The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[JStorm]

Hey, cut and paste man, aka JStorm....nobody knows me as JB21 here.

:huh:


JB21 is, affectionately, known as your, lovable, MrvlKnight21 - Devil - on the Rosstraining boards.


Sheesh.

[Hush]

Ok he is NOT loveable! I kid, off to cook my legs til they are way past well done!

[JStorm]

Ok he is NOT loveable! I kid, off to cook my legs til they are way past well done!

I'd like to; but I think my back needs some attention. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I can always count on you for moral support.

I can hear the break-up, now:

"But. . . why? Who the hell is Spoons."


"Shut your mouth! Can you dig it? Spoons!"

Yeah dude, I'm here to help :D

[amazingfantasy15]

Part Two:

Update: 01.28.09.

So Christmas is over and my girl has been, somewhat of, a gym rat - since 01.01.09. Some of her problems areas have gotten better, weight, tone, exercises, etc. However, I update because we had, yet, another melt-down.

The other night, she wanted to do Chest and Tri's. I know, a bit clique, but hear me out. So upon beginning the workout, I told her we needed to warm up. Considering it was upper-body, I choose to do push-ups - ten to fifteen. She barely did ONE! Immediately after "doing one," she told me "I can't!" I replied, "if you say 'I can't' one more time, I will leave you to do this yourself."

Before I get 'jumped on' by the female crowd, allow me to explain. The previous week, she gave the same response, on the same workout. On that week, I told her she needed to try her best, vary the exercise, do something - so she would see progress. THAT WEEK, she actually did four to six push ups. Afterwords, we did a grueling upper body workout, for her at least, and she did ALL of the work. Further, JB21 can contend, she has been seen doing several push ups, on many different occasions.

One more point, and then to the melt down. Upon saying "I can't," she walked off and went to the track to walk - WALK!! This coming from the same girl who told me she wanted to work hard to get results. I understand she is frustrated. But instead of walking off and doing her OWN upper body workout, she went upstairs, to the track, to walk and gossip, about me - of course - to her friend. She walked the entire time I worked out. During her walk, I did chest cross-overs, bench, dips, tri-pulldowns, more pushups, incline bench, and flat-bench-dumbbell-presses. After words, once I began to run, she went down stairs, clearly still gossiping - one can tell when hands are talking more then lips and body language, hands on hips, etc. While I ran, then did burpees, she was still on the same machine - ONE!!

Melt down: Once we got in the car, I heard the lasting words that makes any man cringe: "we need to talk." I sat quiet, waiting for her to speak and she said "aren't you going to talk?" What? Like I am suppose to answer back "I agree." In my defense, a look of agreement and silence means "go ahead." The rest is personal jargon and need not apply. However, this brings me to my point/question.

I asked JB21 what he thought, last night. I wanted an answer in the context of 'what I should do, per the next workout.' Meaning, should I let her lead the way? Should I keep up the work, and ideals of "no whining?" How do I approach a person who wants to better themselves, but refuses to do most of the work?

I am at a loss. "Hey, sweetie, let's do legs." "I can't." o.0

Should I reply with the same: "Hey sweetie, I want to do legs today." "I can't."

In short, ladies and gentlemen, how would you all approach a candidate whom thrives on those two words? Male or female, girlfriend or boyfriend, etc.

And. . here we. . go!

Truthfully, you sound like a roided up, controlling ass. You start the post saying she's been doing really well, but because she doesn't want to do some pushups you get pissed. Maybe she didn't understand the point of the pushups, maybe she reall doesn't like that exercise, maybe you could've suggested some other way to warm up. Then you b*tch because she's walking on the track, well walking is much better than just sitting around doing nothing. Sounds like she might have just been a little tired or lazy that day and you responded to that in a horrible way. You say she's making noticable progress so she's obviously doing something right.

[Hush]

Today By The Numbers: 01/28/2009. All lifts are 4 sets withreps counting down 8,6,4,2. Except Calf raises, those are 4 sets of either 20-30.

Squat= Started at 225
Finished at 290

Calf Raises= Started at 135
Finished at 190

Straight Leg Romanian Grip Dead Lift= Started at 225
Finished at 335

Lateral Raises (standing)= Started at 20lbs dumbells
Finished at 35lbs dumbells

Seated Shoulder Press= Started at 35lbs dumbells
Finished at 50lbs dumbells

Upright Rows= Started at 95
Finished at 125

[mrvlknight21]

Truthfully, you sound like a roided up, controlling ass. You start the post saying she's been doing really well, but because she doesn't want to do some pushups you get pissed. Maybe she didn't understand the point of the pushups, maybe she reall doesn't like that exercise, maybe you could've suggested some other way to warm up. Then you b*tch because she's walking on the track, well walking is much better than just sitting around doing nothing. Sounds like she might have just been a little tired or lazy that day and you responded to that in a horrible way. You say she's making noticable progress so she's obviously doing something right.

Just so you know, thats not how it went down. We talked about it last night.
She asks for his help, then quits before starting. She told him that she wanted to do what he does for chest/triceps and then flakes out during the warm up!

She knows how to do pushups and I have seen them, why she decided to do only 1 and then say "I cant" this time is beyond me. But, this is a theme with her "I cant" is one of her favorite lines. Storm wouldnt ask her to do something she actually physically could not do.

She asked to do things HIS way, then backs out for no apparent reason. They have actually already had a talk about her giving up and not trying and he told her to keep a positive attitude and work hard and she would see results and that he would help her.

[JStorm]

Just so you know, thats not how it went down. We talked about it last night.
She asks for his help, then quits before starting. She told him that she wanted to do what he does for chest/triceps and then flakes out during the warm up!

She knows how to do pushups and I have seen them, why she decided to do only 1 and then say "I cant" this time is beyond me. But, this is a theme with her "I cant" is one of her favorite lines. Storm wouldnt ask her to do something she actually physically could not do.

She asked to do things HIS way, then backs out for no apparent reason. They have actually already had a talk about her giving up and not trying and he told her to keep a positive attitude and work hard and she would see results and that he would help her.

True.

And for the sake of being bias, I believe I have come to an understanding, within myself.

Tonight, for example, I am doing back and bi's. I will politely and calmly tell her, if she wishes so, to try and keep up, at her pace and her weight choice.

My leadership will be, every time she sacks, I work harder. Possibly, through visual confirmation - and some verbal - she will realize that I am busting my tail, breaking a sweat, and she should too. If not, then I know where her heart is.



As for being called a controlling ass - yes, I am. But as far as the situation, SHE asked ME for help. SHE told ME to do as I do. SHE told ME that she had goals and said goals were "xyz."

I know how to meet these goals, and if she wishes to have a softcore attitude, the she will get softcore results.

More late, when I return.


Controlling ass. . who does this guy think he's talking to? Don't think you can talk **** about me when I am gone. Devil is here and about my ****.



Your favorite ***hole,
Storm

[Doctor Jones]

But for the record he is completely wrong. All you will do is have very good muslce memory and stay slightly in shape but the guy who lifts and hits will always clean your clock.

Thank you.

[Cunning Stunts]

But for the record he is completely wrong. All you will do is have very good muslce memory and stay slightly in shape but the guy who lifts and hits will always clean your clock.

NOT.TRUE.AT.ALL.

Just because you have muscle mass and weight in your body DOES NOT mean that it will be used in your strikes. You have to know how to put this weight and muscle mass behind these strikes.

In my martial arts classes, I've had huge, muscular guys that couldn't punch to save their lives, and I've also had little, slim guys (most of us martial artists in general), who will take you down (with a punch, I might add) before your arm is even extended.

To assume that lifting makes you a better fighter is just ignorant. I've been a lifter for years, and it's helped my martial arts training, yes- but that's because I've trained properly and know how to use my weight and muscle mass in a fight. Someone without training and no knowledge of the technique behind fighting will not.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Hi Storm!

Perhaps ask your girlfriend how serious she is about having you as her trainer and set some rules or guidelines to avoid any miscommunication.

Obviously, I don't know what tone you have with her during the workouts and maybe she gets turned off by it? If that is the case, make it clear to her
"this is how I'm going to be when I train and support you during workouts."
"No whining is allowed."
"There may be times I may raise my voice. Do not take it personally."
Those are just an examples and only an examples. Just lay down the law since this is what she wants from you. And in the end it's up to her to WANT do the work for HERSELF.

Hope that makes sense and helps a little. I'm rooting for her to be in shape (whatever that is to her) and strong! :yay:

[mrvlknight21]

NOT.TRUE.AT.ALL.

Just because you have muscle mass and weight in your body DOES NOT mean that it will be used in your strikes. You have to know how to put this weight and muscle mass behind these strikes.

In my martial arts classes, I've had huge, muscular guys that couldn't punch to save their lives, and I've also had little, slim guys (most of us martial artists in general), who will take you down (with a punch, I might add) before your arm is even extended.

To assume that lifting makes you a better fighter is just ignorant. I've been a lifter for years, and it's helped my martial arts training, yes- but that's because I've trained properly and know how to use my weight and muscle mass in a fight. Someone without training and no knowledge of the technique behind fighting will not.


If I recall correctly, he is referring to football hits, not martial arts ones.
And I agree with you, weight training does not make you a better boxer/fighter/mma guy.

[SsM]

So, I just got out of the shower and looked in the mirror much to my surprise my abs are starting to define. It's quite strange. It's been a long time since I've seen muscle definition anywhere :P It's a good feeling though.

[Red Cherry Lips]

So, I just got out of the shower and looked in the mirror much to my surprise my abs are starting to define. It's quite strange. It's been a long time since I've seen muscle definition anywhere :P It's a good feeling though.

Congratulations, SsM! :up:

[mrvlknight21]

So, I just got out of the shower and looked in the mirror much to my surprise my abs are starting to define. It's quite strange. It's been a long time since I've seen muscle definition anywhere :P It's a good feeling though.

Good deal. I will be joining you on that very soon.

[SsM]

Best part about it It's only been three months! I can't wait to see the results in another three.

[Colossal Spoons]

NOT.TRUE.AT.ALL.

Just because you have muscle mass and weight in your body DOES NOT mean that it will be used in your strikes. You have to know how to put this weight and muscle mass behind these strikes.

In my martial arts classes, I've had huge, muscular guys that couldn't punch to save their lives, and I've also had little, slim guys (most of us martial artists in general), who will take you down (with a punch, I might add) before your arm is even extended.

To assume that lifting makes you a better fighter is just ignorant. I've been a lifter for years, and it's helped my martial arts training, yes- but that's because I've trained properly and know how to use my weight and muscle mass in a fight. Someone without training and no knowledge of the technique behind fighting will not.

If I recall correctly, he is referring to football hits, not martial arts ones.
And I agree with you, weight training does not make you a better boxer/fighter/mma guy.

Not to mention the fact that Hush said the guy who LIFTS AND HITS will be better than the guy who just hits. How is that even a refutable point? He didn't say a bodybuilder would destroy a lineman in a football game :huh:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Ha, nah you didn't sound like an anything. Now that we've established that you are a female, Superman79 will be here shortly to hit on you :(

ha ha too late i used my suave moves on her before he did, just so i can say i hit on her first. i remember my charm like it was yesterday "hey baby11! u r s0 hawt11!one!! interested in net-chat? i live with my mom! i pikked to hit on u, bc i have opt-shuns and u were the onli girl in the room"... wooo! i know i know. i came off original and too hot to trot. just dont go copying and pasting that all over the net guys, save some girls for me. ..... ha ha ha


No, not training for MMA, but some of it comes into play in my training. I actually hit the heavy bag yesterday after my run. I am in law enforcement, so that sort of thing is high on my list as far as how I need to train.

Im not a fan of machines at all, personally and as you can see from the above pics, I have a lot of odd equipment.
So, of course I like the odd stuff, you did just respond to my post about my equipment after all.
I do about 10 different kind of pullups (one of my favorite exercises), I have suggested some of these to Spoons in fact. Im not so good at the gymnastic moves (levers, planches, etc), but am working up to some of them.

Any other examples of odd exercises that you do?


So its just us? Cmon theres gotta be more who do these fun ones.

Well Ill reply in order. It makes sense you're in law enforcement. It always sucks to see guys who work out lots and put in that extra training just to end up with an office job. Then it just becomes a "for the ladies" thing, which is boring and try-hard. I gotta admit, Im a short guy and part of getting bigger is respect from the guys. Not everyone is cool enough not to judge off of looks, specially us guys.

I like the machines because: easy and cheap to move up weights. at home my stuff gets out dated and costs money to get bigger heavier weights. also i enjoy machine, bc for me they are free! with my college tuition. My favorite place to train is at the park, bc I dont feel like every other gym jock.

what are the pullups do you do? i can only think about maybe 5. people say you cant get big off of pullups, i gotta disagree and i think its how you do them. love pullups

also the other stuff i do just for the challenge are: one arm pushup stuff, L-seat stuff occasionally, planche work or planche pushups, odd pullups (one arm, wrist, etc,) plyometric jump exercises occasionally. if anyone has ideas that are outside this category that would fit in the "odd" or rare factor, let us know.

[Cunning Stunts]

If I recall correctly, he is referring to football hits, not martial arts ones.
And I agree with you, weight training does not make you a better boxer/fighter/mma guy.

If that is so, I apologize, as I misread the post.

If not, then game on. :cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

Here are some pullup variations.
Some of them I do, some of them I dont.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyix2Z-xL-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJzYaBhoeqQ&feature=related

Some of my favorites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWRoIIKdu0g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmzuF5WtpNw

And there are more variations than this....search for them!


Other things I like to do:
med ball slams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlgVRm4F1Ng

sledge swings/kettlebell swings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHewRCwL5k

rope climbs (dont use legs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzkNVQM_nmk

BURPEES! (of course)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Dq_NCzj8M

plyo box jumps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TErvOSs13xk


Gym ring work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ut5aNt8Sp8
(obviously there is alot more-dips, rows, muscle ups, etc, but you get the point).


I could name more, but you get the point.

[Hush]

If that is so, I apologize, as I misread the post.

If not, then game on. :cmad:

No need to be game on you were wrong.

[AndThePickles]

Yes I'm a woman. Did I sound like a man before? :woot:

I meant to tell you hello and welcome in another thread, so I'll do so here. It's always great to see another lady on this board! :heart:

[SsM]

I meant to tell you hello and welcome in another thread, so I'll do so here. It's always great to see another lady on this board! :heart:

Just be careful, for every 10 rational people here.. there are probably 50 irrational people!

[Silverstein]

I started my diet. I'm going to H and M later to buy some sweat clothes to start running. I'm taking you guys' advice....I can do this.

[SsM]

Good! just keep it up, and don't over do it at first or you will burn out!

[Silverstein]

Congratulations, SsM! :up:

You've been around since oct 07, so I don't know why everyone's saying "Welcome"....but, how about this....Hi. How are you?

[Silverstein]

Good! just keep it up, and don't over do it at first or you will burn out!

I'm just going to run the track a few times.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I meant to tell you hello and welcome in another thread, so I'll do so here. It's always great to see another lady on this board! :heart:

Thank you, Pickles! *hugs* :heart:

You've been around since oct 07, so I don't know why everyone's saying "Welcome"....but, how about this....Hi. How are you?

Either greeting is fine with me. :) However, I feel like I only started to participate on the Hype boards this past week. And am glad.:woot:

Thanks for asking, Silverstein! I'm doing well. Got a caliper measurement for the first time, yesterday. I'm 30% which is in the "acceptable" level of body fat percentage. Feels good to know my percentages are alright and to keep consistent on working out and eating better. When I get to "fitness" I'll be stoked.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q188/Anya7/BodyFatPercentageChart.jpg

[LastSunrise1981]

Completed my second day of bodybuilding training at the gym. It was relatively easy compared to the previous workout, but I'm still enjoying the prospects of possibly becoming a competitive/professional bodybuilder if all goes well.

On Tuesday it was the full workout with upper body, lower body, and cardio workout. Today it was just abs, legs, and then 20 minutes on the treadmill.

On Saturday it'll most likely be upper body or maybe just cardio. The manager, his friend, and my other workout friends are unpredictable with the workouts so it adds some freshness and it keeps it from getting boring, you know? But overall I'm doing very good so far and I'm not burnt out nor am I unmotivated.

I also added the necessary protein to my diet and since I haven't had fast food for a year, in the process, I removed Subway and Quizno's subs from my diet strictly changing it to meals from home. Everything is going great at the moment and I'm hoping later this year or next I'll be where I want to be. :up: :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm still enjoying the prospects of possibly becoming a competitive/professional bodybuilder if all goes well.

Oh wow, really? NICE

[LastSunrise1981]

Oh wow, really? NICE

Yeah, I still have a long way to go though. I'm nowhere near where I want to be in terms of my body and bodybuilding. But at the moment I am training very hard and I'm enjoying it very much.

The plan is at the end of this year or into next year I should be where I want to be hopefully.

[Colossal Spoons]

Enjoying it is a huge help. When the gym feels like a chore, that's when people lose focus and motivation.

[rizzo51]

i'm in that catagory, motivation is hard to come by

[LastSunrise1981]

Enjoying it is a huge help. When the gym feels like a chore, that's when people lose focus and motivation.

It also helps to have workout buddies who frequent the gym as much as I do as well. I managed to keep myself motivated even when I'm in there alone, because I'm the only one who can attain the body that I'm shooting for.

[rizzo51]

any tips for the obese? 33.9 bmi, 9 points over the "average" weight

[Colossal Spoons]

any tips for the obese? 33.9 bmi, 9 points over the "average" weight

The same advice I'd give to somebody looking to drop only half a pound:

"Cardio, do more of it. Calories, reduce them. Diet, clean it up."

[Colossal Spoons]

Amazing workout just now. Back/biceps/cardio. It's true what Arnold says about the pump you get post-workout ;) And I got a pretty good cardio-high, even read some good nutritional info in Muscle&Fitness while doing it :up:

[Shemtov]

What type of exercises are recomended for an endomorph (like myself)?

[Caped Crusader]

I actually am quitting the gym this week, im gonna start working out on my own, with my own free weights & running the track. Had a very painful infection which was possible mrsa, never wanna go through that again

[Colossal Spoons]

i'm in that catagory, motivation is hard to come by

You got a goal? Celebrity/bodybuilder/etc you'd like to look like? Bodyfat %? Just wanna look better in he mirror or naked?

It also helps to have workout buddies who frequent the gym as much as I do as well. I managed to keep myself motivated even when I'm in there alone, because I'm the only one who can attain the body that I'm shooting for.

Heh, all my friends dropped off the gym bandwagon long ago. I've got 1 who's into boxing but he's letting himself go. Shame. I'm plenty motivated by myself though, willpower FTW(I should be a Green Lantern :o) Makes it hard to workout with new gym-goers though.

[Colossal Spoons]

What type of exercises are recomended for an endomorph (like myself)?

Same as ectos and mesos. Your diet just has to be more strict.

I actually am quitting the gym this week, im gonna start working out on my own, with my own free weights & running the track. Had a very painful infection which was possible mrsa, never wanna go through that again

Aw, sorry to hear that man. MRSA is no fun.

[Caped Crusader]

Same as ectos and mesos. Your diet just has to be more strict.



Aw, sorry to hear that man. MRSA is no fun.

Yea, I dont know for sure that it came from the gym but I rather be safe than go through that again, that was the most painful thing I ever had to go through in my life. So like I said, i'll just buy some weights and run the track

[Colossal Spoons]

Can you achieve whatever your goal is by working out at home and running? Just cuz the gym has a wide variety of weights and machines.

[Caped Crusader]

Yea deffiently & to be honest I dont know why I didnt just buy my own weights sooner. I'm not really big into lifting but I love to stay in shape and have a nice muscle tone, but i'll have to do more sit ups & push ups since I wont be using the ab machines lol

[Colossal Spoons]

Ah ha, then you should be just fine.

As horrible as MRSA infections are, I find the bug fascinating :O

[Caped Crusader]

Oh and a good diet helps too! lol

[Caped Crusader]

I hate lag. EDIT

[SsM]

I had my cheat meal today. A ciabatta club and I might have a few bites of this lemon cake I bought.

[mrvlknight21]

I actually am quitting the gym this week, im gonna start working out on my own, with my own free weights & running the track. Had a very painful infection which was possible mrsa, never wanna go through that again

Good choice.

[Colossal Spoons]

The Hype is glitching up nicely tonight :huh:

[mrvlknight21]

Amazing workout just now. Back/biceps/cardio. It's true what Arnold says about the pump you get post-workout ;) And I got a pretty good cardio-high, even read some good nutritional info in Muscle&Fitness while doing it :up:

Yeah, after I ran the other day, I was so high, I wanted to read the Bible.
Seriously. I felt like my life was on track and I needed to connect w/ God bc I felt so good.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I zen'd out pretty bad on the ride home. I prayed and sang. Somebody cut me off and I didn't do the usual and curse and follow them for a few miles :heart:

I wish there were a way to release endorphins at will w/o eating fatty foods and chocolate haha

[mrvlknight21]

It also helps to have workout buddies who frequent the gym as much as I do as well. I managed to keep myself motivated even when I'm in there alone, because I'm the only one who can attain the body that I'm shooting for.

See, Im different on this one. People usually slow me down and get in the way. I do much better on my own-focus is better, less distractions, no let down when the workout partner doesnt show up, etc.

[mrvlknight21]

Same as ectos and mesos. Your diet just has to be more strict.



Aw, sorry to hear that man. MRSA is no fun.

Spoons is the new Jag! LOL!

[mrvlknight21]

The Hype is glitching up nicely tonight :huh:

Im not having any problems....

[Colossal Spoons]

Spoons is the new Jag! LOL!

Haha. I'd never attempt to fill those shoes.

Im not having any problems....

Weird :(

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, I zen'd out pretty bad on the ride home. I prayed and sang. Somebody cut me off and I didn't do the usual and curse and follow them for a few miles :heart:

I wish there were a way to release endorphins at will w/o eating fatty foods and chocolate haha

^^ wouldve loved to have seen that!

[lixdexia]

Yeah, I zen'd out pretty bad on the ride home. I prayed and sang. Somebody cut me off and I didn't do the usual and curse and follow them for a few miles :heart:

I wish there were a way to release endorphins at will w/o eating fatty foods and chocolate haha
there is a vein in the webbing between your thumb and index finger. squeeze this for a few (15-20) seconds and you will release a small amount of endorphins

[mrvlknight21]

A guy on another website that I frequent asked this question
"what is an alternative to pullups?"

HA! Silly Mortal! There is no alternative to pullups!!!!

[lixdexia]

A guy on another website that I frequent asked this question
"what is an alternative to pullups?"

HA! Silly Mortal! There is no alternative to pullups!!!!
why would you want an alternative to pull ups...it's one of the most fun excersizes you can do! if the was one essential excersize i'd like an alternative for it could only be squats i'd do 10 sets of deadlifts and legextensions rather than 1 set of squats if those would give me the same work

[Colossal Spoons]

^^ wouldve loved to have seen that!

T'was a sight, that's for sure.

there is a vein in the webbing between your thumb and index finger. squeeze this for a few (15-20) seconds and you will release a small amount of endorphins

*passes out*

[mrvlknight21]

there is a vein in the webbing between your thumb and index finger. squeeze this for a few (15-20) seconds and you will release a small amount of endorphins

Thats gross.

[Iceman]

I wish there were a way to release endorphins at will w/o eating fatty foods and chocolate hahaUhhh, exercise maybe?

[LastSunrise1981]

I'm curious, does anyone watch or listen to anything before working out in order to get motivated and pumped up? Normally I watch Arnold Schwarzenegger training videos or listen to Rocky music before working out.

In all honesty I find it distracting to workout with headphones and having an iPod.

Here are some interesting videos that provide motivation and information on new workouts in order to shock the muscles.

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[Hush]

I had a smoothie today and it was all fresh natural fruit and the guy even added a multi-vitamin to it! It was amazing. Arms and Back tom. Im keeping a weight journal to trakc my progress and get the numbers bigger.

[Shemtov]

Same as ectos and mesos. Your diet just has to be more strict.


.

alraedy on a diet becausen of various....er....complacations involved with being an endomorph who isnt so fit.





Aw, sorry to hear that man. MRSA is no fun.


I had that once. three times in a row, actually. I could hardly sleep.

[Colossal Spoons]

Uhhh, exercise maybe?

A brilliant plan lol

[Colossal Spoons]

alraedy on a diet becausen of various....er....complacations involved with being an endomorph who isnt so fit.

Not just watching what you eat; but how much and how often. "Diet" really isn't a good word. You need to change your eating habits :up:

[Hush]

Okay you jag wannabe!

[Be Snikt-Happy]

My youtube and flash arent working well right now but i saw parts of the video. I never saw some of those pull ups variations, im sure theres more to look at there. i like the side to side ones, def gotta try that out. i notice fedor emelianenko does fast hopping pull ups. i think because pull ups make it hard to cheat, doing them fast enough that you'd hop on the bars is definitely harder. most other exercises... doing it too fast would be using swing momentum to get the weight up.

you should also try planche or other type of odd pushup work.

[Lunar_Wolf]

I'm buying a bike this weekend or Monday :)

[Colossal Spoons]

Okay you jag wannabe!

Haha, you guys know me. What would be a good way to Spoons-ify this advice? Maybe I'll say "sucka" at the end of most sentences so new people won't think I'm trying to be jag lol.

[mrvlknight21]

My youtube and flash arent working well right now but i saw parts of the video. I never saw some of those pull ups variations, im sure theres more to look at there. i like the side to side ones, def gotta try that out. i notice fedor emelianenko does fast hopping pull ups. i think because pull ups make it hard to cheat, doing them fast enough that you'd hop on the bars is definitely harder. most other exercises... doing it too fast would be using swing momentum to get the weight up.

you should also try planche or other type of odd pushup work.

Well, definitely watch all of them when you get a sec. I love the side to side pullups a lot. There are some guys who move their feet like they are running in mid air when they do that version to work the abs as well. Very good version.

When you talk about the fast hopping pullups-Im not sure what you mean-like plyometric pullups? Because I linked 2 types of those (the last 2 pullup videos). One where you switch grips at the top and one where you clap your hands together at the top. When you say hopping, it sounds like you mean his feet hit the floor...

Planche work is tough. I didnt even get into the types of pushups that I like-there are probably 2x as many of those as pullups. One of the best is doing various ones on gym rings-including bow and arrow pushups on rings-excellent version.


Definitely try the spiderman pushup sometime as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHbJoeA1I4E

Let me know when you see all the vids, so we can discuss more.

[mrvlknight21]

Haha, you guys know me. What would be a good way to Spoons-ify this advice? Maybe I'll say "sucka" at the end of most sentences so new people won't think I'm trying to be jag lol.

Thats what I want.
:grin:

[Colossal Spoons]

haha

[Hush]

Bi's and Back today I hope to give them Hell!

[Cunning Stunts]

any tips for the obese? 33.9 bmi, 9 points over the "average" weight

First, forget about BMI, as even doctors regard it as a joke.

Find your Body Fat Percentage, and start working from there.

[Knightsaber Priss]

I just have a huge question for some of you guys in here. I seem to have the metabolism of a slug. I've tried a lot of things in the course of my lifetime to lose some belly flab, but to no great success. I've been reading an awful lot about the health benefits of the Acai Berry and how it is a natural, safe source to boost metabolism. Has anyone in here tried it and does it come in powder form to make drinks from?

[Cunning Stunts]

I don't know much about that, but drink a 20 oz. glass of water when you wake up (within an hour), and eat a healthy breakfast, and your metabolic rates will rocket for the day.

[Colossal Spoons]

Acai, Gogi, Noni. All great fruits but nothing to put too much faith in; as far as metabolism boosters go. good for antioxidants though :up:


sucka

[AndThePickles]

I say try looking for more Acai Berry products regardless of whether it ends up boosting your metabolism. Very good for you, and tasty!

[Hush]

Or you could just work out and run and such, that would help.

[mrvlknight21]

I don't know much about that, but drink a 20 oz. glass of water when you wake up (within an hour), and eat a healthy breakfast, and your metabolic rates will rocket for the day.

Good advice.
(also good advice on the BMI)

[mrvlknight21]

I say try looking for more Acai Berry products regardless of whether it ends up boosting your metabolism. Very good for you, and tasty!

I am sick of the Oprah influence on fitness.
Storm's girlfriend will hear Oprah approve of something, like acai berry juice and will swear it is the magic bullet to get her in better shape (rather than exercise and healthy eating).

Case in point, the other night, we went out to dinner and she said "you are supposed to have some olive oil everyday." I knew immediately where she got this and asked just to be sure. Yep-Oprah influence again.

[AndThePickles]

Haha, I haven't watched Oprah in years. I can only speak from experience...I've tried juices that contained Acai Berry and they were tasty and healthy. I'd never rely on them for my body image, though. Like Hush said, she needs to work out lol.

[mrvlknight21]

Haha, I haven't watched Oprah in years. I can only speak from experience...I've tried juices that contained Acai Berry and they were tasty and healthy. I'd never rely on them for my body image, though. Like Hush said, she needs to work out lol.

Yeah, that wasnt a knock at your comment and I apologize if it seemed that way ( I realize that I quoted you, but my response was actually to everyone). I guess I just hate people who believe anything that any one person says OR is always looking for the magic bullet to make them thin/fit.

Anyways, I dont have a problem w/ anyone drinking the acai berry or any other one, my only problem is with what I said above.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I just have a huge question for some of you guys in here. I seem to have the metabolism of a slug. I've tried a lot of things in the course of my lifetime to lose some belly flab, but to no great success. I've been reading an awful lot about the health benefits of the Acai Berry and how it is a natural, safe source to boost metabolism. Has anyone in here tried it and does it come in powder form to make drinks from?

Have you seen a doctor or a specialist in that area? They could run tests and give you an assessment on what you need to do to rev it up. Keep in mind if you get that gut feeling the doc just wants to give you meds to "cure" it ask if there are alternatives. Or get a second opinion. The less meds the better, I think.

I don't know much about that, but drink a 20 oz. glass of water when you wake up (within an hour), and eat a healthy breakfast, and your metabolic rates will rocket for the day.

I'm a fan of breakfast and drinking lots of water throughout the day. :up:

I say try looking for more Acai Berry products regardless of whether it ends up boosting your metabolism. Very good for you, and tasty!

I love dried acai in my oatmeal. It's expensive and I only get it if it's on sale. Mainly I eat my oatmeal plain or put sliced bananas in. And acai juice is yummy, too. I think it's a good source of vitamins and antioxidants. Like most fruits are. :)

[Red Cherry Lips]

*off topic*

-Ooh, I got my sig privileges back. :D

[Handsome Rob]

I just set a new personal bench press max record today at the gym -- 275 pounds. Not bad for a guy who's 6'4", 175 pounds, huh? :grin:

[Red Cherry Lips]

About Oprah, the shows I've caught recently on health were really good. But I don't come away thinking she gave me a cure. Just bringing awareness to the issue(s) is what I come away with. Maybe stuff I've never thought of looking into before or maybe it's a topic that brings the lightbulb on and makes me do something about it. Sorry for generalizing. In my opinion, she's someone who genuinely cares and wants to make a positive difference in people's lives.

But yeah, mrvlknight. I do agree. She's no health guru regardless of the experts on her show. I know I've had to figure it out for myself and what works best for me. And I'm always learning. You guys are a great help and support system here.:):up:

[Red Cherry Lips]

I just set a new personal bench press max record today at the gym -- 275 pounds. Not bad for a guy who's 6'4", 175 pounds, huh? :grin:

Damn, and I thought I was doing good by adding my first 5 lb weights to the bar when doing squats the other day. :O

That's awesome Rob! :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I just set a new personal bench press max record today at the gym -- 275 pounds. Not bad for a guy who's 6'4", 175 pounds, huh? :grin:

Congrats dude. Was it a 1-rep max?

[Scarlet spidey]

I'm on the South Beach diet. I've kind of gone my own way with it and I'll just end up eating 6 eggs on some days, though. It's been working pretty well for me so far.

[Hush]

Today (1/31/09) By The Numbers. Friday (Back and Bi's)

Romanian Grip Dead Lift= Start 295
Finish 365

4 Sets of 10 Wide Grip Pull-ups

Seated Incline Dumbell Curls= Start 35lbs Dumbells
Finish 50lbs Dumbells
Standing Bar Curls= Start 95
Finish 115

I did one other lift today with the 35's where you sit on the bench straight up and fully extend your arm with the weight in it and curl. You would know it if you saw it. Oh and as always I did 8,6,4,2 with every thing but the Pull Ups obviously. Comment if you like.

[Silverstein]

The diet was going well but then I had a pizza today. It took all day to eat it, and it was from Bertucci's (so healthier than normal pizza)...But it had a LOT of meat and cheeses. I feel like I failed myself. I even got to run today. So mad.

[Manic]

The diet was going well but then I had a pizza today. It took all day to eat it, and it was from Bertucci's (so healthier than normal pizza)...But it had a LOT of meat and cheeses. I feel like I failed myself. I even got to run today. So mad.
Do you already have a "cheat day" set aside during the week for you to eat the unhealthy junk? It helps fight off temptation if you can say "it's okay, I'll just have a pizza/burger/burrito/whatever on [blank]day."

[Handsome Rob]

Damn, and I thought I was doing good by adding my first 5 lb weights to the bar when doing squats the other day. :O

That's awesome Rob! :up:

Thanks!

[Handsome Rob]

Congrats dude. Was it a 1-rep max?

Thanks! It was a 1-rep. I started out with 5 reps of 135, then 1 rep of 225 to "warm up." Finally I did the 1 rep of 275.

[AndThePickles]

The diet was going well but then I had a pizza today. It took all day to eat it, and it was from Bertucci's (so healthier than normal pizza)...But it had a LOT of meat and cheeses. I feel like I failed myself. I even got to run today. So mad.

You ate the ENTIRE pizza? Next time try to keep it to a couple slices, and on a day where you can have one cheat meal.

[Red Cherry Lips]

The diet was going well but then I had a pizza today. It took all day to eat it, and it was from Bertucci's (so healthier than normal pizza)...But it had a LOT of meat and cheeses. I feel like I failed myself. I even got to run today. So mad.


Did you run a lot? Many miles? More than an hour? I get major hunger pangs when I run for an hour or depending on the distance. And if there's a pizza lying around in the apartment... :wow:

Hang in there, Silverstein! Be sure to surround yourself with fresh fruit and veggies and healthy, delicious nutritious meals. Watch the portion sizes. Manic and Pickles' tip on a "cheat day" is great advice, too! :up:

[Silverstein]

Do you already have a "cheat day" set aside during the week for you to eat the unhealthy junk? It helps fight off temptation if you can say "it's okay, I'll just have a pizza/burger/burrito/whatever on day."

No...But I guess I'll make that day it.:yay:

[B]You ate the ENTIRE pizza? Next time try to keep it to a couple slices, and on a day where you can have one cheat meal.

lol That doesn't make me feel worse...:oldrazz: Heh..No, you're right. Will do...:woot:

Did you run a lot? Many miles? More than an hour? I get major hunger pangs when I run for an hour or depending on the distance. And if there's a pizza lying around in the apartment... :wow:

Hang in there, Silverstein! Be sure to surround yourself with fresh fruit and veggies and healthy, delicious nutritious meals. Watch the portion sizes. Manic and Pickles' tip on a "cheat day" is great advice, too! :up:


Heh...hours....heh heh miles...Actually no, it might have been like 2 miles, between one and two. But yeah thanks for the support and advice guys!! I will so totally do this right!!

[Nirvana]

So I started a small diet this week. I stopped drinking soda and coffee all together (which is extremely hard to keep up), I'm watching a lot of what I eat which means no fatty, greasy or fried foods and junk foods, and I'm mostly snacking of vegetables, fruits, and cereals. For dinners I've mostly been steaming food and grilling (with no particularly clogging marinades) with small portions with no excessive sides. Friday is my cheat day that I'll snack on junk food/eat out and have a cup of coffee/soda. So far it's been really good, I feel happier for some reason if that makes any sense. Any tips or suggestions?

[AndThePickles]

Coffee isn't bad for you, it's the soda that's best to cut out altogether.

[Nirvana]

I'm just trying to lessen my intake of caffeine in general. But so far everything else seems to be going pretty good. Open to any suggestions, though.

[SsM]

Yeah, I drink coffee in my protein shakes. It's those crazy sugar filled Starbucks/C'C's coffees that are loaded with shots of "flavor" that are horrible for you!

[Manic]

Coffee isn't really that bad unless you're drinking enough to bug out or pack it with sugar. Moderate caffeine is supposed to be good for the metabolism.

I drink tea, personally.

[Nirvana]

I've actually been drinking tea more so than coffee. I find it more stimulating if that makes any sense.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Heh...hours....heh heh miles...Actually no, it might have been like 2 miles, between one and two. But yeah thanks for the support and advice guys!! I will so totally do this right!!

How long has it been since you last took up running? The reason I ask is if it's your first time in awhile then it may be a good idea to take it slow and easy. Or maybe even start with brisk walking to take it easy on the knees. A friend, on another forum, posted a good article about running to lose weight may not be a good thing to pursue. Figure Athlete - No Business Running! Why Running Is More Advanced Than You Think by Rachel Cosgrove (http://www.figureathlete.com/free_online_article/training/no_business_running)

It's great you're determined. And when set-backs occur just pick yourself up and stay focused.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I've actually been drinking tea more so than coffee. I find it more stimulating if that makes any sense.

It took me awhile but I cut out coffee. Mainly because I drank so much of it I got heart palpitations. :wow:

My doctor told me tea is much better for me because it has less caffeine, on the whole, and if I'm really craving coffee I opt for expresso because it's a dark roast and the way it's processed most of the impurities are burnt out (like pesticides). I don't get that queasy feeling like I used to with regular coffee.

Water and tea (black, green, chai) are my main drinking staples. And I agree, I perk up more with a cup of tea (no sugar or cream) too. :)

[Star]

Yeah, I drink coffee in my protein shakes. It's those crazy sugar filled Starbucks/C'C's coffees that are loaded with shots of "flavor" that are horrible for you!

Well Starbucks coffee is just regular coffee, it's when you add the stuff ON REQUEST that it becomes bad for you.... Same thing with Lattes. A latte (from sbux, or any coffee place) is just steamed milk and espresso. It's when the customer adds a huge amount of sugar that it gets bad. :csad:

You can clearly tell I work at Starbucks :o

[Silverstein]

DP thanks, but I think I'm going to take a break until spring. School is time consuming and I got a lot of stuff going on...And I have this drinking problem and stuff. So I'm just going to run later.

I mean I'm sure I can do it....just not right now.

[Colossal Spoons]

No excuses come April then

[Lunar_Wolf]

I try to avoid caffeine due to how much of a bad sleeper I am. Getting my bike in a few hours :D

[Hush]

Chest and Tri's today have to wait until I get off work though so thats easily 5:30-6pm. I hate waiting that long!

[mrvlknight21]

DP thanks, but I think I'm going to take a break until spring. School is time consuming and I got a lot of stuff going on...And I have this drinking problem and stuff. So I'm just going to run later.

I mean I'm sure I can do it....just not right now.

Wow. Just wow.
:huh::huh::huh:
Unreal.

[Red Cherry Lips]

DP thanks, but I think I'm going to take a break until spring. School is time consuming and I got a lot of stuff going on...And I have this drinking problem and stuff. So I'm just going to run later.

I mean I'm sure I can do it....just not right now.

Do little things in the meantime like surrounding your environment with healthy snacks and order healthier take-out that taste good. Keep the portions under control as well. Just some tips until the April workout resumes. :yay:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

debating whether to start cutting fat or if i should bulk up more. i was doing good from the summer til november. then after that i guess i didnt get enough sleep or eat enough. it would suck starting to cut, knowing that im not at the height of the bulk.

[JStorm]

Wow. Just wow.
:huh::huh::huh:
Unreal.

I had a drinking problem. I went to jail; you didn't bail me out.

You made me do burpees for bond. :(

[mrvlknight21]

I had a drinking problem. I went to jail; you didn't bail me out.

You made me do burpees for bond. :(

Whats your point?

[JStorm]

Whats your point?

Having a laugh, is all.

[mrvlknight21]

Having a laugh, is all.

Yeah, I think you need to do some burpees right NOW. :cmad:

[JStorm]

Yeah, I think you need to do some burpees right NOW. :cmad:

Gotta wait for Liza to watch the clock. I could set my Storm to set off at a minute. Could be useful.

[mrvlknight21]

Gotta wait for Liza to watch the clock. I could set my Storm to set off at a minute. Could be useful.

SWEAR TO ME!!!:cmad:

[LastSunrise1981]

My Bodybuilding training update:

Completed my fourth day of bodybuilding training. Needless to say my arms are very sore and so are my abs, but I still feel good and don't feel burned out at all. Right now we're in the process of breaking up the workouts and just doing arms/chest/abs one day, cardio the next, legs the next day, and so forth.


It felt good to be back in the gym today. Although during the workout it felt like I hadn't been in a while, however, I had already did my three days last week so it was weird having weights be heavy again. Overall the training is still going great, the diet is helping, and one thing I haven't lost is the desire to continue getting better and not losing motivation.


The word "I can't" has been removed from my vocabulary and I'm always looking to improve and push myself to the limits.

After training I showered and had a really, really big meal. My mom baked some chicken and I had three chickens, along with a bowl of fruit and two bottled waters. Needless to say I was tired and sore afterwards but it felt good to eat a home cooked meal to repair the muscles and to recover in general.

[mrvlknight21]

Very nice LastSunrise.

Legs and back for me tonight.

I also need to review this new piece of equipment and put it on here for you guys (reminding myself).

[Colossal Spoons]

Fixed my form on Facepulls and DB Shrugs this morning, had not been doing them as efficiently as possible this whole time. My traps and rear delts hurt already :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Cover the facepulls with me again...

[Colossal Spoons]

gsbIKP3Xvt4

[JStorm]

SWAER TO ME!!!:cmad:

I love this man.


There. . . I said it.

[Hush]

Legs hurt? Check. Shoulders ache? Check. Protein in the system? Check.

Work out complete. Mission Accomplished.

[ShadowBoxing]

Don't know who watches the Today Show around here, but this morning they did a segment on TV informercial fitness products with Jenna Wolfe and truth be told, that chick is jacked. I did not see it coming either, she just started messing around with the pullup and push up equipment and was doing push ups on her toes and pull-ups/chin-ups with ease. She even did a little gymnastic-esque dismount from the pull-up bar. In-freakin'-credible.

Here is the reporter, Jenna Wolfe
For a tiny chick she has lats and traps for weeks, woowza.

[Colossal Spoons]

She looks like she's cute depending on the lighting :o

[mrvlknight21]

gsbIKP3Xvt4

Alright thanks.
I dont see how I could replicate that move w/ free weights. :csad:

[mrvlknight21]

Good call SB,
here is a link to that vid by the way:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29031743#29031743

[Red Cherry Lips]

I'm going to add this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBZiwFRG9s4&feature=related) to my at-home routine. Never did burpees before. My friend said in her SKB class the instructor uses it to punish them if the whole class isn't counting out loud or responding to her.:wow:

[Colossal Spoons]

Alright thanks.
I dont see how I could replicate that move w/ free weights. :csad:

Grab some tree branches, you got plenty :p

[mrvlknight21]

I'm going to add this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBZiwFRG9s4&feature=related) to my at-home routine. Never did burpees before. My friend said in her SKB class the instructor uses it to punish them if the whole class isn't counting out loud or responding to her.:wow:

Haha, read my sig!!
I have been preaching burpees forever as a full body conditioner.

[mrvlknight21]

Grab some tree branches, you got plenty :p

You want me to just pull the tree branches towards my face??

[Manic]

Don't know who watches the Today Show around here, but this morning they did a segment on TV informercial fitness products with Jenna Wolfe and truth be told, that chick is jacked. I did not see it coming either, she just started messing around with the pullup and push up equipment and was doing push ups on her toes and pull-ups/chin-ups with ease. She even did a little gymnastic-esque dismount from the pull-up bar. In-freakin'-credible.

Here is the reporter, Jenna Wolfe
For a tiny chick she has lats and traps for weeks, woowza.

Good call SB,
here is a link to that vid by the way:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29031743#29031743
The push-up part was priceless.
"You can do it on your knees. It's easier that way." Then Jenna gave her that look. :hehe:

[JStorm]

Haha, read my sig!!
I have been preaching burpees forever as a full body conditioner.

Burpees are a way of life.


And Devil, I'd rather give you cash.

[JStorm]

Good call SB,
here is a link to that vid by the way:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29031743#29031743

Liza is doing pull-ups, until she tosses.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Haha, read my sig!!
I have been preaching burpees forever as a full body conditioner.

That good huh? How many do you recommend for a beginner to do? Or just do as many until I conk out?

Full body conditioner, eh? I'd like that because I want to firm-up more. Everywhere. Especially the lower half.

[JStorm]

That good huh? How many do you recommend for a beginner to do? Or just do as many until I conk out?

Full body conditioner, eh? I'd like that because I want to firm-up more. Everywhere. Especially the lower half.

Start with 8 reps, by 4.

[Hush]

Up the reps to 16 and you will be fine, what kind of shape are you in?

[Cunning Stunts]

Do 8-10 on a heavier weight for strength, 11-15+ with a more manageable weight for endurance and toning.

Just a quick reference for newcomers.

[Colossal Spoons]

You want me to just pull the tree branches towards my face??

No no, don't be silly. Pull your pace towards the branches :o

[Red Cherry Lips]

Start with 8 reps, by 4.

Up the reps to 16 and you will be fine, what kind of shape are you in?

Do 8-10 on a heavier weight for strength, 11-15+ with a more manageable weight for endurance and toning.

Just a quick reference for newcomers.


Thanks for the recommendations everyone!

About what shape I'm in, I'm 5 feet tall, 113 lbs, and my level of body fat is at 30% when I did the caliper measurement. So I'd say I'm okay but could be better. Would like to burn off a little more body fat and tone-up.

In October last year I was at a high of 120 lbs. Heaviest in my life and I didn't want it to accelerate. Even worse, my energy levels sucked. I feel I've made pretty good progress after joining & going to the gym, getting rid of vices around the house (like chips), and choosing healthier, delicious options for food and drink. I've also incorporated simple work outs at home like doing curls, lifts, (sad-looking) push-ups on the yoga mat, sit-ups on the exercise ball.

[titan101]

anyone else here ****ing love kettlebells ?

[Colossal Spoons]

Golgo-13 does

[Scar Predator]

anyone else here ****ing love kettlebells ?
Yes, indeed. I had often seen them but never taken the time to familiarize myself until one of my physical therapists had me use them. I like how they challenge surrounding muscle groups without sacrificing the targeted area. They do wonders for one's grip regardless of the exercise. I talked to my gym supervisor about getting some heavier ones in stock.

[Star]

I've been training for about a week now and today I noticed when I was doing lunges (sort of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-IuNtuzm8) that my left knee really hurt...

Does anyone know any stretches that might help with that? Does it just mean I have bad knees?

[Colossal Spoons]

You might have bad knees :(

Or your form is incorrect :p

[Red Cherry Lips]

I've been training for about a week now and today I noticed when I was doing lunges (sort of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-IuNtuzm8) that my left knee really hurt...

Does anyone know any stretches that might help with that? Does it just mean I have bad knees?

I've never done that one with the twist. I usually do Single Leg Lunges with Dumbbells (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXwN7_3tnw) at the gym. The first time I did lunges, my knees were sore. But the next time (maybe a couple of days later) I did it again and they were fine. Maybe they're used to it now? *shrugs*

Wishing you much success with your training, Star! :yay:

[mrvlknight21]

Do 8-10 on a heavier weight for strength, 11-15+ with a more manageable weight for endurance and toning.

Just a quick reference for newcomers.

This is incorrect.
We are not talking about a weight training move.
This is a full body, bodyweight only conditioner, like jumping jacks or sprinting.

[mrvlknight21]

anyone else here ****ing love kettlebells ?

I like them. They are a nice alternative and addition to what I do.

[mrvlknight21]

Start with 8 reps, by 4.

I disagree with this as well.
Burpees are a lot like sprinting. I hesitate to put a set number on them, because often the oxygen deprivation that comes from them will hit you once you have stopped.
I would say go to a number that is tolerable. Rest and repeat. Record that number and attempt to do more the next time. Also, go faster than the guys in the video that you posted. Burpees should be performed at a fast rate (again..think of it like a sprint).

Remember, this is a full body conditioner, not a muscle builder.
A lot of people believe this exercise is one of the best for dropping fat.

[mrvlknight21]

I think I may post a video of some burpees w/ good form and a good rate of speed.
There are also various versions that I could include.

[SuBe]

I've lost nearly 11 Pounds in the last 4 weeks using LiveStrong.com's calories counter. Plus, I've stopped smoking cigarettes, and am 1 week and 3 days down.

[AndThePickles]

I've been training for about a week now and today I noticed when I was doing lunges (sort of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-IuNtuzm8) that my left knee really hurt...

Does anyone know any stretches that might help with that? Does it just mean I have bad knees?

Lunges can be hard on the knees no matter how good your form is. Are you stretching after you workout, overall? I know that's something I often neglect to do, and it's really important.

[mrvlknight21]

I've lost nearly 11 Pounds in the last 4 weeks using LiveStrong.com's calories counter. Plus, I've stopped smoking cigarettes, and am 1 week and 3 days down.

Awesome work!
Now if we can just get the Fairtax passed....

[mrvlknight21]

I've been training for about a week now and today I noticed when I was doing lunges (sort of like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf-IuNtuzm8) that my left knee really hurt...

Does anyone know any stretches that might help with that? Does it just mean I have bad knees?

Have you had any knee problems or injuries in the past?
Are you making sure that your front knee doesnt go past the toe?

[SuBe]

Awesome work!
Now if we can just get the Fairtax passed....
I'm working on that too. :yay:

[ShadowBoxing]

Good call SB,
here is a link to that vid by the way:
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29031743#29031743
Geez, with the huge ass latimus dorsi. That girl has a stacked back. I'm jealous:csad:...and a little turned on :p

[terry78]

Geez, with the huge ass latimus dorsi. That girl has a stacked back. I'm jealous:csad:...and a little turned on :p

Wonder Woman syndrome....we all have it.

[ShadowBoxing]

Wonder Woman syndrome....we all have it.
She'd still kneel before my power, but she'd put up a good fight:hehe:

[Colossal Spoons]

Wonder Woman syndrome....we all have it.

I've openly admitted being quite attracted to a muscular woman :o:up:

[AndThePickles]

I've openly admitted being quite attracted to a muscular woman :o:up:

Which is a good thing, as long as you don't ever expect me to become as muscular as Beth Phoenix.

[Colossal Spoons]

Which is a good thing, as long as you don't ever expect me to become as muscular as Beth Phoenix.

You get as muscular as you want :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I tried hitting the outer head of my biceps by doing incline bench DB bicep curls this morning. Holy crap, I'd def been neglecting the outer half of my biceps for too long. These are becoming staples in my routine :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

I've openly admitted being quite attracted to a muscular woman :o:up:
Heh Heh, I'm now Jenna Wolfe's friend on Facebook, lol:oldrazz:

[AndThePickles]

I couldn't really tell how muscular she was from the vid due to her being so clothed the whole time.

[ShadowBoxing]

I couldn't really tell how muscular she was from the vid due to her being so clothed the whole time.
Watch the split second after she dismounts from the Total Gym Chin up bar, because you can totally see the girls got some width on her back.

[AndThePickles]

Watch the split second after she dismounts from the Total Gym Chin up bar, because you can totally see the girls got some width on her back.

I also googled her...she's definitely got some broad, muscled shoulders, too.

[Colossal Spoons]

Jamie Koeppe might be the best muscle-broad out there right now :o

[ShadowBoxing]

It's weird, she's got a very normal Facebook page, tons of photos of her drinking downtown with friends who aren't famous. It's all very upfront and personal, and very disarming. It's weird to see someone on TV just act normal.

[AndThePickles]

Jamie Koeppe might my the best muscle-broad out there right now :o

I'd love to be in her kind of shape.

[ShadowBoxing]

She is amazing.

[Hush]

I tried hitting the outer head of my biceps by doing incline bench DB bicep curls this morning. Holy crap, I'd def been neglecting the outer half of my biceps for too long. These are becoming staples in my routine :up:

Yeah I found out about them and havent stopped since, the key is to almost fully extend your arm. I love that lift I really feel the burn on it.

[Colossal Spoons]

I got pretty long arms so my DBs usually touch the floor lol

[Hush]

I hear you on that man! Im a short guy with longer arms, not gorilla like but long enough.

I got a question for all the guys here really, has anyone waxed there chest. I ask because i shave mine and I was looking to maybe wax it and wasnt sure if was deemed gay or not, just so I can show off my pecs.

[titan101]

Jamie Koeppe might be the best muscle-broad out there right now :o
* looks up name *

* finds pics *

holy **** she's hot !!! :wow: great ass especially . :hehe:

[Colossal Spoons]

I got a question for all the guys here really, has anyone waxed there chest. I ask because i shave mine and I was looking to maybe wax it and wasnt sure if was deemed gay or not, just so I can show off my pecs.

Never waxed my chest but I did let ATP nair my back lol

[Hush]

Interesting, I just was watching PI the other day and I figured Arnold had to have his chest waxed to keep it that way.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd totally get laser hair removal done to the majority of my body :o

[Hush]

I guess that would work to. lol So yeah I will be watching my dads house in 2 weeks and will have full acces to his golds gym membership. Im kinda excited but also not sure how it will feel to be in a gym again, I havent stepped foot in one in about 9 months. I wonder what they will think of me doing deads in there facility. I mean I make my house shake when i put that weight down wonder what the gym will do. At least I will be able to do Lat pulldowns. Something the basement can't offer.

[Colossal Spoons]

Gold's should be no stranger to deadlifting. It's not Planet Fitness :whatever:

[enterthemadness]

I know it's not much, but I can bench press 150lbs five times. And I only weight about 123 pds. I work out when I can on my days off and use the perfect pushups bout 4 days a week. And yes, they are worth the money imo. But if you are pretty good at doing push ups the old fashion way...then, you might not need them.

[mrvlknight21]

Gold's should be o stranger to deadlifting. It's not Planet Fitness :whatever:

Ah yes, the infamous "lunk alarm!"

[mrvlknight21]

I know it's not much, but I can bench press 150lbs five times. And I only weight about 123 pds. I work out when I can on my days off and use the perfect pushups bout 4 days a week. And yes, they are worth the money imo. But if you are pretty good at doing push ups the old fashion way...then, you might not need them.

Good job man.
I do disagree with you about the perfect pushup though. I got a pair for 70 cents and dont consider them a steal at all. I know those w/ wrist problems may benefit from them, but there are SOOOOO many pushup variations out there that one could use and master, I dont see the need for these. And of course, there are non rotating pushup handles for about 1/3 the cost of the perfect pushup...or you could use a hex dumbbell.

[mrvlknight21]

Interesting, I just was watching PI the other day and I figured Arnold had to have his chest waxed to keep it that way.

Either waxed or shaved and that goes for just about every bodybuilder, professional wrestler, male model, etc.

My body hair is the stuff of legend around here. But I do trim some areas w/ an electric hair clipper from time to time.

[enterthemadness]

Good job man.
I do disagree with you about the perfect pushup though. I got a pair for 70 cents and dont consider them a steal at all. I know those w/ wrist problems may benefit from them, but there are SOOOOO many pushup variations out there that one could use and master, I dont see the need for these. And of course, there are non rotating pushup handles for about 1/3 the cost of the perfect pushup...or you could use a hex dumbbell.

Thank you!

What is a hex dumbbell?

[Hush]

It just means that the head of the dumbell is in the shape of a hexagon.

[ShadowBoxing]

Thank you!

What is a hex dumbbell?
A hexagon shaped dumbbell.

[mrvlknight21]

Like so
http://www.amazon.com/CAP-Barbell-Solid-Gray-Dumbbell/dp/B000LO9YCA

[enterthemadness]

You can do pushups with dumbells? Awesome.......noodles.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, cuz they won't roll away like circular DBs

[SsM]

I hear you on that man! Im a short guy with longer arms, not gorilla like but long enough.

I got a question for all the guys here really, has anyone waxed there chest. I ask because i shave mine and I was looking to maybe wax it and wasnt sure if was deemed gay or not, just so I can show off my pecs.

I shaved mine in high school when I swam a lot. I never waxed though ._.

[Mario_Galaxy]

I shaved mine in high school when I swam a lot. I never waxed though ._.
The other swimmers used to bust my balls because I didn't shave my chest for state. Apparently shaving my legs wasn't enough. :( :woot:

[Nightmare]

Just use some hair clippers, that trims it and makes it look nice and not all sasquash like.

[Hush]

Chest and tri's today!

[Hush]

SO yeah i ripped my chest and tris apart today and it felt glorious!

[Colossal Spoons]

Good job dood, mine are sore from yesterday too :up:

[Hush]

I think im obsessed with working out! Oh 2 more weeks including this week and i start creatine again.

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been creatine free for months now; besides what little is in pre-workout pump supps.

[mrvlknight21]

I've been creatine free for months now; besides what little is in pre-workout pump supps.

Yeah, although I advocate creatine use, I havent used it in a couple of years.

Current suppl:
Mega Men vitamin
Fish oil
ZMA
ADS lean mass builder protein for post workout shake
http://www.betterbodiesnutrition.com/product_info.php?products_id=1047

[Colossal Spoons]

I dropped it in order to see the progress I'm making on my cut. I plan on getting back on that horse once my bulk starts again in Sept.

[Hush]

Yeah I just wanted to see what I could accomplish off of it and so far it hasnt been that bad.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

just left the NY comic con thread. anyone from here cosplay? the lifting has got to come handy there

[Red Cherry Lips]

just left the NY comic con thread. anyone from here cosplay? the lifting has got to come handy there

I've cosplayed for Halloween but my characters didn't require any lifting. :D

I would imagine if one were to do an accurate representation of Wonder Woman or Supergirl, for example, then I could see the lifting doing some good. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I need to lift a lot more if I wanna be a Mauler Twin from Invincible :D

[Hush]

I was spidey for Halloween but that was before i was enlightened by Jag on my work outs.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

I just started the Body for Life Challenge this week. So far so good. Upper body is still sore from Monday and today was legs, not sore yet but I know they will be. I changed up my diet as well. I plan on stickin to it pretty tight for the next 3 months. (I'm tryin to get those 25G's)

[mrvlknight21]

I just started the Body for Life Challenge this week. So far so good. Upper body is still sore from Monday and today was legs, not sore yet but I know they will be. I changed up my diet as well. I plan on stickin to it pretty tight for the next 3 months. (I'm tryin to get those 25G's)

Its a pretty good program. I did it in the past.
So, you are in the whole contest and all? Good. Thats some good motivation right there.
Good luck.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

Its a pretty good program. I did it in the past.
So, you are in the whole contest and all? Good. Thats some good motivation right there.
Good luck.

Thanks, I'll need it!

[Hush]

Damn I tore my legs a new one today! It was great to squat again I fixed my form and my back doesnt ache as much. Oh yeah and a new personal Max 305! On squat!

[Colossal Spoons]

Congrats!

[Doctor Jones]

I've been following a routine where I started at 25 in Decemer, each time I do it, I add another sit up.

I do regular sit ups for whatever have you, inclined sit ups on my couch all the way, and then on the couch half way. Then I do leg lifts at the end.

If I follow this, how will it take to get a six pack?

[SsM]

DO you do any cardio?

[mrvlknight21]

I've been following a routine where I started at 25 in Decemer, each time I do it, I add another sit up.

I do regular sit ups for whatever have you, inclined sit ups on my couch all the way, and then on the couch half way. Then I do leg lifts at the end.

If I follow this, how will it take to get a six pack?

Thats a bad question actually.
Abs arent made w/ situps, not even hundreds of them.

You need to check that diet, get on the cardio and a full body routine for a well developed, attractive, fit look (including abs).

[mrvlknight21]

I've been following a routine where I started at 25 in Decemer, each time I do it, I add another sit up.

I do regular sit ups for whatever have you, inclined sit ups on my couch all the way, and then on the couch half way. Then I do leg lifts at the end.

If I follow this, how will it take to get a six pack?

Thats a bad question actually.
Abs arent made w/ situps, not even hundreds of them.

You need to check that diet, get on the cardio and a full body routine for a well developed, attractive, fit look (including abs).

[JStorm]

Burpees.

[AndThePickles]

A yummy way to prepare chicken! I just tried this recipe tonight:

Japanese Chicken-Scallion Rice Bowl

Ingredients

1. 1 1/2 cups instant brown rice
2. 1 cup reduced-sodium chicken broth
3. 1 1/2 tablespoons sugar
4. 2 tablespoons reduced-sodium soy sauce
5. 1 tablespoon mirin
6. 2 large egg whites
7. 1 large egg
8. 8 ounces boneless, skinless chicken breasts, cut into 1/2-inch pieces
9. 6 scallions, trimmed and thinly sliced

Cooking Directions

1. Prepare instant brown rice according to package directions.
2. Pour broth into a heavy medium saucepan, along with sugar, soy sauce and mirin. Bring to a boil; reduce heat to medium-low.
3. Stir egg whites and whole egg in a small bowl until just mixed. Add chicken to the simmering broth. Gently pour in the egg mixture, without stirring. Sprinkle scallions on top. When the egg starts to firm up, after about 3 minutes, stir it with chopsticks or a knife. (The chicken will be cooked by now.) Divide the rice among 4 deep soup bowls and top with the chicken mixture.

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Here's the quintessence of Japanese home cooking: an aromatic, protein-rich broth served over rice. Admittedly, Japanese cooking leans heavily on sugar--for a less traditional taste, you could reduce or even omit the sugar.
Notes:

Ingredient Tip

Mirin is a low-alcohol rice wine essential to Japanese cooking. Look for it in your supermarket with the Asian or gourmet ingredients. An equal portion of sherry or white wine with a pinch of sugar may be substituted for mirin.

http://food.yahoo.com/recipes/eatingwell/695/japanese-chicken-scallion-rice-bowl


High in protein, very low in fat. I loved it! I added more chicken, and used only one tablespoon of sugar. I also didn't have mirin sitting around my kitchen and didn't feel like going to the store just for that, so I omitted it. I added a few drops of sesame oil, instead. I'm sure it would taste even better with the mirin.

This was absurdly easy to cook, and the sugar and mirin could easily be taken out and substituted with something spicy, such as red pepper flakes or a good Asian hot sauce.

[Hush]

I set off little atom bombs in my arms and Back today! also got a new PR of 380 dl, for a guy who weighs about 180, thats not bad.

[mrvlknight21]

I set off little atom bombs in my arms and Back today! also got a new PR of 380 dl, for a guy who weighs about 180, thats not bad.

No, that is very good in fact. Nice work brother.

[Hush]

Thanks man, its just such a fun lift that i know i just own, so im excited I have gotten so high on it, and the endorphin release i get after it is just astronomical! I feel like im comming! To Quote the most symetrical man!

[Colossal Spoons]

Coming day and night!

[Scar Predator]

I set off little atom bombs in my arms and Back today! also got a new PR of 380 dl, for a guy who weighs about 180, thats not bad.

I envy you. I often the miss the days when I could go into the gym, load up the bar until it was bending to do DLs, squats, etc..and not have to worry about missing work if I injured myself.:cwink:

[Scarlet spidey]

I've hit a brick wall with my diet.:\
I'm gonna have to adjust things again I guess.

[ShadowBoxing]

Just watched MADE "I want to be a Bodybuilder" episode a while back because a friend had told me they did one, and I had seen some rumblings about it on this site. Anyways, when I saw PUMP and Anna were involved I was colored interested and had to watch it. Needless to say I was kind of disappointed...

Yes, the kid was a b*tch in no uncertain terms and that never really changed. Also he's about a year away from coming out of the closet, and those "girlfriends" he's been crushing on won't be the least bit surprised. The way he gawked at Pump the first time he stepped out onstage just looked like he was having his own private sexual fantasy.

Though I think MTV is really to blame for this turkey of an episode. Usually MADE is quirky and fun. Getting kids to throw away their action figures, teaching them social skills and making new friends. The episodes usually feature very realistic goals that can be reached through completely immersing the subject into the training. Even the athletic goals before seemed reachable for the contestants.

This time around I think MTV kind of had some misconceptions going into it. First of all PUMP's training was dead on, it's just that eight weeks is considered the "drop dead" period for contest prep. Drop dead implies that you have a sufficient amount of muscle mass that you can literally do a precontest prep in the quickest and most painful way possible. While other people might have been traing for sixteen weeks, you're going to basically cram that into an eight week intense training and diet regime. This is usually reserved for advanced Bodybuilders who have to do dozens of shows a year and have limited time to bulk up inbetween. Hence the bulk up until about eight of seven weeks out and then cut like madmen.

So basically you have a muscle-less wimp trying to cut and bulk in the period of eight weeks. He might as well have walked onto the stage the next week, rather than putting himself through the pointless eight week dog and pony show.

MTV Made is usually decently dramatic in it's make-overs, and this was not one of them. I can't help but think after covering all these celebs who pack on pounds of "muscle" for roles in movies MTV thought there would actually be progress. How could they believe this kid was somehow going to show any results without A) steroids B) a training period of a year or more C) constant, 24-hour supervision (because he was obviously cheating on his diet) and D) enough time and money to devout to pre-cooking and preparing all his meals unless they didn't have some massive misconceptions about the sport. I truly think they did.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Question:

Is it sometimes better to just save your work out for the next day, if you know you can't get the protein in within the 20-min-window after working out?

I've been getting smaller and I don't know why. I was gaining lots in the summer. The only difference I can think of is that I had protein bars ready for right after I worked out. How important is the 20 min window?

[ShadowBoxing]

Well, it is important, but if your getting sufficient protein throughout the day the effect of missing it is not as bad as slouching until the next day. Gains will dwindle as time goes by and if your are overtraining or if your training is becoming too routine then your progress may in fact reverse it's trend. If there is no difference between your training today and what you were doing say sixth or seven months ago, that is probably the root of the problem. When you don't randomize your training a little and attack things from different angles you can seriously impair your gains and even lose some of what you have.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

I do lots of exercises at the gym though. Im not sure how to randomize it. Prolly just focus on the exercises I feel the most intensity on?

Also yeh its confirmed. Im in the steps to becoming a typical gym jock. Today at the park I tried my one arm pull ups and now I cant even get one. I did no other bicep exercises today so I can't say it's because I wore out my biceps. I hadnt been going to the park in like 2 months. Thats the place where I train pullups and other bodyweight exercises. So it makes sense as to why I lost it, but it doesnt make it any easier to take.

[Hush]

What if i just swapped the days I worked out like just switched them. You know Mondays are now fridays and such, would that have a nice affect?

[ShadowBoxing]

I do lots of exercises at the gym though. Im not sure how to randomize it. Prolly just focus on the exercises I feel the most intensity on?
I wouldn't focus on anything in particular, unless you find yourself making consistent gains on it. The thing you should be doing is varying up your workout in both sets, reps and exercises. You won't get anywhere doing the same routine everytime you go in. Randomizing is an artform of sorts, because you really have to listen to your body and try to understand what it needs and when it needs it. While it's good to have some sort of a loose structural framework, you need to make sure any muscle you train is done so to absolute failure and that you aren't emphasizing the same muscle groups every time you train. If you feel your upper chest is being neglected, train your upper chest hard one week, then maybe work more on your lower or middle chest the next.
Also yeh its confirmed. Im in the steps to becoming a typical gym jock. Today at the park I tried my one arm pull ups and now I cant even get one. I did no other bicep exercises today so I can't say it's because I wore out my biceps. I hadnt been going to the park in like 2 months. Thats the place where I train pullups and other bodyweight exercises. So it makes sense as to why I lost it, but it doesnt make it any easier to take.
I would say while avoiding an exercise can make you weaker on it, if you are doing exercises which aid or are similar to a movement there shouldn't be much lost in the long run. As I say, this all sounds suspiciously like overtraining/overtaxing to me. You should NOT reserve your bodyweight exercises for outside the gym, they can nicely fit in with any weight training or gym training program. Workouts should last an hour, and maybe a half hour or so on cardio. There shouldn't be a whole lot of supplementary work on top of them.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

yeah that is harder. shocking the body and doing what it isnt used to. i often try to listen to my body but at times everything just seems to have the same great intensity. ive tried upping the weight so that i cant complete a full 6 or 8 set but i dont think thats made any gains and in fact prolly just weakens the morale. hm and how long do you guys wait in between sets? til you're ready or the same time in between each set (meaning even when you're semi-worn out towards the middle of the work out, you still wait only 2 or 3 minutues.)

thats the thing at the gym i do pull ups, but not at the intensity i used to. summer of 2007 when i could get multiple one arm pullups i was going to the park, the pull up place, three times a week. i didnt realize how good that was for me and it makes sense as to why i got one arm pullups the second day i tried it. as the years went down i didnt train pullups as much or as intensively so it makes sense as to why i went from: multiple pullups, to only one, then to no one-arm pullups. my main was these supplementary exercises with weight stuff thrown in. but this past year i got free access to the gym and the priorities changed.

i worked biceps 2 days before my failed attempt at the one arms. the day before though they werent even sore. so i dont think itd be overtaxing. next chance i get to try one arms will be friday.

[mrvlknight21]

Be snikt-When you talk about 1 arm pullups, what do you mean exactly? Describe it for me (hand position).

[Be Snikt-Happy]

hands not grabbing on to each other like the rest of the world does em. i didnt pick them up from one day of training. i know you were just asking but i get more tired of when people ask "you can do them without grabbing the other arm?" than actually doing the one arm pullups to show them.

hand positions facing towards and away (chin ups / pull ups.) doesnt matter now, since i can barely do one. im gunna rest up and see if it was a bad day or if i really did lose em.

[Jack O Lantern]

Does anyone know how effective Darin Steen's 12 week programme is? I'm not navie enough to think that I'll come out of it ripped to shreds but would still like to know if it's worth following.

[Colossal Spoons]

Never heard of it man

[ShadowBoxing]

Me neither. Sounds like bull.

[NotFadeAway]

Everyone, I have a question.

The typical reaction to anything white, or "refined, is that it's bad for you and it makes losing weight harder. Well, I love to run, and I'm trying to shed about ten pounds as well as become a better runner. Well, long story short, I hate whole wheat pasta and truly believe that anyone who likes it is lying to themselves. And I've read many articles that place white pasta up with white bread. But I have also been told that, due to the semolina in the duram wheat used to make all pasta, that although refined, pasta still breaks down slower due to the semolina and therefor has a low Glycemix Index, which prevents it from spiking your insulin.

So to me, that says that the only thing whole wheat pasta has on white pasta is that there is more fiber so those with less will power won't be as hungry. And a few extra nutrients, which I will trade for taste. Someone said the difference between whole pasta and refined pasta is the difference between an apple with it's skin and a skinless apple, just because the extra nutrients of the skin have been stripped away does not make the rest of the apple bad for you.

Thoughts.....feedback....please. This weekend is a cheat weekend so I have two days to figure this out.

[Lunar_Wolf]

Going for a cycle soon. Love my new bike.

[NotFadeAway]

Going for a cycle soon. Love my new bike.

I'm an avid runner, but I have made myself a promise to try cycling soon, atleast come summer.

[Colossal Spoons]

Everyone, I have a question.

The typical reaction to anything white, or "refined, is that it's bad for you and it makes losing weight harder. Well, I love to run, and I'm trying to shed about ten pounds as well as become a better runner. Well, long story short, I hate whole wheat pasta and truly believe that anyone who likes it is lying to themselves. And I've read many articles that place white pasta up with white bread. But I have also been told that, due to the semolina in the duram wheat used to make all pasta, that although refined, pasta still breaks down slower due to the semolina and therefor has a low Glycemix Index, which prevents it from spiking your insulin.

So to me, that says that the only thing whole wheat pasta has on white pasta is that there is more fiber so those with less will power won't be as hungry. And a few extra nutrients, which I will trade for taste. Someone said the difference between whole pasta and refined pasta is the difference between an apple with it's skin and a skinless apple, just because the extra nutrients of the skin have been stripped away does not make the rest of the apple bad for you.

Thoughts.....feedback....please. This weekend is a cheat weekend so I have two days to figure this out.

I've been doing a heap of reading on the benefits of whole wheat vs white carbs. If you really can't stomach the taste of WW pasta, then you've got no choice but to eat the white. It's not as horrible for you as it sounds.

[mrvlknight21]

I like whole wheat pasta just fine. Tastes just like regular pasta to me.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, yeah I think it's fine too.

[Hush]

Whole wheats food always taste very good!

[NotFadeAway]

Yea. but thats not the point. The point is, what makes whole wheat so much better for you if the friggin duram wheat and semolina prevents insulin from spiking regardless of being whole wheat or white?

And I mean besides the fiber keeping those who lack willpower full....

[Colossal Spoons]

The whole wheat is much less refined and processed. As a general rule; less processed = better. You'll still get energy from your white pasta so go ahead and eat it.

[NotFadeAway]

Yes, but I would like for someone to explain to me how being processed takes a food that is great for you and makes it bad for you. I can see how it takes away nutrients, but, how does that make a food fattening?

It;s like the apple analogy. An apple with it's skin has more nutrients than an apple without skin, but that wouldn't make a skinless apple bad for you. So how does stripping away a few nutrients and some fiber make white pasta bad?