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In light of all that's happened,I think it would really push the story forward if Peter found out a bit more about his birth parents.At this point,it hasn't really been established or even ackknowledged as to how much Peter knows about them.What do you guys think?I know in the Ultimate books,Pete's daddy was a scientist who discovered the Venom suit.In that cartoon they were revealed to be spies I think?But in the comics,I'm not sure what their story was.
What do you guys think?Should Pete find out more about his parents in the films?And if so,should it deal with any particular subplots?(eg.Pete's dad and Eddy's dad coming up with the "Venom" suit)
Discuss!!
Cmill216
02-12-2006, 08:06 PM
A very interesting point, one that I have thought about myself. But, I believe that when you are trying to cram so much into two hour chunks, some things just have to be left on the cutting room floor.
I believe that his parents should be addressed eventually, but I do still believe the "parents' death" angle belongs to the Batman films because it impacted Bruce's life far greater than Peter's.
GoldGoblin
02-12-2006, 08:08 PM
Can't they take at least five minutes to talk about Peter's parents.
Cmill216
02-12-2006, 08:16 PM
Can't they take at least five minutes to talk about Peter's parents.
Yes, but that's not something you just want to throw in for the sake of throwing in, IMO. If they are going to bring it up, make it significant to what's going on in the story.
Yes, but that's not something you just want to throw in for the sake of throwing in, IMO. If they are going to bring it up, make it significant to what's going on in the story.
Exactly.
Plus,I think it's safe to say at this point that Peter isn't still grieving over his parents death.I think we could assume he's clueless about them.And when and if they are discussed,Peter should be nothing but curious.It would be far from believeable if he all of a sudden starts crying or something.
LarryLegend
02-12-2006, 08:40 PM
1. Cramming in a subplot about Peter and his parents is too much.
2. Its not needed at all given the previous two films.
3. Peter's parents are spies who were killed by the Red Skull in the comics (ASM Annual #5). That wouldn't work well on the big screen.
lordofthenerds
02-12-2006, 08:48 PM
1. Cramming in a subplot about Peter and his parents is too much.
2. Its not needed at all given the previous two films.
3. Peter's parents are spies who were killed by the Red Skull in the comics (ASM Annual #5). That wouldn't work well on the big screen.
I'd have to say that I agree. It sounds like we already have a lot going on in this movie and we don't really need his parents to be brought up in the movie.
GoldGoblin
02-12-2006, 08:50 PM
Yes, but that's not something you just want to throw in for the sake of throwing in, IMO. If they are going to bring it up, make it significant to what's going on in the story.
^They could save that story for S-M4.
Pagrebo
02-12-2006, 08:50 PM
Peter tells Norman just before GG's death that he has a father, his Uncle Ben. I'm guessing that statement alone eliminates any plans for Peter's parents. (But I could be wrong, cuz that's not staying true to the characters personalities or sumptin' like dat.)
Spider-Bite
02-12-2006, 09:00 PM
His parents should not be spies or anything special or out of the ordinary. They should actually have been dead the whole time like they have been.
In the comic book they had a temporary story line where his parents had been secretly alive the whole time, but it ended up being a hoax by Green Goblin. They should never bring his parents back in the movies. It would be alright if there was a conversation talking about them and how they died, which should be like a car accident or a plane crash or something.
Cmill216
02-12-2006, 09:02 PM
And again, unlike Bruce Wayne, Peter's parents' deaths are not that important to his character in the big scheme of things. It just isn't that important IMO.
TheSlag
02-12-2006, 10:51 PM
1. Cramming in a subplot about Peter and his parents is too much.
2. Its not needed at all given the previous two films.
3. Peter's parents are spies who were killed by the Red Skull in the comics (ASM Annual #5). That wouldn't work well on the big screen.
Exactly. :up: :up:
And to what purpose would it serve? None, that I can see.
CrimeMaster!
02-12-2006, 11:24 PM
1. Cramming in a subplot about Peter and his parents is too much.
2. Its not needed at all given the previous two films.
3. Peter's parents are spies who were killed by the Red Skull in the comics (ASM Annual #5). That wouldn't work well on the big screen.
Yeah agreed.:up:
Plus they weren't even killed by the real Red Skull.
Sean Adisano
02-13-2006, 06:52 AM
A very interesting point, one that I have thought about myself. But, I believe that when you are trying to cram so much into two hour chunks, some things just have to be left on the cutting room floor.
I believe that his parents should be addressed eventually, but I do still believe the "parents' death" angle belongs to the Batman films because it impacted Bruce's life far greater than Peter's.
exactly. and plus peter has uncle ben who died, and impacted him. but it would be nice, if not in this film, the next, to mention his parents.
Cinemaman
02-13-2006, 07:56 AM
I don't think Raimi will include this storyline.
We don't need it.
Let it be in comics, but NOT in films.
craigaat
02-13-2006, 08:33 AM
I don't see why you would ever need it in the movie universe.
Cinemaman
02-13-2006, 08:39 AM
I don't see why you would ever need it in the movie universe.
This post to me?
kevinpenni
02-13-2006, 05:52 PM
If they didn't really mention his parents in Spidey 2, why now?
I can see May mentioning his parents if Pete and MJ get married, something along the lines like, "I know Pete's parents would have loved to see this..."
Sean Adisano
02-13-2006, 05:58 PM
If they didn't really mention his parents in Spidey 2, why now?
I can see May mentioning his parents if Pete and MJ get married, something along the lines like, "I know Pete's parents would have loved to see this..."
i can see that happening.
Symbiotica
02-13-2006, 06:04 PM
Hell yeah, I say bring 'em. We got a cast of thousands now, what's a few more? Sure! We need a sub-plot about spy-parents who end up getting assassinated by people working for the Red Skull, you betcha! Great idea! I say they work this in ASAP!
Spider-Fan
02-13-2006, 06:05 PM
They are not really necessary to get into. The movie has enough to worry about as is.
The Traveller
02-13-2006, 06:24 PM
please, don't make titles like this one
every time i read one of these I feel like I die a little bit inside, it's the main reason i don't visit the x-men movies forum.
"Catches thieves just like flies: The Official Spider-Man thread"
"Life's a Beach: The Official Sandman thread"
"I'll fall and I won't get up: The Official Gwen Stacy thread"
~groans~
craigaat
02-13-2006, 09:38 PM
This post to me?
No, just generally, it's a crazy sub-plot at best. I know it was in the comics, but it's a daft story.
GothicPowerMix1
02-14-2006, 03:05 AM
Have they even mentioned Peters Parents at all in these Movies ? I know in Spider-Man 1 when Peter first met Norman Norman said "Your parents must be very proud" & Peter responded with "I live with my Aunt & Uncle they are proud" I find it odd that (correct me if I am wrong) that the Movies have NOT AT ALL addressed Peters Parents being dead PERIOD. Who knows could be a reason as to why there has been completely NO mention of his Parents PERIOD.
<(o_o)>
02-14-2006, 03:51 AM
What year would Peter's parents in the comics have gotten killed? Sometime between World War 2 & the 1960's when Spider-Man was first created? In the 90's animated series they did a little back story on Peter's parents & it was all tied in with the Red Skull & Captain America era, the 1940's & so on, so it was definitely out dated for the cartoon series, Peter should have been a person in his late 40's or early 50's in the 90's animated series. It would really be out dated if they ever tried to tell about them in the movies, it's just an arch that needs some major over hauling.
MaxCarnage
02-14-2006, 09:23 AM
In the movies they made it quite clear that Ben was Peter's "father" for all intents and purposes, so to throw in the element of his actual parents just muddies things up in a format that can only tell stories in a limited amount of time. It's cool in a long-running comic series to explore characters more in-depth, but for the sake of the movies leave it at what's been told.
HughJackFan420
02-15-2006, 11:42 AM
In light of all that's happened,I think it would really push the story forward if Peter found out a bit more about his birth parents.At this point,it hasn't really been established or even ackknowledged as to how much Peter knows about them.What do you guys think?I know in the Ultimate books,Pete's daddy was a scientist who discovered the Venom suit.In that cartoon they were revealed to be spies I think?But in the comics,I'm not sure what their story was.
What do you guys think?Should Pete find out more about his parents in the films?And if so,should it deal with any particular subplots?(eg.Pete's dad and Eddy's dad coming up with the "Venom" suit)
Discuss!!
well if they go the Ultimate Spiderman route then yes they should go into the story. if they decide to go the cartoon route (i think) where Jamieson Jr. comes back with the symbiote i doubt they would even bother.
Retroman
07-05-2006, 02:18 PM
I'd like an explanation about Pete's real parents.It doesn't need to be a big thing.
Red X
07-05-2006, 02:20 PM
Retro hit the nail on the head so to speak.
Visionary
07-05-2006, 02:33 PM
I'd like an explanation about Pete's real parents.It doesn't need to be a big thing.
Me too, but not in this film. The 4th film would be an excellent place for an explanation, and to explore the boy's parents, he must wonder about them. There should at least be pictures of them hanging up somewhere.:o
Sean Adisano
07-05-2006, 06:08 PM
A very interesting point, one that I have thought about myself. But, I believe that when you are trying to cram so much into two hour chunks, some things just have to be left on the cutting room floor.
I believe that his parents should be addressed eventually, but I do still believe the "parents' death" angle belongs to the Batman films because it impacted Bruce's life far greater than Peter's.
100% true :up:
Mal'Akai
07-05-2006, 06:09 PM
This is one of those realy in-depth comic angles that would need it's own movie. Maybe a sub-plot for #4, but not in this flick.
CrypticOne
07-05-2006, 06:19 PM
In light of all that's happened,I think it would really push the story forward if Peter found out a bit more about his birth parents.At this point,it hasn't really been established or even ackknowledged as to how much Peter knows about them.What do you guys think?I know in the Ultimate books,Pete's daddy was a scientist who discovered the Venom suit.In that cartoon they were revealed to be spies I think?But in the comics,I'm not sure what their story was.
What do you guys think?Should Pete find out more about his parents in the films?And if so,should it deal with any particular subplots?(eg.Pete's dad and Eddy's dad coming up with the "Venom" suit)
Discuss!!
Interesting. But how would Peter knowing about his parents push the story forward. It seems that this movie is gonna be about the symbiote mostly. Then theres the battles.
Farren
07-05-2006, 06:21 PM
Could be interesting, even if it's just a bit more info to flesh out Peter's past. But I think MaxCarnage makes a good point:
In the movies they made it quite clear that Ben was Peter's "father" for all intents and purposes, so to throw in the element of his actual parents just muddies things up in a format that can only tell stories in a limited amount of time. It's cool in a long-running comic series to explore characters more in-depth, but for the sake of the movies leave it at what's been told.
Throwing in the Parkers could draw away from the relationship with his aunt and uncle - and with a packed storyline already it's risky.
Sean Adisano
07-05-2006, 06:21 PM
Interesting. But how would Peter knowing about his parents push the story forward. It seems that this movie is gonna be about the symbiote mostly. Then theres the battles.
yea, his parents won't be anything in this one most likely. and if to be something, they'll probably be mentioned either between aunt may and peter (have peter ask questions) or between m.j and peter (have m.j ask questions)
CrypticOne
07-05-2006, 06:26 PM
yea, his parents won't be anything in this one most likely. and if to be something, they'll probably be mentioned either between aunt may and peter (have peter ask questions) or between m.j and peter (have m.j ask questions)
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
Reikowolf
07-05-2006, 06:28 PM
pete was too young to remember much about his birth parents
remember...
"I had a father.... his name was Ben Parker"
NinjaTurtleFan
07-05-2006, 06:35 PM
In light of all that's happened,I think it would really push the story forward if Peter found out a bit more about his birth parents.At this point,it hasn't really been established or even ackknowledged as to how much Peter knows about them.What do you guys think?I know in the Ultimate books,Pete's daddy was a scientist who discovered the Venom suit.In that cartoon they were revealed to be spies I think?But in the comics,I'm not sure what their story was.
What do you guys think?Should Pete find out more about his parents in the films?And if so,should it deal with any particular subplots?(eg.Pete's dad and Eddy's dad coming up with the "Venom" suit)
Discuss!!
You know they could have it where Peter's parents were chemists working for a top-secret organization ("S.H.I.E.L.D.") and then were killed by Electro because wasn't Electro a Russian commie or a Nazi in the cartoons? And he steals the formula to give him super strength.
Cinemaman
07-06-2006, 01:16 AM
I think the idea of parents should be only in comics.
It isn't James Bond or Spy Kids, it is Spidey, and parents stuff would be unnecessary and not realistic.
James"007"Bond
07-06-2006, 06:41 AM
I think the idea of parents should be only in comics.
It isn't James Bond or Spy Kids, it is Spidey, and parents stuff would be unnecessary and not realistic.
Your right, this isn't James Bond but still...
I think a great opportunity to have some mention of his parents should be when Peter meets and converses with Gwen. Getting to know each other, so to speak. Gwen could mention that she is an only child being raised by single parent who happens to be a major figure within the police force. Peter could then reciprocate by mentioning that his parents were victims of the cold war, its subtle regrding the secret agents business and its very far from being far-fetched.....thus we then have pete mention how he lived with his aunt and uncle and that his uncle died and bla blah blah and then Peter may feel a tad distressed talking about it and then the conversation moves on away from that topic.
Its brief and deepens the exploration of Peter's back ground, all within under 3 minutes.
Cinemaman
07-06-2006, 10:41 AM
^^^
As I said, it will not work in the movie, leave it with comics.
Retroman
07-06-2006, 04:29 PM
Your right, this isn't James Bond but still...
I think a great opportunity to have some mention of his parents should be when Peter meets and converses with Gwen. Getting to know each other, so to speak. Gwen could mention that she is an only child being raised by single parent who happens to be a major figure within the police force. Peter could then reciprocate by mentioning that his parents were victims of the cold war, its subtle regrding the secret agents business and its very far from being far-fetched.....thus we then have pete mention how he lived with his aunt and uncle and that his uncle died and bla blah blah and then Peter may feel a tad distressed talking about it and then the conversation moves on away from that topic.
Its brief and deepens the exploration of Peter's back ground, all within under 3 minutes.
Very nice suggestion.:up: I don't see what the big deal is about explaining Pete's parents absence.
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