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user123456789
02-11-2008, 12:26 AM
I can hear your colon weeping.

jag
it says hello :D

Super Kal
02-11-2008, 11:29 AM
is there a way to use dumbbells and NOT get carpal tunnel?

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 11:42 AM
is there a way to use dumbbells and NOT get carpal tunnel?

What are you doing with them? :huh:

jag

Super Kal
02-11-2008, 11:45 AM
standing triceps extension... only got carpal in one hand though... and it was only temporary

is it all in how you hold it in your hand?

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 11:47 AM
I think you'll find that the fatigue will get less and less in time. You're using muscles that you normally don't after all. They need time to strengthen. ;)

jag

Super Kal
02-11-2008, 11:51 AM
well, I did kinda jump in how much weight i was lifting... first, it was a 5lb medicine ball, now it's a 20lb dumbbell.

was that too much of a jump?

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 11:57 AM
Only you can really judge if that was too much of a jump or not, but you're certainly giving yourself more resistance than you were working with before.

jag

Super Kal
02-11-2008, 12:03 PM
lmao, no wonder I was having trouble... I'm used to doing 40 reps at 5 lbs. and today I did 20 reps at 20 lbs


stupid me :p

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 02:14 PM
Hahaha:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d78/donmizega/1z330i0.jpg

Look at her quads! :drool:

terry78
02-11-2008, 02:16 PM
^ATP after a couple years of the Ironman regimen.

Superman79
02-11-2008, 02:17 PM
Hahaha:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d78/donmizega/1z330i0.jpg

Look at her quads! :drool:

She is HOT!

Of course, she probably uses that hotness to lure men into her bed and then crushes them with those muscular legs...yeah, I'd be ok with going out like that :D

:XenaOnatopp:

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 02:20 PM
Hahaha:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d78/donmizega/1z330i0.jpg

Look at her quads! :drool:

LOFL! :up:

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 02:26 PM
I was gonna take today off too, not anymore :o

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 03:40 PM
I'm working out right now. I knew that if I didn't do it today I'd slack off for a long ass time & that'd be really bad for me.

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 03:42 PM
What are you doing(exercise)?

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 03:46 PM
For cardio I'm practice my dribbling skills which actually helps, believe it or not. I just got done doing those short push-ups where you don't go all the way up, sit-ups, curls, & squats.

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 03:50 PM
You squatting just your bodyweight or are you using weights?

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 03:51 PM
No, I'm using weights.

Btw, I just wanted to ask you something: Okay, for starts I ate two bags of small chips this morning after I had just got to school which had 150 calories each which is 300 calories altogether. Would it take long to work that off or can be done with this workout?

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 03:55 PM
There are a few things wrong with your approach but I'll just cut to the chase. The amount of calories depends on the duration and intensity of the activity you're performing. There's no mathematical equation.

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 03:57 PM
Oh, okay. I've been working out for nearly a half & hour while simultaneously posting here.

If I do eat junk & work out, I shouldn't eat too much of it, right? Should I write a plan out for the week on what junk I should eat to control myself from eating too much?

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:07 PM
See, it sounds like you're pretty young. I'd be a hypocrite if I advised a 16 year old to quite eating junk food all together b/c I was stuffing my face full of everything fried or cheesy when I was that ago. You also sound like you have a bit of genetics on your side, as well at that puberty-metabolism. It'd still be nice to see you cut down on the junk a good deal. Something you skinny people never seem to realize is that you can still have clogged arteries as well as a hoard of other ailments that jag mentioned a few posts ago w/o looking fat.

What kind and how much junk food do you eat in a given week? Just out of curiousity.

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm not skinny, I actually used to be chubby so now the fat is becoming muscle & all that jazz. I don't stuff everything down my face, I'll resist eating a lot of junk now & I'll try to drink more water & less pop if I can help it. I don't want clogged arteries which is why I work out as much as I can. My muscles are hardening & what I really need to work on now are getting my abs to be rock solid.

Sometimes I'll eat chips, ice cream, & some other goodies such as cookies. Sometimes I'll go a whole day without eating junk food & I won't even notice until the next day.

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:23 PM
1. Fat doesn't "turn into" muscle. A lot of people think that so you're not alone.

2. Your "slimming down" is most likely a shedding of baby fat. Adolescence tends to do that. You wanna help your body out during this phase by eating as healthily as possible. Junk food is only going to make the process harder, longer, or moot.

3. A whole day w/o junk food is only something to be proud of if you're that 1000lb guy on Maury Povich lol. You've gotta get yourself to the point where you don't even crave the stuff anymore; and that's gonna take at least a year of commitment :up:

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Chips for breakfast? :huh: :down

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Chips for breakfast? :huh: :down

jag

Ha, I didn't even think about the timing.

I used to eat 1 cinnamon bun, 2 pop-tarts, and Lipton iced-tea EVERY MORNING throughout high school :down:

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 04:27 PM
Garbage in, garbage out.

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:29 PM
Garbage in, garbage out.

jag

I wouldn't have believed that for a second back then. I was full of testosterone and my metabolism was at super hero levels lol. How about some Burger King before lifting? Oh, I'd love to go back and chat w/ myself :(

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 04:31 PM
I didn't eat them for breakfast, smartass.

That was to jag, not you Spoons.

JStorm
02-11-2008, 04:33 PM
'Bout to run to the store to pick up some chicken for tonight.

Run.

Not drive.


After that, Devil has a workout for me, lined-up.

I need to get these weights he got with the quickness. Push-ups, everyday, sucks.

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 04:33 PM
1. Fat doesn't "turn into" muscle. A lot of people think that so you're not alone.

2. Your "slimming down" is most likely a shedding of baby fat. Adolescence tends to do that. You wanna help your body out during this phase by eating as healthily as possible. Junk food is only going to make the process harder, longer, or moot.

3. A whole day w/o junk food is only something to be proud of if you're that 1000lb guy on Maury Povich lol. You've gotta get yourself to the point where you don't even crave the stuff anymore; and that's gonna take at least a year of commitment :up:


I appreciate your advice but I don't think I'm going to totally give up junk food because I know people who eat the same stuff I do & are in fantastic shape but they are also a little more active than me. I'm not saying I'm just going to keep binging on it but I won't totally give it up.

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 04:33 PM
Okay, how's this: Chips for a post-breakfast snack? :huh: :down

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:34 PM
I didn't eat them for breakfast, smartass.

That was to jag, not you Spoons.

Jag's not fond of repeating himself lol. If your as young as we think you are, then the majority of the info you learn here is going to go in one ear and out the other. Not because you're a knucklehead, but because you won't see the "need" for it. Think about it. Who's gonna take nutrition/fitness advice more seriously; a 20 year old kid who can eat what he wants and not "look" fat or a 50 year old man with high blood pressure and a bum knee? :up:

I'm only 22 and I can tell you right now; if I had a time machine and went back 6 years, I would not get along w/ myself at all haha.

JStorm
02-11-2008, 04:35 PM
I ate an egg sandwich.


:up: or :down

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:36 PM
I need to get these weights he got with the quickness. Push-ups, everyday, sucks.


Yeah, you miss it don't you!? :D

JStorm
02-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Yeah, you miss it don't you!? :D

Like a black dude named SPOONS!!!!!!!

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 04:39 PM
Jag's not fond of repeating himself lol. If your as young as we think you are, then the majority of the info you learn here is going to go in one ear and out the other. Not because you're a knucklehead, but because you won't see the "need" for it. Think about it. Who's gonna take nutrition/fitness advice more seriously; a 20 year old kid who can eat what he wants and not "look" fat or a 50 year old man with high blood pressure and a bum knee? :up:

I'm only 22 and I can tell you right now; if I had a time machine and went back 6 years, I would not get along w/ myself at all haha.

I listen to a lot of the advice I get but I just hate jaguarr, the guy is an ass. If he were to just put me on ignore, it'd all be better. Anyway, I have gone a week without eating junk food a couple of times which really helped me out.

I have heard & seen guys with great bodies that have said they eat anything they want. Like Bobby Lashley (former WWE superstar).

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:40 PM
I appreciate your advice but I don't think I'm going to totally give up junk food because I know people who eat the same stuff I do & are in fantastic shape but they are also a little more active than me. I'm not saying I'm just going to keep binging on it but I won't totally give it up.

Haha, that's no surprise. I didn't even have to rub my magic 8-ball to know you'd come to that decision. Good luck dude, when the time comes for you to really get serious about your body(I'm talkin dropping $200 a month for supplements); you better do work! :up:

JStorm
02-11-2008, 04:42 PM
Jag an ass?


It is not personal; I can assure you of that. Anyone - ANYONE - who attempts to stay in shape, and succeeds, is just trying to better said persons who ask.

I have a friend who would speak to me the same way. Not because he doesn't like me - he just doesn't want me eating trash.

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:43 PM
I listen to a lot of the advice I get but I just hate jaguarr, the guy is an ass. If he were to just put me on ignore, it'd all be better. Anyway, I have gone a week without eating junk food a couple of times which really helped me out.

I have heard & seen guys with great bodies that have said they eat anything they want. Like Bobby Lashley (former WWE superstar).

Hahaha, jag is an ass isn't he!? Always with his silly "jag" at the end of his posts; which I can't help but include when I quote him or some reason :(:o

See, wrestlers and their ****ty advice. Where did you hear that about Bobby? Not that I don't believe you, but I'd like to see it so I can add it to my "reasons not to listen to pro-wrestlers about nutrition."

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 04:43 PM
I listen to a lot of the advice I get but I just hate jaguarr, the guy is an ass. If he were to just put me on ignore, it'd all be better. Anyway, I have gone a week without eating junk food a couple of times which really helped me out.

I have heard & seen guys with great bodies that have said they eat anything they want. Like Bobby Lashley (former WWE superstar).

You're posting while you're working out? Must be an intense workout. :up:

jag

terry78
02-11-2008, 04:46 PM
Don't you miss the anger and impetuousness of youth? :o

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 04:48 PM
Don't you miss the anger and impetuousness of youth? :o

Not one bit. :grin:

jag

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 04:48 PM
Hahaha, jag is an ass isn't he!? Always with his silly "jag" at the end of his posts; which I can't help but include when I quote him or some reason :(:o

See, wrestlers and their ****ty advice. Where did you hear that about Bobby? Not that I don't believe you, but I'd like to see it so I can add it to my "reasons not to listen to pro-wrestlers about nutrition."

He wasn't giving advice on nutrition, he was asked what he eats as a cheat & he said basically everything he eats is a cheat.

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 04:49 PM
Jag an ass?


It is not personal; I can assure you of that. Anyone - ANYONE - who attempts to stay in shape, and succeeds, is just trying to better said persons who ask.

I have a friend who would speak to me the same way. Not because he doesn't like me - he just doesn't want me eating trash.

Devil and I have a lot in common besides just being old.

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 04:55 PM
He wasn't giving advice on nutrition, he was asked what he eats as a cheat & he said basically everything he eats is a cheat.

Interesting. John Cena says the same crap.

Devil and I have a lot in common besides just being old.

jag

So your kid's getting carrots and tuna for lunch at school right? :D

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 04:57 PM
Well, it might be true. I think that by being so active it kind of doesn't matter what they eat.

JStorm
02-11-2008, 04:58 PM
My Ipod can't load fast eough.


I'm getting a zune, so I can zun.

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 05:00 PM
So your kid's getting carrots and tuna for lunch at school right? :D


Depends on if they're running a bulking cycle or not. :up:

Oh, and wrestlers are notorious for lying about their diets and workout regimens. They also usually neglect to include all the Vitamin S they're injecting, too.

jag

JStorm
02-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Vitamin S is for little peni. :O

JStorm
02-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Music loaded.


Wind sprint - 1 1/2.


Holy nachos, Batman.

user123456789
02-11-2008, 05:46 PM
I wouldn't have believed that for a second back then. I was full of testosterone and my metabolism was at super hero levels lol. How about some Burger King before lifting? Oh, I'd love to go back and chat w/ myself :(
i just had some BK

gonna go do back

peacee

user123456789
02-11-2008, 05:47 PM
I listen to a lot of the advice I get but I just hate jaguarr, the guy is an ass. If he were to just put me on ignore, it'd all be better. Anyway, I have gone a week without eating junk food a couple of times which really helped me out.

I have heard & seen guys with great bodies that have said they eat anything they want. Like Bobby Lashley (former WWE superstar).
i will train you for $50 a month

diet, training, coupons to BK included, the works

Dorian Gray
02-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Just feel like posting my routine today:cwink:

Finger Push Ups(all fingers, both hands) - 10
Flexibility

Skip Rope - 5 Minutes(1 minute rest) all footwork
Shadow Kick-Boxing - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest)
Shadow Boxing w/ 1lb weights- 3 minutes(1 minute rest)
Heavy Bag - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest) Individual Stikes and Combinations
Heavy bag - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest) Kicks
Speed Bag - 3 minutes(1 minute rest)
Makiwara Board - 3 Minutes(1 minute rest) Rolling Vertial Punches

rest

Punches with 1lbs weights
Jab
Cross
Hook
Uppercut
Combinations
Rolling Vertical Punches


Kicks
Hook kick
Side Kick
Front Kick
Roundhouse

Stepping -10 minutes(17 inch high step)


At least I didn't feel bored today like I have been. I added some older exercises like stepping that I used to use but discarded back into the routine....this subject to change on wedsnday and friday to keep from getting bored.

I also got rid of the early morning workouts on Monday, Wedsnday, and Friday to try and balance it out instead of trying to go over board.:csad:

mrvlknight21
02-11-2008, 06:41 PM
Devil and I have a lot in common besides just being old.

jag

:cwink: :cwink: :cwink:

...hey...who you calling old??? :csad:

mrvlknight21
02-11-2008, 06:44 PM
'Bout to run to the store to pick up some chicken for tonight.

Run.

Not drive.


After that, Devil has a workout for me, lined-up.

I need to get these weights he got with the quickness. Push-ups, everyday, sucks.

Try doing it for 16 weeks!
Cant wait to get you set up....12 days and counting.

JStorm
02-11-2008, 06:46 PM
Ran to Kroger and back.

Well ran 1/2 mile, sprinted 1/4 and walked in between.

Came home and did 4x20 pushups, comic presses, and rows, etc etc

GoogleMe94
02-11-2008, 07:02 PM
ok, heres a question i REALLY need help with.

i have been working out consistently now for about a month, i do a total upper body workout for about 30 minutes every other day. the thing is, the day after i workout, when im supposed to "rest" and let my body recooperate, i wake up in the morning and i dont feel any extreme weariness from my workout the day before. like i feel perfectly fine, no pain. i feel like i could probably work out again. my question is, if you feel this good, is it OK to sometimes work out the day after your workout? ive heard that everyone has different recovery times, and i know that recovery time is just as important to building muscle as lifting weights is. so, is it OK to workout the day after if your muscles dont feel soar?





and btw, eating BK and trying to gain muscle and get in shape will NOT help you. i know alot of ppl who try to work out but then they go for some BK or MD's later and i just have to go :whatever:. thats NOT the way to do it, sorry! i eat nothin but fruits, veggies and protien based foods like good lean meats and always make sure my meals are well portioned, a good balance of carbs, protien, and veggies. on sundays ussually i will allow myself to have a little sweet snack, but BK is like one of the worst things you can have. ever see super size me? ugh, i got the shivers watching that sh**!

JStorm
02-11-2008, 07:04 PM
You need to workout harder, longer, and possibly faster - more reps.

30 minutes wouldn't hurt an infant.

GoogleMe94
02-11-2008, 07:06 PM
well im just starting out, and by 30-40 minutes, i tend to feel like i've done all i can do. i lift heavier weights now, so maybe thats why. maybe one day i can do like an hour or more, but right now, i just kinda go from one workout move to another and just keep moving moving until i simply cant anymore.

JStorm
02-11-2008, 07:11 PM
well im just starting out, and by 30-40 minutes, i tend to feel like i've done all i can do. i lift heavier weights now, so maybe thats why. maybe one day i can do like an hour or more, but right now, i just kinda go from one workout move to another and just keep moving moving until i simply cant anymore.

Don't get me wrong - I am not stating a proper workout has to be an hour or above.

And to be honest, I don't feel too bad each and every morning, either.

Just add some weight - get in here and ask for workout ideas - and mix it up.

theShape
02-11-2008, 07:14 PM
well im just starting out, and by 30-40 minutes, i tend to feel like i've done all i can do. i lift heavier weights now, so maybe thats why. maybe one day i can do like an hour or more, but right now, i just kinda go from one workout move to another and just keep moving moving until i simply cant anymore.

If you're just starting out, you don't want to push yourself to the limit weight-wise. Start out with lighter weights that are still challenging to an extent, and more reps. Also, if you're doing a total upper body workout, that's a lot to cram in to 30-40 mins, so you're definitely missing out on a lot.

At this stage, you want to be sore the next day so you know that you're body is really getting worked out. I recommend you split up your upper body workout into different days. For example, Monday can be chest and triceps, Wednesday can be devoted to shoulders, and Friday can be back and biceps. You can swtich your days around if you want, or repeat a day. For instance, if you want more a chest workout, do your chest twice a week, but space the days out.

If you want to do legs, factor them in on the days you aren't doing your upper body.

The Joker_1000
02-11-2008, 07:49 PM
i will train you for $50 a month

diet, training, coupons to BK included, the works


No deal, we don't even live in the same city. :cwink:

I may eat some ice cream so I'm getting some extra exercise in right now.

Savage
02-11-2008, 08:33 PM
1. Fat doesn't "turn into" muscle. A lot of people think that so you're not alone.



Alright, gonna need a science lesson on this one. I know that fat doesn't turn into muscle. It turns into energy, right? Energy for muscle development and all that jazz. So if a guy is skinny as all hell, almost invisible levels of fat on his body (exaggerating here), is it possible to even gain muscle? Or is it a case of the more fat you have on you, the faster you're going to gain muscle (this is of course taking into account that both subjects, the fat guy and the skinny guy, are going at the same rate with the same weight for the same time). Does more fat necessarily equate to more muscle?

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 08:47 PM
Being sore the day after a workout does not necessarily mean you had a good workout and it's not a required element of knowing that you got a good workout.

jag

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 08:48 PM
Alright, gonna need a science lesson on this one. I know that fat doesn't turn into muscle. It turns into energy, right? Energy for muscle development and all that jazz. So if a guy is skinny as all hell, almost invisible levels of fat on his body (exaggerating here), is it possible to even gain muscle? Or is it a case of the more fat you have on you, the faster you're going to gain muscle (this is of course taking into account that both subjects, the fat guy and the skinny guy, are going at the same rate with the same weight for the same time). Does more fat necessarily equate to more muscle?

More fat does not equate more muscle. Diet and training equal more muscle. The skinny guy can put on muscle just as fast as the fat guy. The skinny guy also has the advantage of not having to drop bodyfat to get his muscle to show, where the fat guy will.

jag

JStorm
02-11-2008, 08:51 PM
Jag, I forgot to tell you the new girl is not INSANE - she's HAWT - and loves the gym.

LOVES IT.


Shower time.

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 08:54 PM
How new is the new girl? It can take some time for the crazy to shake out, youngblood.

jag

theShape
02-11-2008, 09:00 PM
Being sore the day after a workout does not necessarily mean you had a good workout and it's not a required element of knowing that you got a good workout.

jag

No, but it shows that you at least did some work the day before, especially early on when you are just beginning to work out. If this guy is working out 30 minutes at a time for 3 days a week and doesn't feel tired at all the day following a workout, I think he could work a little harder.

Savage
02-11-2008, 09:02 PM
More fat does not equate more muscle. Diet and training equal more muscle. The skinny guy can put on muscle just as fast as the fat guy. The skinny guy also has the advantage of not having to drop bodyfat to get his muscle to show, where the fat guy will.

jagAlright so what's with all the "I've gotta put on more weight so I can put on more muscle" I hear a lot of? Where does that weight come from if it's not in the form of fat? Do I even need to put on weight in order to gain muscle?

JStorm
02-11-2008, 09:04 PM
How new is the new girl? It can take some time for the crazy to shake out, youngblood.

jag

It's been two months. :O

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 09:05 PM
No, but it shows that you at least did some work the day before, especially early on when you are just beginning to work out. If this guy is working out 30 minutes at a time for 3 days a week and doesn't feel tired at all the day following a workout, I think he could work a little harder.

Oh, I'd agree that he needs to work a little harder. But DOMS is not a sign of a good workout or that you are building muscle. You are right, though, that he should probably at least feel a little bit of muscle fatigue the next day.

Alright so what's with all the "I've gotta put on more weight so I can put on more muscle" I hear a lot of? Where does that weight come from if it's not in the form of fat? Do I even need to put on weight in order to gain muscle?

Don't you think that putting on muscle would mean putting on more weight? Muscle does weigh something, you know. ;)

jag

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 09:06 PM
It's been two months. :O

You ain't out the the briar patch yet, then, Brer Rabbit.

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-11-2008, 09:07 PM
I wish I understood the science behind the fact that muscle helps burn fat due to an increase in metabolism.

Savage
02-11-2008, 09:09 PM
Don't you think that putting on muscle would mean putting on more weight? Muscle does weigh something, you know. ;)

jaghaha. Yeah, I know. For some reason I've just always interpreted to mean actually put on MORE weight so the person CAN gain muscle quicker or something. Alright. So me dropping 15 pounds in 2 weeks wasn't such a bad thing after all. :yay:

JStorm
02-11-2008, 09:10 PM
You ain't out the the briar patch yet, then, Brer Rabbit.

jag

I'll consider it.

jaguarr
02-11-2008, 10:07 PM
haha. Yeah, I know. For some reason I've just always interpreted to mean actually put on MORE weight so the person CAN gain muscle quicker or something. Alright. So me dropping 15 pounds in 2 weeks wasn't such a bad thing after all. :yay:

Maybe, maybe not. If you dumped muscle, then it's not great. If you dropped water weight, I wouldn't be too concerned unless you're not getting rehydrated. If you've been sick, then it's feasible to drop that much weight. I'll be honest, dropping 15 pounds in two weeks is a lot of weight to drop. If you've been doing a lot of extra cardio and not keeping your caloric intake up, that could do it. Just depends on why it happened. Keep an eye on it and if you keep dropping weight like that the next week or so, then get your ass to the doctor and get checked out.

jag

Savage
02-12-2008, 11:28 AM
Thanks. I'll definitely keep that in mind. Haven't been doing any cardio though. Just weights and calisthenics (push ups and stuff. Like I said, no cardio). I'd have cereal for breakfast (usually oatmeal, cheerios, or special k), and the rest of the day I would eat fruits like plums, peaches, and grapes. Yogurt too. I'd eat at least one of these every hour or so. Then for dinner I'd top it off with some chicken breasts. I mean a plate full of the stuff. And I know you guys aren't fans but every now and then I'd throw some chicken nuggets into the mix for lunch or something. Not the Mcdonalds one though. That stuff tastes like cardboard. I've been doing this for the past month since I decided to clean up my diet and drop the pizzas and burgers so I'm hoping it's just a result of my metabolism speeding up and water weight dropping down.

Which reminds me, heading out. Any good protein shakes out there? Don't think I'm getting enough (I can only make chicken breasts last so long. :oldrazz: ).

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 11:35 AM
^^^
You're not eating enough. No wonder you're losing weight. Time to get your diet in check, homeboy. Start tracking it on fitday.com. Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard is the protein shake of choice around these parts (bodybuilding.com carries it for cheap). You need to be eating 6 meals a day with a balance of protein, carbs, fat and fiber spread between all of them. Eating cereal for breakfast, fruit all day and then something for dinner ain't gonna cut it. Read the link in my sig for suggestions on how to get your diet straightened out.

jag

AndThePickles
02-12-2008, 11:35 AM
There are many, many protein powders available, Savage. Just go to any store such as Vitamin Shoppe or GNC if you don't like shopping online, but they're very overpriced. Go to bodybuilding.com for some of the best deals I've seen.

If you don't want a powder, some companies sell pre-mixed shakes. They taste better but are MUCH more expensive.

JStorm
02-12-2008, 11:38 AM
I eat plates of steak like Arnold, for my protein.

Superman79
02-12-2008, 11:49 AM
There are many, many protein powders available, Savage. Just go to any store such as Vitamin Shoppe or GNC if you don't like shopping online, but they're very overpriced. Go to bodybuilding.com for some of the best deals I've seen.

If you don't want a powder, some companies sell pre-mixed shakes. They taste better but are MUCH more expensive.

Some grocery stores (like Hy-Vee in the mid-west) have pretty good organics and sports nutrition sectiions. I can get EAS protein or a big bucket of the classic Optimum Nutrition brand 100% whey protein for a cheaper price than GNC.

Dangerous
02-12-2008, 12:02 PM
Tonight resistance exersizes and eating.

I am getting into pretty good shape now.
For most of last year I stopped working out and lost quite a bit of weight.
Now I am doing gym twice weekly, and resistance exersize at home at least once a week and eating a lot more. Most have put on about half a stone of muscle. Feel good.

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Some grocery stores (like Hy-Vee in the mid-west) have pretty good organics and sports nutrition sectiions. I can get EAS protein or a big bucket of the classic Optimum Nutrition brand 100% whey protein for a cheaper price than GNC.

It's not hard to beat GNC's prices.

Tonight resistance exersizes and eating.

I am getting into pretty good shape now.
For most of last year I stopped working out and lost quite a bit of weight.
Now I am doing gym twice weekly, and resistance exersize at home at least once a week and eating a lot more. Most have put on about half a stone of muscle. Feel good.

Funny how even a little bit of exercise can make you feel so much better in general, eh? Keep it up! Do work! :up:

jag

Dangerous
02-12-2008, 12:04 PM
I love the leg machines in the gym, particularly the sit down extension.
I max that out along with a few other machines. Ain't really no thing tho, I'm sure plenty o other gym rats max the machines out.

Dangerous
02-12-2008, 12:12 PM
Funny how even a little bit of exercise can make you feel so much better in general, eh? Keep it up! Do work! :up:

jag


I think no matter what your level is, doing whatever amount of exersize makes you feel better than you did before. I don't wanna be a bodybuilder or nothin, but am just building up the weights/reps I'm doing to build strength.

Btw- Does anyone here know about those protein supplements? Whey powder etc, Do they work? How do you take them- Just on the days you train? Do they add bulk to you?

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 02:18 PM
Btw- Does anyone here know about those protein supplements? Whey powder etc, Do they work? How do you take them- Just on the days you train? Do they add bulk to you?

We'd better know about protein around here lol. Whey protein does work; it helps to rebuild muscle tissue bigger after you exhaust them in the gym. I take mine first thing in the morning(with a ton of other things in the shake), pre-workout and post-workout. The goal is to ingest at least 1g of protein per lb of body weight. I'm 220lbs so I need to eat/drink 220g of protein.

*Protein powder is NOT a weight gainer. If you drink shakes all day and sit around watching Murder She Wrote; you will NOT look like Jay Cutler. Protein + work in the gym = muscles!

JStorm
02-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Oooooh - now I get it.


Stupid Adam. :down

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 02:28 PM
Ash Wednesday!

JStorm
02-12-2008, 02:38 PM
Ash Wednesday!

YE-UH!



The Christian way of saying - "what's your New Year's resolution?"


No liquor and beer for me - for 40 days. :up:

NickSox
02-12-2008, 03:06 PM
Changed up my routine for the first time in a little over a month. Chest-tri today was great. So far I like it better than the chest-bi I was doing prior. Time to go restock the protein and pick up some fish oil:up:

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 03:07 PM
YE-UH!



The Christian way of saying - "what's your New Year's resolution?"


No liquor and beer for me - for 40 days. :up:

I remember my Catholic days :heart:

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 03:17 PM
We'd better know about protein around here lol. Whey protein does work; it helps to rebuild muscle tissue bigger after you exhaust them in the gym. I take mine first thing in the morning(with a ton of other things in the shake), pre-workout and post-workout. The goal is to ingest at least 1g of protein per lb of body weight. I'm 220lbs so I need to eat/drink 220g of protein.

*Protein powder is NOT a weight gainer. If you drink shakes all day and sit around watching Murder She Wrote; you will NOT look like Jay Cutler. Protein + work in the gym = muscles!


To expound on this a bit, protein is the primary building block of muscle. Regardless of what your goals are, whether it's to get HYOOOGE or just be in good shape and have a bit of muscle tone, protein is essential to getting you there. Spoons is right that you want to average 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight per day, spread out over the course of the day. If you're a serious bodybuilder, you can take that up to 2 grams per pound of body weight per day. If all you're doing is eating food to get your protein intake, you're going to be eating A LOT of protein rich food to get you there. Whey shakes are a great way to fillin those gaps. I drink one in the mornings with my oatmeal for breakfast. Another one mid-morning with a banana and another one in the afternoons inbetween lunch and dinner. On lift days I'll also do one pre and post workout. Whey is cheap and highly bio-compatible, particularly whey isolates so look for a whey supplement that is rich in those (Optimum Nutrition is an excellent one. Isopure is pure whey isolates, but it's spendy). You can't OD on protein. Just make sure you're keeping your water intake up to support your kidneys as they process all that protein. I drink 1-1.5 gallons of water per day. :up:


jag

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 03:17 PM
I remember my Catholic days :heart:

I don't. :godlessheathen:

jag

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 03:19 PM
Changed up my routine for the first time in a little over a month. Chest-tri today was great. So far I like it better than the chest-bi I was doing prior. Time to go restock the protein and pick up some fish oil:up:

I use chest/bi and back/tri periodization as a way to shake things up once in awhile, but the core of my progress and usual lifting strategy is chest/tri's, legs/shoulders, back/bi's on a three day split. :up:

jag

SuBe
02-12-2008, 03:25 PM
For all you body-Builders:


World's Smallest Bodybuilder, Aditya 'Romeo' Dev of India, Causing Huge Stir

Tuesday, February 12, 2008
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Aditya 'Romeo' Dev
Aditya 'Romeo' Dev



(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330460,00.html#)



A tiny Indian bodybuilder who is less than 3 feet tall and deemed the world's smallest is causing a huge stir in his hometown and gaining international recognition, according to the British press.
Aditya "Romeo" Dev of Phagwara, India, is a little person who is only 2 feet, 9 inches tall and weighs not even 20 pounds, the Daily Mail reported.
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Throngs of people crowd into the local gymnasium on a daily basis to watch him work out, according to the Mail.
"I've been training as a bodybuilder for the last two years, and by now I think I must be the strongest dwarf in the world," Dev, 19, told the Mail. "My size has never stopped me."
In 2006, after months of intense exercise, the Guinness Book of World Records named Dev the smallest bodybuilder on the planet, the Telegraph reported.
In addition to his bodybuilding, Dev is also training to be a dancer, according to the Telegraph.
Unlike most little people, Dev's body is well proportioned, according to the papers.
The pint-sized weight lifter is famous around India and a great source of pride to his parents.

"He has never been bothered at being so small. He has no inferiority complex. He is the jewel of our family," his father told the Telegraph.
Click here for more on this story from the Daily Mail. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513820&in_page_id=1811)
Click here for more on this story from the Telegraph. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/12/wromeo112.xml)

terry78
02-12-2008, 03:27 PM
That's gotta be photoshopped.

JStorm
02-12-2008, 03:29 PM
After class I've got cardio lined-up.


That is all.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 03:41 PM
You can't OD on protein. Just make sure you're keeping your water intake up to support your kidneys as they process all that protein.

jag

Ah yes, I neglected to mention the importance of water when ingesting lots of protein. Poor kidneys :(

JStorm
02-12-2008, 03:43 PM
I drink a glass a water a day.

My eggshake makes up for my lack of.

Also, Burger King makes great salads.

Dorian Gray
02-12-2008, 04:48 PM
Jogging, then a killer ab and cricuit routine.:up:
Though the whey jg suggested is heavy on the stomach.:csad: .

it'll pass but dammit.:cmad:
http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/legionxs/fart.gif

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 04:50 PM
Oh man.
I dont want to discourage anyone from working out, but watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMtypKJQ9I&feature=related

I felt severe pain in my shoulder at about 33-34 seconds in and in my knees at about 1:54 in.......

Jag-please critique the deadlift form shown at 3 minutes in...

I have actually had to do what the guy does at 4:19.

You know I see these power racks not getting used during squats and these guys having to roll the weight off their backs...whats up with that?? Heck, if youre not going to use the rack, let me have it!

There is a 2nd video of similar stuff there as well.

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 05:10 PM
My favorite was the second clip of the person horribly misusing the pulldown machine. Looked like a lot of fun, actually. :D

And what in the blue hell was that kid trying to do with those deadllifts? :huh: Man, whole lot of dumb-asses not using the collars on their lifts, which lead to a lot of accidents, and a whole lot of other dumb-asses not even bothering to use the friggin' squat rack that was RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM!!!! The best of them all, though? All the morons doing bench press with open-palm grips dropping the bars on their chests. Duh.

jag

Super Kal
02-12-2008, 05:29 PM
is it even possible to have withdrawal symptoms from certain foods?

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 05:31 PM
My favorite was the second clip of the person horribly misusing the pulldown machine. Looked like a lot of fun, actually. :D

And what in the blue hell was that kid trying to do with those deadllifts? :huh: Man, whole lot of dumb-asses not using the collars on their lifts, which lead to a lot of accidents, and a whole lot of other dumb-asses not even bothering to use the friggin' squat rack that was RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM!!!! The best of them all, though? All the morons doing bench press with open-palm grips dropping the bars on their chests. Duh.

jag

Yeah-hold something heavy above you, while keeping your hands open so that the heavy item and roll off at any time...sounds like a great idea! :grin:

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=jaguarr;14048018]My favorite was the second clip of the person horribly misusing the pulldown machine. Looked like a lot of fun, actually. :D




Yeah...I was going "what the hell????" when I saw that one

JStorm
02-12-2008, 06:18 PM
LT dropped that weight, on that white dude, like a nasty bologna sandwich.


LT rox!

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 06:21 PM
is it even possible to have withdrawal symptoms from certain foods?

Mostly at a psychological level, only, but possible in some people.

jag

JStorm
02-12-2008, 06:24 PM
Just ran the Ralph Lauren mile, and ended with some light pole sprints.



Looks like it's named, Devil. :up:

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 06:40 PM
The Ralph Lauren mile? Did you run it in a double-breasted wool suit with a bunch of cologne splashed on? :huh:

jag

JStorm
02-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Cheeky.


Devil named the route around his neighborhood 'The Riddler,' because it ends in a 'question mark' - a court.

I live in an apartment complex, and start off in mine - obviously - but most of the mile is in a complex called 'Polo Club.'


So. . the Ralph Lauren mile.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:03 PM
By the way-I just routed and ran a new one-"THE UPPER DECKER"

Cant wait til you feel its pain Storm!!!

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:06 PM
The Ralph Lauren mile? Did you run it in a double-breasted wool suit with a bunch of cologne splashed on? :huh:

jag


:grin:

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:06 PM
I'm going to start calling my elliptical "The Infinity Loop" because it goes on forever. :up:

jag

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:07 PM
Lol!!!

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:08 PM
Sooner or later, I will need a creative team to name all the routes I have mapped.
Storm and I have always done that. We named this incline press bench at Powerhouse "666-mark of the beast" (when we were working out there).

I never did name my original 1 mile course or the 2.2 mile course that I usually run.....

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:12 PM
I call my workout space "The Dungeon". Not overly original, but then again I'm willing to bet the wife and I have used my power rack in some ways most people wouldn't ever imagine that qualifies the name more than most, all alliterations to torturous weight lifting workouts aside. :D


jag

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:14 PM
hmmm...
someone on another website saw my outside setup and called it my "adventure play park"
kind of kiddieland, but whatever

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:16 PM
hmmm...
someone on another website saw my outside setup and called it my "adventure play park"
kind of kiddieland, but whatever

Well, you DO have Chutes & Ladders. :o

jag

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:18 PM
I still havent taken/posted any pics working with the log. I wish it was heavier, actually, but I can still use it. I will try to do that in the next few days.

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:18 PM
How heavy is your log? Wow....that sounded bad...

jag

NickSox
02-12-2008, 07:19 PM
I call my workout space "The Dungeon". Not overly original, but then again I'm willing to bet the wife and I have used my power rack in some ways most people wouldn't ever imagine that qualifies the name more than most, all alliterations to torturous weight lifting workouts aside. :D


jag

Crack that whip!

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:20 PM
Crack that whip!

:grin:

jag

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:21 PM
How heavy is your log? Wow....that sounded bad...

jag

Thats a good question. I will take the bathroom scale outside tomorrow and weigh myself then step on with the log and use the difference to get the log weight (smart huh?). But I guess its not more than 50lbs??? I dont know.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:21 PM
actually, hang on, I can do it now with a flashlight....BRB

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Hurry up, dammit! I got squats to go do, son!

jag

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:24 PM
You guys are soooo gay, right now.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 07:24 PM
I call my workout space "The Dungeon". Not overly original, but then again I'm willing to bet the wife and I have used my power rack in some ways most people wouldn't ever imagine that qualifies the name more than most, all alliterations to torturous weight lifting workouts aside. :D


jag

Hey now!

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:25 PM
I call my workout space "The Dungeon". Not overly original, but then again I'm willing to bet the wife and I have used my power rack in some ways most people wouldn't ever imagine that qualifies the name more than most, all alliterations to torturous weight lifting workouts aside. :D


jag
Hi everybody, welcome to the Fitness thread. We have odd conversations in here peppered with fitness advice.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:25 PM
Yeah, it is 58lbs.....kind of disappointing. You know, I want the size of my log to be much bigger....anyone else have this problem?? :oldrazz:

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:26 PM
Gayyyyyy

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:26 PM
Hey SB and Spoons...be sure to check out the youtube vid on the last page for some laughs.

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:26 PM
Hey now!

Hi everybody, welcome to the Fitness thread. We have odd conversations in here peppered with fitness advice.

Sex IS a workout if you're doing it right! Word! :up:

Yeah, it is 58lbs.....kind of disappointing. You know, I want the size of my log to be much bigger....anyone else have this problem?? :oldrazz:

Have you tried injecting some HCG into your log?

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 07:26 PM
Hey SB and Spoons...be sure to check out the youtube vid on the last page for some laughs.

I just finished it. I loved that kid's deadlifts :huh:

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:27 PM
Nothing is gay as long as you're wearing tons of weight training gear while saying it.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:27 PM
You guys are soooo gay, right now.

There is actually a thread about calling people and things gay, you should look into it.....:whatever:

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:28 PM
I thought about jamming some eyeblots into the ends and attaching some chains!

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:28 PM
Umm....to my log that is....

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:28 PM
Nothing is gay as long as you're wearing tons of weight training gear while saying it.

You obviously haven't spent much time in hardcore gyms in the East Village or the Castro District.

jag

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:29 PM
I thought about jamming some eyeblots into the ends and attaching some chains!

Umm....to my log that is....

HAWT! :heart:

jag

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:29 PM
I just finished it. I loved that kid's deadlifts :huh:

I did as well.

I pointed at the screen - laughed - and said "what are you trying to do?"

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:29 PM
I actually had a serious deadlift question for you true weight trainers (Jag, SB and Spoons) and cant remember it for the life of me now!

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:30 PM
I just finished it. I loved that kid's deadlifts :huh:
Yeah I definitely have to watch this...

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Devil slaps my butt, like a coach - but he is not a coach.


Should I tell the authorities?

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:30 PM
I actually had a serious deadlift question for you true weight trainers (Jag, SB and Spoons) and cant remember it for the life of me now!

They're good for you. You should do them. :up:

Next question?

jag

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:31 PM
I am the authorities MOFO!

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:31 PM
They're good for you. You should do them. :up:

Next question?

jag

HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA.

I AM NOT A NOOB!

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:32 PM
They're good for you. You should do them. :up:

Next question?

jag
Co-signed. You should do them at least once a week, I'd do them more if it wouldn't lead to overtraining.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 07:32 PM
I actually had a serious deadlift question for you true weight trainers (Jag, SB and Spoons) and cant remember it for the life of me now!

The answer is "clench your cheeks"

:up::up:

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:33 PM
I listened to Amy Winehouse while running tonight...do you think that hurt me or helped me?

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:33 PM
The answer is "clench your cheeks"

:up::up:


I thought that was only if you did them in prison.:grin:

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:33 PM
I want you, right now - do you know that?

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:34 PM
I remember! I have never used it, but I know some people like to use the trap bar for deadlifts....your thoughts??

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:34 PM
I listened to Shiny Toy Guns, and my run was sooo frickin' shweet.


I like - totally - wan to do it again.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:35 PM
I want you, right now - do you know that?

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/thispleasesGaryBusey.jpg

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:35 PM
God that video was scary. Though most of those guys were asking for it. Barely any of them looked capable of handling the weight they were lifting.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:36 PM
I listened to Shiny Toy Guns, and my run was sooo frickin' shweet.


I like - totally - wan to do it again.


WHO DAT?

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:36 PM
I remember! I have never used it, but I know some people like to use the trap bar for deadlifts....your thoughts??

Yeah, I know some guys that do that, too. They swear by it. Personally, it's uncomfortable as hell to me. I don't think it makes much of a difference, form-wise, to be honest. More of a grip-comfort thing than anything else. If you've got a trap bar and find that it works better for you, go for it.

jag

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:36 PM
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/thispleasesGaryBusey.jpg

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:37 PM
WHO DAT?

You tube that name with Rainy Monday.


If you don't like that song - you won't like 'em.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 07:37 PM
I thought that was only if you did them in prison.:grin:

Take a spoonful or 2 of Superpump250 and try to do a single rep of deadlifts. You'll be clenching so hard, you might as well be in prison :o

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 07:38 PM
Alright, time to go knock out a leg/shoulders workout. Later.

jag

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:39 PM
Take a spoonful or 2 of Superpump250 and try to do a single rep of deadlifts. You'll be clenching so hard, you might as well be in prison :o

I never drop the soap.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 07:39 PM
I remember! I have never used it, but I know some people like to use the trap bar for deadlifts....your thoughts??


Never tried it, doesn't sound too comfortable though. Those are perfect for shrugs though. When I start building my own home gym later on in life, I'll never shrug w/o that thing :up:

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:40 PM
Take a spoonful or 2 of Superpump250 and try to do a single rep of deadlifts. You'll be clenching so hard, you might as well be in prison :o
Isn't that the Gaspari product. God, I wanna have a label that says "snake oil" for half the stuff in there.

mrvlknight21
02-12-2008, 07:41 PM
Dang...wife is home...Im in trouble...see you guys,

JStorm
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
The Cat lays the smack down on the Devil.


You guys can quote me on that.

ShadowBoxing
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
Dang...wife is home...Im in trouble...see you guys,Don't apologize for your online gayness, embrace it.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Isn't that the Gaspari product. God, I wanna have a label that says "snake oil" for half the stuff in there.

Yeah. I've still got a dozen sample packs from my GNC days.

BAH HUMBBUG!
02-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Don't apologize for your online gayness, embrace it.

Hey SB I sent you a message a few days back.

Savage
02-12-2008, 08:59 PM
Oh man.
I dont want to discourage anyone from working out, but watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMtypKJQ9I&feature=related

I felt severe pain in my shoulder at about 33-34 seconds in and in my knees at about 1:54 in.......

Jag-please critique the deadlift form shown at 3 minutes in...

I have actually had to do what the guy does at 4:19.

You know I see these power racks not getting used during squats and these guys having to roll the weight off their backs...whats up with that?? Heck, if youre not going to use the rack, let me have it!

There is a 2nd video of similar stuff there as well.LOL! Oh god. Oh god, I'm in tears. I wish I got to witness more stuff like this. :D

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 09:35 PM
LOL! Oh god. Oh god, I'm in tears. I wish I got to witness more stuff like this. :D

I've seen the "hey, let's do 300+ pound maxes on bench with an open palm grip and accidentally drop it on my rib cage" thing live and in person, before (think I posted about it in here, once). Ain't pretty. Dude cracked some ribs and cried like a little ***** for a half an hour after he did it...even though me and several others told him not to bench like that.

SERIOUS leg and shoulder work done tonight. Had some major anger for my boss to work out. :up:

jag

BAH HUMBBUG!
02-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Oh man.
I dont want to discourage anyone from working out, but watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMtypKJQ9I&feature=related

I felt severe pain in my shoulder at about 33-34 seconds in and in my knees at about 1:54 in.......

Jag-please critique the deadlift form shown at 3 minutes in...

I have actually had to do what the guy does at 4:19.

You know I see these power racks not getting used during squats and these guys having to roll the weight off their backs...whats up with that?? Heck, if youre not going to use the rack, let me have it!

There is a 2nd video of similar stuff there as well.


OH MY GOD. What the hell is the idiot second to last doing? Please, someone explain this to me please? Anyone at all can you help me understand what is going on inside his head?

I mean because I can not possibly begin to even fathom what he is thinking. Not at all, and I have a damn good imagination.

God that video is aweful. The moron in his garage performing a deadlift.

And what the hell is the second chick in the video doing? Seriously? I mean I never say anything to anyone ever in the gym.....well and I don't think I would say anything to her either. But I sure as hell would say something to one of the trainers there if they didn't say anything to her already.

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 11:16 PM
Speaking of bad form; something that's been getting more and more popular IMO is propping your feet up on the bench while bench pressing. I'd seen it a few times during flat bench, but I saw an older man 2 weeks ago practically sitting on his feet while incline benching! :eek:

Feet flat on the floor people!

jaguarr
02-12-2008, 11:22 PM
Speaking of bad form; something that's been getting more and more popular IMO is propping your feet up on the bench while bench pressing. I'd seen it a few times during flat bench, but I saw an older man 2 weeks ago practically sitting on his feet while incline benching! :eek:

Feet flat on the floor people!

I stumbled across on article on close-grip bench not too long ago that talked about raising your feet up in the air and crossing your legs because that would somehow magically put more focus on your triceps. WTF? :huh:

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-12-2008, 11:23 PM
Haha, that doesn't even come close to making sense.

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 12:29 AM
Haha, that doesn't even come close to making sense.

No, it doesn't. I even tried it just to see if there was something I was missing and other than adding a bit of thrilling danger factor to the lift, it didn't do anything to focus the movement on the tri's any more than it already does. Lame-osity. :down

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 12:36 AM
I think it's already hard enough to control the bar with such a close grip; I ain't addin' to it by having my feet flailing about lol

BAH HUMBBUG!
02-13-2008, 02:01 AM
Speaking of bad form; something that's been getting more and more popular IMO is propping your feet up on the bench while bench pressing. I'd seen it a few times during flat bench, but I saw an older man 2 weeks ago practically sitting on his feet while incline benching! :eek:

Feet flat on the floor people!

Yeah I see a lot of people lifting their feet or arching their backs. I just look, turn my head and continue working my biceps imagining them becoming machines of mass destruction that chuck norris himself would fear! :D

user123456789
02-13-2008, 02:14 AM
Speaking of bad form; something that's been getting more and more popular IMO is propping your feet up on the bench while bench pressing. I'd seen it a few times during flat bench, but I saw an older man 2 weeks ago practically sitting on his feet while incline benching! :eek:

Feet flat on the floor people!
that's actually a legit technique

don't knock it just because it looks weird

user123456789
02-13-2008, 02:15 AM
Yeah I see a lot of people lifting their feet or arching their backs. I just look, turn my head and continue working my biceps imagining them becoming machines of mass destruction that chuck norris himself would fear! :D
natural arch is perfectly fine/normal

exaggerated arch is usually done by powerlifters

carry on with your bicep curls in the squat rack :D

mrvlknight21
02-13-2008, 06:39 AM
No, it doesn't. I even tried it just to see if there was something I was missing and other than adding a bit of thrilling danger factor to the lift, it didn't do anything to focus the movement on the tri's any more than it already does. Lame-osity. :down

jag

I have seen this a few times and I can tell you that since you place your lumbar region in a 3% incline due to the angle of your posterior chain, this will place 14% more pressure directly on the triceps medial head, thus causing more growth.
And if you believe that, I have some waterfront land to sell you. :hehe:

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 09:38 AM
that's actually a legit technique

don't knock it just because it looks weird

Benching with your feet on the bench flattens the spine and decreases stability. I realize the idea is to take the curve out of the spine and put more emphasis on the target muscle, but it's not something I would really recommend. Better off focusing on proper form and keeping your feet on the ground. I know there's a style of military bench press where they do the bench with their feet in the air. It's designed around strengthening the core along with the chest, rather than emphasizing chest development. The whole thing about close-grip benching with your feet in the air because it will put emphasis on the tri's made me laugh my ass off, though.

jag

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 09:38 AM
I have seen this a few times and I can tell you that since you place your lumbar region in a 3% incline due to the angle of your posterior chain, this will place 14% more pressure directly on the triceps medial head, thus causing more growth.
And if you believe that, I have some waterfront land to sell you. :hehe:

Haha! :D

jag

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 09:53 AM
that's actually a legit technique

don't knock it just because it looks weird

Oh, I tried it long ago. Keeping the bar steady was 90x harder :down:

Superman79
02-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Got a new personal best in sets and reps on dumbbell bench yesterday...I'm freaking stoked :D

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 11:58 AM
Got a new personal best in sets and reps on dumbbell bench yesterday...I'm freaking stoked :D

Awesome! How much longer do you anticipate using the pink dumbbells? :D

jag

Superman79
02-13-2008, 12:04 PM
Awesome! How much longer do you anticipate using the pink dumbbells? :D

jag

Har Har...:oldrazz:

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 12:08 PM
Haha

JStorm
02-13-2008, 12:43 PM
More frickin' pushups, tonight.

Lah-dee-dah.


I'll 'one-arm' 'em again - just for some kicks. :up:

user123456789
02-13-2008, 01:51 PM
pink DBs = alpha

The Joker_1000
02-13-2008, 03:41 PM
About to go work out in a minute.

user123456789
02-13-2008, 03:42 PM
About to go work out in a minute.
want someone to hold ur hand?

The Joker_1000
02-13-2008, 03:46 PM
That's not funny.

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Back and bi's tonight, or as I call it : pain and boredom. But you gotta do work :up:

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 04:24 PM
Back and bi's tonight, or as I call it : pain and boredom. But you gotta do work :up:

Post your back/bi workout. I'll make it more interesting for you.

jag

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Deads
Rows (DB or BB)
Chins or Lat pulldowns

Standing BB Curls
Reverse Grip Curls
One arm preachers or Forearm curls

I sometimes throw in some widowmakers at the end too

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 04:39 PM
Deads
Rows (DB or BB)
Chins or Lat pulldowns

Standing BB Curls
Reverse Grip Curls
One arm preachers or Forearm curls

I sometimes throw in some widowmakers at the end too

What equipment do you have access to?

jag

user123456789
02-13-2008, 04:44 PM
Deads
Rows (DB or BB)
Chins or Lat pulldowns

Standing BB Curls
Reverse Grip Curls
One arm preachers or Forearm curls

I sometimes throw in some widowmakers at the end too
how many sets?

i hope your biceps dont get more work than your back rofl

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 04:44 PM
University gym, so pretty much everything.

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 04:48 PM
how many sets?

i hope your biceps dont get more work than your back rofl

Oh crap, I forgot to put that. Everything's 3 sets of 6-10 reps.

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 04:50 PM
how many sets?

i hope your biceps dont get more work than your back rofl

Oh crap, I forgot to put that. Everything's 3 sets of 6-10 reps.

user123456789
02-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Oh crap, I forgot to put that. Everything's 3 sets of 6-10 reps.
how many times a week u do back

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Once, I do a back/bi, chest/tri, shoulders/legs 3 day split.

Although my back does get hit on legs day.

user123456789
02-13-2008, 05:05 PM
Once, I do a back/bi, chest/tri, shoulders/legs 3 day split.

Although my back does get hit on legs day.
how long u been training

what are your stats?

hows ur diet?

i would increase volume for your back and most likely you aren't giving enough attention to your other bodyparts either

Sun_Down
02-13-2008, 05:10 PM
how long u been training

what are your stats?

hows ur diet?

i would increase volume for your back and most likely you aren't giving enough attention to your other bodyparts either

My diet and routine are fine, I'm not looking to do any drastic overhauls here. I was just joking about back/biceps day beoing boring and jag said he could spice up my routine.

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 06:28 PM
I'm officially done with skullcrushers. I can't seem to get the form right(elbows and shoulders hurt afterwards). I think I'll stick with dips and pushdowns :up:

ShadowBoxing
02-13-2008, 06:38 PM
I'm officially done with skullcrushers. I can't seem to get the form right(elbows and shoulders hurt afterwards). I think I'll stick with dips and pushdowns :up:
Skullcrunchers are great if performed correctly. In fact, I really haven't found a decent replacement for them, maybe aside from close-grip bench. A lot of people call them nosebreakers, unfortunately this is a mysnomer that comes from poor form on skullcrunchers. Most people lower the bar to their face or forehead. This is not nearly far enough. Your arms should be at about a 60 pr 70 degree angle when fully straightened. Most people hold them perpendicular to the ground, this is wrong because at the end of the movement it takes the emphasis off the triceps.

The Joker_1000
02-13-2008, 06:40 PM
What exactly are skullcrushers?

ShadowBoxing
02-13-2008, 06:42 PM
What exactly are skullcrushers?
They are a tricep exercise where you lay on your back and hold the bar like you would in a reverse curl. You lower the weight back behind your head, and then press up using the tricep muscles in your arms. It's a challenging movement.

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 06:42 PM
Most people lower the bar to their face or forehead. This is not nearly far enough. Your arms should be at about a 60 pr 70 degree angle when fully straightened. Most people hold them perpendicular to the ground, this is wrong because at the end of the movement it takes the emphasis off the triceps.

Yeah, that's a bit hard to correct. At the end of the lift, my shoulders are crackin left and right lol

The Joker_1000
02-13-2008, 06:46 PM
That's something I'll probably try after I've trained a little more.

ShadowBoxing
02-13-2008, 06:48 PM
There's no time like the present.

JStorm
02-13-2008, 06:48 PM
It's 31 degrees here and feels like 19.


I sooooo do not want to go running.


"Pain is weakness leaving to body."


"Stop looking at me, Swan!"

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 06:48 PM
That's something I'll probably try after I've trained a little more.

Actually, if you start them now; you'll make ridiculous gains as you're new to the game AND as much as I can't get it right, it is great for adding mass to the triceps :up:

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 07:33 PM
Skullcrunchers are great if performed correctly. In fact, I really haven't found a decent replacement for them, maybe aside from close-grip bench. A lot of people call them nosebreakers, unfortunately this is a mysnomer that comes from poor form on skullcrunchers. Most people lower the bar to their face or forehead. This is not nearly far enough. Your arms should be at about a 60 pr 70 degree angle when fully straightened. Most people hold them perpendicular to the ground, this is wrong because at the end of the movement it takes the emphasis off the triceps.

Do NOT lower the bar to your forehead or face on skullcrushers. You will F**K up your rotator cuffs. Big time. Here's how to do them properly:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Bent-Arm+Dumbbell+Pullover
jag

terry78
02-13-2008, 07:38 PM
I've been eating sandwiches consisting of roast turkey and a salad sans dressing on the side for lunch for about a month now as opposed to eating out. I weighed 150 back in December, now I weigh 136. :dry: I don't think it's the food.

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Deads
Rows (DB or BB)
Chins or Lat pulldowns

Standing BB Curls
Reverse Grip Curls
One arm preachers or Forearm curls

I sometimes throw in some widowmakers at the end too

Sorry I didn't get to this earlier. Got sucked into a meeting at work. So, here's some thoughts:

For back, try adding in some Rack Chins (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=320814). Weighted if you can (put a weight plate in your lap). Pure awesomeness for adding width and thickness to your back. Also, some machine or cable rows would be a good thing to add into your back routine. Notice I say ADD...not replace anything with your current routine, but add to it. This will help with increasing the volume on your back that boyscouT suggested.

For curls, you could add in some standing hammer curls with those DB's (same as standing DB curls, but you keep your thumbs facing up so your grip on the DB's stays up and down like you're holding hammers in each hand and keeping the tops of the hammers facing the ceiling). Concentration curls are also a good way to break things up and get some extra exhaustion on the bicep.

Give those things a try next back day and let me know if you like any of them or feel like they really hit some muscles you were missing before (I know those Rack Chins will).

jag

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 07:40 PM
I've been eating sandwiches consisting of roast turkey and a salad sans dressing on the side for lunch for about a month now as opposed to eating out. I weighed 150 back in December, now I weigh 136. :dry: I don't think it's the food.

That's all you eat? Ever? Do you do any exercise?

jag

terry78
02-13-2008, 07:42 PM
That's all you eat? Ever? Do you do any exercise?

jag

I may switch it up like once a week, but I've grown cheap regarding lunch. Breakfast and dinner are always different though. I have to walk about a mile and a quarter to the office every day, then back to the subway the same distance. I won't start running again until it gets nicer outside.

jaguarr
02-13-2008, 07:44 PM
I may switch it up like once a week, but I've grown cheap regarding lunch. Breakfast and dinner are always different though. I have to walk about a mile and a quarter to the office every day, then back to the subway the same distance. I won't start running again until it gets nicer outside.

Hard to know if that's what's causing you to lose weight or not. Depends on your daily caloric intake. Do you track that in something like fitday.com? Might be a good place to start to see if you're getting enough to eat on a daily basis.

jag

The Joker_1000
02-13-2008, 07:44 PM
Actually, if you start them now; you'll make ridiculous gains as you're new to the game AND as much as I can't get it right, it is great for adding mass to the triceps :up:

When I work out tomorrow I'll definitely try it since you said I can get good gains. Btw, for today I practice playing basketball as a cardio exercise, it can actually get you tired if you do it long enough.

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 08:19 PM
Do NOT lower the bar to your forehead or face on skullcrushers. You will F**K up your rotator cuffs. Big time. Here's how to do them properly:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Bent-Arm+Dumbbell+Pullover
jag

Y'know, I've never tried them with dumbells

mrvlknight21
02-13-2008, 08:20 PM
It's 31 degrees here and feels like 19.


I sooooo do not want to go running.


"Pain is weakness leaving to body."


"Stop looking at me, Swan!"

dont be a puss.

Colossal Spoons
02-13-2008, 08:21 PM
When I work out tomorrow I'll definitely try it since you said I can get good gains. Btw, for today I practice playing basketball as a cardio exercise, it can actually get you tired if you do it long enough.

Seriously, any lifting you do(with good form of course) will add some serious mass to your frame as you're a new lifter and you're in the prime growing years of your life.

Go find heavy things and pick them up! Haha :up:

JStorm
02-13-2008, 08:22 PM
dont be a puss.

Puss on these.


The cold cut my balls like Kennedy's chin.


Dude, it sucked. :down


10x10 pushups. Alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator.

mrvlknight21
02-14-2008, 06:13 AM
Puss on these.


The cold cut my balls like Kennedy's chin.


Dude, it sucked. :down


10x10 pushups. Alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator.


You are learning well young padawan.

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 09:44 PM
Guess we all either took today off or were busy today lol.

I slaughtered a job interview this morning, that's about the only work I did. Should have done some cardio, but it's cool.

Savage
02-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Not me. I was just absent minded and forgot my sneakers this morning, so they wouldn't let me in. :csad:

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 09:47 PM
Damn, what kinda gym do you go to and what kind of shoes were you wearing?

Savage
02-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Just the college gym and it being winter and all I usually wear my boots and put on my sneakers in the locker room. I'm not wearing sneakers in this weather. :o

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 09:53 PM
I've seen people lifting in boots and jeans in a university gym before. It looked very uncomfortable though

JStorm
02-14-2008, 10:02 PM
Ran my Ralph Lauren mile in 9:45.


By this time next week - 9:15 or better. :up:

Savage
02-14-2008, 10:05 PM
I've seen people lifting in boots and jeans in a university gym before. It looked very uncomfortable though

I did back when I was a freshman but they kept warning me about it. I needed to get a lock for the locker and I haven't bothered to even get one till just now (junior year). :oldrazz: Hoping I can put on 15 pounds before June though. I'll be happy to even put on 5 pounds before June.

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 10:05 PM
Ran my Ralph Lauren mile in 9:45.


By this time next week - 9:15 or better. :up:

Wooooo!

JStorm
02-14-2008, 10:09 PM
Ye-UH

Devil just creamed somewhere.

Sun_Down
02-14-2008, 10:13 PM
Sorry I didn't get to this earlier. Got sucked into a meeting at work. So, here's some thoughts:

For back, try adding in some Rack Chins (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=320814). Weighted if you can (put a weight plate in your lap). Pure awesomeness for adding width and thickness to your back. Also, some machine or cable rows would be a good thing to add into your back routine. Notice I say ADD...not replace anything with your current routine, but add to it. This will help with increasing the volume on your back that boyscouT suggested.

For curls, you could add in some standing hammer curls with those DB's (same as standing DB curls, but you keep your thumbs facing up so your grip on the DB's stays up and down like you're holding hammers in each hand and keeping the tops of the hammers facing the ceiling). Concentration curls are also a good way to break things up and get some extra exhaustion on the bicep.

Give those things a try next back day and let me know if you like any of them or feel like they really hit some muscles you were missing before (I know those Rack Chins will).

jag

Ah, rack chins. I've heard you guys talk so much about those but have yet to try them out. I'll be sure to do that.

But do you think adding lifts to my routine would put me at risk for overtraining?

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 10:14 PM
I'll be tweaking my back routine in a bout 4 weeks; I'll be sure to add rack chins into the mix

Sun_Down
02-14-2008, 10:21 PM
Wow, so I just did some research on rack chins and boy did I misunderstand how they worked! Glad I never tried them before, but now I can't wait :up:

THOMAS LOGAN
02-14-2008, 10:54 PM
Hey people, I'm just discovering this thread thanks to Colossal Spoons.

I'm 5'11", and currently 14% Body Fat at 219 lbs. I'm dieting right now to make 8% by June when I'm shooting an Indie film.

Last year I successfully got down to 7% at 184 lbs. It killed me. The eating, the sweating, the dizzyness. This year I'm not going any lower than 8 or 9%.

I've done the chicken breast/Forman grill diet, the Tilapia/Forman diet, the Tuna/Pita bread diet. I hate ALL diets. Right now I'm testing out a new method that seems to be working. I'm doing 6 meals a day with 3 hour intervals. 3 of the meals are low-carb shakes that cover half my protein requirements (170 g) and the other three are whatever I feel like eating except fast food. I'm eating the solid meals before my cardio session so I think I'm killin off the carbs that should be slowing me down.

I'm almost positive that this taste friendly diet (that doesn't include any dairy products) will put me in a plateau at 11%. My stomach is flat, I have alot of volume, and my stamina is great. Because I'm eating anything from Subway to Bennigans, I'm not a weakling with the weights. Unlike my last diet at 14%, I'm still benching a decent amount of weight and doing 12-15 reps with it.

Anyway, with this "fun" diet I went from 18% (236) to 14% in 4 weeks. I know half of that was water retention from a fatass Christmas, but I'm happy with the other 2% going down that quickly.

Well, I think that's a good start. I'm gonna try and read as many pages of this thread by the time I reach 10%. Godwilling that'll happen by late March.

Good to see fellow Fitness-Oriented Superhero Fans. Mickey Rourke got me to start boxing, and I loved seeing him as Marv so many years later.

Here are my top 2 favorite Actors turned Bodybuilders in an effort to match their comic book personas:

Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in X2: 200 lbs. 7% Body Fat...

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5397/hughjackmaniswolverineixy0.jpg

Thomas Jane as Frank Castle in The Punisher: 190 lbs. 8% Body Fat..

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3618/thomasjanethepunishertp5.jpg

-TL

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 11:14 PM
14% at 219lbs is pretty good. Good work :up:

I'm about 17% at 220lbs

THOMAS LOGAN
02-14-2008, 11:16 PM
Thanks for the kudos bro. Same to you.

-TL

Savage
02-14-2008, 11:22 PM
How do you go about checking your body fat percentage anyway?

And Thomas Logan, dude, where do you keep finding this info on these actors? Tom Jane's body is pretty much the one I want right now.

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 11:31 PM
Body fat % can be measured a million ways. I used this hand held electric device to find mine :up:

Savage
02-14-2008, 11:33 PM
Awesome. How'd you manage to get your hands on one of those?

I remember there was the other one where you could measure your wrist, your waist and then some equation with your weight to figure it out. Totally slips my mind right now though.

Colossal Spoons
02-14-2008, 11:52 PM
My college dietitian had one.

Calipers work too

THOMAS LOGAN
02-15-2008, 12:40 AM
Savage and Colossal Spoons, you guys just mentioned my least favorite Body Fat testing methods. The machine is never accurate - I was 10% with a 30 inch waste and a six pack and it told me I was 13%. Six packs aren't even visible at 13%. The equation methods which I learned when I took my Personal Training course with the NCSF, all proved innacurate as well. They can help you ballpark where you're at, but you could also do that by just looking in the mirror.

The Calipers are the BEST and most ACCURATE method, IF done by an individual that knows what he's doing and isn't yourself. Its too hard to measure your own back fat even with a mirror. Also make sure that whoever is doing it takes measurements from all the core fat points: Lower back, calves, triceps, stomach, hams.

Savage thanks for the props, I buy Flex, Muscle & Fitness and Men's Health on a monthy basis. These mags keep track of all of Hollywood's big guys. Flex loves Jackman and is constantly reporting on his progress. He did an interview with them not too long ago where he talked about benching 315 lbs. 8 times while listening to Seether. Jane did his interview with Muscle & Fitness for Punisher 4 years ago, and talked about how he started at 165 lbs, 14% Body Fat and 6 months later, ended up lookin the way he does in that pic above. Unfortunately unlike Jackman, Jane doesn't live in the gym anymore. Jackman probably has a bed next to the smith machine...

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5619/hughjackmaniswolverineiaj5.jpg

I thank Jane for introducing me to Myoplex Dlx. That's the protein brand he took for Punisher, which I've been taking for 4 years. Its high-quality protein that's worth the $300 a month. And it doesn't taste like mud.

-TL

Savage
02-15-2008, 12:45 AM
25 (more likely 30 if you take into account the fat percentage) lbs in 6 months. Wow. Can you post what his routine was like? I know these guys SAY they do god knows how many hours a day, every day, but with the rest that is needed to recover and build muscle, a program that encompasses every day of the week CAN'T be a productive way to gain muscle.

AndThePickles
02-15-2008, 12:47 AM
I've heard the opposite about calipers being the most accurate :huh:

Colossal Spoons
02-15-2008, 12:52 AM
I def plan on buying Men's Health and Men's Fitness in the future :up:

THOMAS LOGAN
02-15-2008, 01:22 AM
Thomas Jane's Frank Castle routine: 2 trips to the gym per day

Monday: Chest and Biceps

-Pec Dec (flies) 4 sets, 10 reps
-Incline Dumbell Presses 4 sets, 10 reps
-Flat Bench Press 4 sets, 10 reps
-Dips 4 sets, 10 reps
-Barbell Curls (easy bar) 4 sets, 10 reps
-Dumbell Curls 4 sets, 10 reps
-Reverse Curls (forearms) 4 sets, 10 reps

Tuesday: Legs

-Leg Extension 4 sets, 15 reps
-Leg Press 4 sets, 15 reps
-Parallel Squat (machine) 4 sets, 15 reps - immediately followed by...
-Walking Lunges 3 sets
-Standing Calf Raise 4 sets, 15 reps
-Seated Calf Raise 4 sets, 15 reps

Thursday: Back and Triceps

-Lat Pulldown 3 sets, 15 reps
-Front Pulldown 3 sets, 15 reps
-Neutral-Grip Machine Row done with one arm 4 sets, 15 reps
-Wide-Grip Machine Row 3 sets, 15 reps
-Lying Triceps Extension (skull crushers) 3 sets, 10 reps
-Cable pushdown 4 sets, 10 reps
-V-Bar pushdown 3 sets, 10 reps
-Reverse Triceps Extension (kickbacks) 4 sets, 10 reps

Friday: Shoulders, Traps and Legs

-Dumbell Shrugs 4 sets, 10 reps
-Barbell Shrug 2 sets, 10 reps
-Dumbell seated Military Press (dumbell presses) 4 sets, 10 reps
-Lateral Raises (sides) 3 sets, 10 reps
-Front Raises 3 sets, 10 reps
-Reverse flies (pec dec or dumbell) 3 sets, 10 reps
-Lying Hamstring curls 3 sets, 10 reps
-One-Leg Hamstring curls 3 sets, 10 reps
-Straight Leg Dead lift (machine) 4 sets, 10 reps

*Pick a single exercise for a bodypart and do 10 sets of 10 reps with 60 seconds rest in between.

*1 hour of cardio every day of the week

I'm really gonna miss Jane as Castle. This kind of commitment is what sold me on his take of The Punisher...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8518/thomasjanethepunisher2yd8.jpg

-TL