The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[ShadowBoxing]

Controlled rage. I've learn that lesson well. The lesson I haven't learned is how not to break sh** in my home when I get mad.

[Super Kal]

so should i just take a break today, or continue with what i usually do?

[ShadowBoxing]

so should i just take a break today, or continue with what i usually do?
This seems like a reiteration of something I may have missed, so if there is more to this please let me know.

As for days off. Taking a day off once in a while is not going to kill you, however, I don't take days off. I haven't taken a day off in a long time, aside from rest days, but those are in a way part of my workout routine. As long as you aren't working out everyday and are scheduling your rest around your workouts properly you shouldn't need to take an impromptu off day.

[jaguarr]

This seems like a reiteration of something I may have missed, so if there is more to this please let me know.

As for days off. Taking a day off once in a while is not going to kill you, however, I don't take days off. I haven't taken a day off in a long time, aside from rest days, but those are in a way part of my workout routine. As long as you aren't working out everyday and are scheduling your rest around your workouts properly you shouldn't need to take an impromptu off day.

I don't think he has a planned day off as part of his training regiment, which could be part of the problem.

jag

[Super Kal]

my rest days coincide with my exercises as well... I'm just a bit confused to why I wouldn't lose anything weight wise after 2 weeks of exercising.

[ShadowBoxing]

my rest days coincide with my exercises as well... I'm just a bit confused to why I wouldn't lose anything weight wise after 2 weeks of exercising.
Well, remember, if you're lifting weights and doing movements you're body isn't used to, you're going to gain muscle, especially in your first year of training. Scales can be deceiving. If you want an accurate representation of your results it's best to find someone who can check your bodyfat levels.

[jaguarr]

You don't lose weight at a steady rate, anyway. Your metabolism, rest, physical health, diet and a host of other factors come into play and are all factors that can vary your rate of weight loss. Two weeks isn't enough to alarm me, to be honest. If after a month you're still stalled out, then you've probably plateaued out and need to look at changing up what you're doing a bit to get things moving forward again.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Controlled rage. I've learn that lesson well. The lesson I haven't learned is how not to break sh** in my home when I get mad.

Just think about 10 mins into the future when you're looking down on your broken lamp or the pile of paper you swiped off your desk thinking "I wonder who's gonna have to fix this/clean this up?" :D

Works every time :up:

[jaguarr]

Shut up and let him break his ****, Spoons. Break yo' ****, Shadow! Break it good! Give in to your anger! :cmad:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, so you sit on SB's right shoulder and I'll take the left? Hahaha

[ShadowBoxing]

Just think about 10 mins into the future when you're looking down on your broken lamp or the pile of paper you swiped off your desk thinking "I wonder who's gonna have to fix this/clean this up?" :D

Works every time :up:
I cleaned it up this morning. That doesn't seem to work with me, it's certainly not a deterent. It's not that I'd ever hit a person, especially a woman, but I do hate losing, it makes me mad. Anything that makes me mad has to go somewhere. Sometimes I can carry it up inside until I hit the gym, other times though all I have is a door, a vase and a artist's wooden model, and that has to do for now.

[Super Kal]

You don't lose weight at a steady rate, anyway. Your metabolism, rest, physical health, diet and a host of other factors come into play and are all factors that can vary your rate of weight loss. Two weeks isn't enough to alarm me, to be honest. If after a month you're still stalled out, then you've probably plateaued out and need to look at changing up what you're doing a bit to get things moving forward again.

jag
thanks for the info :up:

[jaguarr]

With my method, we get to hear what of his own possessions he broke, which is infinitely more entertaining that not hearing about that. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

Well, remember, if you're lifting weights and doing movements you're body isn't used to, you're going to gain muscle, especially in your first year of training. Scales can be deceiving. If you want an accurate representation of your results it's best to find someone who can check your bodyfat levels.
I'll keep that in mind

[ShadowBoxing]

Shut up and let him break his ****, Spoons. Break yo' ****, Shadow! Break it good! Give in to your anger! :cmad:

jag
I hope one of these days I get really mad, and then someone next to me in line at the bank tries to rob it or something, then I break his face and get heralded as a hero. At least that'd be the best case scenario.

[Colossal Spoons]

I cleaned it up this morning. That doesn't seem to work with me, it's certainly not a deterent. It's not that I'd ever hit a person, especially a woman, but I do hate losing, it makes me mad. Anything that makes me mad has to go somewhere. Sometimes I can carry it up inside until I hit the gym, other times though all I have is a door, a vase and a artist's wooden model, and that has to do for now.

Wow, I'm glad I have about 2.5 competitive bones in my body :up:

[jaguarr]

I hope one of these days I get really mad, and then someone next to me in line at the bank tries to rob it or something, then I break his face and get heralded as a hero. At least that'd be the best case scenario.

Okay, GR87 Junior. :o

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Huuuuge

[ShadowBoxing]

Okay, GR87 Junior. :o

jag
Well, the worst case scenario is probably if I stuck at that Superbowl party last night and beat up the gay dude who kept saying "Bonzai" every time Brady got sacked. Then I'd be arrested for hate crimes because there is no way I could explain to a judge that laughing at your own joke which wasn't the first time you said it while I am in the room rooting for the other team just ticks me off.

[jaguarr]

Well, the worst case scenario is probably if I stuck at that Superbowl party last night and beat up the gay dude who kept saying "Bonzai" every time Brady got sacked. Then I'd be arrested for hate crimes because there is no way I could explain to a judge that laughing at your own joke which wasn't the first time you said it while I am in the room rooting for the other team just ticks me off.

Yeah, leaving the party was a good move. If I had to hear "Bonzai" over and over and over again like that it'd tick me off, too. :up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, leaving the party was a good move. :up:

jag
Yeah, thankfully I've taught myself to avoid people when I get angry without having to learn this the hard way. It's probably an accident waiting to happen. Stuff doesn't have feelings, neither do weights, so we're a natural fit.

[ShadowBoxing]

If I had to hear "Bonzai" over and over and over again like that it'd tick me off, too. :up:

jag
He's my High School Drama teacher, ironically enough. He was great in High School, though as I've gotten to know him since I've found out he's a bit of a blowhard who loves to hear himself speak.

[Colossal Spoons]

It's not the gay dude's fault. Maybe Tom should have worked on not getting sacked so often :o


:D

[jaguarr]

Well, the worst case scenario is probably if I stuck at that Superbowl party last night and beat up the gay dude who kept saying "Bonzai" every time Brady got sacked. Then I'd be arrested for hate crimes because there is no way I could explain to a judge that laughing at your own joke which wasn't the first time you said it while I am in the room rooting for the other team just ticks me off.

Yeah, leaving the party was a good move. If I had to hear "Bonzai" over and over and over again like that it'd tick me off, too. :up:

jag

Hahaha! :D

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Heh Heh :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I missed the subtlety of jag's 3 "overs" :D

[ShadowBoxing]

It's not the gay dude's fault. Maybe Tom should have worked on not getting sacked so often :o

I'm mad at them too, don't get it twisted. I don't think they were robbed or anything. What kills me is at least with Bodybuilding, when I feel like I'm at a loss, or when I lose of competition (and I'll be hard pressed to win my first, that's for damn sure) I have an outlet for the anger. I go in and train harder so the next time I can show up whomever needs to be shown up. With this stuff, or like, losing Poker games, what recourse do I have, nothin'. Toss of the coin.

[ShadowBoxing]

I believe the phrase goes "give me the power to change what I can change, give me the strength to deal with what I can't, and the wisdom to know the difference between the two".

[Colossal Spoons]

"Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

For all of us spiritual folk :D

[ShadowBoxing]

^Let's see, I'm pretty bad at the first one, good at the second one, horrible at the last one.

[Colossal Spoons]

Jesus'll be at your house in 2 days to help lol

[ShadowBoxing]

Jesus'll be at your house in 2 days to help lol
I'm probably going to think he's a hippie and slam the door in his face.

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, you'd know who it was. If the glowing or singing choir in the background didn't give him away; his chiseled abs would :D

[jaguarr]

Haha!

*doorbell*

Shadow: *opens door* What do you want?

Jesus: I'm here to help you with your patience and learning to only worry about the things you can change in your life and develop the strength to deal with the things you cannot!

Shadow: F**k off, hippie! :cmad: *slams door*


jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Haha!

*doorbell*

Shadow: *opens door* What do you want?

Jesus: I'm here to help you with your patience and learning to only worry about the things you can change in your life and develop the strength to deal with the things you cannot!

Shadow: F**k off, hippie! :cmad: *slams door*


jag

Shadow: Hello, police. Yeah, there is this Hippie outside my house. I've told him to go home, but he keeps walking through walls and sh**.

...Yes, he's not suppose to be on my property.

...Oh, so in South Carolina, we can shoot home invaders. Oh well, that's good to know.

*Shoots Jesus*

Satan: Thank you Shadow, you have ridded the world of my nemesis...

*Shoots Satan*

Shadow: Goddamnit, I don't need Mormons selling me pamphlets either.

Tom Cruise: Thank you, now I can rule the world! Hail Xenu

*Shoots Tom Cruise*

[Colossal Spoons]

Jesus would totally wait outside of SBs door until he was ready to talk too. Patience!

[jaguarr]

Yeah, every time he tried to leave his house Jesus would be all like "Are you ready to talk, my child?". LOL! :up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, every time he tried to leave his house Jesus would be all like "Are you ready to talk, my child?". LOL! :up:

jag
"For the last time Jesus, I am not voting for Ron Paul":cmad:

[ShadowBoxing]

Eventually, I'd start f***ing with Jesus by taking him to mega churches on Sundays and then we'd take a field trip to the Mormon temples.

Jesus: "Yeah, ummmm, I'm not a white guy...."

[jaguarr]

I'd totally corrupt Jesus by introducing him to some of my Dominatrix friends. :up:

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

I'd totally corrupt Jesus by introducing him to some of my Dominatrix friends. :up:

jag
I'd work out with Jesus. Though I bet he's not that strong or tenacious. I can totally see him using Jesus powers to cheat on his deadlifts.

[jaguarr]

I'd work out with Jesus. Though I bet he's not that strong or tenacious. I can totally see him using Jesus powers to cheat on his deadlifts.

First thing you'll have to work on him is his training diet. Fish, bread and wine ain't gonna get it done, son!

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd work out with Jesus. Though I bet he's not that strong or tenacious. I can totally see him using Jesus powers to cheat on his deadlifts.

Whaaaa? He carried that heavy cross for a bunch of miles before he finally quit.

[Colossal Spoons]

Off to lift in a few mins, I'm so not in the flippin mood though. Here's hoping I have a pumped up car ride over there :up::cmad:

[AndThePickles]

I'm not in the mood either :csad: Damn you, Monday.

[ShadowBoxing]

First thing you'll have to work on him is his training diet. Fish, bread and wine ain't gonna get it done, son!

jag
Damn straight. Although I wonder if he can turn my Tuna steaks into a whole lot more Tuna steaks, that would really take some pressure off the old wallet.

[ShadowBoxing]

I had a pretty good workout today. I'd say it was about at 90% -95%.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, great workout today as well :up:

[Scooter]

I had a pretty good workout today. I'd say it was about at 90% -95%.
60% of the time, that'll work every time...

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Damn straight. Although I wonder if he can turn my Tuna steaks into a whole lot more Tuna steaks, that would really take some pressure off the old wallet.

Don't worry SB I'm working on a duplicator machine :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

60% of the time, that'll work every time...
Not for me. I want all my workouts to be at 100%, no matter what. I understand that as I tweek this and that, and try new movements mixed in with old ones I am going to go through a readjustment period...but I try to avoid this as much as possible.

[mrvlknight21]

So my neighbor walked outside this morning and saw me push-pressing that big log I just got. He just turned and walked back in. Im not sure if it was because seeing me do this at 6am freaked him out or another theory I have, which is that he is involved in drugs (he avoids ANY contact with me whatsoever).
But it is funny trying to figure what he thought when he saw that this morning!

[The Joker_1000]

Not for me. I want all my workouts to be at 100%, no matter what. I understand that as I tweek this and that, and try new movements mixed in with old ones I am going to go through a readjustment period...but I try to avoid this as much as possible.


The same goes for me. Just like yesterday, I really wanted to work out but I couldn't find the energy. I went & eat a sandwhich & got the energy I needed. I feel awkward when I skip workouts, especially if I've already taken off days I didn't need to take off. Right now my plan is just to keep at it until I reach my goals & then I'll probably take a week or two off as far as weights go & then get back to it. It's all part of the plan.

[jaguarr]

So my neighbor walked outside this morning and saw me push-pressing that big log I just got. He just turned and walked back in. Im not sure if it was because seeing me do this at 6am freaked him out or another theory I have, which is that he is involved in drugs (he avoids ANY contact with me whatsoever).
But it is funny trying to figure what he thought when he saw that this morning!


:D :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, you do look like Mr.T. That's awesome.

[Colossal Spoons]

Can't wait to see the owner of my gym's face tomorrow :D

[jaguarr]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

LMAO! You HAVE to run around calling everyone "Fool" in a gruff voice, now. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

But of course :woot:

[MaskedManJRK]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

What you guys should do is make this the banner for this thread. Put on some words "I pity 'da foo' who don' exercise!" and then have "The Hype Fitness Thread" at the bottom. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

SB has way more banner worthy pics than my mohawk lol.

[jaguarr]

Spoons Barkley: "I am not a role model!"

:D

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, for reals

[mrvlknight21]

OMG!!!! I love the cut Spoons!!!!
Looks AWESOME!!!!


nice sneer too!!!

[mrvlknight21]

So.....how confident are you in your pullup/chinup ability?????

Why do I ask?

Click here for the answer....

http://www.break.com/index/crazy-kid-does-pull-ups-off-crane.html

[jaguarr]

So.....how confident are you in your pullup/chinup ability?????

Why do I ask?

Click here for the answer....

http://www.break.com/index/crazy-kid-does-pull-ups-off-crane.html

Stupid kid. He should have done those with some added weight on a Grizzly Belt to maximize the growth potential of the set.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

LOL!!!
Yeah, what a waste....

Unfortunately, he didnt use the most important muscle of all.....the brain.

[Badger]

Pfft, I'd have done it one handed whilst doing curls with my other arm. Then I would have let go, because obviously I'm to dumb to function in society.

[jaguarr]

^^^
:D

Man, my chest is STILL rocking some DOMS from my workout on Sunday. Unusual for me with that muscle group. Tonight I'll hit legs and shoulders and see if I can add more DOMS to the mix. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Very nice Jag. It is good to feel the results of work days later.
My triceps are still burning as well, I am like you, rarely do I have that in the chest area (but legs are always that way)!

In fact...what did you do differently to cause this? More weight? Less rest? More sets? Different angle?

[jaguarr]

Very nice Jag. It is good to feel the results of work days later.
My triceps are still burning as well, I am like you, rarely do I have that in the chest area (but legs are always that way)!

Yep. My legs pretty frequently get DOMS, but my chest and tri's not so much. Maybe a slight bit the day after, but almost never for a couple days after. I hit my tri's extra hard with a superset of heavy rope cable pushdowns followed immediately by some weighted dips with a tri focus on Sunday, so I was expecting some doms in my tri's but....nada. I've been doing a lot of progressive loading with my sets, lately, and I think that's what got me on the chest this week. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Good deal Jag.
I havent done anything today, was lazy this morning (as opposed to the log pressing yesterday morning).
I may still run tonight though.

[AndThePickles]

Can't wait to see the owner of my gym's face tomorrow :D

Ha, I'm surprised you're keeping the mohawk for that long lol.

[mrvlknight21]

Ha, I'm surprised you're keeping the mohawk for that long lol.

You know you love it!
Hell, I do....

You look sooooooo HOT Spoons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AndThePickles]

You know you love it!
Hell, I do....

You look sooooooo HOT Spoons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha I think he could pull it off better if he dressed differently. It isn't meant to be permanent though...he just did it for fun because he's shaving his head lol.

[mrvlknight21]

Haha I think he could pull it off better if he dressed differently. It isn't meant to be permanent though...he just did it for fun because he's shaving his head lol.

So, tell me...how does this sexy man dress....?

[AndThePickles]

So, tell me...how does this sexy man dress....?

Casual/athletic. Gym clothes or a t-shirt and jeans.

[mrvlknight21]

hmmm...sounds scrumptious....

[Colossal Spoons]

You know you love it!
Hell, I do....

You look sooooooo HOT Spoons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahaha, ty :D

[mrvlknight21]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/thispleasesGaryBusey.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Casual/athletic. Gym clothes or a t-shirt and jeans.

Psh

http://www.culturedrift.com/websites/culturedrift/Local%20images%20folder/031103_diddy1.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

You can take him Spoons!

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't take anybody right now. Stomach is killin me. So glad today was an off day :O

[MaskedManJRK]

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/thispleasesGaryBusey.jpg

The picture frightens me.

The eyes...the empty eyes...:csad:

[Dorian Gray]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

I wasn't sure but now I really see that you Pitty Da Fool!!

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm convinced that Gary Busey really died years ago. Something; not sure what, but something is living in his body :(

[AndThePickles]

Psh

http://www.culturedrift.com/websites/culturedrift/Local%20images%20folder/031103_diddy1.jpg

Haha, he does NOT dress casual/athletic. That man lives for fashion.

I'm convinced that Gary Busey really died years ago. Something; not sure what, but something is living in his body :(

Ew :csad:

[Golgo-13]

Took advantage of GNC's gold card Tuesday sale today, and got some Whey Protein. Gonna start drinking it inbetween meals, twice a day to add on a little mass.

I'm planning on competing in the PanAmerican Jiu Jitsu tornament in March, and i'd like to compete at 170lbs. I'm 160 currently.

Let the training begin.

*plays Rocky music- 'Getting stronger anthem'*

[jaguarr]

This thread got really, really weird while I was doing squats. :eek:

jag

[JStorm]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

"You ain't so bad!"

[jaguarr]

I like how JStorm's avvy matches Spoons' haircut. :o

jag

[JStorm]

I like how JStorm's avvy matches Spoons' haircut. :o

jag


"Balboa. . hey, Balboa; you want your woman to feel a real man?"

[Savage]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg

Walk into a thread and find this. lol. Nice. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I like how JStorm's avvy matches Spoons' haircut. :o

jag

Hahahaha, I should scalp somebody before I shave this off :o

[LegendaryCaleb]

I need some help before may
anyone know any great ab workouts besides sit ups(without using equipment)
im only 16 and my abs kinda show even when i dont workout(im skinny)
i want to look cut before may...and im willing to take 20 minutes out of my day to do intense ab workouts....

[jaguarr]

I need some help before may
anyone know any great ab workouts besides sit ups(without using equipment)
im only 16 and my abs kinda show even when i dont workout(im skinny)
i want to look cut before may...and im willing to take 20 minutes out of my day to do intense ab workouts....

Your diet, along with cardio, will dictate your bodyfat percentage and thus how "cut" you look. You can do all the situps you want and it won't make much of a difference if any in how "cut" you look.

jag

[user123456789]

Behold, Clubber Lang!

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9601/hawk006ed5.jpg
damn bro ur lips are f-in huge

[user123456789]

Your diet, along with cardio, will dictate your bodyfat percentage and thus how "cut" you look. You can do all the situps you want and it won't make much of a difference if any in how "cut" you look.

jag
and depends how much lean mass u have too otherwise all ethiopians would be ripped with 8 packs but they're not

[user123456789]

I need some help before may
anyone know any great ab workouts besides sit ups(without using equipment)
im only 16 and my abs kinda show even when i dont workout(im skinny)
i want to look cut before may...and im willing to take 20 minutes out of my day to do intense ab workouts....
you're 16

[jaguarr]

and depends how much lean mass u have too otherwise all ethiopians would be ripped with 8 packs but they're not

Shutup, fatty.

jag

[user123456789]

Shutup, fatty.

jag
run jaggy run!

[jaguarr]

run jaggy run!

Hell, no. That's too hard on my joints. Elliptical, baby! :up:

jag

[user123456789]

Hell, no. That's too hard on my joints. Elliptical, baby! :up:

jag
bro u should put some affiliate links in ur guide if u haven't already

easy way to make some extra cash

then give it to me cause im poor and i gave u the idea

:D

[jaguarr]

bro u should put some affiliate links in ur guide if u haven't already

easy way to make some extra cash

then give it to me cause im poor and i gave u the idea

:D

Nahh. I like to keep it pristine and beautiful and truly free, because I am not a whore I am a ****. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

damn bro ur lips are f-in huge

Oh yeah? Well your eyes are squinty! lol

[jaguarr]

RACE WARS!!!! :cmad:

LOL!

jag

[AndThePickles]

damn bro ur lips are f-in huge

And sexy and kissable as hell :heart: His lips are one of my favorite features.

[Colossal Spoons]

Gas prices are too high right now for a race war :o

ba-dum tsh

[AndThePickles]

RACE WARS!!!! :cmad:

LOL!

jag

Let the battle begin!!! I'm waiting for boyscout to transform into ninja-warrior mode.

[jaguarr]

We shoot ninjas. *BOOM!*

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

...in da hood

[jaguarr]

...in da hood

Wait. Are you suggesting that boyscouT has a clit? :huh:

jag

[AndThePickles]

Haha, oh noooo. SMH @ jag lol.

[Colossal Spoons]

:eek:

[jaguarr]

I :heart: anatomy.

jag

[jaguarr]

Cardio work DONE! :up:

jag

[Golgo-13]

That Whey Protein is really heavy on the stomach. It had me tossing and turning and farting all night last night, and all i used was two scoops of it. When i take it again, it won't be right before bed.

[jaguarr]

That Whey Protein is really heavy on the stomach. It had me tossing and turning and farting all night last night, and all i used was two scoops of it. When i take it again, it won't be right before bed.

Your body adapts to it over time and the gassiness gets less and less. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Awesome workout today. Squattin 260 for 5X5. I CANNOT wait until the 2 weeks of 3X3. WOOOOORRRKKK!!

[jaguarr]

Awesome workout today. Squattin 260 for 5X5. I CANNOT wait until the 2 weeks of 3X3. WOOOOORRRKKK!!


Are you going all the way down? :up:

jag

[AndThePickles]

That Whey Protein is really heavy on the stomach. It had me tossing and turning and farting all night last night, and all i used was two scoops of it. When i take it again, it won't be right before bed.

Hahaha, I'm sorry for your discomfort, but that made me laugh really really hard lol. My problem with protein shakes is they make me feel really uncomfortably full or sometimes nauseous.


I had a great leg and shoulder workout today...I almost fell down the stairs because my legs are DONE.

[Colossal Spoons]

Are you going all the way down? :up:

jag

Flippin right! Making sure they're ATG has slowed down my numerical progress, but the benefits of using my whole leg has been worth it :up:

[jaguarr]

Flippin right! Making sure they're ATG has slowed down my numerical progress, but the benefits of using my whole leg has been worth it :up:


Excellent. Try some rest/pause in your sets. That's a two-three second pause at the bottom of the squat movement before you come back up. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

That'll def eliminate any cheating due to bouncing/momentum :up:

[jaguarr]

That'll def eliminate any cheating due to bouncing/momentum :up:

Exactamundo, Potsy! :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been meaning to try that other thing you suggested when I mentioned having a problem locking my knees, where you invert your starting position by resting at the bottom as opposed to the top.

[jaguarr]

I've been meaning to try that other thing you suggested when I mentioned having a problem locking my knees, where you invert your starting position by resting at the bottom as opposed to the top.


Hmmmm....I don't remember that one. I've told people to start at the top of the movement of a pull-up and let themselves down slowly, but not recalling that one. Do you have a link to the post I wrote that in so I can reference it?

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn, it's lost in the sea of fitness and random banter in this thread. It's not too diff from the rest/pause; just not as long of a pause.

[jaguarr]

Damn, it's lost in the sea of fitness and random banter in this thread. It's not too diff from the rest/pause; just not as long of a pause.

Hmmm....well, you can do an abbreviated rest/pause. Just long enough to keep you from bouncing on your knees as hard. I may have mentioned that at some point.

jag

[jaguarr]

Nothing says "I conquered the deadlift!" like bloody knees! :up:

jag

[JStorm]

Body-weight workout! PhTW!

[Golgo-13]

Did pull ups, and chin ups today. :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Body-weight workout! PhTW!

Did the pyramid and all? How was it?

[JStorm]

Pyramid sucked - but got me some.

I added in some handstands, and - get this - used one of my full comic boxes for above the head press - and rows.

Just finished and drank me some mandrink.

[Dorian Gray]

In the morning
Flexibility Traning
Jogging
Sationary Bike - 20 minutes



Later On
Shadow Boxing - 5 minutes(1 minute rest)
Shadow KickBoxing - 5 minutes(1 minute rest)
Jump Rope - 5 minutes(all footwork)(1 minute rest)
Heavy Bag - 5 minutes(All punchges/combinations)(1 minute rest)
Heavy Bag- 5 minutes(all Kicks)(1 minute rest)
Light Bag- 5 minutes(1 minute rest)
Speed Bag - 5 minutes(1 minute rest)
Light Shadow Kickboxing 5 minutes(loosening up)

Forearm Work
Grip Machine(1 minute each hand)
Wrist Curls - 3x20
Reverse Wrist Curls - 3/20
Wrist Roller

10 Finger push ups (all fingers)



This is kind of getting old though, the interval training mainly ..I need to sit down and think up a new training routine.

[mrvlknight21]

Pyramid sucked - but got me some.

I added in some handstands, and - get this - used one of my full comic boxes for above the head press - and rows.

Just finished and drank me some mandrink.


Awesome. I am assuming you did everything....even the ab work????
Squats????

dont lie.

[ShadowBoxing]

Later On
Shadow Boxing - 5 minutes(1 minute rest)

You're going to be me for five minutes, with one minute rests. Prepare for the most awesome workout ever.

[Super Kal]

recently bought some 20 lb dumbbells... BTW, what exercises work for the inner thighs?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Riding.......a horse of course. :D :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Killer legs workout today. :up:

Switch from the hack squat to full ATG rack squats. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Shutup, fatty.

jag

HA :up: :D

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

****, what the hell?! Optimum Nutrion's prices have gone up?! Bull****!

[Dorian Gray]

You're going to be me for five minutes, with one minute rests. Prepare for the most awesome workout ever.

:bow:
I get one as it is...it could be better and more efficient though, it's kind of an old routine. I feel like I hit a plateau some where along the lines...

I have a Marcy Home Gym I use for a circuit routine.
Features: Bench press, frontal raise, lateral raise, leg extension, leg press, shoulder shrug, tricep kickback, tricep pushdown, upright row...(I don't do it in that order though thats just the features listed in the description in the manuel.)

Would it be a ok to add free weights back into the mix? while still keeping a circuit?

I can fix the listed routine above on my own...that's just my very old boxing interval routine with added kickboxing into it.

Edit: I could also use some advice on supplements.

So far I take just a one a day and a RTD Protien drink once a day

[mrvlknight21]

****, what the hell?! Optimum Nutrion's prices have gone up?! Bull****!

Where do you see that? How much increase?

[bullets]

If I run everyday for two months will i lose 20 pounds . That is exactly what i need to drop to become a sexy guy again.

[mrvlknight21]

If I run everyday for two months will i lose 20 pounds . That is exactly what i need to drop to become a sexy guy again.

No.

[bullets]

dammit ! It sounds like a good plan.

[Savage]

Well do you plan on going on a healthy diet as well?

[jaguarr]

Dorian said he's turning into a fatty in here, so I thought I'd come and help give him some advice:

:bow:

Would it be a ok to add free weights back into the mix? while still keeping a circuit?

Yes. In fact, I would strongly recommend it. :up:




Edit: I could also use some advice on supplements.

So far I take just a one a day and a RTD Protien drink once a day

Multi-vitamin? Excellent. Protein shake? Excellent. You can do more than one shake a day if you're having trouble getting up to the 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day minimum you should be aiming for. Only other thing I would add to that is a good fish oil supplement (capsules are the easiest). The health benefits of fish oil are just so numerous, and the stuff is so cheap, that it's insane to not use it. Other than that, just eat properly and make sure you're getting the right amount of calories spread throughout the day and you're good to go.

jag

[Dorian Gray]

Dorian said he's turning into a fatty in here, so I thought I'd come and help give him some advice:



Yes. In fact, I would strongly recommend it. :up:




Multi-vitamin? Excellent. Protein shake? Excellent. You can do more than one shake a day if you're having trouble getting up to the 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day minimum you should be aiming for. Only other thing I would add to that is a good fish oil supplement (capsules are the easiest). The health benefits of fish oil are just so numerous, and the stuff is so cheap, that it's insane to not use it. Other than that, just eat properly and make sure you're getting the right amount of calories spread throughout the day and you're good to go.

jag

Never thought of Fish oil, thanks....I'll pick up that and a protein powder with more protein.


Here what I eat most of the day, I try not to eat anything that isn't beneficial so I'm assuming that I get enough calorie intake druing the day. never count the calories.


Breakfast
Food: A bowl of cereal, comprised of whole grains, nuts, and dried fruits, plus 1% milk or egg whites
Beverage: Orange Juice and/or tea.


Snack
Juice


Lunch
Food: Meat, vegetables, and rice.
Beverage: Tea.


Snack
RTD Protein Drink


Dinner
Food: Spaghetti(no sauce but fat free low cholesterol butter and with a little salt) and salad, or rice, vegetables, and meat.....chicken, or fish.
Beverage: One glass of 1% milk and/or tea.

Sound good?. I just followed a meal plan I found in a book. Could use some refining for taste.

[jaguarr]

Looks mostly fine, Dorian. Make sure you're cooking those egg whites. The human body can't digest raw egg whites. For a good protein powder, I would recommend Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Gold Standard. Great price. Great product. Bodybuilding.com sells it for a very good price and they have excellent customer service. What will really make the difference with your diet is managing your caloric intake, precisely. It takes time and practice to know how much your typical daily diet packs, calorie wise, and how it spreads between your meals. Using a tool like fitday.com (which is free) to track your diet for a few months to get a sense of all that and how it relates to your goals is a great learning experience and I highly recommend it to anyone.

jag

[Dorian Gray]

I cook the egg whites thoroughly, I'm cautious about that

I actually have Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Gold Standard, I bought it a while ago and never opened it because I got hook on better tasting Vanilla Bean RTDs. :hehe:


I guess I need to invest in and adjustable bench and some heavier dumbells...I only have up to 35 but they are just collecting dust except the 35 which I use for wrist curls.

Thanks

[jaguarr]

Adjustable dumbbells with some extra plates are relatively inexpensive way to add some flexibility to your workouts because you can quickly and easily change your weights up and it doesn't take up a ton of space like a rack full of differently weighted DB's do. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Seeing Dorian mention his One A Day multis reminded me of something that used to frustrate the hell out of me when I was at GNC. A lot of people HATE HATE HATE the idea of taking 2 or 3 pills a day. I tell them to take it with food; assuming they eat 3x a day and they'd be all "No no, I don't wanna be poppin pills all day". Dumbest reason not to take a good multi, fish oil, etc :down:

[NickSox]

I've been hearin alot about fish oil and was wondering what all the benefits were of it. Ill prolly be picking some up. Does anyone take creatine?

[jaguarr]

I've been hearin alot about fish oil and was wondering what all the benefits were of it. Ill prolly be picking some up. Does anyone take creatine?


http://ezinearticles.com/?7-Fish-Oil...arch&id=415032

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Research studies show fish oil benefits are down right amazing.
And knowing this is the second most important thing you can do for your health. (We'll get to #1 in importance soon.)


Studies are published almost daily as the scientific community discovers more and more of the many extraordinary omega 3 fish oil benefits.
If you haven't already been swept up in the net yet, here are 7 proven omega 3 benefits you should know about.


1. Less Pain and Inflammation. Omega 3 fatty acids, particularly EPA, have a very positive effect on your inflammatory response. Through several mechanisms, they regulate your body's inflammation cycle, which prevents and relieves painful conditions like arthritis, prostatitis, cystitis and anything else ending in "itis."


2. Cardiovascular Health. Omega 3 fatty acids have also been proven to work wonders for your heart and the miles and miles of arteries and veins that make up your cardiovascular system. They help to lower cholesterol, tryglicerides, LDLs and blood pressure, while at the same time increasing good HDL cholesterol. This adds years to your life expectancy.


3. Protection from Stroke and Heart Attack. When plaque builds up on arterial walls and then breaks loose, it causes what's known as a thrombosis, which is a fancy way of saying clot. If a clot gets stuck in the brain, it causes a stroke and when it plugs an artery, it causes a heart attack. Research shows omega 3 fatty acids break up clots before they can cause any damage.


4. Better Brain Function and Higher Intelligence. Pregnant and nursing mothers can have a great impact on the intelligence and happiness of their babies by supplementing with fish oil. For adults, omega 3 improves memory, recall, reasoning and focus. You'll swear you're getting younger and smarter.


5. Less Depression and Psychosis. Making you smarter is not all omega 3 does for your brain. Psychiatry department researchers at the University of Sheffield, along with many other research studies, found that omega 3 fish oil supplements "alleviate" the symptoms of depression, bipolar and psychosis (Journal of Affective Disorder Vol. 48(2-3);149-55).


6. Lower Incidence of Childhood Disorders. Just to show how fish oil fatty acids leave nobody out, studies show that children (and adults) with ADD and ADHD experience a greatly improved quality of life. And those with dyslexia, dyspraxia and compulsive disorders have gotten a new lease on life thanks to omega 3 oils.


7. Reduction of Breast, Colon and Prostate Cancer. And finally, omega 3 fish oil has been shown to help prevent three of the most common forms of cancer – breast, colon and prostate. Science tells us that omega 3s accomplish this in three ways. They stop the alteration from a normal healthy cell to a cancerous mass, inhibiting unwanted cellular growth and causing apoptosis, or cellular death, of cancer cells.
So you can see why knowing these benefits is the second most important thing you can do for your health. Can you guess what number one is?
That's right! Now it's time to put your knowledge to work. Eat more cold water oily fish and start taking good quality pure omega 3 fish oil supplements (http://www.omega-3.us/fish-oil/fish-oil-supplements/) regularly.





I've had that linked up to in the stuff in my sig forever.

jag

[NickSox]

Thanks Jag. I hadnt read your whole sig just skimmed it so I must have missed it. It sounds like it could really help out my knees.

[jaguarr]

If you have bad knees, you might consider a glucosamine/msm supplement. I use it for my neck and back and it does make a big difference, especially combined with the fish oil. Be careful with glucosamine/msm supplements that include chondroitin, which is extracted from chicken cartilage most often. Chondroitin can seriously aggravate asthma or breathing issues in some people (it does for me). I use NOW Nutrition's vegetarian glucosamine/msm supplement, which is cheap and sold over on Bodybuilding.com. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I didn't even know they made glucosamine w/o chondroitin since the 2 are usually always paired together. Hmm, good to know :up:

[NickSox]

If you have bad knees, you might consider a glucosamine/msm supplement. I use it for my neck and back and it does make a big difference, especially combined with the fish oil. Be careful with glucosamine/msm supplements that include chondroitin, which is extracted from chicken cartilage most often. Chondroitin can seriously aggravate asthma or breathing issues in some people (it does for me). I use NOW Nutrition's vegetarian glucosamine/msm supplement, which is cheap and sold over on Bodybuilding.com. :up:


jag

Good to know! Does anyone take creatine? Is it worth it or is it better to just keep up on the protein intake?

[Colossal Spoons]

I think I'm the only current creatine taker in this thread. The other guys don't think it has much of an effect on them AND you can get a good dosage of it from a good steak.

I like it, but it's hardly my main supplement though. As in, if I ran out tomorrow; I wouldn't drive 4 hours in the snow to get more. BCAAs > creatine IMO :up: Protein is the most important, don't ever neglect that.

[mrvlknight21]

Good to know! Does anyone take creatine? Is it worth it or is it better to just keep up on the protein intake?

I used to and it really worked wonders for me. Depends on what you want to do though.

[jaguarr]

BCAA's are a great supplement, too, Spoons. Thanks for the reminder. :up: I use BCAA's (my favorite is Scivation XTend Watermelon Flavor) before, during and after my workouts. BCAA's will protect your muscle while you're lifting and during recovery. :up:

Creatine doesn't do a damn thing for me. But, I eat red meat two to three times a week and am most likely getting what my body needs or can use in the way of creatine from that.

And Spoons, this is the chondroitin-free glucosamine (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/glumsm.html) I use.

jag

[NickSox]

I think I'm the only current creatine taker in this thread. The other guys don't think it has much of an effect on them AND you can get a good dosage of it from a good steak.

I like it, but it's hardly my main supplement though. As in, if I ran out tomorrow; I wouldn't drive 4 hours in the snow to get more. BCAAs > creatine IMO :up: Protein is the most important, don't ever neglect that.

Thanks spoons and marvel. I think I might try a cycle of it and see how much I can gain. I hope it comes in pill form cause 1-2 workout drinks a day is enough!

[Colossal Spoons]

I was taking GNC's triflex; which is basically all 3(glu, chon, and MSM). The thing smelled like straight shrimp lol. Ugh, good thing I don't need it anymore as my right knee got better :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Thanks spoons and marvel. I think I might try a cycle of it and see how much I can gain. I hope it comes in pill form cause 1-2 workout drinks a day is enough!

It does come in pill form but powder is almost always better as it digests faster. You'll gain weight but don't think it'll all be muscle. Creatine will bloat you up a bit.

[jaguarr]

Seriously, if you want to put on muscle, creatine won't do the trick. NOTHING is more anabolic than food! :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Creatine doesn't do a damn thing for me. But, I eat red meat two to three times a week and am most likely getting what my body needs or can use in the way of creatine from that.

jag

Man, you know how long it's been since I had a good steak? Years! :(

[jaguarr]

Man, you know how long it's been since I had a good steak? Years! :(

What are you? A Hindu? :huh:

jag

[NickSox]

It does come in pill form but powder is almost always better as it digests faster. You'll gain weight but don't think it'll all be muscle. Creatine will bloat you up a bit.

Yea I hear that. I'm 6'3 and just hit 205 which is a high for me! I dont want to get all bloated now that I'm making great progress. Ah I'll prolly still give it a try.

[Colossal Spoons]

What are you? A Hindu? :huh:

jag

No lol. When I go out to eat; I usually always head straight for the chicken or burgers. When it gets warmer, I'm going to grill myself a nice medium-well steak. :up:

Yea I hear that. I'm 6'3 and just hit 205 which is a high for me! I dont want to get all bloated now that I'm making great progress. Ah I'll prolly still give it a try.

Yeah, you should at least try it.

[jaguarr]

So, the fitness supplement industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. They make a TON of products all supposedly designed to make you lean, ripped, hyoog, strong and muscular. They market the crap out of them and get famous bodybuilders and fitness models to be their official spokespeople. The reality of it is, it's all designed to separate people looking for that "magic pill or powder" that will give them the results they want from their money. There are a handful of things on the market that are worth a damn at all, and a lot of this stuff that's being sold today can muck with your hormonal profiles and affect or even cause other health issues to some of the people that use them (particularly respiratory, blood pressure and cholesterol problems). It pays to do your research, understand what's in this stuff and how it can possibly affect you given your health history. Most of it does not work as promised. The only thing that WILL make you bigger and stronger without a doubt if used properly as far as supplementation goes are anabolic steroids. And even then, they are still not a magic way to get muscles. The bottom line is:

THERE IS NO SHORTCUT OR SUBSTITUTE FOR HARD WORK, HEAVY LIFTING, CONSISTENT CARDIO AND PROPER DIET. PERIOD.

You want it? Work for it.

jag

[NickSox]

So, the fitness supplement industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. They make a TON of products all supposedly designed to make you lean, ripped, hyoog, strong and muscular. They market the crap out of them and get famous bodybuilders and fitness models to be their official spokespeople. The reality of it is, it's all designed to separate people looking for that "magic pill or powder" that will give them the results they want from their money. There are a handful of things on the market that are worth a damn at all, and a lot of this stuff that's being sold today can muck with your hormonal profiles and affect or even cause other health issues to some of the people that use them (particularly respiratory, blood pressure and cholesterol problems). It pays to do your research, understand what's in this stuff and how it can possibly affect you given your health history. Most of it does not work as promised. The only thing that WILL make you bigger and stronger without a doubt if used properly as far as supplementation goes are anabolic steroids. And even then, they are still not a magic way to get muscles. The bottom line is:

THERE IS NO SHORTCUT OR SUBSTITUTE FOR HARD WORK, HEAVY LIFTING, CONSISTENT CARDIO AND PROPER DIET. PERIOD.

You want it? Work for it.

jag

Real good point for sure. I've only taken protein and have just recently thought about creatine. Cant see myself taking anymore than that.

[mrvlknight21]

Thanks spoons and marvel. I think I might try a cycle of it and see how much I can gain. I hope it comes in pill form cause 1-2 workout drinks a day is enough!


The powder is better imo.
Keep in mind that it is only a little bit, not like a whole protein shake. I used to just add it to my shake to keep it simple.

[mrvlknight21]

I was in Wal-mart tonight and saw this overweight kid (probably like 15 yrs old) carrying a "perfect pushup" to the register for purchase. He was enthralled, reading the box like he was hypnotized. I could see in his eyes that he thought he would look like the model on the box in 4 weeks or less. He found the magic bullet to the perfect body!!
I wanted to pull him aside and make him do some burpees....
I just hung my head thinking..."another sucker."

In case you didnt notice, I hate gimmicks, especially if they promise BS results.

[jaguarr]

There are nearly as many gimmick workout apparatuses as their are gimmick supplements, Devil. Good point. :up:

jag

[The Joker_1000]

I was in Wal-mart tonight and saw this overweight kid (probably like 15 yrs old) carrying a "perfect pushup" to the register for purchase. He was enthralled, reading the box like he was hypnotized. I could see in his eyes that he thought he would look like the model on the box in 4 weeks or less. He found the magic bullet to the perfect body!!
I wanted to pull him aside and make him do some burpees....
I just hung my head thinking..."another sucker."

In case you didnt notice, I hate gimmicks, especially if they promise BS results.


That's why I've never really tried to buy one of those machines. I'll probably get a Bowflex one day but that's it.

They only promise people b.s results so they can make money off of suckers like that kid.

[The Joker_1000]

I just got done working out. It wasn't intense because my arms are really sore from yesterday because my ass**** of a teacher made me do push-ups. Worst part of it is that he isn't even a gym teacher.

[knowsbleed]

Sore from pushups? How many did you do?

[Savage]

Alright, I must've done something wrong because I'm 180 lbs now (used to be 190). :csad: I've gotta hit the harder weights. I've been trying to keep things balanced by pretty much living on fruits and chicken breasts with the occasional oatmeal or cheerios for breakfast. I really hope that this is all fat and water weight lost because I can't take losing muscle. (I liked being 190 but I wanted the fat percentage to go down).

[The Joker_1000]

Sore from pushups? How many did you do?


Me & my friend had to do 400 but of course we didn't exactly do 400. Do you know how to do those quick push-ups where you don't lift all the way off of the ground but you're still doing push-ups? That's what we did instead of doing the push-ups where you lift all the way off the ground. At the most we probably just did over a 100 but we didn't do 400, especially since the teacher left a little after we started doing them.

[The Joker_1000]

Alright, I must've done something wrong because I'm 180 lbs now (used to be 190). :csad: I've gotta hit the harder weights. I've been trying to keep things balanced by pretty much living on fruits and chicken breasts with the occasional oatmeal or cheerios for breakfast. I really hope that this is all fat and water weight lost because I can't take losing muscle. (I liked being 190 but I wanted the fat percentage to go down).

Wow, that's the first time I've ever seen you use a sad smilie in a post, this must be really depressing for you. Try doing what I do sometimes, eat some junk food for a day or two so when you work out you're turning the fat you gained into muscle. I've been eating junk food nearly all my life & I still do & manage to work out & look great. I'm 5'7 & about 160 lbs. Some people may think I'm chubby from looking at the stats but when I'm exercising frequently, my body looks fantastic. So all you've got to do is be consistent & you'll reach your goals. As chubby as I used to be, I would've never thought I could've been in better shape. Be cool, man, it'll all be alright, bro. :word:

[Savage]

Alright man. Thanks for the positive words. :yay: Hey Jag, on your plan how long do you think it would take to gain 10 lbs of muscle?

[jaguarr]

Alright, I must've done something wrong because I'm 180 lbs now (used to be 190). :csad: I've gotta hit the harder weights. I've been trying to keep things balanced by pretty much living on fruits and chicken breasts with the occasional oatmeal or cheerios for breakfast. I really hope that this is all fat and water weight lost because I can't take losing muscle. (I liked being 190 but I wanted the fat percentage to go down).

Alright man. Thanks for the positive words. :yay: Hey Jag, on your plan how long do you think it would take to gain 10 lbs of muscle?

Gains ebb and flow, dude. Usually it's connected to inconsistencies in the diet, but it can also come from other factors like illness or health issues, stress, lack of sleep and other things. If you are not tracking your diet in a tool like fitday.com, then it's probably time to start. Most people are really surprised at how inconsistent they really are in getting the right caloric intake and ratios between protein, carbs and fats.

As for muscle gain rate using my particular split, it's going to depend on your diet being consistent and enough to support growth, getting the right amount of rest, your particular genetics, and how hard you push yourself when you're lifting. It's not impossible to gain a good 1-2 pounds of solid muscle per month, sometimes more. But keep in mind you'll also put on a bit of extra bodyfat in the process. Keeping up with your cardio will help keep the fat gain and retention down and keep your metabolism stoked up so you will have the appetite to eat all that food.

jag

[knowsbleed]

jag, for your cardio you pretty much stay elliptical and non impact type stuff? I wish I could just stay on that type of cardio. I really HATE running.

with a passion.

My friend hardly rests between sets, he says that is plenty cardio enough.

[jaguarr]

Tell your friend to read this, knowsbleed (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/phano62.htm).

As for cardio, yeah, I stay mostly low impact. Elliptical, bike riding, walking. About as high impact as I get is jump rope. Running is way to hard on my joints, especially as I get older.

jag

[knowsbleed]

Well, I'm required to run...so I have no choice. Though it probably helps keep me from getting ginormous since my diet is pretty much retarded.[/lacksselfconstraint]

[The Joker_1000]

For cardio I do a bunch of jumping jacks & I'll practice playing basketball during my workout. I can't help myself with junk food either.

[jaguarr]

Garbage in, garbage out.

jag

[The Joker_1000]

What?

[jaguarr]

If you eat garbage, your results will be garbage. Duh.

jag

[The Joker_1000]

My results have been fantastic, even if I eat junk food but I'll still take a few days off a week so that my results can be even better.

[jaguarr]

Alright, then. If you say so. :up:

jag

[The Joker_1000]

Dude, there's no need to try & be a smartass just because I said that I can still get good results even when eating junk food.

[jaguarr]

Glad that's working out for you.

jag

[Savage]

You'd get even better results if you stopped the junk though. I mean you may get excellent results but you could also be cutting yourself short. Not all of us have genetics on our side. I'm stuffing my face with healthy junk and managed to LOSE weight instead of gain. :oldrazz: Time to load up on the meat. I'm going red.

[The Joker_1000]

I do cut out junk for days or maybe even a week at times but even when I do that, I don't load up on healthy foods either. I just eat breakfast, lunch, & dinner & I'll work out during that period too.

[Savage]

Gains ebb and flow, dude. Usually it's connected to inconsistencies in the diet, but it can also come from other factors like illness or health issues, stress, lack of sleep and other things. If you are not tracking your diet in a tool like fitday.com, then it's probably time to start. Most people are really surprised at how inconsistent they really are in getting the right caloric intake and ratios between protein, carbs and fats.

As for muscle gain rate using my particular split, it's going to depend on your diet being consistent and enough to support growth, getting the right amount of rest, your particular genetics, and how hard you push yourself when you're lifting. It's not impossible to gain a good 1-2 pounds of solid muscle per month, sometimes more. But keep in mind you'll also put on a bit of extra bodyfat in the process. Keeping up with your cardio will help keep the fat gain and retention down and keep your metabolism stoked up so you will have the appetite to eat all that food.

jag

That's interesting but an issue just came up in my head. I mean with these movie stars and actors preparing for film (I know eyes are rolling already). These guys gain like 30 lbs of muscle in a matter of months in order to get ready for a role (guys like Edward Norton really surprise me for example) and not only that but they say they're working out every day of the week and for this many hours and I can't help but wonder if these guys are lying. I mean from what I've learned from this thread the key to gains is working out maybe 3 or 4 days at most and resting inbetween and if you're lucky you'll gain like a pound a month. Are these guys just roiding up or what?

[The Joker_1000]

I think some are lying but people like Christian Bale, Tobey Maguire, & Brandon Routh seem to have gotten their bodies the natural way.

[Savage]

Christian Bale is the scariest one of them all for me. I mean 100 lbs in what? 6 months? That is nothing short of inhuman. All I want is 10, 15 max. I wish I could train with that guy.:woot:

[The Joker_1000]

I'm sure they train the way they are supposed to, especially if it's in their contract. I'm just glad he's back to regular weight. :hoboj:

[jaguarr]

That's interesting but an issue just came up in my head. I mean with these movie stars and actors preparing for film (I know eyes are rolling already). These guys gain like 30 lbs of muscle in a matter of months in order to get ready for a role (guys like Edward Norton really surprise me for example) and not only that but they say they're working out every day of the week and for this many hours and I can't help but wonder if these guys are lying. I mean from what I've learned from this thread the key to gains is working out maybe 3 or 4 days at most and resting inbetween and if you're lucky you'll gain like a pound a month. Are these guys just roiding up or what?

Most of these guys are dropping bodyfat more than anything else. They're not really adding on a whole lot of muscle, to be honest. And you'll find a lot of exaggerating of numbers going on, too, along with a ton of disinformation about their workout routines and diets (the 300 Workout is a prime example of that). Those personal trainers usually want to protect their "secrets" because that's what makes them their money, so they put out a bunch of nonsense info that's not really what they have their clients doing. In Bale's case for Batman Begins, he was coming off of The Mechanic where he was down to like 109 pounds or something ridiculous like that. Just getting recompositioned to a normal bodyweight added at least 80 or 90 pounds to his frame, I am sure. The fact that he did it in such a short time and got his bodyfat down after what I'm sure was a crash course in dirty bulking (eating junk just to put on the weight) is what was remarkable.

Don't forget, movie stars get paid to work out, have a personal trainer customizing their diet and routine specifically to the goals that they have, and usually have a lot of time to properly rest and recover because that is their JOB. It's also incredibly hard on their bodies and not something sustainable. Most of these guys already work out to some degree, anyway, so it's not a giant leap for them to step it up and do what they need to do to prepare their physiques for a role. The average person, you're better off doing it the tried and true way; working hard and accumulating your results over time. :up:

jag

[Savage]

I am just full of questions today. What is wrong with dirty bulking exactly? I mean a part of me just figures "Hey, eat till I'm 200 and work from there. Drop the Subway and chow down on the the Burger King."

[mrvlknight21]

Most of these guys are dropping bodyfat more than anything else. They're not really adding on a whole lot of muscle, to be honest. And you'll find a lot of exaggerating of numbers going on, too, along with a ton of disinformation about their workout routines and diets (the 300 Workout is a prime example of that). Those personal trainers usually want to protect their "secrets" because that's what makes them their money, so they put out a bunch of nonsense info that's not really what they have their clients doing. In Bale's case for Batman Begins, he was coming off of The Mechanic where he was down to like 109 pounds or something ridiculous like that. Just getting recompositioned to a normal bodyweight added at least 80 or 90 pounds to his frame, I am sure. The fact that he did it in such a short time and got his bodyfat down after what I'm sure was a crash course in dirty bulking (eating junk just to put on the weight) is what was remarkable.

Don't forget, movie stars get paid to work out, have a personal trainer customizing their diet and routine specifically to the goals that they have, and usually have a lot of time to properly rest and recover because that is their JOB. It's also incredibly hard on their bodies and not something sustainable. Most of these guys already work out to some degree, anyway, so it's not a giant leap for them to step it up and do what they need to do to prepare their physiques for a role. The average person, you're better off doing it the tried and true way; working hard and accumulating your results over time. :up:

jag


EXACTLY!
Regarding Bale-When you are grossly underweight, to the point of being emaciated, it isnt hard to get back to your typical weight, just from eating. And yes, there is definitely some half truths and whole lies regarding actors' training regimens. What they do in the amount of time that they do it can be done....if it is your full time job and you have a trainer, chef and dietician with you 24/7. Work hard and results will come.

[mrvlknight21]

My results have been fantastic, even if I eat junk food but I'll still take a few days off a week so that my results can be even better.

Let me ask, how old are you?

[mrvlknight21]

Speaking again of gimmicks-the perfect pushup has now created the perfect pullup...:cmad:
http://store.perfectpushup.com/product.php?productid=39&cat=10&page=1

Looks like you have to blot that thing into your doorframe in several places. Oh and its only $90 too....you can just about get a power tower for that. You could get 3 of the verlast bars that I have that wont put holes in your door and have $15 left over for that!! :cmad:

Look around the site some more and you will see they have their own supplements too "perfect power 3x" :cmad:

[Super Kal]

okay, I need help... I've been stuck at the same weight for 3 weeks now, and I don't know what to do

[jaguarr]

I am just full of questions today. What is wrong with dirty bulking exactly? I mean a part of me just figures "Hey, eat till I'm 200 and work from there. Drop the Subway and chow down on the the Burger King."

There are a couple of issues that come with a dirty bulk. The first, and more short term one is that a dirty bulk also typically brings a lot more extra bodyfat with it than a clean bulk does, so you end up having to do a lot more cardio to dump the bodyfat. The second issue is more long term, but the kinds of foods that typically get eaten during a dirty bulk (burgers and other fast food, chips, candy and pastries, pizza, etc) all carry certain potential long-term health impacts with them, particularly when consumed in mass quantities for an extended period like a dirty bulk (or for your entire life like most people do). They can lead to things like high blood pressure, heart disease, high cholesterol and triglycerides, early onset diabetes, and a whole host of other problems most people don't think about until it's too late. You're far better off with a clean bulk. Seriously.

jag

[jaguarr]

Let me ask, how old are you?

I'm going to guess he's somewhere between 15 and 17 years old.

Speaking again of gimmicks-the perfect pushup has now created the perfect pullup...:cmad:
http://store.perfectpushup.com/product.php?productid=39&cat=10&page=1

Looks like you have to blot that thing into your doorframe in several places. Oh and its only $90 too....you can just about get a power tower for that. You could get 3 of the verlast bars that I have that wont put holes in your door and have $15 left over for that!! :cmad:

Look around the site some more and you will see they have their own supplements too "perfect power 3x" :cmad:

More fitness snake oil. :whatever:

okay, I need help... I've been stuck at the same weight for 3 weeks now, and I don't know what to do

Map out your current workout and diet routines, your current weight and height, what weight you started at and how long you've been doing your routine and what your goal is. Need to understand, in detail, what you have been doing here before we can give you suggestions on how to fix it.

jag

[Dorian Gray]

Question jag, those fat burners, would they actually help you if you did the hard work?

I don't need them nor want them I'm just curious.

[jaguarr]

Question jag, those fat burners, would they actually help you if you did the hard work?

I don't need them nor want them I'm just curious.

Some of them do, yeah. A lot of them bring health issues to the table like respiratory interference, hormonal imbalance, kidney and liver issues, and other things. Green Tea caps are a pretty effective fat burner and they even have some other health benefits. Stay away from sesame oil (Sesamin is one such product) as it brings hormonal imbalance issues among other things. Most of the crap they advertise on TV is stuff I would stay away from. I know a lot of bodybuilders use a supplement called Lipo 6 for fat burning when they're prepping for a show. But most people don't need this kind of supplement because they aren't training at that level and really just need to clean up their diet and do more cardio. These fat burners also rev up your metabolism, sometimes to a dangerous pace or one that exhausts it, so the moment you come off the stuff you put the weight right back on and then some. My honest opinion? Unless you're training for a show, do more cardio and fix your diet.

jag

[Super Kal]

would switching days on when I do my exercise help?

[jaguarr]

would switching days on when I do my exercise help?

Map out your current workout and diet routines, your current weight and height, what weight you started at and how long you've been doing your routine and what your goal is. Need to understand, in detail, what you have been doing here before we can give you suggestions on how to fix it.

jag

[Super Kal]

dude, just saying that doesn't help me at all.... I've done that, and all it tells me is that I go by a 2000 calorie diet and work out 60 minutes a day and rest on Sundays.

that's it.

[jaguarr]

Can't help you until I know what you've been doing with your workouts and your diet. If you can't detail it out for me, then you can't detail it out for yourself and that's something you need to be able to do, in all honesty.

jag

[Super Kal]

Can't help you until I know what you've been doing with your workouts and your diet. If you can't detail it out for me, then you can't detail it out for yourself and that's something you need to be able to do, in all honesty.

jagI'll do that, but not in public.

[jaguarr]

I'll do that, but not in public.

You're welcome to PM. I honestly can't figure out how to help you fix your problem if I don't know all the things I just asked you about; diet (what you eat, when you eat it, how much you eat, what your caloric ratios of protein/carbs/fats are) and your exercise (what exercises are you doing? How often? For how long? With how much intensity?), what your current and starting stats are and where you want to be and how long you've been at it with your current program.

jag

[AndThePickles]

Is it odd that after sleeping wrong and having pain in my lower back that doing deadlifts made it go away? :huh:

[jaguarr]

Is it odd that after sleeping wrong and having pain in my lower back that doing deadlifts made it go away? :huh:

Not really. Happens that way for me, sometimes. Doing deads works the kinks out of the muscles, sometimes.

Speaking of lifting, time for me to go get a nice chest/tri's workout in. :up:

jag

[terry78]

Is it odd that after sleeping wrong and having pain in my lower back that doing deadlifts made it go away? :huh:

If I was your trainer and you were paying me, I'd go with....no.

[Colossal Spoons]

I know a lot of bodybuilders use a supplement called Lipo 6 for fat burning

jag

Lipo 6X, I'm a big fan and highly recommend :up:

[jaguarr]

Hellacious chest/tri's workout today. Gonna feel it tomorrow. While I was doing my PWO cardio, happened to catch the new American Gladiators. What an annoying and stupid show! It's even dumber than the one that they had when I was a kid. I blame Hulk Hogan. He had everyone on that show calling each other "brother". :dry:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I like the new AG. But I guess if you hated the original, this wouldn't be your thing lol

[jaguarr]

American Gladiators was moderately entertaining to watch when I was in my first couple years of college, but even then it was walking the fine edge of stupidity. Now they've made the Gladiators even more over the top and comic book-like. They had some jackass on there named "Wolf" who would howl like a wolf and say things like "When I see red, I'm coming after you like you're Little Red Riding Hood" (the competitor was wearing a red singlet). I don't know how they can even say stuff like that with a straight face. I almost fell off my elliptical I was laughing at how stupid it sounded.

jag

[Dorian Gray]

Ahh! Sunday..my day off feels great everytime it rolls around.:word:
BTW jag I got that Fish Oil, Adjustable Bench and those Adjustable Dumbells....built a whole routine around cable and free weight work.:yay:

..any more supplements I should consider?

[Colossal Spoons]

American Gladiators was moderately entertaining to watch when I was in my first couple years of college, but even then it was walking the fine edge of stupidity. Now they've made the Gladiators even more over the top and comic book-like. They had some jackass on there named "Wolf" who would howl like a wolf and say things like "When I see red, I'm coming after you like you're Little Red Riding Hood" (the competitor was wearing a red singlet). I don't know how they can even say stuff like that with a straight face. I almost fell off my elliptical I was laughing at how stupid it sounded.

jag


Wolf is the best! He's legally insane, I'm convinced :o

Did you see Titan? That guy was made in a lab :up:

[jaguarr]

Ahh! Sunday..my day off feels great everytime it rolls around.:word:
BTW jag I got that Fish Oil, Adjustable Bench and those Adjustable Dumbells....built a whole routine around cable and free weight work.:yay:

..any more supplements I should consider?

:up:

Maybe consider a BCAA supplement, like Spoons and I suggested. Other than that I think you're ready to go, dude.

Wolf is the best! He's legally insane, I'm convinced :o

Did you see Titan? That guy was made in a lab :o


I saw a few of them. The only one's whose names I remember were Wolf and Justice. Honestly, this was worse than watching fake wrestling (yeah, I know you like that stuff, too). Especially since the competitors were trying to talk smack and act super excited like they were creaming their shorts every moment they were in the presence of Hulk Hogan during their interviews, too. Just...so...fake... I'd rather watch Ninja Warrior.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

I saw a few of them. The only one's whose names I remember were Wolf and Justice. Honestly, this was worse than watching fake wrestling (yeah, I know you like that stuff, too). Especially since the competitors were trying to talk smack and act super excited like they were creaming their shorts every moment they were in the presence of Hulk Hogan during their interviews, too. Just...so...fake... I'd rather watch Ninja Warrior.

jag

Justice is 6'9 295lbs Ridiculous :eek:. He wanted to be a pro-wrestler haha.

AG 2008 is def the cheesiest show on TV; I don't think anybody could argue that it's to be taken seriously. It's a fun way to kill time on Mondays till wrestling comes on at 9 :o

First AG, next Knight Rider. I might as well be 10 again :cool:

[Colossal Spoons]

I tried to find a pic of Titan a.k.a Mike O'Hearn but they were all banana hammock OVERLOAD :(

[AndThePickles]

Justice is 6'9 295lbs Ridiculous :eek:. He wanted to be a pro-wrestler haha.

AG 2008 is def the cheesiest show on TV; I don't think anybody could argue that it's to be taken seriously. It's a fun way to kill time on Mondays till wrestling comes on at 9 :o

First AG, next Knight Rider. I might as well be 10 again :cool:

Well, you DO still watch Saturday morning cartoons, sometimes I think you wish you were still 10 :o :oldrazz:

[jaguarr]

Justice is 6'9 295lbs Ridiculous :eek:. He wanted to be a pro-wrestler haha.

AG 2008 is def the cheesiest show on TV; I don't think anybody could argue that it's to be taken seriously. It's a fun way to kill time on Mondays till wrestling comes on at 9 :o

First AG, next Knight Rider. I might as well be 10 again :cool:

Yeah, I definitely got the sense that all the gladiators were guys who couldn't quite cut it doing the pro-wrestling thing. I'd love to see some really humongous guy like Nathan Jones go on there and just literally run over the top of all those guys like they were ants, though. He's a failed pro-wrestler, too, so it should be legal. LOL! :D

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh Nathan "travel schedule is too much for me" Jones lol :whatever:

[jaguarr]

Oh Nathan "travel schedule is too much for me" Jones lol :whatever:

Is that why he didn't cut it? I just remember reading on some MMA site that he had made a run at the WWF and didn't make it. LOL! He's a big boy, though, gotta give him that.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, he got really homesick for Australia and didn't like going from city to city all the time. He's really into martial arts. He considers it an honor to get beat up by Jet Li on film 2x a year haha.

The guy is huge; maybe he was made in a lab too :o

[jaguarr]

He's been beat up by Tony Jaa, too. At least he picks the cream of the crop to kick his ass. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, yeah :D

[Super Kal]

thanks for the advice, jag :up:

[jaguarr]

thanks for the advice, jag :up:

You're welcome, dude. Give the suggestions I laid out a go for a couple of weeks and then check in and let me know how things are going. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

dinner wise, what else would be good besides chick or fish... lol, it does tend to get a bit old every once in a while

[jaguarr]

dinner wise, what else would be good besides chick or fish... lol, it does tend to get a bit old every once in a while

Turkey breast (be sure it's not the kind that's processed to hell and back, but a real cut of turkey), a good steak or some lean, white pork are all good meat options. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

thanks for the tip

[jaguarr]

thanks for the tip

And eat some damn vegetables! :up:

jag

[user123456789]

dinner wise, what else would be good besides chick or fish... lol, it does tend to get a bit old every once in a while
taco bell

[Super Kal]

lol, yeah, it's cheap, but that don't make it healthy

[user123456789]

lol, yeah, it's cheap, but that don't make it healthy
qdoba for first class food!

[Super Kal]

what's qdoba?

the only place I would ever consider getting "fast food" would be Subway

[user123456789]

what's qdoba?

the only place I would ever consider getting "fast food" would be Subway
a mexican joint

[jaguarr]

Fast food is crap, including Qdoba. Don't eat that ****. :down

jag

[user123456789]

Fast food is crap, including Qdoba. Don't eat that ****. :down

jag
more for me yeaa buddy

[jaguarr]

more for me yeaa buddy

I can hear your colon weeping.

jag