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ChickenScratch
09-13-2009, 10:38 PM
Ouch man, I feel for you. I nearly threw up fast food a few weeks ago.

Colossal Spoons
09-15-2009, 02:30 PM
Listening to a little Arch Enemy before downing my Animal Pump and heading to the gym for a back day :up::argh:

Manic
09-15-2009, 02:43 PM
Eating soup and a turkey sandwich before heading to the gym, also for back day.

mrvlknight21
09-15-2009, 03:03 PM
Well because of the economy (we are having to take furlough days), I am thinking of getting a personal training certification of some sort and running a boot camp on the weekends as a way to make up the difference.

There is a girl here who did this and marketed it to women in the spring as "bikini boot camp" and had like 15 members @ $200 a pop (for a 6 week course). They did this at a local park (no overhead costs there) on the weekends using little or no equipment (bodyweight work mostly).

Hell, thats what I do anyways with Storm and the other guys....might as well add some paying clientele!

mrvlknight21
09-15-2009, 03:13 PM
Listening to a little Arch Enemy before downing my Animal Pump and heading to the gym for a back day :up::argh:

BRB, Going to google Arch Enemy.

enterthemadness
09-15-2009, 03:24 PM
Chest day for me.

ChickenScratch
09-15-2009, 03:24 PM
Arch enemy rules, though I preferred them before Angela.

mrvlknight21
09-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Im working on a youtube video of a workout with a large tractor tire. Everyone has seen the tire flips and sledgehammer swings, but I have about a dozen other things that can be done with it as well.

Colossal Spoons
09-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Well because of the economy (we are having to take furlough days), I am thinking of getting a personal training certification of some sort and running a boot camp on the weekends as a way to make up the difference.

There is a girl here who did this and marketed it to women in the spring as "bikini boot camp" and had like 15 members @ $200 a pop (for a 6 week course). They did this at a local park (no overhead costs there) on the weekends using little or no equipment (bodyweight work mostly).

Hell, thats what I do anyways with Storm and the other guys....might as well add some paying clientele!

Hell, might as well.

Arch enemy rules, though I preferred them before Angela.

I'm new to the band so Angela is unknown to me.

mrvlknight21
09-16-2009, 03:36 PM
Ive covered all this before, but here are some hot tips for pullups:
http://stronglifts.com/10-ways-to-get-stronger-at-pull-ups-fast/

Colossal Spoons
09-16-2009, 03:58 PM
:up:

Prison Mike
09-16-2009, 04:38 PM
it's been 2 or 3 weeks since I've last worked out. I need to get back to it soon.

mrvlknight21
09-16-2009, 04:50 PM
it's been 2 or 3 weeks since I've last worked out. I need to get back to it soon.

Yeah, you have no excuses...being in prison and all.

Prison Mike
09-16-2009, 05:01 PM
Yeah, you have no excuses...being in prison and all.

the clink is no fun.

Colossal Spoons
09-16-2009, 05:03 PM
Haha, seriously

SonikDeath
09-16-2009, 06:06 PM
What do you guys think about doing Shoulders and Legs together, because i already do chest/triceps and back//biceps with the other 3 days saved for cardio with 1 rest day.

So, would Shoulders and Legs go good together ?

Thanks. :)

Colossal Spoons
09-16-2009, 06:15 PM
I used to pair up shoulders and legs all the time in college :up:

Lightning Strykez!
09-16-2009, 06:18 PM
I met some friends at Fuddrucker's earlier today. It feels like I've been poisoned. My system is officially kicking back greasy fried food.

Good. That's half the battle. Conditioning the mind to reject it in the first place is the hardest part.

Colossal Spoons
09-16-2009, 07:14 PM
I wish refried beans had more calories/were more filling. I'm low carbing today but baked chicken and refried beans keeps me full for like 30 mins. Tapeworm? :(

Maybe I'll add some cheese and salsa to them next time

Manic
09-16-2009, 11:05 PM
Good. That's half the battle. Conditioning the mind to reject it in the first place is the hardest part.
Conditioning the mind my ass! Fuddruckers made me feel sick, so I'm staying away from Fuddruckers. It's common sense.


Then again, if more people followed common sense, antacid companies would be out of business. If eating something makes you feel bad, stop eating it.

enterthemadness
09-16-2009, 11:12 PM
I have legs/shoulders later on.

AND...

Who here does straight bar bicep curls with cable resistance? I use the tricep pull down for them. People are like :dry: 'fro real?' at teh rec center.

Savage
09-17-2009, 05:23 PM
Alright, I officially have no idea how to lose weight. I go to martial arts about twice a week and I have no idea what I'm doing in the kitchen so...any pointers would help. I mean I thought bulking up was hard.

SsM
09-17-2009, 05:43 PM
I started P90x today, The chest/back and the ab ripper exercises were ****ing crazy, I thought I was getting in decent shape but I was dead wrong. I did everything I could like they said.. I've NEVER sweat so much in an air conditioned room, I can't imagine doing it in the un air conditioned room I did my other stuff in.

I couldn't even do one of a couple of the ab exercises *shame*

Cunning Stunts
09-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Yeah, the day after the first DVD, even my freakin' hair was sore. Those workouts ****ing rule. The plyometrics are the absolute hardest.

Colossal Spoons
09-17-2009, 06:07 PM
Glad to hear it's kickin your ass :up:


Just worked on my chest and helped myself to chicken and perogies.

Cunning Stunts
09-17-2009, 06:08 PM
Alright, I officially have no idea how to lose weight. I go to martial arts about twice a week and I have no idea what I'm doing in the kitchen so...any pointers would help. I mean I thought bulking up was hard.

First off, what kind of martial art are you taking, and are you taking supplements?

Second, what does your diet consist of?

Cunning Stunts
09-17-2009, 06:08 PM
Glad to hear it's kickin your ass :up:


Just worked on my chest and helped myself to chicken and perogies.

I just drooled all over myself. I haven't eaten in like two days.

Colossal Spoons
09-17-2009, 06:12 PM
I feel like I haven't either. Nothing's been filling me up lately

Oh CS, any interest in going to the Baltimore Comic-con in a few weeks?

Cunning Stunts
09-17-2009, 06:15 PM
Most certainly. Just fill me in on details and I'll try to go... I've got a packed schedule with college and all but I'm dying to go to a Comic-Con.

Savage
09-17-2009, 06:20 PM
First off, what kind of martial art are you taking, and are you taking supplements?

Second, what does your diet consist of?

Tae Kwon Do and I know nothing about supplements so I don't touch em.

I pretty much live on cereal and oatmeal throughout most of the day and around dinner I'd shift around meals consisting of egg related meals (egg salads and omelettes), and if I'm really jonesing for food balogna and cheese sandwhiches and hot dogs (...all...8 of them). Other than that basic noodle related stuff. Mac and cheese, fettuccini alfredo, etc. Pretty much anything I can make in less than 30 minutes. I am completely clueless when it comes to dieting to lose weight as opposed to bulking where I'd just jam anything meat related into my mouth.

Colossal Spoons
09-17-2009, 06:57 PM
how long do you plan on dirty bulking?

enterthemadness
09-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Tae Kwon Do and I know nothing about supplements so I don't touch em.

I pretty much live on cereal and oatmeal throughout most of the day and around dinner I'd shift around meals consisting of egg related meals (egg salads and omelettes), and if I'm really jonesing for food balogna and cheese sandwhiches and hot dogs (...all...8 of them). Other than that basic noodle related stuff. Mac and cheese, fettuccini alfredo, etc. Pretty much anything I can make in less than 30 minutes. I am completely clueless when it comes to dieting to lose weight as opposed to bulking where I'd just jam anything meat related into my mouth.

how long do you plan on dirty bulking?

:o please tell me it's not hot dogs.

I took like a 2 and half hour nap instead of working out. Oh well, always tomorrow.

Savage
09-17-2009, 07:16 PM
how long do you plan on dirty bulking?

I'm pretty much done. I've become noticably slower in my fights and I'm not a fan. It's easier but it's certainly not the way. I'm around 206 now and I don't like it.

Colossal Spoons
09-17-2009, 07:19 PM
Yeah, the ends never justify the means with a dirty bulk haha.

Savage
09-17-2009, 07:21 PM
:o please tell me it's not hot dogs.

I took like a 2 and half hour nap instead of working out. Oh well, always tomorrow.

lol Nah, just piled on the chicken strips.

It's like I said, I consider living on cereal and yogurt dieting. I'm completely clueless about the food component. Making myself sweat is the easy part of getting into shape as far as I'm concerned.

Colossal Spoons
09-17-2009, 07:29 PM
Browse the nutrition section of bodybuilding.com's forums. Lots of smart cats over there. I read some of those threads for fun throughout the day :up:

mrvlknight21
09-17-2009, 09:36 PM
. The plyometrics are the absolute hardest.

See, I keep hearing that, but it really wasnt too hard for me. I really enjoyed it. Im not saying it was a piece of cake or anything, but I thought chest/back was harder.

Lightning Strykez!
09-18-2009, 01:27 PM
I started P90x today, The chest/back and the ab ripper exercises were ****ing crazy, I thought I was getting in decent shape but I was dead wrong. I did everything I could like they said.. I've NEVER sweat so much in an air conditioned room, I can't imagine doing it in the un air conditioned room I did my other stuff in.

I couldn't even do one of a couple of the ab exercises *shame*

So would you recommend the system? My significant other swears by it because he takes it with him when he travels for his job. He'd rather do that in his hotel room than go to some local gym and work out for a day or two. Personally, I can't get into these workout videos. I prefer the good ol' fashioned, meat-and-potatoes gym myself.

Colossal Spoons
09-18-2009, 01:40 PM
I'm with you on the gym. Just something about being in the building :up:

I'll eventually build my own gym when I get a house, but it won't be the same haha

mrvlknight21
09-18-2009, 03:37 PM
So would you recommend the system? My significant other swears by it because he takes it with him when he travels for his job. He'd rather do that in his hotel room than go to some local gym and work out for a day or two. Personally, I can't get into these workout videos. I prefer the good ol' fashioned, meat-and-potatoes gym myself.

I know that you didnt ask me, but heres my 2 cents.
Its a good system, it really is.
Now, I have plenty of equipment in my home gym and lots of stuff that commercial gyms dont have and wont ever have. So, saying that, it was hard for me to get past the "follow along dvd with little equipment" stigma...I was SO sure that this would be like Tae-Bo or some crap. But its not. Its solid. Its not perfect, but it is a good system with plenty of moves you probably have never done before.

Tony Horton, the trainer/host is corny and annoying, so I will just turn him down and follow along with my own music going.

As I stated on the last page, I refuse to do the Yoga. As good as it may be, it bores me to DEATH.

Edit...uh, I think I just noticed something. Youre gay? Not that it matters, but it just took me by surprise.

I'm with you on the gym. Just something about being in the building :up:

I'll eventually build my own gym when I get a house, but it won't be the same haha

I kind of know what you mean, coming from a few commercial gyms and the college gym to my own home gym, but trust me, I would NEVER go back.
The atmosphere is different but I would say that in a good way (for about 95% of it) when making comparisons.
Although I agree that walking into an actual gym gets me going and primed to do some work.

Colossal Spoons
09-18-2009, 03:40 PM
One pro of having a home gym is that it never closes! There are times when I'll get off work at 10:30 and be ready to workout but nowhere's open :down:

mrvlknight21
09-18-2009, 03:51 PM
One pro of having a home gym is that it never closes! There are times when I'll get off work at 10:30 and be ready to workout but nowhere's open :down:

Yeah, there are a lot more pros but that is one of them.

By the way Spoons, you showed up in a dream I had the other night. LOL!
I was going on some sort of tour with some other guys, including JStorm, and we invited you. We knew you wouldnt come anyway. Then at the 1st stop, we had just checked in to a hotel and you knocked on the door and came right in! You had the mohawk though! It was awesome.

mrvlknight21
09-18-2009, 03:53 PM
Oh CS, any interest in going to the Baltimore Comic-con in a few weeks?

WTF....no invite for your boy? :csad:

Colossal Spoons
09-18-2009, 04:22 PM
If you drive your arse up here, you can hang haha


:awesome:

Colossal Spoons
09-18-2009, 04:22 PM
Yeah, there are a lot more pros but that is one of them.

By the way Spoons, you showed up in a dream I had the other night. LOL!
I was going on some sort of tour with some other guys, including JStorm, and we invited you. We knew you wouldnt come anyway. Then at the 1st stop, we had just checked in to a hotel and you knocked on the door and came right in! You had the mohawk though! It was awesome.

Hahaha, that's awesome.

You're my 2nd e-friend to see me in a dream last night. This is my mutant power finally manifesting.......YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

enterthemadness
09-18-2009, 06:57 PM
I did pull ups, up right rows, shot some hoops, and did squats earlier.

Why is it I can do 10 the first set in pull ups, but struggle to do just 6 the last two sets?

Colossal Spoons
09-18-2009, 07:07 PM
B/c your muscles are exhausted lol

mrvlknight21
09-18-2009, 07:22 PM
hahaha, that's awesome.

You're my 2nd e-friend to see me in a dream last night. This is my mutant power finally manifesting.......yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lmfao!!!!

enterthemadness
09-18-2009, 08:31 PM
B/c your muscles are exhausted lol

B/c? You went to college dude...for shamez.

Well, I am a weak young sexy dude.:awesome:

Colossal Spoons
09-20-2009, 04:10 AM
ETM, you are too well known to ever change your name. JAL will never be The Apatow Crew lol

AndThePickles
09-20-2009, 07:46 AM
I've felt SO unmotivated lately :csad: I need to snap out of it.

mrvlknight21
09-20-2009, 09:21 AM
ETM, you are too well known to ever change your name. JAL will never be The Apatow Crew lol

Yeah, what is this The Immortal crap anyway?

AndThePickles
09-20-2009, 09:30 AM
It's exactly what you said- crap.

kytrigger
09-20-2009, 10:55 AM
So I've been thinking about changing up my cardio training for a while now. I know some people that have started running by heartrate instead of time and they said it was great and that once you get used to it, your run times will actually improve.

It sounds interesting, but I've been stalling in starting it because I have a PT test coming up and I've heard you actually walk quite a bit when you first start training that way and I don't want to screw up my PT score.

Has anyone here ever trained by heartrate or know if it is as good of a cardio plan as my friends say it is?

Colossal Spoons
09-20-2009, 11:21 AM
I care more about heartrate than time for any cardio. You can waste your time by half-assing cardio for an hour; but 20 mins of HIIT will be far more effective.

DeGenerate10
09-20-2009, 11:38 AM
Benched 250 today. I weigh 150 so I'm pretty proud of myself

kytrigger
09-20-2009, 11:40 AM
I agree for the most part, but oftentimes I just go for a 4 mile run or something and instead of focusing on my heartrate the entire time I just try to keep a good pace which is usually measured in time.

By time I don't mean amount of time I spend doing cardio, but my pace time during it.

mrvlknight21
09-21-2009, 09:39 AM
So I've been thinking about changing up my cardio training for a while now. I know some people that have started running by heartrate instead of time and they said it was great and that once you get used to it, your run times will actually improve.

It sounds interesting, but I've been stalling in starting it because I have a PT test coming up and I've heard you actually walk quite a bit when you first start training that way and I don't want to screw up my PT score.

Has anyone here ever trained by heartrate or know if it is as good of a cardio plan as my friends say it is?


I dont ever train by heartrate. Ever. I know if I am giving 100% or not (which is the point of HIIT, my preferred method of "cardio.")


. You can waste your time by half-assing cardio for an hour; but 20 mins of HIIT will be far more effective.

^^ This.

SonikDeath
09-22-2009, 08:16 PM
How important do you guys think is a pre-workout shake, is it necessary to have one ?

SonikDeath
09-22-2009, 08:16 PM
edit.

Colossal Spoons
09-22-2009, 08:20 PM
Pre-workout nutrition is very important. It doesn't have to be a shake, if you can eat food instead. Just remember, if you're going with food, you've gotta eat it further in advance b/c it takes longer to digest than a shake.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=11356062&postcount=3088

enterthemadness
09-22-2009, 08:36 PM
Last week I got 260 on incline press. Gonna work out tomorrow if I get the sleep that is. Guess it be legs/back/shoulders or legs/back.

enterthemadness
09-22-2009, 08:42 PM
ETM, you are too well known to ever change your name. JAL will never be The Apatow Crew lol

Yeah, what is this The Immortal crap anyway?

It's exactly what you said- crap.

Well, would you guys (yes, calling you a guy ATP, no offense) have liked it if I changed it to ETFM?

Enter The ****ing Madness

Colossal Spoons
09-22-2009, 08:45 PM
That would be slightly better actually

Manic
09-22-2009, 09:16 PM
I'd call you E.T. Effin' M.

mrvlknight21
09-23-2009, 08:03 AM
That would be slightly better actually

Agreed.

enterthemadness
09-23-2009, 02:06 PM
That would be slightly better actually

I'd call you E.T. Effin' M.

Agreed.

Awesome.

I will work out now.

ChickenScratch
09-24-2009, 12:49 PM
Hey. Just thought I should share some great news. The Sensei I trained with from 5 to 16 then lost touch with when I moved, I found him! He does not teach professionally anymore, does not have his dojo, he's working just in his profession as an architect. But finally after all these years of bugging everyone in the Seido Karate organization, they finally caved in and gave me his number (I belong to Kyokushin Karate so I guess I understand).

He was very happy to hear from me, and here's the best part, he lives not 4 miles from my parent's house. He has offered to train me again too, privately! Imagine that, I've got one of the 4 or 5 top ranking Seido Karate masters in the world as a private tutor whenever I'm ready! I'm so happy it's beyond words, the man is like a father to me and it gutted me to learn that he had closed his school and moved. Guess I'm gonna quit Kyokushin.

Colossal Spoons
09-24-2009, 01:42 PM
Good stuff man! :up:

Speedball
09-24-2009, 01:47 PM
so... I've been going to the gym everyday for like 3 hours non-stop, and I can't seem to lose any weight, but my muscles keep getting bigger and I keep having to increase the weight. I'm about 240, and 5'9".

Colossal Spoons
09-24-2009, 02:08 PM
Whacha eatin'?

Manic
09-24-2009, 02:28 PM
What kind of cardio are you doing, and how long have you been at it?

Colossal Spoons
09-24-2009, 02:45 PM
What color socks are you wearing?

Manic
09-24-2009, 03:00 PM
If you could be any animal, what would you be?

enterthemadness
09-24-2009, 03:15 PM
What color socks are you wearing?

White, sometimes tan, but hardly ever black. :o black socks leaves too much **** between my toes, don't judge me.

I would be a Cat or a Wolf or a Fox, or a hybird of all three.

Trainwreck2100
09-24-2009, 04:06 PM
White, sometimes tan, but hardly ever black. :o black socks leaves too much **** between my toes, don't judge me.

I would be a Cat or a Wolf or a Fox, or a hybird of all three.

a colfx?

enterthemadness
09-24-2009, 07:53 PM
Believe I've asked this before, but all my life I've suffered this throwing error problem. When throwing football, baseball, or anything my eyes move around instead of locking onto the target.

Example:

Let's say I am throwing a football in a game. And my WR is covered by a CB. At the last second as I throw it to the WR, my eyes shift onto the CB and end up throwing a INT.

I have improved my aim by looking at the targets though more. It was horrid in school though.

Red Cherry Lips
09-24-2009, 07:55 PM
Anyone into bikram yoga or shadow boxing?

Colossal Spoons
09-24-2009, 08:12 PM
I've been hearing about this bikram yoga business. You actually sweat! :eek:

mrvlknight21
09-24-2009, 09:53 PM
Believe I've asked this before, but all my life I've suffered this throwing error problem. When throwing football, baseball, or anything my eyes move around instead of locking onto the target.

Example:

Let's say I am throwing a football in a game. And my WR is covered by a CB. At the last second as I throw it to the WR, my eyes shift onto the CB and end up throwing a INT.

I have improved my aim by looking at the targets though more. It was horrid in school though.

Weird.

enterthemadness
09-24-2009, 11:31 PM
Weird.

:o no offense taken. I think part of it comes down to being nervous and not taking my time. A even better example is if I played 3B or shortstop (and I probably try to try out for the baseball team in Community when I sign up next year)...if I played 3B.....I think even God would go 'Holy ****' due to my throwing errors. ....That was a joke, but still. I throw football with my brother....I may have fixed my aim some, but he's a inch or two taller than me and I still overthrow him, underthrow, sail it to his left or right. This is outside. In the rec center on the basketball court...before someone got a hole in their only football...I actually had good aim though. And I drop back and scramble when I play catch with him.

I actually have hit my parents and sister cars when throwing football...:awesome: I guess you can say 'not even practice squad QB for me'. I know one of those throws were WILD and not even close to my brother or niece.

And I can throw a baseball between 30-50 mph. Which isn't good.

SsM
09-24-2009, 11:34 PM
So, Week two of P90x and I've already seen a MAJOR change in my abdominal/chest area.. It's actually pretty ridiculous.

SsM
09-24-2009, 11:34 PM
So, Week two of P90x and I've already seen a MAJOR change in my abdominal/chest area.. It's actually pretty ridiculous.

Speedball
09-24-2009, 11:39 PM
What kind of cardio are you doing, and how long have you been at it?
I've been doing the elliptical for 45 minutes before my workout, then about 1:30 of machines and free weights, and then 40 minutes at the elliptical again. I've been doing it for about a month now, maybe a week or two more. I just started ending my workout with cardio last week.
And @C Spoons, My diet is very... :csad:
I'm a college student, and I get most of my food on campus. I'm not a vegetable person... at all. Last time... I improved my diet, but I don't really have the money to buy stuff to make food right now. I have a meal plan on campus, so those meals are already paid for.

enterthemadness
09-24-2009, 11:49 PM
So, Week two of P90x and I've already seen a MAJOR change in my abdominal/chest area.. It's actually pretty ridiculous.

Like how ridiculous? Compare your body to a guy in WWE..before and after P90x. Like does your chest stick out while wearing t-shirts?

I've been doing the elliptical for 45 minutes before my workout, then about 1:30 of machines and free weights, and then 40 minutes at the elliptical again. I've been doing it for about a month now, maybe a week or two more. I just started ending my workout with cardio last week.
And @C Spoons, My diet is very... :csad:
I'm a college student, and I get most of my food on campus. I'm not a vegetable person... at all. Last time... I improved my diet, but I don't really have the money to buy stuff to make food right now. I have a meal plan on campus, so those meals are already paid for.

That may be too much. I don't think you need to do the cardio after working out since you do some before working out. Are you chubby, fat, average? Can people tell you 'must work out' when they look at you?

Speedball
09-24-2009, 11:55 PM
Like how ridiculous? Compare your body to a guy in WWE..before and after P90x. Like does your chest stick out while wearing t-shirts?



That may be too much. I don't think you need to do the cardio after working out since you do some before working out. Are you chubby, fat, average? Can people tell you 'must work out' when they look at you?
Yeah, they can tell I work out, but I'm a bit overweight. I like doing the cardio, my endurance kind of sucks, and I'm trying to build it up. I've already noticed that my endurance is better, and I can do a lot more weight now.
I don't think I have THAT far to go, My goal is 200.
I was doing good about a year and a half ago, but then I didn't have a gym to go to, and I went out of the country for a month and got used to being lazy. Then I started getting into relationships, and I would get distracted.
Now... I'm back to being single, and my friends are too busy for me. So I go to the gym.

Manic
09-25-2009, 12:06 AM
Yeah, definitely only do cardio once per workout. Twice is just unnecessary. Also, you might want to look into doing your cardio in intervals. High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) gets you done with your cardio in less than 20 minutes, completely wears you out, and doing cardio in intervals is said to be a more efficient way to burn fat.

According to Devil's signature, you can apparently find some info about it on page 869 in this thread.

Manic
09-25-2009, 12:07 AM
*sigh*
Really, Hype Server?

Speedball
09-25-2009, 12:11 AM
Yeah, definitely only do cardio once per workout. Twice is just unnecessary. Also, you might want to look into doing your cardio in intervals. High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) gets you done with your cardio in less than 20 minutes, completely wears you out, and doing cardio in intervals is said to be a more efficient way to burn fat.

According to Devil's signature, you can apparently find some info about it on page 869 in this thread.
See... The problem is I have flat feet... and no matter what shoes I wear, my feet hurt. When I run on a treadmill or a track, My feet feel like they're going to explode and just kills my workout. Would HIIT make my feet feel like this?

enterthemadness
09-25-2009, 12:15 AM
See... The problem is I have flat feet... and no matter what shoes I wear, my feet hurt. When I run on a treadmill or a track, My feet feel like they're going to explode and just kills my workout. Would HIIT make my feet feel like this?


Put some Dr. Scholl's in your shoes...or run through the pain.

Manic
09-25-2009, 12:16 AM
Your feet might still hurt, yeah. If it helps, HIIT involves a lot of slowing down and stopping. It basically involves you doing your cardio in quick bursts and resting inbetween. The way I do it, I walk for about 5 minutes, run for one full minute with all I got (or a little less, depending on how I'm feeling that day), walk for 2 minutes, and repeat the running and walking thing a few times, and walk for another 5 minutes to cool off. 20 minutes and I'm done. I don't know how bad your feet are, though. There are much shorter HIIT routines I've looked up on Youtube and Google, though.

Speedball
09-25-2009, 12:17 AM
Put some Dr. Scholl's in your shoes...or run through the pain.

I have INSANELY flat feet. Like if you were to take a line level and put it where my arch is, it'll be level.

enterthemadness
09-25-2009, 12:21 AM
I have INSANELY flat feet. Like if you were to take a line level and put it where my arch is, it'll be level.

I can't picture what a arch looks like, but line level sounds really flat.

Trainwreck2100
09-25-2009, 12:50 AM
See... The problem is I have flat feet... and no matter what shoes I wear, my feet hurt. When I run on a treadmill or a track, My feet feel like they're going to explode and just kills my workout. Would HIIT make my feet feel like this?

swim it then, Usually a 2:1 ratio of easy laps/high intensity laps and you're set.

enterthemadness
09-25-2009, 03:50 AM
swim it then, Usually a 2:1 ratio of easy laps/high intensity laps and you're set.

Not everybody can swim. I for example...can not swim.

Colossal Spoons
09-25-2009, 05:11 AM
And @C Spoons, My diet is very... :csad:
I'm a college student, and I get most of my food on campus. I'm not a vegetable person... at all. Last time... I improved my diet, but I don't really have the money to buy stuff to make food right now. I have a meal plan on campus, so those meals are already paid for.

Prob solved. We need not talk about sets, reps, or heart rates. Track your calories and the lbs should melt off. I'm more concerned with how much you eat as opposed to what you eat. It's that simple and difficult at the same time. Good luck :up:

Trainwreck2100
09-25-2009, 05:44 AM
Not everybody can swim. I for example...can not swim.

anyone with arch problems should learn, its the best way to avoid injury since you don't use said arches

Colossal Spoons
09-25-2009, 05:45 AM
So, Week two of P90x and I've already seen a MAJOR change in my abdominal/chest area.. It's actually pretty ridiculous.

Good stuff Mr. Ram!

mrvlknight21
09-25-2009, 08:48 AM
Your feet might still hurt, yeah. If it helps, HIIT involves a lot of slowing down and stopping. It basically involves you doing your cardio in quick bursts and resting inbetween. The way I do it, I walk for about 5 minutes, run for one full minute with all I got (or a little less, depending on how I'm feeling that day), walk for 2 minutes, and repeat the running and walking thing a few times, and walk for another 5 minutes to cool off. 20 minutes and I'm done. I don't know how bad your feet are, though. There are much shorter HIIT routines I've looked up on Youtube and Google, though.

^^ This.


Guys, seeing this on the first page brought a smile to my face. :) I hate it when we go days without any new posts. I know a lot of what is posted is not always of great value to others (listing the routine that you did that day, noob questions), but it can be motivating for some regardless.


I hope everyone is training smart and hard.

I sprained my ankle Sunday night so I have been a bit out of commission for a few days. Im hoping to get back going this weekend or Monday. My foot is still black, but the swelling is gone now. I have sprained my ankles many times over the years, so this was kind of routine for me. Im pretty sure I heard some ligaments tear, so I need to do a little rehabbing with a band before I do any running or anything.

Colossal Spoons
09-25-2009, 09:01 AM
Tried straight leg dead lifts yesterday; could never get the form right before. My hamstrings are killing me today and my lower back hurts a bit. I need to tighten up the form some more but it's def a fantastic exercise :up:

Colossal Spoons
09-25-2009, 09:01 AM
I sprained my ankle Sunday night so I have been a bit out of commission for a few days. Im hoping to get back going this weekend or Monday. My foot is still black, but the swelling is gone now. I have sprained my ankles many times over the years, so this was kind of routine for me. Im pretty sure I heard some ligaments tear, so I need to do a little rehabbing with a band before I do any running or anything.

Ugh, that sucks

mrvlknight21
09-25-2009, 09:24 AM
Tried straight leg dead lifts yesterday; could never get the form right before. My hamstrings are killing me today and my lower back hurts a bit. I need to tighten up the form some more but it's def a fantastic exercise :up:

Yeah, its a real good exercise. Its also one that you want to ensure the form is good.

Ugh, that sucks

Yeah, I know. Once you have heard it (and I have heard it several times before), you will always remember and will know if it happens again.
This also puts my tire exercise youtube video on the shelf for about another week. Fortunately, I have taken more time just looking at the tire and attempting possible exercises and coming up with more. This will not be the standard flipping/sledge swinging video that you have seen a million times on youtube. It will be a variety of exercises that hit the legs, core, chest, back, ...everything. Basically a video that shows how a big tire can be your only piece of equipment. Lots of exercises that most people probably havent seen. Im pretty excited about it.

Red Cherry Lips
09-25-2009, 03:46 PM
I've been hearing about this bikram yoga business. You actually sweat! :eek:

And the health benefits are amazing. For some, it can be kinda scary at first when one hears it's done in a very hot room. The main thing is to hydrate a lot before the session and just do the best one can to stay in the room if the poses prove too daunting.

http://www.bikramyoga.com/Yoga.htm

Bikram's Beginning Yoga Class is a twenty-six asana series designed to scientifically warm and stretch muscles, ligaments and tendons, in the order in which they should be stretched.

Bikram Yoga's twenty-six posture exercises systematically move fresh, oxygenated blood to one hundred percent of your body, to each organ and fiber, restoring all systems to healthy working order, just as Nature intended. Proper weight, muscle tone, vibrant good health, and a sense of well-being will automatically follow.


Some background info. on wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikram_Yoga


Namaste. :yay:

Colossal Spoons
09-26-2009, 11:23 AM
This also puts my tire exercise youtube video on the shelf for about another week. Fortunately, I have taken more time just looking at the tire and attempting possible exercises and coming up with more. This will not be the standard flipping/sledge swinging video that you have seen a million times on youtube. It will be a variety of exercises that hit the legs, core, chest, back, ...everything. Basically a video that shows how a big tire can be your only piece of equipment. Lots of exercises that most people probably havent seen. Im pretty excited about it.

How big's your tire? I'd love to get one but got no place to keep it.

Bruce Banner
09-26-2009, 11:35 AM
So I weighed in yesterday. And after months of eating better. Working out more. And not partying and drinking all the time. I am back down to my high school weight from 3 years ago. But I'm a little taller standing at 5ft 10

I'm back to 153 pounds. After last year where I just got lazy and went up to 174.

I'm feeling pretty proud of myself right now.

Colossal Spoons
09-26-2009, 11:41 AM
Good job dood!

I can't remember being 174, let alone 153 lol

Bruce Banner
09-26-2009, 11:51 AM
Good job dood!

I can't remember being 174, let alone 153 lol

It feels great just to know. I was looking at photos from last years "swell" and I was surprised.

I actually fit my user name alot better now as well. Even weirder my 17 year old brother is like 30 pounds heavier than me. My family is heavy. On both sides mainly bc of diet and love of beer. I'm keeping it off.

mrvlknight21
09-26-2009, 05:25 PM
How big's your tire? I'd love to get one but got no place to keep it.

I was told by the guy I got it from that it weighs 400. I was skeptical, and when I did some of the exercises (deadlift, shrugs, etc) with no problems I was sure that it was more like 200-300.
I searched for the weight based on the size and found out it is 266 lbs. Which is ok, because that allows me to do a lot more with it (as will be seen in the video).

SonikDeath
09-26-2009, 05:31 PM
Anyone here do fasted cardio, i was thinking about trying it but wasnt sure because doing HIIT without taking in any food before doesnt sound like a good idea, but i heard it helps burn more body fat.

Anyone tried it ?

Saved
09-26-2009, 06:35 PM
Been working out for three years now and I've been reading the thread since I've been on hype, I just never posted in here. Lately I've been working on my core a lot and despite what I do I still have trouble building my obliques. Any suggestions on excercises I can do to make them bigger and stronger?

mrvlknight21
09-27-2009, 08:11 AM
Anyone here do fasted cardio, i was thinking about trying it but wasnt sure because doing HIIT without taking in any food before doesnt sound like a good idea, but i heard it helps burn more body fat.

Anyone tried it ?

I have done fasted cardio in the traditional sense (long slower run first thing in the morning, before eating).
But I wouldnt suggest that with HIIT. Eat something about 1-2 hours before, so you dont see it again during the HIIT.

mrvlknight21
09-27-2009, 08:12 AM
Been working out for three years now and I've been reading the thread since I've been on hype, I just never posted in here. Lately I've been working on my core a lot and despite what I do I still have trouble building my obliques. Any suggestions on excercises I can do to make them bigger and stronger?

You want your obliques bigger? Or are you just wanting them to show more?

Have you been doing rotational core movements?

SsM
09-27-2009, 10:05 AM
Good job dood!

I can't remember being 174, let alone 153 lol

I remember being 206... but that was long, LOOOONG ago..

Now I'm 149 ._.


Anyways, I'm in the middle of my second week of P90x.. and I'm feeling it :) It's nice to be sore.

Saved
09-27-2009, 05:46 PM
You want your obliques bigger? Or are you just wanting them to show more?

Have you been doing rotational core movements?
Probably just want them to show more cause massive obliques would probably look weird. As for the rotational excercises, I do a few, but I don't always feel it the way I feel it when working my abs so I wanted something more rigorous I guess.

Also, I just bought some hanging ab straps today so I'll have a much wider field of excercises to chose from regarding my core.

Colossal Spoons
09-27-2009, 07:25 PM
Welcome Syn :up:

Bruce Banner
09-27-2009, 07:31 PM
I remember being 206... but that was long, LOOOONG ago..

Now I'm 149 ._.


Anyways, I'm in the middle of my second week of P90x.. and I'm feeling it :) It's nice to be sore.


Good job give me a little more time and I'll be at 149ish.

Saved
09-27-2009, 07:44 PM
Welcome Syn :up:
Why, thank you. :) I haven't seen you since the DBZ boards, Spoons.

Colossal Spoons
09-27-2009, 07:53 PM
Haha, yeah it's been a while. You know, I still haven't seen that movie.

Saved
09-27-2009, 07:59 PM
Me either! BRO-FIVE!

Colossal Spoons
09-27-2009, 08:04 PM
:highfive:

Haha, one day I'll check it out

Saved
09-27-2009, 08:05 PM
Just let me know when you do see it. I want to know how much your eyes bleed. :o

Colossal Spoons
09-27-2009, 08:44 PM
Haha, oh boy

enterthemadness
09-27-2009, 10:26 PM
:o after three days of no working out, gonna try and work out tomorrow evening.

SsM
09-27-2009, 10:28 PM
I weighed in today.. Last week at the doctor I was 149...


I weighed myself on two different scales and they both read 139.. Haha... I'm trying to gain weight here! Jeeze. I'm trying to get to 155-160.. Though I haven't had much of an appetite this week, it hasn't been enough to lose ten pounds.

enterthemadness
09-27-2009, 10:40 PM
I weighed in today.. Last week at the doctor I was 149...


I weighed myself on two different scales and they both read 139.. Haha... I'm trying to gain weight here! Jeeze. I'm trying to get to 155-160.. Though I haven't had much of an appetite this week, it hasn't been enough to lose ten pounds.


You're body sucks when it comes to gaining weight is all. What's your cardio like? Are you eating enough?

Manic
09-27-2009, 10:54 PM
I'm afraid to weigh myself. I haven't weighed myself since 2004, and I was 165 then. My weight took a huge jump upward in 2005, and slowly climbed throughout 2008. I didn't start to noticeably lose weight until summer 2008, but then I stopped dieting and working out throughout the 2008-2009 winter season. I got back on the wagon this spring, but my diet has been off for the past month.

Basically, I'm afraid that I weigh just as much now as I did 5 years ago-- maybe more. God knows I only got back to wearing my old clothes a few months ago.

knowsbleed
09-29-2009, 06:29 AM
Jag and Shadowboxing aren't around anymore... but Spoons still is so he might make fun of me for this. I went and got P90X and I'm going to give it a try. Just did the Chest/Back and the Ab Ripper right now and man... I'm shaking. I'm not an out of shape guy or anything but this was a really good workout. I'll keep you all up to date on how things progress... hopefully I can stick to this and my diet for the duration.

Hope we get good results SsM. :up:

Colossal Spoons
09-29-2009, 06:59 AM
No ridicule here, nuthin but support. Report back w/ your weight loss :up:

mrvlknight21
09-29-2009, 07:58 AM
Jag and Shadowboxing aren't around anymore... but Spoons still is so he might make fun of me for this. I went and got P90X and I'm going to give it a try. Just did the Chest/Back and the Ab Ripper right now and man... I'm shaking. I'm not an out of shape guy or anything but this was a really good workout. I'll keep you all up to date on how things progress... hopefully I can stick to this and my diet for the duration.

Hope we get good results SsM. :up:

Jag and I have both said that P90X is a solid program. It isnt made for someone who wants to be a powerlifter or anything. But it is good for what it is designed for and may be perfect for your own goals. Yes, there is a stigma attached to workout videos and all thanks to Richard Simmons ans Tae Bo, but p90x is well designed. Good luck.

knowsbleed
09-29-2009, 08:19 AM
I'm more concerned with getting toned than weight loss. So this diet is probably going to be the true test with this regimen I'm trying out... but I want to see some abs dammit. Sooo... I'm going to stick with my tuna, chicken breast and my Foreman grill. Got any advice for some fast absorbing shakes?

Colossal Spoons
09-29-2009, 08:25 AM
whey = fast
casein = slow

mrvlknight21
09-29-2009, 09:18 AM
I'm more concerned with getting toned than weight loss. So this diet is probably going to be the true test with this regimen I'm trying out... but I want to see some abs dammit. Sooo... I'm going to stick with my tuna, chicken breast and my Foreman grill. Got any advice for some fast absorbing shakes?

Well getting toned kind of goes with weight loss..at least fat loss. And that is something that P90X is definitely good for. You really should follow the diet portion as explained in the manual of the program for best results. Plenty of tuna and grilled chicken are recommended, so you wont have issues "keeping it real" with your Foreman Grill.

whey = fast
casein = slow

EXACTLY.

SsM
09-30-2009, 08:38 PM
Jag and Shadowboxing aren't around anymore... but Spoons still is so he might make fun of me for this. I went and got P90X and I'm going to give it a try. Just did the Chest/Back and the Ab Ripper right now and man... I'm shaking. I'm not an out of shape guy or anything but this was a really good workout. I'll keep you all up to date on how things progress... hopefully I can stick to this and my diet for the duration.

Hope we get good results SsM. :up:


Yeah.. I just finished week two. I had to stop short of my legs and back workout because every time I did a pullup the other day something in my abdomen just ****ing Pulsated with immense amounts of pain. It's gone now for the most part. Don't know what the hell happened.

Colossal Spoons
09-30-2009, 09:05 PM
EXACTLY.

Syntha-6 and Nitro-Core = :awesome:

Manic
10-01-2009, 01:05 AM
A follow-up yo what I wrote a few days ago...

I'm afraid to weigh myself. I haven't weighed myself since 2004, and I was 165 then. My weight took a huge jump upward in 2005, and slowly climbed throughout 2008. I didn't start to noticeably lose weight until summer 2008, but then I stopped dieting and working out throughout the 2008-2009 winter season. I got back on the wagon this spring, but my diet has been off for the past month.

Basically, I'm afraid that I weigh just as much now as I did 5 years ago-- maybe more. God knows I only got back to wearing my old clothes a few months ago.

First of all, I meant 265, not 165. I wish that typo was true. Well, not really. I like being able to resist high winds.

Anyway, I weighed myself after my workout today. I was 239 (give or take my shoes and sweaty clothes). So the good news is that I've taken off however much weight I gained from 2005 to 2008. The slightly less good but still good nonetheless news is that I'm only 26lbs lighter than I used to be, which means at best I look about the same size I did when I was 19-20. The sad/good mixed truth: I'm 239lbs with a high body fat percentage, but this is the healthiest I've been in my adult life. :yay: :csad:

Colossal Spoons
10-01-2009, 05:46 AM
Keep it up man!

Saved
10-01-2009, 07:52 PM
Anybody have any tips on how I can get a better tricep work out from doing pullups? I don't feel it in my tris as much as I'd like to, even with wide grip.

Manic
10-01-2009, 08:11 PM
Do you mean bicep?

Saved
10-01-2009, 08:15 PM
...no. lol The reason I ask is cause the only way (without using free weights) I can really work my triceps is with various pushups and dips. I don't feel it the same way in my triceps when I do pullups (though it works everything else really well) so I was wondering if I could do something to work my triceps better or more vigorously doing pullups.

enterthemadness
10-01-2009, 08:19 PM
Did some squats and lat down pulls today. Then shot some ball and play some 21. Even with a sore lower-mid back I still play ball. Cause I am tough.

Manic
10-01-2009, 08:19 PM
Well, the pullup isn't really a tricep workout. It works your back and biceps. Triceps are worked with pushing movements, not pulling. If you're feeling anything in your triceps at all during a pulling movement, it's because you just happen to be tensing your entire arm.

Saved
10-01-2009, 08:34 PM
Well, the pullup isn't really a tricep workout. It works your back and biceps. Triceps are worked with pushing movements, not pulling. If you're feeling anything in your triceps at all during a pulling movement, it's because you just happen to be tensing your entire arm.
That explains a lot. Thanks for that, Manic.

On a related note, the hanging ab straps are awesome. :up: I love how you have to stabilize yourself to keep from swinging.

EDIT Sorry if I seem like a newb, but I've basically been doing freeweights as my work outs for the past few years and now I'm doing excercises where you lift your body weight and plyometrics and such to gain overall strength and stability. I'm feeling my workouts a lot more now then I used to so I'm pretty excited about that.

Manic
10-02-2009, 09:15 PM
It was leg day today. I've been putting off real squats literally the entire time I've been working out. I've been using a machine with one of those pulley systems to do leg presses. I used nearly all of the weight on the machine today. I don't really have a choice now. I've got to do proper squats. Anyone have any tips for doing weighted squats for the first time? I'm assuming, of course, that I won't be able to squat nearly as much with real weight as I could on the machine.

mrvlknight21
10-03-2009, 08:44 AM
It was leg day today. I've been putting off real squats literally the entire time I've been working out. I've been using a machine with one of those pulley systems to do leg presses. I used nearly all of the weight on the machine today. I don't really have a choice now. I've got to do proper squats. Anyone have any tips for doing weighted squats for the first time? I'm assuming, of course, that I won't be able to squat nearly as much with real weight as I could on the machine.

Yeah man, go light, take your time.

Colossal Spoons
10-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Look straight forward
Arch your back and stick out your butt
Keep your heels on the ground
Go down low, no half-squats :argh:. You don't have to do a full ATG right away though
Rest the bar on top of your traps, not in your spine

SonikDeath
10-03-2009, 06:15 PM
Added some skullcrushers to my tricep workout, damn they were hurting afterwards especially when i was doing my dips. :D

Colossal Spoons
10-04-2009, 03:03 PM
I just started doing skulls again recently. Great exercise :up:

Manic
10-04-2009, 03:16 PM
I tried doing those once. I felt it working my chest, and I usually do my arm workouts while my chest is still recovering. I had to stop.

Colossal Spoons
10-04-2009, 03:40 PM
You may have been moving your arms too much, only from your elbows to fingers should move.

mrvlknight21
10-04-2009, 06:53 PM
You may have been moving your arms too much, only from your elbows to fingers should move.

Exactly, the elbow is a lever on that one. The rest stays still.

mrvlknight21
10-04-2009, 07:43 PM
Im trying to decide what new program I will start tomorrow.
I narrowed it down to:
1) Working class fitness program
2) one of Defranco's programs for guys like me in their 30s
3) Ross Enamait's Infinite Intensity

Im looking for a little more muscular development in this run, so I may go with the Defrancos. It is a hybrid program of the famous Westside for skinny batsards.

I got the Working class fitness program and have yet to use it, though.

Lightning Strykez!
10-04-2009, 07:54 PM
I seriously pulled a calf muscle during my routine and it is woeful. Anybody got an ice pack? :csad:

Colossal Spoons
10-04-2009, 08:45 PM
If you pay for shipping haha

Super_Child
10-05-2009, 03:38 AM
Ok so Iv'e started a new routine thanks to advice on this forum and reading Body for life, and taking some of that. Been training 4 days a week, different muscle groups every day. With the 4th day being just push ups and cruches with one 20 minute cardio session to top the week off. Iv'e been eating more protien than normal ( about 25g extra in a workout day ) and Iv'e cut things like coke and chocolate completely out of my diet.

After 4 weeks I feel great, I had already been running for 3 months before I started using weights so my stamina is looking good. And in this 4 weeks of weights Iv'e gained 3 lbs!

Colossal Spoons
10-05-2009, 05:01 AM
Everything except your 4th workout day sounds awesome. A day dedicated to pushups and crunches sounds like a waste. Try doing a set of 10 pushups before your chest workout and a set to failure at the very end instead. As for your abs, it'd make more sense to do 2-3 diff exercises to hit the diff sections of the abs: obliques, upper and lower.

Good luck chief, do work!

mrvlknight21
10-05-2009, 08:21 AM
Ok so Iv'e started a new routine thanks to advice on this forum and reading Body for life, and taking some of that. Been training 4 days a week, different muscle groups every day. With the 4th day being just push ups and cruches with one 20 minute cardio session to top the week off. Iv'e been eating more protien than normal ( about 25g extra in a workout day ) and Iv'e cut things like coke and chocolate completely out of my diet.

After 4 weeks I feel great, I had already been running for 3 months before I started using weights so my stamina is looking good. And in this 4 weeks of weights Iv'e gained 3 lbs!

So youre not doing Body for Life then, just using some of the concepts?

Super_Child
10-06-2009, 03:03 AM
Yeah just using some of it, seems to be working so far though? I'll work on that 4th day spoons thanks.

Bunker
10-06-2009, 05:45 PM
Just got back from my first boxing lesson. Best workout I've ever had. I can't even lift my arms.

SsM
10-06-2009, 06:22 PM
Curse working out constantly!

I'm HUNGRY ALL THE TIME >_<

Manic
10-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Ugh. I'm off to do something I hate: I'm going to the gym between the hours of 4pm and 6pm, when the gym is the most crowded. But I'm not about to skip a day and combine Tuesday's back workout with Wednesday's shoulder workout. Again. I don't have the stamina for another 3.5-4 hour workout because I was too lazy to make it out the house today.

Colossal Spoons
10-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Why is this song so perfect for deadlifting:

S_KsM8pEh2A

Fantastic back workout just now. Work: done :up:

BillyZaned
10-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Just got back from my first boxing lesson. Best workout I've ever had. I can't even lift my arms.

come shovel asphalt for 14 hours..... put any workout to shame....

I don't even work out that much anymore... working 4 days a week doing paving is hard then any workout routine.... I was in good shape going into this season.... my hole body how is just massive... specially my arms, shoulders, and back....

I ussualy do alot of chest exercises to keep my chest up, since it's theleast used muscle out there....

NotFadeAway
10-07-2009, 03:45 PM
On both of my long runs the last two days, I got hit with massive pain in the pit of my stomach, something I haven't felt since I was about 50lbs heavier. This hasn't happened since I got into the 140lbs. Very irritating.....

Be Snikt-Happy
10-08-2009, 12:40 AM
What's everyone's short term goals with fitness/exercise/lifting?

Colossal Spoons
10-08-2009, 05:48 AM
To get as huge as possible w/ or w/o drugs

BillyZaned
10-08-2009, 11:33 AM
weighed myself today.... 245lbs... I'm just under 6'-4"....

and for the record, my pants size are 32" waste x 36" length...

BillyZaned
10-08-2009, 11:37 AM
To get as huge as possible w/ or w/o drugs


good luck man... at my peak, about two years ago, i was 270 built... but, it was hard to keep the fat off persay... I wasn't ever fat, or chunky, but with the constant eating due to hard workouts, then working a full-time job, it was nearly impossible to drop much of the extra wieght I wanted too...

Im still big, but more cut.... and I feel better too.... clothes fit better... no more dress shirts fitting akward... when you have a 19" neck, the shirts are made wide, because they think your fat... you have to get them taylored, which isn't cheap

mrvlknight21
10-08-2009, 04:00 PM
What's everyone's short term goals with fitness/exercise/lifting?

I just designed a program that I will begin on Oct 26. It is based around the "westside for skinny bastards" program made famous by Joe Defranco.

These are my goals during this program.
Goals will be:
1) Increase in muscular development/strength (i.e.-get stronger at some of the main lifts) I will list some of those specific goals on the exercises once the primer is complete
2) Improve body composition (i.e.-drop some fat and add some muscle=good body fat %, ultimate goal is 6-8%)
3) Not go crazy/get bored and switch things up like usual after a short period (2-4 weeks)
4) Increase explosive power (see offshoot goal #1)-explosiveness = strength x quickness

offshoot goals which will also be tracked:
1) increase vertical jump and get quicker first step/sprint speed
2) rotational core strength


Goals will NOT be:
1) Anything regarding muscular endurance/distance running. This program will be designed around muscle strength and power. I do NOT care if Im not able to run a mile or crank out 50 pushups at the end of this. Im being a bit sarcastic here, but the point remains. Im not going to be doing any marathons or anything like that.

Manic
10-08-2009, 04:05 PM
I want to buy a smaller belt. I'm already on belt #3.

amazingfantasy15
10-08-2009, 04:52 PM
What's everyone's short term goals with fitness/exercise/lifting?

To finish the Chicago Marathon Sunday. It was a long term goal, but since it's Sunday I guess it's become short term. All the training is done, now just basically waiting for race day. After that, been thinking about starting working on getting into shape for triathlon training, running, no problem, biking won't be much of a problem either, swimming is what I'll really need to work on, haven't done that in a year.

lixdexia
10-08-2009, 07:23 PM
To finish the Chicago Marathon Sunday. It was a long term goal, but since it's Sunday I guess it's become short term. All the training is done, now just basically waiting for race day. After that, been thinking about starting working on getting into shape for triathlon training, running, no problem, biking won't be much of a problem either, swimming is what I'll really need to work on, haven't done that in a year.good luck on sunday :D

DeGenerate10
10-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Is it possible to put on about 40 or 50 pounds of good healthy weight before next summer?

Colossal Spoons
10-08-2009, 08:36 PM
That'd be ~10lbs a month. Not likely w/o drugs

DeGenerate10
10-08-2009, 08:43 PM
That'd be ~10lbs a month. Not likely w/o drugs

I just got off of Mass Tabs so I'm not going to use any supplements for a while. Do you have any suggestions on what to take? Except steroids and that sort of thing of course :oldrazz:

Speedball
10-08-2009, 08:53 PM
So apparently I'm allergic to the metal handles on the one machine I use the most of at the gym. A part of my arms have broken out, and I know it's from contact. Now I have to wrap up my arms like a mummy when I use it.
On a good note, I'm down 5 lbs!

Colossal Spoons
10-08-2009, 09:48 PM
I just got off of Mass Tabs so I'm not going to use any supplements for a while. Do you have any suggestions on what to take? Except steroids and that sort of thing of course :oldrazz:

Food, protein(whey/casein) and you might wanna look into creatine.

Colossal Spoons
10-08-2009, 09:49 PM
So apparently I'm allergic to the metal handles on the one machine I use the most of at the gym. A part of my arms have broken out, and I know it's from contact. Now I have to wrap up my arms like a mummy when I use it.
On a good note, I'm down 5 lbs!

You kiddin, you get to wrap your arms and hands like Sagat from Street Fighter! :D

Speedball
10-08-2009, 09:51 PM
You kiddin, you get to wrap your arms and hands like Sagat from Street Fighter! :D
HA!:awesome:
I already wear gloves because the things tear up my hands. But the gloves aren't long enough.

Be Snikt-Happy
10-08-2009, 11:53 PM
My short term goal is to get superhero big for the conventions next year. I will stop trying to be big after next year and focus just on strength like I'm used to. Long term goal is to be one of the strongest guys out there, max out my strength while I'm still in my physical prime.

Colossal Spoons
10-09-2009, 04:49 AM
I'd kill to be able to go as a superhero at a convention. I'd need to gain a lot more muscle and lose some more fat. Those outfits are quite revealing haha.

Colossal Spoons
10-09-2009, 08:48 AM
Look who has their own supplements now (http://www.gnc.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=3703232&f=PAD%2FBrands%2FTapouT+Sports+Nutrition&fbc=1&lmdn=Brand&fbn=Brands|TapouT+Sports+Nutrition)

mrvlknight21
10-09-2009, 09:37 AM
My short term goal is to get superhero big for the conventions next year. I will stop trying to be big after next year and focus just on strength like I'm used to. Long term goal is to be one of the strongest guys out there, max out my strength while I'm still in my physical prime.

I'd kill to be able to go as a superhero at a convention. I'd need to gain a lot more muscle and lose some more fat. Those outfits are quite revealing haha.

I thought about/wanted to do this a year or two ago. Wanted to be Daredevil or Green Lantern. Never really focused on it. However, I have some clear and concise goals right now and a good program that I designed. So who knows....maybe next year.

Look who has their own supplements now (http://www.gnc.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=3703232&f=PAD%2FBrands%2FTapouT+Sports+Nutrition&fbc=1&lmdn=Brand&fbn=Brands|TapouT+Sports+Nutrition)

It was only a matter of time I guess.

Colossal Spoons
10-09-2009, 11:26 AM
I tend to avoid supplements that end in "Extreme!"

ChickenScratch
10-09-2009, 11:44 AM
I would love to go to a convention as a superhero, thing is, not many superheros look like me. I could maybe pull off Nightwing, but it would come off as Indian-Nightwing. LOL. Not many heroes are dark with long hair.

Saved
10-09-2009, 12:17 PM
I'd like to get big enough to go as Ultimate Captain America and look authentic size wise. That'd be awesome.

Colossal Spoons
10-12-2009, 09:32 PM
New from Optimum Nutrition: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/platinum_hydrowhey.html

I'll try it in a few weeks and report back :up:

amazingfantasy15
10-12-2009, 09:42 PM
Finished the Chicago Marathon in under 4:30, a new PR!

Colossal Spoons
10-12-2009, 09:55 PM
Nice man, good job

Anita18
10-12-2009, 11:13 PM
Finished the Chicago Marathon in under 4:30, a new PR!
Anyone who even attempts a marathon is certifiably INSANE. In a good way, of course. :o

Congrats! :awesome:

As for me, I've been working out more at the gym, hoping to build up some muscles in my spindly arms of mine, as well as build up muscle overall. (Long-term goals. My parents are only in their 50s and they're complaining how they're too frail to do anything. :o ) It's actually working - between that and trying to schedule my eating better, I've gained about 5 lbs in the past month. :yay:

Lightning Strykez!
10-12-2009, 11:16 PM
I am pleased to announce that I have returned to my classic 30 inch waistline. Dayum skippy!!! :cmad::up:

amazingfantasy15
10-12-2009, 11:31 PM
Anyone who even attempts a marathon is certifiably INSANE. In a good way, of course. :o

Congrats! :awesome:

As for me, I've been working out more at the gym, hoping to build up some muscles in my spindly arms of mine, as well as build up muscle overall. (Long-term goals. My parents are only in their 50s and they're complaining how they're too frail to do anything. :o ) It's actually working - between that and trying to schedule my eating better, I've gained about 5 lbs in the past month. :yay:

A marathon is insane, but it feels so incredible to cross that finish line, knowing you've done something the great majority of the planet will never even attempt.

Manic
10-12-2009, 11:49 PM
I certainly hope you didn't have to walk home afterward.

AndThePickles
10-13-2009, 12:13 AM
I am pleased to announce that I have returned to my classic 30 inch waistline. Dayum skippy!!! :cmad::up:

Wow, even many women can't accomplish that.

enterthemadness
10-13-2009, 12:16 AM
I haven't worked out in a week. I blame poor sleeping habits and life. Although I should be able to work out/shoot ball round...5pm.

Colossal Spoons
10-13-2009, 12:17 AM
Excuses excuses

SsM
10-13-2009, 12:19 AM
I am pleased to announce that I have returned to my classic 30 inch waistline. Dayum skippy!!! :cmad::up:


I was a 32 when I started P90x. I KNOW I've slimmed down a little bit.. I'll know Wednesday when I do my end of month measurements.

Anita18
10-13-2009, 12:21 AM
Wow, even many women can't accomplish that.
Guys with 30-inch waists (which would include my dad and my boyfriend) make me nervous, because it's not too far off from my own waist measurement...and I'm an underweight woman! :lmao:

Then again I fail at this "looking womanly" thing. I've got the body of a 12-year-old boy. :o

Lightning Strykez!
10-13-2009, 12:22 AM
Wow, even many women can't accomplish that.

It won't last though. I'll be back at 32 in no time.:csad:

Lightning Strykez!
10-13-2009, 12:24 AM
Guys with 30-inch waists (which would include my dad and my boyfriend) make me nervous, because it's not too far off from my own waist measurement...and I'm an underweight woman! :lmao:


LOL Well, this fits in with my overall proportions. I am only 5'11 and a true mesomorph build if there ever was one. I know genetics play a role here though.

enterthemadness
10-13-2009, 12:26 AM
Excuses excuses

Well, the rec was close today...and last week my Dad was in the hospital. But yeah, :awesome: excuses excuses:dry:

Manic
10-13-2009, 12:27 AM
I'm just glad to be back to my old 38" waist from high school. That's still pretty big, I know, but let's just say I didn't have to hitchhike the galaxy to find out what "42" meant.

Colossal Spoons
10-13-2009, 12:29 AM
36 here, and that's starting to get a bit baggy

enterthemadness
10-13-2009, 12:32 AM
My jeans are like 29/30...so I like rule.

Anita18
10-13-2009, 12:33 AM
I was a 32 when I started P90x. I KNOW I've slimmed down a little bit.. I'll know Wednesday when I do my end of month measurements.
I saw an informercial for that recently, and it actually intrigued me. Then I wondered, what happens after you hit the 90 day mark? Are there directions as to which workouts to do after that?

And then I figured I was better off just going to the gym and gaining strength on my own. There's no need for me to have 6-pack abs that stick out. :funny:

LOL Well, this fits in with my overall proportions. I am only 5'11 and a true mesomorph build if there ever was one. I know genetics play a role here though.
Yeah my dad is 5'10" and my bf's 5'9". Both are skinny little sticks. :o I think my dad's 30-waist pants are actually a little loose on him. We keep telling him to gain some weight so we could actually find pants in his size, dammit! :cmad:

SsM
10-13-2009, 12:36 AM
I saw an informercial for that recently, and it actually intrigued me. Then I wondered, what happens after you hit the 90 day mark? Are there directions as to which workouts to do after that?

And then I figured I was better off just going to the gym and gaining strength on my own. There's no need for me to have 6-pack abs that stick out. :funny:


Yeah my dad is 5'10" and my bf's 5'9". Both are skinny little sticks. :o I think my dad's 30-waist pants are actually a little loose on him. We keep telling him to gain some weight so we could actually find pants in his size, dammit! :cmad:


You can either make your own routine or keep following theirs.
They have three different setups that you can do.

I'm doing lean right now for the first 90 days, I'm going to do classics for the second 90 days and I'm going to do doubles for the third.

enterthemadness
10-13-2009, 12:38 AM
You can either make your own routine or keep following theirs.
They have three different setups that you can do.

I'm doing lean right now for the first 90 days, I'm going to do classics for the second 90 days and I'm going to do doubles for the third.

:up: aim for a 8 pack, yo.

SsM
10-13-2009, 12:47 AM
:up: aim for a 8 pack, yo.


I have a four pack right now.. but I think the food I eat is going to get in the way of a Six unless I can man up and stop eating bad food.

ChickenScratch
10-13-2009, 01:31 AM
Guys with 30-inch waists (which would include my dad and my boyfriend) make me nervous, because it's not too far off from my own waist measurement...and I'm an underweight woman! :lmao:

Then again I fail at this "looking womanly" thing. I've got the body of a 12-year-old boy. :o

Ya think? I'm not too far off from that since I have a 31 inch waist. But then I have 17 inch biceps and neck. So from that my waist measurement is just a bit off from symmetrical.

mrvlknight21
10-13-2009, 09:20 AM
New from Optimum Nutrition: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/platinum_hydrowhey.html

I'll try it in a few weeks and report back :up:

Good call. I just placed a large order w bb.com on Sunday and was tempted to give this a shot. But I ended up sticking with the usual, plus an order of "All the whey" protein.

Colossal Spoons
10-13-2009, 02:21 PM
It could just be a gimmick, but the company hasn't done me wrong yet. I plan on ordering a lot of Oats&Whey when I bulk again. It's delicious.

ChickenScratch
10-13-2009, 04:48 PM
Oh man, my back and arms are killing me! I overdid it last night I think. Guess tonight's gonna be a leg night.

Manic
10-13-2009, 08:34 PM
It's raining sideways out there! But I went to the gym anyway. :D

Colossal Spoons
10-13-2009, 08:37 PM
Going to the gym when the weather sucks. Good job :up:

SonikDeath
10-17-2009, 08:51 PM
Went to the gym with my buddy yesterday, basically killed my arms while we were there but i guess thats a good thing, it guarantees growth. :D

Any of you guys do cardio and weights on the same day, which one would be more beneficial to do first ?

Manic
10-17-2009, 10:46 PM
I always do weights first and cardio last. That way I'm not too tired to lift.

Anita18
10-18-2009, 01:02 AM
I always do weights first and cardio last. That way I'm not too tired to lift.
I actually do a bit of cardio beforehand to warm up, only 5 minutes.

But it'll be different depending on what you want to get out of it. I only need to warm my muscles, I REALLY don't need to lose more body fat. I hate hate hate doing cardio, haha. My heart rate goes up while doing strength training, so I figure it's better than nothing.

Manic
10-18-2009, 01:13 AM
Oh, I need the cardio. I've got like 90% body fat. That last 10% is bones, hair, and a series of bladders.

SsM
10-18-2009, 11:19 AM
So, I have to stop doing P90x for a week next week, in the middle of my second month, because I'm having surgery and I'll be out for a week.


How bad is that going to **** me up?

mrvlknight21
10-19-2009, 12:17 PM
So, I have to stop doing P90x for a week next week, in the middle of my second month, because I'm having surgery and I'll be out for a week.


How bad is that going to **** me up?

Surgery and you will only be out a week? Man, be sure to get a doc's clearance before resuming the exercise.
Just my 2 cents.

mrvlknight21
10-19-2009, 12:19 PM
Well I hope everyone is still working hard. This thread gets really slow sometimes.
I am prepping for a version of Defranco's famous Westside for Skinny Bastards program to begin on Oct 26.
Looking forward to it.

SsM
10-19-2009, 12:20 PM
Surgery and you will only be out a week? Man, be sure to get a doc's clearance before resuming the exercise.
Just my 2 cents.


That's what the doctor said. 1 week. :D

Colossal Spoons
10-19-2009, 12:37 PM
Well I hope everyone is still working hard. This thread gets really slow sometimes.
I am prepping for a version of Defranco's famous Westside for Skinny Bastards program to begin on Oct 26.
Looking forward to it.

Got 405x6 on hex bar shrugs last week :D


I got your PM, I'll check it all out when I get home. Leaving the g/f's house now. :up:

BillyZaned
10-19-2009, 12:38 PM
partially tore both of my hamstrings last week....

squeekness
10-19-2009, 12:47 PM
^^ I thought exercise was supposed to be good for you. :p

mrvlknight21
10-19-2009, 12:53 PM
That's what the doctor said. 1 week. :D

Well then, just try to resume where you left off. Good luck.


Got 405x6 on hex bar shrugs last week :D


I got your PM, I'll check it all out when I get home. Leaving the g/f's house now. :up:

Nice shrugs, you will have a big yoke when all said and done! Yeah man, let me know what you think and give me some feedback on it.

partially tore both of my hamstrings last week....


OUCH! I just got back off the injured reserve! Get better!

BillyZaned
10-19-2009, 01:02 PM
happened during work, not a work out.....

55 gallon drum of tar fell of the truck, and for some reason, I tried to catch it... yeah

SsM
10-19-2009, 01:06 PM
Well then, just try to resume where you left off. Good luck.



Yeah, I'm just scared if I skip an entire week.. I'll lose all of my motivation.. It usually happens to me :(


Someone on here want to come down and kick me in the ass to get me up again if I fall off? :P

Anita18
10-19-2009, 01:21 PM
happened during work, not a work out.....

55 gallon drum of tar fell of the truck, and for some reason, I tried to catch it... yeah
Ouch! Good luck with the recovery and work-thing. IIRC you are quite a busy man. Definitely worth it to heal up right than to potentially injure yourself again jumping into things when your body isn't ready.

Yeah, I'm just scared if I skip an entire week.. I'll lose all of my motivation.. It usually happens to me :(
Well, what motivated you to start P90x in the first place? Maybe watching the infomercial lots of times will help? :funny:

I also have an issue with motivation (not always fitness-related as well), but if I detect I'm falling off the wagon and need to go back to work, I'll do it. It helps to have a reminder floating above your head somehow, haha.

SsM
10-19-2009, 01:23 PM
I'm never awake when those infomercials come on. I've never seen any of them :P

BillyZaned
10-19-2009, 01:25 PM
Ouch! Good luck with the recovery and work-thing. IIRC you are quite a busy man. Definitely worth it to heal up right than to potentially injure yourself again jumping into things when your body isn't ready.





worked with it on Saturday... working this friday and saturday too.... no rest for the wicked

NotFadeAway
10-22-2009, 09:44 PM
Question, I have already ran 40 miles this week and I want to take it easy tomorrow. What would be better for me as a whole, a 1-2 mile jog, or walking a half hour on the treadmill at a steady pace?

Speedball
10-22-2009, 10:12 PM
I wish I had someone to spot me when I benchpress. I can do 135 lbs easily (two 45lbers and the bar), but I never have anyone to spot me. I want to see how much I can do, but don't have no one to help... :dry:

Manic
10-22-2009, 10:32 PM
I don't have anyone to spot me, either. That's why I switched to dumbbell bench presses.

--EDIT--
I should probably add a bit more to that.

Obviously, if you ever reach your limit with dumbbells and get stuck at the bottom of your bench, you can just drop them to your sides. So it's a lot safer (and dare I say, better to be risky with when it comes to testing your limits). Thing is, because you're holding an independent weight with each hand (as opposed to one long weight with both hands like a barbell), it takes a lot more effort to keep the weight stabilized. The first time I tried benching with dumbbells, my arms started swaying a little. So it might be a good idea to start off with a lighter weight than you're used to, just so you get used to holding dumbbells.

Colossal Spoons
10-22-2009, 11:18 PM
I wish I had someone to spot me when I benchpress. I can do 135 lbs easily (two 45lbers and the bar), but I never have anyone to spot me. I want to see how much I can do, but don't have no one to help... :dry:

Yeah, that's the one lift where a spotter helps the most.

Saved
10-22-2009, 11:26 PM
I don't have a spotter either so I utilize the 2.5 and five pound weights a lot so I can walk up to my maximum bench weight.

DeGenerate10
10-22-2009, 11:53 PM
What are good workouts for hamstrings

Speedball
10-22-2009, 11:55 PM
^ OH! same question!

Trainwreck2100
10-22-2009, 11:59 PM
squats or deadlifts

Speedball
10-23-2009, 12:31 AM
I think I have this...
http://www.eating-disorder.com/Eating-Treatment/Eating-Disorders/bigorexia.htm

Anita18
10-23-2009, 12:54 AM
I think I have this...
http://www.eating-disorder.com/Eating-Treatment/Eating-Disorders/bigorexia.htm
Those kinds of guys amuse me. One time I was at the gym, I was watching this one buff dude do crunches on an ab ball. He stopped, felt his stomach, then immediately started doing more crunches. I imagined his thought process to be, "Ack! I only feel 4 of my packs!" :wow:

:lmao: :lmao:

Speedball
10-23-2009, 12:56 AM
Thanks... made me feel a WHOLE lot better...
gonna go cry now...

Anita18
10-23-2009, 01:16 AM
Thanks... made me feel a WHOLE lot better...
gonna go cry now...
At least you aren't going to the gym. :cwink:

Anyways, it's really a self-judgment. Sure you may like going to the gym, but once it starts to affect the rest of your life and consume your every thought, it's definitely time to step back. Only you can figure that out for yourself.

enterthemadness
10-23-2009, 02:47 PM
I'm sick. Worked out yesterday though.

Colossal Spoons
10-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Don't workout when you're sick, lifting weakens your immune system temporarily, but that's long enough if you're already sick. And the gym is filthy.

Manic
10-23-2009, 11:16 PM
I weighed myself today. I'm 6 pounds heavier than I was 3 weeks ago, and that doesn't sit well with me. My waist line hasn't moved up these past weeks and some of my lifts have gotten better, so I'm hoping that's 6 pounds of muscle instead of fat. Even if it is muscle, it looks like my fat loss is stagnating. So it's time for me to put my diet in a stranglehold, and I'll probably have to find a new cardio routine.

Manic
10-23-2009, 11:16 PM
Never go in against a double-post when death is on the line! Ah hahaha hahahaha ah hahahaha--

Saved
10-24-2009, 12:43 PM
What do you do for cardio?

Manic
10-24-2009, 01:37 PM
I run in intervals. I run a minute, walk 2 minutes, run a minute, walk 2 minutes, ect. With warm-up and cool-off, it takes about 20 minutes. I've been doing this routine for a while, though. It might be time to change it.

Saved
10-24-2009, 01:51 PM
Mh...I've never done internval training, mainly cause I hate to run at my max for extended periods of time. I did hear there was some kind of benefit cause your body needs to properly absorb oxygen through the fast heart rate and low heart rate.

What I do is just run at a fast jog (6.5-7.5mph) for like five to seven miles. I've found it effective for myself but I had to work up to it. At first I did running non stop for two miles, then worked up to three, then worked up to four (breaking for a walk when I needed it), and then I just settled in and could add extra miles whenever I wanted with no consequence.

This is my suggestion to you for a new cardio plan. Other than that, I've got nothing else to offer (cardio wise).

Manic
10-24-2009, 02:05 PM
I do a lot of weight training, and I heard that long distance running could be counter-productive to muscle growth.