The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[jaguarr]

This time around I have to stay consistent the whole way through. My problem is I'll often get out of the habit of working out when deadlines need to be met at the end of semesters, then a few weeks go by without going to the gym, I start declining, my interest wanes and then all a sudden a few months go by and I'm back to where I started.

Finding ways to keep yourself motivated and committed to it are the biggest trick of all. Everyone finds something different that does that for them.


Oh well, I'll use it up anyways since it has already been payed for.

Oh, yeah, use it up. Just don't ever pay that much for creatine ever again.


Not sure how rapidly absorbable these pills are, but it must be fast enough since they say take them 15 minutes before working out.
They do have BCAA in them, leucine, isoleucine and valine... thats why I bought them, and they have more such as Glutamine and five other amino acids... So in my mind it was even better. Check this link it has the content and a brief product description http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/un/ab.html

Yeah, you're still better off with something like Scivation Xtend or a product called MuscleGuard. It's BCAA's that you mix into water so it's more bioavailable to you in faster fashion. Cheaper, too, in the long run.


So the trick is to get your protein a two hour intervals or something like that?

Every two to three hours you should be getting a balanced, mid-sized meal of protein, carbs & good fats that matches your idyllic caloric intake and macronutrient breakdowns. A shake can be a helpful part of that for a lot of people. Read the nutrition section of my link. That'll give you a better overview.



I want it all lol, to lose weight yet bulk!


It's possible that you're undereating and that's part of what's making you retain the belly. If your metabolism isn't operating at optimum capacity and always has just the right amount of fuel to burn, it can slow down. Most people want to dump the fat and add muscle and that's a hard trick to do. You absolutely have to have your diet set perfectly and be doing just the right amount of cardio in addition to your weight training.


Oh I thought maybe the whey isolate would still rapidly absorb and the casein on the other hand would slowly digest as usual. Then again I don't know how these things work.

It does work that way when you mix casein and whey, but it's a matter of timing. When you get through with a workout, your muscles are essentially starving and looking for the absolute easiest fuel to burn. The easiest fuel for the body to burn when it's gone through it's glycogen stores is muscle. So after a workout, your muscles need immediate nutrition to start with the repair process. That's why you want all whey in your post workout shake, along with maybe some Waxy Maize Starch or maltodextrin or dextrose to help spike the absorption rate, and maybe your creatine and some extra L-Glutamine mixed in to take advantage of the quick absorption. Adding casein to that mix will only slow down the absorption, so it's not advantageous to do it post workout.


It was just 20 bucks for 60 tablets, plus reading up on the ingredients seems to point out all have practical applications... So I'm happy with this purchase. It has the many benefits of fish oil and then a lot of stuff related to kidney and prostate health which is a bonus for men, especially if they are putting a strain on their kidneys with all these supplements!

I pay $15 for a bottle of 160 fish oil caps. Just sayin'. :o


I can imagine they'll keep on pushing things until they get pulled off the market. Oh, and wtf is Goji juice, **** is expensive.

Goji Juice is I believe Hindi for "snake oil". :hehe:


Yah... Yesterday I did my final shot at full body workout. I was in the gym between two thirty and six at night and one of the personal trainers went to talk to me, and he agreed with you. 3 sets of 25 exercises was overkill and I'd be heading for a major crash if I kept it up. He also mentioned something about the central nervous system being at its best in the first hour or something.

It's not just your CNS (Central Nervous System) that has the ~60 minute window, it's also your glycogen stores. It's covered in detail in....yes....you guessed it...the link in my sig. LOL! :D


My body was starting to give out. Less then 10 minutes after I got out of the gym I felt myself crashing hard. I was so completely drained and out of it, up until about an hour and a half later when I was halfway through some African stew!

What did your pre-workout nutrition look like?


Starts getting hard at this point, being that intuned with what I'm eating, but I'll give it a shot.
I certainly am drinking lots of water... I peed 4 times between midnight and 2am before I finally feel asleep.
Nice and clear though.

I think it would be worth your time to map out your idyllic caloric intake and macronutrient breakdowns and track your diet for at least a month to get an idea of how all the things you eat apply against those targets. I think you'll be surprised. You also learn how to adjust your diet to meet those goals more consistenly. I go back and do this same exercise every few months just to see if I'm still doing what I need to be doing with my diet.


I'm sure they just avoid you now.

I don't even go into GNC. There are better, cheaper places to get supplements from.


I'm thinking of doing it like this, Monday I do a hard chest and back workout, Wednesday I target shoulders and legs, and Friday I go to work on my arms.

This is a fairly common split and I actually have a version of it in my link that you might want to check out.


Since my primary goal is to lose the gut I will be doing a half hour cardio beforehand and maybe after the workout.

NO!!!!!!! Not a good idea to do heavy cardio prior to lifting. It depletes your glycogen stores which you absolutely need for optimal lifting. This is covered in more detail in, yes, "the link".


Tuesday and Thursday I'll maybe do an intense ab and neck workout. Plus some more cardio.

I believe abs need three good solid workouts a week, so you might consider making your ab routine a part of your warmup before lifting. It works well for me. As for your neck, what are you doing for exercises.


Now I'm wondering how many exercesises I should do for each muscle group on these days.

2-3 exercises per muscle group. For your goals, of wanting to trim up and put some bulk on, I would stick to the 3 sets of 8 reps on each set. If you're lifting heavy enough with absolutely proper form, you should be almost to the point of failure by the end of each set, especially the last set. And 2-3 different exercises should be PLENTY to properly exhaust your targeted muscle groups for the day.

jag

[jaguarr]

Oh, I think the fact that this has been his last video, and only video in two months....he knows, he knows.

Maybe he'll write an internet marketing book about it. :whatever:

jag

[Bubonic]

Finding ways to keep yourself motivated and committed to it are the biggest trick of all. Everyone finds something different that does that for them.

A good help is having buddies in the gym, so long as they aren't the type to try to chat up a storm.

Oh, yeah, use it up. Just don't ever pay that much for creatine ever again.

It was like 20 bucks for 67 doses, but yes, once it is done with I'll get one of those giant tubs.

Yeah, you're still better off with something like Scivation Xtend or a product called MuscleGuard. It's BCAA's that you mix into water so it's more bioavailable to you in faster fashion. Cheaper, too, in the long run.

I guess pill form must take a few minutes to disolve, and it would be more convinient to be able to mix it up. Maybe if I put the suckers in the blender I can powder them up myself :woot:!

Every two to three hours you should be getting a balanced, mid-sized meal of protein, carbs & good fats that matches your idyllic caloric intake and macronutrient breakdowns. A shake can be a helpful part of that for a lot of people. Read the nutrition section of my link. That'll give you a better overview.

I really need to be finding sometime for that link so I stop bothering you here!

It's possible that you're undereating and that's part of what's making you retain the belly. If your metabolism isn't operating at optimum capacity and always has just the right amount of fuel to burn, it can slow down. Most people want to dump the fat and add muscle and that's a hard trick to do. You absolutely have to have your diet set perfectly and be doing just the right amount of cardio in addition to your weight training.

I'm eating more often now then before, I used to skip breakfast, eat crap for lunch and overeat at super time. I haven't complete cut out fat, I'm getting healthy ones from the fish oil, trail mix, mixed nuts, hummus and avacados.

It does work that way when you mix casein and whey, but it's a matter of timing. When you get through with a workout, your muscles are essentially starving and looking for the absolute easiest fuel to burn. The easiest fuel for the body to burn when it's gone through it's glycogen stores is muscle. So after a workout, your muscles need immediate nutrition to start with the repair process. That's why you want all whey in your post workout shake, along with maybe some Waxy Maize Starch or maltodextrin or dextrose to help spike the absorption rate, and maybe your creatine and some extra L-Glutamine mixed in to take advantage of the quick absorption. Adding casein to that mix will only slow down the absorption, so it's not advantageous to do it post workout.

Is that stuff expensive and does it really boost the absorption a lot? And how about the L-Glutamine?

I pay $15 for a bottle of 160 fish oil caps. Just sayin'. :o

1000mg each?! That is pretty cheap, but I didn't see anything that good in any of the stores near me, I'm in Canada so maybe that has something to do with it.

Goji Juice is I believe Hindi for "snake oil". :hehe:

I bet, it was something like 60 bucks for less then 2 litres of the stuff.

It's not just your CNS (Central Nervous System) that has the ~60 minute window, it's also your glycogen stores. It's covered in detail in....yes....you guessed it...the link in my sig. LOL! :D

So in other words it is usually not worth pushing past the 1 hour mark.

What did your pre-workout nutrition look like?

Woke up, took a spoonful of kre-alk, a couple of the amino bolic pills, waited 20 minutes, had two servings of oatmeal, a banana, an apple, and an orange.

An hour later I heated up some rigatoni(2 cups cooked) with one cup of primavera pasta sauce that I made, tomatoes, zucchini, celery, carrots, spanish onion, onion, green onion, garlic, fine herbs, paprika, cayenne, pepper, spinage, and stuff I'm probably forgetting.

An hour and a half later I was going to the gym, took a couple more amino bolic pills, 2 hydroxycut hardcore pills, a litre of water.

I think it would be worth your time to map out your idyllic caloric intake and macronutrient breakdowns and track your diet for at least a month to get an idea of how all the things you eat apply against those targets. I think you'll be surprised. You also learn how to adjust your diet to meet those goals more consistenly. I go back and do this same exercise every few months just to see if I'm still doing what I need to be doing with my diet.

I'll have to set some time apart one of these days.

I don't even go into GNC. There are better, cheaper places to get supplements from.

Not that much around here. I'd have to try the web but I think shiping cost would make it worthless.

This is a fairly common split and I actually have a version of it in my link that you might want to check out.

Well if it is common I'm hoping it's because it is effective.

NO!!!!!!! Not a good idea to do heavy cardio prior to lifting. It depletes your glycogen stores which you absolutely need for optimal lifting. This is covered in more detail in, yes, "the link".

Ok, well I'm thinking the lifting burns calories anyways and I'll be doing my cardio after.

I believe abs need three good solid workouts a week, so you might consider making your ab routine a part of your warmup before lifting. It works well for me. As for your neck, what are you doing for exercises.

Whats your suggestion for Tuesday and Thursday then?
For my neck I lie on my back with my head lifted and I basically do a 'no' motion 20 times each side, then an up an down 'yes' motion 15 times, and I touch my ears to my shoulder 20 times each side, and I then do slow and smooth circles 10 times each side.

2-3 exercises per muscle group. For your goals, of wanting to trim up and put some bulk on, I would stick to the 3 sets of 8 reps on each set. If you're lifting heavy enough with absolutely proper form, you should be almost to the point of failure by the end of each set, especially the last set. And 2-3 different exercises should be PLENTY to properly exhaust your targeted muscle groups for the day.

jag

I'll have to check that link for more info on how 2-3 exercises can be enough!

[mrvlknight21]

I finally figured out who Colossal Spoons' celebrity twin is....
http://www.purechamp.com/images/sugar-shane-mosley-purechamp.jpg

Speaking of that, Mosley had a great fight last night-knockout victory with 1 second left in the last round!!! Great stuff and he is obviously in amazing shape (he is 37 years old).

[mrvlknight21]

Well, I have a few new goals I want to attain.
Some would categorize these as either feats of strength or just party tricks.

1 is a standing ab wheel rollout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me1ucyFT8jU

2 is a planche pushup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyuJ3T0sQ88


Going to start working on progressions for these 2 tomorrow. Not going to give myself a time table or anything, but I would hope I can get them both done by the end of the year.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

You mean like this MK?

McGelbScgcY

[Scar Predator]

Jogging in warm rain is awesome.
Just saying.
As a rule, I don't like the outdoors but I'll agree on this sentence. Sometimes, I'll go outiside to pound pavement in a summer rainstorm. :yay:

[Bubonic]

Well, I have a few new goals I want to attain.
Some would categorize these as either feats of strength or just party tricks.

1 is a standing ab wheel rollout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me1ucyFT8jU

2 is a planche pushup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyuJ3T0sQ88


Going to start working on progressions for these 2 tomorrow. Not going to give myself a time table or anything, but I would hope I can get them both done by the end of the year.

Whoa.
You must be beastly strong to even be considering this!
I'm not even that hot about the ab wheel rollout since I keep thinking I'll stretch out too far and rip off my shoulders.
And the planche pushup looks amazingly hard, can't be good for your wrist just from the looks of it.

[mrvlknight21]

You mean like this MK?

McGelbScgcY

No way man. A dancer I am not. That guy has some great strength and balance though!

[mrvlknight21]

As a rule, I don't like the outdoors but I'll agree on this sentence. Sometimes, I'll go outiside to pound pavement in a summer rainstorm. :yay:

Yeah, I agree, those runs in summer rain are awesome.

[mrvlknight21]

Whoa.
You must be beastly strong to even be considering this!
I'm not even that hot about the ab wheel rollout since I keep thinking I'll stretch out too far and rip off my shoulders.
And the planche pushup looks amazingly hard, can't be good for your wrist just from the looks of it.

The planche pushup is pretty standard in the gymnastic world actually. Im not as concerned about having/gaining the strength to do it...but I feel the balance will be hard.
I just started doing the progressions for it (basically standard pushups with hands low like in the planche position) and it definitely feels very different than any other pushups I have done...and I have done a LOT.

As far as the ab wheel-it is a nice tool to mix up core training and they are very cheap, about $5 (or you could even make one cheap). If you think your shoulders will pop, just let go of it so you dont keep rolling forward! Just be sure to catch yourself on the way down! :cwink:

[AndThePickles]

Is there anything I can do without weights to strengthen my chest besides pushups? My chest muscles are by far my weakest point...although I'm working on my pushups, I'm not very good at them, and was wondering if there's anything else I can do to build my strength up.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Dips. :up:

Isometric/isotonic pushes and holds. One can be performed in a push up stance with your body lowered and your chest roughly six inches off of the ground. Hold for 30 seconds.

Also take your hands and push them together in front of your chest with your elbows out. Like you are trying to crush a soda can, or Spoons' head. Push as hard as you can for 10 seconds three to five sets.

Those are the things I know that will help without weights.

Also resistance bands. :up:

[Speedball]

So... I found playing Hexic on my Zune today makes my bike rides at the gym MUCH easier and go by faster.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

This has been my big motivator lately while in the gym.

icJLs4t0lLo

[jaguarr]

Is there anything I can do without weights to strengthen my chest besides pushups? My chest muscles are by far my weakest point...although I'm working on my pushups, I'm not very good at them, and was wondering if there's anything else I can do to build my strength up.

Hold Spoons down and make him your ***** for 60 minute sessions. That'll work the tri's and chest. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Well I did a few chinups w/ 70 lbs attached on Saturday and a friend has challenged me to do a rep w. 100lbs today. I have never tried this much added weight for a chinup or pullup before, so I guess we will see.

[mrvlknight21]

This has been my big motivator lately while in the gym.

icJLs4t0lLo

Awesome, I used to love to watch Rodman play. I even had a replica Rodman Spurs jersey. He worked so hard on the court and always went all out...a lot of fun to watch.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah he was a very good player when he wasn't acting like an idiot.

The video just gets me pumped, when I start to get a little worn out towards the end of my workout I put that song on to push through the last few sets or reps or my jog :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Hold Spoons down and make him your ***** for 60 minute sessions. That'll work the tri's and chest. :up:

jag


I can't be contained, detained, restrained, or any other of those things :o

[mrvlknight21]

I can't be contained, detained, restrained, or any other of those things :o

Hey Spoons what do you think of my choice for your celebrity twin?

[Iceman]

I can't be contained, detained, restrained, or any other of those things :oWhat about the being a ***** part?

[AndThePickles]

I can't be contained, detained, restrained, or any other of those things :o

:cmad:

What about the being a ***** part?

That's 24/7! :o :heart:

[jaguarr]

I can't be contained, detained, restrained, or any other of those things :o

What about the being a ***** part?

:cmad:



That's 24/7! :o :heart:

:lmao:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Hey Spoons what do you think of my choice for your celebrity twin?

No way do I look like Sugar Shane lol

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, I'm lookin for some L-Glutamine. I was using the GNC brand but I'm ordering from bb.com. Any suggestions?

[jaguarr]

Ok, I'm lookin for some L-Glutamine. I was using the GNC brand but I'm ordering from bb.com. Any suggestions?

Higher Power brand. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

I am so incredibly happy...

I had put on some weight in the past few weeks, unfortunately, and got back up to 225... but I changed my workout a little bit and I've now started working out at least 2 hours a day now... we're talking weight lifting, and exercise biking (one thing I've been trying to do is get 25 miles a day on the exercise bike, and was able to do that Friday Saturday and tonight) and in the past 2 weeks, I've gotten down to 215

[Colossal Spoons]

Higher Power brand. :up:

jag

Heh, I'd just added 2 bottles to my cart :up:

[jaguarr]

I am so incredibly happy...

I had put on some weight in the past few weeks, unfortunately, and got back up to 225... but I changed my workout a little bit and I've now started working out at least 2 hours a day now... we're talking weight lifting, and exercise biking (one thing I've been trying to do is get 25 miles a day on the exercise bike, and was able to do that Friday Saturday and tonight) and in the past week, I've gotten down to 215

Keep up the good work! :up:

Heh, I'd just added 2 bottles to my cart :up:

I use the Higher Power 1000 powder, not the pre-capped ones. It's cheaper that way. I just mix an extra 5 grams into my shakes. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

I'm kinda surprised to see that you don't have anything on your fitness page on cardiovascular exercise, jag...

[knowsbleed]

If you shorten your rest between sets, you can keep your cardio up during strength training.

[Colossal Spoons]

Won't be able to lift as heavy though. But not everybody is trying to move houses :up:

[knowsbleed]

Reminds me of a yo mama joke.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ah, the 90s

[mrvlknight21]

I'm kinda surprised to see that you don't have anything on your fitness page on cardiovascular exercise, jag...

He has 2 decent size paragraphs about it and mentions it during the basic routine sample.....?

What were you looking for in regards to that? BC Jag is constantly updating his page.

[mrvlknight21]

Well I wasn't able to get the 100lb chinup yesterday unfortunately. I guess I can make that another of my goals since I was challenged on it. Since I can get a few with 70lbs, I guess I will start work sets there.

[mrvlknight21]

No way do I look like Sugar Shane lol

Seriously?
ok then....my bad I guess.

[jaguarr]

I'm kinda surprised to see that you don't have anything on your fitness page on cardiovascular exercise, jag...

What? :huh: Get your glasses checked, son! :D Seriously, it's covered fairly well; I just don't get into it as deep as I do the other topics, primarily because there is so much out there on cardio for people to read, it's crazy. And, cardio is kind of a personal thing and everyone likes something different. I put the page together initially as a way to capture all of these weight training basics that, for whatever reason, I've never seen mapped out very cleanly and semi-completely in an easy to understand format before and because I was getting asked the same questions over and over again so it was easier to just say "read the link in my sig". Of course, some of these other topics are related, such as cardio, so I cover them but not in depth. Is there something you're wanting to see covered there specifically that isn't?

If you shorten your rest between sets, you can keep your cardio up during strength training.

It depends on the goals. If you keep your rest times between sets ~30-60 seconds, you'll up the cardio benefits of the work and your endurance. You won't be able to lift as much in your workout as a general rule with this approach, as Spoons mentioned, but it's primary goal is muscle endurance. If you keep your rest times between ~60-90 seconds, you have a little more time for your muscles to recover and therefore you can lift more weight on each set. This approach is primarily geared towards hypertrophy and strength development. Rest times from ~90-120 seconds (or more in the case of powerlifters) is primarily geared towards strength development because you can maximize the weight you are moving on each set.

jag

[jaguarr]

Well I wasn't able to get the 100lb chinup yesterday unfortunately. I guess I can make that another of my goals since I was challenged on it. Since I can get a few with 70lbs, I guess I will start work sets there.

Watch those rotator cuffs working on this particular goal, Devil. Go slow and easy with the adding of the weight. :up:

jag

[knowsbleed]

It depends on the goals. If you keep your rest times between sets ~30-60 seconds, you'll up the cardio benefits of the work and your endurance. You won't be able to lift as much in your workout as a general rule with this approach, as Spoons mentioned, but it's primary goal is muscle endurance. If you keep your rest times between ~60-90 seconds, you have a little more time for your muscles to recover and therefore you can lift more weight on each set. This approach is primarily geared towards hypertrophy and strength development. Rest times from ~90-120 seconds (or more in the case of powerlifters) is primarily geared towards strength development because you can maximize the weight you are moving on each set.

jag

This is how I work out. I hate cardio and would rather incorporate it into my strength training rather than have a separate cardio workout, though my work requires I do that anyway. Running is for the devil!

[jaguarr]

This is how I work out. I hate cardio and would rather incorporate it into my strength training rather than have a separate cardio workout, though my work requires I do that anyway. Running is for the devil!

I'm not a big fan of running, either. Too hard on my joints these days. I did a lot of it playing soccer and baseball in my younger years and our wrestling coach would make us run until we about threw up (some guys actually would). I'm more into the elliptical or my bike these days, though a good session of jump-rope will kick my ass pretty good as well (but it's not as fun as getting out on the bike and going for a 30 mile ride).

jag

[mrvlknight21]

What? :huh: Get your glasses checked, son! :D Seriously, it's covered fairly well; I just don't get into it as deep as I do the other topics, primarily because there is so much out there on cardio for people to read, it's crazy. And, cardio is kind of a personal thing and everyone likes something different. I put the page together initially as a way to capture all of these weight training basics that, for whatever reason, I've never seen mapped out very cleanly and semi-completely in an easy to understand format before and because I was getting asked the same questions over and over again so it was easier to just say "read the link in my sig". Of course, some of these other topics are related, such as cardio, so I cover them but not in depth. Is there something you're wanting to see covered there specifically that isn't?

jag


Thats what I said and asked him as well (see my post in response to him).
Apparently he didnt read the whole thing or yeah, had some specific question that wasnt covered.

[mrvlknight21]

Watch those rotator cuffs working on this particular goal, Devil. Go slow and easy with the adding of the weight. :up:

jag

Hmmm. I never thought about rotator cuff involvement...I have never had a problem with mine, thankfully. I will probably keep the weight @ 70 until I am proficient with it before moving up.

[mrvlknight21]

This is how I work out. I hate cardio and would rather incorporate it into my strength training rather than have a separate cardio workout, though my work requires I do that anyway. Running is for the devil!

Somebody say my name? Oh...my bad. :woot:

[mrvlknight21]

I'm not a big fan of running, either. Too hard on my joints these days. I did a lot of it playing soccer and baseball in my younger years and our wrestling coach would make us run until we about threw up (some guys actually would). I'm more into the elliptical or my bike these days, though a good session of jump-rope will kick my ass pretty good as well (but it's not as fun as getting out on the bike and going for a 30 mile ride).

jag

Ellipticals are for sissies! :wow:

(runs and hides) :cwink:

[jaguarr]

Ellipticals are for sissies! :wow:

(runs and hides) :cwink:

Maybe, but I don't need to be able to run fast. I just need to be able to get close enough to drag people to the ground and choke them out. :D And anyway, my knees are happier about the elliptical than they would be about running.

jag

[jaguarr]

Hmmm. I never thought about rotator cuff involvement...I have never had a problem with mine, thankfully. I will probably keep the weight @ 70 until I am proficient with it before moving up.

Yup. I know a few guys who have EFF'd up their rotator cuffs trying to do pullups or even pulldowns with too much weight. Something to keep in mind.

I can't be contained, detained, restrained, or any other of those things :o

I just want to say that this rhyme started out strong but the ending was extremely weak. You could set this to the most wicked beat of all time and it would still reek of suck. :(

jag

[NickSox]

Maybe, but I don't need to be able to run fast. I just need to be able to get close enough to drag people to the ground and choke them out. :D And anyway, my knees are happier about the elliptical than they would be about running.

jag

It's been a while since I posted but I have to do the elliptical also, it's not that bad. I had a setback as I was going to pick up my camera at work and the knee started to hurt again. Went to the doc since I know him well (I dont have health insurance yet, have to wait 120 days) He thinks I tore something in my knee. I cant know till next month as an mri is 1500 dollars and my 120 days isnt up till November. So i got a cortizone shot and am toughing it out till then. Anyone else ever had a cortizone shot? It takes away the pain most of the time but I'll still get sharp pains from time to time, at least it's not constant.

[jaguarr]

It's been a while since I posted but I have to do the elliptical also, it's not that bad. I had a setback as I was going to pick up my camera at work and the knee started to hurt again. Went to the doc since I know him well (I dont have health insurance yet, have to wait 120 days) He thinks I tore something in my knee. I cant know till next month as an mri is 1500 dollars and my 120 days isnt up till November. So i got a cortizone shot and am toughing it out till then. Anyone else ever had a cortizone shot? It takes away the pain most of the time but I'll still get sharp pains from time to time, at least it's not constant.

Sorry to hear about the knee. My mother has had each knee scoped and constantly has to get cortisone shots. She's actually going under the knife in about a week to have one completely replaced. They'll probably do the other one sometime next year. I'm praying I didn't inherit her knees since she's already been kind enough to share her neck and back problems with me.

jag

[NickSox]

Sorry to hear about the knee. My mother has had each knee scoped and constantly has to get cortisone shots. She's actually going under the knife in about a week to have one completely replaced. They'll probably do the other one sometime next year. I'm praying I didn't inherit her knees since she's already been kind enough to share her neck and back problems with me.

jag

This'll be my second surgery on this knee if the mri proves the doctor right. Cortizone is helping now but it's only temporary and thats why your mom is getting it replaced, it should be more of a long term than just getting shots all the time. Hopefully her surgery goes well, surgeons are amazing these days and she should be good as new!

[mrvlknight21]

Yup. I know a few guys who have EFF'd up their rotator cuffs trying to do pullups or even pulldowns with too much weight. Something to keep in mind.


jag

You know, 2 of my friends have had rotator cuff surgery within the last 2 years (one of them a week ago) and neither of them workout. I guess theirs were so weak any little thing could cause a problem.

[mrvlknight21]

It's been a while since I posted but I have to do the elliptical also, it's not that bad. I had a setback as I was going to pick up my camera at work and the knee started to hurt again. Went to the doc since I know him well (I dont have health insurance yet, have to wait 120 days) He thinks I tore something in my knee. I cant know till next month as an mri is 1500 dollars and my 120 days isnt up till November. So i got a cortizone shot and am toughing it out till then. Anyone else ever had a cortizone shot? It takes away the pain most of the time but I'll still get sharp pains from time to time, at least it's not constant.

I was kidding about the elliptical anyways. I know a lot of guys *cough old guys cough* who use it bc of bad knees, joints, etc.
I just personally dont like them.

I have had some knee and ankle injuries during basketball and football games in years past so I could end up there as well (once the Wolverine healing factor wears off).

[Manic]

I'm elliptical-tarded. Everytime I get on one, I accidentally end up going backwards at first. After I've paused and started going forward, I do alright for a while, so long as I keep my mind off of my foot movements. As soon as I actually start to think about going forward/backward again, my legs start going in opposite directions and I hit a complete stop.

I stick to running and bikes.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

For some reason a lot of people, well maybe not a lot but a decent amount, seem to have problems on the elliptical. My ex gf couldn't use one without her knees almost popping out of her joints as well as her hips, it took her months before she figured it out.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm elliptical-tarded. Everytime I get on one, I accidentally end up going backwards at first. After I've paused and started going forward, I do alright for a while, so long as I keep my mind off of my foot movements. As soon as I actually start to think about going forward/backward again, my legs start going in opposite directions and I hit a complete stop.

I stick to running and bikes.

Thats kind of funny.
I have used them in the past and I have gone backwards and forwards-just to mix it up.

[jaguarr]

Going backwards on an elliptical will really target the glutes and claves. :up:

jag

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, whenever I use the elliptical I purposely use a setting that gives timed intervals of going forwards and backwards. Hurts so bad!

[percoset]

Yeah, whenever I use the elliptical I purposely use a setting that gives timed intervals of going forwards and backwards. Hurts so bad!

Same here... Hurts so good.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Since being back in the gym I have kept mondays as my chest days and I have really been focusing on dips, leaning forward, elbows out and concentrating hard on my chest. Feels like it has been working :up:

After I do my sets I can feel the burn in my pecs. :up:

Thanks Jag

[jaguarr]

Since being back in the gym I have kept mondays as my chest days and I have really been focusing on dips, leaning forward, elbows out and concentrating hard on my chest. Feels like it has been working :up:

After I do my sets I can feel the burn in my pecs. :up:

Thanks Jag

:up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Seriously?
ok then....my bad I guess.

Haha, no worries. I look like nobody right now w/ my afro and full beard :D

I just want to say that this rhyme started out strong but the ending was extremely weak. You could set this to the most wicked beat of all time and it would still reek of suck. :(

jag

I'll head back to the studio :(

[Bubonic]

So dips are for more then just triceps? I'll give this leaning forward thing a try because I also feel my chest isn't getting enough of a workout... One of the problems is that my arms aren't holding up as long as my chest. They seem to get exhausted before I can properly destroy the area.

[Bubonic]

triple

[jaguarr]

So dips are for more then just triceps? I'll give this leaning forward thing a try because I also feel my chest isn't getting enough of a workout... One of the problems is that my arms aren't holding up as long as my chest. They seem to get exhausted before I can properly destroy the area.


Head down, lean forward, elbows out and use your chest to push for working the lower chest on dips. Head up, lean straight up, elbows in and push with your tri's to work the tri's. :up:

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So dips are for more then just triceps? I'll give this leaning forward thing a try because I also feel my chest isn't getting enough of a workout... One of the problems is that my arms aren't holding up as long as my chest. They seem to get exhausted before I can properly destroy the area.

Yes, chest can be worked very well with dips. Personally I like doing dips with something that has a V shaped hold. You can hit them as I mentioned thanking Jag for, by putting your elbows out so you focus on your chest but for me I still feel like I hit my lower pecs a lot harder when the bars that you hold onto are angled outward.

Like one of the corners of your counter top in your kitchen. :up:

But that's just me.

[Bubonic]

Awesome, I'll try some of that stuff.
The dip thing at my gym does have bars that angle outwards, I usually put my hands in the middle for lack of a better idea.

I rather try this for my lower pecs because I don't feel comfortable doing decline bench, it feels very awkward and I'm never sure if my form is good... Plus I worry about injuring my shoulders.

[Nightmare]

Going backwards on an elliptical will really target the glutes and claves. :up:

jag

Dammit, sucks mine broke.

[jaguarr]

Awesome, I'll try some of that stuff.
The dip thing at my gym does have bars that angle outwards, I usually put my hands in the middle for lack of a better idea.

I rather try this for my lower pecs because I don't feel comfortable doing decline bench, it feels very awkward and I'm never sure if my form is good... Plus I worry about injuring my shoulders.

On dips, never go below your arms being parallel to the ground or you can risk shoulder issues.

jag

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

On dips, never go below your arms being parallel to the ground or you can risk shoulder issues.

jag

Very true. I forgot to mention. :up:

[Bubonic]

So I've started to take my Casein in the late afternoon instead of right before bed, there was the risk of just putting on fat and it made it hard for me to fall asleep anyways.

I mix a serving of it with a cup of milk, a banana, frozen strawberries, and a package of natural oatmeal, does a great job of holding me over until supper!

[mrvlknight21]

Yes, chest can be worked very well with dips. Personally I like doing dips with something that has a V shaped hold. You can hit them as I mentioned thanking Jag for, by putting your elbows out so you focus on your chest but for me I still feel like I hit my lower pecs a lot harder when the bars that you hold onto are angled outward.

Like one of the corners of your counter top in your kitchen. :up:

But that's just me.

Yeah my dip apparatus (which lays on my power rack) angles out. I will often travel back and forth on it, going close and wide...see the pic below.
Its funny to me when people are surprised about using dips for the chest. I used to have a routine of strictly dips and pullups (weighted) to hit the chest and back hard.


http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym010.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

Chest/hamstrings in a few mins. Work!

[mrvlknight21]

Chest/hamstrings in a few mins. Work!

That is an interesting split...mind telling me/us what it consists of?

[kainedamo]

An Israeli guy sold me black mud from the Dead Sea to treat my acne. I mean, his sales pitch was really good, but I've probably wasted my cash. 'Sea spa skin care' its called, and it says made in Israel right on the box.

I'm gonna google this **** and see if I've been scammed.

[mrvlknight21]

An Israeli guy sold me black mud from the Dead Sea to treat my acne. I mean, his sales pitch was really good, but I've probably wasted my cash. 'Sea spa skin care' its called, and it says made in Israel right on the box.

I'm gonna google this **** and see if I've been scammed.

Hmm..sounds like a bunch of crap to me. Why did you post this here...?

[kainedamo]

Okay so, couple minutes of googling.

http://www.squidoo.com/getacneoffyourchest

The "black mud" from the bottom of the Dead Sea Lake is very well known for it's healing properties. The Black mud is applied carefully on your wounds. Black mud can do miracles for your skin. Without using creams, cortisone or antibiotics, the Dead Sea combination of mud salt and sun has been particularly successful in treating severe skin complaints.


http://www.outprize.com/black-acne-soap-p-309.html

Black Mud Soap has a high concentration of Dead Sea vitamins and minerals, as well as vitamin A, olive oil, bergamot, and chamomile. It also contains magnesium, known to be beneficial to bones, muscles and general wellbeing. Daily use will help prevent acne, seborrhea, excess perspiration, herpes, skin fungus, psoriasis, and itching. Dead Sea Mud Soap thoroughly cleans skin pores and leaves skin feeling soft and smooth. For daily use by men, women and children. Directions for use: Lather face and body for 1-2 minutes; rinse well.


The ingredients on this box I have - Minerals, organic matter, propylene glycol, glycerine, isopropyl, palmitate, natural oil and the following minerals: chlorides, sulphates, carbonates, sulphur, sodium, potassium, calcium, iron, lithium - qualitatively - found in small amounts.

I'll let ya know how I get on with this ****.

[Nightmare]

Does it make you lose weight too?

Also, something off topic. Can Birth Control Pills give you a good complection?

[kainedamo]

Hmm..sounds like a bunch of crap to me. Why did you post this here...?

Health and fitness and all that.

Acne had been on my mind a bunch lately. The **** is all over my back and I'm sick of getting it on my neck and I'm not very photogenic when ya get close. It's also a pain in the ass when I shave.

The guy had caught me at the right time 'cause I was looking for somewhere to turn and my doctor hasn't been much use.

[Nightmare]

Wow, all over your back and neck? poor guy.

[kainedamo]

It's a pain in the ass. And occasionally I'll get a little yellow ****er just begging to be popped under my nose or something.

[Colossal Spoons]

That is an interesting split...mind telling me/us what it consists of?

Quads and calves
Chest and hamstrings
Back and calves
Shoulders and abs
Biceps and triceps

Found it in my Men's Fitness mag. I like it a lot :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Quads and calves
Chest and hamstrings
Back and calves
Shoulders and abs
Biceps and triceps

Found it in my Men's Fitness mag. I like it a lot :up:

Cool, but I actually meant what exercises you are doing for today (chest and hammies).

Which Men's Fitness mag? The latest one with Forrest Griffin on it (he is from where I live, you know). If that is the one, just say so, I have a copy of it.

[mrvlknight21]

Health and fitness and all that.

Acne had been on my mind a bunch lately. The **** is all over my back and I'm sick of getting it on my neck and I'm not very photogenic when ya get close. It's also a pain in the ass when I shave.

The guy had caught me at the right time 'cause I was looking for somewhere to turn and my doctor hasn't been much use.

I know how you feel, I am 33 years old and still get some on my back. Not a lot, and not often though. I dont get any on my face, strangely.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ah ha:

DB Incline Bench Press
DB Flat Bench Press
DB Incline Flys
Lying Hamstring Curl
Seated Hamstring Curl

I need a new hamstring exercise though, not feelin the seated hammy curls.

Yeah, this was from a few issues ago. Or maybe it was Muscle&Fitness. The guys at work just give me their fitness magazines; but I only subscribe to Men's Health and Men's Fitness :D

[mrvlknight21]

Ah ha:

DB Incline Bench Press
DB Flat Bench Press
DB Incline Flys
Lying Hamstring Curl
Seated Hamstring Curl

I need a new hamstring exercise though, not feelin the seated hammy curls.

Yeah, this was from a few issues ago. Or maybe it was Muscle&Fitness. The guys at work just give me their fitness magazines :D

Do you have something that you can do a glute ham raise on (like a glute ham raise station-duh!) Some people make their own, but I always wonder if they are padded enough.

Have you ever tried them? Humbling exercise my friend, very humbling.
Check it out:

here it is on a GHR bench (not a hyperextension/roman chair)-first exercise you see him do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0EhMFAQhvM&feature=related

(by the way,that is Bert Sorin of Sorinex who is an incedibly strong and knowledgeable guy-he competes in Highland Games. They have an AWESOME faility in Columbia, SC and makes some pricey, but superb equipment).

with a partner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44DAxF6bneY

and on a homemade GHR bench
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7hw_eyl0S8

[AndThePickles]

Also, something off topic. Can Birth Control Pills give you a good complection?

They help some women whose breakouts are purely hormonal. It depends on the person and the pill.

Health and fitness and all that.


Kaine, you do know that this is purely a fitness thread? :huh:

[mrvlknight21]

Pickles-note that he added "and all that"

[AndThePickles]

Pickles-note that he added "and all that"

Too bad "and all that" isn't in the thread title, too :o Although, perhaps it is in Kaine's mind :csad:

I've been picking on him a lot today, however, so I should probably stop before it comes off as not teasing but mean :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

That looks crazy hard. Wish I had that piece of equipment

[mrvlknight21]

Too bad "and all that" isn't in the thread title, too :o Although, perhaps it is in Kaine's mind :csad:

I've been picking on him a lot today, however, so I should probably stop before it comes off as not teasing but mean :csad:

Yeah, exactly what I thought (in his mind it made sense).

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

That looks crazy hard. Wish I had that piece of equipment

You can actually do them at the gym with some creative equipment moving around. :up:

[Nightmare]

They help some women whose breakouts are purely hormonal. It depends on the person and the pill.


Interesting. I had never heard about that before till last night. Some girl i was dating said that thats why she has a good complection.

[jaguarr]

I know how you feel, I am 33 years old and still get some on my back. Not a lot, and not often though. I dont get any on my face, strangely.

It doesn't get any better as you're approaching 40, I'm here to tell you. Especially if you wind up going on HRT early in life and the new influx of testosterone brings on oily skin. And....with that, I think the sharing window has now officially been closed. :o

jag

[jaguarr]

Too bad "and all that" isn't in the thread title, too :o Although, perhaps it is in Kaine's mind :csad:

I've been picking on him a lot today, however, so I should probably stop before it comes off as not teasing but mean :csad:

Pickles is an eBully. :boba:

jag

[Nightmare]

She could push me around anytime. :)

[Colossal Spoons]

I've hit a bit of a plateau on my deadlifts. I'm goin for 3 sets of 6. I'm getting 6x235 and 6x285, but I haven't been able to push past 4x320 for 2 weeks now. I had just moved up from 6x315

I'm totally stumped as to how to get those last 2 reps. Do I lower the weight on the first 2 sets? Steroids?(j/k) I'm deadlifting every week BTW. I know jag only deadlifts every 2 weeks

Heeeeelp :(

[AndThePickles]

I've hit a bit of a plateau on my deadlifts. I'm goin for 3 sets of 6. I'm getting 6x235 and 6x285, but I haven't been able to push past 4x320 for 2 weeks now. I had just moved up from 6x315

I'm totally stumped as to how to get those last 2 reps. Do I lower the weight on the first 2 sets? Steroids?(j/k) I'm deadlifting every week BTW. I know jag only deadlifts every 2 weeks

Heeeeelp :(

I still feel like you got spoiled by moving up in numbers so quickly before, and a 2 week plateau doesn't seem like a big deal to me. But maybe I'm wrong :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I just hate the fact that my log book hasn't changed 3 times now

[AndThePickles]

Haha, that's such an anal thing to hate! Who cares as long as your muscles are progressing?

[Colossal Spoons]

I can't see my lower back, woman! I have no clue if those muscles are progressing besides looking at my numbers lol. Deads are such a compound lift, I could never tell if they're the cause for muscle growth all over my body of if it's other exercises.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I just hate the fact that my log book hasn't changed 3 times now


Lol, do work son!

I know how you feel though, I can feel myself getting strong and I know in two or three weeks my body will have less fat on it which I will be able to tell. But I will not be much bigger because I am not moving that much weight yet. Plus my lifting program is aimed more at just getting back into it right now.

:up:


On another note I went rock climbing again for the second time in a few months, I went several times when I was younger and loved it. Really good upper body workout, especially grip and hand strength. :up:

Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with it or any advice for me?

[Colossal Spoons]

Rock climbing is awesome. I keep meaning to go again sometime. I need to learn to use my legs more cuz my biceps and forearms fatigue way too early.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lol, yeah I learned that when I was young. My arms were so so the first time I went I couldn't snap my fingers the next day no matter how hard I tried. lol

[Super Kal]

He has 2 decent size paragraphs about it and mentions it during the basic routine sample.....?

What were you looking for in regards to that? BC Jag is constantly updating his page.
lol, no wonder i couldn't find it :p... it's just a picture with words, so i can't search anything specific out

[AndThePickles]

Rock climbing is awesome. I keep meaning to go again sometime. I need to learn to use my legs more cuz my biceps and forearms fatigue way too early.

For me, my grip is the first to go. Sore finger-joints :csad:

[jaguarr]

I've hit a bit of a plateau on my deadlifts. I'm goin for 3 sets of 6. I'm getting 6x235 and 6x285, but I haven't been able to push past 4x320 for 2 weeks now. I had just moved up from 6x315

I'm totally stumped as to how to get those last 2 reps. Do I lower the weight on the first 2 sets? Steroids?(j/k) I'm deadlifting every week BTW. I know jag only deadlifts every 2 weeks

Heeeeelp :(

Best way I know of to break a plateau on deads is to start adding five more pounds to your base lifts, even if you don't get all six reps. Squeeze out five reps at 240 (six reps if you can) and five reps at 290. And then hit your 320. Make sure you do a couple of lighter sets to warm up before you head for the heavier stuff, too. Even just a couple of reps at a couple of lower weights. Really what it takes is just keeping at it and trying to add weight. The other approach you can take is to do a rep or two more at 235 and 285 and build up some muscle endurance that way to help break the plateau.

jag

[jaguarr]

lol, no wonder i couldn't find it :p... it's just a picture with words, so i can't search anything specific out

If anyone wants to steal my fitness primer and try to pass it off as their own, they've got their work cut out for them. ;)

jag

[Manic]

Jeeze. The gym was unusually full today. Tuesday is typically my leg day, but practically every press, curl, and extension machine was taken when I got out of the locker room. I said "**** it" and just did my shoulders. I'll do legs Wednesday night.

Quick question, as this has been bothering me for a while. Do traps count as part of your shoulders, or part of your back? Because I've been doing my traps during the days I workout my back.

[Colossal Spoons]

Best way I know of to break a plateau on deads is to start adding five more pounds to your base lifts, even if you don't get all six reps. Squeeze out five reps at 240 (six reps if you can) and five reps at 290. And then hit your 320. Make sure you do a couple of lighter sets to warm up before you head for the heavier stuff, too. Even just a couple of reps at a couple of lower weights. Really what it takes is just keeping at it and trying to add weight. The other approach you can take is to do a rep or two more at 235 and 285 and build up some muscle endurance that way to help break the plateau.

jag

Fantastic. Tomorrow :up:

[Super Kal]

If anyone wants to steal my fitness primer and try to pass it off as their own, they've got their work cut out for them. ;)

jag
lol, my goal was never to steal... just to look up valuable info without going through the entire thing :O

[mrvlknight21]

Jeeze. The gym was unusually full today. Tuesday is typically my leg day, but practically every press, curl, and extension machine was taken when I got out of the locker room. I said "**** it" and just did my shoulders. I'll do legs Wednesday night.

Quick question, as this has been bothering me for a while. Do traps count as part of your shoulders, or part of your back? Because I've been doing my traps during the days I workout my back.

Good question. I used to work traps w/ shoulders too, but technically I believe they are considered part of the back. Some exercises will hit both like the upright row, so train accordingly (you could do them on the same day).
I am open to other thoughts and opinions on this subject.

[mrvlknight21]

lol, my goal was never to steal... just to look up valuable info without going through the entire thing :O

Lazy research huh? The whole thing isnt very long, its not like it takes days to read. :cwink:
But seriously, was there some specific cardio question that was not covered?

[jaguarr]

Jeeze. The gym was unusually full today. Tuesday is typically my leg day, but practically every press, curl, and extension machine was taken when I got out of the locker room. I said "**** it" and just did my shoulders. I'll do legs Wednesday night.

Quick question, as this has been bothering me for a while. Do traps count as part of your shoulders, or part of your back? Because I've been doing my traps during the days I workout my back.

I work my traps on the same day I train my shoulders. You could work them on either back or shoulder day and probably be fine. I do it out of a time management need with my workouts.

lol, my goal was never to steal... just to look up valuable info without going through the entire thing :O

Oh, I know you're not looking to steal it, just learn from it. Maybe I'll add a clickable table of contents to it to make it a little easier to navigate to the specific topics. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Anyone here use or ever use a neck developer?
(basically a harness that goes around your head, you attach weights to the chain and do neck exercises).
like this:
http://www.everlast.com/everlast-neck-developer.html

I am in the market for one and found several brands that are about the same price. I cant afford a super duper professional one (Ironmind), so this will have to be in the $20 and under range.

Any reviews/opinions/past experiences?

Thanks!

[kainedamo]

Too bad "and all that" isn't in the thread title, too :o Although, perhaps it is in Kaine's mind :csad:

I've been picking on him a lot today, however, so I should probably stop before it comes off as not teasing but mean :csad:

Haha! Not at all, Pickles :) I haven't noticed.

Anyways, I just assumed this thread encompassed different health topics as well as fitness.

[Super Kal]

Lazy research huh? The whole thing isnt very long, its not like it takes days to read. :cwink:
But seriously, was there some specific cardio question that was not covered?
no, i was just looking for generic info

[jaguarr]

Anyone here use or ever use a neck developer?
(basically a harness that goes around your head, you attach weights to the chain and do neck exercises).
like this:
http://www.everlast.com/everlast-neck-developer.html

I am in the market for one and found several brands that are about the same price. I cant afford a super duper professional one (Ironmind), so this will have to be in the $20 and under range.

Any reviews/opinions/past experiences?

Thanks!

I haven't used one of those since my wrestling days. What brands are you looking at?

jag

[mrvlknight21]

I haven't used one of those since my wrestling days. What brands are you looking at?

jag

I found a few on ebay (and other places)

1) Everlast (some of their stuff is ok, some of it is pure crap)
2) Mir (I know of their weight vests)
3) Grizzly (I know of their weight belts)
4) unnamed brand (??)

I saw them on several places like karate supply websites, sports equipment websites and so on. I have to order it because I havent been able to find any locally.

If I remember right you have a Grizzly weight belt, right Jag?

[amazingfantasy15]

Lol, do work son!

I know how you feel though, I can feel myself getting strong and I know in two or three weeks my body will have less fat on it which I will be able to tell. But I will not be much bigger because I am not moving that much weight yet. Plus my lifting program is aimed more at just getting back into it right now.

:up:

On another note I went rock climbing again for the second time in a few months, I went several times when I was younger and loved it. Really good upper body workout, especially grip and hand strength. :up:

Just wondering if anyone here has any experience with it or any advice for me?

I joined a rock climbing class a couple years ago, the instructor told us, we should try and use our upper body as little as possible actually.

[jaguarr]

I found a few on ebay (and other places)

1) Everlast (some of their stuff is ok, some of it is pure crap)
2) Mir (I know of their weight vests)
3) Grizzly (I know of their weight belts)
4) unnamed brand (??)

I saw them on several places like karate supply websites, sports equipment websites and so on. I have to order it because I havent been able to find any locally.

If I remember right you have a Grizzly weight belt, right Jag?

I'd go with Grizzly. I have one of their dip belts and the quality is exceptional. :up:

jag

[jaguarr]

I joined a rock climbing class a couple years ago, the instructor told us, we should try and use our upper body as little as possible actually.

Yeah, I received that same bit of guidance from some rock jockeys I've climbed a couple of real cliff faces with. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

I'd go with Grizzly. I have one of their dip belts and the quality is exceptional. :up:

jag

Had a feeling you would say that. :oldrazz:

[JStorm]

I will beat everyone of your faces with a curl bar!

[JStorm]

I will beat everyone of your faces with a curl bar!

[jaguarr]

I will beat everyone of your faces with a curl bar!

You really won't like what I do to you with my Dip Belt in retaliation, then.

jag

[JStorm]

You really won't like what I do to you with my Dip Belt in retaliation, then.

jag

Always a homecoming, in this place.

:up:

[Abstract]

So I missed a few days of workouts because I was away visiting my family. Should I make up for the missed days or continue on with the week as if I had done them?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I will beat everyone of your faces with a curl bar!


You'd have to catch me first. Have you been doing your sprints slow poke?

[Colossal Spoons]

Finally!

When I asked for deadlift help, I had my numbers wrong(It's actually 235, 295, 340 but w/e). I got that 5th rep for 340 today. :up: I wasn't gonna be able to go to sleep if I didn't get it, no bull. That's how frustrating this has been lol. Feelin good :D

[mrvlknight21]

I will beat everyone of your faces with a curl bar!

You gotta go buy one first.

[mrvlknight21]

You'd have to catch me first. Have you been doing your sprints slow poke?

Take a guess. :o

[JStorm]

Take a guess. :o

Sprinted my ass off, today.


All of you - *****es.

[JStorm]

You gotta go buy one first.

Got my Reebok's. Don't need a singular bar. :down

[AndThePickles]

Finally!

When I asked for deadlift help, I had my numbers wrong(It's actually 235, 295, 340 but w/e). I got that 5th rep for 340 today. :up: I wasn't gonna be able to go to sleep if I didn't get it, no bull. That's how frustrating this has been lol. Feelin good :D

Ha! Glad you're happy now, silly ass.

[Colossal Spoons]

You have no idea. Right before I got down to pick up the barbell, I couldn't help but mutter "Not again". I probably looked like a crazy but whatever. I did work!

[Golgo-13]

I'm sore as sore can be right now. I've been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 6 days a weeks for the past 2 weeks(as opposed to 3X a week) cause i have a tournament coming up. Every muscle in my body feels like it's been beaten with a cane!

[AndThePickles]

You have no idea. Right before I got down to pick up the barbell, I couldn't help but mutter "Not again". I probably looked like a crazy but whatever. I did work!

You're always either muttering or yelling weird **** in the gym...if anyone heard you they probably just thought, "There goes that crazy grizzled black man again" :o

[mrvlknight21]

You're always either muttering or yelling weird **** in the gym...if anyone heard you they probably just thought, "There goes that crazy grizzled black man again that looks like Sugar Shane Mosley" :o


(fixed your statement) :grin::cwink:

[mrvlknight21]

I'm sore as sore can be right now. I've been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 6 days a weeks for the past 2 weeks(as opposed to 3X a week) cause i have a tournament coming up. Every muscle in my body feels like it's been beaten with a cane!

Awesome, I definitely hope I can start doing some MMA at the beginning of the year like I planned. Tell us how the tournament goes!!!

by the way, did you get that PM?

[Colossal Spoons]

You're always either muttering or yelling weird **** in the gym...if anyone heard you they probably just thought, "There goes that crazy grizzled black man again" :o

Yeah buddy!

(fixed your statement) :grin::cwink:

Haha, maybe if I got punched in my nose 700000 times

[mrvlknight21]

Haha, maybe if I got punched in my nose 700000 times

Well come on down here, I could use a sparring dummy...err partner.

[JStorm]

I got 5/1 odds on the Afro-American.

[mrvlknight21]

I got 5/1 odds on the Afro-American.

Fool...havent you seen Rocky?
oh..wait...he loses in that one doesnt he....well have you seen Rocky 2!!!

[AndThePickles]

(fixed your statement) :grin::cwink:

Haha, oh lord. Spoons is SO much better looking than him lol.

[mrvlknight21]

Haha, oh lord. Spoons is SO much better looking than him lol.

Well Im sure we all agree on that. :grin::grin:

[JStorm]

Fool...havent you seen Rocky?
oh..wait...he loses in that one doesnt he....well have you seen Rocky 2!!!

First, your opening statement should be a direct quote from Rocky III - "Fool."

Second, of course I've seen Rocky.

Third, any man that wear flip-flops, I can kick his ass

Fourth, watched the second episode of the eighth season of Smallville.

Fifth, Tom Welling wears flip-flops.

[mrvlknight21]

First, your opening statement should be a direct quote from Rocky III - "Fool."

Second, of course I've seen Rocky.

Third, any man that wear flip-flops, I can kick his ass

Fourth, watched the second episode of the eighth season of Smallville.

Fifth, Tom Welling wears flip-flops.

Word. Now stop stealing my lines!

If I EVER see Tom Welling, I am going to kick his ass. You can quote me on that!

[Colossal Spoons]

I hated Dolph Lundgren for many years b/c of Rocky 4

[Golgo-13]

Awesome, I definitely hope I can start doing some MMA at the beginning of the year like I planned. Tell us how the tournament goes!!!

by the way, did you get that PM?

Yeah, thanks i got it. I already have a few Kettelbell vids and books.

My tournament is Nov 1st, so i a have a month to get back to where i was before i hurt my back. I really need to build back up my endurance/ anaerobic output. I just got my purple belt, so it'll be my first time competing as a purple belt.

[JStorm]

Word. Now stop stealing my lines!

If I EVER see Tom Welling, I am going to kick his ass. You can quote me on that!
Shut up.

I hated Dolph Lundgren for many years b/c of Rocky 4
I soooooo want to be racist right now.

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, thanks i got it. I already have a few Kettelbell vids and books.

My tournament is Nov 1st, so i a have a month to get back to where i was before i hurt my back. I really need to build back up my endurance/ anaerobic output. I just got my purple belt, so it'll be my first time competing as a purple belt.

Cool. I got some MMA stuff for sale too, but if you dont need it, no problem.

Good luck man, how are the rounds structured (how many minutes, how many rounds and how much rest between)?

[Colossal Spoons]

W/e, he didn't have to kill him :(

[JStorm]

W/e, he didn't have to kill him :(

"If he dies, he dies."




"Living in America. . . I feel good."



Did anyone else see the irony in the ENTIRE scene.

[mrvlknight21]

I soooooo want to be racist right now.

You are racist. You dont have to want to. Congratulations, you made it.:o

[JStorm]

You are racist. You dont have to want to. Congratulations, you made it.:o

Take your slap-happy, ass to bed.


I will break my foot off in your ass. One more time, Devil. Talk **** one more time.

[mrvlknight21]

"If he dies, he dies."




"Living in America. . . I feel good."



Did anyone else see the irony in the ENTIRE scene.

James Brown...from my hometown...AUGUSTA baby!

Seriously...JB's "super bad" kicks ass!!!

PS I now have 2 James Brown shirts...
the "James Brown says stay in school" and
"The JB's...doing it to death"

[mrvlknight21]

Take your slap-happy, ass to bed.


I will break my foot off in your ass. One more time, Devil. Talk **** one more time.

What are you going to do...you cant even get over here legally!! :cwink::woot:

[JStorm]

James Brown...from my hometown...AUGUSTA baby!

Seriously...JB's "super bad" kicks ass!!!

PS I now have 2 James Brown shirts...
the "James Brown says stay in school" and
"The JB's...doing it to death"

Now THAT I need.


Me and you need to figure this P90x bull****. I need to be in front of your laptop, for a few minutes. Even if I downloaded for you, we are looking at 8 gigs of video files. We'll get there, though. :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Now THAT I need.


Me and you need to figure this P90x bull****. I need to be in front of your laptop, for a few minutes. Even if I downloaded for you, we are looking at 8 gigs of video files. We'll get there, though. :up:

Yeah, I ordered that JB shirt a few weeks ago.

Do I need to get a 10gb thumbdrive?

[JStorm]

What are you going to do...you cant even get over here legally!! :cwink::woot:

Under the belt.


:( :down



Speaking of - we need to figure out tomorrow. Meet me at the studio?

[mrvlknight21]

Under the belt.


:( :down



Speaking of - we need to figure out tomorrow. Meet me at the studio?

Thats right...dont F*** with a Jedi master (name that movie).

Yeah, I can get you there tomorrow.

[JStorm]

Yeah, I ordered that JB shirt a few weeks ago.

Do I need to get a 10gb thumbdrive?

No. . no. . no.

You have enough space on your laptop. If I download it, directly to yours, we have no worries. I'm just thinking five steps ahead - meaning I have to download it to mine, because I can not use Jag's information.


One step at a time.

[JStorm]

Thats right...dont F*** with a Jedi master (name that movie).

Yeah, I can get you there tomorrow.

"Strikes Back"??


Cool. :up:

[jaguarr]

Finally!

When I asked for deadlift help, I had my numbers wrong(It's actually 235, 295, 340 but w/e). I got that 5th rep for 340 today. :up: I wasn't gonna be able to go to sleep if I didn't get it, no bull. That's how frustrating this has been lol. Feelin good :D

Awesome! Keep at it! :up:

I'm sore as sore can be right now. I've been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 6 days a weeks for the past 2 weeks(as opposed to 3X a week) cause i have a tournament coming up. Every muscle in my body feels like it's been beaten with a cane!

I actually know what that feels like! :kinky: :ninja: Good luck in the tournament!

jag

[mrvlknight21]

"Strikes Back"??
Cool. :up:

Very good, spoken by Mark Hamill (aka Adam Mullis) himself.

[mrvlknight21]

Welcome Jag.
We love you.

[JStorm]

Welcome Jag.
We love you.

Gay as hell.

[mrvlknight21]

Gay as hell.

Pics or GTFO.

[JStorm]

pics or gtfo.

Gay as hell!!

[mrvlknight21]

dont get banned dude.
I already know what that is.
not cool.

[Abstract]

I've miss a few days of training and I was wondering whether or not I should make up for it or continue on as if I'd done it and continue with what I would normally do today?

[mrvlknight21]

I've miss a few days of training and I was wondering whether or not I should make up for it or continue on as if I'd done it and continue with what I would normally do today?

If u missed, u missed. Dont worry about it, go to your normal schedule.

[Abstract]

Sweet, thanks for the advice man.

[Golgo-13]

Cool. I got some MMA stuff for sale too, but if you dont need it, no problem.

Good luck man, how are the rounds structured (how many minutes, how many rounds and how much rest between)?

For purple belts, the rounds are 6 minutes long for those in the MASTER division like me (''Master just means ppl between the age of 30-35; i'm 33). We're broken up into weight brackets;

Rooster,Super Feather, Feather,Light, Middle, Middle Heavy, Heavy, Super Heavy and Super heavy Heavy.

I'm in Light weight as i weight 165lb. Light weight is for those between 152 and 167lbs.

1 round per opponent, with the opponent scoring the most 'position points' or tapping their opponent out, moving on to the next round.

The number of matches you'll have depends on the amount of ppl that show up in your division. So if only 3 ppl show up for my division, (there are only 3medals Gold, Silver, bronze) no matter how i do, i'm at least guarenteed a bronze medal even if i loose. If 10 ppl show up then we'll be paired off, then the 5 winnners of those matches will then be paired off, until we end up with the top 3-who will get medals for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places.

You get about 5-10 minute rests inbetween matches.

[mrvlknight21]

For purple belts, the rounds are 6 minutes long for those in the MASTER division like me (''Master just means ppl between the age of 30-35; i'm 33). We're broken up into weight brackets;

Rooster,Super Feather, Feather,Light, Middle, Middle Heavy, Heavy, Super Heavy and Super heavy Heavy.

I'm in Light weight as i weight 165lb. Light weight is for those between 152 and 167lbs.

1 round per opponent, with the opponent scoring the most 'position points' or tapping their opponent out, moving on to the next round.

The number of matches you'll have depends on the amount of ppl that show up in your division. So if only 3 ppl show up for my division, (there are only 3medals Gold, Silver, bronze) no matter how i do, i'm at least guarenteed a bronze medal even if i loose. If 10 ppl show up then we'll be paired off, then the 5 winnners of those matches will then be paired off, until we end up with the top 3-who will get medals for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places.

You get about 5-10 minute rests inbetween matches.

Dang..6 minutes of work. That is awesome.
I wish you luck man. By the way, I didnt know we were the same age!

[JStorm]

You work tomorrow, Devil?

[Bubonic]

god dam i got visually assaulted.

[mrvlknight21]

You work tomorrow, Devil?

yeah.
In fact, I am about to get ready for bed.
Whats up?

[Golgo-13]

Dang..6 minutes of work. That is awesome.
I wish you luck man. By the way, I didnt know we were the same age!

Ha! I just had a baby also. A girl; named her Lydia. Born Aug 18. She's my second as i also have a six year old boy. I'm sure you know this but i'm not getting any sleep right now! That ontop of my training is really killing me. I'm done with kids now though.

Ppl tell me i've got the perfect pair; one boy and one girl.:woot:

[JStorm]

yeah.
In fact, I am about to get ready for bed.
Whats up?

Just seeing what time to be at the studio.


I'll get with your in the AM.

[mrvlknight21]

Ha! I just had a baby also. A girl; named her Lydia. Born Aug 18. She's my second as i also have a six year old boy. I'm sure you know this but i'm not getting any sleep right now! That ontop of my training is really killing me. I'm done with kids now though.

Ppl tell me i've got the perfect pair; one boy and one girl.:woot:

Awesome man. Yeah I want a boy also...but after all the drama with this one...she may be the first and last!

Awesome stuff.

[mrvlknight21]

Just seeing what time to be at the studio.


I'll get with your in the AM.

Be there about 5 or 530. I will get you as soon as I can (545?).
have all your training gear!

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow, my cut in Nov/Dec is gonna be interesting. I'm trying to transition into the new diet by eating lots of fruits and veggies and counting them as little meals. I just at a huge freaking salad and I'm still starving. This thing was like 5 servings worth! My stomach really needs to shrink :(

[AndThePickles]

Wow, my cut in Nov/Dec is gonna be interesting. I'm trying to transition into the new diet by eating lots of fruits and veggies and counting them as little meals. I just at a huge freaking salad and I'm still starving. This thing was like 5 servings worth! My stomach really needs to shrink :(

Teehee. I hate to see you suffer, but this will be most interesting :o

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm gonna be grumpy and hungry

[Abstract]

On the days that I lift, how long should I be lifting for?

[Colossal Spoons]

No more than an hour, that's a fact.

I keep my workouts between 40-60 mins. I usually do 2-3 muscle groups too with 90sec rest periods in between sets

[Abstract]

Thanks.
I've been doing all this for years on my own with little to no clue what I was really doing until I started looking into it and reading here a couple of months back. Good to have people I can ask about it.
I feel like such a noob :P

[Colossal Spoons]

We were all n00bs once :D

[AndThePickles]

I'm gonna be grumpy and hungry

:csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

but losing fat :up:

[AndThePickles]

I'll make you less grumpy by filling your stomach with compliments!

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, the only compliments I'll want will need to covered in cheese and very garlic-y

[AndThePickles]

Haha, the only compliments I'll want will need to covered in cheese and very garlic-y

I'll cook you occasional "you've been a good boy" cheat meals :o

[Super Kal]

edit

it was heartburn

[Nightmare]

Its heartburn.

[Super Kal]

edit

you're right... it is heartburn

[Colossal Spoons]

http://asymptotia.com/wp-images/2008/03/alien_from_the_movie.png

Sorry Super-Kal :(

[Super Kal]

lmao... good one :up:

but yeah, I think I'm gonna cut it back to 15 miles a day

[Colossal Spoons]

Hope you feel better dood.

[mrvlknight21]

had a small bit of chest pain today... and that's bad... so I'm gonna cut back on how much cardio I do a day.

Are you sure its related to the cardio?

[mrvlknight21]

lmao... good one :up:

but yeah, I think I'm gonna cut it back to 15 miles a day

15 miles a day...??
Are you being serious?
Is this on a bike, treadmill, ......running, walking or what?

There are better ways to get that cardio in that arent so time consuming is why I ask. Dont waste your time, time is valuable. If there is a more efficient way of burning fat, wouldnt you prefer to do it?

Just asking. I hate to see someone doing extra work without extra benefits.

[mrvlknight21]

Wow, my cut in Nov/Dec is gonna be interesting. I'm trying to transition into the new diet by eating lots of fruits and veggies and counting them as little meals. I just at a huge freaking salad and I'm still starving. This thing was like 5 servings worth! My stomach really needs to shrink :(

Im the same way. When I eat right...I stay hungry!

Any more details about the specifics of this diet?

I mentioned earlier, I am reading about the Paleo Diet. It seems a bit more simple than some of the ones I have looked into lately.

[jaguarr]

On the days that I lift, how long should I be lifting for?

See link in sig.

had a small bit of chest pain today... and that's bad... so I'm gonna cut back on how much cardio I do a day.

Chest pains = GO SEE THE DOCTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am serious about that.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, doctor that sh**.

[AndThePickles]

Im the same way. When I eat right...I stay hungry!


Lately I've been trying to fill in my hunger-gaps with lots of tea. It fills me up briefly, and from everything I've read, green tea is super awesome for you.

[Super Kal]

believe me, jag, I would see a doctor... but as or fight now, I can't afford a doctor's appointment
15 miles a day...??
Are you being serious?
Is this on a bike, treadmill, ......running, walking or what?

it's all on an exercise bike, with some occasional jump roping

[Super Kal]

Are you sure its related to the cardio?
well, I think it is... i got done with the cardio last night, and about 5-7 minutes afterwards, I felt a very slight pain in my chest, so I just assumed it was because I pushed myself too much on the exercise bike...

and I really don't think it was heartburn... but then again, I'm not sure now, because i can't fully remember

[AndThePickles]

I can totally relate Super Kal as I am currently insurance-less, but I'd definitely save your pennies and try to get to a doctor ASAP...if it turns out to be something serious and went unchecked, it could cost you a lot more than what one doctor's appointment would. Not to be morbid, just concerned for you :csad: There are some clinics out there that will give you a discount depending on your income.

[jaguarr]

believe me, jag, I would see a doctor... but as or fight now, I can't afford a doctor's appointment


Chest pains equals something VERY, VERY wrong and if you ignore it, it could turn very bad on you. Quickly. Can you afford to be dead?

jag

[Super Kal]

I'm not going to ignore it, jag... but when I don't have the money, there's nothing I can do to change that at this moment... i will get to it, though

and just to add, since I started this exercise back in early 07, this is the first time this has happened.

[jaguarr]

I'm not going to ignore it, jag... but when I don't have the money, there's nothing I can do to change that at this moment... i will get to it, though

and just to add, since I started this exercise back in early 07, this is the first time this has happened.

As Pickles mentioned, many clinics will work with you based on your income and most place will set up a payment plan for you that you can manage if you ask. Sorry to press this issue with you, but chest pains absolutely must not be ignored. Ever. They require IMMEDIATE medical attention. The risk of death or complications is just too great. Do not screw around with chest pains and wait to see if it gets better.

jag

[Super Kal]

you know, I'm really starting to think it is indeed heartburn now, because it just came back about a minute ago, and it's the same thing as last night.... I'm not saying that just to get you off my back, jag; I really did hear you.

i think I just made a bad judgment on it and just assumed it was chest pain

[mrvlknight21]

Lately I've been trying to fill in my hunger-gaps with lots of tea. It fills me up briefly, and from everything I've read, green tea is super awesome for you.

Yeah, green tea is great ( I like it before a workout), but it doesnt fill me up! :csad:

[mrvlknight21]

you know, I'm really starting to think it is indeed heartburn now, because it just came back about a minute ago, and it's the same thing as last night.... I'm not saying that just to get you off my back, jag; I really did hear you.

i think I just made a bad judgment on it and just assumed it was chest pain

I have never had heartburn...dont even know what it feels like, so I told my wife if I EVER have chest pain, take me to the doc ASAP!

[mrvlknight21]

believe me, jag, I would see a doctor... but as or fight now, I can't afford a doctor's appointment

it's all on an exercise bike, with some occasional jump roping

Is the 15 miles all at one time?
Man, I would get so bored.

[Super Kal]

I have never had heartburn...dont even know what it feels like, so I told my wife if I EVER have chest pain, take me to the doc ASAP!
I have had heartburn before... i had a doc even prescribe me prilosec at one point... so i just made a bad assessment on the pain... i do have a question though... can cranberries give one heartburn?

Is the 15 miles all at one time?
Man, I would get so bored.
I try to go by an hour at a time... if I get 15 miles in, I do... if not, I do another hour... and it's not like I have other things going on. I turn on a movie, or i plug in my Ipod and listen to some trance while I exercise... that trance does wonders because it always sets my pace with the beat, and since it's so fast, i get a really good workout

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, green tea is great ( I like it before a workout), but it doesnt fill me up! :csad:

For me, if I drink it hot, the "full" feeling will last at least 20 minutes. It's the best I can do without snacking too much :csad:

[Super Kal]

i don't drink anything now except green tea and water... i love the stuff

[mrvlknight21]

For me, if I drink it hot, the "full" feeling will last at least 20 minutes. It's the best I can do without snacking too much :csad:

Hmmm. You must drink the REAL green tea then. I have the commercialized Lipton version w/ citrus flavor. I tried the kind you are referring to once and spit it right out! :wow:

[AndThePickles]

Hmmm. You must drink the REAL green tea then. I have the commercialized Lipton version w/ citrus flavor. I tried the kind you are referring to once and spit it right out! :wow:

Haha! It isn't the most flavorful of teas. Not too bad with some honey, though.

[Super Kal]

I usually get the Arizona Diet Green tea with ginseng and honey

[ShadowBoxing]

Super Kal is going to have a massive heart attack :(

[mrvlknight21]

I try to go by an hour at a time... if I get 15 miles in, I do... if not, I do another hour... and it's not like I have other things going on. I turn on a movie, or i plug in my Ipod and listen to some trance while I exercise... that trance does wonders because it always sets my pace with the beat, and since it's so fast, i get a really good workout


See...this is kind of what I was referring to. Maybe I am wrong, but I would like to see you mix it up and do some intervals for a much shorter period and see how you feel and how you like them. I just cant see being able to pay attention to a movie if I am truly going at a fast/intense pace.

If you enjoy it and it is working though, Im not suggesting you change it. Its just that, I have people who THINK they are doing something with a lot of intensity and then I ask them to do it a slightly different way and they realize how wrong they are. They end up gassed very quickly because what I am asking them to do, truly is intense (and as a result, a much more efficient workout regarding fat burning potential).

Again, please dont take what I am saying the wrong way. I am very very glad you are taking the time to do the work, I would just hate to see you wasting a lot of time and/or stalling on results.

[mrvlknight21]

Haha! It isn't the most flavorful of teas. Not too bad with some honey, though.

any particular brand that you recommend?

[Super Kal]

why do you think that SB?
See...this is kind of what I was referring to. Maybe I am wrong, but I would like to see you mix it up and do some intervals for a much shorter period and see how you feel and how you like them. I just cant see being able to pay attention to a movie if I am truly going at a fast/intense pace.

If you enjoy it and it is working though, Im not suggesting you change it. Its just that, I have people who THINK they are doing something with a lot of intensity and then I ask them to do it a slightly different way and they realize how wrong they are. They end up gassed very quickly because what I am asking them to do, truly is intense (and as a result, a much more efficient workout regarding fat burning potential).

Again, please dont take what I am saying the wrong way. I am very very glad you are taking the time to do the work, I would just hate to see you wasting a lot of time and/or stalling on results.
see, I did do shorter intervals when I first started out, and then i reached a point where i was at a stalemate, and it was jag who suggested that i change it up to 5-10 minutes at the lowest intensity, and 20 minutes at the highest intensity... I've been doing that for a while now, and it has worked... in fact, i lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks because of that cycle... and cardio isn't the only thing that i do... I also do weight lifting

[mrvlknight21]

why do you think that SB?

see, I did do shorter intervals when I first started out, and then i reached a point where i was at a stalemate, and it was jag who suggested that i change it up to 5-10 minutes at the lowest intensity, and 20 minutes at the highest intensity... I've been doing that for a while now, and it has worked... in fact, i lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks because of that cycle... and cardio isn't the only thing that i do... I also do weight lifting

Glad to hear it. I think I remember you saying you were limited on equipment...that you had 1 set of dumbbells and thats all..right? Did you add to your equipment roster or what?
What all are you doing regarding the weight lifting?

[jaguarr]

Hmmm. You must drink the REAL green tea then. I have the commercialized Lipton version w/ citrus flavor. I tried the kind you are referring to once and spit it right out! :wow:

I drink green treat hot, with no sugar or honey. I like it two bags at a time, just like I like boobs. :up:

jag

[Super Kal]

Glad to hear it. I think I remember you saying you were limited on equipment...that you had 1 set of dumbbells and thats all..right? Did you add to your equipment roster or what?
What all are you doing regarding the weight lifting?
yes, I am limited on equiment... 2 dumbbells with a body ball and that's it.
as far as weight lifting, it's just the usual. I do what I can.

[mrvlknight21]

yes, I am limited on equiment... 2 dumbbells with a body ball and that's it.
as far as weight lifting, it's just the usual. I do what I can.

Ok, I was just wondering what exercises that you are doing.

[AndThePickles]

any particular brand that you recommend?

The best-tasting I've ever had is Revolution Tropical Green Tea. Doesn't taste like regular green tea because it has a lot more flavor in it.

[Super Kal]

100 crunches, 25-30 pushups, 100 butt lifts, 40 squats, 40 lunges... a few others with the arms, i don't know what they're called... most of them are the basics from jag's page... all of it generally equals out to at least 30 minutes depending on how fast I go

[mrvlknight21]

The best-tasting I've ever had is Revolution Tropical Green Tea. Doesn't taste like regular green tea because it has a lot more flavor in it.

Thanks! (does this one need honey too?)

[AndThePickles]

Thanks! (does this one need honey too?)

It's tolerable plain, but it tastes best with a bit of sugar added.

[mrvlknight21]

It's tolerable plain, but it tastes best with a bit of sugar added.

Hmmm...you are talking me out of it again! :csad:

[AndThePickles]

Hmmm...you are talking me out of it again! :csad:

In the tea's defense, the sugar required to sweeten it is far less than the sugar in bottled citrus green tea :o

[TheFuture]

why do you think that SB?

see, I did do shorter intervals when I first started out, and then i reached a point where i was at a stalemate, and it was jag who suggested that i change it up to 5-10 minutes at the lowest intensity, and 20 minutes at the highest intensity... I've been doing that for a while now, and it has worked... in fact, i lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks because of that cycle... and cardio isn't the only thing that i do... I also do weight lifting

Good stuff man. Would you do that every day? I have an excerise bike and there are times when I'll do the interval cycling, or try, for a week straight. But I always find my legs tiring under the strain after about 4 days. So are you doing the interval training every day?

[Super Kal]

oh, every day... the only day I don't do it is on Sunday... that's my day of rest

I don't get tired of it that much... the music that I listen to keeps me going most of the time

[mrvlknight21]

oh, every day... the only day I don't do it is on Sunday... that's my day of rest

I don't get tired of it that much... the music that I listen to keeps me going most of the time

Man, I would love for you to come here and work out.

[TheFuture]

oh, every day... the only day I don't do it is on Sunday... that's my day of rest

I don't get tired of it that much... the music that I listen to keeps me going most of the time

Fair dues to you, I think I'm going to start the interval training again on Sunday (a broken wrist/dislocated shoulder hasn't allowed me to do much in the past weeks other light work on the bike.).

[Colossal Spoons]

Im the same way. When I eat right...I stay hungry!

Any more details about the specifics of this diet?

I mentioned earlier, I am reading about the Paleo Diet. It seems a bit more simple than some of the ones I have looked into lately.

Nothing too specific. Cuttin my calories down to about 1700 and eating way more fruits and veggies. Also, cardio cardio cardio :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

1700? Are you crazy Spoons? :eek: For a big boy like you that seems extremely low!

[Colossal Spoons]

Trying to drop 20lbs. If it turns out to be too low and I'm in starvation mode 24/7, I'll up it a bit. But I plan on being furious w/ the cardio

[JStorm]

That 'Awsomely Nice' thread has made me want to make-out with Devil, oppose to work-out this evening.


This is not natural.


Sweet lovin' in the gym tonight.

[jaguarr]

Nothing too specific. Cuttin my calories down to about 1700 and eating way more fruits and veggies. Also, cardio cardio cardio :up:

Sounds way, way too low. How many calories are you currently consuming per day?

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Sounds way, way too low. How many calories are you currently consuming per day?

jag

I'm gettin around 2700.

[jaguarr]

I'm gettin around 2700.

Is that maintenance or bulking level caloric intake? I'm guessing maintenance? If so, Cut it to 2200 for a month and up your cardio and veggies a bit. You only need to drop ~500 calories from your maintenance intake to invoke weight loss. If you drop it to 1700 you are going to experience muscle loss like you can't imagine.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Def maintenance. My bulking intake is nuts. I figured 2200 would be optimal but I drop weight slower than molasses. Not trying to lose crazy amounts of muscle though :(

[jaguarr]

Def maintenance. My bulking intake is nuts. I figured 2200 would be optimal but I drop weight slower than molasses. Not trying to lose crazy amounts of muscle though :(

Personally, I recommend dropping around 300 calories at first and then drop another 100 calories after a couple of weeks if you don't see the weight slowly start to shape out the way you want it to, and then another 100 calories after a couple more weeks. You have to look at it as taking just as much time to lose bodyfat as it is to put on muscle while you are bulking. It's better to go slow and cautious with dropping bodyfat, as well. It's way too easy to drop too much and cause yourself problems.

jag