The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[Iceman]

How much cardio do youse guys do in a week? I don't mean muscle and fitness **** that jag and Spoons are doing, but just on average. I don't want to get all buff and diesel, want to maintain that lean demeanor.1hr intensive on cardio days (3 times a week) & 30 mins easy pace on weight lifting days (3 times a week), nearly always on the elliptical.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Alright, so I did it today finally. Working out at home with my limited equipment is only getting me so far. So I joined 24hr today. I just wanted to sign up but of course I had to go through a whole tour and the speal (sp) of all that crap, and five personal training sessions.

It was funny, the guy asked me if I know how many calories a day I am eating and I told him approximately 2700. He was surprised because he said he hadn't had anyone tell him that before, no one usually knows about how many they are intaking.

Well, here's to hitting the weights hard now.

Oh and Jag, my shoulders already feel tremendously better from just two days icing. Thanks :up:

[Superman79]

Alright, due to the hectic combination of finals week and pre-graduation matters I have had to significantly alter my gym time. Thus the use of supersets...very heavy (as possible) supersets. I dare say I'm picking up some serious fat burning from it, and my muscle mass isn't suffering too badly. I highly recommend them in the weeks you're short on time.

One question...does anyone know any good boxing workouts?? I heard that is great cardio that can really fire up your definition and assist in firming up your muscle mass...

[Dorian Gray]

How much cardio do youse guys do in a week? I don't mean muscle and fitness **** that jag and Spoons are doing, but just on average. I don't want to get all buff and diesel, want to maintain that lean demeanor.


I'm a fanatic when it comes to cardio
Jump Rope (random time limits)
Jogging 2 miles(how ever long it takes)
Sationary Bike - 45-50
.....are my favorites
If I'm at the gym I'll hop on the Elliptical for awhile.

But its spread out through the week and broken down into different exercises that day depeding on my routine that day but its about 6 days a week.

..But my of regimen is for something different.

Just 45 minutes 4 days a week is a good fro just remaining thin.

[mrvlknight21]

I've been off and on because of an ailment and exams, not to mention work.

What I need is a kick@$$ regiment to get me back into the game. I don't care if it takes a slightly differenet diet, two weeks of rack chins, etc.

Just give me some ideas. And if Devil reads this.. I was never here! :ninja:

U cant be serious!!!!!!
Somebody, anybody answer this post before I kill him!

[user123456789]

I do cardio twice a week.
sex?

[tzarinna]

I brought my Yoga (focus on the back) dvd and I have yet to do it. :csad:

[Babs Gordon]

It's another beautiful day but I think I'm going to go spin at the gym today to continue to improve my technique and do some core training afterward with planks and jackknives and reverse crunches and stuff. I'm not really feeling the dumbells today.

[AndThePickles]

sex?

I wish that could count as intense cardio :csad:

[Lightning Strykez!]

It's another beautiful day but I think I'm going to go spin at the gym today to continue to improve my technique and do some core training afterward with planks and jackknives and reverse crunches and stuff. I'm not really feeling the dumbells today.

I love your attitude...this is the kind of mentality I try to get my clients to adopt for personal training. Instead, they hate me.

At any rate, I sprained my ankle playing ball. So I'm not doing **** today. :csad:

[Babs Gordon]

Wellll I've got a new expensive bike in my sights so I want to be perfectly ready for it when I finally can afford it in the summertime ;)

And ATP... sex *could* count as intense cardio, but you have to *make* it count (like all nighters and stuff I think).

[jaguarr]

I've been off and on because of an ailment and exams, not to mention work.

What I need is a kick@$$ regiment to get me back into the game. I don't care if it takes a slightly differenet diet, two weeks of rack chins, etc.

Just give me some ideas. And if Devil reads this.. I was never here! :ninja:

Why don't you start with telling us what you have been doing and why you're bored with it and don't feel it's going to give you what you need? Also, your current goals and where you are in terms of achieving them would be helpful.

U cant be serious!!!!!!
Somebody, anybody answer this post before I kill him!

Kill him, Devil! Kill him good!

I wish that could count as intense cardio :csad:

It does if you do it long and hard enough.

I love your attitude...this is the kind of mentality I try to get my clients to adopt for personal training. Instead, they hate me.

At any rate, I sprained my ankle playing ball. So I'm not doing **** today. :csad:

Do you do PT as a full time gig or a thing on the side, Cal?



As for me, I'm happy to report that my boobies are still sore from my chest workout the other day. My bi's are still a bit sore as well (they tend to recover pretty quickly). Today I've got a hellacious legs & shoulders workout planned after work. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Why don't you start with telling us what you have been doing and why you're bored with it and don't feel it's going to give you what you need? Also, your current goals and where you are in terms of achieving them would be helpful.



Kill him, Devil! Kill him good!



It does if you do it long and hard enough.



Do you do PT as a full time gig or a thing on the side, Cal?



As for me, I'm happy to report that my boobies are still sore from my chest workout the other day. My bi's are still a bit sore as well (they tend to recover pretty quickly). Today I've got a hellacious legs & shoulders workout planned after work. :up:

jag

Jag-Once I kill him, you won't have to answer this question, it will save both of us some time and aggravation.

[Babs Gordon]

I did two cardio sessions today...

First I walked about 40 minutes real fast around Mirror Lake in town. Later I went and did some interval training on the spin bike and focused on technique. God my upper body hates being coerced back into good cycling form. I managed to do some curls afterward, but my gym buddy had to skedaddle home.

On top of it all the sparkpeople website has helped me keep my calorie intake down to between 1300-1500 every day. I'm eating plenty and feeling good minus all the excess fat and empty calories/carbs that I just don't need. Dinner tonight was mesquite lime chicken breast with a spinach salad on the side and some sourdough bread and olive oil. Mmm.

[Dorian Gray]

Early morning
Jump Rope - 3 minutes
Jogged 2 miles
Flexibility: Dynamic and Static Stretching

later on
Circut training
Isometric with bullworker and my home built device
Abs
Roman Chair - 3x30
Waist Twists - 4x70
Twisting Situps 3x30
Side Bends -3x20
Leg Lifts - 3x20

Martial Arts class for 3 hours

I'm the type that if he isn't working out, I'm thinking about working out and what i can add to make it more challenging.

[Babs Gordon]

Time to get some more hobbies... :confused: Whoa.

[JStorm]

Hobbies are for fat kids!

Babsy, keep up the good work... and marry me! :o

I's gotta run a few miles tomorrow and I'll be up to par for the week.

Oh.. and see Ma because I gotta work Sunday!

[jaguarr]

Atta-girl, Babs! :up:

Somewhat lackluster legs/shoulders workout tonight. I was pretty worn down after work for some reason. Even after a short catnap I was still dragging ass. Pushed through my workout, but my legs were definitely not into it today and my strength was somewhat subpar. Still felt like I hit everything nice and hard, though. Been a tough week all around. Hopefully next week will be better.

jag

[AndThePickles]

My cardio and ab workout was FANTASTIC today. I sweat a heap though.....no AC in the gym tonight and I looked like someone had sprayed me down with baby oil :csad:

[JStorm]

Atta-girl, Babs! :up:

Somewhat lackluster legs/shoulders workout tonight. I was pretty worn down after work for some reason. Even after a short catnap I was still dragging ass. Pushed through my workout, but my legs were definitely not into it today and my strength was somewhat subpar. Still felt like I hit everything nice and hard, though. Been a tough week all around. Hopefully next week will be better.

jag

Go to bed, old man!



Juss kitin!

[jaguarr]

Go to bed, old man!



Juss kitin!

Pipe down, you slacker Nancy-boy!

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Ronnie Coleman works out in his basement....in CA....in sweats....with no A/C.

[Babs Gordon]

I've already surpassed my calorie burning goals this week. If my calculations are correct I've burned about 1800 calories doing cardio since Sunday. :up:

And I would marry you but someone proposed to me last week. And I didn't pick him so just to be fair...

[Babs Gordon]

My cardio and ab workout was FANTASTIC today. I sweat a heap though.....no AC in the gym tonight and I looked like someone had sprayed me down with baby oil :csad:

You should have seen me after I finished spinning... I was a glossy magenta colored girl. There was no AC at my gym either and it was easily 80 somethin in the room I was working out in. Blurgh.

[Dorian Gray]

Time to get some more hobbies... :confused: Whoa.


ha!
yea, martial arts and training are a big part of my life but I make time for everyday life.:yay:

[JStorm]

Pipe down, you slacker Nancy-boy!

jag

Booooo!




And I would marry you but someone proposed to me last week. And I didn't pick him so just to be fair...

More boooooooo









ooooooooooooooo!





Later, everyone! :up:

[jaguarr]

Booooo!



More boooooooo









ooooooooooooooo!





Later, everyone! :up:

Go to bed, little boy! :oldrazz:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Did chest, shoulders and triceps and followed that w/ a 2.2 mile run tonight.

[Babs Gordon]

I wish I could run. My orthopaedic surgeon recommended not to because I've already had knee surgery twice on my right knee. No mini-triathlons for me. But maybe a bike race in my future. Or two or three... :) :up:

[CyberFaust]

i'm having trouble with running, my right leg is way! more sore than my left one, on my right i have sone fracked up knee tendones fron a accident about 2-3 years back and it gives me s*** from time to time. I should probably get surgery but another day.

[jaguarr]

i'm having trouble with running, my right leg is way! more sore than my left one, on my right i have sone fracked up knee tendones fron a accident about 2-3 years back and it gives me s*** from time to time. I should probably get surgery but another day.

You might try a pair of the cheap Dr. Scholl's Orthotic shoe inserts. I paid $6 for mine, I think. They make a huge difference for me. Well worth a try. :up:

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Alright so since I signed up for the long term deal with 24 hr I get 5 sessions with a PT. Should I take them or just continue to do work on my own? I'm kind of sketchy about the ones that work at 24hr. Advice?

[jaguarr]

Alright so since I signed up for the long term deal with 24 hr I get 5 sessions with a PT. Should I take them or just continue to do work on my own? I'm kind of sketchy about the ones that work at 24hr. Advice?

Do you get to pick your PT? You know....the ONE guy in the whole place who actually looks like he works out? If so, go for it. If not, I wouldn't be in a mad rush for my training sessions.

jag

[Dorian Gray]

Slow day...took it easy.

Fexibility: Dynamic and Static Stretching
Jogged 1.5 mile
rest
Rump rope 6 minutes(1 minute rest inbetween)

Forearms
Barbell Wrist Curls 3x12
Barbel Reverse Curls 3x12
Overhand Barbell Wrist Curls 3x12
Dumbell Wirst Curls 3x20
Zottman Curls 3x10
Grip
Grip Machine 3X20
Claw Grip/Claw Catcher - 100 rep each hand
Hand Grips 100 reps eanch hand

I like to have strong and proportionate(to the rest of my arms)forearms... a muscle group that personal trainers sometimes tell me not to work that hard.:huh:

[Iceman]

1158 cals burnt on the elliptical.



D Gray, do you have a fixed set of workouts or do you change it every week?

[Dorian Gray]

1158 cals burnt on the elliptical.



D Gray, do you have a fixed set of workouts or do you change it every week?

I re-worked my routine(s) because of constant nagging and worry from friends, fellow fighters(martial artist etc), and Personal trainers that i may burn out and really injure myself.

The lifting days have transformed into a all circuit training, abs, and isometric routine, 3 times a week Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays and it remains a set plan with the exception I'll change ab routines around.

Monday Wednsday and Friday are planned and written down on Sunday when I take the day off. I'll mix up the workout to see what i want to do those particular days. Just to keep it interesting and challenging.

Martial arts classes are unavoidable..then there are training partners(from my
main style and other styles of fighting) that come over or when I'm at thier place that want to train/spar/grapple/etc.

Some still call it overtraining but it's alot better and more efficant(especially the weight training days) than it was before.

Some people are amazed I even have a social life but I utilize free time I have when noone is around instead fo planting myself in front of the TV to train.:word:

[kytrigger]

For weight loss, you want to burn ~500 calories per day more than you are taking in, so you need to plan your calories and cardio accordingly. Here's some more food for thought, though; muscle burns fat. It literally consumes fatty deposits for fuel and the more muscle, the higher your metabolism will boost up as a result. So, maybe dropping your weight training wasn't the best thing you could have done. Maybe consider bringing back your weight training and going back to one-a-days with your cardio and see if that brings you the results you're looking for.


jagYeah, my biggest problem right now is my diet, it was way too light to really help sustain my muscle growth and that's why I could feel my muscles taking almost a week to recover properly. This, and the fact that I will most liekly lose most of the muscle I put on in basic anyway is what made me decid to really stop lifting. But I can't do it. I've gone a week of just going to the gym to do cardio, but I just miss the actual lifting. I have always hated cardio, but enjoyed lifting weights and it's killin got go to the gym to only do somethign I hate.

I need to change my diet again, and i was thinking about the zig-zag diet. The one where I cut my calories down a pretty good amount for 3 days but then go back up to maintenace level for 1 or 2 days to keep my metabolism up. Do you or any of the others find anythign really wrong with this diet? I've never heard anythign really bad about it, but I don't anyone who's actually used it before either.

If that is right, which I doubt it is, but if you are burning 85-100% of your calories through cardio alone, you are burning too much.

In order to lose 1lb a week, all you need to do is cut out 500 calories from your diet, or burn an extra 500 calories a day for 5 days a week. So you don't need to burn all 1500-2000 calories that you are eating. That is over kill.

You don't want to over do it, and you should still weight train, just lower your weight and perform more sets 3-5 and higher reps 12-16.

I am sure Jag, Spoons, and Shadowboxing will either confirm or correct me. But that should be a good place to start.True, I figured I was overdoing it. I was actualyl burning that many calories in my cardio alone, but it was because I had such a light diet.

I wrote earlier about the new diet I am thinking of trying, I'd like to know what you think as well.

Thanks for all your help guys :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Just had a damn good back/shoulders workout :up:

[IndianaJones]

I ran a PFT today.

13 pull ups, 100 crunches(in 2 minutes), 20 minutes 21 seconds 3 mile.

I gotta bring my run time down.

[CyberFaust]

i had a crappy workout today, i went to the gym abd i was exausted to begin with because i had exams today and i barely managed to do my reps and 7 minutes on the treadmill, i played with the incline button today, it's really hell at max incline and speed :D
anyhow, must do better tomorow

[mrvlknight21]

I ran a PFT today.

13 pull ups, 100 crunches(in 2 minutes), 20 minutes 21 seconds 3 mile.

I gotta bring my run time down.

Thats not too bad for 3 miles, less than 7 minutes a mile. Actually, thats good-whats your age?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah, my biggest problem right now is my diet, it was way too light to really help sustain my muscle growth and that's why I could feel my muscles taking almost a week to recover properly. This, and the fact that I will most liekly lose most of the muscle I put on in basic anyway is what made me decid to really stop lifting. But I can't do it. I've gone a week of just going to the gym to do cardio, but I just miss the actual lifting. I have always hated cardio, but enjoyed lifting weights and it's killin got go to the gym to only do somethign I hate.

I need to change my diet again, and i was thinking about the zig-zag diet. The one where I cut my calories down a pretty good amount for 3 days but then go back up to maintenace level for 1 or 2 days to keep my metabolism up. Do you or any of the others find anythign really wrong with this diet? I've never heard anythign really bad about it, but I don't anyone who's actually used it before either.

True, I figured I was overdoing it. I was actualyl burning that many calories in my cardio alone, but it was because I had such a light diet.

I wrote earlier about the new diet I am thinking of trying, I'd like to know what you think as well.

Thanks for all your help guys :up:

Sure anytime, glad to help. Jag, Spoons, Shadowboxing, Marvelknight and boyscout off the top of my head probably know more than I do. But I know the basics and then some, plus each of us brings our own personal experience and take on everything so feel free to ask any of us. :up:

Also what type of body are you? Ectomorph, Mesomorph or Endomorph?

That will help you out as well to determine what kind of diet and workout program you need to obtain the body you want.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mayner3.htm

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Do you get to pick your PT? You know....the ONE guy in the whole place who actually looks like he works out? If so, go for it. If not, I wouldn't be in a mad rush for my training sessions.

jag

He might be the only one. I did meet him and he looked somewhat built, but not really huge or ripped.

[Babs Gordon]

I went and did some more spinning at the gym today. 45 minutes of interval training. God sprints kill me. I also went and put money down on my new (future) bike. I should have it all bought and paid for by mid-June:
http://www2.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/pilot50wsd_irisblue.jpg

[Iceman]

I re-worked my routine(s) because of constant nagging and worry from friends, fellow fighters(martial artist etc), and Personal trainers that i may burn out and really injure myself.

The lifting days have transformed into a all circuit training, abs, and isometric routine, 3 times a week Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays and it remains a set plan with the exception I'll change ab routines around.

Monday Wednsday and Friday are planned and written down on Sunday when I take the day off. I'll mix up the workout to see what i want to do those particular days. Just to keep it interesting and challenging.

Martial arts classes are unavoidable..then there are training partners(from my
main style and other styles of fighting) that come over or when I'm at thier place that want to train/spar/grapple/etc.

Some still call it overtraining but it's alot better and more efficant(especially the weight training days) than it was before.Variety is great to keep you motivated. :up:

Overtraining is probably one of the easiest traps to fall into (I used to be ridiculous when I started out) and it's very difficult to drum it into yourself that it's counterproductive ie if you carry on pushing after a certain limit, you're reversing some of the gains you've made. Watch out for it, train hard and fast but always make you sure you eat enough (and the right kind of food) and get enough rest (which I don't think you always seem to get :yay:). Also I want to get back into martial arts asap. I've been too disorganised, lazy and busy to sort it out for the last year :csad:

Some people are amazed I even have a social life but I utilize free time I have when noone is around instead fo planting myself in front of the TV to train.:word::up: Exactly, fitness really doesn't take that much time up compared to most other hobbies. It's a much more efficient use of an hour a day than say...err posting on the internet :woot:

[Iceman]

I went and did some more spinning at the gym today. 45 minutes of interval training. God sprints kill me. I also went and put money down on my new (future) bike. I should have it all bought and paid for by mid-June:
http://www2.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/pilot50wsd_irisblue.jpgNice :up:

Nothing like a bit of motivation to get you through those spinning classes :yay:

[Babs Gordon]

I'm not doing spinning classes. I'm doing something more annoyingly difficult... spinning alone. Somehow I manage to force myself through the work outs, push myself etc. It's sure as hell easier when someone is telling you what to do when though.

[Iceman]

I'm not doing spinning classes. I'm doing something more annoyingly difficult... spinning alone. Somehow I manage to force myself through the work outs, push myself etc. It's sure as hell easier when someone is telling you what to do when though.To be honest I'm completely useless on bikes in the gym. Classes are the only way that I can get a half decent workout from them, not that I really do them anymore. Are there any classes at your gym? Anyway, nothing beats outdoors, as long as the weather's not too bad.

[Dorian Gray]

Variety is great to keep you motivated. :up:

Overtraining is probably one of the easiest traps to fall into (I used to be ridiculous when I started out) and it's very difficult to drum it into yourself that it's counterproductive ie if you carry on pushing after a certain limit, you're reversing some of the gains you've made. Watch out for it, train hard and fast but always make you sure you eat enough (and the right kind of food) and get enough rest (which I don't think you always seem to get :yay:). [Also I want to get back into martial arts asap. I've been too disorganised, lazy and busy to sort it out for the last year :csad:

My daily diet program is very strict I never eat anything that isn't benefical to me and I eat enough to keep me going(also combined with supplements, like protein drinks, vitamins and minerals.). As for over training, I know the draining effects that weight training leaves in it's wake so I limit it to 3 times a week and that's all I'll do that day, maybe abs and flexibilty training included.

It's my cardio/endurance and Martial Arts training that draws the most criticism. For the same reason you just mentioned, rest. Which I do get siffciant rest, evenings, sleep, all day Sunday....

What Martial Arts did you take before you quit?

[Babs Gordon]

To be honest I'm completely useless on bikes in the gym. Classes are the only way that I can get a half decent workout from them, not that I really do them anymore. Are there any classes at your gym? Anyway, nothing beats outdoors, as long as the weather's not too bad.

It helps to know a lot of things to work on that will hone your technique when you're on the road. I went to a 5:45 AM spin class last fall but ended up quitting it because everyone seemed unfriendly and bitter at that hour and frankly I didn't want to deal with that first thing in the morning. I'll be spinning til I get my road bike in June. I'll mountain bike too but I never get a good cardio workout from it since I get slowed up on the technical stuff. :(

[sassycat]

Hey. :)

I've been going to the gym about 5 times a week for the past week, I got a trainer and this is what I've been doing exercise wise:

Strength Training:

2 sets of 12 reps on chest press at 20lbs
2 sets of 12 reps on the lat pulldown at 40 lbs
3 sets of 10 reps on the horizontal leg press at 20 lbs*every other day*
4 sets of 10 reps on the standing glute press at 20 lbs*every other day*
2 sets of 12 reps on the bicep curl at 10 lbs
3 sets of 10 reps slowly on the abdominal bench

For cardio I do 45-50 minutes on two eliptical machines (split in two sets of 25 min)

I also been really trying to eat properly. I've been eating more salad, less bread and I've cut out cheese, except a little feta or goat cheese on occasion. For breakfast I usually have oatmeal with milk, honey and berries or a sliced bannana. Lunch is usualy dinner left overs. I'm seriously considering on making my own meals, and buying some groceries for my self because it can get difficult staying focused when you live with people who don't share the same attitude about their health!:cmad:

Do you think this will help me get proper results? Got any tips for me? Diet or exercse wise? I'd really apreciate it. :):heart:

[Sun_Down]

Just finished a nice leg workout. I'm squatting more every week :up:

[Babs Gordon]

sassycat... with that kind of motivation and attitude i think it could totally work. i just started counting my calories and charting my fitness and i couldn't be happier with my recent diligence. part of it comes from the fact that i realllly want to enter in what i ate/accomplished at the gym on my online fitness tracker, part of it comes from wanting to be kickass on a roadbike when i finally bring it home. :up:

what are your goals for getting in shape? mine are to drop 15-20 lbs (practically all i have to lose to be in SUPER shape-- that is racing shape) and to get really strong, especially core muscles through biking and lifting.

[mrvlknight21]

Just wanted to drop a little line of motivation in case anyone needs it.
Focus on your workout today, whether it be spinning, weight training, distance running or what have you. No matter your goals, make today an effective and successful day by not pussing out on any set, minute of work or rep.
Micky Ward said "Never cut corners. Train hard and don't cut corners. Because if you do, it will come back to kick you in the ass. Guaranteed."
Think about these words when you struggle with your workout today!

[jaguarr]

Just wanted to drop a little line of motivation in case anyone needs it.
Focus on your workout today, whether it be spinning, weight training, distance running or what have you. No matter your goals, make today an effective and successful day by not pussing out on any set, minute of work or rep.
Micky Ward said "Never cut corners. Train hard and don't cut corners. Because if you do, it will come back to kick you in the ass. Guaranteed."
Think about these words when you struggle with your workout today!

Loosely translated:

DO WORK!!!!!!!!!

:up:

jag

[CyberFaust]

Loosely translated:

DO WORK!!!!!!!!!

:up:

jag
i did, i had cardio and biceps-shoulder workout today, even put in a little triceps :)

but wtf, i tried the stationary bike today, it is the most borring thing i've ever done, just starring at a mirror or a wall, i need to bring a book or something, seriously:o

[enterthemadness]

Hey guys, been doing 3 sets of 6 210 lbs + 10 diff on the chest machine for about 3 weeks. I know I should switch it up now, but don't know how many reps or weight to do.

Thanks.

[CyberFaust]

i am a noob but here goes, if it's a electronic machine (i prefer to use those at the gym, because they don't let me cheat) just do a set-up test and see how much you can do.

[Super Kal]

found out last night that I lost another pound... I'm glad walking is working.

[Dorian Gray]

Cricuit Training Followed by the Bullworker for Isometrics
Fexibility - Dynamic and Static Stretching

Rest

Abs
Waist Twists - 4x70
Situp Twists - 4x20
Leg Raises(weighted) 4x20
Frog Kick 4 sets of as many as possible
Crunches(weighted) 4x50
few minutes rest
V-UPs - 4x50 on final contraction on last set I held it for 4 minutes and 8 seconds.

[Dorian Gray]

i did, i had cardio and biceps-shoulder workout today, even put in a little triceps :)

but wtf, i tried the stationary bike today, it is the most borring thing i've ever done, just starring at a mirror or a wall, i need to bring a book or something, seriously:o

I hate working on the Sationary Bike at a gym....I bought my own so I can watch TV(or read) while riding to keep my mind off it..

[WorthyStevens]

I've got an ectomorphic frame, and I need some advice/tips.

For right now, this is the result I want to achieve.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7520/mob1001112367545be2.jpg


Now, my body is about as skinny as that, if a little less, but I'm nowhere near as fit, with my BM being 20%. Do I just need to tone? And if so, what are the best/most valuable exercises for an ectomorph?

[CyberFaust]

i just realised i have yet to set a goal for myself so, here it is, my long term goal:
http://www.sixpacknow.com/ryan_reynolds_six_pack_abs.jpg
dunno about the 2 months thing, it's a month and 3 weeks now, and i vahe noticed some minor differences, my body is just getting used to the pounding it's taking
i'm still working on creating a exact diet program but it should be ready in a day or two

[Colossal Spoons]

Loosely translated:

DO WORK!!!!!!!!!

:up:

jag

Work will be done in about an hour!

[Colossal Spoons]

Woo, first time on the elliptical in a few weeks. Felt really good. Even went in reverse a few times(can def feel that in the hammies and calves)

:up:

[AndThePickles]

Good cardio today *tired*

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Just got back from the gym. Not as heavy as I wanted to, or as many sets but the gym is a lot different from working out at home. But I went hard on the sets I did do.

In other words. I did work son.

But what I really wanted to say is this. How do more people NOT get hurt at the gym? Holy crap I must have seen at least 10 different people using horrible, actually I can't even call it technique, sort of just move my body back and forth and wait for the weight to gain momentum then pull or push it as hard as I can.

It was scary to watch.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, some people need to re-think their entire program before returning to the gym.

[mrvlknight21]

Just got back from the gym. Not as heavy as I wanted to, or as many sets but the gym is a lot different from working out at home. But I went hard on the sets I did do.

In other words. I did work son.

But what I really wanted to say is this. How do more people NOT get hurt at the gym? Holy crap I must have seen at least 10 different people using horrible, actually I can't even call it technique, sort of just move my body back and forth and wait for the weight to gain momentum then pull or push it as hard as I can.

It was scary to watch.

The funniest ones are the ones who use terrible form to get a certain weight and then drop the weight and celebrate like they just set a world record.

[CyberFaust]

The funniest ones are the ones who use terrible form to get a certain weight and then drop the weight and celebrate like they just set a world record.

yeah, about that' while at the gym i've noticed 2 ways to lift wheights:
some people do them really really fast, and i mean pumps, curls, rowing, fly, everything
and some do it slow and take their time
i generaly prefer to take my time with each move and do them right, doing them fast just seems like your using the momentum to lift for you


if i didn't get that right please let me know so i can ajust my routine acordingly :huh::o:yay:

[Iceman]

Using momentum rather than good form means not getting the full muscular benefit from a particular movement performed as well as risk of injury.

[CyberFaust]

so i am doing it right!
thanks

[Iceman]

It helps to know a lot of things to work on that will hone your technique when you're on the road. I went to a 5:45 AM spin class last fall but ended up quitting it because everyone seemed unfriendly and bitter at that hour and frankly I didn't want to deal with that first thing in the morning. I'll be spinning til I get my road bike in June. I'll mountain bike too but I never get a good cardio workout from it since I get slowed up on the technical stuff. :(:wow: At 5.45am I'm not surprised everyone was in a bad mood! :woot:

[Iceman]

so i am doing it right!
thanksIn most cases yeah. Pro weightlifters use momentum to lift heavier weights but their goals are obviously different. I never do clean and jerk type movements myself but I'm not sure how easy they are to do without using momentum. With nearly all your regular resistance exercises in the gym, slow, smooth and controlled is the way to go :up:

[enterthemadness]

I did 3 sets of 6 230 lbs + 5 diff on the chest machine today. :yay: that's a new max.

BOO YAH!

[Superman79]

i just realised i have yet to set a goal for myself so, here it is, my long term goal:
dunno about the 2 months thing, it's a month and 3 weeks now, and i vahe noticed some minor differences, my body is just getting used to the pounding it's taking
i'm still working on creating a exact diet program but it should be ready in a day or two

Changes come slowly, especially to you as you look at yourself, but if you keep it up within another month I'd wager you'll run into someone you haven't seen in a while (going back to school, or work or somthing) and they will comment on how buff/slim/good you're looking...

That's the moment when every minute of work and sweat pays of in one of the sweetest feelings you can ever have: the feeling of accomplishing a major change, even if it's not yet to the Ryan Reynolds standard :D :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Alright, so joining the gym, and going 2 out of the past 5 days so far has got me up and over 160lb finally. I'm at 161lbs. :up:

[Iceman]

1276 cals (in an hour on the elliptical) - that's easily my highest ever :wow:

[Babs Gordon]

I'm beginning week two of my new totally motivated program... So far I've done 7 days of cardio since last Sunday and I've successfully kept my calorie intake below 1500 per day (usually around 1350 to 1400). I feel skinny every morning still. I can't wait to see the progress in another few weeks :up:

[guitarsingerguy]

I just got the okay from my doctor this morning, so I believe I'll be getting back to it in the next week or so.

[Dorian Gray]

Early Morning

Flexibility: Dynamic and Static Stretching
Finger Push ups(all fingers, both hands) 20
Finger Push ups(fore finger and thumb, each individual hand) - 5
Neck Exercises(weighted and Isometric)
Bil(Biu) Jee Form


Afternoon

Hip Flexors with 20lb leg weights - 100 each leg
Shadow KickBoxing - 4 minutes
Jump Rope(all footwork) - 5 minutes
Rolling Vertical Punches(with 10lb wrist weights) - 400
Rolling Vertical Punches(unweighted) 1500

rest

Heavy Bag
Idividual Punches and Combinations - 3 minutes
rest
Rolling Vertical Punches -3, 6 minutes rounds(1 minute rest inbetween)
rest
Kicks(Roundhouse, Side, Front) 2, 5 minute rounds(1 minute rest inbetween)



..and I like seeing others completely motivated about their own routines..:up:

[Super Kal]

I am so extremely happy to announce that I'm now under 280... I haven't been under 280 in over 2 years, and I'm so friggin excited

[jaguarr]

I am so extremely happy to announce that I'm now under 280... I haven't been under 280 in over 2 years, and I'm so friggin excited

Dude, that is AWESOME! See what happens when you do work!? :up:

jag

[JStorm]

Did Work!

Now it's time for a shower and dinner.

I'm thinkin' salmon, sprouts...

[squeekness]

1276 cals (in an hour on the elliptical) - that's easily my highest ever :wow:An hour? 13 minutes and I'm wiped. I suck. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, good job dude! :up:

[Babs Gordon]

hmmm this to me would be an inspiring picture. i would love to earn myself arms like that by october :eek:

http://www.depts.ttu.edu/recsports/images/rockwall.gif

Right now they need a lot of weight lifting love.

[Babs Gordon]

Whoops double post.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

hmmm this to me would be an inspiring picture. i would love to earn myself arms like that by october :eek:

http://www.depts.ttu.edu/recsports/images/rockwall.gif

Right now they need a lot of weight lifting love.

Well if you rock climb correctly you mostly use your legs, not your arms so much. But you can use all arms if you like, but you will be sore as hell the next day unless you've been doing it for a while.

[Babs Gordon]

Trust me I know. I've rock climbed for a very long time. Last year I was rock climbing 4 times a week. Not a huge cardio work out because my hands would tire out the way I climbed very rapidly. You can't deny that rock climbing totally stacks your arms though. My forearms were incredible last year. I want them back. :(

[Dorian Gray]

Diggin' the avvy Spoons:up::woot:

[WorthyStevens]

I've got an ectomorphic frame, and I need some advice/tips.

For right now, this is the result I want to achieve.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7520/mob1001112367545be2.jpg


Now, my body is about as skinny as that, if a little less, but I'm nowhere near as fit, with my BM being 20%. Do I just need to tone? And if so, what are the best/most valuable exercises for an ectomorph?

Anyone?

[Colossal Spoons]

Diggin' the avvy Spoons:up::woot:

Right back atcha. He needs to get his ass back in the manga :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, these two cocky guys in the gym thought they'd look cool doing incline BB bench press with no clamps on the ends....you can guess what happened?

:rolleyes:

[AndThePickles]

Oh, these two cocky guys in the gym thought they'd look cool doing incline BB bench press with no clamps on the ends....you can guess what happened?

:rolleyes:

Those guys were such idiots, ugh.

[Superman79]

I am so extremely happy to announce that I'm now under 280... I haven't been under 280 in over 2 years, and I'm so friggin excited

Hey congrats bro!! Keep on truckin! :up:

[CyberFaust]

i'm heading for the gym to do my chest shoulders biceps workout and cardio :D

i am now doing 12 minutes on the treadmill :D

[Iceman]

An hour? 13 minutes and I'm wiped. I suck. :(It all counts :up:

hmmm this to me would be an inspiring picture.

http://www.depts.ttu.edu/recsports/images/rockwall.gif

This picture would inspire me also :woot:

[enterthemadness]

Oh, these two cocky guys in the gym thought they'd look cool doing incline BB bench press with no clamps on the ends....you can guess what happened?

:rolleyes:

What is a BB bench press?

In any case, you don't always need clips on the bar while you are bench pressing. If you are benching by yourself...and the weight is too heavy..and there's no clips..you could just slide the weights off by tipping the bar. Or if you are doing burnouts, then you wouldn't put clips on.

[AndThePickles]

What is a BB bench press?

In any case, you don't always need clips on the bar while you are bench pressing. If you are benching by yourself...and the weight is too heavy..and there's no clips..you could just slide the weights off by tipping the bar. Or if you are doing burnouts, then you wouldn't put clips on.

Barbell.

Exactly the problem- the weights could slide off when you wouldn't want them to and you could hurt yourself or others. I ALWAYS use clamps...if you're by yourself, ask for a spot from someone else working out.

[jaguarr]

Lifting without clips is basically hoping and praying for an injury. Bad idea.

I'm switching up from the chest/bi's, legs/shoulders, back/tri's routine I've been running the last ~8 weeks to a more traditional push/pull routine of chest/tri's, legs/shoulders, back/tri's configuration this afternoon. I rode that other horse for all it was worth this stretch, but it's time to shake it up a little bit.

Oh, and folks...I'd really appreciate your vote, if you're so inclined. Us fit folks gotta stick together. :up: :
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272918
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2047/votejagwl5.jpg


jag

[JStorm]

I don't vote for liberals!

[jaguarr]

I don't vote for liberals!

You lie like a rug! :oldrazz:

jag

[JStorm]

You lie like a rug! :oldrazz:

jag

I think I already voted for you, man.

Or are you in another deathmatch?

[Colossal Spoons]

What is a BB bench press?

In any case, you don't always need clips on the bar while you are bench pressing. If you are benching by yourself...and the weight is too heavy..and there's no clips..you could just slide the weights off by tipping the bar. Or if you are doing burnouts, then you wouldn't put clips on.

Whoa, who told you to do that!? :down:

[Colossal Spoons]

I've never done chest/bis and back/tris before.

[jaguarr]

I think I already voted for you, man.

Or are you in another deathmatch?

Haha! Yeah, you already got my back, homeboy. :up: If I make it past this round, I'm in the final match. Where the hell is Devil, anyway? Get in there and vote for me, Devil! :cmad:

jag

[jaguarr]

I've never done chest/bis and back/tris before.

I switch between the two different configurations every ~8 weeks or so, depending on how well the current approach is working for me. I work in a lot of periodization to keep the momentum going, switch up each week from 3x6 to 3x8 or 3x10 or even a 5x5 configuration, adjusting the weight accordingly. Keeps the muscle confusion just enough that I keep the progress moving forward. :up:

The reason I use both is, with chest/tri's and back/bi's you get the benefits of pre-exhaustion of the secondary muscle group through the first part of the routine, which allows for direct and indirect work of the arms in the same routine. With chest/bi's and back/tri's, there is no pre-exhaustion so you can push yourself a lot harder on the arms in the same routine, and you also get the added benefit of getting direct work of the targeted muscle group in the arms on one day and then again indirectly later in the week. So, you are getting arm work done more than once a week, just by the nature of the routine. I still think the standard push/pull routines that take advantage of pre-exhaustion lend themselves to growth potential more than this other approach, but they compliment each other nicely to keep growth moving forward when you use them in conjunction like this.

jag

[Super Kal]

hey jag, when is the best time to do cardio?

[Colossal Spoons]

#6 most frequently asked question in this thread :p

[terry78]

^Hey, we wants to know. We all don't want guns like ya'll. Some of us want to maintain our willowy demeanor that the artsy chicks fall for. :o

I used to try to do running on the local high school track after work, but I was a little too tired afterwards, so now I get up at 5:30-6 to do some before going in, otherwise I'll never do it.

[jaguarr]

hey jag, when is the best time to do cardio?

It really depends on why you're doing the cardio, to be honest. Depending on you goals, there are certain things you can do to maximize your cardio benefits and timing is one of them. The best standard, generalized answer I can give to that question is "Whenever you have time to do it".

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I switch between the two different configurations every ~8 weeks or so, depending on how well the current approach is working for me. I work in a lot of periodization to keep the momentum going, switch up each week from 3x6 to 3x8 or 3x10 or even a 5x5 configuration, adjusting the weight accordingly. Keeps the muscle confusion just enough that I keep the progress moving forward. :up:

jag


Yeah, I'd always been meaning to try it out for a few weeks.


I think my leg routine could use a bit of a shake-up though I'm seeing good progress. Just can't really think of anything to add besides lunges maybe.

ATG Squats
Leg Extensions
Seated Calf Raises
Lying Hamstring Curls
Hip Adductors/Abductors OR Leg Press (I alternate weekly)

I always get funny looks from the guys in the gym when I get on the adductor/abductor machines b/c they're supposedly woman machines :rolleyes: I want a firm gracilis and tensor fasciae latae too!

[Super Kal]

alrighty then... I kinda figured that.

[Colossal Spoons]

^Hey, we wants to know. We all don't want guns like ya'll. Some of us want to maintain our willowy demeanor that the artsy chicks fall for. :o

I used to try to do running on the local high school track after work, but I was a little too tired afterwards, so now I get up at 5:30-6 to do some before going in, otherwise I'll never do it.

Oh, I agree. a lot of people want to know. I want nothing to do with that artsy look.

[JStorm]

Haha! Yeah, you already got my back, homeboy. :up: If I make it past this round, I'm in the final match. Where the hell is Devil, anyway? Get in there and vote for me, Devil! :cmad:

jag

CAT Team training.

And before anyone asks, the best example I can give for what a "Cat Team" is, is a Swat Team.

[AndThePickles]

I always get funny looks from the guys in the gym when I get on the adductor/abductor machines b/c they're supposedly woman machines :rolleyes: I want a firm gracilis and tensor fasciae latae too!

Those guys are stupid. I've heard guys talking amongst themselves saying that they felt dumb trying those machines (I guess it was their first time using them) but that they'd never been more sore :o

[jaguarr]

Yeah, I'd always been meaning to try it out for a few weeks.


I think my leg routine could use a bit of a shake-up though I'm seeing good progress. Just can't really think of anything to add besides lunges maybe.

ATG squats
Leg Extensions
Seated Calf Raises
Lying Hamstring Curls
Hip Adductors/Abductos OR Leg Press (I alternate weekly)

I always get funny looks from the guys in the gym when I get on the adductor/abductor machines b/c they're supposedly woman machines :rolleyes: I want a firm gracilis and tensor fasciae latae too!

Hmmm....give this a try:

ATG Squats: Warmup Weight 1 x 10, Warmup Weight 2 x 10, Working Weight 1 x 10, Working Weight 2 (add more weight) x 10, Working Weight 3 (add more weight) x 10, Widowmaker set of 20 reps at a weight you can just barely manage completing all 20 reps without re-racking the weight. Keep a bucket handy because you may feel like throwing up.

Free-Standing BB Calf Raises - These are simple. Put a couple of plates for you to stand on your tippy toes in the squat rack. Shoulder the bar just like you were going to do squats. Now get those toes up on the plates and crank out three sets of 20, free-standing in the cage. Feel your isolator muscles and calves screaming. Alternately, weighted Donkey Calf Raises

Super Set
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls

Move between each of these without any rest. Three sets of ten.

Throw in shoulders after that if you're able to. Have fun cursing me the next three days. :D

jag

[jaguarr]

CAT Team training.

And before anyone asks, the best example I can give for what a "Cat Team" is, is a Swat Team.

So, he got the job, then? That's awesome! :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

Oh, and the abductor/adductor machines are awesome. Any "man" who thinks they're for women only obviously has never bothered to use one.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, you throw in widowmaker ATG squats on the first damn exercise!?

frickafrackinjag

[JStorm]

So, he got the job, then? That's awesome! :up:

jag

Nope. Still on the same job, just a little different responsibilities.


He is still going through the process of the other job. Actuall, his last interview was the other day. Now they've to call me for a reference. :D

[JStorm]

Haha, you throw in widowmaker ATG squats on the first damn exercise!?

frickafrackinjag



I like my balls peached colored and non-throbbing. :up:

[jaguarr]

Haha, you throw in widowmaker ATG squats on the first damn exercise!?

frickafrackinjag

You're always sayin' "Do work!". Here's your chance to actually do some. :D

Nope. Still on the same job, just a little different responsibilities.


He is still going through the process of the other job. Actuall, his last interview was the other day. Now they've to call me for a reference. :D

Haha! "Yeah, I know Devil. Haven't seen him for awhile, though. Is he still wearing mini-skirts and mascara?" :D

jag

[AndThePickles]

You're always sayin' "Do work!". Here's your chance to actually do some. :D

jag

And die a painful death in the process :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I'll be doing work in the gym, but sorry Pickleface; no work will be done on you for a month after that....unless you're willing to be on top FOREVER :(

[AndThePickles]

I'll be doing work in the gym, but sorry Pickleface; no work will be done on you for a month after that....unless you're willing to be on top FOREVER :(

:csad: :csad: :csad: :csad: :csad: :csad:

[jaguarr]

Hmmm....and I'M the old man around here, yet I'm doin' widowmaker ATG squats every week. The pussification of America continues.

jag

[AndThePickles]

I will not be denied sexy fun time, you better man up baby! :cmad:

[JStorm]

Haha! "Yeah, I know Devil. Haven't seen him for awhile, though. Is he still wearing mini-skirts and mascara?" :D

jag



:D :up:

[jaguarr]

Like Don Henley once sang, "How bad do ya want it....not bad enough!"

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I will not be denied sexy fun time, you better man up baby! :cmad:

Just for that, you're doin 'em with me!

[CyberFaust]

Just for that, you're doin 'em with me!
hhahaha! i'm loking forward to the posts after THAT workout :D
"let's have sexy fun time"
"no, can't moooove, curse you jag!"
:woot:


anyhow, cardio and chest day, good day, finished my reps and wen't home not feeling bits of me, good day :D
i'm thinking of switching from the treadmill to the eliptical, but i probably can't do 12 minutes on the eliptical like i do on the mill, and it's in the woman's section. I'm seeing the first of those two as a problem. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Can't wait to do cardio today. Going backwards on the elliptical last week really made my hammies and calves sore :up:

[IndianaJones]

Thats not too bad for 3 miles, less than 7 minutes a mile. Actually, thats good-whats your age?

I'm 19. Well, I'll be 20 in a couple weeks.

My best 3 mile run ever was 19 minutes and 18 seconds, about 6 months ago or so.

But that was at boot camp, and you have a signifcant amount more motivation there.

Plus, I weighed about 165 pounds, just bone and muscle. And I'm 6'6". My senior drill instructor had us carb loading the two weeks before, too. And you're ridiculously hydrated when you're there.

I'm trying to get closer to that time again, but it's unlikely, now that I'm trying to put on more upper body weight and muscle, and I won't EVER weigh 165 again.

Ack. I looked like a skeleton.

[Dorian Gray]

Early Morning
Jogging: 2.5 miles
Sationary Bike: 30 minutes

Later on
Circuit Training Routine followed by the Bullworker

Forearms
Barbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Overhand Barbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Dumbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Reverse Curls - 3x20
Grip[ Machine - 3x20
Eagle Catcher/Grip - 3x40

Abs
Roman Chair - 3x30
Frog Kicks - 4x as many as I could do
Side Bends 4x30
Decline Sit up Twists - 4x30
Leg Raises(weighted) - 4x20
Crunches(weighted) - 4x30

[AndThePickles]

Can't wait to do cardio today. Going backwards on the elliptical last week really made my hammies and calves sore :up:

See! And I'd been telling you for months to try that :o

[jaguarr]

Early Morning
Jogging: 2.5 miles
Sationary Bike: 30 minutes

Later on
Circuit Training Routine followed by the Bullworker

Forearms
Barbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Overhand Barbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Dumbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Reverse Curls - 3x20
Grip[ Machine - 3x20
Eagle Catcher/Grip - 3x40

Abs
Roman Chair - 3x30
Frog Kicks - 4x as many as I could do
Side Bends 4x30
Decline Sit up Twists - 4x30
Leg Raises(weighted) - 4x20
Crunches(weighted) - 4x30

How's the adjusted schedule working out for you? Looks good. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

You're always sayin' "Do work!". Here's your chance to actually do some. :D



Haha! "Yeah, I know Devil. Haven't seen him for awhile, though. Is he still wearing mini-skirts and mascara?" :D

jag

HAHA Hell!
I dont wear mascara, but miniskirts...hmm..

As far as CAT team-awesome stuff-getting to run a good bit too (distance and sprints), in fact we ran an extra mile right after lunch today because of something I screwed up on (whoops)! Anyways-today was room clearing, grenade throwing, silent communication....awesome stuff! The coolest thing is we train to be bad guys, so we can kill anyone whereas good guys have that whole great power, great responsibility thing! :woot:
Dont worry Jag, you got my vote!

[jaguarr]

HAHA Hell!
I dont wear mascara, but miniskirts...hmm..

As far as CAT team-awesome stuff-getting to run a good bit too (distance and sprints), in fact we ran an extra mile right after lunch today because of something I screwed up on (whoops)! Anyways-today was room clearing, grenade throwing, silent communication....awesome stuff! The coolest thing is we train to be bad guys, so we can kill anyone whereas good guys have that whole great power, great responsibility thing! :woot:
Dont worry Jag, you got my vote!

Right on. Is this like on a local level or Federal? Sounds cool. :up:

jag

[IndianaJones]

HAHA Hell!
I dont wear mascara, but miniskirts...hmm..

As far as CAT team-awesome stuff-getting to run a good bit too (distance and sprints), in fact we ran an extra mile right after lunch today because of something I screwed up on (whoops)! Anyways-today was room clearing, grenade throwing, silent communication....awesome stuff! The coolest thing is we train to be bad guys, so we can kill anyone whereas good guys have that whole great power, great responsibility thing! :woot:
Dont worry Jag, you got my vote!

Are you military?

If so, what branch?

[CyberFaust]

i wear a miniskirt, but not on a day-to day basis, i usually just wear it at Christmas, it drives the girls crazy, they say i have great muscular legs :D
thank you bike! :D

[mrvlknight21]

Right on. Is this like on a local level or Federal? Sounds cool. :up:

jag

No, this is private for the company I work for (guarding nuclear facility).
Indiana Jones-this should answer your question as well.

[JStorm]

As far as CAT team-awesome stuff-getting to run a good bit too (distance and sprints), in fact we ran an extra mile right after lunch today because of something I screwed up on (whoops)! Anyways-today was room clearing, grenade throwing, silent communication....awesome stuff! The coolest thing is we train to be bad guys, so we can kill anyone whereas good guys have that whole great power, great responsibility thing! :woot:
Dont worry Jag, you got my vote!

Affleck, you da bomb in Phantoms!

[mrvlknight21]

Affleck, you da bomb in Phantoms!

Hells yeah!

[JStorm]

Pull-ups, rack chins, lat pull-downs and ups, weighted superman's, what do these workouts have in common?

Do work!

Holla.

Be back later.. maybe that hot chick is working out right now. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

I hope she is working, and I hope you shart your pants during pull downs.

Hahaha :heart:

[IndianaJones]

No, this is private for the company I work for (guarding nuclear facility).
Indiana Jones-this should answer your question as well.

Good deal.:up:

[mrvlknight21]

I hope she is working, and I hope you shart your pants during pull downs.

Hahaha :heart:

Dang, thats ruthless, help the boy out, dont wish bad things on him!

[jaguarr]

Pull-ups, rack chins, lat pull-downs and ups, weighted superman's, what do these workouts have in common?

Do work!

Holla.

Be back later.. maybe that hot chick is working out right now. :D

I'd like to see some deadlifts or rack deads in that mix there, bro. Looks good otherwise. :up:

I hope she is working, and I hope you shart your pants during pull downs.

Hahaha :heart:

LOFL! Ouch.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Laughing on floor laughing!

[enterthemadness]

Whoa, who told you to do that!? :down:

Well, it all started back in high school weight lifting. We didn't always use clips. We did for maxing though. When we would do burnouts, we didn't use clips. The reason for that...well, here's an example.

Let's say some guy (not me) is doing 10+5+10+5+2.5 on the bench. You do 5 reps, then quickly take off the weight. With clips, it would take like...5-10 seconds every time to take them off, which is too much rest time for burning out. We did burnouts every now and then at the end of a day.

Some guy reminded me about using no clips. I use clips...like 98% of the time at the rec center.

Oh, yeah...our coach said so. But now I know he was wrong.

[Dorian Gray]

How's the adjusted schedule working out for you? Looks good. :up:

jag


....alot less time consuming.:up:


The all PHA system training, I'm using now has been ideal for what I was trying to accomplish through my original routine.

I keep my MA training days are the same they also have been reworked a little to fit a better more compact schedule.

[jaguarr]

....alot less time consuming.:up:


The all PHA system training, I'm using now has been ideal for what I was trying to accomplish through my original routine.

I keep my MA training days are the same they also have been reworked a little to fit a better more compact schedule.

Glad to hear that. Work smarter, not harder. :up:

jag

[JStorm]

The hot chick wasn't there. However, there was a cute chick who was doing squats, and I kinda hit on her. :D

Oh.. and the workout was great. I'sa still sweatin'.

[BRUTAL]

How do you "kind of" hit on someone?

JStorm: Hi

Cute Chick: Um...hey.

JStorm: So do you come here-:dry:

Cute Chick: "Do I come here"-what?...

JStorm: :dry:

Cute Chick: Are you ok?

JStorm: :dry:

Cute Chick: Oookay... *walks away*

JStorm: :dry:... *fart*

JStorm: :ninja:

[Colossal Spoons]

*fart*

Hahahaha

[BRUTAL]

I laughed entirely too hard when I wrote that...

[Colossal Spoons]

You need a Cheddar Bay Biscuit?

[BRUTAL]

No one needs a Cheddar Bay Biscuit...

[Colossal Spoons]

True :(

[jaguarr]

BRUTHOLE, I'ma have your program ready for you tomorrow. It's turning out really good. I may make it available to everyone. :up:

jag

[BRUTAL]

BRUTHOLE, I'ma have your program ready for you tomorrow. It's turning out really good. I may make it available to everyone. :up:

jag

Cool man... did you include the diet I'm on and everything or no?

[jaguarr]

Cool man... did you include the diet I'm on and everything or no?


I'm covering standard diet and macronutrients and supplementation, yes. I'm not covering your cleansing diet you've been on. That's your own thang, holmes.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah Jag, Brutal the Barber Beefcake needs one Red Lobster Cheddar Bay Biscuit a week to maintain regular bowel movements :up:

[jaguarr]

Yeah Jag, Brutal the Barber Beefcake needs one Red Lobster Cheddar Bay Biscuit a week to maintain regular bowel movements :up:

That sounds like a good way to guarantee you DON'T have regular bowel movements. You're the guy who used to poop once a month until I told you to friggin' EAT, so maybe you ought to just sit this one out, champ. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Whatever, I'm a Poopasaurus Rex these days :o

[BRUTAL]

That sounds like a good way to guarantee you DON'T have regular bowel movements. You're the guy who used to poop once a month until I told you to friggin' EAT, so maybe you ought to just sit this one out, champ. :up:

jag

jagowned...

[jaguarr]

I'ma go DO WORK! Later!

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

jagowned...

psh, it was all part of my plan to make weight for the wrestling team :(

[BRUTAL]

Pooping once a month doesn't sound like the best way to do that.

[Colossal Spoons]

It got me to the 2003 Olympics, didn't it? :cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

How do you "kind of" hit on someone?

JStorm: Hi

Cute Chick: Um...hey.

JStorm: So do you come here-:dry:

Cute Chick: "Do I come here"-what?...

JStorm: :dry:

Cute Chick: Are you ok?

JStorm: :dry:

Cute Chick: Oookay... *walks away*

JStorm: :dry:... *fart*

JStorm: :ninja:

Funny, but the truth is he doesnt give a $h!t when it comes to talking to anyone.

[enterthemadness]

It got me to the 2003 Olympics, didn't it? :cmad:

Surely you jest. If not, tell us this wonderful story.

For dinner I had a homemade burrito. It was one piece of chicken...and a banana. Anyone tried this before? It tastes good and sweet.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, so I'm 17 and trying to qualify for the 2003 Olympics. I knew I could take most of the guys in my weight class, considering how badly I owned everybody at my high school. I made a kid cry on time and run into the stand to his mother, true story. Anyway, at the time I weighed a measly 185lbs and I wanted to get into the 200lbs weight class. 15lbs is a heap of weight to put on in a few months, so I decided to try something nobody else had done.....not poop. I ate and ate and held it all in. "How did you not poop, Spoons?" you may be wondering. With the help of a nifty invention called the manpon. What may look like a stack of napkins folded up was actually a scientifically proven way to up your weight in a pinch(pun unintended ;))

Long story short, after 6 months of not poopin, I packed on 15lbs and got to eat whatever I wanted. Too bad I lost at the Olympics :(

[enterthemadness]

Ok, so I'm 17 and trying to qualify for the 2003 Olympics. I knew I could take most of the guys in my weight class, considering how badly I owned everybody at my high school. I made a kid cry on time and run into the stand to his mother, true story. Anyway, at the time I weighed a measly 185lbs and I wanted to get into the 200lbs weight class. 15lbs is a heap of weight to put on in a few months, so I decided to try something nobody else had done.....not poop. I ate and ate and held it all in. "How did you not poop, Spoons?" you may be wondering. With the help of a nifty invention called the manpon. What may look like a stack of napkins folded up was actually a scientifically proven way to up your weight in a pinch(pun unintended ;))

Long story short, after 6 months of not poopin, I packed on 15lbs and got to eat whatever I wanted. Too bad I lost at the Olympics :(


.........:dry:

[Colossal Spoons]

Jealous? :o

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4058/picture002jb1.jpg

[enterthemadness]

Jealous? :o

:dry: let me get this straight. You shoved a wad of paper up..."there"...and that's how you stopped pooping? Oh boy, I am so jealous right now. :whatever:

[Colossal Spoons]

Not of the manpon dummy, of my willpower and dedication.

[AndThePickles]

Whatever, I'm a Poopasaurus Rex these days :o

Ugh, unfortunately. :csad:

Stop spreadin lies to poor ETM dear.

[Colossal Spoons]

This was before I met you, nonbeliever.

[jaguarr]

This thread got SERIOUSLY f**ked up while I was out doin' work. *shakin' my head at Spoons*

jag

[enterthemadness]

Not of the manpon dummy, of my willpower and dedication.

If it was willpower and dedication,...then why would you shove a wad of paper up there?

Also, you could have simply ate clean and lifted weights to put on the weight.

[Colossal Spoons]

Since when do you "smh"? Jplaya, that you?

[jaguarr]

You got sonned by yo' own fiya, son. smh.

jag

[AndThePickles]

This was before I met you, nonbeliever.

Shame on you baby, for SHAME!

[Colossal Spoons]

If it was willpower and dedication,...then why would you shove a wad of paper up there?

Also, you could have simply ate clean and lifted weights to put on the weight.

Ya know, it's funny. We hear about all the harmful ways wrestlers lose weight(running with a trashbag around them, looong sauna sessions), but I wonder what crappy ways they use to put lbs on?

[enterthemadness]

You got sonned by yo' own fiya, son. smh.

jag

The hell? Is...that even English?

Ya know, it's funny. We hear about all the harmful ways wrestlers lose weight(running with a trashbag around them, looong sauna sessions), but I wonder what crappy ways they use to put lbs on?

We? Never heard/read of this until now.

[Colossal Spoons]

Really? Wrestlers are some of the worst when it comes to changing their weight at the last minute. Boxers too :down:

[jaguarr]

As a former wrestler I can tell you that wrestlers do some horrid things to their bodies to make weight, and that includes both dropping weight and putting it on.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

How do you add it crappily? Besides the obvious diet consisting of only Cheddar Bay Biscuits.

[jaguarr]

How do you add it crappily? Besides the obvious diet consisting of only Cheddar Bay Biscuits.

When I wanted to add weight, it was potatoes. Lots and lots of potatoes. :(

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Hmmm, interesting.

[sassycat]

what are your goals for getting in shape?

My goal is to drop to my ideal weight for my BMI which is 150, (I am so not there now :( ) , with a combination of sensible eating and exercise at the gym, pool and walking, I'd also like to start jogging/running when I lose the appropriate amount of weight to do so safely. :)

Question:

is it really true if you have a certin body shape/type, that I have to do certian things weather it be diet or exercises to avoid, to get the results I want? I have an hourglass/pear thing going on now. I like my curves and all, but my health (and my clothing wallet) is my focus now and I'm really tired of being bothered by lot of Sir-Mix-A-Lot fans! :O :csad:

[Dorian Gray]

Ya know, it's funny. We hear about all the harmful ways wrestlers lose weight(running with a trashbag around them, looong sauna sessions), but I wonder what crappy ways they use to put lbs on?


Weight Gain Powders:huh:

[Babs Gordon]

My goal is to drop to my ideal weight for my BMI which is 150, (I am so not there now :( ) , with a combination of sensible eating and exercise at the gym, pool and walking, I'd also like to start jogging/running when I lose the appropriate amount of weight to do so safely. :)

Question:

is it really true if you have a certin body shape/type, that I have to do certian things weather it be diet or exercises to avoid, to get the results I want? I have an hourglass/pear thing going on now. I like my curves and all, but my health (and my clothing wallet) is my focus now and I'm really tired of being bothered by lot of Sir-Mix-A-Lot fans! :O :csad:

I hear ya Sassycat! I'm pretty curvy too and most people are really surprised when I tell them I weigh 150 right now. See! (http://a622.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00832/12/65/832695621_l.jpg) I learned at a health fair back in college that I have a "large" skeleton and that it weighs a lot more. My goal is to be 130 and I'm really wondering if that's even possible. I'm already in good shape and with working out I'm dropping fat but gaining muscle mass. We'll see what happens.

I think though that we need to embrace the parts of ourselves that our destined to be... err... bigger. Like rear-ends. Even if you drop a lot of fat you may not be able to shrink your rear.

[JStorm]

How do you "kind of" hit on someone?

JStorm: Hi

Cute Chick: Um...hey.

JStorm: So do you come here-:dry:

Cute Chick: "Do I come here"-what?...

JStorm: :dry:

Cute Chick: Are you ok?

JStorm: :dry:

Cute Chick: Oookay... *walks away*

JStorm: :dry:... *fart*

JStorm: :ninja:

If I could only make this my sig.

You know what.. screw it!! This is funny stuff!

Edit: I had to edit some of the sig. But the idea is still there! :up:

[CyberFaust]

goooood back shoulder and abbs workout today
and i am quite proud of myself cause, do to my "big wheights low reps" routine, i lift more than the big guys at the gym, well, more than some of the big guys :D
especially lower back and abbs
i really need to lose about a inch or so depth of fat from my lower 4 6-pack to really have a six pack :( ....it's hiding

[JStorm]

I doing chest today.

Also, the girl I "kind of" hit on yesterday is suppose to help me with legs.

Atleast, that was she thinks.

[TheCaptain22555]

Here's a question

I definately have a six pack, but it's covered by a little bit of stubborn fat
How do I get rid of that?
I'm in the same boat, I've gotten rid of some of the fat by changing my eating habits and what I eat on a normal basis, though I want muscle too so I keep working out. I definitely run more than working out though.

[Dorian Gray]

Did Work

Early Morning
Finger Push Ups(all fingers, both hands) - 10
Finger Push Ups(fore finger and thumb, both hands) - 10
Sil Lum Tao Form
Sationary Bike - 1 hr

Later On
Skip Rope - 5 Minutes(1 minute rest) all footwork
Shadow Kick-Boxing - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest)
Shadow Boxing w/ 1lb weights- 3 minutes(1 minute rest)
Heavy Bag - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest) Individual Stikes and Combinations
Heavy bag - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest) Kicks
Speed Bag - 3 minutes(1 minute rest)
Makiwara Board - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest) Rolling Vertial Punches

rest

Punches with 10lb weights(as many as I could.)
Jab
Cross
Hook
Uppercut
Rolling Vertical Punches


Later Tonight - Martial Arts

[BRUTAL]

Hey Jag... where's my program?

[jaguarr]

Hey Jag... where's my program?


I'll have it for you a little bit later. I don't have what I need to completely strip all the personal information out of the file here on this system, so it will have to wait until I get home. It's written, though. :up:

jag

[BRUTAL]

Shweet...

[BRUTAL]

Ladies and gentlemen... I give you.... the 8 minute lag: double post...

I am growing kind of sick of this, I can't wait until my site is up so I don't have to deal with this anymore.

[enterthemadness]

I'm in the same boat, I've gotten rid of some of the fat by changing my eating habits and what I eat on a normal basis, though I want muscle too so I keep working out. I definitely run more than working out though.

Me too. I hate running though, even though I wear running shoes all the time (so comfortable.). Guess I have to start running again 3 days a week on my workout days (not tonight though, but on Friday in the morning.)

[kytrigger]

edit...damn hype

[kytrigger]

Ok, so I'm 17 and trying to qualify for the 2003 Olympics. I knew I could take most of the guys in my weight class, considering how badly I owned everybody at my high school. I made a kid cry on time and run into the stand to his mother, true story. Anyway, at the time I weighed a measly 185lbs and I wanted to get into the 200lbs weight class. 15lbs is a heap of weight to put on in a few months, so I decided to try something nobody else had done.....not poop. I ate and ate and held it all in. "How did you not poop, Spoons?" you may be wondering. With the help of a nifty invention called the manpon. What may look like a stack of napkins folded up was actually a scientifically proven way to up your weight in a pinch(pun unintended ;))

Long story short, after 6 months of not poopin, I packed on 15lbs and got to eat whatever I wanted. Too bad I lost at the Olympics :(
So, was tis for wrestling or boxing?
When I wanted to add weight, it was potatoes. Lots and lots of potatoes. :(

jaghaha...i used to do that too. That and about 2 minutes before weighing in, I would chug as much water/gatorade as humanly possible into myself, weigh in, and then go throw up like a ****ing geyser. Good times

[punishermax]

Had a good chest/bi workout last night. There were only a couple of other people at the gym, so I superset all night, which was nice, I got out of there about 20 minutes earlier than when I have to wait. Got cardio and abs today, I'm going to kick up my abdominal workout a bit, as I think they are getting used to what I'm doing, time to trick the bastards.

[JStorm]

Thursday.

Bi's and tri's.
Cardio: Two mile jog.
And a softball game around sixish.

[Babs Gordon]

Today is quite possibly my 'skinniest' day yet. My clothes are starting to fit differently even though the scale hasn't changed :up:. This is so rad. It's only fuel for my motivation fire. ;)

[JStorm]

If you are building muscle, Babsy, you will retain a bit of your weight while losing inches else where.

Keep up the good work.. nothing steals my heart more than a red head who loves comics and is a fitness freak. ;)

:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

So, was tis for wrestling or boxing?

Wrestling. My team kicked ass. We were "Team JustmessingwithETM" :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Today is quite possibly my 'skinniest' day yet. My clothes are starting to fit differently even though the scale hasn't changed :up:. This is so rad. It's only fuel for my motivation fire. ;)

Damn good job Babs! :up:

[Babs Gordon]

I'm not weight training really hardcore right now but I am running, speedwalking and spinning... those are undoubtedly building muscle everywhere. It could also be that my metabolism is slow to get the ball rolling. I figure give it another week or two and the bits of fat will start coming of pretty consistently. That's how my body has worked in the past.

[JStorm]

Babs DOES WORK!

I love it. :up:

Gotta run. Be back later.

[kytrigger]

Wrestling. My team kicked ass. We were "Team JustmessingwithETM" :D
well the good news is if you mess with him too much and he starts to cry, you can always give him a tissue from your ass :up:

[JStorm]

Wrestling is for girls.

[Super Kal]

now down to 278... very happy :D

next time I post in here will be when I hit 270

[kytrigger]

Wrestling is for girls.
:cmad:

[BRUTAL]

Did my first, jag-advised work last night... Shoulders/Legs/Abs... hatin' life this morning but glad to be back in the game.

[AndThePickles]

Today is quite possibly my 'skinniest' day yet. My clothes are starting to fit differently even though the scale hasn't changed :up:. This is so rad. It's only fuel for my motivation fire. ;)

Yay, congrats!! Isn't it exciting when you can see changes in your clothes? I'm trying to gain weight and a lot of my clothes are too tight on me now, or they fit me much better. I think it's a great way to actually "notice" changes! :yay:

[jaguarr]

well the good news is if you mess with him too much and he starts to cry, you can always give him a tissue from your ass :up:

LOFL! That's classic! :D

Did my first, jag-advised work last night... Shoulders/Legs/Abs... hatin' life this morning but glad to be back in the game.

How'd it go? What did you think of the program I drew up for you? Think others might benefit from it? If you did those ATG Squats as advised, I can guarantee that tomorrow will be worse for you soreness wise. Something to look forward to for you, there. :D Do your cardio tonight and stretch out good and thorough afterwards and that should help. Especially if you're keeping your water intake up as instructed. The good news is that I'm hitting legs/shoulders tonight so I'll be good and sore tomorrow myself.

jag

[BRUTAL]

How'd it go? What did you think of the program I drew up for you? Think others might benefit from it? If you did those ATG Squats as advised, I can guarantee that tomorrow will be worse for you soreness wise. Something to look forward to for you, there. :D Do your cardio tonight and stretch out good and thorough afterwards and that should help. Especially if you're keeping your water intake up as instructed. The good news is that I'm hitting legs/shoulders tonight so I'll be good and sore tomorrow myself.

jag

Went well, I think others would benefit from it if they choose the same 3 day lifting routine as me. Cardio is planned for tonight as is some Whey purchasing for post workout consumption. I also need a good protein shake... suggestions.

[jaguarr]

Went well, I think others would benefit from it if they choose the same 3 day lifting routine as me. Cardio is planned for tonight as is some Whey purchasing for post workout consumption. I also need a good protein shake... suggestions.

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Double Chocolate flavor. :up: I highly recommend the bodybuilding.com store for price and service, by the way. Glad the workout went well. The workout is just icing on the cake. The real gold in what I wrote up is the some of the other stuff like basic principles behind achieving your goals, diet, supplementation, etc.

This is what I wrote up for Brutal, in case anyone else might be interested (http://jaguarr.spymac.com/BBbasics.htm).

jag

[BRUTAL]

Very comprehensive, GREAT review for anyone looking to get back in the game after an extended absence. I loved it.

[jaguarr]

Very comprehensive, GREAT review for anyone looking to get back in the game after an extended absence. I loved it.

I tried to make it a good primer for the beginner to intermediate lifter. I think I'll keep tweaking it as time goes on to tighten it up, add new information, address FAQ's and just make it all around better.

jag

[CyberFaust]

thanks jag, it helps a bunch

[jaguarr]

thanks jag, it helps a bunch

Glad to hear that. If there's anything that you'd like to see addressed in it that I didn't cover, let me know. And, if anything doesn't make very much sense or could be phrased better, let me know. What I tried to capture with this is all the basic, fundamental stuff that I never see really written out in a simple and easy to understand fashion. When I first really started getting back into lifting a couple years ago, I was starting from scratch and spent a lot of time on various lifting-oriented message boards reading and asking questions, as well as hunting down different articles. If I'd had something like this to start with, I would have saved myself at least a year's worth of flailing about and doing certain things inefficiently like I'd learned to do in high school and college. So, usability and understandability are the two main concerns I have with this running article.

jag

[BRUTAL]

How about some natural post-workout nutrition?

[jaguarr]

How about some natural post-workout nutrition?


Not sure I follow. I think I mapped out the post-workout whey (and WMS or maltodextrin if you're so inclined) and specified having a full, balanced meal after that. What could I add or tweak to make that more easily followed?

jag

[BRUTAL]

I mean like natural foods, not supplements. Fruits, veg, rice, meat, etc.

[jaguarr]

I mean like natural foods, not supplements. Fruits, veg, rice, meat, etc.

Those are the things you want to get in your post-workout MEAL. When you first get done with your workout, though, your muscles are basically distressed and starving for nutrients. That's where a good whey supplement comes into play, because it's very quickly absorbed into the bloodstream and subsequently into the muscles where it can almost immediately start aiding in the repair and recovery process. More solid foods do not digest and absorb into the bloodstream nearly quickly enough to be relevant to your immediate post-workout needs like whey protein does. Think of PWO nutrition in stages:

Immediately: Whey protein to send nutrients to the muscles as fast as possible when they need it the most (the WMS protocol can be a step prior to this if you're following it).

Secondary: This is the full, balanced meal you would eat maybe 60 minutes after you've had your whey. The whey has had a chance to absorb and be utilized by the muscles a bit and by the time your food starts to digest and send nutrients into the bloodstream after you eat this regular meal, your muscles will be ready for the next round of nutrition.

I'll look at the article and see how I can make it read a little cleaner on this subject. :up:

jag

[CyberFaust]

well, the nutrition helped out a heck of a lot, i just finished my schedule thanks mostly to that because i was still a bit confused about some foods
i had made a workout program already, here it is, i don't know if i posted it:
Monday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Tuesday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps
Wednesday: ower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Thursday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps
Friday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Saturday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps
Sunday: Rest Day
now, what do i do for each group:
chest: butterfly: 3 reps; Machine Bench Press 3 reps
shoulders: shoulder press, on the machine 3 reps ; dumbbell thing where i lean on a wall and with my arm extended bring it up and down on the side, 3 reps
lower back: there's this machine, i donno what it's called so i'll describe it, it's like a chair with a small back and handles, and basicly i must push back until i'm horizontal, i can do preety big wheights on that, 3-4 sets
upper back: rowing machine 3 sets, pulldowns 3 sets, until now i did them to the back of my neck, from now on i'll do them in front though, and some lying on the bench thing i read about in mens health where i take a dumbbell and swing it around, i'll see if i can find a link
abbs: i just do simple abb exercises on the machine, 3 reps i ghess i need diversity here, so recomandations would help :)
triceps: triceps curls and some cable thingy i pull down on3 reps
biceps: curls 3reps on the machine.

for cardio i usually use the treadmill for 2Km but today it was easy so tomorow i'll probably try 2.5km if i can't cut it i'll go back to 2 and try starting next week :)
well, any opinions would help

[jaguarr]

Why only three reps of each exercise? Unless you're training for powerlifting, that's not enough. I'd bump that up to 6 reps at least.

jag

[BRUTAL]

He has to mean "sets"

[CyberFaust]

Why only three reps of each exercise? Unless you're training for powerlifting, that's not enough. I'd bump that up to 6 reps at least.

jag
well util now i was using the biggest weights i could do 3 reps with
i'll probably cutt it down a notch for 6, but i'll work that way from now on :)

[CyberFaust]

He has to mean "sets"
i think i do :D
i am now down with the lingo ya'll :D
i'm doing3 sets of 12 reps then :D

[jaguarr]

i think i do :D
i am now down with the lingo ya'll :D
i'm doing3 sets of 12 reps then :D

Ahhh...okay....three sets of 12 is fine. I thought you meant you'd pick up the weight, do three repetitions of the exercise and then put the weight down and call that a set. That wouldn't be enough reps.

jag

[CyberFaust]

Ahhh...okay....three sets of 12 is fine. I thought you meant you'd pick up the weight, do three repetitions of the exercise and then put the weight down and call that a set. That wouldn't be enough reps.

jag
if i can pick something up only 3 times, i probably can't pick it up at all and would brake myself in horrible ways trying

anything else? :hyper:

[jaguarr]

if i can pick something up only 3 times, i probably can't pick it up at all and would brake myself in horrible ways trying

anything else? :hyper:

Yeah, you're basically hitting every muscle group three times a week, which is too much. You never get a chance to fully recover. Once is plenty if you do it with enough weight and intensity, though you can twice a week if you recover VERY fast. You're basically overtraining in a big way. You'd get better gains by cutting it back.

jag

[CyberFaust]

Yeah, you're basically hitting every muscle group three times a week, which is too much. You never get a chance to fully recover. Once is plenty if you do it with enough weight and intensity, though you can twice a week if you recover VERY fast. You're basically overtraining in a big way. You'd get better gains by cutting it back.

jag
well, reading this thread i came across something about 3 times a week for a group being the maximum whitout overtraining (a thought tickles my brain for a couple of days, instread of using the word overtraining i'll use the word batmaning, i hope to get it into normal lingo in a war or two because i like how it sounds and i might've come across it a couple of times as batman overtraining in this thread when refering to some posters)
i guess i recover since in after a day's break i can hit it just as hard, but i'm sure that's probably not the standart to go by
my cardio is somewhat short as i seem to last 3 minutes on the step thing and about 5-8 on the eliptical so i chess i'm compensating with this.
if recovery has anything to do with my metabolical rate then i guess i recover verry fast, if not then i dunno
should i do it 2 times a week for every group(but then i'll hit it extra hard because it's a important thing for me at this point) and leave it at that? and is this massive overtraining or jsut a moderate amount?
and, should i do more cardio because i really need to lose fat on my abbs?, but i wouldn't want to affect my muscle gain while doing it

i know i must sound like some hiperactive noob or something in that ballpark

[jaguarr]

well, reading this thread i came across something about 3 times a week for a group being the maximum whitout overtraining (a thought tickles my brain for a couple of days, instread of using the word overtraining i'll use the word batmaning, i hope to get it into normal lingo in a war or two because i like how it sounds and i might've come across it a couple of times as batman overtraining in this thread when refering to some posters)
i guess i recover since in after a day's break i can hit it just as hard, but i'm sure that's probably not the standart to go by
my cardio is somewhat short as i seem to last 3 minutes on the step thing and about 5-8 on the eliptical so i chess i'm compensating with this.
if recovery has anything to do with my metabolical rate then i guess i recover verry fast, if not then i dunno
should i do it 2 times a week for every group(but then i'll hit it extra hard because it's a important thing for me at this point) and leave it at that? and is this massive overtraining or jsut a moderate amount?
and, should i do more cardio because i really need to lose fat on my abbs?, but i wouldn't want to affect my muscle gain while doing it

i know i must sound like some hiperactive noob or something in that ballpark

The point is that, by doing it three times a week, you aren't hitting it as absolutely hard as you possibly can every time you hit those muscle groups because you're still fatigued from the last time you hit them. Try bumping it back to twice a week and give yourself at LEAST three days of recovery time before hitting that muscle group again. Three times a week is way too many, IMHO.

jag

[CyberFaust]

can do

[Dorian Gray]

Ealry Morning
Jogging - 2 miles
Finger Push Ups(all fingers, each individual hand) - 10
Finger Push Ups(fore Finger and thumb, both hands) - 10

Later on
Circuit Training followed by Bullworker
Elliptical - 30 minutes

Abs
V-ups - 3x50
Decline Situps(weighted) 3x30
Leg Raises(weighted) 3x20
Side Bends - 3x20
Crossovers - 3x30

Forearms (grip)
Eagle Catcher
Grip Machine
Hand Grips


..damn Cyrberfaust even I didn't lift all week:cwink: I mabye be a cardio/endurance fanatic but damn lifting 6 days a week.:oldrazz:

[Iceman]

CyberFaust Vs Dorian Gray for Overtrainer of the year 2007 :up: :woot:

[CyberFaust]

i..went into panic mode :(
here's the new one:

Monday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Tuesday: rest day
Wednesday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps
Thursday: rest day
Friday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Saturday: rest day
Sunday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps

i think that should do it i guess

[Iceman]

i..went into panic mode :(
here's the new one:

Monday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Tuesday: rest day
Wednesday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps
Thursday: rest day
Friday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Saturday: rest day
Sunday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps

i think that should do it i guessDo you train legs?

[CyberFaust]

Do you train legs?
i do not, i have great legs as they are thanks to my bike, as faar as legs are concerned i'm exactly where i want to be

[jaguarr]

Do you train legs?

I don't know why I didn't catch that before. That's what happens when I'm on conference calls at work AND reading the boards.

i do not, i have great legs as they are thanks to my bike, as faar as legs are concerned i'm exactly where i want to be

The benefits of working your lower body are numerous (boosts testosterone production, spurs balance and growth among all body parts, and improves load-bearing ability, among many other things). You should really consider adding some leg work to your routine.

jag