The Official Hype Fitness Thread

[mrvlknight21]

By the way, I wouldnt recommend using the Smith Machine for squats, or anything else for that matter.

Here are some reasons why:
According to Charles Poliquin:

Squatting to parallel (legs bent 90 degrees) not only makes the exercise less effective but, additionally, it increases the risk of injury. First of all, by not squatting the full range of motion, one doesn't maintain proper lumbosacral bodymechanics. When performing the squat movement, the sacrum undergoes a process known as nutation (it tilts forward, relative to the two ilia on either side of it). At approximately 90 degrees of knee bend, the sacrum tilts back (a process known as counternutation) and sets the lifter up for lower back pain.

In order to perform a full squat, flexibility and range of motion must be maintained in the lumbar spine and SI joint, as well as in such muscles as the iliopsoas and hip external rotators ? piriformis, gemelli, etc. If the lifter can't squat past 90 degrees of knee bend without the heels raising or the body bending excessively forward at the waist, but can squat all the way to the floor while holding onto something, we know that there are some muscle imbalances in regard to the pelvis/lumbosacral region (iliopsoas, external hip rotators, erector spinae) as opposed to a knee or foot/ankle dysfunction.

Additionally, since the hip joint is considered by many authors as the "steering mechanism for the leg," improper pelvis, hip, and lumbosacral mechanics could manifest down the kinetic chain as chronic or recurring knee/ankle problems. Thus, regular performance of the full squat offers a "screen" for the athlete of his or her lumbosacral/pelvic flexibility, which may prevent injury or muscle imbalances long before they become chronic.

Parallel squats also may be potentially damaging to the knee joint. The original data on full squats causing ligament laxity was obtained in an uncontrolled manner. Recent attempts to replicate these studies haven't shown any increased laxity or knee pain/dysfunction from doing full squats as opposed to parallel squats.

Furthermore, ask any orthopedic surgeon at what degree of knee bend does one perform the Drawer test ? 90 degrees. Why? Because in this position, the knee joint is the most unstable, and if you were trying to assess the integrity of the cruciate ligaments, you'd want the least amount of interference from other structures as possible. Bend the knee to full flexion. How much does the tibia move on the femur anteriorly or posteriorly? Very little. However, do the same test at 90 degrees of flexion, and you'll get considerably more movement.

Therefore, you can imagine how much force is on the knee ligaments if the athlete is descending with a weight on their shoulders, and then at 90 degrees ? the most unstable point ? reversing the momentum and accelerating in the exact opposite direction. Couple this with the fact that most, if not everyone, are capable of squatting considerably more weight to the parallel position than the full squat position, and you've set your body up for muscular imbalances, yet again.

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And from "Debunk the Chump! 5 Gym Myths Exposed" http://www.T-Nation.com/...05-069-training

The truth is that squatters usually have healthier knees than non-squatters. Studies on top powerlifters have shown that their knees are actually in better shape radiographically (X-rayed) than the general population. Squatters also have much tighter ACLs than nonlifters, meaning that their knees are more stable and less prone to injury.

The most glaring irony is that squats are often replaced with "safer" exercises such as hack squats and Smith machine movements. According to Dr. Ken Kinakin, the machine hack squat leads to more knee problems than the barbell free squat. And the Smith machine? Charles Poliquin once joked that it was invented by a physical therapist who wanted more business for himself!

What's wrong with the Smith? First, there's zero functional transfer to real life, sports or other lifts. It develops strength in only one dimension, predisposing you to injury in the undeveloped planes of movement. This is sometimes called pattern overload syndrome, and it can lead to medical bills in the long run.

Second, because the bar is fixed, a person doing Smith machine squats is able to lean against the bar, which is a natural response. This minimizes hip extension, thus allowing the hamstrings to take a siesta during the movement. Trouble is, the hamstrings help to stabilize the knee during squats, and the result of taking them out of the picture is to induce a shearing force on the joint. This might ultimately lead to a blown anterior cruciate ligament. Using the Smith machine for all your squatting definitely leads to you being a big fat dork.

Summary: As with any exercise, squats are perfectly safe if you use the correct technique, even safer than the "safe" machines misguided trainers sometimes prescribe to replace them!


Another, shorter article:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/henkin6ttt.htm

[Colossal Spoons]

^Physiology!

[enterthemadness]

Thigh machine?
Are you referring to leg extension?
And the machine that you can do squats and bench press on that you can turn the bar to rack it is called a Smith Machine.

I have done back and legs on the same day before. If thats what you want to do, try this rotation:
Do a big leg move (squats, leg press, hack squat), then a smaller leg move (leg extension, leg curls, GHR, or any calf exercise), then a back move (pullups, one arm rows, t-bar rows, or...of course...PULLUPS!). Keep rotating that setup for a while.

Good deal on the hoops.
What you said reminded me of a funny story of when I was playing in a Y league and there was a team made up of some ex- Div 1 players and even some guys who played pro overseas. Of course, they were the best in the league.
Well, at the time, my team had 3-4 div 2 college players on it, and so we were pretty decent.

Well, when we played this team they were pretty much killing us, so I decided to try and cut the lead some by just shooting 3s. I hit 3-4 in a row and one guy from the other team, who played pro overseas said "Hey man, youve got a nice touch."

I told him to F&*^% Off immediately. He gave me a weird look and I said "Dude, you have scored about 50 points on us (he really had) and youre telling me nice touch after a couple of 3s? Give me a break."
He looked at me for a minute...then just laughed and laughed. I guess he got my point.

Machine that works out your thighs all I know.

I dislike pullups. But..that is because I'm weak at them. I used this one machine there. We have 3 machine like together there and there's a chart. I sat down facing the machine...and...knees were under the pads...and there's this bar up hanging...and you grab it with both arms and pull down. Which one is that?

That's funny. When I shoot ball I mostly shoot 3'd or do hook shots or reverse lay ups or just shoot 2's. I be better if I wasn't driving to the basket firing or shooting 3's while on the drive or dribble. But hey, I sweat doing that and it's a time killer. Some of this comes off as me having no one to get the rebound so I jog over and then just launching some 3's. The last basket I made was a 3. I was on the dribble going to the baseline and I jumped and fired a 3. Landed out of bounds and it was nothing but net...not net as it hit the net, it went in nothing but net. I made another shot at a tough angle. I shot a 3 from the same baseline at a angle, so I might have been out of bounds when I shot it, but I got it to go in. I like shooting them on the dribble baseline shots. I'm moving in the air as I fire due to my monmetum.

[mrvlknight21]

Machine that works out your thighs all I know.

I dislike pullups. But..that is because I'm weak at them. I used this one machine there. We have 3 machine like together there and there's a chart. I sat down facing the machine...and...knees were under the pads...and there's this bar up hanging...and you grab it with both arms and pull down. Which one is that?

That's funny. When I shoot ball I mostly shoot 3'd or do hook shots or reverse lay ups or just shoot 2's. I be better if I wasn't driving to the basket firing or shooting 3's while on the drive or dribble. But hey, I sweat doing that and it's a time killer. Some of this comes off as me having no one to get the rebound so I jog over and then just launching some 3's. The last basket I made was a 3. I was on the dribble going to the baseline and I jumped and fired a 3. Landed out of bounds and it was nothing but net...not net as it hit the net, it went in nothing but net. I made another shot at a tough angle. I shot a 3 from the same baseline at a angle, so I might have been out of bounds when I shot it, but I got it to go in. I like shooting them on the dribble baseline shots. I'm moving in the air as I fire due to my monmetum.


Is this the "thigh machine" that you are referring to?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XcVxzv_DBU


Man, I really want you to learn to properly identify equipment and the various exercises. It would really help, because then you can speak intelligently about it and outline a proper program using the correct terms.
That way, instead of "I did 3 sets of 10 on this leg machine thingy"
You can say
3 sets of 10 on the leg curl machine at a weight of 100.
Next week, attempt to go for 110.
You see what I mean?
Im not making fun of you, I swear. I just think it will help you in your training and when you talk to people about your routine, both on here, and in person.

As far as the pullup machine, you are referring to the lat pulldown machine. If you look at these charts, surely they have the name of the machine listed somewhere.
Seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMC48BO-GQE


That is ok as a supplemental back exercise. But there is nothing that beats pullups. Everyone is weak at them until they start doing them. You can ask several of the guys on here, I gave some programs that can really make you dominate that move.

Its quite impressive to get a good number on them, it develops the back faster than any other exercise and it has practical applications (aka its functional). Definitely get busy doing them and you will be amazed at your increase in strength!
I can give you a program to help you out if you want, just let me know.

[enterthemadness]

Is this the "thigh machine" that you are referring to?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XcVxzv_DBU


Man, I really want you to learn to properly identify equipment and the various exercises. It would really help, because then you can speak intelligently about it and outline a proper program using the correct terms.
That way, instead of "I did 3 sets of 10 on this leg machine thingy"
You can say
3 sets of 10 on the leg curl machine at a weight of 100.
Next week, attempt to go for 110.
You see what I mean?
Im not making fun of you, I swear. I just think it will help you in your training and when you talk to people about your routine, both on here, and in person.

As far as the pullup machine, you are referring to the lat pulldown machine. If you look at these charts, surely they have the name of the machine listed somewhere.
Seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMC48BO-GQE


That is ok as a supplemental back exercise. But there is nothing that beats pullups. Everyone is weak at them until they start doing them. You can ask several of the guys on here, I gave some programs that can really make you dominate that move.

Its quite impressive to get a good number on them, it develops the back faster than any other exercise and it has practical applications (aka its functional). Definitely get busy doing them and you will be amazed at your increase in strength!
I can give you a program to help you out if you want, just let me know.

Sure, I'm more serious about weights than I was in the past. How many days would I be doing pullups? Upper body days or just lower body/back days? Also the pull up machine/dips is assisted.

Like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwwlc8xUJDE

So, use the pad I put my knees on or do it the hard way? Cause when I do dips, I do those the hard way.

[mrvlknight21]

Sure, I'm more serious about weights than I was in the past. How many days would I be doing pullups? Upper body days or just lower body/back days? Also the pull up machine/dips is assisted.

Like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwwlc8xUJDE

So, use the pad I put my knees on or do it the hard way? Cause when I do dips, I do those the hard way.

Was that the "thigh machine" that you referred to in the first video that I linked?

You can do the pullup stuff various ways. How often are you able to get to a pullup bar? How many true pullups can you get right now?

[enterthemadness]

Was that the "thigh machine" that you referred to in the first video that I linked?

You can do the pullup stuff various ways. How often are you able to get to a pullup bar? How many true pullups can you get right now?

Nah. It's this machine where you sit down and put your thighs inbtween two pads.

I go to the rec like 6 days a week since I quit Walmart. Working out and waiting to hear from LA Film School. If that doesn't work out and I have to find a job, I might have to go to the dreaded 3-day full body workouts. I could probably do 5-10.

I might stay up tonight and watch Transformers on dvd. I make sure I work out tomorrow, even if I do it after dinner. Only problem with that is I may no get in any hoops.

[enterthemadness]

http://www.bodysolidequipment.com/images/Pro-Dual%20Inner%20Thigh-Ourter%20Thigh.jpg

Similar to that, except without the hot woman with the red top on. Also, I ain't gonna lie, I can be lazy. I do a decent job there by myself...If I was at a gym and not a rec, I probably go with a trainer...just so I have spotter and someone to keep me going.

[Colossal Spoons]

ETM, you've attracted the pullup beast :p

[enterthemadness]

ETM, you've attracted the pullup beast :p

If you can't do at least 60 in a minute or less, you ain't no beast.

How are you?

[mrvlknight21]

Nah. It's this machine where you sit down and put your thighs inbtween two pads.

I go to the rec like 6 days a week since I quit Walmart. Working out and waiting to hear from LA Film School. If that doesn't work out and I have to find a job, I might have to go to the dreaded 3-day full body workouts. I could probably do 5-10.

I might stay up tonight and watch Transformers on dvd. I make sure I work out tomorrow, even if I do it after dinner. Only problem with that is I may no get in any hoops.

If you mean one of these....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-ETl4OyLY
I would suggest you go ahead and drop that like a bad habit. At the most, that should be a supplemental exercise, done after you have completed your compound movements (squats, deadlifts, etc).

5-10 pullups? There is a pretty big gap there. Give it a go when you have some time and let me know.

In the meantime, one of the BEST programs for improving pullups is "grease the groove"
Basically its like this. Throughout the day, you do lower rep sets (every hour if possible).

Example: if you can do 5 good reps, you would do 1 set of 3-4 every hour for like 5 days. Now, things happen and you may get your reps at 8, 9, 10am and then nothing til 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm and then 7pm, 8pm. Thats fine. Just realize it only takes a few seconds to get 3-4 reps and you can do them on anything that you can hang from-tree branch, scaffolding, pullup bar, etc etc. Try to get at least 10 sets a day.

Anyways, do this for 5 days then rest on day 6 and test yourself on day 7.
Repeat this for 2-3 weeks. Dont do any other back exercise durig that time.

I can attest to GTG working and so ca JStorm.
It took me from 12 to 20 and took him from 5 to 10.

Here is another program that is supposed to be very good but I have no personal experience with it.
http://twentypullups.com/

Lastly, if you only want to work pullups 2-3 times a week, then do ladders.
do 1 rep, rest, 2 reps, rest...up to almost your max...then come back down the ladder...3 reps, rest, 2 reps, rest, 1 rep.

Vary your grip positions for some new challenges as well.
Remember, with pullups, your palms face away from you.
Go wide, narrow, chinups, commando, etc

[mrvlknight21]

If you can't do at least 60 in a minute or less, you ain't no beast.

How are you?

Youre crazy....60 in a minute!!?!?!?
I can get 60 pushups in a minute though.

[Colossal Spoons]

If you can't do at least 60 in a minute or less, you ain't no beast.

How are you?

Haha, I was talkin 'bout mrvlknight

a) I'm fine, bout to go to bed
b) I do as many sets/reps as I need to to get 25 pullups on back day

[mrvlknight21]

Haha, I was talkin 'bout mrvlknight

a) I'm fine, bout to go to bed
b) I do as many sets/reps as I need to to get 25 pullups on back day

25???
Thats the warmup down here bro!
Come see me Spoons, I have some gifts for you.

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm workin my way up to usin that weight belt! :cmad:

[mrvlknight21]

I'm workin my way up to usin that weight belt! :cmad:

Good!

[enterthemadness]

If you mean one of these....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X-ETl4OyLY
I would suggest you go ahead and drop that like a bad habit. At the most, that should be a supplemental exercise, done after you have completed your compound movements (squats, deadlifts, etc).

5-10 pullups? There is a pretty big gap there. Give it a go when you have some time and let me know.

In the meantime, one of the BEST programs for improving pullups is "grease the groove"
Basically its like this. Throughout the day, you do lower rep sets (every hour if possible).

Example: if you can do 5 good reps, you would do 1 set of 3-4 every hour for like 5 days. Now, things happen and you may get your reps at 8, 9, 10am and then nothing til 1pm, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm and then 7pm, 8pm. Thats fine. Just realize it only takes a few seconds to get 3-4 reps and you can do them on anything that you can hang from-tree branch, scaffolding, pullup bar, etc etc. Try to get at least 10 sets a day.

Anyways, do this for 5 days then rest on day 6 and test yourself on day 7.
Repeat this for 2-3 weeks. Dont do any other back exercise durig that time.

I can attest to GTG working and so ca JStorm.
It took me from 12 to 20 and took him from 5 to 10.

Here is another program that is supposed to be very good but I have no personal experience with it.
http://twentypullups.com/

Lastly, if you only want to work pullups 2-3 times a week, then do ladders.
do 1 rep, rest, 2 reps, rest...up to almost your max...then come back down the ladder...3 reps, rest, 2 reps, rest, 1 rep.

Vary your grip positions for some new challenges as well.
Remember, with pullups, your palms face away from you.
Go wide, narrow, chinups, commando, etc

Ah...I buy one of those pullup bars at Walmart. What is commando? Ain't doing them while naked if that's what you mean. I drop the inner thigh machine like abad habit. I start doing Squats at the rec this week. How do I do dead lifts? Liek do I use any bar or what? And since I am getting serious about working out....some after work out meal questions.

Is it too much to sometimes eat two cans of salmon after a upper body workout? Cause I will at least eat one on a couple of wheat bread sandwhiches. And what's the best CHEAP protein shake or shake mix to buy? I know I've said I am all natural...no protein bars or shakes...but...hey, if it can help me put on muscle faster, I might as well do it.

Youre crazy....60 in a minute!!?!?!?
I can get 60 pushups in a minute though.

:o and Superman wins.

[enterthemadness]

Haha, I was talkin 'bout mrvlknight

a) I'm fine, bout to go to bed
b) I do as many sets/reps as I need to to get 25 pullups on back day

That's good, bout to watch Transformers on dvd soon. Then get some sleep and work out after dinner tomorrow.

[Manic]

Oh look. I've stumbled into a pullup discussion.

*is still using the assisted machine*

I remember reading somewhere that if you want to improve in an exercise quickly, then you should do only 1 set of that exercise every day. Can anyone back that up, or will that risk over-training?

[mrvlknight21]

Oh look. I've stumbled into a pullup discussion.

*is still using the assisted machine*

I remember reading somewhere that if you want to improve in an exercise quickly, then you should do only 1 set of that exercise every day. Can anyone back that up, or will that risk over-training?

Look at what I posted above to enterthemadness. It will give you ways to improve the pullups.
1 set of anything will not get you to the point of overtraining.

[mrvlknight21]

Ah...I buy one of those pullup bars at Walmart. What is commando? Ain't doing them while naked if that's what you mean. I drop the inner thigh machine like abad habit. I start doing Squats at the rec this week. How do I do dead lifts? Liek do I use any bar or what? And since I am getting serious about working out....some after work out meal questions.

Is it too much to sometimes eat two cans of salmon after a upper body workout? Cause I will at least eat one on a couple of wheat bread sandwhiches. And what's the best CHEAP protein shake or shake mix to buy? I know I've said I am all natural...no protein bars or shakes...but...hey, if it can help me put on muscle faster, I might as well do it.

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Which pullup bar @ walmart are you referring to?
The Irongym is a fairly good one that you can put in the doorway and take down in a matter of 2 seconds. Wal-mart, CVS, Walgreens and Bed, bath and beyond sell them for $25-30. You dont have to screw anything into your door frame either.

Deadlifts are fairly simple. Essentially you are just picking the bar up off the floor and setting it back down (with proper form of course).
Here's a vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbHKP7Q_Isc

Whatever you do...DONT DO THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ySblouCKs
(I am ROFL over seeing that, even though I have seen it at least 10 times).

Commando pullups, go to about 50 seconds into this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPKGc8OZqLw
This guy calls them "side pulls"

As far as protein powder, there are plenty of affordable options out there. I dont know if you have a Sam's Club near you, but they sell large size EAS brand protein very cheap. Online, www.bodybuilding.com has the best prices on the good stuff, even after shipping.
Its really not as expensive as you think, you just have to break it down into servings.

For example, if you pay 30 bucks for a 2 gallon tub. That may seem like a lot for a bucket of powder, but take a look at the servings on the side.
If you can get 45 servings out of that tub (for example), then you just paid 66 cents for each protein packed serving. Heck, you can barely get a coke for that these days and this is something your body needs after a workout!
If you workout 5 days a week, this would cover your needs for 9 weeks...for $30! Thats $3.33 a week! If you drop ONE fast food meal per week, you can EASILY afford this. Get my point?

The brand that Spoons and I both love is called Optimum Nutrition, also known as ON. They are always picked as one of the best tasting ones, with protein that is rated as very high on the quality level as well. Good news is, they arent very expensive. Bodybuilding.com and GNC are 2 places to find that one (its not @ wal-mart).

I really wouldnt bother with the protein bars. Most of them are packed with sugar and I havent found many that taste very good (despite the sugar content).

Salmon is good, obviously. 2 cans of it on wheat bread after a workout? I dont know if I could do that everyday....but honestly, thats not a bad post workout meal.
Remember, you can gain plenty fo muscle and strength without ever using any protein powder. This is just a very convenient way to quickly get those valued nutrients into your system after a workout. Whey protein is the one that is absorbed fasted into your bloodstream, making it the best one for post workout drinks.

There is obviously more to it than this, but find some whey protein and mix it with water, milk or juice (I dont like water with any of mine) within 30min-1 hr after your workout.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

When doing push ups, or any exercise for my arms and chest, when should I get my protein? Before the exercises, or after? Also, how long after having a source of protein should I be good to exercise before needing more protein?

[mrvlknight21]

When doing push ups, or any exercise for my arms and chest, when should I get my protein? Before the exercises, or after? Also, how long after having a source of protein should I be good to exercise before needing more protein?

As stated above
There is obviously more to it than this, but find some whey protein and mix it with water, milk or juice (I dont like water with any of mine) within 30min-1 hr after your workout.

Some people also recommend ingesting some protein about an hour before your workout as well. I dont really do this, but a lot of bodybuilders do.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Thanks.

I've seen the whey before, but I was always cautious about it since I've been told if you don't do anything with it. you'll end up with lots of fat. What I'd like to do is harden my chest. We have a bowflex, and I do the chest fly exercise as well as the aforementioned push-ups. Is there any other exercise you'd recommend?

[mrvlknight21]

No, whey protein will not cause you to get fat. Only the weight gainer powders can do that.
Whey protein is low in calories, high in protein and actually helps a lot of people drop weight (by having it instead of a fat filled breakfast, for example), even if they are not exercising.

I wont say too much about the Bowflex, because you can get results from it, but I think it is an overpriced, inferior product.
There are a TON of chest exercises you can do it that Im sure (flyes, various angles of bench press, etc).

Pushups are great (I am a big bodyweight exercise fan), but wont BUILD your chest the way that most resistance exercises will. So, it really depends on your goals. If you want a large, muscular chest, I say get on some free weights (or the Bowflex in your case)and get plenty of protein and clean food.

Dips are a great exercise for the chest (and triceps).
If you lean forward into them, it hits the chest a bit more, if you stay straight up, it focuses on the triceps more. I highly recommend them.

Hope this helps!

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I will give them all a try. Its just that I have...eh...moobs. I'm not overweight or anything; I'm 5 foot 6 and weigh 125. Just looking for ways to eh...get it looking normal.

Again, thanks for the suggestions. :)

[Colossal Spoons]

I freakin' love dips!

[mrvlknight21]

I will give them all a try. Its just that I have...eh...moobs. I'm not overweight or anything; I'm 5 foot 6 and weigh 125. Just looking for ways to eh...get it looking normal.

Again, thanks for the suggestions. :)

Yeah man
Lean out with the protein and tighten up with some chest exercises and you should be fine.

EDIT:
Make sure you are working thw whole body, not just the chest. Your results will suffer and you could cause a counterbalance in strength and get injured if you are not working the whole body.
You can certainly focus on the chest a little more, but work that back and legs, etc etc.

[Colossal Spoons]

Giving front squats a try today. Hear they really target that quad muscle near the kneecap :up:

[mrvlknight21]

Giving front squats a try today. Hear they really target that quad muscle near the kneecap :up:

Thats a fact Spoons. Good exercise.

I changed my sig so I wont have to repeat some of the things I typed a book about on here!

[Colossal Spoons]

Nice idea for a glossary lol

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

What are you referring to as "technique plates"?
Do you mean bumper plates?

Yes, bumper plates/technique plates. I really haven't seen anything less than $300-$600 per plate.

[mrvlknight21]

Yes, bumper plates/technique plates. I really haven't seen anything less than $300-$600 per plate.

WHAT??!??!!?!?!?
No man, Wright rubber sells good ones that cost NOWHERE near that amount.
I have 100lbs of bumpers myself, I got them off craigslist fairly cheap.

Yeah Wright rubber has them for about $1.25 per pound (before shipping costs). There are others out there as well.

In fact, they offer a 260 pound set and a good Olympic bar for $650!

http://www.wrightexercise.com/wright-rubber-c-84.html

Keep in mind, if you get a few, you can use smaller iron weight to add on, since the bumpers will still be the only thing hitting the floor (since they are much larger). For example, just get 2 45lb rubber plates, then use smaller iron plates, that would save a lot of money right there.

There are others like newyorkbarbells and whatnot, but they are $2-3 a pound.


You could always make a set out of tires...like this:
http://www.truveo.com/bumper-plates/id/180144015967784326

There is a plan somewhere on how to do that...once I find it, I will post it.

[mrvlknight21]

Here it is:
Pretty dang sweet if you ask me!
http://www.straighttothebar.com/2007/09/how_to_make_your_own_bumper_pl.html

[enterthemadness]

I had a so-so workout. Didn't get in any basketball or bench press. It was a bit busy there today. I need to drop weight on the curlbar. I can't get 25lbs pds on each side (which is 50 total) no more than 2 or 3 reps. Warmup is 3 sets of 6 at 20 on each side. Gonna replace the 25's with two 10's and a 2.5. Maybe that way I can get 3 sets of 6 outta it.

What's a good forearm exercise? And how many reps should I do?I tried sitting down the last two upper body days and working out the forearms with 25lbs and today 35lbs dumbells. Do I just sit down and with my hand with the weight resting on my knee slightly curl it or what?

I be doing squats tomorrow. I haven't done that **** since highschool, 3 years ago. I weigh 128.8, so would 135lbs be too much starting out?

:o and I just had two cans of salmon...well, gave a tiny piece to one of my cats, but I ate the rest of it.

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Yes, bumper plates/technique plates. I really haven't seen anything less than $300-$600 per plate.

WHAT??!??!!?!?!?
No man, Wright rubber sells good ones that cost NOWHERE near that amount.
I have 100lbs of bumpers myself, I got them off craigslist fairly cheap.

Yeah Wright rubber has them for about $1.25 per pound (before shipping costs). There are others out there as well.

In fact, they offer a 260 pound set and a good Olympic bar for $650!

http://www.wrightexercise.com/wright-rubber-c-84.html

Keep in mind, if you get a few, you can use smaller iron weight to add on, since the bumpers will still be the only thing hitting the floor (since they are much larger). For example, just get 2 45lb rubber plates, then use smaller iron plates, that would save a lot of money right there.

There are others like newyorkbarbells and whatnot, but they are $2-3 a pound.


You could always make a set out of tires...like this:
http://www.truveo.com/bumper-plates/id/180144015967784326

There is a plan somewhere on how to do that...once I find it, I will post it.

Cool. Thanks Devil, I'll read up on that stuff for sure. Because the 24 hours near be doesn't even have a power rack! :mad: How the hell do you not have a power rack and call yourself a gym! :mad:

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Hey Devil do you have your own platform set up or lifting surface or how do you do it at home?

[mrvlknight21]

Hey Devil do you have your own platform set up or lifting surface or how do you do it at home?

24 hour fitness type of gyms rarely have anything like that. Many of them discourage deadlifting and dont allow any olympic lifts.

I just use my power rack for all that kind of stuff actually.

[mrvlknight21]

By the way, I found those instructions for making bumpers out of tires.
http://www.straighttothebar.com/2007...bumper_pl.html

There is another way to do it, but I cant find those plans at the moment.

[LastSunrise1981]

Had a really, really great workout today. I was really into it and it helped that the manager had some awesome metal/classic rock playing too.

As I stated on the previous pages I've started a MySpace Fitness account that has diet advice, workout tips, quotes from great bodybuilders such as Arnold, and of course details the course of my journey when it comes to my workout as well. It's a work in progress and I'm hoping this prospect of networking fitness wise will open some doors for me.

For those that are interested the myspace link is www.myspace.com/fitnessnation.

As for my workout today I did my biceps, shoulders, triceps, back, abs, and in order to do something different I did my cardio first.

Now either Saturday or Sunday it'll just be legs, abs, and possibly cardio. I never know what I'll do since I never have a specific workout planned. It's all done on the fly and I like it that way since it keeps things fresh.

[squeekness]

As far as protein powder, there are plenty of affordable options out there. I dont know if you have a Sam's Club near you, but they sell large size EAS brand protein very cheap. Online, www.bodybuilding.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com) has the best prices on the good stuff, even after shipping.
Its really not as expensive as you think, you just have to break it down into servings.

For example, if you pay 30 bucks for a 2 gallon tub. That may seem like a lot for a bucket of powder, but take a look at the servings on the side.
If you can get 45 servings out of that tub (for example), then you just paid 66 cents for each protein packed serving. Heck, you can barely get a coke for that these days and this is something your body needs after a workout!
If you workout 5 days a week, this would cover your needs for 9 weeks...for $30! Thats $3.33 a week! If you drop ONE fast food meal per week, you can EASILY afford this. Get my point?


This is the brand that I use myself and it's made a very big difference in my life. I began using the whey protien when I was complaining to my Physical Therapist about constant fatigue. I have mild to moderate arthritis in my hips, shoulders and hands. It was giving me a lot of trouble so I've been on a muscle strengthening program. In less than a week of taking the protien I saw a remarkable drop in my fatigue levels. It's no surprise really, the whey protien is given to cancer and AIDS patients to help boost both muscle and bone growth. It also boosts the immune system and promotes healthy good cholesterol levels. How do I know this? I simply Googled it and was happy with what I found. With less fatigue came signifigantly less pain. I am getting a lot more out of my exercise routine and I won't stop using the whey powder. I use one scoop (30grams protien) in my cereal before I work out and it's really helped. Plus I am less hungry during the day. It has the consistancy of cake flour so it blends well in milk or juice. The EAS brand powder comes in vanilla and chocolate, I use the vanilla because it goes better with everything. I would strongly recommend it to anyone who suffers as I do or if they want a nice lean source of protien. :D

[Colossal Spoons]

EAS' Myoplex was the first protein I ever bought :heart:

[squeekness]

I was doubious at first when my therapist was saying I probably wasn't getting enough protien and I wanted it from a lean source. Imagine my surprise when in a matter of days of taking the whey powder I felt so much better. I wasn't so dead dog tired and was eager to work out in the gym. :)

[Prison Mike]

I was doubious at first when my therapist was saying I probably wasn't getting enough protien and I wanted it from a lean source. Imagine my surprise when in a matter of days of taking the whey powder I felt so much better. I wasn't so dead dog tired and was eager to work out in the gym. :)

this sounds like a testimonial...:oldrazz:

[squeekness]

I'm a walking whey protien ad. :p It's just that when you've dealt with chronic pain as I have, anything that makes you feel much better is worth going on about. :D

[Prison Mike]

I bought whey protein the other week and I tried it mixing it with milk but it just tasted awful. I'm going to try again but this time use a blender so it's mixed properly

[squeekness]

Mine blends just fine. I just had some in my peach V8 juice and it tasted just like Orange Julius. :D

[Prison Mike]

mine is chocolate so it can't really mix with everything like vanilla does

[AndThePickles]

I bought whey protein the other week and I tried it mixing it with milk but it just tasted awful. I'm going to try again but this time use a blender so it's mixed properly

Some protein powders just taste awful, period. The only one I've tried and thought tasted great is Muscle Milk. A lot of people rave about ON protein (and with good reason, for the amount of protein for the money), but the taste made me nauseous :csad:

[enterthemadness]

I shot some hoops before working out legs and back. Made some 3's...esp deep ones, a couple from out of bounds, and nearly one from half court. Drilled them. Beautiful.

I hit the squat machine for the first time in 3 years....wow, my hamstrings. Got 135 and 140 3 sets of 5. Try for 145 Sunday. Did the seated leg press and the back machine, too. I'm a check next week sometime for the Whey portien mix at Walmart. Is that kind good for you?

[Prison Mike]

Some protein powders just taste awful, period. The only one I've tried and thought tasted great is Muscle Milk. A lot of people rave about ON protein (and with good reason, for the amount of protein for the money), but the taste made me nauseous :csad:

the brand I have is Designer Whey Protein. I've tried Muscle Milk and liked it and I was using it for about a month. Then when I moved back home, I couldn't find any small containers (they only had these HUGE containers at the local GNC) so I settled with Designer. It's not bad but not my first choice. I'm trying to find some recipies online so it won't taste awful. I want to be big and strong!

[mrvlknight21]

Some protein powders just taste awful, period. The only one I've tried and thought tasted great is Muscle Milk. A lot of people rave about ON protein (and with good reason, for the amount of protein for the money), but the taste made me nauseous :csad:

You may want to try another flavor. Muscle Milk does taste good, its because is has more sugar and fat than most of the ones out there.

[AndThePickles]

I know, I've compared ingredients. I could stand to gain a little fat, so I don't mind the extra fat, for now. Once I get more of a "hardcore" mentality towards weightlifting, I'm sure I'll switch to a different protein lol.

[mrvlknight21]

I know, I've compared ingredients. I could stand to gain a little fat, so I don't mind the extra fat, for now. Once I get more of a "hardcore" mentality towards weightlifting, I'm sure I'll switch to a different protein lol.

Yeah, if thats your situation then stick with what tastes best to you.

[Blackman]

I have this huge problem
Unfortunetly this summer I cant get in a gym
and
I dont have money to buy dumbells, etc.

Are there any easy at home/on the road exercises besides push up or dips that would actually help me build muscle with the help of whey?

[Nightmare]

Load up on Protein :up:

[squeekness]

I must be lucky or something. My friend gave me a bag of whey protien, just regular ole, from GNC that she paid $15 for a measly one pound bag. It tasted just fine and I felt good after eating it. When that ran out, I bought the EAS big five pound bag for a much more reasonable $32 at BJs (it's like Sam's Club) and it not only tasted exactly the same (both were vanilla flavored), it worked just as well. That's all I buy now. I don't know what nasty whey you guys were eating, but the EAS is wonderful. I have heard that soy protien can taste nasty and I can see that as I have disliked every soy product I have ever sampled. :(

[Manic]

This thread has me looking up EAS. It looks like they only make chocolate and vanilla flavors. I'm way too into ON's Cookies & Cream to give it up.

[squeekness]

That's the only two flavors I've seen at BJs so I am not surprised. The vanilla suits me fine as I mix it in my cereal each morning, or in milk. :) Taylor Kitsch loves this stuff:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/squeekness/guys/68y9v6.jpg

It is a whey product also and comes in a wide vareity of flavors. :)

[Prison Mike]

so I tried some whey protein again today and it was much better. This time I decided to mix it with a blender. I blended 2 scoops of chocolate whey protein, milk, ice, and 2 teaspoons of instant coffee. It tasted just like cold coffee! I was full after only 1 glass though.

[Spider-Nerd]

I know, I've compared ingredients. I could stand to gain a little fat, so I don't mind the extra fat, for now. Once I get more of a "hardcore" mentality towards weightlifting, I'm sure I'll switch to a different protein lol.

fat doesn't make you fat. Too many calories make you fat.:yay:

[Spider-Nerd]

I have this huge problem
Unfortunetly this summer I cant get in a gym
and
I dont have money to buy dumbells, etc.

Are there any easy at home/on the road exercises besides push up or dips that would actually help me build muscle with the help of whey?

push ups, squat thrusts, squats. Oh, go buy the perfect pull up. Yes I know it sounds ghey, but if you can't afford a gym, it's worth it.

[Manic]

Don't some people use stuff like playground jungle-gyms to work out? Lots of bars to pull up and dip from, not to mention swing sets and slides. The swing sets and slides aren't important, but even as an adult I can't resist a good swing or slide.

[mrvlknight21]

push ups, squat thrusts, squats. Oh, go buy the perfect pull up. Yes I know it sounds ghey, but if you can't afford a gym, it's worth it.

No, dont do that.
If you want a pullup bar that you can use at home and/or on the road, then get the Irongym or something similar (many companies makes ones just like it).
You have to screw the perfect pullup into your door frame, so other than at your house, it would be worthless. Plus it costs more than the irongym.

[mrvlknight21]

I have this huge problem
Unfortunetly this summer I cant get in a gym
and
I dont have money to buy dumbells, etc.

Are there any easy at home/on the road exercises besides push up or dips that would actually help me build muscle with the help of whey?

Can you afford $50 for a set of gymnastic rings? They make all those upper body exercises much more challenging and fun as well.
For legs, include some plyo work along with the usual squats, lunges and all.
You can always make a sandbag for about $20 and use it for almost everything you can use a barbell for (adding weight to squats, lunges, use it for overhead presses, curls, cleans, etc etc etc-like I said just about any barbell move you can replicate with this).

Here is a link on how to make a sandbag.
http://www.rosstraining.com/sandbagconstructionkit.pdf
(I used this to make mine)
Check army surplus stores and goodwill type stores for the bag and be sure to get the correct thickness for the interior bags, or you could have a mess on your hands. Also, no need to buy sand....just go to a playground and scoop it up!

Another idea is a backpack with weight (using nearly anything). I use one for weighted pullups, dips, pushups and all. You probably have a backpack lying around somewhere.

[squeekness]

Stealing playgound sand, for shame! :p Think about the kiddies!

[DV8]

so I really need to get back into shape . . . I work in a cubicle farm, and I always go through these cycles of being real fit and healthy, but then always gradually slip back into bad habits . . . and before I know it, I'm fat again Lol

I'm 5'9" and weighed myself last Tuesday and I was 232lbs. :( I should ideally be about 180lbs. I'm thinking . . . .

anyway, this whole weak I've been on a severe calorie deficit and I feel good!!! Already seeing some changes . . . it's crazy how your body burns like a locomotive when it's deprived . . . .

I weighed myself today, and I weighed 222lbs . . . of course I'm sure some of that is water weight, but I feel like I'm back on the road to being fit again!

[enterthemadness]

so I really need to get back into shape . . . I work in a cubicle farm, and I always go through these cycles of being real fit and healthy, but then always gradually slip back into bad habits . . . and before I know it, I'm fat again Lol

I'm 5'9" and weighed myself last Tuesday and I was 232lbs. :( I should ideally be about 180lbs. I'm thinking . . . .

anyway, this whole weak I've been on a severe calorie deficit and I feel good!!! Already seeing some changes . . . it's crazy how your body burns like a locomotive when it's deprived . . . .

I weighed myself today, and I weighed 222lbs . . . of course I'm sure some of that is water weight, but I feel like I'm back on the road to being fit again!

That's good. Do you have time for cardio or weights after work?

[DV8]

That's good. Do you have time for cardio or weights after work?

yeah, next week I plan on hitting the cardio hard; I will increase my daily caloric intake so that I have enough energy for exercies, but still gonna be cutting hard . . . to be honest this week I was a little run down because I made such severe cuts, and right after the fat holiday weekend Lol

I tried to consume not much over 1000 calories per day . . . almost to the degree of a starvation diet

of all the 'diets' out there, calorie managing makes the most sense to me; it's basic math when you break it down, really . . .

[enterthemadness]

yeah, next week I plan on hitting the cardio hard; I will increase my daily caloric intake so that I have enough energy for exercies, but still gonna be cutting hard . . . to be honest this week I was a little run down because I made such severe cuts, and right after the fat holiday weekend Lol

I tried to consume not much over 1000 calories per day . . . almost to the degree of a starvation diet

of all the 'diets' out there, calorie managing makes the most sense to me; it's basic math when you break it down, really . . .

1,000? I would go with 1,500 calories. But I don't know much about nutrition, but Spoons and MKnight do.

[squeekness]

1,500 for an adult male sounds more reasonable to me as well. You go too lean and you'll just crash and binge. :( You gotta do thngs in small steps, not all at once.

[DV8]

yeah, I hear you guys . . . I am taking it to extremes right now, but it's the only way for me to properly motivate myself . . . I'm def not worried about binging at this point though . . .

the reason is because I feel that in order to succeed at my goals, I have to take away food's role as a pleasure, and break it down to its basic role as fuel for survival . . . I'm done w/ the severe calorie cutting now though . . . I'll pry increase it to about 1500 calories when I'm incorporating my workouts . . .

the only thing I'm a unhappy about now is my rotator cuff is kinda shot, so I won't be able to be lifting weights like I'd like to . . . I'm a naturally bulky guy, so I guess this is a sign that it's time for me to concentrate on cardio and lean muscle now

[Manic]

I don't know if I asked this question before and simply didn't check back for an answer, but here it goes:

I've been feeling really really hungry lately. I tend to go to the gym somewhere around noon, just after lunch. After my workout, I have a shake and probably something like a sandwich and a bowl of soup. Then I'm incredibly hungry for the rest of the day. I mean I could eat a meal, and be hungry just an hour later. And I know it's common to confuse thirst with hunger, but this hungry sensation will hit me before, during, and after a glass of water. Am I just not eating enough? Am I working out so much that I'm going to have to turn into one of those people who gorges on large meals?

[Manic]

I don't know if I asked this question before and simply didn't check back for an answer, but here it goes:

I've been feeling really really hungry lately. I tend to go to the gym somewhere around noon, just after lunch. After my workout, I have a shake and probably something like a sandwich and a bowl of soup. Then I'm incredibly hungry for the rest of the day. I mean I could eat a meal, and be hungry just an hour later. And I know it's common to confuse thirst with hunger, but this hungry sensation will hit me before, during, and after a glass of water. Am I just not eating enough? Am I working out so much that I'm going to have to turn into one of those people who gorges on large meals?

[squeekness]

Are you getting enough protien and fiber with that lunch? Either of those would help tide you over better after your workout....

[Manic]

Whenever I have soup and a sandwich, they're almost always clam chowder and turkey. I think that's plenty of protein, especially after a protein drink.

[squeekness]

I would agree. I have no clue what would help you. :(

[mrvlknight21]

yeah, next week I plan on hitting the cardio hard; I will increase my daily caloric intake so that I have enough energy for exercies, but still gonna be cutting hard . . . to be honest this week I was a little run down because I made such severe cuts, and right after the fat holiday weekend Lol

I tried to consume not much over 1000 calories per day . . . almost to the degree of a starvation diet

of all the 'diets' out there, calorie managing makes the most sense to me; it's basic math when you break it down, really . . .

If you do the 1,000 calorie thing...expect to feel like and look like crap.

First of all your body needs more fuel than that for daily operation. You will probably feel weak and tired on this type of diet.
Secondly, when you eat so little, your body will attempt to retain every bit of it, since it will be in a catabolic mode. Thus, you will retain MORE fat this way.....so even if you lose weight (you would lose some weight on this), you will retain fat. So guess what you are losing?

Anyways, there are a lot of calorie trackers out there like dailyplate.com...just google them and be sure that whatever you are eating is good, clean food. Lean proteins (fish, chicken), vegetables, fruits and some good grains (whole wheat bread, brown rice, etc).

[Mario_Galaxy]

It took me forever to grasp the concept of eat more- lose fat/ gain muscle

[enterthemadness]

I don't know if I asked this question before and simply didn't check back for an answer, but here it goes:

I've been feeling really really hungry lately. I tend to go to the gym somewhere around noon, just after lunch. After my workout, I have a shake and probably something like a sandwich and a bowl of soup. Then I'm incredibly hungry for the rest of the day. I mean I could eat a meal, and be hungry just an hour later. And I know it's common to confuse thirst with hunger, but this hungry sensation will hit me before, during, and after a glass of water. Am I just not eating enough? Am I working out so much that I'm going to have to turn into one of those people who gorges on large meals?

And I'm gonna use your post to aska question. After basketball and working out, would I only consume one protein shake in a large glass or would I still have to eat a sandwhich with it? Gonna buy some Whey protein at Walmart next week.

As for your question...I get hungry like that, but not as bad. My weight is staying in the 127 to 128.8 range. After my work out today I had a can of salmon with two white small hamburger buns. Like two hours after that or 3 ish, I had a large banana, some leftover chili with crackers and some cheez It. I'm still kinda hungry and I just had some water. Think I have me some wheat bread now.

[DV8]

If you do the 1,000 calorie thing...expect to feel like and look like crap.

First of all your body needs more fuel than that for daily operation. You will probably feel weak and tired on this type of diet.
Secondly, when you eat so little, your body will attempt to retain every bit of it, since it will be in a catabolic mode. Thus, you will retain MORE fat this way.....so even if you lose weight (you would lose some weight on this), you will retain fat. So guess what you are losing?

Anyways, there are a lot of calorie trackers out there like dailyplate.com...just google them and be sure that whatever you are eating is good, clean food. Lean proteins (fish, chicken), vegetables, fruits and some good grains (whole wheat bread, brown rice, etc).

I've read that anything under 1000 calories is going to lead to burning muscle; I work an office job, so when I'm not exercising I might burn about 2600 calories a day . . . that's kind of the point of having a calorie deficit . . . I'm fat man, I need to lose a lot of weight lol

If I actually starve myself, that's when the body wants to retain more fat; but I'm trying to balance that . . .

[squeekness]

You don't have to starve, just bulk up on low calorie, high bulk foods that are good for you anyhow -- leafy greens, broccolli, fruits. A whole box of frozen asparagus is only 60 calories but it can fill you up easily. You just need to change what you eat. :)

[mrvlknight21]

I've read that anything under 1000 calories is going to lead to burning muscle; I work an office job, so when I'm not exercising I might burn about 2600 calories a day . . . that's kind of the point of having a calorie deficit . . . I'm fat man, I need to lose a lot of weight lol

If I actually starve myself, that's when the body wants to retain more fat; but I'm trying to balance that . . .

I dont know what your weight is, or your ideal weight, but you said "I'm fat" so I will tell you a little story.

A friend of mine is 5' 11" and at his heaviest he weighed 490. Im sure you could agree that he needed to lose a lot of weight.
I dont know if you are anywhere near this big or what, but just hear me out.

He decided one day that he had enough. He asked if he could go to the gym with me. Of course, I said yes.
This began a new lifestyle for him and it did NOT involve counting calories.

Somewhere between 18 months and 2 years later and he is 230 lbs and runs in 5k and 10k races for fun.

All he did was commit to the plan and stick with it. As far as diet, he simply ate SMARTER. He didnt count calories. Instead of 2 pieces of fried chicken with 3 sides, sweet tea and dessert, he would get a grilled chicken salad and water. Smarter decisions on the diet, along with regular exercise and he saw awesome results-without starving himself or counting calories.

[DV8]

I'm fat for what I feel I should be . . . I should be about 180lbs. (in good shape), and I was 232lbs. going into my weight loss plan this time . . .

I don't intend on keeping this up forever, but I feel that it's important for my own success to strip food to it's most intrinsic form; that is to say that food is FUEL for the body, and I shouldn't need to gorge myself, and eat for pleasure . . . eating should feel like a waste of time for me . . .

unfortunately, for me that means I need to deprive myself until I can't stand it anymore, and then all those healthy food choices will be like a feast for my body :up:

[Prison Mike]

I've started to have a protein shake everyday so hopefully I will gain some muscle and bulk up! I also eat 6 egg whites in the morning.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm fat for what I feel I should be . . . I should be about 180lbs. (in good shape), and I was 232lbs. going into my weight loss plan this time . . .

I don't intend on keeping this up forever, but I feel that it's important for my own success to strip food to it's most intrinsic form; that is to say that food is FUEL for the body, and I shouldn't need to gorge myself, and eat for pleasure . . . eating should feel like a waste of time for me . . .

unfortunately, for me that means I need to deprive myself until I can't stand it anymore, and then all those healthy food choices will be like a feast for my body :up:

Your 2nd paragraph was awesome, I was nodding my head as I read it. :up:

Then I read your 3rd paragraph and had to drop my head in disappointment.
:csad:

[Golgo-13]

I've started doing straight burpess and kettlebell swings. It's a vicious combination that i do back and forth, with little to no breaks inbetween sets. I almost coughed up a lung when i did them this morning...try 'em!

[mrvlknight21]

I've started doing straight burpess and kettlebell swings. It's a vicious combination that i do back and forth, with little to no breaks inbetween sets. I almost coughed up a lung when i did them this morning...try 'em!

I have combined those 2 before as well...tough on the legs and lungs.
Have you seen my burpee video on youtube?

[squeekness]

I'm fat for what I feel I should be . . . I should be about 180lbs. (in good shape), and I was 232lbs. going into my weight loss plan this time . . .

I don't intend on keeping this up forever, but I feel that it's important for my own success to strip food to it's most intrinsic form; that is to say that food is FUEL for the body, and I shouldn't need to gorge myself, and eat for pleasure . . . eating should feel like a waste of time for me . . .

unfortunately, for me that means I need to deprive myself until I can't stand it anymore, and then all those healthy food choices will be like a feast for my body :up:I don't think I will ever look at a salad and say, "Oh, what a bountiful feast." :(

[enterthemadness]

I don't think I will ever look at a salad and say, "Oh, what a bountiful feast." :(

Put chicken in it and there you ****ing go.

I did only half of my upper body work out today. It was just bad, I wasn't feeling it, esp after a near close call. Second time in a week...I missed the rack on the bench press. Hell, I actually think it's the 3rd time this year.Second time in like a week...I am on my warm up and am racking it on the bar. Looking at the left hand and am racking it...but my eyes are still on the left hand when racking the right hand...so yeah, the bar misses and it's at a 45 degree angle on me. Had to slide under to get off the bench press. Then it drops even further. I think now since a worker there saw I need to be spotted at all times when doing bench press. Then afterwards I was doing curlbar and got myself on the chin with it when coming up. Just a bad work out day.

[LastSunrise1981]

I have recent pictures of myself after working out and my progress when it came to losing 95lbs. They're on my fitness MySpace and I was about to post them, but I wasn't sure if taking pictures from my MySpace is considered hotlinking.

[enterthemadness]

I have recent pictures of myself after working out and my progress when it came to losing 95lbs. They're on my fitness MySpace and I was about to post them, but I wasn't sure if taking pictures from my MySpace is considered hotlinking.

I do that all the time even though I have a imageshack account.

What's you myspace handle? Url?

[Trainwreck2100]

Put chicken in it and there you ****ing go.

I did only half of my upper body work out today. It was just bad, I wasn't feeling it, esp after a near close call. Second time in a week...I missed the rack on the bench press. Hell, I actually think it's the 3rd time this year.Second time in like a week...I am on my warm up and am racking it on the bar. Looking at the left hand and am racking it...but my eyes are still on the left hand when racking the right hand...so yeah, the bar misses and it's at a 45 degree angle on me. Had to slide under to get off the bench press. Then it drops even further. I think now since a worker there saw I need to be spotted at all times when doing bench press. Then afterwards I was doing curlbar and got myself on the chin with it when coming up. Just a bad work out day.

i gave up on barbell weights my second month of working out 4 years ago cause of how many close calls i had. Even though its not as good i just decided to stick with hammer strength and dumbbell.

[enterthemadness]

i gave up on barbell weights my second month of working out 4 years ago cause of how many close calls i had. Even though its not as good i just decided to stick with hammer strength and dumbbell.

Is the Hammer Strength a chest machine?

[Trainwreck2100]

Is the Hammer Strength a chest machine?
I think its the name of the company, they make machines you load plates on.

[mrvlknight21]

Is the Hammer Strength a chest machine?

They make all kinds of strength equipment, mostly leverage based machines.

Like so:

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w339/rockymountainhealthclubpics/hs2.jpg

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w339/rockymountainhealthclubpics/hs1.jpg

and so on...

[mrvlknight21]

i gave up on barbell weights my second month of working out 4 years ago cause of how many close calls i had. Even though its not as good i just decided to stick with hammer strength and dumbbell.

Dumbbells are just as good...even better in my opinion.
The advantage of barbells are that you can stack a bit more weight on it.

I am assuming that you were not working in a power rack. If you had been, you wouldnt have anything to worry about safety-wise with the barbell.
Unfortunately many gyms do not have power racks. Just another reason I love working out at my own home gym.

[Wiseman]

I'm gonna treat the fitness thread just like the gym, poke my head in for a couple minutes, realize it isn't for me, then leave. Goodbye

[enterthemadness]

:csad: the red hurts my eyes and soul.

I meant chest press machine. That thing is awesome. The squat/brnch press (or the back up bench press that's alos a friggin squat machine) is a Hammer Strenght.

[enterthemadness]

I'm gonna treat the fitness thread just like the gym, poke my head in for a couple minutes, realize it isn't for me, then leave. Goodbye

:o come in again. And wow, SHH is making some of my replies ghosts ones.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm gonna treat the fitness thread just like the gym, poke my head in for a couple minutes, realize it isn't for me, then leave. Goodbye

:csad:
Well come back anytime!

[Trainwreck2100]

Dumbbells are just as good...even better in my opinion.
The advantage of barbells are that you can stack a bit more weight on it.

I am assuming that you were not working in a power rack. If you had been, you wouldnt have anything to worry about safety-wise with the barbell.
Unfortunately many gyms do not have power racks. Just another reason I love working out at my own home gym.

yeah no rack

[mrvlknight21]

:csad: the red hurts my eyes and soul.

I meant chest press machine. That thing is awesome. The squat/brnch press (or the back up bench press that's alos a friggin squat machine) is a Hammer Strenght.

LOL! Hurts your soul...thats funny.

Yeah, you asked this "Is the Hammer Strength a chest machine?"
I essentially told you no, they are a company that makes lots of equipment and showed a few.

They make very good stuff.
Anyone working out at home that would like a system like that should check into this Powertec leverage system. It costs a lot, but you can really do a LOT of exercises on it and its tough as nails. Its not like you are buying a Bowflex.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/luxurysource/largepowertecmultistation.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

yeah no rack

Well dont worry about it.
Dumbbells and hammer strength will take you places, NO DOUBT.

[enterthemadness]

LOL! Hurts your soul...thats funny.

Yeah, you asked this "Is the Hammer Strength a chest machine?"
I essentially told you no, they are a company that makes lots of equipment and showed a few.

They make very good stuff.
Anyone working out at home that would like a system like that should check into this Powertec leverage system. It costs a lot, but you can really do a LOT of exercises on it and its tough as nails. Its not like you are buying a Bowflex.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/luxurysource/largepowertecmultistation.jpg

That squat part of the machine looks painful.

When I do squats on the squat machine (Hammer Strength cage), the weight hurts my hamstrings. I have only done 135 and 140 lbs on it. Is this normal? Should I get a weight belt for my lower back?

[mrvlknight21]

That squat part of the machine looks painful.

When I do squats on the squat machine (Hammer Strength cage), the weight hurts my hamstrings. I have only done 135 and 140 lbs on it. Is this normal? Should I get a weight belt for my lower back?


I think the platform for the squats is angled...look closely.

Check your form and make sure your legs are warmed up before doing squats.
I dont think you need a belt.

[enterthemadness]

I think the platform for the squats is angled...look closely.

Check your form and make sure your legs are warmed up before doing squats.
I dont think you need a belt.

Looks like he's gonna fall back onto his back.

Do I keep feet lined up with the shoulders? And I guess I need to do leg streches now. Is playing basketball before squats too much?

[Estellise]

I've been really upping my fitness lately. It is amazing how good it makes me feel and my body feel stronger and stronger.

[LastSunrise1981]

I do that all the time even though I have a imageshack account.

What's you myspace handle? Url?

My fitness myspace handle is www.myspace.com/fitnessnation.

I just wasn't sure if I could use the pictures from my myspace and post them on here.

[enterthemadness]

My fitness myspace handle is www.myspace.com/fitnessnation (http://www.myspace.com/fitnessnation).

I just wasn't sure if I could use the pictures from my myspace and post them on here.

Nice page. I'll request you on it in a bit. 94lbs huh. Lost in a year. That is good.

[squeekness]

That squat part of the machine looks painful.

When I do squats on the squat machine (Hammer Strength cage), the weight hurts my hamstrings. I have only done 135 and 140 lbs on it. Is this normal? Should I get a weight belt for my lower back?I would think that in top of making sure that you're warm, that make sure you do some regular hamstring stretches too. :( Maybe your back is too tight to begin with.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Here's what I'm doing:

Monday: Chest flies on Bowflex for 10 minutes. Leg curls for 10 minutes. 7 laps in the pool from one end to the other--inground if it matters--at random points during the day. A glass of skim milk mixed with some chocolate flavored whey protein powder 1 hour after my bowflex exercises.

Tuesday: "Twist" exercise--I work the area where most people get what they call an inner tube (thank God I haven't got one, but still like working it) for 20 minutes. 7 laps in pool, and I use do an ab exercise using one of those wheels. I do 50 of those. Its where you lean on handles attached to the wheel and roll it forward and back while kneeling. Glass of chocolate flavored whey-skim milk mix 1 hour after time on bowflex.

Wednesday: Repeat Monday
Thursday: Repeat Tuesday
Friday: Repeat Monday
Saturday: Repeat Tuesday
Sunday: Repeat Monday

[enterthemadness]

I would think that in top of making sure that you're warm, that make sure you do some regular hamstring stretches too. :( Maybe your back is too tight to begin with.

I did some light stretching before squats today. Didn't have too much of a problem as before. Even did one set of 145 after 135 and 140lbs. So now my max is 145lbs. I bet I can get it to 180 by August.

[enterthemadness]

:cmad: why is this thread dead!?!?


I gots me some Strawberry Whey Protein mix. A big...bwol...jag....bowl...jug mix of it. How should I use it? The damn thing came with no scooper (thanks retards) so how do I measure it out? Do I just go on a trial basis with it? Like try the mix with some skim milk and half a PB Wheat sandwhich or what?

[Golgo-13]

I have combined those 2 before as well...tough on the legs and lungs.
Have you seen my burpee video on youtube?

No i haven't seen the vid.

Definitely tough on the legs and lungs, i'm STILL sore today. :up:

[theShape]

Urgent: is it okay to drink Whey Protein while eating a snack?

[enterthemadness]

Urgent: is it okay to drink Whey Protein while eating a snack?

I wouldn't try that. But, I don't know much about it. Just got me a jug of it today to have after workouts now.

How long have you been using the stuff?

[Prison Mike]

Urgent: is it okay to drink Whey Protein while eating a snack?

I drank a protein shake today while eating a piece of pizza. I'm not dead yet. So...it's alright. :up:

[enterthemadness]

Curious. How much do you guys way? Am I the skinnest person in here weight lifting?

I weigh 128.6. I want to get to 145lbs by August. Only 5'5 so that should be good on me if it's mostly muscle.

[squeekness]

:cmad: why is this thread dead!?!?


I gots me some Strawberry Whey Protein mix. A big...bwol...jag....bowl...jug mix of it. How should I use it? The damn thing came with no scooper (thanks retards) so how do I measure it out? Do I just go on a trial basis with it? Like try the mix with some skim milk and half a PB Wheat sandwhich or what?Mine always comes with a scoop. Cheap bastards. :p I imagine a serving would be roughly 3 tablespoons or so. The scoop is about the same kind that comes with regular drink mix.

Urgent: is it okay to drink Whey Protein while eating a snack?I'm pretty sure you won't explode or anything... ;) but I could be wrong. :p


Here's a question -- all you health nutsz out there eating salad and living off of protien shakes and all that, what do you guys do to combat cravings? I got double slammed at work today -- the food service was serving steak tips in gravy and everyone at my table got some. Then the break after that, a guy sat down with fried mozzerella sticks, wafting the wonderful scent of grease and cheese my way. I thought I was gonna curl up and die. I had yogurt and cereal bars and fiber bars. It just don't add up, you know? But I can't be eating heavy like that so late at night -- I work the late afternoon shift. :( Do these cravings die off eventually? Or do you guys have to fight it when other people around you eat all the junk food they want?

[Manic]

Good question. I've been fighting the temptation to head to Cold Stone Creamery for about a week straight.

[enterthemadness]

Mine always comes with a scoop. Cheap bastards. :p I imagine a serving would be roughly 3 tablespoons or so. The scoop is about the same kind that comes with regular drink mix.

I'm pretty sure you won't explode or anything... ;) but I could be wrong. :p


Here's a question -- all you health nutsz out there eating salad and living off of protien shakes and all that, what do you guys do to combat cravings? I got double slammed at work today -- the food service was serving steak tips in gravy and everyone at my table got some. Then the break after that, a guy sat down with fried mozzerella sticks, wafting the wonderful scent of grease and cheese my way. I thought I was gonna curl up and die. I had yogurt and cereal bars and fiber bars. It just don't add up, you know? But I can't be eating heavy like that so late at night -- I work the late afternoon shift. :( Do these cravings die off eventually? Or do you guys have to fight it when other people around you eat all the junk food they want?

I'm not health consiconus anymore like I was, but I try to moderate basically. My only regular cheat stuff should only be reg coke and other sodas.

[squeekness]

No more regular soda for squeeks. :( Just diet stuff and even then, not so often anymore. It just doesn't taste the same.

My cravings for chocolate and crap like that are less, now I just crave meat. I want steak, and fried chicken, and pizza, and burgers on the grill. :( I can't be eating fatty stuff like that no more. It's all lean, lean, lean these days.

[enterthemadness]

No more regular soda for squeeks. :( Just diet stuff and even then, not so often anymore. It just doesn't taste the same.

My cravings for chocolate and crap like that are less, now I just crave meat. I want steak, and fried chicken, and pizza, and burgers on the grill. :( I can't be eating fatty stuff like that no more. It's all lean, lean, lean these days.

Oh, I'm sure in my 30's or 40's my body will be changing and I have to cut down on coke and stuff. Reg sodas just satisfy my sweet tooth usually. I know I'm craving meat more now that I work out. I don't crave fried chicken, I dislike it most of the time anyway. I use to hate coke, but before I quit work I got addicted to it. Same with Mellow Yellow, but my crvaing for that one has died down.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Curious. How much do you guys way? Am I the skinnest person in here weight lifting?

I weigh 128.6. I want to get to 145lbs by August. Only 5'5 so that should be good on me if it's mostly muscle.

I'm not actually weight lifting--trying to "lean up" really, not necessarily build muscle--but I weigh either 125 (home scale) or 129 (doctor's scale, while wearing shoes, clothes, etc). Dunno which. :P I'm 5'6. So either one is a good weight?

My parents keep telling me that I need to eat more so that I don't stunt my growth (I'm 20), yet I used to be pretty big in Jr. High and High School. Call me paranoid...

[squeekness]

Oh, I'm sure in my 30's or 40's my body will be changing and I have to cut down on coke and stuff. Reg sodas just satisfy my sweet tooth usually. I know I'm craving meat more now that I work out. I don't crave fried chicken, I dislike it most of the time anyway. I use to hate coke, but before I quit work I got addicted to it. Same with Mellow Yellow, but my crvaing for that one has died down.I'm a small person -- 5'2" -- and will be 44 soon. I weigh about 130-129 naked on the scale which is overweight. My minimum BMI is 112 which ain't never going to happen, but I'd like to see 120. So it's minimizing the carbs and working out four days a week for me. I've fallen in love with the elliptical machines at the gym and plan to buy a refurbished Precor for home use in a coupla months. I also use some of the weight machines too -- pull downs, vertical row, butterflies, leg press and leg lifts. I have to watch how much weight I push right now because I have arthritis in my hips and shoulders. :( Squeekness is old.

[mrvlknight21]

No i haven't seen the vid.

Definitely tough on the legs and lungs, i'm STILL sore today. :up:

I will PM it to you if you want to see it. Let me know.

[mrvlknight21]

Urgent: is it okay to drink Whey Protein while eating a snack?

Sure its ok.
Why would that be a problem?

[mrvlknight21]

:cmad: why is this thread dead!?!?


I gots me some Strawberry Whey Protein mix. A big...bwol...jag....bowl...jug mix of it. How should I use it? The damn thing came with no scooper (thanks retards) so how do I measure it out? Do I just go on a trial basis with it? Like try the mix with some skim milk and half a PB Wheat sandwhich or what?

If its in a jug, Im sure it has a scoop.
Open the top and roll it around a little bit and reach in there. I have bought protein for about 15 years now, all different sizes and brands and have never seen one without a scoop. (they are often stuck down near the bottom).

I also have some strawberry flavored protein. I like mixing it w/ Sunny D or the mango flavored Naked juice. Give it a try...its almost like a fruit smoothie.

By the way, what brand did you get?

[mrvlknight21]

Mine always comes with a scoop. Cheap bastards. :p I imagine a serving would be roughly 3 tablespoons or so. The scoop is about the same kind that comes with regular drink mix.

I'm pretty sure you won't explode or anything... ;) but I could be wrong. :p


Here's a question -- all you health nutsz out there eating salad and living off of protien shakes and all that, what do you guys do to combat cravings? I got double slammed at work today -- the food service was serving steak tips in gravy and everyone at my table got some. Then the break after that, a guy sat down with fried mozzerella sticks, wafting the wonderful scent of grease and cheese my way. I thought I was gonna curl up and die. I had yogurt and cereal bars and fiber bars. It just don't add up, you know? But I can't be eating heavy like that so late at night -- I work the late afternoon shift. :( Do these cravings die off eventually? Or do you guys have to fight it when other people around you eat all the junk food they want?

One thing you can do is PLAN your cheat meals. If you know that on Friday, for dinner you will reward yourself with a certain meal, it makes it easier to avoid cheating the other days. Actually PLAN it though (write it on your calendar, or invite someone to go enjoy it with you), and dont just have it in your head, so it doesnt skip around and change and you end up at the end of the week having had 3-4 cheat meals instead of the one.
Trust me, I have made that mistake.

Now sometimes I am starving and just say screw it and eat what I want. Yesterday, for example, I got called out for a bomb that was found. Well, I was on the scene working from 800am until 400pm, straight, with no breaks and NO FOOD. Now, for me thats almost like missing 2-3 meals since I try to actually plan my meals and snacks. So at 400pm, I was STARVING and went and ate Zaxbys. I still could have had a salad at Zaxbys, but at that point, I knew it wouldnt satisfy me unless I had a fuller (fattier) meal.

Unfortunately this happens with my job from time to time. Back in November I was called out for a murder and worked 24 straight hours without a break. You can imagine how I felt after that.

[Colossal Spoons]

*looks up Zaxbys*

[mrvlknight21]

*looks up Zaxbys*

Damn dude, you dont know Zaxby's either?

Alright, I am offering you an official invite to come down here for 2-3 days and work out, hang out and eat out. Thats official. Its an open invitation, no set dates.
Period.

[Colossal Spoons]

*wants Zaxbys*

Bro, I'd totally take a trip to ATL :D

[Colossal Spoons]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/374/kickinchickmealdeal6757.jpg

What? I need it!

[mrvlknight21]

*wants Zaxbys*

Bro, I'd totally take a trip to ATL :D

Well, we could hit up ATL also, its only 2 hours from here. *cough cheetah club cough*

[mrvlknight21]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/374/kickinchickmealdeal6757.jpg

What? I need it!

Dang. Yeah, thats not what I ordered.
LOL!
Good stuff though.

[Majic Walrus]

Damn dude, you dont know Zaxby's either?

Alright, I am offering you an official invite to come down here for 2-3 days and work out, hang out and eat out. Thats official. Its an open invitation, no set dates.
Period.

I've only seen Zaxby's from a distance. I guess it's worth it. :huh:

[mrvlknight21]

I've only seen Zaxby's from a distance. I guess it's worth it. :huh:

Dang, its pretty much once a week for just about anyone down here.

[Colossal Spoons]

Well, we could hit up ATL also, its only 2 hours from here. *cough cheetah club cough*

Oh duh, forgot you lived in a diff town in GA.

Dang. Yeah, thats not what I ordered.
LOL!
Good stuff though.

It stuck out the most on their menu, prob the worst for you too haha.

[mrvlknight21]

Oh duh, forgot you lived in a diff town in GA.



It stuck out the most on their menu, prob the worst for you too haha.

Yeah, but trips to Atlanta are pretty common. 2 hours is no big deal and I have plenty of people in that area, not to mention all the things you can do.

[Golgo-13]

I will PM it to you if you want to see it. Let me know.

Yeah, PM it to me.

[Majic Walrus]

Damn dude, you dont know Zaxby's either?

Alright, I am offering you an official invite to come down here for 2-3 days and work out, hang out and eat out. Thats official. Its an open invitation, no set dates.
Period.

I've only seen Zaxby's from a distance. I guess it's worth it. :huh:

[mrvlknight21]

I've only seen Zaxby's from a distance. I guess it's worth it. :huh:

Yeah, you said that already. They definitely know how to make tasty chicken. I dont eat chicken wings, so I usually get the regular chicken finger plate.

[enterthemadness]

If its in a jug, Im sure it has a scoop.
Open the top and roll it around a little bit and reach in there. I have bought protein for about 15 years now, all different sizes and brands and have never seen one without a scoop. (they are often stuck down near the bottom).

I also have some strawberry flavored protein. I like mixing it w/ Sunny D or the mango flavored Naked juice. Give it a try...its almost like a fruit smoothie.

By the way, what brand did you get?


OK, thanks. Look for that in a bit.

I have Whey Protein. The kind in those orange like jugs Walmart always has. Low cal and low sugar and lots of protein according to the label on the side.

I gotta go abck to the rec today. :csad: they were cleaning the weight room and could only play some b-ball. Weights after dinner now.

[mrvlknight21]

OK, thanks. Look for that in a bit.

I have Whey Protein. The kind in those orange like jugs Walmart always has. Low cal and low sugar and lots of protein according to the label on the side.

I gotta go abck to the rec today. :csad: they were cleaning the weight room and could only play some b-ball. Weights after dinner now.

Yes, I know it is whey protein, but what brand?
I know wal-mart sells "body fortress" or something similar.
Is this it?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10322372

[enterthemadness]

Yes, I know it is whey protein, but what brand?
I know wal-mart sells "body fortress" or something similar.
Is this it?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10322372

It's Body Fortress Super Advanced.

Almost 14 bucks for it it was. Is this good?

Considering I didn't hit the hay to round 3 am...um, probably good now I can't work out til after dinner, huh?

[mrvlknight21]

It's Body Fortress Super Advanced.

Almost 14 bucks for it it was. Is this good?

Considering I didn't hit the hay to round 3 am...um, probably good now I can't work out til after dinner, huh?

I have heard things about the quality of that one not being so good. The price is obviously very good. Im sure it will suit your needs just fine.

[enterthemadness]

I have heard things about the quality of that one not being so good. The price is obviously very good. Im sure it will suit your needs just fine.

:cmad: damn it to hell Walmart! :o oh well, it it tastes like crap tough ****, I'm not expecting all P-Shakes to taste great. Just help me put on some muscles.

Did you run into Agent Neo today? :hehe:

[Prison Mike]

No more regular soda for squeeks. :( Just diet stuff and even then, not so often anymore. It just doesn't taste the same.

My cravings for chocolate and crap like that are less, now I just crave meat. I want steak, and fried chicken, and pizza, and burgers on the grill. :( I can't be eating fatty stuff like that no more. It's all lean, lean, lean these days.

I've stopped drinking sodas too. I'll have one once in a while but I'm nothing like what I used to be (drinking a can or two a day). Ever since I got serious about exercising, I kind of stopped eating junk food and drinking soda. Now it's just milk and juice and plenty of protein.

[squeekness]

One thing you can do is PLAN your cheat meals. If you know that on Friday, for dinner you will reward yourself with a certain meal, it makes it easier to avoid cheating the other days. Actually PLAN it though (write it on your calendar, or invite someone to go enjoy it with you), and dont just have it in your head, so it doesnt skip around and change and you end up at the end of the week having had 3-4 cheat meals instead of the one.
Trust me, I have made that mistake.

Now sometimes I am starving and just say screw it and eat what I want. Yesterday, for example, I got called out for a bomb that was found. Well, I was on the scene working from 800am until 400pm, straight, with no breaks and NO FOOD. Now, for me thats almost like missing 2-3 meals since I try to actually plan my meals and snacks. So at 400pm, I was STARVING and went and ate Zaxbys. I still could have had a salad at Zaxbys, but at that point, I knew it wouldnt satisfy me unless I had a fuller (fattier) meal.

Unfortunately this happens with my job from time to time. Back in November I was called out for a murder and worked 24 straight hours without a break. You can imagine how I felt after that.Couldn't you pack some spare cereal bars in your work kit? :p Just to tie you over?

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/374/kickinchickmealdeal6757.jpg

What? I need it!Got to love the Lord for makin' things like that.... :p *drools*

[Colossal Spoons]

Hot sauce + ranch is amazing

[enterthemadness]

Hot sauce + ranch is amazing

You keep that to yourself vomit breath.:o

[Prison Mike]

that picture kind of makes me want to hurl

[mrvlknight21]

Couldn't you pack some spare cereal bars in your work kit? :p Just to tie you over?


I dont eat cereal bars really. The majority of them have HFCS and other sweeteners in them and are of little nutritional value.
Obviously I could pack an apple or something, but on some of these calls I really didnt expect it to be much and/or I wasnt the lead agent, but quickly became that once everything developed (in other words I had to stay a lot longer than expected).

Planning is the key. But even with some things that are packable like that, I probably wouldnt have much time to eat and would have a bunch of angry and hungry deputies mad that I didnt bring them anything! LOL!

[mrvlknight21]

Hot sauce + ranch is amazing

super gross.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/lkddav/vomit.jpg

[enterthemadness]

I dont eat cereal bars really. The majority of them have HFCS and other sweeteners in them and are of little nutritional value.
Obviously I could pack an apple or something, but on some of these calls I really didnt expect it to be much and/or I wasnt the lead agent, but quickly became that once everything developed (in other words I had to stay a lot longer than expected).

Planning is the key. But even with some things that are packable like that, I probably wouldnt have much time to eat and would have a bunch of angry and hungry deputies mad that I didnt bring them anything! LOL!

Me here. The only ones I do it are those nature valleys or anynone with LGPA or PGA or um, ski us team. Good for them, then it's good for me.

[enterthemadness]

super gross.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r94/lkddav/vomit.jpg

pea soup not ftw here.

[mrvlknight21]

Me here. The only ones I do it are those nature valleys or anynone with LGPA or PGA or um, ski us team. Good for them, then it's good for me.

I would check those as well. They probably arent as good as you think.

[mrvlknight21]

I am finding some amazing vomit pics by the way!

[Prison Mike]

I like the khashi granola bars

[Agent Z]

Hot sauce + ranch is amazing

You mean, alone? :huh:


I understand the appeal, if they are used to accent a main food, ala hot wings.

However, you paint a picture of holding a carton of ranch mixed with hot sauce, and spooning it out en masse :eek:

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, take a look at the ingredients listed.

http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?id=prod375929&CATID=305558&skuid=sku375930&V=G&ec=frgl_633681&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=sku375930

Several different types of sugars.
Soy protein.

I definitely wouldnt eat them regularly.

[mrvlknight21]

You mean, alone? :huh:


I understand the appeal, if they are used to accent a main food, ala hot wings.

However, you paint a picture of holding a carton of ranch mixed with hot sauce, and spooning it out en masse :eek:

Pretty much what he means.
Go back and look at that picture.

[squeekness]

I don't mind cereal bars as a tide over, but only the ones with yogurt in 'em. I could eat a whole big bunch of them since they are so small and all, but I only have one at a time. It's better than eating cookies I guess.... :(

[Agent Z]

Pretty much what he means.
Go back and look at that picture.

Ahh, now I see. Yeah, a little too much for me :csad:

[mrvlknight21]

Ahh, now I see. Yeah, a little too much for me :csad:

You and me both, brother.

[Colossal Spoons]

I am finding some amazing vomit pics by the way!

Ha, nasty

You mean, alone? :huh:


I understand the appeal, if they are used to accent a main food, ala hot wings.

However, you paint a picture of holding a carton of ranch mixed with hot sauce, and spooning it out en masse :eek:

Hahaha, not alone. Talkin about dipping things in it.

[mrvlknight21]

Just a reminder to EVERYONE...do your pullups today!
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/SandyOatley/Muscles/DSCF7360.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/SandyOatley/Muscles/DSCF7344.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/carrancofg/dress%20blues/e25f.jpg

[Prison Mike]

I don't have a pull up bar. :csad:

[Agent Z]

Just a reminder to EVERYONE...do your pullups today!

I'm actually heading out to the gym now. I hate pullups, but if you took the time to post them, I will take the time to do them. :cwink:

Time to go make some hurtin' bombs! :word:

[mrvlknight21]

I don't have a pull up bar. :csad:

U sure?
How about a tree branch?

You could always buy a doorway pullup bar fairly cheap ($30 or less), like the irongym.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm actually heading out to the gym now. I hate pullups, but if you took the time to post them, I will take the time to do them. :cwink:

Time to go make some hurtin' bombs! :word:

First of all, you dont hate pullups...you just misunderstand them.

I like your attitude...get busy on them....they will make a beast of you!

[mrvlknight21]

USA! USA! USA!
http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp83/kpattermann/liaison%20w%20meu%2007/blinkypllp.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

Oh and be sure to lift a few of these as well
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq203/Keetman/Pullup%20Bar%20and%20DB%20handles/ProDBHandles06.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

Dang its actually kind of hard to find decent pullup pics.
#1 Most people dont do them
#2 Most people think chinups are the same thing (found more of those).

[mrvlknight21]

treadmills suck

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp119/Eva_Jeneva/160/x%20107/workout.gif

[The Original Bamfer]

So does triple posting. :o

[mrvlknight21]

Get out bamfer

[The Original Bamfer]

Hell no. I lift weights and stuff.

[mrvlknight21]

Hell no. I lift weights and stuff.

Cool. Now get out.
:oldrazz:

[ChickenScratch]

Wow, never noticed this thread before. I usually come here to talk comics and movies.

Anyways, my fitness routine. I started karate at 5 (I'm 28 now) so training 3 nights a week and 4 hours on Saturday works pretty well. I'm also a huge proponent of body weight exercises and isometrics because we do a lot of that in karate, as a result I am also a big fan of Charles Atlas's Dynamic Tension.

So usually it works out as every morning Dynamic Tension/Body weight workout. Mon, Wed, Fri evenings karate 2 hours. Saturday morning Dynamic Tension/Body weight workout then at the dojo by 10:00 for 4 hours. Sunday, rest.

[mrvlknight21]

Wow, never noticed this thread before. I usually come here to talk comics and movies.

Anyways, my fitness routine. I started karate at 5 (I'm 28 now) so training 3 nights a week and 4 hours on Saturday works pretty well. I'm also a huge proponent of body weight exercises and isometrics because we do a lot of that in karate, as a result I am also a big fan of Charles Atlas's Dynamic Tension.

So usually it works out as every morning Dynamic Tension/Body weight workout. Mon, Wed, Fri evenings karate 2 hours. Saturday morning Dynamic Tension/Body weight workout then at the dojo by 10:00 for 4 hours. Sunday, rest.

Awesome, glad to have you.
Check in anytime, we have all kinds here (bodybuilders, general fitness lovers, martial artists, various sports players, runners and so on).

[TheZink]

I use to be a huge fitness buff around high school. I swam twice a day, lifted weights every day, and ran 3 times a week.

Of course here I am 2 years out of college and I'm a former shadow of myself. I've been trying to get back into swimming as I found it the best exercise for me. I love being able to just lose myself in it and swim for hours. It was relaxing.

Getting back into swimming, I try to work all body parts equally, and keep the heart rate going for atleast a full hour. I've managed roughly 2000yards (just over a mile) in roughly 45mins while during parts using only upper-body or lower-body.

I'd like to in the near future enroll into an adult swim program in my area. I just have such little free time with work, and soon going back to school for my graduate degree.

[ChickenScratch]

Cool man. Glad to see there's a bit of the fitness culture within the nerd community here. LOL.

But really, it's funny because when I go to conventions I usually stand out because I pretty tall and in shape.

I'm a big fan of fitness training since childhood. Karate from 5, I was on my high school soccer team, high school tennis team, college swim team.

I'm also a huge fan of classic bodybuilding mostly Steve Reeves and Reg Park as well as Mike Mentzer's HIT training ... though I'm not anywhere close that that yet. I recently found this site, it's a great resource for classic (natural) body building. Lots of good articles and advice. http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/

[enterthemadness]

Had a protein shake for the first time in my life after a work out. Put some fat free skim milk and one scoop of strawberry Whey mix...and...it wasn't bad.

Work out was okay enough. Didn't do pull ups dude, I'm forgetful and lazy like that. Although with me on this stuff now I will be working out more and harder.

Is natural bodybuilding what you call just eating right and lots of the right food? IMO, it's not natural to take protein shakes or bars, I just find the protein shake mix to be cheaper and easier in the long run now.

[Prison Mike]

U sure?
How about a tree branch?

You could always buy a doorway pullup bar fairly cheap ($30 or less), like the irongym.

that's not a bad idea. I had a pull up bar but you had to screw it in and it became loose. it was unsafe. I'd rather have one that you can just hang on a doorway.

Also, is drinking a protein shake once a day enough? One scoop has 18 grams of protein so I put 2 scoops in the shake for 36 grams total. Plus I eat 6 egg whites in the morning. That should be enough protein a day, right?

[ChickenScratch]

A couple articles on Classical and Natural Bodybuilding:
http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/search/label/Classic%20Physique%20Building%20vs%20Natural%20Bod ybuilding
http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/search/label/Classic%20Physique%20Ideal
http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/search/label/Classic%20Physique%20vs%20Hulk-Like%20Physique
http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/search/label/Classic%20Physique%20Diet

[mrvlknight21]

Had a protein shake for the first time in my life after a work out. Put some fat free skim milk and one scoop of strawberry Whey mix...and...it wasn't bad.

Work out was okay enough. Didn't do pull ups dude, I'm forgetful and lazy like that. Although with me on this stuff now I will be working out more and harder.

Is natural bodybuilding what you call just eating right and lots of the right food? IMO, it's not natural to take protein shakes or bars, I just find the protein shake mix to be cheaper and easier in the long run now.

How can you forget pullups?!?!?
Just kidding.

No, natural bodybuilding just means no drugs-steroids, stimulants, etc. Anything they would test for. I would say that 99.9999997% of ALL bodybuilders use protein supplements and probably a lot more.

[mrvlknight21]

Cool man. Glad to see there's a bit of the fitness culture within the nerd community here. LOL.

But really, it's funny because when I go to conventions I usually stand out because I pretty tall and in shape.

I'm a big fan of fitness training since childhood. Karate from 5, I was on my high school soccer team, high school tennis team, college swim team.

I'm also a huge fan of classic bodybuilding mostly Steve Reeves and Reg Park as well as Mike Mentzer's HIT training ... though I'm not anywhere close that that yet. I recently found this site, it's a great resource for classic (natural) body building. Lots of good articles and advice. http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/

Na man, there are a lot of guys here that break that "nerd" stereotype.
I played football, basketball and baseball in high school and continued to play rec league, intramural league and YMCA league basketball and flag football until I was about 27. Also did some backyard wrestling.

[mrvlknight21]

I use to be a huge fitness buff around high school. I swam twice a day, lifted weights every day, and ran 3 times a week.

Of course here I am 2 years out of college and I'm a former shadow of myself. I've been trying to get back into swimming as I found it the best exercise for me. I love being able to just lose myself in it and swim for hours. It was relaxing.

Getting back into swimming, I try to work all body parts equally, and keep the heart rate going for atleast a full hour. I've managed roughly 2000yards (just over a mile) in roughly 45mins while during parts using only upper-body or lower-body.

I'd like to in the near future enroll into an adult swim program in my area. I just have such little free time with work, and soon going back to school for my graduate degree.

Wow, 2 swim team guys that have never posted here before who show up about the same time!

Obviously swimming is awesome exercise for the whole body. Do what you like to do and you will be able to enjoy it and not dread the "workouts."

I am wanting to finish up my Masters degree as well (I have completed 4 classes). What is yours in?

[mrvlknight21]

that's not a bad idea. I had a pull up bar but you had to screw it in and it became loose. it was unsafe. I'd rather have one that you can just hang on a doorway.

Also, is drinking a protein shake once a day enough? One scoop has 18 grams of protein so I put 2 scoops in the shake for 36 grams total. Plus I eat 6 egg whites in the morning. That should be enough protein a day, right?

Yeah man, its pretty simple to find or make a place to do pullups if you think about it. Definitely get a good/reliable one. You dont want to even have to think about the safety aspect of it. I have 5 things at my house that I do pullups on and I trust all of them.

As far as the protein, it depends on your goals. I would definitely do what you are already doing regarding the 2 scoop deal, no matter what. I dont know what your goals are, but most bodybuilders will be getting AT LEAST one gram of protein per lb of bodyweight per day.
Thus, if you weigh 200 lbs, strive for at least 200 gs of protein.

Egg whites are a great source of protein, I like where your head is at with that one.

[enterthemadness]

How can you forget pullups?!?!?
Just kidding.

No, natural bodybuilding just means no drugs-steroids, stimulants, etc. Anything they would test for. I would say that 99.9999997% of ALL bodybuilders use protein supplements and probably a lot more.

Just add a ****ing 8 or 9 to that....

To me natural is back in the day...no not last week or the 50's...that's right....hundreds and thousands years ago. Like Hercules...I doubt he had protein shakes back then. :o N-A-T-U-R-A-L.

dO i DRINK WATER WITH MY SHAKE? Damn caps :cmad:. And who who does angry weight lifting? I do that on some of my sets.

[mrvlknight21]

Just add a ****ing 8 or 9 to that....

To me natural is back in the day...no not last week or the 50's...that's right....hundreds and thousands years ago. Like Hercules...I doubt he had protein shakes back then. :o N-A-T-U-R-A-L.

dO i DRINK WATER WITH MY SHAKE? Damn caps :cmad:. And who who does angry weight lifting? I do that on some of my sets.

Hercules also wasnt a bodybuilder.
You asked a question and I answered it and now it seems you arent satisfied with the answer...or am I just reading that all wrong?

[TheRunningMan]

I've been lifting 5 days a week ever since my senior football season ended, and am currently on former WWE/WCW star Bill Goldberg's workout. Anyone ever hear of Advocare? I'm a distributer so if you need some info I got it. the stuff works like magic

[ChickenScratch]

Wow, 2 swim team guys that have never posted here before who show up about the same time!
Obviously swimming is awesome exercise for the whole body. Do what you like to do and you will be able to enjoy it and not dread the "workouts."
I am wanting to finish up my Masters degree as well (I have completed 4 classes). What is yours in?

My degrees are in Journalism and English Lit.

[Manic]

Let's hear it for a lack of foresight.

I'm down to maybe my last scoop of protein powder, and I've still got one more day to work out this week. If I order some more powder today, the order might be here by Monday. So here's hoping.

[tehdude]

man, i love swimming . i've loved it all my life. i used to do it like , every summer but i haven't gotten to for a while. i'll definitely be swimming this summer and if i can find a good indoor pool place i'll probably be able to keep swimming once summer is over.

[TheRunningMan]

most fitness clubs will have indoor pools

[TheZink]

Wow, 2 swim team guys that have never posted here before who show up about the same time!

Obviously swimming is awesome exercise for the whole body. Do what you like to do and you will be able to enjoy it and not dread the "workouts."

I am wanting to finish up my Masters degree as well (I have completed 4 classes). What is yours in?

I'll start up classes hopefully next spring. I've been busy with house, getting married, all that jazz.

I plan to get my masters in Mechanical Engineering. I'm not sure what specialty, but if I could get something along the lines of what I work I'd be happy.

When I went back to swimming, I found it really hard to get back into the groove. The form, style and even speed/strength were really all there. My stamina was awful. It took a good week to get into a good routine that allowed me to swim continuously without killing myself.

[enterthemadness]

Hercules also wasnt a bodybuilder.
You asked a question and I answered it and now it seems you arent satisfied with the answer...or am I just reading that all wrong?

:o I was dissatisfied. What would Hercules be? A guy in shape? I was dissatisfied cause I had a card....that was a dissatisfied card...and I decided to use it just to be a ass. I kid, :o I don't have cards like that.

[mrvlknight21]

:o I was dissatisfied. What would Hercules be? A guy in shape? I was dissatisfied cause I had a card....that was a dissatisfied card...and I decided to use it just to be a ass. I kid, :o I don't have cards like that.

Well first of all Hercules is a mythical character. But even today, he wouldnt be a bodybuilder. A strongman competitor would be more like it actually.

Remember, a bodybuilder is concerned with APPEARANCE. Thats what they get judged on.

I know where you are coming from, I know how you are about protein powder! Keep those cards close and dont play them so often. :grin:

[enterthemadness]

Well first of all Hercules is a mythical character. But even today, he wouldnt be a bodybuilder. A strongman competitor would be more like it actually.

Remember, a bodybuilder is concerned with APPEARANCE. Thats what they get judged on.

I know where you are coming from, I know how you are about protein powder! Keep those cards close and dont play them so often. :grin:

:o I actually forgot what you meant bout the p powder, then I remember myself.

So, bodybuilders are the ones who look jack lots of times...strong man are ones who are just NBA/NFL in shape? Would any WWE guys be bodybuilders?

[ChickenScratch]

Most of the WWE type guys fall under the bodybuilder banner. It's about how you use the muscle, if you work out to work out (you know, lift weights so you get stronger to lift heavier weights) or look pretty then you are a bodybuilder.

If you work out to function better like in my case with karate or like Tiger Woods who lifts weights to improve his golf swing it's a called functional strength. A soldier works out to function on the battlefield, a construction worker works out so his back doesn't kill him on the job, working out with a focus rather than for the look of it.

[squeekness]

Just a reminder to EVERYONE...do your pullups today!
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/SandyOatley/Muscles/DSCF7360.jpg

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/SandyOatley/Muscles/DSCF7344.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/carrancofg/dress%20blues/e25f.jpgI would do about five of those... and then pass out. :(

treadmills suck

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp119/Eva_Jeneva/160/x%20107/workout.gifWas that me? :eek: :p I ain't gots no coordinations.

Had a protein shake for the first time in my life after a work out. Put some fat free skim milk and one scoop of strawberry Whey mix...and...it wasn't bad.

Work out was okay enough. Didn't do pull ups dude, I'm forgetful and lazy like that. Although with me on this stuff now I will be working out more and harder.

Is natural bodybuilding what you call just eating right and lots of the right food? IMO, it's not natural to take protein shakes or bars, I just find the protein shake mix to be cheaper and easier in the long run now.The protien powder works for me because I am a little person with cholesterol issues. I need a source of lean protien while I was watching how many calories I was taking in. I don't use any more than one scoop a day (about 30 grams). My wellness advisor said that I only needed about 50 grams a day for my level or fitness so I get the rest through yogurt, beans, lean meats and cheese. I'm not a big fan of eggs...

Yeah man, its pretty simple to find or make a place to do pullups if you think about it. Definitely get a good/reliable one. You dont want to even have to think about the safety aspect of it. I have 5 things at my house that I do pullups on and I trust all of them.

As far as the protein, it depends on your goals. I would definitely do what you are already doing regarding the 2 scoop deal, no matter what. I dont know what your goals are, but most bodybuilders will be getting AT LEAST one gram of protein per lb of bodyweight per day.
Thus, if you weigh 200 lbs, strive for at least 200 gs of protein.

Egg whites are a great source of protein, I like where your head is at with that one.That sounds awfully high. I thought an excessive intake of protien can cause liver and kidney damage, no?

Most of the WWE type guys fall under the bodybuilder banner. It's about how you use the muscle, if you work out to work out (you know, lift weights so you get stronger to lift heavier weights) or look pretty then you are a bodybuilder.

If you work out to function better like in my case with karate or like Tiger Woods who lifts weights to improve his golf swing it's a called functional strength. A soldier works out to function on the battlefield, a construction worker works out so his back doesn't kill him on the job, working out with a focus rather than for the look of it.I work out to keep limber. With my arthritis, if I don't move I lose mobility and have pains. :(

[Colossal Spoons]

That sounds awfully high. I thought an excessive intake of protien can cause liver and kidney damage, no?

I need 230+ every day lol. Drinking tons of water helps your kidneys out :up:

[Golgo-13]

Awesome vid mrvlknight21. Nice idea with the hex dumbells too. I'm gonna start those tomorrow!

As far as pulls ups goes guys, i've worked my way up to doing 3 sets of 12, with perfect form, with about a minute - a 90 second break in between sets; i weight 160lbs. I usually do them at the beginning of my workouts when i'm doing body weight exercises only.

[mrvlknight21]

I need 230+ every day lol. Drinking tons of water helps your kidneys out :up:

^^ Exactly.

Squeekness, the figure I gave is a figure that bodybuilders would probably use. Im not saying everyone needs that much. As usual...it depends on your goals.

[Colossal Spoons]

I think I'm gonna go from a 4 day split to a 5. I hate being done w/ my workouts by Thursday. I'll just separate biceps and triceps and give 'em there own day.

[Colossal Spoons]

So, bodybuilders are the ones who look jack lots of times...strong man are ones who are just NBA/NFL in shape? Would any WWE guys be bodybuilders?

Even the most physically impressive WWE guys wouldn't even place in a bodybuilding competition. Batista, Cena, etc.

[mrvlknight21]

Most of the WWE type guys fall under the bodybuilder banner. It's about how you use the muscle, if you work out to work out (you know, lift weights so you get stronger to lift heavier weights) or look pretty then you are a bodybuilder.

If you work out to function better like in my case with karate or like Tiger Woods who lifts weights to improve his golf swing it's a called functional strength. A soldier works out to function on the battlefield, a construction worker works out so his back doesn't kill him on the job, working out with a focus rather than for the look of it.

Yeah, WWE guys usually follow the bodybuilder model because obviously they want to get big and look like pro wrestlers. Youre right, most guys that want to "look good naked" follow bodybuilding routines.

The term functional strength has been beaten to death in recent years unfortunately. Now, as a result, there are a lot of people who say "I dont do _____ because it isnt functional." Often this will lead to regular guys doing things like squattingon BOSU balls because some trainer has convinced them its more functional.
However, as you mentioned, "functional" applies to the user. If a guy is attempting to win a bodybuilding competition and thats how he hopes to pay the bills...then the bodybuilding routine is certainly "functional" for him. Definitely not going to be the way that Michael Phelps, Tiger Woods or Forrest Griffin train, though, and for good reason.

Usually, in this thread, you will see me ask people what their goals are before offering my opinion. Thats because what is needed or works for one person may be worthless for another.

[Golgo-13]

I think I'm gonna go from a 4 day split to a 5. I hate being done w/ my workouts by Thursday. I'll just separate biceps and triceps and give 'em there own day.

I give calves their own day. To most, calve training is an after thought.

[Agent Z]

treadmills suck

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp119/Eva_Jeneva/160/x%20107/workout.gif


Amen. I have a long running gait/long legs and treadmills can never keep up with my pace. I actually have to slow down at points or I will literally run into the control panel. Annoying.

I stick with ellipticals: Much easier on the joints and can actually give a pretty intense cardio session if done right (i.e not resting one's hands on the control panel while letting the lower body do all the work).

[mrvlknight21]

:o I actually forgot what you meant bout the p powder, then I remember myself.

So, bodybuilders are the ones who look jack lots of times...strong man are ones who are just NBA/NFL in shape? Would any WWE guys be bodybuilders?

Bodybuilders are guys who train for bodybuilding competitions, their goal is hypertrophy (muscle size). They are judged on size and symmetry. Most routines that you see in magazines and what not are cookie cutter bodybuilding routines. Doesnt mean that will make you look like them. The true bodybuilders (competitive) must diet and train properly everyday.

Strongman competitors are the ones that...take a guess.....compete in strongman competitions. Just watch one of those on ESPN sometime. These guys are HUGE and STRONG. They arent concerned with appearance at all-just performance and strength. They carry huge logs and rocks and squat cars and all sorts of strength feats. They also eat like its their last meal.

The majority of WWE guys likely follow bodybuilding routines, but they are far from COMPETITIVE bodybuilding shape.

[Golgo-13]

treadmills suck

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp119/Eva_Jeneva/160/x%20107/workout.gif

I'm sorry, but that's hilarious!

[mrvlknight21]

Amen. I have a long running gait/long legs and treadmills can never keep up with my pace. I actually have to slow down at points or I will literally run into the control panel. Annoying.

I stick with ellipticals: Much easier on the joints and can actually give a pretty intense cardio session if done right (i.e not resting one's hands on the control panel while letting the lower body do all the work).

Well, personally, I hate ellipticals as well (just not as much as treadmills). But use what works for you. Im sure if I had an elliptical I would use it every now and then....or sell it. :oldrazz:

[Colossal Spoons]

I give calves their own day. To most, calve training is an after thought.

I've run out of calf exercises haha. I only do standing BB calf raises and seated raises on a machine. I hear donkey calf raises are good but neither of my siblings(my workout partners) weigh enough to add much resistance.

[mrvlknight21]

Squeekness and others:
here are some very good articles on whey protein, including when to take it, how much, etc
http://www.powersupplements.com/protein.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/willbrink3.htm

[mrvlknight21]

I've run out of calf exercises haha. I only do standing BB calf raises and seated raises on a machine. I hear donkey calf raises are good but neither of my siblings(my workout partners) weigh enough to add much resistance.

(which is why I wanted to send you a good jump rope :cwink:)

JUst to mix it up, you could do standing 1 leg raises w/ a dumbbell in hand.

[Colossal Spoons]

I had a jump rope once, dad ran it over with the lawnmower :(

Duh, those 1-leg raises totally slipped my mind

[Golgo-13]

I've run out of calf exercises haha. I only do standing BB calf raises and seated raises on a machine. I hear donkey calf raises are good but neither of my siblings(my workout partners) weigh enough to add much resistance.

Do them BARE FEET! That's right, you'll be suprised out how hrad the simplest calve exercise becomes without your shoes on; which, once i started doing them barefeet, realized your shoe aids in some of the pushing.....

[mrvlknight21]

If you cant go barefoot, wear these....
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/liorcharka/vibram-fivefingers-sprint-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn174/AdamShaw90/IMG_0312.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

If you get the all black ones, you will look like a ninja....or Mr. Deeds.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc216/derizen/KSOSmaller.jpg

[mrvlknight21]

:o I actually forgot what you meant bout the p powder, then I remember myself.

So, bodybuilders are the ones who look jack lots of times...strong man are ones who are just NBA/NFL in shape? Would any WWE guys be bodybuilders?

Did you find your scoop for the powder??

[mrvlknight21]

Ok guys, yesterday I said we should all do pullups.

Today....its the mother of all leg exercises...the SQUAT!

Nice gif of a HEAVY front squat:

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt178/ChrisCringle/AnimatedGIF/front_squat_ron.gif


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/chicana_peach76/squat.jpg


And no squat motivator is greater than this one....

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/trailduster_pix/squat.jpg

[Colossal Spoons]

If you get the all black ones, you will look like a ninja....or Mr. Deeds.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc216/derizen/KSOSmaller.jpg

Hahaha


Bare feet would make them a lot harder. I'll def give that a try

[squeekness]

Squeekness and others:
here are some very good articles on whey protein, including when to take it, how much, etc
http://www.powersupplements.com/protein.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/willbrink3.htmThanks! :D Most of it I already knew, but I have the feeling that even though I increased my protien, I still might not be getting enough. My wellness coach said I should be getting at least 50, the chart in the first article claims I should be getting more like 80, my EAS whey protien bag says should be getting more like 90. :( Gonna have to look into that...



If you cant go barefoot, wear these....
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/liorcharka/vibram-fivefingers-sprint-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn174/AdamShaw90/IMG_0312.jpgYou couldn't pay me enough to wear those. :( Fugly.

[Colossal Spoons]

That squat motivational pic gets me everytime. We all thought it was photoshopped over at bodybuilding.com but somebody found more pics of that chick. Her quads really are that huge :up:

[JoeCat]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/trailduster_pix/squat.jpg

:wow:

None of the girls at my gym look like that!!

[squeekness]

That squat motivational pic gets me everytime. We all thought it was photoshopped over at bodybuilding.com but somebody founds more pics of that chick. Her quads really are that huge :up:She looks out of proportion. :( *is jealous anyways*

[mrvlknight21]

You couldn't pay me enough to wear those. :( Fugly.

They werent meant to be pretty. But they are pretty dang awesome if you read the science behind it. I bought some a year ago, but I actually got the wrong size, so I resold them (and actually made money).
But most people wont wear them around town....although there are alot that do because they really do feel awesome.

[Colossal Spoons]

She looks out of proportion. :( *is jealous anyways*

She could stand to drop one leg session and do some bicep curls, yeah lol

[mrvlknight21]

That squat motivational pic gets me everytime. We all thought it was photoshopped over at bodybuilding.com but somebody founds more pics of that chick. Her quads really are that huge :up:

Yeah, that what I thought too. But like you said there are a bunch of pics of her floating around out there.

[enterthemadness]

Her thighs look sexy...big deal? And today actually happens to be my back/leg day. Got squats, seated leg press, and back to hit. AND Basketball.

If MvrlKnight was there he be like :cmad: do those pullups, do those, like noaweee! :o He says now the Arnold way.

[Colossal Spoons]

Are those barefoot shoes for casual walking or for some particular activity? Cuz I'm totally thinkin about getting a pair :o

[mrvlknight21]

She looks out of proportion. :( *is jealous anyways*

I think she looks awesome.

[mrvlknight21]

Are those barefoot shoes for casual walking or for some particular activity? Cuz I'm totally thinkin about getting a pair :o

As I told squeekness a LOT of people wear them around town and things like that. People that hike and do things similar love them as well because your feet feel awesome in them.
Of course people that like barefoot actitivies love them bc they offer a level of protection and still give that feeling they are used to.

[mrvlknight21]

If MvrlKnight was there he be like :cmad: do those pullups, do those, like noaweee! :o He says now the Arnold way.


Dang straight.

Did you find the protein powder scoop?

[enterthemadness]

Those barefeet shoes look ugly....if ugly had a uglier step sister that was disowned by the family.

[Colossal Spoons]

As I told squeekness a LOT of people wear them around town and things like that. People that hike and do things similar love them as well because your feet feel awesome in them.
Of course people that like barefoot actitivies love them bc they offer a level of protection and still give that feeling they are used to.

I'll wear just about anything(not too image conscious). Checkin out the FiveFingers website now :up:

[enterthemadness]

Dang straight.

Did you find the protein powder scoop?

Yes, I found it. You actually say now the Arnold way? When he talks it's like he's having a seizure or something.

[mrvlknight21]

I'll wear just about anything(not too image conscious). Checkin out the FiveFingers website now :up:

Good, I was about to PM it to you...but you are one of those people who will google some answers for yourself. :word:
Be sure to check ebay....some good prices out there sometimes.

I plan to buy some more when I go to Myrtle Beach actually. I will just try to make sure I get the right size this time!

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm very skilled in the art of googling :D

Isn't it the worst when you see people asking questions(not in this thread, just in general) that a simple google search would answer :o

[mrvlknight21]

Yes, I found it. You actually say now the Arnold way? When he talks it's like he's having a seizure or something.

Glad you found it. I told you it would be in there.

I would say it any way necessary to motivate you to get on that bar.

[mrvlknight21]

I'm very skilled in the art of googling :D

Isn't it the worst when you see people asking questions(not in this thread, just in general) that a simple google search would answer :o


Yes it is indeed. I say search first, then get opinions from those who may know (like folks here).


Oh, and one thing. I wouldnt recommend the Classics.
Most people like the Sprints (one strap on them like the red ones I posted) or the KSOs or Flows to keep small rocks and debris from getting in.

[enterthemadness]

Glad you found it. I told you it would be in there.

I would say it any way necessary to motivate you to get on that bar.

Saying it in the Arnold way would cause me to laugh, smile, and maybe seriously injure my stomach. Conan does it a good way. I be like '1 pullup lol zomg, 2 pullup, lolz, 3 pullups *falls off from laughing*.

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, I'm lookin at the black Flows

[mrvlknight21]

Before anyone else asks....:woot:

http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha yeah, it was heading towards "inside joke" territory.

[mrvlknight21]

Yeah, I'm lookin at the black Flows

cool.
The pair I bought were Sprints.
Im not sure which ones I will get next time.

I would be more likely to wear the KSOs or Flow to the mall.
I DONT wear flip flops out in public. PERIOD.

[Colossal Spoons]

I've noticed a lot of people turning their backs on flip flops. Wonder why they're not cool anymore(unless you're a surfer or a collar popper)? I own a pair of Adidas sandals or flip-flops; not sure what the diff is. I put 'em on when I'm too lazy to find socks in the summer :o