek:

[Zoken]

nah, I guess Cap would the exception to the "Put them in their place" thing. Cap would of course still have more experience, but I'd still like them to take notice that they have pointed out that Peter is stronger and faster than cap. almost as smart as any of their geneiuses. all he has to do is get over the "hero-factor" and he could take them all on.

[The Question]

Am i a mutant i have an extra set of ribs?


Technically? Yes. You have a genetic mutation.

[Artistsean]

My idea for the mutants was only that the mutations would just halt. organisms would keeps evolving at the same rate. Some plants and some animals would show little mutations, and a few more people would too, and maybe the ones that are showing bigger ones have more aggressive mutations, sort of like defense mechanisms.

Aother Idea
Ultimate Mimic.
He is a young teenager who is sort of a mutant. He only has powers when he is around other mutants, he can Mimic up to five different powers at once. once he has mimiced their powers, sort of by copying their DNA strand that is mutated, he can keep it. But to be able to mimic it he has to be close to the mutant he is mimicing. But without mutants he is normal, sort of.
He isnt human, but he isnt a mutant.

Mimic is just one of several people caught in between, they dont feel like they belong with either the humans or mutants. Another man stuck in the middle is Black Tom Cassidy.
Tom is able to blast energy from his body but he can only do this through wood. The wood is a conductor, the energy flows from his body, through the wood, and out the wood at his target.
Similar to Mimic, without the wood Tom Cassidy would be sort of normal.

They arent accepted most of the time by either side. Humans see them as mutants, and while Xavier and his X-Men and many mutants are accepting of them, some arent. those mutants have dubbed them the Half-Mutants.
Xavier has noted that there are levels or mutations, these humans are in the middle, stuck between average humans and full mutants.

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

i would like to see a story where mutents and superhumans are put into cage maches (ie fights to the death) and the Ults. and X-men investage it only to end up haveing Cap and Wolverine end up fighting each other. i could see Wolverine wanting a pice of cap after he owned him in Ult. War.

Wloverine: Where are your weapons now?

Cap: Right here.
(kicks Wolverine in the nuts.)

[Unleashed]

once he has mimiced their powers, sort of by copying their DNA strand that is mutated, he can keep it. But to be able to mimic it he has to be close to the mutant he is mimicing.
:confused: He can keep the mutation but can only use it when the mutant is near?

[Unleashed]

once he has mimiced their powers, sort of by copying their DNA strand that is mutated, he can keep it. But to be able to mimic it he has to be close to the mutant he is mimicing.
:confused: He can keep the mutation but can only use it when the mutant is near?

[supermarvelman]

Technically? Yes. You have a genetic mutation.


Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Artistsean]

What I was meaning was he can only use his mutant power to copy someone elses power when they are there, but once he has it it doesnt go away.
But now that I think about it, he should probably only have that power while that mutant is in the room.
so if he is fighting Kitty Pride, Cyclops, Logan, Colossus, and Storm, he can mimic all their powers. But once one of them leaves the radius of his mimicry he looses that power. Or say he is fighting one person like the Blob, he can only mimic that power.
Yeagh, that works alot better.

So thats my Ultimate Mimic, can mimic up to five mutants at once as long as they are in a certain proximirty to him. If he isnt around mutants at all he cannot have any powers.
and if he is around forty then its his choice.
At first he probably couldnt control who he mimiced, when he was around so many, but with help he probably learned how to choose.

[Manic]

>Because of the amount of mutants and super humans in the population a special prison to hold them is created on Genosha Island.
Didn't they already do that? I'm almost positive they mentioned an X-Factor Prison in the Ultimate War miniseries.

[Unleashed]

What I was meaning was he can only use his mutant power to copy someone elses power when they are there, but once he has it it doesnt go away.
But now that I think about it, he should probably only have that power while that mutant is in the room.
so if he is fighting Kitty Pride, Cyclops, Logan, Colossus, and Storm, he can mimic all their powers. But once one of them leaves the radius of his mimicry he looses that power. Or say he is fighting one person like the Blob, he can only mimic that power.
Yeagh, that works alot better.

So thats my Ultimate Mimic, can mimic up to five mutants at once as long as they are in a certain proximirty to him. If he isnt around mutants at all he cannot have any powers.
and if he is around forty then its his choice.
At first he probably couldnt control who he mimiced, when he was around so many, but with help he probably learned how to choose.
That would be awesome, the X-Men are in the city just hanging out when all of a sudden a bus is hit by an optic blast. They turn to see a kid with the same powers as Cyclops but he cant control them. Colossus tries to stop him but the kid armors up.

[Artistsean]

I think Bishop would be another one of the sort of mutants. He can blast forces of energy out of his body, but only after he absorbes the blast of another mutant's energy. Without absorbing another mutants energy he is sort of normal. he can be around several mutants, even Cyslops and havok, unless he has been hit directly or was able to absorb enough energy in the air, he can not blast energy back. Bishop isnt harmless when he has no energy to absorbe and blast back, he is highly trained in fighting in hand to hand combat.

(In my head, Bishop is a mutant who winds up on the X-Men's door step. He claims to be from a horrific future, but they can not prove he is telling the truth or not. Sort of like Thor, no one can tell. Not even Xavier because his mind is so warped, from what he says was the jump back in time. He has a M tatoo on his forhead, and a barcode on his forarm. No future weapons because they cannot travel, so he can't use that to prove he is from the future.)

But anyway, he is one of the mutants who arent exactly a mutant and arent exaclty human.

[Artistsean]

What if sometime in the future of the Ultimate universe, after the Ultimates have ended, Captain America runs for and ends up becoming the President of the United States.

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

What if sometime in the future of the Ultimate universe, after the Ultimates have ended, Captain America runs for and ends up becoming the President of the United States.
he wouldn't win he dodged the draft, i mean block of ice or not he should have been there.

[Artistsean]

I was going to suggest a while ago that Dr. Doom's powers keep mutating giving him human legs, and that he becomes the official ruler of latvia.
but it looks like they might do it anyway.

[Grim Goblin]

I was going to suggest a while ago that Dr. Doom's powers keep mutating giving him human legs, and that he becomes the official ruler of latvia.
but it looks like they might do it anyway.
Yep. They are.
http://usera.imagecave.com/Grim-Goblin/comics/ULTDoom.jpg

[ang_hulk]

ben poops "its not pretty"

[Artistsean]

the man who calls himself Apocalypse awakes from his self induced hibernation.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/apocalypse.jpg
His body is covered in old Egyptian writing or cuniform, or maybe his own form of writing. The tatoos make up the designs on his body. The sum of all the writing on his body tells the story of the unstoppable Apocalypse. He is about 7 or 8 feet tall, and very bulky.
He wears clothes, not alien armor.
His real name is Abin Sur, he is one of the first known mutants in existance. He was born in Egypt centuries ago. Over the many years his powers grew, and then he began to force them to grow. His mental powers rival Xaveir's, he can read minds, control others (with some limilations), and move objects and people with his mind. He can also control his own molecules with his mind.

He is more human than the other Apocalypse, but he still seems unstoppable.

[GNR]

Ultimate X-Men lost me after BKV left.I'm more interested in what Millar has in store for the FF.

[fifthfiend]

Ultimate X-Men lost me after BKV left.I'm more interested in what Millar has in store for the FF.

Is it just me or is Ultimate FF stupidly awesome right now?

[GNR]

Is it just me or is Ultimate FF stupidly awesome right now?

superfunkadeliciously awesome.

[Artistsean]

Not necissarily something that would frther the Ultimate universe, just the introduction of one character. It might further the development of Charles Xavier, show what kind of person he is.

Ultimate Shadow King
One day, while everything was going perfectly well at the X-Mansion, Xavier is attacked by another psychic entity. It is as strong, or stronger than he is. He falls forward, and then snapps back hitting the ground almost as if he was hit by something. His students gather around him asking if he is OK. He knows that whatever attacked him is gone now. Later that night, after Jean checks on him, he gets a telepathic message. It tells him that it is the Shadow King, the most powerful mutant mind in the universe and he wants to pit his skills against Charles. it Challenges Charles to a battle of the minds, Charles at first refuses. But the Shadow King warns him that he will destroy the mind of each and every member of the X-Men starting with Jean Grey. Xavier knows this mutant's power is strong enough that he can do that. But to drive the point home he attacks each of them. Xavier can hear everyone from Jean to Wovlerine, from Cyclops to Colossus and Rogue, scream in extreme pain. The Shadow King tells him he has a day to make a decision and then its gone. Charles tries to find him but his power is so strong he is blocking it. The next day, without telling anyone about the night before, Charls and the Shadow King meet on the psychic plane. What happens next is an epic battle, in this realm Charles is as feirce a fighter as Batman. But the Shadow King seems stronger. The fight goes on with Charles seeming to have no chance, but he rages on. Then Charles gets the upper hand and doesnt waist it. So he kills the Shadow King's body making his mind stuck in the psychic plane. Then hits the Shadow King with a force so hard he is left laying near death, broke back, and no limbs. Charles knows that he can't even let this mutant's mind live. And with a final strike he kills the Shadow King. He returns to his body, while it feels like he has been gone for a day in reality its only been a few minutes. Jean Grey comes in to wake him and see if he's OK and notices some blood on his lip. He tells her he must have just bitten himself without knowing in his sleep.

Or the Shadow King first wants to kill Xavier but then discovers Jean, and because he read Charles' mind he knows her true potential. So he targets her, leaving Charles Xavier with only one option. He has to kill the Shadow King. and then the epic battle starts, but it takes place in Jean's mind.

[Artistsean]

Things in the Future of Ultimate Marvel
instead of suits that make them stronger and fly SHIELD has finally perfected the superr soldier formula. Now all their agents are given the super soldier formula. and discussions are underway on the ethiccs of making the formula available to the army.

I thought that SHEILD already had the formula perfected, but they dont.

[GL1]

When Spider-Man turns 18 he should be forced to join the Ultimates, not become an anonymous agent of SHIELD. It just makes sense. He'll still have time to do some Spidery things on the side, but he will spend a lot of time on the Triskelion, and like many movie-style secret agents, Aunt May will not know that his "internship" is really a superhero gig. I do definitely like the idea of him schooling some of the greener heroes (who have seen more action than him btw, but with the advantage of a team) such as Iron Man, Thor, Quick Silver and Scarlet Witch. I also like the idea of this being temporary and Spider-Man figuring out some ingenious way to get out of it after a year or so. But he should be a MAIN Character in at least one 13 issue run of Ultimates.

As for Mimic, Bishop et al, I don't see why the public would feel they were only 'kind of mutants.' They have powers. The powers have limits, but light skinned black people are still considered black, not 'kind of black,' likewise, mutants is mutants.

Honestly, Fantastic Four should be unpredictable, and I like the different way it's going now.

And as for X-Men, it's getting so crazy, it's hard to keep up or appreciate. Me personally, I'd strectch for another Ultimate X-Book. I'd like to see the X-Men get distilled or organized a little bit more, with slower pacing. It's impossible to really 'get' anything since the roster is SO different every month and the consistent aspects of the roster are overlooked.

I'd like to see Cyclops and Jean break up. Shot heard round the world, with a physical battle to boot. Phoenix issues. Leadership issues. Jealousy issues. Bad stuff all around.

I'd do a miniseries "Ultimate Friends" starring Spider-Man, Ice-Man and Firestar as employed by Frenchwoman Adventurer Madame Cassandra Web taking them on a trip to take down vilains Judas Traveller and Scrier one and their crazy west coast cult that happens to have employed Justice, Tombstone and salvaged a Tri-Sentinel

More of the conspiracy. Xavier. Fury. Dr. Stephen Strange's father. Get a peek at Hydra's operatives.

I have a LOT of stuff on my mind, but I guess I'll have to let it go...

[deemar325]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I've got scrapnel in my back, and I'm a military man could I be a Weapon X?

[deemar325]

the man who calls himself Apocalypse awakes from his self induced hibernation.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/seanstarrunner/apocalypse.jpg
His body is covered in old Egyptian writing or cuniform, or maybe his own form of writing. The tatoos make up the designs on his body. The sum of all the writing on his body tells the story of the unstoppable Apocalypse. He is about 7 or 8 feet tall, and very bulky.
He wears clothes, not alien armor.
His real name is Abin Sur, he is one of the first known mutants in existance. He was born in Egypt centuries ago. Over the many years his powers grew, and then he began to force them to grow. His mental powers rival Xaveir's, he can read minds, control others (with some limilations), and move objects and people with his mind. He can also control his own molecules with his mind.



He is more human than the other Apocalypse, but he still seems unstoppable.

That's freaking awesome!!

[Manic]

When Spider-Man turns 18 he should be forced to join the Ultimates, not become an anonymous agent of SHIELD. It just makes sense. He'll still have time to do some Spidery things on the side, but he will spend a lot of time on the Triskelion, and like many movie-style secret agents, Aunt May will not know that his "internship" is really a superhero gig. I do definitely like the idea of him schooling some of the greener heroes (who have seen more action than him btw, but with the advantage of a team) such as Iron Man, Thor, Quick Silver and Scarlet Witch. I also like the idea of this being temporary and Spider-Man figuring out some ingenious way to get out of it after a year or so. But he should be a MAIN Character in at least one 13 issue run of Ultimates.
Spider-Man has only been at it a few months longer than the Ultimates. And he's only 16. By the time he turns 18, the Ultimates will have had a couple of years of experience. The only green heroes he'd be schooling would be the reserve Ultimates and SHIELD agents with stock powers... like the Giant Men, or those guys who wear the clunky prototype Iron Man suits.

I'd like to see Cyclops and Jean break up. Shot heard round the world, with a physical battle to boot. Phoenix issues. Leadership issues. Jealousy issues. Bad stuff all around.
I could totally see this happening. Cyclops actually went several arcs without ever seeing Jean turn into the Phoenix. When he finally heard her in "Most Dangerous Game", it freaked him the hell out.

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

i want to see nick fury just tell may that peter is spider-man and then just stand there and show peter that there is almost nothing that he can't do.

also maybe have may in a coma and nick takes custudy of him. have him send peter on a mission and after its over he goes AWOL and hides out with the likes of DD and the X-Men. maybe even have DD use some legal manuvering to stop nick.

[deemar325]

^ You been Puff-n-Stuff?

[Artistsean]

Nick Fury isnt a heartless guy. I think he would maybe tell Aunt May. that might be a cool turn. But Id also like to see Aunt May just know. Peter suffers for weeks over telling her and not telling her. Nearly having a heart attack over it, then he gets up the courage and she knows.
I think that sometime or another a family member or close friend would figure out that their friend is Spider-man. I was hoping Mary Jane would, but I liked how they handled it. Peter had to tell someone.
But it would be cool.
They could have a huge argument over it too. Peter tells her Uncle Ben told me with great power comes great responcibility, and Aunt May could say,
"What does that even mean, I don't get that at all." and say something totally apposing to that but still makes sence.

Id like to see Wilson Fisk return, become more of a businessman in the eye like Lex luther. Real rich and powerful, a wise investor, and take his company to a whole new level of power. He even buys oscorp.
But as the Kingpin he becomes not just a criminal, but a world threat. Someone who would go on the 10 most wanted, if they could figure out who he was.

I would like to see Peter become an agent, not necissarily leave Spider-Man behind forever or maybe not at all, but definatly be a secret agent for a while. He gets an Ultimates version of his Spider-suit, he could even joke about it. This could also start the SHIELD trying to make more Spider-Men.
They secretly take some of Peter's DNA and experiment with it to recreate his powers in their agents.

jean and Scott plan to get engaged, and at their age it would freak everyone out.

And mutants like Mimic, Bishop, Black Tom, they arent seen as half mutants by humans. They are seen as half Mutants by mutant elitists like Magneto. To most humans they are just seen as mutants. Xavier notices, as Im sure SHEILD would too, that there are different levels of mutations.

[supermarvelman]

Dude u would be ****ing Mimic way to hard

[supermarvelman]

Whenever he debuts in Ultimate X-men he better be as powerful as he is in 616

[SpideyInATree]

The future of Ultimate Marvel is bright, as far as I'm concerned.

Bendis has been doing an awesome Ultimate Spidey and Mark Millar's run on Ultimate Fantastic Four has been great as well. Vaughn's run on Ultimate X-Men was definitely something that runs along the lines of classic. And with Kirkman taking over that book I sense nothing but good things.

And, I mean, come on...The Ultimates is the best book that Marvel puts out.

The Ultimate Universe has a hell of a lot of life going right now. The regular universe better watch out because it's starting to look like the newer one is better than the traditional older one. :O

[November Rain]

Ultimate Nate Grey is made by shield.

Ultimate Cable comes back in time to protect his parents

[Artistsean]

I think if they were to have Cable, it would have to be in something like a man comes to their mansion claiming to be their son from the future. But because of his great psychic powers Xavier and jean can't read his mind to see if its true. He comes back in time without any high tech weapons or things like that.
He is a excellent at hand to hand combat, and skilled in the weapons from modren time too. His powers are vast psychic and telekinetics abilities.
He has a scar on one eye, and prematured gray hair. Im not sure how ultimate marvel would handle his robot parts like his arm.
But thats how I think they could bring him in, only I had the same idea for Bishop, only Bishop's mind is a little frazzled from the time jump while I would have Cable be very clear headed and almost diabolical seeming. Another difference between the two ideas would be that there are signs that Bishop existed in the past too, but it still can't be proven that he isnt from the future.
Were as Id have Cable have no past at all, and no signs or clues to a past.
But I think they should only include Cable or Bishop.

[Manic]

I'm against time travel in the Ultimate universe. It complicated things way too much in the 616 universe, and the last thing the Ultimate universe needs is alternate-Ultimate worlds that will only confuse readers further.

I want to see the Dayspring Twins: Nathan and Rachel. They could be two mutant psychic mercenaries who cross paths with the X-Men on one of their jobs. With Nathan's glowing eye and Rachel's red hair, they could imply that they share some kind of relation to Scott & Jean, but dismiss it at the end of the story as an amazing coincidence.

[Artistsean]

I agree, thats why if they did Bishop or Cable, but only one of the two, they would have to have a possible deniability to them being from the future. Sort of like how right now no one is sure if Thor is a god but no one can say he isnt either.
I do think that if Cable was intorduced it could become a heavy issue with jean and Scott. Because it iplies that they get married and have kids in the future, and right now they are only 19 and thats alot a pressure for them.
Plus Cable could seem like a coniving guy, who is secretly evil and plotting against them. (thats what it would seem like from his character, he would be too calm and level headed.)Im still having a hard time think of how they would explain his robot parts.
maybe he arrives after the whole Legacy Virus situation(created by SHEILD), and he was infected but he claims that the Legacy Virus is still a problem in the future.

Anyway, i agree. They shouldnt do time travelling in the Ultimate universe. Only way they could get away with it is if its like with Thor and they can deny it too.

[Artistsean]

The legacy Virus
it is created by SHEILD as a precotion only, not to be used unless the mutants become a global threat. Or at least thats what Fury says. It has been worked on every since the start of Ultimate X-Men. And now they are perfecting it.
it effects only mutants, or is suppossed to only effect mutants. But maybe it effects any super humans, because of their altered DNA.
The virus doesnt make people look like robots or have robot parts, or look like they are covere in circutry. But its effects are vissible on the surface. and shouldnt just be sours or spots, or bumps. But they are vissible.

Anyone have any idea how to have the legacy virus be vissible on the skin and not look like sours or circutry?

[TheSumOfGod]

The future of Ultimate Marvel? Cap is elected President (gets 98% of the votes), and returns America to the way it was in it's prime in the 1940's. Except with more boobies. ;)

[SpideyInATree]

and the last thing the Ultimate universe needs is alternate-Ultimate worlds that will only confuse readers further.

They did have alternate worlds in the Ultimate Universe already. Ultimate Fantastic Four had a story about an alternate dimension where the heroes of the Marvel Universe turned into zombies. So...too late. :O

[Manic]

Technically, isn't the Ult. Fantastic Four traveling through the same multiverse the Exiles are? That's not a problem for me.

I'm talking about alternate future offshoot realities. For example, Days of Future Past is an alternate future derived from 616 (the division being made somewhere circa the Phoenix Saga). The Askani timeline is an offshoot of 616 as well. So is Bishop's timeline. What I'm saying is that giving the Ultimate universe offshoot future timelines will only confuse readers. I have a hard enough time as it is explaining to people what the Ultimate universe is, let alone the difference between 616 Cable and Ultimate Cable's 4 native timelines (616, Askani, Ultimate, and Ultimate Askani).

[Unleashed]

They did have alternate worlds in the Ultimate Universe already. Ultimate Fantastic Four had a story about an alternate dimension where the heroes of the Marvel Universe turned into zombies. So...too late. :O
AHHH!!! There's no such thing as an alternate Ultimate universe. The Ultimate universe IS an alternate universe!!!!

[SpideyInATree]

AHHH!!! There's no such thing as an alternate Ultimate universe. The Ultimate universe IS an alternate universe!!!!

Well, I think there needs to be a better definition of an "alternate world" then.

Because I figured by the UFF going to the Zombie world would be an "alternate world". What would you call it? Normal? :confused:

[ang_hulk]

rhodes becomes ultimate war machine.he designs "war machines" and is black and is tonys friend and has worn and worked with armor,its only natural.

[Manic]

rhodes becomes ultimate war machine.he designs "war machines" and is black and is tonys friend and has worn and worked with armor,its only natural.
That'd be fine and dandy, if Black Widow wasn't already wearing what's essentially the War Machine armor.

[XwolverineX]

That'd be fine and dandy, if Black Widow wasn't already wearing what's essentially the War Machine armor.


Yeah, she's a dumb *****.

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

what if the ult. future was a good place? and people come back in time but they can only do it like in quantum leap but somethiing goes wrong and one of the time travlers get stuck in the body of a mutant and he tries to explane only to be sent to nut house.

[Artistsean]

Another idea

SHEILD was able to break the super soldier serum that made Captain America. Not only did this allow SHEILD to turn all its agents into Super Soldiers, but it also opened up the door for cryogenic freezing. The serum kept Steve Rogers in a state of suspended animation and kept his body from freezing and dying. SHEILD is now experimenting with this process to freeze terminally ill patiants until cures, or to freeze criminals in an effort to control the increasing number of people in prisons, or even to freeze heroes like Captain America until their country needs them but only if they consent to it.
The serum is also being looked at for its other purposes, maybe by altering the formula a little they can create a healing serum. A serum that could cure some illnesses and speed up the healing process in regular humans.


Another possible occurance in the future is that Tony Stark will retire as Iron Man and focusses more on his company, leaving the spot open for another to take up the mantel like the scientist who helped him create the original armor Mr. Rhodes.
Rhodes becomes SHEILD's new Iron Man (not War machine).

[Artistsean]

based on recent events in ultimates, (spoiler ahead!)
(Hank Pym is working with the Liberators, and helped take down SHEILD. He hasa control over his Ultron robots and is using the Ant Man persona.)
This idea combines trial and his getting kicked off the team, changing his persona to Yellow Jacket, using a robot to attack the Avengers so he can stop it to make himself look good, and the attack of ultron, all in one big mixed up and Ultimized story idea.

Because of this turn of events here is my version of
the Ultimate Trial of hank Pym

Hank is tried for treason, maybe uses the Ultron robots to escape, changes his identiy to Yellow Jacket (costume looks similar to both Giant Man and his Ant Man costumes, just slightly moidified) to go along with his new powers he has created, and when the Ultimates finally track him down he is being guarded by all his Ultron robots (looking more like the regular Ultron, in the face anyway) who are now outfitted with advanced weaponry.
But In a big battle, all the robots are taken down and Hank is captured. He goes back on trial and put in prison, and possibly faces the death penalty, for his actions.

[Caliber]

I think Pym is going to help the Ultimates so he can get back on the team. What better way than work with the bad guys then betray them.

[Artistsean]

yeagh, me too.

[Artistsean]

Some quick ideas
Sometime in the near future Reed Richards and Sue Storm get married. They have a wedding attended by Johnny and Ben, Nick Fury, now with one arm, members of the Ultimates, members of the X-Men, and Spider-Man. The issue is brought up to Nick Fury by one of his bosses maybe, that their union can be seen a a future threat. But it is not talked about much more than that.
later on down the road, maybe after four or five story arcs, Sue thinks she is pregnant. This brings up the whole issue again about their union being a threat. It sort of spooks SHEILD and the higher ranking bosses, but not really Nick Fury. He just has to take into acount the possible threat.
Even Sue and Reed talk about it. Their child will be the child of two genetically altered super powered beings, who knows what their child will be able to do. They even talk about how the pregnancy might be dangerous to the baby or Sue because of her altered DNA. Maybe Reed and Sue and the Four aretalked to about this by Nick Fury and SHEILD and maybe even some other heroes like Captain America, Tony Stark, Charles Xavier, and Spider-Man.
Ultimately it is revealed that Sue is not pregnant, to her and Reed's saddness. Everyone in the four is sad about it.
But it does get Reed and Sue to talking about having children in the future. They even decide on names, just incase. Franklin for a boy, and Valeria for a girl.

Also they Four tangle with the Puppet Master, but they come out of it with a happy new relationship. Ben has been sullen and depressed ever since being transformed. But that was until he met Alicia Master, the Puppet Master's step daughter. She is blind, and a brilliant artist. She could see Ben's true self, and fell in love with him.
I just think its time they brought in Alicia, if they haven't already.

SHEILD and Canada's Department H start a partnership. The two share weapons and technology with the other and agreements are made to help one another in future defense programs.
SHEILD gives Department H their most basic blue prints for the Sentinels, which Department H uses to create their own versions called Box robots. They also lend them up grade blue prints for Tony Stark's Iron Man armor, which Department H uses to upgrade their Weapon Alpha armor for Agent Hudson. They also give Department H one of the flight suits like Captain Britian's, Captain Spain's, and so on. They put a former mounty and soldier, now Department H agent, in charge of wearing it. The suit is codenamed Major Mapleleaf. Like the other "Four Seaons" suited men, his strength is increased, and he gains the ability to fly.
Along with Major Mapleleaf, as a Alpha Flight reserve, or back up, other agents are added. Such as Agent Snowbord. A young mutant woman with the ability to morph her body into a limited number of animals. She and Major Mappleleaf, and a few others, like Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, arent officially on Alpha Flight. But they do go on missions for Department H and sometimes with Alpha Flight.

[THANOSRULES]

I think Pym is going to help the Ultimates so he can get back on the team. What better way than work with the bad guys then betray them.

I totally agree...Pym will Turn back to the Ultimates ..probably in issue 11..he seemed very aloof and distant in issue 10...maybe he was even some kind of mole all along...who knows.


Tony Stark is going to have his drinking catch up with him...so I could see him not being Iron man by Ultimates 3..but I doubt it will effect this current arc..

Loki and Thor still need to be resolved...I think your gonna see Loki as more behind this than we expect...or else at least somthing very nefarious is at the root.

[Artistsean]

I totally agree...Pym will Turn back to the Ultimates ..probably in issue 11..he seemed very aloof and distant in issue 10...maybe he was even some kind of mole all along...who knows.

yeagh, Id just like to see the Ultimate version of the trial of Hank Pym, maybe he would be the Ultimate character to be executed.
Maybe, if Ultron is one of the villians in Ultimates 3, Pym and his robots will be evil. Or maybe Ultron is upgraded by the terrorists.

Tony Stark is going to have his drinking catch up with him...so I could see him not being Iron man by Ultimates 3..but I doubt it will effect this current arc..
Maybe Tony will turn out to be like Bender on Futuramma, Alchohol is good for him, no alchohol is bad for him.
But I could see him retire in the near future, but maybe to focus more on his company.

Loki and Thor still need to be resolved...I think your gonna see Loki as more behind this than we expect...or else at least somthing very nefarious is at the root.
Im interested to see how they wind this all up, what is the cause of all this and how do they defeate it? Im expecting a huge climactic ending.

[Caliber]

yeagh, Id just like to see the Ultimate version of the trial of Hank Pym, maybe he would be the Ultimate character to be executed.
Maybe, if Ultron is one of the villians in Ultimates 3, Pym and his robots will be evil. Or maybe Ultron is upgraded by the terrorists.


Maybe Tony will turn out to be like Bender on Futuramma, Alchohol is good for him, no alchohol is bad for him.
But I could see him retire in the near future, but maybe to focus more on his company.


Im interested to see how they wind this all up, what is the cause of all this and how do they defeate it? Im expecting a huge climactic ending.

I think Pym has been trying to redeem himself since the end of the volume 2 of the Ultimates. So he would aid the enemy just enough to know how he use them as a way to redeem himself. It could work against him but he could gain a second chance after that.

[Artistsean]

Ultimate Cable is going to apear in Ultimate X-Men,
I don't know how, but if they introduce time traveling in the Ultimate Universe it might mess things up.

[ang_hulk]

Id like a fury mini,telling his past tales and how he bacame head of shield,i know a few others have mentioned this to,I think it would be great showing were he started and any bumps along the way.

[ang_hulk]

The ultimates gettings a few more mutants as members,mabey a few x-men.A mass human fear wave for super humans and fury and the president figureing out how to clear there names.Hulk getting a presidential pardon.a space base for the ultimates and mabey some vehicles.the FF being taken under shields wing and last but not least

"reed how did our tests come out?"-sue
"I didnt tihnk It was possible,I thought for sure It couldent happens,I......I was certain it wouldent happen"-reed
"what,what is happening to us?"-sue
"I thought for sure,I mean I was certain it couldent"-reed
"reed whats happening to us....o my god..........This says im pregnant!"-sue
"......your pregnant"-reed"

[ang_hulk]

I think Pym is going to help the Ultimates so he can get back on the team. What better way than work with the bad guys then betray them.

he will prolly help them defeat ultron,or rather the army of ultrons.

[Artistsean]

I love the idea of Reed and Sue having a baby, I could see just the idea of this causing people in the white house and SHEILD to panic and maybe try and stop it. It would be an interesting storyline.

I think they could introduce Ultimate Inhumans in the pages of Ultimate FF in an idea like this: what happens when a society of mutants isolates themselves for several years.
Almost like a case study or research, Reed and Sue, and Ben and Johnny, find a society of mutants who have been isolated for more than 10 years, probably much much more. They live like my earlier idea, with Blackbolt being Emperor and the royal family, and the kingdom and such. The story would still include an assassination plot by Blackbolts brother, and then a small battle between the Inhuman's and their army and maximus' army.
But we aslo see that because of their isolation the mutations mutated further and grander. Not one person in the whole Inhuman kingdom is a non mutant. Some powers seem almost cosmic, and some mutants don't even resemble humans at all. Even the plant and animal life has mutated much further than the rest of the worlds.

The story could be a look at the evolution of mutants and of mankind as a whole.

[Spider-Gamer]

I thought the Ultimate Inhumans were already introduced in the Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual last year?:confused:

[deemar325]

I think Bishop would be another one of the sort of mutants. He can blast forces of energy out of his body, but only after he absorbes the blast of another mutant's energy. Without absorbing another mutants energy he is sort of normal. he can be around several mutants, even Cyslops and havok, unless he has been hit directly or was able to absorb enough energy in the air, he can not blast energy back. Bishop isnt harmless when he has no energy to absorbe and blast back, he is highly trained in fighting in hand to hand combat.

(In my head, Bishop is a mutant who winds up on the X-Men's door step. He claims to be from a horrific future, but they can not prove he is telling the truth or not. Sort of like Thor, no one can tell. Not even Xavier because his mind is so warped, from what he says was the jump back in time. He has a M tatoo on his forhead, and a barcode on his forarm. No future weapons because they cannot travel, so he can't use that to prove he is from the future.)

But anyway, he is one of the mutants who arent exactly a mutant and arent exaclty human.

That doesn't make sense, either your a mutant or not a mutant.

[Artistsean]

They did use the Inhumans already, but I had this idea before that.

I was thinking, in the Ultimate Universe, there could be different levels of mutants almost like stages in evolution. There arent just, all of a sudden, humans and then mutants. Some mutants only show powers in the company or because of other mutants, and in my idea these mutants wouldn't be accepted by everyone.
Some mutants, like Magneto and his followers, would view these mutants as not "Real Mutants" or "Half Mutants". And the humans would view them as just mutants without any difference. So many of these mutants, especially Mimic, feel like outsiders with no place to go.

[deemar325]

Theres no point to half-mutants.

[Artistsean]

the point of my idea would be to show a more realistic, or different, view of evolution and mutation. Like when there are frogs with three eyes or cats with two tongues. Mutations start small and continue over time. Not all mutants have full on awsome powers like the X-Men, some just look weird or have small powers or have powers that require objects or other mutants. Its a way to introduce mutants like Mimic, Bishop, or Black Tim Cassidy, and to explain why Bishop absorbs power from other mutants, or Mimic mimics other mutants, or why Black Tom needs wood to use his powers, in an intersting way that seems ultimate. The other point would be to introduce these mutants, mostly Mimic, who are technically mutants but feel like outsiders from both groups.
but your entilted to nt like my idea if you want. I like it though.

[Artistsean]

I hope that they do something like my idea for the Cable story, make him something like the Ultimates' Thor where no one can really tell if he is from the future or not. you cannot prove it or dissprove it, and they offer evidence for both.
If the characters says he is from the future i hope he tells them he is the son of Cyclops and Jean Grey. That might be neat to show the effects of this news on them and their relationship, and how everyone else reacts to this news would be interesting.
Thats if they make him from the future. I don't know what they would do with him to make him not from the future.

[i'm Spider-Man]

see Sean what you're basically describing is the 'Class' system that they currently use in the 616 comics... sometimes.

for example, Iceman, Jean Grey, Franklin Richards, are all 'Omega-Class' mutants. they can manipulate matter on the molecular level, in different ways and for different effects, but essentially they do the same thing.

it's basically about evolutionary potential. if there's no defined limit to your powers, if you can't say about someone's powers "oh, they can't do that" with a 100% certainty... then they are more than likely Omega-level.

[Artistsean]

I didn't actually know about the class system in regular marvel, but I still think it would be a good idea for Ultimate Marvel.

[Tropico]

That doesn't make sense, either your a mutant or not a mutant.

Exactly, once your genes are "warped" you're a mutant. There isn't such a thing as an "almost mutant" or "very mutant" mutant.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Ultimate "Crisis": Where they merge all the Ultimate books and the regular Marvel books into one comic line. Yet they still don't explain PowerGirl's origin or where the heck Donna Troy came from.

[Manic]

Ultimate "Crisis": Where they merge all the Ultimate books and the regular Marvel books into one comic line. Yet they still don't explain PowerGirl's origin or where the heck Donna Troy came from.
Or how exactly Barry died.

[SonOfCthulhu]

Or how exactly Barry died.

He's not dead. Barry's got a town home in the speed force.

[Artistsean]

Exactly, once your genes are "warped" you're a mutant. There isn't such a thing as an "almost mutant" or "very mutant" mutant.

Not that they aren't "technically" mutants because they are mutants, its just that other mutant extremists like Magneto don't see them as what he calls "Full Mutants" (superior mutants in his eyes). "Full Mutants" being a term that gets used by some, its not a technical word or an actual classification, just term that is made up by Magneto or someone like him who treats it like it is a real way to classify other mutants. These mutants don't have to use objects or other mutants to use their powers. Magneto and other mutants like him see thse mutants as lesser mutants.
Yes they are mutants, but some mutants don't see them as real mutants.
These mutants are seen by humans as just mutants, humans don't see the variations of mutations. They don't see that some have extreme powers, like Cyclops or Xavier or magneto, and that some have minor powers, or that some just look strange (like being covered in fur) and don't have any powers at all. To these humans, because not all humans are like that, to these humans any mutation makes you a mutant.
thats what I meant, not that they weren't mutants, they are. They are just looked down on by some mutants as not "real" mutants. and at the same time they are seen as just another mutant by the humans.
So they feel even more isolated and alone than most mutants.

[RAMORE]

Some of these are good ideas. I would like to see spidey work with shield but on the covert side and i could see them being like you need a new costume when you work for us because everyone hates you:p

[Artistsean]

right, Nick Fury has said that once Peter is 18 he will have to work for SHEILD. But Spider-Man is seen by the public as a menace and a vigilantee, a criminal. So They wouldn't have him keep the same suit, but Spider-Man would also want out too. It would make a good plot for a 13 issue story.

I'd also like to see Tony Stark create a sleaker looking Iron Man armor, not as sleak looking as the regular marvel version but sleaker than his own. hew said early on in Ultimates that everytime the public sees him wearing the suit his aproval rating and stock drops a little. I'd like to see him create a more apealing looking suit based on polls and market research. Because he is thinking that his stock and approval goes down becuase the suit looks bad.