The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[Colossal Spoons]

Not "bad" for you. Just not as good. Nobody ever said white rice/pasta was fattening lol.

[NotFadeAway]

Not "bad" for you. Just not as good. Nobody ever said white rice/pasta was fattening lol.

Plenty of people act like it is.

[Colossal Spoons]

Lots of broscience in the world. I thought it was the devil before doing homework on it(spend a lot of my workday reading up on nutrition lol).

[Hush]

I amd going to work out in about five minutes and I must say that its going to be the first time back on creatine for about 10 weeks. Should be fun.

[mrvlknight21]

Alright guys, I finally made that burpee tutorial video.
This is a 5 minute basic info on the what, where, why and how of the burpee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t34-83meTe8

[Colossal Spoons]

Nice, I'll take a look when I get home from work :up:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

do you guys think 10 extra pounds and weakened legs can cause shin splints?

last year i had surgery on my foot and lost a lot of power in both my legs. i noticed a loss of mass in my legs. at the same time i was working out my upper body and ended up gaining 10 pounds of muscle.

do you think thats enough to start to cause shin splits? whenever i run i dont feel the pain in my foot, its in my shins and that never used to happen before.

[SonikDeath]

What do you guys think about doing crunches on a hardwood floor, is it ok to do it or should i get some sort of exercise mat or something ?

Thanks. :D

[mrvlknight21]

What do you guys think about doing crunches on a hardwood floor, is it ok to do it or should i get some sort of exercise mat or something ?

Thanks. :D

It should be fine, but if you arent comfortable, then get a mat.
Outside on the grass is my favorite place for that type of thing.

[AndThePickles]

What do you guys think about doing crunches on a hardwood floor, is it ok to do it or should i get some sort of exercise mat or something ?

Thanks. :D

I've done it before, and I bruised the skin where the bones of my spine hit the hard floor. It was very uncomfortable. I use a yoga floor mat...they're only about $20 at most, and you can roll them up and keep them in a corner. Or, you can also do crunches on a stability ball...I find it works all of the abdominal muscles better, personally.

Speaking of which, I'd used one of those balls at the gym plenty of times, but I just bought one for at-home use, and I LOVE it! Really good for bridges that target glutes and hammies :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

It should be fine, but if you arent comfortable, then get a mat.
Outside on the grass is my favorite place for that type of thing.

Spoken like a true forest animal, hahaha

[AndThePickles]

His fur must keep him warm doing those outside in the winter :csad:

[mrvlknight21]

His fur must keep him warm doing those outside in the winter :csad:

Maybe....but luckily it doesnt get too cold here-Georgia, ya know.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

you should do a youtube vid for your favorite exercise.

also that one favorited vid you have with the 23 yr old guy, damn he did some crazy stuff. i can definitely say he's strong than me with those exercises.


(what are those exercises called? the ones that invovle body weight? the general term for push ups, pull ups, climbing, etc... is that "isometrics")?

[Colossal Spoons]

You know, I don't think I have a fav exercise. I thin rowing(cable, bot BB) is the exercise I never get tired of though. That and incline DB bench pressing.

[AndThePickles]

Maybe....but luckily it doesnt get too cold here-Georgia, ya know.

Haha, I forgot about your location. Lucky!

[mrvlknight21]

Be-snikt...are you referring to me? What kind of video do you suggest that I make?
Did you watch the burpee vid?

No, isometrics is when you push or pull against a stationary object, like a tree or wall.

Bodyweight exercises are generally referred to as callisthenics.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

yea it was good. im saying make vids for lesser known exercises, like your favorite one the spiderman pushups. add some variations that you thought of.


ah callisthenics thats the word im lookin for.


oh yea back to my question up there: ^ do you think 10 lbs of muscle and weakened legs can be a cause of why my shins hurt when i run now?

[mrvlknight21]

yea it was good. im saying make vids for lesser known exercises, like your favorite one the spiderman pushups. add some variations that you thought of.


ah callisthenics thats the word im lookin for.


oh yea back to my question up there: ^ do you think 10 lbs of muscle and weakened legs can be a cause of why my shins hurt when i run now?

Yeah I will probably make more videos when the mood strikes.

As far as the shin splints...I dont know. Those have always been a mystery to me. I have seen big guys run on concrete w/ no problems and I have seen thin good who run well get them. I couldnt tell you for sure, but your situation is a possibility.

[Colossal Spoons]

Watched that burpee vid. Devil, you're a good jumper :D

[Hush]

I watched it too, even though I know how to do burpee's.

[mrvlknight21]

Watched that burpee vid. Devil, you're a good jumper :D

??:huh::huh:

I guess that was a joke? I really wasnt jumping very high.....

[mrvlknight21]

Did you guys think it was informative?

I get a bunch of questions about burpees from time to time. I was hoping to cover them all (how many? how fast? how do you do it? etc etc).

[Hush]

Yeah you did a good job, I would say that it is very informative and pretty good picture quality for youtube.

[Colossal Spoons]

??:huh::huh:

I guess that was a joke? I really wasnt jumping very high.....

No no, your jumps were very graceful and "froglike"

[Hush]

LOL.......froglike. Thats awesome man!

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm pretty sure I just ran into my future self in the gym just now lol. He was older and bigger than me and his dreads were longer than mine.



brb, building a time machine

[JStorm]

Alright guys, I finally made that burpee tutorial video.
This is a 5 minute basic info on the what, where, why and how of the burpee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t34-83meTe8

Now to the Y, for a comedy piece. :up:

Burpees 1101: Do work.
Burpees 1102: While Soccer Mom's Watch.

And for the sophomore class:

Burpees 2112: Douchebags Beware.

[mrvlknight21]

Now to the Y, for a comedy piece. :up:

Burpees 1101: Do work.
Burpees 1102: While Soccer Mom's Watch.

And for the sophomore class:

Burpees 2112: Douchebags Beware.

Bout time you showed up fo.

[JStorm]

Bout time you showed up fo.

"I can do 20 burpees, in a minute, fo."

"I know, fo."

[Hush]

I see the woman today and I'm thinking of throwing in a set of bench on my arms and back day just to pump it up a bit. Its gonna be a good lifting day.

[Majic Walrus]

I've decided I'm qualified just enough to post in this thread now. Before I was simply working on becoming halfway fit but while my routines may seem pretty light to some people I know that I'm pushing myself.

Yesterday I did a combination of PT style in place marching with 2 sets of 10 jumping jacks, 2 sets of 10 push ups, 2 sets of 10 squats, 2 sets of 20 sit ups, and then we followed that up by a 2 mile quick jog.

So my question is this: I'm feeling the burn and I'm pretty tired now how often should I be doing this type of cardio intensive work out on a weekly basis?

[mrvlknight21]

I've decided I'm qualified just enough to post in this thread now. Before I was simply working on becoming halfway fit but while my routines may seem pretty light to some people I know that I'm pushing myself.

Yesterday I did a combination of PT style in place marching with 2 sets of 10 jumping jacks, 2 sets of 10 push ups, 2 sets of 10 squats, 2 sets of 20 sit ups, and then we followed that up by a 2 mile quick jog.

So my question is this: I'm feeling the burn and I'm pretty tired now how often should I be doing this type of cardio intensive work out on a weekly basis?

By weekly, do you mean 1 time per week? Because the routine you gave could be done everyday (of course it may be pointless, depending on your goals).

So, I guess that leads to the question-what are your goals?

[Majic Walrus]

By weekly, do you mean 1 time per week? Because the routine you gave could be done everyday (of course it may be pointless, depending on your goals).

So, I guess that leads to the question-what are your goals?

I meant how many times should I do a cardio intensive routine a week. I plan on doing power building things on the alternating days.

I'm looking to become a police officer. I actually "qualify" now based on their physical exam, but I want to be able to excel. I'm just looking to get faster better and stronger than I was before.

[mrvlknight21]

I meant how many times should I do a cardio intensive routine a week. I plan on doing power building things on the alternating days.

I'm looking to become a police officer. I actually "qualify" now based on their physical exam, but I want to be able to excel. I'm just looking to get faster better and stronger than I was before.

Alright-very good to know and I am glad that you told me that. I am currently in law enforcement so I have an idea of what you are going to undertake.

A few questions-what are the current standards for their PT qualifications and what would be "excellent" score (your goals)? In other words-is it 2 min of pushups, 2 min of situps and a 2 mile run (that was my test)? Something similar? Something else?


How long before you apply/do the PT test?

I can tell you for a fact that Stew Smith's programs are 100% geared towards LE PT tests. I highly recommend them. Smith has books that you can purchase, but a vast majority can be found on the web for free.

[Colossal Spoons]

All this talk makes me wonder if I could outrun one of my local police officers lol. Your PT test seems to be geared towards endurance, what about speed though?

[mrvlknight21]

All this talk makes me wonder if I could outrun one of my local police officers lol. Your PT test seems to be geared towards endurance, what about speed though?

It is geared towards endurance and that is what I have a problem with personally. Fortunately, a lot of academies are going towards the crossfit regime, which encompasses all aspects of fitness.

The funny thing is, these fat cops catch young fast guys all the time. In fact, we hit a drug house yesterday and a 22 year old guy ran, he was probably 5 ' 10" and 160 lbs. The guy who caught him is in his 30s, 6' 2" and 250 pounds and just had knee surgery.

All that being said, I am 100% for improving police officer fitness by any means necessary. There are no PT tests once you come out of the academy (unless you are on a specialized team, like SWAT).

[Colossal Spoons]

You guys are like Jason Voorhees haha

[mrvlknight21]

On a side note, during training, we did run suicides and sprints. But we were TESTED on the endurance crap.
Our actual test is the exact same one the Army uses for their PT test.

[mrvlknight21]

You guys are like Jason Voorhees haha

Hey, Im not one of those fat cops!

Seriously, sometimes it is like you see in the movies. The cop will catch the runner bc he does something stupid like trip, run into a wall, etc. (so I guess that is like Jason Vorhees!).

[SonikDeath]

Hey guys,
Im trying to bulk up and ill be doing weights about 3 days a week with 3 days of cardio.

Im also drinking whey protein shakes to build muscle, but im also trying to lose some belly fat, should i go on a high carb or low carb diet if im trying to build muscle and lose belly fat ?

Thanks. :D

If you need more info, you can just PM me. :)

[Jack O Lantern]

Out of interest is it better to do cardioo first then weights or vice versa?

This is for fat lost

[ShadowBoxing]

Out of interest is it better to do cardioo first then weights or vice versa?

This is for fat lost
For fat loss I'd say either way is fine, however, if you want to maintain lean tissue I'd put weights first. Though basically the rule of thumb is wherever you are trying to advance the most; that is what should go first.

Not to get ahead of myself, but I do have one semi-rant to go on here. Most people try to create this duality between fat loss and muscle gain -- when in reality they want muscle gain. Now it depends on what your goal is, for example, someone trying to slim down because he's a distance runner might not be too discriminant about whether he losses muscle or how he looks afterward he sheds pounds because the overall purpose of what he is doing is to create a body more suitable for endurance exercise. Though most people for whom "losing fat" is a buzz word are really looking for that shredded, washboard ab look. This is a little bit of a misrepresentation fueled by TV and movies.

Underneath fat is not a beautifully sculpted physique, in fact what's underneath is probably grossly out of proportion, scrawny and soft. Most people who want to slim down want that very hard, grainy look you see in magazines. This is a little harder to achieve because in the fat cutting process you actually have to be able to put on and or maintain your pre-existing muscle tissue.

This means you have to train for hypertrophy and make sure to have a properly balanced diet capable of keeping your body at energy equilibrium. In other words you don't want too much of a surplus, and certainly never want a deficit of nutrients and energy fueling your body.

If this is your goal, I'd say weight train first and make your sessions both quick and intense. No more than one hour and no less than 30 minutes. Make sure you limit your rest periods to about 30 seconds to a minute depending and focus on every last rep and every last set until complete failure. Then hope on the treadmill and do some moderate steadystate. That should do you just fine.

[mrvlknight21]

For fat loss I'd say either way is fine, however, if you want to maintain lean tissue I'd put weights first. Though basically the rule of thumb is wherever you are trying to advance the most; that is what should go first.

Not to get ahead of myself, but I do have one semi-rant to go on here. Most people try to create this duality between fat loss and muscle gain -- when in reality they want muscle gain. Now it depends on what your goal is, for example, someone trying to slim down because he's a distance runner might not be too discriminant about whether he losses muscle or how he looks afterward he sheds pounds because the overall purpose of what he is doing is to create a body more suitable for endurance exercise. Though most people for whom "losing fat" is a buzz word are really looking for that shredded, washboard ab look. This is a little bit of a misrepresentation fueled by TV and movies.

Underneath fat is not a beautifully sculpted physique, in fact what's underneath is probably grossly out of proportion, scrawny and soft. Most people who want to slim down want that very hard, grainy look you see in magazines. This is a little harder to achieve because in the fat cutting process you actually have to be able to put on and or maintain your pre-existing muscle tissue.

This means you have to train for hypertrophy and make sure to have a properly balanced diet capable of keeping your body at energy equilibrium. In other words you don't want too much of a surplus, and certainly never want a deficit of nutrients and energy fueling your body.

If this is your goal, I'd say weight train first and make your sessions both quick and intense. No more than one hour and no less than 30 minutes. Make sure you limit your rest periods to about 30 seconds to a minute depending and focus on every last rep and every last set until complete failure. Then hope on the treadmill and do some moderate steadystate. That should do you just fine.

2nd all this.
Obviously SB knows what he is talking about anyway, he is a competitive bodybuilder after all.

[Jack O Lantern]

For fat loss I'd say either way is fine, however, if you want to maintain lean tissue I'd put weights first. Though basically the rule of thumb is wherever you are trying to advance the most; that is what should go first.

Not to get ahead of myself, but I do have one semi-rant to go on here. Most people try to create this duality between fat loss and muscle gain -- when in reality they want muscle gain. Now it depends on what your goal is, for example, someone trying to slim down because he's a distance runner might not be too discriminant about whether he losses muscle or how he looks afterward he sheds pounds because the overall purpose of what he is doing is to create a body more suitable for endurance exercise. Though most people for whom "losing fat" is a buzz word are really looking for that shredded, washboard ab look. This is a little bit of a misrepresentation fueled by TV and movies.

Underneath fat is not a beautifully sculpted physique, in fact what's underneath is probably grossly out of proportion, scrawny and soft. Most people who want to slim down want that very hard, grainy look you see in magazines. This is a little harder to achieve because in the fat cutting process you actually have to be able to put on and or maintain your pre-existing muscle tissue.

This means you have to train for hypertrophy and make sure to have a properly balanced diet capable of keeping your body at energy equilibrium. In other words you don't want too much of a surplus, and certainly never want a deficit of nutrients and energy fueling your body.

If this is your goal, I'd say weight train first and make your sessions both quick and intense. No more than one hour and no less than 30 minutes. Make sure you limit your rest periods to about 30 seconds to a minute depending and focus on every last rep and every last set until complete failure. Then hope on the treadmill and do some moderate steadystate. That should do you just fine.

The boby look I'm going for is really an issue at this moment - it will be- but right now I'm about 40 pounds overweught and my goal is to get to a healthy weight.

I was told that weight lifting first helps to lose weight quicker because by the time you get to the cardio you've started to burn mostly fat.

So does anyone know if there is a benefit in that scenario to lifting weights first?

[Be Snikt-Happy]

ive been working out all my life but this is my first year consistently going to a public gym. has anyone else noticed that as the weather gets better and beach time is coming, people just surge to the gym? and they cant stop flexing in the mirrors after only their second workout.

also the younger crowd tends to compete with you. maybe thats just my area. i was doing regular pullups and all of a sudden these kids started laughing and saying things like "psh i could do that." the kid could only do six. and even when i would space my pull ups out so it wasnt like we were going one after the other (competing) he would always go right after i went. it was weird. maybe i was just thinking he was cocky bc of his haircut, maybe it was just a coincidence.

[Jack O Lantern]

In my experience of going the last two years is that the gym is packed from January to March and then May to July.

[Colossal Spoons]

The sooner you start ignoring people like that, the better. They're present in most gyms.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

how do you go about doing that? its hard not to want to humble them youve got to admit.

[Colossal Spoons]

Nah man, go there and do what you gotta do. You shouldn't be focused on those kids anyway; leave your pride and ego in your gym bag :up:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

You almost say it in a way that appears that I have a bigger ego than the cockies at the gym. And I swear I've heard that quote in a fitness mag or a motivational poster.

[Colossal Spoons]

If you attempt to show up the "brahs" at the gym, then you'd be just like them :(

In my gym, all the ego-lifters usually have terrible form and look like idiots and all of us informed lifters know it. I don't get challenged in the gym very often, but it's almost always early teenagers who try to 1-up me. I'd be a fool for competing with people 10 years my junior lol.

[Mario_Galaxy]

Some dude came up to me after I was done a set once and told me something like,"Keep working and you'll get you some of these" and he proceeded to lift up his sleeve and show me his little water snakes lol. I just kinda laughed it off, but knowing how some guys are he was probably serious. :(

[Be Snikt-Happy]

a question: what do all you guys lift for? and be honest with yourself.

is it the strength, the look, the challenge, the girls, respect of other guys, health, etc?

if its a mix of those things, which reasons would make up the mix of why you guys lift?

[Colossal Spoons]

In order:

Size/The Look
Strength
Health

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Some dude came up to me after I was done a set once and told me something like,"Keep working and you'll get you some of these" and he proceeded to lift up his sleeve and show me his little water snakes lol. I just kinda laughed it off, but knowing how some guys are he was probably serious. :(

one of my friends, man he pulled a 90s move (no sarcasm on all the cheese.) he yelled "guys guys! do you have your tickets yet?" when we said no what for, he said "to the gun show!" and flexed his arms. he was already a cocky army guy and it just came off cheesy bc he really did have big muscles. if he was a skinny guy and did that, itd be funny and you could tell there was sarcasm. but with this friend, man he was older than us but needed to grow up a bit. i just clapped and said "ok ok." like when you praise a kid for using the big kids potty

[Aluchak]

I'm 14, I am 137 lbs, 5'8(BMI 20.5) and i want a Six Pack.
Whats the best way to get one for my age? I just want to get rid of the extra fat on my stomach.

[Mario_Galaxy]

Pretty much all the reasons you listed. But a lot of people (including myself at first) get mixed up in the smaller details of lifting. Getting HYOOGE is not going to get you instant girls. Some more glances from them? Sure but if it's all muscle and you're a total tool then that's about it. Getting stronger is a good goal, but I know some of my friends make it into a pissing contest. Same with who has the better body. Fact is there is always someone out there who is better. I'm not being arrogant when I say I have a six pack while some of my other friends don't. I still wouldn't mess with them because they're stronger than me. You have to be in it for the right reason IMO.

/preach

[ShadowBoxing]

In my experience of going the last two years is that the gym is packed from January to March and then May to July.
"New Year's Resolution" crowd.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm 14, I am 137 lbs, 5'8(BMI 20.5) and i want a Six Pack.
Whats the best way to get one for my age? I just want to get rid of the extra fat on my stomach.

In a year or 2, your metabolism should be at max levels so burning fat shouldn't be a prob unless people in your family are generally heavy. Just watch what you eat at this point, but no hardcore supplements or crazy exercises for you. you can do situps if you'd like :p

[ShadowBoxing]

The sooner you start ignoring people like that, the better. They're present in most gyms.
Those people don't bug me the most. The one's that bug me the most of the one's who hog machines and then dick around on them.

[Aluchak]

In a year or 2, your metabolism should be at max levels so burning fat shouldn't be a prob unless people in your family are generally heavy. Just watch what you eat at this point, but no hardcore supplements or crazy exercises for you. you can do situps if you'd like :p

Cool.
No one in my family is really chubby. My dad has a bit of a belly, but his knee is bad and he is in Film School so he doesn't have time for exercise at the moment. he was good at sports when he was a teen.

[AndThePickles]

Those people don't bug me the most. The one's that bug me the most of the one's who hog machines and then dick around on them.

I hate that, as well. I've seen many girls who will just sit on a machine and maybe do one rep every several minutes while talking to some guy who also isn't working out.

[Colossal Spoons]

Cool.
No one in my family is really chubby. My dad has a bit of a belly, but his knee is bad and he is in Film School so he doesn't have time for exercise at the moment. he was good at sports when he was a teen.

Then you should be fine. Just try not to eat like most kids your age. It'll make it a whole lot easier once you start lifting seriously :up:

[Jack O Lantern]

The one's that really get to me are the ones that do reps at such a high weight that they have to rest for five minutes, especially when they're on the last machine you're going to use.

It's hard to get angry at the NYR crowd because you don't know who will stick at it and who won't. One upon a time I was a member of that crowd but I've stuck at it.

[Aluchak]

Then you should be fine. Just try not to eat like most kids your age. It'll make it a whole lot easier once you start lifting seriously :up:

Don't worry. Instead of McDonalds for lunch everyday, i go to Subway.
Its a few blocks from my school so i run there and back every time.

[SonikDeath]

Is it a good idea to do weights and cardio in the same day ?

Friend told me it wasnt a good idea, would it be better to separate them, like 3 days of weights and 3 of cardio and a rest day, would that be better ?

Thanks. :D

[ShadowBoxing]

I hate that, as well. I've seen many girls who will just sit on a machine and maybe do one rep every several minutes while talking to some guy who also isn't working out.
"Yeah, ya'know baby, I can do like 300 pounds easy but I don't mess around with that kind of weight anymore. I used to be all bulked dieseled, now I just go for that tone".

[ShadowBoxing]

Is it a good idea to do weights and cardio in the same day ?

Friend told me it wasnt a good idea, would it be better to separate them, like 3 days of weights and 3 of cardio and a rest day, would that be better ?

Thanks. :D
You can do cardio during weight training days, just make sure it's not too intense. Though your friend's split there is pretty common and a lot of people get good results from it. I believe Jag does a 3 days weights, 3 days cardio.

[SonikDeath]

Is there anything i can do about my wrists, there small right now and it kinda hurts if i lift weights for a while ?

Are there any exercises i can do to get them stronger or something ?

Thanks. :D

[Be Snikt-Happy]

"Yeah, ya'know baby, I can do like 300 pounds easy but I don't mess around with that kind of weight anymore. I used to be all bulked dieseled, now I just go for that tone".

ha , i hate it when people talk about their glory days when they arent even 30 yet. they say things like "yeah i USED TO be able to do lift that much" or "yeah I USED to be that big." its just another way of trying to change peoples minds about you without a way of them verifying it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Lord! This guy at work is notorious for that. I have to hear "When I was your age, my arms were the size of your head" every week. I'm like dude, you're only 6 years older than me, nobody atrophies that fast :o

[Be Snikt-Happy]

ha i know. i dont think there was ever a time someone told me that and i believed them. a new kid at the college, who was very cocky in class anyway, said "Nah man. I'm not in the mood to work out. I used to be jacked. But now ever since I started drinking, it's all gone."

Im thinking "no you were not jacked." and the way he mentioned the drinking was like he was trying to flex that he drank while not of legal age. i remember when i was 19 ha. if he wasnt so cocky and trying to act tough all day in the first place i might have believed him. but it all fit the picture that he was jsut all talk, too well.

[SonikDeath]

What do you guys think of doing cardio before breakfast ?

Is it safe ?

Thanks. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

I never do fully fasted cardio, always at least a shake. That's just me though.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I have to at least eat an hour prior to doing a workout like cardio. Oatmeal with soymilk. Or a peanut butter sandwich and banana. Keeping it simple.

[JoeCat]

What do you guys think of doing cardio before breakfast ?

Is it safe ?

Thanks. :D

When you first wake up, your body is hungry and looking to eat. I usually have a protein shake as soon as I wake up. On days that I do morning cardio, by the time I start my morning routine, 15-20 mins has passed and I'm good to start my run. By the time I get back, shower, and finish my routine I'm ready for my first "solid" foods and second meal of the day.

(As I proof-read my post, I did notice how I sounded like Patrick Bateman lol)

[Golgo-13]

I have to have something on my stomach at least 30 mins prior to working out, or i get dizzy spells, and i have had instances where i have passed out fom trying to work out on 'empty'.

Just finished doing a heavy as i can, leg routine. :up:

[Lunar_Wolf]

So some questions on protein shakes and various other ones.

I'm eating 3 meals a day and I'm mostly doing cardio work(cycling) and weights twice a week. Do you recommend taking protein shakes? I take in good bit of protein anyway each day. And if I do start on protein shakes, would I be replacing a meal? I'm not looking to bulk up, but just loose weight and look somewhat in shape.

Is there any other shakes to replace meals with and would any of you recommend them?

[ShadowBoxing]

Lord! This guy at work is notorious for that. I have to hear "When I was your age, my arms were the size of your head" every week. I'm like dude, you're only 6 years older than me, nobody atrophies that fast :o
Someone was bragging to me about how big they were last summer and I said something to the effect of "Then what, you went on sabatical in a third world country...?"

[Golgo-13]

So some questions on protein shakes and various other ones.

I'm eating 3 meals a day and I'm mostly doing cardio work(cycling) and weights twice a week. Do you recommend taking protein shakes? I take in good bit of protein anyway each day. And if I do start on protein shakes, would I be replacing a meal? I'm not looking to bulk up, but just loose weight and look somewhat in shape.

Is there any other shakes to replace meals with and would any of you recommend them?

I usually drink a high calorie can of 'Ensure'.

[Colossal Spoons]

Sick lower back/cardio workout just now a.k.a shoveling snow lol

[Hush]

Getting ready to destroy my chest/tris today. One of the many reasons I work out in my basement is because I HATE the atmosphere in gyms. I wish i could go to Gold's in California, because i feel that is the only place you can actually get something accomplished with out having to deal with retarded people.

[Colossal Spoons]

The big Gold's in CA is sure to have a high concentration of douchebaggery

[Hush]

I said retarded, not douchebag. Oh and do you take a shake before your workouts??

[Colossal Spoons]

Yup, with a good simple carb source

[Red Cherry Lips]

Getting ready to destroy my chest/tris today. One of the many reasons I work out in my basement is because I HATE the atmosphere in gyms. I wish i could go to Gold's in California, because i feel that is the only place you can actually get something accomplished with out having to deal with retarded people.

Sorry to hear that, Hush. I enjoy the atmosphere at the local 24. Everyone, on the whole, keeps to themselves. Friendly, helpful staff as well. I've been to other gyms, in the past, that seriously discouraged me from going back for the reason you mentioned. Hope you get to Gold's, someday.

Btw, have a good workout on your chest/tris!

[Hush]

Yup, with a good simple carb source

Ok I take my Creatine then Protein with followed up by a shake after and a lunchmeat sandwhich.

[SonikDeath]

What brand of Whey protein do you guys take, if you take it ?

I was looking at the Ice Whey 100% Whey Protein Isolate, is ICE a good brand, does it matter which brand i choose ??

Thanks. :D

[Spider-Nerd]

a question: what do all you guys lift for? and be honest with yourself.

is it the strength, the look, the challenge, the girls, respect of other guys, health, etc?

if its a mix of those things, which reasons would make up the mix of why you guys lift?

Well, I lift for appearance since I wrestle and the look is a big part of it. That's only part of why I lift though. Since wrestling takes a big toll on the body I lift for injury prevention and general wellness too. I get more than enough cardio in the ring each week, though I might hit the treadmill at least once a week and run a mile.

My routine pretty much consists of compound lifts, followed by some ab work and yoga to finish off. I'm not a fan of the isolation stuff, I mostly stick with deadlifts, pull ups, bench, squats, military press, leg press, dips, and good mornings. I'll throw some curls in there every once in awhile if I feel the biceps aren't getting as much of a burn as they need but the pull ups pretty much take care of them.

Lifting is done via the push/pull method and bilaterally/unilaterally alternated from workout to workout. Rep range I change every 3 weeks or so; generally stay in the neighborhood of 6-12.

I'll say this, to anyone who's got back pain or joint pain. I'd recommend the best thing to break the vicious cycle of pain is good mornings for the lower back and yoga. Screw everyone who says it's for girls, yoga is amazing.

[Spider-Nerd]

What brand of Whey protein do you guys take, if you take it ?

I was looking at the Ice Whey 100% Whey Protein Isolate, is ICE a good brand, does it matter which brand i choose ??

Thanks. :D

I've found that syntha-6 tastes best when I blend it with fruit and yogurt but it's a little high in carbs for some people. I'm trying optima procomplex right now and I'm pretty satisfied with it. I never found regular optima why to be anything special, in fact I was more fond of regular gnc whey.

[Colossal Spoons]

What brand of Whey protein do you guys take, if you take it ?

I was looking at the Ice Whey 100% Whey Protein Isolate, is ICE a good brand, does it matter which brand i choose ??

Thanks. :D

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html

I've found that syntha-6 tastes best when I blend it with fruit and yogurt but it's a little high in carbs for some people. I'm trying optima procomplex right now and I'm pretty satisfied with it. I never found regular optima why to be anything special, in fact I was more fond of regular gnc whey.

I liked Syntha-6 as well. It's my #2 after Optimum Nutrition :up:

[SonikDeath]

I was doing some research and most people agree that Optimum Whey Protein seems to be the best, then you posted the link that says Optimum IS the best, a little funny thats all.

Thanks Spoons. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

I was doing some research and most people agree that Optimum Whey Protein seems to be the best, then you posted the link that says Optimum IS the best, a little funny thats all.

Thanks Spoons. :D

They've got a new protein out that's similar to BSN's Syntha-6 called Nitro Core. It can be taken at any time b/c it contains fast and slow digesting proteins :up:

[Spider-Nerd]

it seems the general consensus is that optima whey is the best. I accept that, yet I've never seen what's so great about it. I know that gaspari just put out a new protein and I'm planning on giving that a shot too. I will say this, stay away from nitro-tech. IT tastes horrid.

[Colossal Spoons]

ON Whey comes in 10lb bags for one lol. The Caramel Toffee Fudge flavor is easily the tastiest thing I've ever put in a shaker too.

Co-sign on the Nitro-Tech avoiding :up:

In order:

1. ON 100% Whey
2. BSN's Syntha-6
3. Cytosport's Muscle Milk(horrible g/scoop ration though)
4, MRI's Pro-NOS

[Hush]

I just buy what I can it all works the same. Some better than others but i have to resort to wal-mart brands for now.

[Spider-Nerd]

Yeah the 10lb bag is quite handy. I can honestly say that I can't complain about ON's taste either. I just never felt any returns on it. I'll have to give nitro core a test next month; one of the major highpoints for me with syntha-6 is both the fast and slow digesting proteins. I did see something new and intriguing from ON, oat's+whey.

[Spider-Nerd]

check the label,

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3336797


Look at that fiber! :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

I just buy what I can it all works the same. Some better than others but i have to resort to wal-mart brands for now.

Hey, as long as you're getting some protein :up:

Yeah the 10lb bag is quite handy. I can honestly say that I can't complain about ON's taste either. I just never felt any returns on it. I'll have to give nitro core a test next month; one of the major highpoints for me with syntha-6 is both the fast and slow digesting proteins. I did see something new and intriguing from ON, oat's+whey.

Oats&Whey is awesome(such an ON whore lol). Great for for thing in the morning or post workout. If it sells well, they'll make it in a 5lb tub. Good thing, cuz I'm gonna be done my 3lb tub soon :(

[Hush]

Yeah I compare labels when i have to buy off brands but i usually get the one with the least fat.

[Spider-Nerd]

Yeah I compare labels when i have to buy off brands but i usually get the one with the least fat.

don't be brainwashed. fat doesn't make you fat. too many calories make you fat. :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Take a glance at the sugar too

[Spider-Nerd]

Oats&Whey is awesome(such an ON whore lol). Great for for thing in the morning or post workout. If it sells well, they'll make it in a 5lb tub. Good thing, cuz I'm gonna be done my 3lb tub soon :(

Gonna pick it up tomorrow and give it a shot.

[Spider-Nerd]

spoons is right. Take a gander at the labels that all claim "healthy low fat food" in the grocery store. A bunch of them are loaded with sugar and bad carbs.

[Colossal Spoons]

How's the wrestling going by the way? I'm watchin RAW now :p

[Spider-Nerd]

ha, I just started it. Tivo'd it cause my brother wanted to watch 24. It's going really well. I hit a tough stride about a month ago when my back started bothering me, but some good mornings+yoga fixed that. I manage to train only once a week on saturday mornings and wrestle saturdays after that since law school takes up all my time, and then whatever time I have left goes to the gym. I'm probably gonna head to FCW in tampa next summer. That gives me a year to get my body in tip top shape. I'm 6'2 and at about 223 right now. I need another 10lbs of muscle so it's gonna be a rough year.

My meals are pretty much planned out the night before and I really try not to rely on supplements best I can since I prefer real food. Otherwise things are good:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Good stuff. You'll only be a few hours away from the TNA tapings when yo go to Tampa :up:

[Spider-Nerd]

yeah but TNA's not really the place to be. I'm not saying I'd turn an offer down, but the risk/reward return they ask from their performers is too high. plus I hate that six sided ring. I'm also not a fan of spotfests which aside from the older top guys (sting, angle, booker) is all they are. Even though the E is guilty of this too at times they're far better about it.

[Colossal Spoons]

Smart man haha. I can't even sit through the highlights of that show.

[Spider-Nerd]

besides, fans don't want to see what tna puts on. If they did TNA would be far more popular and not be broadcast in a soundstage where free tickets are given out. Fans still want to see good wrestling. I'm a firm believer that if someone like mr. perfect or ted dibiase sr. were to debut today the fans would be so into them because they want to see the wrestling with the act. That's what's missing...

[Hush]

Oh i check all the labels but i prefer to look for the fat that bothers me the most.

[Abstract]

I'm putting on weight :(

Since I moved back home with my parents I'm unmotivated as hell. I need to start running and hiit again. I'm still lifting but letting myself down with cardio big time.

[SonikDeath]

I have a bed with a hard sturdy mattress, i do ab exercises while lying on it and it seems to be working my abs just fine. Is it less effective because im doing them on a mattress, is it safe ?

I really dont want to do them on my hard wood floor. :)

Thanks. :D

[Hush]

Wow second page guys, this is insane. In anycase I really need to make my legs pay for not hurting today!

[amazingfantasy15]

Feels like my marathon training really turned a corner yesterday, ran 8 miles with little to no problems. Never imagined running 8 miles would actually feel kind of easy.

[mrvlknight21]

besides, fans don't want to see what tna puts on. If they did TNA would be far more popular and not be broadcast in a soundstage where free tickets are given out. Fans still want to see good wrestling. I'm a firm believer that if someone like mr. perfect or ted dibiase sr. were to debut today the fans would be so into them because they want to see the wrestling with the act. That's what's missing...

Interesting take.

My cousin does low level indy pro wrestling and I have helped out on a lot of levels as well (announcer, commentator, manager and even wrestled a few matches).
I got to work with and meet a few legends and stars-Greg Valentine, Viscera, Shark Boy, Johnny Ova, Tommy Rich and others.

I wish you good luck in your wrestling endeavors. Do you have a webpage or anything?

[mrvlknight21]

I have a bed with a hard sturdy mattress, i do ab exercises while lying on it and it seems to be working my abs just fine. Is it less effective because im doing them on a mattress, is it safe ?

I really dont want to do them on my hard wood floor. :)

Thanks. :D

I dont see a problem with it, just be sure that the mattress is really firm.

What about outside on the ground? (waits for Spoons' comment about me living in the woods).

[mrvlknight21]

Feels like my marathon training really turned a corner yesterday, ran 8 miles with little to no problems. Never imagined running 8 miles would actually feel kind of easy.

Thats dang good bro.
I have never run 8 miles in my life. I think the most I have run is 4.

[mrvlknight21]

ON Whey comes in 10lb bags for one lol. The Caramel Toffee Fudge flavor is easily the tastiest thing I've ever put in a shaker too.



Hey Spoons, I just used my last scoop of the ON Caramel Toffee Fudge yesterday. I appreciate the recommendation on it a while back-great taste!

I am now using something I cant find at most places. It is this:
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2845797

It has a mix of whey and caesin protein. I use the strawberry flavor and mix it w/ OJ or Sunny D.

[ShadowBoxing]

Making my 30,000 post here.

[Colossal Spoons]

Wow second page guys, this is insane.

Can't post from the gym! :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

I dont see a problem with it, just be sure that the mattress is really firm.

What about outside on the ground? (waits for Spoons' comment about me living in the woods).

I know you do crunches on rocks and stones deep in the forest :p

Hey Spoons, I just used my last scoop of the ON Caramel Toffee Fudge yesterday. I appreciate the recommendation on it a while back-great taste!

I am now using something I cant find at most places. It is this:
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2845797

It has a mix of whey and caesin protein. I use the strawberry flavor and mix it w/ OJ or Sunny D.

No prob dude. I've seen that Lean Mass Builder stuff before, never tried it though.

[mrvlknight21]

Making my 30,000 post here.

That is only fitting imo SB!

[mrvlknight21]

I know you do crunches on rocks and stones deep in the forest :p



No prob dude. I've seen that Lean Mass Builder stuff before, never tried it though.

I get my Sasquatch cousins to help me clear the rocks from an area, then use it.

I like the Lean Mass Builder, but it is expensive and as I said, I cant get it at bodybuilding.com!

[mrvlknight21]

check the label,

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3336797


Look at that fiber! :up:

Hmmmm...looks like a future (this week?) purchase for me!

[Red Cherry Lips]

Feels like my marathon training really turned a corner yesterday, ran 8 miles with little to no problems. Never imagined running 8 miles would actually feel kind of easy.

When is the marathon you're running, amazingfantasy15?

Keep up the great training! :up:


EDIT: Saw your post in the BL thread. :)

[ShadowBoxing]

So there is the trainer who has the hots for me, which is cool, because she's totally hot :up:

[Hush]

Go SB get that Hot trainer ass!

[ShadowBoxing]

Go SB get that Hot trainer ass!
Yeah, I mean it's just been this week, but she's been following me around a bit, coming up and talking to me when I cool down on the treadmill. I saw her come in with this guy last time I was there and when I got on the treadmill she totally ditched him and came over to hang with me...the only thing that bothers me is she reportedly had some real bad experience with her fiance', or at least that's what she says, and hasn't been laid in two years. She's been pretty up front with me about that recently, and I don't really know how to take that. I'll be happy to end her streak though:woot:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

sounds like the typical mixed up hot girl. that doesnt mean dont proceed. just be weary. and make sure her ex fiance isnt the type to stalk and shoot people in their sleep.

what number rating range would you give her?

[ShadowBoxing]

sounds like the typical mixed up hot girl. that doesnt mean dont proceed. just be weary. and make sure her ex fiance isnt the type to stalk and shoot people in their sleep.

what number rating range would you give her?
Well, her boobies are small, but a strong 9 because of her face and the rest of her body. If she had larger boobs she could easily be a model (of course I've only ever seen her in sports bras).

[Be Snikt-Happy]

ha you gotta imageshack.us one of her pics from myspace AFTER you do her. its always sex before facebook/myspace of course. gj man on just havin her like you, really breaks that comic fan stereotype

[ShadowBoxing]

ha you gotta imageshack.us one of her pics from myspace AFTER you do her. its always sex before facebook/myspace of course. gj man on just havin her like you, really breaks that comic fan stereotype
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most guys (and girls) in this thread break the comic fan stereotype. I mean look at Spoons, Mrvlknight and Golgo-13.

(Btw...I can't find her on Facebook)

[Colossal Spoons]

I get my Sasquatch cousins to help me clear the rocks from an area, then use it.


For a dollar, I'll shave your whole family :D

Yeah, I mean it's just been this week, but she's been following me around a bit, coming up and talking to me when I cool down on the treadmill. I saw her come in with this guy last time I was there and when I got on the treadmill she totally ditched him and came over to hang with me...the only thing that bothers me is she reportedly had some real bad experience with her fiance', or at least that's what she says, and hasn't been laid in two years. She's been pretty up front with me about that recently, and I don't really know how to take that. I'll be happy to end her streak though:woot:

Want us to rough him up, boss? :cmad:

/henchman

[Nightmare]

Good god, no sex for 2 years?

[AndThePickles]

Well, her boobies are small, but a strong 9 because of her face and the rest of her body. If she had larger boobs she could easily be a model (of course I've only ever seen her in sports bras).

Quite the opposite, most models have small boobies :oldrazz:

[ShadowBoxing]

Good god, no sex for 2 years?
I know, right:huh:
Quite the opposite, most models have small boobies :oldrazz:
Touche'

[theShape]

Question.

Would it be bad for me to work out my chest/tri's tonight after lifting last night but doing back/bicep? I'm kinda sore, and wanted to lift tonight so i could skip tomorrow, but does my body need to rest a day or something?

[Colossal Spoons]

Nah, you can do consecutive workouts. Go for it :up:

Just make sure you get enough rest days throughout the week.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most guys (and girls) in this thread break the comic fan stereotype. I mean look at Spoons, Mrvlknight and Golgo-13.

(Btw...I can't find her on Facebook)

I think that about most of the regulars in this thread as well, SB.

On a side note, I dont have facebook or myspace. But my wife does....:o

[ShadowBoxing]

Want us to rough him up, boss? :cmad:

/henchman
I think he's a non-issue now, I hope:csad:

[mrvlknight21]

for a dollar, i'll shave your whole family :d




/henchman

wtf???

[Colossal Spoons]

Sasquatches tend to be hairy :o

[Spider-Nerd]

Question.

Would it be bad for me to work out my chest/tri's tonight after lifting last night but doing back/bicep? I'm kinda sore, and wanted to lift tonight so i could skip tomorrow, but does my body need to rest a day or something?

Go for it. The human body (of course taking into account variables like age and previous training experience) is capable of ridiculous levels of adaptation. :up:

[Spider-Nerd]

Oh i check all the labels but i prefer to look for the fat that bothers me the most.

Fat = good. I love fat. I love all of it except for the trans ones :mad:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

(Btw...I can't find her on Facebook)

Nah after you get with her i meant. it was a sarcastic play on how things are these days, where you're more likely to get with a girl first and then alter get her facebook. than the other way around

[Spider-Nerd]

My current fav protein shake

some old fashioned oats(about 1/4 cup)

A table spoon and a half of plain yogurt made with whole milk.

2 scoops of ON procomplex vanilla.

1 whole banana

some grapes/half an apple/half a pear

half a grapefruit

about 1/4 to 1/2 cup OJ

add 3 ice cubes and blend = delicious.

[Colossal Spoons]

How many calories you think that is?

[Hush]

Yeah, I mean it's just been this week, but she's been following me around a bit, coming up and talking to me when I cool down on the treadmill. I saw her come in with this guy last time I was there and when I got on the treadmill she totally ditched him and came over to hang with me...the only thing that bothers me is she reportedly had some real bad experience with her fiance', or at least that's what she says, and hasn't been laid in two years. She's been pretty up front with me about that recently, and I don't really know how to take that. I'll be happy to end her streak though:woot:

You are in man, if she is ditching other guys to go to you, just ask her out to dinner, chicken maybe some sex, things will work out.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most guys (and girls) in this thread break the comic fan stereotype. I mean look at Spoons, Mrvlknight and Golgo-13.

(Btw...I can't find her on Facebook)

Yeah I would say we are the not the average geek in this thread. lol Which is awesome.

[Red Cherry Lips]

My current fav protein shake

some old fashioned oats(about 1/4 cup)

A table spoon and a half of plain yogurt made with whole milk.

2 scoops of ON procomplex vanilla.

1 whole banana

some grapes/half an apple/half a pear

half a grapefruit

about 1/4 to 1/2 cup OJ

add 3 ice cubes and blend = delicious.


Had to bookmark your recipe there. Making me hungry for a good shake.

[SonikDeath]

Ive been doing 3 days a week of weights and 3 days a week of cardio for about a week now and just needed some info.

Ive got skinny arms and a kinda fat stomach, also been watching what ive been eating, split my meals into 6 a day instead of 3 and eating more fruits and veggies and stuff. Calculator says i should be eating 1675 calories a day.

The question is, is it possible to build muscle on the arms and lose weight on the stomach at the same time ??

Thanks. :D

[Manic]

Ive been doing 3 days a week of weights and 3 days a week of cardio for about a week now and just needed some info.

Ive got skinny arms and a kinda fat stomach, also been watching what ive been eating, split my meals into 6 a day instead of 3 and eating more fruits and veggies and stuff. Calculator says i should be eating 1675 calories a day.

The question is, is it possible to build muscle on the arms and lose weight on the stomach at the same time ??

Thanks. :D
I would assume so. Losing fat is all about diet and cardio, and building muscle is about diet and lifting weights. Somewhere in the realm of your diet, there's a middle ground where you can make sure you're not consuming too many calories (especially empty calories like ice cream or sugary stuff) so you can lose the fat, and you can eat enough protein to build muscle.

[Colossal Spoons]

^Yup yup yup

[Spider-Nerd]

spoons, have you tried nitrocore 24? How's it hold over flavor and mixability wise?

[Colossal Spoons]

No sir, it's next on my "to try" list after my casein runs out.

[ShadowBoxing]

I better not find any "I'm at the gym working out" posts on Twitter now that I've joined, or I will be required to kill all of those people.

[Colossal Spoons]

I still have no idea what Twitter is. It sounds like a mass away-message community.

[Manic]

I still have no idea what Twitter is. It sounds like a mass away-message community.
Imagine blogs for people with A.D.D. Entries are no longer than 140 characters. I like to follow celebrities. Shaq posts some really random stuff, and I'm surprised at how many people care what Wil Wheaton from Star Trek has to say.
I better not find any "I'm at the gym working out" posts on Twitter now that I've joined, or I will be required to kill all of those people.
That's inconceivable. I always leave my phone in my locker. How is it even possible to text while working out?

[Hush]

I work out and I keep my phone next to me in my basement and my gf like to text me to see my numbers and stuff, its awesome. So i text her after sets.

[ShadowBoxing]

That's inconceivable. I always leave my phone in my locker. How is it even possible to text while working out?
Trust me, I've seen people it often. My friend Jenny talks on her cellphone sometimes on the eliptical, I kind of want to slap her when she does that. It destroys the sanctity of the gym.

[ShadowBoxing]

I work out and I keep my phone next to me in my basement and my gf like to text me to see my numbers and stuff, its awesome. So i text her after sets.
Please stop, I don't want to have to kill you.

[ShadowBoxing]

I'll say this once for the uninitiated: Working out requires MAXIMUM CONCENTRATION! and MINIMAL DISTRACTIONS! the moment either of these things is interrupted for any reason whatsoever you will diminish the quality of your workout completely.

[Colossal Spoons]

Preach!

[Hush]

Please stop, I don't want to have to kill you.

Just so I don't die. For the record though, im not in a Gym and i still manage to lift pretty virtuously. I still have concentration. I mean you can't DL without concentration.

I'll say this once for the uninitiated: Working out requires MAXIMUM CONCENTRATION! and MINIMAL DISTRACTIONS! the moment either of these things is interrupted for any reason whatsoever you will diminish the quality of your workout completely.

I understand Sensei.

[ShadowBoxing]

Just so I don't die. For the record though, im not in a Gym and i still manage to lift pretty virtuously. I still have concentration. I mean you can't DL without concentration.

I will let you live...for now :ninja:

[ShadowBoxing]

Preach!
I feel like Rodimus Prime trying to take up Jagimus Prime's mantle.

[AndThePickles]

I work out and I keep my phone next to me in my basement and my gf like to text me to see my numbers and stuff, its awesome. So i text her after sets.

Why not just wait until after you're completely done with your workout? :huh:

[Hush]

Why not just wait until after you're completely done with your workout? :huh:

Because i love her, i know i got you with that one.

[amazingfantasy15]

I'll say this once for the uninitiated: Working out requires MAXIMUM CONCENTRATION! and MINIMAL DISTRACTIONS! the moment either of these things is interrupted for any reason whatsoever you will diminish the quality of your workout completely.

I run my Saturday long runs with a group and most of us talk for most of the run for the sole purpose of distracting us from the length. Still think the quality of our workout is incredible. In fact, all my workouts I try to use a little distraction, usually just listening to music.

[AndThePickles]

Because i love her, i know i got you with that one.

I understand the love, I just don't understand how interrupting your workout with texts applies. I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just don't understand :csad: When I'm working out, I try to be as fully concentrated on what I'm doing as possible. If that's what works to help keep you motivated though, then that's cool :up:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

I'll say this once for the uninitiated: Working out requires MAXIMUM CONCENTRATION! and MINIMAL DISTRACTIONS! the moment either of these things is interrupted for any reason whatsoever you will diminish the quality of your workout completely.

ha haha no it doesnt! we just dont like people that sit on the machines for 10 mins at a time. right. also i dont know if you guys know anyone here that does it, but every gym has one guy who takes it "so seriously" because he has no other talent or hobby and he's not even that big or strong for his size. every gym also has its own loudest grunter.

[NotFadeAway]

A year and a half ago, I was 251lbs.......I am now 154lbs. I'd still like to lose another 5-10, but as I have said, I want to focus on running as well, so I have been living off of pasta topped with plain tomato sauce and mushrooms with fruits such as banana's, apples, oranges, and strawberries.......is that a good idea?

[Mario_Galaxy]

JESUS! :eek: That's incredible man. 100 pounds. Damn. I was also at 250 and was down to 160 for a while, but I realized I wasn't getting enough calories and now I'm up to 180ish. How tall are you?

[NotFadeAway]

JESUS! :eek: That's incredible man. 100 pounds. Damn. I was also at 250 and was down to 160 for a while, but I realized I wasn't getting enough calories and now I'm up to 180ish. How tall are you?

Losing 70 or 80LBS is awesome as well.

I'm 5'7, but I naturally have a broad frame, which is why running is more important to me than heavy lifting because I naturally have the frame, I just had to tone it up with running and machine weights.

[amazingfantasy15]

A year and a half ago, I was 251lbs.......I am now 154lbs. I'd still like to lose another 5-10, but as I have said, I want to focus on running as well, so I have been living off of pasta topped with plain tomato sauce and mushrooms with fruits such as banana's, apples, oranges, and strawberries.......is that a good idea?

Carbs are good before a run, but within 45-60 min. after a run you should be eating more protein than carbs. Also how long are you running, if it's around 3-5 miles probably don't need to worry about the carbs beforehand.

[NotFadeAway]

Carbs are good before a run, but within 45-60 min. after a run you should be eating more protein than carbs. Also how long are you running, if it's around 3-5 miles probably don't need to worry about the carbs beforehand.


I've upped my runs to 5-7 miles, Monday through Friday.

[amazingfantasy15]

I've upped my runs to 5-7 miles, Monday through Friday.

Don't run every day, that's a perfect way to injure yourself, through overrunning/training. I run Tuesday-Thursday, Saturday and Sunday is (supposed) to be crosstraining, any exercise beside just running and this is training for a marathon. That is a good amount of mileage though, so yeah carb-rich food before, protein-rich food after, also hydration is key.

[Spider-Nerd]

Interesting take.

My cousin does low level indy pro wrestling and I have helped out on a lot of levels as well (announcer, commentator, manager and even wrestled a few matches).
I got to work with and meet a few legends and stars-Greg Valentine, Viscera, Shark Boy, Johnny Ova, Tommy Rich and others.

I wish you good luck in your wrestling endeavors. Do you have a webpage or anything?

Nah, it's not like it was even 7 years ago. WWE doesn't scout indy shows anymore. Why would they when they have their own developmental territory? The way to do it nowadays is to polish up and when you're ready head down to FCW and take a shot. :up:

[NotFadeAway]

Don't run every day, that's a perfect way to injure yourself, through overrunning/training. I run Tuesday-Thursday, Saturday and Sunday is (supposed) to be crosstraining, any exercise beside just running and this is training for a marathon. That is a good amount of mileage though, so yeah carb-rich food before, protein-rich food after, also hydration is key.

I do plan on breaking up my runs next week, I figure Mon-Wed-Fri running, Teus-Thur-Sat lifting, and sunday off.

My thing with the nutrition is, I honestly don't like any kind of meat other than beef, it just does not appeal to me. And I hate whole grains, there too chewy. I don't mind eating white pasta because I have the willpower to not stuff my face.

[mrvlknight21]

Nah, it's not like it was even 7 years ago. WWE doesn't scout indy shows anymore. Why would they when they have their own developmental territory? The way to do it nowadays is to polish up and when you're ready head down to FCW and take a shot. :up:

Good deal.
I nor my cousin have any ambitions of being pro wrestlers.
But, it was fun to be involved with it (in nearly every aspect) and meet a few of the old and current stars.

Speaking of that WWE is in town here tomorrow night for a house show (Smackdown group).

[AndThePickles]

Hey Devil, I just bought a pair of Asics! :oldrazz:

[Hush]

Just had a work out that even Zeus himself would be proud of, made my arms feel heavier than steel!

[mrvlknight21]

Hey Devil, I just bought a pair of Asics! :oldrazz:

Awesome! You that I approve!! (your feet will as well).

Which ones??

[AndThePickles]

Awesome! You that I approve!! (your feet will as well).

Which ones??

GEL-Oberon running ones. They're SO comfortable. I'm not very "hip" on what's new with that brand, but I needed new shoes and saw that these were on sale, and I've always heard great things about the foot support they offer. I've always gotten Nikes, for the most part, but I'm very pleased with the Asics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/geloberon.jpg

[Be Snikt-Happy]

double post

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Say you naturally have a small chest or small shoulders or whatever muscle group is naturally small for you, but the other muscle groups are big at the end of your bulking phase and you want to cut. Is there a way to keep one muscle group the same size, while cuttin and having the rest reduce a bit? Like this:

Mon - Workout biceps, get good protein and food
Tues - Eat lots of protein and calories to supply the biceps with recovery
Wed - Same as Tues then...
Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun - Lots of Cardio, losing weight stuff etc.

Meaning can you keep growing one muscle group, but then do cardio after that muscle group has healed to lose the body fat?

[mrvlknight21]

GEL-Oberon running ones. They're SO comfortable. I'm not very "hip" on what's new with that brand, but I needed new shoes and saw that these were on sale, and I've always heard great things about the foot support they offer. I've always gotten Nikes, for the most part, but I'm very pleased with the Asics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/geloberon.jpg


Very good. I think you will be very pleased and you will notice that they are much better than the Nikes.

[Nightmare]

I've upped my runs to 5-7 miles, Monday through Friday.

Damn, how long does that take per day?

[NotFadeAway]

Damn, how long does that take per day?

All depends on how fast I run.....I've done five in 40mins and 7 in 58mins.

[Red Cherry Lips]

GEL-Oberon running ones. They're SO comfortable. I'm not very "hip" on what's new with that brand, but I needed new shoes and saw that these were on sale, and I've always heard great things about the foot support they offer. I've always gotten Nikes, for the most part, but I'm very pleased with the Asics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/pinkdaydreams/geloberon.jpg

Pickles, I was the same. Did Nikes but am now all Asics. I wore them in the last marathon I ran back in 2004. They are cooooomfy. And even better on sale. :up:

[Red Cherry Lips]

Ever have those days when you're too damn tired after work to do anything? Yesterday was one of them and I didn't think I had it in me to work out. It always amazes me when I get to the gym and just start doing my weights and/or cardio I feel infinitely better after that hour workout. Best pick-me-up ever. :)

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, once you start doing it(usually), you fly right through it :up:

[michephantom]

I've started doing weights semi-regularly and I'm worried about strainging/hurting my wrists and lower back. I work at a school for special kids where I have to lift kids all day (they can get heavy) and sometimes I've hurt my lower back and wrists. I'm afraid of making it worse at the gym.

Any hints? I use machines, not free weights.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Yeah, once you start doing it(usually), you fly right through it :up:

The only time I ever had a miserable workout all the way was right after I had the stomach flu. My stomach was still a little queasy and a friend encouraged me to go workout to make it go away. I never felt so weak doing the rowing machine. It was this awful slow feeling. :csad:

After a good nights sleep it really did the trick, though. Like I never was sick. :)

I've started doing weights semi-regularly and I'm worried about strainging/hurting my wrists and lower back. I work at a school for special kids where I have to lift kids all day (they can get heavy) and sometimes I've hurt my lower back and wrists. I'm afraid of making it worse at the gym.

Any hints? I use machines, not free weights.


Personally, I use free weights mostly because I was told it forces one to balance and control the weights versus weights with guides (cables). Since using weights I feel my wrists and lower back are stronger, actually.

I guess it depends where you're at physically to determine how much weights you ought to do and so forth. So not to strain yourself. Hopefully, one of the experts here can give some advice to you. I'm still a newbie in the gym department and can only speak from my limited experience.

Besides gaining strength I think you'll have more stamina as well as a result. Especially, when lifting kids all day.

[Manic]

I tell you, the last thing I wanted to do the last time I was recovering from the stomach flu was work out. I waited until I was completely "regular" before I even started walking fast at work.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I tell you, the last thing I wanted to do the last time I was recovering from the stomach flu was work out. I waited until I was completely "regular" before I even started walking fast at work.

How long does it take you to walk to work? I used to do it but I prefer to sleep in. It took me 45 to 60 minutes to go a little over 2 miles, I believe is the distance.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

elusive obvious:


after two months of wanting to add weights to pullups, my main exercise, i finally figured out an idea on how to do that. my gym doesnt have those weight belts. and i have some weights at home i hold in between my legs when i do dips...but the only pullup utensil in the house is a door and thats not offering proper form and weight distribution.


i do my pullups at the park.


i have a backpack. i can just run/ walk to the park from my house with a 25 lb dumbell in there (nothing compared to my old high school backpack lol) and do the pullups or dips there. itd be odd but whatever. ill post back to see if it works

[NotFadeAway]

Does anyone find lean turkey to taste better than lean chicken? And can lean meats even give you the energy to run everyday?

[mrvlknight21]

elusive obvious:


after two months of wanting to add weights to pullups, my main exercise, i finally figured out an idea on how to do that. my gym doesnt have those weight belts. and i have some weights at home i hold in between my legs when i do dips...but the only pullup utensil in the house is a door and thats not offering proper form and weight distribution.


i do my pullups at the park.


i have a backpack. i can just run/ walk to the park from my house with a 25 lb dumbell in there (nothing compared to my old high school backpack lol) and do the pullups or dips there. itd be odd but whatever. ill post back to see if it works


Yeah, I told you to try that one, it works just fine.
I have done it despite having a dip belt and a weight vest.

Remember if you put a weight plate or dumbbell in there (weight plate would be better), try to fill the backpack with towels and all to prevent it from sliding around on you, if you use it for other moves like pushups and all.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

i wont do that more than once a month. it kills my back. maybe if i can get a ride to the park first

[amazingfantasy15]

Week 10 of marathon training down, did 16 miles for the long run this week. Most of the way back was in rain/freezing rain and a nasty wind right in my face. Felt so great to finish the run, especially after 12 of the 21 people in my pace group dropped out early and took cabs back. Everyone that stayed knew we'd be kicking ourselves all day if we didn't finish, so we stuck it out. This weekend was really the first time I felt fully confident I'll be able to run the full marathon, if I could survive that run in those conditions, there's nothing that'll stop me.

[Colossal Spoons]

My friend's dad told me I was looking "healthy" this weekend haha

[AndThePickles]

Very good. I think you will be very pleased and you will notice that they are much better than the Nikes.

Took my first run/walk in them today. My feet hurt a bit afterwards because I'm breaking them in, but wow, what a difference. One of the things I hate about running is how I can feel jarring through my feet from the pavement. That didn't occur with these shoes :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

I wish I had pictures of my friend Jenny from this weekend. She's competing it figure this spring and she looked awesome. Way ahead in her contest prep.

[Red Cherry Lips]

I wish I had pictures of my friend Jenny from this weekend. She's competing it figure this spring and she looked awesome. Way ahead in her contest prep.

What's figure? I guess figure skating pops to my mind but I'm thinking you're referring to something else your friend is competing in.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Took my first run/walk in them today. My feet hurt a bit afterwards because I'm breaking them in, but wow, what a difference. One of the things I hate about running is how I can feel jarring through my feet from the pavement. That didn't occur with these shoes :up:

Great to hear the Asics are working out, Pickles! Yeah, the true test for shoes is how it feels on concrete pavement, especially. The worst thing to run on but difficult to avoid most of the time.

[Colossal Spoons]

Does anyone find lean turkey to taste better than lean chicken? And can lean meats even give you the energy to run everyday?

Can't believe I missed this. NOTHING tastes better than chicken :cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

Took my first run/walk in them today. My feet hurt a bit afterwards because I'm breaking them in, but wow, what a difference. One of the things I hate about running is how I can feel jarring through my feet from the pavement. That didn't occur with these shoes :up:

Awesome!
You may also want to look into a different running technique, like pose or chi to prevent that jarring and injuries.

[ShadowBoxing]

What's figure? I guess figure skating pops to my mind but I'm thinking you're referring to something else your friend is competing in.
Figure girls
http://www.thefitexpo.com/images/figure_prejudging.jpg
Step below female Bodybuilding.

[Red Cherry Lips]

Figure girls
http://www.thefitexpo.com/images/figure_prejudging.jpg
Step below female Bodybuilding.

Thanks Shadow! I learned something new. Much success to Jenny and kudos to all the hard work she did! :yay:

[Hush]

Wow she must be good looking Shadow.

[ShadowBoxing]

Wow she must be good looking Shadow.
Don't get too excited, we're just friends, but she is very attractive for a figure model, who aren't necessarily all attractive. Figure isn't really based on anything but muscular development and they have a very narrow criteria which the girls have to meet. Last year, three friends of mine competed, this year it's only Jenny, which is unfortunate because the other girls had a lot of natural talent. Either way I'll be working backstage at the show this year (not competing) -- but I'll probably be back into it next year.

[ShadowBoxing]

She has a boyfriend, but the great thing about her is she likes to play match maker a lot, so if she's friendly with you she'll talk you up to other girls and introduce her single friends to you. I actually got the impression she's been the one who has been talking me up to this new trainer there...but I can't be sure.

[Hush]

Well I mean I was just saying the girls that pic are good looking so im sure your friend is. lol I have never heard of figure modeling but it sounds interesting.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

SB is this the same girl you said was a 9?


Anyway, back to my crazy question: During a cutting phase, is there a way to workout one muscle group one day, the next day continue to get good protein and rest, the day after that do the same until the muscle reaches full recovery, and then the rest of the week just do cardio to cut? (i.e 1 day work out muscle, 2 days of proper food and rest, 4 days cardio?)

I ask this because what if one of your muscle groups is severely tiny compared to the others. During the cut phase can you actually keep making that ONE muscle group bigger, while the rest kind of diminish from the cut?

[ShadowBoxing]

SB is this the same girl you said was a 9?

No, not the same one, I was just talking to her a little while ago. I have some updates, but I'll post them in the Relationship Thread.

[enterthemadness]

Hey guys, guess what. I got 160 twice today on the bench press. So 160 is my new max. Not bad for a guy who weighs 126.

[Colossal Spoons]

:up:

[AndThePickles]

Ok, my weakest large muscle area is most definitely my chest muscles. While I am improving on this in my regular workouts, will it do me any good to practice my pushups randomly whenever I get the urge?

[Star]

Does anyone know if you do pushups do your breasts get smaller? I've heard they do, but I do a fairly regular amount of them and ... not in my case, haha.

I don't care either way I'm just curious to know if anyone knows a female (or is a female) who has actually seen a difference in chest size due to push ups... I'm mostly curious.

[Cunning Stunts]

Does anyone know if you do pushups do your breasts get smaller? I've heard they do, but I do a fairly regular amount of them and ... not in my case, haha.

I don't care either way I'm just curious to know if anyone knows a female (or is a female) who has actually seen a difference in chest size due to push ups... I'm mostly curious.

You could lose a little bit of fat through it, but I highly doubt you'd notice massive size changes. You'd probably notice more if your weight was higher and had more fat in your breasts.

[Colossal Spoons]

Ok, my weakest large muscle area is most definitely my chest muscles. While I am improving on this in my regular workouts, will it do me any good to practice my pushups randomly whenever I get the urge?

Yes yes yes

[enterthemadness]

Guys, if I want to put on weight...should I eat 1 or 2 cans of tuna after a workout? Or 1 or 2 cans of salmon? I guess it should be the salmon, cause tuna is high in mercury.

And my diet is so-so, I try not to eat candy everyday or binge eat. Worst thing I do...maybe eat too much **** with cheese...smoke...and drink reg soda/coffee engry drinks. (I am getting addicted to those Starbucks Coffee Engry drinks) They don't even work on me, must be because I work hard all day and cafferine don't do **** for me anymore except for the coffee in the morning.

And I am adding up row rights (with curlbar) to my workout. So I hit those shoulders. And does them behind the back dumbells work the forearms? I've been doing them for a while now.

[Star]

What Starbucks Energy drinks are you talking about? Those things are pretty bad for you...

[enterthemadness]

What Starbucks Energy drinks are you talking about? Those things are pretty bad for you...

Well, I know that but they taste good. Um...the Vanilla...Coffee..and Mocha ones. I need to stop drinking them...least so damn often. I quickly got up to almost a daily basis with them things. Yeah...bad.

[Cunning Stunts]

Guys, if I want to put on weight...should I eat 1 or 2 cans of tuna after a workout? Or 1 or 2 cans of salmon? I guess it should be the salmon, cause tuna is high in mercury.

And my diet is so-so, I try not to eat candy everyday or binge eat. Worst thing I do...maybe eat too much **** with cheese...smoke...and drink reg soda/coffee engry drinks. (I am getting addicted to those Starbucks Coffee Engry drinks) They don't even work on me, must be because I work hard all day and cafferine don't do **** for me anymore except for the coffee in the morning.

And I am adding up row rights (with curlbar) to my workout. So I hit those shoulders. And does them behind the back dumbells work the forearms? I've been doing them for a while now.

Salmon is arguably the most healthy meat for you.

All those energy drinks and sodas will actually detriment your workout pretty badly. You'll have slightly more energy due to the caffeine, but all those sugars and carbs will likely counteract all the "extra" work you're doing. On top of that, sugar crashes suck. :down

[enterthemadness]

Salmon is arguably the most healthy meat for you.

All those energy drinks and sodas will actually detriment your workout pretty badly. You'll have slightly more energy due to the caffeine, but all those sugars and carbs will likely counteract all the "extra" work you're doing. On top of that, sugar crashes suck. :down

It tasted good, straight outta that can.

Most of my cafferine intake is before I work out.

And I've asked some people I know...gonna ask here because I can. I've popped my right knee twice taking showers last week (on accident). And sometimes...I get a sharp pain in my right knee while pushing carts...feels like it is in the knee. A friend of mine said it could be nerve damage or fluid buildup in my knee. Cause I can crack/pop a lot of my bones from the knee down in my right leg every so often. It may be awhile before I can get it checked out, so I ma trying to wear my knee sleeve when I work. I got knee sleeves when I had bilateral hamstring strains.

[mrvlknight21]

Ok, my weakest large muscle area is most definitely my chest muscles. While I am improving on this in my regular workouts, will it do me any good to practice my pushups randomly whenever I get the urge?

It will help you get better at pushups.
Doing that is a bit like the "grease the groove" program that I have used and recommend for anyone trying to increase numbers on a certain exercise (pushups, pullups, etc).

[Colossal Spoons]

Fixed my bench press form today(elbows tucked in) and it made a world of diff. Less shoulder involvement, more chest :up:

[Hush]

What do you mean Spoons? Im curious if there is maybe a picture to let us know the difference.

[mrvlknight21]

What do you mean Spoons? Im curious if there is maybe a picture to let us know the difference.

Yeah, give us a visual example, if possible.

[enterthemadness]

Um...I can't really visualize regular grip bench with elbows tucked in or close to you. Close grip I can. So, like the others, please show a pic.

[mrvlknight21]

I posted this in that "Bowflex" thread a minute ago, but since it was pretty dead, I wanted to post it here as well.
They just had their third recall on this "machine."
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/safety/2009/03/nautilus-makes-third-recall-of-the-bowflex-ultimate-2-home-gym.html

Stick to free weights people-more exercises and better results!

[Colossal Spoons]

What do you mean Spoons? Im curious if there is maybe a picture to let us know the difference.

Yeah, give us a visual example, if possible.

I'll try to find a pic. Basically, the way I was benching before was with my arms perpendicular to my body(almost a complete 180 degree angle). I noticed that my shoulders were way too sore after chest day so I tucked my elbows in to about 45 degrees; bringing them closer to my body. Way more pec muscle fibers were recruited and my delts were demoted back to stabilizer status....as it should be :up:

[Hush]

I kinda see how that works.

[Colossal Spoons]

You probably do it correctly and don't even realize. I was messing it up lol

[Lunar_Wolf]

Oh Christ, I'm hungry....That cinnamon and raisin bread looks so good right now....Must fight it!

[Nightmare]

Will Powah!!!!

[mrvlknight21]

oh christ, i'm hungry....that cinnamon and raisin bread looks so good right now....must fight it!

ewwwwwwww!

[DV8]

damn, jag never came back?? :(

[mrvlknight21]

damn, jag never came back?? :(

No, he told me that he didnt plan to either.

[DV8]

No, he told me that he didnt plan to either.

goddamn :( :(

[Colossal Spoons]

You know times are bad when jag leaves

[theberserker]

All those energy drinks and sodas will actually detriment your workout pretty badly. You'll have slightly more energy due to the caffeine, but all those sugars and carbs will likely counteract all the "extra" work you're doing.

Thats not true. enterthemadness said; "Guys, if I want to put on weight..."

I'm assuming he's talking about muscle. Muscles need glucose to grow; glucose is derived from "all those sugars and carbs" - another name for glucose is called "blood sugar".

Muscles store glucose as glycogen. When doing resistance training the body will quickly metabolize that glycogen for fuel for the muscles. Eventually that supply will quickly run out.

So Enterthemadness drinking that energy drink before he works out is actually beneficial as he will have a higher free floating blood sugar level, which will trigger an insulin spike which aids in the absorbtion of glucose back into those starving muscles.

[SsM]

RIP Jag!

[ShadowBoxing]

Jag died :(

[Colossal Spoons]

Good for him though :up:

[Red Cherry Lips]

My husband and I did the yoga class at 24 for the first time, and boy did I feel relaxed/de-stressed afterwards. We both agreed we need to do this class at least once a week.

And this particular class was perfect for beginners, too. The poses were not too pretzel-like. :oldrazz: I've done yoga before but I never had an instructor with such a soothing voice as hers was. During the meditative parts I thought I was going to fall into a wonderful, deep sleep.

This morning I am so feeling my workout, though. My legs, in particular, are on fire! *drinking lots of water*

The day before yesterday we went out for a 4.5 mile evening run and did a few hills. The fresh, cool air felt so good. I love a good run to kick out all the stress and crappy feelings (yeah, been that kind of a week). Was bouncing off the walls afterward and hungry as hell. :woot:

[Hush]

Killed my legs yesterday, dear God it was amazing.