The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[The Original Bamfer]

Congrats. I feel left out now:csad: . That's it, I going to go knock up some drunk chick this weekend.

Yeah, I hope you never have children. :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I hope you never have children. :up:
Pfft....I think I've got like ten already.

[Colossal Spoons]

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Damn, I never thought he'd grow up for some reason lol

[NickSox]

More like "short" term height issues. I'm sure his health is fine.

HA! I guess now that I think about it I guess height is the only thing that would be affected. How old is he now and how tall is he?

[jaguarr]

Gotta be honest, I've seen a lot of 15 year olds that are a lot more ripped that "Little Hercules" these days.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

HA! I guess now that I think about it I guess height is the only thing that would be affected. How old is he now and how tall is he?
No clue. I'll have to look into it though.

edit: He is 5'8" according to Wikipedia.

[NickSox]

No clue. I'll have to look into it though.

edit: He is 5'8" according to Wikipedia.
Hell he's taller than my dad. and my mother. And I'm 6'2, I'm starting to think there might be a postman involved

[ShadowBoxing]

Hell he's taller than my dad. and my mother. And I'm 6'2, I'm starting to think there might be a postman involved
Heh Heh. Maybe, who knows.

[Golgo-13]

Congrats, bro! :up:

jag

Thanks everyone, and congrats to you jag.

My 5 year old has been begging us for a sibling for years. I love kids, but not looking forward to those sleepless nights all over again.

[jaguarr]

Thanks everyone, and congrats to you jag.

My 5 year old has been begging us for a sibling for years. I love kids, but not looking forward to those sleepless nights all over again.

Yeah, I know that sleep deprivation is coming at me. :(

jag

[knowsbleed]

Yeah, I know that sleep deprivation is coming at me. :(

jag

You might be pleasantly surprised. Every single person I met before I had my 6 yr old told me the same thing...but her behavior turned out to be so angelic and the total opposite of the nightmare that I envisioned. She was such an easy baby to take care of that the babysitters said I should have charged them.

But don't get your hopes up. :hehe:

[jaguarr]

You might be pleasantly surprised. Every single person I met before I had my 6 yr old told me the same thing...but her behavior turned out to be so angelic and the total opposite of the nightmare that I envisioned. She was such an easy baby to take care of that the babysitters said I should have charged them.

But don't get your hopes up. :hehe:

Yeah, my brother's third kid was like that. Easiest kid in the world. Slept through the entire night nearly every night. He's still laid back and easy going at the age of 5. I keep waiting for him to turn into a terror as it definitely runs in the family. Only one constant with kids and that is every single one of them is different so you never know what to expect. Most of them do give you sleep deprivation at least for the first couple of weeks, though, from nearly all accounts I've heard. :o

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Fantastic workout just now. My squat and deadlift numbers have been increasing steadily by 5lbs the past few days :up:

[user123456789]

Fantastic workout just now. My squat and deadlift numbers have been increasing steadily by 5lbs the past few days :up:
half the battle is mental don't pussy out

[Colossal Spoons]

That's true. I was def limiting myself by second guessing whether I could lift a certain amount for months.

[NickSox]

Great chest/bi today. It's hard to drink the whey shake when my arm is shaking!

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, work: done! :D

[NickSox]

Haha, work: done! :D

I hear what you said a second ago about second guessing. Im usually at the gym alone(24hr gym/weird work schedule) so sometimes I think I subconsciouly dont do as much weight as I actually can and err on the lighter side. But I really surprised myself today so time to turn it up a notch:bh:

[jaguarr]

half the battle is mental don't pussy out

QFT! :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I hear what you said a second ago about second guessing. Im usually at the gym alone(24hr gym/weird work schedule) so sometimes I think I subconsciouly dont do as much weight as I actually can and err on the lighter side. But I really surprised myself today so time to turn it up a notch:bh:

Doubt has seriously hindered my progress on the flat bench press. Shame, but I'm actively trying to make up for lost time :up:

[jaguarr]

Doubt has seriously hindered my progress on the flat bench press. Shame, but I'm actively trying to make up for lost time :up:

Before every really heavy lift (and even some that aren't so heavy), I envision and even FEEL myself doing the lift at that weight, successfully following through on every single rep. I CONVINCE myself that I WILL make this lift at this weight before I even touch the iron. It's part of getting myself psyched up for that lift and making sure I nail it. It works.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Good stuff :up:

[jaguarr]

Visualization is a very, very powerful tool, once you learn how to really let those visualizations manifest themselves. Pro athletes use these techniques all the time. They can work in the rest of your life, too. :up:

jag

[NickSox]

Visualization is a very, very powerful tool, once you learn how to really let those visualizations manifest themselves. Pro athletes use these techniques all the time. They can work in the rest of your life, too. :up:

jag

I did this alot when I pitched in high school and college. I would visualize myself making the pitch I wanted for a groundout/strikeout whatever. Really actually worked alot, and I never thought of doing it with working out. It should be easier to do in a gym without fans/teams all watching you, and I cant wait to try this.

[jaguarr]

I did this alot when I pitched in high school and college. I would visualize myself making the pitch I wanted for a groundout/strikeout whatever. Really actually worked alot, and I never thought of doing it with working out. It should be easier to do in a gym without fans/teams all watching you, and I cant wait to try this.

Like I said, very powerful. I use it for a lot of things. Visualizing getting that impossible workload done. Visualizing getting that new house we wanted (which we are now living in). Visualizing my wife getting pregnant with a healthy baby (which we are). Visualizing that big bonus and raise (which I got). It really does work. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

It's weird, a lot of what distracts me during flat benching isn't whether I can lift it; it's that my form is perfect. Since I'm currently trying to build up my inner chest, my grip is prob a bit closer than most of you guys. Add that to proper elbow placement, back arch, feet flat on the floor, not bouncing off your chest, etc lol.

What a complicated lift :rolleyes:

[jaguarr]

If you're still working through mechanics of a lift, back off on the weight a bit and practice form for awhile before you go back up to the heavier weight. And visualize doing it with correct form before you do it. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, that's what I had to do a few months ago :up:

I'm almost back to where I was and my form is great.

[jaguarr]

Yeah, that's what I had to do a few months ago :up:

I'm almost back to where I was and my form is great.

Good! Do work! :up:

Legs and shoulders in a little bit for me. My neck and back have been totally FUBAR the last couple of days, and are finally feeling normal again. The pain went away just in time for me to do some nice squats. :D

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

300lbs is definitely my max set of ten now on Deadlifts. With good 3 second holds too. This is really good progress considering way back in August my second set of 12 or 13 was with 225lbs. So we looked at about a 75 lb increase over 5 months. Also my form has improved.

[Colossal Spoons]

What's your grip/stance like for deads?

Mine is a lot more sumo than I thought

[jaguarr]

Nice progress, Shadow! I'm confident I'll hit 500 on my deads this year. Switching me over to test in a few weeks probably won't hurt my chances. :D

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

What's your grip/stance like for deads?

Mine is a lot more sumo than I thought
Legs shoulder width apart.

[ShadowBoxing]

Nice progress, Shadow! I'm confident I'll hit 500 on my deads this year. Switching me over to test in a few weeks probably won't hurt my chances. :D

jag
With luck I'll hit 400+ before next August, I bet I'll start repping 315+ before May.

[jaguarr]

Legs shoulder width apart.

Same for me. :up:

With luck I'll hit 400+ before next August, I bet I'll start repping 315+ before May.

I'm repping around 425 on good days right now and I've pulled 450. 12 months to add another 50 #'s is very doable with a lift like that.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm repping around 425 on good days right now and I've pulled 450. 12 months to add another 50 #'s is very doable with a lift like that.

jag
Deadlifts go up the fastest for me. Seems to be the case with most multi-joint movements.

[jaguarr]

Deadlifts go up the fastest for me. Seems to be the case with most multi-joint movements.

You'll hit a ceiling with them at some point that will take you some time to work through. Mine came around 375. Took me forever to really work past that weight. I'm starting to enter another plateau with them at around 425. I've got some tricks to work through that, though.

jag

[knowsbleed]

You guys are monsters. I'm lucky if I can get 235 on deads...and that's already pushing my back.

[ShadowBoxing]

You guys are monsters. I'm lucky if I can get 235 on deads...and that's already pushing my back.
You probably aren't lifting with good form. That, and you really need to be pushing yourself when doing them. Sometimes after I get me reps I'll take two or three breaths and go for two more. Just be persistant too, you'll get there, it takes time.

[ShadowBoxing]

Mike Huckabee appears to have gotten fatter.

[jaguarr]

You guys are monsters. I'm lucky if I can get 235 on deads...and that's already pushing my back.

I know guys that are pulling 700-800 pounds on deads that make me feel like a weakling. There's always someone bigger and badder. Truth of the matter is that we all have to start somewhere and as long as you're pushing yourself and steadily challenging yourself to make progress, it's all good. When I started lifting seriously again about three years ago, I was using a working weight of around 195 on my deads because of my lower back problems. But hanging in there and working at it has reduced a huge portion of my lower back pain because everything has strengthened up down there. Keep at it. :up:

Hellacious leg/shoulder workout tonight. I've been doing three straight sets of widowmakers with my Ass-To-Grass Squats at a bit of a lighter weight for awhile, so tonight I changed things back up to heavier weight and ran three sets of ten with some progressive loading that ran me up to 275 with a 2 second rest/pause at the bottom of each rep before coming back up. After that I backed it off to 155 and ran a widowmaker set of 20 to top things off before moving on to the rest of my routine. Felt nice to go heavier again. Doing the widowmakers like I've been doing definitely aided in my work with the heavier loads, so I'll be rotating that in and out from now on for sure. Rest of the routine went really nice as well. Ran three sets of ten with my shrugs at 330 with more of that rest/pause action at the top of the rep. Rest/Pause is a great technique for giving your routine a little "oomph" and making it more challenging by making sure you're not using any momentum whatsoever for your lifts. :up:

jag

[Sun_Down]

Busted my back/biceps up tonight :up: Couldn't deadlift because I'm having some quad pain, but otherwise all is good. I'm switching things up and going for 8-10 reps after doing 6-8 reps/5x5 training for a long time. Hopefully I can trick my muscles into some growth.

[jaguarr]

Busted my back/biceps up tonight :up: Couldn't deadlift because I'm having some quad pain, but otherwise all is good. I'm switching things up and going for 8-10 reps after doing 6-8 reps/5x5 training for a long time. Hopefully I can trick my muscles into some growth.

I switch things around pretty often with my rep/set config, whether I'm doing rest/pause, different exercises that I swap in and out every week and other little tricks to keep things fresh and keep my training fresh and keep my growth and progress moving forward. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Reason I inquired about deadlift stance is that the slightest variation on hand placement and leg width can affect how much back vs hamstring you use. Apparently my sumo-like form targets the glutes. Don't get me wrong, my lower back is on fire right now and nothin goin on around my bum lol but if there's a way to use more back, I'll switch my form from week to week :up:

[AlteredEgo]

so. i want to start working out/losing weight. where do i begin? :confused:

[jaguarr]

so. i want to start working out/losing weight. where do i begin? :confused:

If you're wanting to get into weight training, start with the link in my sig.

jag

[user123456789]

It's weird, a lot of what distracts me during flat benching isn't whether I can lift it; it's that my form is perfect. Since I'm currently trying to build up my inner chest, my grip is prob a bit closer than most of you guys. Add that to proper elbow placement, back arch, feet flat on the floor, not bouncing off your chest, etc lol.

What a complicated lift :rolleyes:
ditch the flat it's ghey

stick with inclines (all variations) and close grip bench on decline for the inner/lower

[user123456789]

You probably aren't lifting with good form. That, and you really need to be pushing yourself when doing them. Sometimes after I get me reps I'll take two or three breaths and go for two more. Just be persistant too, you'll get there, it takes time.
fo shizzle, one can not be a pussy with deadlifts

[Scooter]

It's weird, a lot of what distracts me during flat benching isn't whether I can lift it; it's that my form is perfect. Since I'm currently trying to build up my inner chest, my grip is prob a bit closer than most of you guys. Add that to proper elbow placement, back arch, feet flat on the floor, not bouncing off your chest, etc lol.

What a complicated lift :rolleyes:
Your inner chest? You're probably not going to have much luck isolating that area.

Oh, and I can deadlift Jupiter. With good form.

[jaguarr]

Oh, and I can deadlift Jupiter. With good form.

Jupiter is comprised primarily of hydrogen and helium, so it's like...really light.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

ditch the flat it's ghey

stick with inclines (all variations) and close grip bench on decline for the inner/lower

Oh, I love my incline and decline BB bench press :up:

Your inner chest? You're probably not going to have much luck isolating that area.

I've already made a good amount of progress. Just moved my grip a bit closer and slowed down the movement :up:

[jaguarr]

Filling out the chest area is primarily just time + heavy ass weight + food + rest, so Scooter's really not wrong. You can SORT of emphasize lower, middle and upper chest by varying the angle of your lifts, and you can SORT of emphasize a certain part of a muscle group by using mind-muscle connection and really focusing on that part of the muscle group during a lift. But, really, it's impossible to work a muscle group without working the entire length of the muscle fiber of that muscle group.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Well yeah, the rest of my chest is just as important to me. Just years of a too-wide grip on the bench had my pecs running away from each other lol

[AndThePickles]

I can't wait until I graduate and am not using a college gym. Since the semester just started, I guess everyone thinks it's time to get in shape due to New Year's resolutions still, and the gym was OUTRAGEOUSLY packed. Every machine was being used and had lines except for the spin bike. There wasn't even room for me to do ab work. I used the spinner bike, but I hate how much it hurts the crotchal region :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't wait until I graduate and am not using a college gym. Since the semester just started, I guess everyone thinks it's time to get in shape due to New Year's resolutions still, and the gym was OUTRAGEOUSLY packed. Every machine was being used and had lines except for the spin bike. There wasn't even room for me to do ab work. I used the spinner bike, but I hate how much it hurts the crotchal region :csad:

Spring Break, wooooo!

[AndThePickles]

Spring Break, wooooo!

I hate it! :cmad:

[jaguarr]

This pain in your crotchal region...can you describe it?

jag

[jaguarr]

Well yeah, the rest of my chest is just as important to me. Just years of a too-wide grip on the bench had my pecs running away from each other lol

I think a lot of guys go through a stage where, as their pectorals are developing they sometimes appear to be growing apart. Over time, as you continue to grow and develop, they start coming back together, though. Just have to keep at it. :up:

jag

[user123456789]

I can't wait until I graduate and am not using a college gym. Since the semester just started, I guess everyone thinks it's time to get in shape due to New Year's resolutions still, and the gym was OUTRAGEOUSLY packed. Every machine was being used and had lines except for the spin bike. There wasn't even room for me to do ab work. I used the spinner bike, but I hate how much it hurts the crotchal region :csad:
that's no different than any chain gym i've been to

[Colossal Spoons]

I think a lot of guys go through a stage where, as their pectorals are developing they sometimes appear to be growing apart. Over time, as you continue to grow and develop, they start coming back together, though. Just have to keep at it. :up:

jag


Can't wait

[Scooter]

Jupiter is comprised primarily of hydrogen and helium, so it's like...really light.

jag
It's not the weight...it's the shape...it's cumbersome damnit...

And nobody loosens pickle jars like I do...

:bh:

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh snap

[jaguarr]

It's not the weight...it's the shape...it's cumbersome damnit...

Well, if you want to go there, that would be more of a clean and press, not a deadlift, so you aren't even doing the right lift.


And nobody loosens pickle jars like I do...

:bh:


Oh snap, indeed, Spoons! You gonna let him talk about your girl like that? :eek:

jag

[Scooter]

Filling out the chest area is primarily just time + heavy ass weight + food + rest, so Scooter's really not wrong. You can SORT of emphasize lower, middle and upper chest by varying the angle of your lifts, and you can SORT of emphasize a certain part of a muscle group by using mind-muscle connection and really focusing on that part of the muscle group during a lift. But, really, it's impossible to work a muscle group without working the entire length of the muscle fiber of that muscle group.

jag
Right, and the fibers in the pectoral muscles generally run (mostly) horizontally, so isolating just the innermost portion of said fibers is fairly impossible. Not to say you can't build some impressive pecs though, Spoons. My advice would simply be to not worry about micro-analyzing anything.

[AndThePickles]

This pain in your crotchal region...can you describe it?

jag

It's inappropriate for this website :o

that's no different than any chain gym i've been to

Way to break my spirits! :csad:


Oh snap, indeed, Spoons! You gonna let him talk about your girl like that? :eek:

jag

:cmad:

[Fran]

sounds hot.

[ShadowBoxing]

Right, and the fibers in the pectoral muscles generally run (mostly) horizontally, so isolating just the innermost portion of said fibers is fairly impossible. Not to say you can't build some impressive pecs though, Spoons. My advice would simply be to not worry about micro-analyzing anything.
I find if you want to bring out that coveted middle pec there are three words to committ to memory: concentration, concentration, concentration. It's really less about what exercises you do, though a fly is going to be your best bet, but how you do it and really working that mind muscle connection. I envision trying to crush a nut with my inner pec. Really trying to crush and squeeze them together each and every rep. Yes, like you said, this works more than just the inner, but ultimately you can shift emphasis simply by concentrating on where you want to hit.

[Colossal Spoons]

You do your flys on a machine or with DBs?

[jaguarr]

Flys with DB's FTW! :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, thought you'd say that

[ShadowBoxing]

You do your flys on a machine or with DBs?
DBs or Cables. Sometimes I'll use the machine for flat, but I feel my contraction is better with cables or DBs.

[Colossal Spoons]

:up:

[Sun_Down]

I can't wait until I graduate and am not using a college gym. Since the semester just started, I guess everyone thinks it's time to get in shape due to New Year's resolutions still, and the gym was OUTRAGEOUSLY packed.

Tell me about it. I haven't been able to DB bench/incline all month.

Although I suppose my stabilizer muscles will thank me later.

[ShadowBoxing]

I can't wait until I graduate and am not using a college gym. Since the semester just started, I guess everyone thinks it's time to get in shape due to New Year's resolutions still, and the gym was OUTRAGEOUSLY packed. Every machine was being used and had lines except for the spin bike. There wasn't even room for me to do ab work. I used the spinner bike, but I hate how much it hurts the crotchal region :csad:
Eh. I braved it when I went to College. People will hog the machines whereever you go. Most people view those places as social clubs. If you're determined and go in to get work done and not chat, people will get out of your way. You just have to ask, and if they don't let you work in start telling them you need to work in. They'll let you rather than cause a ton of angst.

[jaguarr]

Eh. I braved it when I went to College. People will hog the machines whereever you go. Most people view those places as social clubs. If you're determined and go in to get work done and not chat, people will get out of your way. You just have to ask, and if they don't let you work in start telling them you need to work in. They'll let you rather than cause a ton of angst.

I rarely work out in public gyms, anymore. Mostly when I'm traveling on business. It's great fun, though, to get some guys to agree to let you sit in with them on bench or squats, let them go through their set and then start piling on the weight for your own set and watch their eyes widen as you do your sets with that. I always ask 'em if they would help me unload the weight so they can work back in at their weight. At least 50% of the time they say "Oh, that's okay, we were pretty much done anyway" and leave. Haha! :D

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Heh Heh.

[Dorian Gray]

Jump rope 10 minutes
sationary bike - 20 minutes
2 mile run

Great workout on my marcy home gym.
ab and forearm workout..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/dorian23/halter-12.gif
....work done!

Though 4.a.m. is a bad time to workout:csad: Never do that again.

[Colossal Spoons]

4 in the morning? :eek:

[Dorian Gray]

4 in the morning? :eek:

Yea:csad:, I woke up around 3:45 and couldn't get back to sleep....so I just decided to start working out.

[jaguarr]

4 in the morning? :eek:

This....this is madness!!!!!

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

No this is Sparta. We have a bottomless pit here.

[jaguarr]

Tsk. I expected one of the newbs to fall for that bait, Shadow. But not you! SMH.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Tsk. I expected one of the newbs to fall for that bait, Shadow. But not you! SMH.

jag
Yes, but I trying to make my post look casual as I said it:o . Like instead of angry Sparta this is like nice Sparta. We give tours here, of our bottomless pit. Children get in for free.

[Dorian Gray]

I still have never seen that movie...

[jaguarr]

Yes, but I trying to make my post look casual as I said it:o . Like instead of angry Sparta this is like nice Sparta. We give tours here, of our bottomless pit. Children get in for free.

Throw in some balloons for my kid and I'll let it pass. :cmad:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I still have never seen that movie...

Get on that

[ShadowBoxing]

Throw in some balloons for my kid and I'll let it pass. :cmad:

jag
Okay, here are the balloons.

*Kicks kids into pit*

Only one balloon per customer:o

[jaguarr]

Okay, here are the balloons.

*Kicks kids into pit*

Only one balloon per customer:o


I want you to know that I laughed at that...as I was kicking you into the pit.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

This thread is gonna become a whole lotta pit kicking in a minute.

[user123456789]

damn u guys flirt a lot

[jaguarr]

*kicks boyscouT into the pit*

:up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

*Climbs out of pit, bumps thread*

[Superman79]

Will you guys stop kicking people into the Pit of Death??

[ShadowBoxing]

*kicks SM79 into pit*

Okay, I'll stop.

[Superman79]

**Hanging from edge of the pit**

Not cool dude, not cool

[jaguarr]

*kicks SM79 into pit*



*nods*

He didn't say "please". :up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

*nods*

He didn't say "please". :up:

jag
Nope, he sure didn't.
**Hanging from edge of the pit**

Not cool dude, not cool
That's good isometric training. Keep up the good work.

[AndThePickles]

Stop ramming each other and go do work in the gym! :cmad:

[ShadowBoxing]

4:30pm scheduled leg day today for me.

[Superman79]

Day off for me today...I'm giving blood.

I'll likely do some walking to feel like I did something today.

[The Original Bamfer]

Day off for me today...I'm giving blood.

I'll likely do some walking to feel like I did something today.

Whatever, pasty. :o

[Superman79]

Whatever, pasty. :o

Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...er...white...

[jaguarr]

Back and bi's for me later today. :up:

jag

[The Original Bamfer]

Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...er...white...

Hey, I have some pigmentation.

[Figs]

I got a question for Shadowboxing and jaguarr since they seem to know quite a damn bit about the body and working out. If anyone else wants to answer go right ahead.

I've been lazy for too long. I need to start exercising but have one problem for now. I have Bi lateral hernia. Both the left and right sides of my abdomen. Through this I've learned just how much you use your stomach muscles for some of the smallest things.

Until I can get surgery, do you recommend any types of possible workouts or exercise that I can do that won't affect me down there too badly?

[jaguarr]

I got a question for Shadowboxing and jaguarr since they seem to know quite a damn bit about the body and working out. If anyone else wants to answer go right ahead.

I've been lazy for too long. I need to start exercising but have one problem for now. I have Bi lateral hernia. Both the left and right sides of my abdomen. Through this I've learned just how much you use your stomach muscles for some of the smallest things.

Until I can get surgery, do you recommend any types of possible workouts or exercise that I can do that won't affect me down there too badly?

This is a hard one to answer, because it really depends on how severe your inguinal hernia is. Your limitations will be dependent on whether there is risk of inflicting additional damage or not and only your doctor or surgeon could answer that, so it's definitely worth a conversation with him or her about what you are or are not allowed to do. That said, I would think that moderate cardio like walking or an elliptical machine may be permissible. But with a hernia, I would probably avoid weight training or anything overly strenuous without clearance from the doctor. The core is used in absolutely everything we do from a physical standpoint, so you won't want to do anything to worsen your condition. Post surgery will be where you'll have your work in front of you for full recovery.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I'm with Jag on this one. Whatever it is, it's going to be light or moderate cardio at best, and maybe, maybe some light, light weight training. That said, whatever you attempt to do must, absolutely, without question be cleared with a doctor. NOT WITH A TRAINER. I can't stress that last part enough either. I know a lot of people with medical problems who go to trainers as a means of "clearing" their workout program. Some trainers will tell you anything, even if it's detrimental, to get you to work out with them.

[Colossal Spoons]

Day off for me today...I'm giving blood.

I'll likely do some walking to feel like I did something today.

Make that bone marrow do work!

[jaguarr]

Yeah, I'm with Jag on this one. Whatever it is, it's going to be light or moderate cardio at best, and maybe, maybe some light, light weight training. That said, whatever you attempt to do must, absolutely, without question be cleared with a doctor. NOT WITH A TRAINER. I can't stress that last part enough either. I know a lot of people with medical problems who go to trainers as a means of "clearing" their workout program. Some trainers will tell you anything, even if it's detrimental, to get you to work out with them.

Yes, trainers are not doctors, no matter how much they think they might know. :up:

jag

[Figs]

This is a hard one to answer, because it really depends on how severe your inguinal hernia is. Your limitations will be dependent on whether there is risk of inflicting additional damage or not and only your doctor or surgeon could answer that, so it's definitely worth a conversation with him or her about what you are or are not allowed to do. That said, I would think that moderate cardio like walking or an elliptical machine may be permissible. But with a hernia, I would probably avoid weight training or anything overly strenuous without clearance from the doctor. The core is used in absolutely everything we do from a physical standpoint, so you won't want to do anything to worsen your condition. Post surgery will be where you'll have your work in front of you for full recovery.

jag


Yeah, I'm with Jag on this one. Whatever it is, it's going to be light or moderate cardio at best, and maybe, maybe some light, light weight training. That said, whatever you attempt to do must, absolutely, without question be cleared with a doctor. NOT WITH A TRAINER. I can't stress that last part enough either. I know a lot of people with medical problems who go to trainers as a means of "clearing" their workout program. Some trainers will tell you anything, even if it's detrimental, to get you to work out with them.


Thanks! My condition isn't that bad, I've been wearing one of those hernia brace/belts for the past year. Finally got hired on from being a temp last November and got medical. I'm trying to get the surgery done in April hopefully, so I won't have too long to wait.

I guess I'll just take more walks for cardio like you two mentioned in the meantime.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yes, trainers are not doctors, no matter how much they think they might know. :up:

jag
My philosophy on trainers has certainly changed with experience. I used to think trainers were like the high father's of training knowledge, and admittedly when I was young most of the trainers I knew were in better shape than me. Now, though, I realize how much the lack of regulation kills that industry. Now if I meet a trainer I almost immediately assume he/she is a piece of sh**, and then I can act pleasantly surprised when I find one that actually knows his/her stuff. It amazes me how many of them talk out their ass****s

[jaguarr]

Thanks! My condition isn't that bad, I've been wearing one of those hernia brace/belts for the past year. Finally got hired on from being a temp last November and got medical. I'm trying to get the surgery done in April hopefully, so I won't have too long to wait.

I guess I'll just take more walks for cardio like you two mentioned in the meantime.

Good plan and glad you're going to be able to get it fixed, soon. It's just one of those things that you don't want to make worse while you're waiting to get the surgery taken care of. Just protect your core and do some walking in the meantime. Good luck and let us know how it all goes! We'll be here to help you with the recovery process. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

My philosophy on trainers has certainly changed with experience. I used to think trainers were like the high father's of training knowledge, and admittedly when I was young most of the trainers I knew were in better shape than me. Now, though, I realize how much the lack of regulation kills that industry. Now if I meet a trainer I almost immediately assume he/she is a piece of sh**, and then I can act pleasantly surprised when I find one that actually knows his/her stuff. It amazes me how many of them talk out their ass****s

Trainers that AREN'T misinformed jackasses are rare. But I'm jaded. :)

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Trainers that AREN'T misinformed jackasses are rare. But I'm jaded. :)

jag
Not jaded, you're just being a realist. When my "friend" Toby there can be a trainer and have the most clientel in the gym you know something is wrong.

[Colossal Spoons]

My pullups are getting a lot better. I went from barely being able to do 3 a few weeks ago to doing 5 sets of 3. Doesn't sound like much but I've got a lot of lbs to lift lol

[ShadowBoxing]

My pullups are getting a lot better. I went from barely being able to do 3 a few weeks ago to doing 5 sets of 3. Doesn't sound like much but I've got a lot of lbs to lift lol
I haven't done pullups in a long while. I know I can get 15 without any trouble, but I don't like the contraction on my lats as much as I do with pulldowns.

[jaguarr]

Weighted pull-ups FTW! :up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Weighted pull-ups FTW! :up:

jag
Those were the ones I used to do. I think it's quiet possible I burnt myself out on pullups considering they used to be a staple of my workouts for other a year or so.

[AndThePickles]

My pullups are getting a lot better. I went from barely being able to do 3 a few weeks ago to doing 5 sets of 3. Doesn't sound like much but I've got a lot of lbs to lift lol

The fact that you can pull up your lower body weight that much is actually quite astounding lol. Congrats!! :up: :up:

[jaguarr]

Those were the ones I used to do. I think it's quiet possible I burnt myself out on pullups considering they used to be a staple of my workouts for other a year or so.

For pure strength, they are a fantastic movement. For even lat development, maybe not so much, but they will bring growth.

The fact that you can pull up your lower body weight that much is actually quite astounding lol. Congrats!! :up: :up:

I think she just called you a fatty, dude. LOL! :D

jag

[AndThePickles]

I think she just called you a fatty, dude. LOL! :D

jag

Lol not at all. He has some REALLY muscular legs and same with his booty. I think one of his thighs is as big as my waist, and his buttcheeks could kill a small animal :csad:

[ShadowBoxing]

I think she just called you a fatty, dude. LOL! :D

jag
I dunno she did say "the fact that you can pull up your lower body". That sounds a little different to me:huh: .

[Colossal Spoons]

Lol not at all. He has some REALLY muscular legs and same with his booty. I think one of his thighs is as big as my waist, and his buttcheeks could kill a small animal :csad:

You have Asperger's

For pure strength, they are a fantastic movement. For even lat development, maybe not so much, but they will bring growth.

jag

Like SB, I'm burned out too; but on lat pulldowns. I welcome the change to pullups as I'd never really done 'em before

[jaguarr]

No, I heard her saying "Spoons has a big ass".

jag

[Dangerous]

I have just started eating whey powder for fun, to see what happens.

[Colossal Spoons]

No, I heard her saying "Spoons has a big ass".

jag

Pretty much lol

I have just started eating whey powder for fun, to see what happens.

What the heck? You workin out at all?

[AndThePickles]

:cmad: I was giving a compliment :csad:

[jaguarr]

Those were the ones I used to do. I think it's quiet possible I burnt myself out on pullups considering they used to be a staple of my workouts for other a year or so.

:cmad: I was giving a compliment :csad:

If Spoons told you that you had a big ass, would you take that as a compliment? :o

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, she would

[AndThePickles]

If Spoons told you that you had a big ass, would you take that as a compliment? :o

jag

Man, I would be frickin ecstatic!!! :heart:

[jaguarr]

This is very worrisome. Most women would not take such a thing as a compliment. We may need to open her up and study her in the name of science!

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Dating a Spanish woman, your opinion is very one-sided lol. Remember, as a black man; me telling a woman her ass is "big" is 9 times out of 10 a good thing.

[jaguarr]

Dating a Spanish woman, your opinion is very one-sided lol. Remember, as a black man; telling a woman her ass is "big" is 9 times out of 10 a good thing.

I'm married to The Bootylicious, son. They don't like to hear that their ass is getting bigger. :o

jag

[AndThePickles]

Dating a Spanish woman, your opinion is very one-sided lol. Remember, as a black man; me telling a woman her ass is "big" is 9 times out of 10 a good thing.

It's my dream :csad:

[Dangerous]

Hheheheeh,

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm married to The Bootylicious, son. They don't like to hear that their ass is getting bigger. :o

jag


Mrs Jag's rump is probably rarely a topic of discussion in your house outside of compliments

It's my dream :csad:

You can do it!

/Tony Little

[jaguarr]

Mrs Jag's rump is probably rarely a topic of discussion in your house outside of compliments



She doesn't mind hearing how gorgeous it is, but yeah...Spanish women like having the big, full booty but not TOO big or full.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Right, if she has to turn sideways to walk through doors, then you got a problem lol

[Fran]

:up:

[AndThePickles]

Tell Mrs. Jag that I'll gladly take any spare booty she doesn't want :o White women really gotta work for our **** :csad:

[Fran]

Man, I would be frickin ecstatic!!! :heart:

Hahahahaha. :yay:

[jaguarr]

Right, if she has to turn sideways to walk through doors, then you got a problem lol

LOL! Yeah, we don't have a problem. Haha!

jag

[Superman79]

I haven't done pullups in a long while. I know I can get 15 without any trouble, but I don't like the contraction on my lats as much as I do with pulldowns.

See, I'm the opposite, I prefer the feel of pullups. That and I have a tendency to clinch my abs more with a pullup than a pulldown, making it a more full body workout...

[mrvlknight21]

Spoons-you say you have a lot of weight to pull up....for some reason I didnt think you weighed more than me. What is your height & weight?

I too, prefer pullups and have a nice mixture of about 7-8 different styles of pullups, plus I do them on rings sometimes for another feel. One of my favorite exercises.

[jaguarr]

Spoons only weighs a buck-fifty but his ass weighs seventy pounds. :o

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Oh, so it is more the distribution of the weight...like kettlebells versus dumbbells?

[jaguarr]

Oh, so it is more the distributuon of the weight...like kettlebells versus dumbbells?


Exactly. :up: Spoons is pretty tall if I remember. Like 6'1" or something.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Spoons-you say you have a lot of weight to pull up....for some reason I didnt think you weighed more than me. What is your height & weight?


I'm 6 feet even and weight 220 on the dot. People in my family are just naturally bottom heavy.

Spoons only weighs a buck-fifty but his ass weighs seventy pounds. :o

jag

Jerk lol. My weight really is split about 65/35 lower/upper :(

[jaguarr]

Jerk lol. My weight really is split about 65/35 lower/upper :(


Oh, sorry. My bad. :o

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm thinking about getting some sort of muscle graft(not really though). If I could transfer some quad, hamstring, or glute to my biceps or chest; I'd be proportionate and friggin 'uuuge.

[jaguarr]

Actually, if you've got mass down in the legs and glutes already, then you should eventually be able to build up proportionately in your upper body. Just takes time + food + heavy ass weight + rest. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Hyuuuuuuuuuuge!

[mrvlknight21]

Forget what Jag said Spoons! I can get you HYUUUUGE and JAKKED!
Drink a Sprite every morning and then do 10 squats. Repeat this until 11am. Then at noon, eat a Snickers and a double cheeseburger and be sure to do a set of air resisted arm curls.
Then, that night, dont eat anything until 733 on the dot. At that point, eat as much fried food as possible, followed immediately by watching Deal or No Deal.
During the commercials, do a jumping jack everytime a beer or car ad comes on. Go to bed at 114am.
You will be HYUUUGE and JAKKED in 8 days if you follow this program.

[jaguarr]

Forget what Jag said Spoons! I can get you HYUUUUGE and JAKKED!
Drink a Sprite every morning and then do 10 squats. Repeat this until 11am. Then at noon, eat a Snickers and a double cheeseburger and be sure to do a set of air resisted arm curls.
Then, that night, dont eat anything until 733 on the dot. At that point, eat as much fried food as possible, followed immediately by watching Deal or No Deal.
During the commercials, do a jumping jack everytime a beer or car ad comes on. Go to bed at 114am.
You will be HYUUUGE and JAKKED in 8 days if you follow this program.

How much caffeine have you had today, young man?

jag

[mrvlknight21]

However, if you fail to meet anyone of these goals for anytime during the 8 days, you will have no progress. You may however, substitute the squats for YOGA.

[mrvlknight21]

How much caffeine have you had today, young man?

jag

NOT ENOUGH!

[Colossal Spoons]

Actually, if you've got mass down in the legs and glutes already, then you should eventually be able to build up proportionately in your upper body. Just takes time + food + heavy ass weight + rest. :up:

jag

Yeah, def makin progress. Just think it's funny how my weight is distributed.

Hyuuuuuuuuuuge!

Soon!

[jaguarr]

NOT ENOUGH!

Alright, then. Drink three cups of coffee every five minutes until your heart stops and then back it off to 1 cup every 15 minutes. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Hey Spoons, you will like this-John Cena training vid
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ABGmy_QhB8w

Jag-I expect you to critique his squatting form!

[mrvlknight21]

Alright, then. Drink three cups of coffee every five minutes until your heart stops and then back it off to 1 cup every 15 minutes. :up:

jag

Dang...I hate coffee! :csad:

[Golgo-13]

Just finished up working my legs:

I supersetted squats, lunges and stiff leg deadlifts..and it kicked my ass! I think it may have something to do with the cold weather, as i have the weights out on the balcony, and the cold bar/dumbbells, coupled with the cold air i'm breathing in, tends to wear me down a little faster. I wear weight gloves only cause of the temp, but it's still not helping.

I've decided i'm gonna try the 'six smaller meals a day' diet as opposed to the traditional 3 a day, and see how that works for me.

[ShadowBoxing]

Forget what Jag said Spoons! I can get you HYUUUUGE and JAKKED!
Drink a Sprite every morning and then do 10 squats. Repeat this until 11am. Then at noon, eat a Snickers and a double cheeseburger and be sure to do a set of air resisted arm curls.
Then, that night, dont eat anything until 733 on the dot. At that point, eat as much fried food as possible, followed immediately by watching Deal or No Deal.
During the commercials, do a jumping jack everytime a beer or car ad comes on. Go to bed at 114am.
You will be HYUUUGE and JAKKED in 8 days if you follow this program.
With that kind of sound thinking, you could be a personal trainer.

[jaguarr]

Hey Spoons, you will like this-John Cena training vid
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ABGmy_QhB8w

Jag-I expect you to critique his squatting form!


You know what? He's got great form on his squats. He goes ASS TO GRASS, kids. All the way down. No bounce at the bottom. And he was doing ATG Squats with ~500 #'s from what I could get a look at (his damn trainer was always standing in the friggin' shot). The other interesting thing is them talking about doing his squats barefooted. I did that for the longest time as well, but it gave me some problems in my feet so I quit doing it. His deads were spot on, too. That's a guy who knows what he's doing in the gym and knows how to get work done. This vid also reminded me of a long lost trick that I need to add into my arsenal: chains. Some heavy chains are great to add in on close or reverse grip presses like they were doing. I'll have to pick up some chains pretty soon. :up:

Nice find, Devil.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Hey Spoons, you will like this-John Cena training vid
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ABGmy_QhB8w

Jag-I expect you to critique his squatting form!

Some fan won a contest and he got to train with Cena. The guy was pretty pudgy. Cena told the guy to just superset all his exercises instead of doing cardio. Cena's gym advice is on high alert as far as I'm concerned. :o

[jaguarr]

Dang...I hate coffee! :csad:

You could always take it as an enema so you don't have to taste it. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

Just finished up working my legs:

I supersetted squats, lunges and stiff leg deadlifts..and it kicked my ass! I think it may have something to do with the cold weather, as i have the weights out on the balcony, and the cold bar/dumbbells, coupled with the cold air i'm breathing in, tends to wear me down a little faster. I wear weight gloves only cause of the temp, but it's still not helping.

I've decided i'm gonna try the 'six smaller meals a day' diet as opposed to the traditional 3 a day, and see how that works for me.

Cold does wear you down faster, as you're expending energy just trying to stay warm. I think you'll like your progress with the 6 mid-sized meals per day instead of three bigger ones. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

Some fan won a contest and he got to train with Cena. The guy was pretty pudgy. Cena told the guy to just superset all his exercises instead of doing cardio. Cena's gym advice is on high alert as far as I'm concerned. :o

Yeah, I don't know that that's the best advice for a guy who's overweight and out of shape. Supersets are fine as a way to burn more fat for guys who are already somewhat jacked, but there's really no replacement for actual cardio.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

I go the same depth as Cena actually, about the same at least. If it's not as low, it's not much higher. We set the catch the same level.

[jaguarr]

I go the same depth as Cena actually, about the same at least.

On the really heavy stuff, he wasn't going as low as his reps with lighter weight, but he was still going low enough to call it Ass To Grass. He was going as far down as he possibly could before coming back up. That's ATG. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I don't know that that's the best advice for a guy who's overweight and out of shape. Supersets are fine as a way to burn more fat for guys who are already somewhat jacked, but there's really no replacement for actual cardio.

jag

Yeah, Cena apparently hates cardio.

His thumb placement during benching is pretty FUBAR too. Everything else looks good :up:

[jaguarr]

Yeah, Cena apparently hates cardio.

His thumb placement during benching is pretty FUBAR too. Everything else looks good :up:

Yeah, I know some guys who avoid cardio like the plague. I think it holds them back, personally. And I also have known some guys who do some really wonky **** with their thumbs on bench movements. One guy did them open handed and didn't wrap his thumb around the bar. That scared the **** out of me every time he benched. I was sure he was going to slip the weight and told him so. He kept giving me that "Never happen!" line. One day it happened. With 325 on the bar. Lucky for him there were guys spotting not just above him but on either side of the bar. They kind of caught the weight before it fell on his chest full force, but not enough to keep him from cracking three ribs. When he finally came back to the gym, he was using a thumb-wrapped grip for his bench movements. Dumbass.

jag

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, def makin progress. Just think it's funny how my weight is distributed.


If it makes you feel better, I'm very jealous. The rest of us have to squat for ages to build leg muscle...you do one squat and BAM :o

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, I know some guys who avoid cardio like the plague. I think it holds them back, personally. And I also have known some guys who do some really wonky **** with their thumbs on bench movements. One guy did them open handed and didn't wrap his thumb around the bar. That scared the **** out of me every time he benched. I was sure he was going to slip the weight and told him so. He kept giving me that "Never happen!" line. One day it happened. With 325 on the bar. Lucky for him there were guys spotting not just above him but on either side of the bar. They kind of caught the weight before it fell on his chest full force, but not enough to keep him from cracking three ribs. When he finally came back to the gym, he was using a thumb-wrapped grip for his bench movements. Dumbass.

jag

WOW

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well I have one more month of putting on weight before I slim down my diet. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah, I know some guys who avoid cardio like the plague. I think it holds them back, personally. And I also have known some guys who do some really wonky **** with their thumbs on bench movements. One guy did them open handed and didn't wrap his thumb around the bar. That scared the **** out of me every time he benched. I was sure he was going to slip the weight and told him so. He kept giving me that "Never happen!" line. One day it happened. With 325 on the bar. Lucky for him there were guys spotting not just above him but on either side of the bar. They kind of caught the weight before it fell on his chest full force, but not enough to keep him from cracking three ribs. When he finally came back to the gym, he was using a thumb-wrapped grip for his bench movements. Dumbass.

jag

HA. Why are there so many jerks at the gym?

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I know some guys who avoid cardio like the plague. I think it holds them back, personally. And I also have known some guys who do some really wonky **** with their thumbs on bench movements. One guy did them open handed and didn't wrap his thumb around the bar. That scared the **** out of me every time he benched. I was sure he was going to slip the weight and told him so. He kept giving me that "Never happen!" line. One day it happened. With 325 on the bar. Lucky for him there were guys spotting not just above him but on either side of the bar. They kind of caught the weight before it fell on his chest full force, but not enough to keep him from cracking three ribs. When he finally came back to the gym, he was using a thumb-wrapped grip for his bench movements. Dumbass.

jag

Glad that guy learned his lesson :o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah, I don't know that that's the best advice for a guy who's overweight and out of shape. Supersets are fine as a way to burn more fat for guys who are already somewhat jacked, but there's really no replacement for actual cardio.

jag

Word I can't agree more. IMHO I think jogging/running is the best overall cardio you can do in terms of cardiovascular development and fat burning.

[jaguarr]

Well I have one more month of putting on weight before I slim down my diet. :up:

In the time it took you to type this, you missed three meals. :down

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Word I can't agree more. IMHO I think jogging/running is the best overall cardio you can do in terms of cardiovascular development and fat burning.

I really should jog/run more. All of my cardio comes form eliptical and biking

[AndThePickles]

Running hurts my chest and knees too much :down:

[jaguarr]

My joints can't take jogging. Elliptical and jumprope for me. :up:

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

In the time it took you to type this, you missed three meals. :down

jag

Ha ha, well good for me. Hey I went to the dr.s the other and got on the scale, fully clothed though. But I was at 172.2 heaviest I've ever been in my life :D

[AndThePickles]

Elliptical, stairstepper, and biking FTW.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I really should jog/run more. All of my cardio comes form eliptical and biking

Man it is so great, luckily I don't have problems with my joints and I'm not a real heavy guy so my joints can take it :up:

IMHO biking sucks for cardio ?:down From some of the research I've done I've read several times that biking is the least energy consuming form of cardio. Although it may be wrong it certainly feels like it to me.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Running hurts my chest and knees too much :down:

Swim if you can :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Man it is so great, luckily I don't have problems with my joints and I'm not a real heavy guy so my joints can take it :up:

IMHO biking sucks for cardio ?:down From some of the research I've done I've read several times that biking is the least energy consuming form of cardio. Although it may be wrong it certainly feels like it to me.

Certain bikes are lazy as hell. Just gotta find the right one :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Certain bikes are lazy as hell. Just gotta find the right one :up:

Yeah I know there are different bikes and you can ride up hill or increase the resistance and all that stuff. But I still think bikes suck :down:

[AndThePickles]

Yeah I know there are different bikes and you can ride up hill or increase the resistance and all that stuff. But I still think bikes suck :down:

I don't feel like I get quite as much of a "cardio" workout from them...moreso a leg/butt workout. I still like to bike occasionally though.

[mrvlknight21]

I run usually, but I row on the waterrower too. The other day, I did tabata intervals on the rower.
I often do circuits that have a lot of reps and little rest and it feels a lot like cardio when I am doing it!
I would like a mountain bike, just to go on a ride from time to time (not for cardio, just to ride and enjoy it).

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't feel like I get quite as much of a "cardio" workout from them...moreso a leg/butt workout. I still like to bike occasionally though.

Oh really? Next time I'm visiting, we'll do 30 mins, fast paced(maybe HIIT) on the spinner bikes. ;)

[AndThePickles]

Oh really? Next time I'm visiting, we'll do 30 mins, fast paced(maybe HIIT) on the spinner bikes. ;)

It's not that I don't sweat, and it KILLS my legs...just doesn't feel as cardiovascular.

[Colossal Spoons]

It's not that I don't sweat, and it KILLS my legs...just doesn't feel as cardiovascular.

Describe how you feel after a more "cardiovscular" workout as opposed to "just sweating"

[AndThePickles]

Describe how you feel after a more "cardiovscular" workout as opposed to "just sweating"

Increased heart rate, breathing harder

[Colossal Spoons]

Increased heart rate, breathing harder

Ok, I'll see you next weekend :D

[AndThePickles]

Ok, I'll see you next weekend :D

Haha! Now I know what to say to get you to come visit :o

[Colossal Spoons]

Megan's b-day too :up:

But you and I have a date on those bikes :cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

HEY! Back on topic you two!
No innuendos!

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha

[AndThePickles]

Megan's b-day too :up:

But you and I have a date on those bikes :cmad:

Haha, you're on :heart:

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I know some guys who avoid cardio like the plague. I think it holds them back, personally. And I also have known some guys who do some really wonky **** with their thumbs on bench movements. One guy did them open handed and didn't wrap his thumb around the bar. That scared the **** out of me every time he benched. I was sure he was going to slip the weight and told him so. He kept giving me that "Never happen!" line. One day it happened. With 325 on the bar. Lucky for him there were guys spotting not just above him but on either side of the bar. They kind of caught the weight before it fell on his chest full force, but not enough to keep him from cracking three ribs. When he finally came back to the gym, he was using a thumb-wrapped grip for his bench movements. Dumbass.

jag
Classic. I saw a guy once doing the rotating shrugs. You know when they don't go up and down, but rather move in a circular motion. He popped his shoulder out of joint, then dropped the weight on his foot...which I'm betting he broke in several places.

I tend to avoid correcting people in the gym as a general rule, usually because they just ignore you and do whatever the hell they want. Learning the hard way is infinitely more effective anyways.

[Colossal Spoons]

Classic. I saw a guy once doing the rotating shrugs. You know when they don't go up and down, but rather move in a circular motion. He popped his shoulder out of joint, then dropped the weight on his foot...which I'm betting he broke in several places.

I tend to avoid correcting people in the gym as a general rule, usually because they just ignore you and do whatever the hell they want. Learning the hard way is infinitely more effective anyways.

People are always trying to **** up their rotator cuffs :o

[ShadowBoxing]

Yep, tell me about it. Rotator cuffs injuries FTL.

[Colossal Spoons]

I tried correcting a guy for that once and he went on some rant about his coach telling him it was ok

[ShadowBoxing]

I tried correcting a guy for that once and he went on some rant about his coach telling him it was ok
Human nature, I'm afraid. I'm a strict advocate of "lead by example". If you do what you do and earn what you get people will follow you. Sometimes the best way to correct someone is simply to stand next to them, grab the weight and perform the movement with correct form and proper technique right before their very eyes.

Lots of people make it their business to be the "nagging father figures" of the world, and most of the time those who spend their time correcting others rarely spend much time correcting themselves.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Human nature, I'm afraid. I'm a strict advocate of "lead by example". If you do what you do and earn what you get people will follow you. Sometimes the best way to correct someone is simply to stand next to them, grab the weight and perform the movement with correct form and proper technique right before their very eyes.

Lots of people make it their business to be the "nagging father figures" of world, and most of the time those who spend their time correcting others rarely spend much time correcting themselves.

:up:

[jaguarr]

Heavy ass back and bi work FTW, tonight! :up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Heavy ass leg work today. I did 290 for a set of ten. Next week my third set will be 300 for a set of 8. That's a promise.

[Colossal Spoons]

I thoroughly enjoyed my day off(from everything, even cardio) today :up:

[JStorm]

I get to run in the snow, and up a mountain, tomorrow.

I think I'll put a picture of Devil on my mirror and grow a beard.



Also - thanks to all that helped out on my new home gym. I know it's been a while since I've posted in here; yet the advice, and extra help that Devil got reminded me of the importance of this thread: health, fitness, awareness.

My side of the story - it cost me 30 bucks a month to attend my previous gym. I will spend, roughly, three times that - however, more importantly, that cost will not re-occur.

Thanks guys - and DEVIL.

Storm

[jaguarr]

Not bleeding money to some gym owner: Yet another reason I got my own gear. :up: Enjoy the new setup, Storm. And do work or we'll send you to live with Bamfer for a year.

jag

[terry78]

People are forced to use the gyms when the weather is ridiculous. Unless you're just lifting, but I do cardio more than anything and I prefer to run outside.

[JStorm]

Should I be afraid of this Bamfer? :confused:

[jaguarr]

People are forced to use the gyms when the weather is ridiculous. Unless you're just lifting, but I do cardio more than anything and I prefer to run outside.

If I was into running, I'd prefer the outdoors as well.

Should I be afraid of this Bamfer? :confused:

No. Yes. Maybe. Probably. Absolutely.

jag

[JStorm]

When it comes to 'working out', I fear no man.

Unless, of course, it is Devil, and he is in his 'Get You Some' mode.

One of these days, I just know it, he will take off running, and will not stop until I fall over, or puke.


Gotta get going. Duty calls, and I most oblige.

[Dorian Gray]

Not bleeding money to some gym owner: Yet another reason I got my own gear. :up: Enjoy the new setup, Storm. And do work or we'll send you to live with Bamfer for a year.

jag

Took me awhile to realise that, then I saw a Marcy home gym advetised at the same gym and the rest is histroy. Enjoying the my own setup as well....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/dorian23/halter-32.gif

[Dorian Gray]

If I was into running, I'd prefer the outdoors as well.


jag

Same, but I did buy a tread mill to subsitute the outdoors on a rainy day....but it's boring as hell.

[Colossal Spoons]

Woooo, numbers going up steadily still. :up:

[AndThePickles]

I'm friggin pooped. Work: done! Good cardio and abs session tonight.

[mrvlknight21]

Conditioning day-
ran 2.2 miles and finished with 5 sets of 10 burpees.
heart almost exploded.
It would have been what the Spartans would call a "beautiful death" :cwink:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Not bleeding money to some gym owner: Yet another reason I got my own gear. :up: Enjoy the new setup, Storm. And do work or we'll send you to live with Bamfer for a year.

jag


I pay $50 a year for my 24 hour gym membership. :up:

[Golgo-13]

Question guys:

So i did my leg routine yesterday as supersets. I was feeling the 'burn' and all that good stuff during, and right after the workout, but today i'm not sore..at all. :huh:

Does this mean that i haven't made significant tears, to the muscles themselves, to promote growth?

[jaguarr]

Conditioning day-
ran 2.2 miles and finished with 5 sets of 10 burpees.
heart almost exploded.
It would have been what the Spartans would call a "beautiful death" :cwink:

Wonderful! I didn't do a damn thing today. It was GLORIOUS! :up:

I pay $50 a year for my 24 hour gym membership. :up:

I've gotten asked not to do heavy deadlifts in three different 24-Hour gyms and counting. They didn't want me to dent the floor. That was made of concrete. And had heavy pads over it. :dry:

Question guys:

So i did my leg routine yesterday as supersets. I was feeling the 'burn' and all that good stuff during, and right after the workout, but today i'm not sore..at all. :huh:

Does this mean that i haven't made significant tears, to the muscles themselves, to promote growth?

DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is not a prerequisite for realizing growth. If you're getting good work in and feeling it during the workout, that's the primary thing you should be using to judge whether you did enough to promote growth or not. Being sore the next day really isn't a requirement.

jag

[CyberFaust]

Hello jag, spoons, i'm back and i'm swimming.
Lost the belly :)

[Golgo-13]

DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is not a prerequisite for realizing growth. If you're getting good work in and feeling it during the workout, that's the primary thing you should be using to judge whether you did enough to promote growth or not. Being sore the next day really isn't a requirement.

jag

:up:

Good to hear.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hello jag, spoons, i'm back and i'm swimming.
Lost the belly :)

Great news!

[Savage]

Man, nothing gets ya pumped up for a midnight workout more than Conan: The Barbarian. :yay: Arnold was friggin' huge.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, he is pretty friggin big

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Man, nothing gets ya pumped up for a midnight workout more than Conan: The Barbarian. :yay: Arnold was friggin' huge.

That or Pumping Iron :up: :D

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Wonderful! I didn't do a damn thing today. It was GLORIOUS! :up:



I've gotten asked not to do heavy deadlifts in three different 24-Hour gyms and counting. They didn't want me to dent the floor. That was made of concrete. And had heavy pads over it. :dry:



DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness) is not a prerequisite for realizing growth. If you're getting good work in and feeling it during the workout, that's the primary thing you should be using to judge whether you did enough to promote growth or not. Being sore the next day really isn't a requirement.

jag

1) Yeah I know what you mean, I'm not allowed to do cleans or snatches there and I really want to but I mean I pay $50 a year so how can I complain? When I get the room to set up my own rigs I will but until then can't beat $4 a month. :D

2) I thought that you once you workout enough you actually no longer get sore the day after a work out as long as it is somewhat within the range of your typical routine?

[mrvlknight21]

BAH-that is a surprisingly good price for a gym membership. If I had a deal like that, I might even take it (even if I rarely went). So many gyms now have outlawed Olympic lifts and even deadlifting over a certain weight. Its pretty crazy, really. Many of them try to cater to soccer moms and the like, who have money and will go to a gym for spinning classes or whatever and never really set foot in the free weight area. I guess they figure that thats where the money is, because folks like that will always pay, whether they are going or not and whether they are getting results or not. So they want those people to feel comfortable.

Speaking of that-some gyms have outlawed grunting and even PUT IN ALARMS to go off if the noise level gets too high. (Im serious).
Here is the story:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=2665478&page=1

[mrvlknight21]

For many reasons, I am glad to have my own stuff to work out with, at my own leisure, with my own music, with my own shower and protein shake just a few feet away!

Do you know there are gyms that have even banned people from bringing gallon jugs of water or head coverings (hats, bandanas)? Crazy!

By the way, I just got a big log to use for working out, I will have to post some pics later.

[jaguarr]

2) I thought that you once you workout enough you actually no longer get sore the day after a work out as long as it is somewhat within the range of your typical routine?

Not necessarily. I get DOMS on a regular basis, but I'm constantly pushing myself to my limits in my workouts and changing things up to keep them fresh. I still get good growth without DOMS, but I seem to get much better strength and size gains when I am seeing DOMS. But that's me as an individual. I know a couple of monster-sized dudes who claim they never get sore no matter how hard they push it (and they aren't slackers in the gym as I've lifted with them). Everyone is different, but DOMS really isn't a prerequisite for growth or progress. There's even a giant debate over what causes DOMS. Some people still think it's lactic acid build-up, others think it's something else entirely. The best advice I have is don't worry about it. Do work. Stick to your diet. Drink lots of water. Do your stretching. STFU. :D

For many reasons, I am glad to have my own stuff to work out with, at my own leisure, with my own music, with my own shower and protein shake just a few feet away!

Do you know there are gyms that have even banned people from bringing gallon jugs of water or head coverings (hats, bandanas)? Crazy!

By the way, I just got a big log to use for working out, I will have to post some pics later.

You are amassing an awesome little collection of toys, Devil. I'm jealous. :up:

Chest & Tri's for me later today, before the big game starts.

jag

[CyberFaust]

Great news!
THank you, and i'm starting again after my exams in a week.

[jaguarr]

Do work, CyberFaust! :up:

jag

[punishermax]

Super Bowl Sunday........the day where I eat more **** than Thanksgiving and Christmas put together......brats and beer baby....brats and beer...what a day. Back to reality tomorrow though.

[jaguarr]

Brutal chest/tri's workout today. Now to go get a shower, head over to my folks to watch the game and have a few PWO Guinness'. :D

jag

[Golgo-13]

Go NYG!

Got a little Superbowl party thing going on at my place; having a debate:

When's the best time to weight yourself to get your most accurate weight? I say it's first thing in the morning. When you weight yourself during the day, there's other factors, like if you've just eaten, or water weight from drinking throughout the day. I say the human body's most accurate weight, is first thing in the morning, as i know personally, i'm a little lighter in the morning than if i weight myself during the day...

so......

[The Joker_1000]

Man, nothing gets ya pumped up for a midnight workout more than Conan: The Barbarian. :yay: Arnold was friggin' huge.


Arnold is actually the reason I got even more interested in being in better shape. I have recent magazines showing his training techniques and methods so I've learned a lot over the last year.

[mrvlknight21]

Go NYG!

Got a little Superbowl party thing going on at my place; having a debate:

When's the best time to weight yourself to get your most accurate weight? I say it's first thing in the morning. When you weight yourself during the day, there's other factors, like if you've just eaten, or water weight from drinking throughout the day. I say the human body's most accurate weight, is first thing in the morning, as i know personally, i'm a little lighter in the morning than if i weight myself during the day...

so......


I have heard from MANY people that first thing in the morning is the best/most accurate way as well. As you mentioned, there isnt all the food you ate all day added to it.
I checked around on the internet and found no true expert answers, but almost every commoners' answer was the same as your and mine.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I have heard from MANY people that first thing in the morning is the best/most accurate way as well. As you mentioned, there isnt all the food you ate all day added to it.
I checked around on the internet and found no true expert answers, but almost every commoners' answer was the same as your and mine.


I agree Mk, I've heard the same thing for years.

[Havok83]

BAH-that is a surprisingly good price for a gym membership. If I had a deal like that, I might even take it (even if I rarely went). So many gyms now have outlawed Olympic lifts and even deadlifting over a certain weight. Its pretty crazy, really. Many of them try to cater to soccer moms and the like, who have money and will go to a gym for spinning classes or whatever and never really set foot in the free weight area. I guess they figure that thats where the money is, because folks like that will always pay, whether they are going or not and whether they are getting results or not. So they want those people to feel comfortable.

I used to pay $60 a month for my gym memberhsip but then a new gym opened up in my area. Not only was it closer to my house, but it was only $10. Needless to say, as soon as my contract was done witht eh first one, I left to join the second

[Super Kal]

is it normal to work your ass off for 2 weeks straight and not lose any weight?

[Havok83]

Anybody here ever run a marathon? I was planning on running my first one in May but then injured my knee about a month ago. Now Im taking it slow and hoping to at least do a half marathon but Im not sure if I can bc this damn knee is killing my training

[Havok83]

is it normal to work your ass off for 2 weeks straight and not lose any weight?
It depends on what your eating and what you are doing and how much of it you are doing. Did you work out every day for 2 weeks? You should take some days off bc working that much non-stop isnt good. Your body needs to rest

[Super Kal]

every day except on sundays... and I try to keep everything under an hour and stay on a 2000 calorie diet which includes stuff like grilled chicken, fish, vegetables, and maybe a little bit of ham and cheese on whole wheat

[Dorian Gray]

Missed yesterday so I made up for that today on my off day....I hate being off schedule. I'm concerned I may over did it this time...I usually have intense workouts to begin with. Though, I'm still a bit shakey all over hours after the workout....unless that means work done.

...and could have been that I didn't get a chance to eat enough today.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

It depends on what your eating and what you are doing and how much of it you are doing. Did you work out every day for 2 weeks? You should take some days off bc working that much non-stop isnt good. Your body needs to rest


Well that depends onthe individual and how hard your workout routine is.

Everyone's body needs to rest though, except for maybe that super baby. :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm so f***ing pissed off today, my workout is probably going to be pretty intense.

[Colossal Spoons]

^or dangerous. Anger often leads to ****ty form. Be careful, you can do it! :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Anybody here ever run a marathon? I was planning on running my first one in May but then injured my knee about a month ago. Now Im taking it slow and hoping to at least do a half marathon but Im not sure if I can bc this damn knee is killing my training

Look who it is :p

I've nowhere near enough endurance right now for a marathon. Good luck with any marathons you do in the future :up: