The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[hey yo its sean]

I've decided that after school ends, i'm going to train to be a triathlete.

[user123456789]

I've decided that after school ends, i'm going to train to be a triathlete.

which three?

[Colossal Spoons]

Boyscout, I do your shoulder workout exactly :up:

[hey yo its sean]

which three?
Swimming, cycling, and running.

[Victor Von Doom]

I don't think i'm stretching my legs properly. I've been upping the weight on my leg days, and no matter how long i stretch, my calf muscle stays sore for days and days up untill the next workout.

Any ideas.

[Mr. Credible]

i just put up 810 on the squat machine. i was impressed with myself, given my bum knees and all.

not sure why this belongs here, but... yeah.

[Mr. Credible]

oh, and i do lose 5-10 pounds a week doing the low-carb thing. i eat little to no carbs, tons of protein, go to the gym twice a day, for a total of about 2 hours, take supplements, and ride my bike for about 2-4 hours a day. i figured all in all i burn 4,000 calories a day, more than a fat calorie/whatever you call it, so losing a pound of fat a day isn't so out of the question, especially when my body is in hardcore ketosis from the diet.

[Iceman]

oh, and i do lose 5-10 pounds a week doing the low-carb thing. i eat little to no carbs, tons of protein, go to the gym twice a day, for a total of about 2 hours, take supplements, and ride my bike for about 2-4 hours a day. i figured all in all i burn 4,000 calories a day, more than a fat calorie/whatever you call it, so losing a pound of fat a day isn't so out of the question, especially when my body is in hardcore ketosis from the diet.:eek: That's a lot of training for one day.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, are you training for something?

[hey yo its sean]

oh, and i do lose 5-10 pounds a week doing the low-carb thing. i eat little to no carbs, tons of protein, go to the gym twice a day, for a total of about 2 hours, take supplements, and ride my bike for about 2-4 hours a day. i figured all in all i burn 4,000 calories a day, more than a fat calorie/whatever you call it, so losing a pound of fat a day isn't so out of the question, especially when my body is in hardcore ketosis from the diet.
Screw how much you weigh, how do you look? How do you feel?

[user123456789]

Boyscout, I do your shoulder workout exactly :up:

it's kick ass

[Victor Von Doom]

oh, and i do lose 5-10 pounds a week doing the low-carb thing. i eat little to no carbs, tons of protein, go to the gym twice a day, for a total of about 2 hours, take supplements, and ride my bike for about 2-4 hours a day. i figured all in all i burn 4,000 calories a day, more than a fat calorie/whatever you call it, so losing a pound of fat a day isn't so out of the question, especially when my body is in hardcore ketosis from the diet.

I'm just impressed that your body can hold up for so long on the bike with so little carbs, but then again i'm an ecto so i gotta have em or exercise is out of the question.

[enterthemadness]

My bench max this past semster in weight lifting was 145 pounds. When I cut back on my pushups, it dropped 10 pounds. I had trouble getting 130 and 135 while working out. When I started doing more pushups, I could get 130 3 out of 5 times and 135 two out of five times. The frustrating thing is that I got 145 on my second bench max. (Which I think was in late Feb or early March?) I went the rest of the year not going up. :( Two years ago, my squat max was 200, but this year it was a lousy 180. I guess I just didn't want it enough in that area.

[Mentok]

Guys I need to work on my upper back... Any suggestions?

[Tangled Web]

no access to a barbell and some weights? pushups are useless
Are they really?

Sometimes when I do pushups I hear cracks in my elbows or shoulders, it really bugs me.

:confused:

[Mr. Credible]

Screw how much you weigh, how do you look? How do you feel?

i look better everyday. i'm definately getting to where i need to be. i mean, i've never been fat, i just had a major gut brought on by years of drinking and lazyness.

and i take enough time off of the gym (i only lift on mon-wed-and fri) and 1 or 2 days a week off of the bike riding as to not burn myself out. it sounds like alot, i know, but if a lazy guy like me can do all that, then it's not that much.

[Mr. Credible]

now, if only i could stick to the diet for more than a week at a time, because that's when you really start shedding lbs. i party too much and drink too much beer. so, unfortunetely, i'm just kind of hovering right now around 200 lbs. oh well.

[Ongie]

I'm with you, Mr. Credible... The beer is killing my diet.

[Ongie]

Any ideas on how to ween oneself from said brew?

[Iceman]

now, if only i could stick to the diet for more than a week at a time, because that's when you really start shedding lbs. i party too much and drink too much beer. so, unfortunetely, i'm just kind of hovering right now around 200 lbs. oh well.You need to stick to a sensible diet for the long term. Otherwise you can reverse any short term gains that you make.

You're certainly doing enough on the exercise front.

[Mr. Credible]

yeah, i hear you. this diet is just a quick wayto drop some lbs. and i'm eating more than enough protein, so i'm not losing any muscle mass or anything. after i've lost what i want, i go back to a normal, healthy diet.

[Mr. Credible]

Any ideas on how to ween oneself from said brew?

well, i've been slowly switching to hard alcohol, so there's no empty calories or carbs... i'm not sure that it's all that much healthier for you, though. either way you cut it, if your body has alcohol in it's system, it won't burn fat until it's rid of it.

[Ongie]

Very true, very true..
I suppose all one can do is set aside room for those calories in his or her diet.

[jaguarr]

oh, and i do lose 5-10 pounds a week doing the low-carb thing. i eat little to no carbs, tons of protein, go to the gym twice a day, for a total of about 2 hours, take supplements, and ride my bike for about 2-4 hours a day. i figured all in all i burn 4,000 calories a day, more than a fat calorie/whatever you call it, so losing a pound of fat a day isn't so out of the question, especially when my body is in hardcore ketosis from the diet.

Sorry, but I call bull****. It is physically impossible to lose 5-10 pounds of bodyfat in a week unless you're using liposuction. Even losing 3-4 pounds of bodyfat in a week is quite a feat, ketosis or not, and even that is not sustainable or healthy. Fat loss of one pound per week requires a caloric deficit of 500 calories per day, whether from a 500 caloric deficit in your diet, or a combination of intake deficit plus exercise (250 caloric diet deficit plus 250 caloric exercise deficit combined, for example). In order for you to lose one pound of bodyfat in a single day, you would have to achieve a caloric deficit through diet and exercise of 3500 calories in a single day and I guarantee you aren't going to do that and keep up the activity and strength levels you say you have with that caloric burn ratio, not to mention that you would definitely burn up muscle even trying to do it. In addition, in order to lose say seven pounds of bodyfat in a single week, you would have to have a combined total caloric deficit for those seven days of 24,500 calories which simply isn't sustainable, even using a ketogenic approach to dieting. Your body would simply shut down on you if you tried to do that. If you're really attempting to do what you say you are, I might recommend that you invest in a Life Alert paging system so that the ambulance can come and get you at the press of a button.

Cheers,
jag

[Ongie]

I'm setting a weight loss goal of 2 lbs. per week for 5 weeks... I'm trying to drop 10 pounds for a role in a musical I'm in...

...Is that doable?

[jaguarr]

I'm setting a weight loss goal of 2 lbs. per week for 5 weeks... I'm trying to drop 10 pounds for a role in a musical I'm in...

...Is that doable?

Yes, two pounds per week is doable, sustainable, and about as much as you'd want to lose in a single week to stay healthy. See the info I posted above about a 500 calorie deficit per day being needed to drop one pound of bodyfat per week.

jag

[jaguarr]

I don't think i'm stretching my legs properly. I've been upping the weight on my leg days, and no matter how long i stretch, my calf muscle stays sore for days and days up untill the next workout.

Any ideas.

How much water do you drink each day? A gallon or more over the course of each day is ideal and will help flush your system. Severe Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) and cramps can come from being under-hydrated.

jag

[jaguarr]

no access to a barbell and some weights? pushups are useless

Then why do they do so many pushups in the armed forces? :)

jag

[black_dust]

Well ive just been to play badminton and went for a swim, thats me dont for the day :D

[Superman79]

Then why do they do so many pushups in the armed forces? :)

jag


you know, I used to think pushups were useless too, then I started incorporating 200 of them into my runs and some sets into my chest day and I can tell you, I regret not not doing more pushups in the past, they really do help give a natural shape to the chest and tri's :up:

[Victor Von Doom]

How much water do you drink each day? A gallon or more over the course of each day is ideal and will help flush your system. Severe Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) and cramps can come from being under-hydrated.

jag

That might be it. I sometimes have a hard time keeping up with water intake when i'm at work. thanx, Jag.

[user123456789]

Then why do they do so many pushups in the armed forces? :)

jag

what else are they gonna do in their free time? :o

[Whirlysplat]

what else are they gonna do in their free time? :o

They are training for something different I am about 260 pounds, I would not have the endurance a soldier would have, although I am much stronger. Being big is a two edged sword.

- Whirly

[user123456789]

They are training for something different I am about 260 pounds, I would not have the endurance a soldier would have, although I am much stronger. Being big is a two edged sword.

- Whirly
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June 27th, 2006

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm gonna stab you with kryptonite like Lex does to Supes in the movie if you post that one more time sucka. :p

[Victor Von Doom]

Whats the quickest way to gain chest mass?

More weight fewer reps? More protein intake ontop of the whey? Any thoughts?

[Colossal Spoons]

You just answered your own question haha. More weight, less reps, protein = (1g per lb of body weight), and last but not least....REST!

[Holly Goodhead]

I ate 500 calories today.

[Colossal Spoons]

You should be ashamed and very hungry.

[Holly Goodhead]

I feel morbidly obese and wish I only ate 250.

[Colossal Spoons]

I feel morbidly obese and wish I only ate 250.

You're so typical.

[Socrates]

I ate 500 calories today.

Wouldn't 1100 calories be more... healthy? :confused:

[Colossal Spoons]

Wouldn't 1100 calories be more... healthy? :confused:

Still pretty low though. Holly's a special case, she thinks metabolisms are a joke.

[Socrates]

Holly could do with putting on about 5 pounds. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

I agree, and I've never even seen her.

[Socrates]

She's pretty thin.

[Batty for Bats!]

My right elbow has been ****ed up for about 2 months now. I can't really stretch it out or lift weights or apply pressure with out it feeling like someone stuck a knife in it. My right bicep has only recently become noticeably smaller and alot weaker. I feel like **** just surfing through this thread.

[Lemonhead]

If Toven is really only eating 500 or less calories a day she'd be a lot thinner than she is.

[Holly Goodhead]

fudge brownie for breakfast - 120
popcorn - 100
peanut butter and strawberry crustable thing? - 210
potato chips - no clue
6 inch tuna sandwich from Subway - no clue
salad (tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes)/Ranch dressing - no clue

[user123456789]

fudge brownie for breakfast - 120
popcorn - 100
peanut butter and strawberry crustable thing? - 210
potato chips - no clue
6 inch tuna sandwich from Subway - no clue
salad (tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes)/Ranch dressing - no clue
That's at least 1000 calories. :up:

[Socrates]

A tuna sandwich from Subway sounds good right about now. :o

[Holly Goodhead]

eww

[Holly Goodhead]

ok i had a lot of chips, like a bowl full.

[Lemonhead]

You didn't vomit after, did you? :confused:

[Holly Goodhead]

i rode the machine bike for 20 minutes and burned off only 180 calories. which pisses me off cause thats like the bag of popcorn and almost half of the brownie. which leaves everything else i ate

[jaguarr]

My right elbow has been ****ed up for about 2 months now. I can't really stretch it out or lift weights or apply pressure with out it feeling like someone stuck a knife in it. My right bicep has only recently become noticeably smaller and alot weaker. I feel like **** just surfing through this thread.

If this has been going on for two months, it's time for you to go to the doctor and get the problem checked out because it's not going to heal on it's own.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

fudge brownie for breakfast - 120
popcorn - 100
peanut butter and strawberry crustable thing? - 210
potato chips - no clue
6 inch tuna sandwich from Subway - no clue
salad (tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes)/Ranch dressing - no clue

Aw, what an adorble breakfast and lunch. I'd lose the brownie next time though.

[ShadowBoxing]

Holly doesn't have to worry -- sex burns lots of calories.

[Lemonhead]

But I thought she makes the guys do all the work?

[Colossal Spoons]

^She would :o


Anyway, I have an exercise question: To whomever does incline and decline benchpress, which days do you do them on? Do you do incline on chest or shoulder day; and do you do decline on chest or tricep day?

[Iceman]

i rode the machine bike for 20 minutes and burned off only 180 calories. which pisses me off cause thats like the bag of popcorn and almost half of the brownie. which leaves everything else i ateI find it hard burning calories quickly on a bike. It's much easier to lose them quickly on a crosstrainer.

[Colossal Spoons]

^ I burn quite a lot, but I use the spinner bike. Hell on the "ol sack n' balls" but you work up a hell of a sweat. :up:

[jaguarr]

^She would :o


Anyway, I have an exercise question: To whomever does incline and decline benchpress, which days do you do them on? Do you do incline on chest or shoulder day; and do you do decline on chest or tricep day?

They're both still chest exercises, regardless of the position. Decline is going to hit your lower pecs and inclines will hit your upper pecs (which most people are really lacking in, really). Any presses or other chest exercises get done on chest day. :)

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

They're both still chest exercises, regardless of the position. Decline is going to hit your lower pecs and inclines will hit your upper pecs (which most people are really lacking in, really). Any presses or other chest exercises get done on chest day. :)

jag

True, the only reason I'd split them up is because of the secondary muscles worked(Incline=shoulder and Decline=triceps).

[Iceman]

^ I burn quite a lot, but I use the spinner bike. Hell on the "ol sack n' balls" but you work up a hell of a sweat. :up:How many would you expect to burn in half an hour / an hour?

[Colossal Spoons]

How many would you expect to burn in half an hour / an hour?

Well, how intensely you pedal makes all the difference obviously, but I burn a cool 220 in 45 mins.

The machine bikes are a bit too "lazy" for me, now that I'm on the spinners. However, I think I'm sterile now :(

[jaguarr]

True, the only reason I'd split them up is because of the secondary muscles worked(Incline=shoulder and Decline=triceps).

Depends on how your split is constructed, but there are better ways to work secondary muscle recruitment in your split than that. I would keep them together, personally. Their primary focus is still chest.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Alrighty, I've never tried them all on the same day but I'll def give it a shot. My chest day is gonna be all kinds of long.

[Iceman]

Well, how intensely you pedal makes all the difference obviously, but I burn a cool 220 in 45 mins.

The machine bikes are a bit too "lazy" for me, now that I'm on the spinners. However, I think I'm sterile now :(Try doing 45 mins on a cross trainer. You can probably do 220 calories in 10 minutes if you go for it.

The cross trainer uses your whole body so if you can keep up a good pace, you'll be very surprised by the results. In half an hour I do about 680-700 calories and 1200 in an hour but that is at a consistent fast pace at resistance of 15/16 out of 20.

Even my sis does 600 in an hour on minimal resistance.

Give it a go :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, that's like 300% more efficient than my spinning lol. I'll definately look for that today. :up: Those ellipticals are no joke.

[jaguarr]

Alrighty, I've never tried them all on the same day but I'll def give it a shot. My chest day is gonna be all kinds of long.

My chest routine typically looks like this:

Incline DB Press
Flat DB Press
Incline OR Flat DB Fly
Dips w/ Chest emphasis

The dips are the only thing I do that target the lower chest specifically. Most people don't really need lower chest work as that tends to come with flat work, anyway. Upper chest is usually what's lagging.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

You don't like barbells do ya?

[jaguarr]

You don't like barbells do ya?

Not for presses. They put a lot of stress on my shoulders. The ROM is much better with the DB's and is easier on my shoulders so I don't have persistent pain and swelling in my rotators. I switched from BB's to DB's over a year ago and have never looked back. My strength and size gains have been very good using the DB's, too.

jag

[Iceman]

Wow, that's like 300% more efficient than my spinning lol. I'll definately look for that today. :up: Those ellipticals are no joke.Let me know how you get on :up:

[jaguarr]

If your gym has a Stepmill, that thing will kick your ass inside out. :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, never had it kicked that hard. I forgot today was leg day and I don't do cardio on leg day(don't know anybody that does). So tomorrow, that elliptical is mine.

[The Storm]

I've started going to the gym, mostly because a friend of mine works there and has become my personal trainer. I'm trying to tone up ready for my holiday in three weeks but I think I need to change my diet. Should I avoid eating loads of carbs?

[triplefive]

My nutritionist friend cringes when anyone thinks they should cut carbs.

We *need* carbs... but there are good carbs and bad carbs. Go for whole grain everything instead of refined (read: processed) stuff, and eat fruit instead of candy, sweet potato instead of regular potato, etc.

[The Storm]

Am I big fruit eater and I always eat a good breakfast but I'm getting something wrong. I've become less fond of junk food and rarely eat it, I think my biggest problem could be snacking in between meals.

[Colossal Spoons]

I've started going to the gym, mostly because a friend of mine works there and has become my personal trainer. I'm trying to tone up ready for my holiday in three weeks but I think I need to change my diet. Should I avoid eating loads of carbs?

So many things wrong with that. People always give themselves a short deadline to tone/bulk up or slim down. Don't get fit for a vacation, get fit forEVER. :up:

[The Storm]

We started about two weeks back and its twice a week, I see what you mean though. I want to look toned generally but my holiday is something to aim for, even if the deadline is fast approaching.

[jaguarr]

Am I big fruit eater and I always eat a good breakfast but I'm getting something wrong. I've become less fond of junk food and rarely eat it, I think my biggest problem could be snacking in between meals.

You should be shooting for 4-6 medium sized meals per day with roughly a 45% protein/30% Complex Carb/25% Essential Fatty Acids breakdown. Protein is going to be the key here to helping you build musle. Shoot for a minimum of 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight per day or more. Complex carbs are things like brown rice, yams/sweet potatoes and oatmeal, and will go a long way towards your goals as well. Avoid processed flours and sugars. Drink a gallon of water or more per day. You'll be surprised what can happen to your body in three weeks if you just clean up your diet.

jag

[jaguarr]

Don't get fit for a vacation, get fit forEVER. :up:

I could not agree more. "I've f**ked off and gotten really out of shape and eaten like **** for the last 48 weeks, but my vacation is coming up and I want to look good!". Doesn't work that way, really.

jag

[The Storm]

Thanks Jag, must remember to drink more water an essential part of any diet.

[jaguarr]

Thanks Jag, must remember to drink more water an essential part of any diet.

One other tip: If it has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it, it does not go into your body. HFCS is a particularly evil compound in that it doesn't really break down like other sugars or simple carbs. It just converts straight to fat. Period. And, it carries a whole host of other health issues it can cause as well. Google it and be frightened. By the way, that soda you're drinking...LOADED with HFCS.

A tool like Fitday (http://www.fitday.com) or NutriDiary (http://www.nutridiary.com[/url) can help you track your caloric breakdown and intake and are free.

Couple good pieces of info from this very thread that you might take a look at are here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9050580&postcount=1095) and here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9210340&postcount=1232).

The best hope you have for your vacation is to clean your diet up drastically and get your **** together on that front. You won't see MASSIVE changes in your physique in three weeks, but you could see some with the right dietary tweaks. Like CS said, get in shape for LIFE, not for your vacation.

Good luck,
jag

[The Storm]

Yeah, I've been meaning to get in shape for years but this holiday unlike others has been a motivation. Plus I have a personal trainer in my friend so I don't have any excuses.

[Colossal Spoons]

HFCS and Partially Dehydrogenated Flour. People tend to forget about that one. :up:

[jaguarr]

HFCS and Partially Dehydrogenated Flour. People tend to forget about that one. :up:

Yep. I count PDF as processed flour most definitely, thus I never eat it. That stuff is bad ****.

jag

[Whirlysplat]

Haha, never had it kicked that hard. I forgot today was leg day and I don't do cardio on leg day(don't know anybody that does). So tomorrow, that elliptical is mine.

Neither do I.

- Whirly

[Whirlysplat]

One other tip: If it has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it, it does not go into your body. HFCS is a particularly evil compound in that it doesn't really break down like other sugars or simple carbs. It just converts straight to fat. Period. And, it carries a whole host of other health issues it can cause as well. Google it and be frightened. By the way, that soda you're drinking...LOADED with HFCS.

A tool like Fitday (http://www.fitday.com) or NutriDiary (http://www.nutridiary.com[/url) can help you track your caloric breakdown and intake and are free.

Couple good pieces of info from this very thread that you might take a look at are here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9050580&postcount=1095) and here (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9210340&postcount=1232).

The best hope you have for your vacation is to clean your diet up drastically and get your **** together on that front. You won't see MASSIVE changes in your physique in three weeks, but you could see some with the right dietary tweaks. Like CS said, get in shape for LIFE, not for your vacation.

Good luck,
jag

All true.

- Whirly

[jaguarr]

Neither do I.

- Whirly

Leg day takes a lot out of you (if you're doing it right). Occassionally I'll throw 15 minutes of elliptical (or the "epileptical", as my wife calls it) after legs but not as a hard, fast rule.

jag

[Whirlysplat]

Leg day takes a lot out of you (if you're doing it right). Occassionally I'll throw 15 minutes of elliptical (or the "epileptical", as my wife calls it) after legs but not as a hard, fast rule.

jag

I have to use an unusual Leg routine since my Arthroscopy, I cannot go as heavy so I used a routine involving higher reps than previously at about 70% max. I use a lot of Leg Press and Hacks now as well with no free squatting . You're married mate, cool. Do you hav kids, I have a boy.

- Whirly

[The Storm]

My friend is a runner so he has us working out legs, hard! He does about five minutes of different squats and its knackering. My target area is my abs but I have problems with my back meaning I'm limited with what I can do. Sit ups are a no no but I can manage crunches.

[user123456789]

ferocious back day :up:

[jaguarr]

I have to use an unusual Leg routine since my Arthroscopy, I cannot go as heavy so I used a routine involving higher reps than previously at about 70% max. I use a lot of Leg Press and Hacks now as well with no free squatting . You're married mate, cool. Do you hav kids, I have a boy.

- Whirly

Well, surgery changes the equation for you, most definitely. I'd die without being able to do heavy free squats, but hack squats can work well. Can you even do front squats with a BB or is that off limits as well? Yep, happily married, though we don't have any kids at this point in time. Not sure if we want them in the equation or not. Probably, but maybe in a couple years. We'll see.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

For all of us that eat healthily; you even just feel bad for somebody eating an unhealthy meal? I watched this kid in my summer class today wolf down this horrendous sandwich and chips, then wash it down with a Hi-C of all things. It made me sick to my stomach :(

[BatMatt]

I've been a gym member for along while but have been very inconsistant. When I got back from school in May I wanted to push very hard (six days a week or so). I've gone 20 days so far in June, which I'm very happy with. I'm seeing a lot of results for only five weeks. I have two workouts,which I do every otherday. My workouts:

Biceps/Chest
Benchpress
Decline bench
Incline Bench
butterflies
bar curls
wrist curls (behind the back)
inverse curls
cable curls

Triceps/shoulders/back
Shoulder presses
pulldowns
row
skull crushers
dumbell shoulder raises
tricep pulldown

I also run 20 minutes on my tricep days, been going .1 mph faster each day

[Orko Is King]

June twenty-ninth. I gotta get in shape. Too much sitting has ruined my body. Too much abuse has gone on for too long. From now on there will be 50 pushups each morning, 50 pullups. There will be no more pills, no more bad food, no more destroyers of my body. From now on will be total organization. Every muscle must be tight.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm with you 100%

[Tony Little] You can doooo it! [/Tony Little]

[user123456789]

For all of us that eat healthily; you even just feel bad for somebody eating an unhealthy meal? I watched this kid in my summer class today wolf down this horrendous sandwich and chips, then wash it down with a Hi-C of all things. It made me sick to my stomach :(

nope. my diet is everything in moderation.

and wow i had the crappiest shoulder workout known to man-kind today.

[NOFX]

How do you get rid of Man-Boobies :O

[Borat]

Cool, I'm glad there are people on here who stay in shape. Any bodybuilders around?

[jaguarr]

Cool, I'm glad there are people on here who stay in shape. Any bodybuilders around?

Yeah, there's a few that frequent this place.

jag

[deemar325]

Shadow I got an major back injury and had to get surgery to correct my posture and relieve the pain.

As it stands I have issues with exercises dealing with the lower back, how can I overcome this problem?


Oh and the injury was shrapnel to the back and I had to get a surgery call a 'Lumbardiscotemy of the L4 and L5 of the lower back.)

[user123456789]

^She would :o


Anyway, I have an exercise question: To whomever does incline and decline benchpress, which days do you do them on? Do you do incline on chest or shoulder day; and do you do decline on chest or tricep day?
Yea.. what jag said.. do em all on chest day.

[user123456789]

How do you get rid of Man-Boobies :O
You can't... you're stuck with them forever. :(

[jaguarr]

Shadow I got an major back injury and had to get surgery to correct my posture and relieve the pain.

As it stands I have issues with exercises dealing with the lower back, how can I overcome this problem?


Oh and the injury was shrapnel to the back and I had to get a surgery call a 'Lumbardiscotemy of the L4 and L5 of the lower back.)

Injuries, especially those involving surgical correction, make giving any kind of advice around exercise and weight training really tricky, man. Even knowing the kind of surgery and which vertebrae were affected isn't really enough, since everyone is so different as are the circumstances. The best advice I could give you on this one is to talk with your doc to understand what issues/concerns/limitations there are and explore the possiblity of getting with a good Physical Therapist who can help you progress through rehabbing your back with the goal of being able to do full-on weight training if that's what you want to do. The military should have good coverage for this kind of thing, I would think. Hope that helps, man, but you're a special case (bet you've NEVER heard that before) due to your medical status and I wouldn't feel comfortable telling you to try anything without you taking that doc and PT step. Good luck and let us know how things progress for you! :up:

jag

[deemar325]

Injuries, especially those involving surgical correction, make giving any kind of advice around exercise and weight training really tricky, man. Even knowing the kind of surgery and which vertebrae were affected isn't really enough, since everyone is so different as are the circumstances. The best advice I could give you on this one is to talk with your doc to understand what issues/concerns/limitations there are and explore the possiblity of getting with a good Physical Therapist who can help you progress through rehabbing your back with the goal of being able to do full-on weight training if that's what you want to do. The military should have good coverage for this kind of thing, I would think. Hope that helps, man, but you're a special case (bet you've NEVER heard that before) due to your medical status and I wouldn't feel comfortable telling you to try anything without you taking that doc and PT step. Good luck and let us know how things progress for you! :up:


Solid advise, I already have a workout regime, given to me by my doctor and physical therapy specialist I just wanted to see what other options are on the table.


jag

Jag it was good sound advice.

[Gamma Ray]

How do you get rid of Man-Boobies :O


I was once at a water park where I saw something that scarred me for life: a guy with tits bigger than any girl I'd ever seen. It was the nastiest thing ever.

[user123456789]

I was once at a water park where I saw something that scarred me for life: a guy with tits bigger than any girl I'd ever seen. It was the nastiest thing ever.
wow... those are some big tits...

[NOFX]

I was once at a water park where I saw something that scarred me for life: a guy with tits bigger than any girl I'd ever seen. It was the nastiest thing ever.
Well Im an A-cup:cool:

[GoldenAgeHero]

i need advice. will drinking more water help me loose weight? im currently overweight, whatelse i can do to burn fat? besides the obvious run, more cardio etc. i dont want to bulk up until i lose the weight i wanna shed.

[kainedamo]

Hey guys! I need your help really really badly. Important!

Remember how I said I would go jogging? Well I joegged every morning for about 3 weeks. I really enjoyed it, while exhausting I felt great afterwards, worked up alot of sweat. However... I noticed that gradually, my ankles were in pain. Not much, but I noticed anyway.

And then one day when I was jogging, I could jog no more, for my left foot was just too damn sore. I limped home. I stopped jogging, and limped when I walked for the next couple of days. How long has it been since I've stopped jogging? 6 weeks? Longer?? The pain has cleared up... put I still get pains in my left ankle. I thought it would heal in its own time but it hasn't It's tolerable, but still. Should I ask a doctor about it? Do I have weak ankles or something?

[enterthemadness]

:) to get rid of man-boobies just do pushups. It makes your chest look nice and flat. Like mine.:)

[jaguarr]

Hey guys! I need your help really really badly. Important!

Remember how I said I would go jogging? Well I joegged every morning for about 3 weeks. I really enjoyed it, while exhausting I felt great afterwards, worked up alot of sweat. However... I noticed that gradually, my ankles were in pain. Not much, but I noticed anyway.

And then one day when I was jogging, I could jog no more, for my left foot was just too damn sore. I limped home. I stopped jogging, and limped when I walked for the next couple of days. How long has it been since I've stopped jogging? 6 weeks? Longer?? The pain has cleared up... put I still get pains in my left ankle. I thought it would heal in its own time but it hasn't It's tolerable, but still. Should I ask a doctor about it? Do I have weak ankles or something?

Could be bad shoes or problems with your feet. Probably worth talking to your doctor about, yes.

jag

[kainedamo]

i need advice. will drinking more water help me loose weight? im currently overweight, whatelse i can do to burn fat? besides the obvious run, more cardio etc. i dont want to bulk up until i lose the weight i wanna shed.

Cut out fizzy drinks all together, 100%. Drink alot of water. It gets rid of alot of crap in your body, it's probably the most refreshing liquid out there, and if you're looking to lose weight sticking to water is one way to go.

[jaguarr]

i need advice. will drinking more water help me loose weight? im currently overweight, whatelse i can do to burn fat? besides the obvious run, more cardio etc. i dont want to bulk up until i lose the weight i wanna shed.

It certainly won't hurt to drink more water, especially if you're displacing intake of other liquids like sodas or other drinks containing High Fructose Corn Syrup. The real key to dropping weight is going to be in your diet, though, and there are several posts in this thread that discuss proper diet that you should look for, but the best advice I could give you is drop all junk food, all processed sugar and flour, and try to eat as clean and as healthy as you possibly can. That alone can make a huge difference for the average person.

jag

[enterthemadness]

:( why can't fizzy drinks be good for us and still taste great?

[jaguarr]

Solid advise, I already have a workout regime, given to me by my doctor and physical therapy specialist I just wanted to see what other options are on the table.

I'd just hate to see you get hurt trying something one of us suggested here, since none of us really know the full extent of your injuries and what and why your doc and PT are having you do what they have you doing. Talk to your PT a bit about the goals you'd like to set for yourself and see if you can get them to help you work towards those goals a bit. Most PT's deal with people who just want to get back to "normal" again, so they usually get excited when they encounter someone who wants to rebuild themselves bigger and badder than they were before they got hurt. :up: Good luck, man!

jag

[GoldenAgeHero]

It certainly won't hurt to drink more water, especially if you're displacing intake of other liquids like sodas or other drinks containing High Fructose Corn Syrup. The real key to dropping weight is going to be in your diet, though, and there are several posts in this thread that discuss proper diet that you should look for, but the best advice I could give you is drop all junk food, all processed sugar and flour, and try to eat as clean and as healthy as you possibly can. That alone can make a huge difference for the average person.

jag


great god, so no bags of chips or fruit punch?

[Colossal Spoons]

^I'm afraid not. You won't miss them after a few months of healthy eating :up:

[user123456789]

Well Im an A-cup:cool:
I'm an A-cup as well, but I refer to them as pecs... not man boobies.. rofl.

[user123456789]

great god, so no bags of chips or fruit punch?
Nah you can have them once in awhile.

I'd go with some baked type chips (aka baked lays, etc)... and flavored water over fruit punch.

[Colossal Spoons]

"Once in a while" is a really vague term that people new to healthy eating take advantage of and turn it into "once a week" or "when I'm with friends" until it slowly reverts back to "all the time". The fruit punch GAH is talking about is probably the kinds with crazy amounts of HFCS and that crap should be avoided "all the time". :)

[NOFX]

I'm an A-cup as well, but I refer to them as pecs... not man boobies.. rofl.
Pecs? But my gf likes to play with them, which is why I like to call them boobies!

[user123456789]

Pecs? But my gf likes to play with them, which is why I like to call them boobies!
your gf might be... a lesbian.

[NOFX]

your gf might be... a lesbian.
Hmmmm:ghost:

[jaguarr]

"Once in a while" is a really vague term that people new to healthy eating take advantage of and turn it into "once a week" or "when I'm with friends" until it slowly reverts back to "all the time". The fruit punch GAH is talking about is probably the kinds with crazy amiunts of HFCS and that crap should be avoided "all the time". :)

:up: :up: :up:
:up: :up: :up:

jag

[user123456789]

Hmmmm:ghost:
I know, I am very wise.

[echostation]

are dips, close handed push ups/diamond push ups and tricep push downs good exercises for the triceps, esp for beginners for the next 6 months?

[user123456789]

are dips, close handed push ups/diamond push ups and tricep push downs good exercises for the triceps, esp for beginners for the next 6 months?
dips
close grip bench
skullcrushers
weighted bench dips
tricep pushdowns
tricep pulldowns

[jaguarr]

dips
close grip bench
skullcrushers
weighted bench dips
tricep pushdowns
tricep pulldowns

Good list. I'd add Reverse Grip Bench Press. :up:

jag

[Superman79]

Good list. I'd add Reverse Grip Bench Press. :up:

jag

Yup, and overhead extensions with an EZ Bar or a dumbell...as well as dumbell kick-backs as a finishing move.

[AndThePickles]

Question: How many times a week do you guys do abs? I like to do mine 3 times a week, but is this too often?

Also, I love that avatar jag :up:

[jaguarr]

Yup, and overhead extensions with an EZ Bar or a dumbell...as well as dumbell kick-backs as a finishing move.

I know some people really love 'em, but I've always found kickbacks to be so lacking in benefits in comparison with all the other exercises that are available to work and sculpt the tri's that they're really not even worth doing. More bang for your buck in other things. :)

jag

[Superman79]

I know some people really love 'em, but I've always found kickbacks to be so lacking in benefits in comparison with all the other exercises that are available to work and sculpt the tri's that they're really not even worth doing. More bang for your buck in other things. :)

jag

Oh, see I used to be that way too, but when I tack 2-3 sets on at the end of a hard triceps workout, I find it just fries my arms to the point where I can barely move. I'd never use them mid-workout, but as a finisher...wow. Those or unweighted bench dips or rope pulldowns to failure...all good finishers IMHO.

[jaguarr]

Question: How many times a week do you guys do abs? I like to do mine 3 times a week, but is this too often?

Also, I love that avatar jag :up:

Ab's are kind of a funky set of muscles. Even moreso than the rest of your body, everyone responds better to different approaches and bodyfat percentage has a much bigger impact on them than other muscle groups. I've had the best results with my abs by working them 3x a week for two weeks and then giving them a week off before resuming back at it for a couple of weeks and so on. Most people grossly overtrain their abs, thinking that's how they'll get them to stand out, when the reality it's your bodyfat percentage that will dictate whether you get that six pack or not.

jag

[AndThePickles]

Hmm, I might try that week off method. Thanks!

[Superman79]

Ab's are kind of a funky set of muscles. Even moreso than the rest of your body, everyone responds better to different approaches and bodyfat percentage has a much bigger impact on them than other muscle groups. I've had the best results with my abs by working them 3x a week for two weeks and then giving them a week off before resuming back at it for a couple of weeks and so on. Most people grossly overtrain their abs, thinking that's how they'll get them to stand out, when the reality it's your bodyfat percentage that will dictate whether you get that six pack or not.

jag

I'm a big fan of clenching your abs a bit as you do cardio...I always feel it the next day

[jaguarr]

Oh, see I used to be that way too, but when I tack 2-3 sets on at the end of a hard triceps workout, I find it just fries my arms to the point where I can barely move. I'd never use them mid-workout, but as a finisher...wow. Those or unweighted bench dips or rope pulldowns to failure...all good finishers IMHO.

I never have enough gas to do that between heavy and hard close grip or reverse grip benches, cross-bench dumbbell pullovers (usually incorrectly called skullcrushers by most people) and then running 3 sets of ten on the dip bars with two plates hanging off my Grizzly Belt. Dips will give you a similar movement for the tri's with more benefits IMHO. :)

jag

[deemar325]

Wassup people.

[jaguarr]

I'm a big fan of clenching your abs a bit as you do cardio...I always feel it the next day

That's how you're SUPPOSED to do ab exercises, too; the stomach vacuum method (which is actually a decent ab exercise unto itself). Most people let it all just flop out while they're doing crunches. :D

jag

[AndThePickles]

I can't imagine how you'd do abs and let it all "flop out". I naturally clench mine while exercising. One thing I do like to do while doing regular crunches is to simultaneously lift my butt up and clench those muscles....my instructor at an aerobics class I took recommended that. Two exercises in one :)

[Superman79]

That's how you're SUPPOSED to do ab exercises, too; the stomach vacuum method (which is actually a decent ab exercise unto itself). Most people let it all just flop out while they're doing crunches. :D

jag

haha...I workout at a YMCA (brand new refurbished weight room, yeah baby) and some of the guys there really do just let the gut flop about...it's scary :eek:

[Superman79]

I can't imagine how you'd do abs and let it all "flop out". I naturally clench mine while exercising. One thing I do like to do while doing regular crunches is to simultaneously lift my butt up and clench those muscles....my instructor at an aerobics class I took recommended that. Two exercises in one :)

Yeah that helps with the lower abs as well

[BatMatt]

I do abs six times a week

[Superman79]

I never have enough gas to do that between heavy and hard close grip or reverse grip benches, cross-bench dumbbell pullovers (usually incorrectly called skullcrushers by most people) and then running 3 sets of ten on the dip bars with two plates hanging off my Grizzly Belt. Dips will give you a similar movement for the tri's with more benefits IMHO. :)

jag

Oh see...I can't do dips with the weight as doing dips alone from bars stresses my wrists something awful (if I'm using proper form keeping the elbows from flaring) so I have a little more in the tank after a similar workout. :)

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, I gave those dead lifts a try today and boy is my back sore. I was worried my form would be wrong and I'd injure my back but I decided to go light for my first time and only did 135lbs :up:

[BatMatt]

Yesterday I upped my benchpress, so now I do three sets of ten at 165 pounds on the flatbench as well as the decline bench.

[Iceman]

dips
close grip bench
skullcrushers
weighted bench dips
tricep pushdowns
tricep pulldownsI'm not familiar with "skullcrushers". How do you do those?

[BatMatt]

I'm not familiar with "skullcrushers". How do you do those?
http://www.moleculegirl.com/skullcrushers1.jpg

Keeping your elbows pointing upward, extend your arms straight, and then back down again.

[Iceman]

Keeping your elbows pointing upward, extend your arms straight, and then back down again.Thanks

Funny, I do those all the time - never knew they were called skullcrushers.

[U.S War Machine]

To me I'm pretty cut but what I'm trying to do is gain alittle bit more muscle mass does protein stuff do that for ya?

[ShadowBoxing]

To me I'm pretty cut but what I'm trying to do is gain alittle bit more muscle mass does protein stuff do that for ya?Protien is a big part of it. But to actually gain mass you need carbs. Protien simply aids in muscle recovery, but carbohydrates and water are bricks and morter needed to rebuild them.

[ShadowBoxing]

Thanks

Funny, I do those all the time - never knew they were called skullcrushers.They have other names like "nosebreakers" (very popular title at my gym), Lying Tricep Extensions, Lying E-Z Bar French Press (or as I call it Freedom Press ;)), other names are out there as well...I just cannot think of them of the top of my head.

[U.S War Machine]

Protien is a big part of it. But to actually gain mass you need carbs. Protien simply aids in muscle recovery, but carbohydrates and water are bricks and morter needed to rebuild them.Shadow do you think you can pm maybe like a little list of something of protein stuff so I can go out and buy. Then maybe give you some results later on

[BatMatt]

Shawdowboxing, my friend takes a new supplement called "anator", it's not a protein but a "muscle gene enhancer". Do you know anything of this product?

[Iceman]

They have other names like "nosebreakers" (very popular title at my gym), Lying Tricep Extensions, Lying E-Z Bar French Press (or as I call it Freedom Press ;)), other names are out there as well...I just cannot think of them of the top of my head.I prefer all these exotic names. They'd help with my motivation. Saying "I'm off to the gym to beat out some tricep curls/extensions" doesn't have the same impact as skullcrushers/nosebreakers/freedom press etc ;)

[ShadowBoxing]

Shadow do you think you can pm maybe like a little list of something of protein stuff so I can go out and buy. Then maybe give you some results later onSure, I can tell you what to look into right here.

Don't buy GNC -- they are expensive, look for a wholesale nutrition store in your neighborhood.

I like Pure Whey, it runs about 30 bucks for 71 servings. Other product people at my gym swear by but I have not tried personally in MuscleMilk. Muscle Milk is fairly fattening, and most only do one serving a day. Usually you mix these shakes with water.

As for food. For me I stick with Chicken, Lean Steak and Beef, Fish, Turkey (both Deli and breast), Eggbeaters, Turkey Bacon (on and off--has a good deal of fat).

Many bodybuilders find Peanut Butter and Skim Milk helpful, however for a lot of people this stuff will add unwanted sugars and fats to your body...but it's still worth trying.

[ShadowBoxing]

Shawdowboxing, my friend takes a new supplement called "anator", it's not a protein but a "muscle gene enhancer". Do you know anything of this product?Nope, but based on the word "gene enhancer" I would think it's either very dangerous or a total crock....I'd still have to see it for myself, do you have a link to a website or anything.

[BatMatt]

http://www.muscletech.com/PRODUCTS/ANATOR/index.shtml

Been doing some online reading about it, one person says results are probably going to happen but its way overhyped and at 90 dollars a month way over priced

[ShadowBoxing]

http://www.muscletech.com/PRODUCTS/ANATOR/index.shtml

Been doing some online reading about it, one person says results are probably going to happen but its way overhyped and at 90 dollars a month way over pricedAh yes MuscleTech, funny I was just going to post about avoiding their products.

Yeah MuscleTech is more or less full of crap. Their signature product, CellTech, is literally just regular old creatine monohydrate mixed with table sugar. And they'll charge you a bundle for it. Stick to Creatine, Glutamine and Protien and that will be fine.

[BatMatt]

I just bought a bottle of KRE-ALKALYN, and I'm reading everywhere it eliminates the problems with normal creatine because it breaks down after it hits the muscle cells not before. You hear of this before?

[NOFX]

How do you get rid of Man-Boobies :O
Shamless Bump! :(

[ShadowBoxing]

I just bought a bottle of KRE-ALKALYN, and I'm reading everywhere it eliminates the problems with normal creatine because it breaks down after it hits the muscle cells not before. You hear of this before?Normal Creatine Monohydrate, provided you work out and obey an athletic diet, won't cause that bloating problem. KRE-ALKALYN probably is no different really from traditional Creatine, they just market it under the misconception that Creatine makes you bloat (which it will do if you consume a ton of sugar and don't exercise often).

You have to understand these companies don't market their products to knowledgable fitness professionals, athletes or bodybuilders. Because those people tend to take a minimalist approach, which I advocate, to supplements.

If you take the word "supplement" and break it down in your mind you will see their intended use. Once you have your diet and training solid and you want to "supplement" it you turn to supplements. Frequently though people see Supplementation as the first resort rather than the last resort, simply because marketing presents them as "magic muscle makers". The big things are diet and training, then supplements, then once you've reached a point you feel is your absolute best if you really really really want to and feel a need to compete at a high level -- steroids (however that is a definite "look before you leap" situation).

[BatMatt]

Well I've been working out consistantly (over 6 weeks) and I go between 5 and 6 times a week and am seeing good results, so I defintely am not gonna take it as a "first resort." Thanks for answering

[ShadowBoxing]

Well I've been working out consistantly (over 6 weeks) and I go between 5 and 6 times a week and am seeing good results, so I defintely am not gonna take it as a "first resort." Thanks for answeringGood :D

[enterthemadness]

ShadowBoxing, what is your view on the Pure Protein bars? (aka America's Protein Bar) They taste good and I usually eat one every other day or so. However, should I really be using protein bars if I only do a lot of pushups (240 six days a week and 300 situps six days)? I have noticed my arms have gotten a tiny, tiny bit bigger.

[ShadowBoxing]

ShadowBoxing, what is your view on the Pure Protein bars? (aka America's Protein Bar) They taste good and I usually eat one every other day or so. However, should I really be using protein bars if I only do a lot of pushups (240 six days a week and 300 situps six days)? I have noticed my arms have gotten a tiny, tiny bit bigger.I am not a fan of protein bars simply because I feel the sugar and fat content makes them essentially candy, but some people swear by them. As long as you work out and follow a strict diet and don't eat them in mass I am sure they are fine.

As for you personally. Push ups and situps don't cut it. I mean I do 500 crunches/situps variations 3 times a week. But my real results come from my Weight lifting 4 times a week, or my sprinting/distance running (done at various times) plus any additional training (also various). What you're doing typically does not build mass unless you are very inclined to be massive already. Proper weight training and or intense cardio/explosive cardio training ought to be a strong part of your routine before you start considering protein supplements in your diet.

[Colossal Spoons]

SB mentioned this a while back but does anybody here take MuscleMilk? I was astonished at how much fat it contained but my gym promotes it and gave out a few samples and that stuff is delicious!

[ShadowBoxing]

SB mentioned this a while back but does anybody here take MuscleMilk? I was astonished at how much fat it contained but my gym promotes it and gave out a few samples and that stuff is delicious!I tried it, it works pretty good. It is mostly "good" fat according to it's promoters. There are other ways to get the same effect, though it does taste good.

And yes I live, I was almost struck by lightning on Sunday (ten yards away). Did nothing to me, but apparently the electrical storm overloaded my modem and now I cannot access the internet.

[raybia]

I tried it, it works pretty good. It is mostly "good" fat according to it's promoters. There are other ways to get the same effect, though it does taste good.

And yes I live, I was almost struck by lightning on Sunday (ten yards away). Did nothing to me, but apparently the electrical storm overloaded my modem and now I cannot access the internet.


Wow, muscle milk also prevents lighting strikes!

I'm pick some up today!:up: :)

[ShadowBoxing]

Wow, muscle milk also prevents lighting strikes!

I'm pick some up today!:up: :)I tried the muscleMilk after the lightning strike, the lightning strike was far more intense.

[jaguarr]

Meh. Muscle Milk is overpriced, IMHO. I'd prefer to have more control over my EFA profile, as well. That's just me, though. I know a lot of people like the stuff. :)

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

I'm waiting to buy it, which means I probably won't any time soon. I gots what I need for the time being.

[jaguarr]

On another note, glad you survived the lightning, SB. Let this be a lesson to you to not run around outside with your tinfoil hat on during thunderstorms.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

On another note, glad you survived the lightning, SB. Let this be a lesson to you to not run around outside with your tinfoil hat on during thunderstorms.

jagYes well with all these SUMofGOD threads I have a right to be nervous :mad: :p

[Iceman]

And yes I live, I was almost struck by lightning on Sunday (ten yards away). Did nothing to me, but apparently the electrical storm overloaded my modem and now I cannot access the internet.Glad you're ok. A bit of lightning always helps with the motivational issues. :up:

[raybia]

Seriously, what would be the best protein shake to consume based on my goals?

I weigh 168, 5'8" with about 18% body fat. I would like to get my body fat to 10% and like to put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. I run 4 miles 3x weekly and I want to begin lifting at least 3 to 4 times weekly.

[jaguarr]

I'm a big fan of Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Gold Standard protein mix. It's got a great amino profile, tastes great and is reasonably priced. If I want EFA's with it, I can mix a little flax oil in and I'm good to go. I can also mix it with milk or water, depending on how fast I want the absorption rate to be. :up:

jag

[raybia]

I'm a big fan of Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Gold Standard protein mix. It's got a great amino profile, tastes great and is reasonably priced. If I want EFA's with it, I can mix a little flax oil in and I'm good to go. I can also mix it with milk or water, depending on how fast I want the absorption rate to be. :up:

jag

Thanks, I'll give it a try!

[jaguarr]

Thanks, I'll give it a try!

Keep in mind that diet is going to make the biggest impact, along with the right balance of cardio and muscle-building (as muscle burns fat, the more you put on the more fat your body will burn on average), to your overall physique and in helping you reach your goals.

jag

[Superman79]

I'm a big fan of Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Gold Standard protein mix. It's got a great amino profile, tastes great and is reasonably priced. If I want EFA's with it, I can mix a little flax oil in and I'm good to go. I can also mix it with milk or water, depending on how fast I want the absorption rate to be. :up:

jag

I used to use ON's whey, it's good stuff. You ever tried Isopure? It is my new protein of choice...low carb, no bloat, AND it tastes fantastic :up:

[jaguarr]

I used to use ON's whey, it's good stuff. You ever tried Isopure? It is my new protein of choice...low carb, no bloat, AND it tastes fantastic :up:

Isopure is excellent. It really upsets my stomach, however, so I had to cease using it. It's also rather spendy compared to some of the other products on the market. ON's whey has a really high whey isolate content, anyway, so it's nearly as good in that respect and much more cost effective.

jag

[raybia]

Keep in mind that diet is going to make the biggest impact, along with the right balance of cardio and muscle-building (as muscle burns fat, the more you put on the more fat your body will burn on average), to your overall physique and in helping you reach your goals.

jag

Right now I'm eating three meals a day with some type of snack in between.

I'm not eating a lot of protein right now, but my diet mainly fruits, veggies, and small servings of oatmeal, rice and bread. Protein consist mainly of fish and chicken.

[raybia]

Isopure is excellent. It really upsets my stomach, however, so I had to cease using it. It's also rather spendy compared to some of the other products on the market. ON's whey has a really high whey isolate content, anyway, so it's nearly as good in that respect and much more cost effective.

jag

I had the same experience with Isopure too.

[Superman79]

Isopure is excellent. It really upsets my stomach, however, so I had to cease using it. It's also rather spendy compared to some of the other products on the market. ON's whey has a really high whey isolate content, anyway, so it's nearly as good in that respect and much more cost effective.

jag

true...I guess I just like to splurge a bit on my protein purchases :D...that and really I never thought Isopure was that expensive, i'd say it;s mid-range in price. YOu can actually get it at a great price from Proflexsports.com...

[Superman79]

Right now I'm eating three meals a day with some type of snack in between.

I'm not eating a lot of protein right now, but my diet mainly fruits, veggies, and small servings of oatmeal, rice and bread. Protein consist mainly of fish and chicken.

how often do you run and lift?

[raybia]

how often do you run and lift?


I'm currently running 4 miles 3x a week. I haven't lifted for a while so I'm trying to slowly get back into it by doing Push ups and dumbbell curls and sit-ups.

I will start weight training Aug. 1st and will probably lift a Monday/Wednesday/Friday schedule for a couple of months.

Then the plan will be to do a 4 day cycle.

Day 1 - Chest, shoulders, triceps

Day 2 - Back, Biceps

Day 3 - Legs

Day 4 - Rest (cardio, sit-ups)

[Superman79]

I'm currently running 4 miles 3x a week. I haven't lifted for a while so I'm trying to slowly get back into it by doing Push ups and dumbbell curls and sit-ups.

I will start weight training Aug. 1st and will probably lift a Monday/Wednesday/Friday schedule for a couple of months.

Then the plan will be to do a 4 day cycle.

Day 1 - Chest, shoulders, triceps

Day 2 - Back, Biceps

Day 3 - Legs

Day 4 - Rest (cardio, sit-ups)

that's not a bad split for getting back into it...though if I might make a suggestion, wouldn't it be better to have leg day between your chest and your back? that way it's upperbody then lowerbody alternating days (counting cardio as more lower body)...just a thought

[raybia]

that's not a bad split for getting back into it...though if I might make a suggestion, wouldn't it be better to have leg day between your chest and your back? that way it's upperbody then lowerbody alternating days (counting cardio as more lower body)...just a thought


Actually that is a very good idea. I'll try it (I'm usually tired by leg day and historically I don't put forth the best effort.)

[Superman79]

Actually that is a very good idea. I'll try it (I'm usually tired by leg day and historically I don't put forth the best effort.)

there you go...it would certainly make your cardio day a little more productive because you won't have beaten up your lower body the day before, and it'll give your overall upper body a chance to rest up for your back/biceps session :up: Glad to help :D

[jaguarr]

that's not a bad split for getting back into it...though if I might make a suggestion, wouldn't it be better to have leg day between your chest and your back? that way it's upperbody then lowerbody alternating days (counting cardio as more lower body)...just a thought


An excellent suggestion. raybia, I'd also like to see the exercises you're doing for this split, in the order you do them, and your rep/set configuration. We could further help you fine tune things if you post 'em. :)

jag

[raybia]

An excellent suggestion. raybia, I'd also like to see the exercises you're doing for this split, in the order you do them, and your rep/set configuration. We could further help you fine tune things if you post 'em. :)

jag

OK but it will have to be later this evening. :up:

[Superman79]

An excellent suggestion. raybia, I'd also like to see the exercises you're doing for this split, in the order you do them, and your rep/set configuration. We could further help you fine tune things if you post 'em. :)

jag

:up: :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I had the same experience with Isopure too.

Not I, I would down the blue flavor in a second. It's so delicious but WAY too expensive.

[ShadowBoxing]

Since Jag, BoyScout and a few others regularly give out advice here, could a Mod change the name of this thread to "The Official Hype Fitness Thread"

[Holly Goodhead]

How long should you ride a bike for?

[Colossal Spoons]

We'll always owe ya one for startin it bud :up:

[Warhammer]

Should I just eat and eat to gain weight, then turn it into more muscle?

[ShadowBoxing]

How long should you ride a bike for?Maybe like an hour is good. You can go as long as you'd like, depends on what results your aiming for.

[Holly Goodhead]

Oh, I get bored after 30 mins.

[ShadowBoxing]

Oh, I get bored after 30 mins.30 minutes is usually enough. 30-40 minutes of cardio is more than any normal person needs.

[Holly Goodhead]

30 minutes is usually enough. 30-40 minutes of cardio is more than any normal person needs.

I usually ride it for 30 mins in the morning, walk my dogs at night for 30 mins, then ride the bike again for 30 mins.

[Carter]

I usually ride it for 30 mins in the morning

heh

[jaguarr]

I usually ride it for 30 mins in the morning, walk my dogs at night for 30 mins, then ride the bike again for 30 mins.

That's plenty of cardio per day, and then some. Just make sure you're eating enough to support all that activity and that you're getting enough water through the course of a day (especially as hot as it's been).

jag

[jaguarr]

Since Jag, BoyScout and a few others regularly give out advice here, could a Mod change the name of this thread to "The Official Hype Fitness Thread"

A generous gesture, SB. :up: You might have to PM a mod to get the name changed since I don't think any of the mod's ever come in here. I think they're all allergic to exercise. :p

jag

[Speedball]

What's a good distance to go for bikeriders?
I usually go 10 miles a day, should I do more?

[jaguarr]

An excellent suggestion. raybia, I'd also like to see the exercises you're doing for this split, in the order you do them, and your rep/set configuration. We could further help you fine tune things if you post 'em. :)

jag

Hey, rabyia. You ever gonna post this info? :D

jag

[Holly Goodhead]

That's plenty of cardio per day, and then some. Just make sure you're eating enough to support all that activity and that you're getting enough water through the course of a day (especially as hot as it's been).

jag

I eat 1 6-inch tuna sub from Subway and lots of Gatorade/water.

[jaguarr]

What's a good distance to go for bikeriders?
I usually go 10 miles a day, should I do more?

It really depends on how long it's taking you to go 10 miles, which would indicate how hard you're pushing yourself. The kind of bike you're riding can make a difference too. For example, I can do 10 miles in pretty short order on a good road bike, but that same distance will take me a bit longer on a mountain bike or a cruiser. Also depends on what your goals are.

jag

[jaguarr]

I eat 1 6-inch tuna sub from Subway and lots of Gatorade/water.

That's all you eat all day long? :huh:

jag

[Holly Goodhead]

A generous gesture, SB. :up: You might have to PM a mod to get the name changed since I don't think any of the mod's ever come in here. I think they're all allergic to exercise. :p

jag

PM Drakon, he's the only one who does anything.

[Holly Goodhead]

That's all you eat all day long? :huh:

jag

Sometimes I'll have a few grapes, or an apple.

[Speedball]

It's a Trek bike, which is sort of shaped like a mountain bike but without the straight handle bars.
It usually takes me about an hour, sometimes I go more because I wanna get to a full hour.
I'm trying to get from 220 to 200.

[Colossal Spoons]

Gatorade has a good amount of carbs. Something a lot of people overlook. :up:

That doesn't mean you should stop drinking it and go purge Holly :(

[Holly Goodhead]

It has 130 calories. :down
I stick mainly to water. Only Fiji water

[Carter]

I just use my exercise bike for an hour

[jaguarr]

Sometimes I'll have a few grapes, or an apple.

You need to eat more, girl. If you at least keep your protein intake up, it will make a big difference in your energy levels and keep your metabolism stoked.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

It has 130 calories. :down
I stick mainly to water. Only Fiji water

I didn't say calories. I'm talkin about carbs. The stuff that Dr.Atkins and his mind-slaves run away from. :up:

[Holly Goodhead]

Ive been on this diet for a week now and I've pretty much had a headache everyday but I'm thinner. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

No. :down:

[jaguarr]

It's a Trek bike, which is sort of shaped like a mountain bike but without the straight handle bars.
It usually takes me about an hour, sometimes I go more because I wanna get to a full hour.
I'm trying to get from 220 to 200.

Okay, it's good to know what your goals are. An hour is just about right. Any longer than that and your body will start to go catabolic on you. The best time to do cardio if you're trying to cut weight is in the morning before breakfast. This is when your glycogen stores are at their lowest and your body will be forced to convert your stored body fat to tissue early on in your exercise. Just make sure you get a good meal (preferrably high in protein) immediately following your ride. What does your overall diet look like? That's going to be the lynchpin for reaching your goals, but you've got the right idea with the cardio.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Holly, what exactly are you trying to achieve. Thinner in appearance, weight loss, what?

[Holly Goodhead]

How many calories do you think are in a tuna sub from Subway?

Tuna, wheat bread, lettuce, tomatos, cheese, cucumbers.

[Holly Goodhead]

Holly, what exactly are you trying to achieve. Thinner in appearance, weight loss, what?

You can always be thinner.

[jaguarr]

Ive been on this diet for a week now and I've pretty much had a headache everyday but I'm thinner. :up:

What you're doing is bascially a fasting or starvation diet. The moment you begin eating normally again, any weight you lost will come back and then some. These types of diets are extremely hard on the body (the heart and cardiovascular system in particular, not to mention the kidneys and liver as well as mucking hell on your Centeral Nervous System and metabolism) and if done too much over time can lead to a lot of health problems when you get older. You're better off getting a healthy eating system in place and sticking to it religiously so that you'll have better, longer lasting results in keeping your weight where you want it to be.

jag

[Speedball]

Okay, it's good to know what your goals are. An hour is just about right. Any longer than that and your body will start to go catabolic on you. The best time to do cardio if you're trying to cut weight is in the morning before breakfast. This is when your glycogen stores are at their lowest and your body will be forced to convert your stored body fat to tissue early on in your exercise. Just make sure you get a good meal (preferrably high in protein) immediately following your ride. What does your overall diet look like? That's going to be the lynchpin for reaching your goals, but you've got the right idea with the cardio.

jag

My diet pretty much sucks. But I love chicken (which is full of protien :) ), not fried chicken though, that s*** is nasty, but chicken cooked on a grill is good. My problem is I eat too much cheese and pasta.
Thanks for telling me about riding in the morning, I never knew that. I've got about three weeks of vacation, so I'll try to start doing that on monday.

[Colossal Spoons]

Boo to crash dieting. Holly, we've all told you this information like 50000 times. One day, you'll listen and start eating around 2,000 calories a day AND be thin. Yes, it's possible.

[Holly Goodhead]

2000? no way Jose

[Colossal Spoons]

Oy.

[Speedball]

That's the ideal amount of calories for food intake a day. Anything more is converted to fat, anything less, fat will be used by the body for energy.
It might be okay to eat a little less, but getting very few calories can be VERY dangerous.

[Holly Goodhead]

If I eat 2000 calories that means Im going to have to burn off over 2000 calories a day. Riding the bike for 30 mins only burns off like 200 calories. I dont feel like exercising for 5 hours a day to burn off lunch.

[Master Chief]

Why does cheese make peoples fat? :huh:

[Colossal Spoons]

That's the ideal amount of calories for food intake a day. Anything more is converted to fat, anything less, fat will be used by the body for energy.
It might be okay to eat a little less, but getting very few calories can be VERY dangerous.

2000 is reocomended...for a woman. Guys should/can take in muuuuch more than that.

[Colossal Spoons]

Why does cheese make peoples fat? :huh:

As SB will tell you, cheese adds this indestructible layer of fat to your body. It's the hardest to get rid of.

[Speedball]

I think it has a high amount of saturated fat.

[Holly Goodhead]

Oh god, cheese is my favorite food. :csad: Not anymore

[Colossal Spoons]

If I eat 2000 calories that means Im going to have to burn off over 2000 calories a day. Riding the bike for 30 mins only burns off like 200 calories. I dont feel like exercising for 5 hours a day to burn off lunch.

Who told you you had to burn off everything you eat? Where are you getting this info from?

[ShadowBoxing]

You can always be thinner.Well maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner, I don't want to ruin your willpower.

[Holly Goodhead]

Who told you you had to burn off everything you eat? Where are you getting this info from?

I think I read it in Cosmo or some Pro-Ana site

[Master Chief]

As SB will tell you, cheese adds this indestructible layer of fat to your body. It's the hardest to get rid of.

They should make artificial cheese.

[Speedball]

2000 is reocomended...for a woman. Guys should/can take in muuuuch more than that.
Well than WTF! I don't eat more than 2000 calories a day!
My metabolism sucks is why i'm larger than I should be.
My weight should be around 200.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think I read it in Cosmo or some Pro-Ana site

Problem solved.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well than WTF! I don't eat more than 2000 calories a day!
My metabolism sucks is why i'm larger than I should be.
My weight should be around 200.

At school, I take in like 3,000. Guys like Jag and SB even put that to shame by takin in almost 4,000. You have to use your calories wisely:up:

[Enzyme]

If I eat 2000 calories that means Im going to have to burn off over 2000 calories a day. Riding the bike for 30 mins only burns off like 200 calories. I dont feel like exercising for 5 hours a day to burn off lunch.
You do realise that your body burns calories just doing what it does to stay alive. How do you think your blood stays warm?

I think the average female body burns 2000 calories without exercise. I can't say for sure, but you need to eat more than just a sandwhich everyday. The less you eat the more fat you store.

Eating once a day means your body is constantly in starvation mode. Meaning that whenever you do eat, your body will use what it needs to and stores the rest as fat. Your body will continue to feed off of muscle before fat.

So, do what body builders do. Eat 6 small meals a day and your body will increase your metabolism and you won't store as much fat.

At least that's the information I've gathered over the years.

[Holly Goodhead]

No thanks

[Colossal Spoons]

You do realise that your body burns calories just doing what it does to stay alive. How do you think your blood stays warm?

I think the average female body burns 2000 calories without exercise. I can't say for sure, but you need to eat more than just a sandwhich everyday. The less you eat the more fat you store.

Eating once a day means your body is constantly in starvation mode. Meaning that whenever you do eat, your body will use what it needs to and stores the rest as fat. Your body will continue to feed off of muscle before fat.

So, do what body builders do. Eat 6 small meals a day and your body will increase your metabolism and you won't store as much fat.

At least that's the information I've gathered over the years.


I doubt Holly is being serious. She just quoted a Pro-Anorexia site as her source of information.

[Speedball]

At school, I take in like 3,000. Guys like Jag and SB even put that to shame by takin in almost 4,000. You have to use your calories wisely:up:
Okay, i might take in more than 2000, but it's nowhere near 3000.

[Holly Goodhead]

No I'm being serious. I hate eating.