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The Amazing Lee
02-06-2006, 12:39 PM
Who do you want to be the main villain and WHY.

back up your opinions and say why that person would make a good choice. Not just "Venom. Cuz he rules and has cool moves and stuff"

Doctor Octopus
02-06-2006, 12:41 PM
Electro.

Because he's the only villain physically suitable for Grace,and one of the few cool villains who has the remotest chance of his story not being rushed or butchered,like Venom's would be if it was crammed in.

djb_80
02-06-2006, 12:42 PM
Venom:

Cuz he rules and has cool moves and stuff:)

MaxCarnage
02-06-2006, 12:45 PM
Electro. I just think that there are too many classic villains that should be portrayed before Venom; I would rather not get into the whole "symbiote" crisis in the films; and I just plain am not a Venom fan.

Goran
02-06-2006, 12:53 PM
Electro... would suit Topher much better.

Immortalfire
02-06-2006, 12:56 PM
If I had to choose, for this movie? Electro.

The_Raven
02-06-2006, 12:59 PM
Electro. Both because I personally like him more, and I feel it's too early to introduce Venom.

The Amazing Lee
02-06-2006, 01:00 PM
At the hope of Electro being in the film over Venom. I'm more excited over the prospect.

Mainly because even though I love venom as a character. I just don't think a film can carry his story in the way that Raimi tells his stories.

Sean Adisano
02-06-2006, 01:00 PM
sorry guys, but i say venom. i am a venom fan, and do want him in these movies, but i also don't want him rushed. i would like him to be introduced, brock i mean, and biult up for spidey4. yea, it would be a little cramped by adding the symbiote story in the movie. but i trust raimi and the whole spidey orginazation to give us the best story possible for this film. they will deliver, no doubt in my mind.

plus, venom is just a crazy villian to spider-man. just imagine the battles that would be between them. it is something very desirable to see.
just my opinion.

Silver Sable
02-06-2006, 01:09 PM
Electro.Topher looks more like Max then Eddie

Sean Adisano
02-06-2006, 01:13 PM
Electro.Topher looks more like Max then Eddie

but we don't know if raimi has a different view of brock in his mind for his story(assuming topher is playing brock).

but, i must agree, topher does look more like max dillion, than eddie brock.

The Amazing Lee
02-06-2006, 01:25 PM
Raimi always said he didn't have much interest in venom.

Unless he was either bluffing or is being pressured by the studios.

Sean Adisano
02-06-2006, 01:32 PM
Raimi always said he didn't have much interest in venom.

Unless he was either bluffing or is being pressured by the studios.

bluffing.

he's not one to be pressured by anyone. these films are his stories, and he will never let anyone tell him how to tell these stories.

boywonder13
02-06-2006, 01:33 PM
Electro!

We atlest need the symbiote in this movie to show Spider-man have it and than loose it and than Venom in Spider-Man 4.

Hobgoblin and Electro, and Sandman work much better than venom with the two.

The Amazing Lee
02-06-2006, 01:36 PM
bluffing.

he's not one to be pressured by anyone. these films are his stories, and he will never let anyone tell him how to tell these stories.

Or so you think. Studying the media the director doesn't ALWAYS have the final say. It depends what Sony wants in the film and Marvel (I'm guessing) but more Sony's say because they are paying for the film.

They call the shots ;)

The Amazing Lee
02-06-2006, 01:43 PM
bluffing.

he's not one to be pressured by anyone. these films are his stories, and he will never let anyone tell him how to tell these stories.

Or so you think. Studying the media the director doesn't ALWAYS have the final say. It depends what Sony wants in the film and Marvel (I'm guessing) but more Sony's say because they are paying for the film.

They call the shots ;)

Sean Adisano
02-06-2006, 01:51 PM
Or so you think. Studying the media the director doesn't ALWAYS have the final say. It depends what Sony wants in the film and Marvel (I'm guessing) but more Sony's say because they are paying for the film.

They call the shots ;)

:( bad news just keeps coming and coming

lordofthenerds
02-06-2006, 02:03 PM
Venom. I've been waiting for Venom to be in a Spidey movie sense the first movie. He could have some really cool action sequences.

Cartoonics
02-06-2006, 02:08 PM
I never really liked Electro as a character, but he wouldn't be carrying the movie alone so it could work out fine. And there's a solid chance that Electro now means a better Venom later. This is not a casting issue (I don't mind Topher as Ultimate Eddie Brock) but a matter of having enough time to tell the story.

I think either way, the black costume needs to be introduced in SM-3, regardless of which origin they use for it.

dark_b
02-06-2006, 02:10 PM
topher doesnt look like brock? it looks like that fans dont like ultimate spiderman.

The Lizard
02-06-2006, 02:11 PM
If played by Topher in SM3, I'd have to go with Electro.

Venom'sDad
02-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Of coarse Electro.... I made a case for him.... :)

Cmill216
02-06-2006, 02:51 PM
http://www.samruby.com/Villains/HydroMan/Hydroman.gif

I think Topher would be a good fit for Electro, but I'd like to see him as Hydro Man, simply because of the element that this could present in the film: Hydro Man blames Spider-Man for his mutation (if you know his origin of course:) ), Harry blames Spider-Man for his father's death, and Gwen blames him for her father's death (if Captain Stacy were to die). That would present an interesting set of conflicts and an amazing climax at the end, and also could represent a thematic moment in which Peter questions whether or not Spider-Man is a benefit to humanity at all.

Just a thought.

Sean Adisano
02-06-2006, 04:14 PM
http://members.fortunecity.com/drg01/hydro23.JPG

http://members.fortunecity.com/drg01/hydro11.JPG

I think he'd be a good fit for Electro, but I'd like to see him as Hydro Man, simply because of the element that this could present in the film: Hydro Man blames Spider-Man for his mutation (if you know his origin of course:) ), Harry blames Spider-Man for his father's death, and Gwen blames him for her father's death (if Captain Stacy were to die). That would present an interesting set of conflicts and an amazing climax at the end, and also could represent a thematic moment in which Peter questions whether or not Spider-Man is a benefit to humanity at all.

Just a thought.

isn't hydro-man obsessed with m.j:confused:

or am i wrong...

GoldGoblin
02-06-2006, 04:39 PM
I wish Raimi would of used the Lizard with the Sandman,but I would rather see Electro with the Sandman instead of Venom.

"Iron Man"
02-06-2006, 05:43 PM
I definetly want Eddie Brock/Venom to be in one of these movies, but not 3, because it's too quick. They need to have Topher play Electro, because he does indeed look like Maxwell Dillion, and it would also be a great cinematic experience to see Electro. What would be worse: Topher playing Rhino, or Venom?

P.S. I kind of like the idea of Topher playing Hydro-Man, plus he is one of the villains on the Official site villain gallery. And Hydro-Man has blonde hair. Hmmm...Could
all of this mean something?

GarzaUK
02-06-2006, 05:57 PM
What concerns me his that Topher dropped That 70's Show for this which would mean he would be in more than one movie. Electro is a one movie villian. Venom isn't.

But for topher I'd really prefer Electro.

tonytr1687
02-06-2006, 06:00 PM
What concerns me his that Topher dropped That 70's Show for this which would mean he would be in more than one movie. Electro is a one movie villian. Venom isn't.

But for topher I'd really prefer Electro.

Didnt he drop That 70's Show long before signing on to SM3?

GarzaUK
02-06-2006, 06:01 PM
Didnt he drop That 70's Show long before signing on to SM3?

I thought he dropped it because of SM3. Anyone want to clarify???

Cmill216
02-06-2006, 06:05 PM
Didnt he drop That 70's Show long before signing on to SM3?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did.

Sean Adisano
02-06-2006, 06:07 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did.

yea he did. because he did that movie with denise quaid after that 70's show, then he got on with spidey 3.

Cmill216
02-06-2006, 06:07 PM
I thought he dropped it because of SM3. Anyone want to clarify???

No, it was his movie career in general (In Good Company, Win A Date with Ted Hamilton). He was leaving to pursue movies and shortly after he officially ended his run on That 70s Show he signed on for Spider-Man in May. He was still shooting "T70S" in January: (http://tophergracefan.com/press/) One of the articles talks about shooting his last episodes of the show.

Norman Osborn
02-06-2006, 06:13 PM
Electro.....story can be told properly while sharing with two other super villains...same can not be said for Venom..

venomous
02-06-2006, 06:20 PM
I want Venom! But lets be realistic, it's too soon, it would take way too long (more than one movie), and topher just doesn't look the part, therefore.....Electro!

TIGER SHARK
02-06-2006, 06:38 PM
Venom is better, but Electro is easier and would fit better with all the crap they are throwing into this film. :mad:

the Firestarter
02-06-2006, 09:03 PM
electro, because similar to sandman his character can be developed quickly while there needs to be more buildup to venom. imho brock should be introduced in spidey3 and venom should wait until the next movie.

Spencer9
02-06-2006, 09:17 PM
I love Venom, I really do, but I don't want to see him rushed so Electro. He would work better with Harry and Sandman anyway. Venom needs his own movie unless with Carnage.

Silver Sable
02-06-2006, 09:44 PM
isn't hydro-man obsessed with m.j:confused:

or am i wrong...

That was only in the cartoon.I have no idea why they made it that way.They never met/dated in the comics

The Shredder
02-06-2006, 09:51 PM
That was only in the cartoon.I have no idea why they made it that way.They never met/dated in the comics

I actually liked the idea. It seemed to give him a bit more depth as a character.

Same goes for the animated version of Brainiac. Who's animated backstory made him a better, and more menacing villian, IMO.

hulkamania85
02-06-2006, 10:47 PM
topher doesnt look like brock? it looks like that fans dont like ultimate spiderman.

616 Venom would be better suited for a film as far as intimidation goes when he isn't in costume.

I think the Rock would have been a good Eddie Brock, even if it meant the inevitable fanboy pissing and moaning because Eddie is white in the comics.

Landis-Wolf
02-06-2006, 11:06 PM
Electro.
He is my favourite, and he could also serve as Sandmans executioner ala The Cameron Scriptment.

Spider-Bite
02-06-2006, 11:48 PM
I would rather never have electro, but I don't want Venom in this movie either.

The Hurricane
02-06-2006, 11:56 PM
I would prefer topher to play Elector but i want venom in the movie bad enough I would let him play eddie Brock.

Venom is a more emotional character with more ties to Peter/Spidey compared to elector. If electro is chosen I think we will see that Stan lee is having majority of the say in the movies. In the 5 disc set in spiderman 1 Stan lee names his favorate villains and so his top 3 are in the movies next choice would be electro. So im guessing its probaby electro

tonytr1687
02-06-2006, 11:58 PM
I would prefer topher to play Elector but i want venom in the movie bad enough I would let him play eddie Brock.

Venom is a more emotional character with more ties to Peter/Spidey compared to elector. If electro is chosen I think we will see that Stan lee is having majority of the say in the movies. In the 5 disc set in spiderman 1 Stan lee names his favorate villains and so his top 3 are in the movies next choice would be electro. So im guessing its probaby electro

Yah but if he's Venom we'll be getting a rushed and watered-down version of him. Do you want that? I think not...

tonytr1687
02-06-2006, 11:59 PM
616 Venom would be better suited for a film as far as intimidation goes when he isn't in costume.

I think the Rock would have been a good Eddie Brock, even if it meant the inevitable fanboy pissing and moaning because Eddie is white in the comics.

So you'd rather have a big muscular guy who cant act just b/c he has the look?

The Hurricane
02-07-2006, 12:25 AM
Yah but if he's Venom we'll be getting a rushed and watered-down version of him. Do you want that? I think not...
Thats very true. I dont know what I want

ZeroCorpse
02-07-2006, 01:25 AM
I voted Electro.

However, he could be playing Paste Pot Pete, The Spot, or The Ringer, and he'd still be more interesting than that waste of time McFarlane abortion called Venom.

Visionary
02-07-2006, 01:39 AM
EEEEEEEEEELEEEEEEEEEECTROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ongie
02-07-2006, 01:46 AM
Venom. Plain and simple.
It's time for him.

Visionary
02-07-2006, 02:07 AM
I do want to see that amazing black symbiote suit on Spider-Man. When the adverage/casual/non-fan movie goers sees Spidey wearing that black costume (on posters, toys, promos, especially in the trailers) the intrigue is going to be uncannily huge. :cool:

David33
02-07-2006, 02:45 AM
Lets see.FF movie,Doom is a billionaire with electric powers.
Electro: billionaire with electric powers.
http://countingdown.com/movies/2756481/board?viewpost=3824820

Do you really think Raimi and Arad are so stupid to choose a villain for SM3 that is so similar to Doom???.Not only similar,but a Doom replica....come on...

Sean Adisano
02-07-2006, 05:50 AM
That was only in the cartoon.I have no idea why they made it that way.They never met/dated in the comics

:up: thanks for clearing that up for me. i was a little confused there.

November Rain
02-07-2006, 05:56 AM
electro at full hog would be nice, but he's incredibly over powered and having spidey defeat him would be unrealistic, kinda like spidey going after magneto on his own.

and venom is so over powered anyway that any means spidey has of defeating him will just be so bad and uneasy to swallow, and you know full well that when it comes to righting spidey's going to beat either one of them in the lamest way possible.

especially venom, his motivation is a personal one and i couldn't see anyone being that angry against one person, just completely obsessed with nothing else but ruining parkers life. What's worse is that he has all the tools to do so but he still manages to mess up, i mean literally he has ALL THE TOOLS, i mean surely they can't have a villain being that dumb.

Silver Sable
02-07-2006, 10:24 AM
:up: thanks for clearing that up for me. i was a little confused there.

No sweat

PWN3R
02-07-2006, 12:44 PM
isn't hydro-man obsessed with m.j:confused:

or am i wrong...

No your right, just like my obsession with SUGERMAN!!!1111 :eek:

Darth Elektra
02-07-2006, 12:53 PM
Venom should be the villian.

Sean Adisano
02-07-2006, 12:54 PM
No your right, just like my obsession with SUGERMAN!!!1111 :eek:

ok, take it easy... its going to be all right :up: :O

HughJackFan420
02-07-2006, 01:06 PM
Lets see.FF movie,Doom is a billionaire with electric powers.
Electro: billionaire with electric powers.
http://countingdown.com/movies/2756481/board?viewpost=3824820

Do you really think Raimi and Arad are so stupid to choose a villain for SM3 that is so similar to Doom???.Not only similar,but a Doom replica....come on...

/\lame comparison

i mean Electro is all electricity. he eats sleeps sh**s electricity

Dr. Doom can transfer psionically his conciousness

he practices sorcery abilities that allow to blast mystical energy as well as protective shields ties up enemies with energy bands and creates portals to other planes.

oh yeah Electro and Dr. Doom are sooooooooooooo alike

i hate when people try to compare Marvel characters with others just for the sake of what they've already saw on the silver screen lame lame lame

PWN3R
02-07-2006, 02:58 PM
ok, take it easy... its going to be all right :up: :O


I think I'm ok now.....

CaptainStacy
02-07-2006, 02:59 PM
Electro.

I'm endlessly fascinated by all the villains created during the Lee & Ditko era, and personally, it's my opinion that any of those rogues (with the possible exception of Big Man & The Enforcers) deserve the silver screen treatment long before Venom does, by virtue of senority alone. (and i only omit The Enforcers due to their lack of visual spectacle, which i admit is nescessary to drive these big budget summer blockbusters)...

Mind you; i LIKE Venom. And i believe that Grace has the acting chops to pull off a Venom appearance, performance-wise. I just don't think he will EVER have the raw, physical bulk so closely associated with the character to ever please the hardcore fans.

Grace would have a much easier time adapting Max Dillon instead, imo.

Spider-Bite
02-07-2006, 04:17 PM
electro at full hog would be nice, but he's incredibly over powered and having spidey defeat him would be unrealistic, kinda like spidey going after magneto on his own.

and venom is so over powered anyway that any means spidey has of defeating him will just be so bad and uneasy to swallow, and you know full well that when it comes to righting spidey's going to beat either one of them in the lamest way possible.

especially venom, his motivation is a personal one and i couldn't see anyone being that angry against one person, just completely obsessed with nothing else but ruining parkers life. What's worse is that he has all the tools to do so but he still manages to mess up, i mean literally he has ALL THE TOOLS, i mean surely they can't have a villain being that dumb.

In a movie with Venom as the only villain, I could totally see the marines getting invovled, with helicopters everywhere and everything.
Venom has weaknesses, and Spider-Man knows what they are, not to mention Venom would have an inner battle within himself. Remember Venom only wants to help innocents, he just has his own beliefs about Spider-Man. I totally think Venom should have a daughter and in the heat of the moment we get a "Daddy don't" moment.

I think that Spider-Man could easily wipe the floor with Magneto in a one on one fight. He throws something metal at him, so what. With his spider-sense he will just move out of the way. Comparing the strength of super heroes is kind of like Rock paper scissors most of the time, but with cetain exceptions of course.

David33
02-07-2006, 04:18 PM
/\lame comparison

i mean Electro is all electricity. he eats sleeps sh**s electricity

Dr. Doom can transfer psionically his conciousness

he practices sorcery abilities that allow to blast mystical energy as well as protective shields ties up enemies with energy bands and creates portals to other planes.

oh yeah Electro and Dr. Doom are sooooooooooooo alike

i hate when people try to compare Marvel characters with others just for the sake of what they've already saw on the silver screen lame lame lame

I hate when people post idiotic posts without reading properly first..:rolleyes: .

Yes,Doom practices sorcery abilities,but THATS THE DOOM OF THE COMICS,NOT THE DOOM WE ALL SAW IN THE FF MOVIE,WHICH WAS JUST A LAME ELECTRO VERSION.

ElectroFlare
02-07-2006, 08:14 PM
I think that Spider-Man could easily wipe the floor with Magneto in a one on one fight. He throws something metal at him, so what. With his spider-sense he will just move out of the way. Comparing the strength of super heroes is kind of like Rock paper scissors most of the time, but with cetain exceptions of course.

Or Magneto just puts insane amounts of pressure on Spider-man's wrists, using his web shooters.

Spider-man's spider-sense isn't totally unbeatable anyway...haven't people without augmented speed hit him before? (likes of Daredevil and Wolverine) I'm sure Mags can throw metal pretty fast...

As to the thread topic, I'd prefer to see a real electro...powerful one...

Spider-Bite
02-07-2006, 09:02 PM
Or Magneto just puts insane amounts of pressure on Spider-man's wrists, using his web shooters.

Spider-man's spider-sense isn't totally unbeatable anyway...haven't people without augmented speed hit him before? (likes of Daredevil and Wolverine) I'm sure Mags can throw metal pretty fast...

As to the thread topic, I'd prefer to see a real electro...powerful one...

well yeah but comic book and movies always do things out of continuity for the sake of entertainment. Aunt May isn't really capable of catching a gargoyule with her cane while falling that fast. And MJ doesn't really have the super strength to grab onto that buoyi while falling from such a high height either. In reality her shoulder would have dislocated and she would have fallen in the water.
In reality Wolverine and DareDevil would not be capable of hitting somebody with superspeed, and a spidersense. That's like saying Jet Lie could take SuperMan or the Incredible Hulk.

I think his webshooters are made out of a soft flexible plastic. They would actually have to be in order to avoid breaking themselves or breaking his wrist.

Spencer9
02-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Venom should have his own movie, not sharing it with Sandman and Harry (possibly). I say Electro mainly for that reason.

chaseter
02-07-2006, 09:13 PM
Topher is more likely to play Electro...he has a thin,wirey frame. I don't see Topher getting buff and keeping his job with That 70s show(a buff Topher in that show would be weird). Venom is good and all but he cannot be thrown in as a side villian. THC is deffinately Sandman and Harry could be HobGoblin/GG2. They are not going to throw 4 bad guys at Spider-Man...2 hours isnt enough to hold them all. Plus Dr. Connors still has the chance of becoming the Lizard??? No Venom for a while please, symbiotes and aliens are too much for this franchise.

Spencer9
02-07-2006, 09:24 PM
Topher ain't on That 70's Show anymore... that dumbass replaced him. Lizard will not be in this movie. Sandman is, Haryr probably is, and i say Electro. I really do not think they will make the mistake of putting Venom in a movie with 2 other bad guys

chaseter
02-07-2006, 09:39 PM
What bout Topher not being on 70s show and replaced him?

November Rain
02-08-2006, 04:39 AM
In a movie with Venom as the only villain, I could totally see the marines getting invovled, with helicopters everywhere and everything.
Venom has weaknesses, and Spider-Man knows what they are, not to mention Venom would have an inner battle within himself. Remember Venom only wants to help innocents, he just has his own beliefs about Spider-Man. I totally think Venom should have a daughter and in the heat of the moment we get a "Daddy don't" moment.

I think that Spider-Man could easily wipe the floor with Magneto in a one on one fight. He throws something metal at him, so what. With his spider-sense he will just move out of the way. Comparing the strength of super heroes is kind of like Rock paper scissors most of the time, but with cetain exceptions of course.perhaps but i don't see venom being anymore dangerous than doc ock which they made no attempt to find and capture in the last film, same with green goblin in the first, police and military input and involvement seems to be left at a minimum.

venom's abilities in short term overwhelm his very few weaknesses and his sucess rate in the comics is just dire. I'm also not sure if i'm ready to have another tender misunderstood villain in the mist, i think it's just wrong, just have a proper villain, someone you love to hate, the cliche has been overdone in recent years. There are very few comic baddies which are just plain bad rather than doing it for a greater cause etc...i'm not sure if i'd enjoy seeing a 'daddy' moment.

as for spidey against magneto, considering he's one of the most dangerous men on the planet, spidey should go down pretty hard but spidey's always has a tendency to punch well over his own weight and get into scraps he should have no right winning and coming out pretty unphased. such is life with popular characters

craigaat
02-08-2006, 05:24 AM
I don't want either of those to be the main villain for SM3. Not Electro because I don't think his character could support an entire movie, not Venom because I want him to have his own story.

ElectroFlare
02-08-2006, 09:03 AM
I think his webshooters are made out of a soft flexible plastic. They would actually have to be in order to avoid breaking themselves or breaking his wrist.

I could be wrong, but I thought on Marvel's online directory it said that his web shooters are made of steel...

And I agree with you that Wolverine and Daredevil should not be able to lay a finger on Spider-man...

boywonder13
02-08-2006, 09:06 AM
I think Raimi has wanted to use Electro since Spider-man 1. and now it is his chance!

HughJackFan420
02-08-2006, 09:15 AM
/\i think the same thing

Quentin Beck
02-08-2006, 01:30 PM
Electro.

Because he's the only villain physically suitable for Grace,and one of the few cool villains who has the remotest chance of his story not being rushed or butchered,like Venom's would be if it was crammed in.Exactly what I think :up:

Marine
02-08-2006, 02:02 PM
venom. why? because grace is built like ultimate eddie brock, raimi likes the science gone bad thing, and ultimate venoms origin is tied into peter.

Silver Sable
02-08-2006, 02:13 PM
I think Raimi has wanted to use Electro since Spider-man 1. and now it is his chance!

Actually, he waned to use both GG and Doc Ock but had to use only 1 b/c it would had taken a long time to film or something

Cmill216
02-08-2006, 02:47 PM
Actually, he waned to use both GG and Doc Ock but had to use only 1 b/c it would had taken a long time to film or something

Yeah, I am pretty sure that it was Raimi's decision to have the GG be the first and only villain in SM1. He wanted to have a villain like Norman because of his connection (surrogate fatherly) to Peter.

tonytr1687
02-08-2006, 02:49 PM
Actually, he waned to use both GG and Doc Ock but had to use only 1 b/c it would had taken a long time to film or something

No it was b/c he didnt wanna cram too much into SM1. Same with SM2 when originally they were gonna have both Ock and Lizard and/or Black Cat. He specifically pointed out that he wanted to do justice to Peter and MJ and Harry and having too many villians would undermine that. This is why I find these Venom rumors odd since it wouldnt be like Raimi to try and cram such a background-heavy villian along with Sandman and Harry's story.

Silver Sable
02-08-2006, 03:00 PM
No it was b/c he didnt wanna cram too much into SM1.

Sorry that's what I meant

Spencer9
02-08-2006, 03:59 PM
The only reason he would if is the franchise is going to end, and/or he is leaving. See look at our villain if Venom is in it.
Venom - Fan's Pick
Green Goblin 2 - Storyline
Sandman - His Favorite

It really makes sense, but he will screw it up in my opinion

Americommando
02-08-2006, 04:59 PM
As a long time visitor and first time poster, I may be rushing in where angels fear to tread...but I felt compelled to clear my throat and "ahem" speak up for once. Bare with me as I have a couple of points. I have seen many posts across many threads comparing this franchise and others to the likes of Bond or Star Wars and Star Trek...all of which have enjoyed many, many sequels. Comparing box office in today's dollars this franchise would seem to have the legs for the additional sequels that are rumored. Now, as someone "in the entertainment industry," (and despite the many rebukes of the suggestion) I am still not convinced that there isn't a fourth in the works right now. Perhaps not a complete film...but at the very least significant portions...maybe in the same fashion that Donner put segments of Superman II in the can while working on the first film. For one thing...even if Raimi is making a massive epic, the time frame is big enough for creation of two - maybe two and half movies - the lead time on the flick is huge. That says something. Secondly, whether or not Raimi is putting two or one and a half movies in the can...money - BIG money - comes into play. There are many suits that pull many strings...but all are pulling toward the bottom line. Big villain equals big bucks to them. Also in the dollar column...the more of these flicks that are made and the more revenue they create...the more the stars salaries become inflated (and the director's as well). Venom's screen debut may come about as a means to several ends...characters (big salaried actors) departing and others (portrayed by lesser known i.e. 'cheaper' actors) appearing. With some 'creative' Hollywood writing...borrowing from one storyline while creating a totally new one (a patchwork almost unrecognizable to comic fans) it is possible to 're-invent' the franchise in order to generate additional revenue from future features that star an almost entirely new cast. Verbose...but I've been thinking about all this for some time. Okay...so that's my seven hundred and two cents.

tonytr1687
02-08-2006, 06:29 PM
The only reason he would if is the franchise is going to end, and/or he is leaving. See look at our villain if Venom is in it.
Venom - Fan's Pick
Green Goblin 2 - Storyline
Sandman - His Favorite

It really makes sense, but he will screw it up in my opinion

You're talking about Raimi right? Well if he's just putting Venom in b/c fans like him then why doesnt he just let some other director (one who actually likes the character) come in on SM4 and do it.

Spencer9
02-08-2006, 08:33 PM
You're talking about Raimi right? Well if he's just putting Venom in b/c fans like him then why doesnt he just let some other director (one who actually likes the character) come in on SM4 and do it.

I was just saying I think that may be why if we get those 3. I mean if you think about it it makes sense. And he isn't just going to say hey here take my job to someone. He will be done after this I am sure.

spideyboy_1111
02-08-2006, 09:09 PM
electro.. plain and simple.. topher would be the perfect electro

drmick
02-12-2006, 05:18 AM
It's funny how this poll reveals Electro to be the most popular choice for Grace, and yet look at how many Electro threads there are in comparison to Venom/Brock ones.

What do you mean "What Electro threads?" :)

Red
02-12-2006, 06:20 AM
None

I want to see Hary take up the mantle of his father, but it seems Rami is going to wimp out.

Cinemaman
02-12-2006, 11:56 AM
Hmmm... so we will have 3 villains.

Sandman, Green Goblin II and Venom.

GGII will be the main villain as I think.
Venom will have big part too.
I don't think Sandman will have a lot of scenes, Raimi will use him as just villain for fighting.

Cmill216
02-12-2006, 01:23 PM
I don't think Sandman will have a lot of scenes, Raimi will use him as just villain for fighting.

They wouldn't bring in an Academy Award Nominee if that were the case.

Shadow_Knight
06-28-2006, 11:47 PM
I guess I would say Venom.

TheCardPlayer
06-28-2006, 11:59 PM
I guess I would say Venom.Well I guess that we don't have much choice now. Venom too! I think he's a bigger threat to Spidey then Electro. Both physically and mentally.