The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[Iceman]

Quite understandable.

[squeekness]

Ever tried a Glucosamine/MSM supplementation, squeek? It's done wonders for my neck and shoulder joint issues. :up:

jag
They are awfully expensive and I wonder why it is that neither my PCP nor my ruematoligist suggested it. If it was a super drug, it seems to me they would have. :)

[Iceman]

They could tell you were poor :dry:

[jaguarr]

They are awfully expensive and I wonder why it is that neither my PCP nor my ruematoligist suggested it. If it was a super drug, it seems to me they would have. :)

Expensive? I get a bottle of 240 caps for $23. :huh: And it's not a drug, it's natural therapy. At any rate, it works well for me and a lot of other folks I know. If you know it doesn't work for you, not much sense in trying it I suppose. :)

jag

[squeekness]

LOL, I doubt that. It costs roughly $54 a month for a suppliment (Osteo BiFlex) without them being on sale and quite frankly, I dislike the idea of having to take something 3 times a day. I am likely to forget and then I wouldn't be doing myself any good. My grandmother has the same arthritis in her hips, she took them and they didn't help her at all. It could be the particular joint, my dad said it helped his knee.

[squeekness]

Expensive? I get a bottle of 240 caps for $23. :huh: And it's not a drug, it's natural therapy. At any rate, it works well for me and a lot of other folks I know. If you know it doesn't work for you, not much sense in trying it I suppose. :)

jagWhere are you buying those? I haven't seen any that cheap.

[jaguarr]

Where are you buying those? I haven't seen any that cheap.

You've got to learn to be a powah shoppah!!!!!!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/glumsm.html


:)

jag

[Iceman]

LOL, I doubt that. It costs roughly $54 a month for a suppliment (Osteo BiFlex) without them being on sale and quite frankly, I dislike the idea of having to take something 3 times a day. I am likely to forget and then I wouldn't be doing myself any good. My grandmother has the same arthritis in her hips, she took them and they didn't help her at all. It could be the particular joint, my dad said it helped his knee.I'd also find that a pain.

[squeekness]

You've got to learn to be a powah shoppah!!!!!!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/glumsm.html


:)

jagLOL, are you sure they aren't placebos from some Mexican drug lab? :p

[Colossal Spoons]

Just found out today from the local gym owner that the gym should be pretty empty this summer. So it'll just be me, the owner, 2 employees, and the handful of people smart enough to know you have to work out during the summer. :up:

[Iceman]

How big is your gym?

[Colossal Spoons]

It's on the small side. More than enough equipment but not Gold's huge. Just how I like it.

[enterthemadness]

Today it begins. I feel a little like Rocky. After not having the best dinner's Sunday, Mon, Tues, and Wed, I rebounded with a good clean dinner, though I had too much deli wheat bread yesterday with it.

The point is there's a 3-on-3 basketball extravganza on August 18th. I want to be in it (of course, living in Hurricane ally can easily ruin this). Come Monday...my workout will be different, as I rather get a six-pack...then put on muscle. I'm sure I'll have one cheat day though before this one-day basketball extravganza starts (I imagine I have something for July 4th). At first I was gonna have 2-3 donuts on the day the new Die Hard film comes out...but that's really close to July 4th, so I'm sure six pack or no six pack, I'll save the donuts for later date in the year.

But even with the training, I have no job (poor hours at last job after *new* management took over) so...it's not a sure thing I'll have the money for registration. Oh, and just found out no cookout plans for July 4th. Oooooooh, looks like 2 1/2 months of clean eating. I just have to remember...eat right...six-pack and basketball thing.

[kytrigger]

So I saved the really hot girl at the gym from possibly injuring herself badly this morning while working out.

I went into the freeweights room and she was on teh smith machine. As I walked by I noticed she was shaking like crazy, so I looked up at her face and saw her eyes closed and dripping sweat and pale, never a good combination in my book. Luckily I was close enough where I caught her as she collapsed and the weight was light enough where I could hold onto it long enough to lock it out.

Luckily she was okay (just screwed up majorly on her diet today) and every other guy at the gym jokingly hates me for actually having her talk to me now. I recieved the title "lucky bastard" and am damn proud of it.

[Fran]

"Do you know where the weight room is?"

"Nah, I'll check it out."

[mrvlknight21]

OK it is rant time! I usually train at home or at work. But a friend recently got a membership at a popular gym that had recently expanded and asked me to come with him. They had an advertisement that said they were offering 1 month memberships for free, no strings attached. I went last night and they said that I couldnt get the month free since I was a member there in 1998 (they have since changed ownership once and expanded twice). They allowed me to work out there last night for free. (so much for no strings attached)!

So I am looking around this huge gym with a ton of hammer strength equipment and very little free weights. Also, a waterfall, 3 leather couches and a 50" plasma TV in the lobby.

My friend tells me to check out the men's locker room. Surprisingly I saw the same 3 leather couches, another plasma TV, also marble floors in the showers and counters and a POOL TABLE. WTF! Why do they need a pool table in the locker room of a fitness center?!?!!?!?!?
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!

[enterthemadness]

OK it is rant time! I usually train at home or at work. But a friend recently got a membership at a popular gym that had recently expanded and asked me to come with him. They had an advertisement that said they were offering 1 month memberships for free, no strings attached. I went last night and they said that I couldnt get the month free since I was a member there in 1998 (they have since changed ownership once and expanded twice). They allowed me to work out there last night for free. (so much for no strings attached)!

So I am looking around this huge gym with a ton of hammer strength equipment and very little free weights. Also, a waterfall, 3 leather couches and a 50" plasma TV in the lobby.

My friend tells me to check out the men's locker room. Surprisingly I saw the same 3 leather couches, another plasma TV, also marble floors in the showers and counters and a POOL TABLE. WTF! Why do they need a pool table in the locker room of a fitness center?!?!!?!?!?
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!

Pretend they are having a bar fight? :huh:

The rec center has two tv's in the weight/exercise room. That's it.

:o sometimes I watch cartoons when I lift weights.

[JStorm]

OK it is rant time! I usually train at home or at work. But a friend recently got a membership at a popular gym that had recently expanded and asked me to come with him. They had an advertisement that said they were offering 1 month memberships for free, no strings attached. I went last night and they said that I couldnt get the month free since I was a member there in 1998 (they have since changed ownership once and expanded twice). They allowed me to work out there last night for free. (so much for no strings attached)!

So I am looking around this huge gym with a ton of hammer strength equipment and very little free weights. Also, a waterfall, 3 leather couches and a 50" plasma TV in the lobby.

My friend tells me to check out the men's locker room. Surprisingly I saw the same 3 leather couches, another plasma TV, also marble floors in the showers and counters and a POOL TABLE. WTF! Why do they need a pool table in the locker room of a fitness center?!?!!?!?!?
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!

:confused:

I could swear you told me this story a year, or so, ago.


No.. I haven't been drinking.

[Iceman]

:confused:

I could swear you told me this story a year, or so, ago.


No.. I haven't been drinking.Maybe he has :csad: :woot:

[JStorm]

Maybe he has :csad: :woot:

Believe it or not, Devil doesn't drink, smoke, chew tobacco, etc.

[CyberFaust]

crappy workout today, allthough i added to my wheights today i could barely make it through the cardio session, 2 miles felt like 10!
so, here's my workout:

2 mile run for cardio

the fly machine, raised it from 27 to 30kg today

leg extentions 150kg

chest press 42kg

biceps curls 12kg

shoulder press 32kg

[Iceman]

Believe it or not, Devil doesn't drink, smoke, chew tobacco, etc.:wow: All good for the fitness drive.

[Iceman]

crappy workout today, allthough i added to my wheights today i could barely make it through the cardio session, 2 miles felt like 10!
so, here's my workout:

2 mile run for cardio

the fly machine, raised it from 27 to 30kg today

leg extentions 150kg

chest press 42kg

biceps curls 12kg

shoulder press 32kgHow many sets/reps?

I had no energy today so my cardio workout was poor.

[CyberFaust]

How many sets/reps?

I had no energy today so my cardio workout was poor.
3 sets of 12 reps each

[Iceman]

3 sets of 12 reps eachDo you mix your bodyparts in each workout?

[CyberFaust]

Do you mix your bodyparts in each workout?
well, today was pecs, biceps, shoulders and cardio day, with added leg extentions because i've decided to ssplit my legs in 2 bits in my 2 workout routines, one with extentions, the other with curls


ahhh! and i did a full 5 minutes on the step climbing thing today :D
i was most proud :D

[JStorm]

:wow: All good for the fitness drive.

Tell me about it. No alcohol gut, no bad lungs for running, and his mouth will be in place to kiss his wife.. you know, for the cardio part of marriage.

[jaguarr]

So I saved the really hot girl at the gym from possibly injuring herself badly this morning while working out.

I went into the freeweights room and she was on teh smith machine. As I walked by I noticed she was shaking like crazy, so I looked up at her face and saw her eyes closed and dripping sweat and pale, never a good combination in my book. Luckily I was close enough where I caught her as she collapsed and the weight was light enough where I could hold onto it long enough to lock it out.

Luckily she was okay (just screwed up majorly on her diet today) and every other guy at the gym jokingly hates me for actually having her talk to me now. I recieved the title "lucky bastard" and am damn proud of it.

Good save! I guess she was lucky that you're at the gym to ogle and play grab ass instead of work out! LOL! She would have died if I'd been there because I'd have been too busy trying not to throw up from the heavy widowmaker squats I just did. Do work! :D (I'm just playin', I know you actually workout when you go the gym, dude.)

OK it is rant time! I usually train at home or at work. But a friend recently got a membership at a popular gym that had recently expanded and asked me to come with him. They had an advertisement that said they were offering 1 month memberships for free, no strings attached. I went last night and they said that I couldnt get the month free since I was a member there in 1998 (they have since changed ownership once and expanded twice). They allowed me to work out there last night for free. (so much for no strings attached)!

So I am looking around this huge gym with a ton of hammer strength equipment and very little free weights. Also, a waterfall, 3 leather couches and a 50" plasma TV in the lobby.

My friend tells me to check out the men's locker room. Surprisingly I saw the same 3 leather couches, another plasma TV, also marble floors in the showers and counters and a POOL TABLE. WTF! Why do they need a pool table in the locker room of a fitness center?!?!!?!?!?
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!

Any gym that spent their member's dues on pool tables and plasma screens instead of free weights probably wouldn't get my business either, Devil.

jag

[Super Kal]

I gotta admit, jag, the caloric advice you gave me paid off. I lost a pound just from what I did yesterday.


thanks for the help.

[jaguarr]

I gotta admit, jag, the caloric advice you gave me paid off. I lost a pound just from what I did yesterday.


thanks for the help.


A pound in one day? :huh: Seems unlikely and is probably water weight, but give it some time. It'll bring you results, dude. :up:

jag

[JStorm]

Good save! I guess she was lucky that you're at the gym to ogle and play grab ass instead of work out! LOL! She would have died if I'd been there because I'd have been too busy trying not to throw up from the heavy widowmaker squats I just did. Do work! :D (I'm just playin', I know you actually workout when you go the gym, dude.)



Any gym that spent their member's dues on pool tables and plasma screens instead of free weights probably wouldn't get my business either, Devil.

jag


I don't know what he is complaining about. It's not like he doesn't have a Rocky 4 type gym in his side yard.

[Super Kal]

A pound in one day? :huh: Seems unlikely and is probably water weight, but give it some time. It'll bring you results, dude. :up:

jag
hey water weight, fat weight, whatever it is, I'm a pound lighter, and that makes me very happy.

[jaguarr]

I don't know what he is complaining about. It's not like he doesn't have a Rocky 4 type gym in his side yard.

Devil's like me in that regard. He'd rather just have all the gear at home to use. If The Devil had a higher propensity for evil and debauchery, he'd be me. :)

hey water weight, fat weight, whatever it is, I'm a pound lighter, and that makes me very happy.

The thing with water weight is that it can fluctuate wildly during the day. I usually weigh 5-7 pounds more in the evenings than I do in the mornings, for example. Don't get too overly fixated on the numbers on your scale. Go by what you see in the mirror, what the tape measure tells you and how you feel. As you walk, you're not just burning fat you're also building your leg and back muscles and your cardiovascular system. What you have to keep in mind is that a square inch of muscle weighs more than a square inch of fat, so you may be dropping fat but not losing weight. Keep focused and stay on your course. I think that, now we've got your diet fixed, you're going to start seeing some more great progress. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

oh definitely... I usually go with what I see in the mirror anyways, and I can see a difference.

It may be small, but I do see it.

[JStorm]

Devil's like me in that regard. He'd rather just have all the gear at home to use. If The Devil had a higher propensity for evil and debauchery, he'd be me. :)

He just likes to put on the "good 'ol southern boy" attitude.


Actually, he's the ***hole type. You know, the guy you meet through a mutual friend, and when you have left said meeting, you think to yourself, "man, that guy was a prick."

He screams at me when we work out! :(

[jaguarr]

He screams at me when we work out! :(

Hahahaha! :D

jag

[JStorm]

Hahahaha! :D

jag

It's not funny.



Well, maybe a bit.

I only wish there wasn't five years difference on us.

How I would have loved to crack him on the football field.

"Hey, Devil, did you just let a 5'5" guy knock you out?"

"5'5".. I thought he was way bigger."

[jaguarr]

jag, I've been riding my bike everyday for a total of 5 miles, round-trip.

And I'm getting the bench out of my ex-stepdad's house soon, so what would be some good weight-lifting exercises for me to just lose the weight?

See link in sig.

jag

[JStorm]

See link in sig.

jag


"Bite into the weight room of discord and let it nourish away your fatness."


Jag is way too mean.



However, :up: Fran. I've read Jag's workout thesis, and it is a great way for someone who hasn't worked out much to start.

[Fran]

I'll have to wait to print it out, my laptop crapped out again.

[Iceman]

well, today was pecs, biceps, shoulders and cardio day, with added leg extentions because i've decided to ssplit my legs in 2 bits in my 2 workout routines, one with extentions, the other with curls


ahhh! and i did a full 5 minutes on the step climbing thing today :D
i was most proud :DHow many weight workouts do you do per week? How often would you repeat the above workout?

Do you mean a regular stair climber or the huge one?

Even 5 mins is a start though - Good work :up: :woot:

[Iceman]

It's on the small side. More than enough equipment but not Gold's huge. Just how I like it.Sounds cozy. Summer time is usually busy at my gym, until people get back from their holidays and forget about working out for another year :shakes head:

[Iceman]

Tell me about it. No alcohol gut, no bad lungs for running, and his mouth will be in place to kiss his wife.. you know, for the cardio part of marriage.Alcohol gut is resistant to exercise & smoking is basically reverse cardio :woot:

[JStorm]

Sounds cozy. Summer time is usually busy at my gym, until people get back from their holidays and forget about working out for another year :shakes head:

I live in a college town: University of Georgia. So, of course, there are other schools here for the kids who couldn't get into UGA. And, unlike UGA, said schools are not large enough to have an oncampus gym.

So, my gym consists of the "other" students in Athens, and like you said, they disappear for the summer.

Which doesn't make much sense to me. These kids drink like a fish, eat out all the time, and workout hard all year so they look teh sexy for that one beach trip for the summer.

I miss my home gym where people actually worked out. Now all I get is carbon copied blondes, wearing matching outfits, trying to look cute, so said frat boy might ask them to get drunk later. :confused:

I still get weird lookks when I do my "Jag workout."




Side note: The carbon copy blondes aren't really a bad thing. ;)

[JStorm]

Alcohol gut is resistant to exercise & smoking is basically reverse cardio :woot:

There are ways to a low calorie drunk. :up:

[Super Kal]

my goal:

to get to a healthy weight in 1-2 years

[JStorm]

my goal:

to get to a healthy weight in 1-2 years

Why not in less time?

Unless you are completely over weight, the goal is much closer than you think.

[Iceman]

I live in a college town: University of Georgia. So, of course, there are other schools here for the kids who couldn't get into UGA. And, unlike UGA, said schools are not large enough to have an oncampus gym.

So, my gym consists of the "other" students in Athens, and like you said, they disappear for the summer.

Which doesn't make much sense to me. These kids drink like a fish, eat out all the time, and workout hard all year so they look teh sexy for that one beach trip for the summer.

I miss my home gym where people actually worked out. Now all I get is carbon copied blondes, wearing matching outfits, trying to look cute, so said frat boy might ask them to get drunk later.

I still get weird lookks when I do my "Jag workout."




Side note: The carbon copy blondes aren't really a bad thing. ;)They'll probably take it more seriously when they're older. Right now the summer beach look is all that matters :csad:

Also anyone who imitates Jag is bound to get weird looks :woot:

There are ways to a low calorie drunk. :up:Alcohol calories tend to be stored in strange formations :( :woot:

Expand on your techniques :yay:

[BRUTAL]

This friggin diet is tough

[Fran]

It sucks ass to not be able to eat whatever I want, but I can at least feel results, and kinda see them already.

My goal: To lose the belly as soon as I can.

[Super Kal]

Why not in less time?

Unless you are completely over weight, the goal is much closer than you think.
I'm at 275, and my healthy weight should be at 125-150... it took me a long time to put this weight on, it's gonna take me a while to get it off, if I do everything right...

[JStorm]

They'll probably take it more seriously when they're older. Right now the summer beach look is all that matters :csad:

Also anyone who imitates Jag is bound to get weird looks :woot:

Alcohol calories tend to be stored in strange formations :( :woot:

Expand on your techniques :yay:

Come on, Ice/Locke, can't I have a few drinks tonight? It is Friday.

[BRUTAL]

I'm in a reverse situation Lucas, I have to eat 3271 calories a day... who the f**k is THAT hungry?

[Fran]

I'm in a reverse situation, I have to eat 3271 calories a day... who the f**k is THAT hungry?

Holy crap! :eek:

I take it you're planning on gaining some muscle?

[Iceman]

my goal:

to get to a healthy weight in 1-2 years

Why not in less time?

Unless you are completely over weight, the goal is much closer than you think.I prefer long term strategy. Obviously it's possible to move the weight much more quickly but the longer it takes to come off the longer it stays off (in theory :csad:).

This friggin diet is toughHow many cals/meals per day?

[JStorm]

I'm at 275, and my healthy weight should be at 125-150... it took me a long time to put this weight on, it's gonna take me a while to get it off, if I do everything right...

Devil and I have a friend, Cheese. Yes, his name is Cheese.

He weighed over 500lbs; he is now down to 260ish. And yes, it took him time.

However, depending on your height, you can reach your goal much sooner.

Allow me to explain. If you are 275 and your goal is 125-150, you are WAAAAAAAAY over weight.

For a better explanation, what is your exact height?

[jaguarr]

"Bite into the weight room of discord and let it nourish away your fatness."


Jag is way too mean.



However, :up: Fran. I've read Jag's workout thesis, and it is a great way for someone who hasn't worked out much to start.

Haha! :D Just spent some time updating the workout thesis, btw. Added my spin on stretching that I wrote up in here a few days ago and added a few more links of interest, including a link to a place to get more info on nutrition. :up:

This friggin diet is tough

Ya know, it really is. At first. But something strange starts happening after awhile. You start finding that you really enjoy eating clean and healthy and eating the crap you used to starts to lose it's appeal. Keep at it!

jag

[Iceman]

I'm at 275, and my healthy weight should be at 125-150... it took me a long time to put this weight on, it's gonna take me a while to get it off, if I do everything right...At least you've given yourself a lot of time. Once you get a system in place it shouldn't be too difficult to achieve. :up:

Come on, Ice/Locke, can't I have a few drinks tonight? It is Friday.Heh, go for it :up: You have permission.

No cider though! :cmad:

I'm in a reverse situation Lucas, I have to eat 3271 calories a day... who the f**k is THAT hungry?Protein shakes can take the place of some of the meals and some of them taste great.

[jaguarr]

It sucks ass to not be able to eat whatever I want, but I can at least feel results, and kinda see them already.

My goal: To lose the belly as soon as I can.

You've got the perfect build to sculpt yourself into a friggin' monster, dude.

jag

[Super Kal]

Devil and I have a friend, Cheese. Yes, his name is Cheese.

He weighed over 500lbs; he is now down to 260ish. And yes, it took him time.

However, depending on your height, you can reach your goal much sooner.

Allow me to explain. If you are 275 and your goal is 125-150, you are WAAAAAAAAY over weight.

For a better explanation, what is your exact height?
it sucks to be 5'7"

[jaguarr]

I'm in a reverse situation Lucas, I have to eat 3271 calories a day... who the f**k is THAT hungry?


Be quiet or I'll bump you up to 3500 and it will ALL be protein, which I'm sure your delicate tummy won't appreciate for awhile.

jag

[JStorm]

I prefer long term strategy. Obviously it's possible to move the weight much more quickly but the longer it takes to come off the longer it stays off (in theory :csad:).



I disagree. Unless said person is completely overweight, then give me 24 weeks and I will show said person major results.


Seroiusly, Ice/Locke, am I the only one who say red flags with the 275 to 125-150 range?

[Iceman]

He weighed over 500lbs;How tall was he? - actually that's pretty big at any height. If he can convert that to muscle he's going to be a scary guy!

[jaguarr]

it sucks to be 5'7"

I'm 5'6" and Storm is 5'5", so you won't get much sympathy from us on that front. :D You just stick to your goals and do the work. We've got your calories on track, now, so you should be good to go. :up:

jag

[Fran]

You've got the perfect build to sculpt yourself into a friggin' monster, dude.

jag

Really? Hmm... I'm 6'0", broad shoulders, I'm already strong, just want to gain more muscle and lose the belly.

[Iceman]

I disagree. Unless said person is completely overweight, then give me 24 weeks and I will show said person major results.


Seroiusly, Ice/Locke, am I the only one who say red flags with the 275 to 125-150 range?Obviously there's a lot of difference in his current and target weight. In 6 months he should be able to lose most of it and the weight will fall off easily at the beginning. Getting into that target range (which seems to be quite low) might take a bit more work.

[JStorm]

it sucks to be 5'7"

I imagine you have a large bone structure. If so, then you are incorrect, IMO.

Your goal should be 175ish, maybe a little less. I don't know.

I am 5'5" and weight 175, a little fat and a lot of muscle. Jag is a little bit taller than me, and I would think his ration is about the same.


Like I said above, for what you want, I think 175 is a great goal.

Serously, man, I am shorter than you, and I would not dream of 125.

Once you burn off the fat, and build muscle your body will almost play tricks on you. For example, you see that you are losing weight, but the scale says otherwise. That is becaus of muscle.

[Super Kal]

I'm 5'6" and Storm is 5'5", so you won't get much sympathy from us on that front. :D You just stick to your goals and do the work. We've got your calories on track, now, so you should be good to go. :up:

jag

I think my biggest fear is that I do all this walking, and 12/25/08 comes around, and I'll still be the size I am today...

lol, I know that's a tad extreme, but it's possible...

[Super Kal]

I imagine you have a large bone structure. If so, then you are incorrect, IMO.
I really don't know if I do or not

Your goal should be 175ish, maybe a little less. I don't know.

I am 5'5" and weight 175, a little fat and a lot of muscle. Jag is a little bit taller than me, and I would think his ration is about the same.


Like I said above, for what you want, I think 175 is a great goal.

Serously, man, I am shorter than you, and I would not dream of 125.

Once you burn off the fat, and build muscle your body will almost play tricks on you. For example, you see that you are losing weight, but the scale says otherwise. That is becaus of muscle.

ugh, the body is a cruel mistress...

[jaguarr]

Really? Hmm... I'm 6'0", broad shoulders, I'm already strong, just want to gain more muscle and lose the belly.

Yeah, really. You could be a friggin' hulk if you went for it.

I imagine you have a large bone structure. If so, then you are incorrect, IMO.

Your goal should be 175ish, maybe a little less. I don't know.

I am 5'5" and weight 175, a little fat and a lot of muscle. Jag is a little bit taller than me, and I would think his ration is about the same.


Like I said above, for what you want, I think 175 is a great goal.

Serously, man, I am shorter than you, and I would not dream of 125.

Once you burn off the fat, and build muscle your body will almost play tricks on you. For example, you see that you are losing weight, but the scale says otherwise. That is becaus of muscle.

I'd agree, 125-150 is very low. I'd look at clocking it at 165-175 if I was karot, since I know he really doesn't want to build a lot of muscle. At 5'6" I'm running ~198 right now. I was up to 205 for awhile, but I've dropped some bodyfat the last couple of months.

I think my biggest fear is that I do all this walking, and 12/25/08 comes around, and I'll still be the size I am today...

lol, I know that's a tad extreme, but it's possible...

Nahhh. You do the work and stick to your diet, I think you'll surprise yourself.

jag

[JStorm]

How tall was he? - actually that's pretty big at any height. If he can convert that to muscle he's going to be a scary guy!

Cheese did it all on his own. However, his height is much different that Kak's.

Kak needs to focus on a higher weight loss, I think.

A guy that is 275, 5'7", should not lose that much weight.

And like I said in my last post, 125-150 is insane. I WOULD NOT want that much loss.

My current is 175. My goal is fifteen pounds. However, with my body structure, it would not surprise me if I ended up 165ish and leaner. I think Kak's situation is similar.

[Fran]

Yeah, really. You could be a friggin' hulk if you went for it.

Well, my mom is getting a divorce from my stepdad, so I'm going to get my really good Marcy weight bench back in my hands soon. I can't wait to work on that. Once I get that in my apartment, should I rotate working on weights one day, with biking the next?

And I don't really want to buy a bunch of supplements, mostly for the expensive as hell price.

[Super Kal]

Cheese did it all on his own. However, his height is much different that Kak's.

Kak needs to focus on a higher weight loss, I think.

A guy that is 275, 5'7", should not lose that much weight.

And like I said in my last post, 125-150 is insane. I WOULD NOT want that much loss.

My current is 175. My goal is ten pounds. However, with my body structure, it would not surprise me if I ended up 165ish and leaner. I think Kak's situation is similar.
I wish I could be as optimistic as you...

[BRUTAL]

Holy crap! :eek:

I take it you're planning on gaining some muscle?

That's the plan.

How many cals/meals per day?

6 meals a day at 525 calories per meal.

Ya know, it really is. At first. But something strange starts happening after awhile. You start finding that you really enjoy eating clean and healthy and eating the crap you used to starts to lose it's appeal. Keep at it!

jag

What I'm eating is actually fine, I eat healthier than most everyone, it's HOW MUCH, or in my case how little, I eat that is the issue.

[Fran]

I wish I could be as optimistic as you...

The only person in your way is you, if you keep down-talking to yourself.

[jaguarr]

Well, my mom is getting a divorce from my stepdad, so I'm going to get my really good Marcy weight bench back in my hands soon. I can't wait to work on that. Once I get that in my apartment, should I rotate working on weights one day, with biking the next?

And I don't really want to buy a bunch of supplements, mostly for the expensive as hell price.

The link in my sig will set you up pretty well, I think, dude. We can modify the routines to suit your equipment later on, but reading it should give you the gist of what you need to know up front.

jag

[jaguarr]

What I'm eating is actually fine, I eat healthier than most everyone, it's HOW MUCH, or in my case how little, I eat that is the issue.


Were you eating more than the 3200 we've got you at prior to starting your training?

jag

[BRUTAL]

Protein shakes can take the place of some of the meals and some of them taste great.

Noted...

jag, that site you pointed me to for the Whey should have some good shakes yes?

Be quiet or I'll bump you up to 3500 and it will ALL be protein, which I'm sure your delicate tummy won't appreciate for awhile.

jag

2 Ulcers and IBS + Extra Protien = ... jesus... :csad:

[BRUTAL]

Were you eating more than the 3200 we've got you at prior to starting your training?

jag

Oh hell no, I'm struggling to fit in all these damn meals... how do you stay hungry?

[JStorm]

I wish I could be as optimistic as you...

You can, Kak! :up:

I am fighting genes, a short, thick boned body struture, and the urge for junk food from time to time.

This game is not easy, and I hope that we have not painted that picture for you.

Seriousy, man, if you watch your diet, workout(high intensity), and jog/walk/bike for over 2-3 miles three or four times a week, like Jag said, you will surprise yourself. I just think, you will surpise yourself sooner rathter than later.

[Super Kal]

The only person in your way is you, if you keep down-talking to yourself.
i never down talk myself... but it is hard to motivate yourself when you're alone doing your exercise...


that's why I'm always here at SHH :D

[Iceman]

Cheese did it all on his own. However, his height is much different that Kak's.

Kak needs to focus on a higher weight loss, I think.

A guy that is 275, 5'7", should not lose that much weight.

And like I said in my last post, 125-150 is insane. I WOULD NOT want that much loss.

My current is 175. My goal is fifteen pounds. However, with my body structure, it would not surprise me if I ended up 165ish and leaner. I think Kak's situation is similar.It's a hell of a lot of weight to lose (but he's given himself 2 years which is a sensible timeframe) but some people prefer a lean look with no obvious muscularity. 150 at the top of the range isn't necessarily unhealthy for someone who's 5'7. 125 definitely sounds a bit underweight though.

[jaguarr]

Oh hell no, I'm struggling to fit in all these damn meals... how do you stay hungry?

It gets easier to eat all that food, I promise. The cardio helps to boost the metabolism and hunger, as does going balls to the walls on your workouts. I'm eating 3500-4000 calories per day, depending on my caloric expenditure for the day. It took me awhile to work up to that.

Oh, and Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold is the best combo of taste, quality and price. Bodybuilding.com or supplementwarehouse.com are the best sources, IMHO.

jag

[Iceman]

Noted... I have two shakes a day and it'd be very difficult replacing those with solid meals.

Doing a bit of extra cardio can help with feeling hungry.

[JStorm]

It's a hell of a lot of weight to lose (but he's given himself 2 years which is a sensible timeframe) but some people prefer a lean look with no obvious muscularity. 150 at the top of the range isn't necessarily unhealthy for someone who's 5'7. 125 definitely sounds a bit underweight though.


Agreed.

It is rather hard giving advice on the boards. Having never seen any of you, none of us really know where to start.


However, I would never wish to be 125. I was 150 in high school and looked like a cracked-hobbit.

I will never have Brad Pitt's abs. I will never have a "300" type chest. But I can work with what Ihave, and that's all I want Kak to know.

[Super Kal]

It's a hell of a lot of weight to lose (but he's given himself 2 years which is a sensible timeframe) but some people prefer a lean look with no obvious muscularity. 150 at the top of the range isn't necessarily unhealthy for someone who's 5'7. 125 definitely sounds a bit underweight though.
well, this is what I'm getting from fitday.com:

Current Weight
Your weight is 272 lb as of 06/01/2007.

Weight Goal
Your goal is to weigh 150 lb by 12/25/2008

Goal Progress
You are currently 122 lb above the target weight.

The deadline for your goal is 573 days (81 weeks, 6 days) away.

To meet your goal you need to lose about 1.49 lb per week.

[JStorm]

It gets easier to eat all that food, I promise. The cardio helps to boost the metabolism and hunger, as does going balls to the walls on your workouts. I'm eating 3500-4000 calories per day, depending on my caloric expenditure for the day. It took me awhile to work up to that.

Oh, and Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold is the best combo of taste, quality and price. Bodybuilding.com or supplementwarehouse.com are the best sources, IMHO.

jag

:eek:

I eat six times a day, and I don't hit that range.

I'sa scared.

[CyberFaust]

How many weight workouts do you do per week? How often would you repeat the above workout?

Do you mean a regular stair climber or the huge one?

Even 5 mins is a start though - Good work :up: :woot:

the huge one, i have 2 workout days, one with chest biceps cardio one side of my legs and shoulders

and one with back(lower and upper), abbs and the otehr side of my legs with a seven minute mile warmup

i do one of these (so 2 days workout) and then one day off, then i do them again. so i have 4 days a week or there about with 2 days break for every muscle group, i once got the overtrainer of the year award you know :D

[JStorm]

well, this is what I'm getting from fitday.com:

Current Weight
Your weight is 272 lb as of 06/01/2007.

Weight Goal
Your goal is to weigh 150 lb by 12/25/2008

Goal Progress
You are currently 122 lb above the target weight.

The deadline for your goal is 573 days (81 weeks, 6 days) away.

To meet your goal you need to lose about 1.49 lb per week.

Seriously, Kak, I would up the weight from 150 to 175. It's your body, and I will not take offense if you do not. But.. I don't know.. this just sounds extreme.

[Iceman]

Agreed.

It is rather hard giving advice on the boards. Having never seen any of you, none of us really know where to start.


However, I would never wish to be 125. I was 150 in high school and looked like a cracked-hobbit.

I will never have Brad Pitt's abs. I will never have a "300" type chest. But I can work with what Ihave, and that's all I want Kak to know.All the height Vs weight health guides you get at the doctors that determine whether you're underweight/normal/overweight/hugely overweight etc are based on a lean person. People like yourself will always be towards the upper end of the normal range. Someone like Arnie would probably have been classified as overweight even though he was all muscle. However, now he is just fat :csad:

[Super Kal]

Seriously, Kak, I would up the weight from 150 to 175. It's your body, and I will not take offense if you do not. But.. I don't know.. this just sounds extreme.
I'll consider it

[JStorm]

I'll consider it

Boldy go, buddy, boldy go.

I am always here if you need any extra butt kicking! :up:

[CyberFaust]

I'm in a reverse situation Lucas, I have to eat 3271 calories a day... who the f**k is THAT hungry?
i am! :D

[JStorm]

All the height Vs weight health guides you get at the doctors that determine whether you're underweight/normal/overweight/hugely overweight etc are based on a lean person. People like yourself will always be towards the upper end of the normal range. Someone like Arnie would probably have been classified as overweight even though he was all muscle. However, now he is just fat :csad:

My brother is lean. If he's hit the gym properly and eat a little better, he's be teh fit.

Why did I get stuck with the Devito genes?! :(

[Super Kal]

Boldy go, buddy, boldy go.
you know it :)

I am always here if you need any extra butt kicking! :up:
thanks for the encouragement.

[Iceman]

the huge one, i have 2 workout days, one with chest biceps cardio one side of my legs and shoulders

and one with back(lower and upper), abbs and the otehr side of my legs with a seven minute mile warmup

i do one of these (so 2 days workout) and then one day off, then i do them again. so i have 4 days a week or there about with 2 days break for every muscle group, i once got the overtrainer of the year award you know :DHaha :woot:

I cut out the legs for a separate day and leave it at 3 weight sessions per week but that's certainly an improvement on your previous killer regime. I find combining the major bodyparts (legs, chest & back) leads to losing intensity somewhere along the line.

[jaguarr]

I'll consider it

Even if you change your long term goals, the dietary allowances we mapped out for you yesterday still apply, so don't muck with those for the moment. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

Even if you change your long term goals, the dietary allowances we mapped out for you yesterday still apply, so don't muck with those for the moment. :up:

jag
oh, of course, jag... I'm not gonna be straying from that for a really long time.

[jaguarr]

oh, of course, jag... I'm not gonna be straying from that for a really long time.

Let's see where you're at in 3 months and then we'll reevaluate. :up:

jag

[JStorm]

Let's see where you're at in 3 months and then we'll reevaluate. :up:

jag

Picture time!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/StrmyKntz-01142007071157.jpg

Evaluate away, buddy!

[CyberFaust]

Haha :woot:

I cut out the legs for a separate day and leave it at 3 weight sessions per week but that's certainly an improvement on your previous killer regime. I find combining the major bodyparts (legs, chest & back) leads to losing intensity somewhere along the line.
well this one feels like less, but i don't think i would have had the time at this point to hit it EVERY day hard, because i have some exams in a month, i don't whimp out on any sets, and to cut some time on the workout i usually do 2 sets without break, like this:
let's say today, shoulders and leg extentions, i do one shoulder press set and then do one leg extension set, and then one shoulder press set, and then one leg extension set) no time-outs except for about 1 minute or so, i do give myself 5 minutes after cardio to stop my head from spinning.

but i've been told people see the difference, and now my shirts are tighter on my shoulders arms and chest so i'm happy about that, still no sign of my abbs though, i suppose monday i'll take the cardio up from 2 miles up to 2.5 and add a 10% incline, same speed, 7mph :D

[jaguarr]

Picture time!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/StrmyKntz-01142007071157.jpg

Evaluate away, buddy!

Pretty good, dude. Keep those rack chins going and your shoulders will get even broader. :up:

jag

[JStorm]

Pretty good, dude. Keep those rack chins going and your shoulders will get even broader. :up:

jag

That pic is actually a lie. I was at my leanest a few years ago, and that is when that pic was taken.

Now I have a small tire around my waist that I need to get rid off. :(

[jaguarr]

That pic is actually a lie. I was at my leanest a few years ago, and that is when that pic was taken.

Now I have a small tire around my waist that I need to get rid off. :(


Oh, well then do work, fatty! :cmad:

jag

[BRUTAL]

It gets easier to eat all that food, I promise. The cardio helps to boost the metabolism and hunger, as does going balls to the walls on your workouts. I'm eating 3500-4000 calories per day, depending on my caloric expenditure for the day. It took me awhile to work up to that.

Oh, and Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold is the best combo of taste, quality and price. Bodybuilding.com or supplementwarehouse.com are the best sources, IMHO.

jag

So I could have a Whey Shake as a meal replacement.

[JStorm]

Oh, well then do work, fatty! :cmad:

jag

I working on it!

Speaking of, I talked to Devil and he said to run it past you: I would like to up my jog to 4 or 5 miles, 4-5 times a week.

I am now jogging 2-3 miles, 3-4 times a week. Obvioulsy I would up my intake of calories; but do you see a problem with this?

[jaguarr]

So I could have a Whey Shake as a meal replacement.

Yep. I do 2-3 shakes a day, depending on if it's a lifting day or not. And my shakes are usually ~72 grams of protein a pop. I just don't have time to eat chicken or tuna all damn day in order to hit my protein ratios.

I working on it!

Speaking of, I talked to Devil and he said to run it past you: I would like to up my jog to 4 or 5 miles, 4-5 times a week.

I am now jogging 2-3 miles, 3-4 times a week. Obvioulsy I would up my intake of calories; but do you see a problem with this?

You can do that, but be prepared to see some of your muscle mass drop off along with the fat and also be prepared to see your lifting capacity drop a bit as well since your glycogen stores will be depleted more often.

jag

[Super Kal]

is there anything else I should be doing besides walking?... I'm always confused with everything I see on TV and commercials...

[JStorm]

You can do that, but be prepared to see some of your muscle mass drop off along with the fat and also be prepared to see your lifting capacity drop a bit as well since your glycogen stores will be depleted more often.

jag

I don't want that.

I think I will stick to the 3-4 mile/day with my intense workouts. :up:

Maybe once in awhile I'll jog a little further for variety.

[jaguarr]

is there anything else I should be doing besides walking?... I'm always confused with everything I see on TV and commercials...

With your current fitness level and goals, I'd urge you to stick with walking and the light jogging you've been doing. Besides, it's FREE! :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

I don't want that.

I think I will stick to the 3-4 mile/day with my intense workouts. :up:

Maybe once in awhile I'll jog a little further for variety.

Whatever you do, keep your BCAA intake up during your workouts and runs and that will help you protect your muscle. You could do some HIIT style stuff with your runs to make them a little more intense, though.

jag

[JStorm]

is there anything else I should be doing besides walking?... I'm always confused with everything I see on TV and commercials...

Try sprints. Run as hard as you can for fifty yards, and then walk back as slow as you want(that is one). Repeat atleast 5 times, or howver many you can do.

[Super Kal]

With your current fitness level and goals, I'd urge you to stick with walking and the light jogging you've been doing. Besides, it's FREE! :up:

jag
Try sprints. Run as hard as you can for fifty yards, and then walk back as slow as you want(that is one). Repeat atleast 5 times, or howver many you can do.
alrighty then. :up:

[BRUTAL]

Yep. I do 2-3 shakes a day, depending on if it's a lifting day or not. And my shakes are usually ~72 grams of protein a pop. I just don't have time to eat chicken or tuna all damn day in order to hit my protein ratios.

jag

Well with my diet of:

3271 calories a day
247g Protein
329g Carbs
107g Fat

Should that be only for LIFTING DAYS?

[jaguarr]

Well with my diet of:

3271 calories a day
247g Protein
329g Carbs
107g Fat

Should that be only for LIFTING DAYS?

For you, no. Keep it consistent. I do something kind of funky with carb cycling on non-lift days where I lower my carb intake a bit. It's not necessary with what you're doing, though. Just keep it at the 3271. :up:

jag

[JStorm]

All this talk about working out is making me hungry!

It's my day off, I think I will eat lunch and go get a workout it.


Carbon-copied blondes here I come!!!

[jaguarr]

Eat! Do work! I'm almost done with a ~1000 calorie lunch. Mmmm...tuna! :D

jag

[Super Kal]

i tend to always keep my food intake kinda small since I've started... so that it all adds up to the needed intake.

[JStorm]

Eat! Do work! I'm almost done with a ~1000 calorie lunch. Mmmm...tuna! :D

jag

How do you eat so much?

I just ate lunch, slightly light because I am about work out. But, even still, even if this was a regular day, and I was home, from work, eating lunch, all I would eat would a sanwich with a peice of fruit, drink a V8, and that is it.

There is no way all of that is 1000 calories.. is there? :confused:


We have to be on entirely different eating habits.

[BRUTAL]

For you, no. Keep it consistent. I do something kind of funky with carb cycling on non-lift days where I lower my carb intake a bit. It's not necessary with what you're doing, though. Just keep it at the 3271. :up:

jag

Ok then

[jaguarr]

How do you eat so much?

I just ate lunch, slightly light because I am about work out. But, even still, even if this was a regular day, and I was home, from work, eating lunch, all I would eat would a sanwich with a peice of fruit, drink a V8, and that is it.

There is no way all of that is 1000 calories.. is there? :confused:


We have to be on entirely different eating habits.


Breakfast and lunch are always ~1000 calories (and no, I don't eat crap). I sprinkle lower calorie meals inbetween and then dinner is somewhat light on workout days since I workout in the evenings or a little bit larger on non-workout days. Wanna get big? Gotta eat big. Cardio helps keep me from becoming a fatty and keeps me hungry.

jag

[JStorm]

Breakfast and lunch are always ~1000 calories (and no, I don't eat crap). I sprinkle lower calorie meals inbetween and then dinner is somewhat light on workout days since I workout in the evenings or a little bit larger on non-workout days. Wanna get big? Gotta eat big. Cardio helps keep me from becoming a fatty and keeps me hungry.

jag

Nope.. don't want to get big.

I eat heavy throughout the day as well. After workouts, it's a protein shake and light dinner for me.


I just want to be in shape. You want to be a beast.

I can still take ya, though! :up:

[jaguarr]

Nope.. don't want to get big.

I eat heavy throughout the day as well. After workouts, it's a protein shake and light dinner for me.


I just want to be in shape. You want to be a beast.

I can still take ya, though! :up:

Actually, I've been working on trimming some of the excess bodyfat from the continuous bulk that I've been on. I do it VERY slowly, though, trying to preserve as much muscle as I can while I'm at it. The other thing that sucks for me is that the stuff they've got me on for my low testosterone causes a bit of belly bloat for me. I'm looking forward to when they'll be able to switch me off of it to some other stuff that hopefully won't give me that issue.

jag

[JStorm]

Actually, I've been working on trimming some of the excess bodyfat from the continuous bulk that I've been on. I do it VERY slowly, though, trying to preserve as much muscle as I can while I'm at it. The other thing that sucks for me is that the stuff they've got me on for my low testosterone causes a bit of belly bloat for me. I'm looking forward to when they'll be able to switch me off of it to some other stuff that hopefully won't give me that issue.

jag

Medication that causes ****e like that sucks.

I took acne pills a fews years back(don't ask me why I got acne at 22 rather than 12), and the pills sped up my metabolism. I ate fast food at least three times a week and I still lost weight.

That COULD NOT have been good for me.

[Super Kal]

sure doesn't sound right...

[enterthemadness]

Medication that causes ****e like that sucks.

I took acne pills a fews years back(don't ask me why I got acne at 22 rather than 12), and the pills sped up my metabolism. I ate fast food at least three times a week and I still lost weight.

That COULD NOT have been good for me.

Got to eat food...that tastes good (but easn't good for your body) more often.

My bro has a better metabolism than me. :csad: don't have that. At least I eat better than him.

[JStorm]

sure doesn't sound right...

Too true, Kak!

[enterthemadness]

Sooo.....:dry:...what did everyone have for dinner?

I had a home made burrito. Mission Hill Whole Wheat Carb Balance Soft Burrito with one lean turkey meat and one sliced banana (very sweet and good). And before that...a peeled red apple. Now I'm gonna have some water.

[BRUTAL]

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3042/174157685893hd7.jpg

From about 15 minutes ago...

[mrvlknight21]

:confused:

I could swear you told me this story a year, or so, ago.


No.. I haven't been drinking.


I almost told you this...they had the couches and tv in the lobby before, BUT have added the 40 treadmills w/ individual tvs, the tvs, couches and pool table in the locker room and (not sure if I mentioned this)-they had about 40-50 hammer strength machines, but only 1 squat rack!

[mrvlknight21]

Dang this board has been active. And by the way, Storm, you are pulling a Bella right now-that pic you posted is years old!!!!

[jaguarr]

A gym is NOT supposed to have f**king COUCHES! :down

Enjoy that protein, BRUTEHOLE! :up:

jag

[BRUTAL]

A gym is NOT supposed to have f**king COUCHES! :down

Enjoy that protein, BRUTEHOLE! :up:

jag

It's either BRUTE or BRUTHOLE don't go mixin' s**t up... and I will, now that one shake constitutes a meal?

[mrvlknight21]

Devil's like me in that regard. He'd rather just have all the gear at home to use. If The Devil had a higher propensity for evil and debauchery, he'd be me. :)



The thing with water weight is that it can fluctuate wildly during the day. I usually weigh 5-7 pounds more in the evenings than I do in the mornings, for example. Don't get too overly fixated on the numbers on your scale. Go by what you see in the mirror, what the tape measure tells you and how you feel. As you walk, you're not just burning fat you're also building your leg and back muscles and your cardiovascular system. What you have to keep in mind is that a square inch of muscle weighs more than a square inch of fat, so you may be dropping fat but not losing weight. Keep focused and stay on your course. I think that, now we've got your diet fixed, you're going to start seeing some more great progress. :up:

jag


So, Im not evil? Nah, youre right, Im one of the good guys!:woot:

[jaguarr]

It's either BRUTE or BRUTHOLE don't go mixin' s**t up... and I will, now that one shake constitutes a meal?

Sorry, my apologies for the extra "E". I go three scoops at a time with the stuff, but it will take time to work up to it for you. Go with a scoop and a half to two scoops to start with. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

He just likes to put on the "good 'ol southern boy" attitude.


Actually, he's the ***hole type. You know, the guy you meet through a mutual friend, and when you have left said meeting, you think to yourself, "man, that guy was a prick."

He screams at me when we work out! :(

WTF!
I thought we were friends!

[mrvlknight21]

It's not funny.



Well, maybe a bit.

I only wish there wasn't five years difference on us.

How I would have loved to crack him on the football field.

"Hey, Devil, did you just let a 5'5" guy knock you out?"

"5'5".. I thought he was way bigger."

Gotta catch me first mofo!

[BRUTAL]

Sorry, my apologies for the extra "E". I go three scoops at a time with the stuff, but it will take time to work up to it for you. Go with a scoop and a half to two scoops to start with. :up:

jag

With the reg 8 oz?

[mrvlknight21]

A gym is NOT supposed to have f**king COUCHES! :down

Enjoy that protein, BRUTEHOLE! :up:

jag

I thought you would be more upset that the ratio of hammer strength machines to squat racks is 40-1! (same for treadmills)

[jaguarr]

With the reg 8 oz?


Nahh, I use more water when I mix more powder in. Like a double or triple shake. :up: A lot of people like milk with it, but I'm a bit lactose intolerant so I avoid that, personally.

jag

[jaguarr]

I thought you would be more upset that the ratio of hammer strength machines to squat racks is 40-1! (same for treadmills)

I was blinded by the plasma tv's, pool table and the f**king couches! Is it a gym or a lounge? :huh:

jag

[Iceman]

That's the plan.



6 meals a day at 525 calories per meal.Similar to me. 2 shakes mean only 4 meals which is probably only one more than you would have anyway. A shake is so much easier to digest than hard food.

Picture time!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/JStorm18/StrmyKntz-01142007071157.jpg

Evaluate away, buddy!

Dang this board has been active. And by the way, Storm, you are pulling a Bella right now-that pic you posted is years old!!!!Haha, JStorm trying to cheat us! :csad:

[Iceman]

well this one feels like less, but i don't think i would have had the time at this point to hit it EVERY day hard, because i have some exams in a month, i don't whimp out on any sets, and to cut some time on the workout i usually do 2 sets without break, like this:
let's say today, shoulders and leg extentions, i do one shoulder press set and then do one leg extension set, and then one shoulder press set, and then one leg extension set) no time-outs except for about 1 minute or so, i do give myself 5 minutes after cardio to stop my head from spinning.

but i've been told people see the difference, and now my shirts are tighter on my shoulders arms and chest so i'm happy about that, still no sign of my abbs though, i suppose monday i'll take the cardio up from 2 miles up to 2.5 and add a 10% incline, same speed, 7mph Exams can F with routines. :(
From what you're doing it sounds like including the leg extensions will probably have some negative effect on the other exercises as you won't be able to put as much into them as you would minus the leg extensions. Do whatever you can while you've got your exams on and think about modifications afterwards....if you feel they're required.

Glad to hear you're seeing results :up:

Whatever you do, keep your BCAA intake up during your workouts and runs and that will help you protect your muscle. You could do some HIIT style stuff with your runs to make them a little more intense, though.

jagI'm looking to replace some of my 45mins -1hr cardio sessions with about 20 minutes of HIIT.

Carbon-copied blondes here I come!!!What more motivation do you need! :woot:

A gym is NOT supposed to have f**king COUCHES!Word.

[L.A.]

I play basketball 2-3 times a week. 2 hours a day. Which part of the body does that help?

[Iceman]

Fat burn & general cardio conditioning. Not really focused on a particular part of the body.

[BRUTAL]

Depending on how active the games are he could be getting a good quad and calf workout, not building mass of course, but definitely toning.

[Iceman]

Toning yeah :up:

If he's doing it for two hours straight without refuelling he's probably losing mass.

[BRUTAL]

2 hours straight of anything without refueling is pretty pointless

[Iceman]

I used to do that with 6-a-side football a few years ago. It's amazing for cardio conditioning and it was more about playing a competitive sport and having a laugh rather than focusing on fitness goals. Completely impossible to put on mass while doing that though - 90% of soccer players are skin and bone. :(

[L.A.]

So thats a good way to lose weight? Im 6ft at around 215, and I want get back to under 200. I ate alot junk last couple of years but lately i've been cutting back. What are some tips to get me back to under 200?

[BRUTAL]

I need a good complex carb before I hit the gym, any good suggestions? I been doing oatmeal with a bit of peanut butter but I was wondering if there are any supplements or anything that might work better.

[jaguarr]

I need a good complex carb before I hit the gym, any good suggestions? I been doing oatmeal with a bit of peanut butter but I was wondering if there are any supplements or anything that might work better.

I eat about 1/2 cup of oatmeal about 90 minutes before I lift and then get a protein shake about 15-20 minutes before I lift. Cheap and easy, kinda like me. :o

jag

[mrvlknight21]

I eat about 1/2 cup of oatmeal about 90 minutes before I lift and then get a protein shake about 15-20 minutes before I lift. Cheap and easy, kinda like me. :o

jag


cheap and easy??? sounds like a few girls I know.

[JStorm]

WTF!
I thought we were friends!
Dude, you are an arse to most people. We had this conversation; our entire group is that way. :up:


Dang this board has been active. And by the way, Storm, you are pulling a Bella right now-that pic you posted is years old!!!!
Atleast I exist!

[JStorm]

cheap and easy??? sounds like a woman I know.

Mrs. Mrvl is gonna be teh pissed!

[mrvlknight21]

Dude, you are an arse to most people. We had this conversation; our entire group is that way. :up:



Atleast I exist!

What are you talking about? People love me...:heart: especially you.

[mrvlknight21]

Mrs. Mrvl is gonna be teh pissed!

Trust me, she is NOT cheap......or easy!

[JStorm]

Too late.

Now you will have to see ol' Frankie boy in my avatar.

[JStorm]

I told you guys he was an arse!


Seriously.. he looks like he's pissed at you right now, everyone.

[Iceman]

^ Old married couple :woot:

[mrvlknight21]

nice avatar storm...that guy looks like a BEAST!

[JStorm]

^ Old married couple :woot:
You know you want my avatar!

nice avatar storm...that guy looks like a BEAST!
Show the wife! :up:

[jaguarr]

^ Old married couple :woot:


Haha! :D

jag

[user123456789]

I need a good complex carb before I hit the gym, any good suggestions? I been doing oatmeal with a bit of peanut butter but I was wondering if there are any supplements or anything that might work better.
potatoes
rice

[CyberFaust]

Exams can F with routines. :(
From what you're doing it sounds like including the leg extensions will probably have some negative effect on the other exercises as you won't be able to put as much into them as you would minus the leg extensions. Do whatever you can while you've got your exams on and think about modifications afterwards....if you feel they're required.

Glad to hear you're seeing results :up:


thanks. Jag said i should be doing legs, so i am doing legs, when i'm done with all this time consuming crap, (in about 2 months) and after my beloved movie is shot and edited and launched i'll take my time with my routine, but for now with the final version of the script i just found out i have a shirtless (if not underwear or full nude) shot to do so turns out i really need to look my best for it.:trans:

[enterthemadness]

Starting Monday, I'm gonna increase my cardio time at the rec. Instead of 7 minutes on the weight bike...10 and 30 mins playing basketball. This will be three days a week and I will still lift weights there. At home I'll ride the bike a couple days a week and walk a lot in the back yard, when I let one of the cats outside to get some exercise. (She pees on teh floor, thus lives in a cage)

Is this enough cardio to increase my metabolizm?

[Arkady Rossovich]

Walk alot in the backyard?I think you would burn more by walking to somewhere,instead of around in circles.Bike riding is a very easy,and very effective way of getting exercise.

[enterthemadness]

Walk alot in the backyard?I think you would burn more by walking to somewhere,instead of around in circles.Bike riding is a very easy,and very effective way of getting exercise.

Well............it's better than sitting on my ass on the computer.:dry:which isn't a bad thing...but still.

[Super Kal]

I am proud and happy to say that I have FINALLY gotten down to 270... it may be water, it may be fat, but the point is, I'm now at 270, and that alone for me is a miracle.

I wont weigh myself again until the end of this week.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm gonna make my cut more serious and not only continue to eat less calories and do more cardio, but I'm gonna up my reps and decrease the weight on all my lifts. I'm currently doing 6X6X6 of pretty heavy weight. What's a good number of reps for people looking to add definition? I was thinking 10. I'm sure there's no "definite" answer but I gotta start somewhere.

[jaguarr]

I am proud and happy to say that I have FINALLY gotten down to 270... it may be water, it may be fat, but the point is, I'm now at 270, and that alone for me is a miracle.

I wont weigh myself again until the end of this week.

Awesome! Do work! :up:

I'm gonna make my cut more serious and not only continue to eat less calories and do more cardio, but I'm gonna up my reps and decrease the weight on all my lifts. I'm currently doing 6X6X6 of pretty heavy weight. What's a good number of reps for people looking to add definition? I was thinking 10. I'm sure there's no "definite" answer but I gotta start somewhere.

Go with 3x10's and drop the weight down a bit. Up your cardio to 20 minutes after EVERY workout and 45 minutes of steady state on off days. Keep one day a week reserved for not doing a damn thing but resting. Keep your caloric intake about the same at first and see where that takes you after a month or two of that. If you're not seeing the results you're after, THEN we'll talk about backing calories off. :up:

jag

[L.A.]

Hey my friend told me if you drink cold water or ice water you can gain weight easily! Is that true:confused:

[Colossal Spoons]

Go with 3x10's and drop the weight down a bit. Up your cardio to 20 minutes after EVERY workout and 45 minutes of steady state on off days. Keep one day a week reserved for not doing a damn thing but resting. Keep your caloric intake about the same at first and see where that takes you after a month or two of that. If you're not seeing the results you're after, THEN we'll talk about backing calories off. :up:

jag

Good stuff. :up:

Cardio after lifting is gonna be a new experience. I could use a new split too. Thinkin about tryin that push/pull business. That'd make it back/tris and chest/bis?

[user123456789]

Starting Monday, I'm gonna increase my cardio time at the rec. Instead of 7 minutes on the weight bike...10 and 30 mins playing basketball. This will be three days a week and I will still lift weights there. At home I'll ride the bike a couple days a week and walk a lot in the back yard, when I let one of the cats outside to get some exercise. (She pees on teh floor, thus lives in a cage)

Is this enough cardio to increase my metabolizm?
lifting > cardio

both are important though

[jaguarr]

Hey my friend told me if you drink cold water or ice water you can gain weight easily! Is that true:confused:

No.

Good stuff. :up:

Cardio after lifting is gonna be a new experience. I could use a new split too. Thinkin about tryin that push/pull business. That'd make it back/tris and chest/bis?

Just make sure you run the BCAA's a-plenty before, during and after your workout and cardio to help protect your muscle. I like running back/tri's and chest/bi's (my legs/shoulders bit doesn't get mucked with a whole lot) every once in awhile. I've found that it brings me great gains for about 4-6 weeks and then it stops being very productive for me, so I move back to back/bi's and chest/tri's for a good 8-12 weeks.

jag

[BRUTAL]

I eat about 1/2 cup of oatmeal about 90 minutes before I lift and then get a protein shake about 15-20 minutes before I lift. Cheap and easy, kinda like me. :o

jag

potatoes
rice

See I was hoping for something that would absorb quicker than the standard 90, minutes, I can't be waiting an hour and a half to go to the gym. I have a full time job and a business to run... time is limited. I got a Complex Carb supplement powder than I can mix with my Whey that absorbs in 30. Seems to be doing good for me.

Jag, breakdown the "BCAA" thing for me... por favor...

[jaguarr]

See I was hoping for something that would absorb quicker than the standard 90, minutes, I can't be waiting an hour and a half to go to the gym. I have a full time job and a business to run... time is limited. I got a Complex Carb supplement powder than I can mix with my Whey that absorbs in 30. Seems to be doing good for me.

I just make it part of my daily routine to have some oatmeal an hour before I leave work. *shrug* If the complex carb powder's working well for you, though, no real reason to switch up.


Jag, breakdown the "BCAA" thing for me... por favor...

Liquid Branch Chain Amino Acids (BCAA's). There are a lot of different brands, but I prefer Scivation Xtend in powder form that I mix to suit my needs. I use it before, during and after any type of workout. Helps protect the muscle from being burned off as fuel during a workout or cardio. Should be a key component of anyone's arsenal and one of the few supp's I'll say EVERYONE should be using, along with whey protein, a multi-vitamin and fish oil caps.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Just make sure you run the BCAA's a-plenty before, during and after your workout and cardio to help protect your muscle. I like running back/tri's and chest/bi's (my legs/shoulders bit doesn't get mucked with a whole lot) every once in awhile. I've found that it brings me great gains for about 4-6 weeks and then it stops being very productive for me, so I move back to back/bi's and chest/tri's for a good 8-12 weeks.

jag

Awesome. Full steam ahead.

[Colossal Spoons]

See I was hoping for something that would absorb quicker than the standard 90, minutes, I can't be waiting an hour and a half to go to the gym. I have a full time job and a business to run... time is limited. I got a Complex Carb supplement powder than I can mix with my Whey that absorbs in 30. Seems to be doing good for me.

Jag, breakdown the "BCAA" thing for me... por favor...

This is what jag recommended to me:

http://www.sportfoodmart.com/svxt1016.html

[CyberFaust]

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/CyberFaust/DSCF5219.jpg




well, in a pic taken this weekend it would apear i have some real body changes this month and i am quite eager to show you guys, and thanks for all the help :)
i'm still far from my goal but that looks better than i ever looked before :D

nothing today, no time, nor yesterday, nor the day before that, i'll hit it really hard tomorow though!

[jaguarr]

You're getting stronger, dude. You broke that f**cker's lightsaber like it was hot butter! :up:

jag

[BRUTAL]

Liquid Branch Chain Amino Acids (BCAA's). There are a lot of different brands, but I prefer Scivation Xtend in powder form that I mix to suit my needs. I use it before, during and after any type of workout. Helps protect the muscle from being burned off as fuel during a workout or cardio. Should be a key component of anyone's arsenal and one of the few supp's I'll say EVERYONE should be using, along with whey protein, a multi-vitamin and fish oil caps.

jag

This is what jag recommended to me:

http://www.sportfoodmart.com/svxt1016.html

I'll pick some up today during Lunch...

BTW Friday I did some f**king work on my Bi's and worked parts I had forgotten about... :wow:

[CyberFaust]

You're getting stronger, dude. You broke that f**cker's lightsaber like it was hot butter! :up:

jag
the funny thing is that we switched lightsabers before the fights and that was in facy my lightsaber that i broke :dry:

but heck, it was a good death for me because that girl does kendo and she served my ass to me on a silver platter
either that or, a tie of both of us hitting eachother at the same time.

I got a spartan death and all that hoo-hah :D

[jaguarr]

I've got all day meetings every day this week, including dinners planned afterwards, which f**ks up my workout routine since I typically like to lift after work. So, I did something interesting this morning; I got up and did my chest/tri's routine on an empty stomach. I wouldn't recommend doing this to anyone, but I'm a bit of a mad scientist and don't mind experimenting on myself. Strength was WAY down, but I made it through the routine in good time and didn't have too many issues. Blood sugar started to drop at the end, but not too bad. It's extra difficult for me to do something like this because I have to take Nexium every morning an hour before I eat anything for my Gastro Esophogeal Reflux Disease. So I can't even get up and eat a little something before I workout like even a protein shake. All in all, not ideal, but at least I'm maximizing my glycogen store burning with this approach, I guess. Again, this isn't something I would recommend to anyone. I'm responding to desperate times with desperate measures this week and will go back to my normal approach ASAP. Wednesday ought to be interesting, since I'll have to get up at 5am to do legs and shoulders. I wonder if I'll get the dry heaves with my ATG squats. Hah! Just thought I'd share the insanity I'm putting myself through this week. :D

jag

[BRUTAL]

I need a good lower abdominal workout

[kytrigger]

question:

So whenever I do preacher curls I notice that when I start to go heavy (a 6 or even 8 rep weight) I get a sharp pain in my right side about in about the middle of my ribs. It's only on my right side, and it has happened 3 tiomes now. Today, I even went over to the nautilus preacher machine to see if that would help it but that hurt it too.

Any idea what this might be?

[BRUTAL]

Blood clot... you're going to die... :csad::down

[Colossal Spoons]

Had an awesome back/tris/light cardio day yesterday. For some reason, my upper traps are way too sore for a post-back day. You'd swear I did shoulders yesterday. Weird.

[Colossal Spoons]

I need a good lower abdominal workout

Aw man, jag gave me 2 exercises a few weeks ago that have become permanent fixtures in my ab routine. **** if I can remember the names or where in this thread they are. :(

[JStorm]

I hate doing abs.

[Super Kal]

could you at least describe it, Spoons?

[Colossal Spoons]

could you at least describe it, Spoons?

Ok, the first one involves you lying flat on the floor with your arms back behind your head and feet straight out with a ball in between your feet. Raising only your hands and feet; pass the ball from your feet to hands and back again. 2 passes is one rep so do 10 reps. 2 sets.

The other is you lying on the floor with your feet on the ground but knees in the air. Holding a medicine ball straight up at the ceiling, raise your head and upper back off the floor and hold it for a sec. 20 reps, 2 sets.

[enterthemadness]

I hate doing abs.

I do a lot of ab work. Increasing the cardio along with my good diet, will...well, soon give me a thin stomach/six pack. Stomach is already getting smaller.

And holy...there's a Youtube button when you post now? :csad: and Robin wouldn't kiss Batman.

[JStorm]

I do a lot of ab work. Increasing the cardio along with my good diet, will...well, soon give me a thin stomach/six pack. Stomach is already getting smaller.

And holy...there's a Youtube button when you post now? :csad: and Robin wouldn't kiss Batman.

Apparently, he is.

[Colossal Spoons]

I hate doing abs.

I'd rather do that than cardio.

[JStorm]

I'd rather do that than cardio.

Meh.

I guess with a steady cardio and diet, a flat stomach will come. Then, maybe, I would do more ab workouts. But, until then, I look more like a thick boned, stocky guy.

[mrvlknight21]

Apparently, he is.

That avatar is gross dude...seriously.

What happened to that beast of a man you had up recently! :oldrazz:

[JStorm]

That avatar is gross dude...seriously.

What happened to that beast of a man you had up recently! :oldrazz:

I like this one better.

It signifies the current condition of the Batman boards: "All ****ed up!"

[mrvlknight21]

Meh.

I guess with a steady cardio and diet, a flat stomach will come. Then, maybe, I would do more ab workouts. But, until then, I look more like a thick boned, stocky guy.

u still need to make sure that you have a strong core. do the work and it will help in the short and long run, whether u get a visible 6 pack or not.

[JStorm]

u still need to make sure that you have a strong core. do the work and it will help in the short and long run, whether u get a visible 6 pack or not.

Yeah.

I workout my sides; but I don't spend alot of time doing crunches and such.

[CyberFaust]

holly youtubeing wonder batman, your right!

[BRUTAL]

Ok, the first one involves you lying flat on the floor with your arms back behind your head and feet straight out with a ball in between your feet. Raising only your hands and feet; pass the ball from your feet to hands and back again. 2 passes is one rep so do 10 reps. 2 sets.

The other is you lying on the floor with your feet on the ground but knees in the air. Holding a medicine ball straight up at the ceiling, raise your head and upper back off the floor and hold it for a sec. 20 reps, 2 sets.

Those look to be both upper abs though. I was looking for one that isolates my lower abs. I did one yesterday that was pretty good.

Lay on the floor, arms flat on the ground, keeping your legs elevated, roll you hips and bring your knees to your chest slowly and then back out again, keeping you legs elevated through the whole set. 12-15 x 3 is what I did and I'm feeling it today.

[enterthemadness]

Serious question. :dry:<--serious face.

What if by chance a zombie invasion were to happen...would eating right and working out be on top of your list when not killing zombies, or would killing zombies, find secure shelter and food be on your list?

[Colossal Spoons]

Those look to be both upper abs though. I was looking for one that isolates my lower abs. I did one yesterday that was pretty good.

Lay on the floor, arms flat on the ground, keeping your legs elevated, roll you hips and bring your knees to your chest slowly and then back out again, keeping you legs elevated through the whole set. 12-15 x 3 is what I did and I'm feeling it today.

The first one will def have your lower abs in pain. No doubt :up:

You could always to hanging foot raises.

[Colossal Spoons]

Serious question. :dry:<--serious face.

What if by chance a zombie invasion were to happen...would eating right and working out be on top of your list when not killing zombies, or would killing zombies, find secure shelter and food be on your list?

If there happens to be a gym and healthy food wherever I'm taking shelter at, then I'd go for it. But I'm not running out into a mass of zombies to get into a gym or organic food store.

[BRUTAL]

BTW Spoons I picked up that BCAA stuff you told me about, Grape Flavor, and I gotta be honest, it takes like s**t. I had to mix it with my Whey the second time to cover it up and I still barely got it down... truly awful.

[punishermax]

BTW Spoons I picked up that BCAA stuff you told me about, Grape Flavor, and I gotta be honest, it takes like s**t. I had to mix it with my Whey the second time to cover it up and I still barely got it down... truly awful.

Thats why I get my supps in pill form as much as I can. In fact, the only supp I take not in pill form is my whey.

[Colossal Spoons]

BTW Spoons I picked up that BCAA stuff you told me about, Grape Flavor, and I gotta be honest, it takes like s**t. I had to mix it with my Whey the second time to cover it up and I still barely got it down... truly awful.

Oh yeah, get watermelon :O

[BRUTAL]

Oh yeah, get watermelon :O

Racist... :dry:

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha

[BRUTAL]

Spoons, what do you do to work your lower back?

[Super Kal]

do saunas help you lose fat weight?

[BRUTAL]

Saunas help you lose water weight, which you'll usually put right back on once you hydrate.

[Super Kal]

dammit

[CyberFaust]

the sauna is a great place to faint in :)

i know i do

[BRUTAL]

the sauna is a great place to faint in :)

i know i do

So you're like... a girl or something?

[CyberFaust]

i like...have a thing with warmth, i can take the cold perfectly and i prefer it, i'm great right up to about minus 20 centigrade, but put me in a sauna or some sort of peruvian jungle enviroment and i am e ither verry depressed, verry unconcious, or verry dead :)

[CyberFaust]

i have a question

and it's about fitness! :D

so, i read about this exercise in men's health and i was trying out for about a week or 2 now, but it got me some strange looks. Still, despite the comments i think it works well for a large bit of my upper body. I want your opinions on the exercise, if it's any good, if you do it, and if it's crap, waht else should i do for back exercises?
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/CyberFaust/untitled.jpg
excuse the caveman style art, bit i tried

anyhow, you take a dumbbell, lie down on a bench,and while holding your arm straight, move it in a arc in the positions described in the pictures.
i get wierd looks when i doo floor-wipers too so it's not a great factor.

[mrvlknight21]

looks like a dumbbell pullover.
you might get some strange looks b/c there is usually a machine for this and pussies love machines!
personally I dont care for the movement, but some people love them I am sure.

[Golgo-13]

i got a question:

Does the length of the work out determine the amount of calories you burn, or does the degree of the exercise determine it?

For example, i've been doing the Leonidas/300 workout and can do it non-stop in about 15 mins. Let's say you do 100 push ups in 2 miutes-non stop. Will you burn more calories if you do 100 push-ups in 4 sets of 25 over say, a 5 minute period? Because inbetween the 4 sets yeah, you'll be resting or stretching or whatever, but your heartrate will be up, and that burns calories even while your waiting to do your next set.....

[jaguarr]

i have a question

and it's about fitness! :D

so, i read about this exercise in men's health and i was trying out for about a week or 2 now, but it got me some strange looks. Still, despite the comments i think it works well for a large bit of my upper body. I want your opinions on the exercise, if it's any good, if you do it, and if it's crap, waht else should i do for back exercises?
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/CyberFaust/untitled.jpg
excuse the caveman style art, bit i tried

anyhow, you take a dumbbell, lie down on a bench,and while holding your arm straight, move it in a arc in the positions described in the pictures.
i get wierd looks when i doo floor-wipers too so it's not a great factor.

Read this (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Bent-Arm+Dumbbell+Pullover)


jag

[jaguarr]

i got a question:

Does the length of the work out determine the amount of calories you burn, or does the degree of the exercise determine it?

For example, i've been doing the Leonidas/300 workout and can do it non-stop in about 15 mins. Let's say you do 100 push ups in 2 miutes-non stop. Will you burn more calories if you do 100 push-ups in 4 sets of 25 over say, a 5 minute period? Because inbetween the 4 sets yeah, you'll be resting or stretching or whatever, but your heartrate will be up, and that burns calories even while your waiting to do your next set.....


Caloric burn rate is dictated by BOTH level of intensity and duration of your workout. It's also affected by what type of workout you are doing as some activities simply burn more calories than others.

jag

[JStorm]

Devil and I are gonna max out Friday.

I guess we'll post the results. :up:

[BRUTAL]

Caloric burn rate is dictated by BOTH level of intensity and duration of your workout. It's also affected by what type of workout you are doing as some activities simply burn more calories than others.

jag

Where you been at? :wow:

[CyberFaust]

Read this (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Bent-Arm+Dumbbell+Pullover)


jag

ok lady
...reading...
...reading...
...reading...
that's not it, you do it with one hand and it's a full movement from those two positions

also, ive switched my basic triceps workout to a seated triceps press and to a one arm pronated triceps extention but i do it standing up on the bench :) taht, also gets wierd looks, but not as wierd as teh floor wipers :D

[mrvlknight21]

ok lady
...reading...
...reading...
...reading...
that's not it, you do it with one hand and it's a full movement from those two positions

also, ive switched my basic triceps workout to a seated triceps press and to a one arm pronated triceps extention but i do it standing up on the bench :) taht, also gets wierd looks, but not as wierd as teh floor wipers :D

I have no clue what that is, as Jag and I both identified that as a dumbbell pullover.
i dont understand the triceps exercises you are talking about-standing on a bench??

[CyberFaust]

i took the name from bodybuilding.com, i must admit the name is verry confusing for me :)

[mrvlknight21]

Devil and I are gonna max out Friday.

I guess we'll post the results. :up:

Im not maxing out, but you are. Everyone wish him luck, we will use this to gauge progress and plan a good chest routine for him.

[mrvlknight21]

i took the name from bodybuilding.com, i must admit the name is verry confusing for me :)

I just cant think of a triceps exercise that you would need to stand on a bench for...do you have a link??

[bunk]

Anyone ever take Hydroxycut? It's b.s. right?

[mrvlknight21]

Caloric burn rate is dictated by BOTH level of intensity and duration of your workout. It's also affected by what type of workout you are doing as some activities simply burn more calories than others.

jag

100% agreed!

[mrvlknight21]

Anyone ever take Hydroxycut? It's b.s. right?

I am not comfortable w/ taking any kind of "fat burners" personally.
Im not saying it is BS, but I dont recommend it to anyone.

[CyberFaust]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Real_New=%3C%3D+7&Name=&MainMuscle=Triceps&Equip=Dumbbell&Isolation=&order=Name

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2002/onearmprodbext1.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2002/onearmprodbext2.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Spoons, what do you do to work your lower back?

Dead lifts. I used to do hyperextensions.

[Super Kal]

what if you don't have weights?

what do you do then?

[BRUTAL]

Dead lifts. I used to do hyperextensions.

Link? So I can see the form...

[Colossal Spoons]

what if you don't have weights?

what do you do then?

Not sure really. I never really worked my lower back till I got into a gym.

[Colossal Spoons]

Link? So I can see the form...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=Lower+Back

[BRUTAL]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=Lower+Back

Gracias Dark One! :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

No problem Unpigmented Master of Things :up:

[BRUTAL]

No problem Unpigmented Master of Things :up:

SOOOO tempted to use that as my CT!

[Colossal Spoons]

haha

[BRUTAL]

But alas, I have grown attached to being a Role Model... for most

[AndThePickles]

I don't have access to a gym this summer (about 3 months) and I'm really concerned that I'm going to lose all my muscle weight. I'm doing unweighted exercises of course, but even with those I'm not sure how many sets/reps to do. Any advice?

[Colossal Spoons]

I know Fran looks up to you :heart:

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't have access to a gym this summer (about 3 months) and I'm really concerned that I'm going to lose all my muscle weight. I'm doing unweighted exercises of course, but even with those I'm not sure how many sets/reps to do. Any advice?

You should mention that you wanna add mass. :up:

[BRUTAL]

I know Fran looks up to you :heart:

Riiiiiiight... :whatever: I hear things...


PICKLES!! Where you been at?!

[BRUTAL]

I don't have access to a gym this summer (about 3 months) and I'm really concerned that I'm going to lose all my muscle weight. I'm doing unweighted exercises of course, but even with those I'm not sure how many sets/reps to do. Any advice?

You should mention that you wanna add mass. :up:

I ran a search here (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?MainMuscle=&Equip=BodyOnly&Isolation=), for all muscle groups & no equipment...

[Colossal Spoons]

Riiiiiiight... :whatever: I hear things...


PICKLES!! Where you been at?!

Yeah, Fran tends to be a bit....HARSH at times.

[BRUTAL]

Yeah, Fran tends to be a bit....HARSH at times.

I wouldn't call it being harsh... EXCITABLE seems to fit