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Red X

02-08-2006, 12:41 PM

Watching it now, review up soon.

union_jak

02-08-2006, 01:01 PM

What can I say, I had hoped that the Justice League would appear, I mean, this being Justice League Unlimited. It was a great episode though. I don't know how you do spoilers and hide them, so I won't say any more.

darkdaz

02-08-2006, 01:07 PM

Cooooooooooooool

November Rain

02-08-2006, 01:23 PM

man, i was hoping for a review before i got home but never mind...

:(

i'll catch it tomorrow in the morning

union_jak

02-08-2006, 01:27 PM

I want to talk about this episode, but I don't know how you can hide spoilers! :O So therefore I will be silent!

Tamanon

02-08-2006, 01:29 PM

Just put {spoiler} and {/spoiler} around the words. Replace the {} with [] brackets.:)

November Rain

02-08-2006, 01:30 PM

[spoiler] put what ever you want to in here [/ spoiler]

take out the space between the / and the s in the second bracket and the writing will then get covered up.

Fuzzy Dude Fan

02-08-2006, 01:39 PM

I'm probably gonna be in the minority, but (apart from a few choice moments) this episode bored me, until about the last 10 minutes. It was just the villains fighting each other, changing sides, yadda yadda. I like fight scenes as much as the next person, but I think a lot of people will probably enjoy it. I was really surprised when Luthor killed Grodd. And when he used Tala like that. My DC knowledge is small, so I don't know who that dude speaking to Lex with the funky head piece was. It seemed important. I had a feeling that Darkseid was gonna come back, but the way it was done was really good. I am wondering how Luthor and them survived that explosion. Looks like a big beat-em-up team up next episode. From the previews, I didn't see Flash anywhere. Not that I want him to be the main attraction for this episode, but it's the last ever episode of JLU. If he doesn't at least appear with a speaking part, I'll be really disappointed.

I can't believe Monday will be the last episode. So sad. I hope the episode is really good.

union_jak

02-08-2006, 01:50 PM

Thanks you guys! Don't read unless you want to know ALL that happens! So the entire episode was from the legion of Dooms perspective. It started with Lex, who sounded different to me, as he continued his obsession with Brainaic.
Tala looked into the thing and shared the vision with Lex. They saw remnants of Brainiac in space, so Lex got everyone to build extra parts onto their base, which took off into space, piloted by the Toyman.

Tala decided to go back to Grodd, and they led a rebellion against Lex. Cue a very long battle between the villians until Lex won and sent Grodd to his death (by opening the airlock). He then used Tala to try and get Brainiac back and some Godlike man appeared. he warned him of their destruction and before you know it, HE was back. Yes, Darkseid. He thanked Lex for resurrecting him, and appeared to wipe them all out as the spacebase exploded.

We then go to Darkseids homeworld, I forget the name, and there is a big battle between rival warlords. It pauses when Darkseid comes back and says he wants to destroy Superman and Earth. Before that, he will deal with the planet they agreed to a truce with, I also forget the name.

It ended with the JLU Earth-base, and the Legion led by Lex asking for the Justice Leagues help.

Overall it was a great episode, and it ended with what most people hoped. I might add that I did say I thought that the JL and LoD would team up, and I was right! The only downside was that there were no good guys today, but hey, we should see them in the final one!

storyteller

02-08-2006, 05:40 PM

We still dont have confirmation on the shows future. Not like the show hasnt been in this boat every season.

Red X

02-08-2006, 05:48 PM

OH MY FREAKING GOD! DARKSEID!!!!

IronLion

02-08-2006, 05:55 PM

i missed it today, damn, and the spoilers doesnt work so editing before someone sees it

*second edit*

i cant wait to see darkseid again. i have a feeling the team up will be more than jlu and lod. i think more heroes and villains (embargo) will be shown

Binker

02-08-2006, 09:37 PM

REVIEW:
This is it! The two part finale, part one. I...umm...we have a problem. I'm afraid I'll have to spoil th whole episode. Reason: theres too much good things here that if I don't say them, you'll probably say this episode was disappointing. Which it wasn't. But if I did spoil, you probably won't feel excited once it airs on Cartoon Network. What to do....what to do....what to do...

THIS IS SPOILER FILLED.

I'LL TRY TO LIMIT IT BUT YOU WILL BE SPOILED.

IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, GET OUT!!!!!!!

OTHERWISE, YOU ARE HERE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Alright? Let's go....

Luthor has been trying with no luck getting the last Brainiac fragment to open. Finally Tala shows Luthor with her powers where it came from: the space fortress Brainiac built and as destroyed in the JL 2-part episode "Twlight". Luthor has the whole supervillain chain make the HQ of theirs go into space with most of the villians turning against Luthor. Grodd is freed from Tala and fights Luthor, so does half of the whoel Legion goign against the other half.

By sending Grodd into space (so...dead for good), Luthor is the victor. They arive at their destination and collect all the Brainiac fragments. Tala is used to bring back Brainiac with her life at stake, all by Lex. Then he appears, not Brainiac, but Darkseid. He gives thanks and destroys the Legion headquarters.

Back at his home planet, Darkseid ends the civil war that staretd when he died. On Earth, Luthor and those who survived go to the JLU with Luthor saying "WE have a little problem."

...

SPOILERS END HERE

...

Now, we're getting started. As the first part out fromt he two parter ends, the ultimate battle between good and evil begins. I knew, as many would, that the word "SHOCKED!" was going to haoppen in this episode no amtter what. Luthor, the fight between Legion who support Luthor and Legion who support Grodd, and finally motherload: Darkseid's return and the Legion and JLU's team-up of sorts.

The animation was top noch, so was the music. Everyone acted perfectly. Despite their appearence which was only half a minute, this was an all out Legion only episode. It had to be to get the gfinale ball started.
I can't talk more about this since you all know, IF YOU WANTED TOO.

RATING: 9.5/10

Up next:

The Finale....All bets are off, who will survive?

Inner City Blue

02-08-2006, 11:20 PM

Why not just use spoiler tags?

This was a great episode...

Wow, what an episode, especially watching Luthor jettison Grodd into space, there was absolutely no way he'd survive that. This show pulls no punches when it comes to the deaths of characters, it will do it and as animation is maturing, we're seeing directors take more liberties in killing people.

Darkseid was obvious, but his return was done so well. This show has a uncanny ability to write seasons together seamlessly while still pulling in old plot points. Much of the events in the second season has laid a framework that provide great story arcs for the third and second season.

I still don't know how the Legion survived, but I'm guessing Luthor or Tala saved them all.

However, I really do wish they could have had this as a three-episode season finale.

Storyteller2

02-09-2006, 12:15 AM

Beyond crispy. Hope to god this aint it for the show. We are so frekin close to totally closing every loose end(we know eventually brainiac will reconstitute himself either in supes lifetime or the distant future in a certian cousins era) from superman.

Inner City Blue

02-09-2006, 01:24 AM

So this is what a scared Lex Luthor looks like:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2858/lex3xy.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lex3xy.jpg)

Tamanon

02-09-2006, 02:12 AM

Wow, we might finally get the payoff we wanted from the end of Superman TAS now also. That would wrap up both BTAS and STAS. Great episode. Looks like the next one is going to be the ultimate knock-down drag-out fight!

Red X

02-09-2006, 03:35 AM

And from the end credits Supermans going to have a rematch.

Red X

02-09-2006, 05:19 AM

Is that Michael Ironside still voicing him?

November Rain

02-09-2006, 05:23 AM

supes is so blatantly going to die, it's untrue....

looks like everyone is going down hard....

although supes can't die cause he's in terry's timeline....

Red X

02-09-2006, 05:25 AM

Grodd: Why is my headquarters moving.

Great line

Red X

02-09-2006, 05:30 AM

By the way, word is the finale won't air for another 2 weeks at the least.

Dark Carnage

02-09-2006, 10:17 AM

Finale*

And I agree with that for the most part, it was boring. But the resurrection was great. And quite surprising, I'd forgotten all about him.

Movies205

02-09-2006, 01:30 PM

Great Episode, the beginning parts were a bit dull but mainly because it featured a ton of villians I've never seen before, and the animators should of had more Sinestro action. Anyway the Gorilla Grodd part was AWESOME! The toymaker fight was kick ass... Along with the ending except

Does anyone else think it'd of been awesome had LOD just died in the explosion at the end

Red X

02-09-2006, 02:37 PM

arty2

02-09-2006, 02:48 PM

OMG!!! Darkseid returns!!! F#%^ h*&# :eek: :eek: didn't see that coming somehow this needs to be a 3-parter, probably would have been had the creators known this was their last, who knows what the true ending to the Justice League would have been and how much of an impact those episodes would have been. :( FU!!!! Cartoon Network!!!!!!! :down :down

jaydawg

02-09-2006, 03:21 PM

All I have to say is.... how the hell are they gonna wrap this all up in one episode? Great episode, but am I the only one who feels like its just Supes villains plus a whole lot of C-listers? And Sinestro needs more respect. I wish Riddler and Scarecrow were there.....Anywho, I cant wait for monday. But how are they gonna wrap this up?

GyLocke

02-09-2006, 03:43 PM

Red X

02-09-2006, 04:54 PM

Binker

02-09-2006, 06:05 PM

Why isn't it airing on Monday?

guyverfanboy

02-10-2006, 03:39 AM

Its not airing Monday, we've got a 2 week wait at least.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :(

I have a question:
When Darkseid is resurrected, is he fused with Brainiac too, making him an uber Darkseid?

GyLocke

02-10-2006, 05:44 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :(

I have a question:
When Darkseid is resurrected, is he fused with Brainiac too, making him an uber Darkseid?

Not really fused on Lexiac level, but he is pretty pimped up by some shiny Brainiac tech.

04nbod

02-10-2006, 05:48 AM

how crap reli its a bunch of mutants runnin round in latex:mad: and sorri 2 tell u its not real :down

November Rain

02-10-2006, 05:53 AM

i have a feeling destroyer is going to be an hour long special on its own...

yenaled

02-10-2006, 07:18 AM

Metron :D

Red X

02-10-2006, 08:53 AM

i have a feeling destroyer is going to be an hour long special on its own...

Its not.

guyverfanboy

02-10-2006, 01:07 PM

Not really fused on Lexiac level, but he is pretty pimped up by some shiny Brainiac tech.

Oh, ok. That's kinda what I thought happened. :)

celldog

02-11-2006, 11:36 AM

I just want to know one thing.

Does Superman let Batman have an ear full after learning that Darkseid is still alive???? Batman snatched him away from getting his revenge, with that Boom Tube device. :batman:

Remember the ending to "Twilight"??
Superman: "You know something Bruce?? You're not always right." :mad: :supes:

celldog

02-11-2006, 11:37 AM

celldog

02-11-2006, 11:38 AM

celldog

02-11-2006, 11:46 AM

oops! :O

Red X

02-11-2006, 01:46 PM

Destroyer will air 18th Feb. Fingers crossed

Red X

02-11-2006, 01:47 PM

Destroyer will air 18th Feb. Fingers crossed.

AmazinUncleBen

02-11-2006, 02:11 PM

I hope Martian Manhunter returns, he's been missed.

BH/HHH

02-11-2006, 02:46 PM

I hope Superman is in it I find he's really neglected on this JLU show. I hope he and Darkseid have a battle to end all battles on JLU.

dcbmp

02-12-2006, 03:32 AM

????
Feb 18th ON Cartoon Network?
How's that possible?

Red X

02-12-2006, 05:16 AM

????
Feb 18th ON Cartoon Network?
How's that possible?

Toonami, in the Uk.

Avalanche

02-13-2006, 02:08 PM

I hope Martian Manhunter returns, he's been missed.
He has? He's the one character I've never been able to like. I'm not overly fond of John either, but at least he gets some moderately interesting stories.

Red X

02-13-2006, 02:56 PM

Well, will you look at that. According to Dwayne McDuffie, Spoiler:

Darkseid isn't fused with Brainiac-tech afterall

Guys, if it's from an official source and not speculation, it's spoiler!

guyverfanboy

02-14-2006, 01:10 AM

Destroyer will air 18th Feb. Fingers crossed.

Damn! What a long time to wait. :(

fceeviper

02-14-2006, 06:47 PM

Wow great battle and episode!!! 9/10

Darkseid...nUfFsAiD!!!

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9750/pdvd0003gi.jpg

:up:

Hush

02-14-2006, 09:34 PM

Well, will you look at that. According to Dwayne McDuffie, Spoiler:

Darkseid isn't fused with Brainiac-tech afterall

Guys, if it's from an official source and not speculation, it's spoiler!

The what is he??? Interesting. I trust you Red X but can i get a source on this???

BH/HHH

02-15-2006, 02:47 AM

So he's not merged with Brainiac you would think so looking at that.

Spidey-Bat

02-16-2006, 07:09 PM

That has to be the best twist in the DCAU ever. I loved Darkseid ever since that big 3-parter in STAS.

jaydawg

02-17-2006, 03:05 AM

Really? Cause it was damn obvious Darkseid was showing up the moment the LoD was announced. Hence why I'm somewhat disappointed. Theres just no conceivable way for them to wrap this all up with one episode.

Red X

02-17-2006, 04:30 AM

The what is he??? Interesting. I trust you Red X but can i get a source on this???

I haven't got a link but its from Dwayne McDuffie's forum.

Red X

02-17-2006, 02:22 PM

Update: Toonami received "Destroyer" today, and it will air tomorrow, Saturday, 18 February at 11:30 and 18:00.

Spider-Gamer

02-17-2006, 02:39 PM

Update: Toonami received "Destroyer" today, and it will air tomorrow, Saturday, 18 February at 11:30 and 18:00.
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up! :up:

Pksoze

02-26-2006, 12:51 PM

Love the way they've built up Luthor to be the ultimate badass (I'm already more powerfull then you *****es combined) till the end we meet Darksheid, who makes him look like a bald girlscout. Freaking Sinestro protecting him with his own body! Owning Grodd and her slut like that! And then in the end we see fear even at his eyes! Awsome stuff.

I have to say that was by far the greatest highlight of the season, seeing Luthor so confident and in control destroying Grodd, humbling Tala, and telling off Metron. Then he sees Darkseid and for a moment he feels pure fear. I always thought thats why he hated Supes so much, an evil Superman is Darkseid. And for all his cockiness he knows he's nothing compared to that.

Unleashed

03-19-2006, 09:59 PM

When's Brainiac coming back!!!!

Cryostar1177

03-20-2006, 08:40 AM

Spoilers if you have seen it yet....

You know what, I was quite happy with not seeing the JL for most of this episode....we needed something to wrap up the Secret Societ Grod/Luther thing...it was worth it....I wish there could have been more of the fight, and I didn't understand how Grod's forces stood up for so long, after all, Luther had Sinestro, Star Sapphire and Bizarro on this side. Those three are enough to wipe the floor with everyone that Grod had...but that seems logical.

Here are some captures, it's not a lot, but my space is limited, sorry: http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/

and a taste:

http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201028.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201050.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201051.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201059.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201062.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201083.JPG

"We've got a problem."

http://home.earthlink.net/~gmcgrath01/JLU/Justice%20League%20Unlimited%20-%205x12%20-%20Alive%20Part%201099.JPG

Red X

05-07-2006, 03:12 PM

Idiot.

Gamma Ray

05-07-2006, 03:49 PM

I saw the finale (part two of alive) and it was very good. It was good way to end the series, although it shouldn't have ended. :(

celldog

05-07-2006, 09:16 PM

Was that the Daily Planet being destroy :eek: ed????????????

Red X

05-08-2006, 06:21 AM

Use this thread.

Red X

05-08-2006, 06:30 AM

bumpy

Sawyer

05-08-2006, 08:09 AM

DARKSEID RETURNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Graet ep

Red X

05-08-2006, 08:22 AM

Anybody notice what happened to Talia?

Mister J

05-08-2006, 08:29 AM

I'm guessing she either died during the attempt to collect Brainiac or when Darkseid blew up the ship. She wasn't with the others at the end.

Red X

05-08-2006, 02:09 PM

Brutal death really.

Mister J

05-08-2006, 05:24 PM

'Tis a shame, really. All the girl wanted was a little Lex lovin' and she got obilterated for her trouble. At least Flash was "attentive" to her.

Red X

05-09-2006, 04:56 PM

She was quite likeable really.