The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[Cory]

Why is it when I look down at my stomach I look sort of fat or it looks like my stomach hangs out but when I look in the mirror I can see abs? Is it like this for anyone else here?

well distance is one thing...you look more defined looking in a mirror a few feet away rather then looking straight down a foot away ya know?

[The Joker_1000]

So, basically just go by what I see in the mirror, right?

i dont like the whole weight/ height scale in doctors offices and gyms..

it says for someone my height of 5'7, your obese if u weigh over like 160... which is BS. i guess it doesnt take into account muscle mass and athletes in general.

I hate that as well because it's just giving someone a label without knowing everything that should be taken into consideration like muscle mass. I put in my weight, waist, and neck and a website said my bodyfat is 21% and then below said 15%. These were my two options as far as what my bodyfat could be. I'm pretty sure it couldn't be 21% because it was lower than 21% back when I was eating heavy junk food. I think I got the rating mostly based on my weight.

As for Rocky, I'm sure I'll check out all of those, the franchise seems like it was pretty good. Btw, how good was the newest Rocky movie?

[Colossal Spoons]

I've got no prob with being obese by the doctor's office's standards lol. It all gets made up for when the nurse gets to the "Are you physically active?" part of the questionnaire and just chuckles :D

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So, basically just go by what I see in the mirror, right?



I hate that as well because it's just giving someone a label without knowing everything that should be taken into consideration like muscle mass. I put in my weight, waist, and neck and a website said my bodyfat is 21% and then below said 15%. These were my two options as far as what my bodyfat could be. I'm pretty sure it couldn't be 21% because it was lower than 21% back when I was eating heavy junk food. I think I got the rating mostly based on my weight.

As for Rocky, I'm sure I'll check out all of those, the franchise seems like it was pretty good. Btw, how good was the newest Rocky movie?

Better than 4 or 5 worse than the rest. Overall the franchise is ok. The first is by far the best but by making two Stallone basically ruined the whole meaning of the first one. :down

Oh and he's signed a deal to make another one

[Cory]

Better than 4 or 5 worse than the rest. Overall the franchise is ok. The first is by far the best but by making two Stallone basically ruined the whole meaning of the first one. :down

Oh and he's signed a deal to make another one

WHAT?!?!? WHY? where did u see this?!

[omid17]

i dont like the whole weight/ height scale in doctors offices and gyms..

it says for someone my height of 5'7, your obese if u weigh over like 160... which is BS. i guess it doesnt take into account muscle mass and athletes in general.thats BS , im 5'7 too so that means im going to die any minute lol

[Cory]

quick question... if i wake up, dont eat, and then after class do cardio, will it have the same fat burning effect? my classes are pretty early and i dont feel like wakin up at 6:45 to go on a bike for 45 min.

[jaguarr]

Why is it when I look down at my stomach I look sort of fat or it looks like my stomach hangs out but when I look in the mirror I can see abs? Is it like this for anyone else here?

It's a matter of perspective. Can the sharpest sword cut itself?

i dont like the whole weight/ height scale in doctors offices and gyms..

it says for someone my height of 5'7, your obese if u weigh over like 160... which is BS. i guess it doesnt take into account muscle mass and athletes in general.

I've got no prob with being obese by the doctor's office's standards lol. It all gets made up for when the nurse gets to the "Are you physically active?" part of the questionnaire and just chuckles :D

I'm 5'6" and ~197 these days (I was up to 215 for awhile) and my doctor has always laughed when I tell her I'm probably going to die any day now going by the obesity index. Go by what you see in the mirror, how you feel and, in the instance of your doc, how your blood pressure and blood work look. ;)

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Some chick blushed and swooned at me in the gym just now when she saw me doing weighted dips. I'm not a cocky fellow by any means but having somebody ask "How do you do that!?" is quite the ego stroke :D

[Cory]

im guessing your a 5'6 freak of nature.

[NickSox]

I added in x-reps to my set today for the first time after reading about it here. It felt awesome and I am def. going to be sore tomorrow.

[Cory]

ive never heard of x-reps :o

[Colossal Spoons]

ive never heard of x-reps :o

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/xrep1.htm

[jaguarr]

This article is about X-Reps:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/xrep1.htm

Cory, I'd recommend you focus on just learning your new routine and getting acquainted with the basics just yet. X-Reps are more of an advanced technique. We can work those in later on. You should see some pretty excellent gains over the next several months with the new routine, anyway. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

Some chick blushed and swooned at me in the gym just now when she saw me doing weighted dips. I'm not a cocky fellow by any means but having somebody ask "How do you do that!?" is quite the ego stroke :D

You should have walked her up to the Dip bar, strapped 120 pounds to her and told her "Do work! :cmad: ". :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Some chick blushed and swooned at me in the gym just now when she saw me doing weighted dips. I'm not a cocky fellow by any means but having somebody ask "How do you do that!?" is quite the ego stroke :D

Its amazing the folks that cant do this exercise. When I was at the academy, I saw a guy doing bench press that looked like a monster. He was probably close to my height (5' 11"), but was a good 225 of solid muscle. If you looked at the 2 of us, you could easily say that I am the one that doesnt work out. I weigh 185. Anyways, I did weighted pullups to start my workout while he did bench press. I never saw him go heavy, and I never saw him struggle. I came over to do weighted dips after the pullups. I decided to just go with 45 lbs, since I was going to do sets of 12 or more reps. I did a few and he came up and asked about my dip belt. I told him I was done and he could use it and he said, he might try later. He got on the dip station and struggled, shimmying his body back and forth in an attempt to push up and finnaly dropped off and cussed. He couldnt get 1 rep of his own bodyweight! I was like WTF! He came up and said something to me that day about my strength that made me feel pretty good too, especially coming from him!
I still cant understand why he couldnt get a single dip of his bodyweight.

[jaguarr]

Its amazing the folks that cant do this exercise. When I was at the academy, I saw a guy doing bench press that looked like a monster. He was probably close to my height (5' 11"), but was a good 225 of solid muscle. If you looked at the 2 of us, you could easily say that I am the one that doesnt work out. I weigh 185. Anyways, I did weighted pullups to start my workout while he did bench press. I never saw him go heavy, and I never saw him struggle. I came over to do weighted dips after the pullups. I decided to just go with 45 lbs, since I was going to do sets of 12 or more reps. I did a few and he came up and asked about my dip belt. I told him I was done and he could use it and he said, he might try later. He got on the dip station and struggled, shimmying his body back and forth in an attempt to push up and finnaly dropped off and cussed. He couldnt get 1 rep of his own bodyweight! I was like WTF! He came up and said something to me that day about my strength that made me feel pretty good too, especially coming from him!
I still cant understand why he couldnt get a single dip of his bodyweight.

Yeah, I've seen that before. The number of guys who can't even do one bodyweight pullup or dip is astounding. When I walk up with 120 strapped on and do dips for reps with that weight it's fun to see their faces. :D

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Crazy...there is no way I can bench what that guy benches or deadlifts or whatever. But he didnt have the strength to do a single bodyweight dip! Crazy stuff.

[jaguarr]

Crazy...there is no way I can bench what that guy benches or deadlifts or whatever. But he didnt have the strength to do a single bodyweight dip! Crazy stuff.

Most guys like that just do an assload of benching and that's really about it. Won't find 'em in the squat rack. Won't find 'em doing deads or cleans & presses. You'll find them either doing curls or bench, and that's about it. :down

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

You should have walked her up to the Dip bar, strapped 120 pounds to her and told her "Do work! :cmad: ". :up:

jag

She was all "I can only do like 2" and I told her "Good, next week you'll be doing 3" lol

[mrvlknight21]

Probably right, but he was pretty developed and well rounded. His legs were big and the guy had lats for days. Oh well.

[Colossal Spoons]

Its amazing the folks that cant do this exercise. When I was at the academy, I saw a guy doing bench press that looked like a monster. He was probably close to my height (5' 11"), but was a good 225 of solid muscle. If you looked at the 2 of us, you could easily say that I am the one that doesnt work out. I weigh 185. Anyways, I did weighted pullups to start my workout while he did bench press. I never saw him go heavy, and I never saw him struggle. I came over to do weighted dips after the pullups. I decided to just go with 45 lbs, since I was going to do sets of 12 or more reps. I did a few and he came up and asked about my dip belt. I told him I was done and he could use it and he said, he might try later. He got on the dip station and struggled, shimmying his body back and forth in an attempt to push up and finnaly dropped off and cussed. He couldnt get 1 rep of his own bodyweight! I was like WTF! He came up and said something to me that day about my strength that made me feel pretty good too, especially coming from him!
I still cant understand why he couldnt get a single dip of his bodyweight.

I think the reason most people don't do dips is b/c they're afraid to let people see them struggle on what looks like it should be an easy lift.

[jaguarr]

She was all "I can only do like 2" and I told her "Good, next week you'll be doing 3" lol

:up:

jag

[jaguarr]

Probably right, but he was pretty developed and well rounded. His legs were big and the guy had lats for days. Oh well.

Way to find his weakness, Batman. :up:

jag

[Cory]

quick question... if i wake up, dont eat, and then after class do cardio, will it have the same fat burning effect? my classes are pretty early and i dont feel like wakin up at 6:45 to go on a bike for 45 min.

anyone?

[jaguarr]

Don't wait TOO long after waking to eat. Especially if you're lifting. You're already catabolic from not having eaten for so long and if your body is trying to heal itself from heavy weight training, you need the nutrition more than you need the empty-stomach cardio. I wouldn't wait until after class and then cardio to eat, personally. The downsides far outweigh the upsides.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Way to find his weakness, Batman. :up:

jag

:cwink:

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah Cory, I was thinking what Jag said. But on a side note, nobody feels like getting up early to exercise, but you should try it sometime. It is an awesome way to start your day and you get it done, so nothing gets in the way of it.

[Cory]

yea i guess ill be waking up early :cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

yea i guess ill be waking up early :cmad:

No need for the angry face...its a good thing. :yay::yay::yay:

[Cory]

mornings are my enemy :twisted:

[mrvlknight21]

Conquer your enemy then!

P.S. I will be up with you.

[The Joker_1000]

It's a matter of perspective. Can the sharpest sword cut itself?





I'm 5'6" and ~197 these days (I was up to 215 for awhile) and my doctor has always laughed when I tell her I'm probably going to die any day now going by the obesity index. Go by what you see in the mirror, how you feel and, in the instance of your doc, how your blood pressure and blood work look. ;)

jag


You guys are like midgets. I'm only 14 and I'm almost 5'8 already.

[Cory]

ive killed for less

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You guys are like midgets. I'm only 14 and I'm almost 5'8 already.

Good for you

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Don't wait TOO long after waking to eat. Especially if you're lifting. You're already catabolic from not having eaten for so long and if your body is trying to heal itself from heavy weight training, you need the nutrition more than you need the empty-stomach cardio. I wouldn't wait until after class and then cardio to eat, personally. The downsides far outweigh the upsides.

jag


I go to the gym in the morning before I eat because I like to get there between 7-8am so if I eat say around 7-8am that means I have to wait until 9-11am before I can go to the gym. So I hit the gym then I eat as soon as I get home.

[Savage]

Yeah, I've seen that before. The number of guys who can't even do one bodyweight pullup or dip is astounding. When I walk up with 120 strapped on and do dips for reps with that weight it's fun to see their faces. :D

jagHey, don't start. I can do 3, maybe 4 pull ups on a good day. :csad:

[mrvlknight21]

Hey, don't start. I can do 3, maybe 4 pull ups on a good day. :csad:

If you want to improve those numbers, send me a PM.

[Cory]

i can do 3 sets of 10 pull ups... pullups in a row is diffrent tho :(

[The Joker_1000]

Good for you


Who asked you?

[theShape]

Who asked you?

Nobody? :huh:

You could ask that question to any of the thousands of users on this board that respond to posts. That's why we're here...to respond to whatever we want to. You should learn that. :up:

[theShape]

If you want to improve those numbers, send me a PM.

My PM's on the way...

[mrvlknight21]

My PM's on the way...

Just hit you back. let me know how it goes.

[mrvlknight21]

Shape, since you mentioned chinups too, you could switch between the 2 styles as needed.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nobody? :huh:

You could ask that question to any of the thousands of users on this board that respond to posts. That's why we're here...to respond to whatever we want to. You should learn that. :up:

:up:

[The Joker_1000]

Seriously, BAH HUMBUG!, I didn't say anything to you, so don't say anything to me. It's a simple concept, really.

[Cory]

hype fitness soap opera :wow:

[theShape]

hype fitness soap opera :wow:

Amen, brother.

[The Joker_1000]

Coming from the guy who's trying to start trouble in the Hulk forums.

[Cory]

you must be talking to the shape...

go lift some weights to ease the tension and anger

[Colossal Spoons]

Jesus

[The Joker_1000]

Anyway, just got done with my chest/tris work out so I'm about to do 10 minutes of cardio and then call it a day and go to sleep.

[The Joker_1000]

you must be talking to the shape...

go lift some weights to ease the tension and anger


Yeah, I was talking to shape, he basically just got pwned in the Hulk forums. It was pretty funny.

I just got done lifting weights, great work out.

[Cory]

Jesus

yes, how can i help you?

[theShape]

Coming from the guy who's trying to start trouble in the Hulk forums.

I don't try to start trouble, and I didn't get pwned. Maybe when you hit puberty you will understand this. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

yes, how can i help you?

Can you turn this thread's clock back like 3 months? :up:

[Cory]

3 months = absence of yours truly :cmad:

[The Joker_1000]

I don't try to start trouble, and I didn't get pwned. Maybe when you hit puberty you will understand this. :up:


Oh noes! I just got like pwned by da shape! i totally just got put in my place. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

3 months = absence of yours truly :cmad:

We'll have try-outs or something

[The Joker_1000]

We'll have try-outs or something


I'm done arguing.

Moving on, hey, Spoons, this month has really paid off for me. The new routine, less junk food, more cardio, it's all been doing wonders, my stomach is really getting flatter now from what I see in the mirror and soon full blown abs will be coming in. :word:

[jaguarr]

WTF is all this drama in here? Shut up and lift! :cmad:

jag

[Cory]

**lifts out of fear**

[The Joker_1000]

So, what do you guys do for a living anyway? Anything that relates to weightlifting?

[theShape]

WTF is all this drama in here? Shut up and lift! :cmad:

jag

Yes, jag :csad:... *walks over to bench*

[The Joker_1000]

Cory, I'm just curious, how long have you been working out? It seems like you're sort of new to this thread. Btw, what are your goals?

Mine is to look something like this guy, just maybe a little more defined:

http://www.**************.com/images/news/hulk-2/Lou%20Ferrigno%20as%20Incredible%20Hulk.jpg

[Savage]

**lifts out of fear**

*Remembers Carlton on The Fresh Prince screaming while doing Pec Deck Butterflys*

[Hush]

I think we should all have a vote on what can be talked about in this thread. There are paticular reasons I dont post in this thread as much. I think we should see them removed.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think we should all have a vote on what can be talked about in this thread. There are paticular reasons I dont post in this thread as much. I think we should see them removed.

Take a look at this thread 3 months ago. Let's try to get back to that :up:

[AndThePickles]

Take a look at this thread 3 months ago. Let's try to get back to that :up:

Haha, I wish.

[AndThePickles]

Some chick blushed and swooned at me in the gym just now when she saw me doing weighted dips. I'm not a cocky fellow by any means but having somebody ask "How do you do that!?" is quite the ego stroke :D

You neglected to tell me this fun fact about your day :o

[The Joker_1000]

I think we should all have a vote on what can be talked about in this thread. There are paticular reasons I dont post in this thread as much. I think we should see them removed.


See who removed? I didn't start this and I've opted to move on many times but he keeps bringing it up.

[mrvlknight21]

Haha, I wish.

Im with you.

[mrvlknight21]

See who removed? I didn't start this and I've opted to move on many times but he keeps bringing it up.

The "them" he referred to was the topics being discussed.

At least that's what I think..heck, I dont know, maybe he did mean you.

[Cory]

this is not the Hype Fitness Lounge...

tried the cardio this morning...i hated it....i got 35 min in before i was worn out. :(

and ive been working out for years, but i stopped for a while...

[jaguarr]

How about everyone just stops with the silly fighting and bickering in here? If you can do that, I'll keep coming in here and answering fitness related PM's. If the soap opera crap continues I'll cease on both counts.

jag

[NickSox]

How about everyone just stops with the silly fighting and bickering in here? If you can do that, I'll keep coming in here and answering fitness related PM's. If the soap opera crap continues I'll cease on both counts.

jag

I hope people listen to this as there has been alot that I and many others have learned through this thread. If we lost the people who keep this thread going with info and help, it would be shut down quickly. I think there are a wide range of people, personalities, ages, and fitness levels that post in here that could all learn alot. Leave the egos at the door and remember honest criticism and questions aren't trying to start anything, we're all here to help one another.

[Cory]

:up:

i wish i woulda known there was this thread months n months ago :(

just did cardio again today, 30 min on bike this morning, didnt do 45 min - an hour cause i was so hungry :cmad: so i went back after class did another 30.

[Cory]

I hope people listen to this as there has been alot that I and many others have learned through this thread. If we lost the people who keep this thread going with info and help, it would be shut down quickly. I think there are a wide range of people, personalities, ages, and fitness levels that post in here that could all learn alot. Leave the egos at the door and remember honest criticism and questions aren't trying to start anything, we're all here to help one another.

yes. with one common goal

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/hobgob11/f.jpg

:hehe:

[Hush]

The "them" he referred to was the topics being discussed.

At least that's what I think..heck, I dont know, maybe he did mean you.

I just meant the topics.

I also have found myself in the position to need to buy more weight due to my friend taking his back since he is well now and I found a deal for 300 pounds for 150 at Dick's sporting goods, good deal? Jag? Colossal?

[Cory]

you could prob order online somewhere for cheaper

[NickSox]

I just meant the topics.

I also have found myself in the position to need to buy more weight due to my friend taking his back since he is well now and I found a deal for 300 pounds for 150 at Dick's sporting goods, good deal? Jag? Colossal?

That's .50 cents a pound. I used to work at ***** and had seen it as cheap as .43 cents a pound. You might run into an issue with it being more expensive online unless you find somewhere with free shipping.

[The Joker_1000]

Do you guys happen to know anywhere where I can buy some steel weights? Btw, what size weights should I buy? The current weights I have have 8.8 lbs (two of them) and 14.3 (two of those as well) which I've all put on a 40 lb bar of steel. So, that would mean I'm lifting 85 lbs if you include the bar. How much higher should I go with the weights?

[Hoojibs]

Just look at any sports store around you. Dick's, Sport's Authority.

[The Joker_1000]

I want to look on the internet first. I like to know what I'm getting before actually going (well, as far as stuff like this is concerned).

[Hoojibs]

Uh, I'm sure you can look at it visually at these stores. :huh:

[NickSox]

Do you guys happen to know anywhere where I can buy some steel weights? Btw, what size weights should I buy? The current weights I have have 8.8 lbs (two of them) and 14.3 (two of those as well) which I've all put on a 40 lb bar of steel. So, that would mean I'm lifting 85 lbs if you include the bar. How much higher should I go with the weights?

If that's too easy for you to bench than def. move up. It's impossible to tell you how high to go as that is all in your hands. That's why I personally like going to the gym, all that stuff is there for you and buying everything can get expensive. Since you're young and will be moving/going to college and all that stuff I would advise you to join a gym.

[Hoojibs]

He's in High School, shouldn't he just use the equipment there at the school before or after school?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Take a look at this thread 3 months ago. Let's try to get back to that :up:

NO! Not until you start changing your avy again every 3-12 hours like the good old days. :up: :D

[NickSox]

He's in High School, shouldn't he just use the equipment there at the school before or after school?

If he's allowed access to it, it would be like a free gym so yes.

[Hoojibs]

Yeah, save your money.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Seriously, BAH HUMBUG!, I didn't say anything to you, so don't say anything to me. It's a simple concept, really.


All I said was good for you. I didn't insult you I simply stated good for you. If you take offense to that, it's your problem.

[mrvlknight21]

I just meant the topics.

I also have found myself in the position to need to buy more weight due to my friend taking his back since he is well now and I found a deal for 300 pounds for 150 at Dick's sporting goods, good deal? Jag? Colossal?

Thats about typical. Every now and then, you can find the same type set for about $120 (Olympic bar and weight totalling 300lbs). I usually see them more often for that price at Sports Authority and the like. Check for coupons too, often I see $25 off a purchase of $100 or more, stuff like that.
Now, you can check craigslist for your area, some people practically give away weight. I got a super power rack for $175 and that included the bar.
I have also found some steals at yard sales, check around!

[Colossal Spoons]

NO! Not until you start changing your avy again every 3-12 hours like the good old days. :up: :D

Haha. I can't do anything these days with TDK slowing down the boards :cmad:

[AndThePickles]

He's in High School, shouldn't he just use the equipment there at the school before or after school?

He's in middle school.

[Colossal Spoons]

I added a sweet potato to my usual meal of chicken and pasta/rice....I did not like it. I'll keep on eating them cuz I have to but they could not have been any worse tasting :down:

[The Joker_1000]

If he's allowed access to it, it would be like a free gym so yes.

I'm not in High School yet and even though I know I'm going to work out there if the school I go to allows it, I still want something to be able to work with at home.

[Cory]

I added a sweet potato to my usual meal of chicken and pasta/rice....I did not like it. I'll keep on eating them cuz I have to but they could not have been any worse tasting :down:

sweet potatoes are great with marshmallows n brown sugar :)

[Colossal Spoons]

Not in this thread, it isn't! :cmad:

[jaguarr]

Read a really interesting article this afternoon about how eating large amounts of raw red onion can improve your vascularity and blood-oxygen transport creating incredible vascularity and making you look PUMPED all the time. Unfortunately, my browser crashed just as I was getting to the end of it and I can't find the damn article again. :cmad: At any rate, they were recommending eating a whole red onion per day, preferably in once sitting, to maximize your resting state "pump" and vascularity and to truly gain the most out of your workouts and REALLY get a major pump from those. Found it interesting. Thought I'd share.

jag

[NickSox]

I'm not in High School yet and even though I know I'm going to work out there if the school I go to allows it, I still want something to be able to work with at home.

Well then you should up that weight that you posted about earlier. Do you have an olympic bar or one of those smaller ones? You prolly only need more weight for benching so go off of what you do now and figure how much more weight you need. Since starting back lifting in Jan. I have upped my bench by around 50lbs so if you were going to go off of that you should be able to up your collection for pretty cheap. And it'll get you by for a while.

[Sun_Down]

I added a sweet potato to my usual meal of chicken and pasta/rice....I did not like it. I'll keep on eating them cuz I have to but they could not have been any worse tasting :down:

Blasphemer!

[Cory]

a whole red onion a day = crazy gas and awful breath

haha walk around eating like an apple...that wont look wierd on campus :ninja:

[AndThePickles]

I added a sweet potato to my usual meal of chicken and pasta/rice....I did not like it. I'll keep on eating them cuz I have to but they could not have been any worse tasting :down:

Not surprised...I hate sweet potatoes.

[Captain Planet!]

I hate sweet potatoes too. Now mashed potatoes with gravy, are a different story.

[The Joker_1000]

Well then you should up that weight that you posted about earlier. Do you have an olympic bar or one of those smaller ones? You prolly only need more weight for benching so go off of what you do now and figure how much more weight you need. Since starting back lifting in Jan. I have upped my bench by around 50lbs so if you were going to go off of that you should be able to up your collection for pretty cheap. And it'll get you by for a while.

How much should I go up? I currently lift 85 lbs including the bar so I'm guessing I should go past 100 lbs now (50 lb weights each on each end of the bar).

[Bill]

Read a really interesting article this afternoon about how eating large amounts of raw red onion can improve your vascularity and blood-oxygen transport creating incredible vascularity and making you look PUMPED all the time. Unfortunately, my browser crashed just as I was getting to the end of it and I can't find the damn article again. :cmad: At any rate, they were recommending eating a whole red onion per day, preferably in once sitting, to maximize your resting state "pump" and vascularity and to truly gain the most out of your workouts and REALLY get a major pump from those. Found it interesting. Thought I'd share.

jag

Man, that's got April Fool's written all over it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Blasphemer!

Not surprised...I hate sweet potatoes.

Yeah, not a food I'd seek out at a restaurant but I gotta eat it :up:

[The Joker_1000]

I barely got through my work out yesterday, do I need to let my body rest or do I still need to keep up with my work out schedule?

[mrvlknight21]

Man you guys are nuts, sweet potatoes are awesome! Ill take them over regular potatoes anyday!

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh Lord, never thought I'd hear anybody say that!

[mrvlknight21]

I will say this whenever I eat a baked potato, I eat the whole thing, skin and all.

[AndThePickles]

I love regular potatoes. Sweet potatoes are only good in pie :o

[The Joker_1000]

I barely got through my work out yesterday, do I need to let my body rest or do I still need to keep up with my work out schedule?

Anyone?

[Colossal Spoons]

I will say this whenever I eat a baked potato, I eat the whole thing, skin and all.

Nah, I can't get down with the skin. My ideal regular potato isn't baked at all. Au Gratin FTW

[AndThePickles]

Nah, I can't get down with the skin. My ideal regular potato isn't baked at all. Au Gratin FTW

So yummy :csad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Haha. I can't do anything these days with TDK slowing down the boards :cmad:


Damn it!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I love regular potatoes. Sweet potatoes are only good in pie :o


You...are...trippin. That's right, I said it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Read a really interesting article this afternoon about how eating large amounts of raw red onion can improve your vascularity and blood-oxygen transport creating incredible vascularity and making you look PUMPED all the time. Unfortunately, my browser crashed just as I was getting to the end of it and I can't find the damn article again. :cmad: At any rate, they were recommending eating a whole red onion per day, preferably in once sitting, to maximize your resting state "pump" and vascularity and to truly gain the most out of your workouts and REALLY get a major pump from those. Found it interesting. Thought I'd share.

jag


Hmmm.....Ok. I really think Jag is ****ing with us on this one. :D

[The Joker_1000]

So, can anyone answer my question. *waits to be ignored*

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

What is your diet, sleep and workout like?

[The Joker_1000]

Well, basically, my routine is just like the one in jag's sig, if you've read it. If not, I work chest/tris on Monday, shoulders/legs on Wednesday, Abs/Biceps on Friday and cardio on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. I do eat junk food, I'm not going to lie, but I'll try to do enough cardio to work off previous calories so that I'm not adding on a bunch of weight which strangely works. My stomach usually looks sort of flat and it's much tighter than before I started my diet which I did for nearly two weeks straight. I also try to sleep for about seven to eight hours on days when I use weights but if not I stay up a little longer. For the most part I don't get eight hours but I need to start organizing weight training days so I get it done in time enough for me to get at least seven hours of sleep. What basically happened yesterday is I barely got through my work out and usually I can burst through Monday's work out pretty quick. I was wondering, should I take a break from weight training and focus on cardio or take a break from working out everywhere?

[Savage]

Hooraaay for increasing my weights today. :woot: Went from 100 lbs to shooting through 120 lbs (incline bench). I really wish I saw more of the results though. I mean yeah I can lift more, whoopee, but I'm really doing this to balance out my chest which is the one issue that's been nagging at me for years (along with the love handles. I really couldn't care less if I can see my six-pack).

[The Joker_1000]

Wait, so you don't really want a six pack?

[Superman79]

Hooraaay for increasing my weights today. :woot: Went from 100 lbs to shooting through 120 lbs (incline bench). I really wish I saw more of the results though. I mean yeah I can lift more, whoopee, but I'm really doing this to balance out my chest which is the one issue that's been nagging at me for years (along with the love handles. I really couldn't care less if I can see my six-pack).

Dumbells!?!? :wow:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well, basically, my routine is just like the one in jag's sig, if you've read it. If not, I work chest/tris on Monday, shoulders/legs on Wednesday, Abs/Biceps on Friday and cardio on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. I do eat junk food, I'm not going to lie, but I'll try to do enough cardio to work off previous calories so that I'm not adding on a bunch of weight which strangely works. My stomach usually looks sort of flat and it's much tighter than before I started my diet which I did for nearly two weeks straight. I also try to sleep for about seven to eight hours on days when I use weights but if not I stay up a little longer. For the most part I don't get eight hours but I need to start organizing weight training days so I get it done in time enough for me to get at least seven hours of sleep. What basically happened yesterday is I barely got through my work out and usually I can burst through Monday's work out pretty quick. I was wondering, should I take a break from weight training and focus on cardio or take a break from working out everywhere?

What do you eat? How many calories are you taking in? Amount of protein? Carbs? Fat? Ratio? How long do you do cardio for? What do you do for cardio? Are you lifting heavy weights and low reps lows sets? Are you lifting light weights high reps high sets? Are you lifting heavy weights high reps high sets?

How much is some junk food? A candy bar a day? A week? Do you log and keep track of your workouts?

It could just be due to the fact that you are growing and possibly putting your body under too much stress during growth.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, Savage is a beast!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Wait, so you don't really want a six pack?


A six-pack is generally just for looks.

[Savage]

Dumbells!?!? :wow:

Hell no. I'd have to be able to pick them up first. :oldrazz: I see those things sitting there just daring me in that corner of the gym.

[The Joker_1000]

What do you eat? How many calories are you taking in? Amount of protein? Carbs? Fat? Ratio? How long do you do cardio for? What do you do for cardio? Are you lifting heavy weights and low reps lows sets? Are you lifting light weights high reps high sets? Are you lifting heavy weights high reps high sets?

How much is some junk food? A candy bar a day? A week? Do you log and keep track of your workouts?

It could just be due to the fact that you are growing and possibly putting your body under too much stress during growth.


I try to take in at least close to 2000 calories but I haven't been keeping track lately. Also, I'm not big on keeping track of carbs, protein, fat, and ratio. As for cardio, I do it for at least 20-30 minutes & and I would say that I'm lifting heavy weights and I guess low reps since I'm only doing 10 per set.

I may have a few bags of chips in the morning (not everyday though). During the course of the day if I eat anymore junk food, I try to increase the time I do cardio to burn more calories that I've taken in earlier.

[Savage]

Wait, so you don't really want a six pack?

I can live without it. Just a flat stomach is fine with me. A real old school muscular look than today's so ripped I can see vains kind of deal. I just want to be flabless. My love handles seem to be the only part of my body that is like that while the rest of me is very much defined and it bugs the hell out of me.

[Sun_Down]

Wait, so you don't really want a six pack?

Around 18, I discovered how little the six-pack matters. It doesn't necessarily reflect core strength and the lady's care less and less about it as you get older.

[The Joker_1000]

A six-pack is generally just for looks.

So, the fact that my stomach is somewhat flat and I look a hell of a lot better in the mirror than two years ago without having a six pack doesn't mean I'm not in good shape, right? I used to think that a six pack showed how good of shape you're in but I now see it isn't. I kind of think I've overworked my abs more than any other part of my body.

[The Joker_1000]

Around 18, I discovered how little the six-pack matters. It doesn't necessarily reflect core strength and the lady's care less and less about it as you get older.


Hell, I stopped caring about having a six pack myself, I just want a tight core that is stronger than what it is now. Right now I'm really power hungry and all I care about is being in better shape and being the strongest I can be.

Btw, I've read that the healthier you are, the more it helps you grow (as in height, I mean). Is that true?

I can live without it. Just a flat stomach is fine with me. A real old school muscular look than today's so ripped I can see vains kind of deal. I just want to be flabless. My love handles seem to be the only part of my body that is like that while the rest of me is very much defined and it bugs the hell out of me.

I want a six pack but I still don't care about it as much. I'm more focused with seeing a more flat stomach with virtually no love handles as a six pack in no way tells you how good of shape you're in.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I try to take in at least close to 2000 calories but I haven't been keeping track lately. Also, I'm not big on keeping track of carbs, protein, fat, and ratio. As for cardio, I do it for at least 20-30 minutes & and I would say that I'm lifting heavy weights and I guess low reps since I'm only doing 10 per set.

I may have a few bags of chips in the morning (not everyday though). During the course of the day if I eat anymore junk food, I try to increase the time I do cardio to burn more calories that I've taken in earlier.

Ok firstly just hear me out. I am not attacking you but previously you have said that you know what you are doing and you know a lot about working out/physical fitness/exercise/weight training for your age or in general overall.

But...you don't keep track of carbs, protein, fat or their ratios? Ummm.....that is a pretty good indicator that you still are not informed enough and need people's help here more than you think. We don't know everything here but between us there is a lot you can learn. If you're willing to. I can see why Hush has butted heads with you in the past.

What is your goal? I read earlier that your goal is to look like the Hulk from the tv series, played by Lou Ferrigno but a little more defined. I am not sure if you were kidding or not, but if you want to build muscle and be big like say Jag or Spoons or Shadow Boxing. Well my friend you need to take some advice from the people here on the boards.

[Savage]

Abs just show how low your fat percentage is really. It's not much of an indicator that you're in good shape though. I've seen some pretty scrawny people with six-packs. If you look at most pro wrestlers (or...well...pro athletes in general really) the majority of them don't have six-packs. Just flat stomachs.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Abs just show how low your fat percentage is really. It's not much of an indicator that you're in good shape though. I've seen some pretty scrawny people with six-packs. If you look at most pro wrestlers (or...well...pro athletes in general really) the majority of them don't have six-packs. Just flat stomachs.


Yeah most pro athletes train for strength, explosiveness, etc. But some guys are capable of building a defined mid section while training that way. it's just their genetics.

[The Joker_1000]

Ok firstly just hear me out. I am not attacking you but previously you have said that you know what you are doing and you know a lot about working out/physical fitness/exercise/weight training for your age or in general overall.

But...you don't keep track of carbs, protein, fat or their ratios? Ummm.....that is a pretty good indicator that you still are not informed enough and need people's help here more than you think. We don't know everything here but between us there is a lot you can learn. If you're willing to. I can see why Hush has butted heads with you in the past.

What is your goal? I read earlier that your goal is to look like the Hulk from the tv series, played by Lou Ferrigno but a little more defined. I am not sure if you were kidding or not, but if you want to build muscle and be big like say Jag or Spoons or Shadow Boxing. Well my friend you need to take some advice from the people here on the boards.


I do know a lot but I know that I don't know everything and that I can still learn a lot, I just don't keep track of that stuff. However, I have been following nearly all of the advice I've gotten here which is evident through my progress. As for being as big as Lou Ferrigno, I would like to be that big as I get older and I know I'll need help along the way so it's all good. :word:

Abs just show how low your fat percentage is really. It's not much of an indicator that you're in good shape though. I've seen some pretty scrawny people with six-packs. If you look at most pro wrestlers (or...well...pro athletes in general really) the majority of them don't have six-packs. Just flat stomachs.

So, flat stomachs are better, right?

[Sun_Down]

Btw, I've read that the healthier you are, the more it helps you grow (as in height, I mean). Is that true?

Good nutrition will help you grow and develop properly :up:

[Savage]

So, flat stomachs are better, right?

Not necessarily better but yeah, a lower fat percentage is a good thing. The point is you don't need to be insanely ripped to be in good shape or even great shape. That stuff is just for show and chances are those body builders can't do half the crap that pro athletes do.

[The Joker_1000]

Good nutrition will help you grow and develop properly :up:


Well, I haven't been eating too much junk food lately and my results have been better so I know I'm doing something right.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I do know a lot but I know that I don't know everything and that I can still learn a lot, I just don't keep track of that stuff. However, I have been following nearly all of the advice I've gotten here which is evident through my progress. As for being as big as Lou Ferrigno, I would like to be that big as I get older and I know I'll need help along the way so it's all good. :word:

Ok, fair enough. Well personally to me it sounds like if you are getting that tired from working out, I would lower the intensity a little bit. But that is just my opinion. You are still young and growing obviously so you don't want to do anything to hurt your body right now being that it is a crucial, no the most crucial part in its development.

Nothing wrong with working out or working out hard, but don't exhaust yourself to the point where you are tired or weak the day after.

In order to make your muscle grow and develop you need to eat protein, lots of it. 1-2g per lb of body weight. So for you that means at least 160g of protein a day. Lots of carbs and good amount of healthy fat. That is if you want to get BIG.



So, flat stomachs are better, right?

Not better necessarily, it just depends on how you train and what you're training for. Read my above post.

[The Joker_1000]

Not necessarily better but yeah, a lower fat percentage is a good thing. The point is you don't need to be insanely ripped to be in good shape or even great shape. That stuff is just for show and chances are those body builders can't do half the crap that pro athletes do.


I don't even think most bodybuilders are as strong as pro athletes. Besides that, bodybuilders now are ridiculously big. It's sort of disgusting.

[The Joker_1000]

Ok, fair enough. Well personally to me it sounds like if you are getting that tired from working out, I would lower the intensity a little bit. But that is just my opinion. You are still young and growing obviously so you don't want to do anything to hurt your body right now being that it is a crucial, no the most crucial part in its development.

Nothing wrong with working out or working out hard, but don't exhaust yourself to the point where you are tired or weak the day after.

In order to make your muscle grow and develop you need to eat protein, lots of it. 1-2g per lb of body weight. So for you that means at least 160g of protein a day. Lots of carbs and good amount of healthy fat. That is if you want to get BIG.





Not better necessarily, it just depends on how you train and what you're training for. Read my above post.


I wasn't completely exhausted, I was just a little tired by the second set and I don't know why, I took three days off from any exercise just so that I wouldn't be tired and I still was. I'm not tired the day after but it's just weird how my energy was so low on Monday.

Right now I'm not really trying to get that big since I am only 14, I'm more focused on building up my strength now and getting into better shape. Then, once I get closer to the 18 year old range, I'll start packing on more mass.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I don't even think most bodybuilders are as strong as pro athletes. Besides that, bodybuilders now are ridiculously big. It's sort of disgusting.

Well it depends on what you're talking about. I doubt there are many pro athletes outside of linemen on pro football teams that can dead 800lbs and leg press over 2,000lbs.

But if they played any type of game they body builders would be hard pressed to keep up.

nW4NwoouA1E
uSNvEpH2L1o

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I wasn't completely exhausted, I was just a little tired by the second set and I don't know why, I took three days off from any exercise just so that I wouldn't be tired and I still was. I'm not tired the day after but it's just weird how my energy was so low on Monday.

Right now I'm not really trying to get that big since I am only 14, I'm more focused on building up my strength now and getting into better shape. Then, once I get closer to the 18 year old range, I'll start packing on more mass.

Sounds like you need to eat more protein and carbs.

[The Joker_1000]

Well it depends on what you're talking about. I doubt there are many pro athletes outside of linemen on pro football teams that can dead 800lbs and leg press over 2,000lbs.

But if they played any type of game they body builders would be hard pressed to keep up.

nW4NwoouA1E
uSNvEpH2L1o


I'm just saying, bodybuilders muscles are just for show (i.e Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman). One of the only bodybuilders I've seen who doesn't look like his muscles are for show is Lou Ferrigno, he had a pretty good build.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm just saying, bodybuilders muscles are just for show (i.e Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman). One of the only bodybuilders I've seen who doesn't look like his muscles are for show is Lou Ferrigno, he had a pretty good build.

Well, part of that is because he is from the Arnold era. These guys that compete today do things differently and it shows. I preferred the way Arnold and those guys were built compared to Coleman, Cutler myself as well.

[jaguarr]

Man, that's got April Fool's written all over it.

Hmmm.....Ok. I really think Jag is ****ing with us on this one. :D

I'm not sayin' if it's real or not until someone tries it. :ninja:

jag

[Superman79]

Hell no. I'd have to be able to pick them up first. :oldrazz: I see those things sitting there just daring me in that corner of the gym.

Oh, well I'm still happy for you...just not as impressed as I was ;)

I usually do presses with dumbells rather than barbells most of the time, so I automatically went there in my mind. Still, nice work Savage :up:

[Savage]

Hey, an improvement's an improvement. :oldrazz: I'm not trying to bench 800 lbs just yet but going from 100 lbs (I don't count the bar since I have no idea how much it weighs) to 120 is a big deal for me and even that feels kind of light so I may add another 20 next week. (Started with two 25s on each end then 25 + 35 and now to move on to 25 + 45).

Maybe I'm doing it wrong and can really lift more. Could be why I'm not seeing much physical development in the upper chest or even really feeling it hurt as badly as my other body parts.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey, an improvement's an improvement. :oldrazz: I'm not trying to bench 800 lbs just yet but going from 100 lbs (I don't count the bar since I have no idea how much it weighs) to 120 is a big deal for me and even that feels kind of light so I may add another 20 next week. (Started with two 25s on each end then 25 + 35 and now to move on to 25 + 45).

Maybe I'm doing it wrong and can really lift more. Could be why I'm not seeing much physical development in the upper chest or even really feeling it hurt as badly as my other body parts.

Is it an olympic bar? Is there any way you can weigh it on a scale?

[jaguarr]

A standard Oly bar weighs 45 pounds.

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

A standard Oly bar weighs 45 pounds.

jag

Yes, yes it does.

[Savage]

It's on a smith machine so I don't think I can take it out and weigh it. :oldrazz: If it really is 45 though, wow. Good to know I can bench way more than I thought.

[jaguarr]

Smith Machines are hard to calibrate on weight because of the fact that they're on a fixed plane, have mechanisms that affect friction, and take a lot of the balance out of the movement you'd be doing yourself otherwise. I personally avoid Smith Machines like the plague because they force you to use IT'S Range Of Motion instead of adapting to yours, which can cause injuries.

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Smith Machines are hard to calibrate on weight because of the fact that they're on a fixed plane, have mechanisms that affect friction, and take a lot of the balance out of the movement you'd be doing yourself otherwise. I personally avoid Smith Machines like the plague because they force you to use IT'S Range Of Motion instead of adapting to yours, which can cause injuries.

jag


Yeah I can tell a huge difference when I squat on the smith machine vs. free weights.

[Savage]

Yeah, my right arm was really feeling funky this one time I was using it. Have to adjust the seat just right and all. Felt like my shoulder was gonna pop out and I ended up in this awkward position for the last push.

I like it because I don't need a spotter though and the gym at school is just so damned busy.

[jaguarr]

Awkward positions that make your shoulder feel like it's going to pop out because you are obviously putting BAD strain on it > a need for a spot? :huh:

jag

[Savage]

Well it only happened once so I figured I'd just learn from my mistake and adjust it better. It's been great since then though.

[jaguarr]

Free weights > than Smith Machines for the vast majority of lifts. Aside from the reasons I listed above, freee weights also recruit support and motor muscles in order to hoist and balance the weight so you are working those as well as the primary target muscle group. Smith Machines do the job of the support and motor muscles for you so you don't get the benefit of working those when using the Smith. Aside from that, they do increase risk of injury by forcing you to follow it's Range Of Motion. Better to back the weight off to a manageable level and use the free weights, IMHO.

jag

[Cory]

just killed my shoulders n legs... damn you jag :cmad:

the 10 minutes on the bike afterwards was killer.

jag, my should press machine has 2 different pairs of handles. one makes you lift pretty much straight up, but the pair closest to me feels like its behind my head some on the lifts... which is better? or does it not matter?

[Superman79]

Free weights > than Smith Machines for the vast majority of lifts. Aside from the reasons I listed above, freee weights also recruit support and motor muscles in order to hoist and balance the weight so you are working those as well as the primary target muscle group. Smith Machines do the job of the support and motor muscles for you so you don't get the benefit of working those when using the Smith. Aside from that, they do increase risk of injury by forcing you to follow it's Range Of Motion. Better to back the weight off to a manageable level and use the free weights, IMHO.

jag

agreed...save the smith for light burnout sets after the bulk of your work is done (at least thats what I do)

dumbell bench/incline FTW!! :woot:

[jaguarr]

just killed my shoulders n legs... damn you jag :cmad:

the 10 minutes on the bike afterwards was killer.

jag, my should press machine has 2 different pairs of handles. one makes you lift pretty much straight up, but the pair closest to me feels like its behind my head some on the lifts... which is better? or does it not matter?

Lift straight up. Behind the head exercises for presses or pull-ups are a no-no. WAY too much strain on the rotator cuffs.

jag

[jaguarr]

agreed...save the smith for light burnout sets after the bulk of your work is done (at least thats what I do)

dumbell bench/incline FTW!! :woot:

*whispers something about dumping the Smith for burnout sets and trying X-Reps with free weights instead to Supes*

jag

[Superman79]

*whispers something about dumping the Smith for burnout sets and trying X-Reps with free weights instead to Supes*

jag

oh, I've done that too...and prefer it...it's just some days after a long week and a hard chest workout, I get a bit lazy and let the machine do a bit of the work (read, balancing) for me. Am I proud of it? no. Do I do it often? no.

[jaguarr]

SMH @ Supes79.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

299g of protein yesterday :up:

46g short of my new goal though :(

[The Joker_1000]

Well, part of that is because he is from the Arnold era. These guys that compete today do things differently and it shows. I preferred the way Arnold and those guys were built compared to Coleman, Cutler myself as well.


Yeah, because they seemed to have more respect for the business. These guys now just think all about the money. Sure, you should want to make money but I firmly believe that whatever you're involved in you need to have a passion for it.

Hey, an improvement's an improvement. :oldrazz: I'm not trying to bench 800 lbs just yet but going from 100 lbs (I don't count the bar since I have no idea how much it weighs) to 120 is a big deal for me and even that feels kind of light so I may add another 20 next week. (Started with two 25s on each end then 25 + 35 and now to move on to 25 + 45).

Maybe I'm doing it wrong and can really lift more. Could be why I'm not seeing much physical development in the upper chest or even really feeling it hurt as badly as my other body parts.

I understand you completely. Once I went from 20 to 26 lbs late last year, I felt really happy because I was getting starting with a new amount of weight. Then, I went from 26 to close to 50 lbs (not including the bar) which was a bit strain on my body for a while but I kept lifting those weights until I got stronger and eventually I got strong enough to lift them no sweat. It's all about having patience and working hard to achieve said desired results.

As I told you before, just keep working at it, no matter what current imperfections you have. You're still doing great from what I can tell. :word:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

299g of protein yesterday :up:

46g short of my new goal though :(


Do work son:up:

[Cory]

just took a self pic....

after a few days of jags workout ...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/hobgob11/leonidas.jpg

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

just took a self pic....

after a few days of jags workout ...

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/hobgob11/leonidas.jpg

Hurry, edit, edit, edit. Jag will not be happy.

:D

[Colossal Spoons]

Quickly man!

[jaguarr]

The 300 Workout is ****E!!!!! :cmad:

jag

[The Joker_1000]

Will be starting shoulder/legs work out in less than five minutes, what about you all?

[Colossal Spoons]

Shoulders/legs in ~30 mins

I'm hurtin though. Had lunch at 5, gotta digest, and still got supplements to take. Hope I make it to the gym before I have to go to work :(

[Cory]

The 300 Workout is ****E!!!!! :cmad:

jag

why so? i havent seen the workout, but it couldnt be too bad for results like that can it?


Will be starting shoulder/legs work out in less than five minutes, what about you all?

your a pretty disciplined 14 year old.

[Colossal Spoons]

why so? i havent seen the workout, but it couldnt be too bad for results like that can it?

Aw, man. You shoulda been here a few months ago. Let's see if jag can answer your question with as few swear words as possible :D

[Cory]

Aw, man. You shoulda been here a few months ago. Let's see if jag can answer your question with as few swear words as possible :D

**runs and hides**

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Aw, man. You shoulda been here a few months ago. Let's see if jag can answer your question with as few swear words as possible :D

HA hahahahaha......hahahaha....wait.....hahahaha :up:

[jaguarr]

why so? i havent seen the workout, but it couldnt be too bad for results like that can it?



OVERTRAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cmad:

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Here's the video if you want to watch it.

ggiYjRelWgc

[Colossal Spoons]

Seriously, this digestion thing is taking way too long. I might have to make today my day off :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Exlax :up: :D

[jaguarr]

Seriously, this digestion thing is taking way too long. I might have to make today my day off :(

Walk it off!! (Seriously, go for a brisk 30 minute walk. It'll help.)

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

My lunch was pretty heavy. Chicken, pasta, and a sweet potato again.

[Cory]

wow how many times a week did they do that workout?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Six days a week as far as I know.

[Colossal Spoons]

I bet those guys were catching colds left and right

[jaguarr]

Six days a week as far as I know.

With a specialized diet and LOTS and LOTS of rest so they could recover in time to do it all over again the next day. If you've got time to do nothing but sleep, eat and workout you can get results like that, too.

jag

[jaguarr]

I bet those guys were catching colds left and right

They were probably pumped full of so much L-Glutamine and other assorted goodies that germs died on contact with their skin.

jag

[Cory]

wow thats ridiculous

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

They were probably pumped full of so much L-Glutamine and other assorted goodies that germs died on contact with their skin.

jag

Germs die on contact with my skin regardless. :up: :D

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

With a specialized diet and LOTS and LOTS of rest so they could recover in time to do it all over again the next day. If you've got time to do nothing but sleep, eat and workout you can get results like that, too.

jag

Yes that's true. Not to mention they had all sorts of personal trainers and extensive resources at their disposals.

[jaguarr]

I can't wait until Devil sees the talk of the 300 Workout in here again. He's going to lose his s***. You think I hate that workout? You ain't seen nothin', yet! :D What was hilarious was all the kids in the 300 forums trying to this workout. Strangely, none of them posted before and after results after arguing until the ends of the earth that it was going to make them RIPPED!!!!!!1111one!!! They all quit talking about it, strangely. I guess they found out that it's not sustainable for an extended period, doesn't produce the results it promises on it's own without the special diet and supplements the 300 crew was using (and is kept secret by the trainers) or time to do nothing but sleep, eat and work out.

There are NO shortcuts. Period.

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I can't wait until Devil sees the talk of the 300 Workout in here again. He's going to lose his s***. You think I hate that workout? You ain't seen nothin', yet! :D What was hilarious was all the kids in the 300 forums trying to this workout. Strangely, none of them posted before and after results after arguing until the ends of the earth that it was going to make them RIPPED!!!!!!1111one!!! They all quit talking about it, strangely. I guess they found out that it's not sustainable for an extended period, doesn't produce the results it promises on it's own without the special diet and supplements the 300 crew was using (and is kept secret by the trainers) or time to do nothing but sleep, eat and work out.

There are NO shortcuts. Period.

jag


Word :up:

[The Joker_1000]

Some guys tried to argue me down that if I did the 300 work out I'd barely be able to breath and I'd wish I were ready to die. Yeah, right.

[Savage]

You probably would, yeah, but I guess that's a good thing?:huh:

[The Joker_1000]

why so? i havent seen the workout, but it couldnt be too bad for results like that can it?




your a pretty disciplined 14 year old.


Thanks, I added in some extra exercises like jumping jacks which I did in between each set and some push-ups and sit-ups at the end of the exercise, once I finished all of my leg/shoulder work outs. I didn't want to exercise for less than 20 minutes so all in all, with stretches added in, I'd say I worked out for at least 22-24 minutes. I felt great and I wasn't tired at all until I got to the end of the work out.

[The Joker_1000]

You probably would, yeah, but I guess that's a good thing?:huh:

Basically what I'm trying to say is they were trying to make the work out to be tougher than it probably really is. From what I read, it doesn't sound like a tough work out at all.

[Savage]

Have you seen the workout? It is the very definition of overwork.

[The Joker_1000]

I know, but I still didn't really think it sounded all that tough but maybe that's just me.

[Savage]

I'll tell you one thing: It's great for endurance training. I can see it being used in the military or a martial arts class or something.

[Colossal Spoons]

Some guys tried to argue me down that if I did the 300 work out I'd barely be able to breath and I'd wish I were ready to die. Yeah, right.

Basically what I'm trying to say is they were trying to make the work out to be tougher than it probably really is. From what I read, it doesn't sound like a tough work out at all.

Testosterone talking lol

[The Joker_1000]

I'll tell you one thing: It's great for endurance training. I can see it being used in the military or a martial arts class or something.


Ya know, I've thought of taking martial arts training and I may do so after I enter High School.

[Savage]

Start as soon as possible. The earlier the better. I started when I was about your age and I still wish I was one of those guys who could brag they started at 7.

[mrvlknight21]

With a specialized diet and LOTS and LOTS of rest so they could recover in time to do it all over again the next day. If you've got time to do nothing but sleep, eat and workout you can get results like that, too.

jag

That wasnt even their workout. That was their "test" that they did every now and then to see how they progressed. They probably only did it every week or two.
Bunch of freaking bull*****!!!! I hate Hollywood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I love 300, releasing this "information" was the worst mistake ever!!

Anyone could look like those guys....but dont expect that workout to get you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, Joker 1000, I seriously doubt you could even complete that freaking workout. No disrespect, but there are few people who can do the 25 straight pullups and 50 straight pushup portions alone and those are just a few of the exercises that you are expected to go straight through and complete without rest.

[The Joker_1000]

Well, I'm more focused on working out right now but I'm deciding if I actually want to do it. That's why I said I'll wait until High School.

[Savage]

Well, I'm more focused on working out right now but I'm deciding if I actually want to do it. That's why I said I'll wait until High School.

Ah. Well it is definitely good, intense, calisthenic work and with the way you're dieting it should keep the fat low. I always ate like a pig and never went above 180 because of it (until I started going less frequently) so it should keep things in balance and keep that six pack there.

[The Joker_1000]

That was why I wasn't gaining any weight and I was still getting in shape despite of eating junk food (because I was doing a lot of exercise).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

That wasnt even their workout. That was their "test" that they did every now and then to see how they progressed. They probably only did it every week or two.
Bunch of freaking bull*****!!!! I hate Hollywood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As much as I love 300, releasing this "information" was the worst mistake ever!!

Anyone could look like those guys....but dont expect that workout to get you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, Joker 1000, I seriously doubt you could even complete that freaking workout. No disrespect, but there are few people who can do the 25 straight pullups and 50 straight pushup portions alone and those are just a few of the exercises that you are expected to go straight through and complete without rest.

Word, it may not be an ideal or good workout program. But that doesn't mean that **** is easy.

[mrvlknight21]

No, it is definitely a tough one to complete. But it just isnt beneficial as a regular workout.

[Hush]

They did alot of circuit training in the 300 work out from what i have seen and it just gets you skinny and toned which I guess if you want that go for it , but I participated in a circuit training experience over the summer and winter and found it very not for me. I like high weight low reps lol big numbers make me happy. Plus alot of people don't realize that Gerard worked with a Brazillian Body Builder as well.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

They did alot of circuit training in the 300 work out from what i have seen and it just gets you skinny and toned which I guess if you want that go for it , but I participated in a circuit training experience over the summer and winter and found it very not for me. I like high weight low reps lol big numbers make me happy. Plus alot of people don't realize that Gerard worked with a Brazillian Body Builder as well.


Which is why he does look a little bigger than the other guys, but supposedly that was only for the last month of training.

[Jesster32388]

I got a question

What's more effective to lose weight, Running on a tread mill or some kind of running every day for about 30 mins mixed with some weight lifting every other day

or weight lifting mixed with sit ups and push ups. I ask because I tried the later before and it worked pretty well. But I just wanted other peoples opinions on it

[Cory]

go here. its all u need :) http://jaguarr.spymac.com/BBbasics.htm

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I got a question

What's more effective to lose weight, Running on a tread mill or some kind of running every day for about 30 mins mixed with some weight lifting every other day

or weight lifting mixed with sit ups and push ups. I ask because I tried the later before and it worked pretty well. But I just wanted other peoples opinions on it


My body works best when I lift then run, if I run first then lift I am too fatigued and can not lift as much or as hard. This is usually true as well for most people.

According to articles the best way to lose weight is to run intervals. Say around a track, you would sprint the short curves then jog the long stretches. Or on a tread mill sprint for 30 seconds then jog for two minutes and mix it up so forth.

The best indicator usually is sweating, (but for people like me which may have to do with my metabolism) I sweat almost instantly upon any type of semi intensive cardio activity.

Make sure your target heart rate is up high enough to burn fat, around 65%.

[Jesster32388]

My body works best when I lift then run, if I run first then lift I am too fatigued and can not lift as much or as hard. This is usually true as well for most people.

According to articles the best way to lose weight is to run intervals. Say around a track, you would sprint the short curves then jog the long stretches. Or on a tread mill sprint for 30 seconds then jog for two minutes and mix it up so forth.

The best indicator usually is sweating, (but for people like me which may have to do with my metabolism) I sweat almost instantly upon any type of semi intensive cardio activity.

Make sure your target heart rate is up high enough to burn fat, around 65%.

When I run my hear rate is pretty high when I run. So running that about 30 mins after lifting is good? Also the days I don't lift should I still do 30 mins I should I compensate and run like 40 or 50 mins?

[Cory]

after u lift cardio for like 10-15 minutes...on cardio days do 45 to an hour

[Jesster32388]

Thanks for the info

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

When I run my hear rate is pretty high when I run. So running that about 30 mins after lifting is good? Also the days I don't lift should I still do 30 mins I should I compensate and run like 40 or 50 mins?

You don't want your heart rate too high. 60-65% will get you into the fat burning zone, 75-80% will get you into the cardio zone.

[jaguarr]

go here. its all u need :) http://jaguarr.spymac.com/BBbasics.htm

Haha! I've created a monster. :D :up:

jag

[Savage]

Hey, any of you know how to get rid of that bloated stomach look? You know where your stomach is just big and rock hard? I really hate it and of course it's only worse when I eat. It's like I have to starve myself for the damn thing to stay at a manageable, i.e. flat, size (and no I don't drink so it's definitely not a beer gut). I feel like a mule can kick it and it'd have no effect.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey, any of you know how to get rid of that bloated stomach look? You know where your stomach is just big and rock hard? I really hate it and of course it's only worse when I eat. It's like I have to starve myself for the damn thing to stay at a manageable, i.e. flat, size (and no I don't drink so it's definitely not a beer gut). I feel like a mule can kick it and it'd have no effect.

Not sure if I will explain this the right way. But essentially you need to train your inner abdominal muscles. The most popular exercise I have seen for this is the vacuum exercise technique although I am sure there are many others.

Jag could probably explain better.

[jaguarr]

Hey, any of you know how to get rid of that bloated stomach look? You know where your stomach is just big and rock hard? I really hate it and of course it's only worse when I eat. It's like I have to starve myself for the damn thing to stay at a manageable, i.e. flat, size (and no I don't drink so it's definitely not a beer gut). I feel like a mule can kick it and it'd have no effect.

I don't know that stomach vacuums, as Bah suggested, are going to help you. It might, but may not, either. This could be a result of your diet or even genetics. Can you map out your diet for me?

jag

[Cory]

speaking of diet...i was reading online earlier and it said if u work out, someone my size should consume over 2000 calories a day.

i mean thats a ton for me. :(

[jaguarr]

speaking of diet...i was reading online earlier and it said if u work out, someone my size should consume over 2000 calories a day.

i mean thats a ton for me. :(

Yup. It'll likely be more than 2000 calories depending on your height and weight, age, and fitness level. Did you use the calculators in the diet section of my sig to figure out your ideal caloric intake and macronutrient split, yet? You wanna be big, it takes fuel.

jag

[Cory]

Yup. It'll likely be more than 2000 calories depending on your height and weight, age, and fitness level. Did you use the calculators in the diet section of my sig to figure out your ideal caloric intake and macronutrient split, yet? You wanna be big, it takes fuel.

jag

yea thats where i get most of my info :)

just seems wierd...people say stay away from calories, now i need 2500 of em! i dont care so much as being bulky as much as have lean muscle (baseball)

[jaguarr]

Muscle requires fuel, aka food, regardless of what type of muscle you are trying to build. :)

jag

[Cory]

well then.

**stuffs face for 2500 calories**

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I don't know that stomach vacuums, as Bah suggested, are going to help you. It might, but may not, either. This could be a result of your diet or even genetics. Can you map out your diet for me?

jag


This is what I was walking about Cory and Jag. Not sure how effective it is since I don't really incorporate it. I've done them before but not for more than two or three weeks at one time.

But I don't really have a problem with how far my stomach extends.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=stomach+vacuum

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

speaking of diet...i was reading online earlier and it said if u work out, someone my size should consume over 2000 calories a day.

i mean thats a ton for me. :(

Ask Jag how much he eats.......and spends on food monthly :up: :D.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

well then.

**stuffs face for 2500 calories**


Use fitday.com if you haven't already to track your food intake. :up:

[Cory]

the way i eat now, i wake up....eat a bowl of cereal. maybe an apple between breakfast and lunch...a lean cuisine for lunch (im a broke college student :cmad:) then from about 130 on i eat grapes, apples, carrots or broccoli to snack on til i eat dinner...dinner is usually a big salad with meat, or a 6 inch on wheat sub.

if i eat a early dinner ill have a snack of fruit or vegetables later.

all i drink is water, well water and the milk with the cereal....basically i get about 80-90 oz of water a day.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

the way i eat now, i wake up....eat a bowl of cereal. maybe an apple between breakfast and lunch...a lean cuisine for lunch (im a broke college student :cmad:) then from about 130 on i eat grapes, apples, carrots or broccoli to snack on til i eat dinner...dinner is usually a big salad with meat, or a 6 inch on wheat sub.

if i eat a early dinner ill have a snack of fruit or vegetables later.

all i drink is water, well water and the milk with the cereal....basically i get about 80-90 oz of water a day.

Well if you're a broke college student pasta, oatmeal and tuna are cheap and good sources of carbs, protein and calories :up:

Also try to get your hands on this if you can.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html

Their prices have gone up but a lot of people here use it and like it :up:

Just don't get Vanilla, Jag warned me and I didn't listen. Bad idea, I still have 5lbs left of this crap :down:

[Cory]

vanilla does sound gross

[jaguarr]

This is what I was walking about Cory and Jag. Not sure how effective it is since I don't really incorporate it. I've done them before but not for more than two or three weeks at one time.

But I don't really have a problem with how far my stomach extends.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=stomach+vacuum


Vacuums are a good stomach exercise, but I don't know that they'd really flatten your stomach, to be honest.

Ask Jag how much he eats.......and spends on food monthly :up: :D.

Eating ~3200 calories a day right now. Was up to ~4000 calories for awhile, but I've backed it off a bit. Yeah...it ain't cheap, but we buy a lot of food in bulk and don't eat processed food (or eat out very often, either) so it helps keep the costs down

Use fitday.com if you haven't already to track your food intake. :up:

:up:

the way i eat now, i wake up....eat a bowl of cereal. maybe an apple between breakfast and lunch...a lean cuisine for lunch (im a broke college student :cmad:) then from about 130 on i eat grapes, apples, carrots or broccoli to snack on til i eat dinner...dinner is usually a big salad with meat, or a 6 inch on wheat sub.

if i eat a early dinner ill have a snack of fruit or vegetables later.

all i drink is water, well water and the milk with the cereal....basically i get about 80-90 oz of water a day.

Breakfast ought to be some complex carbs (oatmeal) and protein (eggs or a protein shake). Lean Cuisine's are crap; full of preservatives and junk. How about some boiled eggs, lean low-sodium lunch meat on HFCS-free whole-wheat bread, some fruit and some cheese? Veggies are good snacks, but a good protein shake will help fill in the blanks on those, as Bah suggested. As for dinner, it sounds like you're buying that pre-made from a restaurant some place. Why not buy some bulk frozen chicken, some bulk rice, some bulk beans, and cook your own dinners? It'll be cheaper and more nutritious.

jag

[The Joker_1000]

Yup. It'll likely be more than 2000 calories depending on your height and weight, age, and fitness level. Did you use the calculators in the diet section of my sig to figure out your ideal caloric intake and macronutrient split, yet? You wanna be big, it takes fuel.

jag


Yep, it's true. That's what I at least try to shoot for eating over 3000 calories. There's no downside to that for me, I love eating. :word: :hehe:

[Cory]

Vacuums are a good stomach exercise, but I don't know that they'd really flatten your stomach, to be honest.



Eating ~3200 calories a day right now. Was up to ~4000 calories for awhile, but I've backed it off a bit. Yeah...it ain't cheap, but we buy a lot of food in bulk and don't eat processed food (or eat out very often, either) so it helps keep the costs down



:up:



Breakfast ought to be some complex carbs (oatmeal) and protein (eggs or a protein shake). Lean Cuisine's are crap; full of preservatives and junk. How about some boiled eggs, lean low-sodium lunch meat on HFCS-free whole-wheat bread, some fruit and some cheese? Veggies are good snacks, but a good protein shake will help fill in the blanks on those, as Bah suggested. As for dinner, it sounds like you're buying that pre-made from a restaurant some place. Why not buy some bulk frozen chicken, some bulk rice, some bulk beans, and cook your own dinners? It'll be cheaper and more nutritious.

jag

you need a sams club card my friend :up:

i would love to cook my own dinners, but we arent allowed toaster ovens, microwaves, stoves, hell anything in the dorms...when im at me and my fiances apartment i have a completely different diet :(

[jaguarr]

Got a Sam's Club card. Costco, too. :up: At any rate, get creative. Make food for the week in advance and keep it in your frig in your dorm room. Surely the student cafeteria has some dining options you could take advantage of as well.

jag

[Cory]

Got a Sam's Club card. Costco, too. :up: At any rate, get creative. Make food for the week in advance and keep it in your frig in your dorm room. Surely the student cafeteria has some dining options you could take advantage of as well.

jag

problem with that is, the cafeteria food is terrible.

i need to go to trader joes and sams :oldrazz:

i could have a small toaster oven hidden in my dorm :twisted:

[The Joker_1000]

Btw, just a quick question? How long have you been in college? Have you tried getting a job yet?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Terrible taste? Or terrible for you?

[The Joker_1000]

More than likely terrible taste.

[Cory]

Btw, just a quick question? How long have you been in college? Have you tried getting a job yet?

graduate in december...so 4 1/2 years. i work for my dad on weekends sometime. i play baseball so i dont have much time to work...its paying for my education so yeah. my fiance graduated a couple months ago and has a good job tho.

[The Joker_1000]

Sounds like you're doing pretty good! Keep up the good work!

[Savage]

I don't know that stomach vacuums, as Bah suggested, are going to help you. It might, but may not, either. This could be a result of your diet or even genetics. Can you map out your diet for me?

jag

Well let's see.

Breakfast
Cereal or oatmeal interchangeably with orange juice and a fruit or yogurt interchangeably

Lunch
Depending on what they are serving at school I alter between pasta, meatballs, chicken fries/"chicken fingers", or lasagna and some lemonade.

Dinner
Usually either chicken breasts, chicken nuggets, rice, or a combination of the three. Sometimes I'm in the mood for hot dogs though. All of these I eat in LARGE amount when I do. For example when I eat hot dogs there's about 6 or when I eat chicken breasts or nuggets I pile them on and go to town with the ketchup next to me. Grapefruit juice to wash it down. I love my citrus.

Snacks
Whenever I'm hungry I grab a fruit or yogurt or both at times depending on how hungry I am.

Weekends when I'm out with my friends or something I'll head over to Subways and and get a footlong pepperoni, cheddar, pickles, and spicey mustard sub. Throw in a cookie and a small lemonade. About once a month I'll head over to Burger King or Dominos though. Get a large pepperoni pizza all to myself or a triple whopper and chicken fries with some sprite.

I tend to eat in bulk a lot (like the entire thing of bananas for a snack). This is as in depth with my diet as I can get. :oldrazz: My stomach is definitely not flabby but I hate the way it sticks out past my chest (like the top part of my stomach). And when I eat it looks like an alien's going to pop out right in the middle of my torso or something.

[The Joker_1000]

I have a question: If I ate junk food yesterday and then do a workout and then eat junk food the next day and do cardio, what am I working off? Yesterday's junk food, today's junk food, or both?

[Cory]

got biceps n back tomorrow morning :up:

[The Joker_1000]

Do you think you can answer my question, Cory?

Btw, I have biceps/abs tomorrow too, got a good cardio work out today as well

[Colossal Spoons]

I have a question: If I ate junk food yesterday and then do a workout and then eat junk food the next day and do cardio, what am I working off? Yesterday's junk food, today's junk food, or both?

It really is a non-issue to try to figure out what day's junk food you're "working off". During your cardio, you'll be burning whatever fat has accumulate up to that point.