The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[jaguarr]

This man (http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/s_w_a_t_/ll_cool_j/swat.jpg) told me to get my fat ass back in the gym :(

You know LL Cool J? :huh:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

*jealous*

[Badger]

It must have been a dream.

BTW, I've been on my "Nothing out of Box or Can" Diet for about three months and I've lost 25 lbs, down to 210. Also running at least 2-3 miles five days a week. Will be getting back into the weights very soon. :up:

Though, running in the winter sucks ass. :down

[Colossal Spoons]

Good job dude

[jaguarr]

Do work, Phil! Do work! :up:

jag

[Badger]

Thanks. I'd like to lose another 10 or 15. Get down to about 190 and then work my way back up to 200. Thinking I'm going to need a gym for that.

I'll probably be spending a lot more time in here.

[jaguarr]

We gots the shiznit you need up in here! :up:

jag

[hammy]

Badger, five squirrels can fit in you. :O

[ShadowBoxing]

We gots the shiznit you need up in here! :up:

jag
Like for Realz you, but don't catch feelings.

[Badger]

Badger, five squirrels can fit in you. :O

So want to turn this around, but I'll refrain. :o

[hammy]

I'm too tired to even try to figure out what you mean .. it was from Scrubs. :woot: Last night, the janitor was saying he likes to stuff animals in his spare time. Usually with other animals. For instance, a badger can hold five squirrels.

There's a talent you didn't even know you have.
No need to thank me. :yay:

[Badger]

We gots the shiznit you need up in here! :up:

jag

Like for Realz you, but don't catch feelings.


:up:

No worries, I do not catch feelings. Looking foward to the sage like wisdom.

[jaguarr]

I'm too tired to even try to figure out what you mean .. it was from Scrubs. :woot: Last night, the janitor was saying he likes to stuff animals in his spare time. Usually with other animals. For instance, a badger can hold five squirrels.

There's a talent you didn't even know you have.
No need to thank me. :yay:

Have you ever taken a really severe blow to the head? Perhaps lost consciousness from it or sustained a concussion?

jag

[Badger]

I'm too tired to even try to figure out what you mean .. it was from Scrubs. :woot: Last night, the janitor was saying he likes to stuff animals in his spare time. Usually with other animals. For instance, a badger can hold five squirrels.

There's a talent you didn't even know you have.
No need to thank me. :yay:

Oh yeah, did not know that. Do enjoy the Scrubs. :woot:

Please don't figure it out, you'll think less of me. :O :csad:

[hammy]

Have you ever taken a really severe blow to the head? Perhaps lost consciousness from it or sustained a concussion?

jag

Why do you ask? :yay:

[jaguarr]

Why do you ask? :yay:

Just getting to know you better. :)

jag

[hammy]

I see.
I'll make a deal with you, if you're interested. I'll answer your probing question if you'll answer one for me.

[Badger]

Probing, that is all.

[Colossal Spoons]

Probing FTL

[jaguarr]

That wasn't a probing question. Trust me. :ninja:

jag

[hammy]

Probing FTL

I was going to say prying, but that sounded nosey. :csad: Probing sounded more .. "investigatory."

:up:

[hammy]

That wasn't a probing question. Trust me. :ninja:

jag

*gasp* :eek:

[ShadowBoxing]

Jag, you'll enjoy this. The insistance by fanboys that anyone who gets 'big' for roles took Steroids.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13461329&postcount=808

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13461350&postcount=809

My responses
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13463438&postcount=815
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13463471&postcount=817

[jaguarr]

People who immediately start throwing around claims about steroids almost invariably know nothing about fitness, bodybuilding or the steroidal compounds they are claiming have been used. I don't see a deviation from that pattern in this instance.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

People who immediately start throwing around claims about steroids almost invariably know nothing about fitness, bodybuilding or the steroidal compounds they are claiming have been used. I don't see a deviation from that pattern in this instance.

jag
Yeah, they definitely thought steroids were 'magic beans' over there, one poster even said "some steroids make you look ripped and cut":whatever: . Ya know, as opposed to saying some steroids have lower estronogenic side effects and cause less water retention therefore being better suited for those who would train to be ripped and cut.

What they really don't understand though is how small some of these celebrities are. Routh, Bale, and Jane are nothing that special in the world of health and fitness. They are pretty ripped, have access to excellent training and nutrition, but they basically all do that same P90X routine that sheds all their bodyfat so they can look real cut up on screen. I've never, or at least almost never, seen a celebrity actually put on that much muscle mass in prep for a movie.

People also seem to think these celebrities are really good athletes over on the Batboards. They thought Bale, for example, could run faster than I could...ignoring the fact that he isn't a runner, or has been one ever. Their justification for this line of logic...of course...they can see his abs.

[ShadowBoxing]

This'll warm your heart Jag and C-Spoons
http://www.bodybuilders.com/patrickl.htm

[Badger]

That's awesome. :up:

[jaguarr]

This'll warm your heart Jag and C-Spoons
http://www.bodybuilders.com/patrickl.htm

That is awesome! :up: There's a Russian guy on there (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=523356) who is missing his left hand and his entire right arm that's jacked up as well. Guys like these are an inspiration and anytime I hear some lazy jackass say "I can't" or "I don't have time", I think of them and it all kind of falls into perspective; if you want it and are willing to work for it, you can have it. Most people just aren't willing to work for it.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

There is some guy featured in Muscles and Fiction every so often who is missing an entire leg, but still jacked to the hilt.

[Colossal Spoons]

This'll warm your heart Jag and C-Spoons
http://www.bodybuilders.com/patrickl.htm

Well that's fantastic! Motivation for all you couch potatoes. :up:

[Golgo-13]

*jealous*

^Groupie.

[mrvlknight21]

Only a week and a half left of training!
Cant wait to get back full time (and actually lift some weights)!
I hope all you guys training is going well!

[jaguarr]

Widowmaker squats and donkey calve raises FTW! :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I gave the widowmaker squat thing a go today.....ow

[jaguarr]

Only a week and a half left of training!
Cant wait to get back full time (and actually lift some weights)!
I hope all you guys training is going well!

Glad to hear things are going so well, Devil. Hang in there, you're almost done! :up:

Yeah, I gave the widowmaker squat thing a go today.....ow

Feel the burn! :cmad: Actually, the worst is yet to come. Probably late tomorrow afternoon or Monday morning you are in for some serious-ass DOMS. :D

jag

[Fran]

Being sick FTL :down

[jaguarr]

Being sick FTL :down

Immune-system boosting L-Glutamine, extra zinc and Vitamin C FTW! :up:

jag

[Fran]

I don't have the money for that stuff! :cmad:

I've just been drinking water and stuff. :huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

Feel the burn! :cmad: Actually, the worst is yet to come. Probably late tomorrow afternoon or Monday morning you are in for some serious-ass DOMS. :D

jag

Heh, I bet. On top of that, I upped my weight considerably on the hip adductor so my gracilis is in some kinda pain

[jaguarr]

I don't have the money for that stuff! :cmad:

I've just been drinking water and stuff. :huh:

Then you're probably going to die. Can I have your new TV? I'd like to put a nice set in the bedroom. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

Heh, I bet. On top of that, I upped my weight considerably on the hip adductor so my gracilis is in some kinda pain

Do some leg-centric cardio tomorrow for 30 minutes and stretch out good afterwards. And drink an ass-load of water. Should ward off some of the DOMS. :up:

jag

[Fran]

Then you're probably going to die. Can I have your new TV? I'd like to put a nice set in the bedroom. :up:

jag

That's being buried with me.

You can have Rock Band :)

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been feeling really strong lately in general. All my numbers have been going up too; it's awesome. The only thing I changed is the addition of L-Glutamine to my pre and post workout supplements. :up:

My 1-rep deadlift max should be over 300 any week now :D

[Golgo-13]

Just finished an awesome Kettlebell routine. Haven't done them in a while and i can feel it; it kicked my ass.

[ShadowBoxing]

You have kettlebells

*green with envy*

[jaguarr]

That's being buried with me.

You can have Rock Band :)

I'ma dig up your grave and take your TV. Then I'll have something to play Rock Band on. :up:

I've been feeling really strong lately in general. All my numbers have been going up too; it's awesome. The only thing I changed is the addition of L-Glutamine to my pre and post workout supplements. :up:

My 1-rep deadlift max should be over 300 any week now :D

L-Glutamine is good for helping with tissue repair and keeping the immune system running optimally. Certainly can't be hurting your recovery. Keep doing those deadlifts. I'm finally back over 400 in my working weight on deads as of last week. I have to go on a business trip this week, though, and will miss out on most of my lifting while I'm gone, especially any compounds like squats and deads. :(

Just finished an awesome Kettlebell routine. Haven't done them in a while and i can feel it; it kicked my ass.

Do work! And change your name back to Golgo! :cmad:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

That's Golgo....oh damn. Yeah, no offense, your new username sucks :o. Golgo is cooler.

[Golgo-13]

That's Golgo....oh damn. Yeah, no offense, your new username sucks :o. Golgo is cooler.

No offense taken. Got tied of Golgo.

[Colossal Spoons]

Just finished an awesome Kettlebell routine. Haven't done them in a while and i can feel it; it kicked my ass.

Why no more Golgo?

No offense taken. Got tied of Golgo.

And here's my answer lol

[knowsbleed]

Golgo...what a retarded new name. :(

[Golgo-13]

Golgo...what a retarded new name. :(

I take it your not a 'Heroes' fan? And it's no more retarded than say....knowsbleed perhaps?:csad:


I used to be a big avocado pear eater, now i think i'm gonna start eating them post work-out.

[CyberFaust]

I can now swim! :D
thank you, thank you.

[Colossal Spoons]

Congrats!

[CyberFaust]

aye, it's good to not sink like a stone. Gives me a feeling of acomplishment.
Also lost some fat :D

[ShadowBoxing]

Awesome stuff. Swimming is great exercise.

[ShadowBoxing]

Some overall progression pictures
(beginning of 2004, end of 2003)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/ShadowBoxing01/FieryFace-1.jpg
(End of 2007)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2007/12/10/192599/profilepic/850942orig.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Good job dude. You look so damn young in that 1st pic lol

[ShadowBoxing]

Good job dude. You look so damn young in that 1st pic lolI think I was 18 when that was taken, maybe 19.

[Colossal Spoons]

Aww


Have you ever had a beard?

[ShadowBoxing]

Had a 'stach once. But I can grow a full beard now I think.

[mrvlknight21]

Well, our training coordinator let us choose our own PT this morning. Since I ran last night, I decided to hit the weights and see how much strength I had lost over the past 15 weeks.
Overall, it wasnt too bad. My dumbbell bench suffered a little-I could only get the 90s for 3 reps (I can usually get 2 sets of 6). Most of the rest wasnt too bad-I got 3 sets of 10 on weighted dips (45lbs) with no problem, probably couldve done 15 or so reps with no problem. I have done the 5x5 routine with 90 lbs before, so I may want to test that again to see for sure.
Anyways, overall it wasnt too much of a downward slide-looking forward to working that stuff back into my routine starting next week.

[Ion Kenshin]

hey shadow i read a few posts on here but there was just too many to go through....so im just gonna give you a rundown of my me and see what help i can get.

I am mostly looking to get some decent tone and definition especially in the abs area. I am really not looking to get huge. i am a fairly average size and weight and most people think im too skinny. im 5'9 150lbs. i eat alot throughout the course of my day but rarely if ever gain weight(i have a rather high metabolism apparently). i mostly attribute that to the fact that i walk all over NYC all day between work school and home. when it comes to the gym and what kind of workouts to do i am completely clueless. i am a smoker and am hopping that once i begin a official type of workout, it will aid me in quitting which i really wanna do. i am also not a very heathy eater at all which is a prob as well.....
So basically here is what im asking...what kind of workouts should i be doing with what kinda weights, in what kind of intervals. also what kind of eating habits should i practice..being a guy that is not a healthy eater and tends to be very picky about healthy foods.....in other words i guess a i need a one time physical trainer without spending all my money at a gym.
Thanks in advance for all your help.

[ShadowBoxing]

hey shadow i read a few posts on here but there was just too many to go through....so im just gonna give you a rundown of my me and see what help i can get.

I am mostly looking to get some decent tone and definition especially in the abs area.
First thing to address here, there is no such animal as "spot reduction". To lose bodyfat you have to decrease your overall bodyfat percentage. This may work differently for different people. Some, for example, store almost no fat, some store a considerable amount in the hips and thighs but not in the shoulders and arms. Depends on the gender and the personal him/herself.

I am really not looking to get huge. i am a fairly average size and weight and most people think im too skinny. im 5'9 150lbs. i eat alot throughout the course of my day but rarely if ever gain weight(i have a rather high metabolism apparently). i mostly attribute that to the fact that i walk all over NYC all day between work school and home.
You probably are about average for your height, but in terms of a person looking to be "ripped", yeah you're a little undersized. I would focus on trying to gain some weight any way you can. This probably means eating more and intensively exercising a little less (but not less intense). Increasing lean mass will aid your body in shedding bodyfat. People who are "jacked" so to speak carry less bodyfat because all those extra pounds of muscle help their bodies metoblize more of what they take in.
when it comes to the gym and what kind of workouts to do i am completely clueless. i am a smoker and am hopping that once i begin a official type of workout, it will aid me in quitting which i really wanna do. i am also not a very heathy eater at all which is a prob as well.....
Okay, well I'd definitely quit smoking and try to consult a nutritionist on that diet for starters.
So basically here is what im asking...what kind of workouts should i be doing with what kinda weights, in what kind of intervals.
Although I can't tell what kind of gainer you are from the information you've given me and good beginner routine is to work out three times a week. One day chest, triceps and shoulders (a push day), Another day Back and Bi's (a pull day), and a third day on legs. Make sure to do every set to failure. What that means is you select a weight you are comfortable doing with good form and you rep it until you can no longer rep the weight. If you have a spot present he ought to just be assisting you out of the last repetition. If you are on a pull "exercise" you should also do the last rep and finish with a force negative...that's where you lower the weight back to it's resting position at a slow, controlled pace. You are looking for a slight burning sensation in your muscles.

Before you start any routine like this though, I'd consult both a physician and a personal trainer. The physician to tell you if you are physically capable of handling a true weight lifting routine, and the trainer to help you ease into it. The first 1-4 weeks depending on how fast a learner you are should be devoted to teaching yourself good form and good technique.
also what kind of eating habits should i practice..being a guy that is not a healthy eater and tends to be very picky about healthy foods.....in other words i guess a i need a one time physical trainer without spending all my money at a gym.

For diet, stick to a healthy, home prepared series of meals. Make sure to eat in 2-3 hour intervals. Not so much that you're stuffed, but just enough so you're hungry two hours later. A good sample meal might be 6-8oz of lean meat, 1 cup of oatmeal and a spoonful of good fats. Your meals break down into roughly a 40-40-20. 40% protien, 40% carbohydrates and 20% good fats. This should be the average for the day. Make sure to get a healthy two servings of veggies for nutrients.

[ShadowBoxing]

By the way, you probably would be adjusting this program after a few months of getting acclimated.

[Ion Kenshin]

many thanks shadow...i just need to get myself together and get into a routine that fits me and fits into my work and school schedule. if there is anything i can let you know that can enable you to help me with more information let me know on here on PM me

[kainedamo]

Is it possible for ab excercises to make your stomach look bloated?

I've got a little bit of a belly I'm trying to lose, and I do crunches and other ab workouts every few days. And I dunno if its the ab excercises, but sometimes my stomach looks kinda bloated. I know that bread can have this effect. I have at least two rounds each day.

I wish I could pay ShadowBoxing to be my personal trainer.

[Savage]

Some overall progression pictures
(beginning of 2004, end of 2003)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/ShadowBoxing01/FieryFace-1.jpg
(End of 2007)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2007/12/10/192599/profilepic/850942orig.jpg

Christ dude. That's a big change. I don't have anything but these 25 pound dumbells though. Otherwise I do push ups with my feet on the chair, squats, shoulder excersizes, and curls. My upper chest has absolutely no meat though and I can't figure out how to get there. Any advice on that?...In fact just look at this pic and go nuts telling me what I need to work on (definition, etc) because with what I have to work with here, I have no clue where I'm going. :oldrazz: I've been winging it forever and this is as far as I've gotten.



http://a244.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/97/l_458a52565125bd1f044a21ab571d2bb3.jpg


...Yes. Yes, I do walk around dressed like this. :oldrazz:

[Savage]

Is it possible for ab excercises to make your stomach look bloated?

I've got a little bit of a belly I'm trying to lose, and I do crunches and other ab workouts every few days. And I dunno if its the ab excercises, but sometimes my stomach looks kinda bloated. I know that bread can have this effect. I have at least two rounds each day.

I wish I could pay ShadowBoxing to be my personal trainer.

I have that save problem actually so I stopped doing em altogether. I didn't want to have one of those huge abby stomachs like those dudes in the World's Strongest Man competitions. You know, so muscular you end up looking fat anyway.

[Scar Predator]

Some overall progression pictures
(beginning of 2004, end of 2003)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/ShadowBoxing01/FieryFace-1.jpg
(End of 2007)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2007/12/10/192599/profilepic/850942orig.jpg

Nice work indeed. Just remember, it's easy to fall in love with gains but STAY NATURAL. I'd love to have a six pack like that. That's the one training goal that's just never going to happen for me.
I was in the gmy the other day and a competitive bodybuilder told me he wanted my calves so he could win contests. I told him I'd trade my calves for his abs.:woot:

[Superman79]

Is it possible for ab excercises to make your stomach look bloated?

I've got a little bit of a belly I'm trying to lose, and I do crunches and other ab workouts every few days. And I dunno if its the ab excercises, but sometimes my stomach looks kinda bloated. I know that bread can have this effect. I have at least two rounds each day.

I wish I could pay ShadowBoxing to be my personal trainer.

If you are building your ab muscles (which happens if you do enough ab work) or course your stomach will get bigger, because the muscle beneath is growing. If you want to see your abs...do cardio and fix your diet. You have to get rid of that layer of fat covering the abs, and only cardio and diet can do that. You can do crunches etc. til your eyes bleed, and until that fatty layer is gone, your abs will remain a myth, much like the Loch Ness Monester or the Yeti.

In jag's words:

DO (cardio) WORK!!!

[Savage]

...wow, is that good advice. lol :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

Nice work indeed. Just remember, it's easy to fall in love with gains but STAY NATURAL. I'd love to have a six pack like that. That's the one training goal that's just never going to happen for me.
I was in the gmy the other day and a competitive bodybuilder told me he wanted my calves so he could win contests. I told him I'd trade my calves for his abs.:woot:
I have sh***y calves too.

[ShadowBoxing]

Christ dude. That's a big change. I don't have anything but these 25 pound dumbells though. Otherwise I do push ups with my feet on the chair, squats, shoulder excersizes, and curls. My upper chest has absolutely no meat though and I can't figure out how to get there. Any advice on that?...In fact just look at this pic and go nuts telling me what I need to work on (definition, etc) because with what I have to work with here, I have no clue where I'm going. :oldrazz: I've been winging it forever and this is as far as I've gotten.
http://a244.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/97/l_458a52565125bd1f044a21ab571d2bb3.jpg

Uhhh, I'd try to join a gym, or find a friend who has a good home gym, or buy more weights ad equipment...or if worse comes to worse, I know a few guys who swear by bowflexes. I will say though, for limited resources you've done a good job. It really seems, by what you've described, all that's holding you back now it's what you have available to you.

[ShadowBoxing]

Is it possible for ab excercises to make your stomach look bloated?

I've got a little bit of a belly I'm trying to lose, and I do crunches and other ab workouts every few days. And I dunno if its the ab excercises, but sometimes my stomach looks kinda bloated. I know that bread can have this effect. I have at least two rounds each day.

I wish I could pay ShadowBoxing to be my personal trainer.
To see your abs you're going to need to increase your lean mass, space out your meals (as has been indicated many times in this thread...just poke around, you'll find some examples), make sure to spot eating carbs past 4 or 5pm (or whenever you start lowering your activity). Also, you have to do cardio, something that can get your heart rate up to about 130, two times a week...more if necessarily. You don't want to do too much cardio, because you'll spike your coritsol levels and begin eating away at your lean tissue.

[Savage]

Damn. I figured you were going to say that. :oldrazz: Thanks though. I didn't want to pay for all of that stuff. lol

[kainedamo]

The cardio I've been doing lately is jogging to work. Its about 10 minutes worth of jogging.

I plan on getting an excercise bike for the house but haven't had the money yet.

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn. I figured you were going to say that. :oldrazz: Thanks though. I didn't want to pay for all of that stuff. lol

Heh, "muscles cost money" :up:

[Savage]

Unfortunately. Wish I could just pull a 300. Ah well. Guess I'm getting a bowflex.

[Superman79]

The cardio I've been doing lately is jogging to work. Its about 10 minutes worth of jogging.

I plan on getting an excercise bike for the house but haven't had the money yet.

You gotta run for longer than 10 min. You gotta go at least 30 minutes. Try biking, running, boxing, rowing machine, eliptical trainer, or even circuit weight training...all will help, but you gotta work more than just ten minutes

[Superman79]

Unfortunately. Wish I could just pull a 300. Ah well. Guess I'm getting a bowflex.

A membership at your local YMCA can be pretty cheap, especially if you're a student. (Like $20 a month). It would give you more options for workouts, AND often times they can be pretty nice (the two Y's I belonged to over the last 4 years have been really nice.)

[ShadowBoxing]

The cardio I've been doing lately is jogging to work. Its about 10 minutes worth of jogging.

I plan on getting an excercise bike for the house but haven't had the money yet.You don't start cutting into fat stores until after 20 minutes.

[Savage]

A membership at your local YMCA can be pretty cheap, especially if you're a student. (Like $20 a month). It would give you more options for workouts, AND often times they can be pretty nice (the two Y's I belonged to over the last 4 years have been really nice.)

Yeah, I was thinking I'd give that a shot actually. Even if for only a few months. Not looking to be like Triple H, here. Just this.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/ryan_reynolds/blade.jpg

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I was thinking I'd give that a shot actually. Even if for only a few months. Not looking to be like Triple H, here. Just this.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/ryan_reynolds/blade.jpg

The diet and exercise program he went on for that role is online somewhere, you should search for it. I have the magazine he posted it in, but I probably already threw it out, it was a pretty old issue of Men's Health.

[Savage]

Wow, that was...easy as hell to find. (http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&conitem=335a99edbbbd201099edbbbd2010cfe793cd____)

Well I'm good to go. Thanks. Between this and my martial arts I should be set.

[Savage]

Actually found a pretty good site. Good stuff that I can do at home like this one for the upper chest that was I talking about earlier.

http://www.shapefit.com/chest-exercises-push-ups-feet-elevated.html

I think if I just keep doing what I'm doing now I'll be fine. :yay:

I'll keep coming back here for tips. Had no idea so many hypsters were workout junkies.

[Superman79]

Actually found a pretty good site. Good stuff that I can do at home like this one for the upper chest that was I talking about earlier.

http://www.shapefit.com/chest-exercises-push-ups-feet-elevated.html

I think if I just keep doing what I'm doing now I'll be fine. :yay:

I'll keep coming back here for tips. Had no idea so many hypsters were workout junkies.

Good stuff...but you really need to move some serious weight to get quality growth. Incline presses, pullovers, incline flyes, lowpulley flyes: All can give you great growth, but you need to move some high weights.

[Lobo]

This is for Spoons :bh:

Tista's workout routine

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=183638&d=1111080204

[kainedamo]

You don't start cutting into fat stores until after 20 minutes.

Ok.

Another problem I have with jogging is that after a few days of jogging for like 20 minutes like you say, my joints hurt. Like, the bones in my lower leg and the joints and my feet :huh: Quite badly too :huh:

[ShadowBoxing]

Ok.

Another problem I have with jogging is that after a few days of jogging for like 20 minutes like you say, my joints hurt. Like, the bones in my lower leg and the joints and my feet :huh: Quite badly too :huh:Try to find something with less impact then, like a nautilus.

[bell110]

So, a little about myself. I'm 28 and I've been working out off and on for 10 years. Trying to get back into it AGAIN :( Haven't been to the gym since late August. I think it was ShadowBoxing that made a list of differnt body types. I fall into the Bruce Willis or Michael Chiklis type if I remember correctly. Anyway, my biggest problems with working out are the boring parts, cardio, stretching, and eating healthy. I was just wondering if you guys could give me a couple of pointers on proper stretching technique. Also, what do you guys eat that is healthy AND taste good. Everything I come up with is bland so I usually end up doing lunch with my coworkers, which is usually fast food :( How do you guys feel about V8? I'm not a big veggie fan so I drink two V8s a day for my veggie intake, but I was thinking that that might be too easy to be good for you. How often do you guys work out? I'm lucky if I get two days in a week. I try to get four, but can't always do it.

[Steve Rogers]

I was just wondering if you guys could give me a couple of pointers on proper stretching technique.I assume the stretches I did in the Army are proper. I still do them when I work out, both before and after. I start by stretching my chest, arms, back and shoulders, holding each for a minute. Then I stretch my (I don't know muscles; only body parts) groin, thighs, hamstrings, and finally calves. Basically, I go from head to toe. Don't know if it is proper or not, but it's what I do. Then I rotate my head, working the neck muscles and rotate my arms working the shoulder muscles. This simply warms up these areas and loosens them up. My neck and shoulders usually pop when I do this. Then I run in place for about 60 seconds bringing my knees up to my chest. At that point I'm ready to go. Don't know if that helped or not, but there you go.

Also, what do you guys eat that is healthy AND taste good. Everything I come up with is bland so I usually end up doing lunch with my coworkers, which is usually fast food :( How do you guys feel about V8? I'm not a big veggie fan so I drink two V8s a day for my veggie intake, but I was thinking that that might be too easy to be good for you.Frankly, fresh food is the way to go. Processed foods are obviously unhealthy, but also don't taste as good. Compare fresh fruits and veggies with canned. Try to eat as much food that you prepare yourself. I don't mean microwavable chicken patties. I mean go to a butcher and buy chicken. If you are trying to loose weight, a raw diet is crazy. I tried it for a while and lost 12 lbs in a little over a week. I ate mostly raw fruits and veggies and the weight just fell off. But I wouldn't recommend it for a long time. Also, drink water. Lots of water. It curbs hunger paings and has zero calories, fat, colesterol, sodium, etc. I know a lot of people who cut all fluids out of their diet other than water and continued to eat whatever they wanted and still lost weight. Also, try eating less. Eat what you want, but eat less of it. I used to be a pig. I used to eat ungodly ammounts of food. Then I just stopped. I shrank my portions. The first week or so, I was always hungry. But after that my stomach aclimated and I became full after eating a third of what I used to. Don't know about V8. Never tried it.

How often do you guys work out? I'm lucky if I get two days in a week. I try to get four, but can't always do it.Depends on what you mean by "work out". Every night after work I am either on the basketball court or the hockey rink and on the weekends I am snowboarding. Rarely do I work with weights or do cardio exercizes. I get that from participating in my chosen sports. I suggest you do the same since you said something about it being boring. If you are looking to get buff and chiseled, then you will have to work with weights. In that case there are others on the board who can help you. I am in it to feel good, be in shape and have fun. Hope this helps.

[Golgo-13]

Well I'm good to go. Thanks. Between this and my martial arts I should be set.

What type of MA? I'm a B-Jiu Jitsu myself. I broke my big toe on the mat and a week ago. It sounds minor but i really can't move the way i'd like to, without being able to get up on my tip toes. Hurts like hell walking around in shoes all day too.:csad:

. Guess I'm getting a bowflex.

Good investment. Had mine for years now.

[ShadowBoxing]

Thank you for changing your name back.

[Golgo-13]

Was the other one that bad?

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, I was thinking I'd give that a shot actually. Even if for only a few months. Not looking to be like Triple H, here. Just this.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/ryan_reynolds/blade.jpg

Haha, you say "just this" so casually. That's going to take a LOT of hard work. Good luck! :up:

[punishermax]

Well, after about 2 months of not working out. Moving to a new city and finding a new job working out was the least of my worries. But now everything is stable and I can start going again. I'm going to a brand new 24/7 gym facility about a 5 minute walk from where I live. It looks nice. And after the first few weeks of not going I was chomping at the bit, and now with all the snow and cold, I have pretty much developed cabin fever, and getting back to the gym is the medication I need. Damn it feels good to be back!

[punishermax]

I didn't gain much weight, but I definitely noticed some loss of mass and hardness in my muscles, but a few weeks of training and I should be back to where I was. Maybe a little longer than a few weeks. I can tell you all ready my stamina is gonna be the biggest problem.

[Savage]

What type of MA? I'm a B-Jiu Jitsu myself. I broke my big toe on the mat and a week ago. It sounds minor but i really can't move the way i'd like to, without being able to get up on my tip toes. Hurts like hell walking around in shoes all day too.:csad:


OOH! I've had one of those. Both big toes actually. Still hurts every now and then. :( Oh and my main martial art is Hapkido but they also taught Tai Chi, Ba Gua, and Northern Shaolin. I speak in pastence because the school closed down back in July so I'm looking for another one now. Sucked, especially after spending 6 and a half years there. Might join the Shaolin school in manhattan, though. Guy come from the temple itself to teach here. Hear it's really good.

[Savage]

Haha, you say "just this" so casually. That's going to take a LOT of hard work. Good luck! :up:

Thanks. What I meant by that though was, with the exception of the upper chest, I feel I already have most of the mass required. So that part shouldn't be too difficult. I've never tried dieting before though, so that is going to be a new experience for me. I hope it's not too difficult. I mean I only have to shed about 10 pounds or so, I think.

[punishermax]

I'm thinking about what to do for my routine.

Before I was doing push/pull routine of:

Monday: Back/biceps
Tuesday: Cardio/abs
Wednesday: Chest/Triceps
Thursday: Cardio/abs
Friday: Legs
Saturday: off
Sunday: Cardio/abs

But now I'm thinking of:
Monday: Biceps/Chest
Tuesday: Cardio/abs
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: Cardio/Abs
Friday: Back/Triceps
Saturday: off
Sunday: Cardio/abs

I was thinking of changing it so that way I get the most out of my single Biceps and Triceps workout, while also hitting them with the larger groups on seperate days.

Not sure what actual exercises I'm gonna do with the splits. I'm gonna tinker around the gym with different exercises and what machines they have for the first week or so until I find what exercises I want in my routines for a while.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I was thinking I'd give that a shot actually. Even if for only a few months. Not looking to be like Triple H, here. Just this.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/blade__trinity/ryan_reynolds/blade.jpg

That's funny, I AM trying to look like HHH :D

[Colossal Spoons]

This is for Spoons :bh:

Tista's workout routine

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=183638&d=1111080204

Haha, yeah. I did that for a few weeks. I wasn't a big fan of how he split his muscle groups up though :down:

Was the other one that bad?

Yeah, dude. And I love Heroes :(

[Sun_Down]

Man, I don't know what got into me this week. I added 5-10 lbs and/or 1-2 reps on to all my lifts and my energy at the gym's been through the roof.

Creatine FTW!

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I've been having ridiculous gains the past week and half myself :up:

Creatine/BCAAs + L-Glutamine FTW

[Golgo-13]

Gonna hit the kettlebells today, since i can't train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for a few because of my broken big toe. God help me if i drop one on my foot. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Ouch

[Ion Kenshin]

hey anyone on this thread live in nyc...im looking for a gym buddy to help me achieve my goals since im no good at keeping with things my self...also looking for a inexpensive gym that is 24 hours or open late....PM me and we will talk

[Lobo]

I've dropped about 10lbs of fat in the last month :)

I figure if Vince can look like this at 60 I've not excuse for being out of shape at 27

http://www.gerweck.net/vincemuscle.jpg

[ShadowBoxing]

Senior Bodybuilding competitions are usually pretty cool. A lot of them look even better than he does.

[Lobo]

Senior Bodybuilding competitions are usually pretty cool. A lot of them look even better than he does.


Cool I'll check those out, my goal is something like this

http://data1.blog.de/media/467/477467_416ea82e40_m.jpg

[ShadowBoxing]

Do you have that kind of bone structure and a decent ability to put on mass?

[kainedamo]

I just wanna be slimer, toned, and have a six pack.

[Golgo-13]

Cool I'll check those out, my goal is something like this

http://data1.blog.de/media/467/477467_416ea82e40_m.jpg

That dude is a real A-Hole.

[Lobo]

Do you have that kind of bone structure and a decent ability to put on mass?

Yeah it's similar bone structure thats why I posted that instead of a leaner guy. I got a broad back and shoulders. Gaining weight's never been a problem, trimming fat was but thats gotten easier since I've been paying more attention to what I eat


I'll post a new pic when I have one

[Lobo]

That dude is a real A-Hole.

He is, got a great physique though

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah it's similar bone structure thats why I posted that instead of a leaner guy. I got a broad back and shoulders. Gaining weight's never been a problem, trimming fat was but thats gotten easier since I've been paying more attention to what I eat

You should probably be able to get there then. I just get a lot of "I wanna look like The Rock" and I feel like about the only thing I can tell the person is "well, you better crawl back into your mamma and get born again".

[Mysterio]

"official" threads are gay.

[ShadowBoxing]

"official" threads are gay.
Trolls are gayer, leave.

[Lobo]

You should probably be able to get there then. I just get a lot of "I wanna look like The Rock" and I feel like about the only thing I can tell the person is "well, you better crawl back into your mamma and get born again".
That last line actually made me LOL.

I'll post picture progress in this thread:)


Not drinking soda is an excellent and easy way to lose a few pounds

[ShadowBoxing]

That last line actually made me LOL.

I'll post picture progress in this thread:)

Not drinking soda is an excellent and easy way to lose a few pounds
Yes it is, but remember your goal here is going to be to put on mass. You're gonna want to eat cleaner (which means soda is a good thing to avoid), but still in large quantities. This may mean taking in about 3000 calories a day along with your workouts. In some cases, like mine, you may need as many as 6000 calories. All dependent on the person and their metabolism.

[Iceman]

That's funny, I AM trying to look like HHH :DWhat happened to Lashley? :csad:

[Lobo]

What happened to Lashley? :csad:

This

http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bobbyjuice.jpg


Sorry I couldn't help but post that :hehe:

[Iceman]

This

http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/bobbyjuice.jpg


Sorry I couldn't help but post that :hehe:Haha...that's actually what Spoons wants to look like :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

What happened to Lashley? :csad:

Heh, I was just tweaking the poster's original statement. The HHH/Lashley/Batista range is my end goal :up:

[jaguarr]

Back from a week-long business trip. Only had time for one workout when I was gone. I hate it when they feel the need to plan out every waking moment for these things. If I spend all day locked in a room with a bunch of people talking about business, the last thing I want to do is go hang out with them all night long, too. :down Meh. Back into the lifting tomorrow.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Back from a week-long business trip. Only had time for one workout when I was gone. I hate it when they feel the need to plan out every waking moment for these things. If I spend all day locked in a room with a bunch of people talking about business, the last thing I want to do is go hang out with them all night long, too. :down Meh. Back into the lifting tomorrow.

jag


I was wondering where you were- I fully expected you to respond to my post a few pages back. I completely understand about not wanting to hang with your business partners-I am the same way. I am pretty big on "me" time.
Anyways-I got a few days left at training until graduation and JStorm has about 10 days until his challenge run.

[jaguarr]

Well, our training coordinator let us choose our own PT this morning. Since I ran last night, I decided to hit the weights and see how much strength I had lost over the past 15 weeks.
Overall, it wasnt too bad. My dumbbell bench suffered a little-I could only get the 90s for 3 reps (I can usually get 2 sets of 6). Most of the rest wasnt too bad-I got 3 sets of 10 on weighted dips (45lbs) with no problem, probably couldve done 15 or so reps with no problem. I have done the 5x5 routine with 90 lbs before, so I may want to test that again to see for sure.
Anyways, overall it wasnt too much of a downward slide-looking forward to working that stuff back into my routine starting next week.

Nice. The incredible amounts of conditioning you've been doing helped you keep the strength losses to a minimum without a doubt. :up:

That's funny, I AM trying to look like HHH :D

Better look into some skin peels to lose that tan and start pumping the d-bol. Haha! :D

I was wondering where you were- I fully expected you to respond to my post a few pages back. I completely understand about not wanting to hang with your business partners-I am the same way. I am pretty big on "me" time.
Anyways-I got a few days left at training until graduation and JStorm has about 10 days until his challenge run.

Glad you're about wrapped up with your training. The real fun will start afterwards. :up: And you HAVE to video this race so we can see it.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Nice. The incredible amounts of conditioning you've been doing helped you keep the strength losses to a minimum without a doubt. :up:



Better look into some skin peels to lose that tan and start pumping the d-bol. Haha! :D



Glad you're about wrapped up with your training. The real fun will start afterwards. :up: And you HAVE to video this race so we can see it.

jag


Yeah, I do need video. But the race isnt a race in the traditional sense. Storm has to run 1st and finish it in a certain time, or my wife doesnt even have to run. The problem is, as I expected, she has not been running! I told her "you cant issue a challenge and then not be prepared to back it up." Maybe that is another difference between guys and girls, because she is pretty laid back about it!

[punishermax]

Just got back from my first night back in the gym. It felt great in that damn I'm sore as hell and yet I took it easy way. I can definitely tell just how much I've actually stepped back when I was there tonight. All my lifts were down considerably, which I knew was going to happen. My stamina wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. But even taking it easy to get back into the swing of things kicked my ass. Damn it feels good.

[Colossal Spoons]

Better look into some skin peels to lose that tan and start pumping the d-bol. Haha! :D


The former will never happen and the latter might eventually haha.

[Golgo-13]

Friday i did 100 Kettlebell snatches with a 24kg (53lb) Bell; 50 on each arm; Left and Right X 20; L&R 15; L&R 10; LXR 5. 30 second break inbetween each set.

Did superset donkey calve raises/seated calves raises and pull up/chin up ladders yesterday.

Today i'll work legs and take off tomorrow.

[ShadowBoxing]

bumpity

[Savage]

Hey, how do those weight gain powders work anyway? I'm thinking of trying em out. I'm going to sound like a COMPLETE noob here but does it work only for muscles or do I run the risk of becoming a fatass if I use em?

[Colossal Spoons]

It's literally calories in a tub. You can put the calories to use by exercising or you can watch American Idol and let them blow you up :up:

[Savage]

Ah. Then my pizza, chicken nugget and hot dog diet should do wonders for my muscle growth.

[Colossal Spoons]

Absolutely not lol

[Fran]

Cancelled my Netflix, and joined a nearby health club. It's better than the one at school, gives me more stuff to use :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

That's fantastic!

[punishermax]

Weight gainers are all right. I would just rather get my carbs from actual food. I know for post-workout I throw a packet of oatmeal in with my protein shake and mix it up. But I'm not a hardgainer, I gain fairly easy with low carb intake as I am an endo/meso with the endo being a bit more dominant so I limit my carb consumption more than most.

[punishermax]

Ah. Then my pizza, chicken nugget and hot dog diet should do wonders for my muscle growth.

My dream diet if I could pull it off.

[Savage]

Absolutely not lol

So I have to eat special foods to GAIN weight too? Man, no wonder you guys take the powders.

[NickSox]

I've been reading this thread for a while and have a question for you all. Especially for Spoons and Jag since you guys seem to have a great grasp of these things. I've gotten back into lifting for the past two months and have been seeing good gains and I've been doing circuit training and taking whey protein. I'm thinking about starting to get away from the circuit and start training certain muscles on certain days. My question is I've seen the posts before with legs thrown in but I've had major knee surgeries(why I can't pitch anymore) so what would be a good weeks set minus legs to maximize the work my upper body muscles get? Thanks in advance for any tips, and I'll keep you guys updated with my progress!!

[punishermax]

I've been reading this thread for a while and have a question for you all. Especially for Spoons and Jag since you guys seem to have a great grasp of these things. I've gotten back into lifting for the past two months and have been seeing good gains and I've been doing circuit training and taking whey protein. I'm thinking about starting to get away from the circuit and start training certain muscles on certain days. My question is I've seen the posts before with legs thrown in but I've had major knee surgeries(why I can't pitch anymore) so what would be a good weeks set minus legs to maximize the work my upper body muscles get? Thanks in advance for any tips, and I'll keep you guys updated with my progress!!


How recent was your surgery? I used to pitch too, but screwed up my rotator and that was the end of that. And are you looking for certain exercises or just a generic training split.

[NickSox]

How recent was your surgery? I used to pitch too, but screwed up my rotator and that was the end of that. And are you looking for certain exercises or just a generic training split.

Pretty much looking for a generic split. I've had two on my right knee and one on my left which have left me with the knees of a fifty year old man(doctors quote). I'm missing a ton of cartilage and a ligament in my left knee. I could never lift for mass since i was a college pitcher and flexibility is a huge issue. So now I'm looking to put on some bulk since before it was always more reps with less weight.

[Colossal Spoons]

So I have to eat special foods to GAIN weight too? Man, no wonder you guys take the powders.

Yeah, complex carbs and good fats :up:

whole grain pasta > french fries

fish oil > butter

[ShadowBoxing]

Pretty much looking for a generic split. I've had two on my right knee and one on my left which have left me with the knees of a fifty year old man(doctors quote). I'm missing a ton of cartilage and a ligament in my left knee. I could never lift for mass since i was a college pitcher and flexibility is a huge issue. So now I'm looking to put on some bulk since before it was always more reps with less weight.
Can you lift your legs heavy at all, because I have to warn you of two things. One, it's almost impossible to gain consistently on your upper body without training your lower body. Sure, you'll gain mass up top for a little while, but the amount of testosterone and muscle building that comes from doing squats or a heavy deadlift almost can't be replicated any other way. Two, if your knees are as bad as they sound, adding a ton of mass to the top half of your body is only gonna make it worse.

BTW a good split would probably be

Chest and Tris - Monday

Back and Bi's - Wednesday

Shoulders, Traps and weakpoints - Friday

[Colossal Spoons]

BTW a good split would probably be

Chest and Tris - Monday

Back and Bi's - Wednesday

Shoulders, Traps and weakpoints - Friday

Seconded :up:

[punishermax]

Can you lift your legs heavy at all, because I have to warn you of two things. One, it's almost impossible to gain consistently on your upper body without training your lower body. Sure, you'll gain mass up top for a little while, but the amount of testosterone and muscle building that comes from doing squats or a heavy deadlift almost can't be replicated any other way. Two, if your knees are as bad as they sound, adding a ton of mass to the top half of your body is only gonna make it worse.

BTW a good split would probably be

Chest and Tris - Monday

Back and Bi's - Wednesday

Shoulders, Traps and weakpoints - Friday


Yeah. The body has this weird way of balancing itself out. If you don't train your legs, you won't gain much mass up top. Even training with extremely light weights for your legs will help your mass building tremendously. But go really low for your legs since they are that bad.

[Savage]

Yeah, complex carbs and good fats :up:

whole grain pasta > french fries

fish oil > butter

Ah. Pasta. What about mac and cheese then? See I've always thought meats like chicken and steak was good for building muscle so I've just been eating lot of that stuff.

[NickSox]

Can you lift your legs heavy at all, because I have to warn you of two things. One, it's almost impossible to gain consistently on your upper body without training your lower body. Sure, you'll gain mass up top for a little while, but the amount of testosterone and muscle building that comes from doing squats or a heavy deadlift almost can't be replicated any other way. Two, if your knees are as bad as they sound, adding a ton of mass to the top half of your body is only gonna make it worse.

BTW a good split would probably be

Chest and Tris - Monday

Back and Bi's - Wednesday

Shoulders, Traps and weakpoints - Friday

I know for sure I can't go too heavy with squats with the amount of cartilage I'm missing. I can run for good distances but the heavy squatting wont work for me. Are there any good exercises i can do for my legs besides squats or deadlifts. Thanks for the split reccomendations also. And I'm 6'2 and currently weigh 205 so I'm not really huge up top just looking to gain some bulk as I've always been more of a skinnier guy.

[ShadowBoxing]

The mac is fine (what is "mac" anyways :confused:), the cheese might work against you depending how well your body processes lactose. It's generally avoided by Bodybuilders and models.

[AndThePickles]

Ah. Pasta. What about mac and cheese then? See I've always thought meats like chicken and steak was good for building muscle so I've just been eating lot of that stuff.

Red meat has a lot of fat, try to avoid it and eat more chicken and fish.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ah. Pasta. What about mac and cheese then? See I've always thought meats like chicken and steak was good for building muscle so I've just been eating lot of that stuff.

I've never had any mac&cheese I didn't feel guilty about afterwards lol. I'd save that for a cheat day. Chicken and steak are great sources of protein but you need carbs for energy.

[punishermax]

Ah. Pasta. What about mac and cheese then? See I've always thought meats like chicken and steak was good for building muscle so I've just been eating lot of that stuff.

Chicken and steak are good, but the other macros need to be there too. I myself think that the best way to get carbs is with oatmeal, rice and whole wheat tortillas. Mac and cheese probably isn't the best for carbs you want for a clean mass building experience.

[NickSox]

Yeah. The body has this weird way of balancing itself out. If you don't train your legs, you won't gain much mass up top. Even training with extremely light weights for your legs will help your mass building tremendously. But go really low for your legs since they are that bad.

Yea I've always kind of shyed away from the legs but I think that from hearing your advice I'm just going to start off light and see how the knees feel and hopefully move it up if they allow!

[punishermax]

Red meat has a lot of fat, try to avoid it and eat more chicken and fish.

Red meat also has a lot going for it too though. Especially for someone looking to bulk.

Lean ground beef would be your best bet for red meat, that is if you can't find and afford buffalo meat. Them bison are tasty, high in protein and low in fat too, it's just hard to come by, depending on where you are in the country.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yea I've always kind of shyed away from the legs but I think that from hearing your advice I'm just going to start off light and see how the knees feel and hopefully move it up if they allow!

Man, I used to skip leg days completely a few years back cuz I just didn't care about 'em. Silly me

[ShadowBoxing]

I know for sure I can't go too heavy with squats with the amount of cartilage I'm missing. I can run for good distances but the heavy squatting wont work for me. Are there any good exercises i can do for my legs besides squats or deadlifts. Thanks for the split reccomendations also. And I'm 6'2 and currently weigh 205 so I'm not really huge up top just looking to gain some bulk as I've always been more of a skinnier guy.
Well if you can do them with light weight, I'd reccomend that. Other than those two; leg presses are great for bone density and strength, however there again you may run into the same knee problems. Although I have a friend of mine who got both his quads blown off his kneecaps. He uses some of these nautilus leg machines, like the FreeMotion squat press (which is a squat machine, not a rack). He also does extensions and leg curls. You might try some function movements as well, like lunges or squat hops.

I'd run all this by your doctor though. I know trainers to have a talent for hurting their customers more than they help them sometimes, and not reccomended any third party input. So run anything by the PhD's first.

[punishermax]

Yea I've always kind of shyed away from the legs but I think that from hearing your advice I'm just going to start off light and see how the knees feel and hopefully move it up if they allow!

With little to no cartilage take it extremely easy on the legs.

[NickSox]

Well if you can do them with light weight, I'd reccomend that. Other than those two; leg presses are great for bone density and strength, however there again you may run into the same knee problems. Although I have a friend of mine who got both his quads blown off his kneecaps. He uses some of these nautilus leg machines, like the FreeMotion squat press (which is a squat machine, not a rack). He also does extensions and leg curls. You might try some function movements as well, like lunges or squat hops.

I'd run all this by your doctor though. I know trainers to have a talent for hurting their customers more than they help them sometimes, and not reccomended any third party input. So run anything by the PhD's first.
That's what I think that I'll start with some of the nautilus leg machines and really kind of see where it'll let me go. I've been cleared by the doctor to start with low weights and try to work up but have been a bit apprehensive. But with learning how much it has on the upper body am a bit more inclined to start pushing myself there.

With little to no cartilage take it extremely easy on the legs. Will do, I just have to be smart about it and not push myself too hard on the legs.

[Savage]

Alright, sounds like I'm dumping the contents of my fridge into the garbage. :oldrazz: Gonna have to start preparing rice and pasta more often as well as stock up on those chicken nuggets (hate having to deal with all the bones and cartilage in regular chicken for what's in the end very little meat). Oatmeal sounds good though. Man, I have been going about this all wrong.

Spoons, how long've you been doing this for anyway? How much progress have you made?

[punishermax]

Alright, sounds like I'm dumping the contents of my fridge into the garbage. :oldrazz: Gonna have to start preparing rice and pasta more often as well as stock up on those chicken nuggets (hate having to deal with all the bones and cartilage in regular chicken for what's in the end very little meat). Oatmeal sounds good though. Man, I have been going about this all wrong.

Spoons, how long've you been doing this for anyway? How much progress have you made?

Get chicken breasts. Those are so easy to prepare and can be mixed with anything. Eggs and tuna also. Lots of tuna. I think i lived of tuna and eggs for most of the summer.

[ShadowBoxing]

You can get boneless, skinless chicken breast at the super market cheap. That's the way to go, not nuggets.

[AndThePickles]

Alright, sounds like I'm dumping the contents of my fridge into the garbage. :oldrazz: Gonna have to start preparing rice and pasta more often as well as stock up on those chicken nuggets (hate having to deal with all the bones and cartilage in regular chicken for what's in the end very little meat). Oatmeal sounds good though. Man, I have been going about this all wrong.

Spoons, how long've you been doing this for anyway? How much progress have you made?

Chicken nuggets? :csad:

[Fran]

..fried chicken won't help the cause

[Colossal Spoons]

Spoons, how long've you been doing this for anyway? How much progress have you made?

Been lifting for 5 years. Went from 185lbs to 228lbs. My goals are diff from most people in this thread. Shadowboxing's more about definition and being able to do a load of laundry on his stomach lol. Jag has an obsession with putting people on their asses and wants to be superhero strong. I just wanna get a big as possible, like pro-wrestler big :)

[punishermax]

Alright, sounds like I'm dumping the contents of my fridge into the garbage. :oldrazz: Gonna have to start preparing rice and pasta more often as well as stock up on those chicken nuggets (hate having to deal with all the bones and cartilage in regular chicken for what's in the end very little meat). Oatmeal sounds good though. Man, I have been going about this all wrong.

Spoons, how long've you been doing this for anyway? How much progress have you made?

I almost forgot cottage cheese too. It's a bodybuilders wet dream. High in protein, good fats and low in carbs.

[ShadowBoxing]

Been lifting for 5 years. Went from 185lbs to 228lbs. My goals are diff from most people in this thread. Shadowboxing's more about definition and being able to do a load of laundry on his stomach lol. Jag has an obsession with putting people on their asses and wants to be superhero strong. I just wanna get a big as possible, like pro-wrestler big :)
Well, being ripped is a nice side effect of my genetics. Really though, I'm trying to put on mass like a madman. It's hard eating for my body type and metabolism though. My strength is through the roof these days, and still climbing.

I'd like to be 198 lean by August of next year.

[punishermax]

Been lifting for 5 years. Went from 185lbs to 228lbs. My goals are diff from most people in this thread. Shadowboxing's more about definition and being able to do a load of laundry on his stomach lol. Jag has an obsession with putting people on their asses and wants to be superhero strong.[b] I just wanna get a big as possible, like pro-wrestler big [b]:)

Right there with ya. I want people to see me and say that fackers huge.

[Savage]

You can get boneless, skinless chicken breast at the super market cheap. That's the way to go, not nuggets.

What's in chicken nuggets that makes them different? I usually eat both interchangeably but find I prefer the nuggets. Are there more bad things in nuggets or something?

I am so ill informed. :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I almost forgot cottage cheese too. It's a bodybuilders wet dream. High in protein, good fats and low in carbs.

I wish I could eat the stuff. Gag city! :(

What's in chicken nuggets that makes them different?

....nobody knows :ninja:

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, being ripped is a nice side effect of my genetics. Really though, I'm trying to put on mass like a madman. It's hard eating for my body type and metabolism though. My strength is through the roof these days, and still climbing.

I'd like to be 198 lean by August of next year.

It's nice having genetics on your side lol

Right there with ya. I want people to see me and say that fackers huge.

Awesome. My muscles are all for show though. I'm not a fighter nor do I want to intimidate anybody lol

[ShadowBoxing]

What's in chicken nuggets that makes them different? I usually eat both interchangeably but find I prefer the nuggets. Are there more bad things in nuggets or something?

I am so ill informed. :csad:Well if there are such a thing as skinless chicken nuggets, I know not of them...so that's one different. In addition, Chicken nuggets are heavily processed, the breast isn't.

[punishermax]

I wish I could eat the stuff. Gag city! :(


I'm from Wisconsin so I was raised on the stuff. I eat right from the tub, theres nothing better.

Did you ever try some of the things peole do to their CC on the bb.com boards. There some weird **** they do to it so they can tolerate it. Some say mixing it with eggs, or putting splenda with it makes it better, but as for me, I could live on the stuff.

[jaguarr]

Functional muscle FTW!!!!! :up:

jag

[Savage]

Been lifting for 5 years. Went from 185lbs to 228lbs. My goals are diff from most people in this thread. Shadowboxing's more about definition and being able to do a load of laundry on his stomach lol. Jag has an obsession with putting people on their asses and wants to be superhero strong. I just wanna get a big as possible, like pro-wrestler big :)

5 years and almost 45 pounds. Good going man. :up: I know you're a wrestling fan so I'm trying to get a body similar to John Morrison or at least Randy Orton. I'm 6'0 and 195 and (as obvious as it is now) absolutely clueless. I've gained a lot from the callistenics I did in martial arts but I've hit a brick wall. Apparantly there's only so much that push-ups can do.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm from Wisconsin so I was raised on the stuff. I eat right from the tub, theres nothing better.

Did you ever try some of the things peole do to their CC on the bb.com boards. There some weird **** they do to it so they can tolerate it. Some say mixing it with eggs, or putting splenda with it makes it better, but as for me, I could live on the stuff.

I'm jealous, it makes for a great late night snack with all the casein protein in it

[jaguarr]

What's in chicken nuggets that makes them different? I usually eat both interchangeably but find I prefer the nuggets. Are there more bad things in nuggets or something?

I am so ill informed. :csad:

Savage, start with the link in my sig. That's a good place to start on learning how to eat clean and healthy to support an iron habit. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

5 years and almost 45 pounds. Good going man. :up: I know you're a wrestling fan so I'm trying to get a body similar to John Morrison or at least Randy Orton. I'm 6'0 and 195 and (as obvious as it is now) absolutely clueless. I've gained a lot from the callistenics I did in martial arts but I've hit a brick wall. Apparantly there's only so much that push-ups can do.

Randy's a decent size, you can do it dude. :up: Randy's hamstrings are insane :eek:

[punishermax]

It's nice having genetics on your side lol



Awesome. My muscles are all for show though. I'm not a fighter nor do I want to intimidate anybody lol

Exactly, I don't care how strong I get or if people are scared, just admiration is great or the getting my fat friends off their asses to do something. The latter hasn't happened yet, and don't think it ever will. I can't remember who said, Jay Cutler maybe?, but he said I don't care how much I can lift, it's how much people think I can lift.

[jaguarr]

I'd run all this by your doctor though. I know trainers to have a talent for hurting their customers more than they help them sometimes, and not reccomended any third party input. So run anything by the PhD's first.

I'll echo this sentiment, Nick. Slow and easy and get your doc's input. Last thing you want to do is push too hard or do the wrong thing and really EFF yourself up good.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

5 years and almost 45 pounds. Good going man. :up: I know you're a wrestling fan so I'm trying to get a body similar to John Morrison or at least Randy Orton. I'm 6'0 and 195 and (as obvious as it is now) absolutely clueless. I've gained a lot from the callistenics I did in martial arts but I've hit a brick wall. Apparantly there's only so much that push-ups can do.
Push ups are more a muscle endurance exercise. I have a very compact chest, but all it's mass has come from heavy weight (say 205lbs for 6 reps) incline press, heavy weight dumbell press or bench press. Dips and flys. Those things are really what bring out, sculpt and add mass. You'll definitley hit a wall with push ups after a while. They're a versitile exercise, but they are sufficient for building a great chest.

[Colossal Spoons]

Exactly, I don't care how strong I get or if people are scared, just admiration is great or the getting my fat friends off their asses to do something. The latter hasn't happened yet, and don't think it ever will. I can't remember who said, Jay Cutler maybe?, but he said I don't care how much I can lift, it's how much people think I can lift.

My priorities(in order) would have to be: size, strength, then definition.

I take the strength seriously b/c it's directly proportional to mass but I'll be fine if I never bench press 500lbs

Bodybuilding > Power lifting IMO :up:

[punishermax]

I'm jealous, it makes for a great late night snack with all the casein protein in it

It's something that not everyone can eat. But I know years ago I hated squash and cauliflower and now I love both, so you never know, maybe you'll end up eventually finding the right combo so you can eat it.

[jaguarr]

My priorities(in order) would have to be: size, strength, then definition.

I take the strength seriously b/c it's directly proportional to mass but I'll be fine if I never bench press 500lbs

Bodybuilding > Power lifting IMO :up:

Powerbuilding is even bettah! :up: :bestofbothworlds:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

It's something that not everyone can eat. But I know years ago I hated squash and cauliflower and now I love both, so you never know, maybe you'll end up eventually finding the right combo so you can eat it.

I might just have to close my eyes, hold my nose, and take one for the team haha.

[Colossal Spoons]

Powerbuilding is even bettah! :up: :bestofbothworlds:

jag


Somebody once said that "all bodybuilders should be part-time powerlifters" :up:

[Fran]

All I've been doing is lift weights and stuff, no places to do cardio.

I need to remember a good weekly regimen. Advice plz

[ShadowBoxing]

I'll echo this sentiment, Nick. Slow and easy and get your doc's input. Last thing you want to do is push too hard or do the wrong thing and really EFF yourself up good.

jag
Or eff yourself up down the line. I know this chick who could barely walk about a year or so ago, and doing some sort of P90X training type method that my old trainer is balls to the wall all over these days he got her doing all sorts of transverse and plyometric training now. She looks great, it really is amazing. At the same time though I have this nagging voice in the back of head who has seen faith healers make people with degenerative conditions make believe they can walk...and it's just a matter of time before all that catches up with them. I'm not sure she goes to, or trusts doctors...they should always be your first and last training advisors. Even if you're going to eff yourself up, at least know the risks in advance.

[punishermax]

My priorities(in order) would have to be: size, strength, then definition.

I take the strength seriously b/c it's directly proportional to mass but I'll be fine if I never bench press 500lbs

Bodybuilding > Power lifting IMO :up:

Yeah, if I can get huge benching 250 then I'll be 100 percent fine with that. The added strength would be a plus, but just getting bigger is my goal, going up in weight is nice, but I'm not trying to set any records with my training. I don't know how people can be hardcore powerlifters. My hats off to those guys. Mendelson eats like 12,000 calories a day. My god, and those push themselves to the limit. Mendelson said in an interview one time, that if he didn't blow out blood vessels in his eyes, and he wasn't bleeding from the mouth after a workout then he didn't push himself hard enough. I cower in fear of that kind of workout regiment.

[jaguarr]

Somebody once said that "all bodybuilders should be part-time powerlifters" :up:

I've long considered myself a powerbuilder. There are a lot of us out there, using a lot of powerlifting moves and principles AND bodybuilding moves and principles; essentially cherry-picking from both disciplines to combine for something that's geared towards building mass and strength. I don't care if I ever have 5% bodyfat; I just want to be able to pick up the house and move the damn thing when I want to and have people look at me and say "Damn! Hyooge!". So far, it's working on both counts. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, if I can get huge benching 250 then I'll be 100 percent fine with that. The added strength would be a plus, but just getting bigger is my goal. I don't know how people can be powerlifters. My hats off to those guys. Mendelson eats like 12,000 calories a day. My god, and those push themselves to the limit. Mendelson said in an interview one time, that if he didn't blow out blood vessels in his eyes, and he wasn't bleeding from the mouth after a workout then he didn't push himself hard enough. I cower in fear of that kind of workout regiment.

Wow

[Fran]

All I've been doing is lift weights and stuff, no places to do cardio.

I need to remember a good weekly regimen. Advice plz

.,.

[Colossal Spoons]

http://www.kif.pl/www/images/stories/Rozmaryn_new/Pudzian.jpg

Mariusz Pudzianowski. The epitome of Jag's coined phrase "Powerbuilder" :up:

[jaguarr]

All I've been doing is lift weights and stuff, no places to do cardio.

I need to remember a good weekly regimen. Advice plz

Buy a jumprope. Ten minutes with it and you will wish you were dead. And see my sig for a suggested three-day split.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, if I can get huge benching 250 then I'll be 100 percent fine with that. The added strength would be a plus, but just getting bigger is my goal. I don't know how people can be powerlifters. My hats off to those guys. Mendelson eats like 12,000 calories a day. My god, and those push themselves to the limit. Mendelson said in an interview one time, that if he didn't blow out blood vessels in his eyes, and he wasn't bleeding from the mouth after a workout then he didn't push himself hard enough. I cower in fear of that kind of workout regiment.
I don't know about that...but these days I take hits of ammonia and then have a friend slap me in the face twice before doing squats.

[NickSox]

Or eff yourself up down the line. I know this chick who could barely walk about a year or so ago, and doing some sort of P90X training type method that my old trainer is balls to the wall all over these days he got her doing all sorts of transverse and plyometric training now. She looks great, it really is amazing. At the same time though I have this nagging voice in the back of head who has seen faith healers make people with degenerative conditions make believe they can walk...and it's just a matter of time before all that catches up with them. I'm not sure she goes to, or trusts doctors...they should always be your first and last training advisors. Even if you're going to eff yourself up, at least know the risks in advance.

Im really more interested in trying to gain for my upper body. I'm def not going to push anyting with my legs. I'm looking forward to starting the splits you suggested after i finish my circuit this week. '

[jaguarr]

http://www.kif.pl/www/images/stories/Rozmaryn_new/Pudzian.jpg

Mariusz Pudzianowski. The epitome of Jag's coined phrase "Powerbuilder" :up:

Mariusz is my goddamned hero! He's dreamy! :heart:

jag

[Savage]

Randy's a decent size, you can do it dude. :up: Randy's hamstrings are insane :eek:

Yeah, guy's got some disproportionately huge thighs. 0_0 Don't want to go that far. My legs are big enough as is and probably counts for the majority of my muscle weight. It's the upper body that I want to sculpt now. I'm not a fan of the love handles going up and down when I jump.:csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Mariusz is my goddamned hero! He's dreamy! :heart:

jag

I wanna meet him :heart:

[punishermax]

Wow

Yea, I sat there with my mout open for like two minutes after I read that. The 12,000 calories comes mainly from shakes. I think the article said like 7500 are from shakes and concoctions of the sort.

[Savage]

Savage, start with the link in my sig. That's a good place to start on learning how to eat clean and healthy to support an iron habit. :up:

jag
Thanks, man. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, guy's got some disproportionately huge thighs. 0_0 Don't want to go that far. My legs are big enough as is and probably counts for the majority of my muscle weight. It's the upper body that I want to sculpt now. I'm not a fan of the love handles going up and down when I jump.:csad:

Cardio will fix that right up :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

I've long considered myself a powerbuilder. There are a lot of us out there, using a lot of powerlifting moves and principles AND bodybuilding moves and principles; essentially cherry-picking from both disciplines to combine for something that's geared towards building mass and strength. I don't care if I ever have 5% bodyfat; I just want to be able to pick up the house and move the damn thing when I want to and have people look at me and say "Damn! Hyooge!". So far, it's working on both counts. :up:

jag
Maybe in part it's because I switched gyms and no one knows me, but these days almost a week doesn't go by when I don't get some guy asking me "are you really gonna do all that weight". I think I've finally hit the "big" stage, or at least compared the average gym goer. It feels pretty good.

[punishermax]

Maybe in part it's because I switched gyms and no one knows me, but these days almost a week doesn't go by when I don't get some guy asking me "are you really gonna do all that weight". I think I've finally hit the "big" stage, or at least compared the average gym goer. It feels pretty good.


Those people can be funny some times.

[ShadowBoxing]

Im really more interested in trying to gain for my upper body. I'm def not going to push anyting with my legs. I'm looking forward to starting the splits you suggested after i finish my circuit this week. '
Well I gave you three days. If you are gonna do light legs, I'd do them with shoulders and move Traps to your back day. When you get more confident, give legs their own day and do the typical Chest/Shoulders/Tris, Back/Bis, Legs/Abs breakdown.

[Colossal Spoons]

Maybe in part it's because I switched gyms and no one knows me, but these days almost a week doesn't go by when I don't get some guy asking me "are you really gonna do all that weight". I think I've finally hit the "big" stage, or at least compared the average gym goer. It feels pretty good.

Those people can be funny some times.

Def flattering :D

[AndThePickles]

You know Spoonsy, for a cheat day mixed with that good protein, you COULD try my low-fat macaroni and cheese that contains cottage cheese :o

[ShadowBoxing]

Those people can be funny some times.
Well it used to be funny little old guys, now it's twenty somethings and thirty somethings.

[Colossal Spoons]

You know Spoonsy, for a cheat day mixed with that good protein, you COULD try my low-fat macaroni and cheese that contains cottage cheese :o

Ugh!

[AndThePickles]

Ugh!

It's delicious!!! Doesn't even taste like cottage cheese at all.

[ShadowBoxing]

You know Spoonsy, for a cheat day mixed with that good protein, you COULD try my low-fat macaroni and cheese that contains cottage cheese :o
Cottage mac and cheese...God that sounds disgusting. I don't even think it's possible to melt cottage cheese...doesn't it just curdle.

[Colossal Spoons]

Almost forgot. I'm trying a 5x5 routine this week. I'm gonna get up a little early tomorrow and figure out which exercises I'm going to cut out of my routine to make sure I can hit the compound lifts :up:

[AndThePickles]

Cottage mac and cheese...God that sounds disgusting. I don't even think it's possible to melt cottage cheese...doesn't it just curdle.

I thought it sounded gross too, but it turned out really good.

2 cups cottage cheese
1 cup sour cream
1 egg, beaten
1 teaspoon salt
Garlic salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
2 cups extra-sharp cheddar cheese, shredded
½ cup Swiss cheese, shredded
1 (7-ounce) package elbow macaroni, cooked and drained
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
In a large mixing bowl, combine cottage cheese, sour cream, egg, salt, garlic salt, and black pepper. Add cheddar and Swiss cheeses and blend well. Cook macaroni as directed on package and drain well.
Add cooked macaroni to cheese mixture and blend until well coated. Add macaroni mixture to a greased 2- or 2½-quart baking dish and bake, uncovered, for 25-30 minutes.

[ShadowBoxing]

Ah Deadlifts tomorrow :heart:. 4x10,8,4,3.

[ShadowBoxing]

I thought it sounded gross too, but it turned out really good.

2 cups cottage cheese
1 cup sour cream
1 egg, beaten
1 teaspoon salt
Garlic salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
2 cups extra-sharp cheddar cheese, shredded
½ cup Swiss cheese, shredded
1 (7-ounce) package elbow macaroni, cooked and drained
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
In a large mixing bowl, combine cottage cheese, sour cream, egg, salt, garlic salt, and black pepper. Add cheddar and Swiss cheeses and blend well. Cook macaroni as directed on package and drain well.
Add cooked macaroni to cheese mixture and blend until well coated. Add macaroni mixture to a greased 2- or 2½-quart baking dish and bake, uncovered, for 25-30 minutes.
It sounds like it tastes good because of all the other stuff you put in to cover up the taste of the nasty cottage cheese:csad:

[punishermax]

Well it used to be funny little old guys, now it's twenty somethings and thirty somethings.

I've had people come up to me and tell me that, and I look on in amazement, I'm not strong by any stretch of the imagination. I put like 540 on the leg press one time and these two guys who were always in the gym told me I was crazy. I glared at them for a moment and then did work. Those guys were the type of people who do 20 reps at 90 pounds on the plate press, and then stand around and talk for five minutes before doing there next set.

[punishermax]

I thought it sounded gross too, but it turned out really good.

2 cups cottage cheese
1 cup sour cream
1 egg, beaten
1 teaspoon salt
Garlic salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
2 cups extra-sharp cheddar cheese, shredded
½ cup Swiss cheese, shredded
1 (7-ounce) package elbow macaroni, cooked and drained
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
In a large mixing bowl, combine cottage cheese, sour cream, egg, salt, garlic salt, and black pepper. Add cheddar and Swiss cheeses and blend well. Cook macaroni as directed on package and drain well.
Add cooked macaroni to cheese mixture and blend until well coated. Add macaroni mixture to a greased 2- or 2½-quart baking dish and bake, uncovered, for 25-30 minutes.

That sounds amazing. Def will have to try that.

[ShadowBoxing]

I've had people come up to me and tell me that, and I look on in amazement, I'm not strong by any stretch of the imagination. I put like 540 on the leg press one time and these two guys who were always in the gym told me I was crazy. I glared at them for a moment and then did work. Those guys were the type of people who do 20 reps at 90 pounds on the plate press, and then stand around and talk for five minutes before doing there next set.
Unless you're going to continue spotting me, you aren't "talking" to me inbetween sets. I never have that kind of time to waste.

[AndThePickles]

It sounds like it tastes good because of all the other stuff you put in to cover up the taste of the nasty cottage cheese:csad:

Well that's the point :oldrazz: Lots of protein though. Still a cheat day food, but not quite as bad as regular mac n cheese.

[Colossal Spoons]

Unless you're going to continue spotting me, you aren't "talking" to me inbetween sets. I never have that kind of time to waste.

I'm really anal about my rest times; I time out the 90 seconds exactly with a stopwatch. So you can yap all you want as long as you're ready to go again in 90 secs :o

Which reminds me, there's some alteration you have to make to your rest time when you do a 5x5 split. Hope I can find it tomorrow

[punishermax]

Unless you're going to continue spotting me, you aren't "talking" to me inbetween sets. I never have that kind of time to waste.

Those guys would always end up costing me time at the gym since they were always "using" whatever machine they were on. So I would have to plan around that and do something else.

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm really anal about my rest times; I time out the 90 seconds exactly with a stopwatch. So you can yap all you want as long as you're ready to go again in 90 secs :oI go for about a minute. I don't time it though. I want to drop and do the weight the minute I can handle it again.

[jaguarr]

60-90 seconds rest time between sets is ideal for maximizing muscle growth. :up: I usually go around 75-90 seconds, depending on the lift.

Legs and shoulders tomorrow. I shall destroy my legs with widowmaker ATG squats. :up:

jag

[Superman79]

Unless you're going to continue spotting me, you aren't "talking" to me inbetween sets. I never have that kind of time to waste.

No kidding.

[Colossal Spoons]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sclark70.htm

Starts today. I'm looking forward to seeing some strength gains over the next 7-9 weeks :up:

Commence work!

[AndThePickles]

http://musiconfire.com/images/big%20fireworks.JPG

[NickSox]

Well I gave you three days. If you are gonna do light legs, I'd do them with shoulders and move Traps to your back day. When you get more confident, give legs their own day and do the typical Chest/Shoulders/Tris, Back/Bis, Legs/Abs breakdown.

I'll be starting the splits you told me on Christmas Eve and will do the legs with the shoulders like you suggested. Thanks for the tips, I look forward to getting off the circuit training and hopefully seeing some good gains. Another question is I take 23g of whey protein a day and usually eat reasonably healthy. Is that enough protein or should i take two shakes a day instead of 1?

[jaguarr]

I'll be starting the splits you told me on Christmas Eve and will do the legs with the shoulders like you suggested. Thanks for the tips, I look forward to getting off the circuit training and hopefully seeing some good gains. Another question is I take 23g of whey protein a day and usually eat reasonably healthy. Is that enough protein or should i take two shakes a day instead of 1?

1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day, spread throughout the course of the day is what you should be shooting for. The more you can get from real food the better, and then supplemented with shakes to fill in the blanks.

jag

[NickSox]

1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day, spread throughout the course of the day is what you should be shooting for. The more you can get from real food the better, and then supplemented with shakes to fill in the blanks.

jag

triple post

[NickSox]

1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day, spread throughout the course of the day is what you should be shooting for. The more you can get from real food the better, and then supplemented with shakes to fill in the blanks.

jag

my bad

[NickSox]

1-2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day, spread throughout the course of the day is what you should be shooting for. The more you can get from real food the better, and then supplemented with shakes to fill in the blanks.

jag

Sounds good! I fluxuate around 200 pounds so I'll try to better keep track of how much protein I take in through food.

[Golgo-13]

I did superset seated calve raises/one legged/donkey press calve raises today.

[ShadowBoxing]

I did superset seated calve raises/one legged/donkey press calve raises today.
Nice. I think I need some supersetted calf exercises myself. My calves are definitely a weak point.

[Golgo-13]

Nice. I think I need some supersetted calf exercises myself. My calves are definitely a weak point.

Yeah, my calves are definately my weakest link also, which is why i hit 'em hard twice a week. I always do widowmakers for the last set, as calves need to be overloaded in order to be stimulated to respond.

[Colossal Spoons]

Alright, first day of the 7-9 week 5x5 routine today. It was weird working so many compound exercises in one day, but that is the whole point.

Day 1 was squats, bench press, barbell rows, any ab exercise you want(I did sit-ups w/ a medicine ball), and any tricep exercise(I did pushdowns). My only complaint is that there doesn't seem to be any dumbbell work in the routine and I don't wanna screw w/ the program and add them in :(

Day 2 is squats, military press, deadlifts, pullups(I'm gonna struggle with these since I'm really bottom-heavy :(), any ab exercise, and any bicep exercise

[AndThePickles]

pullups(I'm gonna struggle with these since I'm really bottom-heavy :()

Lol aw :heart:

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, 5 sets of 5 ain't happenin. But I'll def work to failure :up:

[Golgo-13]

I usually do 6 sets of 10 pullups, with a 60 second rest inbetween sets, at least once a week. You really have to work your way into them. As of the past week i've added 30lbs worth of plates to my grizzly belt and do, 6 sets of 6, to add some strength to my pullups.

[Colossal Spoons]

Good job dude!

I'm about 230lbs and 60& of that is leg lol

[Golgo-13]

I weight 160lbs. I've heard ppl say the less you weight, the easier pull ups are but i don't buy that. Your arms are built for your weight and body type. So it's all in proportion, with the next guy/gal.

[AndThePickles]

Good job dude!

I'm about 230lbs and 60& of that is leg lol

No, leg and butt lol.

[Colossal Spoons]

:sigh:

[raybia]

Alright, first day of the 7-9 week 5x5 routine today. It was weird working so many compound exercises in one day, but that is the whole point.

Day 1 was squats, bench press, barbell rows, any ab exercise you want(I did sit-ups w/ a medicine ball), and any tricep exercise(I did pushdowns). My only complaint is that there doesn't seem to be any dumbbell work in the routine and I don't wanna screw w/ the program and add them in :(

Day 2 is squats, military press, deadlifts, pullups(I'm gonna struggle with these since I'm really bottom-heavy :(), any ab exercise, and any bicep exercise

Lol aw :heart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gy2GGWdZqM

lol aw! :heart:

[jaguarr]

I weight 160lbs. I've heard ppl say the less you weight, the easier pull ups are but i don't buy that. Your arms are built for your weight and body type. So it's all in proportion, with the next guy/gal.

I had a much easier time doing pullups when I weighed 175 than I do weighing ~200 even though my strength has grown proportionately and I'm much, much stronger on the vast majority of my other lifts than I ever was at 175.

Can hardly walk today. My legs are so friggin' sore from the ATG squats and straight-legged deadlifts I did the other day. Oi! :o

jag

[Sun_Down]

Just picked up some fish oil caps today, I feel healthier already! :p

And I just hit 180 lbs and my max bench is just shy of 200! :up:

[Savage]

:sigh:
lol The Colossus avatar makes it even funnier. :woot:

[jaguarr]

Just picked up some fish oil caps today, I feel healthier already! :p

And I just hit 180 lbs and my max bench is just shy of 200! :up:

Keep up the good work!

My legs are twice as sore today as they were yesterday. Walking is a challenge. I really wailed on them on Tuesday. Looking forward to doing some heavy deads tonight and shaking some of the soreness out of them.

jag

[L.A.]

I do about 50 sit ups and 50 push ups every other mourning. Does that actually helps or am I wasting my time.

[jaguarr]

Certainly doesn't hurt, L.A., but your progress will be slow.

jag