Rank 'em: Season 5

[AgentPat]

We're about two thirds of the way through S5 right now and I was curious to see where people's heads were at with the season so far.

I'll update this post with new episode titles as they're announced, but here's where we stand as of 2/10/06:

Aired eps
01 Arrival
02 Mortal
03 Hidden
04 Aqua
05 Thirst
06 Exposed
07 Splinter
08 Solitude
09 Lexmas
10 Fanatic
11 Lockdown
12 Reckoning
13 Vengeance
14 Tomb

Unaired
15 Cyborg
16 Hypnotic
17 Void
18 Fragile
19 Mercy
20 Fade
21 Oracle
22 Vessel

Rank 'em! Ga head, you know you want to. :p



Here's my list:

Hidden
Vengeance
Mortal
Splinter
Arrival
Reckoning
Solitude
Aqua
Exposed
Thirst
Lexmas
Lockdown
Fanatic
Tomb


BTW, my criteria for that order is solely based on how apt I am to rewatch any particular episode, because if I can watch it repeatedly, there must be *something* about it that I really enjoy.

[avidreader]

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Vengeance
Arrival
Mortal
Solitude
Thirst
Lexmas
Fanatic
Lockdown
Tomb
Exposed
Aqua

[Kane]

Hmm I'd rather do it this way:

Season 5

1) Arrival 7/10

2) Mortal 8/10

3 Hidden 8/10

4) Aqua 6/10

5) Thirst 2/10

6) Exposed 6/10

7) Splinter 7/10

8) Solitude 8/10

9) Lexmas 6/10

10) Fanatic 5/10

11) Lockdown 7/10

12) Reckoning 7/10

13) Vengeance 5/10

14) Tomb 1/10

[user123456789]

03 Hidden
12 Reckoning
07 Splinter
08 Solitude
01 Arrival
04 Aqua
02 Mortal
09 Lexmas
13 Vengeance
11 Lockdown
10 Fanatic
06 Exposed
14 Tomb
05 Thirst

[The Incredible Hulk]

these are based on my ratings over at the Kingdom....

03 Hidden
01 Arrival
08 Solitude
09 Lexmas
12 Reckoning
07 Splinter
04 Aqua
11 Lockdown
06 Exposed
10 Fanatic
13 Vengeance
05 Thirst
14 Tomb

[Serene]

This is really hard for us old folks (;) to Squatlow) with our bad memories and all..

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Mortal
Lexmas
Arrival
Lockdown
Solitude
Vengeance
Thirst
Aqua
Fanatic
Exposed
Tomb

[boydston_14]

#1-512/Reckoning, followed by
#2-501/Arrival
#3-508/Solitude
#4-503/Hidden
#5-507/Splinter
#6-504/Aqua
#7-510/Fanatic
#8-502/Mortal
#9-511/Lockdown
#10-513/Vengeance
#11-505/Thirst
#12-514/Tomb

I still haven't seen Lexmas or Exposed yet, so the list could change after I see those, or when I see Cyborg on Thursday.

[mellyM]

Reckoning
Hidden
Splinter
Vengeance
Arrival
Mortal
Thirst
Solitude
Lockdown
Lexmas
Fanatic
Exposed
Aqua
Tomb

[Robin_Begins]

01 Arrival-10
02 Mortal-7
03 Hidden-9
04 Aqua-6
05 Thirst-0
06 Exposed-5
07 Splinter-10
08 Solitude-10
09 Lexmas-10
10 Fanatic-7
11 Lockdown-6
12 Reckoning-10
13 Vengeance-2
14 Tomb-0

[triplet]

Here's my list and the scores I gave each one in my reviews...

Interesting seeing it spelled out like this, btw. For example, I loathed most of Aqua but graded that on a curve because of Marsters most excellent introduction as Brainiac.

EDIT: changed my mind about some of these...

Hidden - 5
Reckoning - 5
Vengeance 4.5
Splinter 4.5
Arrival - 4.5
Solitude - 4.5
Mortal - 4
Lexmas - 4.5
Thirst - 4
Aqua - 4
Lockdown - 4
Fanatic - 4
Tomb - (grade still pending, but probably will be a 3.5)
Exposed - 3

[Red]

Arrival
Hidden
Reckoning
Solitude
Splinter
Vengeance
Lexmas
Mortal
Lockdown
Fanatic
Thirst
Tomb
Aqua
Exposed

[The Caped Knight]

1. Solitude 10/10 - BEST EPISODE (of Season 5) so far

2. Splinter 10/10

3. Exposed 10/10

4. Lexmas 10/10

5. Aqua 9/10

6. Arrival 8/10

7. Reckoning 7/10

8. Vengeance 6/10

9. Hidden 6/10

10. Lockdown 5/10

11. Fanatic 4/10

12. Tomb 4/10

13. Mortal 3/10

14. Thirst 1/10 - WORST EPISODE

[KalKai]

1) Arrival
2) Hidden
3) Reckoning
4) Splinter
5) Solitude
6) Vengeance
7) Mortal
8) Thirst
9) Aqua
10) Exposed
11) Lexmas
12) Lockdown
13) Fanatic
14) Tomb

[Red]

1. Solitude 10/10 - BEST EPISODE (of Season 5) so far

2. Splinter 10/10

3. Exposed 10/10

4. Lexmas 10/10

5. Aqua 9/10

6. Arrival 8/10

7. Reckoning 7/10

8. Vengeance 6/10

9. Hidden 6/10

10. Lockdown 5/10

11. Fanatic 4/10

12. Tomb 4/10

13. Mortal 3/10

14. Thirst 1/10 - WORST EPISODE

:confused: You mad?

[KalKai]

1. Solitude 10/10 - BEST EPISODE (of Season 5) so far

2. Splinter 10/10

3. Exposed 10/10

4. Lexmas 10/10

5. Aqua 9/10

6. Arrival 8/10

7. Reckoning 7/10

8. Vengeance 6/10

9. Hidden 6/10

10. Lockdown 5/10

11. Fanatic 4/10

12. Tomb 4/10

13. Mortal 3/10

14. Thirst 1/10 - WORST EPISODE

:confused: You mad?

:p

[The Caped Knight]

:confused: You mad?

Aqua , I gave it 9 for,

(1)Overall Good story

(2) like Sv's version Of Aquaman,

(3)First appearnce of James Marsters as Pros. Milton Fine / Brainiac,

(4)The scene Where Lex captured Arthur trying to get infomation out him was (a great Lex Luthor moment.)

(5) I like the underwater fight between Arthur & Clark.

(6) Loved seeing Lois in The Red Bikini, then The Blue & yellow one.

(7){Not much Clana}

\8/ And I really enjoyed The ending, Lois & Clark Forshadowing.

[Red]

:confused: You mad?

:p

Thats my line.

[The Caped Knight]

:confused: You mad?

:p


Exposed

(1) Lois & Clark episode

(2) Lois Undercover as Stripper (The scene was hot & Funny)

(3) Lois once showing she not a A Damsel in Distress (kicking The diplomat ass, before getting tasered, and again while in The helcopther

(4) Lots of Forshadowing

(5) Tom Wopat & John Schneider (I'm a huge fan of The Dukes of Hazzard Tv series)

(6) Seeing Jonathan/John Schneider driving Dodge Charger / General Lee

(7) NO LANA LANG :D

\8/ The ending with Lois & Clark (more forshadowing Of their Future together :supes:


Lexmas

(1) Lana Luthor - (I loved KK, She gave an outstanding preformance. I found this version of Lana to be a beautiful peaceful angel, she was really happy,Kind & Sweet.
She was nothing like her pain in the ass, self centered teenager version.

(2) Lex Luthor - (We finally got to see Michael Rosenbaum in Lex, Which was just so damn funny. Lex driving a old beat up car, Lex trying to put the carseat in the car. Lex & The Christmas tree)

(3) The Christmas theme - I was happy for once Smallville had a Christmas theme.

(4) Lionel Luthor - John Glover preformance both in Lex's dream & in The hospital scenes were awesome.

(5) Clark as Santa that was Funny - remind's me of a Lois & Clark Christmas episode.

(6) Clark showing The real Santa, that Christmas is still meaning full and he shouldn't give up.

[AgentPat]

I gave one point for each level, so the ep at the bottom of everybody's list got one point, while the ep at the top got 14. (There have been 14 episodes so far.)

Here are the numbers:

01 Arrival 10 10 10 9 10 10 14 9 14 9 11 14 11 = 141
02 Mortal 12 9 8 11 9 8 7 2 8 11 12 8 10 = 115
03 Hidden 14 14 14 14 13 14 13 6 13 14 13 12 14 = 168
04 Aqua 7 1 9 4 2 5 2 10 6 6 7 3 4 = 66
05 Thirst 5 7 1 5 8 6 4 1 7 2 3 4 8 = 61
06 Exposed 6 2 3 2 3 1 1 12 5 5 4 7 5 = 56
07 Splinter 11 12 12 12 12 11 10 13 11 12 5 11 13 = 145
08 Solitude 8 8 11 7 7 9 11 14 10 13 14 9 6 = 127
09 Lexmas 4 6 7 10 5 7 8 11 4 7 10 10 7 = 96
10 Fanatic 2 5 4 3 4 3 5 4 2 4 1 5 2 = 44
11 Lockdown 3 4 5 8 6 4 6 5 3 8 6 6 3 = 67
12 Reckoning 9 13 13 13 14 13 12 8 12 10 9 1 12 = 139
13 Vengeance 13 11 6 6 11 12 9 7 9 3 8 13 9 = 117
14 Tomb 1 3 2 1 1 2 3 3 1 1 2 2 1 = 23

User ratings are listed in posting order and taken from the lists posted by AgentPat, avidreader, boyscouT, Serene, mellyM, triplet, Red X, Kal-El 8, KalKai, Crisis Superman, Brainiac 8, vyperman7 and rumpuso.

I couldn't factor in the following users because:

Hulk: incomplete list (Mortal)
boydston_14: incomplete list (Lexmas & Exposed)
Robin_Begins: not in order of preference
superboy13_bt: not in order of preference

(Just a reminder, it doesn't matter what criteria you chose to rank the eps, but the lists need to be complete and in ORDER of preference if you'd like your numbers factored into the big picture. Giving them a 2/10, or 10/10 doesn't help if more than one episode shares the same rating on the same list.)

Okay, so here are the results:

01 Hidden 168
02 Splinter 145
03 Arrival 141
04 Reckoning 139
05 Solitude 127
06 Vengeance 117
07 Mortal 115
08 Lexmas 96
09 Lockdown 67
10 Aqua 66
11 Thirst 61
12 Exposed 56
13 Fanatic 44
14 Tomb 23


Very interesting! A lot can be deduced from this list, I think. :)


(Edited to update numbers)

[Serene]

Really interesting stats, Pat!

I hope more people add to the list.. I find this fascinating.

[Kane]

01 Hidden 115
02 Reckoning 107
03 Splinter 104
04 Arrival 96
05 Solitude 85
06 Vengeance 84
07 Mortal 74
08 Lexmas 62
09 Aqua 46
10 Lockdown 44 (tie)
10 Thirst 44 (tie)
11 Exposed 35
12 Fanatic 32
13 Tomb 17


It is actually interesting though Reckoning should be a lower and Mortal should be higher...and Vengeance way lower. Anyways Ill rate them in my order then, downward spiraling from good to dreadful:

Hidden
Solitude
Splinter
Mortal
Reckoning
Arrival
Lockdown
Lexmas
Aqua
Exposed
Fanatic
Vengeance
Thirst
Tomb

And I followed the Agent's method of listing them in the order that Id actually prefer to watch them over in (the eps Id watch over again at the top and the ones I never want to see again at the bottom.)

[Red]

Great idea Pat, glad to see Hidden's in the lead.

[Brainiac 8]

Solitude
Hidden
Mortal
Arrival
Lexmas
Reakoning
Vengeance
Aqua
Lockdown
Splinter
Exposed
Thirst
Tomb
Fanatic

[AgentPat]

After adding Crisis and Brainiac's numbers to the list, Mortal has pulled ahead of Vengeance by two points, and we no longer have a tie between Lockdown and Thirst (the former took the lead over the latter). Hidden is still #1, and WAY out front. It's followed by Reckoning, Splinter, Arrival and Solitude, all of which are separated by no more than five points respectfully. Vengeance and Lexmas mark the halfway points. Episodes below that mark have less than half the amount of points as the corresponding episodes in placement above them.

Interesting "race" we have here. :D

[mellyM]

Its kind of hard to really rank, because there are more than I few I pretty much like equally, its been a good season:)

[Serene]

Its kind of hard to really rank, because there are more than I few I pretty much like equally, its been a good season:)
I agree, it is difficult. There are a few eps that I may not have loved the "A" story of, but individual scenes in them earn brownie points.

It's been a great season..

[AgentPat]

Its kind of hard to really rank, because there are more than I few I pretty much like equally, its been a good season:)Oh, I had a difficult time too. But episodes that are equally favored would only be separated by one point per each person voting, so it wouldn't throw the numbers off that much. At this point, somebody could come on and put Hidden at the absolute bottom of their list and Reckoning at the top and the respective placement between eps would still remain the same. We'd have to have some wildly different opinions on favorite episodes to change the big picture at this point. That said, I probably won't keep up with editing the list because it's freakin' time consuming LOL. I only did it to get an overall snap shot. When the season ends, I'll bump the thread and see how opinions have changed with the inclusion of the last third of the season.

And PS: Can this board be ANY more slow? Did the Hype change servers or something within the last month or so? Anybody know? It used to be one of the most reliable message boards on the Net, but now it's excruciatingly slow. *sigh*

[Brainiac 8]

I agree, it is difficult. There are a few eps that I may not have loved the "A" story of, but individual scenes in them earn brownie points.

It's been a great season..


So far, it's my favorite season next to the third. The jury is still out as to whether it will stay that way. I mean, I REALLY loved the third season.

But that shows opinon differences, my wife's favorite season so far is the first. And I know a few people who are just hating this season. Whatcha gonna do?:confused: :O

Overall, all the seasons have had their strengths and weaknesses.:)

[vyperman7]

Arrival - 10/10 ( My second favorite episode of the whole show. Loved it)
Vengeance - 10/10 (One of the best episodes they have ever done. Only second to Arrival this season. Totally made up for the mess that was Reckoning)
Hidden - 9.5/10 (Lion-El/Clark in the FOS, missile save, and a lot of suspense)
Splinter - 9.5/10 (TW's acting with the paranoia was awesome, and I just the whole episode was well done)
Lexmas - 9/10 (A fantastic Lex episode. One of my favorite Lex centric after Shattred, Memoria, and Prodigal)
Solitude - 9/10 (Great episode, but I was really dissapointed with the fight between Brainiac and Clark. Way too short)
Mortal - 9/10 (Great Chlark moments, Clex fight, and I liked the development for Clark)
Exposed - 9/10 (Great Clois, awesome effects on the hellicopter grab, and the Duke reunion)
Lockdown - 8.5/10 (Awesome effects on the Lana save and good continuity with the events in Arrival)
Fanatic - 8/10 (Pretty good suspense, and nice effects on the save with JK at the rally)
Thirst - 8/10 (Chloe/DP, awesome Lex/Fine interaction, and much better than I thought it would be overall)
Aqua - 7/10 (Very dissapointing. Should have been a lot better)
Tomb - 5/10 (I gave it a 5 because of AM's acting and the continuity that the ending had with S4. But the episode sucked and was pretty pointless overall)
Reckoning - 3/10 (One of my least favorite eps ever. The most dissapointed I have ever been after an episode)

[avidreader]

Oh, I had a difficult time too. But episodes that are equally favored would only be separated by one point per each person voting, so it wouldn't throw the numbers off that much. At this point, somebody could come on and put Hidden at the absolute bottom of their list and Reckoning at the top and the respective placement between eps would still remain the same. We'd have to have some wildly different opinions on favorite episodes to change the big picture at this point. That said, I probably won't keep up with editing the list because it's freakin' time consuming LOL. I only did it to get an overall snap shot. When the season ends, I'll bump the thread and see how opinions have changed with the inclusion of the last third of the season.

And PS: Can this board be ANY more slow? Did the Hype change servers or something within the last month or so? Anybody know? It used to be one of the most reliable message boards on the Net, but now it's excruciatingly slow. *sigh*

I think we should keep this up, I think its a great idea and its fun to read as well.

If you need help tallying up scores and whatnot I'm happy to help you. It would be good to update after this week's episode before we go on the hiatus, and then update again before the last 3 episodes.

I also had trouble ranking some of the middle order as I kind of have the same regard for all of the eps.

This season has been phenomenal. :up:

[AgentPat]

I think we should keep this up, I think its a great idea and its fun to read as well.

If you need help tallying up scores and whatnot I'm happy to help you. It would be good to update after this week's episode before we go on the hiatus, and then update again before the last 3 episodes...Okay, I'll take ya up on that. Problem is, when a new episode is added, everybody will have to update their lists so we can update the tally. Getting everybody to do that aint gonna be easy. :p

Tell ya what, lets wait till after the hiatus and start a new thread. It will be easier to tally from a brand new list, and the idea of ranking episodes won't be overkill. I think that would work best.

[avidreader]

Okay, I'll take ya up on that. Problem is, when a new episode is added, everybody will have to update their lists so we can update the tally. Getting everybody to do that aint gonna be easy. :p

Tell ya what, lets wait till after the hiatus and start a new thread. It will be easier to tally from a brand new list, and the idea of ranking episodes won't be overkill. I think that would work best.

Sounds good to me. :up:

[superboy13]

01 Arrival-10
02 Mortal-8
03 Hidden-9
04 Aqua-7
05 Thirst-2
06 Exposed-7
07 Splinter-10
08 Solitude-10
09 Lexmas-9
10 Fanatic-8
11 Lockdown-7
12 Reckoning-10
13 Vengeance-5

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Vengeance=10 to some people???????????????? Pass that pipe around please :eek:

[The Caped Knight]

Vengeance=10 to some people???????????????? Pass that pipe around please :eek:

Hey everyone has a right to give their own opinion, Their's no need to insult them .

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Hey everyone has a right to give their own opinion, Their's no need to insult them .


Why are you trolling my every response :confused:

I'm not insulting anyone. If I want to make a comment that a 10 seems ridiculous for that episode I have every right too :up:

[The Caped Knight]

Why are you trolling my every response :confused:
If I want to make a comment that a 10 seems ridiculous for that episode I have every right too :up:

I'm not trolling you.

Yes you do.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Here is my scoring btw

Season 5

1) Arrival 9/10 :up:

2) Mortal 6.5/10

3 Hidden 7/10

4) Aqua 6.5/10

5) Thirst 1/10

6) Exposed 5/10

7) Splinter 6/10

8) Solitude 9/10 :up:

9) Lexmas 8.5/10 :up:

10) Fanatic 2/10

11) Lockdown 6/10

12) Reckoning 7.5/10

13) Vengeance -8(as in infinity)/10

14) Tomb 1/10

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I'm not trolling you.

Yes you do.


Oh ok. It's cool then :up:

[The Caped Knight]

Here is my scoring btw

Season 5

1) Arrival 9/10 :up:

8) Solitude 9/10 :up:

9) Lexmas 8.5/10 :up:



If it's not too much to ask, I'll to hear your opinion on these three episode , Why you gave them either 9/10 or 8.5/10 & what was missing for it to get a 10 out of 10 for you .

[The Caped Knight]

Oh ok. It's cool then :up:

Good . :up: :up:

[vyperman7]

To me Vengenance was good enough to get a 10.

It kicked the crap out of Reckoning, which I felt was a horrible episode. I will explain why I feel this way. The whole show has been leading up to Lana learning the truth, yet the reveal was rushed and poorly handled. There was no mention from Clark that Krypton was destroyed which was responsible for the meteor shower that killed Lana's parents, there was not really much of a reaction from Lana, as I felt she was way too accepting, and there was no looking back on the past. I really wanted her to bring up the tornado in Vortex especially since the jump/flight and the tornado were two times Clark defied gravity. Not to mention that it was the first time Lana really started asking questions. Then there was Lex finding out about Clark and it not amounting to anything. In both Hug from S1 and Shattered from S3 we got hear his thoughts on it. All we got was a gasp. It just seemed like a wasted opportunity to me.

In the end Clark ultimately chose Lana over his father because he was told that nature would find a balance. So they could have at least let Lana walk away knowing the truth to make the death more meaningful. Why not tell Lana the truth, and use the knowledge of the accident to keep her safe? Lana being in danger from knowing was ALWAYS a risk, and he still told her the first time around. Clark also got off way too easily with Martha. Overall, the episode was just too rushed and would have been much better as a two episode story arc to fit in more things like fallout over Lana's initial death instead of just showing up at the FOS, the scene between JK and Clark in the FOS, Lex's thoughts on finding out about Clark, etc..

For being the big 100th episode that was supposed to change the course of the show as we know it, all that really changed was JK's death, which turned out to be for nothing. Everything else is back to square one.

Now Vengenance had me skeptical going in because of how terrible Reckoning was. But it turned out to be one of the best episodes they have done in my opinion. It felt like an old episode of Smallville to me. There were things that would make a great episode in my eyes. Lex vs Lionel, great Supes references, nice character development, and an ending that had an impact. Vengenance had all four. I just thought it was a really well done episode overall and everything worked for me, which is why I gave it a 10.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

If it's not too much to ask, I'll to hear your opinion on these three episode , Why you gave them either 9/10 or 8.5/10 & what was missing for it to get a 10 out of 10 for you .


If it's not too much to ask, I'll to hear your opinion on these three episode , Why you gave them either 9/10 or 8.5/10 & what was missing for it to get a 10 out of 10 for you .

10 is another way of saying "PERFECT"

I don't feel SV has had a perfect episode yet.

As for my opinions on these episodes...


Arrival-- This episode actually got me pretty hyped for the most part. What I didn't like was the use of the Kryptonian villains. I personally found them to be quite generic and didn't see that sense of intelligence that I would expect. I mean Clark has yet to realize his physical and mental capabilities that basically are an inherent part of himself. With that in mind I would have thought the villains would have been a better challenge. Also, why send them to the PZ so quick? Instead of rushing the episode along, they could have fleshed it out better into the next episode.

Solitude-- My complaint on this one? LOIS or Erica Durance aka LINO (Lois in name only)... Remember how Lex helped her out with her sister??????????? Where does she get off having such hostility towards him and out of nowhere??????????????????????? Other than that though, I thought it was a well written episode and I enjoyed the performances by everyone.

Lexmas-- The suicide Santa crap messed with a great episode :down

[AgentPat]

To me Vengenance was good enough to get a 10.

It kicked the crap out of Reckoning, which I felt was a horrible episode. I will explain why I feel this way. The whole show has been leading up to Lana learning the truth, yet the reveal was rushed and poorly handled. There was no mention from Clark that Krypton was destroyed which was responsible for the meteor shower that killed Lana's parents, there was not really much of a reaction from Lana, as I felt she was way too accepting, and there was no looking back on the past. I really wanted her to bring up the tornado in Vortex especially since the jump/flight and the tornado were two times Clark defied gravity. Not to mention that it was the first time Lana really started asking questions. Then there was Lex finding out about Clark and it not amounting to anything. In both Hug from S1 and Shattered from S3 we got hear his thoughts on it. All we got was a gasp. It just seemed like a wasted opportunity to me.

In the end Clark ultimately chose Lana over his father because he was told that nature would find a balance. So they could have at least let Lana walk away knowing the truth to make the death more meaningful. Why not tell Lana the truth, and use the knowledge of the accident to keep her safe? Lana being in danger from knowing was ALWAYS a risk, and he still told her the first time around. Clark also got off way too easily with Martha. Overall, the episode was just too rushed and would have been much better as a two episode story arc to fit in more things like fallout over Lana's initial death instead of just showing up at the FOS, the scene between JK and Clark in the FOS, Lex's thoughts on finding out about Clark, etc..

For being the big 100th episode that was supposed to change the course of the show as we know it, all that really changed was JK's death, which turned out to be for nothing. Everything else is back to square one.

Now Vengenance had me skeptical going in because of how terrible Reckoning was. But it turned out to be one of the best episodes they have done in my opinion. It felt like an old episode of Smallville to me. There were things that would make a great episode in my eyes. Lex vs Lionel, great Supes references, nice character development, and an ending that had an impact. Vengenance had all four. I just thought it was a really well done episode overall and everything worked for me, which is why I gave it a 10.
Gotta say, I agree with ya here. Good post. :up:

Hey Ryan, can you organize your ep list in order of preference verses rating each ep individually? I'll add your numbers to the tally. :)

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Gotta say, I agree with ya here. Good post. :up:

Hey Ryan, can you organize your ep list in order of preference verses rating each ep individually? I'll add your numbers to the tally. :)


You can add my numbers too as I watch the episodes just like everyone else :o

[vyperman7]

Gotta say, I agree with ya here. Good post. :up:

Hey Ryan, can you organize your ep list in order of preference verses rating each ep individually? I'll add your numbers to the tally. :)

No problem Pat.

I kept the number ratings, but I put the episodes in order from best to worst.

[The Caped Knight]

Arrival-- This episode actually got me pretty hyped for the most part. What I didn't like was the use of the Kryptonian villains. I personally found them to be quite generic and didn't see that sense of intelligence that I would expect. I mean Clark has yet to realize his physical and mental capabilities that basically are an inherent part of himself. With that in mind I would have thought the villains would have been a better challenge. Also, why send them to the PZ so quick? Instead of rushing the episode along, they could have fleshed it out better into the next episode.

I agree with that part 100 %

Solitude-- My complaint on this one? LOIS or Erica Durance aka LINO (Lois in name only)... Remember how Lex helped her out with her sister??????????? Where does she get off having such hostility towards him and out of nowhere??????????????????????? Other than that though, I thought it was a well written episode and I enjoyed the performances by everyone.

I disagree, Maybe if you read The Smallville Magazine # 12 you've have understand why Lois had so much hostility towards Lex.

After The event's of "Aqua" In the magazine their's a story that takes place after "Aqua" where Lois & Clark attend a LuthorCorp company picnic, Where a FOTW crashes the party seeking Revenge on Luthor .

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Lexmas-- The suicide Santa crap messed with a great episode :down

Again that's your opinion , I like the idea of Santa losing faith in Christmas & Future SUPERMAN shows him that even thought many have lost the True meaning of Christmas, Their are still some that know the true meaning of Christmas . And that It wouldn't be Chirstmas without Santa .

[vyperman7]

I really liked the Santa aspect of Lexmas. It emphasizes Clark giving up what he wanted (spending Christmas with Lana) for the sake of the greater good. Isn't that what Superman is all about?

It would have been cool if it were the real Santa for him to know about Clark and what he could do. I would have loved to see the discussion between the two of Clark's powers and that he has a bigger purpose in life.

[AgentPat]

No problem Pat.

I kept the number ratings, but I put the episodes in order from best to worst.Done. See post #19 for the tallies.

Hidden is still WAY out in front by 22 points, the widest gap between episodes in the top half of the list. Impressive. But Splinter and Arrival have now moved ahead of Reckoning respectively. Mortal has fallen behind Vengeance, and Lockdown has overtaken Aqua. The gap between Mortal and Lexmas now marks the halfway point, with everything from Mortal on up representing the top echelon of eps so far.

It's definitely going to be interesting to see how the numbers change when we reach the hiatus in a few weeks. :)

[rumpuso]

This is almost too hard for me to work out in my head. When I love an episode, I lump it at the top, but when I'm only mildly entertained, it just falls behind my favorites. I never rank them in my mind. But I'll take a stab at it so I can play along too.

1. Hidden
2. Splinter
3. Reckoning
4. Arrival
5. Mortal
6. Vengeance
7. Thirst
8. Lexmas
9. Solitude
10. Exposed
11. Aqua
12. Lockdown
13. Fanatic
14. Tomb

[AgentPat]

This is almost too hard for me to work out in my head. When I love an episode, I lump it at the top, but when I'm only mildly entertained, it just falls behind my favorites. I never rank them in my mind. But I'll take a stab at it so I can play along too.Done! Interesting that the respective order hasn't changed. We may be settling in with an approximate ranking of eps.

[NHawk19]

I have a hard time ranking individual episodes. Especially when the story transfers from one to another, because without the former I wouldnt fully understand the later.

The only think I will say is thus far season 5 is kicking seaons 4's butt.

[avidreader]

To me Vengenance was good enough to get a 10.

It kicked the crap out of Reckoning, which I felt was a horrible episode. I will explain why I feel this way. The whole show has been leading up to Lana learning the truth, yet the reveal was rushed and poorly handled. There was no mention from Clark that Krypton was destroyed which was responsible for the meteor shower that killed Lana's parents, there was not really much of a reaction from Lana, as I felt she was way too accepting, and there was no looking back on the past. I really wanted her to bring up the tornado in Vortex especially since the jump/flight and the tornado were two times Clark defied gravity. Not to mention that it was the first time Lana really started asking questions. Then there was Lex finding out about Clark and it not amounting to anything. In both Hug from S1 and Shattered from S3 we got hear his thoughts on it. All we got was a gasp. It just seemed like a wasted opportunity to me.

In the end Clark ultimately chose Lana over his father because he was told that nature would find a balance. So they could have at least let Lana walk away knowing the truth to make the death more meaningful. Why not tell Lana the truth, and use the knowledge of the accident to keep her safe? Lana being in danger from knowing was ALWAYS a risk, and he still told her the first time around. Clark also got off way too easily with Martha. Overall, the episode was just too rushed and would have been much better as a two episode story arc to fit in more things like fallout over Lana's initial death instead of just showing up at the FOS, the scene between JK and Clark in the FOS, Lex's thoughts on finding out about Clark, etc..

For being the big 100th episode that was supposed to change the course of the show as we know it, all that really changed was JK's death, which turned out to be for nothing. Everything else is back to square one.

Now Vengenance had me skeptical going in because of how terrible Reckoning was. But it turned out to be one of the best episodes they have done in my opinion. It felt like an old episode of Smallville to me. There were things that would make a great episode in my eyes. Lex vs Lionel, great Supes references, nice character development, and an ending that had an impact. Vengenance had all four. I just thought it was a really well done episode overall and everything worked for me, which is why I gave it a 10.

You make some points Ryan that are clearly what alot of fans think, however I dont think the episode was meant to be so cut and dry.

The reason why we didnt go into all the detail with Lana finding out about the secret is because that is going to be done at a later date when she does find out for real and gets to keep it. That teaser was just that a teaser into what the basics would be if Clark told Lana his secret.

I thought the gasp and the look that Lex gave after seeing Clark fly by was perfect. At first when Lex came out of the car it was all about Lana, then bang he sees Clark and that is all he is interested in. That look will now set up the plot for the Lexana. He may have feelings for Lana, but its all about Clark.

And as for the sacrificing his Dad for Lana, well that is such a lengthy conversation that has so many aspects to it, that I wouldnt even try to discuss it here. :)


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Interesting tallying of these episodes.

[Red]

Sorry to go off-topic here, but anyone know where i can get an animated gif of Braniac's enterance in Arrival?

[Jay1/2Dub]

01 Solitude
02 Arrival
03 Reckoning
04 Spliinter
05 Lexmas
06 Exposed
07 Lockdown
08 Aqua
09 Hidden
10 Fanatic
11 Vengeance
12 Mortal
13 Thirst
14 Tomb

[vyperman7]

You make some points Ryan that are clearly what alot of fans think, however I dont think the episode was meant to be so cut and dry.

The reason why we didnt go into all the detail with Lana finding out about the secret is because that is going to be done at a later date when she does find out for real and gets to keep it. That teaser was just that a teaser into what the basics would be if Clark told Lana his secret.

I thought the gasp and the look that Lex gave after seeing Clark fly by was perfect. At first when Lex came out of the car it was all about Lana, then bang he sees Clark and that is all he is interested in. That look will now set up the plot for the Lexana. He may have feelings for Lana, but its all about Clark.

And as for the sacrificing his Dad for Lana, well that is such a lengthy conversation that has so many aspects to it, that I wouldnt even try to discuss it here. :)


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Interesting tallying of these episodes.


In regards to the Clana reveal, that was my point though. Why put it off yet again? If there was anytime that Lana should finally know the truth it was the 100th episode. In order for the progress of the show to move forward, they need to give the fans resolution. I don't know about those who ship Clana, but I have been sick of the angst and endless back and forth since the beginning of S3. I loved the initial reaction of Lex with the gasp. But I was upset that we did not get more out of it. At least a "I knew it all along" or something along those lines. I just wanted Lex to say or do something.

Clark didn't know who would replace Lana. But he was told that nature would find a balance. So even though he didn't outright say that he was choosing Lana over his father. That is ultimately what happened because JK took Lana's place. To me, it made JK's death seem meaningless because nothing in the Clana relationship changed to warrant JK dying instead of Lana.

[avidreader]

Clark didn't know who would replace Lana. But he was told that nature would find a balance. So even though he didn't outright say that he was choosing Lana over his father. That is ultimately what happened because JK took Lana's place. To me, it made JK's death seem meaningless because nothing in the Clana relationship changed to warrant JK dying instead of Lana.

Well I guess its all about pacing, so stay tuned. I think something big is going to happen with regards to Lana. Dunno what, but think it will. She has to make a bigger impact than what she has done so far with Clark's journey.

[SuperDaniel]

After Reckoning, i`m done with Smallville. The worst episode ever where Clark chose Lana over Jonathan. Real hero, huh? :rolleyes:

I seriously can`t believe how you, supposed Supermna fans, love this episode...

Oh. And i didn`t mention Pa Kent bad filmed, unemotional death.

[triplet]

After Reckoning, i`m done with Smallville. The worst episode ever where Clark chose Lana over Jonathan. Real hero, huh? :rolleyes:

I seriously can`t believe how you, supposed Supermna fans, love this episode...

Oh. And i didn`t mention Pa Kent bad filmed, unemotional death.

He didn't choose Lana over his father, "Fate" had to have him pay a price, he kept protecting Lana so Fate found a way...

Martha even said to Clark "Could you have chosen between them if you'd had the chance?" It wasn't his fault.

He blames himself, but if there is any blame to lay it should be on Jor-El instead. He saved Clark's life which "unbalanced" things... The Universe needed to be righted.

So it wasn't Lana's life that Jonathan died to save, it was Clark's.

I'm not sure I totally buy the whole Universe needing to be balanced thing, but given a choice between Clark's life and Jonathan's I'd pick Clark.

His destiny isn't to die from a gunshot....

Jonathan's number was up anyway, eventually. His heart has been weak since the third season.

[SuperDaniel]

He didn't choose Lana over his father, "Fate" had to have him pay a price, he kept protecting Lana so Fate found a way...

Martha even said to Clark "Could you have chosen between them if you'd had the chance?" It wasn't his fault.

He blames himself, but if there is any blame to lay it should be on Jor-El instead. He saved Clark's life which "unbalanced" things... The Universe needed to be righted.

So it wasn't Lana's life that Jonathan died to save, it was Clark's.

I'm not sure I totally buy the whole Universe needing to be balanced thing, but given a choice between Clark's life and Jonathan's I'd pick Clark.

His destiny isn't to die from a gunshot....

Jonathan's number was up anyway, eventually. His heart has been weak since the third season.

Thats exactely where you`re wrong. Superman would never pick one. He would chose both. Clark knew that there was a balance. I`m sorry but i don`t buy your theory. Smalliville turned Clark into Spider-man, making him become a hero because of guilt. And this to me is unaceptable.

And i`m not going to mention the fact the Death itself was so badly filmed and unemotional at all or the fact they treated the audience like stupid people and things went back to square one with Lana not knowing his secred identity or even having a relationship with him. This episode destroyed what Superman stands for, in my opinion. Superman is not who he is because of guilt over his father death, period.

Do you wanna know what i feel? Read Neal Bailey`s Smallville reviews from Superman homepage.

[triplet]

Thats exactely where you`re wrong. Superman would never pick one. He would chose both. Clark knew that there was a balance. I`m sorry but i don`t buy your theory. Smalliville turned Clark into Spider-man, making him become a hero because of guilt. And this to me is unaceptable.

And i`m not going to mention the fact the Death itself was so badly filmed and unemotional at all or the fact they treated the audience like stupid people and things went back to square one with Lana not knowing his secred identity or even having a relationship with him. This episode destroyed what Superman stands for, in my opinion. Superman is not who he is because of guilt over his father death, period.

Well, I disagree... I was worried about that too when I heard about the death but Clark isn't feeling guilty now... not since Vengeance. He has now realized it wasn't really his fault.

He didn't choose, Fate did or the Universe or whatever.

He saved Lana, yes, but did that because he thought he could cheat and save her so no one would have to die because of him. He was wrong and so fate found his father instead.

In a way, it's similar to what happened to Clark in STM: he discovered even with how powerful he was that he couldn't save everyone.

THAT Clark's journey to the arctic so he could form the FOS was caused by his guilt over not being able to save his father... It's not that much different than what happened in Smallville, IMO.


Do you wanna know what i feel? Read Neal Bailey`s Smallville reviews from Superman homepage.

I'd rather not, thanks.

If you want to know what I think, you can read my reviews over on ksite.

[avidreader]

Do you wanna know what i feel? Read Neal Bailey`s Smallville reviews from Superman homepage.

I couldnt ever bring myself to read that guy's reviews, if that's what you could call them. No wonder you feel the way you do.

We had an episode after Reckoning which clearly showed that Clark was not going to become Superman out of guilt. He is going to become Superman because his dad brought him up with strong morals and to do the right thing.

You need to listen to the dialogue of an entire episode instead of picking it to pieces between the commercial breaks like Bailey does.

[SuperDaniel]

I disagree. In Superman the movie Its totally different. Clark, feeling that he couldn`t save everyone, wanted to do more for this world and went to the artic to know more about him and became Superman. In Smallville, Jor-el warned that there would be a balance of the unverse. To my mind, Superman doesn`t chose between two lives. He wouldn`t take that risk. Jonathan died because of him. Because he went back in time to save Lana. So yes it is his fault, even though he is not directly responsible, his actions lead to Jonathans death, so he is no hero to me.

"I'd rather not, thanks."

And this is very close minded of your part, in my opinon.

I read your review and i disagree with it. And him becoming Superman because of guilt is not the only sin they made with this character in this show. Superman not being a virgin and having sex with Lana is another.

The writes simply don`t understand Superman. And i`m not even metioning that this show has not character development at all.

[avidreader]

Perhaps you should move on then. :rolleyes:

[SuperDaniel]

I couldnt ever bring myself to read that guy's reviews, if that's what you could call them. No wonder you feel the way you do.

We had an episode after Reckoning which clearly showed that Clark was not going to become Superman out of guilt. He is going to become Superman because his dad brought him up with strong morals and to do the right thing.

You need to listen to the dialogue of an entire episode instead of picking it to pieces between the commercial breaks like Bailey does.

Yeah. I`ve seen it and it was a good move. But the death itself of Jonathan was worse than Anakin`s mom death in Star Wars episode II. And his father didn`t need to die for him to be like this. Reckoning was made just to get peoples ratings. THe time travel sucked, it felt like i was watching Final Destination 4....It was one of the worst episodes, in my opinon. Too bad for John Schneider, who he is a great actor...

[SuperDaniel]

Perhaps you should move on then. :rolleyes:

And i`m not being as childish as you are now. I`m just expressing my opinion.

[avidreader]

And i`m not being as childish as you are now. I`m just expressing my opinion.

You were the one that said you were done with Smallville.

After Reckoning, i`m done with Smallville.

I'm just agreeing with you. But its nice at my age to be thought of as childish. :)

[Serene]

The writes simply don`t understand Superman. And i`m not even metioning that this show has not character development at all.

Or maybe... they are just doing a different take on him!

Naah.. that would be silly, who would ever do that?

Oh, wait...

[triplet]

I disagree. In Superman the movie Its totally different. Clark, feeling that he couldn`t save everyone, wanted to do more for this world and went to the artic to know more about him and became Superman. In Smallville, Jor-el warned that there would be a balance of the unverse. To my mind, Superman doesn`t chose between two lives. He wouldn`t take that risk. Jonathan died because of him. Because he went back in time to save Lana. So yes it is his fault, even though he is not directly responsible, his actions lead to Jonathans death, so he is no hero to me.

Well, I disagree so I guess we'll have to leave it at that...



"I'd rather not, thanks."

And this is very close minded of your part, in my opinon.

Why? Because I don't like his reviews?

I don't have to read them if I don't like the way he writes.

I read your review and i disagree with it. And him becoming Superman because of guilt is not the only sin they made with this character in this show. Superman not being a virgin and having sex with Lana is another.

You don't have to like or agree with mine either, but just because you don't doesn't make you close minded... Puhleeze...

Arrogant much?

As for him no longer being a virgin has anything to do with him being Superman: I don't think that has anything to do with anything.

I don't know why people get so hung up on that. Just because he had sex with a woman he loves doesn't make him less of a hero than before, although telling you that is like yelling into the wind: it's a pointless excercise so whatever... you don't have to reply to that.

The writers simply don`t understand Superman. And i`m not even metioning that this show has not character development at all.

I don't think we're watching the same show... There's been tons of character development in this show, especially this season.

Whatever, I think maybe you should move on like avid suggested. This show is obviously not for you.

I'll go on enjoying the show and you can start watching Survivor guilt free.

[jas01724]

Down from one to fourteen ...

Splinter
Arrival
Vengeance
Reckoning
Hidden
Mortal
Solitude
Exposed
Lockdown
Tomb
Lexmas
Aqua
Fanatic
Thirst

[SuperDaniel]

I don't think we're watching the same show... There's been tons of character development in this show, especially this season.
.

Where is the character development?

1)Martha is going to tie with Lionel Luthor=BAD MOVE
2)Lana is going to be the reason Lex and Clark are going to be enemies= BAD MOVE
3)Lex loves Lana= BAD MOVE
4)Clark become Superman out of guilt = BAD MOVE
5)Lana and Clark aren`t together anymore and we were treated like idiots because she doesnt know the secret anymore =BAD MOVE

Listen, Reckoning felt to me like that frog-eationg clones arc of Lois & Clark. I love Lois and Clark and i hated that arc.

And your opinion isn`t going to change it.

All i feel is that Smallville isn`t as good as it is supposed to be.

[avidreader]

Most of what your quoting above Spider is assumption. You are just guessing that things are going to play out the way you have them visioned in your mind.

I say for anyone that is having trouble with this fate and destinty stuff, should watch episode 3.12 Hereafter (interesting that episode 12 was the first time that we see Jonathan have a problem with his heart) and episode 3.17 Legacy.

Both of those episodes deal with fate and destiny and deal directly with Clark and Jonathan.

[triplet]

Where is the character development?

1)Martha is going to tie with Lionel Luthor=BAD MOVE
2)Lana is going to be the reason Lex and Clark are going to be enemies= BAD MOVE
3)Lex loves Lana= BAD MOVE
4)Clark become Superman out of guilt = BAD MOVE
5)Lana and Clark aren`t together anymore and we were treated like idiots because she doesnt know the secret anymore =BAD MOVE

Listen, Reckoning felt to me like that frog-eationg clones arc of Lois & Clark. I love Lois and Clark and i hated that arc.

And your opinion isn`t going to change it.

All i feel is that Smallville isn`t as good as it is supposed to be.

Well, I think you are mistaking plot points you don't like for "lack of character development"... it ain't the same thing.

We're not talking the same language here.

Character development is a character changing over time, which has happened.

Clark is far more confident and sure of himself. Go back and watch the first season, he's changed a lot since the Pilot.

In fact he's actually changed a lot even since this season's premiere...

As for what you think is going to happen, I'm not so sure what you've spelled out above is where the show is headed....

[Superfan]

1. Reckoning
2. Lexmas
3. Hidden
4. Arrival
5. Cyborg
6. Solitude
7. Splinter
8. Fanatic
9. Mortal
10. Vengeance
11. Aqua
12. Lockdown
13. Thirst
14. Exposed
15. Tomb

[user123456789]

03 Hidden
12 Reckoning
07 Splinter
08 Solitude
01 Arrival
15 Cyborg
04 Aqua
02 Mortal
09 Lexmas
13 Vengeance
11 Lockdown
10 Fanatic
06 Exposed
14 Tomb
05 Thirst

[KalKai]

1) Arrival
2) Hidden
3) Reckoning
4) Splinter
5) Cyborg
6) Solitude
7) Vengeance
8) Mortal
9) Thirst
10) Aqua
11) Exposed
12) Lexmas
13) Lockdown
14) Fanatic
15) Tomb

[DarthSkywalker]

1) Hidden
2) Splinter
3) Solitude
4) Reckoning
5) Lexmas
6) Aqua
7) Vengeance
8) Cyborg
9) Mortal
10) Arrival
11) Thirst
12) Exposed
13) Lockdown
14) Fanatic
15) Tomb

[The Caped Knight]

Update

1. Solitude 10/10 BEST EPISODE (of Season 5) so far

2. Splinter 10/10

3. Exposed 10/10

4. Cyborg 10/10

5. Hidden 10/10

6. Lexmas 10/10

7. Arrival 9/10

8. Aqua 9/10

9. Vengeance 8/10

10. Reckoning 7/10

11. Lockdown 6/10

12. Fanatic 6/10

13. Mortal 5/10

14. Tomb 5/10

15. Thirst 1/10 - WORST EPISODE
_______

[M.O.Steel]

which one was hidden again?

[The Caped Knight]

which one was hidden again?

The WB's Official Description
CLARK IS SHOT! - Chloe is warned by Gabriel that he is going to set off a missile and obliterate all of Smallville. Still stripped of his super powers, Clark confronts Gabriel and ends up getting shot. In the hospital, Clark flatlines and his fate is left in Jor-El's hands. Meanwhile, Lex believes Lionel has the key to open the spaceship.
:supes:

[avidreader]

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Cyborg
Arrival
Vengeance
Mortal
Solitude
Thirst
Lexmas
Fanatic
Lockdown
Tomb
Exposed
Aqua

[Jay1/2Dub]

New list...

01 Solitude-10/10
02 Arrival-10/10
03 Cyborg-10/10
04 Reckoning-10/10
05 Splinter-10/10
06 Lexmas-9/10
07 Exposed-8/10
08 Lockdown-7/10
09 Aqua-7/10
10 Hidden-7/10
11 Fanatic-6/10
12 Vengeance-5/10
13 Mortal-5/10
14 Thirst-3/10
15 Tomb-1/10

[vyperman7]

Do we have to make a new list after each episode? Can't we just say the latest title, and where we would put it on our original list?

[user123456789]

Do we have to make a new list after each episode? Can't we just say the latest title, and where we would put it on our original list?

to each his own i guess

for me, it helps me see how ppl rank the episode in the context of all their other episode rankings.

[triplet]

Although I haven't finished my review yet, working nights is totally kicking my ass, I ranked Cyborg just behind Hidden for this season... (also changed some of my list around, Pat...)

Hidden - 5
Cyborg - 5
Reckoning - 5
Splinter 4.5
Arrival - 4.5
Vengeance 4.5
Solitude - 4.5
Mortal - 4
Lexmas - 4.5
Thirst - 4
Lockdown - 4
Aqua - 4
Fanatic - 4
Tomb - 3.5
Exposed - 3

[tonytr1687]

1.Hidden
2.Reckoning
3.Lexmas
4.Arrival
5.Splinter
6.Solitude
7.Lockdown
8.Mortal
9.Cyborg
10.Vengeance
11.Fanatic
12. Exposed
13. Aqua
14.Tomb
15.Thirst

[vyperman7]

to each his own i guess

for me, it helps me see how ppl rank the episode in the context of all their other episode rankings.

I just figured that since the other episodes had already been tallied, that it would be kind of pointless to list them again.

[rumpuso]

You ranked Cyborg above Splinter, Triplet?

[triplet]

You ranked Cyborg above Splinter, Triplet?

Yeah... I did.

[vyperman7]

Arrival - 10/10 ( My second favorite episode of the whole show. Loved it)
Vengeance - 10/10 (One of the best episodes they have ever done. Only second to Arrival this season. Totally made up for the mess that was Reckoning)
Hidden - 9.5/10 (Lion-El/Clark in the FOS, missile save, and a lot of suspense)
Splinter - 9.5/10 (TW's acting with the paranoia was awesome, and I just the whole episode was well done)
Lexmas - 9/10 (A fantastic Lex episode. One of my favorite Lex centric after Shattred, Memoria, and Prodigal)
Solitude - 9/10 (Great episode, but I was really dissapointed with the fight between Brainiac and Clark. Way too short)
Mortal - 9/10 (Great Chlark moments, Clex fight, and I liked the development for Clark)
Exposed - 9/10 (Great Clois, awesome effects on the hellicopter grab, and the Duke reunion)
Lockdown - 8.5/10 (Awesome effects on the Lana save and good continuity with the events in Arrival)
Cyborg - 8/10 (Amazing ending, Thompson was awesome as Victor, and loved evil Lex. Too much Clana though, and not enough action)
Fanatic - 8/10 (Pretty good suspense, and nice effects on the save with JK at the rally)
Thirst - 8/10 (Chloe/DP, awesome Lex/Fine interaction, and much better than I thought it would be overall)
Aqua - 7/10 (Very dissapointing. Should have been a lot better)
Tomb - 5/10 (I gave it a 5 because of AM's acting and the continuity that the ending had with S4. But the episode sucked and was pretty pointless overall)
Reckoning - 3/10 (One of my least favorite eps ever. The most dissapointed I have ever been after an episode)

[AgentPat]

Looks like I have some number crunching to do. I'll wait till a few more folks update their lists and do a new tally. This should be interesting. I think I might alter the order of my list just a wee bit too.

[LL2K2]

Let's see...

Excellent Episodes (5/5): Arrival, Hidden, Solitude, Cyborg

Above Average (4/5): Mortal, Exposed, Splinter, Lexmas

Good Episodes (3/5): Aqua, Fanatic, Lockdown, Reckoning, Tomb

Fair Episodes (2/5): Thirst, Vengeance

Yuck! (1/5): (none yet)

[user123456789]

I noticed some of you have Exposed high on your lists. Can some of ya'll elaborate as to why?

Personally, I didn't enjoy Exposed as much as I had hoped (and no, not because of the Lois stripping scene, lol). I'll definately have to re-watch it after I hear from some of you.

[The Caped Knight]

1. Solitude 10/10 -
[1] The story was SUPER
[2] Brainiac plan is revealed
[3] The Super battle in The FOS {Kal-EL} vs. {Brainiac} -(Way better than Nam-Ek & Aethyr vs. Clark in "Arrival" .)
[4] Forshadowing of Ace Reporter : Lois Lane Of The Daily Planet
[5] Lois already showing her dislike about Lex
[6] Great Clark & Martha scenes
[7] Great Jonathan & Martha moments
\8/ The short appearence Of Zod
[9] NO LANA, NO CLANA
[10] Chloe & Lois
[11] Chloe & Clark moments
[12] Lex & Lionel
[13] The ending between Clark & Martha , And Clark & Jonathan.

2. Splinter 10/10
[1] Tom's Badass Preformance as paranoid Clark
[2] Prof. Fine/Brainiac reveals he's from Krypton
[3] Silver Kryptonite
[4] Great Story
[5] Paranoid Clark vs. Lex Luthor
[6] Lex & Lionel
[7] Lex & Lana

3. Exposed 10/10
[1] A Lois & Clark centered Episode
[2] A lot Of Forshadowing of Lois & Clark as Investigative reporters for The Daily Planet
[3] Lois Lane undercover as a Stripper (The scene was Hot,sexy & damn right funny.
[4] Lois Lane kicking The diplomat Man ass
[5] The Helicopter Rescue (Homage to SUPERMAN : The Movie)
[7] Detective Maggie Sawyer Return
\8/ Clark for most of the episode was wearing a Suit, Not Fannel & Jeans .
[9] John (Bo) & Tom (Luke) reuited
[10] John & Tom ride in the Charger
[11] Chloe & Lois
[12] No Lana, NO Clana
[13] Lex & Clark
[14] The ending with Lois & Clark [More Forshadowing]

4. Cyborg 10/10
[1] Great Story
[2] Lee's preformance was awesome
[3] Forshadowing Of Teen Titans "Cyborg"
[4] Lex & Clark's relationship falling apart
[5] Evil Lex
[6] CGI was great
[7] The Jump between Clark & Victor Badass
\8/ "Your Secret is Safe with me "Kal-EL"
[9] Martha think about your Husband "Jonathan"
[10] Clark really Maturing
[11] The Begining of The End Of CLANA [as a romantic couple) :up: :up:

5. Hidden 10/10
[1] Clark powers Return
[2] Clark "Super Leap"
[3] Jor-EL inside of Lionel
[4] Lex Luthor


6. Lexmas 10/10
[1] Lex & Lana
[2] Lex a father
[3] Christmas in Smallville
[4] Lionel Luthor plays God with Lex's life
[5] It's a Wonderful life Lex !!! storyline with a twist
[6] Chloe & Clark
[7] Clark & Santa
\8/ Lex : I WANT IT ALL
[10] Lex confronts Lionel

7. Aqua 10/10
[1]Overall Good story
[2]like Sv's version Of Aquaman,Instead of The Cold Hearted Dc comics version.
[3]First appearnce of James Marsters as Pros. Milton Fine / Brainiac,
[4]The scene Where Lex captured Arthur trying to get infomation out him was (a great Lex Luthor moment.)
[5]I like the underwater fight between Arthur & Clark.
[6]Loved seeing Lois in The Red Bikini, then The Blue & yellow one.
[7]{Not much Clana}
\8/ And I really enjoyed The ending, Lois & Clark Forshadowing.

\8/. Arrival 9/10 - The only reason it didn't get 10/10 was The super fight we were suppose to see never happend. And instead we got a really Crappy Showdown between Clark vs. Nam-Ek & Aethyr

[1] Great Story
[2] Great follow up from "Commencement"
[3] THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE
[4] New opening credits & Erica Durance/Lois Lane is in it
[5] Jor-EL & Kal-El's training begins
[6] Clark tells Chloe "The Truth" The secret Revealed
[7] The Two evil Kryptonians Nam-Ek & Aethyr
\8/ Brainiac's "Arrival"
[9] Forshadowing Of Lois & Clark
[10] Lois & The Kents
[11] The First mention Of ZOD
[12] Lex Luthor tells Clark he's lying
[13] Lex founds Chloe in the UK hospital.

9. Vengeance 9/10 - Clana towards the end & Lionel & Martha ruined it for me
[1] Clark Anger over Jonathan's Death
[2] Martha dealing with Jonathan's death
[3] Andrea
[4] Chloe & Clark
[5] In the begining Clark pushing away Lana
[6] Clark about to kill snake but doesn't because he could hear Jonathan say not too.
[7] Forshadowing of Clark Kent / Mild Mannered Reporter for The Daily Planet & The World's Greatest SUPERHERO SUPERMAN :supes:
\8/ John Schneider saying Good bye to The fans
[9] Lionel & Lex

10. Reckoning 7/10
[1] The Turning point of The series
[2] Clark Kent
[3] Jonathan's Death
[4] Return To The FOS
[5] Forshadowing of SUPERMAN
[6] Lex & Lana
[7] Chloe & Clark
\8/ Clark Rescuing Lois
[9] Jonathan giving Lionel one good Knockout
[10] Lois & Lana talk
[11] The ENDING

11. Lockdown 6/10
[1] The scene of Clark saving Lana (Badass CGi)
[2] Lex & Lana
[3] Forshadowing of Lois & Clark
[4] Jonathan & Martha
[5] Lois & Jonathan
[6] Lex vs. Officer Gregory Flynn & Officer Harris
[7] Death Of Sheriff Adams
\8/ Chloe & Clark

12. Fanatic 6/10
[1] Lois Lane as Jonathan's campaign manager
[2] Lois & Clark forshadowing
[3] Lois kicking Samantha ass
[4] Clark : Faster than a speeding Bullet
[5] Lionel confonts Lex about how he's handling his campaign
[6] Jonathan speech written by Lois Lane
[7] Chloe & Clark
\8/ Martha tells Lois about her plan to help get money for Jonathan's campaign by actsepting Lionel Luthor's help .

13. Mortal 5/10
[1] Clark uses his brain To save his Family & friends without his super powers
[2] Clark vs. Lex [ smackdown]
[3] Chloe & Clark
[4] Lex uses The Kypto Freaks from BR to test Clark Kent .
[5] Clark & Jonathan help rebuilding smallville {A great Father son Moment}
[6] Chloe & Lex

14. Tomb 5/10
[1] Allison Mack outstanding Preformance
[2] Chloe & Clark
[3] Chloe uses a stun gun on Lex
[4] Lois & Clark
[5] Lex Luthor
[6] Chloe sees her Mom - Great ending

15. Thirst 1/10
[1] Brainiac/Prof. Milton Fine: James Marsters
[2] Clark as ZORRO
[3] The Daily Planet
[4] The Ending "Up Up & Away"

[Tornado]

1. 503 - Hidden
2. 512 - Reckoning
3. 501 - Arrival
4. 508 - Solitude
5. 515 - Cyborg
6. 510 - Fanatic
7. 509 - Lexmas
8. 513 - Vengeance
9. 507 - Splinter
10. 504 - Aqua
11. 502 - Mortal
12. 511 - Lockdown
13. 506 - Exposed
14. 505 - Thirst
15. 514 - Tomb

[avidreader]

I noticed some of you have Exposed high on your lists. Can some of ya'll elaborate as to why?

Personally, I didn't enjoy Exposed as much as I had hoped (and no, not because of the Lois stripping scene, lol). I'll definately have to re-watch it after I hear from some of you.

I didnt like Exposed either. I didnt hate it.

Exposed and Aqua are the two that I have watched the least.

[mellyM]

I noticed some of you have Exposed high on your lists. Can some of ya'll elaborate as to why?

Personally, I didn't enjoy Exposed as much as I had hoped (and no, not because of the Lois stripping scene, lol). I'll definately have to re-watch it after I hear from some of you.
I haven't watched Exposed much either, I mean theres certainly nothing glaringly wrong with it, its just not a stand out. But I liked it better than Aqua and Tomb--Tomb was the first one I actually deleted off my tivo right after it aired.
I see lots don't like Thirst, but I loved that ep, so funny, it was a nice break

[avidreader]

I haven't watched Exposed much either, I mean theres certainly nothing glaringly wrong with it, its just not a stand out. But I liked it better than Aqua and Tomb--Tomb was the first one I actually deleted off my tivo right after it aired.
I see lots don't like Thirst, but I loved that ep, so funny, it was a nice break

Thirst was one of my favourites too, Melly.:up: :)

As the seasons go on, it will be one that I can watch for entertainment purposes alone.

[mellyM]

Thirst was one of my favourites too, Melly.:up: :)

As the seasons go on, it will be one that I can watch for entertainment purposes alone.
Yep, it was a nice fun ep, kind of like Devoted was in Season 4, which I enjoyed as well.

[SuperDaniel]

THe episode with Chloe and the dead girl was the worst i`ve seen of Smallville. Nothing to do with Superman. The writers simple forgot the basis of this show. God, how can the producers of this show greenlight episodes like this???

[avidreader]

THe episode with Chloe and the dead girl was the worst i`ve seen of Smallville. Nothing to do with Superman. The writers simple forgot the basis of this show. God, how can the producers of this show greenlight episodes like this???

Could be that there are alot of fans out there who actually care about Chloe. :eek:

[jas01724]

'Rene requested a bump of this thread ... :up:

[avidreader]

'Rene requested a bump of this thread ... :up:

You always seem to be there just popping up when someone calls. :up: :) I so love that, and I love your new web design too. :up:

[Serene]

'Rene requested a bump of this thread ... :up:

And James to the rescue... :D

Thanks, bud.

[The Sage]

My top four:

Solitude
Lexmas
Cyborg
Splinter

[Serene]

Since we've had 3 more eps air since this was last updated, I thought we could update our lists... and the cumulative list.

Here is the overall list that Pat posted based on all the lists posted.I'll update this post with new episode titles as they're announced, but here's where we stand as of 2/10/06:

Aired eps
01 Arrival
02 Mortal
03 Hidden
04 Aqua
05 Thirst
06 Exposed
07 Splinter
08 Solitude
09 Lexmas
10 Fanatic
11 Lockdown
12 Reckoning
13 Vengeance
14 Tomb

The episodes to be weaved in to the above list are: Cyborg, Hypnotic, and Void.

[avidreader]

Since we've had 3 more eps air since this was last updated, I thought we could update our lists... and the cumulative list.

Here is the overall list that Pat posted based on all the lists posted.

The episodes to be weaved in to the above list are: Cyborg, Hypnotic, and Void.

You show me yours and I'll show you mine. ;)

[KalKai]

James, you gotta change that picture, it's not that it's bad.. but he was at the party having fun.. and with his EYES CLOSED, lol.

[Kane]

My top three:

Solitude
Cyborg
Hidden

These are the only episodes I thought were well written for the most part and deserved to be called 'good' or 'great'.

The rest had good points and bad points.

[jas01724]

You always seem to be there just popping up when someone calls. I so love that, and I love your new web design too.I'm like a bad smell ... always hanging around. ;) And thankies.

Thanks, bud.No problemo. :up:

[avidreader]

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Cyborg
Arrival
Vengeance
Mortal
Solitude
Void
Thirst
Lexmas
Hypnotic
Fanatic
Lockdown
Tomb
Exposed
Aqua

[Serene]

Okay.. here's my update with a tweak or two:

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Mortal
Lexmas
Cyborg
Arrival
Lockdown
Void
Vengeance
Solitude
Thirst
Aqua
Fanatic
Exposed
Hypnotic
Tomb

**Reminder.. if you want your list to be incorporated into the overall list, then you have to format it as Most favorite to Least favorite. Doing by numerical ratings with "ties" won't work. Of course, you are free to do as you want. :D

[Jay1/2Dub]

My new list...

01 Solitude-10/10
02 Arrival-10/10
03 Cyborg-10/10
04 Reckoning-10/10
05 Splinter-10/10
06 Lexmas-9/10
07 Hidden-8/10
08 Exposed-8/10
09 Lockdown-7/10
10 Aqua-7/10
11 Void-7/10
12 Fanatic-6/10
13 Vengeance-5/10
14 Mortal-5/10
15 Hypnotic-4/10
16 Thirst-3/10
17 Tomb-1/10

[AgentPat]

My criteria for order preference is based on how apt I am to rewatch a specific episode, so my list has changed a little bit since the last time we did this. The separation gets a little fuzzy with episodes listed after Cyborg on the list below. For example, Hypnotic and Void are probably higher than they should be, but since they aired so recently, I'm more likely to rewatch them more than say episodes like Lexmas or Exposed.

I think the eps will settle into a more permanent order of preference after the season ends, but here's my list as it stands today...

01 Hidden
02 Mortal
03 Arrival
04 Splinter
05 Reckoning
06 Solitude
07 Aqua
08 Vengeance
09 Cyborg
10 Hypnotic
11 Void
12 Lexmas
13 Exposed
14 Thirst
15 Lockdown
16 Fanatic
17 Tomb

I'll do a tally through Void when more folks have posted. Should be interesting to see how much has changed.

[Brainiac 8]

Here we are...updated list time. And yes Pat, mine has changed some as well.:)

Solitude
Mortal
Cyborg
Hidden
Reckoning
Arrival
Lexmas
Splinter
Aqua
Exposed
Lockdown
Vengeance
Hypnotic
Thirst
Fanatic
Tomb
Void

[avidreader]

Two new episodes to add to the list. I think the next three episodes are going to be almost a 3 parter, so I rank 'em until after they're done.

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Mortal
Fragile
Mercy
Cyborg
Arrival
Vengeance
Solitude
Void
Thirst
Lexmas
Hypnotic
Fanatic
Lockdown
Tomb
Exposed
Aqua

[triplet]

Hidden
Splinter
Mortal
Cyborg
Mercy
Reckoning
Solitude
Fragile
Arrival
Vengeance
Void
Thirst
Lexmas
Lockdown
Fanatic
Exposed
Aqua
Tomb
Hypnotic

[Serene]

I'm having a really hard time putting Mercy in above, or below, Cyborg. It's really kind of a tie.

Hidden
Reckoning
Splinter
Mortal
Lexmas
Cyborg
Mercy
Arrival
Lockdown
Void
Vengeance
Solitude
Thirst
Aqua
Fanatic
Exposed
Hypnotic
Tomb

[GothicPowerMix1]

My Top 3 are (not in any order)

Splinter
Cyborg
Lexmas

[LL2K2]

Updated through #5-19:

Let's see...

Excellent Episodes (5/5): Mortal, Hidden, Solitude, Cyborg

Above Average (4/5): Arrival, Exposed, Splinter, Lexmas, Mercy

Good Episodes (3/5): Aqua, Fanatic, Lockdown, Reckoning, Tomb, Fragile

Fair Episodes (2/5): Thirst, Vengeance, Void

Yuck! (1/5): Hypnotic

Overall rankings, most favorite to least favorite:

Hidden
Mortal
Solitude
Cyborg
Arrival
Lexmas
Splinter
Mercy
Fragile
Exposed
Aqua
Fanatic
Reckoning
Tomb
Lockdown
Thirst
Vengeance
Void
Hypnotic

[TKodami]

Ranked from most favorite to least favorite:

1. Reckoning (5/5)
2. Mercy
3. Hidden
4. Arrival
5. Fanatic
6. Cyborg
7. Exposed
8. Lockdown
9. Aqua
10. Splinter
11. Solitude
12. Fragile
13. Lexmas
14. Void
15. Tomb
16. Mortal
17. Vengeance
18. Hypnotic
19. Thirst (3/5)

[boydston_14]

#1-512/Reckoning
#2-501/Arrival
#3-508/Solitude
#4-503/Hidden
#5-507/Splinter
#6-515/Cyborg
#7-519/Mercy
#8-504/Aqua
#9-510/Fanatic
#10-502/Mortal
#11-517/Void
#12-518/Fragile
#13-511/Lockdown
#14-513/Vengeance
#15-516/Hypnotic
#16-505/Thirst
#17-514/Tomb

I still haven't seen Lexmas or Exposed yet.

[The Caped Knight]

Update

{SUPER EPISODES}:supes:
1. Solitude
2. Splinter
3. Exposed
4. Cyborg
5. Mercy

{Good Episodes}:)
6. Hidden
7. Lexmas
8. Aqua
9. Arrival
10.Vengeance

{Ok episodes}:o
11.Reckoning
12.Lockdown
13.Fanatic
14.Mortal
15.Tomb
16.Fragile

{Bad Episodes}:mad: :down :down
17.Hypnotic
18.Void
19.Thirst

[Tornado]

Thusfar:

1. 503 - Hidden
2. 512 - Reckoning
3. 501 - Arrival
4. 508 - Solitude
5. 519 - Mercy
6. 518 - Fragile
7. 515 - Cyborg
8. 510 - Fanatic
9. 509 - Lexmas
10. 513 - Vengeance
11. 507 - Splinter
12. 504 - Aqua
13. 502 - Mortal
14. 517 - Void
15. 516 - Hypnotic
16. 511 - Lockdown
17. 506 - Exposed
18. 505 - Thirst
19. 514 - Tomb

This Week: 520 - Fade
Future: 521 - Oracle and 522 - Vessel

[tonytr1687]

Hidden
Splinter
Mortal
Cyborg
Mercy
Reckoning
Solitude
Fragile
Arrival
Vengeance
Void
Thirst
Lexmas
Lockdown
Fanatic
Exposed
Aqua
Tomb
Hypnotic

You have Thirst and Fragile above Lexmas? Shame on you, Triplet...

Mine:

Hidden - 10
Reckoning - 10
Arrival - 9
Lexmas - 9
Solitude - 9
Splinter - 8
Mortal - 8
Cyborg - 8
Lockdown - 8
Mercy - 8
Void - 7
Vengeance - 7
Fragile - 7
Fanatic - 7
Exposed - 6
Aqua - 6
Hypnotic - 5
Thirst - 5
Tomb - 4

[triplet]

You have Thirst and Fragile above Lexmas? Shame on you, Triplet...


Well, in the middle a lot of them are essentially tied but I had to put them in some kind of order...

[Brainiac 8]

Well, in the middle a lot of them are essentially tied but I had to put them in some kind of order...

I loved Fragile, I may agree with you on the order of where you put that episode. I liked Lexmas much better than Thirst though.:O