The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[Bubonic]

Good improvement on the dips. Is there a certain number where they recommend you to add some weight?

Actually yes, most of the bodyweight exercises they recommend you add weight after you can do 15 reps properly.

The dips aren't part of the program, I just wanted to check out if something I hadn't done in a few weeks had been improved upon.

Oh, and when I do an overhead press, I start with the basically in the clavicle area... Should I bring it back down to there each rep?

[jaguarr]

Jesus H. Christ... If 100 grams of meat has 30 grams of protein, this has 210 grams... :wow:

Yeah, that might be a bit much for one sitting. :D

jag

[Bubonic]

Yeah, that might be a bit much for one sitting. :D

jag


It sounds manly on paper, but I don't want kidney failure :csad:.

I ate about a quarter of it, I'll eat the other bits at 1 hour intervals or something... Finish my vegies for now.

[mrvlknight21]

Actually yes, most of the bodyweight exercises they recommend you add weight after you can do 15 reps properly.

The dips aren't part of the program, I just wanted to check out if something I hadn't done in a few weeks had been improved upon.

Oh, and when I do an overhead press, I start with the basically in the clavicle area... Should I bring it back down to there each rep?

I love dips and have always been fairly decent at them. I mainly use weighted dips for strength workouts now, but will incorporate bodyweight ones into a circuit from time to time. Im surprised that you arent doing them as a part of that program.

When I do overhead presses (I am referring to barbell ones). I start where you are talking about and come back down there for each rep.

[Bubonic]

I love dips and have always been fairly decent at them. I mainly use weighted dips for strength workouts now, but will incorporate bodyweight ones into a circuit from time to time. Im surprised that you arent doing them as a part of that program.

When I do overhead presses (I am referring to barbell ones). I start where you are talking about and come back down there for each rep.

My shoulders are fine now, but when I was doing it they felt sort of... scrunchy? No sharp pain, but it felt like something was happening that probably shouldn't.

I put my hands shoulder width on the barbell, unrack, rest it on that stop, make sure my ass is clenched and everything is straight and then push up into a full extension.

Dips used to be part of the program but they took them out because too many people where prone to shoulder and clavicle pain, they replaced it with the reversed crunches on the A workout.

[jaguarr]

How the f**k do you replace dips with reverse crunches? That doesn't even make sense? :huh:

jag

[jaguarr]

How the f**k do you replace dips with reverse crunches? That doesn't even make sense? :huh:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah Jag, I asked that a few pages back when he initially listed the program.
It really doesnt make sense. TOTALLY different in every way.
Its not like he replaced dips w/ close grip barbell bench or something.

[Bubonic]

Part of the reason being that many people felt the program was incomplete without some direct ab work, so he replaced the chest/triceps "accessory" exercise with an ab one that is also good for correcting posture and preventing shortened hip flexors or something.

Also the dude felt that the triceps are getting worked out during many of the exercises like the press and the bench press anyways. Obviously they do or my dips wouldn't have gotten dramatically better like they have!

Oh yah, and he also replaced bent over barbell rows with inverted rows since many people have bad posture with the former. I figure I will wait until I can do 3 sets of 15 reps perfectly with inverted rows before switching to barbell.

[Bubonic]

Yeah Jag, I asked that a few pages back when he initially listed the program.
It really doesnt make sense. TOTALLY different in every way.
Its not like he replaced dips w/ close grip barbell bench or something.

Didn't know I missed your question, anyways here is is from the official FAQ

What changed in version 3 of StrongLifts 5x5?
Small tweaks to fix common problems:


Inverted Rows (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-do-inverted-rows/) instead of Barbell Rows (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-the-barbell-row-with-proper-technique/).
Push-ups (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-push-ups-correctly/) instead of Dips (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-dips-with-proper-technique/)
Direct abdominal work: Prone Bridges (http://stronglifts.com/prone-bridges/) & Reverse Crunches (http://stronglifts.com/the-reverse-crunch-get-your-six-pack-abs/)

Many people were doing this already upon my recommendation. Now it's official. 3rd version of StrongLifts 5x5 (http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/) also includes a better spreadsheet (http://stronglifts.com/files/stronglifts-5x5.zip) and a +40 pages FAQ you're reading now.


Why did you remove Barbell Rows?
3 reasons:


Many lack hip mobility (http://stronglifts.com/7-dynamic-stretches-to-improve-your-hip-mobility/) to do Barbell Rows (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-the-barbell-row-with-proper-technique/) correctly: lower back rounds, causing back pain.
Slouching shoulders/bent upper-back is common & prevents correct Barbell Row technique.
Starting weight of 40kg/88lbs is sometimes too heavy to do Barbell Rows correctly. You can't start with less weight as the correct bar position starts at mid-shin level. Only solution is to do them inside a power rack using less weight, but this gets too complicated.

Inverted Rows (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-do-inverted-rows/) work your upper-back & arms like Barbell Rows, don't cause back problems and allow you to row correctly while you improve hip mobility (http://stronglifts.com/7-dynamic-stretches-to-improve-your-hip-mobility/) & posture.


Why did you remove Dips?
Also 3 reasons:


Chest pain & clavicle pain is common on Dips (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-dips-with-proper-technique/).
Dips put your shoulder in an awkward position, many people's shoulders can't take it.
Lack of equipment: bar dips. Bench dips aren't an option since they're worse on your shoulders. Dipping between 2 chairs doesn't work well when adding weight.

Push-ups (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-push-ups-correctly/) increase shoulder health by strengthening your serratus anterior and they don't require any equipment. You can make them harder by using a resistance band (http://stronglifts.com/resistance-bands/), wearing a rucksack filled with weights or wrapping chains around your body.


Why additional abdominal exercises?
Many people who want/need ab work were doing less effective exercises. Prone Bridges (http://stronglifts.com/prone-bridges/) train the stabilizing function of your abs, Reverse Crunches (http://stronglifts.com/the-reverse-crunch-get-your-six-pack-abs/) train flexion. They're harder than they look: I always see people doing them wrong while they think they're ready for more advanced stuff.


Do I need to change what I'm doing?
If you're doing StrongLifts 5x5 (http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/) and don't have the above problems, keep doing what you're doing. The point of the program is to Squat (http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/) 3x/week, do compound exercises and add weight each workout. The changes concern assistance exercises.

[jaguarr]

Translation: I'm a pussy and can't do dips, so I took them out of the program. :D

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Part of the reason being that many people felt the program was incomplete without some direct ab work, so he replaced the chest/triceps "accessory" exercise with an ab one that is also good for correcting posture and preventing shortened hip flexors or something.

Also the dude felt that the triceps are getting worked out during many of the exercises like the press and the bench press anyways. Obviously they do or my dips wouldn't have gotten dramatically better like they have!

Oh yah, and he also replaced bent over barbell rows with inverted rows since many people have bad posture with the former. I figure I will wait until I can do 3 sets of 15 reps perfectly with inverted rows before switching to barbell.

Yeah, I think I told you that I prefer inverted rows to barbell rows anyway.
You can always add a weight vest or weighted backpack to add resistance to them also.

[Colossal Spoons]

I need to by a weight belt so I can make dips more challenging. 3 sets of 10 of bodyweight is getting boring

[mrvlknight21]

Translation: I'm a pussy and can't do dips, so I took them out of the program. :D

jag

Something like that!:grin:

[mrvlknight21]

i need to by a weight belt so i can make dips more challenging. 3 sets of 10 of bodyweight is getting boring

yessirreee!

[Colossal Spoons]

I tried hooking dumbbells between my feet but that was mad uncomfortable. I feel like I wasted a lot of energy keeping my feet clenched :down:

[Bubonic]

Translation: I'm a pussy and can't do dips, so I took them out of the program. :D

jag

You mean the average person is a pussy, whined and he finally took them out of the program to accommodate their huge levels of fail?

I feel it is still a great program for guys like me who are beginning.
Would doing dips regularly ontop of the program improve my triceps? Of course, yet I still tripled my reps with the program how it is... And that was after a hard workout! I might be able to do 25 fresh for all I know.

[mrvlknight21]

I tried hooking dumbbells between my feet but that was mad uncomfortable. I feel like I wasted a lot of energy keeping my feet clenched :down:

Damn right-doing that sucks.
I have the Ironmind belt and it RULES.
I damn sure didnt pay full price for it though!

[Bubonic]

Yeah, I think I told you that I prefer inverted rows to barbell rows anyway.
You can always add a weight vest or weighted backpack to add resistance to them also.

Indeed you did, and I'm going to be sticking to them for a while since I pretty much suck. I just figured actual barbell rows would bulk my back out better.

[jaguarr]

You mean the average person is a pussy, whined and he finally took them out of the program to accommodate their huge levels of fail?

Not doing something because it's hard is a terrible exuse.


I feel it is still a great program for guys like me who are beginning.
Would doing dips regularly ontop of the program improve my triceps? Of course, yet I still tripled my reps with the program how it is... And that was after a hard workout! I might be able to do 25 fresh for all I know.

YES!

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Indeed you did, and I'm going to be sticking to them for a while since I pretty much suck. I just figured actual barbell rows would bulk my back out better.

And that actually may be the case.
Its just a personal preference for me.

[Colossal Spoons]

Damn right-doing that sucks.
I have the Ironmind belt and it RULES.
I damn sure didnt pay full price for it though!

Ha, I'll have to order one online sometime. Never seen one in stores.

[mrvlknight21]

Ha, I'll have to order one online sometime. Never seen one in stores.

Thats because they arent sold in stores, only online.
Dont order from the website if you really want one, I got mine off ebay for about half price.
I really like it better than the others I have used (maybe 2 other kinds) in regards to comfort and how much weight it is designed to handle.

I think Jag has a Grizzly brand one and highly recommends it as well.

[jaguarr]

My Grizzly Belt ate Devil's Iron Mind belt.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

jag recommends the Grizzly brand so much, I thought the belt was called a "grizzly belt"....which is way more bad ass than "weight belt" haha

[jaguarr]

Grizzly....the belt so bad-ass it can hold a f**king BEAR!

jag

[mrvlknight21]

My Grizzly Belt ate Devil's Iron Mind belt.

jag

I dont think so...:cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

I still have yet to buy a neck developer.....

[Colossal Spoons]

Nice (http://cgi.ebay.com/Grizzly-Leather-Dipping-Belt-Weightlifting-Powerlifting_W0QQitemZ190263368492QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZExercise_Fitness_Strength?hash=item190263368492&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18)

[Bubonic]

Not doing something because it's hard is a terrible exuse.

Not why I'm not doing it, didn't even know they'd change the program until last week. Plus the way the FAQ makes it sound is that it is a question of preventing injury or something since apparently many people aren't built for these things.

YES!

jag

I realize this, and I'm not adding things not because I am lazy... But because I am trying to follow a program.
A program I believe is working for me.
Once I build up actual strength then I will worry about all these chizelling exercises, and focusing more on individual muscles.

At the moment I work out three times a week, and it is a full body workout each time I work out. I find this much more efficient then what I was doing before, chest/back Monday, legs/shoulders Wednesday, and arms Friday... Having a whole week of rest between parts wasn't working for me.

[Colossal Spoons]

Your progress on that full body business will level off though(just like any other routine)

[Colossal Spoons]

I still have yet to buy a neck developer.....

http://www.grizzlyfitness.com/gcimages/products/head_harness_detail.jpg

[Bubonic]

Your progress on that full body business will level off though(just like any other routine)

I know, not going to do it for the rest of my life lol.
Once I can squat 300lbs and bench 230-250lbs( hopefully by January) then I will continue with the same sort of exercises but on a 4x8 basis thinking this will help to bulk, do this until spring... Then I will attempt a cutting phase so I look fan****ingtastic for the summer season.... Not for what sort of lifting I will do then.

?

[Colossal Spoons]

You're going to do 4x8 in an attempt to bulk?

[Bubonic]

Bad idea?
Anyways I am currently bulking by eating lots, I'm sure rep range helps bulking, but not as much as nutrition.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, for bulking keep your calories high. But you probably wanna aim for high weight, low rep. I like the 3x6 routine for putting on size and strength.

[Bubonic]

Yeah, for bulking keep your calories high. But you probably wanna aim for high weight, low rep. I like the 3x6 routine for putting on size and strength.

Is this in the keep it under 25 total reps if you want mass thing?

I wish I understood the science to these things.

Hey my Universities gym is going to have some CSCS, NSCA-CPT person come in and give a workshop on how to do Olympic Lifts, which is apparently a combo of deadlift and hang clean if I'm looking at this right.

They will also show people on how to use the Kinesis station a few weeks before that.

[mrvlknight21]

http://www.grizzlyfitness.com/gcimages/products/head_harness_detail.jpg

Yeah, exactly what I want.

[Bubonic]

Those neck trainers actually do look pretty awesome.
Better then holding a ****ing plate up against your face lol.

[mrvlknight21]

Is this in the keep it under 25 total reps if you want mass thing?

I wish I understood the science to these things.

Hey my Universities gym is going to have some CSCS, NSCA-CPT person come in and give a workshop on how to do Olympic Lifts, which is apparently a combo of deadlift and hang clean if I'm looking at this right.
They will also show people on how to use the Kinesis station a few weeks before that.

Oh man, go and do that!!

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, exactly what I want.

That'd be interesting to see

[jaguarr]

I dont think so...:cmad:

Are you sure? You better go check and make sure your belt hasn't been mauled and turned into Grizzly poo.

Nice (http://cgi.ebay.com/Grizzly-Leather-Dipping-Belt-Weightlifting-Powerlifting_W0QQitemZ190263368492QQcmdZViewItemQQ ptZExercise_Fitness_Strength?hash=item190263368492&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318)

That's a steal on that belt, Spoons. Grab it! :up:

Not why I'm not doing it, didn't even know they'd change the program until last week. Plus the way the FAQ makes it sound is that it is a question of preventing injury or something since apparently many people aren't built for these things.

Oh, I get that you're sticking to a program. Dips are a perfectly good exercise, though, and it sounds like people were doing them incorrectly and incurring injuries to me.

I realize this, and I'm not adding things not because I am lazy... But because I am trying to follow a program.
A program I believe is working for me.
Once I build up actual strength then I will worry about all these chizelling exercises, and focusing more on individual muscles.

At the moment I work out three times a week, and it is a full body workout each time I work out. I find this much more efficient then what I was doing before, chest/back Monday, legs/shoulders Wednesday, and arms Friday... Having a whole week of rest between parts wasn't working for me.

A Chest/bi's, legs/shoulders, back/tri's split probably would work well for you. something to keep in mind when you come off this program you're trying.


Your progress on that full body business will level off though(just like any other routine)

Yep. Full body routines have a lower progress ceiling on them than more focused splits.

Yeah, for bulking keep your calories high. But you probably wanna aim for high weight, low rep. I like the 3x6 routine for putting on size and strength.

:up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Is this in the keep it under 25 total reps if you want mass thing?

I wish I understood the science to these things.

Hey my Universities gym is going to have some CSCS, NSCA-CPT person come in and give a workshop on how to do Olympic Lifts, which is apparently a combo of deadlift and hang clean if I'm looking at this right.

They will also show people on how to use the Kinesis station a few weeks before that.

I don't know much about the 25 total rep thing but I understand it like this(and excuse my caveman logic): to make your muscles grow, find something very heavy, and pick it up a few times while maintaining great form.

6 is my number of choice because it allows you to go very heavy but not to the point where you're working on muscle endurance as opposed to size/strength. I have a thing against odd numbers so 5 is out of the question(unless I just can't get that 6th rep, very frustrating :cmad:)

[Manic]

I'm confused about muscle endurance. Why wouldn't you want to develop it, and why would others want to?

[Colossal Spoons]

Bodybuilders vs athletes

It wouldn't do Jay Cutler any good to be able to bench press 150lbs 50 times. And a basketball player wouldn't benefit from having a 600lb shrug max

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok so I'm supposed to be done drinking for the next few months BUT Sam Adam's Octoberfest will be going away soon and I wanna have at least 1 before next year. So for this week's cheat meal, I think I'll make cheeseburgers and have a beer or two.

Now to find a not-so-greasy cheeseburger recipe.

[Bubonic]

Oh man, go and do that!!

I definitely plan on doing it, they seem like an excellent power exercise which would seem to build a useful kind of strength, and I've stopped myself from doing it because I knew online tutorials just aren't enough... I need an expert watching over me and correcting me for something that could potentially cripple me!

I might even attend the persons tutorial on these Kinesis equipment things, sure they market it to women and old people since it looks like pussy equipment it seems to offer everything cable machines though, except with 360 degrees of motion so you can do real ROM movements with a load.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2387/kinesisnv1.jpg

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7712/kinesis1ir3.jpg

Oh, I get that you're sticking to a program. Dips are a perfectly good exercise, though, and it sounds like people were doing them incorrectly and incurring injuries to me.

And it not being some inherent malformation on their part which makes it so they are incapable to do it.
That is a cop out for people, but I guess he knows he cannot be there for all the people doing his program.

A Chest/bi's, legs/shoulders, back/tri's split probably would work well for you. something to keep in mind when you come off this program you're trying.

Yep. Full body routines have a lower progress ceiling on them than more focused splits.

Oh for sure I will get into that kind of training once I feel the full body thing isn't going anywhere anymore.

I don't know much about the 25 total rep thing but I understand it like this(and excuse my caveman logic): to make your muscles grow, find something very heavy, and pick it up a few times while maintaining great form.

Makes sense, but I thought Oly lifters did the extreme version of this... Just 1 to 3 reps, and a lot of them are small for the weight they are lifting!

I just thought that say I got to benching 250lbs on 5x5 I would stop and do 4x8 with it, and since it is still a lot of weight it would effect my muscles differently.

6 is my number of choice because it allows you to go very heavy but not to the point where you're working on muscle endurance as opposed to size/strength. I have a thing against odd numbers so 5 is out of the question(unless I just can't get that 6th rep, very frustrating :cmad:)

Your idea of very heavy is probably more then mine at the moment. :oldrazz:
When I did endurance I did 12 reps, but yah, 3 extra reps could change things a lot.

Ok so I'm supposed to be done drinking for the next few months BUT Sam Adam's Octoberfest will be going away soon and I wanna have at least 1 before next year. So for this week's cheat meal, I think I'll make cheeseburgers and have a beer or two.

Now to find a not-so-greasy cheeseburger recipe.

So long as it was just a few beers lol.

[AndThePickles]

Ok so I'm supposed to be done drinking for the next few months BUT Sam Adam's Octoberfest will be going away soon and I wanna have at least 1 before next year. So for this week's cheat meal, I think I'll make cheeseburgers and have a beer or two.

Now to find a not-so-greasy cheeseburger recipe.

For the cheeseburgers, use bison meat.

[Manic]

Use a BBQ grill. All the grease just drips off, hits the charcoal, causes the flames to jump, and gives the burger a delicious flame kiss.


God, I want to barbecue so bad, and it's freaking November.

[mrvlknight21]

For the cheeseburgers, use bison meat.

Yeah, but that stuff is EXPENSIVE.

[mrvlknight21]

Use a BBQ grill. All the grease just drips off, hits the charcoal, causes the flames to jump, and gives the burger a delicious flame kiss.


God, I want to barbecue so bad, and it's freaking November.

I just grilled a couple of days ago.
Of course it is still in the 70s here during the day.

[Colossal Spoons]

^I'm willing to spend the cash. I'm not gonna take any creatine for a few months so I welcome the red meat :D

[Colossal Spoons]

I could grill on a George Foreman and just leave the top up. Turning the burgers of course.

[mrvlknight21]

^I'm willing to spend the cash. I'm not gonna take any creatine for a few months so I welcome the red meat :D

Do you realize how expensive it is?

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, but that stuff is EXPENSIVE.

It's not very expensive where I live :huh:

I could grill on a George Foreman and just leave the top up. Turning the burgers of course.

Why would you need to leave the top up?

[Colossal Spoons]

I care not! :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Why would you need to leave the top up?

I have no desire to eat a dried out burger lol

[AndThePickles]

I have no desire to eat a dried out burger lol

Haha well yeah, that's true. And bison is low fat enough that it really doesn't need to be drained the way regular beef would. If you can't find any where you live the next time you come here I'll grill you a bison burger :heart:

[Colossal Spoons]

Um, I need this by Saturday lol

[Manic]

I just grilled a couple of days ago.
Of course it is still in the 70s here during the day.
Same here, although it's been raining on and off since late last week. Makes it kinda hard to grill.

[mrvlknight21]

[QUOTE=AndThePickles;15926235]It's not very expensive where I live :huh:



QUOTE]


really?
Its at least twice the price of ground beef here!
And dont get me started on the price of the bison steaks-over $10 for a 5-6oz one!

[AndThePickles]

Um, I need this by Saturday lol

Guess you better come visit :o Or I'll make it for you your next cheat meal lol.

[mrvlknight21]

Same here, although it's been raining on and off since late last week. Makes it kinda hard to grill.

Oh I gotcha.
Thought it might be a lot cooler there...since you are in Northern Cali.

[AndThePickles]

really?
Its at least twice the price of ground beef here!
And dont get me started on the price of the bison steaks-over $10 for a 5-6oz one!

Wow, that sucks :csad:

[terry78]

Guess you better come visit :o Or I'll make it for you your next cheat meal lol.

Get a room. :o

[Colossal Spoons]

Guess you better come visit :o Or I'll make it for you your next cheat meal lol.

Next week, I'm totally getting shepherd's pie :up:

[AndThePickles]

Get a room. :o

Go back to your Playboy thread; you aren't part of the fitness club :o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/Boo_You_Whore.jpg

[AndThePickles]

Next week, I'm totally getting shepherd's pie :up:

I still wanna get that from Kildare's.

[Manic]

Oh I gotcha.
Thought it might be a lot cooler there...since you are in Northern Cali.
While it is getting gradually colder each day, the humidity from the rain clouds and overcast are keeping things from getting too cold.

It's those sunny, crisp days that are unbearably cold during the winter.

[mrvlknight21]

While it is getting gradually colder each day, the humidity from the rain clouds and overcast are keeping things from getting too cold.

It's those sunny, crisp days that are unbearably cold during the winter.

On the topic of weather, it is 81 degrees here today.
Freaking ridiculous.

[mrvlknight21]

We halfassed it last night on the weights. I just wasnt in the mood. Oh well.

[jaguarr]

We halfassed it last night on the weights. I just wasnt in the mood. Oh well.

Everyone gets nights like that. I usually take that as a sign that I'm getting bored with my routine.

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Everyone gets nights like that. I usually take that as a sign that I'm getting bored with my routine.

jag

It had a lot to do with the circumstances surrounding it I think.
We were supposed to do the circuit training at a friends house at 6pm. He called at like 5pm and said he couldnt do it, so I texted everyone and told them just come to my house, so I didnt have to lug all the equipment somewhere else.
I get home at like 530pm and had to deal with the baby and Storm and Ryan show up and I am still dealing with the baby.
So, I asked what they wanted to do, since it was already completely dark out. They said weights, so we could stay inside where it was lit. I said fine and it this point, felt like I had already worked out (mental exhaustion).
We did some dumbbell bench, pullups, overhead presses, curls and dips. (Yes, once again-no legs).

I am going to cut that (group workouts) back to 1x per week Im pretty sure of that much and start back doing my routine in the mornings before work. I really havent been able to focus on my goals bc of all these group sessions. If these guys cant get together on their own or work out on their own, I cant help it. Im not going to hold their hand for every single workout for the rest of their lives.

[Colossal Spoons]

Next Monday can't get here fast enough. I miss the sound of weights clanging!

[AndThePickles]

Next Monday can't get here fast enough. I miss the sound of weights clanging!

W/e, gotta work off all that cheat food you had!

[jaguarr]

It had a lot to do with the circumstances surrounding it I think.
We were supposed to do the circuit training at a friends house at 6pm. He called at like 5pm and said he couldnt do it, so I texted everyone and told them just come to my house, so I didnt have to lug all the equipment somewhere else.
I get home at like 530pm and had to deal with the baby and Storm and Ryan show up and I am still dealing with the baby.
So, I asked what they wanted to do, since it was already completely dark out. They said weights, so we could stay inside where it was lit. I said fine and it this point, felt like I had already worked out (mental exhaustion).
We did some dumbbell bench, pullups, overhead presses, curls and dips. (Yes, once again-no legs).

I am going to cut that (group workouts) back to 1x per week Im pretty sure of that much and start back doing my routine in the mornings before work. I really havent been able to focus on my goals bc of all these group sessions. If these guys cant get together on their own or work out on their own, I cant help it. Im not going to hold their hand for every single workout for the rest of their lives.

Ahhhh, the pitfalls of being people's de-facto personal trainer. Don't lose sight of your own goals and what it takes to achieve them. And DEFINITELY don't miss out on time with your daughter. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

Ahhhh, the pitfalls of being people's de-facto personal trainer. Don't lose sight of your own goals and what it takes to achieve them. And DEFINITELY don't miss out on time with your daughter. :up:

jag

Exactly!
If I didnt have a job or something, it wouldnt be a problem.
Anyways, hopefully cutting back to 1x a week will save me a lot of time.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm glad Devil even attempted to train people. I'd be the absolute worst personal trainer on Earth. A lot of people I've taken to the gym with me(who were in lesser shape) battled me at some point of the workout. "I can't lift that", "But I don't care about my triceps", "Won't this make me look like a man", "Chicks can't even see my back, so why work it out?" etc. UGH If I had to put up w/ that everyday, from fat soccer moms to meatheads looking to "get guns", I'd quit so fast :o

[Bubonic]

I wouldn't mind being a personal trainer at my Uni's gym, so many hot ladies!
Anyways the meatheads usually don't bother signing up for personal training.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hot ladies are usually the biggest culprits. They wanna work 2 or 3 bodyparts and magically get a six pack.

I see a lot of meatheads(not necessarily muscular guys but chubby frat boys) arguing with the personal trainers about how to "get guns"

[Bubonic]

Hot ladies are usually the biggest culprits. They wanna work 2 or 3 bodyparts and magically get a six pack.

It would just take a bit of logical explanations as how spot reductions are a false, and I would get to be paid to flirt!

I see a lot of meatheads(not necessarily muscular guys but chubby frat boys) arguing with the personal trainers about how to "get guns"

Really? lol douchebags. CURLZ 4 DA GURLZ wouldn't ya know.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hahahahaha. Your plan is to use LOGICAL explanations to talk a woman out of something silly. I need to be in your gym when you try this :p

[Manic]

Apparently, I need to put in harder work on my "shoulder" days. I can feel them going out on me during bench presses on "chest" days. And I put those days roughly 3 days apart every week, so it's not fatigue. Anyone have any suggestions for good exercises?

[Bubonic]

Hahahahaha. Your plan is to use LOGICAL explanations to talk a woman out of something silly. I need to be in your gym when you try this :p

My good looks and charm shall sway them into the light.
It wouldn't do me any good to get technical, but just convince them that the means to the end requires more then just lunges and crunches or wtv.

Then introduce them to the worlds most enjoyable and complete workout :cwink:... Haha... No, probably get fired if I got prolific.

Apparently, I need to put in harder work on my "shoulder" days. I can feel them going out on me during bench presses on "chest" days. And I put those days roughly 3 days apart every week, so it's not fatigue. Anyone have any suggestions for good exercises?

I started doing shoulder dislocations to ease shoulder inflamation from my bench, but I probably don't use as heavy a load as you. But yah, shoulder dislocations are awesome and throw in some static shoulder stretches as well.

[Manic]

I'm gonna go look up "shoulder dislocations" on Bodybuilding.com or something, because that just sounds painful.

[Bubonic]

I'm gonna go look up "shoulder dislocations" on Bodybuilding.com or something, because that just sounds painful.

It sounds wrong but its feels good man.
They have good instructions on stronglifts.com.

Heheh, on another note, people are starting to notice I look buffer!
Ran into a girl I had not seen in a month and she said I was looking good, made my day.

Oh and I've gained seven pounds in the last 3 weeks, not bad considering I'm doing a 5x5 strength program and that I was already at 200lbs for my 5'9" frame.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm glad Devil even attempted to train people. I'd be the absolute worst personal trainer on Earth. A lot of people I've taken to the gym with me(who were in lesser shape) battled me at some point of the workout. "I can't lift that", "But I don't care about my triceps", "Won't this make me look like a man", "Chicks can't even see my back, so why work it out?" etc. UGH If I had to put up w/ that everyday, from fat soccer moms to meatheads looking to "get guns", I'd quit so fast :o
Trust me, I dealt with plenty of that crap too!!

[Abstract]

What do you guys do for your cardio? What do you find the most enjoyable or gives you the best results?

I'm looking for some ideas.

[Colossal Spoons]

Most enjoyable: racquetball

Most effective: Elliptical

[Abstract]

Another noob question for you guys.
I want to try circuits to lose a little fat but I'm worried I'll lose muscle if I shift the focus of my workout routine. Am I worried over nothing?

[Colossal Spoons]

What is this circuit routine like?

[mrvlknight21]

What do you guys do for your cardio? What do you find the most enjoyable or gives you the best results?

I'm looking for some ideas.

Most enjoyable with best results-sprinting.
Most challenging (for me)-boxing.
Most enjoyable at regular pace-rowing.
Most fun-FOOTBALL.

[mrvlknight21]

Another noob question for you guys.
I want to try circuits to lose a little fat but I'm worried I'll lose muscle if I shift the focus of my workout routine. Am I worried over nothing?

You should be fine.
Tell us what the circuit is like, but if it is anything like what I often do, you should be fine.

[jaguarr]

Back to the weights today. My week off is officially over. Good thing, too...I was starting to get a little lazy. :D

jag

[Bubonic]

Tell us how it goes and enjoy!

I'm currently enjoying my weekend off, that extra day really helps.

And isn't 7lbs in 3 weeks decent gains considering I'm not doing a hypertrophy program?

[mrvlknight21]

Tell us how it goes and enjoy!

I'm currently enjoying my weekend off, that extra day really helps.

And isn't 7lbs in 3 weeks decent gains considering I'm not doing a hypertrophy program?

^^^^

heck yeah!
I guess you are eating well, thats good!


I have some pics coming of using the new "equipment."

stand by...

[mrvlknight21]

Some new pics
Keg press
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym019.jpg

"Bottoms up press" w/ kettlebell
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym031.jpg

[Manic]

I knew I was in the Fitness thread, and yet I still looked at that keg press pic and thought "CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG!"

[mrvlknight21]

I cleaned up the outside gym a little bit and decided to take a picture or two of it as well.

from left to right starting in the back:
sledgehammer and tire, 2 kegs, squat rack between 2 trees, climbing rope, heavybag and 2 plyo boxes

in the front on the mat:
homemade medicine ball, 50 lb kettlebell, adjustable dumbbell and hanging above that-adjustable gymnastic rings

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym015.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

I knew I was in the Fitness thread, and yet I still looked at that keg press pic and thought "CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG!"

I was finally able to make time to pour the beer out yesterday!

[Pauluz]

I did a 45-minute cardio (interval training) session today, was pretty beat. I've been training by myself in my own little gym since January and I've lost about 46 pounds (21 kilo's). I'm very proud but I still have 35 pounds to go. I will get there though.

[mrvlknight21]

I did a 45-minute cardio (interval training) session today, was pretty beat. I've been training by myself in my own little gym since January and I've lost about 46 pounds (21 kilo's). I'm very proud but I still have 35 pounds to go. I will get there though.

Congrats!

[mrvlknight21]

Im going to repost the pics since we just started a new page.

keg press
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym019.jpg

bottoms up press
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym031.jpg

[jaguarr]

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym019.jpg

"ALL HAIL THE MESSIAH OF HOPS & BARLEY!"

:D


Nice little workout today. I'm going to stick with the deloading for a couple of weeks and just kind of cruise along for a bit. I've been pushing it as hard as I can for quite awhile, now, and my body could use the lighter load for a bit.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

My all cardio week is over as of today. Tomorrow! Weights!!!!!!

[Lunar_Wolf]

Ok so I've been cutting back for the past month now and lost a small bit of weight. The main problem I've been having is the food. I know good foods from the bad, but it's sorting out meals is the problem. So any tips on what I should eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner? I trying to loose weight around my stomach. I'm starting my cardio tomorrow. I've mostly been walking a few miles and jogging but I'm going back to the gym tomorrow.

[Colossal Spoons]

1. No such thing as spot reduction. So you won't lose weight only around your stomach, but everywhere at the same time.

2. Go here (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macronutcal.htm) to find out how many calories you should be eatign and how to split it up. Then you'll be able to find out what to eat during the day and how much of it.

3. You doing just cardio? No weight lifting?

4. Read jag's sig just in case :up:

[Lunar_Wolf]

1. No such thing as spot reduction. So you won't lose weight only around your stomach, but everywhere at the same time.

2. Go here (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/macronutcal.htm) to find out how many calories you should be eatign and how to split it up. Then you'll be able to find out what to eat during the day and how much of it.

3. You doing just cardio? No weight lifting?

4. Read jag's sig just in case :up:
Thanks for the link.
Been reading through Jags site. Some great stuff on it.
I'm going to start weight lighting but just light weights.

[Bubonic]

Some new pics
Keg press
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym019.jpg

"Bottoms up press" w/ kettlebell
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym031.jpg

Holy crap lol, I don't think there is anything manlier then working out with kegs and kettle bells!

[mrvlknight21]

Going to do the "Magic 50" tonight.

using only a dumbbell or kettlebell, a little space and a lot of sweat

5 dumbbell/kettlebell single arm snatches with each arm
5 dumbbell/kettlebell single arm dumbbell swings with each arm
10 burpees

rest up to but no more than 1 minute
do a total of 5 rounds.

finish with 3 sets of farmers walks.

[mrvlknight21]

Thanks for the link.
Been reading through Jags site. Some great stuff on it.
I'm going to start weight lighting but just light weights.

Nice avatar.
I dont know what you mean when you say "light weights" but I suggest you challenge yourself.

Check in anytime for tips/help from Jag and the rest.
Good luck.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Nice avatar.
I dont know what you mean when you say "light weights" but I suggest you challenge yourself.

Check in anytime for tips/help from Jag and the rest.
Good luck.
Thanks for the tip! I shall bring the challenge.

I weighted myself today-The weekly weight in!

Lost a quarter of a stone:woot:

For breakfast today I had Oatmeal with some raisins and banana(If I should add or take anything from that, suggestions would be great).

[mrvlknight21]

Thanks for the tip! I shall bring the challenge.

I weighted myself today-The weekly weight in!

Lost a quarter of a stone:woot:

For breakfast today I had Oatmeal with some raisins and banana(If I should add or take anything from that, suggestions would be great).

Definitely add some protein to the mix. Make sure you are getting protein at every meal. Since it is breakfast, most people would choose eggs.

I personally eat chicken and tuna anytime also (had tuna for breakfast today), but some people cant stomach that first thing in the morning. The rest looks pretty good though.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Definitely add some protein to the mix. Make sure you are getting protein at every meal. Since it is breakfast, most people would choose eggs.

I personally eat chicken and tuna anytime also (had tuna for breakfast today), but some people cant stomach that first thing in the morning. The rest looks pretty good though.
Thanks for the tip, will do. Don't mind Tuna too much so it's all good.

[Pauluz]

Congrats!

Thanks man!:brucebat:

[Colossal Spoons]

I forgot to research one very important part of my cut cycle: my weight lifting. I was piling on the weight recently but I think I might have to aim to retain my current strength level as opposed to getting stronger. I know you lose a bit of muscle mass while trying to cut up. If anybody can shed some light, that'd be greeeaaat.

[Bubonic]

^^^^

heck yeah!
I guess you are eating well, thats good!


I certainly must be doing something right, between Friday and this morning I gained an additional 3lbs :wow:, up to a whooping 210lbs!

Later on I will post a couple of youtube links of me and my buddy squatting, greatly appreciated if you guys can give us some tips.

[Bubonic]

Here I am

AbACRIJTpOI

and here is my buddy Ben

VeFK-DiIyYU

[jaguarr]

I forgot to research one very important part of my cut cycle: my weight lifting. I was piling on the weight recently but I think I might have to aim to retain my current strength level as opposed to getting stronger. I know you lose a bit of muscle mass while trying to cut up. If anybody can shed some light, that'd be greeeaaat.

Try rolling to 3x10's for a little while during a cut. I think you'll like the results of that. Roll back to 3x6's and 3x8's with some heavier weight for a couple of weeks every 3-4 weeks to keep the muscle confusion going, and swap in some different exercises every couple of weeks while you're at it. But, yeah, trying to gain strength and lifting for that while you are on a cut is sort of self-defeating. And do your cardio!

Here I am

AbACRIJTpOI



Good form! :up: Would like to see you go even lower; right now you're squatting a perfect parallel. Lower would be better (and easier on your knees). Good back arch and you're not leaning forward too much, though your heels do come up on occasion so watch that as it will make you lean forward.


and here is my buddy Ben

VeFK-DiIyYU



Ben needs to work on his form. He's leaning forward too much, which puts a lot of unneeded pressure on the lower back and neck and could EFF up his back. Short of it is, he's going to get hurt if he keeps squatting like that. And he's not going low enough at all...not even to parallel.

Keep up the good work! :up:


jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Try rolling to 3x10's for a little while during a cut. I think you'll like the results of that. Roll back to 3x6's and 3x8's with some heavier weight for a couple of weeks every 3-4 weeks to keep the muscle confusion going, and swap in some different exercises every couple of weeks while you're at it. But, yeah, trying to gain strength and lifting for that while you are on a cut is sort of self-defeating. And do your cardio!

Splendid, thanks. Guess the Grizzly belt I ordered will just have to hang on my door menacingly until next summer :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, and let me just tell you guys. For somebody who's used to eating monster sized portions of food...and frequently; this medium-sized meal 6-7x a day business is hard as hell. The junk food and alcohol avoidance is easy, the cardio is becoming less of a chore, but your boy Spoons is in hungry hungry hippo mode 24/7. But there are no little white pellets for me to inhale :(

http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaoaq4.jpg

[jaguarr]

Splendid, thanks. Guess the Grizzly belt I ordered will just have to hang on my door menacingly until next summer :D


No reason you can't start using it with 3x10's. That is....unless you're pussing out.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

For dips probably :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Oh, and let me just tell you guys. For somebody who's used to eating monster sized portions of food...and frequently; this medium-sized meal 6-7x a day business is hard as hell. The junk food and alcohol avoidance is easy, the cardio is becoming less of a chore, but your boy Spoons is in hungry hungry hippo mode 24/7. But there are no little white pellets for me to inhale :(

http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaoaq4.jpg

I hear ya bro.
I am on Paleo Diet right now and it is dang tough not to eat more.

[mrvlknight21]

For dips probably :up:

dont puss out-when I dip you dip we dip.

[jaguarr]

dont puss out-when I dip you dip we dip.

And he dips and she dips? (God I hate that song)

jag

[mrvlknight21]

alright is whey pronounced
WEE
or
WAY?

[Colossal Spoons]

dont puss out-when I dip you dip we dip.

And he dips and she dips? (God I hate that song)

jag

Haha, that song's the worst

And I'm nowhere near pussin out. Motivation is no problem over here :o:cmad:

[jaguarr]

alright is whey pronounced
WEE
or
WAY?

If it gives you panty foam, it's called "Whee!". Otherwise, everyone else calls it "Way".

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

And that's the whey we spell, folks

[mrvlknight21]

OK. That's what I thought.
And then I see this famous bodybuilder on MTV's Made saying it like "Wee."

Yep, here it is.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whey




Wait....Jag, did you actually say "panty foam?"

[Colossal Spoons]

OK. That's what I thought.
And then I see this famous bodybuilder on MTV's Made saying it like "Wee."

Yep, here it is.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whey




Wait....Jag, did you actually say "panty foam?"

Is it the one where that chubby kid had to eat sweet potato baby food? :D

[mrvlknight21]

Is it the one where that chubby kid had to eat sweet potato baby food? :D

No, I think this one was new. This kid was chubby also, and acted a bit ghey as well.
Anyways, this guy actually had him compete in a bodybuilding contest at Muscle Beach after only 8 weeks of training. Now, the guy had lost some weight and Im sure gotten a bit stronger-but obviously he was still fat and you couldnt see any muscle tone at all.
I kind of felt bad for him on stage.

Hopefully, he will take the experience and turn it into a lifetime of better fitness.

[mrvlknight21]

This was the one
http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/294920/can-accomplish-anything.jhtml#id=1597746

[Manic]

Or being forced to compete on stage and embarrass himself will give him a horrible self body image for the rest of his life. Which I suppose could motivate him...

[ShadowBoxing]

I figured they'd do a Made for Bodybuilders eventually.

[mrvlknight21]

I figured they'd do a Made for Bodybuilders eventually.

SB-how have you been?

[ShadowBoxing]

Oh, good, about to go work out. I've been in the Political threads mostly, but still around as you can tell :)

[Manic]

This was the one
http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/294920/can-accomplish-anything.jhtml#id=1597746
There's another clip on there where he's afraid to eat sushi as part of his diet. ****ing really?! I'd have cleared off his whole damn tray in a minute.



...which is why I need to better manage my appetite.

[Bubonic]

Good form! :up: Would like to see you go even lower; right now you're squatting a perfect parallel. Lower would be better (and easier on your knees). Good back arch and you're not leaning forward too much, though your heels do come up on occasion so watch that as it will make you lean forward.

Thanks a bunch for the detailed analysis, in order for me to go lower should I widen my foot stance? I am already a bit wider then shoulder width as is.

I will be keeping it at the same weight up until I can drop my ass more, trying to incorporate more stretches in order to loosen my hip flexors and psoas up.

Also I will try to perhaps curl my toes upwards to keep my heels grounded more.

How was my speed on the way down and up? And do I stand up straight enough at the end of my reps?

Ben needs to work on his form. He's leaning forward too much, which puts a lot of unneeded pressure on the lower back and neck and could EFF up his back. Short of it is, he's going to get hurt if he keeps squatting like that. And he's not going low enough at all...not even to parallel.

Haven't got feedback from Ben, yet I did link him to this forum so he will be made aware of your comments and I let him in on how you'd be a good person to listen to.

I also posted these vids on the stronglifts.com forum, but it is a really slow one.

Keep up the good work! :up:


jag

I will do, eat, sleep, and train hard!

[ShadowBoxing]

So, as this very successful thread draws ever nearer to it's 20,000 post mark, where it will be undoubtedly restarted, I'd like everyone to begin suggesting new, fun names for the second Hype Fitness thread.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for making this little thread that could so successful as well.

[Manic]

The Official Hype Fitness Thread: Deux Work!

[jaguarr]

So, as this very successful thread draws ever nearer to it's 20,000 post mark, where it will be undoubtedly restarted, I'd like everyone to begin suggesting new, fun names for the second Hype Fitness thread.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for making this little thread that could so successful as well.

Actually, I'd like to petition the powers that be to leave this thread alone and let it live on. It's not like this thread grows at an out of control rate like the lounge threads do. There's just too much valuable information in this thread to close it up and leave it to oblivion.

jag

[AndThePickles]

Oh, and let me just tell you guys. For somebody who's used to eating monster sized portions of food...and frequently; this medium-sized meal 6-7x a day business is hard as hell. The junk food and alcohol avoidance is easy, the cardio is becoming less of a chore, but your boy Spoons is in hungry hungry hippo mode 24/7. But there are no little white pellets for me to inhale :(

http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=papaoaq4.jpg

Haha, hungry hungry hippo! Not surprised. Is it making you grumpy? :csad:

[Colossal Spoons]

No, I think this one was new. This kid was chubby also, and acted a bit ghey as well.
Anyways, this guy actually had him compete in a bodybuilding contest at Muscle Beach after only 8 weeks of training. Now, the guy had lost some weight and Im sure gotten a bit stronger-but obviously he was still fat and you couldnt see any muscle tone at all.
I kind of felt bad for him on stage.

Hopefully, he will take the experience and turn it into a lifetime of better fitness.

Yeah, that's the one. His made coach made him eat sweet potato baby food as part of his diet :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Actually, I'd like to petition the powers that be to leave this thread alone and let it live on. It's not like this thread grows at an out of control rate like the lounge threads do. There's just too much valuable information in this thread to close it up and leave it to oblivion.

jag

Agreed :up:

Haha, hungry hungry hippo! Not surprised. Is it making you grumpy? :csad:

Not yet :(

[Manic]

I hearby withdraw my thread name suggestion.






Unless the mods close it, anyway. Then I want to see my clever pun.

[ShadowBoxing]

Actually, I'd like to petition the powers that be to leave this thread alone and let it live on. It's not like this thread grows at an out of control rate like the lounge threads do. There's just too much valuable information in this thread to close it up and leave it to oblivion.

jag
If we can do that, fine. I do like Manic's suggestion though :up:

[Lunar_Wolf]

Had some steak and kidney sliced with carrots and broccoli.

Drank a good bit of water also. Time to pee it out:hehe:

[mrvlknight21]

So, as this very successful thread draws ever nearer to it's 20,000 post mark, where it will be undoubtedly restarted, I'd like everyone to begin suggesting new, fun names for the second Hype Fitness thread.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for making this little thread that could so successful as well.

Dang, I didnt know that was a rule.

Yeah, we would be wiping out a lot of good solid info if we did that. But I guess starting over wouldnt kill us either.

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, that's the one. His made coach made him eat sweet potato baby food as part of his diet :D

I must have missed that part. Funny stuff.

[Colossal Spoons]

I give that kid props for putting on the speedo. I'm in much better shape than him and I'd be super uncomfortable in that thing.

[ShadowBoxing]

So this is quasi-fitness related. I showed Spoons already, but I found a 1 minute clip of a porno shot inside a GNC, I guess with the GNC employee (but it's probably an actor).

[ShadowBoxing]

That Cody is such a little bit*h, at least in those two clips. I'd lose patience with him almost immediately.

[jaguarr]

So this is quasi-fitness related. I showed Spoons already, but I found a 1 minute clip of a porno shot inside a GNC, I guess with the GNC employee (but it's probably an actor).

Oh, I get it. Because what porn actors do can be so athletic, it's fitness related, right? (Because I really don't consider GNC fitness related. :oldrazz: ).

jag

[jaguarr]

Agreed :up:



I hearby withdraw my thread name suggestion.
Unless the mods close it, anyway. Then I want to see my clever pun.

Dang, I didnt know that was a rule.

Yeah, we would be wiping out a lot of good solid info if we did that. But I guess starting over wouldnt kill us either.

I've submitted a formal request of the Admins to let our baby live. :up:

jag

[mrvlknight21]

I've submitted a formal request of the Admins to let our baby live. :up:

jag

Formal as opposed to informal?
Na...seriously thanks for sending our thoughts up the line.

[mrvlknight21]

That Cody is such a little bit*h, at least in those two clips. I'd lose patience with him almost immediately.

All of the people on Made look like punk ass beyotches at some point. They think they can just wake up and become whatever and if there is work involved it seems like they always say the same thing "this is so hard."

If it wasnt hard, everyone would do it kid.

[ShadowBoxing]

Oh, I get it. Because what porn actors do can be so athletic, it's fitness related, right? (Because I really don't consider GNC fitness related. :oldrazz: ).

jag
She wasn't all that fit, but that made sense, considering she worked at a GNC. Nice ta-tas though.

[mrvlknight21]

She wasn't all that fit, but that made sense, considering she worked at a GNC. Nice ta-tas though.

Link?

[ShadowBoxing]

All of the people on Made look like punk ass beyotches at some point. They think they can just wake up and become whatever and if there is work involved it seems like they always say the same thing "this is so hard."

If it wasnt hard, everyone would do it kid.
Yeah, but this was particularly bad. Most of the time it's getting winded from a workout, or not getting dance steps right, or some sh**, this kid freaks out at sushi and then says that line "ug, it's started my gag reflex". Yeah, like he has a gag reflex:whatever:

[ShadowBoxing]

Link?
It's a bannable offense to post links to porn. It comes from a website called Money Talks, which is a lot like jackass mixed with porn in between stunts. The clip I saw though was hosted in some ad-banner.

[mrvlknight21]

It's a bannable offense to post links to porn. It comes from a website called Money Talks, which is a lot like jackass mixed with porn in between stunts. The clip I saw though was hosted in some ad-banner.

Yeah, I figured you would just Pm it to me.

[Bubonic]

Keep the thread alive!!!

GNC porn? Hmm, going to lurk now.
I know they've ****ed me already so I'd like to see them do it to themselves.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I figured you would just Pm it to me.
I think there are hype rules against that too, aren't there:huh:

[ShadowBoxing]

Keep the thread alive!!!

GNC porn? Hmm, going to lurk now.
I know they've ****ed me already so I'd like to see them do it to themselves.
I used my super-double-secret-e-mail-account to e-mail it to the local GNC:hehe:

[Colossal Spoons]

That Cody is such a little bit*h, at least in those two clips. I'd lose patience with him almost immediately.

Like I said, I tip my hat to personal trainers. I could never deal with whiners and pansies. If you're weak, that's ok, we're here to make you stronger. But don't be all "I can't do this" "I can't do that".

[Bubonic]

I think there are hype rules against that too, aren't there:huh:

I think the rule would stipulate not to send such things to people who aren't expecting it and might report you for it.

Hypothetically if you were to send me the pm, I wouldn't be report you... Just saying...

[Colossal Spoons]

All of the people on Made look like punk ass beyotches at some point. They think they can just wake up and become whatever and if there is work involved it seems like they always say the same thing "this is so hard."

If it wasnt hard, everyone would do it kid.

I wanna be on Made for cage-fighting or snowboarding(already been done, but w/e) and I can guarantee there will be no whining, quitting, or crying.

[ShadowBoxing]

Like I said, I tip my hat to personal trainers. I could never deal with whiners and pansies. If you're weak, that's ok, we're here to make you stronger. But don't be all "I can't do this" "I can't do that".
My kuddos to good personal trainers. There is no excuse for sucking or using that profession as a social outing for yourself. That's why I'm staying clear for the moment. The economy sucks, and I really don't like the lack of standards I found in the industry after I researched it. It's funny how much money uncertified trainers make.

[mrvlknight21]

I wanna be on Made for cage-fighting or snowboarding(already been done, but w/e) and I can guarantee there will be no whining, quitting, or crying.


Kind of a strange combination.
I agree, if I went on there I wouldnt do all that. Im sure it would whip my a$$ but I wouldnt complain about it.
Of course you and I are of a different physical and mental mindset than those who actually get to be on Made.

[Colossal Spoons]

New Cryosport product, Monster Milk:

http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monstermilk2yt7.jpg


The "Muscle Milk people finally upped their grams per serving up to 25. 18 was absolutely pathetic :down:

[Colossal Spoons]

I think there are hype rules against that too, aren't there:huh:

Hahahahaha, you're like Captain America. Such a boyscout :D

My kuddos to good personal trainers. There is no excuse for sucking or using that profession as a social outing for yourself. That's why I'm staying clear for the moment. The economy sucks, and I really don't like the lack of standards I found in the industry after I researched it. It's funny how much money uncertified trainers make.

Yeah dude, there are 2 guys at 1 of my gyms who train people but I doubt either of them is certified. They're makin some decent cash doin crap I do with my friends all the time lol. They're both excellent at what they do though :up:

Kind of a strange combination.
I agree, if I went on there I wouldnt do all that. Im sure it would whip my a$$ but I wouldnt complain about it.
Of course you and I are of a different physical and mental mindset than those who actually get to be on Made.

Some of those kids are beyond words. Really makes you wonder how bad they wanted it and if they regret submitting a request to MTV lol

[jaguarr]

New Cryosport product:

http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monstermilk2yt7.jpg


The "Muscle Milk people finally upped their grams per serving up to 25. 18 was absolutely pathetic :down:


My last BB.com shipment had a sample packet of something called Monster Milk in it, which is basically Muscle Milk with some slower digesting casein, some lipids, a little fiber and some creatine in it. I haven't tried it so can't speak to it's flavor.

FYI, Hunter Rider said he has no problem with leaving this thread intact as long as Drakon doesn't see any issues with it from a technical perspective, so we're waiting to hear his thoughts on the topic. I'll keep ya'll posted.

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Thanks for the thread-proposal, jag :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

Kind of a strange combination.
I agree, if I went on there I wouldnt do all that. Im sure it would whip my a$$ but I wouldnt complain about it.
Of course you and I are of a different physical and mental mindset than those who actually get to be on Made.
I think I'd go for dancer, because I'm about as graceful as a Panzer Tank and that would be different enough to make it on that show. I think that show thrives on people who look so far removed from the part they want to play that it makes it entertaining.

[Pauluz]

Goddamn, I just got done with my 45-minute cardio session. I'm f'in BEAT!

[Bubonic]

Now I've show to a friend of mine who happens to be a personal trainer, and the first thing he criticizes me for is my foot positioning.

He says the correct, atheletic way to do a squat is with toes pointing forward and that mine are much too pointed out, says I should do them like this guy

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This was what he said keep your feet straight normally when it feels more comfortable to turn them to the side means your muscle in your foot is unbalanced have ben spot you up and down your shoulder blades need to be allined with your lower back u seem to be hunched forward a little.

you can handle more weight with your toes out but its bad because you are working your legs and putting mass amounts of strain on a flexation movement that isnt supposed to be natural

if u dont walk with toes points why stand with them pointed and why lift with them pointed

can u moved your ankle to a 360 degree movement?

if not its not natural your ankle is supinator and flexation only! no toes outward


Then I go lurk on the net and there didn't seem to be a straight answer on the subject.

[jaguarr]

Now I've show to a friend of mine who happens to be a personal trainer, and the first thing he criticizes me for is my foot positioning.

He says the correct, atheletic way to do a squat is with toes pointing forward and that mine are much too pointed out, says I should do them like this guy

8IoMg0BhxMc

This was what he said

Then I go lurk on the net and there didn't seem to be a straight answer on the subject.


First of all, you're going to get a ton of different opinions on this topic. Second, the one shot I saw of that guy's feet in the video you posted...he has his right foot pointed more outwards than the left. He also has his legs too close together, in my personal opinion. He also has chicken legs. :D Of course, I'm more of a fan of an Olympic squatting style which means the legs are a little wider apart than shoulder-width (I prefer, personally, to have them just barely wider than shoulder-width). You'll also see a lot of pro and semi-pro bodybuilders using this slightly wider stance. From a pure mechanics standpoint for ease of knee-sheer stress, you want to keep your toes pointed forward but I, and a lot of other people, tend to use a stance where the toes are pointed slightly outwards; not to a huge degree, but just slightly. Personally, when I just stand and face forward, my toes actually do point out slightly, so I try to squat with what is as natural a stance for me as I can.

jag

[Bubonic]

That is the thing with me, when I am standing without thinking about it my toes point out. I remember some gym guy telling me this was a stance flaw, but what can you do?

I tried doing a bodyweight squat with my toes pointing forward and it was just not happening... From the video I provided do you think my legs are a bit too far apart? Basically I start with my feet under my shoulders and slide each foot 2-3 inches further out. If I went too far out I would lose stability anyways.

I'm just obsessed with the idea of doing the best possible squat I can, that is why I keep bugging you guys with all these little details. Tomorrow I will get my hips lower then my knees, but my feet will be pointed out about 30 degrees as well.

[jaguarr]

That is the thing with me, when I am standing without thinking about it my toes point out. I remember some gym guy telling me this was a stance flaw, but what can you do?

I tried doing a bodyweight squat with my toes pointing forward and it was just not happening... From the video I provided do you think my legs are a bit too far apart? Basically I start with my feet under my shoulders and slide each foot 2-3 inches further out. If I went too far out I would lose stability anyways.

I'm just obsessed with the idea of doing the best possible squat I can, that is why I keep bugging you guys with all these little details. Tomorrow I will get my hips lower then my knees, but my feet will be pointed out about 30 degrees as well.

Try bringing your legs only about 1 to 1 1/2 inches past your shoulders and see if that helps. It should be comfortable for you. The real trick is to make sure you're putting all the stress in your quads, hammies and glutes and lifting with that entire group of muscles, rather than relying on any of the other muscle groups. This gets into the mind-muscle connection area.

jag

[Bubonic]

Try bringing your legs only about 1 to 1 1/2 inches past your shoulders and see if that helps. It should be comfortable for you. The real trick is to make sure you're putting all the stress in your quads, hammies and glutes and lifting with that entire group of muscles, rather than relying on any of the other muscle groups. This gets into the mind-muscle connection area.

jag

I might be having trouble with the mind-muscle connection thing, most of the soreness I end up having is at the level of my hip-flexors and glutes. My quads and hammies just don't seem to be as engaged or bothered by the weight yet.

[jaguarr]

I might be having trouble with the mind-muscle connection thing, most of the soreness I end up having is at the level of my hip-flexors and glutes. My quads and hammies just don't seem to be as engaged or bothered by the weight yet.

Try bringing your toes in a little bit more and bring your feet in about an inch on each side and really focus on using the muscle group I mentioned before on the lift. Do it with just the bar for awhile to get some practice on form. Doing it in front of a mirror will help.

jag

[Bubonic]

Try bringing your toes in a little bit more and bring your feet in about an inch on each side and really focus on using the muscle group I mentioned before on the lift. Do it with just the bar for awhile to get some practice on form. Doing it in front of a mirror will help.

jag

Thanks, I guess this will help towards activating the muscle, and once that mind-muscle connection is awakened I can go ahead and attempt it with some weight. Sort of like a warm-up?

[Colossal Spoons]

I think I'd go for dancer, because I'm about as graceful as a Panzer Tank and that would be different enough to make it on that show. I think that show thrives on people who look so far removed from the part they want to play that it makes it entertaining.

Haha, if it's based on looks, I'll try to get made into a Nascar driver lol

[jaguarr]

Thanks, I guess this will help towards activating the muscle, and once that mind-muscle connection is awakened I can go ahead and attempt it with some weight. Sort of like a warm-up?

Warm-ups are always good, and you should be doing at least one warmup set before major core/compound lifts for sure. I'm talking about practicing your form so you know what it looks and feels like at light or no weight before you start packing on some plates.


On another note, I'd like to thank Drakon and Hunter Rider for agreeing to let this thread live on past the 20k mark. They acknowledged that this is one of those rare threads that is informational, useful and serves a real purpose here on the Hype. I'm glad we won't be losing any of the information captured in this thread. Thanks, guys! :up:

jag

[DeGenerate10]

How about this for a new thread title:

We're going to pump YOU up

[Colossal Spoons]

But we're not going to need it lol :huh:

[Lunar_Wolf]

Ok so this is what I ate today

Breakfast

Oatmeal again with raisin and a banana.(got to do some shopping for tuna tomorrow)

Lunch

Egg white salad

Dinner

Salmon, beans with 3 small potatoes

Then I did some weight training for my arms

[Nightmare]

For me

piece of chicken for breakfast

2 pieces of chicken for dinner.

[The Apatow Crew]

I need to get some weights.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I need to get some weights.
I found mine last night. They were dusty and ready for some lean muscle.

[The Apatow Crew]

I found mine last night. They were dusty and ready for some lean muscle.lean muscle? lol. sounds like meat shopping.:o

[Bubonic]

Breakfast
3 hard boiled eggs, 2 whole grain toast with peanut butter, cup of milk
Brunch
Beans and molasses
Snack
Leftover baked potato and cup of clam chowder
Lunch
Mama burger and Grampa burger :o
Snack
Apple and banana
Supper
Chicken breast, steamed greens, cup of milk

and a yet to come scoop of casein before bed :oldrazz:

[DV8]

sup fatties??

[Bubonic]

Warm-ups are always good, and you should be doing at least one warmup set before major core/compound lifts for sure. I'm talking about practicing your form so you know what it looks and feels like at light or no weight before you start packing on some plates.

jag

I'm going to have to get into the habit of doing more then one warm-up set with the bar before getting into my 5x5 lifts.

Is it weird that with no weight I have a much harder time stabilizing myself and getting the motion right then when I have a couple of plates on there?

[Manic]

sup fatties??
Hey HEY hey!
wait, that's Dwayne from What's Happening...


hey Hey HEY!

[Lunar_Wolf]

sup fatties??
My flab brings all the girls to the yard and they're like, let's poke him really hard, damn right, really hard, I bet you girls wish you had cups like these.

[Manic]

My flab brings all the girls to the yard and they're like, let's poke him really hard, damn right, really hard, I bet you girls wish you had cups like these.
I'm tempted to post a link to the opening "Milkshake" sequence from Date Movie, but it ends with Alyson Hannigan saying "oh s***," and I don't want to get another infraction for posting a link with profanity in it.

[jaguarr]

I'm going to have to get into the habit of doing more then one warm-up set with the bar before getting into my 5x5 lifts.

Is it weird that with no weight I have a much harder time stabilizing myself and getting the motion right then when I have a couple of plates on there?

Yeah, dude. That's totally weird. You might be gay. :hehe: Seriously, it's not that strange. Most people do better with a little bit of resistance, but if you can't do the exercise with perfect form without any weight, you're more unlikely to do it with perfect form when you HAVE some weight involved.

jag

[ShadowBoxing]

Haha, if it's based on looks, I'll try to get made into a Nascar driver lol
Or Politician....oh wait.

[Manic]

Before I completely eff up my workout routine, I need to get something clear...

This whole time, I've been performing all of my workouts on an endurance level. I've been doing 10 reps per set, and doing roughly 3 sets per exercise. Now that I'm aware that fewer reps are essential for building strength, I've been trying to figure out how exactly to do this. I've read that some people (after increasing the weight lifted) switch to 5 reps per set, and 5 sets. Is this recommended for all exercises and muscle groups?

Also, I'm curious about what to do about that and my legs. I want to be able to run faster and for longer stints than 3 minutes at a time (I'm fat, sue me). For that, I'd need to build endurance with my leg workouts, right? Would it be possible to do strength-building exercises during my leg workouts (believe me, I need it) and run on other days to work on my running? While I'm on the subject, is it safe for me to run the day after a leg workout without running the risk of overtraining my legs?




That oughta keep a few of you busy for a couple of posts.

[Colossal Spoons]

Or Politician....oh wait.

Haha

[Colossal Spoons]

Before I completely eff up my workout routine, I need to get something clear...

This whole time, I've been performing all of my workouts on an endurance level. I've been doing 10 reps per set, and doing roughly 3 sets per exercise. Now that I'm aware that fewer reps are essential for building strength, I've been trying to figure out how exactly to do this. I've read that some people (after increasing the weight lifted) switch to 5 reps per set, and 5 sets. Is this recommended for all exercises and muscle groups?

To my understanding, the 5X5 program is a temporary thing(mine was about 2 months long). Useful for busting through plateaus. It's also a very compound-centric routine so you won't get to target many small muscles directly. 3x6 is my favorite set-up. It's few enough reps so you can get some good size gains and few enough sets that you can do compound and isolation lifts and not be in the gym for 5 hours a day.

[Bubonic]

Yeah, dude. That's totally weird. You might be gay. :hehe: Seriously, it's not that strange. Most people do better with a little bit of resistance, but if you can't do the exercise with perfect form without any weight, you're more unlikely to do it with perfect form when you HAVE some weight involved.

jag

WOO HOO!!!
Finally broke parallel, and holy **** that extra inch or so makes it much, much harder :dry:

Won't have the video posted till probably tomorrow, but I am pretty sure I might of ended up leaning forward more then I should have, but that I can work on, I am just happy I broke the physical and mental barrier of the whole thing.

Ripped my ****ing pants though, now I have a damned vagina looking rip in my crotch! :cmad:

[jaguarr]

To my understanding, the 5X5 program is a temporary thing(mine was about 2 months long). Useful for busting through plateaus. It's also a very compound-centric routine so you won't get to target many small muscles directly. 3x6 is my favorite set-up. It's few enough reps so you can get some good size gains and few enough sets that you can do compound and isolation lifts and not be in the gym for 5 hours a day.

Yep. A 3x6 or 3x8 approach would be the best place for you to start, Manic. :up:

WOO HOO!!!
Finally broke parallel, and holy **** that extra inch or so makes it much, much harder :dry:

Won't have the video posted till probably tomorrow, but I am pretty sure I might of ended up leaning forward more then I should have, but that I can work on, I am just happy I broke the physical and mental barrier of the whole thing.

Ripped my ****ing pants though, now I have a damned vagina looking rip in my crotch! :cmad:

Excellent work, Vagina Crotch! :up: Yes, when you get down to the bottom of the hole on a squat and go below parallel, it's a huge, huge difference in the amount of effort needed. I've taken guys who've boasted about their 450 pound parallel squats and had them nearly in tears with 215 pounds going full ass to grass. It's that big of a difference. THAT is a full squat. A parallel is a half-squat as far as I'm concerned; half the ROM, half the benefit.

jag

[amazingfantasy15]

Before I completely eff up my workout routine, I need to get something clear...

This whole time, I've been performing all of my workouts on an endurance level. I've been doing 10 reps per set, and doing roughly 3 sets per exercise. Now that I'm aware that fewer reps are essential for building strength, I've been trying to figure out how exactly to do this. I've read that some people (after increasing the weight lifted) switch to 5 reps per set, and 5 sets. Is this recommended for all exercises and muscle groups?

Also, I'm curious about what to do about that and my legs. I want to be able to run faster and for longer stints than 3 minutes at a time (I'm fat, sue me). For that, I'd need to build endurance with my leg workouts, right? Would it be possible to do strength-building exercises during my leg workouts (believe me, I need it) and run on other days to work on my running? While I'm on the subject, is it safe for me to run the day after a leg workout without running the risk of overtraining my legs?

That oughta keep a few of you busy for a couple of posts.

In terms of your running, I don't think leg workouts will help nearly as much as just running. How fast are you going for these 3 minute stints? Maybe decrease your pace and just push past your last length. Run 3 minutes one day, 3:30-4 minutes the next, just keep increasing in small increments. Speed is another thing that just comes in time and is slowbuilding, just keep racing against yourself.

[Colossal Spoons]

All this squat talk has made me feel bad/guilty. I've completely neglected squats in favor of leg press for the past few months(shame on me). I was too excited to see my numbers shoot up so rapidly. Will def be squatting tonight. Full ATG too :up:

[Bubonic]

Excellent work, Vagina Crotch! :up: Yes, when you get down to the bottom of the hole on a squat and go below parallel, it's a huge, huge difference in the amount of effort needed. I've taken guys who've boasted about their 450 pound parallel squats and had them nearly in tears with 215 pounds going full ass to grass. It's that big of a difference. THAT is a full squat. A parallel is a half-squat as far as I'm concerned; half the ROM, half the benefit.

jag

Save the praise for after you've seen it lol, not sure if I'm dropping low enough to your standards just yet :oldrazz:

As soon as I went below parallel I felt my hammies truly activate, I guess they need the extra dept to really get called upon :wow:

I did a warm up set at 95lbs and then 135lbs, felt confident to at least do 225lbs, did that pretty well. Got a little cocky and did my last 4 sets at 250lbs, wasn't as pretty, bit slow on the way back up and I am sure you'll spot a few things I can work on, hopefully it wasn't too bad and I think once I've rested and repaired I'll be able to keep it at 250lbs and hopefully finally move on to 255lbs by Monday.

Friday I'll try to drop my ass even more.

[DV8]

you guys all went soft on me . . . I'm so digusted at all these snicker wrappers on the floor . . . oh well, better than GANGSTA wrappers . . . da-dumm-csshhh!

[Manic]

...



















What you're hearing is the sound of total silence, as you have managed to tell a joke so horrible, it's not worth the energy it takes to shout "boo."

[DV8]

It takes more balls to tell a terrible joke like that than it is a hilarious one though *justified*

[mrvlknight21]

In terms of your running, I don't think leg workouts will help nearly as much as just running. How fast are you going for these 3 minute stints? Maybe decrease your pace and just push past your last length. Run 3 minutes one day, 3:30-4 minutes the next, just keep increasing in small increments. Speed is another thing that just comes in time and is slowbuilding, just keep racing against yourself.

I agree with this ^^. Leg workouts wont help you gain running endurance, running will.
And once you are able to go a little bit longer, throw in intervals to improve your speed.

I would also say that muscular endurance is really more in the 15+ rep range, not 10.

[Colossal Spoons]

I've never done 15 reps of anything besides pushups and situps maybe lol

[jaguarr]

I've never done 15 reps of anything besides pushups and situps maybe lol

We need to get you doin' some Widowmaker Squats, son!

Speaking of which, I'm gonna be crippled tomorrow. The Widowmakers I did last night after my work sets did their job and are letting me know that I'm in for a world of pain tomorrow.

jag

[Bubonic]

So here are the videos of our attempted improvement.

Got my warm-up set at 135lbs which doesn't look bad to me.

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and this was my less then fabulous workset, this was my second to last set at 250lbs and you can tell I had run out of steam, unfortunately a slightly better video of my 2nd set wouldn't work.

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and here is Ben who I find vastly improved.

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So what do you think, despite some technical flaws is it still better that we are at least getting our asses lower?

[Super Kal]

today was my 100lb. marker

I'm so happy :)

[Colossal Spoons]

We need to get you doin' some Widowmaker Squats, son!

Speaking of which, I'm gonna be crippled tomorrow. The Widowmakers I did last night after my work sets did their job and are letting me know that I'm in for a world of pain tomorrow.

jag

I completely forgot about those. And one day, I challenged my brother to a DB shrug-off(do as many as you can) for our last set, and we got up into the 30s :D

[Bubonic]

today was my 100lb. marker

I'm so happy :)

Elaborate.

[Colossal Spoons]

He's lost 100lbs :up:

[Bubonic]

Oh ****!
Congratulations dude, that is really amazing!

[Bubonic]

Any of you care to explain to me what is wrong with Planet Fitness?
I just read up on their no grunting, no deadlifting, no olympic lifts rules... And their free candy and pizza.

Is this the twilight zone of gyms?

[mrvlknight21]

Any of you care to explain to me what is wrong with Planet Fitness?
I just read up on their no grunting, no deadlifting, no olympic lifts rules... And their free candy and pizza.

Is this the twilight zone of gyms?

Its something else, thats for sure.

There are none around me, but I have read blogs and news articles about their stupid rules and whatnot.

Its quite crazy.


Other rules along with what you named:

no dumbbells over 80 lbs

no do-rags, bandanas, skull caps

no gallon water jugs







All part of their "judgement free zone"












no gallon water jugs...wtf? Sounds like they are judging the typical bodybuilder or strongman types to me.


That means half of my dumbbell rack would not be allowed there:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym013.jpg

[jaguarr]

today was my 100lb. marker

I'm so happy :)

Dude, that is awesome! :up:

I completely forgot about those. And one day, I challenged my brother to a DB shrug-off(do as many as you can) for our last set, and we got up into the 30s :D

Squat-Off!!!!!

Any of you care to explain to me what is wrong with Planet Fitness?
I just read up on their no grunting, no deadlifting, no olympic lifts rules... And their free candy and pizza.

Is this the twilight zone of gyms?

It's a gym run for and by pussies. Critique of your new squat vids later today, when I have more time and am not in a damn conference call.


Gonna be sore later today. Cranked out a hellacious back/bi workout last night with some high-rep deadlifts. Been a very long time since I've done that and my back is already starting to complain (in the right ways). :up:

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

This planet fitness place sounds like a great place to do 20 mins of cardio and prance around like a showdog

[jaguarr]

This planet fitness place sounds like a great place to do 20 mins of cardio and prance around like a showdog

I'd pay the daily fee just to go in there and load up a bar with 450 and do deadlifts where I was dropping the bar after each rep. :D

jag

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, and who gives out pizza and candy at a gym anyway? This place is a bizarro-gym

[Colossal Spoons]

In other news, I've not taken any creatine in a little over 2 weeks now and have noticed no decrease in strength at all. We'll see how much water I lose though. I have been eating red meat more often though. :shrug:

[mrvlknight21]

It shouldnt be hard to maintain the gains that came during a creatine cycle.

[mrvlknight21]

I am going to pig out tonight. I have been very strict all week (maybe too strict, I dont think I have taken in enough calories).
I have done very well with the sweets. I have had NONE since Sunday. For me, that is a miracle.

Anyways, my friend's birthday dinner is at a Japanese steak house tonight. Filet mignon and shrimp for me!

[Hush]

Got me a scorcher of a Back/Bi's work out to do today! Got to look big for my little lady over the weekend! LOL Oh and mrvlknight21 Pull ups do cure cancer! THAT is a scientific fact!

[mrvlknight21]

Got me a scorcher of a Back/Bi's work out to do today! Got to look big for my little lady over the weekend! LOL Oh and mrvlknight21 Pull ups do cure cancer! THAT is a scientific fact!

^^ I know. Problem is, nobody does them!

On a side note, Burpees cure AIDS.

[Colossal Spoons]

Got me a scorcher of a Back/Bi's work out to do today! Got to look big for my little lady over the weekend! LOL Oh and mrvlknight21 Pull ups do cure cancer! THAT is a scientific fact!

Your g/f used to post here didn't she?

[Hush]

Yeah then her classes got super demanding and the dark knight viral ended. lol I tried talking her into comming back, but she was meh about it. Its all good. She has started kicking her work outs into high gear since she had to take a month off because her sorority demanded ALL of her spare time.

[jaguarr]

In other news, I've not taken any creatine in a little over 2 weeks now and have noticed no decrease in strength at all. We'll see how much water I lose though. I have been eating red meat more often though. :shrug:

How have your energy levels been during your workouts since you went off the creatine?

jag

[DeGenerate10]

How many calories a day should you eat if you're trying to put on weight?

[Bubonic]

I'd pay the daily fee just to go in there and load up a bar with 450 and do deadlifts where I was dropping the bar after each rep. :D

jag

One of my new ambitions is to set off their "lunk alarm", that's right folks... They set off a ****ing alarm if they catch you grunting, groaning, doing deadlifts or anything else manly lol

Oh, and thanks for offering to view the vids even though you're busy... Like I said in the post it isn't that pretty, so today I did deload form 250lbs to 230lbs and it was perfect, ATG, face looking like a tomatoes, good upward drive and none of the same leaning forward crap and instability like in my last youtube vid.

btw, does ATG literally imply that my ass must touch the ground? Because my ain't, but my hammies are coming into conctact with my calves.

[Bubonic]

How many calories a day should you eat if you're trying to put on weight?

Quick answer : More then you burn off.

[Colossal Spoons]

How have your energy levels been during your workouts since you went off the creatine?

jag

Ok, that has decreased but it could be due to a ton of other factors since starting this cut. I also haven't been getting a decent 8 hours of sleep lately(should next week though). I won't know if creatine was useless for me till I can do some more "research" :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

How many calories a day should you eat if you're trying to put on weight?

Quick answer : More then you burn off.

Slightly more complicated answer: At least 300 over maintenance intake

[mrvlknight21]

One of my new ambitions is to set off their "lunk alarm", that's right folks... They set off a ****ing alarm if they catch you grunting, groaning, doing deadlifts or anything else manly lol

Oh, and thanks for offering to view the vids even though you're busy... Like I said in the post it isn't that pretty, so today I did deload form 250lbs to 230lbs and it was perfect, ATG, face looking like a tomatoes, good upward drive and none of the same leaning forward crap and instability like in my last youtube vid.

btw, does ATG literally imply that my ass must touch the ground? Because my ain't, but my hammies are coming into conctact with my calves.

Hams to calves pretty much sums it up.
Did you see the other stuff I posted on the last page about planet fitness' rules?

[Bubonic]

Its something else, thats for sure.

There are none around me, but I have read blogs and news articles about their stupid rules and whatnot.

Its quite crazy.


Other rules along with what you named:

no dumbbells over 80 lbs

no do-rags, bandanas, skull caps

no gallon water jugs







All part of their "judgement free zone"












no gallon water jugs...wtf? Sounds like they are judging the typical bodybuilder or strongman types to me.


That means half of my dumbbell rack would not be allowed there:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/homegym013.jpg

I had missed this being that it was on the bottom of the page, haha wow. They have a beautiful capitalist system going on here!
Keep your members pampered and fat, lifetime memberships!

And yah, what hypocrisy, having a "lunk alarm" yet claiming it is judgement free. I understand that deadlifting done wrong can be harmful, but if done right it is one of the best exercises available.. How can you ban it?

Oh and awesome dumbbell set, I remember having the 25lbs in that series as a teen...Cuz you know, curlz was the only important exercise then.

Hope you aren't going to pay Japanese prices for your steak, heard they charge quite a lot over there for a fine cut of meat. Enjoy!

[Bubonic]

Is it normal for my knees to be aching after the first few times of going ATG?

Is there some adaptation period I am unaware of?

I made sure my form was good, knee following toes, knee not passing toes, no buckling, I deloaded... But today I squatted down to rest and it didn't feel so good.

Should I be worried, or do the ligaments take time to adapt to the stretch involved in going ATG? Isn't it bad to stretch the ligaments in the first place?

:huh:

inb4 stop being a pussy

[Golgo-13]

Went back to basics yesterday. Did pullups and bent over rows for my back, and bench presses and flys for the chest. Went as heavy as i could without loosing form.

Today i did 20 minutes of calves exercises: seated calves raises, donkey presses and one legged standing calve raises. Calves really felt the pump! :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Went back to basics yesterday. Did pullups and bent over rows for my back, and bench presses and flys for the chest. Went as heavy as i could without loosing form.

Today i did 20 minutes of calves exercises: seated calves raises, donkey presses and one legged standing calve raises. Calves really felt the pump! :up:

Hey buddy, I have wondered where you were lately. I almost sent you a PM over the weekend, but didnt.
Hope all is going well. I will see you in "The Shield" thread!

[Colossal Spoons]

Is it normal for my knees to be aching after the first few times of going ATG?

Is there some adaptation period I am unaware of?

I made sure my form was good, knee following toes, knee not passing toes, no buckling, I deloaded... But today I squatted down to rest and it didn't feel so good.

Should I be worried, or do the ligaments take time to adapt to the stretch involved in going ATG? Isn't it bad to stretch the ligaments in the first place?

:huh:

inb4 stop being a pussy

I had mad knee problems as a baby so I can't do ATG to often for my right MCL basically falls off. I try to go as far below parallel as I can though. You have any prior knee injuries?

[Bubonic]

I had mad knee problems as a baby so I can't do ATG to often for my right MCL basically falls off. I try to go as far below parallel as I can though. You have any prior knee injuries?


yah actually I do :csad:, partial tears in my lateral meniscus and acl in my right knee.
Both knees felt sore the day after, not one more then the other, and since I got my rest this weekend they feel fine today.

I'm going to see how I feel after today, maybe I'll be okay if I don't increase the weight too quickly.

[Golgo-13]

Hey buddy, I have wondered where you were lately. I almost sent you a PM over the weekend, but didnt.
Hope all is going well. I will see you in "The Shield" thread!

At least one of you cares!:woot:

[jaguarr]

Hams to calves pretty much sums it up.
Did you see the other stuff I posted on the last page about planet fitness' rules?

:up:

Is it normal for my knees to be aching after the first few times of going ATG?

Is there some adaptation period I am unaware of?

I made sure my form was good, knee following toes, knee not passing toes, no buckling, I deloaded... But today I squatted down to rest and it didn't feel so good.

Should I be worried, or do the ligaments take time to adapt to the stretch involved in going ATG? Isn't it bad to stretch the ligaments in the first place?

:huh:

inb4 stop being a pussy

I haven't had time to watch your vids, yet, but a few things come to mind off the top of my head.

One, you're trying to go too heavy. Sometimes you need to back the weight off to accommodate your knees better, particularly if you aren't used to this particular movement.

Two, if you're squatting more than once a week (twice tops), then you're probably putting a lot of additional stress on your knees (nor are you really giving yourself enough time to heal up.)

Three, you may need to point your toes forward a little more to reduce sheer stress.

And, four...and I saved this one for last because it's the most common culprit that I have seen in causing knee soreness with ATG Squats....when you are in the mechanics of the lift, be sure you are pushing straight up with the glutes, quads and hammies. I say "straight up", because a lot of people have a tendency to push out to the sides when they're on the uptake of the lift, sort of digging their feet in and pushing from the sides of their feet so that it puts a lot of stress on the knees and hips rather than focusing on pushing straight up through the lift. Let me know if that makes sense as I'm not sure I described that adequately.



At least one of you cares!:woot:

Who are you? :huh:


:p

jag

[Lunar_Wolf]

Didn't loose much this past week, got to try harder. Went to the gym and did some leg weights followed by cardio.