The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[Dorian Gray]

i..went into panic mode :(
here's the new one:

Monday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Tuesday: rest day
Wednesday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps
Thursday: rest day
Friday: lower and upper back, abbs, triceps
Saturday: rest day
Sunday: cardio, chest shoulders and biceps

i think that should do it i guess



2 or 3 times a week is fine for lifting days..

When I would lift tradtionally before using the PHA system I would do it like this....

Tueday
Chest
Triceps
Shoulders
Abs

Thursday
Back
Biceps
Forearms
Abs

Saturday
Legs
Abs

You can even combine legs on you back/biceps/forearm days if you only want to hit the gym 2 days a week for lifting.

[Dorian Gray]

I don't know why I didn't catch that before. That's what happens when I'm on conference calls at work AND reading the boards.



The benefits of working your lower body are numerous (boosts testosterone production, spurs balance and growth among all body parts, and improves load-bearing ability, among many other things). You should really consider adding some leg work to your routine.

jag


You know what popped in my head jsut now thining about Cyber's lack of leg work...that skit from SNL with the bodybuilders with tiny legs.:woot:

[CyberFaust]

well then i guess i'll add 2 leg days...and i still end up with 6 a week
i just have to figure out what to do with them

[jaguarr]

You know what popped in my head jsut now thining about Cyber's lack of leg work...that skit from SNL with the bodybuilders with tiny legs.:woot:

Haha! Yeah, the one with Emilio Estevez. I WISH I could find the damn video for that, but this is the transcript:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/pics/93rbench1.jpg
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/pics/93rbench2.jpg


How Much Ya Bench?

Frankie Genovese.....Emilio Estevez
Steroid User #1.....Adam Sandler
Steroid User #2.....Chris Farley
Steroid User #3.....David Spade
Steroid User #4.....Jay Mohr
Caller #1.....
Caller #2.....Mike Myers
Caller #3.....
Charlie Sheen.....

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/line.jpg
[open on panelists with theme music and title: "How Much Ya Bench?"]

[all panelists have heavily overdeveloped upper bodies]

Announcer: And now it's time for "How Much Ya Bench," with your host, Frankie Genovese.

[title is removed]

Frankie: Hello, and welcome to "How Much Ya Bench," the show dedicated to body building and a steroid-free power lifting experience. I think you know our panelists, especially if you are a Perth Amboy local, in which case you would also know that we enjoy a lifting experience that's completely free of steroid influence.

[other panelists agree while the shot widens to show that the panelists' legs are comically underdeveloped]

Frankie: Before we go to the phones, let's start off with a regular segment on "How Much Ya Bench?" called Movie Talk. This is where we have a steroid-free discussion of the movies. Tonight's topic: Hollywood's hot new actors and how much we want to kick their heads in. First up: Brad Pitt. He's becoming a big star. Do we like it?

Steroid User #1: My girl thinks he's really cute. And she says he was really good in "Thelma and Louise." So to be quite honest, I'd like to give him a savage beating. The kind of beating where the cops would say, "What kind of animal would do this to another human being?"

[other panelists agree with shouts and grunts]

Steroid User #2: Yeah! Brad Pitt needs a beatin'! He needs a beatin' Fast! I swear to God, I am not in the mood for him, ever!

Frankie: To sum up, I guess Brad Pitt gets a beatin'. Next up: Richard Grieco. The heat has faded, but he seems to still have that certain look on his face that needs to be wiped off. Agree?

Steroid User #1: Oh, my God, yes. I want to boot him so hard in the adam's apple it comes shooting out his mouth. Holy lord, when I used to watch him on "21 Jump Street," he would make me so angry it was like I was on steroids or something. That's how angry he made me.

Steroid User #2: Hey, Grieco, what's behind you? It's your worst nightmare, mister. Mr. Big-Time Beatin'! [punctuates the following with hand/arm gestures] Wham! Bam! Slam! Throat punch! Down you go! Oh, but it continues! Bam, bam, bam! Wham! When's it ever gonna stop?! Survey says: Not very soon!

[other panelists agree with shouts and grunts]

Steroid User #3: I can't follow his energy. However, I'd like to stress two things. Brad Pitt needs a beatin', and I'm not on steroids.

Steroid User #1: Very nice.

Steroid User #2: All right, yeah.

Steroid User #3: Mr. Pitt, if I ever see you, I'll give you so many rights, you'll be begging for lefts!

[other panelists agree with shouts and grunts]

Frankie: A beatin' all around. All right, finally: Charlie Sheen. Thoughts.

Steroid User #1: He's cool.

Steroid User #2: I like his work.

Steroid User #3: Laughed my ass off at "Hot Shots Part Deux."

Steroid User #4: Yeah, you know what? I'm on the fence. I could go either way with him.

Frankie: Shut up, gentlemen! The man needs a beatin'! He needs a good old-fashioned James Caan, "Godfather," garbage can involved monster beatin'!

[other panelists agree with shouts and grunts]

Frankie: All right. And let me say that what you've just seen was a display of normal male envy and agression, and in no way was the consequence of steroid abuse. Stay off the juice! The side effects aren't worth it. All right, before we take calls, I think someone here has an announcement to make.

Steroid User #1: Indeed I do. Just this last Friday at 2:23pm, I was benching and I put up 350 pounds.

[other panelists cheer him on with shouts and grunts]

Steroid User #2: You! You! Yeah! All right! You did it totally without the aid of steroids! Or steroid byproducts! You must be amped man! 350! Let's see that rip!

[Steroid User #1 flexes and turns, showing that his back is extremely hairy]

Steroid User #1: And I'm not even oiled up, gentlemen!

Frankie: Well, it's my guess we lost a few callers with that one. I'd like to thank those of you that hung in there. So let's get to your calls. Caller, you're on. How much ya bench?

Caller #1: 255. Steroid-free, just like you guys.

[panelists make girly ding-a-ling]

Steroid User #3: Tinkerbell! Tinkerbell! 255?! You calling to brag about that?! Anything else you want to brag about? Maybe how you got great seats for "Phantom of the Opera?"

Steroid User #2: Yeah! Or maybe how you got great seats for...some other queer play.

Steroid User #4: Now hang up the phone, all right, because there's a lot of other guys at the gay bar who need to use it, all right, you selfish bastard. God! I'm not on steroids!

Frankie: Okay, next caller. You're on the air. How much ya bench?

Caller #2: Hey, I don't really work out, okay. My question is for Steroid User #2.

Frankie: Hey, hey, hey, there's no one here on steroids, nancy-boy.

Caller #2: Uh, yeah. Steroid User #2. Could you tell me why your legs are so thin?

Steroid User #2: That's because I generally don't like to kick guys like you into a coma! I like to hear your bones snap under my fists!

Caller #2: Let me ask one more question. How do you guys ever get girls? I mean, do you have to hypnotize them or something?

Steroid User #4: Oh, no, no, no. You do.

[other panelists agree with shouts and grunts]

Steroid User #1: Hang up the phone, nancy-boy! Save your money for when you call 1-900-MAKE-OUT-WITH-A-GUY.

Frankie: All right, next caller. You're on. How much ya bench?

Charlie Sheen: Hey, steroid-boy. This is Charlie Sheen. You want a piece of me?

Frankie: Yeah! Where you at, pretty boy?

Charlie Sheen: You know where I live, Emilio. I'll be right here.

Frankie: Hey, Charlie. Come on, it's just a sketch.

Charlie Sheen: Oh, yeah? Well it's just a beatin'! Get ready for it! [hangs up]

Frankie: Oh, ah, um, next caller. How much ya bench?

Caller #3: Uh, not a tremendous amount. Hey, I lost a dog, and I was wondering if I could describe him in case a viewer has seen his.

Frankie: You got it, alpha woman. What's this poodle look like?

Caller #3: No, it's not a poodle. I don't know what kind it is, but I know it's definitely on steroids. It's real buff, with little stick-legs. And it's got this weird forehead, real hairy back and shoulders with tons of zits. It goes through crazy mood swings, and it answers to "loser."

Steroid User #4: Oh, my God, Frankie! There ain't no dog! This guy's referring to us! Oh, I can't stand it! Oh, my God! I want a piece of this guy! Oh, God, please, God, I gotta give this guy a beatin'! [sobs]

Steroid User #2: You will pay, nancy-boy! Oh, it's coming! You hear me?! [with arms and legs flailing] Oh, God, you are gonna pay! One sorry nancy-boy!

Frankie: We're gonna find out where you live, and you're dead! Everybody else, tune in next week to "How Much Ya Bench?"

[dissolve to advertizement screen]

Announcer: "How Much Ya Bench?" has been brought to you by Jim Tischer's Anabolic Steroids. For when you want big mass and got no time. Turn to the juice. Jim Tischer's juice.

[dissolve to panelists with theme song and title: "How Much Ya Bench?"]

[fade to black]




Haha! :D
jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Hmmm....give this a try:

ATG Squats: Warmup Weight 1 x 10, Warmup Weight 2 x 10, Working Weight 1 x 10, Working Weight 2 (add more weight) x 10, Working Weight 3 (add more weight) x 10, Widowmaker set of 20 reps at a weight you can just barely manage completing all 20 reps without re-racking the weight. Keep a bucket handy because you may feel like throwing up.

Got up to the widowmakers and feared for my legs. I'll get them in next time I try this, for sure.

Free-Standing BB Calf Raises - These are simple. Put a couple of plates for you to stand on your tippy toes in the squat rack. Shoulder the bar just like you were going to do squats. Now get those toes up on the plates and crank out three sets of 20, free-standing in the cage. Feel your isolator muscles and calves screaming. Alternately, weighted Donkey Calf Raises

Whooo. I was thinkin at first "Why not put some weight on the bar"....wrong! When I got to the 16th rep of the first set, muscles in my calf started to burn that I didn't know existed. :up:

Super Set
Leg Extensions
Leg Curls

Move between each of these without any rest. Three sets of ten.

I these would be the easiest...wrong! These killed my quads and hammies. Sunova! :up:

Throw in shoulders after that if you're able to. Have fun cursing me the next three days. :D

jag[/QUOTE]

I was only able to do reverse flys and shrugs before having to leave the gym b/c I was already there for too long. Thanks a lot Jag, my legs def got a shock yesterday. Cardio should be fun in a few hours lol.

[CyberFaust]

they are right about brad pitt!

[jaguarr]

Glad it went well, Spoons! NOW you're doin' work! :up:

And Brad Pitt needs a beating! :cmad:

jag

[jaguarr]

Mmmm....did some serious work on my legs and shoulders tonight. Widowmakers! Yum! Gonna be walking funny tomorrow! :up:

jag

[kytrigger]

Did work this morning.

Even though I pretty much hate cardio anyway, I REALLY hate it after a legs day.

But the good news is that this week I have averaged a loss of 3-5 lbs of sweat during my cardio. Sure I gain most of it back when I drink water, but it's a good measurement of intensity.

[Colossal Spoons]

I weighed myself a few days ago, and I'd lost 5.5 lbs. Cutting calories is finally payin off.

[Dorian Gray]

CyberFaust Vs Dorian Gray for Overtrainer of the year 2007 :up: :woot:

CyberFaust has me beat...:woot:
Like I said before it's my cardio/endurance and martial arts training that gets questioned, never my lifting. I've always kept lifting days to 2 or 3 times a week..

With my new Personal Trainer advised PHA System lifting program I actually cut my time for cardio/endurance training. I still like wailing on the heavy bag, speed bag, various target pads, practicing my forms, techniques and so forth on my off days. But it's all been cut in half...my last interval training program was only 23 minutes..

My training is actualy a healthy medium now....

[CyberFaust]

yay! i win :D
who's tthe man? who's the man?
:(




here's a good question for you guys, so, i was reding labels at the supermarket today, yada yada yada...and when i look at calories i am confused, let's take natural fruit juice, that has, in one case 30kcal/100g ....does this mean 30000 calories/100g or am i wrong, i mean, my daily intake should be about 2000 judging from that counter on bodybuilding.com

so, my question is, how many calories does one kcal have?
and, if everything has so much, how am i suposed to eat just a few a day? :(
this has been a wierd day

[jaguarr]

kcal = a kilocalorie.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci771826,00.html

In short, no, 30kcal's does not equal 30000 calories.

jag

[CyberFaust]

thanks, but i'm still confused, i tried it with my phone conversion thing ant it said 1 kilocalorie is one thousand calories, you know, metric...kilo....1000...that thing, it's why i was so cunfused
so, 1kcal= ? calories :D


because i am a easely confused man

[Dorian Gray]

Early Morning
Flexibility - Dynamic and Static Stretching
Finger Push Ups(fore finger and thumb, both hands) 10
Jump Rope - 5 minutes(all footwork)
Sationary Bike 45 minutes


Later On(with training partner)
Stomach Conditioning(slapping a medicine ball against your stomach)
Focus Glove - Punches
Kick Shield - Kicks
Various Drills
Chi Sao
Sparring

[jaguarr]

thanks, but i'm still confused, i tried it with my phone conversion thing ant it said 1 kilocalorie is one thousand calories, you know, metric...kilo....1000...that thing, it's why i was so cunfused
so, 1kcal= ? calories :D


because i am a easely confused man


I believe it's the other way around: 1,000 kcal's = 1 calorie.

There's no way in hell a bottle of juice would have 30000 calories in it. I eat all day long and the MOST I've ever consumed in a single day was ~6,000 calories and that was by eating pretty unhealthy junk non-stop most of the day. I'm at a steady 3500 calories per day right now and I still eat all day long (clean, healthy foods, only). A bottle of juice isn't going to have that many calories, bottom line.

jag

[CyberFaust]

ohhh, not a bottle, 100g a bottle is 1000grames :D

it really is confusing, chips have about 500kcal for every 100 grames, and if takes as thousands of calories it means 500.000 calories, that's why it confuses me

anyway, the diet bit of your advice is printed and glued on my fridge door so i'm doing my best to eat healthy and often

also, i noticed that popcorn is mostly protein and carbs, does that mean i can have it as a snack?


maybe one kilocalorie is the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water with one kelvin, not one celsius or somethin'

[jaguarr]

Popcorn is possibly the most worthless food on the planet, nutritional-value speaking:

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-popcorn-air-popped_f-Y2lkPTI1Mzk1JmJpZD0xJmZpZD02MTcyOSZlaWQ9MTUwMDQ4Nz E1JnBvcz0yJnBhcj0ma2V5PXBvcGNvcm4.html

jag

[CyberFaust]

but does that mean i can eat it daily when i watch TV or something, i mean it is mostly air, but i wanna know if it's cheating my didet or not

[jaguarr]

It'll add some additional carbs more than anything. If you're eating it with any salt and butter or a pre-made microwave kind that's covered in butter and salty chemicals then the sodium/fat profile is going to be detrimental to your goals. Plain, air-popped popcorn...yeah, you could probably get away with that as a snack.

jag

[Mr. Credible]

okay... i'd love to knoe whether or not this is a good workout routine... i think it is:

monday: chest and triceps
tuesday: upper back and biceps
wednesday: shoulders, neck, and lower back
thursday: chest and triceps, again
friday: upper back and biceps again
mon-fri: legs at randon intervals/cardio/abs.

good? no?

[jaguarr]

okay... i'd love to knoe whether or not this is a good workout routine... i think it is:

monday: chest and triceps
tuesday: upper back and biceps
wednesday: shoulders, neck, and lower back
thursday: chest and triceps, again
friday: upper back and biceps again
mon-fri: legs at randon intervals/cardio/abs.

good? no?

I have no idea because I don't know what exercises you are doing for each routine and what your diet, rest and supplementation regimens are going to look like. On first glance, I'd say you'd be overtraining, especially if you plan to work legs every day. I also have no idea what your goals are or what you're trying to accomplish with your workouts or what your current state of fitness and experience with weight training is.

jag

[CyberFaust]

i usually buy the nicrowave kind, i used to buy with butter, now i buy salt because of less fat, from now on i'll try to figure out how to do it without anything but in the microwave because i'm lazy

[CyberFaust]

I have no idea because I don't know what exercises you are doing for each routine and what your diet, rest and supplementation regimens are going to look like. On first glance, I'd say you'd be overtraining, especially if you plan to work legs every day.

jag
yeah, but i still get the prize, right? :D

[jaguarr]

i usually buy the nicrowave kind, i used to buy with butter, now i buy salt because of less fat, from now on i'll try to figure out how to do it without anything but in the microwave because i'm lazy

Airpoppers are cheap. The microwave kind is always going to have a bunch of extra crap in it. Read the ingredients label and you'll see what I mean.

jag

[jaguarr]

yeah, but i still get the prize, right? :D

You're a personal trainer's walking thesis paper. :hyper:

jag

[CyberFaust]

you know, those two go right in the sig now :D

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey Jag how do you feel about rope climbing? You know like they used to make kids do in gym class.

I used to do it when I was younger and could make it easily all the way to the top of a 20ft + ceiling. But I'm curious as to how effective a workout it is and how good or bad it is on your shoulders.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Ok, so I'm 17 and trying to qualify for the 2003 Olympics. I knew I could take most of the guys in my weight class, considering how badly I owned everybody at my high school. I made a kid cry on time and run into the stand to his mother, true story. Anyway, at the time I weighed a measly 185lbs and I wanted to get into the 200lbs weight class. 15lbs is a heap of weight to put on in a few months, so I decided to try something nobody else had done.....not poop. I ate and ate and held it all in. "How did you not poop, Spoons?" you may be wondering. With the help of a nifty invention called the manpon. What may look like a stack of napkins folded up was actually a scientifically proven way to up your weight in a pinch(pun unintended ;))

Long story short, after 6 months of not poopin, I packed on 15lbs and got to eat whatever I wanted. Too bad I lost at the Olympics :(


............I'm at a lost for words. :up:

[jaguarr]

Hey Jag how do you feel about rope climbing? You know like they used to make kids do in gym class.

I used to do it when I was younger and could make it easily all the way to the top of a 20ft + ceiling. But I'm curious as to how effective a workout it is and how good or bad it is on your shoulders.

That's a good functional strength workout, actually. Do watch your shoulders on it, but otherwise, have fun. Have someone light the bottom of the rope on fire when you're about 1/4 of the way up it for added motivation. :up:

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

That's a good functional strength workout, actually. Do watch your shoulders on it, but otherwise, have fun. Have someone light the bottom of the rope on fire when you're about 1/4 of the way up it for added motivation. :up:

jag

Sounds good, although I'm a little concerned about the lighting part. Once the rope burns how am I supposed to get back down? :up:

[Superman79]

That's a good functional strength workout, actually. Do watch your shoulders on it, but otherwise, have fun. Have someone light the bottom of the rope on fire when you're about 1/4 of the way up it for added motivation. :up:

jag

That sounds like my theory on cardio...on summer days that I really don't wanna do it, my dad offers to chase me with the car...

[Superman79]

Sounds good, although I'm a little concerned about the lighting part. Once the rope burns how am I supposed to get back down? :up:

Tuck and roll bro, tuck and roll... :oldrazz:

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha

[jaguarr]

Sounds good, although I'm a little concerned about the lighting part. Once the rope burns how am I supposed to get back down? :up:

Gravity. Duh. :rolleyes:

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Tuck and roll bro, tuck and roll... :oldrazz:

I thouht it was stop, drop and roll? :huh::woot:

[BRUTAL]

I thouht it was stop, drop and roll? :huh::woot:

Well you thouht wrong :o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Then I've been lied to the whole time. :(

[BRUTAL]

Spelling Joke... missed... :csad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Spelling Joke... missed... :csad:

I got it, well the mispell but not the joke :(

[Babs Gordon]

Woohoo! I did 45 minutes HARD on the spin bike today (don't ask me how I push myself so hard by myself) and then I repeated a perfect plank pose 3 times and held it for SIXTY seconds (I watched myself sideways in the mirror to make sure I wasn't cheating). I couldn't be prouder :) :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

:up:

[Dorian Gray]

:up:

[Fran]

:up:

[Fran]

Okay, my buddy is planning on running a 5k (or two, I'm not sure) this summer, and I'm helping him train.

This will invigorate me to lose the weight... I've already bought a bike, and I'm getting my bench back from my stepdad after the divorce is final from my mom.

Any techniques/workouts that can help us train? Certain ones aimed for his type of training?

[ShadowBoxing]

Not that this is fitness related in the slightest, but I so blacked out last night...wow...this is so surreal right now.

[jaguarr]

Okay, my buddy is planning on running a 5k (or two, I'm not sure) this summer, and I'm helping him train.

This will invigorate me to lose the weight... I've already bought a bike, and I'm getting my bench back from my stepdad after the divorce is final from my mom.

Any techniques/workouts that can help us train? Certain ones aimed for his type of training?

I don't know jack about training for a marathon, but I'm glad you're finding inspiration in it all. Do work! :up:

Not that this is fitness related in the slightest, but I so blacked out last night...wow...this is so surreal right now.

Don't worry, I'm sure your friends have plenty of photos to help you relive that which you do not remember. :)



Back & Bi's later today. I'll finally be back over 400 on my rack deads today, which will be nice. Took me a long time to work back up to that range after I got sick a couple months ago. :(

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome back/bi workout just now :up:

Got 5 good reps of 200lbs on lat pulldowns too :D

[Iceman]

^ Good going :up:

[Dorian Gray]

Did Work....Today I got to use the Marcy Machine again at my Personal Trainer friend's house today ....damn, I love that machine:woot:

Ealry Morning
Jogging - 1.5 miles
Finger Push Ups(all fingers, each individual hand) - 10

Later on
Circuit Training followed by Bullworker


Abs
V-ups - 3x50
Roman Chair - 3x30
Frog Kicks - 3x as many as I could do
Waist Twists - 3x70
Sit up Twists - 3x30

Forearms
Wirst Curls - 3x20
Overhand Wrist Curls - 3x20
Dumbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Overhand Dumbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Grip Machine - 3x20

[AndThePickles]

Glad it went well, Spoons! NOW you're doin' work! :up:


jag

I did the routine with him and really liked it! Thanks for the suggestion :yay: :up:

[Superman79]

Great arm/abs workout today...but that wasn't the weird thing

Today in the gym I met a guy who can only be reffered to as Bizzaro Spoons...i mean the guy look JUST LIKE CS...it was kinda creepy...

[jaguarr]

I did the routine with him and really liked it! Thanks for the suggestion :yay: :up:

I think it's awesome that you can squat as much as your boyfriend. :D Women who lift heavy ass weight are sexay! :up:


Had a ripper of a back/bi workout today. I'll be feeling it tomorrow.

jag

[jaguarr]

Heh! Saw this smiley on another forum and thought it apropos to our thread:

Do work! http://1as-vegas.com/Smileys/PRESSUPS.gif

jag

[Iceman]

i do not, i have great legs as they are thanks to my bike, as faar as legs are concerned i'm exactly where i want to be

The benefits of working your lower body are numerous (boosts testosterone production, spurs balance and growth among all body parts, and improves load-bearing ability, among many other things). You should really consider adding some leg work to your routine.

jag^ What Jag said.



Seriously I've read the same thing many times. :up:

you know, those two go right in the sig now :DHaha :woot::up:

[Iceman]

Do work! http://1as-vegas.com/Smileys/PRESSUPS.gif

jagThe new Hype Fitness thread motto :up::cool:

[mrvlknight21]

Hey Jag how do you feel about rope climbing? You know like they used to make kids do in gym class.

I used to do it when I was younger and could make it easily all the way to the top of a 20ft + ceiling. But I'm curious as to how effective a workout it is and how good or bad it is on your shoulders.

I know you didnt ask me, but rope climbing is a kick ass workout. I have a 2" manila one in the tree outside (about 20' up). Great for all pulling muscles and grip strength.

[enterthemadness]

Guys, when is the best time to eat a protein bar? On days you work out...before or after...or just whenever?

[mrvlknight21]

Guys, when is the best time to eat a protein bar? On days you work out...before or after...or just whenever?

First of all, be careful with those "protein bars" and the like. Many have a bunch of sugar, HFCS, fat and other ingredients that make them not as valuable as you might think.
However, assuming you find a good one-before a workout or as a snack are good ideas.

[enterthemadness]

First of all, be careful with those "protein bars" and the like. Many have a bunch of sugar, HFCS, fat and other ingredients that make them not as valuable as you might think.
However, assuming you find a good one-before a workout or as a snack are good ideas.


I got me a box (6 bars) of Pure Protein Chocolate Deluxe.

170 calories - 40 fat cal.

4.5g total fat.
3.5g saturated fat.
0 Tran fat.
0g sugar
7g Sugar alcohol
20g Protein
Tons of vitamins.

I see no HFCS...no CS..no OCJ (Organic cane juice)...do see something called Maltitol Syrup.

[enterthemadness]

http://www.lowcarbyummies.com/Low-Carb-Yummies/maltitol-syrup.htm

Maltitol Syrup is a artifical sweetner.

...

Yes, spelling erros galore.

[CyberFaust]

well, i had 4 days break, not by choice mind you so today i hit it hard, my pre-workout run is now a mile instead of 1Km and it's a little faster, also, i noticed that the right music dorring a run gets your mind off of the pain and numbness in the legs
so, legs...decided to divide them in 2 bits, the front bin and the back bit, because this was lower and upper back and abbs day, i threw in the back side of my legs, it felt good and by that i mean it hurts

and now these bits of my body get 2 days rest

[Super Kal]

question:

is it okay to lose a pound a day?

[jaguarr]

question:

is it okay to lose a pound a day?

1-2 pounds per WEEK of fat loss is healthy. Anything more than that isn't healthy and is probably largely water weight. My weight fluctuates by 5+ pounds throughout the day because of the water and food I take in during the day, anyway. I weigh much less in the mornings than I do in the evenings.

jag

[Super Kal]

i take it you have to lose the water weight before you fan lose the fat?
is it possible to have more than 10 pounds of water weight?

[jaguarr]

No, you don't have to lose water weight before you lose fat. And you could have ten pounds of water weight you could shed if you had enough mass. The body is like ~70% water, depending on your age and health.

jag

[jaguarr]

No, you don't have to lose water weight before you lose fat. And you could have ten pounds of water weight you could shed if you had enough mass. The body is like ~70% water, depending on your age and health.

jag

[Super Kal]

No, you don't have to lose water weight before you lose fat. And you could have ten pounds of water weight you could shed if you had enough mass. The body is like ~70% water, depending on your age and health.

jag
I'm just starting to get worried and annoyed that I'm not seeing a difference...
yeah, sure I've lost 21 pounds, but I sure as hell don't look it.

[jaguarr]

I'm just starting to get worried and annoyed that I'm not seeing a difference...
yeah, sure I've lost 21 pounds, but I sure as hell don't look it.

A couple of thoughts:

The first is, that change like this happens slowly and you don't really notice it when you see yourself day to day. The mirror also doesn't really give you an accurate representation of what's going on. One way to track your progress is to take monthly progress photos. I bet you'll see the progress from month to month if you compare photos from each month previous side by side.

The second is that you are surely converting some of that fat to muscle, which can mean slower looking reductions in size if you're very overweight, even though you're really dropping fat and firming up underneath that top layer. Also, the same square inch of muscle is going to weigh a lot more than the square inch of fat that it used to be, because it's denser. So, the scale can be a big trap for people trying to lose weight because they may not lose as much actual weight as they think they should be even though they are dropping the fat they ought to be and converting it to muscle.

The third is, you didn't get overweight overnight. It's not going to come off overnight, either. Be patient and stick to your guns. You're obviously making great progress to have dropped 21 pounds, so keep up the hard work and keep at it.

jag

[Super Kal]

yeah, I know it's not gonna come off overnight, and honestly I didn't expect it to... I just don't feel any different body wise.

and the water weight thing just kinda freaked me out a bit.

[hey yo its sean]

I'm working on improving my grip strength. Any words of wisdom from the peanut gallery?

[jaguarr]

I'm working on improving my grip strength. Any words of wisdom from the peanut gallery?

Farmers walks. Go as heavy as you can without straps on deadlifts and shrugs. Do weighted hangs from a chin-up bar (hang until you can't hold on anymore). And check out the Captains Of Crush Website (http://www.ironmind.com/ironcms/export/IronMind/Main/captainsofcrush1.html).

jag

[hey yo its sean]

Thanks for the tips. :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Farmers walks. Go as heavy as you can without straps on deadlifts and shrugs. Do weighted hangs from a chin-up bar (hang until you can't hold on anymore). And check out the Captains Of Crush Website (http://www.ironmind.com/ironcms/export/IronMind/Main/captainsofcrush1.html).

jag

Agreed.
Also, drape a towel over a pullup bar and do pullups with it (or a thick rope).
Also, fat grips, use fat grip bars for any movement. If you dont have any fat bars, wrap a towel around them (you could do this for shrugs, deadlifts, etc etc).
Along w/ captains of crush, I recommend this website also.
http://www.functionalhandstrength.com/grip_articles.html

There is a TON of free grip work info out there and you can work your grip without any fancy tools or expensive equipment.

[GNR]

Play tennis.A good 2 to 4 hrs a day will do your body good.

[triplefive]

i started hitting the gym a few months ago

i go 3-4 times a week during the week and i take the weekends off

day 1: minimum 30 minutes on the elliptical at an average of 55rpm, upper back (45lb), chest press (60lb), shoulders - free weights (7.5lb per arm), triceps - pulldown (22.5lb total), abs - machine (45lb), crunches (three sets of 75 or more on a mat because the ball hurt my back)

day 2: elliptical again, lower back (120lb), leg press (105lb), hamstrings (60lb), hip abductors - inner (60lb), hip abductors - outer (50lb)

day 3: 45-50 minutes on the elliptical, or maybe 15 minutes of jogging and half an hour on the elliptical

day 4: everything from days 1 and 2

if i skip a day, i skip day 3 obviously.

i feel like my progress on the machines has been pretty slow. if i go up in weight i always lose my form, but i've been doing these weights for like three weeks now and my boyfriend says i should do biceps if i'm doing triceps for balance or something.

any suggestions?

eta: oh, and on the machines i usually do 2-3 sets of 15-20 reps. i'm not looking to build of course, i'm just looking for tone.

[terry78]

^You wanna end up looking like Hilary Swank in Million Dollar Baby, huh? :o

[Lunar_Wolf]

I gotta go back to the gym tomorrow. I haven't done anything since feb. Lazy few months what with college and work. But thats no excuse:csad: . So tomorrow back to the gym and good eating. My gf doesn't want me too she likes the way I am, I'm cuddly :P

[triplefive]

^You wanna end up looking like Hilary Swank in Million Dollar Baby, huh? :o
:P

my arms and stomach look a tiny bit more toned than before but other than that, nothing's changed. my body fat percentage will never be low enough to show manly muscle. i just want to achieve good muscle tone, for which i still have months to go.

[mrvlknight21]

:P

my arms and stomach look a tiny bit more toned than before but other than that, nothing's changed. my body fat percentage will never be low enough to show manly muscle. i just want to achieve good muscle tone, for which i still have months to go.

Turn up the intensity through various things-more weight, more reps, less rest, etc.
Also, is the routine listed what you do everytime you hit the gym? If so, it is past time to change it up, get busy with some new movements. Dont be afraid of free weights or bodyweight exercises-IMO you will see results quicker with them than any machine.

[jaguarr]

^You wanna end up looking like Hilary Swank in Million Dollar Baby, huh? :o

She's not going to get like that doing what she's doing.

i started hitting the gym a few months ago

i go 3-4 times a week during the week and i take the weekends off

day 1: minimum 30 minutes on the elliptical at an average of 55rpm, upper back (45lb), chest press (60lb), shoulders - free weights (7.5lb per arm), triceps - pulldown (22.5lb total), abs - machine (45lb), crunches (three sets of 75 or more on a mat because the ball hurt my back)

day 2: elliptical again, lower back (120lb), leg press (105lb), hamstrings (60lb), hip abductors - inner (60lb), hip abductors - outer (50lb)

day 3: 45-50 minutes on the elliptical, or maybe 15 minutes of jogging and half an hour on the elliptical

day 4: everything from days 1 and 2

if i skip a day, i skip day 3 obviously.

i feel like my progress on the machines has been pretty slow. if i go up in weight i always lose my form, but i've been doing these weights for like three weeks now and my boyfriend says i should do biceps if i'm doing triceps for balance or something.

any suggestions?

eta: oh, and on the machines i usually do 2-3 sets of 15-20 reps. i'm not looking to build of course, i'm just looking for tone.

There are a lot of ways to approach weight training, depending on your goals. Let me disspell the myth for you right now that women who lift heavy weights turn into freakish She-Hulks. The only way that will happen is if you start eating like a horse and injecting anabolic steroids. What this means is that women can take advantage of heavier free weight training and more traditional weight-lifting splits to accomplish their goals of firming up and toning and their bodies will react naturally. It's much harder for women to build much muscle mass because of their natural testosterone levels being so much lower than men's on average. The muscle women build tends to be the lean, "toned" kind that you're after. The other beautiful thing about adding that muscle is that muscle burns fat. The more muscle you add, the more fat it's going to burn.

So, the first thing I would advise is dropping down to more around the three sets of ten to twelve repetitions range and raising your weight up a bit more. We could also probably construct your workouts to be a little more productive. Something like this:

day 1:

Warm up on elliptical for 10 minutes
Chest press
triceps - pulldown
shoulders - free weights (would help to know what exercise you're doing here)
abs - machine
crunches
30-45 minutes on the elliptical at an average of 55rpm
day 2:

Warm up on elliptical for 10 minutes
leg press
hamstrings
hip abductors - inner
hip abductors - outer
crunches
30-45 minutes on the elliptical at an average of 55rpm
day 3:

upper back
lower back
Dumbbell Bicep Curls
Concentration Bicep Curls
Crunches
30-45 minutes on the elliptical at an average of 55rpm
day 4: Cardio only - 45-60 minutes


This is more of a traditional three day split, with the exercises in preferred order so that they build upon each other in terms of pre-exhaustion. It would be a more balanced workout approach and maximize the time you spend lifting. You could also throw a couple more days of cardio in there if you wanted to, preferably taking a day off inbetween each weight-training session to just do cardio so your body has more time to heal up between weight lifting sessions. Give that a try for a bit and let me know if it spurs some progress for you. The other thing we'd need to look at is your diet, which is going to be 90% of your success.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

I knew you would chime in with that good info Jag!

[triplefive]

wow, thanks jag!

i'll print that out and give it a try. coincidentally, i just did your day 1, except with front-loaded cardio.

as for my diet, i'm a bit of a health nut so i'm probably good on that front. the only thing is that i don't eat red meat or pork. i get protein from things like cottage cheese, egg white omelets, and chicken. i make sure to get my servings of fruit in, and i eat whole wheat everything when i can help it.

and then there's ice cream. and chocolate. and candy. but you know, in moderation.

[CyberFaust]

Today was a off day for me, it feels wierd to just sit home now that i got used to going daily but in spite of that my muscles are just now getting sore from the workout yestarday.


And today, someone told me i look better phisicaly than i did before, less fat, more muscle, so yay for me :D

[jaguarr]

wow, thanks jag!

i'll print that out and give it a try. coincidentally, i just did your day 1, except with front-loaded cardio.

as for my diet, i'm a bit of a health nut so i'm probably good on that front. the only thing is that i don't eat red meat or pork. i get protein from things like cottage cheese, egg white omelets, and chicken. i make sure to get my servings of fruit in, and i eat whole wheat everything when i can help it.

and then there's ice cream. and chocolate. and candy. but you know, in moderation.

In my sig, there's some good information about getting your diet on track including how to figure out your ideal caloric intake and macronutrient percentages, how to track what you're eating (fitday.com) and what and when to eat. It's just as applicable to a woman as it is to a man.

jag

[jaguarr]

Today was a off day for me, it feels wierd to just sit home now that i got used to going daily but in spite of that my muscles are just now getting sore from the workout yestarday.


And today, someone told me i look better phisicaly than i did before, less fat, more muscle, so yay for me :D

I'm rarely very sore until a day and a half to two days after a workout, actually.

jag

[Iceman]

Jag I think it's time you started charging peeps for advice,.... excluding me obviously :up:

[JStorm]

So I was working out last night, and this girl I've spoken with a few times, shared workout tips, etc, was there. I began another conversation with her, and she told me she was doing legs and wanted to show me.

So I showed her rack-chins and she showed me a different way to do squats.

As to not be a jerk, I didn't take to much of her time. She's cute, works out hard, and can keep a decent conversation.

So, anyway, I was biding my time. I thought I would speak with her a few times before I dropped the "can I have your number" bomb on her.

Low and butthole(DDDD), a dude came out of nowhere and penisblocked me. :mad:




Why couldn't my boys had been there to run interference?! :(

I needed Jag, Spoon, and Devil to lay the smack down while the little man handled his business!!


:down to bad manners.

[jaguarr]

Jag I think it's time you started charging peeps for advice,.... excluding me obviously :up:

Nahhh. I've learned all I know freely and from others. I'm just "Paying it forward".

So I was working out last night, and this girl I've spoken with a few times, shared workout tips, etc, was there. I began another conversation with her, and she told me she was doing legs and wanted to show me.

So I showed her rack-chins and she showed me a different way to do squats.

As to not be a jerk, I didn't take to much of her time. She's cute, works out hard, and can keep a decent conversation.

So, anyway, I was biding my time. I thought I would speak with her a few times before I dropped the "can I have your number" bomb on her.

Low and butthole(DDDD), a dude came out of nowhere and penisblocked me. :mad:




Why couldn't my boys had been there to run interference?! :(

I needed Jag, Spoon, and Devil to lay the smack down while the little man handled his business!!


:down to bad manners.

You're not out of the running, homeboy. It's not like he's set a wedding date with her. Stick to your plan and keep up the rapport and hit her up for her numbaz as you were intending to. :up:

jag

[terry78]

^You can't pussyfoot around in those situations. I can recall times I've seen a female at a bookstore just reading a book, and actually pondered the best way to say what's up to her, then some other dude that's not a boyfriend springs up with a clever anecdote. I learned to stop biding my time.

[JStorm]

^You can't pussyfoot around in those situations. I can recall times I've seen a female at a bookstore just reading a book, and actually pondered the best way to say what's up to her, then some other dude that's not a boyfriend springs up with a clever anecdote. I learned to stop biding my time.

I understand. But I didn't want to ask her for her number the first time we met.

I like to keep things simple and quick in the gym because I don't want people talking with me, over and again, while I work out.

This isn't like a bar scene; but because you brought up the "bookstore," I understand and agree. Like your situation, we wouldn't have a few hours to talk and share a few drinks, a la a bar.

However, in my defense, I have seen her before, and we do work out at the same time; so I thought I would give her space and work my way in. (pun intended, slightly) :D

[mrvlknight21]

I understand. But I didn't want to ask her for her number the first time we met.

I like to keep things simple and quick in the gym because I don't want people talking with me, over and again, while I work out.

This isn't like a bar scene; but because you brought up the "bookstore," I understand and agree. Like your situation, we wouldn't have a few hours to talk and share a few drinks, a la a bar.

However, in my defense, I have seen her before, and we do work out at the same time; so I thought I would give her space and work my way in. (pun intended, slightly) :D

Somehow this has turned into a "who did Storm flirt with today at the gym": rather than a "how much did Storm lift today at the gym" :dry:

[JStorm]

Somehow this has turned into a "who did Storm flirt with today at the gym": rather than a "how much did Storm lift today at the gym" :dry:

I lifted rather well yesterday: Bi's and Tri's with a mile, flat out, jog.

Today, I plan on doing chest and a two miler.

My workout out has not faltered because of this girl. Besides, there is only so much I can take of page after page of "I worked out like Ahnold last night."

Also, had YOU been here, you would have broken my balls unless I spoke with her, and you would have run inteference, soldier style!! :up:

Devil: "Hey dude, you see that little guy over there.. I would kill for him. *shows pistol hidden in jockstrap*"

[Lunar_Wolf]

How meals would everyone recommend eating a day? I just want to slim down and stick to mostly cardio.

[triplefive]

How meals would everyone recommend eating a day? I just want to slim down and stick to mostly cardio.
light meals every three hours to keep your metabolism up

your target caloric intake depends on your size

[Iceman]

Nahhh. I've learned all I know freely and from others. I'm just "Paying it forward".The ever charitable Jag :up:

Maybe just charge ETM :woot:

[Jack Rabbit]

Went for a 5 mile run yesterday morning, and finished in about 36 minutes and change.

I pushed myself pretty good too, I was ****ing spent the rest of the day.

[Dorian Gray]

had a good one, did work...

Ealry Morning
Jogging - 2 miles
Finger Push Ups(all fingers, both hands) - 10

Later on
Circuit Training followed by Bullworker

Forearms
Wrist Curls - 3x20
Overhand Wrist Curls - 3x20
Dumbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Overhand Dumbell Wrist Curls - 3x20
Reverse Curls 3x20
Grip Machine - 3x20
Eagle Catcher - 50

Abs
V-ups - 3x50
Sit Ups 3x20
Roman Chair - 3x30
Frog Kicks - 3x as many as I could do
Side Bends - 3x70
Sit up Twists - 3x30

[terry78]

I'm glad no one sees the irony in so many people so health conscious and in shape on a superhero message board. :o

[JStorm]

I'm glad no one sees the irony in so many people so health conscious and in shape on a superhero message board. :o

Had we been standing next to one another, I am sure that comment would have made sense.

Lay off the drink, Terry. I've had two vodka "kryptonites," and I am cool! :p

[mrvlknight21]

Had we been standing next to one another, I am sure that comment would have made sense.

Lay off the drink, Terry. I've had two vodka "kryptonites," and I am cool! :p

Ah, kryptonites....that may be the one thing that this non-drinker will be remembered for...making a kick a$$ vodka mix.

[JStorm]

Ah, kryptonites....that may be the one thing that this non-drinker will be remembered for...making a kick a$$ vodka mix.

The list could go on, my friend. There are only a few people you and I would venture to the Neveda desert for. :up:

[terry78]

Had we been standing next to one another, I am sure that comment would have made sense.

Lay off the drink, Terry. I've had two vodka "kryptonites," and I am cool! :p


Duly noted, man. Duly noted.

[kytrigger]

I had a great chest/bi workout today until some ******* ruined it. I mainly did all DB work today, and I was doing incline DB flys and this guy (who had been talking the whole time instead of paying attention) walks past me completely hitting my arm in the stretch position. I actually fell to the side and pulled a muscle in my back. The only thing he said was "oh ****, thank god for those rubber mats huh?" whatever the **** that means.

He then goes on to the pullup assist machine, puts the weight at about 120, and proceeds to use it like a pushup. The padded seat that you are supposed to put your knees on, he just puts his hands on an just pushes it down in a pushup position.

God I was so pissed, and I still am. Luckily though it was my last set for the day so I got my whole workout in.

[jaguarr]

I had a great chest/bi workout today until some ******* ruined it. I mainly did all DB work today, and I was doing incline DB flys and this guy (who had been talking the whole time instead of paying attention) walks past me completely hitting my arm in the stretch position. I actually fell to the side and pulled a muscle in my back. The only thing he said was "oh ****, thank god for those rubber mats huh?" whatever the **** that means.

He then goes on to the pullup assist machine, puts the weight at about 120, and proceeds to use it like a pushup. The padded seat that you are supposed to put your knees on, he just puts his hands on an just pushes it down in a pushup position.

God I was so pissed, and I still am. Luckily though it was my last set for the day so I got my whole workout in.


I would have reached down his throat and removed his spleen for that. Glad you weren't seriously hurt.

jag

[terry78]

I would have reached down his throat and removed his spleen for that. Glad you weren't seriously hurt.

jag

At least you prove that not all bodybuilder dudes are jerks, right? ;)

[jaguarr]

At least you prove that not all bodybuilder dudes are jerks, right? ;)

Hey, bumping into someone's arm that's supporting heavy weight while they are lifting is DANGEROUS and could INJURE them. Possibly even severely. I'd say the guy being inattentive and doing something like that in that type environment is the one who's a jerk.

jag

[CyberFaust]

I had a great chest/bi workout today until some ******* ruined it. I mainly did all DB work today, and I was doing incline DB flys and this guy (who had been talking the whole time instead of paying attention) walks past me completely hitting my arm in the stretch position. I actually fell to the side and pulled a muscle in my back. The only thing he said was "oh ****, thank god for those rubber mats huh?" whatever the **** that means.

He then goes on to the pullup assist machine, puts the weight at about 120, and proceeds to use it like a pushup. The padded seat that you are supposed to put your knees on, he just puts his hands on an just pushes it down in a pushup position.

God I was so pissed, and I still am. Luckily though it was my last set for the day so I got my whole workout in.

i really don't understand what the bastard was doing on that machine

anyhow, good chest+bi+frunt bit of legs workout
also cardio day today, i did 2 miles in 17 minutes...this is a big step up from 2 km and i'm keeping the speed as is

i gotta give it to jag, now with 2 days between the same muscle group i really can do a heavier lift session

[Lighthouse]

I don't know if anyone can really answer this question, but I'll give it a shot. Is it still possible to build muscle when you have had a kidney transplant. I had a transplant when I was 17, and have to take medications for high blood pressure, cholesterol, and have to avoid fat, cholesterol and sodium as much as I can, so I'm wondering if I can build muscle or should just stick to being in good shape.

[jaguarr]

I don't know if anyone can really answer this question, but I'll give it a shot. Is it still possible to build muscle when you have had a kidney transplant. I had a transplant when I was 17, and have to take medications for high blood pressure, cholesterol, and have to avoid fat, cholesterol and sodium as much as I can, so I'm wondering if I can build muscle or should just stick to being in good shape.

No reason you shouldn't be able to, really. You probably have to be careful about your diet, especially with protein intake, but there's no reason you can't build muscle. It's worth talking with your doc about.

jag

[Sun_Down]

Missed my first workout in 5 months today. I've got some sort of stomach virus and I was easily gonna puke if I kept going. :down:

Back on the horse ASAP, though.

[Super Kal]

I just jogged 1500 ft. and I have never been more proud of myself in my life.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wzup guys, missed chattin' with you smelly cats. Been busy graduating college. I am now a man......who owes Sally Mae a hefty sum of cash :up::down:

[Mr. Credible]

i just started a new job last monday, and they've been flipping me between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd shift for training... i haven't been to the gym in a week, and i feel like a fat lump, even though i've actually lost a few pounds, according to the scale. it's probably all the walking i do at my job, at least 5 or 6 miles in a shift, plus i've been having a lot of sexy time lately, so i'm sure that helps.

[Iceman]

I just jogged 1500 ft. and I have never been more proud of myself in my life.Are you sure you mean ft? That's somewhere around 450m. :huh:

Wzup guys, missed chattin' with you smelly cats. Been busy graduating college. I am now a man......who owes Sally Mae a hefty sum of cash :up::down:CONGRATS dude!! :word:

Doesn't mean we're gonna suddenly start giving you any respect around here :woot:

[Super Kal]

yeah, that day I did... I have a circle in our house that measures out to a circumference to 60 ft. ... just jog that 25 times, and there ya go.

I'm now up to 6000 ft a day now... mind you not all at once, but still, that's pretty good for me, IMO.

[Iceman]

yeah, that day I did... I have a circle in our house that measures out to a circumference to 60 ft. ... just jog that 25 times, and there ya go.

I'm now up to 6000 ft a day now... mind you not all at once, but still, that's pretty good for me, IMO.Haha, don't wear yourself out :up:

[Super Kal]

oh, of course... If I know I can't do it that day, I just walk those miles.

[Fran]

You... you jog inside your house?

[Super Kal]

yeah... it's climate controlled, and I don't kill my feet/legs by walking/jogging on an un-even terrain.

[Fran]

Well, that makes your body work harder, and the sweat helps for the most part.

[Super Kal]

doing what... being inside or outside?

[Jack Rabbit]

Haha, don't wear yourself out :up:

Don't be a dick. He's trying to get in shape, dude. Some people have to start off slow.

[Super Kal]

I didn't think he was being a dick...

[Colossal Spoons]

CONGRATS dude!! :word:

Doesn't mean we're gonna suddenly start giving you any respect around here :woot:

Thanks you jerk.

[Jack Rabbit]

doing what... being inside or outside?

I think he means uneven terrain. If you're running on level ground, and then hit a hill, you use different muscles to get up that hill. Running golf courses is awesome.

[Jack Rabbit]

I didn't think he was being a dick...

Oh. It seemed sarcastic to me.

If you weren't, sorry I/P.

[Fran]

I think he means uneven terrain. If you're running on level ground, and then hit a hill, you use different muscles to get up that hill. Running golf courses is awesome.

Exactly.

I ride my bike around 4 different housing areas near me, total of 5 miles, around 30 minutes every day (I rested today, knees are killing me).

Going downhill makes me rest my legs, and going uphill makes me work my legs hard. And just riding it around is great :up:

[Super Kal]

that may be so, but I'd rather do my exercise inside if that means I can still walk by the end of the day.

[Super Kal]

Exactly.

I ride my bike around 4 different housing areas near me, total of 5 miles, around 30 minutes every day (I rested today, knees are killing me).

Going downhill makes me rest my legs, and going uphill makes me work my legs hard. And just riding it around is great :up:
I'm not talking big hills here... I'm talking lot's of small ones and gravel roads... it got to the point to where I was damaging a nerve in my left leg doing my walking outside.

[Jack Rabbit]

that may be so, but I'd rather do my exercise inside if that means I can still walk by the end of the day.


Have you been hydrating? :shakes fist:

Hyyyydrate!!:cmad:

[Fran]

But sweating more via walking outside (even if just outside your house) will help the process.

[Super Kal]

Have you been hydrating? :shakes fist:

Hyyyydrate!!:cmad:yes I have... at least i think I do.
I drink 4 liters of water a day.

[Super Kal]

But sweating more via walking outside (even if just outside your house) will help the process.
not at the expense of damaging the nerves in my legs

[Jack Rabbit]

yes I have... at least i think I do.
I drink 4 liters of water a day.


Is your piss clear? Or pretty clear-ish? That's a great indicator of being well hydrated.

[Super Kal]

Is your piss clear? Or pretty clear-ish? That's a great indicator of being well hydrated.
always

[Fran]

not at the expense of damaging the nerves in my legs

Butch up. :o

[Super Kal]

coming from you, that kinda surprises me...

[Fran]

coming from you, that kinda surprises me...

First off, I was joking... and what is that supposed to mean, secondly?

[Super Kal]

First off, I was joking... and what is that supposed to mean, secondly?
well, if you're joking, then never mind... lol, I get it. :D:cwink:

[Fran]

No no no, explain that to me... don't back away.

[Super Kal]

No no no, explain that to me... don't back away.
well, when you said that, it kinda sounded like you know "who cares it your legs hurt, do it anyways"... but since you were joking, it doesn't bother me.

[triplefive]

doesn't running around in circles in (i'm guessing) your basement get monotonous?

[kainedamo]

Question concerning healthy eating.

I've recently landed a job with a 5-11 shift monday to friday. I need to leave the house at 4 to get to work. This means that it is not practical to have dinner before I go to work, and when I get back home I'm having dinner at like half 11 or half 12.

I read somewhere or saw somewhere that apparently you should avoid eating after 8 o'clock as your kidneys or something like switch off at night, and won't digest your food till the next day, making you fatter. Or something.

[Super Kal]

doesn't running around in circles in (i'm guessing) your basement get monotonous?
it's not really my basement... it's a hallway, 2 dining rooms, and a living room

and no it doesn't... I plug in a boom box, put in any kind of music, and then I just mix up the combination of exercise every once in a while so it stays interesting... It also helps to listen to some fast paced music, so you can either walk or jog to it.

[jaguarr]

Wzup guys, missed chattin' with you smelly cats. Been busy graduating college. I am now a man......who owes Sally Mae a hefty sum of cash :up::down:

Sally Mae now done own yo' ass, son. Congratulations! :up:

jag

[kytrigger]

Question concerning healthy eating.

I've recently landed a job with a 5-11 shift monday to friday. I need to leave the house at 4 to get to work. This means that it is not practical to have dinner before I go to work, and when I get back home I'm having dinner at like half 11 or half 12.

I read somewhere or saw somewhere that apparently you should avoid eating after 8 o'clock as your kidneys or something like switch off at night, and won't digest your food till the next day, making you fatter. Or something.
Well, I may be wrong, but I believe thae whole idea of not eating after 8 is basically meant for those on the normal sleep cycle. With a job like that, you aren't on a normal sleep cycle so it changes for you. Instead, try not to think of exact hours you should/shouldn't eat, but somethign more like "don't eat with less than 3-4 hours before you go to bed".

Although, I'm sure someone knows a hell of a lot more about htis than me.

[jaguarr]

Your kidneys don't shut down while you sleep. You body keeps digesting, even when you're asleep, which is why so many bodybuilders are prone to eating slow digesting proteins like cottage cheese before bedtime; to keep their bodies from going catabolic. What DOES happen while you are sleeping is that the digestive process runs a little slower and you are pretty much not burning any calories, so if you go to bed with a full stomach it's not going to convert to fuel, because your body doesn't need fuel at that moment. It's sleeping. So it converts the food to fuel it can use later, i.e. fat. That's how I understand it in the broadest of laymen's terms.

jag

[Super Kal]

I'll keep that in mind next time I wanna eat something before I go to bed...

[Super Kal]

I'm starting to get weird pains from the inside of the back part of my leg, and yes, I stretch every time before I walk...

it feels like someone is stretching something out... I don't know what's happening, but does anyone else know what it sounds like?

could it be the hamstring?

[triplefive]

you should stretch after too

is it behind your knee?

[Super Kal]

i think so... i guess the best way i could describe it is like someone pulling a rope at the back of my leg.

[Iceman]

Don't be a dick. He's trying to get in shape, dude. Some people have to start off slow.I'm not sure I deserved that. :csad: http://www.kino-film-dvd.info/a-z/p/pirates-of-the-caribbean/a-z/captain-jack-sparrow.jpg

Oh. It seemed sarcastic to me.

If you weren't, sorry I/P.:up:

Thanks you jerk.I may have deserved that. :woot:

[Colossal Spoons]

Your kidneys don't shut down while you sleep. You body keeps digesting, even when you're asleep, which is why so many bodybuilders are prone to eating slow digesting proteins like cottage cheese before bedtime; to keep their bodies from going catabolic. What DOES happen while you are sleeping is that the digestive process runs a little slower and you are pretty much not burning any calories, so if you go to bed with a full stomach it's not going to convert to fuel, because your body doesn't need fuel at that moment. It's sleeping. So it converts the food to fuel it can use later, i.e. fat. That's how I understand it in the broadest of laymen's terms.

jag


Jolly good explanation!

[Super Kal]

you should stretch after too

is it behind your knee?
yes, it is behind my knee

[Colossal Spoons]

Sounds like your hammies alright.

[Super Kal]

well, before I started to walk tonight, I made double sure I stretched them before Is tarted.

[jaguarr]

well, before I started to walk tonight, I made double sure I stretched them before Is tarted.

Loosen up well before you do your walking, but save the heavy stretching for AFTER your workout.

jag

[Super Kal]

well, it worked... no pain :)

[JStorm]

Super-set: Shoulders and back. :up:

I even biked 7.5 miles, just to jazz things up.

Now it's time for a shower. Later there will be some tasty salmon, and for dessert, I think I will have a scot! :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Nice :up:

[JStorm]

Nice :up:

Hey, Colossal Spoons! You are so cool to me!

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha

Can't wait to get back in the gym on Sunday

[kainedamo]

Your kidneys don't shut down while you sleep. You body keeps digesting, even when you're asleep, which is why so many bodybuilders are prone to eating slow digesting proteins like cottage cheese before bedtime; to keep their bodies from going catabolic. What DOES happen while you are sleeping is that the digestive process runs a little slower and you are pretty much not burning any calories, so if you go to bed with a full stomach it's not going to convert to fuel, because your body doesn't need fuel at that moment. It's sleeping. So it converts the food to fuel it can use later, i.e. fat. That's how I understand it in the broadest of laymen's terms.

jag

Oh man :( I'm having enough trouble trying to lose my belly! :cmad:

[JStorm]

Haha

Can't wait to get back in the gym on Sunday

:confused:

You sick, hurt, ..big guy?

[Colossal Spoons]

No, travelling lol.

[Dodger]

Loosen up well before you do your walking, but save the heavy stretching for AFTER your workout.

jag

Wait,what? Why is this?

[JStorm]

Oh man :( I'm having enough trouble trying to lose my belly! :cmad:

carbs, fruits, bulk of your meals, etc should be eaten in the early part of the day.

Depending on when you work out, your diet should reflect your workout and sleep schedule.

Like Jag said, it turns to fat. My day is pretty much finished by the time I get home from the gym. I immedialtely drink a protein shake, and an hour or so after that I am eating a meal: fish, chicken, lean beef, with veggies.. loads of 'em.

I do not eat again until morning.


However, you schedule can be different. I am not saying you thought this or that Jag said it, but you can eat all night if you are awake. Mrvlknight21 works shift work and eats all night at times.

Again, you diet should reflect your workout and sleeping schedule.

[JStorm]

No, travelling lol.

Summa, summa, summa time.


For fifty points, who sang that song?

[Colossal Spoons]

My entire gym/nutrition life is getting a huge revamp come next week. I'll be home where I can cook my own meals and manage my damn macros and I don't have classes to change my lifting times. I expect to be in the best shape of my life soon.

[Colossal Spoons]

Summa, summa, summa time.


For fifty points, who sang that song?

Who is Boy George?

[JStorm]

My entire gym/nutrition life is getting a huge revamp come next week. I'll be home where I can cook my own meals and manage my damn macros and I don't have classes to change my lifting times. I expect to be in the best shape of my life soon.
Oddly enough, when I am in classes I am in better shape. This whole "no class" thing is getting to me. All my friends want to do after work is drink beer by the pool. Errrr, workout or go hang out with friends and hotties at the pool?

I get so confused.


Who is Boy George?
Your black man card has been revoked.

Please go to the DMV and get your "i'm really white underneath" card.


Will Smith, man!! :mad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Oddly enough, when I am in classes I am in better shape. This whole "no class" thing is getting to me. All my friends want to do after work is drink beer by the pool. Errrr, workout or go hang out with friends and hotties at the pool?

I get so confused.

Class tended to drain me. I ended up waiting like 2-3 later to go to the gym cuz I was sleepy from class. I'm actually working on getting a chubby friend of mine into better shape so that's a new kind of motivation. Gotta lead by example. :up:


Your black man card has been revoked.

Please go to the DMV and get your "i'm really white underneath" card.


Will Smith, man!! :mad:

Hahaha, I knew it was Will you poopsandwich.

[JStorm]

Class tended to drain me. I ended up waiting like 2-3 later to go to the gym cuz I was sleepy from class. I'm actually working on getting a chubby friend of mine into better shape so that's a new kind of motivation. Gotta lead by example. :up:
I workk out by myself. I have no motivazaton. :(



Hahaha, I knew it was Will you poopsandwich.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/quaqmire.gif
Gettin' giggity wit' it!
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah-nah, nah, nah.. nah, nah, nah-nah, nah.. all right!

[Colossal Spoons]

I usually go by myself and ask strangers to spot me if I need it.

[jaguarr]

Wait,what? Why is this?

Heavy, more intense stretching like the kind most people get taught in school stretches the muscles, ligaments and tendons, thereby reducing their elasticity weakening them for a short time (roughly 60-120 minutes). When you engage in heavy training, be it power walking, running, weight training, whatever, not having the full elasticity of those muscles, ligaments and tendons means that their recoil ability and timing is impacted, which makes it likelier that they won't react as quickly as you're used to or need them to, thereby increasing the risk of injury. It's better to do some LIGHT stretching and joint movements and maybe some light cardio of some kind to warm the body up and get the blood flowing to the limbs so that they'll have maximum reflex ability for your sport or workout without being compromised by being pre-stretched. Stretching AFTER you finish your workout will help the muscles, tendons and ligaments retain their elasticity and keep them supple as well as pull blood into them to help them heal faster and more completely.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Oddly enough, when I am in classes I am in better shape. This whole "no class" thing is getting to me. All my friends want to do after work is drink beer by the pool. Errrr, workout or go hang out with friends and hotties at the pool?

I get so confused.



Your black man card has been revoked.

Please go to the DMV and get your "i'm really white underneath" card.


Will Smith, man!! :mad:

Storm-You were in your best shape when you lived here and we worked out together, you told me so. This is yet another reason to move back...welll, maybe not now, since I may have to move soon!
By the way, if you get your workout on, you will look better by the pool w/ your beer belly friends!

[kainedamo]

carbs, fruits, bulk of your meals, etc should be eaten in the early part of the day.

Depending on when you work out, your diet should reflect your workout and sleep schedule.

Like Jag said, it turns to fat. My day is pretty much finished by the time I get home from the gym. I immedialtely drink a protein shake, and an hour or so after that I am eating a meal: fish, chicken, lean beef, with veggies.. loads of 'em.

I do not eat again until morning.


However, you schedule can be different. I am not saying you thought this or that Jag said it, but you can eat all night if you are awake. Mrvlknight21 works shift work and eats all night at times.

Again, you diet should reflect your workout and sleeping schedule.

So... how would that work out?

I should stay up, eat, and workout before bed?

[mrvlknight21]

Heavy, more intense stretching like the kind most people get taught in school stretches the muscles, ligaments and tendons, thereby reducing their elasticity weakening them for a short time (roughly 60-120 minutes). When you engage in heavy training, be it power walking, running, weight training, whatever, not having the full elasticity of those muscles, ligaments and tendons means that their recoil ability and timing is impacted, which makes it likelier that they won't react as quickly as you're used to or need them to, thereby increasing the risk of injury. It's better to do some LIGHT stretching and joint movements and maybe some light cardio of some kind to warm the body up and get the blood flowing to the limbs so that they'll have maximum reflex ability for your sport or workout without being compromised by being pre-stretched. Stretching AFTER you finish your workout will help the muscles, tendons and ligaments retain their elasticity and keep them supple as well as pull blood into them to help them heal faster and more completely.

jag

I agree Jag and I usually dont engage in static stretches pre-workout because of that.

[JStorm]

So... how would that work out?

I should stay up, eat, and workout before bed?

It depends when your workout is.

I workout after work: 5ish.

My diet consists of breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, protein shake after workout, dinner.

I most of my cards are eaten earlier in the day. At the latest my last bit of carbs are right before I workout. The protein shake is mixed with water; so, hopefully, I am getting mostly protein and less fat.

My dinner is usually between 7 and 8. I eat fish, chicken, or lean beef with loads of green veggies. Then my diet schedule is over. If I get hungry before bed, I try and eat straight protein or veggies.

However, you should fashion your workout to your schedule. And like I said before, when I mentioned Mrvlknight21, his schedule is sometimes flipped around from day to night. Just because the sun is down, doesn't mean Mrvl can't eat and/or workout. Moreover, I bet he doesn't eat heavy right before he goes home. In the same way I, or anyone else on a similar schedule, don't eat heavy after 7.

[JStorm]

Storm-You were in your best shape when you lived here and we worked out together, you told me so. This is yet another reason to move back...welll, maybe not now, since I may have to move soon!
By the way, if you get your workout on, you will look better by the pool w/ your beer belly friends!

I lied. :o


Nah. I was in great shape then. But, keep in mind, I was a butterball before you took over my gym workouts.

[aptget]

yo amn
ive been taking muay thai for a few years now
ive been getting very powerful
im like those goddam gundam ball z characters on toonami
i get really angry and yell KAMAAEEE MAKAAEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA
and just destroy the punching bag into a thousand pieces
im not lying, last week I was lifting weights and I was tired right
and then dragonball Z comes on and i got very angry just like gohan
i screamed RAGGHHHHHHH MAKAAA TEMPORA YAAAAAAA and all of a sudden i was lifting twice the weight
my hair turned yellow and the lighbulb above me exploded
is this normal and should i pursue this in the future?

[JStorm]

yo amn
ive been taking muay thai for a few years now
ive been getting very powerful
im like those goddam gundam ball z characters on toonami
i get really angry and yell KAMAAEEE MAKAAEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA
and just destroy the punching bag into a thousand pieces
im not lying, last week I was lifting weights and I was tired right
and then dragonball Z comes on and i got very angry just like gohan
i screamed RAGGHHHHHHH MAKAAA TEMPORA YAAAAAAA and all of a sudden i was lifting twice the weight
my hair turned yellow and the lighbulb above me exploded
is this normal and should i pursue this in the future?

I love this guy. :up:

[Super Kal]

yo amn
ive been taking muay thai for a few years now
ive been getting very powerful
im like those goddam gundam ball z characters on toonami
i get really angry and yell KAMAAEEE MAKAAEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA
and just destroy the punching bag into a thousand pieces
im not lying, last week I was lifting weights and I was tired right
and then dragonball Z comes on and i got very angry just like gohan
i screamed RAGGHHHHHHH MAKAAA TEMPORA YAAAAAAA and all of a sudden i was lifting twice the weight
my hair turned yellow and the lighbulb above me exploded
is this normal and should i pursue this in the future?
lol, sure, you go right ahead...

[Colossal Spoons]

aptget is a keeper :D

[Knives122]

yo amn
ive been taking muay thai for a few years now
ive been getting very powerful
im like those goddam gundam ball z characters on toonami
i get really angry and yell KAMAAEEE MAKAAEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA
and just destroy the punching bag into a thousand pieces
im not lying, last week I was lifting weights and I was tired right
and then dragonball Z comes on and i got very angry just like gohan
i screamed RAGGHHHHHHH MAKAAA TEMPORA YAAAAAAA and all of a sudden i was lifting twice the weight
my hair turned yellow and the lighbulb above me exploded
is this normal and should i pursue this in the future?

It's good you relate strength with power..........

There is no show called Gundam Ball Z.

Also what time were you working out b/c dbz doesn't come on toonami anymore.....

Sarcasm is fun.

[jaguarr]

yo amn
ive been taking muay thai for a few years now
ive been getting very powerful
im like those goddam gundam ball z characters on toonami
i get really angry and yell KAMAAEEE MAKAAEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA
and just destroy the punching bag into a thousand pieces
im not lying, last week I was lifting weights and I was tired right
and then dragonball Z comes on and i got very angry just like gohan
i screamed RAGGHHHHHHH MAKAAA TEMPORA YAAAAAAA and all of a sudden i was lifting twice the weight
my hair turned yellow and the lighbulb above me exploded
is this normal and should i pursue this in the future?

Well, it's hard to answer this for you without knowing your goals, current fitness level, how often you work out, your rep/set scheme, what your diet looks like, whether you're doing cardio or not, if you are taking any supplementation, how much rest you're able to get and whether you have any nagging injuries or pre-existing health conditions. :hyper:

jag

[JStorm]

I teh hate eetin hellthi foud. I waont to luke liek Brad Pit. I eet big maks like all teh time; but I feel like Superman when I plai Justus leege.

[Super Kal]

Also what time were you working out b/c dbz doesn't come on toonami anymore.....
actually it does...


but anyways, I have a question...

is it possible to stop losing weight while jogging and have the body focus more on losing the mass, because recently, I've been walking/jogging, and I've been stuck at 275 for a good week now, but I am noticing that I am getting smaller as time goes by

[Assassin]

yo amn
ive been taking muay thai for a few years now
ive been getting very powerful
im like those goddam gundam ball z characters on toonami
i get really angry and yell KAMAAEEE MAKAAEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAA
and just destroy the punching bag into a thousand pieces
im not lying, last week I was lifting weights and I was tired right
and then dragonball Z comes on and i got very angry just like gohan
i screamed RAGGHHHHHHH MAKAAA TEMPORA YAAAAAAA and all of a sudden i was lifting twice the weight
my hair turned yellow and the lighbulb above me exploded
is this normal and should i pursue this in the future?

This kid makes me laugh, I like him. He's got Spunk. :heart:

[mrvlknight21]

It depends when your workout is.

I workout after work: 5ish.

My diet consists of breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, protein shake after workout, dinner.

I most of my cards are eaten earlier in the day. At the latest my last bit of carbs are right before I workout. The protein shake is mixed with water; so, hopefully, I am getting mostly protein and less fat.

My dinner is usually between 7 and 8. I eat fish, chicken, or lean beef with loads of green veggies. Then my diet schedule is over. If I get hungry before bed, I try and eat straight protein or veggies.

However, you should fashion your workout to your schedule. And like I said before, when I mentioned Mrvlknight21, his schedule is sometimes flipped around from day to night. Just because the sun is down, doesn't mean Mrvl can't eat and/or workout. Moreover, I bet he doesn't eat heavy right before he goes home. In the same way I, or anyone else on a similar schedule, don't eat heavy after 7.


That is correct. Also, keep in mind days/nights that I work I am usually awake 19-20 hours. So those days I end up taking in a lot of meals. When I say meals, I dont mean a plate full of pasta, 2 burgers, banana pudding and texas toast at one sitting either. However, I taper it off near the end of the day, as Storm said (unless I work out late in the day).

[mrvlknight21]

I lied. :o


Nah. I was in great shape then. But, keep in mind, I was a butterball before you took over my gym workouts.

No you werent!-not to me anyways, you were just a little more snuggly, my little...oh, wait...ewwwww! Im not gay! I hate guys, I LOVE WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JStorm]

No you werent!-not to me anyways, you were just a little more snuggly, my little...oh, wait...ewwwww! Im not gay! I hate guys, I LOVE WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is your new avatar. Wear it with pride.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/phpb3EAeH_c1PM.jpg

Oh.. you've to wait until 6,000 posts to use it. :o

[mrvlknight21]

Here is your new avatar. Wear it with pride.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/phpb3EAeH_c1PM.jpg

Oh.. you've to wait until 6,000 posts to use it. :o

Just watched that last night!

[Admiral_N8]

I'm meeting a trainer tomorrow for my summer workouts, will he make me stop drinking like 5 Pepsi's a day?

[BRUTAL]

Is there an accurate way for me to get my Body Fat % without buying calipers?

I'm 6'3" and 216lbs.

I estimated about 16%...

[jaguarr]

I'm meeting a trainer tomorrow for my summer workouts, will he make me stop drinking like 5 Pepsi's a day?

Why are you asking us? Ask him. :huh: (I'd make you quit drinking pop altogether, personally, but I'm more hardline than most PT's).

Is there an accurate way for me to get my Body Fat % without buying calipers?

BF measurement is a black art. Omron makes some electronic measurement gear for it but it's not very reliable. The best way is to do the flotation tank measurement, but that's not very practical. Calipers are probably the most reliable way to do it. Whatever you do, once you select a method and instrument, stick with it because if you jump from method to method or even from instrument to instrument you're going to get all kinds of different readings.

jag

[BRUTAL]

But I need a ballpark figure stat, so I can get my Caloric Diet on track.

[jaguarr]

But I need a ballpark figure stat, so I can get my Caloric Diet on track.

Do you belong to a gym? Most PT's at gyms have calipers and know how to use them (at least, sort of). Ask one of them to take your BF measurement. They might charge you if they're greedy a-holes.

jag

[Iceman]

I want to find out my BF. Never measured it properly before.

[BRUTAL]

Do you belong to a gym? Most PT's at gyms have calipers and know how to use them (at least, sort of). Ask one of them to take your BF measurement. They might charge you if they're greedy a-holes.

jag

So basically what you're saying is there is no way to do it right now, from where I sit, so I can get my diet on the right track today.

[jaguarr]

So basically what you're saying is there is no way to do it right now, from where I sit, so I can get my diet on the right track today.

Pretty much. Just go with your best guesstimate. You can adjust later on once you've gotten a more formal BF measurement.

jag

[Iceman]

How do you make a rough guess?

[Super Kal]

so... can anyone help me with my dilemma?

[squeekness]

How do you make a rough guess?Buy a scale with a BF measurement. It might not be as acurate as cailipers, but I imagine it should still be within the ball park. A BF scale should only run about 30-40 dollars US.

[jaguarr]

How do you make a rough guess?

I learned to rough guesstimate by just knowing people or seeing pics of people who had formal BF% measurements. Over time you get a general idea just by looking at a person but that's really prone to error and misjudgment.

jag

[jaguarr]

so... can anyone help me with my dilemma?

What dilemma?

jag

[Super Kal]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=11748552&postcount=6439

[Iceman]

Buy a scale with a BF measurement. It might not be as acurate as cailipers, but I imagine it should still be within the ball park. A BF scale should only run about 30-40 dollars US.I'd have to look into how they work. I looked into this briefly a years ago and can vaguely remember not thinking too much of the measurement methods.

I learned to rough guesstimate by just knowing people or seeing pics of people who had formal BF% measurements. Over time you get a general idea just by looking at a person but that's really prone to error and misjudgment.

jagI'll probably do that. Hopefully the eye can give a reasonable indication.

[jaguarr]

actually it does...


but anyways, I have a question...

is it possible to stop losing weight while jogging and have the body focus more on losing the mass, because recently, I've been walking/jogging, and I've been stuck at 275 for a good week now, but I am noticing that I am getting smaller as time goes by

Fix your diet.

jag

[Super Kal]

that's easier said than done, jag

[BRUTAL]

Pretty much. Just go with your best guesstimate. You can adjust later on once you've gotten a more formal BF measurement.

jag

Have a gander at this... from bodybuilding.com this is the diet for 216lbs. at 16% BF

If you workout hard, follow these guidelines:

3271 calories per day.
247 grams of protein per day.
329 grams of carbs per day.
107 grams of fat per day.

Split these up into 6 equal meals daily. This would mean that you would take in the following at EACH meal:

545 calories per meal.
41 grams of protein per meal.
55 grams of carbs per meal.
18 grams of fat per meal.

If you don't workout hard, follow these guidelines:

1851 calories per day.
165 grams of protein per day.
219 grams of carbs per day.
35 grams of fat per day.

Split these up into 6 equal meals daily. This would mean that you would take in the following at EACH meal:

309 calories per meal.
27 grams of protein per meal.
37 grams of carbs per meal.
6 grams of fat per meal.

However I don't know what category I fall into. I don't think I kill myself in the gym enough to warrant the first but I don't think I puss out enough for the second... hence my dilemma.

[jaguarr]

that's easier said than done, jag

Not really. Are you tracking your diet in fitday.com? Have you figured out your appropriate caloric intake for your weight, age and fitness level? Have you split out your macronutrients to 40% protein, 40% carbs and 20% Essential Fatty Acids? What are you eating, specifically? When are you eating it? How many meals? How many calories per meal? If you can't answer all of those questions (and fitday can help you answer all of those), then you need to fix your diet.

jag

[jaguarr]

Have a gander at this... from bodybuilding.com this is the diet for 216lbs. at 16% BF

However I don't know what category I fall into. I don't think I kill myself in the gym enough to warrant the first but I don't think I puss out enough for the second... hence my dilemma.

Depends more on your goals. You're wanting to add muscle, so the higher number of 3271 is probably more appropriate. I'm 5'6" and 198 (hey, I dropped a little BF recently! :D ) and still pulling down 3500-4000 calories per day, depending on my activity level.

jag

[BRUTAL]

How long should I be waiting in between meals?

[jaguarr]

How long should I be waiting in between meals?

I eat every 2-3 hours.

jag

[Super Kal]

Not really. Are you tracking your diet in fitday.com? Have you figured out your appropriate caloric intake for your weight, age and fitness level? Have you split out your macronutrients to 40% protein, 40% carbs and 20% Essential Fatty Acids? What are you eating, specifically? When are you eating it? How many meals? How many calories per meal? If you can't answer all of those questions (and fitday can help you answer all of those), then you need to fix your diet.

jag
the only one I can't answer is that macro nutrient thing... and I've been through fitday.com, and it tells me absolutely nothing about macro nutrients.

[BRUTAL]

Sweet glorious answers!

[jaguarr]

the only one I can't answer is that macro nutrient thing... and I've been through fitday.com, and it tells me absolutely nothing about macro nutrients.

Take a look at your caloric intake. Are you burning ~500 calories more than you're taking in on a daily basis? Are you eating clean foods and getting that 40/40/20 split? If not, fix your diet. ;)

jag

[Super Kal]

Are you burning ~500 calories more than you're taking in on a daily basis?

jag
the best I can do every day is 2.27 miles... anything over that, and I'm in pain. My body can't handle more than that...


you do realize that I'm just trying to lose weight, and not be a body builder, right?

[jaguarr]

the best I can do every day is 2.27 miles... anything over that, and I'm in pain. My body can't handle more than that...


you do realize that I'm just trying to lose weight, and not be a body builder, right?

I'm giving you fat loss advice, so no worries. :up: Figure out what that 2.27 miles per day burns on a caloric level and make sure you're consuming ~500 calories less than your optimum caloric intake level after you factor in that 2.27 miles of caloric burn rate. Diet fixed.

jag

[Super Kal]

the best I can find out is from Body Performance TV, which tells me that a mile burns 100 calories...


and fitday.com doesn't tell me how much calories I burn in a mile by miles... it only goes by minutes, and I don't do just walking... I d a mix of walking and jogging, because I can't jog for 15 minutes straight yet

[jaguarr]

the best I can find out is from Body Performance TV, which tells me that a mile burns 100 calories...


and fitday.com doesn't tell me how much calories I burn in a mile by miles... it only goes by minutes, and I don't do just walking... I d a mix of walking and jogging, because I can't job an entire mile yet.

Clock your 2.27 miles every time you do it and use that in your daily fitday log. Or, you can clock it for a a week and then average it out for the week. One thing you should be trying to do is to make better time on that 2.27 miles every time you do it. You won't improve every time, because everyone has good days and bad days, but it's the effort that will make the difference for you. :up:

jag

[CyberFaust]

http://www.ronsaari.com/stockImages/diners/tomsRestaurant1.jpg


me: so, i was at the gym today.
george constanza: *chewing a egg salad sandwich* yeah, so? how's that working for you?
me: you wouldn't believe what happened today!
george constanza: really, what? did a barbell fall on a guy's neck?
me: what, no!
george constanza: oh... :(
me: will you let me tell you already
george constanza: *with his mouth full of egg salad* ok, ok, what happened?
me: well, i was doing my exercises, the day finaly came to up the wheights on the machines from my prevoius workouts...again. So, anyway, i finish my 2 mile warmup run, do my abbas and lower back exercises, some triceps, some upper back, and then i go to the benches to do some finish up my upper back exercises and triceps.
george constanza: can we get to it already?
me: yeah yeah yeah, so i go there, i wait for a bench to clear, it was fast, i set it flat, put my towel on it, get some dumbbells lay on it and start doing some back exercises i read about in men's health, and i really like those exercises because i've been doing them for 2 weeks or so now and they really make my whole shoulder and back area feel really good and i can feel the muscles sturuggling with the exercise, and i can see them in the mirror too, it's in fact the only exercise so far i've seen some of those secondary muscle group thingys working out with. So, this guy in a orange shirt and a sparkly tight speedo comes up to me and asks me just what the hell i'm doing
george constanza: what?!?!
me: yeah! so i explain to him what the exercise is, and where i learned it from, and what it does
george constanza: and?
me: and he tell's me it looks stupid!
george constanza: waht, in the gym, just like that!
me: yeah! so i tell him whatever, i can do wahtever i want, i thank him for the advice politely and tell him i'll take it into consideration and get on with my exercises. And he leaves.
So i finish those exsercises and set the bench up straight to do some triceps extentions, and i get on with it. AND HE COMES BACK!
george constanza: that is some nerve!
me: yeah! and he tells me that i shouldn't be doing those kinds of extentions and that i would get biggger gains with some other kinds and offers to show me. So i tell him i know other ways and i'm doing these ones, now will he please let me get on with my workout.
And he gives me this look!
george constanza: he gave you a look?!?!?!
me: HE GIVES ME A LOOK! like i'm some retard and walks away.





I was really pissed by the end of all of this, i finish my workout early and go home. I am still really pissed about it:cmad:, i mean i was doing wheights 3-4 times bigger than he was. I'm sure it was well meant but i do not take advice from men in sparkly speedos!

I tried to find the article with the back thing i was doing on the site so i could post it but i couldn't find it again :(
He did however shake my confidence in the exercise and if i can't find it i'll draw some stick figures to explain it because i want your advice.
Bad day at the gym today

[Fran]

jag, I've been riding my bike everyday for a total of 5 miles, round-trip.

And I'm getting the bench out of my ex-stepdad's house soon, so what would be some good weight-lifting exercises for me to just lose the weight?

[jaguarr]

Every gym has some skinny jackass (he was skinny, wasn't he?) who thinks he knows more about working out than everyone else and feels compelled tell everyone what they should be doing with their workouts. I had one of these nimrods try to do that to me when I was doing deadlifts at a World Gym one time when I was traveling for business. He told me that was the most dangerous lift in the world and it will only weaken my back muscles. I laughed at him and told him to get away from me before I removed his spleen. Loudly. Everyone in the gym laughed at him because I'd been watching him do this crap to everyone else in the gym before he got to me. They were annoyed with him as much as I was. The little weasel then went to the squat rack and started doing curls in it. I immediately went over to it and told him to move because I wanted to do squats in the SQUAT rack. He threw a hissy fit but moved. I ramped up a couple sets of really heavy squats and then went over to the pulldown machine and told him to move. He then left the buliding. :D

jag

[Super Kal]

Clock your 2.27 miles every time you do it and use that in your daily fitday log. Or, you can clock it for a a week and then average it out for the week. One thing you should be trying to do is to make better time on that 2.27 miles every time you do it. You won't improve every time, because everyone has good days and bad days, but it's the effort that will make the difference for you. :up:

jag
I can't do that right now, because no matter how much stretching I do, or how much prep stretching or whatever, my joints can't handle that much stress... right now, I'm stuck at where I am, and I sure as hell can't afford any exercise machine.

[CyberFaust]

Every gym has some skinny jackass (he was skinny, wasn't he?) who thinks he knows more about working out than everyone else and feels compelled tell everyone what they should be doing with their workouts. I had one of these nimrods try to do that to me when I was doing deadlifts at a World Gym one time when I was traveling for business. He told me that was the most dangerous lift in the world and it will only weaken my back muscles. I laughed at him and told him to get away from me before I removed his spleen. Loudly. Everyone in the gym laughed at him because I'd been watching him do this crap to everyone else in the gym before he got to me. They were annoyed with him as much as I was. The little weasel then went to the squat rack and started doing curls in it. I immediately went over to it and told him to move because I wanted to do squats in the SQUAT rack. He threw a hissy fit but moved. I ramped up a couple sets of really heavy squats and then went over to the pulldown machine and told him to move. He then left the buliding. :D

jag
he wasn't really big, not even average, i would guess i will reach that level in about 2 weeks or so, so yeah, he was a wee lad

after he left me alone he went to do some shoulder exercises in the curl thing :D
i couldn't say i would remove his spleen because this was his first comment but if next time i see the same thing i'll throw a dumbbell at him, the one that i use! the big one! not the 10 pounds he uses

[jaguarr]

I can't do that right now, because no matter how much stretching I do, or how much prep stretching or whatever, my joints can't handle that much stress... right now, I'm stuck at where I am, and I sure as hell can't afford any exercise machine.

Just push yourself as much as you can every time out. That's the point. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

he wasn't really big, not even average, i would guess i will reach that level in about 2 weeks or so, so yeah, he was a wee lad

after he left me alone he went to do some shoulder exercises in the curl thing :D
i couldn't say i would remove his spleen because this was his first comment but if next time i see the same thing i'll throw a dumbbell at him, the one that i use! the big one! not the 10 pounds he uses

Just laugh at him. Loudly. That usually works best with those guys. Oh, and to finish my story, everyone in the gym clapped and whooped when that little run left the building. LOL! I guess he wasn't real popular. :D

jag

[Fran]

jag, I've been riding my bike everyday for a total of 5 miles, round-trip.

And I'm getting the bench out of my ex-stepdad's house soon, so what would be some good weight-lifting exercises for me to just lose the weight?

Moving to the recent page.

[CyberFaust]

That's a reall good story and i'll take your advice

i want to be able to tell that story one day :D

[Super Kal]

depending on the day, it takes me 25-35 minutes to do 12,000 ft., so 50 minutes - 1 hour 10 minutes for all of it... and my caloric intake ranges from 1000 - 1400 calories a day, but I've heard 3 different things about my caloric intake, so I have no idea what I'm doing, calorie wise.

[jaguarr]

That's a reall good story and i'll take your advice

i want to be able to tell that story one day :D

Keep at it. It just takes time and dedication. A few years from now you'll have all sorts of tales to tell. :up:

depending on the day, it takes me 25-35 minutes to do 12,000 ft., so 50 minutes - 1 hour 10 minutes for all of it... and my caloric intake ranges from 1000 - 1400 calories a day, but I've heard 3 different things about my caloric intake, so I have no idea what I'm doing, calorie wise.

Hmmm....1400 calories sounds awfully low, man. What's your current weight and height? You can PM me if you don't want to post it here. I'll see if I can help you figure out what your caloric intake should be. It's entirely possible that you're not eating enough and your metabolism has stalled out on you.

jag

[Fran]

Never mind...

[Super Kal]

plus I have this annoying pain on the inside of my left leg, and it feels like it's in the muscle...


ugh, I'm not having a good day today...

[kytrigger]

Never mind...
any weight lifting helps burn up fat and raise your metabolism. Just focus on lifting more reps and lower weights if you don't want to get big.

[Fran]

Well, I believe that I will be a bigger-built dude (I've got broad shoulders, etc.) for life, there's no changing that. I just want to lose the belly.

[Iceman]

Well, I believe that I will be a bigger-built dude (I've got broad shoulders, etc.) for life, there's no changing that.That's good isn't it?

[Fran]

Yeah, but I assumed kytrigger thought I was a smaller build.

[Iceman]

Oh right.

I'm not sure that any specific weightlifting exercises are preferable over others in terms of achieving weight loss. Generally doing resistance exercise and increasing muscle mass is the trigger that leads to a more efficent metabolism that will burn more fat while you're inactive. Aside from that it's about looking at your calorie intake and comparing with how much you need/burn and setting yourself long term targets. Come up with a weightlifting program according to your goals and keep up the cardio. :up:

[squeekness]

I got to use a new machine today, the one where you are sort of lying on your back and you push a sled up with your feet. The empty sled was 60 pounds and it felt like a ton. I suck. :( :D

[Iceman]

Sounds like a Leg Press

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/05-071-training/image002.jpg

Didn't know you were using weights :up:

[Admiral_N8]

Why are you asking us? Ask him. :huh: (I'd make you quit drinking pop altogether, personally, but I'm more hardline than most PT's).




Ya he said I shouldnt drink Pepsi, and I told him thats not gonna happen.

[Golgo-13]

Sounds like a Leg Press

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/05-071-training/image002.jpg

Didn't know you were using weights :up:

I wanna work out, where she works out!:oldrazz:

[squeekness]

Sounds like a Leg Press

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/05-071-training/image002.jpg

Didn't know you were using weights :up:Yup, that's the one. It's part of my therapy. Osteoarthritis responds well to strength training and so far that's been right. I've stopped taking my pain meds and I feel okay. This is something I will have to keep up with the rest of my life.

[jaguarr]

I wanna work out, where she works out!:oldrazz:

I want to be her bikini.

Yup, that's the one. It's part of my therapy. Osteoarthritis responds well to strength training and so far that's been right. I've stopped taking my pain meds and I feel okay. This is something I will have to keep up with the rest of my life.

Ever tried a Glucosamine/MSM supplementation, squeek? It's done wonders for my neck and shoulder joint issues. :up:

jag

[Iceman]

Yup, that's the one. It's part of my therapy. Osteoarthritis responds well to strength training and so far that's been right. I've stopped taking my pain meds and I feel okay. This is something I will have to keep up with the rest of my life.Women generally don't do enough resistance training. Their bones lose density as they get older and this leads to a lot of similar problems. :csad:

Hope it goes well.

[Iceman]

I wanna work out, where she works out!:oldrazz:

I want to be her bikini.This is why I find it easier to get motivated in the gym than at home.

[jaguarr]

This is why I find it easier to get motivated in the gym than at home.

It's why I find it easier to stay focused at home than I do in a public gym. :)

jag