The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[mrvlknight21]

SB, you know anything about buying spinner bikes(I know, not good for the ol' scrotum but I'm not havin kids anyway :o)? They range from like $500 to $4500.

http://www.spinning.com/spinning-shop/spinner-bikes.asp?gclid=CO39pKSh5ZkCFWVM5QodtGBOQw

Entirely too many options :(

I just bought my wife the "sport" bike that is on that website.
I got it off craigslist w/ 4 dvd follow along programs for $100.
Check around.

[Colossal Spoons]

$100? That's waaaay below retail lol.

[Manic]

So. I'm keeping the fact that I'm going back to the gym a secret from my family. Somehow, they have the ability to make me feel bad for going to the gym. Throughout 2008, I'd get off work, go to the gym, come home that night, and someone at home had bought a cake/pie/pallet of cookies. They'd offer me some, I'd say no, and they'd say (damn near every time in the exact same near-condescending way) "Oh, that's right. Kevin exercises now!" That went on for months. I'd always end up getting a glass of water, shuffling off to to room thinking "What the hell is wrong with you people?"

My family is full of fat-enablers, but they only become complete pricks about my diet when they know I'm actively trying to lose weight.

[SheldonLevene]

So. I'm keeping the fact that I'm going back to the gym a secret from my family. Somehow, they have the ability to make me feel bad for going to the gym. Throughout 2008, I'd get off work, go to the gym, come home that night, and someone at home had bought a cake/pie/pallet of cookies. They'd offer me some, I'd say no, and they'd say (damn near every time in the exact same near-condescending way) "Oh, that's right. Kevin exercises now!" That went on for months. I'd always end up getting a glass of water, shuffling off to to room thinking "What the hell is wrong with you people?"

My family is full of fat-enablers, but they only become complete pricks about my diet when they know I'm actively trying to lose weight.


That really sucks.

[NotFadeAway]

So. I'm keeping the fact that I'm going back to the gym a secret from my family. Somehow, they have the ability to make me feel bad for going to the gym. Throughout 2008, I'd get off work, go to the gym, come home that night, and someone at home had bought a cake/pie/pallet of cookies. They'd offer me some, I'd say no, and they'd say (damn near every time in the exact same near-condescending way) "Oh, that's right. Kevin exercises now!" That went on for months. I'd always end up getting a glass of water, shuffling off to to room thinking "What the hell is wrong with you people?"

My family is full of fat-enablers, but they only become complete pricks about my diet when they know I'm actively trying to lose weight.

I have the same crap going on. My family got on me so hard about my weight, but kept all the bad food around. Now that I'm thin, they jump my bones about being obsessive.

[NotFadeAway]

Is White Rice fattening?

[Manic]

That's a good question. Adding to that, why do I more often hear about people eating brown rice when they're on a strict diet?

[NotFadeAway]

That's a good question. Adding to that, why do I more often hear about people eating brown rice when they're on a strict diet?

Another good question i'd like to have an asnwer for....

[The Spawn]

More fiber.

[Colossal Spoons]

Is White Rice fattening?

No. Nothing is really "fattening" unless it causes you to end the day in a caloric surplus. "Fat isn't fattening".

That's a good question. Adding to that, why do I more often hear about people eating brown rice when they're on a strict diet?

Like Spawn said, fiber

[mrvlknight21]

$100? That's waaaay below retail lol.

Well, it was used after all.
Craigslist is how I got a LOT of my equipment.
One a side note, she has not used it yet, so if you make a trip down here anytime, just pick the dang thing up!

[NotFadeAway]

So what would be better at keeping your weight in check, white pasta or white rice?

I'm sorry I ask all these diet questions, I'm not good at the nutrition aspect of fitness. I know how to work out, I don't know how to eat.

[Spider-Nerd]

whole wheat pasta > white rice.

[NotFadeAway]

So, if you run 3-6 miles a day, five days a week, and you eat alot of white rice, will you lose weight?

[Colossal Spoons]

So what would be better at keeping your weight in check, white pasta or white rice?

I'm sorry I ask all these diet questions, I'm not good at the nutrition aspect of fitness. I know how to work out, I don't know how to eat.

Just watch your total calories at the end of the day

[Prison Mike]

I have a goal to gain 30 lbs by the end of summer. Any tips?

[SsM]

Lots of meat.

[Mario_Galaxy]

Chocolate. :p


Are you lifting weights? And you have to get in the right amount of calories.

[Prison Mike]

meat? Ok, I can do that. I've been taking this protein drink called Muscle Milk. It has like 25 grams of protein in it. I've also been eating lots of peanut butter and peanuts and pasta. I'm lifting some weights but not as frequently as I'd like to.

[DeGenerate10]

I have a goal to gain 30 lbs by the end of summer. Any tips?

I have the same goal actually. I'm weighing around 150 to 155 right now. I'd love to be up in the 180s

[Prison Mike]

I have the same goal actually. I'm weighing around 150 to 155 right now. I'd love to be up in the 180s

I am constantly trying to eat something. like every 3 hours. it's tough.

[Hush]

Oatmeal put weight on me really easy, 3 packets with Milk and heated up. Good stuff man. I did that for breakfast and a shake before and after my workouts. Its a nice way to gain what you want.

[amazingfantasy15]

Less than 3 weeks to go to my first marathon, finished my peak week of running on Saturday with a 20 miler, now in taper mode. A little nervous about those last 6.2 miles after how I felt after the 20 miler, but hoping the crowd will help me through. I know I'll be able to finish, just don't want to end up walking most of those last 6.2 miles.

[JStorm]

Well, it was used after all.
Craigslist is how I got a LOT of my equipment.
One a side note, she has not used it yet, so if you make a trip down here anytime, just pick the dang thing up!

Hell. He and I can make a road trip, and meet you half way.

[Spider-Nerd]

I have a goal to gain 30 lbs by the end of summer. Any tips?

Yeah, some HGH or testosterone MIGHT get that done if you lift real hard, 5 or 6 days a week and eat like a monster.

Oh you wanted to add 30 pounds naturally? Well, eat big, lift 4-5 days a week heavy and fast. And wait. 30lbs in 4 months is a ton of weight to add unless you're just starting out. Be patient. :up:

[Prison Mike]

Oatmeal put weight on me really easy, 3 packets with Milk and heated up. Good stuff man. I did that for breakfast and a shake before and after my workouts. Its a nice way to gain what you want.

okay, I'll try the oatmeal. I have some with me so it should be quick and easy then. thanks.

Yeah, some HGH or testosterone MIGHT get that done if you lift real hard, 5 or 6 days a week and eat like a monster.

Oh you wanted to add 30 pounds naturally? Well, eat big, lift 4-5 days a week heavy and fast. And wait. 30lbs in 4 months is a ton of weight to add unless you're just starting out. Be patient. :up:

yeah, I'm trying naturally. Aside from protein shakes, I don't want to take anything else except for food. I've been trying to eat something every 3 hours. hopefuylly I'll gain something by the end of summer.

[Spider-Nerd]

yeah, I'm trying naturally. Aside from protein shakes, I don't want to take anything else except for food. I've been trying to eat something every 3 hours. hopefuylly I'll gain something by the end of summer.

Make sure you're doing the right kind of lifts too. Unless you've been lifting for years I'd deadlift, squat, bench, military press, dips, and bench. Do some yoga and core training after each workout and you're on your way. :up:

[Be Snikt-Happy]

One arm pulls:
I randomly just got my first one arm pull up at a time I thought I was getting much weaker. I was trying to reach the pull up bar and I hope with one hand extended but noticed once I grabbed on I felt light and not heavy like most days. I pulled myself up and I was like ok maybe I didnt lose them. I used to be able to do 3 one arm chins years ago before I broke my foot. But recently was the first time I got it with palms facing away.


Question about Strength training:
Also if you changed your routine to training for strength instead of size, will you gain size much slower but whatever you get wont leave you as quickly as if you were training for size? Ive been training specifically for strength for 6 months and I noticed I did get a little bit stronger, but its weird that I havent gained any size from it.

[Manic]

I feel a little guilty for a workout I had a few days ago. I was falling asleep throughout the day, and I was about to doze off at the wheel of my car, so I bought a 5 Hour Energy shot. This was about half an hour before going to the gym, though. It was the most ridiculously easy workout I've ever had. I was getting fatigued after my sets, but I just wasn't getting tired. It felt kinda like cheating.

[Hush]

Yeah but man at least you made it to the gym, that is the first step, those 5 hour things are like no-xplode. Or no better or worse really. Don't worry, maybe its time to up the weight.

[Manic]

Up the weight? I've been back for 2 weeks after an extremely lengthy hiatus. I just got full motion back in most of my limbs a few days ago.

[Hush]

Well YOU said it was too easy, just like add a 5 or 2.5 it won't kill. What are you comming back from? The Dead?

[Manic]

I said I was still getting fatigued. Weight still became difficult to lift after a few sets, but I kept feeling like I could go on and on.

[Hush]

Oh ok, my bad but that is what those 5 hour things will do. I had to take one before a shift one time and man it was like i was just transformed into superman.

[NotFadeAway]

So what is everyones opinion on the low fat Special K waffles? There made from enriched wheat flour, but they are low in fat and part of the special K diet promotion. Are they healthy or fattening?

[JStorm]

So what is everyones opinion on the low fat Special K waffles? There made from enriched wheat flour, but they are low in fat and part of the special K diet promotion. Are they healthy or fattening?

For a snack, in the middle of the day - not so much.

However, my girl buys those, among other wheat waffles, for the kid's breakfast. So - yes - in a pinch, I grab one, with a piece of fruit, for breakfast.

Again, in a pinch. I equate those with the low-sodium V8. No horrible - but not ideal.

[LastSunrise1981]

It's been a good while since I've posted in the Fitness Thread. How's everyone's progress? Mine is still going strong and with the bodybuilding training that I started I gained quite a bit of muscle.

We do various workouts in order to shock the muscles or confuse, whichever sounds more correct if you will. Today was somewhat of a easy workout with three sets of bench presses, five sets of bicep curls with 80lb dumbells, six sets of abs which some included crunches and leg raises, to top it off we ended it with a 20 minute treadmill session.

Let me be the first to say that the majority of my bodybuilding friends at the gym HATE cardio. But for some reason I've learned to actually embrace it and excel at it. I found it to be very refreshing and a great way to not only get in shape but to clear the mind as well.

After working out we all went to this chinese restaurant and had a big meal with lots, lots, and lots of meat for our protein(white meat to be specific). I also had a bowl of raw fruit, two bottled waters, and of course my daily multi-vitamin and vitamin C supplements.

I also found how awesome and confidence inducing it is to be at a restaurant with bodybuilders and how we all hit on certain waitresses there. It can be pretty fun. I hope to one day find my CD-rom that goes with my digital camera that way I can take pictures of my progress.

[Colossal Spoons]

five sets of bicep curls with 80lb dumbells

/jealous :eek:

[LastSunrise1981]

/jealous :eek:

Oh, trust me it was tough. I had to really struggle and do a lot of cussing in the midst of doing the fourth set. Thankfully I had a spot there to make sure I didn't do any damage to myself.

My favorite lifting process is getting a weight lifting bar, placing it in its holder, then putting two forty five lbs weights on it, then a five lb weight, and then a ten lb weight then proceeding to lift it up in order to work the back and lats. It's a fun workout but it becomes a pain when you get to the third or fourth set.

Arnold Presses are killer too.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm a big fan of Arnold Presses. The anterior delts are very often neglected.

[Manic]

Ugh. I feel terrible for skipping the gym all winter. I feel like I'm just trying to catch up to where I was before, which was fixing my weak points.

Some time ago, I came to the conclusion that the reason I was making no progress with certain exercises (like my inability to do a pullup or my quick fails with bench presses) was due to not only a lack of strength in the primary muscle groups that those exercises were meant to work, but my secondary muscles for those exercises were crap. I wasn't doing enough bicep work, so my arms were giving out on the assisted pullup machine almost instantly. My shoulders are terrible, so my bench presses were being haulted when the bar was still at my chest. It was annoying, because I felt like my back and chest (respectively) could handle more sets, but everything else was giving up on me.

So now it's back to having a separate workout day for shoulders, and finding a day for biceps. The biceps thing will have to wait for next week, though. I just threw extra curls into my back day today.

[Colossal Spoons]

What's your split like now?

[Manic]

Day 1 - Legs
Day 2 - Chest/Triceps
Day 3 - Back/Biceps (maybe Abs)
Day 4 - Shoulders (Abs, if skipped on Day 3)


I don't remember how the hell I managed to stretch that out to 5 days, last year.

[Colossal Spoons]

Why wouldn't you have time for biceps then?

I've had a lot of success with splitting up the leg workouts. I do Quads/Calves on one day and Shoulders/Hamstrings on another(usually 2 days apart). :up:

[Manic]

I guess I can divide my Back/Biceps day into two separate days. It'll prevent me from falling into the trap of doing 12,000 back exercises and neglecting my arms entirely.

[JStorm]

Why wouldn't you have time for biceps then?

I've had a lot of success with splitting up the leg workouts. I do Quads/Calves on one day and Shoulders/Hamstrings on another(usually 2 days apart). :up:

Devil and I, among others, did out leg work out Wednesday. I didn't feel anything this morning. But now my legs are beginning to feel like rubber.

[Colossal Spoons]

I guess I can divide my Back/Biceps day into two separate days. It'll prevent me from falling into the trap of doing 12,000 back exercises and neglecting my arms entirely.

And give biceps their own day? Sounds like a waste. If anything, give triceps/biceps their own day and do some cardio to make up for the time since it'll prob be a shorter workout.

Devil and I, among others, did out leg work out Wednesday. I didn't feel anything this morning. But now my legs are beginning to feel like rubber.

I love the ol' rubber leg

[JStorm]

I love the ol' rubber leg

If that is a sexual pass, I'll take it. :O

[Manic]

And give biceps their own day? Sounds like a waste. If anything, give triceps/biceps their own day and do some cardio to make up for the time since it'll prob be a shorter workout.
I already run (well, I walk and run intermitinly) after every workout except legs.

Anyway, how would I divide up my days if I do biceps and triceps on the same day? I know I'm supposed to have a gap of a few days between similar workouts so I don't overwork anything. My triceps are already getting a workout when I do chest and shoulders, and my biceps get worked when I do my back. As it is, I was thinking of moving my legs to another day so my chest and shoulders aren't done only 2 days apart from one another.

[Colossal Spoons]

If that is a sexual pass, I'll take it. :O

:lmao:

I already run (well, I walk and run intermitinly) after every workout except legs.

Anyway, how would I divide up my days if I do biceps and triceps on the same day? I know I'm supposed to have a gap of a few days between similar workouts so I don't overwork anything. My triceps are already getting a workout when I do chest and shoulders, and my biceps get worked when I do my back. As it is, I was thinking of moving my legs to another day so my chest and shoulders aren't done only 2 days apart from one another.

Back
Chest
Shoulders
Legs
Arms/Calves/Abs/Etc.

I wouldn't really worry about your triceps on shoulder day as it hardly hinders your strength on chest/tricep days.

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, Storm, we will do a bit of a mixed bag today to cover the smaller parts we may have missed (thats not a sexual pass by the way).

Legs feel good, nothing like a little DOMS to start the weekend!

[JStorm]

Yeah, Storm, we will do a bit of a mixed bag today to cover the smaller parts we may have missed (thats not a sexual pass by the way).

Legs feel good, nothing like a little DOMS to start the weekend!

Circuit 1: Burpees, shoulders, burpees, biceps, burpees x2.

Circuit 2: Prohibition x2.

Circuit 3: Punching bag*, jacks, repeat until puke - 'nuff said.
*Rest is holding the bag for said partner.

Circuit 4: Core.

Circuit 5: Medicine ball slams or sledge-tire for one minute.


That should do it.

[mrvlknight21]

Circuit 1: Burpees, shoulders, burpees, biceps, burpees x2.

Circuit 2: Prohibition x2.

Circuit 3: Punching bag*, jacks, repeat until puke - 'nuff said.
*Rest is holding the bag for said partner.

Circuit 4: Core.

Circuit 5: Medicine ball slams or sledge-tire for one minute.


That should do it.



Yeah...I say that would do it.
Glad to see you welcoming the puking!
:hehe:

[JStorm]

Yeah...I say that would do it.
Glad to see you welcoming the puking!
:hehe:

To elaborate on the bag, if we have four attendants, two can do jacks, while the other two hit the bag - hence, again, the rest is for the one holding the bag.

[mrvlknight21]

To elaborate on the bag, if we have four attendants, two can do jacks, while the other two hit the bag - hence, again, the rest is for the one holding the bag.

I dont have enough gloves for that.
We may have to drop that section.

[JStorm]

I dont have enough gloves for that.
We may have to drop that section.

One set, is all you need.

Group 1: Devil and Storm, you hold I box. Switch gloves, I hold you box.
Group 2: Jolly Green and $$$, jumping jacks.

Switch groups, until puke.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Oh, trust me it was tough. I had to really struggle and do a lot of cussing in the midst of doing the fourth set. Thankfully I had a spot there to make sure I didn't do any damage to myself.

My favorite lifting process is getting a weight lifting bar, placing it in its holder, then putting two forty five lbs weights on it, then a five lb weight, and then a ten lb weight then proceeding to lift it up in order to work the back and lats. It's a fun workout but it becomes a pain when you get to the third or fourth set.

Arnold Presses are killer too.

Damn man Gj. Got any pics? You must be Arnold sized. 80 lb dumbells is no joke

[mrvlknight21]

I would like to see video of a full set of 80lb dumbbell curls!

[SheldonLevene]

Seconded.

[Colossal Spoons]

Seriously, that's some amazing s**t

[Be Snikt-Happy]

yeah im 135 and can curl 50 at my best. 80 is like wtf?

[LastSunrise1981]

Damn man Gj. Got any pics? You must be Arnold sized. 80 lb dumbells is no joke

Unfortunately I don't. I'm having a hard time finding the cd-rom that goes with my digital camera. I've been wanting to take pictures of my progress, me working out at the gym, and so forth. But if only I can find that damn cd-rom so I can upload the camera program.

As for my size? I've always been a pretty big guy, so I won't say that I'm Arnold's size but my muscle mass appears to be growing and I'm getting stronger with each workout.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

thats cool atleast youre honest. congrats on all your gains. and i think john cena said his arms were always just naturally kinna big. i guess everybody's made differently. i dont give a crap about my lats honestly, yet they were just big after puberty. why cant i naturally have big arms haha

how much do you weigh man? do you compete in anything like bodybuilding or the weighltifting circuits? whenever you get the chance about the pics its fine. its odd for me to say to another guy "pics! PICS!"

[mrvlknight21]

Unfortunately I don't. I'm having a hard time finding the cd-rom that goes with my digital camera. I've been wanting to take pictures of my progress, me working out at the gym, and so forth. But if only I can find that damn cd-rom so I can upload the camera program.

As for my size? I've always been a pretty big guy, so I won't say that I'm Arnold's size but my muscle mass appears to be growing and I'm getting stronger with each workout.

Most digital cameras do not require you to do that (load the cd program)actually.
I know my last 4 (all different brands and models-Sony, Panasonic, Canon and Fuji) didnt require it.

[Manic]

Doesn't it usually depend on the computer operating system? I know your average Mac and Windows XP/Vista have plug-&-play features, and will automatically work with most digital cameras.

[mrvlknight21]

Doesn't it usually depend on the computer operating system? I know your average Mac and Windows XP/Vista have plug-&-play features, and will automatically work with most digital cameras.

Maybe so.
All of mine were used w/ XP.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm seen an old pic of LS before, def a big dude. And this was before he started working out :D

[LastSunrise1981]

I know what picture you're talking about CS. That is definitely a very, very cold picture and that was me at about 260 if I'm not mistaken. A lot has changed since that particular day.

As for the camera issues, I have the cord that plugs into my camera in order for the upload to happen. I tried it recently and it wouldn't work, so I assumed that I would need to upload the program again since we had some issues with the main computer crashing.

However, I do promise to get some pictures on here detailing my progress and so forth.

[JStorm]

Most digital cameras do not require you to do that (load the cd program)actually.
I know my last 4 (all different brands and models-Sony, Panasonic, Canon and Fuji) didnt require it.

You're using logic, in a conversation where there isn't any.

[DarbyD53]

Hi guys and gals. I've read this post a little over the months and never posted. I offically joined the gym yesterday and at 6am this morning I entered it for the first time. I have some goals in my head that I want to get done and once I do I'll post before and after pictures. Just wanted to say I enjoy reading this thread and soon maybe I'll be able to help others out with questions once I change my lifestyle.

[Colossal Spoons]

I know what picture you're talking about CS. That is definitely a very, very cold picture and that was me at about 260 if I'm not mistaken. A lot has changed since that particular day

I think you were in front of a mirror with some metal band t-shirt on. :up:

[Scarlet spidey]

Being out of shape sucks. (Then again I've never been IN shape either)
I walked/jogged/walked/ran/walked/jogged/walked for about 50 minutes today, lifted a few dumbells, and did a few pushups too.
I almost puked. I made some oatmeal and I was seriously going to not eat it out of fear of not being able to keep it down.
Feels good though, cept for the burning in my lungs.:csad:

[Nightmare]

260? Damn. How about you spoons? You got a pic of you and Pickles? :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Pickles ain't got nuthin to do w/ my muscles lol

Me (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2008/07/15/269699/profilepic/2037732orig.jpg)

[Spider-Nerd]

I know what picture you're talking about CS. That is definitely a very, very cold picture and that was me at about 260 if I'm not mistaken. A lot has changed since that particular day.

As for the camera issues, I have the cord that plugs into my camera in order for the upload to happen. I tried it recently and it wouldn't work, so I assumed that I would need to upload the program again since we had some issues with the main computer crashing.

However, I do promise to get some pictures on here detailing my progress and so forth.

260? damn dude. You like 6'4? my ultimate goal is 235.

[Hush]

Got to pick up some Glutamine tom. but its a legs day, God do i love hitting legs!

[Colossal Spoons]

260? damn dude. You like 6'4? my ultimate goal is 235.

I don't think I could go higher than 250 w/o looking fat/weird. I'm also not that tall.

[JStorm]

Pickles ain't got nuthin to do w/ my muscles lol

Me (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2008/07/15/269699/profilepic/2037732orig.jpg)

*cough*

sexisgreatcardio

*cough*

[Be Snikt-Happy]

I know what picture you're talking about CS. That is definitely a very, very cold picture and that was me at about 260 if I'm not mistaken. A lot has changed since that particular day.

As for the camera issues, I have the cord that plugs into my camera in order for the upload to happen. I tried it recently and it wouldn't work, so I assumed that I would need to upload the program again since we had some issues with the main computer crashing.

However, I do promise to get some pictures on here detailing my progress and so forth.

Wow so we were close to seeing the 80 lb curls? You actually filmed yourself you mean? How much do you weigh man?

CS you look hulked out there. You look a lot younger too!

[Prison Mike]

Pickles ain't got nuthin to do w/ my muscles lol

Me (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2008/07/15/269699/profilepic/2037732orig.jpg)

holy crap! :wow:

[Manic]

Didn't you used to have a beard?

[Colossal Spoons]

My hair changes every week lol. Currently rockin dreads and a clean shaven face.

CS you look hulked out there. You look a lot younger too!

I was bulking then. It was about a year ago :up:

[Spider-Nerd]

spoons, check out a new men's health book. Huge in a hurry. Some nice workouts in there just to change things up once in awhile.

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, figures. My subscription just ran out. I get Flex and Muscle&Fitness now.

[NotFadeAway]

Here is a question for everyone....

Which is better, a High carb-Low Fat diet, or a Low Carb-High Protein/Fat diet?

[Colossal Spoons]

None are better(you seem to fond of absolutes lol). If you do the first one, make sure you get "enough" fat and def look into flax seed and fish oils. If you do the latter; which as called the ketogenic diet, make sure you get your carbs at the right times-especially post workout.

[Hush]

I hit legs hard today but my shoulders really impressed me. I did lateral side raises with 50lb db's. New awesomeness for me along with a 315 new pr Squat twice, i was ****ing pumped!

[Colossal Spoons]

Good job. Careful w/ the side raises cuz it's really easy to FUBAR your delts when you get up past 40lbs. Jag told me that. I've gotten as high as 35lbs before I felt my form start to suck so I don't think I'll be going any heavier for a while.

Jag :(

[LastSunrise1981]

Wow so we were close to seeing the 80 lb curls? You actually filmed yourself you mean? How much do you weigh man?

CS you look hulked out there. You look a lot younger too!

Right now at this present moment I weigh 220lbs. I was down to 212 but the current bodybuilding training has me consuming a lot more protein, lifting more weights, and gaining more muscle in the process. I'm still doing cardio but my weight training lasts about two to three hours now.

I'm hoping to start filming myself working out or start taking pictures of my regime as well.

As I said, the last time I tried uploading pictures from my digital camera to the main computer nothing happened. Hence why I need to find the cd-rom so I can upload my Kodak program again.

[Colossal Spoons]

What do you do for 2-3 hours? :eek:

[LastSunrise1981]

What do you do for 2-3 hours? :eek:

Lots and lots of weight training. Typically a training day for me is a full body workout and I end it with cardio. Today for instance I'll go to the gym and do my biceps, chest, back, shoulders, legs, abs, and triceps, then once that's done I'll go do about 20-30 minutes on the treadmill.

I'm one of those people who feels that his workout isn't complete without doing the full body. The thing is I don't feel burned out or tired from any of it, to be quite honest, my energy is at an all time high and after doing a workout of that length you can rest assure that I eat a lot to recover. Normally after I shower we'll get together and go to a restaurant like Applebee's or a Japanese restaurant for the protein, vegetables, and of course hitting on the waitresses is an extra incentive. :)

Yesterday was an easy day because I just did some weight lifting before going to work to relieve some stress. But tomorrow will most likely be a two to three hour workout for me.

Once I get in the zone and the manager who is a bodybuilder starts playing some metal or great workout music? Man, I lose track of time and I just throw myself even deeper into the workout.

[Colossal Spoons]

Full body makes sense. I was like "There's no way a 1 or 2 muscle workout could possibly take that long" Haha.

God, I'd kill to be able to control the music at either of my gyms. It's all pop. I need metal and the occasional WWE theme song or nothing at all :o mp3 players FTW

[LastSunrise1981]

Full body makes sense. I was like "There's no way a 1 or 2 muscle workout could possibly take that long" Haha.

God, I'd kill to be able to control the music at either of my gyms. It's all pop. I need metal and the occasional WWE theme song or nothing at all :o mp3 players FTW

Well, see where I live the majority of the residents are African-American(including myself). I am one of the rare ones who LOVES metal music and collects it. The manager is a good guy, but unfortunately since he runs the gym he has to think about what sounds good for the customers.

For instance if it's myself, Justin, Tim(the manager), Matt, and Lee in there he'll turn on some metal and we just start working out. But once some people come in who aren't metal fans or listen to rap/pop, he has to turn the metal music off in order to avoid alienating people. It's pretty stupid because it's great workout music and I'm sure they'd feel the pump if he left it on.

I normally don't listen to WWE themes while working out. For me, I get my pump going when I turn on some music from the Rocky films, Disturbed, Machine Head, Killswitch Engage, Iron Maiden, and so forth.

[Colossal Spoons]

Disturbed always gets the job done :up: But if Batista, Lesnar, or Goldberg's music comes up in my playlist; the nearest weight to me is getting picked up furiously.

I actually find that some of that pop type music takes me out of the zone sometimes. I hate having to listen to Katy Perry in between sets haha.

[Hush]

Good job. Careful w/ the side raises cuz it's really easy to FUBAR your delts when you get up past 40lbs. Jag told me that. I've gotten as high as 35lbs before I felt my form start to suck so I don't think I'll be going any heavier for a while.

Jag :(

See I start with 35's. Do eight on each side with that then i move to the 50's.

[Cunning Stunts]

You want a damned good song to get pumped to when working out?

Till I Collapse. That song pumps me up 10X more than even Lose Yourself does.

[Cunning Stunts]

And to feed my Metallica obsession- Battery. Between that and Till I Collapse, I'm ready to go to WAR! :cmad:

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, Eminem's got a few songs that are good for that.

See I start with 35's. Do eight on each side with that then i move to the 50's.

Sweet :up:

[mrvlknight21]

You guys are crazy or strong as hell w/ those side raises!
I have always kept it between 15-25 and usually did 10 or more reps. If I go heavier, my form is S H ! T.


One of my favorite shoulder burnouts-get a light weight (like above), do 10 front raises. 10 side raises then 10 overhead presses. Go straight through, without any rest or stopping..the weight will feel pretty heavy once you get to the overhead presses!

[Be Snikt-Happy]

Right now at this present moment I weigh 220lbs. I was down to 212 but the current bodybuilding training has me consuming a lot more protein, lifting more weights, and gaining more muscle in the process. I'm still doing cardio but my weight training lasts about two to three hours now.

I'm hoping to start filming myself working out or start taking pictures of my regime as well.

As I said, the last time I tried uploading pictures from my digital camera to the main computer nothing happened. Hence why I need to find the cd-rom so I can upload my Kodak program again.


ahh man, thanks. it really is an inspiration. biceps are admittedly my favorite to work out. i havent seen anyone curl 80 lbs. whenever you get the chance, no rush





ALSO:

guys is there any advantage to being short with lifting? a lot of the people i have known always say that i can lift that much because im short (5'3 - 5'4.) im wondering if maybe its really an advantage

[mrvlknight21]

You dont have as far to go on the moves, thats one advantage.

[Spider-Nerd]

Haha, figures. My subscription just ran out. I get Flex and Muscle&Fitness now.

I used to flip through those, but I find that flex and muscle+fitness are nothing but giant advertisements for the supplement industry. I find men's health to be the least whore'd out of the magazines.:up:

[Colossal Spoons]

You guys are crazy or strong as hell w/ those side raises!
I have always kept it between 15-25 and usually did 10 or more reps. If I go heavier, my form is S H ! T.

Yeah, the form can get so bad it looks like a back exercise haha

[Colossal Spoons]

I used to flip through those, but I find that flex and muscle+fitness are nothing but giant advertisements for the supplement industry. I find men's health to be the least whore'd out of the magazines.:up:

I didn't renew Men's Health and Men's Fitness b/c I got too much of a "casual" feel from them. I'm hoping Flex and M&F will be more geared to people looking to get "F'ing huge" lol. You're right about the ads though :down:

[Manic]

Like an idiot, I left my shaker cup at home this morning, and I go to the gym directly after work. So I decided to improvise without having to go home. I stopped by a 7-11 near the gym, bought a Milk Chug (2%), and took that with me. After my workout, I used a system of measurement to find out how many ounces are in a pint by checking several empty water bottles I had on hand, drank away the difference in milk, and mixed my protein powder into the Milk Chug bottle.

Oh. My. God. ON's Cookies & Cream tastes so much better with milk than water. I'd been using water this whole time because it was cheaper and easier to keep in the trunk of my car when I needed it. But dear god, after using milk today, I may never go back.

[Spider-Nerd]

Like an idiot, I left my shaker cup at home this morning, and I go to the gym directly after work. So I decided to improvise without having to go home. I stopped by a 7-11 near the gym, bought a Milk Chug (2%), and took that with me. After my workout, I used a system of measurement to find out how many ounces are in a pint by checking several empty water bottles I had on hand, drank away the difference in milk, and mixed my protein powder into the Milk Chug bottle.

Oh. My. God. ON's Cookies & Cream tastes so much better with milk than water. I'd been using water this whole time because it was cheaper and easier to keep in the trunk of my car when I needed it. But dear god, after using milk today, I may never go back.

the only protein powder that I've found to taste better with water than with milk is muscle milk.

[LastSunrise1981]

Had a great workout today and let me say that my biceps, triceps, chest, and back are extremely sore at the moment. The manager showed me his workout regime and I decided to give it a try. It lasted for about two hours and my biceps and triceps were so tight, sore, and felt extremely huge that I was getting scared for a while lol.

Finished off the workout with twenty minutes on the treadmill at 2.7 mph with an elevation of 5.

Is it weird how you feel irritated, bothered, and disgusted with the world and then when you go to the gym you feel so much better? It's become my second home and when I work out all of my anger, frustrations, and worries are left at the gym. It also helped that he had some great classic rock and metal playing on the PA. Man, I got into my leg extensions when Disturbed's "Liberate" came on.

From the way my training is going I could be competing next year if all goes well.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm one of the few people NOT calmed down by the gym lol. If I go in angry, I leave angry but too tired to do anything about it.

[Manic]

I always go to the gym like "ugh, I guess I have to do this." By the time I leave the gym, I'm high on life and singing in my car on the way home. Catch me when a song I know all the words to what comes on, and you'll see a blithering idiot.

[Colossal Spoons]

I haven't had an "ugh, I guess I have to do this" day in months. If/when you get addicted, those'll stop :D

[Be Snikt-Happy]

You dont have as far to go on the moves, thats one advantage.

true but i was thinking more about body weight stuff id have the advantage with. i have long arms for my shortness and ridiculously short legs. for leg extensions stuff i can see how that would be affected by it.


oh btw, saw the BUFFEST dude that goes to my school gym. at my old skool it was semi common to see this type. but in this smaller college he has got to be the buffest. just unnaturally huge, like you know it isnt for football or another sport. probably a BBer. he seemed cool to talk to.

only thing is that he would constantly tell people how to do exercises and when their form was off. i guess its just adds to that stereotype. i wouldnt care for that but he is also the biggest grunter at the gym. like screaming yelling grunt. usually the biggest grunter at a gym is a tiny dude or newbie. i always thought a real man can surpress his grunt, make it look easy. but i also think if your main hobby is BBing or working with weights the grunting just comes bc you care about it as a hobby. my one friend is a bodybuilder but also retired gymnast. hes huge as well but doesnt grunt bc lifting weights is just another side hobby to him.

do you guys grunt loudly at the gym? i mean yelling grunt

[Colossal Spoons]

true but i was thinking more about body weight stuff id have the advantage with. i have long arms for my shortness and ridiculously short legs. for leg extensions stuff i can see how that would be affected by it.


oh btw, saw the BUFFEST dude that goes to my school gym. at my old skool it was semi common to see this type. but in this smaller college he has got to be the buffest. just unnaturally huge, like you know it isnt for football or another sport. probably a BBer. he seemed cool to talk to.

only thing is that he would constantly tell people how to do exercises and when their form was off. i guess its just adds to that stereotype. i wouldnt care for that but he is also the biggest grunter at the gym. like screaming yelling grunt. usually the biggest grunter at a gym is a tiny dude or newbie. i always thought a real man can surpress his grunt, make it look easy. but i also think if your main hobby is BBing or working with weights the grunting just comes bc you care about it as a hobby. my one friend is a bodybuilder but also retired gymnast. hes huge as well but doesnt grunt bc lifting weights is just another side hobby to him.

do you guys grunt loudly at the gym? i mean yelling grunt

No way. If you grunt unnecessarily, it's for attention. I don't make any noise in the gym aside from the occasional "Yeah buddy!" or "Light weight babay!"(Ronnie Coleman joke :D) before a set.

6ziOhn-rD7Y

Gets good at ~2:11

[Manic]

I struggle with weight all the time (I be weak), so I don't see why some people have to shout to get weight up. The first time I ever heard that at the gym, I looked up to see if someone was injured. It's just distracting and unnecessary.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

So what is everyone up to? How has everyone been doing? Still hitting the gym? I am sure Jag, Spoons, Devil and SB still are. Pretty sure pickles is too. hope all is well for everyone and their new additions to the family, Devil & Jag.

Oh Jag I am sure you will appreciate this... Previous Gen MBP 17" 2.5 Core 2 Duo 4Gb RAM 320GB HDD OS X 10.5.6 w/new Airport Extreme :up:

[Colossal Spoons]

Jag left my friend. Times-a-changin lol.

Buncha new faces around though.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Whhaaaaaa....? Any reason why?

[Colossal Spoons]

Got probation and didn't feel like coming back. His son's probably takin' up most of his time anyway(as well he should)

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Ah, well best of luck to him. What about you Spoons? How are you and the lady?

[Colossal Spoons]

We're great. Her name's in red now

I'm cutting and it sucks. Lost a decent amount of strength but I am losing weight :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nice, how much are you up to now? Last I remember you were around 220ish?

[Colossal Spoons]

I got to 240 and the scale here at work puts me at 228 as of tonight.

How's your training coming along?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Been hard to stay in the gym consistently with work schedule and moving and just life. Getting back to a normal pace but the closest 24 to me only has ONE f-ing assisted power rack.

So I'm trying to figure out what to do for that because I went and saw a Trainer here back in Nov and started doing Olympic lifts and that is all I am going to do from now on. Got strong so fast it was hard to believe but I haven't been able to keep at it steadily so I haven't made any real progress unfortunately.

Started looking into buying my own stuff but then I saw the prices for technique weights and noooooooo thank you. lol.

What's you BF% at now?

[Colossal Spoons]

Buying your own equipment would save money in the long run but it's sooo hard to get those first couple of pieces of equipment. Just cuz it is so expensive.

I'm up around 18% now. I'd like to get down into the single digits. Probably won't happen on this cut but def the next one.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yeah most def, but my membership is only $50 a year plus getting the room for my own power rack & weights requires space and more money. Oh well in time. I'm audi for the night. Peace spoons.

[Be Snikt-Happy]

No way. If you grunt unnecessarily, it's for attention. I don't make any noise in the gym aside from the occasional "Yeah buddy!" or "Light weight babay!"(Ronnie Coleman joke :D) before a set.

6ziOhn-rD7Y

Gets good at ~2:11

See thats the cool yelling. More like a loud comment to oneself. But hearing a guy sound like hes passing a stone is disturbing.

I struggle with weight all the time (I be weak), so I don't see why some people have to shout to get weight up. The first time I ever heard that at the gym, I looked up to see if someone was injured. It's just distracting and unnecessary.

See thats the thing, like you Im putting forth all my potential as much force into it as I can just to get that weight up. I dont see how he could be exerting himself so much that he needs to call upon the power of voice to get the weight up. Im not even being an ass, he was yelling so other people on the other side of the gym looked over. Thing is he was the buffest dude at the gym so I cant say he's one of those grunty noobs.

Grunting is funny when you see skinny new guys do it. But when its the biggest dude at the gym who would otherwise be your hero, it just kinna gives us guys who work the weights a bad reputation.

[mrvlknight21]

So what is everyone up to? How has everyone been doing? Still hitting the gym? I am sure Jag, Spoons, Devil and SB still are. Pretty sure pickles is too. hope all is well for everyone and their new additions to the family, Devil & Jag.

Oh Jag I am sure you will appreciate this... Previous Gen MBP 17" 2.5 Core 2 Duo 4Gb RAM 320GB HDD OS X 10.5.6 w/new Airport Extreme :up:

Hey buddy-long time, no see.
Everything is good-been leading my group 2-3 days a week since about March.
The baby is doing good, she loves to watch me do plyo work...she looks at me like "wtf is my dad doing jumping all over the place." LOL!

Hope all is well with you...stop in more often.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey Devil, yeah things are great. Apple is treating me well, moved into a new place. Life is good. My lifting schedule just needs to get back on track though. Other than that no complaints. Love Olympic style lifting, wish I would have found someone to train me earlier.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I haven't had an "ugh, I guess I have to do this" day in months. If/when you get addicted, those'll stop :D

Absolutely. I never really believed the actual addiction to lifting but once it happens it feels great. Very odd feeling but a good one. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

No way. If you grunt unnecessarily, it's for attention. I don't make any noise in the gym aside from the occasional "Yeah buddy!" or "Light weight babay!"(Ronnie Coleman joke :D) before a set.

6ziOhn-rD7Y

Gets good at ~2:11

That's really hard to gauge though. I mean it's been physiologically proven that yelling actually increases performance through in crease blood flow and an adrenaline rush. Even if a small one it might make or break the last lift of a set.

Although if you're a person that is known as the yeller at your gym that is annoying.

Unless they are saying...."Ain't nutting but a peanut. I can do this, all day long baby!"

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I struggle with weight all the time (I be weak), so I don't see why some people have to shout to get weight up. The first time I ever heard that at the gym, I looked up to see if someone was injured. It's just distracting and unnecessary.

Hey Manic, have you tried reducing your weight and focusing on form and technique? Usually most of us learn the hard way, through wasted time and experience. If you are struggling with a weight reduce it and perfect your form and lifting technique.

The strength, size and increase in weights will come over time.

[mrvlknight21]

Man, we obliterated chest and tris w/ hundreds of pushups, dumbbell bench, dips, tricep extensions and more on Wednesday. Some of the guys are still sore...and mad at me.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lol. Hundreds Devil....over training?

[Hush]

Arms and Back today, im going to try some halting deads, for more lat focus.

[mrvlknight21]

Na....well I dont think we overtrained.

But we started out w/ a circle of 6 stations and at each station you did 10 reps of the exercise.
3 of the stations were pushup variations, 1 was dips, 1 was a tricep exercise (side-tri-rise) and 1 was overhead tricep ext w/ a dumbbell.
We did that 2 times.

Then we did it again 2 times through w/ a change -instead of dips, we did skull crushers and of course different style pushups.

Then we did sets of pushups while one person did dumbbell bench, when they got off dumbbell bench, we rotated-still doing pushups til we got to the bench.

Lastly we did a circuit of dumbbells bench press, followed by pylo pushups, followed by pushups, followed by plyo pushups.

What do you think?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Lol. I thought you meant each of you did hundreds of push ups each. That actually sounds much more reasonable. :up: I am assuming rest time between each of course.

[mrvlknight21]

Lol. I thought you meant each of you did hundreds of push ups each. That actually sounds much more reasonable. :up: I am assuming rest time between each of course.

Well we did do hundreds (200-300) each, just not in one set.
No rest between exercises, only once the circuit was complete.

The end was the hardest, you already had done a TON of chest and tri work and you come off the dumbbell bench press and do a set of plyo pushups...tough stuff.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I don't know. 200-300 push ups does seem excessive to me. But then again I do have mixed feelings about over training and training everyday. I guess it just depends if your body is used to something like that. Which I would assume you are by now Devil.

[Manic]

Hey Manic, have you tried reducing your weight and focusing on form and technique? Usually most of us learn the hard way, through wasted time and experience. If you are struggling with a weight reduce it and perfect your form and lifting technique.

The strength, size and increase in weights will come over time.
But... aren't I supposed to be struggling on my third/final set?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yes and no. You don't want to struggle to the point where your form is sacrificed or if you risk hurting yourself. IMHO, personal experience and talking with a lot of the guys around here. It's better to back off the weight just a little and have much better form and technique.

Work smarter, not harder.

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, Manic, it really depends on what you mean by "struggling."

[Manic]

"Oh my god, I can't get past this 7th or 8th rep, eff this, I'm using a machine next time."

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Don't hit that last rep. Stop at the sixth or seventh. Then next week or two or four weeks later try hitting that next rep.

[Colossal Spoons]

"Oh my god, I can't get past this 7th or 8th rep, eff this, I'm using a machine next time."

It should sound more like "Aaaaarrrrrghhhh!"

Internal monologue of course, don't wanna be that screaming guy at the gym ;)

[Ongie]

I've noticed in the fitness center at my apartment complex that a lot of lifters have terrible form. They never build any muscle mass, either. They do about ten awful reps with a lot of weight, then move on. Is physical education failing America?

I'm not the strongest guy on earth (understatement), but I can at least swallow my pride and lift the right amount the right way.

When I started doing that, I noticed my maxes consistently going up.

[Colossal Spoons]

It's not a result of PE failing, it's people lifting w/ their egos instead of their heads.

I realized I'd been bench pressing all wrong a few months ago so I had to back off the weight and pretty much start from 40%. Did I feel like a betch? Yes. But it was worth it :up:

[mrvlknight21]

"Oh my god, I can't get past this 7th or 8th rep, eff this, I'm using a machine next time."

Whatever you do, dont trade free weights for a machine.

[mrvlknight21]

It's not a result of PE failing, it's people lifting w/ their egos instead of their heads.

:up:

Word.

[Manic]

It should sound more like "Aaaaarrrrrghhhh!"

Internal monologue of course, don't wanna be that screaming guy at the gym ;)
My internal monologue is more articulate. And whiny.
Whatever you do, dont trade free weights for a machine.
Heck, I'm in the middle of switching from machines to free weights. I'd been using this one machine to work my triceps, but I recently discovered that my left arm is now significantly stronger than my right because of that.

[SheldonLevene]

It's not a result of PE failing, it's people lifting w/ their egos instead of their heads.

I realized I'd been bench pressing all wrong a few months ago so I had to back off the weight and pretty much start from 40%. Did I feel like a betch? Yes. But it was worth it :up:

How does one bench press all wrong?

[mrvlknight21]

Spoons said his elbows were at the wrong angle.

[SheldonLevene]

Hmm...I would have to see that.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Don't use machines. Not that they aren't useful, everything does have a use for weight lifting, but none of us recommend them here.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Spoons said his elbows were at the wrong angle.

Were they behind his legs? :confused:

[Colossal Spoons]

Arms were at right angles with my body. They needed to be 45 degrees

[Prison Mike]

I've been working out for almost a month now and I notice my arms getting a little bigger but my wrists are the same size. What can I do to make them bigger?

[LastSunrise1981]

I've been working out for almost a month now and I notice my arms getting a little bigger but my wrists are the same size. What can I do to make them bigger?

Wrist curls. When you're at the gym get a dumbell at about I'd say 10-20 lbs and try curling them for about 12-20 reps(two sets).

[Ongie]

I've been working out for almost a month now and I notice my arms getting a little bigger but my wrists are the same size. What can I do to make them bigger?

You should try wrist-rollers. I noticed the baseball players doing them in high school. I asked a few of them about it, and caught on. They're magic, I tell you. Magic!

http://www.shapefit.com/forearms-exercises-wrist-rollers.html

[Prison Mike]

Wrist curls. When you're at the gym get a dumbell at about I'd say 10-20 lbs and try curling them for about 12-20 reps(two sets).

You should try wrist-rollers. I noticed the baseball players doing them in high school. I asked a few of them about it, and caught on. They're magic, I tell you. Magic!

http://www.shapefit.com/forearms-exercises-wrist-rollers.html

thanks for the advice. I'll try both of them!

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Masturbation.

[Colossal Spoons]

Somebody had to say it. :hehe:

Now no more of that talk before one of us "goes missing" :ninja:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Naturally. :D

So you had your arms at a 90 degree angle?

I am assuming you mean that from your back on the bench, your elbows were lined up with your shoulders, instead of them being down somewhere around your ribcage?

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

thanks for the advice. I'll try both of them!

Using towels when you do pull ups is great for grip strength and your forearms. Also look into kettle bells. Ask Devil about them, I am pretty sure he uses them on a regular basis.

[Warhammer]

- What are the benefits of using free weights?
- What are the benefits of using machines?
- What is the best of the two to build up/increase BULK?

(all of those questions are with diet aside)

[mrvlknight21]

thanks for the advice. I'll try both of them!

Both are good options.

[mrvlknight21]

Using towels when you do pull ups is great for grip strength and your forearms. Also look into kettle bells. Ask Devil about them, I am pretty sure he uses them on a regular basis.

Yeah, I do towel pullups---awesome stuff.
I also got some big balls (no homo) that I attach to my pull up bar and use. They are pretty tough. Here are pics:
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/stormsdbell006.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/jb21-2007/stormsdbell007.jpg

I do use kettlebells, but have backed off of them a little bit lately. I get bored easily...:o

[mrvlknight21]

- What are the benefits of using free weights?
- What are the benefits of using machines?
- What is the best of the two to build up/increase BULK?

(all of those questions are with diet aside)

Free weight benefits:
Research has shown us that free weights promote quicker strength gains and they require more balance and coordination than do the weight machines. Free weights recruit more muscle groups than variable resistance machines, which tend to only isolate specific muscles.

Free weights are also more versatile than machines because they allow for more variations in range of motion. Free weights require balance, and they tend to promote more activity of the joint stabilizer muscles. Finally, they are considerably less expensive than most of the machines on the market. You can perform a complete strength training routine with a few dumbbells, and a little imagination.

Machines:
The only benefit I can think of is safety, at least for noobs just getting started. No need for a spotter and you can drop the weight if you fail with no issues (except a loud clunk).To be honest, one should learn to do the free weight moves, since it is a superior way to do it.


You want to gain size, I suggest you use everything, but focus on the free weights. Use the machines to round out the program, hitting the smaller parts or after you get a little tired and cant properly use the free weights with good form.

[Warhammer]

Thank you, thank you, you're far too kind. :up:

And if anybody else wanted to answer the question, go on ahead.

[Hush]

Nope He pretty much cover it.

So I think i ought to tell you guys that im going to be entering a Body Building competition at the end of summer (August) and its going to be a Local Amateur All Natural one. I hope to get down to about 7-6% body fat from my current 15% or so. My Trainer knows more than enough about dieting and proven methods so he will be leading the charge for me. I just wanted to let you know, im thinking of getting a documentarian to record my summer and my progress. What be your guys thoughts? Ecspecially you Shadow.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Thank you, thank you, you're far too kind. :up:

And if anybody else wanted to answer the question, go on ahead.

Really more than anything though it's diet to bulk up and get strong. You can work out like a beast but if you only eat 1800 calories a day you are going to peak really fast.

More to come on the topic.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Nope He pretty much cover it.

So I think i ought to tell you guys that im going to be entering a Body Building competition at the end of summer (August) and its going to be a Local Amateur All Natural one. I hope to get down to about 7-6% body fat from my current 15% or so. My Trainer knows more than enough about dieting and proven methods so he will be leading the charge for me. I just wanted to let you know, im thinking of getting a documentarian to record my summer and my progress. What be your guys thoughts? Ecspecially you Shadow.

Just good luck and do work son. I've heard about blood types also playing a huge part in really making or breaking how different your approach may be on obtaining your results.

Ask your trainer what he knows about it.

[SheldonLevene]

I've been working out for almost a month now and I notice my arms getting a little bigger but my wrists are the same size. What can I do to make them bigger?


Get a bucket like those huge ones that if you reach down and touch the bottom you will be in to your elbow. Fill it with rice. Put your hands in up to your forearms and do wrist curls. I know it sounds involved and silly, but trust me it works. My brothers pro baseball strength coach had guys do this I promise lol.

edit: you can also just dig in it and squeeze and stuff and it really strenthens your writs forearms and hands after a while.

[mrvlknight21]

Nope He pretty much cover it.

So I think i ought to tell you guys that im going to be entering a Body Building competition at the end of summer (August) and its going to be a Local Amateur All Natural one. I hope to get down to about 7-6% body fat from my current 15% or so. My Trainer knows more than enough about dieting and proven methods so he will be leading the charge for me. I just wanted to let you know, im thinking of getting a documentarian to record my summer and my progress. What be your guys thoughts? Ecspecially you Shadow.

Thats awesome news man.
Let us know how it goes and always focus on your goal-stay determined.

[mrvlknight21]

Get a bucket like those huge ones that if you reach down and touch the bottom you will be in to your elbow. Fill it with rice. Put your hands in up to your forearms and do wrist curls. I know it sounds involved and silly, but trust me it works. My brothers pro baseball strength coach had guys do this I promise lol.

edit: you can also just dig in it and squeeze and stuff and it really strenthens your writs forearms and hands after a while.

This is actually something boxers, mma guys do as well. Similar at least.
Punch into the bucket of rice with an open hand, when you get to the bottom, squeeze into a fist and twist your hand. Repeat, repeat.

[SheldonLevene]

This is actually something boxers, mma guys do as well. Similar at least.
Punch into the bucket with an open hand, when you get to the bottom, squeeze into a fist and twist your hand. Repeat, repeat.

Huh I didn't know that. Interesting. Ever tried it? It really is pretty effective.

[mrvlknight21]

Huh I didn't know that. Interesting. Ever tried it? It really is pretty effective.

Na, although I have meant to for some time.
I have sooooo much grip equipment now, I can barely use it all.
(but a big bucket of rice would have probably been cheaper! LOL!)

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

- What are the benefits of using free weights?
- What are the benefits of using machines?
- What is the best of the two to build up/increase BULK?

(all of those questions are with diet aside)

Devil pretty much covered what the benefits of each are and which you are better off with.

So for which of the two is best for bulking up or increasing your mass. I assume you mean building muscle. It would definitely be free weights but it really depends on the exercises you do but more importantly what you eat.

Diet aside like you said, you probably want to go for sets of 3-5 with reps of 6. Depending on what body part you are hitting. Example, calves. They usually take high reps 12-20 and heavy weights to increase their mass.

Also keep this in mind as well, everyone is different and everyone's body responds differently to different exercises. Also keep in mind that just because you figure out the best way to increase mass/bulk up for your body. It doesn't automatically mean that you are also simultaneously doing what is best for getting as strong as you can.

It may sound confusing but you can lift to get big (and you will get stronger) but if you are training solely for the purpose of getting big that is what your body is training and responding to.

Now the same applies the other way around you can train for strength and not size.

The two certainly go together but depending on what your main goal is that will be the result you see more of. I may just be talking in circles now so I will shut up.

Other may disagree with me but it really depends on what kind of routine you are doing and more than anything else, what your diet is like.

[TNC9852002]

I've got some free weight dumbbells and I'm looking to work on strengthening and toning my wrists and forearms specifically.

Can someone give me some detailed techniques and suggested reps/sets and weights to use? Right now I'm using 25lbs's.

[Colossal Spoons]

Naturally. :D

So you had your arms at a 90 degree angle?

I am assuming you mean that from your back on the bench, your elbows were lined up with your shoulders, instead of them being down somewhere around your ribcage?

Correct. I was getting a hell of a shoulder workout lol.

[DeGenerate10]

I've got some free weight dumbbells and I'm looking to work on strengthening and toning my wrists and forearms specifically.

Can someone give me some detailed techniques and suggested reps/sets and weights to use? Right now I'm using 25lbs's.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=Forearms

[SheldonLevene]

I've got some free weight dumbbells and I'm looking to work on strengthening and toning my wrists and forearms specifically.

Can someone give me some detailed techniques and suggested reps/sets and weights to use? Right now I'm using 25lbs's.

There is some stuff on the previous page about just this.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

There is some stuff on the previous page about just this.

Plus tons of info through out the entire thread. :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Correct. I was getting a hell of a shoulder workout lol.

Do work son :up:

[TNC9852002]

Plus tons of info through out the entire thread. :up:
But there's 1,072 pages! :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

But there's 1,072 pages! :(

I know, it is a lot. But here is the thing, the more you know. The more efficiently you will be able to work out. The less time you will waste. The less you will get hurt. And you will also realize what a huge part of diet plays and what do and not to eat.

I mean I really don't know how much you know overall, so it may be unnecessary but it certainly won't hurt.

[Hush]

Man I had a killer Tri's and Chest wokr out expect 50's have offically become too light. Now i need to buy heavier dumbells. :(

[Manic]

Had a shoulder workout today. I'm trying to slowly move away from using machines, but I've found that I pretty much have to use that plated shrug* machine to do shrugs. I put 4 45lbs plates on the shrug machine (two on each side), and the machine apparently says it has 25 lbs of resistance tacked onto it without extra weights, but I'd likely hurt myself if I tried to get that much weight off of a dumbbell rack. I certainly can't curl that much weight, and I'm just short enough to need to half-way curl everything off of that rack. No wonder I always see people shorter than me in the gym, but only the bodybuilder/powerlifter-looking short people ever use the free weights.

Anyway, do you think I should try a barbell or something for shrugs?



*yes, I do shrugs on Shoulder day instead of Back day. It evens out the lengths of my workouts.

[Colossal Spoons]

Barbell shrugging is a lot easier than it looks. It's one of those exercises where you should just go ahead and try a weight and see if you can lift it(w/i reason, no hernias please)

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Barbell shrugging is a lot easier than it looks. It's one of those exercises where you should just go ahead and try a weight and see if you can lift it(w/i reason, no hernias please)

Or man pond's ;)

[Colossal Spoons]

manpon baby!

[The Original Bamfer]

manpon baby!

The one time I actually step into this thread, I see this... :down

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hahahaha! :up: is what you mean :D

[Colossal Spoons]

You missed all the rough and tough dumbbell talk :(

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey Spoon's are you deadlifting yet?

[Colossal Spoons]

Yes sir, just broke 400lbs this week.....not bad for a guy only eating 2200 calories a day :o

[SonikDeath]

What would you recommend for a skinny guy who has a fattish stomach ?

Do cardio and try and lose the stomach weight first then do weight training or

Do weight training first, then do cardio later after the muscles have gotten bigger ?

Thanks. :D

[Hush]

Yes sir, just broke 400lbs this week.....not bad for a guy only eating 2200 calories a day :o

Nice im stuck at 410 6 times due to lack of weight. I NEED TO BUY MORE. LOL

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, spend that cash!

As soon as I'm done dropping weight, I plan on flying through the 400s on deadlift :up:

[SheldonLevene]

Yeah, spend that cash!

As soon as I'm done dropping weight, I plan on flying through the 400s on deadlift :up:


Are you just trying to slim up Spoons, or are you straight up cutting?

[Colossal Spoons]

What would you recommend for a skinny guy who has a fattish stomach ?

Do cardio and try and lose the stomach weight first then do weight training or

Do weight training first, then do cardio later after the muscles have gotten bigger ?

Thanks. :D

All up to you. Which do you want more; muscles or a slim stomach?

Are you just trying to slim up Spoons, or are you straight up cutting?

Cutting. Trying to get to maybe 10% bodyfat.That should put me at around 215lbs.

[SheldonLevene]

All up to you. Which do you want more; muscles or a slim stomach?



Cutting. Trying to get to maybe 10% bodyfat.That should put me at around 215lbs.


I see. What's your current height/weight. The former isn't likely to change lol just curious.

[Colossal Spoons]

6 feet tall, weight about 235

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

What would you recommend for a skinny guy who has a fattish stomach ?

Do cardio and try and lose the stomach weight first then do weight training or

Do weight training first, then do cardio later after the muscles have gotten bigger ?

Thanks. :D

Eat about 2400 calories and keep the fat consumption to under 60g a day. IMHO. But eat lots of protein and hit the weights three days a week. :up:

Cadrio for 30-45 mins max 3-5 days a week. :up:

[Spider-Nerd]

- What are the benefits of using free weights?
- What are the benefits of using machines?
- What is the best of the two to build up/increase BULK?

(all of those questions are with diet aside)



1. Free weights will train all those mini stablizer muscles that no one sees but are super important to prevent injury and allow your bigger muscles to grow.

2. None. there are zero benefits to using a machine. Ever see a guy whose in great shape doing the pec deck, or using a curl machine? the answer is no. machines restrict you to one plane of motion, whereas in the real world when you lift a tv, or box you're normally moving in 2 or 3 at the same time. Training your muscles only to work in 1 plane at a time is a surefire way to easy injury.

3. Best two exercises? I hate to be limited to two. Squat, deadlift, bench, pull up, and military press. Don't do anything else if you're first starting out. And if you're not sure about form, don't be afraid to ask a meathead at your gym as most of us are eager to help a newbie. Also you can check bodybuilding.com for videos on how to perform the exercises. Happy lifting :)

[Cunning Stunts]

6 feet tall, weight about 235

You looked way taller than that. :wow:

[Colossal Spoons]

Probably the hair lol

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

1. Free weights will train all those mini stablizer muscles that no one sees but are super important to prevent injury and allow your bigger muscles to grow.

2. None. there are zero benefits to using a machine. Ever see a guy whose in great shape doing the pec deck, or using a curl machine? the answer is no. machines restrict you to one plane of motion, whereas in the real world when you lift a tv, or box you're normally moving in 2 or 3 at the same time. Training your muscles only to work in 1 plane at a time is a surefire way to easy injury.

3. Best two exercises? I hate to be limited to two. Squat, deadlift, bench, pull up, and military press. Don't do anything else if you're first starting out. And if you're not sure about form, don't be afraid to ask a meathead at your gym as most of us are eager to help a newbie. Also you can check bodybuilding.com for videos on how to perform the exercises. Happy lifting :)

I have to disagree with Spider-Nerd on a few accounts here but I will really only mention the machines.

Machines do have many benefits that Devil already mentioned. On top of those he mentioned, there are some more specific exercises you can do, such as adductor and abbductor muscles that help stabilize your thighs which can be easily missed with a free weights routine if not set up properly.

Also if you have suffered an injury machine are great for rehabilitation.

I would have to say that the bench press is very much an overrated exercise.

[titan101]

so guys, what songs help you get pumped for a workout ? " epic " by faith no more really helps me for one thing.

[Colossal Spoons]

Disturbed - The Night, Facade, Meaning of Life, Deify, Down With The Sickness, Stricken, Liberate, The Game

Drowning Pool - Bodies

Powerman 5000 - Drop The Bomshell, When Worlds Collide

[NotFadeAway]

Two more question from a nutrition idiot....

1) What are some healthy cereals.

2) Is fat free white bread any good?

[Colossal Spoons]

Two more question from a nutrition idiot....

1) What are some healthy cereals.

http://www.cascadianfarm.com/products/product_detail.aspx?cat=8&upc=0-21908-13335-5

2) Is fat free white bread any good?

For immediately post workout

[AndThePickles]

You looked way taller than that. :wow:

Haha, I told you neither of us are as tall as you thought!

[NotFadeAway]

http://www.cascadianfarm.com/products/product_detail.aspx?cat=8&upc=0-21908-13335-5



For immediately post workout

As always, thank you Colossal Spoons:yay:

[Colossal Spoons]

Np dude :up:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

so guys, what songs help you get pumped for a workout ? " epic " by faith no more really helps me for one thing.

l1llNYAlYrc
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[Hush]

Fantastic Work Out today. Love my shoulders routine.

[Havok83]

I just ran a Half Marathon in Long Branch, NJ and man are my legs sore, especially my calves. Its my second time doing this as I ran it last year too. Yeah theres alot of pain now which will last for the next few days, but it comes along with a great feeling of accomplishment. Im gonna go rest now bc I need it.

[mrvlknight21]

I just ran a Half Marathon in Long Branch, NJ and man are my legs sore, especially my calves. Its my second time doing this as I ran it last year too. Yeah theres alot of pain now which will last for the next few days, but it comes along with a great feeling of accomplishment. Im gonna go rest now bc I need it.

Great job. I have thought about doing a half marathon before. I can tell you that I will probably never think about a full marathon, but a half would be do-able, for me, with the proper training.

Something like this would be cool.
http://www.rnrsj.com/home.html

[Havok83]

Great job. I have thought about doing a half marathon before. I can tell you that I will probably never think about a full marathon, but a half would be do-able, for me, with the proper training.

Something like this would be cool.
http://www.rnrsj.com/home.html
thanks alot. The Half is intensive enough. I dont think I could handle a full one. I have tons of respect for those that are able to do it though

[mrvlknight21]

I agree totally.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

My brother in-law ran a half marathon a couple months back and he normally jogs five miles a day. Man was it killing him when he was done. He said he wouldn't run one again, but he is also almost 40.

So good stuff Havok, props bro. :up:

[mrvlknight21]

I just tried Purple Wraath for the 2nd time yesterday and WOW. It was working!
For those that dont know, PW is a mix of essential amino acids that you can take pre-workout and continue to take during the workout (mixes w/ water).

The first time I tried it, I felt like I could push a little more (without the lactic acid buildup) but not much else. But yesterday, I felt primed, got more reps than usual, skipped some of the normal rest periods and kept on going full force.

Its not like an N.O. product, in case you were wondering, but it appears to have some of the same qualities/effects.

Anyways, just passing that along.

[Colossal Spoons]

Interesting. I know PW stacks well with White Flood(Controlled Lab's NO product). I'll ask for a free sample of PW next time I order from bb.com :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Interesting. I know PW stacks well with White Flood(Controlled Lab's NO product). I'll ask for a free sample of PW next time I order from bb.com :up:

Yeah, I still have a sample of White Flood that I havent used. I would almost be scared to combine them! It would be like Superman w/ Thor's hammer and Cap's shield.

[Colossal Spoons]

Hahahaha. I tend to avoid "stacks" from the same company cuz it just looks like a way to suck $$ out of you. Look at BSN's stack, it's like almost every product they make :whatever:. But I have heard good things about Controlled Labs' stack. Same w/ Gaspari Nutrition's(SizeOn + Superpump250) I had a few "bowel" issues w/ Superpump though :O

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, I heard a lot of good about Controlled Labs myself.
Seriously, that workout yesterday usually kicks my ass.... I have thrown up 2x doing it and quit before finishing 2x as well. Yesterday, I flew threw it and with better numbers.

[mrvlknight21]

I think its time for a bigger avatar for me.
Anyone know the size limit for 3,000 posts?

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I heard a lot of good about Controlled Labs myself.
Seriously, that workout yesterday usually kicks my ass.... I have thrown up 2x doing it and quit before finishing 2x as well. Yesterday, I flew threw it and with better numbers.

Was it outdoors bodyweight stuff or BBs and DBs?

[mrvlknight21]

Was it outdoors bodyweight stuff or BBs and DBs?

bodyweight (but indoors!!).
There are a few weight moves (1 arm rows), but its mostly pushups and pullups.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I'd throw up too lol

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, I'd throw up too lol

It really is a tough one. The thing with me and this workout is, if I eat within 3 hours of doing it, I will throw up. But, if I dont eat, I get worn down and sometimes cant finish.

The Purple Wraath fixed that problem yesterday!

[Colossal Spoons]

I've only come close to throwing up after/during a workout a handful of times and it always involved deadlifting.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I think its time for a bigger avatar for me.
Anyone know the size limit for 3,000 posts?

No idea. But it is in FAQ :up: :D

[Colossal Spoons]

Thinkin about adding Behind-The-Back BB Shrugs to my back routine this week. My middle back sucks(top and bottom kick ass though).

[mrvlknight21]

No idea. But it is in FAQ :up: :D

Really?
I looked there before posting that and just looked again and I cant find ANYTHING.

[mrvlknight21]

Thinkin about adding Behind-The-Back BB Shrugs to my back routine this week. My middle back sucks(top and bottom kick ass though).

Yeah, those are pretty uncomfortable.
Do you use a hex bar/trap bar?

[Colossal Spoons]

Never done 'em before, gonna try em on Fri. Was just gonna use a BB, no hex bars at my gym. I should prob think about buying one and bringin it to the gym w/ me.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Devil

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=137235

[mrvlknight21]

Devil

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=137235

Awesome, thanks! :grin:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yup, looks like it has changed too. I no longer see the 6,000 post bench mark. :confused:

[Manic]

Yeah, they changed it a while back to (I think) accommodate the users who've been here a long time, but don't post as often as some of us.

[LastSunrise1981]

Had a great workout today when I went to the gym in the morning. We did triceps, biceps, abs, and closed it off with cardio today as part of my bodybuilding training. We all agreed that we would continue to change it up in order to continue shocking the muscles into change.

I knew I've made great progress when I ran into a friend at my job and she asked me "Have you lost weight?" I responded to her "Yep, lost 90lbs since I started working out a year ago." and she said "Oh, wow. I'm really proud of you. Congratulations."

Today was just an awesome fun workout with friends and I changed my cardio up by sprinting, then doing a brisk walk, and then continuing to sprint in order to burn calories more and keep my heart rate going.

[Knightsaber Priss]

Can anyone tell me whether or not there are any health benefits to joining a Martial Arts program? I've been contemplating it, since that's all I can do at the moment what with my surgery recovery. Okay, I do have ulterior motives, like having the ability to kick a frisky guy's butt and general self defense which I think I need, but just wonder if there are any more benefits to learning a martial art.

[Colossal Spoons]

You'll burn some calories I guess.

[mrvlknight21]

Can anyone tell me whether or not there are any health benefits to joining a Martial Arts program? I've been contemplating it, since that's all I can do at the moment what with my surgery recovery. Okay, I do have ulterior motives, like having the ability to kick a frisky guy's butt and general self defense which I think I need, but just wonder if there are any more benefits to learning a martial art.

Yes, there are health benefits. Along with the skill training (punching and kicking), Im sure you will be doing pushups, situps and other bodyweight moves.
Obviously you will become "more fit" by doing all of this (depending on your current level of fitness) and keeping the diet in check.

[Crazy Flakes]

Can anyone tell me whether or not there are any health benefits to joining a Martial Arts program? I've been contemplating it, since that's all I can do at the moment what with my surgery recovery. Okay, I do have ulterior motives, like having the ability to kick a frisky guy's butt and general self defense which I think I need, but just wonder if there are any more benefits to learning a martial art.
Oh, it's a blast! I've done everything from taekwondo to kickboxing, and they're all so much fun...and being able to kick some major ass is definitely a plus, I've got a mean right hook now :up:

But I don't have the time or money to do any lessons anymore or get gym memberships or anything, so I just do stuff that's free. There's a trail right near my house and a park with lots of mountains that's about 5 minutes away, so I mainly do running and walking during the week for around a half hour or so a day and then go for hikes that last two hours or more every weekend with decent weather (and more during the summer). And it works for sure, my butt looks pretty awesome :woot: I recommend it to anyone who's tight on cash.

[amazingfantasy15]

Going to try to get in a couple miles today. Completed my first marathon on Sunday and my legs seem to be starting to forgive and forget the pain I caused them.

[enterthemadness]

Hmmm..

I did 290 on the leg press today. Wanted to work out the legs more after shooting some hoops, but then was asked to play a couple of full court basketball games.

Tomorrow I am gonna try to get 160 bench press 5 times. It's my max, but I hardly do it. Usually warm up with 145. then do 3 sets of 5 of 150 and 155 for work out. Chest Machine..I can do 230 6 times. Do 3 sets of 6 with that. My warm up there is 210 and then do 3 set of 6 of 220.

And I need to fix my form on up right rows. When doing 25lbs on each side of the curl bar...I'm straining. Gonna try and fix that.

Amazing...are you crazy? How long was your marathon? Wouldn't you need like almost a week off from running to rest your legs 100%? I don't really run, just curious.

[Maximum Carnage]

My situation: I'm a (somewhat) fat college student (did I mention poor?) who spends all of his time either working or studying (and some Hypin', here and there ;]). Now that it's summer I have some free time.. and I really need to get in shape. I have access to a bicycle and I'm gonna start biking for 2 hours a day, for about 3/4 days a week. Is that a good way to start out? I need help! X_x;!

[Colossal Spoons]

Calories eaten < Calories burned = Weight Loss

Find out how many calories you eat and then figure out how much bike ridin you need to do :up:

[Crazy Flakes]

My situation: I'm a (somewhat) fat college student (did I mention poor?) who spends all of his time either working or studying (and some Hypin', here and there ;]). Now that it's summer I have some free time.. and I really need to get in shape. I have access to a bicycle and I'm gonna start biking for 2 hours a day, for about 3/4 days a week. Is that a good way to start out? I need help! X_x;!
Well, if you've been just sitting around all year then you should start small! Start out by taking 15-30 minute walks, then increase the speed, then start biking, hiking, running, benching, etc. at greater intensities for longer periods of time. Chances are if you just jump right in to heavy workouts you'll feel like you're gonna die the day after and then you'll fall off the bandwagon right away.